Djokovic, Tsonga Add Intrigue to 2008 Tennis Season
by Sean Randall | January 29th, 2008, 1:15 pm
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Well, Novak Djokovic really put a dent into Roger Federer’s plans for continued world domination in tennis. The 20-year-old Serb not only had his way with the world No. 1, he has all but prevented Federed from eclipsing Pete Sampras’s record 14 Slams this year. Sorry, Roger. Put the champagne back in the fridge because you’re not breaking that mark in 2008. Not by the looks of it at least.

And I know it’s early but Djokovic, not Federer, not Rafael Nadal, is in the driver’s seat in the 2008 point standings, and the kid has the moxie and the game to stay on top. Djokovic also won two of the last three meetings with Fed, and arguably could be up three straight had he converted any of those set points in the U.S. Open final.

As for Federer, the Swiss will have a good month until Dubai to contemplate just what went wrong. After some scintillating tennis the two rounds at the Australian Open, Federer looked like a mere mortal in a five-set escape against Janko Tipsarevic, then needed Tomas Berdych to choke to gain the upper hand and the first set, and then was broken three times in a quarterfinal win over James Blake. The warning signs were there.

Yes, he reached the semifinal, which for many players would be an excellent result. But as even Fed said, he didn’t play his best, and from my vantage point the guy looked slow and listless. Almost like he did at the US Open.

So what just what caused (or is causing) the mighty Fed Express to derail? Was it the lack of match practice coming in? Was it the bad chicken he allegedly ate before the event? Was it the absence of any coach? Was it the slower blue courts? Was it the post Pete Sampras slump? Was it Mirka? Or are the players like Djokovic simply catching up to and even passing the Fed?

I’d say it’s a mixed bag, but whatever the root cause, Fed needs to be a little concerned. Maybe setting up shop in Dubai collecting cash and hitting with Florida Gators isn’t such a good idea after all.

But first full credit and congrats to Djokovic, who deservedly grabbed his first Slam singles title for his native Serbia overcoming Jo-Wilfried Tsonga. Judging by the comments and reaction to his win, Djoko might not be the most likable guy but he is undeniably an incredible tennis player. He’s a flat-out masher who can crush strokes off either wing, he possesses a deceptively effective serve and service return and he plays excellent defense when needed.

Yeah, he’s still working out some drama issues with injuries and breathing, especially when he gets tight, but the more the Joker wins the less those tense moments should get to him. At least for his sake that better be the case.

Will he win a few more Slams? I’d certainly bet on that, but I’m not so sure he’s ready to take over tennis just yet. Let’s first see how the kid reacts to this first Slam win – look what happened to Safin following his Grand Slam wins – then we’ll get a better sense of his hunger. The kid still won’t be the favorite going into any Slam this year at least.

Speaking of Safin, watching JW Tsonga reminded me a lot of the big Russian with his fluid serve and penetrating groundstrokes. I didn’t see much of his earlier round matches (yeah, he hammered my finalist pick Murray!) but wow, what raw power and poise the kid showed in his win over Nadal and again in the final where he had real chance against Djoko to extend it to a fifth (he must be the highest ranked guy to have never ever played a fifth set!). Ali Jr. even had the stones to complain to the chair ump about Djokovic’s slow serving. For a guy in his first tour final of any kind that’s pretty damn good showing that he wasn’t going to back down. Gotta love the kid.

With that kind of game, if the Frenchman can stay out of the doctor’s office he’ll be on the favorites list for many future Slams.

And as a side note, it’s amazing that Tsonga’s now gone further in a Slam than his more highly-touted contemporaries like Andy Murray, Tomas Berdych, Richard Gasquet and Gael Monfils – did anyone anywhere predict such a run before the event? I admit I didn’t see it coming this quickly, or really at all unless the real Ali became tennis’s comissioner. I just hope the kid can keep it together and replicate his Australian run down the road when faced with the new pressure.

Keeping it together is something Maria Sharapova certainly did quite well in winning her third Major, this time without the loss of a single set. Sure, you could make the case that the Russian took advantage of Justin Henin’s knee injury, Serena Williams’s “issues” and Jelena Jankovic’s fatigue, but screw that, Maria was the best player on the tennis court those two weeks. It seems of late anytime in women’s tennis that a non-Henin or non-Williams wins an event it’s because the top gals were absent or injured. And that’s garbage.

Love her or hate her (full disclosure, I am not a big fan), Sharapova is one French Open title from a career Slam, and let’s not forget she’s only 20. And despite making all that cash off court she still competes and screams like nobody else on it.

I will say that thanks to the new face of Tsonga and Djokovic’s sudden Slam, 2008 is off to an absolutely fascinating start and I hope even more surprises are on the way.


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194 Comments for Djokovic, Tsonga Add Intrigue to 2008 Tennis Season

kay pointon Says:

Novak played great but is the most arrogant player I’ve seen. Can you see Federer sticking his tongue out at someone in the audience? He has too much class to do such a thing.


kay pointon Says:

In the event you did not get my message… Novak played great tennis – but is the most arrogant player I’ve seen on TV. Can you see Federer sticking his tongue out at someone in the audience – he has too much class to do such a thing!


frank Says:

federer and djokovic has different personality….emotions cannot be controled….especially ur playing the best player in the world.its just djokovic were very emotional in every point he won.its just djokovic were very intense in every game he has.i just believe that in every game, u have the best and worst.and djokovic played his best.


Tejuz Says:

Fed played against Agassi and Roddick at consecutive US Open finals.. against a very vociferous crowd. But he handled them very well. He has just turned 23 and 24 then. Probabably a few month older than Tsonga.

Sharapova is only 20 years old.. but she behaved well when most of the fans were cheering for Ivanovic.


Von Says:

There’s no excuse for bad manners! The apple does not fall far from the tree.


jane Says:

This is an interesting article about first slam victories and the trials and tribulations thereafter, including some stuff of Becker and Sampras.

http://www.hindu.com/2008/01/30/stories/2008013055732000.htm

Guess it’s not easy being a champ – though the checks can’t hurt.


y0s3v Says:

This is what Fed needs. He needs to feel beatable, he needs to know that there is danger on the court, he needs to know that he needs to beat his rivals to win, that’s when he becomes invincible again.

It has been too long that Fed felt that his rivals had to beat him (he didn’t have to beat them) on the court, Fed was satisfied only by winning matches, this time he knows that he must beat his rivals again, and not just win the match.

Go Fed! Take your place in history! You are the greatest when you feel beatable.


Tejuz Says:

Yeah.. thats a great article Jane. No doubt its a great achievement by Djoker and he thoroughly deserved it.

The difference between Fed and Nadal and Djokovic is about just a Slam now.

Fed – GS (2W + 1F + 1SF), MS(2W + 3F) , MC
Nadal – GS (1W + 1F + 1SF + 14R), MS(3W + 2F)
DJok – GS(1W + 1F + 2SF), MS(2W + 1F + few SF)

So Djoker is infact better than Nadal in terms of Grand Slam points.


jane Says:

Wow, I had no idea it was *that* close of a race – thanks for sharing those stats.


Von Says:

Kay Pointon:

“Novak played great but is the most arrogant player I’ve seen. Can you see Federer sticking his tongue out at someone in the audience? He has too much class to do such a thing.”

Not only his toungue, but he was wagging his finger and pointing with his racquet. He stared down the Umpire when he was told about taking too much time in between serves. He did the same thing on the next serve and just opened his eyes wide and stared at the Umpire. It seemed that he was showing the Umpire that he’ll do as he pleases. Doesn’t that remind you of a kid in his terrible twos/threes stage?

If he wants to be on the big stage, he needs to grow up. But, he doesn’t have anyone to reprimand him, or teach him how to behave properly, just look at the behavior from his parents.


Guy Says:

Djoker doesn’t need to grow up any more than any other player. We’ve been treated to some of the finest sportsmanship in Roger Federer that anyone has seen in the last few years. And Sampras wasn’t bad before that.

Djoker is more like the arrogant champions of Hewitt, Agassi, and (shudder) Connors. Hardly unknown or unusual in the world of tennis.


张奔斗 Says:

Someone with a personality like Djokovic’s or Hewitt’s may win a slam or two, but they can never become a champion of all times, like Federer and Sampras.


sensationalsafin Says:

How can people compare Hewitt and Djokovic? I can see it in terms of personality, but in terms of winning? Cmon. Djokovic has soooo much more game than Hewitt has ever or will ever have. If he can stay as consistent as he’s been the last year and a half, there’s no reason why he should end up with less than 5 or 6 slams, assuming other players can continue to challenge him. His arrogance, as much as people don’t like it, is needed. Federer is too classy. Sure people argue he contradicts himself and is a sore loser, but overall he’s a very classy (if not the classiest) number 1. And Nadal just stays below him licking his balls every chance he gets. Even Federer admits what Djokovic says isn’t that big of a deal. We need some conflicting personalities. It makes tennis a lot more interesting. Ever notice how even though Nadal owns Federer people are still bored? Because they’re too nice. Am I the only one who misses John McEnroe or McEnroe-esque characters?


jane Says:

“We need some conflicting personalities. It makes tennis a lot more interesting. Ever notice how even though Nadal owns Federer people are still bored? Because they’re too nice. Am I the only one who misses John McEnroe or McEnroe-esque characters?”

sensationalsafin:

no, you’re not: I loved Johnny Mac’s “you can’t be serious!” It was fun and exciting to watch his matches; not only was he a great player but he could explode at any minute. I think Federer and Rafa have their own styles, but they’re very “professional”. I like that Djoker is a bit of a renegade. It’s refreshing. Sometimes we this in Roddick or Safin, but their emotions can hurt their games. Djok seems to use his anger in a better way; only when he gets nervous does it hurt him. I liked that McEnroe, Connors, and Borg were all different personalities. Now, with the Djoker, we have something more interesting happening.


no golden slam for Federer :) Says:

That was the best slam final I had watched in years! I am still tickled pink that Federer lost in straight sets and that Djokovic won. A new king has finally entered the court!

The king is dead! Long live the king!


Zola Says:

tennis is not a gladiator’s fight. I think expecting a level of decency and character from the players is not too much.
When we get used to arrogant behavior and name-calling, then what else will make the sport interesting?


Von Says:

Jane:

“We need some conflicting personalities. It makes tennis a lot more interesting. Ever notice how even though Nadal owns Federer people are still bored? Because they’re too nice. Am I the only one who misses John McEnroe or McEnroe-esque characters?”

Tennis began a Gentleman’s sport, with class and dignity, that is why the players shake hands when the match is over. However, some players have strayed w-a-y too far from the real meaning of tennis and have turned it into a street boxing event. This happens when different cultures are thrown together Each culture brings to the sport what they feel is proper behavior. I just speak for myself and I may be in the minority on this site, however, the McEnroe/Connors/Nastase kind of behavior does not bode very well with the majority of tennis fans. Much has been written and frowned upon these characters’ behavior and lack of clsss. We are supposed to be a civilized people and class still has its place in society. Take that away and we will probably revert to the caveman days.


sensationalsafin Says:

It’s too soon to call Djokovic the new king. He’s certainly the new prince. If Djokovic can stay consistent and not lose too many points in the next few months, I expect him to surpass Nadal as number 2 before Nadal surpasses Federer as number 1.


FoT Says:

Zola, I’ve been reading your comments here as well as on the other blogs and I completely agree with you! Go figure – a Nadal and Federer fan actually agreeing a lot lately!

Go Zola!


Von Says:

Even though I am not a Federer fan, and there is probably a minute possibility of the players I like being No.1, I would rather see Fed as the No. 1 than that boor Djokovic with his helium inflated head, attain the No. 1 ranking spot.

The possibility of him staying consistent is quite slim. Let’s see how he is going to defend all of those points from ’07 and cut back on his schedule at the same time. He could do it, if he wins 2 more grand slams. However, mama is going to miss the fat checks.

I don’t know what’s all the big deal about this guy. He has only won one slam. There is presently about 5 players who have won 1 or 3 slams still playing. Any one of them could have a good run and knock Djok out of the No. 3 spot.


Von Says:

Sorry, last paragraph, line 2, 3 dhould be 2 slams.


fedex Says:

federer is still the King.. period!!!


Tejuz Says:

Yes .. we certainly are making a big deal.. Nadal had won his 1st GS when he had just turned 19th… 2 days after his b’day after beating Fed in the semis. He was almost 2 years younger than what Djoker is now before he won his 1st GS.


Daniel Says:

All this hype with Djoko is happening because we didn’t have a different Slam winner since Safin in AO 2005. Three years ago! That’s a lot.
So I think this “new” scenario is interesting, although he was already in the top with Fed and Nadal a long time. They 3 are way above the rest.

Fed only will be threatening after Wimbledon. Nadal, in the other hand, has to defend 3200 over 4000 possible points between Dubai and Roland Garros, and Djoko 2000 points in the same period. That’s why I think, and mentioned it last year; Djoko will be n.2 before Nadal overthrowing Fed.

The situation for Fed still is under control because he can gain points in the next 2 MS that he can overbalance “if” he lost in Wimby or US open.


jane Says:

Von, “This happens when different cultures are thrown together Each culture brings to the sport what they feel is proper behavior”

Well, call me an assimilationist, but I think the fact that tennis is not strictly a “gentleman’s sport” anymore, that the doors to the private lawn clubs have been cast open, and the sport is now “open” (the Open Era) is GREAT. That we have a cool Swiss, a hot Spaniard, and an emotional Serb at the top, too me, is bliss. I love the diversity and the different personalities. Maybe, too, “class” is a tad over-rated. After all, it’s the genteel of the world who are often the most hypocritical.


Von Says:

Jane:

“Maybe, too, “class” is a tad over-rated. After all, it’s the genteel of the world who are often the most hypocritical…”

The “Open Era” allowed people from other countries to participatein tennis, but, tennis has not lost it’s basic roots. The Lawn Tennis Club doors are now open, but that does not mean that decorum is dead or should be swept aside.

If we take away decorum from everything, be it the Military, a tennis tournament, soccer, golf, or any other sport, then we’ve got bedlam and chaos. Codes, Rules and Regulations are made to be followed, and there aren’t any ifs and buts, it’s a fact, to engender the smooth running of any association, company and organization.

Call me hypocritical, genteel, whatever, just give me pomp and circumstance, an opera, the ballet and a nice waltz and, I’m in heaven and I’m dancing cheek to cheek.


jane Says:

“Codes, Rules and Regulations are made to be followed” Oh for sure -I am not calling for tennis anarchy or anything! Just some variety in personalities.

I’d rather go to a rock show, as I’ve mentioned, but I can appreciate an opera or two. One night after night, though, and I’D be ripping of my shirt, or something!


Von Says:

Jane:

“Just some variety in personalities.”

There’s nothing wrong with diversification, however, diversification does not give these different personalities the green light to be rude and crude.


sensationalsafin Says:

I don’t think any one will disagree that Nadal is the most respectable of the 3. No matter who you’re a fan of, Nadal has some irking things but overall, he’s very humble and his personality is not at all overbearing like Federer’s and Djokovic’s. I will come back to this point later.

I think it’s incredibly important for there to be very different top players so that the fans can pick sides. It’s lame when everyone’s cheering against Federer, I mean cmon the guy plays so great. (In this case I’m just gonna say the top 3 because everyone knows they’re the ones that matter.) But it’s good to have 3 different players who different people can root for. Loyal fans, opposing fans, stuff like that. I think it’s good. So back to what I was saying earlier about Nadal… even though he’s the most humble, I like him the least. I like Federer because he’s great and I like Djokovic because he’s great and he’s got a pretty obnoxious personality. I don’t like people like that in real life but it’s fun to watch on the tennis court.


jane Says:

For Fed-fans or anyone who thinks the guy needs a coach:

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/tennis/news/story?id=3222520


Von Says:

sensationalsafin

“I don’t like people like that in real life but it’s fun to watch on the tennis court.”

Glad to know you only like them on the tennis court, otherwise I would have to send a note to your mom to take you to see a psychiatrist. :)

Nadal is by far the most well-mannered of the three. He has a gracious personaliry, in winning and in defeat. However, sometimes his type of personality could grate on one’s nerves just like Djok’s could. Fed, is too sugarcoated. I sometimes feel like shaking him to see what’s under that facade. Give me Safin, Baggy and, Roddick. At least you know with them if you push them too much they’ll growl, (an expletive for sure).

“(In this case I’m just gonna say the top 3 because everyone knows they’re the ones that matter.)”

Oh, No, that’s not fair. I think I’ll say the top 8, per the TMC pick for the tournament. I just can’t allow you to say my little guy does not matter, turkey temper, expletives, et al. :)


Tejuz Says:

Jane.. i had read that article earlier today.. yeah.. its a good article. and i do think a good coach will help fed.


Zola Says:

I think we have to de careful not to trap ourselves in what we say.

who says diversity is bad? No one! what does arrogance and bad manners has to do with culture? Why then Ana and Jelena and Tipsy don’t have this “culture”? Now you are going to tell me that people are different. That’s running in circles and running out of reason.

what culture promotes dissing of the crowd? or imitating a fellow player in a grand slam.?..is that a cultural issue or a personal need to be in the spotlight?

Of course we all want different people with different personalities in the men’s tennis. But please don’t make use of “culture” as an excuse when you run out of reasons to explain Djoko’s behavior.

This type of defense is not going to help him at all. He can stay as energetic and enthusiastic as he is and still be respectful to the crowd and to his fellow players.I seriously think he will change a few things next time we see him. He is a smart guy.

I am trying very hard not to talk about Djoko’s manners anymore. Everything to be said is said. Afterall he won this championship and closed the gap with Rafa and Fed. I think we have to let Djoko fans enjoy this moment.

***

hey FoT,
nice to see you here!
yeah, I think we all are trying to say the same thing! as strange as it may seem!


jane Says:

Zola,

“Everything to be said is said.” – you got that right! Well said.


Branimir Says:

Ana, Jelena and Tipsy have no reason to be arrogant. Only Ana is close to Novak, but even she is far away. No one really minded Djokovic’s arrogance, until he proved it. :)
He was arrogant since they 1 of pro tennis.
His first statement was: “I want to be number 1.”, and he will be.
Then in one of the matches that he lost to Nadal, he said that he felt he is in control of the match even though he lost, and he added that time he beats Nadal in important tournament is closer and closer. Everybody laughed, but he did beat him.
So is he really arrogant, or he is just saying the truth? Everything he said, and predicted for himself, it happened. The guy is just saying the facts.
His mom should shut up. I agree on that one.


Jelena Not Arrogant? Says:

Jelena Not Arrogant?
Read this on JJ:

http://msn.foxsports.com/tennis/story/7681872


Ryan Says:

Djoker is jealous of federer.There was a news article recently where djoker said he loves to see fed struggling in matches against tipsarevic and himself.What sort of a comment is that? Even if thats true he’s not supposed to say that.Is that class? No. Djoker somehow feels that the no.1 ranking is supposed to be his and that fed doesn’t deserve to be there because fed is old and has been there for a long time.So what? If fed is there its because he has kicked djoker’s loser ass 5 times. Djoker knows he can never be as great as fed and can never dominate like the way fed has done.He’s just cocky like his mom and dad.


Zola Says:

All the players wat to be No 1. Stating that wish is not arrogant. Even saying “I was in control” when he lost the match ( on clay) to Rafa in RG 06, was not arrogant too. It was plain STUPID. He proved it when? His H2H with RAfa is 6-2! RAfa beat him good in IW on hard and in RG again and in wimbeldon again…Then Blake or Youzhny or Berych have to open their mouth till eternity!

Seeing these comments, now I can understand why Djoko is trying to do what he is doing. Therer are people who actually like that sort of behavior. If Djoko wants to have his fan base in them, then that is his business. I think his next tournament is going to tell us about that.


Von Says:

Jelena Not Arrogant?

Stating that Jelena is not arrogant is like stating Djok is not arrogant. They’re both arrogant. Ivanovic and Tipsy are not arrogant, but I have seen Ana yank a towel/balls out of the ballboys’/girls’ hands, when she is losing. Of the 4 Tipsy is the most well-mannered.

There are quite a few similarities in Jankovic’s and Djok’s personalities. For example, she is very bellicose and thrives on arguments with the umpires, he is also quite argumentative and likes to glare at the umpire, and that glare seems to say, I dare you. They both have fitness issues amd many medical timeouts. I’ve seen Jankovic throw a fit if the ballgirl does not bring her towel as quickly as she feels it should happen. Her behavior was so bad at one of her matches that the commentator remarked why doesn’t she just walk over and get it herself.

Michael Chang once remarked that he felt that Tennis players are too spoilt. I tend to agree.

I was watching the finals today again, and I concentrated more on the players’ box behavior, and instead of being angry with Djok’s family’s behavior I think they are to be pitied. It was obvious that they have absolutely no idea on how to behave in a proper manner in public and I can only attribute their behavior to a lack of education and their new found wealth. There aren’t many people who can handle success and new wealth.

When you look at Rafa’s family one cannot help but admire that family. Class and good breeding all the way. Uncle Tony applauded some of Tsonga’s net play even though Rafa was losing. That’s class. Djok on the other hand acknowledged one of Tsonga’s pints when Djok was winning.

All of the hype surrounding Djok’s GS win and questions as to how great and consistent a player he is, can only be fully answered when next he gets on court and faces Rafa and Federer and aome others. He did beat sll of the players he faced, but he had a very exhausted Hewitt, Ferrer, Federer and a frustrated Tsonga. Until then all we’ll be doing is just spinning our wheels.


sensationalsafin Says:

He lost to Nadal at Wimbledon because he was tired. He lost to Nadal (and everyone else) at the TMC because he was just out of it. If that hadn’t happened he would have been 4-4 against Nadal.


Von Says:

Losing “because he was tired” at Wimbledon and being “just out of it” at the TMC, all comes down again to the questions concerning his fitness and consistency. Everyone at the TMC won at least one (1) match, he won none. Every TMC player, with the exception of Roddick, played at Mutua Madrilena and Bercy. He was out of Bercy in the first round. Any thoughts???


Tejuz Says:

Great players just dont go out of it and lose 4 matches is row … like he did from Paris to Master’s cup…. comon.. he was the last in the MC files without any wins and he is supposed to be No 3. Put him in a field where there are just top-8 players and he couldnt even win one match??? Fed on the other hand doesnt even lose one match during his MC rout of 2003, 2004.. and he also never lost a round robin match till he lost to Gonzo last year. If he is that great.. he should consistently beat top-10 players.. Fed had this streak of 20+ straight wins against top-10 players.


Tejuz Says:

.. he is always tired when he loses to Rafa … or injured.. that 2-6 H2H should have been 2-0 and 6 matches that Rafa won should be dis-credited.. cuz poor Djokovic wasnt match-fit was tired but his big mouth is never tired


zola Says:

Wimbledon was an unfair situation, but mostly for RAfa. So you think RAfa was not tired? It all goes back to the required fitness. That’s no excuse.

It is funny how Fed’s having stomach flu and losing about 4 kg is not an issue and it all goes back to Djoko’s greatness! but when it comes back to Djoko losing, then it is a legitimate excuse! too plain!


Tejuz Says:

Its his moment in limelight .. so i guess let him enjoy it till the next Grandslam comes around the corner.


Von Says:

“Wimbledon was an unfair situation, but mostly for RAfa…”

Wimbledon was extremely challenging for Rafa. There were four guys who suffered because of the rain: Rafa, Soderling, Roddick and Gasquet. Rafa had it the worst of all and to make the final, was just strength of character.

I remeber one day after Rafa and Soderling had to come back to play their match, Mary Carillo, who was the commentator began laughing as they started their warm up and she said “those guys are just going to lose it.” They went everyday to try to play without any days off, nor could they get in any practice time.

When Roddick was asked how he felt about the rain situation and how it will affect him if he met Fed in the finals, he stated that he could just see Fed taking a tour of London in one of those double decker buses, going around and around.

Djok retired in his match against Rafa, he just fell apart. I don’t know if they have it down as a loss or just a walkover and if it’s a walkover, then Rafa would not have it as a win.


Von Says:

Correction: 4th para, 2nd line, should be “semi-finals” not finals.


Von Says:

Tejuz:

“…but his big mouth is never tired…”

His big mouth just shoots hot air to match his big head that’s filled with helium to make up for his lack of brain cells.


zola Says:

**Its his moment in limelight .. so i guess let him enjoy it till the next Grandslam comes around the corner.***

I agree. I suggest we all move on to another subject and Djoko and his fans enjoy this moment. This is Djoko’s first GS and a big achievement at the age of 20. I hope Djoko fans cooperate too.


zola Says:

oops , should read like this:

I suggest we all move on to another subject and Let Djoko and his fans enjoy this moment.


Sean Randall Says:

Novak sure does have a big mouth. And fortunately I don’t think anyone is going to shut him up. So in the long run I think it will be good for the game overall as it may be easier to spark rivalries and create more interest in casual fans. But I have to wonder how he will handle the negativity that will likely follow him.

He seems like a good kid who means well and wants to be well liked, yet I get the feeling he doesn’t fully understand why people take issue with some of the things he says and does.

Maybe over time he’ll learn, maybe he won’t. For my entertainement I hope he doesn’t because having a top player stirring things up makes tennis that much more interesting.


Tejuz Says:

True.. its does make Tennis more interesting for sure.

The rain at wimbledon affected Nadal more than Djoker.. Djoker’s retiring was his own doing.. by playing 4 hr matches against Hewitt and Baghdatis consectively. He couldnt sustain those long matches.


sensationalsafin Says:

Fine. You guys got me, Djokovic is not fit enough and those matches are legite. Fine. But the excuse does exist for Federer that he was still being affected by his stomach virus.


jane Says:

Holy crap – I can’t get over the wrath for Djokovic at this blog, on both this thread and the previous one. He sure inspires a response!

But I think I’ll give up on defending Djokovic for now. Maybe when there is some actual match play we’ll be able to discuss things with less invectives. Dubai is attracting the best of the men’s field from what I read, so that should be a good tournament to look forward to.

Anyhow, I’ll leave you to rip the Djoker (his family, his personality, his fitness, his talent, his status, his ball-bouncing, etc, etc,…..) to shreds.

Er, have fun!


Von Says:

Sean Randall:

“…yet I get the feeling he doesn’t fully understand why people take issue with some of the things he says and does.”

Unfortunately for him, the help he so desperately needs to understand why people take umbrage to his remarks should come from his parents. I am sure by now you have seen, read, and/or heard about his parents’ crude behavior at the AO, and the comments made by his mother after the ’07 US Open.

Considering that they themselves are sadly lacking those skills and do not have an inkling of what is proper demeanor and how to conduct themselves in public, this youngman is now like a ship adrift in a turbulent sea. He does not have a foundation from which he can draw to find his desperately needed answers.

Normally, young adults have their parents to guide them, but in his case, from what I have heard and seen, his parents appear to need more help than he does. Children are a reflection of their parents!

“But I have to wonder how he will handle the negativity that will likely follow him.”

Through many tears and heartaches. It will most probably be a trial and error learning experience. Or, he could attend a finishing school where proper etiquette is taught, and/or consult a psychologist.

To quote a proverb: “He who guards his lips guards his life, but he who speaks rashly will come to ruin.”

You stated: “For my entertainment I hope he doesn’t because having a top player stirring things up makes tennis that much more interesting.”

Aren’t we being somewhat selfish here? He’ll have a huge price to pay and he’s going to have to learn like yesterday how to diffuse the repercussions when they happen. Personally, I would not want to see another McEnroe, Nastase, or Connors, except in their case, their bad behavior was on the court and they did not spout off to the press. Nor, did their mothers issue statements to the press. Oh, what a tangled web we weave!


Von Says:

“But the excuse does exist for Federer that he was still being affected by his stomach virus.”

I don’t think anyone has, or maybe a few have doubted Fed concerning his stomach flu/food poisoning. Not even me. I was very fair in my comments. I had a similar experience. For him to get to the semis and not gotten beaten comprehensively is a major accomplishment, 7-5, 6-3, 7-6. Except for a few points here and there, he could have won.


Von Says:

Jane:

“Holy crap – I can’t get over the wrath for Djokovic at this blog, on both this thread and the previous one. He sure inspires a response!”

Why the surprise? Just go back and read the comments about Sampras when he played Fed. Surely, by now you should be aware that all actions cause a reaction. However, in Sampras’ case he didn’t even utter a negative word.

I had stopped when I had my discussions with you on Sunday, and then I received two hostile posts from a few of his fans and they are still continuing in the same vein just writing. We are not mummies you know.


Zola Says:

Sean
I agree with Von. I don’t want to see a tennis player doing foolish hings just so that I be entertained. I want to see good tennis and good competetion. We’ll see how things will fold.

Jane,
**I’ll leave you to rip the Djoker (his family, his personality, his fitness, his talent, his status, his ball-bouncing, etc, etc,…..) to shreds.**

no one is ripping Djoko and his family apart. They do a very good job at this themselves. I expected a better reaction when I asked everyone ( including Djoko fans ) to back off a bit.


Von Says:

Zola:

“I agree with Von. I don’t want to see a tennis player doing foolish things just so that I be entertained. I want to see good tennis and good competetion. We’ll see how things will fold.”

Thanks for the support. I have had enough of the childish behaviors and the stupid comments. I just want to see a stimulating match and enjoy my tennis. When I want to laugh I look at the comedy channel. Tennis is a serious sporrt. Have you ever seen a golfer, jump up and down. No. So our tennis players should be professional instead of being spoilt brats.

“I expected a better reaction when I asked everyone ( including Djoko fans ) to back off a bit.”

On Sunday evening I decided that I was through with Djok and posting about him, I also mentioned to Jane that it stops right then. On Monday, I found 10-12 posts about Djok from his fans and other posters and 2 posts were directed to me by Djok’s fans. I did not want to be impolite, so I answered them. I then received additional posts from these fans, and they were abusive, and 2 other new posts and when you answer one, some more appears. However, the posting from the regular posters did not stop, and one topic led to the other, and on, and on.

It’s difficult to stop this because his fans are doing it, and we answer, and then other points are brought up. I just wish that the MS will begin soon and we can get away from this. I am sure tomorrow we’ll see some new posts. However, this is small in comparison to the Fed/Sampras posts.


Zola Says:

Von,
I am sure we will get more posts…..but I am not going to respond anymore because as you said, one thing leads to another and this is not supposed to turn into a fan war.

We were offended by some of Djoko’s behavior and we said that. people tried to defend him and they did too. So really there is nothing more to say. We like it or not, he is another figure in tennis and he has the game to win a GS title. we can just hope for improvements.


Aussie Ange Says:

Can we please stop flogging the dead horse and move on. The AO has been done and dusted and time will tell who prevails as the No. 1.

Next topic.


Von Says:

Zola:

“I am sure we will get more posts…..”

Take a look at the thread, Winning Djoker Not So Funny Anymore. The guy probably thinks I am crazy, and I got 2 other after him. One of them thinks I am a Fed fan. Oh wow.


Spirit Says:

I’m a Fed fan, but don’t agree Djokovic is rude or arrogant, not a least bit more than it is expected from a man so young and so successful.

He just shows more emotions on the court than Fed. He is also one of the very few pro sportsmen that applauds when his opponent makes a nice shot.

Remember Fed on the last Wimbledon? “F..ck, this Hawk Eye is killing me?!”. Or when he said, back in 2006, “Nadal’s game is one-dimensional, and I will beat him next time for sure (on clay!)”, or when he said “I don’t care who wins the AusOpen final tommorow, I won’t watch it either”… A true gentleman would at least wish luck and a good game to both Djok and Tsonga.

You can accuse stomach virus or bad chicken for this defeat, but what about Montreal? What about US open? Back then, I thought “Well, if Djok had won first and/or second set, Fed would have surely wash him off the next three sets”. I’m not sure any more.

And I also think Fed will never win an easy match over Djoko again. The new rivalry will surely boost tennis to another level.


Daniel Says:

Spirit,

The same goes for Djoko. If Fed had win the first set in Montreal, the match would be finished in two sets.


Zola Says:

Von,
let’s just take the backseat. There always people like that:)

This thread is also about Tsonga. I have to admit I did not think of him as muvh of a threat when he was named Murray’s opponent. Then he just took off from that win. Imagine, we were talking about Murray or Gasquet all the time when last year Djoko appeared and this year Tsonga. I wonder if Murray and Gasquet ever find their breakthrough year and if tsonga will stay in that level or be another Gozo and Baghdatis.


Spirit Says:

Daniel,

That’s absolutely right. I didn’t watch that game, but I guess he was absent in crucial moments. And he lost neither of the three sets, tie-break is somewhat like penalty shootout in football, a moment decides everything…


Von Says:

Zola Says:
Von,

“let’s just take the backseat. There always people like that:)”

I am done with this. I like Tsonga and I think that his run in the AO is going to give him confidence but that’s if he stays healthy. He was not very healthy in ’06-’07 that’s why his rank dropped, but before the AO he won a doubles title with Gasquet.

I am a bit disappointed in Gasquet. He has a lot of talent but he seems to give up in the big moments. I think this year Murray, Gasquet, Baggy and Tsonga are going to have a better year and will make a shakeup in the top 10. Did you see my answer to that guy, he must think I am crazy. That was the only way to stop him.

I think we could still blog on other stuff. That thread was getting to me.

Dubai is coming soon and then the AMS so we’ll have some interesting topics to post about. Enjoy your day.


Zola Says:

Von,
don’t worry about the other guy. What he says is his own problem.

I have ot been following Gasquet a lot. I know he was even younger than RAfa ( a coupla months) when he won his first ATP title. He was the great hope. I remember last year before Djoko’s breakthrough he was called ” baby Federer” because of his game and his one-handed backhand. Now I thinks he lacks motivation.

A bit of this is also related to fitness. It is important to be fit enough to stay in a best of 5 match with people who hit the ball bery hard. If not, they have to have the skills to cut the points short. I notice Murray started to work on his fitness and i think he is getting better But he is still way behind. Between him and Gasquet I always want Gasquet to be in Rafa’s draw. Murray has a different an unpredictable game. If he works his issues out he can be up there with the big guys.

Tsonga, I have to see. He seems to hava a good game, but them his level dropped in the match with Djoko. Although he had one more day to rest. I don’t know if it is fitness or self-belief. It is also true that Djoko’s shots are flatter than Rafa ( RAfa rake note on hard courts!) but still he missed so many shots and serves…


Zola Says:

sorry for my typos.

“bery hard”!


Von Says:

Zola:

“…he was called ” baby Federer” because of his game and his one-handed backhand. Now I thinks he lacks motivation.”

I think the problem with Gasquet is that he was pressured since he was 9 to become France’s No.1, unfortunately, not everyone can handle that type of pressure. Why do you want him in Rafa’s part of the draw? Rafa will run him till he drops. I don’t think Gasquet can handle that kind of physicality. He has a great game, but he does not heve a running game like Rafa’s. Ferrer does, but he makes my head swim when I see him running. I become tired just looking at him. He has a very sweet personality, somewhat like Rafa’s. In fact, most of the Spaniard players are very well mannered.

Murray has the ability to be everywhere on the court but he lets his emotions get the better part of him. Being with Gilbert helped his game, but it was tough on him mentally. Gilbert can be very obnoxious. Murray needs a coach who could calm him and encourage him, not berate him.

With Tsonga, he has the game, but he blows hot and cold. However, I think in the finals he let his frustration get the better of him. Toward the end of the 3rd set he was moving again, but then the time-out stopped his momentum.

I am looking forward to Dubai. I think we will get some answers as to what we can expect for the ’08 tennis season. I think we’ll be in for some surprises. Ryan took care of that guy for me. The man must think I am a nut, but that’s the only way to get rid of some people. Just tell them a lot of stupid things. It’s fun to post but sometimes people get carried away and become abusive.


alex Says:

I can see someone is pouring poison on Serbs and Serbian players again. We don’t need another Christiane Amanpour imaged in substance lacking and medocre tennis experts. Djokovic is destined to be #1. Accept that or die of jealousy.


johnnhoj Says:

Not everyone here is in the business of hating certain players.
I like Djokovic, but not as much, simply for aesthetic reasons: style of play. He’s a two-hander and looks more labored (like Nadal), whereas Federer makes it look relatively effortless (one-handed backhand control) when in reality it’s hard work. Same reason I prefer Sampras over Agassi. Inevitably Federer’s level will drop after time, but Djokovic still has to prove he can maintain a high level throughout season after season.


Jean Says:

“We are supposed to be a civilized people and class still has its place in society. Take that away and we will probably revert to the caveman days.”

who’s to say that cavemen behaved without class? Didn’t they paint animals and live in awe of natural beauty? Jane’s type of prejudices are dangerous. They have caused great suffering to many tribal and indigenous people by so called “civilized” people. Oh, doesn’t Bush himself talk about the “civilized world”? Indeed, over 1 million Iraqui dead in the hands of the “civilized world” since the start of the occupation.

Now get your prejudices an hypocrisy out of the way and you might learn to appreciate players for who they are, not for how they should be according to your social constructs.


Von Says:

Jean:

“Now get your prejudices an hypocrisy out of the way and you might learn to appreciate players for who they are, not for how they should be according to your social constructs.”

I believe you are a bit mistaken about who wrote the post on “civilized” people. I am the one who wrote it, not Jane, hence, I am the hypocrite, not Jane. However, I may come across to you as hypocritical and also prejudicial, but we are all entitled to our opinions and standards, and the right to speak our thoughts on what we perceive to be correct decorum.


Tejuz Says:

johnnhoj:
“He’s a two-hander and looks more labored (like Nadal), whereas Federer makes it look relatively effortless (one-handed backhand control) when in reality it’s hard work. Same reason I prefer Sampras over Agassi”

Exactly the reason why i am a Fed fan… because his single-handed backhand is just beautiful to watch. The same reason i cheered for Becker, Edberg, Rafter etc.. and also like watching Haas and bit of blake, gonzo and Gasquet. The only exceptions from my fav list are Safin, Agassi and Baghdatis.. but they are beautiful ball strikers. Djoker is also a good striker of the ball.. but somehow i dont like his service and forehand actions. His backhand is great though.. but i prefer single-handed style though.


Georgina Says:

IT’S all about the winning mentality.

From what I’ve noticed, it all begins with a positive mindset. Marcos Bagdhatis is the reigning king of Happyland, proclaiming after his incredible five-set loss to Lleyton Hewitt: ‘I’m very happy. I live for matches like this…It’s a pleasure even losing it’.

Give this man a life-coach certificate – he doesn’t even need to take the exam to start his career as a motivational speaker.

Nowhere have I heard the word ‘positive’ bandied around more often than at this Grand Slam.

Ana Ivanovic, the most popular player this year, also has that mantra, as she says: ‘I try to support myself and just be positive’.

Well, she was positively crying after that anti-climactic final, but hey, at least she was positive in some way.

Her countryman and this year’s men’s champion Novak Djokovic, shared his secret of beating Roger Federer: ‘I knew that I have to believe in myself in the first place and I have to be positive on the court.’

That’s the other view that seems to be a priority on players’ minds – self-belief.

Another Serbian (they did very well this year, so I’m thinking of taking a holiday there to understand more of this winning spirit) Janko Tipsarevic, who pushed Federer to five sets and almost won, said that he had gone on court ‘with the idea that I can win’.

However, it’s one thing to have positive belief in yourself, and another to be out there and have your ass positively whooped.

What do the champions do in times like these? Well, very simply, they fight.

Serena Williams is proud of this aspect of her character, saying: ‘I just wanted to win. I just wanted to fight. That’s how I always am.’

Jelena Jankovic, (yet another Serbian. I’m booking my flight there now) who has verbalised her acting aspirations, added some drama, saying that even when she’s injured, ‘I’m like a wounded animal, but I still keep going. The most important thing is that I fight on the court, I always give my best and I never give up’.

Someone, give her an Oscar, please, I’ve got tears in my eyes.

But truly, theirs is a tough and challenging life, rife with early morning runs around the court, sweating under the hot sun, developing all manner of skin cancers and spots, and the pain of constant injury.

Maria Sharapova, the current champion, declared (a little defensively, I thought) that she didn’t get to being world No. 1 by ‘waking up and eating ice-cream. I’ve worked for all the things I’ve achieved’.

Seeing that my daily schedule heavily involves waking up, eating ice-cream as well as chicken rice, fried hokkien mee and bak kut teh, I’m disillusioned about my chances of success.

So I turned to Djokovic again, who said: ‘You need to be a little arrogant on the court to have this self-confidence, so you can get the positive outcome.’

I like his advice because eating ice-cream and being arrogant is a lot easier to do.


C. Prince Says:

What kind of credit is this :

http://www.smh.com.au/news/tennis/djokovic-family-rejoices-after-clown-prince-novak-dethrones-king-roger/2008/01/28/1201369037088.html

“Djokovic family rejoices after Clown Prince Novak dethrones king Roger”

yes,they wrote : “Clown” and not “Crown”, correct ?

or look at this one :

“Shirtless Serb Wins Australian Open”
Some hunk named Novak Djokovic of Serbia won the Australian Open Men’s Singles tennis final on Sunday — and celebrated by sipping champagne — and taking off his shirt!

http://www.swww.tmz.com/2008/01/28/shirtless-serb-wins-australian-open/

Tennis success has become an improbable lifter of spirits in Serbia. In the past two years, Serbia has revised pro-tennis’s Top 10. In Australia, Ana Ivanovic, the women’s world No. 2, reached the finals; Jelena Jankovic, No. 4, made the semifinals. Serb Nenad Zimonjic won the mixed doubles with Chinese partner Sun Tiantian. Djokovic, currently No. 3, took down fearsome Roger Federer in straight sets to win Serbia’s first major. He said in Melbourne that the Australian finals had become “the Serbian Open.”

and most important:

That all three Serbian stars have rejected lucrative offers to leave Serbia is a matter of enormous Serbian pride !!

So : “You have been Serbed” , actually… “


Lenny Says:

Ok, I’m tired of – and, frankly, a bit baffled by – all this criticism of Djokovic’s so-called “bad behaviour”.

How is declaring your intentions of beating the best arrogant?? It’s just confidence. So he talks himself up. He’s walked the talk so far, hasn’t he? Youngest player EVER to have reached all 4 slam semis. Now a slam under his belt – and I doubt very much he’s a one-slam wonder. And he’s certainly NOT the world no. 3 by default.

So he gets all worked up on court. Big deal – he’s a kid getting caught up in the moment – that’s NOT rudeness; it’s passion. Ok, so Nadal and Tsonga are kids too and don’t behave like that. Fine. Different folks, different strokes, people. Besides, he’s hardly the only one to do it, so why is he being singled out here?

So he has words with the crowds and with the umpires. GASP! HOW utterly HORRIBLE of him! WhatEVER is tennis coming to? SHUDDER! Tennis has had FAAR bigger brats, people. Johnny Mac? Nastase? Connors? Djokovic is an altar boy compared to them.

And, finally, for his impressions. Again. WHY is he being singled out and called disrespectful for them??!!! The Djoker is not tennis’ first or last mimicry artist. Roddick’s done it. Bjorkman’s beloved for it. But Djokovic is vilified for it??

Seriously. I just don’t get it.

And just to clarify – nope, not a big Nole fan. :)


Angel Says:

van,zola,ryan,…
this is a place only for tennis lovers.
be a part of this or just go away!!!


Bob22 Says:

Agreed with Angel, we are here to discuss the tennis not a garbage discussion with personalities like van,zola & ryan.


Firebrand Says:

How did this become a discussion about religion and nationalism? Actually that sort of thing IS very much a part of tennis, but mainly in the sense that it stops people from playing. Sania Mirza just pulled out of a tournament because of it.


Tejuz Says:

Fed never really liked Djoker’s attitude since he came on the scene. This defeat might just make him more determined to make amends next time.

http://www.tennis.com/features/hotshots/hotshots.aspx?id=64332

“After beating Djokovic, who has earned a reputation for taking dubious medical timeouts, in September, Federer said, “I think he’s a joke when it comes down to his injuries. The rules are there to be used, not abused. . . . I was happy to beat him.””


Von Says:

Tejuz:

So Safin, Youzjhny, and Davydenko, are playing Davis Cup next weekend. Why are they going with Davydenko? They shuld have Tursunov and Andreev. What do you think?


Von Says:

Tejuz:

“Fed never really liked Djoker’s attitude since he came on the scene. This defeat might just make him more determined to make amends next time.”

Why would Fed want to make amends.


Tejuz Says:

Von:
“So Safin, Youzjhny, and Davydenko, are playing Davis Cup next weekend. Why are they going with Davydenko? They shuld have Tursunov and Andreev. What do you think?”

Yah..Tursunov or Andreev are good choices, they are flashy and big hitters. But Devydenko is more consistent, no wonder he has been in top 5 for couple of years now. Dont think he can stop Djoker though, it has to be Youzhny or/and Safin to beat Djoker in the individual ties. Russia really are spoilt for choices here… they can make two Davis Cup teams if it were possible.

Youzhny is the man in form.. so i presume he will play both his singles. Safin and Davy might play one each.


Von Says:

Tejuz:

“Russia really are spoilt for choices here… they can make two Davis Cup teams if it were possible.”

That’s so true. Look at the US, only 2 players and 1 doubles team. They need some alternates.


Tejuz Says:

yeah… but then US has No 1 doubles team .. and their 2 players are/were in top 10. Russia in the other hand do not have a great doubles team which is vital when facing a team like US.


Von Says:

Tejuz:

“Russia in the other hand do not have a great doubles team which is vital when facing a team like US.”

Agreed. A Doubles win can tip the scales even if a team is losing. That win will give the singles players hope and encouragement that they can pull off the big “W.” The Bryans have bailed out the US DC team quite a few times.


Von Says:

TO: Tejuz and Fed fans.

You and other Fed fans might find the following interesting. However, I can’t repeat the interview verbatim, so please excuse me if my facts are a little inaccurate.

I was watching the Tennis Channel this evening while Chris Myers was interviewing a retired Aussie Grand Slam Doubles player in Emerson’s era. I think his name was, Willy Owens(?) I don’t know if the name is correct. Anyway, Chris Myers asked this guy, who has won about 12 GS doubles championships, about his win against Emerson. Myers’ question was: “So you beat Emerson in —— singles match?” And, the guy answered, “I had a “victory” (emphasis added) over Emerson. Then Myers atated: “I noticed that you turned the words around.” The guy answered: “Well, you don’t beat a repeat Grand Slam Champion with just one win. It’s a victory. You only “beat” (emphasis added) him when you have surpassed all of his records. I had a victory, and he lost to me.”

I thought that answer was very humble and at the same time insightful. Fed fans, some food for thought. It was a “victory” not a “beating.”


Von Says:

Zola:

The above relates to Rafa also. Tsonga had a victory over Rafa. He did not “beat” Rafa. To me “beating” is like taking a baseball bat and physically hitting someone until they drop. I suppose that’s why they have a “win and loss” stat and not a “beat” stat.


Tejuz Says:

Von:
Nice post ..it was nicely put by Owens.


Tejuz Says:

Djoker might have won a small battle.. it might have slowed down Fed, but he is going to conquer every record in sight… except for maybe a calendar GS.


Von Says:

Tejuz:

I thought it was interesting and relevant to the GS win and Fed. What do you think?


Maja Says:

Djokovic is a great person and player, anyone who’s not objective enough to accept something what’s obvious can only cry about it.


Zola Says:

Von,
I just saw your comment. Very interesting statement from Owens: victory vs beating!
Well, being humble is something that I look for in the athletes and that’s why I like Rafa so much and dislike the arrogant type. I liked Rafter for the same reason. A good person, firm when he was attacked, but humble otherwise.


Von Says:

Zola:

“I just saw your comment. Very interesting statement from Owens: victory vs beating!”

That’s what I like about Rafa. He told the press that Tsonga “played unbelievable.” He’s a classy young man. I don’t like him wearing out himself running so much. He needs to cut down, or else he’ll wear himself out and his knees.


Zola Says:

Von,
In his spanish blog for El-mundo, he wrote : Tsonga beat me and beat me good. that’s it!”.
My impression from AO was that he was tryig to end points faster. He is serving a bit better and he withdrew from Davis cup against Peru. So, I am hoping that he is tryig to do something about it.


bob22 Says:

Maja, I am with you. Djokovic is here to stay, they can hate or ignore him it won’t help.

In my opinion Federer, has issue with sportsmanship and recognizing other players. This is not just his fault. For last couple years they called him the best player ever in a tennis. Looking back in my oppinion, Borg and Sampras are ahead of Federer. Just check who was challenging him? Rodick,Henman, Ferero, Nalbandian, Hewitt, Safin, Blake, Davydenko and since 2006 Nadal. There are all great players but not stars. I am asking myself what will be if he was facing McEnroe, Lendl, Guillermo Vilas, Connors? I am afraid for pure popularity of sport, cable networks in their best interest are promoting current tennis champions and bringing more weight to them then they actually deserve.


Von Says:

Zola:

“So, I am hoping that he is tryig to do something about it.”

I think that he has come to realize that the only way he is going to be No. 1 or stay at No. 2, would be to change the physicality of his game. He’s too young to have those knee problems. He might lose a few times changing his game, but once he has perfected the change, he’ll start winning again. But, all things aside, he has to conserve his energy. We’ll see how he does at IW and Miami.

At the AO, when Tsonga was just hitting those wicked volleys and his ground strokes, Rafa just stood up, smiled and shook his head. It was like he was saying, I can’t stop you, so have fun.


Von Says:

Zola:

I would like to see Rafa get the No. 1 befoe the Djoker. Rafa is the only man that has been at No. 2 for 3-4 years. It’s about time he gets a change. However, I bet if he does get the No. 1 ranking, he’ll still be humble. His family is a his strength and has shown themselves to be humble.

I came across an interview with Vilander, about the Djok’s family. Here it is:

“Katie |

Mats Wilander’s take on Djoker’s parents at the Australian Open.

Swedish interviewer Annette Sjober: “In all your years have you ever seen security having to guard the parents of a player during a match?”

Wilander: “No, that was really unbelievable. I’ve never seen it before. Not only security but the lower tournament director sitting by the family box. You know, it seems they [the Djokovic parents] were bothered that the crowd was pro-Tsonga. Well, Tsonga is a modest guy, you know, he’s very popular in the locker room and with fans. Novak is, a little, not too modest.”

Interviewer: “Do you know why the security guards were by the Djokovic family?”

Wilander: “Well, they are known to talk trash, let’s say. Even to players on the court. It’s one thing to encourage your player, but they take this to a level I’ve just never seen. Just because there’s some pro-Tsonga people behind them, you know, with their faces painted the French colors, they get upset and complain. I’ve never heard of a player’s family interjecting themselves like this or complaining. That’s just sports. Get used to it.”

Interviewer: “Novak seemed upset in the first two sets that the crowd wasn’t supporting him.”

Wilander: “Well again, he needs to get used to it. I’ve played in
Davis Cup matches where we were booed and heckled and all the rest. It comes with the territory. He’s not endearing himself to fans or press people, just a timely warning. It’s always better to play down your strengths and not trumpet up your own wins. And the family aspect is very weird at the moment.”

As you can see, we’re not the only ones who fell the Djok’s family’s behavior was thumbs down.”

Any comments?


Tejuz Says:

Von:

Thats a nice post.. Wilander certainly said it right about endearing oneself to fans. Especially if one is aspiring to be No 1 or 2. You got to earn respect from the crowd and ur opponents. Almost everybody including the crowd respects Fed (probably not Djoker and his family) and most of them respect Nadal too (except for maybe Soderling). Djoker with his poor imitations and arrogant attitude certainly is far from acheiving that kind of respect. He may be a good player.. but there is still a lot to work on to be a great CHAMPION.


Von Says:

Tejuz:

I agree. What happened, did you shock yourself twice?


Bob22 Says:

You are very inconsistent with your statement. If Djokovic’s fans were insulting Tsonga parents it will be competently different story. On one side I hear from the same people how tennis use to be a classy, how Djokovic is provocative to empire etc. On the other side it is ok when Rodick does what he did. It is ok to sit behind parents and insult them in from of 12 year old child! If you do not know that is criminal offense. Do you remember what happened to Monika Seles in Germany who at a time played for Yugoslavia? After that incident she could not play for 3 years. The guy who tried to killed her was never jailed?! Do you want this incident to happen again? You are justifying this type of behavior, as long as it is not against side you support! I am asking everyone how it was possible to have the most abusive people sitting just behind the Djokovic’s parents? You can’t change my opinion that this was not staged. Even after two weeks after the match you are still dragging about. Why ? Why are you doing it? What do you want to accomplish?

This is why I am against this discussion because it is not related to tennis any more. Sean you are responsible because you do not control hate and racial discrimination that is present on this postings! You should delete all these messages to remove hate violence!


Maja Says:

Big hug to Bob22 from me! :)

And for the others – I don’t understand this story and confusing conclusions – first of all – Djokovic is VERY popular all around the world and he has a lot of fans, that story about respect and other things – it’s just your imagionation – I don’t even see why you think people don’t like him – it’s simply not true – famous people invite him on dinner and Wilander said Djokovic is a smartest player from his aspect.


Maja Says:

By the way – Wilander is just making fool of himself with that comments you put there – if it’s even truth that he said that – Djokovic’s parents didn’t become upset because they are more Tsonga fans, but because those fans behind there back were rude and they were acting inapropriately. And Tsonga is not very modest – it was so pathetic when he didn’t shake hands with the judge at the and of the game… he’s not a fair player – always complaining something… his parents were acting like they are in the box ring – and nobody says that’s cheep – I’m sorry but it’s cheep and wild – Djokovic’s parents were just cheering while Tsonga’s dad was like a wild animal, he looked like the game is a combat. And it’s very modest when Tsonga says for himself “not anyone can beat the players I beat” – wow!

And yet for Wilander – it’s obvious that he’s not born to be a journalist, too bad he can’t play tennis anymore so now he had to look at those young people and to be jelious.


Tejuz Says:

Von:

I am not shocking myself.. i leave it to Djoker to do that (as Branimir says) .. twice this year .. am sure it wont be more that that ;-)


Von Says:

Tejuz:

“I am not shocking myself..”

Well, if you can’t get the shocks from Djok, there’s always the light bulb socket. Enjoy the shocks. Can you feel them?


Tejuz Says:

I’ll probabaly wait for Djoker’s shocks first… and if i dont get it by Wimbledon, then will try the light bulb one ;-)


Zola Says:

Von,
thanks for that Wilander interview. I think the whole thing is just weird.


Von Says:

Zola:

“..thanks for that Wilander interview. I think the whole thing is just weird.”

You’re welcome. Weird, what do you mean?


Zola Says:

Von,
Well, just he fact that even Wilander noticed things…


Von Says:

Zola:

Got ya. It could be a learning tool for all young players.


Maja Says:

It’s very funny when Roddick’s fans are giving others a lecture from culture while Roddick is showing so much bad attitude whan he was arguing with the judge like a dog just becaus he sucks – Djokovic could be a culture teacher to you all, you don’t even know the way to find a real reason not to like him so you have to find some poor “reasons” while the tennis players which you like are so much more arrogant and opposite to culture…

And looking back to your posts it seems like while tennis is played your eyes are open wide for anything else but a tennis play… you are looking how someone you don’t like winks, or how he looks the way you don’t like, how he blinks with his eyes and you’re desperate to find Djokovic’s bad side because it’s so hard but you have to do it… it’s just jeliousy because Roddick sucks at tennis now and you see someone so much better so you have to throw stones at him. I’m really sorry for you – if you like Roddick what are you doing here wasting so much time talking sh*t about Djokovic, looking for the hair on the egg like you have nothing smarter or more important to do with your lives – really pathetic. I’m sorry for you people, I just don’t see how come you’re not ashame of yourselves, don’t you see you’re acting embberassing – I can’t imagine how bad would you act at the tennis court when you’re acting here so stupid and lame.


Von Says:

Zola:

Both Rafa and Ferrer pulled out of Davis Cup. Only Verdasco, Robredo are the singles players. It will be tough for Spain to win without Rafa and Ferrer.


Von Says:

Tejuz:

Safin and Tursunov are playing doubles for Russia in Davis Cup. I thought Tarpischev would have gone with Safin and Andreev for singles since it’s clay. As you stated Russia has so many players to choose from they could make 2 DC teams. This will be a very interesting tie. I hope Tarpischev knows what he’s doing leaving out Safin in the singles rubbers.


Tejuz Says:

Von:
Safin could play reverse singles if its a deciding rubber. So i dont rule out chances of Safin playin. He has always delivered during crunch situations in Davis Cup encounters.


Von Says:

Tejuz:

“He has always delivered during crunch situations in Davis Cup encounters>”

Agree. Russia is playing right now on the Tennis Channel and they are 2 sets to 1 Russia. This is the first rubber. Usually after the doubles, Tarpischev makes his move. It’s not noisy at all. It seems that they only play the US or Argentina on clay. They’re using a hard court.


zola Says:

Von
***Both Rafa and Ferrer pulled out of Davis Cup. Only Verdasco, Robredo are the singles players. It will be tough for Spain to win without Rafa and Ferrer. ***

I know they pulled out after AO. I think they will be fine against Peru. I am not sure how many top 20 or top 50 players Peru has. Lopez is also joining the Spanish team. So I am hopeful.

well, Djoko withdrew from Davis cup in the last minute with an illness and Tipsy with a stomach bug .Youzhny won his match and right now Davydenko is 4-1 in his last set of5! So, good for Russia!


Skorocel Says:

Bob22 said: “The guy who tried to killed her was never jailed?!”

Well, that’s how it sometimes goes in this “democracy”…


Von Says:

Zola:

“Djoko withdrew from Davis cup in the last minute with an illness and Tipsy with a stomach bug.”

Do you think Fed passed on his stomach bug to them? Very strange. I saw Djok moving around the team box during the Davydenko match. I guess he pulled out before his match. For the time being our questions will remain unanswered.


Ave Says:

Von, Tejuz, Zola….is it actally a same person talking with himself ?

this is not your private forum, take a brake or send each other a private email…

We want to hear from others, as well..

no hard feelings…


Davis Says:

Djokovic, playing his first match since winning his first Grand Slam title in Melbourne last month, joined forces with Nenad Zimonjic to thrash Russians Mikhail Youzhny and Dmitry Tursunov 3:0 in the doubles portion of their first-round matchup.

Russia benefited from Novak Djokovic’s misfortune to sneak into the quarter-finals of the Davis Cup .

The Serbian, who had been suffering from flu symptoms over the past week, was leading Nikolay Davydenko 2:0 in the first reverse singles when he abruptly retired to hand Russia an unbeatable 3-1 lead in the first-round tie in Moscow.

Another Serbian, Viktor Troicki beat Dmitry Tursunov 3:0 in the final rubber to narrow Russia’s winning margin to 3-2.


Tejuz Says:

Either you play the match only when you know you can go the distance or just let others do the job because its finally going to affect the the Team.

When a fatigued Fed lost to Nalbandian in a 5-set marathon at Masters Cup 2005, he was leading 2 sets to love.. which actually went past 2 hours. Thats when he started feeling fatigue and his sore ankle dint help him. Next 2 sets he was beaten convincingly. He could have thrown in the towel when he was down 0-4 in the 5th… but he fought back with whatever was left in him.. to take the set to a tie-breaker and lost graciously. He did say that time.. if he wasnt feeling well he would not play the match, but if he did play.. then he would make sure he would never retire so as to take nothing away from the opponent’s victory.

We have seen this retiring stuff from Djoker sooooooooo many times… and thats not how champions behave. Because if champion’s lose.. they lose graciously with a fight.


Tejuz Says:

Ave:

if you want to hear from others… then why not take a break from this site or start posting yourself…


Tejuz Says:

Ave:

Do you think we are stopping others from posting… best you can do is ignore our post and get along..


Von Says:

Ave:

“Ave Says:

Von, Tejuz, Zola….is it actally a same person talking with himself?”

Absolutely, same peron with three different personalities and we make a great trio, don’t you think?

We three schizophrenic personalities experience a great amount of claustrophobia locked into one person’s brain and at times we break free and become von, zola and tejuz.

You stated: “this is not your private forum, take a brake or send each other a private email…”

Oh my, a private forum eh? Does that mean, you have the licensing rights to this forum and we are infringing on those rights? Well then, I would think that you have a good case for equitable remedy in a court of law. There are many lawyers out there who do pro bono work, I’m sure one of them could help you.

You also stated: “We want to hear from others, as well..”

Then tell others to post. No one is stopping them. This forum has a large enough database to accommodate additional posts. Unfortunately, not too many people have much to contribute when discussing a topic. They lack insight and the ability to express themselves via the written word. Consequently, they do what you’re doing, wait for someone to post and then attack that person’s post, criticizing and ridiculing them. And, when they are finished with their onslaught of abuse, they pat themselves on the back for a job well done and think that they engaged in posting.

You stated : “no hard feelings…”

No hard feelings here either. But that is an unnecessary statement. You should have the courage of your convictions. When you express yourself don’t detract from it by using such statements.

Remember, Ave, that this forum is open to all. Each one is entitled to his or her opinions and the right to express them. If you don’t like our opinions, then you have a problem. Ridiculing us is an exercise in futility.


Von Says:

Davis:

You stated: “Djokovic, playing his first match since winning his first Grand Slam title in Melbourne last month, joined forces with Nenad Zimonjic to thrash Russians Mikhail Youzhny and Dmitry Tursunov 3:0 in the doubles portion of their first-round matchup.”

If Zimonjic didn’t win that doubles match, then he should play some other sport. He is a double’s specialist and Djokovic plays doubles. Youzhny and Tursunov are NOT doubles specialists. How about Zimonjic taking on the Bryan Brothers?

“Another Serbian, Viktor Troicki beat Dmitry Tursunov 3:0 in the final rubber to narrow Russia’s winning margin to 3-2.”

It was a dead rubber for Russia. Tursunov has a tournament next week. Do you think that he is going to knock himself out knowing that Russia had already won. Get real. What do you call a trshing, 6-0? Then that did not happen. This statement is so lame.

That post of yours is not your words, you copied that from an article someone else wrote. I read that article too. You lack originality!


Von Says:

Charles Says:

“Djokovic, playing his first match since winning his first Grand Slam title in Melbourne last month, joined forces with Nenad Zimonjic to thrash Russians Mikhail Youzhny and Dmitry Tursunov 6-3, 7-6, 7-6 in the doubles portion of their first-round matchup.

Russia benefited from Novak Djokovic’s misfortune to sneak into the quarter-finals of the Davis Cup .

The Serbian, who had been suffering from flu symptoms over the past week, was leading Nikolay Davydenko 6-4 6-3 4-6 in the first reverse singles when he abruptly retired to hand Russia an unbeatable 3-1 lead in the first-round tie in Moscow.

Another Serbian, Viktor Troicki beat Dmitry Tursunov 7-6 4-6 6-3 in the final rubber to narrow Russia’s winning margin to 3-2. ”

And Davis stated:

“Davis Says:
Djokovic, playing his first match since winning his first Grand Slam title in Melbourne last month, joined forces with Nenad Zimonjic to thrash Russians Mikhail Youzhny and Dmitry Tursunov 3:0 in the doubles portion of their first-round matchup.

Russia benefited from Novak Djokovic’s misfortune to sneak into the quarter-finals of the Davis Cup .

The Serbian, who had been suffering from flu symptoms over the past week, was leading Nikolay Davydenko 2:0 in the first reverse singles when he abruptly retired to hand Russia an unbeatable 3-1 lead in the first-round tie in Moscow.

Another Serbian, Viktor Troicki beat Dmitry Tursunov 3:0 in the final rubber to narrow Russia’s winning margin to 3-2.”
________________

Well folks, isn’t it amazing we have two people, Charles and Davis, using the same language, commas, periods and format under two different names. Charles inserted the scores for each set and Davis didn’t. They ech posted under different threads too. Is this possible Are they twins?

You guys are so transparent with your little games. So many of you are posting several times, but changing the names. Not only did you change the names, but you copied an article written by a reporter. My, oh, my. DO YOU THINK PEOPLE ARE SO NAIVE. WHAT’S NEXT?


Von Says:

Tejuz:

“We have seen this retiring stuff from Djoker sooooooooo many times… and thats not how champions behave. Because if champion’s lose.. they lose graciously with a fight.”

Djok does this so that it wouldn’t appear on his win/loss stats.


Tejuz Says:

Von:
“Djok does this so that it wouldn’t appear on his win/loss stats. ”

It does appear on his win/loss stat.. except that it doesnt appear as convincing win for the opponent. People would say, Nadal won those matches against Djoker at French and Wimbledon because Djoker was not fit during the match and not because he was out-played.


Von Says:

Tejuz:

>>>”because Djoker was not fit during the match and not because he was out-played…”>>>>

Thanks for the info, but that’s what I meant. The stats will show that Davydenko did not really win the match, so it would appear that something was wrong with Djok. I have seen Roddick, Sampras, Baghdatis, Hewitt, and other players just tough it out so that the opponent could get an outright win.

Did you read those two comments, same wording, from two different people? Unreal. We currently have a few people doing that now. I can identify them from their writing style. It’s very childish.


Zola Says:

Ave,
***Von, Tejuz, Zola….is it actally a same person talking with himself ?

this is not your private forum, take a brake or send each other a private email…***

If we are the same person, how can we send “each other” private mail?
a bit self-contradictory ….but no hard feelings!

Yeeaaaay…Russia won. Good for Davydenko. No comment on Djoko for obvious reasons!

Von ( or Tejuz or myself!),
Regarding your last post,a good example was Rafa-Ferrer during US Open. It was painful to see him sit on the ground with pain, but he let Ferrer win the match. Or in Chennai against Youzhny he was so exhausted he could not sit through the ceremony..I think it brings lots of respect from the other players.


Zola Says:

I also have to say that I am not pro-retirement in important matches. Maybe the first round of a GS or a master series, I can uncerstand. But important matches, I can’t. It took me a long time to get over Justin’s retirement against Amelie in AO 2006 final.


Tejuz Says:

somehow i cant see my posts after posting them.. weird..


Tejuz Says:

I tries to post these link atleast 5 times… but funnily its not showing up on the blog. Sorry if you get to see them more than once. I just wanted to make sure my post went through


Von Says:

Zola:

“It took me a long time to get over Justin’s retirement against Amelie in AO 2006 final.”

I stopped supporting Justine for that lack of gamesmanship on her part against Amelie. I like Amelie’s class and she has a great serve and volley net play. So sorry about her being sidelined by injuries.

Up to the present time commentators still remark on Justine’s behavior. A gransd slam finals, is so important, why take away from her glory. I gess as the saying goes, “Different strokes for different folks.” That’s stretching it too far.

Rafa has and will always be a class act.


Von Says:

Zola:

“Von, Tejuz, Zola….is it actally a same person talking with himself ?
this is not your private forum, take a brake or send each other a private email..”

My opinion on this is that the same people who are accusing us are the ones who are posting under several different names. Just take a look at the Charles an Davis posts. I copied them, and placed them their posts on top of each other and it is clear that it’s the same person, and what’s even more hilarious he/she copied a reporter’s article.

This is not going to stop because there are those who use the comments from these posters to take a swipe at us, and then preach about each poster’s entitlement to their opinions.


Von Says:

tejuz:

About your posts being repeated, I experienced that problem before. I ended up posting the same post 3 times. However, in your case, it’s only coming up as one post. You’re OK.


rogers twin sister Says:

I guess Sean’s got to be right at some point given his abysmal record of calling the winners. Maybe this is his one shot, but I highly doubt it. Roll on, Sean.


rogers twin sister Says:

Von: You actually wasted time printing out posts, laying them side by side, comparing every nuance? Wow! You really do live here. You need to find a life.


Charles Davis Says:

The fact that Serbia can come away from Moscow having lost 3-2 with only one fully fit player (Troicki, who earned himself a 22nd birthday present by winning the dead rubber) is a fact the tennis world should note. True, Russia had its own problems – as well as Safin’s illness and injury, Tarpischev admitted that Davydenko had an abdominal strain and Youzhny wasn’t 100 per cent fit, though as that was in answer to the question “Do Serbia’s injuries devalue Russia’s win” it’s fair to wonder whether there may have been a little exaggeration for the sake of team pride. But the sense at the end of the weekend was that Serbia will be back, and stronger. In fact Tarpischev suggested that, with a more favourable draw, the young nation might even have gone all the way in the 2008 Davis Cup by BNP Paribas.

The future looks bright for the Serbian nation, even if it’s Russia who will be welcoming the Czechs in Moscow in April’s quarterfinals.


Charles Davis Says:

Von wrote:” Well folks, isn’t it amazing we have two people, Charles and Davis, using the same language, commas, periods and format under two different names. Charles inserted the scores for each set and Davis didn’t. They ech posted under different threads too. Is this possible Are they twins?”

No Von , is it same person. Me.

Charles Davis


Zola Says:

Charles Davis:
***in fact Tarpischev suggested that, with a more favourable draw, the young nation might even have gone all the way in the 2008 Davis Cup by BNP Paribas.***

This reminds me of ** although I lost, I was in control*** comment. Maybe it is not a personal thing! Yes, if Fed was not ill, he might have won his 12th Slam title in AO!


Charles Davis Says:

zola : What’s go up must go down :)

Fed was tennis genius.

He is awesome player and real gentleman, as well…

Serbian Joker was 6-4, 6-3, 3-0 ahead of Davydenko of Russia, after two and a half hours on court , when he decided to retired.

However, Fed loses to Novak Djokovic of Serbia – in straight sets, 7-5, 6-3, 7-6. He was knocked out by young Serb.

It’s always a shock when Roger Federer loses a tennis match.

So, against Federer, Djokovic proves his time has come.

C.D.


Zola Says:

Charles,
I agree with :What’s go up must go down

and I am not a Fed fan by any means. I also think Djoko is very talented.

BUT
I think I need to see a match between a healthy Fed and a healthy Djoko to say if this is the last year of Fed or not. He is very fit and very confident and has all the shots. So, I guess I will be waiting to see how they do in Dubai/IW/Miami…


Charles Davis Says:

Those who saw Djokovic beat the world No. 1 at the Rogers Cup in Montreal last summer saw a preview. The Serb kept every ball deep in the court , keeping Federer on his back foot and playing defence more than he would have liked.

As I said : Djokovic proves his time has come.


Zola Says:

Charles,
I think US Open final was after Montreal!

So, still, I want to see a match this year betwen the two. Just look at the condition of Tipsy and Djoko at the Davis cup. Federer played like that until semi-final.

So, I respect your enthusiasm for Djoko but I want to see the next match when fed is healthy.


Von Says:

rogers twin sister;

“Von: You actually wasted time printing out posts, laying them side by side, comparing every nuance? Wow! You really do live here. You need to find a life.”

No. I have a good memory. I was reading both threads and I remembered the post from the other thread being similar, I also rembered a similar article I read, so I copied each post (paste and copy in the computer) and put one on top of the other, and saw I was correct so I posted it to let the person know that he is posting as two people. I guess I need a life, but I do a lot of research on the computer, and the sum total in minutes to post is about 45 minutes. Some long posts are about 15 minutes and short ones about a minute to type plus reading, I’d say 1 hour total per day, that’s my down time. I read and typed this post in 2 minutes. This is a breather from my legal research and comparing statutes, and case histories, arguments, etc.

I am smiling that you think I would print this stuff, no way. I don’t even proofread so if you see typos that’s the reason.


Von Says:

rogers twin sister:

As a matter of fact, I proved my point that the article was written by a reporter. I fyou notice the actual posting by the individual you’ll see the difference in the language, missing prepositions and conjunctions, ets.


Von Says:

Charles Davis:

“The fact that Serbia can come away from Moscow having lost 3-2 with only one fully fit player (Troicki, who earned himself a 22nd birthday present by winning the dead rubber) is a fact the tennis world should note..”

In Davis Cup, for most countries, they let the doubles players play the dead rubber, so the other team can get a win and not be bageled. As I said, some countries, not all. The US does it and Russia does the same, so I wouldn’t put too much emphasis on the dead rubber wins. Tarpischewv could have used Youzhny, but why tire the guy, he has a tournament to play next week. The US used their doubles team for the dead rubbers. Blake had to be at a tournament today.


Von Says:

Charles Davis:

You stated: “What’s go up must go down .

There’s a song that goes like that, What goes up, must come down, spinning wheel….

That’s what we are doing now, were spinning our wheels, tryng to figure out the woula, coula, shoula. Only time will tell.

As Zola stated, when both Fed and Djok are healthy and play each other, then we’ll get our answers, other than that we’ll just be spinning our wheels. :)


Von Says:

Please excuse the typos. “.. tryng to figure out the woula, coula, shoula. Only time will tell..”

should read, tryng to figure out the woulda, coulda, shoulda. Only time will tell.

Sorry.


Tejuz Says:

Comon .. we wont ever get a Healty Fed vs Health Djoker match.. cuz am sure if Fed starts beating the hell out of Djoker, Djoker is gonna pull out something from his bag of tricks and try to retire before the final set. Am pretty damn sure about that.. when u look at his post match comments… either he will say he CHOCKED or he had a sore back or somethin to do with HIMSELF.


Tejuz Says:

CHOKED ;-) sorry for the typo


Zola Says:

Tejuz,
Then I go with just “healthy Fed”!


Maja Says:

You are all restless with your bitter talk about Djokovic, that’s so sad – get a life!


Marko, Serbia Says:

To Mr. Davis : Your remark is awesome, thank you !

quote:

Serbian Joker was 6-4, 6-3, 3-0 ahead of Davydenko of Russia, after two and a half hours on court , when he decided to retired.

However, Fed loses to Novak Djokovic of Serbia – in straight sets, 7-5, 6-3, 7-6. He was knocked out by young Serb.

It’s always a shock when Roger Federer loses a tennis match.

So, against Federer, Djokovic proves his time has come.


Marko, Serbia Says:

Georgina : You are most welcome!

quote: “Another Serbian (they did very well this year, so I’m thinking of taking a holiday there to understand more of this winning spirit)….”

again : WELCOME TO SERBIA ! We are friendly people and friendly country!


bob22 Says:

Marko:
>again : WELCOME TO SERBIA ! We are friendly people and friendly country!

Marko, you r right on that one!


gordon Says:

I made prediction that Tsonga will fail against Ancic. I gues I was right. My second one is Djokovic’s climbing on the hill… He will won Franch open and acomplished what Federer never did. It will not be easy but with the talent he has he deserve it. Go Nole Go!


Zola Says:

Gordon,
If Tsonga could play with that level, he would have been No 1. The consistency is what makes likes of Federer and Rafa such great champions. Besides, Ancic is a great player. I am so glad that he is over those illnesses and injuries. whenever he was able to compete, he has been great.

Djokovic has to get fit first and has to find a solution for his frequent retirements. It doesn’t look good when he retires on Sunday and makes his country lose the Davis cup tie then comes back on Wednesday to a tournament. But I guess no one was surprised. He is talented for sure, but only time will tell about the results. I would never speculate.


rogers twin sister Says:

Can we disperse with the pro-Serbian propaganda here? This is supposed to be about tennis. It’s not as though you allow Albanians to tell you what they think about Serbia.


rogers twin sister Says:

I’m predicting that Mario Ancic (if he’s completely recovered) will make short work of Djokovic in the rankings. Gilles Simon knocked The Djoker out in the second round of Marseilles today, so I’ll have to wait to see an Ancic/Djoker match.


Lilly Says:

And I`m predicting that Nole will make short work of Roger in the rankings…;)

They did play before…Guess who is more successful?

But it`s great that Ancic is coming back hopefully he will go back to the place that he deserves definately in top ten


Zola Says:

rogers twin sister,
Ancic is a very good player with a great attitude. I, too , hope for his complete recovery and would love to see a Djoko-Ancic match.

Liliy,
Djoko needs to get rid of the “retirement” disease first and get fit enough to be able to play a 5-set match. H ewon Montreal, lost in first round of cincy. played final in US Open and vanished the reat of the year. Lost 3-0 in Shanghai. He won the AO , but he retired once and now he lost. Have you ever seen federer be like that? The word is called “consistency”.


Zola Says:

Seriously, judging from many matches that I have seen, Djoko needs to be more fit. It might be his body and the problem with breathing, or maybe he becomes too nervous and can’t breath properly. But far too many times, he is out of energy. I have seen him tank sets to be able to recover and gain energy.I think that’s a serious set back for him and as he stays more on the tour, the opponents catch that. But he is young and he might improve on that.


Lilly Says:

Zola,

I agree with you. He himself has said times after times. I saw some of the match today and he was completely out of it.But it`s the flu… He souldn`t have played this tournament at all. By the way, after US Open Djokovic almost singlehandedly bounced Australia from DC, and then went on to win Vienna and get to the Semis of Madrid.


Lilly Says:

By the way if I remember correctly last year he retired only once in Wimbledon.


Zola Says:

well,It is too much pressure and lots of work. Sometimes I think he over-extends his abilities. He has the skills but the body is not there. I am not sure if it is a breathing problem or general fitness. I am sure he will get better but it is a problem right now.


Zola Says:

lilly ,
you are right about Vienna and Madrid but DC is a team effort. He can win two matches. What about the third one? I think the rest of the team deserves credit too.


Von Says:

Zola:

“Djoko needs to get rid of the “retirement” disease first and get fit enough to be able to play a 5-set match.”

Absolutely. You and Tejuz just come up with the best descriptions. My compliments.

I am glad to see “Baby Goran” is healthy again. Hopefully, he can stay healthy. I saw him on an interview recently. He stated that he is also working on a law degree so that when he retires from tennis, he’ll have that to fall back on.


Lilly Says:

Zola,

Yes,it`s the pressure. I said almost. He played doubles as well with Zimonjic.
Imagine any other sport like football or basketball where you share the pressure with your teamates and if you lose you are not out of it, you have more chances. While in tennis you lose one match and you are out and you have to win week after week… And a football game is 90 minutes and you can score a couple of goals and just wait for the to time pass, in tennis you can be there alone for hours. I think all of them are true warriors. It`s a cruel sport.


Lilly Says:

And just to see what kind of disaster was Moscow. There is this challenger going on in Belgrade. Tipsarevic retired in the first set. Zimonjic was supposed to play singles but he didn`t play. which is sad since the reason he wanted to play was because it is his club`s tournament. While Troicki is in quarter finals having beaten Alex Bogdanovic of GB. So good for Viktor…


Von Says:

Well, wonders never cease, but daily increase.

For all Baggy and Murray fans:

“Baghdatis out-aced Ivo Karlovic, 15 to 14, and saved all six break point chances earned by the Croat to advance with the 6-4, 6-4 win.”

I had to read this article twice. Baggy out-acing Karlovic. Wow.

“Fourth-seeded Scot Andy Murray repeated his Doha final victory over Stanislas Wawrinka of Switzerland..”

Murray’s ankle has improved considerably.


Zola Says:

Von,
There are some players that I have been dying to see, but I never get to. Ancic is one of them and Monfils the other.I also want to see Gulbis. Got to see Ancic a bit I think in Madrid. Not only he is a great player, but I have never heard anything from him suggesting arrogance. Is he going to be in Rotterdam?

Lilly
no question. One person, in front of thousands. Needs tremendous focus. And physically, playing 2, 3, 4 hours day after day for a week or two, travel all around the world,…. But that’s why they get 1.4 million for two weeks of work. Tension is part of tennis and every player has to deal with it. Well, he is young and I bet he will be coached on how to deal with it.


Von Says:

Zola:

“Is he going to be in Rotterdam?”

I don’t know. He did not play last year, so he does not have any points to defend. In fact, most of last year he has been out, so this year whatever he wins, or most of what he wins, should move him up in the rankings. The draw should be out by Friday/Saturday. If I see anything I’ll let you know. As for arrogance, No. He has a rather sweet/shy manner. Also, he is well-educated. I liked him even more when I saw his interview. He says he reads a lot and he has several hobbies. I was very impressed.

I like Monfils too, but he needs to put on some weight and not jump around so much to avoid injuries. He is very charismatic.

Well, as I stated Gasquet’s problem is not talent, consistency. He too was knocked out of Marseille.

I couldn’t believe my eyes when I read that Baggy out-aced Karlovic. Unbelievable.


Zola Says:

Von,
**Baghdatis out-aced Ivo Karlovic, 15 to 14, and saved all six break point chances earned by the Croat to advance with the 6-4, 6-4 win.”**

This is amazing! wow! Go Baggy!


Von Says:

ZoIa:

had to read the article 2 times. I thought something was wrong with my glasses.

Gasquet lost and Murray won. Tsonga lost yesterday. If Ancic can stay healthy for this tournament, he could win the whole thing.


Lilly Says:

Zola,

A good (not great) basketball player in NBA gets 10mil $ per year… while Federer earned smth like that in prizes last year, of course he erned much more from sponsorship deals.

Gulbis comes from Nikki Pilic`s academy. Pilic criticized Gulbis last year for not taking it serious. Gulbis stated he hates watching tennis. He is a huge talent, but whether he`ll reach the top is a big question. I feel that tennis is a kind of hobby for him.


Daniel Says:

I like Ancic too! Two years ago he and Djoko were the ones that really impress me. But wasn’t he who had a fight over the net with someone last year in a Slam? I don’t remember who was involved with him just that was another giant. I was shocked with this behavior and until today don’t know the reason.


rogers twin sister Says:

Daniel: When Ancic and Djokovic play a match, watch out for sparks to fly! Croatia and Serbia are enemies. Go Ancic!!


Zola Says:

Von,
would love to see Ancic win this one.
Although Baggy seems on fire. I guess his match with Youzhny will tell if he played great or Karlovic had a bad day.

Lilly,
I heard that Gulbis’s family are very rich and he goes to places on his own plane. Still, very composed on court.

Daniel,
was that Ancic? who knows maybe we see something. But generally he did not strike me as arrogant. All the croatian team looks like nice people. Would love to see an Ancic-Djoko match.


Daniel Says:

I hope we can see a lot of Djovo-Ancic matches this year, see some new rivalry other them those involving Fed and Nadal. In fact Fed actually has only two rivalries, with Nadal and Nalbandian. Even with the win at AO Djoko has a long way to go to catch Fed.

to Zola:
Yes, I don`t think he is arrogant, he is very likeable, but I remember that fact and wonder if anyone knows what happened and with who he fight with.

I expect Ancic and Murray to go the finals in Marseille.


Lilly Says:

Zola,

Yes, Gulbis`s father is a millionaire and his grandfather was a basketball player for the former USSR. I remember Pilic saying that he doesn`t want to work with Gulbis until he gets his act together.

Serbian and Croatian players are good friends. No sparks there. One of the moments to see during AO was Croatian supporters in their cheering for Novak against Federer. It`s good to see that sports come before politics. The way it shoild be!!!


Von Says:

Daniel & Zola:

“I remember that fact and wonder if anyone knows what happened and with who he fight with.”

Ancic had a fight with one of the Argentines. I think it was Chela. Ancic was ticked off dueing their match and they had an axchange by the umpire’s chair. I don’t know exactly how the problem started.


Daniel Says:

Thanks Von, I wouldn’t stop mentioning it until somebody manifested. At least I know I was not delusional!


Von Says:

Daniel:

“Thanks Von, I wouldn’t stop mentioning it until somebody manifested. At least I know I was not delusional!”

Delusional, I’ll say not, but maybe you could become that way if you read too many posts. :)


Fer Says:

Well, i think N.Djokovic won greatly the AO, he played fantastic, only lost 1 set.
I do not think that Djokovic is jelous of RF, everything is the press and some fans. Djokovic always spoken in a good way about RF an RN. People say that ND is arrogant, i do not think so, feel confidence and self estime is not arrogance, it is a right that everybody should feel.Djokovic reach the place Nª3 winnning with hard work, it was not a birthday present, just good work.


Skorocel Says:

For anyone interested in that “scuffling video” of Ancic, here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbEzF3y6bUk


Von Says:

Skorocel:

“For anyone interested in that “scuffling video” of Ancic ..”.

You are such a sweetheart, get it, a sweet heart! More like a mutual admiration society, don’t you think? Thanks. There’s mail waiting for you. I got yours.


Skorocel Says:

To Von:

Me as a sweetheart? Well, I’m honored :), but at the same time don’t quite understand that “mutual admiration society” thing… Can you please bring some light into this? You know, certain words (or phrases) from some fans (especially you) are simply too much for me – as a non-English speaker : ) I hope you don’t mind this :) Anyway, hope you liked the video!

P.S. Thanks for that email! There will be another carrier pigeon flying to your direction very shortly, so be ready!


Von Says:

Skorocel:

I meant a ‘sweet’ heart. Meaning a nice heart, as in a sweet person, or sweet spirit – that’s why I separated the two words, because you were helpful in obtaining that link. Mutual admiration for me -means that we mutually agree on admiring certain things, qualities. I’m being somewhat flippant. I hope this helps.

I have not had the time to view the video. Will do so soon. Be ready for another email – are you going to blast me? Oh my. a;0


Skorocel Says:

To Von:

Of course, I know what does “sweetheart” (or “sweet heart”) mean :) I just wasn’t sure about that MAS (mutual admiration society) thing, you know… Well, I still don’t quite get it :) What did you mean by saying “we mutually agree on admiring certain things, qualities.”? Does that mean you were thankful to me because I’ve posted that link? If so, then that’s normal… I would do the same if you were the one who posted that link!

P.S. What did you mean by saying “Be ready for another email – are you going to blast me? Oh my. a;0″? Do you think I’m going to blast you in that one? No, you don’t need to worry :) It’ll be about Shriekapova – as I’ve promised! You know, right now, I’m only midway through the “Super Bowl” thread, so there are still at least 300-400 comments for me to read before I can post any reasonable reply on what you and other fans posted here in the recent month or so :) Boy, that will take some time! But don’t worry, I keep track of my promises!

P.P.S. I still don’t get what does “flippant” mean :) Maybe you should reassess that compliment which you made about my English :)


Von Says:

Skorocel:

I’ll reply by my email, this way I can go into a lengthy explanation concerning my word meanings. My compliment about your English still stands. Be prepared for a “litany” as you mentioned. :)

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