Djokovic Stunned, Serena Escapes Again at French Open
by Sean Randall | May 30th, 2009, 5:26 pm
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Recall at the very start of the French Open, the entire focus was on just where Novak Djokovic would end up in the draw. Would he be in the Roger Federer half or the Rafael Nadal section? Well, a week into the second Major of the season, turns out his ultimate placement among the 128 was nothing more than a buzzkill, that after Djokovic was shocked earlier today by the unheralded Philipp Kohlschreiber 6-4, 6-4, 6-4 in the third round at Roland Garros.

Djokovic’s loss cleared the path for the upper bottom half quadrant where Juan Martin Del Potro and Jo-Wilfried Tsonga will lock up for a virtual spot in the semifinals. Kohlshreiber who is a decent foe, will have the luxury of now challenging Tommy Robredo with a quarterfinal berth on the line. Right now, my pick, based purely on energy and enthusiasm, would have to be Tsonga.

In the bottom quarter today, Roger Federer just keeps winning week one Grand Slam matches. Give the guy credit, he wins early and often at Slams. Although, again today he didn’t look terribly sharp but he did manage in the end. Meanwhile Andy Roddick continues to blister the field, albeit in his case a rather soft field. Roddick crushed Marc Gicquel giving in straights sending Andy into his first French Open first round in style, without the loss of a set. Unfortunately for the American his cush draw is about to come to a crashing end on Monday when he runs into my man Gael Monfils. The reckless Monfils has again conjured up the magic, mayhem and mind-boggling athleticism at his French Open. Was perhaps his injured knee was a charade, I don’t know. What I do know is that the Flying Frenchman is playing great tennis and I expect him to take out Roddick.

Tommy Haas is next for Federer and really I don’t envision the World No. 2 slipping up against the German, not with Djokovic now cleared from his path.

For tomorrow, Nadal will likely hammer Robin Soderling in straight sets. How Soderling has even reached the fourth round is a mystery, but I do hope the Swede can keep things close if not interesting (I doubt we’ll see him tugging on his shorts like he did at Wimbledon – it’s not the time nor the place for those antics!).

Another surprise fourth rounder is Victor Hanescu who hasn’t lost a set, but that’s about to end. I expect Fernando Gonzalez to take care of Hanescu in four. Bigger question for the Chilean, can Gonzo upset Nadal? Stay tuned.

Andy Murray and Marin Cilic meet in a battle on young bucks. Murray’s the pick but I think it could go five sets if Cilic is playing well.

And let’s not forget Fernando Verdasco. If only ‘Nando was in a section that didn’t include Nadal. If only… Well, for now he doesn’t have to worry about Rafa but he does have to worry about Nikolay Davydenko who is 4-1 career against the Spaniard. Ha. I’ll take Verdasco to get on the board again against Davy and do it in fairly routine fashion.

As for women, the drama, intrigue and the inability of the lower ranked players to deliver a knock-out punch continue. Today Maria Jose Martinez Sanchez had Serena Williams on the ropes and feeling ill, but the Spaniard couldn’t deliver. That said, props to Sam Stosur who took out my pick, Elena Dementieva, in three sets and to Sorana Cirstea, a late upset winner over Caroline Wozniacki.

As for the women’s final, with Elena out and Maria barely getting by, my pick is now Dinara Safina to beat Serena Williams in the title.

Back to Djokovic. With all the expectations from his stellar play this clay season I am really shocked to see him go down the way he did and this early. And even more worrisome for Djokovic is that he’s failed to reach the semifinals in three of his last four Grand Slams. Was it the pressure? The wear-and-tear of the clay season? Maybe just a bad day at the office? Or was his opponent that good? Only he knows for sure.


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225 Comments for Djokovic Stunned, Serena Escapes Again at French Open

NachoF Says:

“Though again today he didn’t look terribly sharp”

Completely disagree, I thought it was the sharpest we have seen from him in a long while.


tennis_fan Says:

Some thoughts on Djokovic:
(1) maybe expectations are a bit too high
(2) are there fitness issues once again?
(3) not everybody are as good as Nadal and Federer


steve Says:

Poor Novak.

Since Wimbledon 2004, Federer has reached the semifinals at every Grand Slam and reached all but three finals. That’s a level of consistency beyond anything that any player has ever accomplished. But because Federer makes it look so easy while he’s doing it, people now expect that every good player can do it. And that’s just not the case.

To be dominant in the age of Federer and Nadal, you have to be able to go deep into every Grand Slam, every time.

Even Nadal has only recently reached that kind of consistency, and he has still not managed the final of the US Open. And it’s difficult to believe he can keep up that level of intensity for as long as Federer has.

Djokovic and Murray are excellent players, but they are not at that level yet, and may never be. That’s not a knock on their skills–they will win several Grand Slams before they’re done–but not everyone can as consistent as Federer and Nadal. The fact is that even among people who have won multiple Grand Slams–which is already a very exclusive group–Federer and Nadal are very special.


Kimmi Says:

Zola, how is your bracket doing ?


Tennis Vagabond Says:

I agree with Steve’s comments 100%. People forget that before Federer, there was a LOT more variety in GS finals and semis.

That said, I just don’t get how Djoke was picked as a finalist or WINNER by so many! I think a lot of people make picks outside Fed or Nadal to seem clever, avoiding the obvious choices. But they’re obvious because they are so likely! I am sure most who picked Djoke to make the finals would not have put money behind that pick. Fed has made 3 straight French finals, and is the guy who just beat the clay monster to win the last pre-French title. How has Nole done at the last 4 slams??

Nole is awesome to watch when he’s on, but he’s one of the top-ten pack when he’s not, and that’s more often than not. Good enough to win a few matches, and maybe make the finals or win a Masters by getting hot when he needs to, but thats not good enough at a Slam.


john smith Says:

Federer didn’t look sharp? Must he win every set in every match to look sharp. The important thing is tha Federer is holding his resolve mentally even when things are not going well. Things should get interesting now in the second week. grat time to be a tennis fan


Beatriz Vasconcellos Says:

So Roger didn’t look sharp?
Well, I’d say he didn’t play his best, but frankly, he was playing very well.
We can’t forget that the wind was very strong today and the sun-shadow situation interfered.
Roger didn’t play that well in the first set, but credits to Mathieu, who was playing one of the best sets of his carreer.
Then, Roger had 6 unforced erros in two sets (second and third), hit 14 aces (not easy with all the wind), 59 winners and 29 unforced erros that gives a total of +30, which is EXCELENT!
We won 82% of the points when playing with the first service.
After all, you HAVE to agree he played at least well, right?
The only thing I think he could have done better was the break point percentage. He lost 11 breaks.
And hey, do you really think every top player has to win all sets??? C’mon guys, do you remember Guga? There were difficult matches in the very early rounds and he managed to win 3 titles. And I’m saying Guga just as an exemple but it is absolutely NORMAL.

I just hope Roger shut the critics up.


jane Says:

It’s true that what Federer and Nadal have been able to achieve consistency wise, and at the very echelon of the game, is special and we’re lucky to witness that.

I also agree with steve who makes sound comments thus: “Djokovic and Murray are excellent players, but they are not at that level yet, and may never be. That’s not a knock on their skills–they will win several Grand Slams before they’re done”

If Djoko and Murray can each win a few slams, maybe even five, that’s special too.

I also hope to see Roddick win at least one more slam before he’s done – and Tsonga too, just to see the celebrations after that win!


jane Says:

“And even more worrisome for Djokovic is that he’s failed to reach the semifinals in three of his last four Grand Slams.”

Yes, this is worrisome, considering he’d done so well in slams up to Wimbledon last year. I believe he still holds the record for the youngest player to reach the semis (or better) of every slam. So it’s surprising to see him go down so meekly, after nearly beating Rafa in Madrid. Sheesh. He’s a bit of an enigma sometimes.


NachoF Says:

Lets not take credit away from Kohlschreiber…. he played a great match.


Bojan Says:

I don’t think Novak played too bad today but some things weren’t that good. Kohlsh played on a level of a top10 player today, there’s no doubt. He kept Novak off-balance through the whole match and it worked. To be honest, until the last point of the match I thought Novak’s going to turn things around.
That 4-1 lead in the first set, and break points in three different games in 2nd set… Just too many missed opportunities. We’ll see what will happen. Novak seems disappointed but as far as I saw that press conference he wasn’t down. He seemed aware of the mistakes he made in that match and some jokes he made make it look like he’s going to be fine. Luckily, he’ll have an extra time to prepare for the grass season and enough to recover some extra points at Wimbledon or, who knows, maybe even in Halle :)


jane Says:

Hey Bojan. Yeah, I thought Djoko gave a great presser – showed a lot of maturity discussing what might’ve went wrong, while also totally giving Kohls his due.

Speaking of which, NachoF – I did give Kohls credit on the other thread; I agree that he was on form today, really meticulous shots and great serving.


Dave B Says:

Does anyone have any comments on the abysmal coverage of NBC and ESPN2? They both stink in my opinion.


vared Says:

I just don’t get how Djoke was picked as a finalist or WINNER by so many!”

Vagabond, the same way people actually picked Murray to win the AO, remember that one?

Here’s a reminder for all: Murray said he will be number one by the end of the year.;-)


Dan Martin Says:

Novak has missed the semis at 3 of 5 slams, but his results are not bad. 2008 Wimbledon was a loss to Safin who on a fast surface can upset anyone. 2008 U.S. Open he loses in 4 sets to Federer in the semis. No shame there. The quarterfinal loss to Roddick down under does not look bad on paper. Defaulting did garner some criticism. Still, Novak won, Dubai, was runner-up in Miami and Rome, won in Serbia and was a semifinalist in Madrid. I have a hard time not seeing him among the favorites at Wimbledon given the extra week to prepare and that the courts in London do not hold heat the way a hard court does. Novak is probably having the 4th or 5th best year to this point on tour and the better part of his year is ahead of him.


sar Says:

Sean, isn’t it Maximo Gonzalez playing not Fernando?


Giner Says:

Uh oh!


TD (Tam) Says:

apologies to the Dokovic fans here I am really shocked that he lost today! Now I suppose Roger has a clear path to the finals -yet again.

quote- “In the bottom quarter today, Roger Federer just keeps winning week one Grand Slam matches. Give the guy credit, he wins early and often at Slams. Meanwhile Andy Roddick continues to blister the field, albeit in his case a rather soft field.”

Sean it is so typical of you to mention Roddick’s “soft field” but not Federer’s. When was the last time Federer wasn’t gifted a cakewalk draw at a slam, in 2003? Roddick is supposed to be the worst thing ever on clay so his second week appearance is a far bigger achievement than Federer’s whom we all expected would be there.


NachoF Says:

TD(Tam)
Cakewalk??…. what else do you want?? Acasuso is a clay courter and PHM is also a very tough contender.. he got Djokovic on his side of the draw, he is facing possibly going against Roddick, Del Potro, Tsonga, Monfils…. I really dont understand what people want… face it, tougher matches are supposed to happen further in the tournaments.


jane Says:

TD (Tam),

And Von wherever you may be – congrats on Roddick success at RG on clay! Good for him as he already achieved his goal of reaching the 2nd week here and all else should be icing.


TD (Tam) Says:

Good evening jane I am so sorry about Novak’s loss. It feels good to see a familiar name(face) on here! I grow weary of tennisx’s continued bashing of Roddick and the Americans that is one reason why I do not post as much, I dont enjoy these boards as much lately.

Are you not also a murray fan? He should have a good run here methinks.

quote- “Was perhaps his injured knee was a charade, I don’t know. What I do know is that the Flying Frenchman is playing great tennis and I expect him to take out Roddick.”

No worries Sean, Von and I will know what excuse you’ll use should Roddick do the unthinkable and defeat Monfils on home clay. ;)


MMT Says:

“Djokovic’s loss cleared the path for the upper bottom half quadrant where Juan Martin Del Potro and Jo-Wilfried Tsonga will lock up for a virtual spot in the semifinals.”

and

“Sean it is so typical of you to mention Roddick’s “soft field” but not Federer’s.”

Doesn’t Kohlshreiber’s victory over Djokovic show you that these kinds of assumptions about how difficult is a player’s “draw” is ridiculous. Draws are only easy AFTER a player gets through it. A lot of people were anticipating a Djokovic/Federer semi-final, but look what happened today.

I think it’s incredibly insulting to both the presumed “weaker” players in the draw AND to the players who come through the draw, to say a draw is weak, and I, for one, will not be a part of that.,


margot Says:

steve: completely agree with your analysis. I personally think Murray will get to no 1 and win some slams, but Rafa and Roger are extra extra special. Their styles are so diffent as well, that’s a bonus.
vared: FYI Andy M did NOT say he’d be No1 by the end of the year. Call him what you will, but don’t call him stupid!


ertorque Says:

well,well we have 6 single backhanders in the last 16 and all of them are playing each other. Just remarkable coincidence!


Daniel Says:

Soderling is playing perfectly against Nadal, deep balls and forcing the backhand. And serving great obviously.

Let’s see if he can keep it together, he is leading 4-2 serve.


Kimmi Says:

Soldering 1st set. Who would have thought. Wow !!


Daniel Says:

Well, well, well less one record for Nadal book. Borg won 41 consecutives sets in Ronland Garros, Nadal had won 32 until today. Interesting!

Soderling will start serving the second set.
For the first time I saw Nadal being broken when he needed to force the opponent to serve the set. He is making unsual mistakes cause Sodering is punishing his backhand.


Dan Martin Says:

6-2 no less. It is 1/3 of what he needs, but wow!


TejuZ Says:

wow… Soderling becomes the 1st man after federer to take a set off nadal after 2 years at Roland garros… and that too in an emphatic fashion.

nadal not looking sharp here… and making way lot of unforced errors, as though the Federer bug bit him.

he’ll bouce back for sure.. probably that match against Soderling at wimbledon is still at the back of his mind.


TejuZ Says:

something is bothering Nadal in his mind i guess… he looks a bit flustered here. Did soderling say something to him on their way to the court?


TejuZ Says:

Nadal is being out-maneuvered on clay at the moment.


Kimmi Says:

Who would have thought, Soldering of all the people !!


Daniel Says:

Wow, guys I never see anyone play Nadal on clay the way Soderling is. His ball are heavy and deep, I mean less than one feet from the baseline. You can see that Rafa is nervous!


TejuZ Says:

its just the way Kohls was playing yest against Djok


Colin Says:

Murray leads Cilic by 2 sets to none. It’s a close match, but Murray has his nose in front.
As for the Nadal match, who’d have thought it? Well, I would, for one. I’ve been saying for some time that Nadal is perhaps in his last year at full throttle.


Colin Says:

Both the trainer and the doctor are attending to Cilic. Seems OK though. As I’ve said before, it’s extraordinary how many of Murray’s opponents get injured. Incidentally, of course, it emphasises Andy’s own fitness.


Daniel Says:

Soderling serve deserted him. He doesn’t put first serve in anymore and not even that hard at was in the first serve. Now he goes from 40-0 to break point. He is asking for it.


Sean Randall Says:

Stunner from Soderling. Stunner that Murray is wasting Cilic.


Kimmi Says:

Soderling is showing how to play nadal.


TejuZ Says:

wow… second set back on level terms..and again here… Nadal makes so many unforced errors… especially off his forehand


Dan Martin Says:

My dark horse for the semis or further Cilic is done. I will never make another prediction.


Daniel Says:

Soderling do the hardest work and misses crazy balls, he simply run out of patiance in the tiebreak.


TejuZ Says:

Poor tie-break by Soderling… momentum is with Nadal now. Am sure he will get an early break here in the third.


Dan Martin Says:

To re-emphasize Zola’s point playing a good match even a really good match is not enough against top players. Against #1 on his home court it takes even more still. Nevertheless, Soderling has done well over 2 sets even if it is 1 set all. The problem I and others are predicting is there are 2-3 more sets to go.


Skorocel Says:

Anyone watching a decent livestreaming? Phleaze!


margot Says:

Dan Martin: I did not respond to your prediction cos I just knew Andy M’s racquet would do the talking for me. What an impressive victory, how steady he looked.
Meanwhile Soderling is showing everyone how to play Nadal. he’s gonna lose, but wow! I think there’s a bit of needle between them, beeb commentators said as much.


Kimmi Says:

margot, why do you say he is going to lose. The match is not finished yet.


Dan Martin Says:

We still have a match – strange but true.


PietjeP Says:

Here is a good one:
http://app.nos.nl/tennis/

Soderling got a break. I still cannot see it happening in a million years that he will actually pull it off. But at least he is making Rafa earn it…..

Would be great if he could steal another set. Winning will be impossible…


TejuZ Says:

wow… soderling breaks Nadal in the 3rd… crisp hitting from soderling. His game is somewhat similar to Djoker.. his service action and his backhand. His height gives him a bit of an advantage to returns rafa’s bouncing forehand.


Dan Martin Says:

Margot I take my hat off to you. I think murray could beat Nadal if he plays along the lines of what Chang did to Bruguerra in the 1995 semis. Keeping the ball deep, returning well and driving shots when the opportunity is there seems to be the best blue print for beating Nadal. Not sure in clay over 3 out of 5 it works too often but Murray could be tricky. Soderling is going to have people taking notes as you point out.


Dan Martin Says:

My grammar and typos have to be excused as I am following the match while typing (no look touch typing was never my strength – home row keys …).


TejuZ Says:

Nadal loses his balance and fell to the floor… havent seen that before.


Kimmi Says:

WHAT !!! Still can’t believe.


Daniel Says:

Well, for the first time we’ll have to see Rafa play a five set match in RG, if it goes that far!


TejuZ Says:

Soderling wins the 3rd set… So i guess we’ll see Nadal stretched to a 5-setter for the 1st time at RG after all if hez to win this match. Dunno if Soderling can keep this level up for another set or two..unlike Acasuso.


zola Says:

Oh man!
what a match for Rafa!
He said in his blog that Soderling is a very dangerous player. Now I believe him!


TejuZ Says:

its very similar to their wimbledon encounter .. except there are no rain-breaks here.


TejuZ Says:

Well.. Nadal with a break in 4th… i dont think he’ll relinquish this break like in the 2nd set.


margot Says:

Kimmi: in spite of what’s in front of my eyes, can’t believe Rafa is gonna lose a 5 setter at RG, unless there’s something wrong with him.
Dan Martin: give Andy M a year and he’ll be unstoppable, that’s my prediction!


Colin Says:

I’m not actually watching this match – just keeping an eye on the score (I have to be careful with my download allowance) but the surprising thing is that Soderling hasn’t crumbled after taking the first set.
By the way, it looks as though Ivanovic is going out. Azarenka leads 6-2 and 4-1.
Dan, what is “touch typing”? Surely you don’t expect me to believe anyone can type without looking at the keyboard!


zola Says:

margot,
Rafa is not moving very well and Soderling is playing the match of his life.

I hope Rafa can pull this off. I don’t want him to lose to Soderling!


NachoF Says:

Soderling breaks back!


TejuZ Says:

oh no… that was a scorching game from Soderling to get the break back


YY Says:

That match in Rome was closer than the score suggested. Many of the games could have gone either way. Hope Nadal survives Soderling.


Daniel Says:

Rafa is not moving very well because Soderling ball is heavy and deep, and he is not that confident in the backhand side. Nadal is making a lot of errors trying to avoid trading backhand shots with Soderling who is executing his game plan amost perfectly, avoiding the forehand at al costs, pny to finish the points.


sumantri Says:

But the most important is this is the moment of the fall of the king clay, defeated by Soderling.


Skorocel Says:

“That match in Rome was closer than the score suggested. Many of the games could have gone either way.”

Agree. Nadal now leading 3-2 in the 4th…


fed is afraid Says:

no worries, rafa will win.


Dan Martin Says:

Margot I told a friend that I play tennis with Murray would be #1 at the end of 2009 after Qatar. Of course losing early Down Under put him in a point bind that I have taken a lot of heat over since. We shall see but the new Last King of Scotland would be fine by me.


jane Says:

margot – whoo hoo for Murray!

Looks like Rafa’s in a battle to stay alive here; Soderling: who’d've thunk it? Especially after their last match.


margot Says:

jane: whoohoo indeedy and for once no nail biting, tense moments or peeping between fingers! Andy was solid and raised his game at the right moments. Not sure it’ll be the same against Gonzo, but hey, who cares, enjoy the moment!
Did you read, Dan Martin predicts good times for Andy M too.
This is the way to beat Rafa, isn’t it? Why hasn’t anyone had this confidence b4?
Colin: do you really not have a telly?


jane Says:

margot, yeah I was impressed by Murray today; he was there the whole match, no lapses. I could definitely see him reaching number 1 one day, if not this year then maybe next. If Rafa goes out today, he’s got a shot at the title if he can continue like he did today. There’s real power in flying slightly under the radar!

I wonder, too, what’ll happen on the other side of the draw: Fed’s the obvious pick but Roddick/ Monfils or Tsonga could all be threats. Those two French guys can both be dangerous.


vared Says:

vared: FYI Andy M did NOT say he’d be No1 by the end of the year. Call him what you will, but don’t call him stupid!

Daily Herald and Times must be calling him stupid then, it has a big headline about that Margot. Sorry to inform you about that.
March 25, 2009

Andy Murray’s master plan to be No 1
“If I win 86 per cent of my service games throughout the year, I think I finish No 1 in the world.”
This was no throwaway remark. Murray believes it and so do a lot of folk. On present form, he is second only to Nadal
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/tennis/article5970223.ece


sar Says:

Who has a live stream for Nadal?


jane Says:

zola, it’s not over yet but Rafa needs to dig deep.


YY Says:

Looks like we r heading to another tie break in the 4th set.


margot Says:

vared: he said he could be, not he would be, huge difference.


NachoF Says:

here we go…


jane Says:

Soderling has the mini break in the tie break.


NachoF Says:

Is this really happening!?


YY Says:

sigh… nadal is down 2 mini breaks


jane Says:

5-1 Holy crow!


NachoF Says:

Apocalypse!


TejuZ Says:

wowowowowow … Nadal is beaten finally


YY Says:

Sigh… it’s over for Nadal. Now what would be worse for Federer? For both Djokovic AND Nadal to be knocked out and still not win the French Open?


Cindy_Brady Says:

UNBELIEVABLE!!!

SHOCK!!!


Kimmi Says:

HOLY HOLY, Sodelring, who would have thought ? RAFA at RG….


Daniel Says:

The unthinkable happen!!!

Imagine if Federer loses before the final, how ironic it will be?!

Now The number 1 race will be on fire in the end of the year, Rafa will lose 1820 pts with this lost, which will bring him close to 13000 pts. Him Fed and Murray will all hape possibilitys depend on how Murray and Fed will do in RG and Wimby.


YY Says:

For those of you who were so convinced that Nadal was invincible, here is evidence that anyone on a good day can take him out. It would be interesting to see if Federer can finally get his career slam.


sensationalsafin Says:

I’m trembling… May 31st… GREATEST DAY EVER!!!!!!!!!


Ryan Says:

hahahahaha……


jane Says:

Sad for Rafa. : ( zola, Ezorra, and other Nadal fans so sorry for that loss.

Sheesh – bit of a win for Soderling though. Wow. This time I am really gobsmacked. I mean Djoko has been know to have surprising losses, but not Rafa.


Ryan Says:

fed is afraid..come on out now u son of a b!@&h


NachoF Says:

I guess Nadal still has never been taken to 5 sets at Roland Garros :)


YY Says:

Yeah, I think Nadal will also lose points at Queens and Wimbledon. Let’s hope he proves us wrong though.


Kimmi Says:

YESSSSSSSSSSSSS ! What a day…the KING IS DEAD


Colin Says:

I hate to say I told you so, but – I told you so.


fed is afraid Says:

roger will not win the french open he will not be able to stand the pressure. murray will beat him or roddick.,


zola Says:

Well,
no need to say I am really upset now for Rafa’s loss.

But congratulations to Soderling. I don’t like the guy one bit and I would have preferred Rafa lose to Fed or Djoko. But he played well and stood his ground.

Hope Rafa can rest well and get ready for Wimbledon. This is a blow of course, but no one wins forever. At least he managed to break Borg and Evert’s records.


zola Says:

YY
I think Federer now has a very good chance to win this and he is smart enough to use it.


Cindy_Brady Says:

We didn’t get to see it “live” because of NBC…

That sucks a big lemon!!!


vared Says:

If Fed can’t win this now, he is worthless. Besides I think Fed would have an asterisk after it if he won since it was not a H2H with Nadal. Sort of like a garbageman like Sean always says Djoko is.


fed is afraid Says:

roger will choke cause of pressure, robin did what federer could never do, beat nadal at french


Ryan Says:

Borg is still the king of clay


TejuZ Says:

yeah.. with Nadal out as well as Djoko.. its a great chance for Fed and Murray to make the most of it. We cud have a new slam winner here too..but i dont think Fed will let this golden opportunity slip by.Anyway.. its still a tough tough road for both of them. And yeah.. with this loss, No 1 ranking is again up for grabs if Fed and Murray both reach finals.. and also do well at wimbledon.


Ryan Says:

The clay court king is dead!!!


TejuZ Says:

Sour grapes Vared ;-)


NachoF Says:

Federer was able to win Wimbledon and US Open 5 times in a row… Nadal only 4…. :) who is the GOAT?


zola Says:

Thanks Jane,

Rafa said a couple of times that the scoreline in Rome did not reflect the difficulty of the match. They also had a close one in Wimbledon 08.

well, a big hug for Rafa. He fought as much as he could but was overplayed by a better player on the day. It wasn’t meant for Rafa this year.


fed is afraid Says:

vared is correct if roger wins an asterisk will be after his name.


zola Says:

NachoF
try to be a good sport. no need to scold Rafa now that he is down.


jane Says:

Imagine all the players in the locker rooms; no doubt players like Tsonga, Monfils, Murray, Roddick, Verdasco, Gonza, Davy, and of course Federer are shocked but feeling rather hungry right about now.


Ryan Says:

Its not fed’s fault that ur man got his ass kicked by the nastiest and one of the most disliked players on tour.


Ryan Says:

Atleast fed lost his wimbledon crown to nadal in the final in near darkness in 9-7 in the fifth…which is legitimate…he didnt lose to some low ranked player in the fourth round in wimbledon in 4 sets.what a shame for the clay court king!!!


Colin Says:

Vared, for God’s sake stop it! This nonsense has been exploded long since. Murray half jokingly said that if he carried on playing as he had been at the time of the interview, he’s get to No 1. But he followed this by saying “but I probably won’t mainatin this standard.” Then an over-enthusiastic Scots journalist picked it up, inflated it into a silly headline, and all and sundry (you come under the heading of sundry!) believed it and repeated it. Just because a newspaper – any newspaper – picks up a story from another paper, you don’t have to believe it.


TejuZ Says:

So.. it still stands that this century a No 1 player hasnt won at Roland Garros, neither Fed when he was No 1 nor Nadal now. But No 2 has certainly won it a few times.. Ferrero, Nadal etc..so that shud be comforting for Fed.. Hope he uses this opportunity well.


zola Says:

OK,
I better leave and let Rafa bashers have their day here.

Jane
your sympathy now means even more.


Ryan Says:

An asterix should be on nadal’s wimbledon trophy as well coz the match was supposed to be stopped but it wasnt and they played in near darkness.


NachoF Says:

jane,
you are right,… I have much respect for Rafa…. he really is an awesome player …. but its guys like “fed is afraid” that provoke these comments.


Kimo Says:

Ryan said:

“fed is afraid..come on out now u son of a b!@&h”

LOOOOOOOOOOL

WOW, who would have thought it? Soderling of all people!!!! I mean, clay was like Kryptonite to him before this tournament!!!! He beats the King of Clay at RG? That’s impossible.

It’s not like Rafa had any say in it. The match was on Sederling’s Racquet from the get go. He was agreessive to the end, never lost his nerve.

Federer, history has opened its gate, you are the one that has to walk through it.


NachoF Says:

I mean zola,


Ryan Says:

Wen fed beat nadal convincingly in madrid that was the first step in dethroning the ex clay court king


vared Says:

Sort of like a garbageman like Sean always says Djoko is.

No, Tejuz. It’s not sour grapes. Sean always calls Djoko the garbageman if Djoko wins a title and someone knocked out Fed and Nadal in early rounds. How would this be different if Fed won?
Jane?


fed is afraid Says:

roger will blow this chance like he does everything else.


NachoF Says:

fed is afraid,
hey, at least Federer was able to get to the final when he lost his wimbledon crown :)


ckr Says:

Soderling is GOAT :)


TejuZ Says:

and Nadal’s semi-final streak of 5 ended today..


Kimo Says:

zola, my sympathies. I’m really sorry. I know you wanted Rafa to get five in a row and break Borg’s record, but alas, what goes around comes around.

I still can’t believe it!!!

Soderling????????


Ryan Says:

I was waiting for this day for a long time….i hope soderling apologizes to him after the match…..hahaha


NachoF Says:

Soderling vs Kohlschreiber final confirmed :)


Ryan Says:

Soderling for GOAT….


ckr Says:

It would have been embarassing to see someone lifting men’s trophy wearing “Pink”.


jane Says:

Rafa’s a great player and this was a bad day on the court for him. Even Fed has had bad days. They all do. Mind you huge kudos to Soderling for playing at a high level throughout the match and not giving an inch mentally.

It’s no doubt exciting for the prospects of the slam, and who can win now. That’s what I think is interesting. Not slamming Rafa.


YY Says:

don’t worry nadal fans, he will find a way to pick up again. nadal has always liked to be an underdog anyway and his humility is something which should be respected. let the nadal bashers gloat for all they like. they r no better than bullies who get a kick out of belittling others.


TejuZ Says:

Vared… agreed there will be an asterix, but it wont be a big one cuz Fed did beat Nadal this year the only time they played on clay. But i guess he will take it happily nonetheless.


margot Says:

OMG!! The unthinkable has happened. Yes Colin, it’s OK to say “I told you so.” The happiest man on the planet, next to Soderling, must be Roger Federer!
And why take anything away from S’s victory? some people are just mealy mouthed.
vared: please note what Colin said and leave us Murray fans alone!


NachoF Says:

Fed has not won… dont jinx it.


YY Says:

federer in the final isn’t a certainty either with the way he has been playing. hmmm surprise of the year may not be nadal losing but andy roddick making the finals of RG ;)


jane Says:

vared, it’s true that Sean is unfair to Djoko when he wins events that Fed and/or Rafa are knocked out of or withdraw from – like Rome 08, Masters Cup, Dubai.

However, I’d say Murray would have to go out here for Fed to be slammed into that category by Sean.

Personally I won’t go there, because then I’d be sinking to the same level.

I figure a player can only beat (or lose to) the player across the net. So a win is a win.


Kimo Says:

I was just thinking: Could it be that when Nadal transitioned from being a clay court specialist to an all-round player, did he lose some of his clay court prowess?

I still remember Nadal last year at the French. He had an aura of invincibility. In the final, the commentator said of him: “He’s unplayable at the moment.”

This year Nadal was not that Nadal. He lost his clay instincts. He never seemed as imposing. Before Nadal changed, he would never have won as much hard court master series 1000 events like he did in the span of the last 12 monthes, but it all came at a price. He loses his beloved RG crown.

I bet now he feels like Roger did after the winbledon final. I’m not being mocking him. Far from it. I respect him. But he has to realize that nothing comes for free. Karma is a bitch.

But he is not dead, no. Just like Fed was never dead, but I’m sorry to say this:

Just like since 2006 it’s been a downhill slide for Roger, I’m afraid Nadal’s best is behind him. He’ll still win slams, just like Roger will keep winning slams, but I doubt if he’ll get Roger’s 13, and it’s pretty much a done deal that he can’t be the GOAT.

So let’s see if Roger, the only man currently within reach of the GOAT label, will live up to his potential.


Ryan Says:

I guess karma does exist….how else do u think this happened.Someone who always stops federer from acheiving true greatness gets a taste of his own medicine and gets kicked out in his own backyard by mr.nobody.karma is a b!@%h…


Kimo Says:

ckr said:

“It would have been embarassing to see someone lifting men’s trophy wearing “Pink”.”

It’s funny you say that ckr. I was the first one to mock Nadal’s outfit.

When I saw pink I knew it wasn’t going to be Rafa’s year. He’s going soft.


ckr Says:

My final picks are Murray vs Tsonga. Fed will loose to Monfils. I welcome fresh breath of air in the Tennis world.


TejuZ Says:

Dunno abt Murray or fed… but one guy who is not taking this nice chance is Verdasco. He lost his 1st set to Davy.


NachoF Says:

at least tennis is interesting again…. Nadal winning absolutely everything was wearing out my interest in the sport.


St4r5 Says:

I always thought there was something wrong with the colour! Nadal’s lost was due to the colour! Pink is bad for him.


jane Says:

I think the French guys are dangerous. Federer will have to up his level and he should, given the opportunity to complete his set of slams. But, shockingly, it’s still only the R16~!


Kimo Says:

For those of you who are saying that there will always be an asterisk next to name of whoever wins RG this year (I hope it’s Fed, but he’s still four wins away):

WHO GIVES A RAT’S A$$? If Fed reachs the final it means he held up his part of the deal. It aint his fault Rafa didn’t.

I would have prefer it if Fed won RG against Rafa, but believe me, 20 years from now no one will give a damn. They’ll say he won RG. Period.

Don’t be sore losers. Rafa is better than that.


YY Says:

Kimo, as much a nadal fan i m, i do agree that he has already peaked. Now the next most eager thing to see is if federer can complete the career slam! if he wins RG, he will bring a lot of confidence into the grasscourt season and probably win Wimbledon too and break sampras’ GS record. hmm.. u think there would be added pressure on federer now? if he lost again to nadal in the final, at least he can say he lost to the king of clay, but if he loses the final or worse, does not make the final… what would that reveal about federer?


jane Says:

I agree that upsets can be exciting – even when Djoko lost yesterday I was looking at that side of the draw and thinking who now? But I feel that way about all upsets and surprises. So it was exciting when Fed lost Wimbie just how this is exciting. It just opens up the possibilities. How fun.


NachoF Says:

YY,
“but if he loses the final or worse, does not make the final… what would that reveal about federer?”
what does it reveal??… just that hes not invincible either.


mem Says:

this is probably a blessing in disguise. i know nadal must be disappointed, but relieved. i know i am! finally, we can end the constant, endless discussion, and tips on “how to beat nadal.” maybe, federer or murray or whomever can win RG without having to face rafa, and those who wanted rafa defeated so bably can celebrate and we can all move on with our lives! after the dust settles, maybe, sportwriters, commentators, coaches, fans, etc. can write and talk about how to beat someone else for a change. hats off to sodlering, he deserves the credit and a much-earned tribute to rafa for a great clay court run of 31 match at RG! all the best, rafa!


Kimo Says:

Sean Randall wrote:

“For tomorrow, Nadal will likely hammer Robin Soderling in straight sets.”

And we all agreed with him!!!! It seemed perfectly plausible!!!

If there is anyone out there who knew Soderling would win please tell me who u r. I’ll worship you till the day I die.


YY Says:

the spanish are having a bad french open this yr :P


St4r5 Says:

Fed will take on the French Open this year, with or without Nadal in the final. Signs of his rise is very clear, signs of his recovery is obvious, after this, he will go on to take Wimbledon and US Open. Nadal is history, his style of play has now eaten his body, every time Fed meets Nadal from now on Fed will win. When Nadal is solved, Djoker and Murray will also seem mediocre to Fed. It is hard to be like Fed, so consistent even when his confidence is a bit low. He is the ultimate power house of pure tennis talent.


vared Says:

1.Fed cannot hope to win this without an asterisk if Rafa is not across the net.2. Pressure on Fed has increased tenfold. Come on Davy.
QUESTION: Could Roddick beat Murray?


YY Says:

Kimo, i didn’t think he would win but i did think of him as a serious threat. that match in rome was a lot closer than the 6-1, 6-0 score suggested. many of the games could have gone to soderling then too but he didn’t have the luck. the thing with playing the top players is that u know they have weaknesses. everyone knows nadal’s weaknesses but none had been consistently able to execute their plan in a match. soderling was simply able to do that today. if u look at the stats, it suggests that most of the points were won and lost be soderling. he had a greater number of winners and ues… he knew he had to control the game and today he was able to execute it.


Kimo Says:

Please don’t jinx him ST4r5.

Last year when Rafa lost in Rome I thought: “Hey, maybe Roger can finally win it.” Next thing I knew, Roger lost to Stepanek.

So don’t jinx it man. Let’s just pray for out guy ;)


jane Says:

Andy Murray is 6-2 over Andy Roddick vared. And I agree that in a way the pressure has increased on Federer as he will be expected to win this now.


YY Says:

in one of the earlier threads i said that it is never a certainty anyone is going to win a title no matter what past history he/she has. my gut feel is that federer does not win the french open but i would be happy if he finally manages to complete the career slam.


Ryan Says:

To vared:

who cares if rafa is across the net….if he is not there then that means that he lost..plain and simple and its not like he retired with an injury…he just got outplayed and kicked out. Go live with an asterix up ur a@#….


Kimo Says:

Well, kudos to you YY. :)

I bet all of you guys playing brackets have been pretty upset with how the past two days went. lol


Kimo Says:

Ryan said:

“Go live with an asterix up ur a@#….”

You’re on fire today man. LOOOOOOOOOOOL


zola Says:

Rafa’s presser on rolandgarros radio:

http://www.rolandgarros.com/en_FR/index.html


Gordo Says:

Yesterday I had some time on my hand and I was curious after hearing so many times how Federer has a streak of 19 consecutive semi-final appearances at slams. 2009 Roland Garros will be his 20th, should he beat Haas and then the winner of Roddic/Monfils.

Of the 128 men in this years Roland Garros draw, only 10 have even played the 19 previous slams, with this being their 20th or more.

Of those, Davydenko has reached the semi-finals 3 times and Gonzalez actually won a semi-final, going on to lose the final of the Australian Open.

This makes that stat of Federer’s look even more impressive.

You would have to think that he is drooling right now. The career slam beckons, but the minefields along the way could come in the shape of the Tsonga/Del Potro winner.

Congratulations to Robin Soderling – he was aggressive and really – how do you win a set off of Nadal when the Spaniard is serving 92% on his first serve? But that was exactly what happened.

Trivia question I would love to know – when was the last time Rafa lost back to back tournaments on clay???


vared Says:

Ryan Says:
To vared:

who cares if rafa is across the net….if he is not there then that means that he lost..plain and simple and its not like he retired with an injury…he just got outplayed and kicked out. Go live with an asterix up ur a@#….

How come you don’t say that to Sean when he uses this type of logic? Hmmm?


jane Says:

Gordo, just to toot Djoko’s horn, he was in the semis of RG 07, Wimbledon 07, final of USO 07, won AO 08, and made semis of RG 08. So 5 semis in a row. And the youngest player ever to reach semis in all of them. : )


Gordo Says:

News item from Paris – Mirka has sent out for 4 larch beach towels. It seems that Federer can’t stop excessively drooling after hearing of Soderling’s win.

Incidentally – Federer straight setted Soderling in Madrid before he beat Rafa in the final. Can the man maybe get some props now?


jane Says:

Davydenko is pulverizing Verdasco. 62, 62 already.


Gordo Says:

Jane – lots have been in 5, 6, and second place is Lendl with 11. But I am talking consecutive – and that is 19 and counting with Fed. It just shows how health, fitness and consistancy are so important.


Ryan Says:

To Kimo : we gotta tag team and bash the anti fed punks in this forum. People always say that tennis-x is pro federer.If thats the case then get the f@#k out…thats goes out to dips@!ts like fed is afraid and vared.

Robin really got pissed off after that last match where he got whipped 6-0 6-1 or something like that.
He decided to teach nadal a lesson on fu@#!ng people up…


Gordo Says:

Ryan – the good news is that Fed is Afraid will vanish for a while. He will go running to his mommy now that Rafa has lost.

Incidentally, his mommy is also his aunt, so we should go easy on him (cue the banjo music).


vared Says:

Notice that Rafa is not crying at his loss like Fed did at Wimby.


Kimo Says:

hey Ryan slow down man, we don’t wanna get thrown out of here. lol


Ryan Says:

To jane : Even nalbandian and safin has reached all the semis of all the slams. That doesnt really mean anything at all.


jane Says:

Daniel said this a while back; but wouldn’t it be interesting if Fed won the French and then Rafa won the USO and then they’d BOTH complete Grand Slams *in the same year*???? Be kind of cool.

But as far as I am concerned, that means Wimbledon is up for grabs to Roddick, Murray or Djoko.


jane Says:

Ryan, it means something to me; it means they’re damn good players.


fed is afraid Says:

i haven’t left., sorry to disappoint you.


fed is afraid Says:

but you notice that roger didn’t beat nadal at the french it was someone else. robin did better than roger ever has in regards to nadal at the french. why is that?


Kimo Says:

vared said:

“Notice that Rafa is not crying at his loss like Fed did at Wimby.”

yeah, so? what’s you point? Pistol Pete cried sometimes too, that doesn’t make them any less great.


jane Says:

As far as I am concerned, everyone has a right to post here, no matter who they’re supporters of. Even trolls add comedic relief. So I don’t think anyone has to leave.


fed is afraid Says:

and i bet money roger will not win the french.


Kimo Says:

fed is afraid said:

“robin did better than roger ever has in regards to nadal at the french. why is that?”

you knowc what man? you’re right!!!! you just opened my eyes!!!

Soderling is the GOAT. How did I miss it?


Ryan Says:

“Notice that Rafa is not crying at his loss like Fed did at Wimby.”

Even fed didnt cry at wimby in public u fool….they showed mcenroe comforting him wen he was about to cry and then he left. Besides even nadal cried like a lil b@!%ch after wimbledon 2007. So the cut the whole nadal is a tough guy bulls@!t.
Plus he can cry a whole lot more now coz borg is still the king of clay and nadal is not better than borg.This defeat proves it.


fed is afraid Says:

no. roger blubbered like a fool in public at the Australian


Ryan Says:

Even if fed did beat nadal on clay fed is afraid will be like…..oh thats coz nadal’s underwear was tight that day coz I give him the wrong one or that he was tired coz there’s only a day’s rest between matches in slams or his injection on his backside from uncle toni was just water.Get outta here….


YY Says:

what’s wrong with crying when it shows how much tennis means to them?


Ryan Says:

“roger blubbered like a fool in public at the Australian ”

atleast its better than getting whipped in the fourth round as the defending champion by mr.nobody , no?


vared Says:

Sorry Ryan, anybody but Fed or Murray and I mean anybody. If you can’t accept it then leave


jane Says:

Bickering aside, does anybody else wonder if Soderling can keep up this form? I mean he showed his quality today. How far can he go? Will this be a huge boost to his confidence? I dunno. But it’s interesting to wonder.


vared Says:

I think if Davy wins today he has a chance against Soderling. Robin is on such a high from taking off Nadal that the air may come out of the balloon.


jane Says:

True, and Davy is underrated imo. He’s due for a big win.


Andrew Miller Says:

I know who SHOULD win now, but not who WILL win.

There are a lot of intangibles – their names are Tsonga, Monfils, and Murray.


Ryan Says:

To jane : remember some players are too excited after they do something great that their next match will be a wash out…so no I dont think soderling can go that far.


vared Says:

Jane a good example of this is Tipsy. He takes out a quality player and the next day number 100 will beat him. Funny.


zola Says:

There is a reason why a player is number 23 and another one is number one or two.

IF Soderling can maintain this level of play, he should at least get to the final.

This French Open troph is now Federer’s to lose.


jane Says:

Yeah…some players are giant killers and then they fade away. I guess that could happen to both Kohls and Soderling next round. I’ll be watching.

Andrew Miller – agree 100% about those “intangibles”.


vared Says:

WTA-Ana couldn’t take out Azarenka. I think Vika has a good chance to take out Safina IF she can keep her head. Another example of taking out a quality player in Ana and does the balloon deflate? I would like to see Vika and Maria here.


Ryan Says:

After last years french final everyone was laughing at fed and putting nadal on cloud no.9 expecting him to win the 10 french opens in a row. Most of them were like he is only 22…… imagine how many french opens he could win in the next 6 years.I would have to admit that the latter included myself too. How ironic, just a year later he gets a real beat down on his surface and he is only 23.Damn!!!


jane Says:

Azarenka vs. Maria would be an interesting match;there are definite similarities. Am just watching Sharapova now, she’s such a fighter, but I don’t think she’s got her groove back just yet. Getting blasted in this second set.


fed is afraid Says:

and fed will find a way to lose this tournament.


jane Says:

Ryan, I wouldn’t count Nadal out for winning more French Opens. He can come back next year and win. He’s still got the most outstanding record on clay along with Borg.


mem Says:

St4r5, you mentioned that nadal style has worn his body down, so, if that’s the case, there’s no need to feel threaten by him anymore, is there? roger has no reason not to win this year! things are looking good already. even if rafa were to fall to number two, it wouldn’t bother him a bit. matter of fact, i don’t rafa is the one dying over his lost today, he’s letting us to that. don’t worry, i don’t think nadal will slit his wrist or throat or anything like that! he knows that anything can happen on any given day by any given player. that’s tennis!


jane Says:

I kind of wonder if Nadal and Djoko aren’t having these lapses due to their jam packed and excellent clay seasons so far. They both kind of faded here.

They should learn from this and be rethinking their schedules for next year. I guess the Djokovic’s could technically move their tournament, but Barcelona won’t be moved.


Ryan Says:

I think he changed his game up a lot during the last year and that ruined wat he really had before…..an unbeatable style of clay court game.From now on he will be considered beatable on clay and players like djokovic n murray will take the mantle from here. He will be lucky if he wins another one.


Gordo Says:

Fed is Afraid -

If and I concede it is an “if” Federer does happen to win Roland Garros, will you be man enough to admit in print here you were wrong?

Or will you continue to just slam the man?


jane Says:

That’s true Ryan, and it might have something to do with his loss today. However he was pretty dominant on clay leading up to this event, even though he lost in Madrid. He won three titles and got to the semis of the other, so his style can’t be that bad for clay.

One of the reasons I mentioned Djoko’s semis or better results before, and Murray fits here too now, is that they already have games suited for all surfaces. So I do hope for good things for these two in the future.


jane Says:

Verdasco’s out too now.

Murray vs. Fed final? Tough to call. It could be Tsonga vs. Davy at this rate.

Or as NachoF mentioned on the other thread, maybe Kohls vs. Soderling in the final?


Ryan Says:

To jane: I guess i’m wrong and I would have to agree wit u…Djokovic showed that nadal’s clay court game does have holes in it even last year. He showed that last year in hamburg and this year in monte carlo.
He sort of opened up the possibilities for other players that this guy can be taken out. Plus nadal was making uncharacteristic errors this year which he didn’t make last year. Eventhough he won matches he was more like in the same level that fed was wen his dominance was coming to an end on hard courts….that is just winning the crucial points in matches and that type of dominance wont last for too long.


jane Says:

Yep I agree. There were moments last year when you could see Nadal could be beaten at clay – both matches at Hamburg and Fed at Monte Carlo too really could’ve won as he had leads in both sets I believe. The thing about dominance is that it always ends.


vared Says:

Jane and Ryan, Djoko showed Nadal’s holes just like last year at AO he showed Fed’s holes. Seems like Djoko exposes them and everyone else jumps on the wagon.

“just a year later he gets a real beat down on his surface and he is only 23

Yes, Ryan but a beatdown at 23 is a lot easier to overcome than a beatdown at 27 at Wimby. I mean you have more years to get more wins there.


jane Says:

vared, I hope Djoko can capitalize on that soon and win another slam or two.

What I found interesting about Djok’s win over Fed at the AO is that he did not target Fed’s backhand, like Nadal does, but he went after his forehand.


Ryan Says:

“I mean you have more years to get more wins there”

Just coz u have the years left to win doesnt mean u have to win. The king is dead. From next year onwards guys like djokovic and murray will take charge and nadal wont have any type of dominance on clay.


Ryan Says:

What I found interesting about Djok’s win over Fed at the AO is that he did not target Fed’s backhand, like Nadal does, but he went after his forehand

It was a fantastic match I have to admit.But novak’s serve helped him a lot especially in the crucial points and fed’s errors helped a lot as well. In the rallies I still say fed is the better shotmaker than djokovic on any court.


Al Says:

So let me get this straight. A 22 year old with 6 GS titles and has tied Federer with the same number of Masters titles, best years are behind him but Federer at 28 best years are in front of him because of Nadal losing one match at RG? Oh please!


Ryan Says:

First of all federer has more masters series shields than nadal.Didnt u hear bout fed winning madrid? Second of all not one person in this forum has said that fed’s best years are ahead of him. If ur pissed that nadal lost then deal with it.If nadal on clay is beatable then wat is he on other surfaces…very beatable and yes he wont dominate mens tennis anymore. He is done.


Tennisfan Says:

Federer exposed Rafa weakness on clay at Madrid .. Soderling took advantage of that. Nadal likes to stand right of centre on the court so he can run into and hit his forehand. If you play the ball right of him (unless you have lots of power on the ball) he hits it back hand crosscourt. So best to play alot of balls mid-right court (right back at him) so he has no angles to hit his forehand or back hand. When he pops the ball back short you step foreward and knock it down one of the two lines with power. Thats exactly how Fed beat him .. and the strategy Soderling employed. But you still have to execute though …but it is good to see that Nadal has his own issues. It is sort of disappointing to not be able to see if Federer couldn’t have used this strategy himself to wrest the crown from Nadal … but Wimbledon will be interesting too this year.


Al Says:

Ryan–I am not upset and yes a comment on here was saying that Nadal best years were behind him, that is what I am commenting on. I am not pissed about Nadal losing–that would be silly, disappointed yes, but he was not the player that I was rooting for, but that does not matter, I like him and a few other players.
Nadal and Federer are tied at 15.


Peka Says:

“fed is afraid Says:

no worries, rafa will win.”

This man is a real prophet :)

Bear one thing in mind, though… In the past 3 RG finals, Roger had two opponents against him – the best claycourt player ever (=Rafa Nadal) and THE HISTORY of THE GAME. The other opponent is still alive, and won’t let him breathe until the last point of the last match.

On the other hand, Rog must love the fact he can cross out the two toughest guys for him to play with on clay courts. I don’t think this puts him under a mental pressure. Just the opposite.

This RG is far from over, and no forecast can be made at all. But if you had to choose who to put your money on, I suppose you wouldn’t pick Soderling… or Kohlschreiber… or Monfils, Davidenko, Tsonga… no you would pick Roger.

However, we will wait another week to see.


Skorocel Says:

fed is afraid: “and fed will find a way to lose this tournament.”

LOL!


b07 Says:

looks like its time to eat your words, Sean; soderling dominated nadal.


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