Djokovic Fillets Fish; Roddick, Murray on Saturday at Wimbledon
by Staff | June 27th, 2009, 4:04 am
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The threat to No. 4 seed that was No. 28-seeded American Mardy Fish in the end wasn’t on Friday at Wimbledon, with the Serb rolling to a 6-4, 6-4, 6-4 win.


“He’s playing real well,” Fish said. “He’s a tough match-up for an attacking player. He’s one of the great defensive players out there. He even slides on the grass, open stance forehands and backhands. He gets a lot of balls back. When the grass is playing slow, he’s really tough.”

World No. 2 Roger Federer had a relatively easy time against No. 27 seed Philipp Kohlschreiber 6-3, 6-2, 6-7, 6-1. He is facing a meeting with No. 13 seed Robin Soderling, who handled the surprisingly-big-serving Nicolas Almagro 7-6, 6-4, 6-4. Another dangerous bump on Federer’s path will be No. 22 seed “Dr.” Ivo Karlovic, who out-served No. 9 Jo-Wilfried Tsonga 7-6, 6-7, 7-5, 7-6 to move into the fourth round.

“I thought the rhythm was very high,” said Federer of his match with Kohlschreiber. “We played a lot of tough points. I really thought from my side it was an excellent match.”

Spaniard Fernando “Hot Sauce” Verdasco upheld his No. 7 seeding with a 4-6, 6-1, 6-4, 7-6 win over No. 32 Al Montanes.

Marin Cilic and Tommy Haas ended the day tied 6-6 in the fifth set.

Saturday highlights at the All England Club include (6) Andy Roddick vs. (26) Jurgen Melzer, (3) Andy Murray vs. (30) Viktor Troicki, (12) Nikolay Davydenko vs. (20) Tomas Berdych, (11) Marin Cilic vs. (24) Tommy Haas to finish, (10) Fernando Gonzalez vs. Juan Carlos Ferrero, (29) Igor Andreev vs. Andreas Seppi to finish, Lleyton Hewitt vs. Philipp Petzschner, and (19) Stan Wawrinka vs. Jesse Levine.

Djokovic Fillets Fish; Roddick, Murray on Saturday at Wimbledon

The threat to No. 4 seed that was No. 28-seeded American Mardy Fish in the end wasn’t on Friday at Wimbledon, with the Serb rolling to a 6-4, 6-4, 6-4 win.

“He’s playing real well,” Fish said. “He’s a tough match-up for an attacking player. He’s one of the great defensive players out there. He even slides on the grass, open stance forehands and backhands. He gets a lot of balls back. When the grass is playing slow, he’s really tough.”

World No. 2 Roger Federer had a relatively easy time against No. 27 seed Philipp Kohlschreiber 6-3, 6-2, 6-7, 6-1. He is facing a meeting with No. 13 seed Robin Soderling, who handled the surprisingly-big-serving Nicolas Almagro 7-6, 6-4, 6-4. Another dangerous bump on Federer’s path will be No. 22 seed “Dr.” Ivo Karlovic, who out-served No. 9 Jo-Wilfried Tsonga 7-6, 6-7, 7-5, 7-6 to move into the fourth round.

“I thought the rhythm was very high,” said Federer of his match with Kohlschreiber. “We played a lot of tough points. I really thought from my side it was an excellent match.”

Spaniard Fernando “Hot Sauce” Verdasco upheld his No. 7 seeding with a 4-6, 6-1, 6-4, 7-6 win over No. 32 Al Montanes.

Marin Cilic and Tommy Haas ended the day tied 6-6 in the fifth set.

Saturday highlights at the All England Club include (6) Andy Roddick vs. (26) Jurgen Melzer, (3) Andy Murray vs. (30) Viktor Troicki, (12) Nikolay Davydenko vs. (20) Tomas Berdych, (11) Marin Cilic vs. (24) Tommy Haas to finish, (10) Fernando Gonzalez vs. Juan Carlos Ferrero, (29) Igor Andreev vs. Andreas Seppi to finish, Lleyton Hewitt vs. Philipp Petzschner, and (19) Stan Wawrinka vs. Jesse Levine.

TENNIS-X NEWS, NOTES, QUOTES AND BARBS

Nice ESPN feature on Andy Roddick Friday, makes you want to root for the kid to get to the final, or at least the semis againstthe other Andy…

Tommy Haas has lost 6 matches when leading 2-0 sets…

Victoria Azarenka and Ivo Karlovic have yet to have their service broken…

Only twice has a player served 46+ aces and won, and both happened at Wimbledon (46 Philippoussis d. Agassi 2003, 46 Karlovic d. Tsonga)…

Jesse Levine, Mardy Fish and Andy Roddick all went to Boca Prep…

Andy Roddick has won all eight matches against Jurgen Melzer…

The two times Andy Murray beta Victor Troicki he went on to win the tournament…

Roger Federer has won 68 of his last 69 matches on grass…

Marin Cilic has never come from two sets behind…

Ivo Karlovic has hit 102 aces in three matches…

Despite a bad stomach, Robin Soderling hammered Nicolas Almagro…

Soderling has lost all 10 matches to Federer…

Tommy Haas had his first round match suspended due to darkness…

Tomas Berdych has not had his serve broken…

Remember, no play Sunday…

Weather: Possible showers early in the day.


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189 Comments for Djokovic Fillets Fish; Roddick, Murray on Saturday at Wimbledon

Dave B Says:

I find ESPN’s coverage awful. It’s surprising that they have any time left to actually show the matches since there is so much filler: special features, commentator bloviation etc. I was so incensed yesterday I emailed them. They interrupted an exciting Hass/Cilic match with a special on volleying techniques (which had been shown before)with the always irritating Brad Gilbert and the less irritating Darren Cahill.


Jurasick Says:

I agree with Dave. What is the need to do these “specials” during an intense match? If they tried this in any other sport (like NFL or MLB) they would be kicked out.


tenisbebe Says:

C’mon Melanie!!! JJ is playing like crap & this is a great opportunity for the 17-yr old. You Go Girl!!


tenisbebe Says:

Woo hoo! Goin to a third. Let’s see if JJ calls the trainer yet again….


Scottish Says:

Dave B: American sports coverage is one of the worst in the world, simply because they don’t cover sports they cover Americans. Have you ever watched golf on a US channel? Ugh. Rarely do you get to see much golf. The Olympics were sickening. I only watch US sports coverage if I absolutely have to.


Von Says:

Ttenisbeb:

Woo hoo is right! Dare we ask of our Melanie to win? What happened to JJ? I walked away after the tie-break and when I returned I heard the commentators talking about time abuse and 13 minutes time out from JJ concerning dizziness? Oy, OY.


Von Says:

tenisbebe: Sorry, I really butchered your name.


Von Says:

Scottish: I think the TV networks are sending us a silent message, and that is, if we want to watch tennis, we need to pay to watch live streaming. If we don’t, then suffer, but do so in silence, because they don’t want to hear the complaints.


tenisbebe Says:

Von – she can do it I think because she is a fighter & of course JJ’s poor play today. I am off to yoga so please keep me posted and I will check back when I return. Thanks in advance!!


Scottish Says:

Could be Von, but US coverage of any sport has been poor for years. I even have US citizens here in Canada who watch non-US coverage if they want to see a sport covered well. But yeah there are a lot of sports going to paid streaming coverage.


Scottish Says:

Melanie playing great!! Berdych playing crazy good. Can he make it past Roddick and Murray?


Von Says:

tenisbebe: Enjoy the yoga! You’re one busy lady!

Yahoo!!!! Oudin is through to the round of 16, but she’s in one very, very tough section of the draw with Williams and Ivanovic and only a miracle can get her to the QFs. I hope Fernandez picks her for Fed Cup finals.
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Scottish: Berdych is good when he’s on, so it’s not a given for Roddick, and that’s if Andy beats Melzer. Of all people Roddick has to face in the round of 16, why did he have to face a hot Berdych.


Ty Says:

Matches look good today so far. Congrats to Haas and Berdych. Berdych looks amazing today, look out Roddick.


Green Balls Says:

Haas – U DA MAN!


Von Says:

Way to go Tommy! Hewitt’s smoking and looking good. This year’s wimby is similar to last year’s in some respects where a few of the older players are shining.

I expected Berdych to win as grass is Davydenko’s least favourite surface.

I’m hoping for Levine to win too, to make today a good day for the Americans.


jane Says:

I expected Berdych to win but he really blew Davy away. Congrats to Haas for winning in the marathon match; didn’t you predict that ending Ty? Or was it Shaky? Anyhow, someone got it right.


Tennisfan Says:

… Haas has been really coming on lately … he pushed Federer at the French and took Djok out convincingly at Halle. After all his injuries (and personal tragedy) of years gone by it’s great to see him playing so well. This guy would have been a real threat over the last decade if his career hadn’t been derailed so many times …
Djokovic has had an easy draw to date and hasn’t really been tested. A Haas-Djokovic matchup would be really interesting to see …


huh Says:

I picked Haas yesterday and he won. Great prediction ! ;) And I always knew
JJ’s a fluke. She was lucky to be no.1
among women, especially with the great sisters duo of Serena and Venus being present. But a non slam material like JJ deservesn’t glory.


Kimmi Says:

Yes Haas. love it.


tenisbebe Says:

Hey y’all – Woo hoo – Melanie won!! Good for her – looks like it was 6-2 3rd set. And hurrah for Tommy – so glad he’s playing well – the oldest player left in the draw, yes? Congrats to Hewitt, too. Whew, alot of exciting results. Berdych is always considered a dangerous opponent but is inconsistent. If he and Roddick meet, it will be worrisome for Andy. They are not showing Roddick’s match (he is playing right now, yes? Score anyone?


huh Says:

I used to be so irritated when people started talking of JJ as the female equivalent of Djokovic! It was frustratin for me coz from the day I saw him beatin Fed at 2007 Montreal, I knew he is a GS material, a great player who’d get his deserved GS glory.


jane Says:

tenisbebe, Roddick dropped the third set, but is up two. 4th set just started. BTW, Roddick and Berdych are 2-2 in their H2H.


vern Says:

What really annoys me is that NBC gets to show the Roddick match but they don’t show it live. Instead they are showing stuff no one watches and then they are going to show it at 3pm.


Kimmi Says:

Lisicki shining here at wimbles. Took out Kutzy..wow. The girl has a game.

And Melzer is trying to make a come back. Getting Interesting.


jane Says:

Kimmi, yeah, I commented on Lisicki on the women’s thread; I’ve read people murmuring about her for a while now, comparisons to Graf w.r.t. her forehand. But Kuz really didn’t find her game today either.


Shaky Says:

Haas 10-8 in the 5th huh? That was all me. :)

Anyone else watching Stan vs. Levine? Levine’s second service game in the third has been going on for roughly 15 minutes. I think Stan’s had 9 break points. Kind of neat.


tenisbebe Says:

Lisicki through. Good!

A Haas/Novak showdown would be delightful. I’ve been a Tommy fan for what seems like forever(even though he was a real stinker last year at Indy) – I remember when he was in the top five, making a run at the #1 spot (summer of 2002 I think) and then his parents were in that horrible motorcycle accident in FL which totally derailed him. Then the shoulder problems the following summer. The guy has had his share of obstacles to overcome.


Kimmi Says:

jane, I saw Lisicki when she won Chelston (sp), she has a big game. Did not see today match though. I hope she break thru here. She could if she beats a big name like a williams.


Von Says:

tenisbebe: I left you a post on Oudin’s win.

I’m hoping Jesse pulls through too. I thought NBC was going to show Roddick’s match live, but I see from some of the posts that his match is now on live and know some of the results. Darn NBC and why are they showing Andy’s match on delay?


tenisbebe Says:

Aha – so that’s why they’re not showing the Roddick match on ESPN. Well where will they show the Murray match I wonder? I do not want to watch that on streaming…


Von Says:

Tennisfan:

“Djokovic has had an easy draw to date and hasn’t really been tested. A Haas-Djokovic matchup would be really interesting to see …”

I agree. I’m looking forward to seeing the Haas/Djokovic match-up again. I’m very happy for Haas that he’s been making steady progress since his shoulder surgery, and showing some of his form similar to when he was a No. 2 player. Way to go Tommy! BTW, I answered your post on the other thread.


Von Says:

tenisbebe: Murray’s match will be shown on ESPN2, in about 30 minutes or thereabouts.


Kimmi Says:

Yeah Roddick ! Now lets ger ready with the Murray mania


Kimmi Says:

Oops…Yeah Roddick ! Now lets GET ready FOR the Murray mania


tenisbebe Says:

Von – re: oudin, the post from 10:11am? Saw it – thanks ever so much. Yes, she has her work cut out for her here on out. Will need to tighten up her game, cut down on the errors & play freely (like she has for the most part) to have a chance. She’s got nothing to lose so hopefully can make the most of this opportunity. Too bad she couldn’t have Safina’s draw starting Monday but them’s the breaks.

Jesse is imploding a bit and hitting more errors. Now that he’s entered into the 1000′s w/o having to qualify due to this performance perhaps I can check his game out live at Cincy. I’ll see when the draws out.


jane Says:

Tennisfan, imo, Fish is a worthy opponent: ranked 25 in the world, beat Fed last year and took a set off Nadal at USO. He was also in the quarters at Queens and Murray beat him by only 1 break per set. So anyhow, he was a test for Djok I think; some pundits even picked him to win. Fed faced his first test in Kohls, ranked 32, imo. But I agree that a Djokovic vs. Haas quarter final would be great! I hope it happens, but they both have one more round to get through.

Anyway, here comes Murray so am off to watch.


Von Says:

Yay, today’s a good day for the US. Fish and Blake beat Clement/Gicquel in doubles. Venus, Oudin and Roddick won also. C’mon Jesse, make it 5 US wins.


jane Says:

Good win for A-Rod – am really looking forward to Roddick vs. Berdych. It should be a great match! Roddick has the edge, as Tomas is weaker mentally, but Berdych has fire power.

Step vs. Hewitt should be interesting in contrasting styles, and I wonder how Soderling vs. Fed will turn out this time?


Tennisfan Says:

Jane … sorry, not a fan of the Fish. His serve is OK but his movement seems awkward. I don’t see much potential in his game … and frankly, he beat Federer when he was at the depths of his problems (mono and back issues). It is interesting that some of the older players on tour seem to have better stamina than the younger players. I don’t think the 5 game set Haas played will hurt him in a Djok matchup … but I wouldn’t say the same if Djok goes into that matchup having played a 5 set match recently.


jane Says:

Tennisfan, my point wasn’t whether Fish is a favorite of yours or not, but only that he was a “test.” He serves well and he attacks the net so he’s a good player to play on grass to gage where Djok’s game is at, return-wise, defense-wise.

As for a Haas vs. Djoko match up, no, I don’t think Haas will be at all troubled by having played a long match. I even think Haas may the edge if that match up comes to pass, depending on which Djok shows up, as Novak’s been inconsistent all season. Haas has an excellent game for grass, another v. aggressive serve and volley player – really he has a wonderful all-court game. But as I say, Djoko has to beat Sela and Haas Andreev first.


Von Says:

TennisFan: I like Fish, but then I like all of the US players. Talk about patriotism, that’s me. LOL. Fish is a very unpredictable player; he blows hot and cold. When he’s on, he’s good, and when he’s off, well, he’s really off. He was really off yesterday when he faced Djokovic making ridiculous errors, not due to being pressured by his opponent, but just being careless. Fish’s poor movement is due to his problematic knees, which is something that will become worse as he ages. Nowadays in tennis, we have to say, blessed is the man/woman who has healthy knees.


Pro_B Says:

Tennisbebe- TY on the response to my Karlovic query. Just saw it.


Kimmi Says:

Great 1st set from Murray. Good play.


jane Says:

Yes Kimmi, Murray is looking g-o-o-d. Troicki is not putting up much resistance, although he is trying. But Murray is comfortable out there.


tenisbebe Says:

Pro-B – you are most welcome.


Rab Says:

Murry is trying to catch Karlovic in the serving stats! Troicki having a bad serve day.

I though this would be a tough matchup but he is cruising towards the fourth round. Troicki cannot handle his spin variation or serve. Should be over fairly soon…


Rab Says:

…make that ace stats. Wawrinka should be his first real test.


Kimmi Says:

Murray serving is very good today, was very good serving during gulbis match too.

This is getting interesting, all top guys seem to have found their good form. We are looking for very interesting matches in the second week.


Tennis Freak Says:

Murray is playing against a very worthy opponent of the soooo deep field. He has the toughest draw, but he’s making it look easy. He’s sooo headed to win this title. The queen is readying a knighthood jacket(?) for him. What an honor to be a Brit athlete ! I think he’s the best player of the world all of a sudden, not just no. 3. He’ll be only 5 points behind Rafa after this. Another tournament, he’s the new number 1. Does not that make him the genuine best player of the world? Wow !

P.S. I am gonna celebrate his rise by switching to woman’s tennis.


Rab Says:

Troicki having a mental breakdown.
Murray = Santoro with attitude.


Kimmi Says:

Tennis Freak; LOL

If you concentrate and watch Murray without negative thought, you might see that this kid has a lot to be desired for. But then, that’s just me.

Gonzalez should be a very big test for Murray if he wins his match today. I woiuld like to see that rematch.


jane Says:

Rab – Murray has way more power than Santoro, but he has his ability to mix it up.

Tennis Freak = textbook sarcasm. Why do you dislike Murray’s game? Or is it his person? Just curious.


Rab Says:

Jane: Murray = Santoro with muscles


Kimmi Says:

Oops, Wawrinka should be Murray next opponent not gonzalez..I am getting ahead of myself here.


Ty Says:

If Ferrero wins that would mean Haas, Hewitt, and Ferrero all winning on the same day and I think that requires at least two back flips into the pool.

If only Safin would’ve showed up for his first round match he could have been there too.


Tennisfan Says:

I think Murray has potential … an interesting combination of shot making and defense …

Personally, I’m not sure why you think he’s had a tough draw … in fact its been a walk in the Park. I’ll reserve judgement ’till I see him play a wawrinka or better a gonzo. But we know he can play on grass after his match against Nadal last year.

I still don’t think Murray is going to take out a healthy or confident Federer no matter what the British press are feeding you :)


tenisbebe Says:

Tennis Freak Says: Murray is playing against a very worthy opponent…” Say what? He is? Strange – his stats don’t show it. Kendrick played better vs Murray than this.

“I think he’s the best player of the world all of a sudden, not just no. 3. He’ll be only 5 points behind Rafa after this. Another tournament, he’s the new number 1. Does not that make him the genuine best player of the world? Wow !”

Dude you are a freak. Murray still has not won a major yet and 3 Masters shields (Cincy, Madrid, Miami) all on HC – much too early to crown him.


Tennis Freak Says:

Sarcasm is mild; let’s call it snark-casm.


jane Says:

Wawa and Murray’s H2H is 4-3 for Murray, with Murray winning the last two. I think if Gonzalez gets through Murray could handle him on grass, but he would be a test.

We’ll see Tennisfan. I don’t read British Press much at all, although occasionally I do read the Times Online. I think Murray’s draw’s been as tough as Fed’s.

Ty – Good luck making the two back flips! I wish Safin were along for the ride too.


jane Says:

Gonza’s going to have to win the next two sets to make it through. Ferrero plays well on grass, but Murray just beat him easily at Queens.


Kimmi Says:

yeaah ! beutiful drop shot by Murray


Ty Says:

I’m for Ferrero about 85%, the 15% is only because I want Murray tested before the final and I don’t believe Ferrero has the mental fortitude to withstand the fans/occasion against Murray.

So is Roddick going to be on NBC or what? Or are they going to show the finish of Ferrero-Gonzo?


Tennis Freak Says:

Tenis babe,
Wait and read my couple more “shields.” Much too early to crown me “freak.” I’m only trying to live up to my name. I agree the same goes with the Fred Perry outfit. Murray is trying to live up to the outfit he’s wearing.

Jane,
I wish I had Scottish spouse.


Kimmi Says:

Game set match Murray. Great game. Bring on second week.


jane Says:

Tennis Freak,

Scottish spouses have their pluses and minuses. Ha ha. Anyhow, it means little to me. I’m Canadian. I like Murray’s game, regardless of his heritage. Likewise with Djokovic. I don’t really care that he’s Serbian; I just like his game.


Tennis Freak Says:

I seriously want to see Murray in the final. Good luck for his sound and safe journey to the final!


Kimmi Says:

I have not seen any of the berdych matches but boy how easy has he demolish his opponents.
I can’t wait to see how he plays roddick.

What was that announcement during Gonzalez/ferrero match, right in the middle of the game ?@$%??


Rab Says:

They might move the Gonzalez/ferrero match to centre court – under the roof!

Thats if Gonzalez takes it to a 5th set.


Ty Says:

Does NBC really think we give a **** about all that crap? Just show the damn match already with your exclusive 3 hour coverage window.


Ty Says:

That guy looks extremely uncomfortable. LIke his suit is too tight or something.


Kimmi Says:

Thanks Rab, I eventually heard the clarification from the commentators. Apparently there is lights under the roof too.


Tennis Freak Says:

This year’s Wimbledon has been all about the roof and Murray.
But are we going to be among the luckiest ones today to experience the first match, a few games at least, under the so-much publicized roof, a roof that has been talked as much as about Murray’s knighthood?
Come rain, come, take us there.


Ty Says:

Soo.. did they ever put Ferrero-gonzo under the roof? All we got is tape delayed Roddick.


Tennis Freak Says:

Not yet, Ty.


huh Says:

Roddick has such a tough draw! Facing Berdych’s not what everyone wants to happen to their faves, I guess. I hope Roddick handles Berdych with relative ease. Tomas
Is a helluva dangerous player btw !


Kimmi Says:

Jankovic after losing to American Oudin.

She was asked if she had been suffering from heat stroke or dehydration, Jankovic told reporters

“I don’t know. It’s some woman problems as well. It’s not easy being a woman, you know sometimes. All these things happen. What can I do?”

LOL LOL


Tennis Freak Says:

That was one of the craziest moments. JCF serves after winning the game. Every looked confused for a sec. And now the umpire is not ready. Gonzu adds fun.


Ty Says:

What happened TF?

And Kimmi: I’ve always wondered about how that affects women during sporting events. lol.


Tennis Freak Says:

huh,
You are absolutely right. You got eyes. Only Fed and Djoko’s sections have easier draws. For 2 Andys, the toughest draw ever.


tenisbebe Says:

Tennis Freak says: “Much too early to crown me “freak.”” Thought you had already crowned yourself that. :-)

You must be besieged by Murray Mania – not so here. Even if Roddick were to be in the final again, Nascar would probably get the lead story on the Sports pages.


huh Says:

It’s hilarious to see people actually believing that Fed lost Wim 08 over a bit of light (seriously you think so?!!!). Ha ha ha… it can’t get funnier than this. ;)


tenisbebe Says:

Ty – if you want to want the end of the Ferrero/ Gonzo match, you have to get online and stream it. Good match, on serve 4-4 in the 5th.


Kimmi Says:

Ty: I don’t know. I guess every woman feels different during those days, looks like Jankovic was caught today. But I hope she also gave credit to her opponent, because Oudin played tactically correct….have not ready her complete interview though.


Ty Says:

YES GO MOSQUITO!!!!


huh Says:

What Tennis freak? Fed’s draw is easy?!!! He IMO has the second toughest draw after Roddick. Whoever Fed’s faced seem to be playin well. Even G Lo is no slouch on grass as others think as he reached semi of Eastbourne 09, means he’d some grass form too.


Kimmi Says:

Yeah Ferrero, great win.

Now its getting easier and easier for Murray. Murray to reach the semi without losing a set.


Tennis Freak Says:

Sad to see Gonzu lose after that magnificent performance.
Unfortunately some cicada won (another Mr. Wait man).
That should make the top half draw still tougher. Everything is nicely shaping for Mr. Hype.


Rab Says:

Not too much mention of Simon so far.

He seems to be making his way quietly through the draw. Hope they put his next match on Centre court.

I can see him facing Murray in the Quarters.


Tennis Freak Says:

huh,
I was just messing with you. Never mind.


huh Says:

JJ’s proved that she is limited not only in her game but also in her wit and intellience. What a sick girl ! I remember how JJ hit back at Fed for his comments on her at AO 09 and thought she was right then but now I realise she deserved even worse treat.


tenisbebe Says:

huh says: Tomas (Berdych)Is a helluva dangerous player btw !

Yes, we are very aware. See my post 12:19pm.


tenisbebe Says:

I am not buying what JJ said in her presser re: woman’s problems affecting her loss to Oudin. If you have cramps, you don’t call a trainer.

As for her AO 09 remarks on Fed’s comments, she was perfectly entitled. Usually Fed uses more sense than this and in this case, he should have kept his mouth shut. It was a stupid blunder on his part knowing people would jump all over him. Oh well, xhe’s not perfect after all :-)


Mina Says:

JJ is just a drama queen – she’s always making excuses and talking about how she “felt like dying” or “calling the ambulance” every other match. It’s ridiculous.

And she’s used that “women’s problems” excuse before, too. I can’t remember specifically which tournament it was (I think it was AO 2008, but I’m not 100% sure), but I recall that it was a match that she actually won but “felt like passing out because of women’s problems”.


tenisbebe Says:

She’s becoming far worse than just a mere drama queen however. First, she changes her panties on court during a changeover, then she announces to the world that she’s got her period!!! For the love of God – has she lost all self respect? What next – I cannot imagine.


margot Says:

Agree with all above but hasn’t she got an amazing face, she’s just like a Modigliani painting.
Mr Terrible Tennis Manners won again and so did Mr Indominable Hewitt. Another satisfying day……
huh: thought you might be living in another country, why I asked, but also thought Chinese Authorities had clamped down on freedom of internet access. Your English is just WOW BTW!


tenisbebe Says:

Margot – how are you?

You crack me up – yes, to me, her face is a little like the Mona Lisa’s.

Who is Mr Terrible Tennis Manners? Haas?


margot Says:

tenisbebe: nice to see you back! Mr TTM is Andy Murray, he was getting much stick for his on court behaviour, totally unjustified in my opinion, also so many people on this blog seem to hate him without giving him any credit for his wonderful game, which I find difficult to understand….!! So I am taking the battle to the enemy, as it were!


Shaky Says:

I hate Murray because he’s a tall guy with a 2 handed backhand. Just looks wrong, imo.


tenisbebe Says:

Battle on girl!! He’s is playing exquisite tennis & has been a joy to watch – you must be very happy. Do you have a chance to attend any of the matches or even have a little tea party on Henman Hill (if it still called that by the locals)? I am ignorant as to how difficult it is to get a grounds pass for Wimby. Have of course heard all about the quene for Center Court seats.


margot Says:

Shaky: there you go, just what I mean….BTW johnny mac says it’s the best backhand in the business and who are we to argue?


Tennis Freak Says:

R – Restricted
Rated R for violence and gore. Language and thematic content unsuitable for under 18. Parents must accompany those minor readers.

Berdych Readies to Cannibalize Roddick.

Berdych: “We played, I think, three times already, and I beat him twice on the quite fast surfaces, one indoors and one in Tokyo. So you never know, but he always plays well here in Wimbledon, two times in the finals.
I think he likes the grass, as well. So we’ll see. But I think it’s a good chance for me [to de-feather him].”

If Berdych, as he says, really wants to butcher, de-feather and barbecue the turkey Roddick live on court, here is my little advice from a fellow butcher.
Cut his throat (barrage him with fast returns on the rise, run him from corner to corner, and smash him on the head). Customize a restraining cone clamped to a tall sawhorse with a trash barrel underneath to catch blood, feathers, etc. As soon as enough blood is spilled in a set or so, dip his head into boiling water (time for drop shots, wide angle passing shots, and lobs) and try plucking, with feet tied to sawhorse (head down). If plucking feather turns too messy, skin them all (back to killer forehand shots so that, horrified at the sight of his own mutilated parts scattered all over the court, the turkey will be fixated to unforced errors). Then, fridge the meat for a while before putting it on the grill. Cannibalistic barbecue is ready. Now shake hand with the umpire and start eating.

P.S. Intended as a freak show. Just wished it was Murray instead of Roddick.


Colin Says:

Margot, that’s perfect! It never struck me but she really does look like a Modigliani. I’m sure there’s a whole new game here. Instead of “Look-alikes”, it’s “whose paintings does the player resemble?”
On an Australian website I visit, there was the inevitable thread “Who’s the hottest girl player?”. I hate that term – it’s offensively sexist, but anyway I said that although she’s not coventionally pretty, Jankovic is sexy. The reponse was “Are you mad or drunk?”. But then, I think most of those “hottest player” threads are started by dumb adolescents. As for Jankovic, Jamie Murray was obviously attracted!


margot Says:

tenisbebe: hey! you’ve cheered me no end! Ta! Yes, it’s quite easy to get into the grounds, it requires a bit of queueing that’s all. My daughter and her friend used to regularly zip over there after school! This year I have tickets for a couple of days at end of year Masters so I shall have my picnic in Greenwich! BTW they are jokingly talking about renaming Henman Hill., Murray Mound!
Daniel, who regularly posts has got tickets for Monday Court 1, but paid a small fortune, I believe. Actually better to go first week for outside courts where you can see excellent matches. Thanx again for cheering words!


Shaky Says:

Margot I was only being halfways serious, greats like Connors and Courier had awesome 2 handed backhands (Nadal and Murray today)…

But honestly, I like the classic one hander. Ashe, Sampras, even Becker. Not all one handers look good: speaking of JMac, his backhand wasn’t exactly…inspirational.

A lot of you ladies dislike the grunting and yipping on the tour, I’m a guy who thinks the 2 handed backhand is kind of not masculine. Despite its advantages for disguise and control. Just an aesthetic preference, nothing personal.


tenisbebe Says:

Margot – I’ve noticed there are alot of new posters, many of whom are negative & nasty and post stupid, senseless remarks. Where is Polo, MMT, Voicemail, Grendel, etc when we need them to lift us out of this negative abyss. Hope this blog isn’t going to the dogs.

Murray plays Wawa next, yes? Should be no problem for him but I would like to see a competitive match.


margot Says:

Hi Colin: Good to chat. My,my there are some Murray haters here, very depressing but tenisbebe has cheered me. As for JJ you are obviously a man of excellent aesthetic taste! Will put my brain to thinking of other painterly players.


margot Says:

Shaky: OK! I’m probably over sensitive at mo. anyway. BTW ANdy does a very nice one handed at times…Don’t think his backhand is as beautiful as Gasquet’s but hey sure gets job done!


Tennis Freak Says:

tennisbebe,
Re: “new posters…are negative & nasty and post stupid, senseless remarks”
Apparently, that “some of whom” arrow-heads to me.
Is that your ideological position?
You sure sounded like one of those anti-new-poster nativists? B.t.w., are you also a member The Minuteman Project Inc. or Minuteman Civil Defense Corps or similar xenophobic, assimilationist, anti-immigration projects? Or, is it just convenient for you to be unthinking? Just curious.


tenisbebe Says:

TF – I named no names – read your posts and draw your own conclusions.


tenisbebe Says:

Margot – you are very welcome but it’s true – he’s playing great tennis. I understand he scouts his opponents, studying tapes, etc. I think that may be why he had more trouble than expected with Kendrick as Robert plays primarily on the challenger circuit in the US and there’s not alot of tape on him (his 5 setter vs Nadal @ Wimby but that was ’06). Victor started out well but Murray changed things up quickly & took him to the woodshed. A thinking player is Murray.

I have seen Daniel’s posts – Monday, what a great day to attend. Hope the action is worth the price.


TD (Tam) Says:

Help please Von or jane or can anybody please tell me where I can watch a video of the Roddick feature espn did? thank you.


jane Says:

tenisbebe, “Where is Polo, MMT, Voicemail, Grendel, etc when we need them” All these folks are still around, except for Grendel. Voicemale1 might be on hiatus with Nadal out? MMT always pops in. Polo I see less.

margot “a Modigliani”!! Precisely! Good eye. And Murray looks marvelous! Just marvelous.

Ty – Ferrero comes through – so… did you do the two back flips yet?


vared Says:

Dude you are a freak. Murray still has not won a major yet and 3 Masters shields (Cincy, Madrid, Miami) all on HC – much too early to crown him.

Tennisbebe you are absolutely correct.


vared Says:

Anyone notice how Oudin shouts come-on after EVERY POINT? Very annoying. I wonder if she can get out of this habit?


jane Says:

TD (Tam), I tried posting you but it disappeared. Anyhow, I checked youtube and ESPN’s site but could not find that Roddick feature. Maybe they’ll re-show it before or during his next match? Sorry I couldn’t be of more help. The ESPN site does have other videos featuring Andy; just put “Roddick” in the search bar.


Tennis Freak Says:

tennisbebe,
That particular post of yours was the most hateful post I have ever read on this site since Madrid Masters. You did not name names. You called names (“negative, nasty, stupid, senseless”). You are attacking “new posters” in general. And that is more offensive because your remark was directed not just at me but many other new posters.
Where did you get this privilege? From nativism.

That you started posting some time before we did gives you the right to call our posts “nasty, stupid, and senseless”?

How about some Fed-bashing Murray-loving old posters are unhappy, depressed, vengeful, skin-heads? How many slams does he have? Would that sound nice to you? I retract what I just said: I was just trying to give a sense of how your post offended many new posters (like me), most of whom are Fed followers.


Tennis Freak Says:

Vared,
Whatever I wrote was a sarcasm. And I called as such in the follow-up, even amplified with the term “snark-casm.”
Whoever you are, you don’t need to come after me to show your cheap heroism and earn a woman’s attention. That was a cheap shot, pal.


jane Says:

Someone mentioned Simon – I checked and Murray has a 3-1 advantage there, winning their 3 most recent matches. So he shouldn’t trouble Murray too much; he might be good for a set, but it’s tough to say. Simon is a scrappy player, doesn’t relent easily!

As for potential semis match ups, if Murray goes through:

vs. Roddick 6-2 Murray won the most recent 2.
vs. Berdych: 1-1 have not played since 2006.
vs. Hewitt: 1-0 have not played since 2006.
vs. Stepanek: 2-0 last match in 2007.


Tennis Freak Says:

Vared,
Sorry. I was too impulsive there and totally misunderstood you. I retract what I said.

I just did a quick search on this site and found out you don’t like either Fed or Murray. So that makes you my only half-rival and potential half-ally because I like Fed and I don’t like Murray (mostly because of his defensive style, added by media hype: listen to British commentators, you’ll throw up).


vared Says:

Whoever you are, you don’t need to come after me to show your cheap heroism and earn a woman’s attention. That was a cheap shot, pal.

Tennis Freak. Your ridiculous little opinion has been noted.


vared Says:

OK Tennis Freak. TRUCE


xmike Says:

hi everyone, just a an opinion on live stream, been using it for the first time this week, and thanks to it, for the first time in my my life I have been having the pleasure of watching wimbledon from the conforts of home. I cannot overenphazise how happy I am with the service: 6 matches to choose from (or 3, if you don’t count womens matches); no adverts or commercials, no match interrupting or changing to another match; good commentators, and apart for a few moments during one of Federer’s mathces, the streaming has been perfect, with tv like quality, I’m thinking of retiring the tv and getting a bigger pc screen…

I don’t think the tv showings are specially bad nowadys, in the 90s it was equally bad, at some point in the late 90s they got portuguese comentators on europort and i stopped watching sports all together (the tennis ones were particulary awful!!)but at least now you have a choice, for me the most important thing is the feeling that you have 100% control on what you are watching, no idiot can force me to wait for the cycling to end or watch michael jacksons funeral or whatever…

i was curious to know if anyone else has tried using it and what are your thaughts on it


xmike Says:

about the draws, Federer and Roddick have awful draws from now on, soderling and karlovic for F and Berdych and Hewitt for R, how can that compare with Murray, for ex, Wawrinka and Ferrero/Simon? Where are the big hitters there? Djokovic draw is to ridiculous even to mention, even if Haas goes through he’s not excatly banging serves at 220 kph…


FedRafaFan Says:

If Soderling was able to beat Nadal on clay at the French Open, he is certainly capable of beating Federer on grass at Wimbledon. Note that this is the same round (4th round) that the big upset happened. I’m sure Soderling was only half-joking when he said, “the next time we meet, no one beats me 11 times in a row”. I fully expect Federer to take care of business, but Soderling is a more dangerous player on grass than he is on clay. This will be the match of the day on Monday.


Tennis Freak Says:

The top 4 get the following opponents in their next 2 rounds, Rd. 16 and Quarter:

Fed: Soderling; Verdasco/ Ivo

Murray: Wawrinka; Simon/ JCF

Djok: Sela; Haas / Andreev

Roddick: Berdych; Hewitt / Stepanek

Who has the toughest opponents in the next 2 rounds? Fed because he’d trade his opponents with the two others’ any time. But I think, in the next round, Fed and Roddick’s opponents are about the same. Would Roddick take Soderling, instead? Tough to say. For Fed, it is about the same (10-0; 8-1). Would Fed and Roddick take Wawrinka? Absolutely. The same in the next round, Murray has the weakest opponent: Simon or JCF.

Let’s look at the semi match up,

Fed: Djoko or Haas

Murray: Roddick or Hewitt

Here too, Fed would be happy to trade his opponent with Murray’s.
In the final, Fed would just skin off Murray and shut up the Brit media for another year. Peace and order will return.


Von Says:

xmike: I agree with you, Federer and Roddick have the toughest opponents. For Roddick to draw Berdych as an R16 opponent is extremely tough, and Fed drawing Soderling, even though the H2H is in Fed’s favour is hungry, and will most probabaly be seeking revenge. I think sderling will not be choking this time.

Murray’s draw is very favorable setting him up to move through to the SFs without dropping a set.

The easiset draw went to Djokovic, even though he keeps playing it down, and operating on reverse psychology that he’s not expected to win. The media is buying into Djokovic’s words big time. It just goes to show how gullible the media is. LOL.
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TD: You can try espn360.com and NBCsports.com for a repeat broadcast of Andy’s match. NBC sports was horrible, in that they did a delayed broadcast commencing with the first set tied at 6-6. All I saw was the tiebreak in the first set.


Von Says:

vared: Oudin does not shout ‘come on’ after every point, but does it often on the big points. At least she’s not fist-pumping and screaming, but plays silently, with the exception of the come-on.


Von Says:

Mina; JJ got a medical time-out for ‘dizziness’ so I’m surprised to hear her talk of ‘women’s problems’ in her press conference. doles she not have any shame?sheesh. Now everyone in the tennis world is apprised of her pseudo delicate condition. This woman is pathetic and has made a comedy act of the WTA.


jane Says:

Tennis Freak,

I think Fed would NOT trade with Murray for potentially a Simon quarter final. Federer is 0-2 against Simon, whereas he’s 8-1 with Karlovic and 3-0 vs. Verdasco!

You have to remember that tennis is, in large part, about match ups. Fed doesn’t match up well with counter punchers and great defensive players like Murray, Simon or Nadal. However, Fed handles pace and power hitters, like Soderling, Verdasco,etc, well.

Similarly, Roddick is 0-2 versus Soderling whereas he’s 2-2 against Berdych, so no, I don’t think Roddick would like to switch next-round opponents with Federer.


jane Says:

When did Jankovic change her underwear on court!? And why on earth would she do this? A couple of people have mentioned this now; how strange. I did not see the Jankovic match today but I did see an interview with Oudin and my husband and I both thought she is quite grounded for 17. Also Lisicki is admirable, and she even wears sleeves.


Von Says:

tenisbebe: “She’s becoming far worse than just a mere drama queen however. First, she changes her panties on court during a changeover, then she announces to the world that she’s got her period!!! For the love of God – has she lost all self respect? What next – I cannot imagine.”

She’s out to be the focus of the media and she’ll get that attention any which way she can. There’s a huge need for attention.


Von Says:

Colin: “On an Australian website I visit, there was the inevitable thread “Who’s the hottest girl player?”. I hate that term – it’s offensively sexist, but anyway I said that although she’s not coventionally pretty, Jankovic is sexy. The reponse was “Are you mad or drunk?”. But then, I think most of those “hottest player” threads are started by dumb adolescents. As for Jankovic, Jamie Murray was obviously attracted!”

Don’t you think the women players are the ones responsible for the ‘hottest’ terminology? I mean what other reason is there for the skin show we see on display? I doubt spaghetti straps are comfortable because they’re always pulling up and adjusting something.


Tennis Freak Says:

Jane,
I have to admit there’s some truth in what you are saying (bad/ good match ups).

Still, looking at Simon’s performance since last July, anyone would prefer him, esp. in best of 5 format. And Simon’s 2 wins against Fed happened in the latter’s worst time, a time everyone was beating him in 3-set format. I may not have sounded here quite plausible, but an argument could be made.

There are several ways to play around these numbers, though, right?
This is grass, and this is Grand Slam and 5-setter. Only 1 player in the remaining has ever beaten Fed in best of 5, and that happens to be in his half, Djokovic.


jane Says:

True Tennis Freak; if we go by current form, maybe a match up between Fed and Simon wouldn’t be as straight-forward and Fed would turn around that H2H. Simon is a plucky competitor though; I do think he’d go the 5 sets, but whether or not he could beat Fed in that format on grass is questionable. Yet I think a player who plays longer points, runs Fed around more, stands a better chance than players like Soderling or Tsonga, who like to go for broke on a winner and eventually fall by making too many errors. I think Murray’s strategy of “not going for too much” is a smart way to play Roger.

And at least, much as you dislike Murray’s style, he is trying to do something and coming up with a strategy as opposed to just “trying his best” or whatever. He’s looking for ways to win against Fed, and that’s admirable given Fed’s accomplishments and stature. For that ambition, I admire Andy Murray and others.


Von Says:

margot: “Mr TTM is Andy Murray, he was getting much stick for his on court behaviour, totally unjustified in my opinion, also so many people on this blog seem to hate him without giving him any credit for his wonderful game, which I find difficult to understand….!! So I am taking the battle to the enemy, as it were!”

Don’t you think it would be best to let Murray’s tennis do the talking instead of battling the enemy? I’ve found that approach to be an exercise in futility and have given up on any type of defense for my faves. Anyway, it’s just a suggestion, so carry on as you deem fit.


vared Says:

Oudin does not shout ‘come on’ after every point, but does it often on the big points.

Von, I heard her doing the comeons on her winners and JJ’s errors. When she made the errors she was silent. Is it OK to fist pump if you are quiet?


vared Says:

Bad news

Rafael Nadal’s knee problem ‘may force him to end his career early’

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/jun/28/rafael-nadal-knee-injury-wimbledon


Tennis Freak Says:

Let’s say Murray has the master key (“not going for too much”) and he has used it a number of times, and each time it worked against Fed, but what happened to that strategy in the US Open, his supposedly best surface? Why would he not be able to use it in the biggest moment? Ok, it was his 1st Slam final, and he was under a lot of pressure, etc.
Is grass his best surface? Will he be under less pressure this time? Will his home meal and home court be enough? I can totally see your excitement and hope for a newbie’s break through. We all have opinions. In my opinion, there are more uncertainties surrounding Murray than certainties around Fed.
(Let me add one more to the list of my biases: I just cannot accept Murray as number 1, not now; I think there are a couple others worthier than him. This does not mean that the new number 1 should wait as long as Rafa did. Hell, no !).


Von Says:

vared: “Is it OK to fist pump if you are quiet?” Yes, why not, but if you’re making an argument for Ivanovic with her fist-pumps, then I’d have to tell you she does both on every point, plus her pirouette and she lets out that pig’s/horse’s (choose one) squeal. Thus, of the two, I’d take Oudin. I’m not trying to set up a big-time defense for Oudin, but I’m thinking that she’ll let go of the come-ons as her game improves and she becomes more confident and comfortable with her position on the Pro tour. She’s got a way to go, but I’m positive we’ll see a much more mature version pretty soon. On the other hand, i can’t see Ana letting go of her annoying habits, as they’ve now become ingrained into her game and routine.

I’ve been meaning to ask you, are you Serbian? I ask this question due to your undying support for JJ, Ana, and Djoko, plus your name.


jane Says:

Tennis Freak says “there are more uncertainties surrounding Murray than certainties around Fed.”

Ah, precisely; you’ve hit the nail on the head. I love uncertainties. If everything were certain, why watch? : )


Von Says:

vared: Thanks for keeping us apprised on Nadal’s conmdition. I wouldn’t place too much emphasis on that expert’s opinion though. I mean medical science has improved so much and continues to make startling discoveries daily. Thus, for him to place such finality on Nadal’s condition is a bit premature, IMO. Medical miracles happen all the time and diseases go into remission, hence, I’m hoping and thinking positive for Nadal and discounting that ‘expert’s’ opinion as pure speculation to claim some attention. sometimes, the experts annoy me with their gloom and doom diagnoses.


jane Says:

As for the USO, I think Murray’s loss and Fed’s win were down to a myriad of factors. 1. Murray’s semi with Rafa was tough and lasted two days. 2. It was Murray’s first slam final (much like Djoko lost in straights at the USO 2007 final, but don’t forget what then happened at the AO 2008 semi, the next time they met in a slam). 3. I don’t think Murray was serving then as well as he is now. 4. Fed was *relatively speaking* kind of desperate to win that USO title as, *by his standards*, he’d had a letdown of a year, so Fed was ready and hungry. By contrast, he’s just won the FO, the one title that had eluded him for years.

I guess we can speculate and speculate, but we still can’t even know what will happen on Monday. The final is a week away. There are still a number of matches for all the remaining 16 players. So much uncertainty, you gotta love it.


jane Says:

Looks like Federer and Murray are the Center Court mainstays this tournament, although Federer has yet to play a late match; all his matches have been scheduled first except for with G-Lo, which was second. I wonder if he requests this as he does seem to play early at a lot of the slams.


Tennis Freak Says:

That was good conversation, Jane.

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Alright, I need tea. Any tea connoisseur around here? Every one finds it weird that I drink tea, instead of sodas and alcoholic beverages, and don’t eat meat for both political and medical reasons.
Tea, I can talk almost as much as tennis. Let me know if anyone is curious about teas of the world.


Von Says:

TF: I’ve said you’re ‘hands off’ for me, but just this once I’ll deviate, that is if you’re will to discuss teas. I’m very well acquainted with different teas, more specifically, herbal teas, hence if you would like info, let me know.


tenisbebe Says:

Vared – re: the article. I was relieved to read that it was not Rafa’s coach or doctor making these assertions. I also am not going to put too much emphasis on this article. Sensationalism perhaps?


Von Says:

tenisbebe: I’d say someone trying to obtain some spotlight and probably gaining some bucks in the process.


Tennis Freak Says:

Von,
I only drink white, preferably silver needle. Any good brands or flavors would you recommend?
Testing your knowledge of tea, what does FTGFOP stand for (without googling up)?


tenisbebe Says:

Von says: “She’s (JJ) out to be the focus of the media and she’ll get that attention any which way she can. There’s a huge need for attention.”
Yes, because clearly her tennis is not getting her much attention as of late.
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Jane says: “When did Jankovic change her underwear on court!? And why on earth would she do this?”
I remember seeing it on the telly live when she did it but I was distracted, multitasking as usual, & for the life of me can’t recall which tourney much less what match it was. Von, do you recall? It was at the French, yes?


jane Says:

Tennis Freak, yes it was a good one. I like Rooibos tea!


jane Says:

tenisbebe, well that was a very strange move on JJ’s part no matter what, where, when or why!


tenisbebe Says:

Von Says: tenisbebe: I’d say someone trying to obtain some spotlight and probably gaining some bucks in the process.

AGREE – absolutely. That headline and subline had all the makings of a huge breaking story – but in the end just interviewing people in the sport who are speculating – no substance. These sort of sensational headlines really irk me.


tenisbebe Says:

Jane says: I like Rooibos tea!

I also like Rooibos tea – also it makes great iced tea, a nice spicy kick to it.


Tennis Freak Says:

Green Rooibos is really good, a lot better than red. It’s naturally decaffeinated, not fermented or oxidized.


tenisbebe Says:

I haven’t seen the green stuff. Ha, ha. That reminds me of that Kevin Kline line from A Fish called Wanda when he is eating the fishtank fish, “Don’t eat the green ones”.


tenisbebe Says:

Jane – Yes, as I said I was distracted and can’t recall the circumstances however I can’t think of any that would adequately explain this behavior. Bizarre.


Von Says:

Tennis Freak: I see you’ve gotten a good response on your tea questions.

‘FTGFOP’: I don’t know the acronym, and its meaning. Two letters stand out ‘OP’, is it Orange Pekoe. Here’s my translation: FTGF+OP: For that good feeling, orange pekoe. LOL. I’m only guessing by adding some humor. I’d say it’s a grade? Sorry I don’t really know, as I’m not into acronyms.

Whte teas are the best and least adulterated, so your choice is very good. I’m more into herbal teas and their medicinal values. Their curative powers can be a boon to a sick/disease ridden person. I can discuss this type of tea topic which is very intriguing to me and one which I’ve studied for many years. It wasn’t until I had typed my reply that I realized you were talking of ‘Tea brands’ and not herbal teas per se.
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tenisbebe: The JJ panties changing has been discussed many times in the past here on this site, and as recent as a few days ago. I also posted a YouTube video in the past and it can be found there by doing a search.


Tennis Freak Says:

Yo Wanda,
The green is not about the color. It is about the non/processing. You skip fermentation and oxidation, you call it, green. You ferment it and oxidize it, you call it red. Burke, the company that held its patent for a long time, sold mostly processed for a wide market, some unprocessed green for initiated, upscale market.


Tennis Freak Says:

Von,
You were close. And it’s a grade, the highest in black (Lipton may confuse you with its pyramid black pearl: a fake FTGFOP). There is a joke about the acronym: Far Too Good For Ordinary People. You almost nailed it.


Tennis Freak Says:

Anybody knows if the queen is going to be there to rally the crowd behind their hero and make sure no one commits treason? If it is their hero vs. Fed, what would be the crowd ratio? Is Fed going to have any?


tenisbebe Says:

Von – re: JJ. OK sorry don’t want to rehash threads that have played over and over.

Back to Oudin (my post 1:02pm) I believe she plays Radwanska next who didn’t play so great today (her serving looked horrendous) so Melanie may have a good shot. Have to check the match stats again. Amelie is still in (yeah) and plays Safina. Hopefully she will keep telling herself that she has won this thing and Dinera hates the grass. Go Amelie!!

OK gang, I’m off to bed as I have a match tomorrow & really want to win it. It’s going to be another hot & humid day so plz cross your fingers for me. Night…


tenisbebe Says:

“Yo Wanda,
The green is not about the color. It is about the non/processing. You skip fermentation and oxidation, you call it, green.” Gotcha but I meant I hadn’t seen it on the shelves for purchase (not the color) only the red stuff. I will look for it. Thanks.


vared Says:

I’ve been meaning to ask you, are you Serbian? I ask this question due to your undying support for JJ, Ana, and Djoko, plus your name.
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No, I am not but I like the serbian players and lots of Russkies as well as some Americans and others. As far as I know my surname Vared is not serbian either. Why, does Vared sound like a Serbian name?


Von Says:

Tenisbebe: I’m loathe to discuss her, even though I do at times, because I don’t want someone to call it being ‘catty’ and/or ‘bashing’, and it’s why I’m reluctant to re-hash the video. The tide turns very quickly. Hope you understand.

Yes, Radwanska hasn’t looked very sharp so Mel has a good chance. I love Amelie and always want to see her do well. I’m sorry I don’t like Safina at all, which is strange considering how much I like her brother.

IMO, Roddick didn’t play very well against Melzer today. In the past, Roddick has been able to put away Melzer quite easily. It could be one of two things, and since I haven’t seen them play in a while, I’m only guessing: (1) Melzer has fine-tuned his game and is serving stronger, and (2) today was an off-day for Roddick, but he still made it through. If it’s (2), then I hope he has a good day on Monday, or else it’ll be home USA.
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vared: I thought that ‘vared’ was your first name. Sorry, my bad.
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TF: Glad to know I wasn’t so far off. I think it’s necessary to be careful when buying teas, especially the supermarket ‘Celestial Seasons’, and ‘Twinings” since they’re a far cry from the real McCoy, but that’s just my opinion. enjoy your tea. I’ll have my ginger/dandelinon (witches brew) in an hour’s time.


Von Says:

tenisbebe: BTW, good luck tomorrow and win will ya. Goodnight and pleasant dreams.


vared Says:

I’m sorry I don’t like Safina at all, which is strange considering how much I like her brother.

Von, she’s one of my four dislikes.

I thought that ‘vared’ was your first name
Guess I better change it soon now that I’ve said it.

Jankovic changes tennis panties. Someone wrote:
Those aren’t panties, they’re bloomers, the under garment to women’s tennis skirts. They look more like granny-pannys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHW5mtb1Qqk

Jankovic explains to reporter why she did it. Someone translated it in the comments on this video.She said that it was cold out there and she wore longer panties because Navratilova told her that she can do so. However, umpire told her that she must change her panties but she can’t go back to locker room.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXGN0ObeoyM&NR=1


margot Says:

von: re your post of 9.49. At one stage Murray was getting so much unjustified bashing that I thought why bother to read this blog and contribute? However, I really enjoy reading what the majority of posters write and some, MMT for example are so very knowledgeable it’s a learning curve for me. Moreover, like your good self, I am a fighter, not a quitter so I decided to take “the battle to the enemy.” Interesting, as you said your blogs are not like your real self, it’s the same with me. In real life I am a tough cookie with a tough job. In this blog, since it’s words we only have, I’ve tried to be reasonable, at all times. Don’t say I’ve always succeeded! Thus, for the time being anyway, I picked up my “flaming sword.” See how it goes.


Kimo Says:

There’s one thing that you guys fail to see regarding Murray’s matches. In all three matches his opposition was so weak that he mainly relied on slicing the ball back (off both sides) and force the opposition to come up with their own pace, and as you would expect, they make an error.

While using that tactic will win you matches pretty easily against a Kendrick and a Troicki, it will not work against Fed. Players Murray have faced so far are so limited, Fed on the other hand can do anything with a tennis ball, not to mention that his movement on grass is better than anyone.

The big question is whether Murray will be able to change his game in order to beat Fed (if he does in fact reach the final, I think there’s a 50% chance that he will), because I think Murray is playing extremely passively and anyone can overpower him at the moment. Also, Murray’s 2nd serve is extremely weak and if his 1st serve deserts him he’ll be in way too much trouble.

There are just too many ifs and buts when it comes to Murray’s game on grass, but not that many with Fed (if there are any at all), and that’s why even if they do meet I think Fed will hammer him. I know you all like to talk about their H2H, but all their meetings were on dard courts and the last four matches were played during Fed’s longest slump yet in his career.

Fed’s oppostion was more formidable than Murray’s, but they were exactly the kind of guys you’d want to play in ur first week: not too good but not too bad. Fed’s draw is harder then Murray’s, he has to go through Soderling, who’s playing his best tennis ever and took Rafa to five sets in 2007, and then Karlovic who’s the most frustrating and boring player ever.

But still, I think Fed’s chances of taking this one are higher then any of his recent slams. I’d say he’s got about an 80% chance of winning his 15th slam.


Von Says:

margot: In real life I’m the opposite of you.

I understand and empathize with your feelings and have gotten turned off trying to fight the insults and unjustified comments many times. As you know, fighting back and/or standing up for your beliefs can earn you names, e.g., I’m perceived to be a ‘bully’ because I don’t kowtow, and refuse to back down. I know I’m not a bully, and I’m not going to try to change anyone’s opinion. If and when , that time comes, remember who you are, and that is, you’re a tough cookie and not a fighter. I’m told everyday that I’m ‘sweet’ and a ‘sweetheart’ and that’s what I try to remember when the name-calling begins. You can’t please everyone, so why not please yourself and fight for your cause. Remember: Might is right, and the weakest goes to the wall”, and we don’t want to see you plastered to the wall, and/or become part of it now, do we?. LOL.

Written expressions are dependent on the comprehension and the mindset of the reader, so therein lies the problem. Keep fighting the good fight until you’ve gotten it out of your system. You’ll eventually get to a point where the opinions don’t matter, and then you’ll know you have arrived. However, you need to bear in mind that you’ll never convince those whose thought processes and/or opinions differ from yours. The most difficult task is trying to reverse first impressions. I hope this is of some consolation to you, from one who’s traveled down your path and is still doing so. Now stick around will ya, and don’t let me hear of anymore talk of your wanting to quit posting — I’d miss you something awful!

PS: I see the ‘flaming’ sword, and I see the flaming eyes. Maybe you could try to locate Excalibur. I don’t know if you know this, but historically, it had belonged to Mary Queen of Scots, the last legitimate Catholic heir to the English throne. And, Murray being a Scot, I think it would be the perfect addition to your arsenal of defense.


Von Says:

correction: you’re a tough cookie and not a fighter s/b you’re a tough cookie AND a fighter.


margot Says:

von: lovely post lovely support, thanx. Also tenisbebe, jane gr8! This why I stick around!


margot Says:

kimo: your comments are fine and I would agree that Andy’s matches this week have been easy and that’s good cos he conserves his energy to go into the second week and bad cos he maybe gets complacent. As a matter of fact I have NEVER said he will beat TMF at Wimbles, pleae don’t confuse the views of the British media, for which I am NOT responsible, with mine. It’s one match at a time for me and fingers crossed. And OF COURSE his second serve is pants and makes him horribly vulnerable, don’t his fans just know it, we are not blinkered.BTW when Wimbles is over, the media attention will move from him and focus on the Ashes, it what they do.
BTW folks, have just seen line up for Court 1 and Daniel’s in for a treat! Is he American cos he’s got Venus, Verdasco and RODDICK!!
And please, please may Verdasco’s forehand be working and he takes out Karlovic, just imagine if he won Wimbles….!


TejuZ Says:

If Karlovic is serving like he is… i dont see anybody taking him out, unless he makes mistakes in the tie-breakers. His match against tsonga, Tsonga looked so frustrated not able to even reach his racket to the karlovic serves. It would be difficlt for anybody including Fed or Murray to stop him… who knows he could be the surprise packet for this years wimbledon. Fed has beaten karlovic once at wimbledon in 2004, but Karlovic was quite young then.

Well… my view, fed and roddick(previously Nadal’s) have the more tougher grass-court players.

Berdych, i like his chances against Roddick and Hewitt. Again, u never know with him, he is head-case.


scineram Says:

“This is grass, and this is Grand Slam and 5-setter. Only 1 player in the remaining has ever beaten Fed in best of 5, and that happens to be in his half, Djokovic.”

And Hewitt. And Ferrero.


Tennis Freak Says:

scineram,
Good catch. But that was a long time ago, before Fed’s rise to the top.


tenisbebe Says:

Von – re: JJ. I hear ya & I’m with ya. Re: Roddick, I can’t recall having seen their other matches so I will defer to your assessment. As I said before and as you well know, Berdych is a dangerous character but is streaky. Hopefully Andy will put him away on Monday.

In my perfect world, Roddick would win Wimby (2nd choice Murray), and Rafa the USO. That way Roger has his career GS & 14th, Roddick finally gets the Wimby trophy, and Rafa gets his career slam. But things seldom happen as we’d like :-)


jane Says:

tenisbebe, I like your choices /wishes too. My third choice then would be Djoko. : ) Andy M needs a first slam to help solidify his place at the top. Djoko, Roddick, Rafa, Fed have all won one, so Andy M needs to get in with that group.

I think if someone takes out Fed, and Roddick gets to the final, forget about it. Andy R. will not let a chance like that pass him by. If Andy has to face Fed, there is less chance he’d pull it off unfortunately.

And like you, I’d love to see Rafa win the USO and get the career slam; especially after these tough emotional and physical difficulties he’s facing, it’d be particularly rewarding.


Tennis Freak Says:

Jane,
I thought you were a “Djoker 1st” supporter. Now, Murray over Djoker? Poor Djoker ! What if they meet in the final here or at another Slam, say USO? Or, is it because Murray is in better position right now, being in the other half, and a stronger player to challenge Fed, etc? Definitely your support for him cannot be simply because he is slammless and “needs” one.


tenisbebe Says:

Jane – Yes, Djoko is due for another slam soon & I hope he gets it. And of course Murray needs & deserves to be included in that group & a slam would do it (my 2nd choice for Wimby). But with only 2 slams remaining in the year, I had to place my bets, so to speak. Jane, Djoko is looking good thus far & has a real shot at the title too. Maybe this flying under the radar is good for him despite how much he craves the limelight. What do you think? Of course as you know, every top player recognize that with Rafa out, a great opportunity has presented itself for them to go deep in the tournament and Djoko’s capable of doing it too. He’s beat Fed in a slam after all and didn’t he win Queen’s in ’07?

“I think if someone takes out Fed, and Roddick gets to the final, forget about it. Andy R. will not let a chance like that pass him by. If Andy has to face Fed, there is less chance he’d pull it off unfortunately.”

It happened in Paris -Rafa losing in the 4th round- so anything is possible! I really want Andy R. to win another slam – he has worked so very hard and Wimby would make all of those past disappointments disappear. I’m realistic but can still hope. And Fed will have the baby to substitute for the USO trophy. As soon as it was announced Mirka was expecting, I felt sure he would skip Cincy & possibly Montreal. Now that it’s slipped that Aug 10th is her due date, it’s all but certain. Bummer, I love seeing him in Cincy.


huh Says:

I’m really sad for cilic and I wish him all the best for US Open. He’s such a good player with a great game,which is to my liking. Happy for Haas no doubt but pretty sad for Cilic too. :( :( :( Please don’t forget how much he entertained us at WIM 09.


tenisbebe Says:

Huh – so you are a Cilic “fan”? Otherwise why would we forget? These people have elephant memories when it comes to great matches. I have enjoyed watching Cilic trying to make his way into the top of the game since the start of this year (Dubai vs Djoko, etc). Seems like a good kid but would not consider myself a “fan”.


jane Says:

Hi Tennis Freak,

“I thought you were a “Djoker 1st” supporter.” Well, he’s my top fave, yes. But, you know, I like tennis – full stop. And I am generally realistic. Djoko hasn’t been playing super well or at least not consistently well, and he’s likely got both Haas, and if he passes that test, Fed to contend with, on his side of the draw. So his chances aren’t super-fantastic. They’re not awful either. So it’s wait and see. If he by chance gets to the final and faces either Murray or Roddick, honestly I’ll be happy happy happy no matter who wins. I like to see the wealth spread around. I am a true social democrat, and no Donald Trump supporter. ha ha. But nor do I want a WTA scenario in the ATP, let me clarify; I’d just like to see a few new winners now and again – esp, of the slams, which mainly Fed (and somewhat Nadal @ 6 now) has been monopolizing. Maybe if there were five to seven REAL contenders for each championship, so it would be tough to call a winner; that’d be great. Yeah… Oh well, one can dream.

—————————–
tenisbebe,

It may well work for Djoko, to have a little less focus on him, esp. since he’s been inconsistent, relatively speaking, since winning the AO. I guess he’s working on positive thinking and I’d love to see evidence of that on the court, with a more positive mindset, and then see it pay off, maybe on the hard courts this summer. He hasn’t won a Masters Series title this year, unlike in 07 and 08 when he won 2 MS titles both years. Hopefully that’ll come later this summer? And no, he’s never won a grass court title. I believe Roddick won Queens in 07, and Djok played an excellent final there last year against Rafa. Not so much against Haas at Halle, where Haas outplayed Djoko but Djok was never at his best either. So…we’ll see if he can find it at Wimbledon. My hope for him here has been that he get at least to the quarters so he’s one match away.

It’s so nice that you’re back posting again! Did you win your match today?


jane Says:

And Tennis Freak, I have always liked Murray; go back to last year’s Wimbledon threads, esp. the end, and you’ll see I was thrilled that Murray’s performance meant he’d finally break into the top ten, where he belongs. I like his style of game, his confidence. He’s a nice contrast to Djoko in some ways, although they have stuff in common too, and I hope they have a good rivalry in the future, maybe that they contend for some slams; that’d be perfect.


huh Says:

Mrs. Jane, I can’t tell about 08 Queens final being excellent coz Djoko was error prone in that match and wasn’t playing his best tennis to be honest and he was extremely disappointed with himself for that. Anyway, if you enjoyed it, so be it !


huh Says:

I think 08 Queen’s Club final and 08 Wimbledon final’re among the most overrated matches that I’ve known of or seen.


tenisbebe Says:

Whatever………….


Von Says:

tenisbebe: “As I said before and as you well know, Berdych is a dangerous character but is streaky. Hopefully Andy will put him away on Monday.”

An unequivocal ‘yes’ on Berdych; he’s got the fire-power, ground game and booming serve, but he can have some lapses, and it’s at those times I’m hoping Roddick will capitalize big-time.

I’m with you on your picks. I’d first like to see Roddick win the Wimby trophy. Let’s be realistic here, fave aside, Andy’s window of opportunity is slowly closing. I’ve heard him say many times that he had 3 goals in tennis: (1) win the USO, (2) Wimby; and (3) Davis Cup. Thus far, he’s realized two (2) of his dreams, and I hope the other is not too far away, looming there on the horizon, just waiting for the deck of cards to be shuffled in his favor. Is it possible at this Wimby? Maybe, but not so likely. He needed an easier draw to get to the QFs, and then it would have been possible, but as it now stands, it’s anybody’s guess. But nevertheless, I’m hoping for him to obtain the desires of his heart. Some divine intervention would definitely make it possible. Have you been saying your bedtime prayers A-Rod or only talking to Brooke and twitter?

Federer does not need another GS trophy following so quickly on the heels of his FO win, and the other guys are young, they still have a lot of time, and can wait for the USO. If it doesn’t pan out the way I would like, then Murray is my pick to grab the Wimby title. Hey, wouldn’t this be something if Rusty were to pull out the upset. Oh wow. People talk of Murray’s pressure, but they forget Roddick’s pressure (he’s the face of America) and has had to walk in Sampras’ shadow. And, Sampras, has been very critical of Andy. This is where I’m somewhat angry with Pete, because of playing text friends with Fed, and talking about the holes in Roddick’s game, why doesn’t he help him. And, let’s not forget Hewitt, who’s got the Aussie dream riding on him. I can’t begin to comprehend Hewitt’s pressure, considering all the ghosts of his predecessors flashing before his eyes.


tenisbebe Says:

Jane: “It’s so nice that you’re back posting again! Did you win your match today? Posted June 28th, 2009 at 4:53 pm

I sent a response to you yesterday evening but it didn’t post – my darned router on the blink. Here goes again.

Thank you Jane! No, I did not win my match..sigh. I played a seasoned junk baller & I feed off pace, of which my opponent gave me none. I have another match tonight so hopefully I can turn it around. Thanks for asking.


scineram Says:

Roddick DID NOT win Davis Cup last year!!

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