Favorites Federer, Murray, Roddick, Djokovic Looking Good in Wimbledon Quarters
by Sean Randall | June 30th, 2009, 3:19 pm
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So my Wimbledon quarterfinal upset pick of Tomas Berdych over Andy Roddick didn’t quite go as I thought did it? Roddick played his best match while Berdych did what Berdych often does, go away just when you place your chips on him. Credit to Roddick though for playing huge.

Looking ahead to tomorrow, Roger Federer’s tussle with Ivo Karlovic is for me the highlight of the day. It’s probably going to be lousy tennis, with plenty of aces, short points and quick games. But with so much on the line for Federer and with the way Ivo’s been serving – his serve has yet to be broken this year on grass! – we are going to see some tight sets and nervy moments. Then again, Federer could get a good read on Karlovic’s serve and blow him out, but I think Ivo gets a set, pushes Roger to a few tiebreaks and keeps it close, losing in four.

Lleyton Hewitt’s been playing some of his best tennis in years and he extended Roddick to two tiebreaks at Queen’s. Hewitt, though, hinted at a leg issue in his latest win over Radek Stepanek which doesn’t bode well for the Australian if in fact it’s a real problem. So I’m picking Roddick here. Andy really upped his play impressively against Berdych and I think the momentum he gained from that win carries over against Hewitt. It won’t be easy, it won’t be pretty, but Roddick advances in four sets.

Andy Murray survived his requisite “tough match” outlasting Stan Wawrinka in the first complete contest played under the new Wimbledon roof yesterday. Wednesday, he gets the former World No. 1 and one-time King of Clay Juan Carlos Ferrero who like Hewitt is also finding new life in his later years. Unfortunatly for the Spaniard, he just not strong enough nor fleet enough anyone to handle Murray. I’ll take the Briton in straights.

And in the fourth semifinal, Novak Djokovic meets Tommy Haas in probably the toughest match to call. Haas beat Novak earlier this month on grass at Halle and like Murray, and even Hewitt, he had his “gut check” match against Marin Cilic saving two match points in a five-set thriller last week. Meanwhile, Djokovic has been cruising. The “under-the-radar guy” seems to building strength with each passing set and could be peaking at the right time. It’s a toss up match, but I’ll go with Novak in four sets.

As for the women, no surprises, really. Venus and Serena Williams are absolutely on another planet when it comes to grass court tennis. It’s frankly frightening just how much distance there is, or seems to be, between them and the next group. That said, I fully expect Venus to take the title again over her younger sister come Saturday.


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468 Comments for Favorites Federer, Murray, Roddick, Djokovic Looking Good in Wimbledon Quarters

vared Says:

It’s a toss up match, but I’ll go with Novak in four sets.
Sean I am shocked!!
Meantime, Djok is practicing with Dr Ivo
http://sports.yahoo.com/ten/news?slu…ters&type=lgns


Gordo Says:

Sean has picked Fed to win.

On ho!!! As a Fed fan, now all is lost. Sob.

Just kidding.

I agree with Sean’s handicapping except I think Haas may pull his match out, or at least make it go 5 sets.

The match I am hoping lives up to the hype is the Hewitt-Roddick clash. I hope the boys give it their all, and I think the winner has a shot against Murray.

A lot were saying that Andy Murray stumbled a bit yesterday, but hats off to Wawrinka – no one picked him to win a set, let alone take the match to 5 sets. I think it may have been the best thing for Murray, and perhaps the road has been too stress-free for the Djoker.

We’ll know in less than a day.

How exciting!


Gordo Says:

On a completely different topic but as a Canadian it is so rare we get to crow about any of our players – congratulations to Daniel Nestor, who yesterday won his 700th professional doubles match.

Nestor is fourth on the list of all-time doubles match wins leaders, behind Todd Woodbridge (782), Sherwood Stewart (723) and Jonas Bjorkman (709).

Having won 701 today to get into the semis, he should catch Bjorkman no later than the US Open and if the the team keeps rolling he should pass Stewart by year end. That would realistically give him a shot at passing Woodbridge next year.

Way to go, Danny!!!


vared Says:

He has a great partner in Nenad Z who helped him win W last year.


huh Says:

Damn exciting matches all four might turn out to be, but for me, Fed’s win is most important right now! Come on Fed!!!!!!


Tennis Freak Says:

Good picks, Sean. Same as mine.
Murray is the easiest to pick (90%+); Federer and Roddick’s matches are about the same (70% in their favor).
Djoko-Haas is 50-50. The Halle final made this match toughest to call, but my sources tell me Djoko gets through.


huh Says:

Has anyone taken note that no man has ever been able to make his way to seven consecutive Wim finals at a stretch? So this stat’s also goin against Fed ! And I hope there’s not some more curse of Borg involved with Fed’s path in the form of none ever being able to reach seven Wimby finals at stretch among men(as Borg himself reached 6 consecutive finals). I’m just freakin out thinking about Fed’s tomorrow’s match! But now, after a lot of thinking, I’ve finally decided that if I’m going to have to choose between Djoko and Murray, I’d go with Murray and give him my support in case I see neither Fed or Rod winning the Wimbledon. Actually I was reading an article on Metro Mobile in which a 60 years old elderly lady has commented after Murray’s yesterday’s match that it’d have been terribly disappointing for the British people had Murray lost the match as he’s the only one who’d given GB hope of Wimbledon/GS triumph in a very very long time. She also said that she is hoping, what Tim couldn’t do may be done by Murray. I’m sympathetic towards the British people as it is no sin for them to support and back up their guy to go all the way in Wimbledon. They’ve got every right of dreamin or hopin or prayin for Murray’s triumph at Wimbledon and I fully support them in this respect. I was extremely happy to see Murray winning yesterday’s match and collapsing in joy on the court. I love the Britons the most after my own countrymen and hence others have to forgive me if my support for Murray increases further and further with Murray hopefully getting closer and closer to the final. Hence if I see Fed winning tomorrow against Karlovic, I certainly don’t see him losing to Djoko. I even don’t care whether Djoko wins or loses tomorrow’s match or whether he reaches the final or whatever else situation arises with respect to him; if Murray reaches final, which means he’d have to beat both Ferrero and winner of the match between Roddick-Hewitt enroute, then I’ve gotta say I’d comletely root against Murray’s final opponent if he isn’t Fed and even in Fed’s case, I’d try to be as impartial as possible! And be sure, I’m going to shed tears of joy if Murray wins Wimbledon, hell it’d automatically flow, just in the similar manner as it would flow in case Fed or Roddick winning it!


huh Says:

By the way, it’s nice to see Gordo back! :) I’m startin to like his posts more and more.


tennis_fan Says:

Murray seems to have problems with Spanish-speaking players at slams, so JCF shouldn’t be overlooked.


Andrew Miller Says:

Nice! It feels a lot like 2002 (pre-Mighty Federer) with the exception of 2 names: Andy Murray and Novak Djokovic. But, those guys are basically veterans.

Welcome back to 2002…


Fedfan Says:

I think Haas will beat Djokovic. Roddick and Murray should win, but neither will be easy. Fed should win too – but that’s not going to be easy either.

Fed-Haas and Roddick-Murray – that’s my semi line up.

Fed-Roddick – I think both go to the final, for Fed’s 15th slam win.


tennisbebe Says:

I am more worried Djoko’s chances over Haas than Fed’s over Ivo. Rodick, Murray, Fed, and 50/50 on Djoko/Haas.


tennisbebe Says:

I am more worried Djoko’s chances over Haas than Fed’s over Ivo. Roddick, Murray, Fed, and 50/50 on Djoko/Haas.


jane Says:

Gordo says “On a completely different topic but as a Canadian it is so rare we get to crow about any of our players – congratulations to Daniel Nestor, who yesterday won his 700th professional doubles match.”

I’ll second that congrats – and add, just to “crow” a little more, that Nestor also has the “Golden Career Slam,” having won all the slams and a gold at the Olympics.

——————–

I agree w/everyone – Djoko/Haas = 50/50

Tennis Freak – who are your “sources”? :)


vared Says:

New quote from Serena’s presser:

I mean, I use some of my trophies for makeup brushes, so, you know, maybe I’ll just take a step back and be like, Hmm. Take all the makeup brushes out and really appreciate every title and every trophy.

- Serena Williams after defeating Victoria Azarenka 6-2, 6-3 in the Wimbledon quarters today
http://www.wimbledon.org/en_GB/news/interviews/2009-06-30/200906301246354236234.html


Tennis Vagabond Says:

Andrew- I’m right with you! I wrote on my blog the other day that it was Retro Monday at Wimbledon: In 2002, Ferrero, Fed, A-Rod, Haas and Hewitt made up half the top ten! (And Avril Lavigne’s Complicated rocked the charts!)

That out of the way, yes, I too am a Nestor fan! Whats interesting this time is that his old partner Knowles is also still in the running.

Should be great matches tomorrow! Hope they end soon though, as I have C-Day celebrating to do.

On the Roddick-Hewitt match: On the one hand, you have Roddick owning Hewitt the past few years. On the other hand, you have Hewitt playing like he did in 02- when HE owned RODDICK. So… Who the heck knows? I’d love to see Hewitt and Ferrero win just for the retro semi.

Heck, lets go all the way with that thought: Hewitt, JCF, Haas and Fed for the 02 or 03 semis we never had! Yeah! Now why’d you have to go make things so comp-li-cated? Life’s like that, yeah!


Andrew Miller Says:

I kind of feel that Roddick has to get the job done this year at Wimbledon. If Karlovic gets the better of Federer, and then Roddick doesnt beat Hewitt, he’ll probably be kicking himself.


jane Says:

Not since 1993 have there been as many male Grand Slam Champions as there are this year; from the Wimbledon website:

“Ferrero is one of five former Grand Slam champions in today’s last eight, a remarkable number that has not happened at Wimbledon since 1993. In addition to Ferrero there are Federer, with 14 of them to his name, Hewitt (Wimbledon 2002 and US Open 2001), Roddick (US Open 2003) and Djokovic (Australia 2008). In addition, four of those five have seen number one written alongside their name, Djokovic being the only exception here. And Djokovic is aligned with Ferrero as someone who has yet to win a grass championship.”


tennisbebe Says:

I kind of feel that Roddick has to get the job done this year at Wimbledon. If Karlovic gets the better of Federer, and then Roddick doesnt beat Hewitt, he’ll probably be kicking himself.

Exactly. Have to look at the OOP. Does Fed play 1st again?


Dan Martin Says:

I think Soderling provided good mental prep for Ivo, but nothing really fits his physique and style of play (Isner stays back a lot more). Federer has to worry if Ivo gets within a set of victory because that likely means he will be able to be one tiebreak from victory. Fed is the favorite, but what can you say other than Ivo has the punchers chance.

Side news – I got credentials for two days in Cincinnati – the two openning rounds which are actually my favorite two days of any event because so many matches and practice courts give a person a lot to see.


Dan Martin Says:

That should read “opening” also I am waiting on Indianapolis but since they credentialed me last year they should this year as well. Not looking ahead but Midwestern hard court tennis is where it is at after London.


Kimo Says:

I dunno about you guys, but I happen to like serving contests. I don’t find them boring. It’s not easy to keep serving aces and service winners for hours, and the fact that those players can do it is truly remarkable.


jane Says:

tenisbebe – “Does Fed play 1st again?”

Yes, naturally. Centre court, first up, followed by Murray/JCF.

Haas/Djoko are first on court 1, followed by A-Rod/Hewitt (if only Roddick would don his visor once more, just for old time’s sake – then I’d really be taken back in time! At least he should turn his baseball hat backwards :)).


Dan Martin Says:

Roddick with the visor would be cool – Roddick, Hewitt, JCF and Federer is this 2003?


Von Says:

Well, if Fed plays first, it means he’ll play the first SF and then will have more recovery time for the finals. There’s a reason why he’s always scheduled first to play at the GS — a mathematical deduction, Watson.


Andrew Miller Says:

Credentials at Cincinatti is awesome! I heard it is a great tournament.


Dan Martin Says:

I guess 14 slams and 237 weeks at #1 might give someone top billing? These are professional athletes and under most circumstances physically the difference in a few hours when a day of rest is thrown in is negligible. Maybe the U.S. Open sees some real edge to the winner of the first semifinal.


sar Says:

I am going to Cincy this year. Yipeeee. Got all my tickets in the mail a couple of weeks ago.
I read that Novak was practicing with Ivo Karlovic? Tomorrow will be a real nail-biter.


Andrew Miller Says:

Wow – Tommy Haas does have a shot at the finals, doesnt he? I mean all these players – none are new faces. Haas could very well beat Djokovic and face off against Federer or Karlovic.

I know Andy Murray’s hope of being Wimbledon champion, but this Wimbledon, if anything, is retro. And at Wimbledon, tradition holds – players settle scores at Wimbledon, in my opinion.

So many veterans in the Quarterfinals! Karlovic, a vet. Juan Carlos Ferrero, formerly allergic to grass courts, the player who was famously subbed in favor of Rafael Nadal in the 2004 Davis Cup finals against the U.S., finds himself as the Spaniard in the Quarterfinals this year (if there were any winners and losers tally in the resurgence of Rafael Nadal, JC Ferrero must be at the very top of that list). Lleyton Hewitt, surgically repaired, finds himself in the Quarters. Andy Roddick, back in the Quarters.

If I were thinking logically, I would say – this is Djokovic’s chance to make it to the Semis (beating Haas), Federer’s through to the Semis, probably Roddick through to the Semis, and Andy Murray, through to the Semis. But if this is about passion and settling scores, then it’s JC Ferrero in the upset, either Hewitt or Roddick, Tommy Haas, and Federer.

Roddick has Ferrero’s number, Hewitt doesnt – so let’s say Hewitt makes it through – he’s into the finals, and Tommy Haas plays a smarter match against Federer, who has coasted. Hewitt/Haas – with Hewitt winning his 2nd Wimbledon.

Or it’s Ferrero through against Hewitt, and he gets Federer. Ferrero plays an Agassi-type of match and takes out Roger.

Ferrero wins Wimbledon?

Or Ferrero-Haas, with Haas winning his first Wimbledon?

This is a veterans Wimbledon until it’s not. I saw that Murray and Karlovic have the most to prove; Haas has been around long enough to likely know he can get the job done. And then in Ferrero, Federer, Hewitt, djokovic and Roddick you have all veteran Grand Slam champions.

At this stage it’s got to be who takes their chances. Karlovic might get nervous, so I say he blinks against Federer. Roddick and Hewitt should be a good fight, someone gets bloodied and wins that matchup. Djokovic has the edge unless it’s indoors (nod to Haas); Murray should win but Ferrero has shown the heart to win a Slam.

As it’s a grass court none of these guys should tire out. This really should be a good set of matchups.


jane Says:

I know this “what is old is new again” story is exciting, but let’s not forget that last year’s Wimbledon featured Safin and Scheuttler in the semis, and I believe Scheuttler played Clement in the quarters. So maybe grass lends itself to experience.

“I guess 14 slams and 237 weeks at #1 might give someone top billing” — sure, Fed can have center court everyday, etc, but perhaps he should have to play one late match, like every other player. It would seem fair. And besides which, is being on first “top billing”? After all, a bunch of people wouldn’t even see that match as they’d be at work. They’d see only the later afternoon and evening matches.

“Maybe the U.S. Open sees some real edge to the winner of the first semifinal.” — indeed.


jane Says:

Just noticed that Skorocel already commented on the “older” guy trend at Wimbledon on the other thread, and he notes Bjorkman as well. So it really is nothing new. Perhaps it’s just the number of “older” guys who’ve made it through this year that’s surprising.


james t. kneegrow Says:

How about Tommy Haas this fortnight? Can he continue this 9-0 record on grass this year? I think he a shot tomorrow to win in 4 sets or maybe 5. There is no way Djokovic wins in straights like I have been hearing all over the internet.

Lleyton Hewitt is back!!!!! And I like it but don’t bet on him beating Roddick. The two Andy’s are on a collison course, obviously both have their handsful to get there.

Ivo Karlovic is going to win this year’s Wimbledon. He is serving so great that I think this is his year with Nadal out. Federer has a chance to win tiebreakers but he will not break serve more than once tomorrow or I would be shocked.


FedRafaFan Says:

Sean, you are 100% correct that the Federer-Karlovic match will be the match of the day. If I could only watch one match out of the four matches, it would be this match. Actually I could only watch one match and I’m watching this one (thanks to the start time and the fact that I have to be at work). I will go out on a limb and make a bold prediction: there will be at least one tiebreak if not more! I’d love to watch Federer break the GS record this Sunday, but he has a tough road with opponents that get tougher each round: Karlovic tomorrow, Djokovic in the semis, then the final test against Murray and the British fans on Sunday!


Tennis Freak Says:

Jane says: “Tennis Freak – who are your ‘sources’?”

I completely overlooked your question.
Well, my sources are pretty reliable ones, at least for me. They are big bettors and ATP Draw Challenge circuit/ leaders. Check out the top ones: All of their picks turned out to be correct for the Rd. of 32 and 16, including JCF, Karlovic, and Hewitt, so their picks for the quarters and semi should be good, too.


Tennisfan Says:

Looks like the Williams double match might play over part of the Men’s quarter finals … I can hardly wait………………………..


Tennisfan Says:

Jane & Von, What’s with the Federer first conspiracy theory? He plays first and on Court 1 because he is a huge draw … He doesn’t get to play last because Murray is a bigger draw … so he is the main evening attraction. Most years at the US Open Federer plays last on Centre court because he’s the main attraction.

Federer has had a tougher draw than Djok and Murray anyway. The way Soderling played he would have made big trouble for any of the other players in the main field (Roddick, Djok, or Murray) … I suspect none of them would want to face Karlovic in the next round either …


sports fan Says:

This is the toughest Draw that Roger has ever had at Wimbeldon…….If he can get #15 and come through this draw than that will be an incredible effort on his part and will go even further to show that he is the best to have ever played the game, and ofcourse there is only about 2% of tennis fans around the world which do not have the same opinion, but I think they will when Fed’s career is over………Prediction for the rest of the tournament

Q-Final…….Federer def. Karlovic (4 sets)
S-Final…….Federer def. Djokovic (5 sets)
Final………Federer def. Murray (4 sets)


jane Says:

Tennis Fan – “He doesn’t get to play last because Murray is a bigger draw … so he is the main evening attraction.”

This claim doesn’t hold water, since they’ve played on opposite days up until tomorrow. Therefore, if Fed is a big draw, and no doubt he is, logically he should be playing later so more people can attend his matches without taking the day off, or more can see him on t.v. (that’s been the case with Murray, who’s mainly played late). Fed should play at late match at least once in each slam. It’s fair and I’m sticking to that. And nor is this a conspiracy theory – check last year’s Wimbledon, USO or this years FO’s schedules: they’re all similar. At the USO last year, for e.g., he played 1 night match, his first.

I didn’t say anything about Fed’s draw either. It is pretty tough indeed, although I do think he traditionally fares better against big hitters than defensive, counter-punch-type players.

That’s why, given his tiebreak record and his 8-1 H2H over Dr. Ivo, I don’t see why people are so concerned. I think Fed will win for sure tomorrow.


blah Says:

I am picking djokovic to win the trophy. that’s all.


Von Says:

I don’t understand why there is so much fear for Federer playing v. Dr. Ivo. I’m sorry, but I didn’t see this fear and concern for the other players who’ve been eliminated by Dr. Ivo at Wimby and other tourneys as well. It seemed to be taken as par for the course with those occurrences, and as such, shouldn’t the same be applied to Federer, that it’s his luck of the draw? I think it’s only fair. Don’t worry guys, Federer will beat Karlovic in the tie-breaks because Dr. Ivo does not fare well in tie-breaks when he opposes a player who’s strong off the ground.


Mina Says:

I think that now that there is a roof and lights at Centre Court, the benefit of playing earlier in the day is negligible if the players are given a day of rest before their next match. The evening match will never have to be postponed until the next day because of rain or darkness.

I do, however, think it is odd that ALL of Federer’s matches so far have been the first of the day on Centre Court. I know that obviously, he’s an incredible popular player and they want to put him on Centre Court so they can sell more tickets, but I don’t recall him ever playing a Slam where he didn’t have to play on another court and at a different time slot at least once.


blah Says:

there is a reason karlovic serves as well as he does and almost never (when’s the last time) wins a tournament. Federer would much rather be playing him than Haas or Hewitt. It’s just people trying to hype up federer’s draw again. Federer would much rather have this draw than some others he has gotten in past slams; the absence of Nadal does wonders for his confidence and game.


huh Says:

Fed’ll play before others this time. But the few hours won’t make that much difference IMO. After all, young guys should manage it, i.e. playing later and returning again to challenge coz if they fail to do this at 22, they can’t do it any
later.


huh Says:

So much of concern showed for the younger guys, after they play a little late match or a 5 setter only reinforces my belief in superior fitness and stamina of the older guys.


huh Says:

If Fed manages to beat Ivo, which’s a big ‘IF’ IMO, then I would bet my money on Fed to win the Wimbledon. But if Fed loses, I’d like Murray’s chances. Djoko’s no way beating Fed or Murray here. Djoko has a chance only if both Fed and Murray’re taken out.


Goran Says:

First of all Hass stand no chance against Novak. It is going to be easy win for Novak. Have you guys watched Novak lately or you slept entire tournament. Novak all the way. Greetings from Vancouver,Canada


Colin Says:

Kimo, you made a good point about the monster servers, particularly Ivo. It’s not simply a matter of being incredibly tall and banging down serves. His service action must be very reliable. Remember Ivanisovic! He had one of the best serves ever, but on an off-day it would become unreliable and he’d self-destruct.
Huh, you are confusing perception with reality. The concern shown for young players after a long match doesn’t prove they aren’t fit. The only thing that can prove that, is an actual appearance of tiredness in the NEXT match. Anyway, Nadal isn’t an oldie, and his stamina has always been fine (the knees are another issue).


Skorocel Says:

huh said: “So much of concern showed for the younger guys, after they play a little late match or a 5 setter only reinforces my belief in superior fitness and stamina of the older guys.”

To tell you the truth, I just don’t get it why there’s such a fuss about that Murray’s match vs Wawrinka?! Federer (who’s really an oldie compared to the Scot) had to play TWO (2) fivesetters + another TWO (2) matches which lasted at least 3 hours en route to his FO title, yet no one barked a word about it… But now that Mr. Murray is playing a 4 hour match, they’re suddenly all concerned about his stamina in the matches to come… WTF?


Skorocel Says:

blah: „It’s just people trying to hype up federer’s draw again.“

LOL!


Tennis Freak Says:

Good morning, kidos.
1 minute left to start, 1st serve.


Tennis Freak Says:

In both matches, both hold their serves in the 1st game. Go Fed and Djoko !


Tennis Freak Says:

Fed will take the 1st set now, with that break (6-3 at worst).
Both Djoko and Haas are slowly getting into the match: both looked nervy in the 1st 4 games.


Ty Says:

Is the stream from wimbledonlive.nbcsports.com working for anyone? I can’t seem to get the Fed match.


Tennis Freak Says:

Ty,
No, they don’t have anything going right now. They like to replay.


Ty Says:

So Karlovic lost his first service game of the tournament in his first serve game against Fed.. lol. And you guys were worried.


Tennis Freak Says:

1st set already in Fed’s basket.


Ty Says:

Why does it say Haas-Djoko available on ESPN360.com.

The only feed playing is the crap they have on tv right now? Yes I woke up early to watch ladies doubles.


Tennisfan Says:

Truly sad coverage of Wimbledon on TV … this is men’s quarter finals day and US television coverage insists on following the Williams sister in Women’s doubles play (of all things) when the Haas-Djokovic match is going.
… have they no shame?


Skorocel Says:

Fed is really whacking those returns…


tennisbebe Says:

Oh my God, there’re showing Djoko/Haas. Who is that guy, it looks like Novak, IT IS NOVAK, I’d forgotten what he looked like as it’s been SO LONG since we’ve seen his matches.


Ty Says:

I’m confused why ESPN even has 360. It’s playing the same coverage as ESPN2?


Ty Says:

I’m stuck doing what I’m always doing during a women’s match. Just please let it get over as quickly as possible so the pros can get on tv.


Ty Says:

I can’t believe the balls ESPN has right now to switch to women’s doubles. It seems like the commentators can’t even believe it.


Von Says:

You guys need to understand ESPN CANNOT show Federer’s match or even mention the score due to NBC’s broadcasting rights. Fed’s match will be delayed broadcast. That’s the way the cookie crumbles, where NBC will cover Centre court and ESPN will show the other courts’ matches. Hence, it’s not a matter of US players being shown for American viewers. Maybe Canada needs to get its own feed instead of consistently relying upon the US to supply Canada’s viewing needs.


Von Says:

Try ATDHE.net.


Tennis Freak Says:

The way Djoko is playing, he might lose to Haas.

To make his own life easy, Djoko must pound on Haas’ serve. He has to be able to read Haas’ serve: They are very returnable. Forget about drop shots. Play long baseline rallies and low slices if your serve is not working great. Don’t let Haas win games in love. Cut UEs and serve big. If he does all these, he has chances to win, or else gift the oldest man the match.


Ty Says:

It’s not Fed, Djoko and Haas are playing not Fed and they still switched to that garbage.


Ty Says:

TF: thanks for the feed.

Sorry for the bitching, just wasn’t expecting such a bold move from ESPN. I like Karlovic rockin the shades.


Shaky Says:

ESPN360 is just streaming ESPN2. The semis/finals are always on NBC (I think this is true for all 4 slams).

So yeah, we lose. :( I think the Williams sisters are about to win, but that doesn’t help you if you are trying to watch haas/novak.


Ty Says:

Go Haas! You must break him.


Tennis Freak Says:

Haas wins the 1st set and now will win the match. Djoko does not have desire and nerve to beat Haas today. He looks resigned. My sources misinformed me about this one.


Ty Says:

damn Haas is looking pretty solid so far. First set 7-5. I wonder if he can challenge Fed.


Tennis Freak Says:

Fed is about to break in the 2nd set and run with 2 sets lead. It’s Fed the Greatest, marching as planned.


Von Says:

Ty: I posted that feed. LOL.


Shaky Says:

TF, you’re doing it again with the early obituary! Careful! (Only this time I’m more inclined to agree with you.)

And Haas definitely has a chance against anyone. He can’t be taken lightly when his serve/volley game is on, not here.


Tennis Freak Says:

Oouch, Fed was not able to take advantage of that 0-30 lead in the 7th game of the 2nd set.


Tennisfan Says:

Haas healthy for the first time since 2002 … this guy has a game … c’mon Haas show every one that serve and volley is the best strategy at Wimbledon … maybe some of the younger players will learn something new!!!

Von: Eurosport coverage of tennis is vastly superior to ESPN or NBC. US commentators are mostly unknowledgeable about the game (even some of the ones that used to play) and coverage is bias to the extreme.


Ty Says:

Seriously why do they hate Haas-Djoko? They keep going to doubles. They never show doubles.


Von Says:

Yeah, what happened to all the anguish and moaning about Karlovic’s serve. phew


Tennis Freak Says:

Shaky,
You know how impulsive I am. Excuse me for that, even if that may very well be the case at the end.


Skorocel Says:

Not so fast, Tennis Freak! :-) Ivo dug out of that 0-30 deficit, and is slowly but surely finding his range… 5-4 Karlovic!


Von Says:

Tennisfan: I’ve learnt to live with it and accept it because that’s what it is. Maybe the US commentators are not knowledgeable, but they’re all we’ve got.


Tennisfan Says:

Looks like its doubles day at Wimbledon (at least as far as ESPN is concerned) … I’m going out a getting an Internet appliance to feed streaming onto my TV. I never want to put myself through this again.


Shaky Says:

“Yeah, what happened to all the anguish and moaning about Karlovic’s serve. phew”

Umm his serve is still crazy and the match is still very tight. This is legitimately still anyone’s match.

I picked Federer to win, but I’m still nervous. If you’re watching the match, Karlovic is totally in this.


Ty Says:

What is going on today? When they switch to doubles the team serving for it can never finish it off.


Scottish Says:

Hey all!! Fed got the break early – sweet. Looks like a 2nd set tie break. Way to go Haas. Hope he wins in straight sets.


Ty Says:

Is there an HD stream anywhere or anything better than the one posted?


Skorocel Says:

That was a brutal BH return from Fed! 2 BPs!


Tennis Freak Says:

The only reason I want Djoko to win is Fed-Haas semi will not be a competitive match and Fed-Djoko semi can provide Fed with an opportunity to prepare mentally for the final.


Skorocel Says:

Fed breaks!


Shaky Says:

Ok right after I post that, Federer gets a racket on 4 consecutive balls.

That serve is outragous, but Karlovic really needs to volley better. I’ll bet he’s over 90% on 1st service points won, but if he doesn’t get the service winner I’ll bet that number drops to 40% or lower. His first volley is just not that good.


Tennis Freak Says:

Fed takes 2 sets lead, without having to play tie breakers. Beauty !


tennisbebe Says:

Von – thank you for that NBC/ESPN contractual explanation. It’s gets old when everyone is griping about the coverage at GS’s when they just don’t understand it. Thanks again.


Tennisfan Says:

TF … don’t under-estimate Haas. He has an excellent grass game and could actually give Federer trouble if he’s on. He pushed Federer to 5 sets at the French and his better surface is grass. So I don’t think this matchup would be a walkover. Too bad Haas isn’t on the other side of the ladder because I’d love to see him take on Murray…


Tennis Freak Says:

Too early to declare this, but Djoko is gone, gone. I feel pain for his fans.


Sean Randall Says:

Looks like Fed in a blowout. Guess I am not missing much as ESPN is busy showing Blake/Fish doubles (???).


Ty Says:

tennisbebe: eat it. Just because we complain doesn’t mean we don’t understand it. Maybe we don’t understand how they could possible bugger up a sport that is watched by so many.

And Von thanks for the link.


Shaky Says:

TF, why do you think Haas-Fed won’t be competitive?

Actually, why do you think Haas-Novak will be more competitive, that’s what I should be asking. Just based on past success? I don’t think Novak has had the kind of success against fed that murray does, isn’t he like 4-3 in their past 7 matches? And this is Wimbledon, not Cincy.

Count me as one of the few people that hasn’t bought into the Novak “underrated/dark horse” hype in this tournament. Macenroe and probably 80% of the people posting here bought into Novak after he pounded Fish, the opponent that was supposed to “test” him. But if you actually watched that match, Fish couldn’t have played any worse.

I strongly think Haas can push Federer, and nothing in this tourney so far makes me believe Novak could. Haas/Cilic was probably the match of the tournament — Haas is the one that has been battle tested and has the confidence to hurt Fed this time around, in my opinion.


Von Says:

tennisbebe: You’re welcome. The US has three (3) doubles teams playing today, so it’s natural for ESPN to want to cover those matches. I mean if the other countries had teams playing and a US team also, I’m sure they’d favour their own athletes over the US for coverage, so why is it a crime for the US to cover its own teams?


Ty Says:

Von: Come on! Do you really believe for a second that France or England would switch to a doubles match with their own players instead of playing live mens QUARTERFINAL matches? Give me a break and get real.


Von Says:

Shaky: I had mentioned Fish played the worst match of Wimby against Djokovic. Fish’s return game was absolutely pathetic.


tennisbebe Says:

Ty – BITE ME. There are a million streaming links:

http://www.channelsurfing.net/

This is another one. We have learned to deal with it – saves energy.


Scottish Says:

Yeah Von I’m with TY on this one. They would cover the big matches. Sports are viewed quite differently in the rest of the world from the US.

Much appreciated the link!!


SRM Says:

Federer is toying with Karlovic in rallies. This match is going to get over very quick. It won’t be a bad thing though as I can watch next game before leaving to work.


Von Says:

Ty: “Come on! Do you really believe for a second that France or England would switch to a doubles match with their own players instead of playing live mens QUARTERFINAL matches? Give me a break and get real.”

Yes, I do, and I am being real. You can’t say for sure because those countries have not had players in doubles competing at most of the GS. Maybe, you need to wait and see what will actually transpire before judging our broadcasts. Anyway, let’s not bother to debate just enjoy the match. Is that link working for you?


Cindy_Brady Says:

No Live Men’s QFs again. NBC and ESPN2 still don’t have it right.

Tape delay crap. blah blah blah!!!!


Von Says:

Scottish: Ok, I’m outnubered. Enjoy the matches.

tennisbebe: “BITE ME.” Where?


Shaky Says:

Von: totally agree, and I’m a Fish supporter (2nd favorite american behind Roddick). The guy never woke up for that match, it was shameful, and people read into the straight set result that Novak was playing great tennis… I don’t buy it, not at all. Novak has not been impressive, not like Haas has.

Novak is still totally in this Haas match, I’m not pronouncing him dead until Haas has 2 sets and a break, no way. But Haas has had the tougher draw and has answered the bell every time.


tennisbebe Says:

Von – On my arse.. :-)


Scottish Says:

Does anyone know how many rackets these guys bring with them?


Von Says:

And another:

http://www.justin.tv/fromtvhockey

And another another:http://www.justin.tv/latenighttalkshows

Now watch and enjoy please!


Von Says:

tennisbebe: It’ll hurt when you sit. LOL.

Scottish: Usually about 6,


Von Says:

Djokovic is getting nervous, he’s bouncing the balls a lot.


tennisbebe Says:

Yes, his ball bouncing is a sure sign. BREAK.

“But Haas has had the tougher draw and has answered the bell every time.” Love that expression!


Tennis Freak Says:

Shaky,

(1) That Haas will be not so strong opponent in the mental department is based on their past meetings.
Fed does not need another long grueling match in the semi.
(2) I never believed Djoko was the dark horse here and never thought he was a title contender, but he could have been helpful for Fed in the mental section because Fe lost to him in their last 2 meetings mostly due to mental lapse, similar to the ones that Fed loses to Murray, PARTLY due to the same reasons.
As the facts stand right now, Fed is getting Haas for almost 100%, not Djoko. So the end of the story. Haas leads 2 sets to love and will win in straight.


Ty Says:

Von, TennisBebeefsef: Sorry the coverage was breaking me.

Did that weiner Djoko actually just yell at a ball kid?


Cindy_Brady Says:

Haas looks to be in control now. Joker is nervous!


Gordo Says:

OMG – Haas is pulling the old Federer trick of “Hmmmn – 5-5 in games. Time for a break”

2 sets in a row. Can he finish this set and take a commanding 2-0 lead?

Oh Goran!!! – In your post yesterday you said there was “no way” Haas could beat the Djoker.

Are you still as sure now?


Ty Says:

Haas is pulling a Haas looks like.


Ty Says:

Haas comes back down to life and Djoko wins the match in 4.


Tennisfan Says:

Yeah Haas … he’s the man…


Gordo Says:

Tennis Freak -

If Haas does win today I am sure Fed will miss playing Djokovic in the semis about as much as he missed playing Nadal in the final of the French Open. lol


Scottish Says:

Rats Djoko broke back. Hopefully Haas doesn’t get too down about that and take it in the tie breaker.


tennisbebe Says:

Ty – didn’t see the ball boy incident. Had to make my latte. Tie break! Lordy.


Tennis Freak Says:

Haas got nervy there and gave back the break in love. Now on to the tie breaker. And he give his mini break back to Djoko. What’s going on here?


Skorocel Says:

Karlovic needs to get this 3rd set into a tiebreak! There, anything can happen…


jane Says:

Haas is doing so well at protecting his serve; Djoko couldn’t return it at Halle and can’t today either, or at least he hasn’t been able to until desperation time. I really think Tommy will win based on what I’ve seen so far, but I’m happy for Djoko’s run here regardless of what happens, and if Haas wins, I hope he can go further.

And as was predictable, Fed is having no serious trouble with Karlovic.’

Mina says ” The evening match will never have to be postponed until the next day because of rain or darkness.”

Well, this is true ONLY for center court.


Skorocel Says:

“Guess I am not missing much as ESPN is busy showing Blake/Fish doubles (???).”

LOL!


Von Says:

WOW, did Djoko get lucky. Haas landed a serve smack on the line and it was called out. He looked like he wanted to challenge but didn’t.


tennisbebe Says:

Who’s going to lose there cool first? Tommy’s probably going to go ballistic if he loses this set.


tennisbebe Says:

Oops – “their cool”


Kimo Says:

tbh I was scared of Karlovic, but this IS Federer after all. This shows how good Fed’s return is. It’s true that he chips most of his returns, but against Karlovic that’s all you need to do because you’ll win almost all rallies.

Forgive me Roger for doubting you.


jane Says:

Kudos to Fed – he’s doing all he can do: serve well, keep the UEs down; he’s even broken Dr. Ivo, which no one else has been able to do thus far.


Ty Says:

Wow, I don’t recall ever seeing Djokovic that tight.


Kimo Says:

Go HAAAAAAAAAAS go!!!!!!!


jane Says:

Djoko blows a 6-3 lead in the tie break. Sheesh. Well, Tommy most definitely deserves to win.


Shaky Says:

Holy cow, that backhand at 5-6… just wow.

And I’ll say it: 1 handed, that backhand just looks about 100 times better. Nice shot, Tommy.


Ty Says:

Two backhands right on the line on set point.. amazing Haas. And a little lucky I’m sure


Scottish Says:

Ha ha Djoko crumbles with 3 set points. Love it.


tennisbebe Says:

ok – 2 sets to Haas. But Djoko can still get it together and make a match of it. C’mon Djoko. I want another 5 setter.


Kimo Says:

Missing three sets points? I gotta admit at 6-3 I thought the breaker was a lock for Djoko, but WOW!!!!


Cindy_Brady Says:

Joker is a choker.

Haha…


Skorocel Says:

Did Djoker waste 3 setpoints?


Tennis Freak Says:

Haas makes a double fault and allows Djoko to get back. Now 3 set points for Dj, 6-3. Haas saves 2, and Dj has a chance to serve out for the set but he squanders. 6-6. Another forehand error from Dj, and Haas serves out in his 1st attempt.
Haas up with 2 sets. The glimmer of hope for Dj is instantly extinct. It is all nerve. Dj screwed it up big time. Haas did a great job.


Von Says:

OK guys at 10:00 am you can switch over to NBC.


Skorocel Says:

Tiebreak indeed! Now let’s see what Karlovic can make out of it…


Gordo Says:

You cocky guys who had already given Haas the two set lead almost had egg on your faces. Instead you are looking like pretty good fortune tellers.

And having the set on his serve and losing 5 consecutive points has to make me conjure the nickname The Dchoker!


Kimmi Says:

Oh No..Djokovic got a big chance to capitilize after Haas made a double fault in the tie break. And then it was 6-3, three set point for djoko….but he still find a way to lose the set.


Tennis Freak Says:

Now, Fed gets his 1st tie breaker with Ivo. Let’s see what happens here.


Von Says:

Skorocel: Yes.


Tennisfan Says:

yeah … maybe NBC will bring us up to date on the doubles matches …


Tennis Freak Says:

With that mini break, Fed does it in straight. Amazing !


tennisbebe Says:

What is Novak’s 1st serve percentage? Doesn’t look that great.


Skorocel Says:

“but he still find a way to lose the set.”

LOL! :-)


Kimo Says:

Fed has faced every kind of player in the five matches that he has won (quite comfortably). He faced serve-and-vollyers, agressive baseliners, defensive baseliners, all-rounders.

Fed is simply the most complete tennis player, especially on grass.

You just can’t bet against him winning his 15th slam title.


Tennis Freak Says:

Sweet Fed for conserving energy for the next match. A quick job, indeed !


Cindy_Brady Says:

Congratulations Fed!!

21 straight slam finals. Incredible!!


Kimo Says:

21st semi in a row.

Unreal.


Scottish Says:

Wow – amazing tennis in that tie-break from Fed. He looks so strong. The semi-final streak continues!!


Shaky Says:

“If Haas does win today I am sure Fed will miss playing Djokovic in the semis about as much as he missed playing Nadal in the final of the French Open. lol”

Where is this coming from? You Novak fans are quite a bunch. How many underwhelming results in the slams does Novak have to have before you admit he’s really not playing at the level he was 16 months ago, and that’s exactly why he’s been dismissed early: he’s not that good right now, and nobody’s intimidated by playing him. Didn’t Haas kick his tail a week ago? He’s not Murray.


Cindy_Brady Says:

What is it? The next best semi-final streak is at 10.

Herculean effort by Federer.


Skorocel Says:

Well, that was certainly easier than I expected! 21st consecutive slam semi… and counting!


Tennis Freak Says:

Even Djokovic’s box abandoned him, his father, mom, and coach all left. Poor creature !


Skorocel Says:

Now Novak, please make some decent match out of it!


Kimmi Says:

Easy win from TMF. Was expecting a tough match but not to be….how does he always make things look so easy.

Well done


Gordo Says:

Ladies and Gentlemen -

Once again winning in straight sets, and now extending his incredible record of having reached consecutive Grand Slam semi-finals to 21… Mr. Roger Federer.

In case you hadn’t noted, Fed broke Ivo twice. And Ivo had not been broken on grass this year.

And – Karlovic did not have a single break point against Federer, who only lost 3 points on his first serve – 1 in each set, and only committed 7 errors in the entire match.

Someone has turned back the clock to 2005.

Pete – grab your American Express card and book that flight! You need to be there Sunday.


Kimo Says:

Shaky Said:

“How many underwhelming results in the slams does Novak have to have before you admit he’s really not playing at the level he was 16 months ago, and that’s exactly why he’s been dismissed early: he’s not that good right now, and nobody’s intimidated by playing him.”

You can say that again!!!!

He reached the Wimbledon semi only once and he retired that match. It’s not like he was always in Wimbledon semis!!!!


Shaky Says:

“You cocky guys who had already given Haas the two set lead almost had egg on your faces. Instead you are looking like pretty good fortune tellers.”

Almost as much egg as the Novak fans that insisted he’d steamroll Haas. Goran’s comment above is similarly delusional. :)

As for your nicknames, Novak did not choke away that lead: he had a 1 point mini break, 2 points on his serve and I think Haas hit two winners. It’s not like he double-faulted or missed a putaway volley into an open court. He didn’t choke, Haas played some great shots.

BTW, I love this Murray commercial that plays the Dune theme music. Chills.


Scottish Says:

If Fed plays this well the next two matches it’s over. I see the only person who can even challenge him is Murray because he has the belief in himself but he is going to have to really step it up to do that.


Von Says:

I’ll take a bet Pete won’t be there on Sunday. Federer said since he won the FO he’s only been able to text message Pete but not to talk to him by phone. Go figure.


Gordo Says:

And here is an interesting point.

By reaching 21 consecutive semis at slams, Fed has obviously been in at least 5 straight at each of the 4 majors.

Number of men currently on the tour who have been to at least one semi-final in each of the slams?

5 – and Fed is one of them.

Yikes!


Scottish Says:

Sorry Shaky but when you have 3 set points and you can’t step up your game enough to win it then it’s definitely a choke. Sure Haas played great but when you get yourself into that situation you have to win it.


Kimo Says:

Ever since Fed won his second slam back in 2004, legends have been saying that he has the game to be the GOAT, all that he has to do is back that game up with numbers.

You gotta admit that Fed’s numbers right now are so good it’s almost scary!!!!


Tennis Freak Says:

Murray and Ferrero are entering the Center, as I write.


Shaky Says:

Just so noboby thinks I’m knocking Novak unfairly: my point is that if you guys think Federer or Nadal should be afraid of playing them, you’d think he’d actually beat them in some of these slams, right?

He’s a fine player. He’s made the semis I think at every major once. But if you think he has some sort of mental edge on those guys… you’re nuts. You guys are as bad as I was a few years ago when I believed Roddick was in Fed’s head when he took a set off him in the wimbledon final. No. He doesn’t.

Novak’s still in this match, anything can happen. Chin up.


Ty Says:

Von: I flipped to NBC and the Today’s show is on lol. Some guy talking about michael jackson. Tennis is so dead in America.. haha.


Skorocel Says:

Shaky: “BTW, I love this Murray commercial that plays the Dune theme music. Chills.”

Do you know of some link?


Kimo Says:

I’m so surprised by people who assumed that Djoko and Murray were good because they were posting impressive victories. All I have to say is: look at the ment on the other side of the net.

Murray’s opposition was so easy in the first three matches that it wasn’t even funny. His match with Wawrinka shows where he stands. Djoko faced better opponents, but still not very good opposition either.


Von Says:

You guys seem as though you can’t get enough of a good thing. OY.


Von Says:

Ty: They’re showing Fed’s match delayed now. What can I tell you, we’re dead already.


Shaky Says:

“Sorry Shaky but when you have 3 set points and you can’t step up your game enough to win it then it’s definitely a choke. Sure Haas played great but when you get yourself into that situation you have to win it.”

Scottish if it were that simple, then if tommy had served an ace and then pulled off two clear return winners to level it, it’d still be a choke? How is that a choke?

Haas hit clean winners for two of those points, by my recollection, and put away a volley on his own serve (I could be wrong on the 2 winners). He made great shots, how is that a choke? Novak didn’t blow anything there, imo.


Kimo Says:

Von Said:

“You guys seem as though you can’t get enough of a good thing.”

Why shouldn’t we?!


Skorocel Says:

Seems like Djoker’s parents are back – and Novak too! 4-3 and serving.


Von Says:

Be careful, you might start talking in your sleep. LOL.


Tennis Freak Says:

Some Stats from Fed-Ivo match (1 hr. 43 min):
Fed—7 Aces; 2 double; 7 UEs; 94% 1st Serve; 39 W
Ivo—23 Aces; 2 double; 17 UEs; 81% 1st Serve; 29 W

Important: Fed has the least number of UEs overall, all matches included in the whole tournament, by more than half than Murray’s.


jane Says:

Come on Andys!

Have to agree with Scottish, even though he’s happy Djoko choked the second set tiebreak. It was rather a choke in the sense that he had it on his racquet. But it’s also true that Haas has a lovely backhand and played some great winners. So it wasn’t the worst choke ever.

tennisbebe – last I checked, Djok’s 1st serve % was below 60. And although for some guys that’s okay, for Djoko his game tends to click better when he can get lots of first serves in and be on the offense right away.

—————–

Congrats to Fed, that was a decisive, if predictable, win over Ivo.


jane Says:

Just out of curiosity – any Fed fans here think Tommy has a shot at the upset next round? I ask only because he was awfully close at the French. Interesting the way Tommy just goes for it on his second serve and really keeps the pressure on.

Given Murray’s returning skills, I cannot see JCF winning today.


Gordo Says:

I don’t know how it was on NBC for you guys and gals, but here someone had the wrong aspect ratio being broadcast, and for the first game and a half the image was scrunched up a bit. Karlovic looked thinner and taller than he actually is! :)


jane Says:

Good job Novak – at least he got a set.


Kimo Says:

jane, I really like Haas’s agressiveness with his S&V game on grass, but if you have seen how Fed is playing this year, I just don’t see anyone beating him, including Rafa.


Gordo Says:

Jane – Tommy is playing well, but this is grass. The only creature more comfortable on this serface has four legs and goes “moo.”

Nothing is going to stop Fed from reaching the final.

After I see how Murray does, I may even make a bolder prediction, for I think Murray is the only one in the men’s draw witha glimmer of hope of stopping Fed.


Tennis Freak Says:

Jane,
Are you kidding me? My prediction is Fed will win in straight, under 2:30 hrs. Rather, that should be the goal for Fed.


Skorocel Says:

Djoker back on track!


Gordo Says:

Sorry – that was surface. I ain’t no hillbilly! :lol


JCZ Says:

Remember Haas is an artist at squandering 2 set leads. So you never know…


Gordo Says:

Kimo – no, Rafa can’t beat him. He’s not even in this tournament.

Oh we Fed fans get giddy right after he wins, don’t we?


Kimo Says:

I remember everyone was wondering whether Fed will have the drive to keep winning slams or not after he completed his career GS. I think he has shown us the answer this Wimbledon. He plays better when he has nothing on his mind. He just lets his instincts take over.

I don’t remember where I read this, but someone wrote: A relaxed Federer is a dangerous Federer.


Kimo Says:

Gordo Said:

“The only creature more comfortable on this serface has four legs and goes “moo.””

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

“Oh we Fed fans get giddy right after he wins, don’t we?”

Well, we’ve been sort of in the shadows for almost a year. Let us enjoy Fed’s wins while they last.


Scottish Says:

Shaky, I didn’t SEE the tie break I only heard it and the commentator said Haas set up an easy shot for Djoko and he missed making it count. Anyway, it doesn’t really matter if it was a choke or not, he lost and has to really pick up his game. He certainly doesn’t look like he’s got the game right now to beat either Fed or Murray.


Scottish Says:

I don’t think Haas can beat Fed. Not if Fed plays anywhere close to how he did today. One thing I have been so impressed with Fed this tournament is playing only the shots he knows will count and not wasting energy. He know when to put the pressure on and when to play it cool. I don’t think Haas has the mental game to play Fed.


Tennis Freak Says:

Kimo,
I will definitely get giddy if Fed wins the 20th Slam. Right now, I am just enjoying the opium ride.


tennisbebe Says:

Thanks Von. My streaming is breaking up so off to do chores and back at 1pm when ESPN comes back on – hopefully they will show the rest of the Haas/Djoko at some pt & Murray/JCF after Roddick. Ciao for now & enjoy!! Congrats to Fed for 21 straight SF’s an amazing achievement. Jane – keep the faith baby (wink, wink).


Kimo Says:

Is it just me or is Murray’s movement off today? He looks tired.


Scottish Says:

Ferrero looks to be holding his own and Murray is not playing stellar. Could be interesting. Murray should still pull it out quite easily.


jane Says:

I think Roddick could win in straights today, maybe tiebreaks, like at Queens. But it should be a good contest. I was watching youtube highlights from their 2001 USO Qs and they were fun to watch back then, so…hope it will be a good match today also.

Thanks tenisbebe – But it looks like Djoko is headed for hard courts; Tommy just has the better of him on grass.

Ah well, it was an improvement on last year for Novak, and who knows? Maybe by next year he’ll do even better. In my opinion, he’s still growing into himself.

Cilic will be a bigger threat next year. JMDP will have a great chance at the French.


jane Says:

Murray can often have that lackadaisical look to him; but it doesn’t mean he’s tired physically. I would think, though, that the mental pressure he has could be an unconscious weight.


Tennis Freak Says:

Jane,
This is not my style to criticize when somebody is losing and not doing well, but Djok has to grow fast and NOW in one bold decision: Hire a new coach, abandon extracurricular activities, and not pay any attention to whatever goes in Serbia. Those things are not only distracting him from tennis, they are draining him mentally. He needs a drastic U-turn.


jane Says:

Djoko’s stats on the match, other than first serve percentage, were very good. He didn’t play a poor match like he did against Safin last year so that’s something in which to take heart.

Congrats to Tommy Haas – I think he may have a chance to push Fed here.

I am surprised Murray hasn’t got a break yet.


Kimo Says:

Haas wins. Deservedly, I might add


Esquilax Says:

Just heard Haas over Djorker. Well done that man. I like his tennis.

Anyone using the Wimbledon Live service? It’s been terrible this year – I’ve only had smooth video in patches, but the audio is always OK. Sometimes the video is games and games BEHIND the video.


JCZ Says:

And that’s that. I’m disappointed in Djoke, but as Jane said that’s at least an improvement from last year. My disappointment comes from the fact that this guy is a top 5 talent who has the tennis to win grand slams and be no 1, but he’s apparently not there yet mentally.


Esquilax Says:

..sorry the video is games and games BEHIND the audio.


rose Says:

this match between federer and karlovic is really worring..not impress with karlovic at all, only his serve is his bread and butter..btw congrats to haas ..well done..


Tennis Freak Says:

Murray seldom says “Come on” when he hits a big winner. Has anyone noticed this?


jane Says:

Perhaps Tennis Freak. I don’t think Novak’s doing terribly; he had a great clay season, other than the French. But he does need some sort of boost when it comes to “big occasions”. That is, he needs to win when he gets to finals and he needs to perform better in slams. I think a lot of it is mental with him, and he could also use a more consistent serve.

But most definitely, this is his worst year since 2006. In 2007 he reached 2 slam semis and a final and won 2 MS titles; in 2008 he won a slam, won 2 MS titles, and reached 2 slam semis.

This year – no MS titles, 2 slam quarters, and a couple of MS finals. So there is a decisive drop in form. I’ve been cajoled about voicing my concerns for Djoko on these boards, so I won’t go on and on about it. However, unless he does something to turn it around, he will continue to fall. Sadly. : (


Tennis Freak Says:

Ferrero gifts Murray the 1st set with that double. What a way to lose a set !


Rab Says:

I was really looking for a Novak – Roger Semi.

I hope Nole take some time out and comes back stronger for the hardcourt season. The game needs the old Nole back. With Nadal out with injury and Nole out of form we have 2 of the most exciting shot makers out of the game. We dont want Fed to have it all his way – do we?

Of course there is always Murray??? Or maybe JMDP will save the day…


Scottish Says:

Murray takes the set and will roll over Ferrero. Roddick/Hewitt match should be a great one. Shaping up for a good semi in that half of the draw. Fed should beat Haas but anything can happen eh?


Kimo Says:

I have a feeling the Murray match will be a five setter.

Just a feeling.


sar Says:

Novak got to the quarters this years which was way better than last year. He just ran into a hot Haas. Maybe next year.


Rab Says:

Scottish: I am not so sure about that. Murray is playing very inconsistently. I sense 4-5 sets here unless Andy wakes up!


jimbojones Says:

Haas, Federer, JCF, Hewitt, and Roddick – a new balls ad in the offing?


jane Says:

sar – congrats on your Cincy tickets b.t.w.!

Murray drops serve right away to begin the second – hmmm. Another roller-coaster?


Tennis Freak Says:

Jane,
Perhaps the problem lies in that very thought that Novak is not “doing terribly”; perhaps, he needs to do “terribly” so that he can take that bold step and make that 180 degree turn around back to 2007-08.


Scottish Says:

Yeah Murray not playing top form. Would love to see JCF win it.


Scottish Says:

Djoko definitely isn’t playing terribly, he just hasn’t stepped up and elevated his game like he needs to win this. At this level all guys are stepping up and he isn’t. You can’t fault Ivo today for how he played. He just came up against an incredible Fed today.


Tennis Freak Says:

Roddick starts strong and is about take an early break.


Tennis Freak Says:

And Roddick does it.


Kimo Says:

On a sidenote, I don’t think Murray should wear polo shirts unless he buttons it like Fed does. The open collar looks bad.


jane Says:

Tennis Freak, maybe so. I hope he recognizes whatever it is that he needs to do to realize his potential.

Murray is struggling a little here; I think JCF took something away from their last encounter.

Will it be a Roddick vs. Fed final maybe?

Or perhaps Haas vs. JCF?


Tennis Freak Says:

Murray is now playing better, upped his level, and leveled the set at 3-3. So no worry for Murray fans.


Tennis Freak Says:

So Kimo, if he buttons up, you’d find him more appealing? As it is, he is as good looking as Stepanek, if less charming in humor side of his personality.


tennisbebe Says:

They just advertised Cincy on NBC – finally. The one time I talked to the tournament director a few years ago I mentioned this very thing – advertising during Wimby – not that they hadn’t thought of it themselves.


jane Says:

Yeah, Murray is starting to find his return game – and when he does that, look out! Best return in tennis right now belongs to Mr. Murray.

Andy Roddick is cruising along nicely too.


Tennis Freak Says:

Murray runs away with 2 sets lead. Half an hour left from advancing to the semi.


Kimo Says:

TF Said:

“As it is, he is as good looking as Stepanek, if less charming in humor side of his personality.”

LOL. BURN.


jane Says:

Tennis Freak, looks are a very subjective thing. I find Murray more attractive than Federer,

Speaking of Murray, he’s cruising now.


jane Says:

go go Andys go!!!


Kimmi Says:

Well done andy. Pls finish this in straight.


Kimo Says:

jane said:

“I find Murray more attractive than Federer, ”

No one is THAT subjective. :DDD


Tennis Freak Says:

Jane,
“Murray more attractive than Federer”? Never heard of that and hopefully will not have to hear that in this life time.
But I agree it’s “subjective” (one’s subscription to cultural industry of mass media how they market looks?).


jane Says:

Federer has a huge nose and his eyes are so deep that they disappear into his face. His smile is nice though.

Murray’s eyes are clear and beautiful, he has a great nose and a lovely smile. His neck is long, like his mum’s, and perhaps he could’ve used braces at some point, but all things considered, I’d rather hang with him. : )

I do tend to like all things British admittedly – the fashion, the cars, the music, the people – only the food there leaves me wanting.


Fedfan Says:

I had picked Haas over Djoke. And Fed, obviously. the other two seem to be going my way too – Andy versus Andy.

I think it will be a Federer Roddick final….

Haas will be a bit tired on friday. He has played much more than Fed, and is 31 years old….


Ty Says:

This is just throwing some wood on the fire but have either Nadal or Djokovic been the same since that semifinal in Hamburg (or Madrid can’t remember)?


Tennis Freak Says:

Ohh, Jane, I wish you did not get into uglifying Fed. Bad, bad move. You did not need to do this in your appreciation of who you like. (When I compared him with Step, I was not being sarcastic at all in that phrase “as good looking as”).


jane Says:

Ty – it was in Madrid, and I’d say “no.” Afterwards, Nadal’s knees went kaput and Djoko’s brain or heart went schloop into the gutter. It was so close and v. exciting. If Djoko’d've got that win I think he would’ve had a great confidence boost, just what he needs. And Nadal might’ve listened to his knees a little sooner.

However, “IF” is kind of a pointless game in reality. It is what it is.


Fedfan Says:

Murray is winning quite easily – but he has yet to face a quality player in form on grass yet – either at Queens or here. He has had a very lucky draw so far. The semi will be his first test on grass. If Wawrinka could take him to 5 sets, I think Roddick will beat him. Murray plays too defensive to be a top notch grass court player. He is still around just because the conditions are so much slower than 10 years ago.


Kimo Says:

I think an Andy vs. Andy semi would be exctitng to watch. The match will be pretty much be defined by one of two things: Roddick’s serving or Murray’s returning.

And both guys have huge egos so it will be interesting to see who gets under whose skin.


Kimo Says:

Just a quick point on Stepnek. He used to see Martina Hingis, who’s one of the cutest girls ever.


Kimmi Says:

WOW WOW WOW. Go Go Andy M


jane Says:

Tennis Freak, I didn’t “uglify” anyone. I just stated why I find Murray more attractive, since you and Kimo expressed shock when I stated as much. Besides which, you started it all with your derogatory (whether you admit it or not) remark about Murray’s looks.

As I say, looks are very subjective. Maybe others will swoon when they see Fed, and some will prefer Murray.

Haas, on the other hand, will get just about all of us gals weak in the knees. : )


scineram Says:

“Goran Says:

First of all Hass stand no chance against Novak. It is going to be easy win for Novak. Have you guys watched Novak lately or you slept entire tournament. Novak all the way. Greetings from Vancouver,Canada”

Good call.


jane Says:

WOO-HOO Murray! Put the champagne on ice margot! :)

Fedfan you’re hilarious. You don’t get to be “around” in the semis of Wimbledon by being “too defensive to be a top notch grass court player.”

All of Fed’s fans just knock Murray for obvious reasons and it’s kind of silly. Whether you like Murray’s style of game or not, there’s no doubt he deserves to be where he is right now.


jane Says:

Hewitt’s finding some form in the second set. But Andy is still pushing him…


jane Says:

Sorry I shouldn’t've said “all of Fed’s fans” — some of them, like Kimmi for example, actually support Murray as well.

But many Fed fans here, today, are just blind to Murray;s talents. And I guess that’s normal as rivalries will do that to all of us.

Anyhow – am happy, thrilled! that Murray won. Even though I really like, and have always liked, JCF.

Congrats to JCF for a great run to the quarters.


Kimo Says:

jane said:

“All of Fed’s fans just knock Murray for obvious reasons and it’s kind of silly.”

And what r those obvious reasons??

I don’t like him coz his style is boring, his atittude is offensive (he said so many f-words and s- words in his Wawrinka match that put Nastase to shame, but hey, he’s a Brit at Wimbledon), his game is over-rated, and last but not least, I think he’s ugly as hell.


Tennis Freak Says:

I am not falling for uglification contest with you. I am not taking that bait. Not my style.
Even at those moments of aberration, I did not characterize Murray’s game in similar terms: eyes disappearing into face (“deep” = an Enlightenment fear of the unknown; eyes disappearing= denying your gaze a scrutiny, [reverse gaze, ref. Laura Mulvey].


Fedfan Says:

Jane,

name one quality grass player that Murray has beaten this year (or in his career).

Luck is an important factor. It happened to be on Murray’s side in the draw.

You will see – he will lose in the semi, since he will be facing a quality grass player, at last.


jane Says:

Kimo, well, perhaps I am mistaken, but I would assume it is because Murray has a great record against Federer: 6-2. It’s the same with Nadal. At first, when Nadal broke out (and even in many cases still to this day) some of Fed’s fans knocked Nadal’s looks, clothes, habits, style of play, etc. etc. because he was a threat.

I am not saying Murray will win here; he may not even get to the final. But I can’t see how anyone could say he’s not an excellent tennis player who deserves to be exactly where he is.

Finally, I don’t see why his looks would make you dislike him. I don’t find Stepanek physically attractive, but he seems to have a great personality, and more importantly, I LOVE watching his tennis.


Tennisfan Says:

The fact Murray hasn’t had to play against very tough competition (except for Wawa) will probably work against him in the end. I don’t know if Roddick has the game to beat him … but if Federer watched the Wawa match … he should be able to figure it out. To beat Murray you just don’t beat yourself…


Kimo Says:

Oh please, don’t compare Murray to Rafa. That’s just insulting.

And if you think that the record that Murray has over Fed means anything, just remember that all of those four matches were when Federer was in a slump with a bad back.

Stepanek does have a good personality, Murray doesn’t.

And now I seriously hope Murray gets to the final and get his head handed to him on a platter by Fed.


jane Says:

Tennis Freak – you started it by commenting on Murray’s looks. Bottom line. Also, Mulvey was talking about film and “When a woman looks” so you’re altering her purpose to suit your own. I’m not going further with this. I will just agree to disagree with you and leave it at that. Thanks.

Fedfan – JCF took a set off Federer in 2007. Does that make him a quality grass court player? I thought Wawrinka played an excellent match also.

Anyhow, I’ll concede to you that Murray’s had a decent draw, though I thought his first two rounds were fairly or potentially tough. I’ll also concede that Roddick may very well beat him and I would be fine with that.

But i still maintain that Murray is a good grass-courter: he won Queens and he was in the Qs of Wimbledon last year and the semis this year. That’s a decent record.


jane Says:

Kimo says “I seriously hope Murray gets to the final and get his head handed to him on a platter by Fed.”

Well, I gotta hand it to you – you’re nothing if not emphatic. LOL.

I’d rather see a competitive final if Murray gets there; even if Fed were to win, wouldn’t it be more exciting if it was a 5 setter? That’s what I am hoping for anyhow.


Fedfan Says:

Murray is an excellent hard court player – but not on grass or clay.

Don’t forget, both Nadal and Murray have 5 and 6 years of age advantage against Fed. That’s half a generation in tennis years. Nadal’s winning record against Fed is entirely a clay thing (9-2 on clay, 4-5 otherwise – so Fed has a winning record against Nadal outside of clay). I believe Fed and Murray have only played on hard courts, Murray’s favorite surface. At shanghai fed was clearly injured, yet almost won. His subsequent wins have also all been in 3 sets. So if you go into the details, rather than just looking superficially, Murray’s record against Fed is not that lopsided. Of course, most people just look at things superficially, in which case you will just see 6-2, and nothing else. or 13-7 for nadal, and nothing else.


Tennis Freak Says:

A great record against one player does not yield a Slam. And in a Slam, Murray is big ZERO, a fact, and may well remain zero for the rest of his career if he is only after those non-Slam records against one player.


tennisbebe Says:

“that put Nastase to shame” LOL

I saw many Nasty matches and there is NO WAY Murray is anywhere near that level. I think Murray’s game is refreshing. It’s fantastic that the top players all have different styles of play to keep things interesting. We are so very lucky to have the quality & depth of players we do at this time – unlike some other eras (Lendl’s for example). It’s so exciting!!


Fedfan Says:

Jane,

I am still waiting – name one quality grass player that Murray has beaten this year, or in his career, on grass.

Again, he is a top notch hard court player. but not top notch on other surfaces.


Fedfan Says:

Tennisbebe:

“We are so very lucky to have the quality & depth of players we do at this time – unlike some other eras (Lendl’s for example).”

I’d like to have what you are smoking. Lendl’s era was the most competitive EVER. started with Borg, Mcenroe and Connors and their peak, then Wilander, Becker, and Edberg at their peak – all contemporaries with Lendl, and all with 6+ slams. When has the competition been stiffer, kindly let me know???????????????????????????????


vared Says:

Fedfan you are right about quality opponents for Murray.I think if Roddick can take this from Hewitt he will beat Murray.

Mosquito was lucky to get as far as he has on grass. Grass was not the best surface for Djok or Haas either and Haas just played better today. Fed will take out Haas.

As far as looks go and as much as I don’t like Fed,skin-wise he seems to have a hue closer to that golden goodness that Djoko and Ana have.


Kimo Says:

Murray is a good player on grass, but not “Wimbledon Winner” good.

Henman was a better grass-courter for sure, and he had a SF showing at RG once. Not bad at all.


Kimo Says:

Roddick is looking very sharp out there today.


Ty Says:

One question: wouldn’t it only be logical for NBC to put ROddick-Hewitt on instead of Fed-Karlovic. I mean even on paper that match looks waaayy better as seen from a viewers perspective. Plus Roddick is a homegrown American. Also it would be closer to actual start time of the match with coverage. It only seems logical they show that match and they didn’t even do that right.

Just puzzling really. But oh well, thank goodness for grainy live feeds at work.


tennisbebe Says:

“And if you think that the record that Murray has over Fed means anything, just remember that all of those four matches were when Federer was in a slump with a bad back.”

Murray beat Fed in Cincy ’06 in 2 sets.


jane Says:

Fedfan – personally, I think JCF is a quality grass court player; anyone who can take a set off Fed and get him to a tiebreak deserves some kudos. Murray beat JCF twice this year, and JCF couldn’t get a set from Murray. And if you look above I’ve already conceded that Murray’s draw was decent and that he may well lose to Roddick or Hewitt next round. My point is simple that he is an excellent player!

Murray was in the semis on clay at Monte Carlo and the quarters of the French, and then he won Queens and now he’s in the semis here.

I think you’re being too reductive – sure hard courts are Murray’s best surface, but that doesn’t mean his game doesn;t translate to other surfaces. Clearly, it does.

I actually liked Lendl’s era as well (so many great players), but I do agree with tenisbebe insofar as it’s nice to see players playing different styles and Murray’s is refreshing.


Kimo Says:

tennisbebe said:

“Murray beat Fed in Cincy ‘06 in 2 sets.”

I mentioned the last four matches. Before that it was level at 2-2.


Fedfan Says:

JCF is not a quality grass court player!!!! and he is 29 years old. Beating JCF on grass doesn’t mean a whole lot. If JCF is the “best” grass court player Murray has beaten, then he is in trouble the next round.

I think we are too eager to annoint people as “great” players on a particular surface just because they may reach a quarters or a semi. That’s a low standard to have.

Regarding Lendl’s era, I still disagree with tennisbebe in characterizing it as either less competition or less vareity. becker, edberg, lendl, wilander, mcenroe, connors, (and borg in the earlier years of lendl) – they were very different from each other. and there were many other players with so much more vareity then (Mecir, Chang, Cash, etc.) – all slam winners. the 80s was absolutely the golden era of tennis in terms of both quality and vareity.


Kimmi Says:

What a tie break. Hewitt at least after giving up the early break of serve, he was able to come back.

Well done Hewitt


Fedfan Says:

Wow, Hewitt pulled out the second set!


tennisbebe Says:

Fedfan – It’s good stuff, I’ll send you some. You are right, my bad, I shouldn’t have said lendl’s era – it was Lendl’s play that turned me off – that guy played like a robot.

Back to my reefer…:-)


jane Says:

Ty – can you please get a job at NBC?

Roddick is indeed looking sharp, though Hewitt just scrapped out that tiebreak.

Murray has a great record over Roddick but it’s difficult to say what will happen if they meet in the semi as Roddick is rejuvenated this year. If Murray were to meet Hewitt on the other hand (and which is doubtful), Murray’s played him only once in 2006 – and won.


Tennis Freak Says:

Jane,

Kimo says: “On a sidenote, I don’t think Murray should wear polo shirts unless he buttons it like Fed does. The open collar looks bad.”
TF: “So Kimo, if he buttons up, you’d find him more appealing? As it is, he is as good looking as Stepanek, if less charming in humor side of his personality.”
Jane: Tennis Freak, looks are a very subjective thing. I find Murray more attractive than Federer.
TF: But I agree it’s “subjective” (one’s subscription to cultural industry of mass media how they market looks?).
TF: When I compared him [Murray] with Step, I was not being sarcastic at all in that phrase “as good looking as.” [Why would I get into double uglification of body parts of two players? I am not that mentally weak.]

Uglification begins with this remark.
Jane: Federer has a huge nose and his eyes are so deep that they disappear into his face.
Jane: Besides which, you started it all with your derogatory (whether you admit it or not) remark about Murray’s looks.

Can you point out which one of my posts uglifies Murray’s look or body parts? Thanks.


tennisbebe Says:

Kimo – yes, just thought I would throw that in the mix because that was ’06 – when Fed was Fed.


jane Says:

Fedfan did I declare Murray a “great” grass courter? I am merely saying he’s an excellent tennis player, whose game translates to all surfaces, but whose best surface thus far (he’s only just turned 22 in May don’t forget) is hard court.

He’s played good on grass for 2 years running – maybe one day he’ll be great on this surface. I think so.


jane Says:

Tennis Freak, you forgot this:

““Murray more attractive than Federer”? Never heard of that and hopefully will not have to hear that in this life time.”

Ha ha. Selective arguing will get you nowhere.


jane Says:

You also forgot this: “His smile is nice though.”

Go on and on about it Tennis Freak, but I stated my opinion and I stand by it. You are free to judge me and call it a “bad, bad move” but I don’t agree. And to borrow from skeezerweezer, “I’m out” where this topic is concerned.


Fedfan Says:

tennisbebe,

sure, I agree with you on that, lendl did play a bit like a robot!


Tennis Freak Says:

That is a fact, Jane. I have not read or heard from anyone comparing these two players’ looks, let alone anyone saying one is better looking than the other. Why cannot I hope “the comparison of looks in favor of one” never occurring in my life?


NachoF Says:

lol… I cant believe you guys are now arguing about whos better looking… so stupid… btw, though.. have you guys noticed that Federer smiles without his teeth showing?… I feel gay just by noticing it lol


Tennis Freak Says:

Of course you can stand by your word. I only wonder if that is really a virtue ! I am out, too.


Ty Says:

I’m debating on whether to look at the Roddick-Hewitt match until I get off of work. Do you think ESPN2 will show it in its entirety? Or should I just watch it and get it over with?


jane Says:

I agree that the Lendl ear was awesome. I didn’t mind Lendl’s clinical style either, but he was rather aloof, so I didn’t take to him in that regard. What a baseline game though – wow! His and Johnny Mac’s contests -esp early on- were always fun.


jane Says:

doh- “ear” should be “era”


jane Says:

NachoF, lol. You’re probably right – it is stupid. I think Fed’s smile looks endearing. He looks kind of shy when he smiles.


jane Says:

Tennis Freak, nah, I am not virtuous. I am probably a villain. LOL.

Let’s just put it behind us; I like your writing and your posts.


Ty Says:

Someone post that old picture of Fed in NY with the leather jacket on quick.


jane Says:

They just put Roddick on LIVE on TSN – FINALLY!!! : D


Tennis Freak Says:

Carnivalesque just worked. You did not even notice. Smile, smile !


tennisbebe Says:

Ty – it depends how loing this goes of course but I think ESPN will show the rest of this match (so I’d watch now) and then as must of the Murray match that they can as their coverage ends at 5edt


jane Says:

Er, I guess I didn’t, Tennis Freak. But as much as I will accept the role of a Nietzchean “beyond morals or virtues” bad girl, I think it’s almost more honest to state one’s views openly than to imply them. I was honest. Maybe “bad” and not “virtuous” but honest.

This Roddick and Hewitt match is a throw back to those youtube 2001 USO reruns I was watching.


tennisbebe Says:

You gotta love the Aussie “fanatics”.


jane Says:

tenisbebe, what do you think about the all-Andy semi, assuming, which I am, that Roddick gets through? Do you think Roddick can beat Murray and make the final?


vared Says:

Jane, Murray should be good on grass, he’s from England/UK. He should be winning all grass tournaments due to this advantage over others from now on. The fact that he won Queens aginst Blake! when either no one showed up or when one rolled an ankle is not that earth-shattering. Still a win is a win.


Ty Says:

Ahh, two double faults for Hewitt in that tie-break. That’s definitely part of his game that has faded a bit – the mental part. He used to as solid as a rock in that aspect. I hope this goes 5.


Tennis Freak Says:

Jane,
Sometimes, implication is more efficient than explication. You don’t always need a big banner publicity. As the question, “honesty for what?” comes to my mind, on occasions, I take honesty more to be a means than an end in itself, but that does not mean that I embrace the ends-justifying-the-means approach (If faced with absolute choices, I’d be among “those who walk away from Omelas”: I am definitely not for Millsian “greater good”).
——————-
Roddick leades 2 sets to 1. Beautiful play from Roddick in that tie breaker. Go Roddick !


jane Says:

vared, I guess I can see what you mean, in that Murray would have access to the lawns. We’ll see how Murray does the rest of this tournament; I can see Roddick beating him. But, by that logic (i.e., Murrays from UK so should be good on grass), then Americans should win all the hard court events. I am not sure if it’s that straight-forward.

Anyhow -GO Roddick! He’s got the 3rd set. One more to go.


jane Says:

vared – you should read Djoko’s presser, since I know you like him. It’s mature and insightful. I think he’s really maturing and I hope it helps with his results soon!


jane Says:

I like LeGuin Tennis Freak.

Yay – Roddick got the break! This should be over in 4.


tennisbebe Says:

Jane: “I agree that the Lendl ear was awesome.” LOL That’s probably about the only part of his looks I found awesome. :)


jane Says:

Roddick’s stepping it up!


jane Says:

One thing about the Roddick vs. Murray match up: Murray often starts a bit flat, whereas as Roddick is ready to go on the first point. So Roddick could definitely win the first set, and then who knows?

Hewitt and Roddick are both so fidgety that it’s making me nervous. LOL.


tennisbebe Says:

Jane – saw your post re andy vs Andy. Will reply after this match is over.


jane Says:

Are Blake and Fish still alive in doubles?


Shaky Says:

Hey Jane, where can one read the transcripts of the pressers, or watch them even?


Ty Says:

Umm… looks like we got a match now with Hewitt-Roddick.


Shaky Says:

Crap, Hewitt just took set 4 by breaking. This guy is an absolute junkyard dog.

I’m sticking with my boy Andy because I go down with the ship, but Hewitt’s really on his game today. This is pretty incredible.


Kimmi Says:

Hewitt from behind again took the set..wow..


tennisbebe Says:

That fan yelling out on Andy’s serve on breakpoint was unfortunate.


Ty Says:

Man, if Hewitt gets to the final he will be destroyed again by Federer.


Fedfan Says:

So Hewitt one the 4th! amazing.

These two guys will just wear each other out. Murray must be smiling at his luck! He had such a walkover type match against JCF. Who knows, with this kind of luck, Murray might actually reach the final! The one quality grass court player he was going to face in the semi is now going to be tired after this long 5-setter in the quarters. Remember, both Hewitt and Roddick are older too, so its not going to be easy to recover in less than 48 hours.

I just hope Fed has an easy 3-setter against Haas, and then whips Murray in the final in case he reaches there.


Colin Says:

I didn’t watch the Haas-Djoko match but evidently Nole was below par. I haven’t scrolled all the way through the thread to see if this has been mentioned (too lazy!)but the BBC Radio guys were remarking on the behavior of the Djokovic clan during the match. Apparently they seemed to be sending very negative signals to their man, and then started leaving one at a time. If this is true, it might be a clue to Nole’s state of mind.
Hewitt has just levelled the match 2 sets all against Roddick. Can he pull off another great win? Though he’s physically much slighter, his will to win is equal to Nadal’s.
If he does win, I think Murray can beat him in the semi. They’re both basically counter-punchers, but Murray has more variety and is at least as fast about the court.


tennisbebe Says:

Well we thought this might be a dogfight and it is! OK – c’mon Andy, let’s get this done.


margot Says:

Miss Margot Murray says “COME ON!” Odd how Fed fans hate Mr TTM isn’t it? Is it cos you can see his shadow out of the corner of your eyes and it’s growing and growing?
jane: keep that artillery firing girl, you could out manoevre a huge batallion, with both eyes shut. Have you noticed how tennisfreaks starts a scrap the holds the hands up going “who me?” all innocent. Sorry bout Djko, but you seem to have been half expecting it.If we’re talking about looks, if you missed other reference, it’s the pornographer in that film.
von: good luck, match still going on as I write.


Ty Says:

What a first game in the 5th.


Ty Says:

Break coming here after long service game.


Fedfan Says:

I still belive Roddick will win this…. My prior prediction. Didn’t think it would be a 5 setter though!


Ty Says:

Wow, this is really good tennis. Very dramatic. It’s good to have Hewitt back again and fighting like usual.


Shaky Says:

Best return of the tournament there. Shank you very much, Andy.

Come on get this break, dammit!


tennisbebe Says:

Gutsy hold from Hewitt. What a fifth!


Ty Says:

Ok that return from Hewitt was amazing.


jane Says:

I think Andy will still win. But yeah, Hewitt is such a scrapper and thus so very dangerous: Rafa-like that way. You have to give him credit.

Shaky – go to Wimbledon.org, then to “players” (link up top), then on the left side of the page you’ll see a link to “interviews”. I really thought Djoko’s was fair and bang on, though I know you’re not a fan of his.

margot – thank you, thank you. Ha ha – the pornographer. Why didn’t I think of that!?

Fedfan “I just hope Fed has an easy 3-setter against Haas” – speaking of playing older players… :)

Colin, I didn’t get to see that, with the Djoko clan sending him “negative signals”. But honestly, I have to give credit to Haas. Djoko played a good match, not his best but good. His first serve percentage was much too low and he was nervous on some of the big points. That’s what made the difference. Tommy never let up; he went for it, serving, volleying, hitting great backhands. He did deserve to win, but Djoko played a good quarter final to my mind.


jane Says:

These two are dog-fighting for their holds; I hope Roddick doesn’t let that call distract him too much.


Fedfan Says:

Roddick has 40 aces already, and yet he is just on serve in a 5th battle! Would be a pity if he loses.


tennisbebe Says:

What was the scoop with that call? The linesperson lied???


Tennis Freak Says:

Margot,
Come Sunday, Murray may need a lot of your “COME ON!” rags when he gets bloodied by the Greatest. Save them for the right occasion.
Did I just hold my “hands up going ‘who me?’ all innocent”?
Don’t even think for sec. that you can bully me.


Ty Says:

Very nice throwback match.


jane Says:

Ty, check out youtube later and watch the highlights (it’s over 10 minutes long) of Hewitt and Roddick’s 2001 USO Quarter final. Talk about deja vu! Only Roddick wears his cap facing forward now. But very similar these two…


Ty Says:

Jane: I’ll have to check that later. I’m enjoying this one though. THey seem to be bringing the best outta each other.

P.S. sick backhand up the line by ROddick


Mina Says:

It’s annoying enough that NBC doesn’t show live coverage of Wimbledon, but do they really need to embargo matches completely so that ESPN can’t even give live updates or show clips of games.

I’m glad ESPN went with showing the Haas/Djokovic match which was much more interesting than the Federer/Karlovic one that NBC showed later, but some live updates on the score would have been nice instead of having to look it up on the internet. ESPN telling me to go watch the stream live online didn’t help me – I live in Canada and can’t watch the free feeds on ESPN360 or even access the Wimbledon feeds even if I wanted to pay money for it.


jane Says:

Indeed they do do that. This is a good one. Roddick’s backhand is so improved. Indeed his entire game is improved. Break point!


Ty Says:

Jane: ACtually I remember that match pretty vividly now that you mention it. There was a really bad line call that Andy just couldn’t get over. I remember it because USA network switched to “Martin” before the end of the match. lol.

I have this feeling that Hewitt is going to sneak this match out.


Tennis Freak Says:

P. S. to my last post: No sexism intended.


tennisbebe Says:

Break!!! Yes!!! Andy looks relieved.


jane Says:

Mina, I am Canadian too (Happy Canada Day b.t.w.) and you can always find free streams online. Let me know if you want some links.

YAHOO- Roddick got the break!


Ty Says:

Nevermind..


Shaky Says:

This match is going to be up there with Cilic/Haas for best match of the tournament if they keep this up. Hewitt’s netted some gimmes, but they’re both playing at a very high level now.

Nice break, Andy. Finish this, please.


Tennis Freak Says:

Great, Roddick breaks; now he has to serve out.


Mina Says:

jane – Thanks. Didn’t know there were free streams for Canucks. Would love some links.

I’m so happy Roddick got the break – this has been an amazing match so far.


jane Says:

Ty, yes. And there was a bad call in this 5th too. Maybe Roddick’s re-writing history this time by not letting it bug him.

Come on Andy win it already!

All Andy semi coming up!


tennisbebe Says:

Ty – you spoke too soon…


Mina Says:

Woohoo! What a great match! Congrats, Roddick!


Tennis Freak Says:

Phenomenal match. Kudos to both.
Happy that A-Rod won !


jane Says:

YAY ANDY! : D Congrats!

Great fight from Hewitt too – thanks for making the match so exciting!

Mina, here are a couple of free streaming links you can always try:

channelsurfing.net
atdhe.net


Mina Says:

Thanks so much, jane. Really appreciate it :)


tennisbebe Says:

Yippee!! Great match – both showed alot of guts and their experience on the grass (or is it dirt now).


jane Says:

Also Mina, you can always try: http://www.justin.tv/ and see what is there under “sports” and “tennis”.


Ty Says:

It is weird, for the longest time and during his days at #1 I didn’t really like Roddick but for some reason now I am very happy for his rejuvenation. I love to see guys work really hard and get results.

Congrats to both players. Hope to see Hewitt making deep runs more often.


Mina Says:

Haha “now we’re just 2 old married dudes” Roddick’s hilarious.


jane Says:

Ty “I love to see guys work really hard and get results.”

Exactly. This is why I’ve always liked Rafa too. And even Murray has worked so hard to improve his fitness and his serve, and both are paying off so far.

I wish the Andy-Andy semi were the final!!


tennisbebe Says:

Jane – ok on Andy vs Andy (I was afraid it would be irrelevant for awhile there during that match!).

Roof opened or closed? Just kidding. Definitely Roddick has a real shot. You took the words out of my mouth re: Murray slow start his last 2 matches so if that’s the case again AND of course Roddick’s serve is on, he could take the first set and then it’s anyone’s match. Murray will be the fave for the obvious reasons (variety, movement, returning, crowd favorite) but Andy is playing well and has the grass court experience to make it a match.


jane Says:

tenisbebe – I am waiting for your assessment of the Andy-Andy semi.


jane Says:

LOL. Sorry tenisbebe – guess you were composing as I was cajoling. Yeah I agree. I think Roddick has a definite shot. He has to come out of the gates firing and keep firing. And keep his head. But if Murray takes the first set, it will be difficult to fight the momentum. Should be a good one.

Like I said, I wish the Andys were playing for the title.


Ty Says:

Yeah Jane, Fed needs to let someone else get one.lol.

Or maybe Roddick will bring his 2004 final form to the table again and surprise Fed. Who knows.


Kimo Says:

Roddick plays his best tennis on grass. He has a lot more variety on his strokes and his loopy forehand doesn’t sit up when it bounces like it does on hard or clay courts.


Tennisfan Says:

Sorry … I am happy for Roddick and his much improved game … he is a bad matchup for Murray however. He likes to play fast and win quick and you only beat Murray if you are patient.

Hewitt could have given Murray a real test because he likes to keep the ball and play … precisely what Murray seems to have the great trouble with.

Federer will face a tougher test than Murray. Haas has been playing great serve & volley … so Federer will have to maintain his level of play or look towards a long, tough match.


Tennis Freak Says:

Q. Have you seen a player out there, that if Roger plays like this, you think he can beat him?

IVO KARLOVIC: Well, this year, honestly no.

Dang, no player can beat Fed on grass. He “is the best player ever, but on the grass he’s, you know, by far best I think.” Dr. Ivo sumps it up. He is just wowed with Fed’s game.


Cindy_Brady Says:

Roddick is going to need a very high 1st % to stand a chance against Murray. He needs to control points quickly with a one two punch, serve and forehand (alla Lendl)

If Murray puts Roddick into long protracted rallies, Murray will win. His ground strokes and movement are far superior. Murray changes pace and direction of ball better than any other player now, including Federer.

Roddick will have to serve “lights out” to stand a chance in 5 sets IMO.

Feds road will be much easier. He won’t take Haas lightly this time. I think Roger will come out focused and firing from the get go. Haas will not surprise him like at the French. I look for this match to be quicker than the Roddick/Murray match, straight sets!


Von Says:

Margot: Thanks. It’s an Andy v. Andy SF! I need a nervous system transplant. LOL. That little guy Hewitt is one ball of fire, I tell you. he pulled out all the stops and then some. phew.


Duro Says:

Jane: “Good try Novak; you played a good match. I hope you read this: what’s MORE important is that your press conference after the match is so insightful and mature, which says to me that you’re on your way back to your very best Novak. I believe it!! All the best wishes for the hard court season. : ).”
Jane, thanks for these kind words. I better don’t tell you what I told him (they won’t publish it anyway). I love him with all my passion but in spite of that fact I cannot accept certain things. I admire you people for so much understanding, there are so much of you… This is not what he needs. He needs a good spanking like a 7 years old child. At least!


jane Says:

Hi Duro – nice to hear from you. Yeah, I am not a member at Novak’s site, but occasionally I post something before or after a match in that “open” area where they post the articles. That’s the only place on the site I visit as I like to read the write-ups. If you’d like I could write – “do better or you’ll get a spanking” – but on the other hand, he might like that. ; ) LOL. I meant it though; I liked his calm demeanor (over all) at this tournament and in his pressers. He needs to keep going in this direction – he’ll turn it around. There is real power in positive thinking, moving on, and keeping on working and improving. Look at Roddick! Djoko can do it too. Take care. I hope your little ones are well and growing strong.


Kimmi Says:

Cindy_Brady: “Feds road will be much easier. He won’t take Haas lightly this time. I think Roger will come out focused and firing from the get go. Haas will not surprise him like at the French. I look for this match to be quicker than the Roddick/Murray match, straight sets!”

I agree that Fed will come out better prepared but I don’t think it will be quick straight sets. Haas is serving big, i see few tie breaks in this match… a little slip up..will lose a set.

“Roddick is going to need a very high 1st % to stand a chance against Murray. He needs to control points quickly with a one two punch, serve and forehand”

I see Roddick game as grinding out from the base line. I don’t think we will see a lot of one two punches from him… I hope I am wrong but from what I have seen he likes grinding out from the base line..if he does this he will fall into Murray hands.


Colin Says:

Tennis Freak, don’t set too much store by what a player says about someone who’s just beaten him. He’s not gonna say “He didn’t play well” because then he’s admitting he was worse.
Oh, and that accusation of Margot’s wasn’t too far off the mark. You pulled a not dissimilar stunt with me on another thread.


Duro Says:

Thanks Jane. The smaller one – even too strong!
About his “calm demeanor”, I don’t like it at all! He is passionate, he needs fire, no calmness is in his nature! He has it all, but his head… Damn Balkan mentality! Plus, he’s a Gemini in Zodiac, always two opposite persons in him, two faces. You can see him the minute he steps up on the court what is going to happen. So moody, so dual, so “face telling”! Brilliant intelligence, but so fainthearted some times, if it’s a right word. He’s on fire or he has no blood in his vain! I hate him because of it.


margot Says:

von: wow, wow!
jane: that shadow reference was for you, book 3 earthsea trilogy
tennisfreaks: are you playing mind games or what?? If you really really think I was “bullying” you, you must’ve led a very sheltered life.


jane Says:

Djoko thinks Haas has a chance against Fed; perhaps we can put as much stock in that as what Karlovic said? I think it’s tough to say. Clearly Fed’s the favorite, but anything can happen…

“Q. Do you think Tommy has any chance in the semifinal?

NOVAK DJOKOVIC: Yeah. I mean, look, it’s a semifinal. Tommy hasn’t lost still this year on this surface. He’s playing really well and he has nothing to lose against Roger, so of course he has chance.”


jane Says:

margot – shadow allusion – good one. Murray is casting a lovely shadow just now. :)


jane Says:

Oh Duro – sorry you feel so strongly. I do like Djoko’s passion but sometimes it’s hurt him in the past (he’s let his negativity get him off track more than once). Maybe he’s just transitioning right now?


Mahesh Says:

Continue your calling as it benefits people who are supporting the other set of people you are rooting for.


tennisbebe Says:

Hey Duro – how you be? So sorry about Novak but the way Haas has been playing, I (and others) gave him a 50/50 shot from the start. At least he got further than last year.

He should have a good chance during the North American HC season – with Rafa injured & Fed Jr. due soon, I’d be surprised if we see either of them in Canada or the states til the USO.


Tennisfan Says:

Maybe if Djok’s family went back home to work and his younger brother back to get some schooling he could get on with his own tennis life … alas they appear to have nothing else to do …


Dan Martin Says:

Djokovic had a nice event and a good Halle. His clay court season was really solid minus Paris. His quarter down under, title in Dubai and runner-up in Miami also give him a nice hard court record for 2009. A player cannot win every event, but Djokovic is playing well.


Duro Says:

Jane, It isn’t negativity at all, it was inexperience (which is normal at that age). It didn’t hurt his game, the media, audience did. He needs all of his passion back! Very bad time for transitioning anyway…
Tennisbebe, I was… I don’t know. Re tennis, exactly as Novak was playing. Proud of Madrid, though. About North American HC season I don’t won’t them to be absent! Why? He can beat them all. If not, this isn’t Novak I like. What to root for, for them not to be there? Not me. I feel sorry for Rafa so much. One honest warrior. Too many bad thing for him in the same time. I wish him all the best. He deserved it, as an athlete as well as a person.


jane Says:

I really though Djoko played well today and that’s why I am not crushed about his loss – sure, he played some key points nervously, but look at the stats:

First serve %: Djok 59% (not great)/ Tommy 64%
Doubles: Djok 4 / Tommy 7
Aces: Djok 12 / Tommy 18
UEs: Djok 24 / Tommy 32
Winners: Djok 47 / Tommy 49
Winning % on first serve: Djok 81 / Tommy 81
Winning % on 2nd serve: Djok 53 / Tommy 58
Receiving points won: Djok 27% / Tommy 31%
Break point conversions: Djok 100% (2 of 2)/ Tommy 60% (3 of5)
Net approaches: Djok 73% !!! / Tommy 63%
Total points won: Djok 120 / Tommy 128

As one can see by these stats, there wasn’t a lot separating these two. If Djoko had won that second set tiebreak and/or if he could’ve served a little more consistently, it could’ve been a different match complexion.

He needs to take away these positives and move on. I am particularly please with how well Novak did at the net today.


Ty Says:

Quote from Andy’s interview:

“I’m just going to pretend that when the crowd says Come on Andy! that they mean me.”

Brilliant.


Duro Says:

Jaaaaaane! Always too modest with the expectations! You expected almost every tournament him to reach quarters at most, I told you at least twice to see you in the finals, which actually happened. But, as we both agreed it is your nature. But have some more faith! The stats are not the problem. The problem is it was not his level, the game as well as the opponent (with all the respect to Hass). No excuses unless losses to Rafa, Fed and Murray. And only some times! Talent is there, class is there, knowledge is there, no excuses due to mentality and head. Only for those 3 thing if they weren’t there. But they are! So, I don’t wont to be satisfied because of some lousy statistic. In Madrid he had every element better then Rafa but he lost. But, this is the way to die.


blah Says:

Looks like it will be Federer v.s. Murray. They’ll probably both get through in 4 setters. Roddick needs to be more aggressive because Murray’s not going to make a lot of errors, and while it does look like Haas is having somewhat of a rebirth and may challenge, I think Federer will get through.

Also, the day after I pick Djokovic to win the whole thing, he loses. =| figures.


jane Says:

So what should he do Duro? What’s your solution? Suggest something. Does he need a new coach? Should he see a sports psychologist? Should he ban his family from his matches? What?!! When you left this site, I made ALL of those suggestions at one time or another but sheesh! What can a fan do but hope or give up? I choose to hope.


james t. kneegrow Says:

10-0 on grass this year is Tommy Haas.

Federer has all the pressure on him now.


Tennisfan Says:

They may have to send the Queen more cash so she can afford to attend the Final on Sunday :)

http://www.bristol247.com/2009/06/30/queen-needs-more-taxpayer-cash-for-royal-lifestyle

The winner better hope their cheque clears :}


Duro Says:

And about statistics, one moment he had 15% of the first serve return! It was embarrassing! Winners? Who dears to have more winners then Novak in a match, unless Fed, Tsonga maybe? Haas? Funny. Net approaches? 73% out of how many attempts? Haas made 9 times more approaches! So statistics sucks. There is a saying where I’m from: If you eat one day meat, another day cabbage, in average you ate “sarma” every day, which is very distinguished meal in this region. It only shows that statistics can lead to a wrong direction.


vared Says:

Jane, yeah,good interview he gave today.

Tennis fan:
Maybe if Djok’s family went back home to work and his younger brother back to get some schooling

What did his parents and brother do today to make him lose? I missed it.


Tennisfan Says:

Duro: Maybe they should get you on a tennis court I think you’d eat the Williams sisters for lunch …


Tennisfan Says:

Vared: “What did his parents and brother do today to make him lose? I missed it.”

… They showed up :)


grasscourtlover Says:

Ty, I thought the same thing of that quote and am a huge Roddick fan since he turned pro. I stuck with Andy through all the turmoil, the good times in 03′ and the bad beatings from Federer and never quit him. My fanship is not something I take lightly now I do like Bahgdatis, Gonzo, Tsonga, and Nadal. Since I am American I support Roddick more than others because I am a pratriot to my country and take it seriously as does my whole family. He can win this Wimbledon if Haas can take out Federer and Murray slips up with the pressure getting to him of a whole country’s sorrows and failures are riding on him since what? 1936 since a British male has won Wimbledon and Andy Roddick can win this with his experience in the big moments which he has an advantage over Murray. For Roddick to win he will serve 40 aces and win all the tiebreakers.


Duro Says:

Jane, he yelled at his coach today (some very nasty words were said!) Do I need to say more? Where is the authority there? Absolutely new approach to the job, new ideas and people, and a completely new self believe surrounding. Family is smaller problem, his head is his number one priority! Coach, authoritative, dominant one, head (with experts or not) and work work work along all the time!


Duro Says:

Tennisfan, being or just pretending stupid? Find someone else to discuss, ok? I’m suffering here too much so… Some other times, may be.


Tennis Freak Says:

Duro,
says: “Absolutely new approach to the job, new ideas and people, and a completely new self believe surrounding. Family is smaller problem, his head is his number one priority! Coach, authoritative, dominant one, head (with experts or not) and work work work along all the time!”

That’s exactly what I said above. He needs take a big bold step right NOW.


I like tennis bullies Says:

disappointing matches today
how in the world did the likes of ferrero get to the quarters
of course it would be murray to play such an easy opponent
djokovic looked like he’d rather be anywhere but playing wimbledon
haas in spite of himself did not choke to lose
hewitt blew it
roddick almost blew it
karlovic is the most one dimensional player in the history of tennis
federer does nothing special but wins anyway
the only way this could get interesting is if haas and roddick made the final
life is but a dream


Tennis Freak Says:

Duro,
Why is Nole playing a doubles with his brother Marko in Umag and an exhibition match during the first week of August, right before the Montreal Masters? Is he not awake yet? Does he know his priorities?
It is sad to see this kid not doing the right things.


Duro Says:

Tennis Freak, The family is like chains. He even played doubles because of Troicki ones, 12 hours before his final singles match, You can imagine what he would do for his brothers. His priorities is his coaches job! He is 22 and no one can expect from anyone to know everything it takes to secure a success. That’s what the coaches and the team are for! No, he doesn’t know yet his priorities! Thanks for asking. Your question impose all the answers he needs to become what he wants and what is expected from him.


Fedfan Says:

Dan Martin,

This was Djoke’s 14th loss of the year (or half year). And just two small titles – Dubai, and Belgrade (on home ground). 2 QF and 1 rd round in the 3 slams so far. Heck, Haas has had a better year than that!

So you really can’t say he has had a good year or is playing well, for someone who is ranked 3 or 4, and has won a slam last year, and is being talked about so much.


Fedfan Says:

I think Roddick will lose to Murray, just because Hewitt took so much out of him.

Reminds me of the 2002 US Open semis – Hewitt took so much out of Agassi, that he lost in 4 close sets to Sampras the next day, who had had a much easier time against Schalken. If Sampras had played Hewitt and Agassi had played Schalken, Federer would already be the sole owner of the grand slam record at 14.

So buckle up for Federer Murray. Federer wins that one – Murray is not a lefty, and not in Federer’s head the way Nadal was after the 2008 FO final. Fed’s losses to Murray have been much more close, and largely during his back problem slump late last year and early this year.


Fedfan Says:

The highest seed Murray has played so far in Wimbledon is Wawrinke (19), and Wawa almost beat him in 5 sets. Murray needs to beat Roddick and federer over one weekend on grass. Not going to happen. This is grass, not hard courts. Even there, a healthy Fed is too much for him.


vared Says:

Tennisfan Says:
Vared: “What did his parents and brother do today to make him lose? I missed it.”

… They showed up :)

Oh,they were there when he won AO too. ;-)


Gordo Says:

Two observations -

1) Where the heck is the Djoker’s passion these days? He almost seems resigned to losing once he drops behind. A rather lacklustre effort unfortunately.

2) Federer doesn’t just make the semifinals, he relishes them. Here is what happened in his last 6 semis at SW19, where he beat -

2003: Roddick, Andy (USA) 7-6(6) 6-3 6-3
2004: Grosjean, Sebastien (FRA) 6-2 6-3 7-6(6)
2005: Hewitt, Lleyton (AUS) 6-3 6-4 7-6(4)
2006: Bjorkman, Jonas (SWE) 6-2 6-0 6-2
2007: Gasquet, Richard (FRA) 7-5 6-3 6-4
2008: Safin, Marat (RUS) 6-3 7-6(3) 6-4

18 – 0 in sets, with no tiebreakers.

To not lose a single set in 6 successive Wimbledon semi-finals is amazing. I honestly will be surprised if he does not make it 7 straight.

We may be looking at a history-making Sunday. The Queen will be there as Andy Murray becomes the first Brit in over 70 years to play for the mens’ title. If he were to win it imagine the joy in the UK!

However, if Federer is on the other side of the net he will have his own first that he will be looking at – a record number of Grand Slam titles and a record number of Grand Slam final appearances.

And the added ranking pressure – if Federer wins on Sunday he regains the world #1 ranking from Nadal. If Murray wins he noses ahead of Federer for #2, dropping Fed to #3. Nadal would still be number one, but only just.

In my opinion I think the chances of Haas and Roddick have of spoiling the above party is: Haas – 15% | Roddick – 45%

Friday will be interesting!


Duro Says:

Fedfan, My apologies for answering to someone’s else question, but I need to before going to bad. I agree with you that this was not the good year for him at all, but only because I am his fan and I want always more and more from him and I am never satisfied. But, I can say that. You, the Fed fan, I’m not so sure. First of all, he won more matches this year then anybody on the tour! Second of all, he was in 6 finals this year, 3 consecutive masters finals (Miami, Monte Carlo, Rome) further on, semis in Madrid, Marseilles, then he made to the third round in Paris, not first, then some unforgettable matches (Monte Carlo and Madrid), and finally, he was involved in more semifinals and finals then most of the guys. So, yes, it wasn’t a good year from my and other Novak’s fans perspective, but must be respected from anyone else.


Fedfan Says:

Well, losing 14 matches in the first 6 months and not going beyond the QF in the slams is not really a good year for him. As I said, Haas has had a better year.

As for his high number of match wins? He has just played too many tournaments. In 16 tournaments he has won 47 matches (about 3 per tournament). That’s not really very good. If you play week in and week out, you will win more matches, it doesn’t mean much. Its like Davydenko.


vared Says:

Dan wasn’t he runner up in rome too?


vared Says:

Sorry Dan, Duro mentioned it, I didn’t refresh page.


vared Says:

Regarding yelling at his coach. Murray did that all the time to Gilbert and I still see him occasionally griping at his box now. Maybe this is abnormal for Djok to do it to Vajda?


Tennis Freak Says:

Fedfan,
I agree Fed will molest the Scott, tear his skin off, snap off his parts, hack him to pieces, leave him unconscious for days, and the trauma of Fed’s beating will damage his brain cells for life. It will be done by one special weapon: Wilson K Factor KPro Staff 88 with the following specifications: Head Size 88 sq. in.; length 27 in.; strung wt. 12.8 ounces; Balance 6 pts. head light; Beam Width 17 mm; Swingweight 385; String Pattern:16 Mains / 19 Crosses; Stiffness: 67 (RA). Movement, pace, power, sound will be the craft of this execution: a tiny, fluffy yellow ball swishing invisibly in super-sonic speed to impale the noise of the Noise.
When done, the Scott will rot in some moratorium or cemetery, repenting why he reached this final. The Fred Perry outfit will be witch-cackling at him from the wall of the moratorium.
Wait till Sunday to witness this sentence.


jane Says:

I hope it’s a competitive final. No matter who’s in it. Tennis fans – fans of not only one player, that is – generally don’t want to see routs, do they? They want to see great tennis matches. Thrillers like Haas /Cilic or Hewitt/ Roddick.

I am no Fed fan, but even I was bored out of my tree and disappointed with the FO 2008 final. Yawn. Similarly, I can recognize when Fed’s playing well, as I did earlier today giving him kudos, and I can even congratulate him when he wins. Gee – why not? He played a good match and deserved to win.

I find it disconcerting to read a post like yours Tennis Freak – the violence is, um, overkill and the smugness is uncalled for. What does one get out of being like that?

Murray has handled the pressure of a nation, so far, with aplomb, using it not to deter him but to uplift him. His tennis has been fine, and he played much more aggressively in his last set against JCF. If he gets to the final, I am hoping he will continue in this way.


sensationalsafin Says:

I’m pretty sure Federer uses a 90 sq in headsize.


jane Says:

Tennis Freak, I’ve looked at a number of tennis blogs on the internet, and almost all of them are overloaded with Federer fans, who would do almost anything for him to keep on winning everything in sight (some announce they will cry if he loses, or will stop watching tennis, etc). Most of the writings on these blogs and websites (e.g. Tennis Planet, Bodo’s blog, etc) are very much centered around Federer. That’s okay; he deserves a large fan-base considering his exceptional qualities and accomplishments. The reality is this: you’re much more like a “Tennis Normal” than a “Tennis Freak”. Fans of Fed, esp. very ardent ones, are the norm in tennis these days, and have been for years.

This reason why I post here and that I like this dysfunctional website is that there is a slightly more varied and knowledgeable fan-based, which is a little more inviting to those of us who are really anomalies, or “freaks”, as the case may be.


Tennis Freak Says:

Federer inhabits Slam finals, esp. Sw19 and US Open: They are his most natural habitat. In all the Slam finals he has played, he screwed up only this year’s AO: He was in a winning position, even though AO has never been his home turf like SW19 and USO. We have already seen the non-effect of H2H, in both Rafa’s case (in his first 3 encounters at SW19: I’d not attribute last year’s loss to H2H effects) and Murray’s in the last year’s US Open (which I elaborated in my post a couple of days ago).
Historically, grinders and counter-punchers, with a very few exceptions like Rafa or Agassi, have not fared well on grass. Those who can play short, smart points have advantage on this surface. With reference to this, Fed said, “I like to play short points…I don’t mind playing one‑, two‑shot rallies…I think especially on grass, all my strength, you know, becomes even better. I become so much more dangerous.”

Fed moves better on grass; he has a great feel of the ball on this surface; he has natural instinct for the bad bounce typical of grass. Like Fed said, you cannot learn the art of grass because there ain’t many tournaments to practice. I take him at his word : “Maybe I move better than many players on grass, as well. Obviously, I have a lot of experience, as well. [But] I think grass is a surface you can’t maybe learn to play on so much and you don’t get an opportunity that often, and that’s why I think it’s maybe one of the reasons why it’s so hard to beat me” (from today’s interview).


Tennis Freak Says:

sensationalsafin Says: “I’m pretty sure Federer uses a 90 sq in headsize.”

Thanks for correction. You are right. The one I accidentally gave was Sampras.’

Correction in Fed’s racket Wilson K Factor KSix-One Tour 90: Head Size 90 sq. in.; Length 27 inches; Strung Weight 12.5 oz; Balance 9pts Head Light; Swingweight: 336; Stiffness 67; Beam Width 18 mm; String Pattern
16 Mains / 19 Crosses; String Tension 50-60 pounds.


sensationalsafin Says:

Agassi wasn’t a counter puncher. And Murray isn’t JUST a counter puncher. He’s like Fed, a blend of all styles. Only Murray naturally enjoys counter punching whereas Federer naturally enjoys attacking. Counter punchers have always troubled Fed, though. Murray’s no exception. But Murray has become much more than just a counter puncher in the last year or so. And on grass, Murray has been playing amazing. He serves big when he needs to and breaks at will. It’s just impossible for Federer to destroy Murray. Impossible. Should the 2 meet in the finals, it’ll be tight. Murray has the edge in H2H and his style troubles Fed. But Fed has the edge in experience and I still think he’s above and beyond everyone on grass. So a match in the final will be 50/50. And I hope it’s tight. Really tight. I want a nail-biter. I’ll be rooting for Federer because I want him to regain number 1, I don’t want him to drop to 3, and I want him to turn his H2H against Murray around. But if Murray wins, I wouldn’t be too upset. He’s a great player and he needs to get over that first slam hurdle.


jane Says:

Don’t you hate when you get those pistachio nuts that won’t open? You know there’s something good inside there but you can’t get it. That’s how I feel about Djokovic lately. He’s one of those pistachio nuts that won’t open.

sensationalsafin – excellent post. I like the way you compare Fed and Murray as “naturally” one thing over the other but as possessing both abilities. And I agree. Moreover, it’s nice that you can appreciate Murray’s talent. Cheers. p.s. I hope you’re enjoying your time off from school.


sensationalsafin Says:

Thanks jane, I wish I was enjoying my time off but I have a shitty job.

I’ve always liked Murray. But I just can’t seem to root against Federer. I thought I was done after the French but here I am holding my breath for every match he plays. Honestly though, I just hope it’s a tight match no matter who plays the finals. And I hope the the Roddick-Murray match is tight, too. As for Haas-Federer, I want Federer to wipe the floor with him. Not like 2 0 and 2 like he did to Bjorkman. More like today’s match against Ivo. Why would I want Haas to suffer? Because I think he’s overhyped just like Ivo was. Everyone was saying Ivo was serving so huge and he would SURELY take Federer to atleast 4 sets. No such luck. Not even close. Same with Haas. People talk about the FO match and Haas’s recent success. I don’t wanna take anything away from the guy I just want Federer to put him back in his place and remind everyone who’s who and what’s what.

As for Roddick and Murray. I really think Roddick’s win over Hewitt might give him that emotional boost to maybe even win the whole thing. If not that then I think it should atleast boost his confidence against Murray. Murray’s game matches up too well against Roddick’s but I think Roddick’s gonna dig deep and fight his heart out. And I don’t even care who wins because either one is going to take it to Federer (assuming he beats Haas). Normally I’d count Roddick out but he knows this is one of his best chances to win a slam and if he goes down, he’s gonna go down swinging. Murray’s also gonna dig deep for different reasons. Everyone talks about the history and the UK putting pressure on Murray and all, but that’s not why Murray wants to win. Obviously he wants his first slam, but where better to do it than at Wimbledon. Wimbledon, where Federer has dominated the last few years, where Nadal pushed himself harder than ever before to dethrone Federer, where so many legends have had such great success. It’d be such a huge statement in so many ways. And I don’t think the moment will get to him as much if he makes the finals. He’s very tough mentally and he’s gonna give it his all, too.

I just read Federer’s interview after today’s match and his cockiness seems to be at an all time high. He feels unbeatable on grass and he’s not hiding this feeling. We all know what Federer’s capable of. And I don’t expect him to hold back no matter who he plays. What I said about Federer putting Haas in his place, I think, Federer wants to actaully do more than I want him to do it. Federer’s the type to get annoyed at those questions about the 2 sets to love down thing. He’s going to want to show everyone Haas isn’t anywhere near him. Should he get through: If it’s Roddick, you know Roddick’s going to be riding a wave of emotion. Federer’s going to want to remind everyone HE’S number 1 and Roddick is as far from him as ever, just like the rest of the field. If it’s Murray, revenge, payback, clarification of who’s the best, etc. Same thing as Roddick pretty much plus a huge dosing of REVENGE.

No matter the match ups, I don’t see anyone going down without giving it their all. Haas wants to salvage his injury-plagued career. Roddick wants to win that second slam and prove himself. Murray wants to win that first slam and prove himself. And Federer wants to control the world. After what’s happened at these last 2 slams, anything’s possible. Good luck to all the players, and let’s go Federer!!


TennisFan Says:

I don’t know Jane, TF may be a little over the top at times,, but he seems pretty knowledgeable when it comes to tennis. Every one is entitled to their opinion, and your somewhat dogmatic support of players like Djok can be better balanced by others that don’t see it your way. Personally, I think your secretly into bad boys. ;)


jane Says:

I agree – Tennis Freak is very knowledgeable. I like his posts. I am only saying he’s more “normal” than “freaky” as far as alliances go. Likewise in the dogmatic supporters of Federer, of which there are WAY more than other players – they can be balanced by us anomalies too. Everyone is entitled, as you note.

I am not secretly into bad boys. Who said anything about secrets? I am up front about it. Bad boys are much more fun.


Von Says:

TF: “The Fred Perry outfit will be witch-cackling at him from the wall of the moratorium.”

How about if we place a moratorium on the dissection and/or resection of Murray by Federer? BTW, you mean ‘mortuary’ and NOT ‘moratorium’ don’t ya?


TennisFan Says:

Interesting comments SS, but I disagree with your assessment of Haas’s game … he’s been playing exceptionally well as of late , and the only person beating him has been Fed. Sad they will meet next because I truly believe that Hass could take out both Roddick or Murray, but of course he faces Fed who I too believe will win, but it will be a better match than you think!


grasscourtlover Says:

Tennisfan-

Duro could eat the Williams sisters but it would’nt be on the tennis court. LMFAO!!!!


grasscourtlover Says:

Jane-

I agree with you about Federer fans. It’s easy to jump on board a winner but too stick with Andy Roddick as my favorite player takes great courage and dedication that is beyond the level of other fans. Nadal fans jumped ship to Federer when Soderling upset the King of Clay in case you did’nt notice.


Tennis Freak Says:

Jane,
First, I did not portray Murray as a bad player or criticize him for his skills. It was a one-sided picture of a player I like. I only tried to say, in not-so nice language, what Fed could do. I did not say he’d win in straight set or I like a blow out final. Like you, I don’t want to see another 2008 FO final, either. I said this somewhere, for Murray to get my admiration for his efforts (not style), he’s to earn, win a few Slams, say Sw19 and USO this year.

Second, I did not intentionally write to “disconcert” you. You were not in my mind when I wrote that post.

Third and core part: When those views with which you agree because they support the same player use a similar language, in varying degree of intensity and modes (e.g. my own post on Berdych butchering Roddick; then, a poster’s portrayal of MJ as “repulsively bizarre” “sick” person, to counter the facts of Murray mania; or a few others’ rampant sexism against equal pay in another thread; or views upholding old posters’ nativism) you give them a clean pass, despite they are detrimental to sociability in general and raise them to the pedestal of knowledgeability. And those that you don’t agree with, the ignorant or less knowledgeable ones, no matter what Gothic or romantic metaphors they use, they are called out (maybe for censorship?). Your response to me does not look like it is coming from a mere distaste for slasher flicks in general or social injustice. It does not look fare to me. This is a place where your stance on honesty could be valuable, honesty to your values (you call yourself a social democrat).

I admit that was one freakish post, even to my taste, but my slash-flick response came at a time when I was unhappy with a couple of posters.

That is not the type of posts I want to thrive upon (even though there have been 1-2 glitches out of what 50-100?) and I’d like to refrain from going in that direction in the future, if others, esp. you, help create a conducive environment for everyone’s rights to difference and social justice even if it involves your knowledgeable “friends.”
The problem is if I sound soft, the same group of people, like this afternoon, will laugh at me, instead of seeing virtue in that softness. What do you want me to do?


Von Says:

SS: “Everyone was saying Ivo was serving so huge and he would SURELY take Federer to atleast 4 sets. No such luck.. ”

Not everyone, I didn’t. I thought the concern and anguish was unnecessary, and I knew Federer would beat Dr. Ivo on return of serves, which he did.

So you got a ‘shitty’ job in this economy? Mazel Tov! It’s better than sitting around doing nothing. Hope to see you around more often.


jane Says:

Actually, TF, I thought Von’s analysis of MJ’s stuckness in childhood was excellent and sensitive, but I refrained from comment. Instead, I merely joined the music lovers discussion. I love horror movies too, though not so much the latest “torture porn” trend. Anyhow, it’s not that so much, it’s more you smugly declaring Fed’s “slaughter” of him that I took issue with, especially when you declared a few days ago that your m.o. was really to see competitive tennis. That’s not what your post implied, no matter what you stated outright.

What rampant sexism? I guess I missed that. But wasn’t it me who was defending women’s tennis? Posting on the women’s threads and commenting on their abilities and matches? Not many were, I’ll tell you. And bringing up the “babes on center court” point? Wasn’t that moi?

You know, you remind me of a guy who used to post here (his name was Shital Green), who was a Djoko supporter, and a lovely guy, but that’s besides the point. When you showed up, because of the resemblance, I took an instant liking to you for your intelligence and controversial style.

I don’t want to argue with you but I will stick up for the players I like when they are “slashed”.

I don’t understand who would laugh at your softness either. I think people, for the most part (there will always be exceptions), want to have reasonable discussions. Disagreements will happen but they needn’t get out of hand.

Anyhow, I am sorry if I offended you or if I haven’t championed each issue I should have; sometimes I scroll quickly and selectively through the posts without reading each and every one.


jane Says:

Addendum to TF: if you want to see a good horror film, I mean, if you’re in the mood, be sure to see the Swedish vampire flick directed by Tomas Alfredson: “Låt den rätte komma in” – it’s brilliant.


Tennis Freak Says:

Jane,
(1) Para1 1: I was not referring to Von’s post. It was Colin’s post that portrayed MJ as “repulsively bizarre” “sick” person (those are his words). What you took issue with was acceptable, but it would be fairer if you did the same with others in similar instances.
(2) Para 2: There was a whole thread in which most posters were laughing at woman’s equal pay. You posted one, but whole sexism thing happened afterward.
(3) Para 3: Thanks I remind you of some “lovely guy” from the past. I am flattered. Maybe he was likable simply because he supported the same player you support, and his “intelligence” was bonus to that. So I cannot be the bonus cuz the paycheck is missing in me: We follow different players. Who knows Murray may impress me in the near future? Hope he does.
(4) Para 1: I don’t always express “my” views. You may have noticed that. At different instances, I write for different reasons.
(5) Para 4: So you will stick up for your players’ fans (stress on fans) against your values? Is that really you?
(6) Para 5: “laugh”: margot did after we put a period to that topic of looks.
(7) Para 6: I am not offended. I just thought that would be better for the world.
Sorry for “disconcerting” you.
Are we good, then?


jane Says:

Yeah, it’s all good Tennis Freak. Remember “Let the Right One In”, it’s really well done. See ya.


sensationalsafin Says:

Von, I’m always around. I read the blogs and comments on here every day, all the time. I just don’t comment as much as I used to. No point in saying the same thing over and over again.

Tennis Fan, perhaps if Haas and Roddick played, Haas would since he’s had Andy’s number in the past. But I doubt he’d beat Murray. Murray loves an attacker. For him, Haas would just be a target.

I’m not saying it won’t be close between Fed and Haas, I just don’t think Haas is that close to Fed. People just need to peg someone as Fed’s challenger or rival, with Nadal out (seriously, did we travel back in time). But it’s not Haas.


tenisbebe Says:

Wasn’t it ’06 when Haas took Fed to 5 sets at AO when no one else could get a set off him?


Tennis Freak Says:

Jane,
First line: “Squeal like a pig.”
I have found it.


tenisbebe Says:

Jane – I remember Shital Green. Wonder where he’s gone to…


sensationalsafin Says:

06? Federer was stretched to 5 by Haas, 4 by Davydenko, 4 by Kiefer, 4 by Baghdatis. Who COULDN’T take a set off Federer in that tourny?


sar Says:

tenisbebe;
I am on facebook with him. I will put in a request to get him back here.


sensationalsafin Says:

Couple words of praise for Federer :)

First, the Rolex commercial with him in the suit. No one but Roger Federer can look so elegant while hitting a forehand in a suit. I want that suit. I wish I was rich.

Second, everyone’s got favorite sports and players and hobbies, etc etc. But one thing that’s just so amazing about Federer is that he accomplished almost everything he could possibly do in his chosen career. That’s just so hard to grasp for me. At 27 years old, Federer’s career is complete. Tennis, golf, computers, writing, anything. All these careers so many people have yet how many people can say they “completed” their careers. It’s just amazing.

But still, I love that Rolex commercial.


margot Says:

sensationalsafin: great posts, very balanced for a Fed fan! Really wanted TMF to get RG and the set, but now ………..oh please. Whoever plays Fed just play the match.


Gordo Says:

Jane – did you read the book the Swedish vampire film was based on? It is also excellent.


Federer - The God of Tennis Says:

from an article in ” The Hindu”

Karlovic’s serves seem to have been hit from on top of the new centre court roof. Going into Wednesday’s match, the Croatian giant had not been broken even once in the 79 service games he has needed to advance to his first Grand Slam quarterfinal.

As Karlovic goes through his service motion, you look up in the skies for any low flying aircraft that might be under threat. And on bouncing, the ball’s climb is so steep that you feel sorry for his opponent — unless, of course, the man across the net from Karlovic happens to be Federer.

A lesson

If the four men who had failed to break Karlovic’s serve in this championship had been watching, the fourth game of the first set might have come as a lesson to them. But then, there is no question of learning from Federer because what the great man does is not something that can be taught — something that can be seen and then imitated.

The five-time champion makes the inimitable routine. First came a backhand return that flew off the fully stretched Karlovic’s racquet. That takes some doing because this is the man (6ft, 10in) with the biggest wingspan in the sport.

Then came a forehand return which the Croat had as much chance of dealing with as perhaps anyone in the crowd.

Taking control

Before the match had so much as begun, Karlovic had been put in his place. When someone who serves like the Croat is broken so early in the match, it is a sort of emasculating process — the psychological hurt is much more than the loss of a single service game.

Karlovic promptly responded by putting on his sun-glasses, suggesting that the strong sunshine might have had something to with the loss of the service game for the first time in 10 days.

But the heat and glare might have come from Federer’s red-hot racquet instead as the Swiss went about the job of dismantling the tall man’s game.

Karlovic hit 23 aces to Federer’s seven but what made all the difference was quality of the five-time champion’s returns and passing shots. They were breathtaking to watch, but for Karlovic withering to face.

McEnroe’s patented shot

In the second set, Karlovic hung in there for a while but the great man broke to 6-5 with a delightful backhand half-volley that used to be one of John McEnroe’s patented shots in the 1980s — the one that is plucked off the turf as if by magic and sails low over the net out of the reach of the opponent.

By now Karlovic might have already been thinking about the tournament office and the quarterfinalist’s cheque — the biggest of his career. Yet, the Croat went about his business like a true professional before Federer raced home in the tiebreak.

“Mentally it was hard. It is not easy to break him,” said Federer. “Once you are in this kind of situation (semifinals) you try to win the tournament.”

Hey Pete, are you listening? Two more matches to go.


Federer - The God of Tennis Says:

This is the 4th time in 5 slams that Roger has made the semis and Djokovic has failed to keep the date. Nadal and Djokovic fans need to stop accusing Roger of easy draws as Roger does his job. He beat everyone who turns up except Nadal on a fairly regular basis.

It is official – Federer is the Superman of Tennis and Nadal his kryptonite :) Will kryptonite destroy Superman or self-combust? :)


tenisbebe Says:

SS – Then I remembered wrong on ’06 AO, hence the question mark. Thanks.


Skorocel Says:

Fedfan: „Fed’s losses to Murray have been much more close, and largely during his back problem slump late last year and early this year.“

So by your definition, as long as Fed is losing, he is suffering from back problems, but as soon as he starts winning, everything’s OK? LOL! The truth is, Fed got LEGITIMATELY beaten 4 times in a row by the Scot, so better get over it and root for our fave tomorrow!


Fedfan Says:

Skorocel,

Perhaps you didn’t notice that Fed withdrew from Paris last year (he was to play blake) due to his back problem. Then he was treated a few times on court in Shanghai in his match against Murray. Do you not find that loss largely due to his injury? really, that’s funny.

Whether he is over his back problem or not completely, I guess we will know. I never said “everything is OK” with his back now.

The fact is that you have to be more analytical while looking at ANYTHING. Just superficially looking at one number produces distortions.


Fedfan Says:

I am actually looking forward to Fed-Murray. I think that will set the record straight. Murray on grass is not Nadal on clay.


Fedfan Says:

Skorocel,

blindly looking at numbers is simply that – blindly looking at numbers


Tennis Freak Says:

I watched it last night. “Let the Right One In” was brilliant, Jane. Nicely done work. Graphic details could have been bolder, esp. at the last pool scene. Wish it had a prequel, to provide a background to Illie and her father’s past, but that would take off the slasher flavor (meaningless killings), and if they make a sequel, I would not miss. The Illie-Oskar “steady” was special. Thanks.


jane Says:

Gordo, no, but I will definitely seek out the book also.

Tennis Freak, I am so happy you enjoyed it. I don’t know if Håkan was her father, even though she calls him her “Papa” when she’s trying to see him in the hospital. It’s possible that he was another boy like Oskar, whom she made into her keeper when he was Oskar’s age? (I guess the book might fill in more back story?) But he seems too old to keep up the with the serial killings, and thus he has to go; he’s of no more use. It’s interesting how one can interpret the film’s denouement as both sweet, in that Oskar has finally found love and support or creepy in that he will now be a vampire’s killer until he dies, and he has no idea what he’s just gotten into. Innocence lost.


Fedfan Says:

Murray has won 10 matches on grass this year, in a row. Who is the highest ranked player he has beaten? Blake (16). Next is Wawrinka (19). Lets see how he does against a real grass court player ranked no 6.


huh Says:

sensationalsafin Says:
“Agassi wasn’t a counter puncher. And Murray isn’t JUST a counter puncher. He’s like Fed, a blend of all styles. Only Murray naturally enjoys counter punching whereas Federer naturally enjoys attacking. Counter punchers have always troubled Fed, though. Murray’s no exception. But Murray has become much more than just a counter puncher in the last year or so. And on grass, Murray has been playing amazing. He serves big when he needs to and breaks at will. It’s just impossible for Federer to destroy Murray. Impossible. Should the 2 meet in the finals, it’ll be tight. Murray has the edge in H2H and his style troubles Fed. But Fed has the edge in experience and I still think he’s above and beyond everyone on grass. So a match in the final will be 50/50. And I hope it’s tight. Really tight. I want a nail-biter. I’ll be rooting for Federer because I want him to regain number 1, I don’t want him to drop to 3, and I want him to turn his H2H against Murray around. But if Murray wins, I wouldn’t be too upset. He’s a great player and he needs to get over that first slam hurdle.”

Actually the truth is, Murray’s an exceptional talent with all the weapons at his disposal to beat anybody and anyday. Murray has every shot, the way he switches from defense to offense is unbelievable, it’s almost like Fed. Murray’s the BEST backhand among the current ones and if he serves as well as he’s actually capable of, then it would be extremely tough to beat him. Murray’s forehand is also a clever shot and he knows how and when to use it and it ain’t weak either. Murray, like Fed or Rafa can also hit outrageous shots and he refuses to accept defeat without a fight. He has no fear of Fed or Rafa and it’s justified when you see how complete a player Murray really’s. And trust me all the Murray unfaithfuls, if Fed and Murray reach the final and clash with each other at their level best, it’d outshine all the Fed-Rafa epics. And whether you notice it or not, Fed has a lot of respect for Murray’s game and he knows that he can be beaten by Murray in Wimbledon as much as he can beat him.


jane Says:

good post on Murray huh! I am often amazed by Murray’s shots on the run in particular. He seems to have a mental map of the court in his head, and much like Rafa that way, he can hit a winner from almost anywhere and sometimes while not even looking! He has also shown so much gumption dealing with the pressure he has on him in Britain. In fact, he’s embraced it. It has to be tough for the guys who play slams at “home” with the added presssure for them. Like the Americans at the USO for example. But with Britain, because of the extra-long drought, the pressure is immense.


Skorocel Says:

Fedfan: Okay. Say the loss in Shanghai was affected by the sore back… I saw that match in its entirety, and Fed looked indeed a bit stiff (receiving some treatment in the final set). But what about Doha & IW? Did Fed have a sore back here as well? Could be it, but as far as I know, he was running like a rabbit during the AO ;-) The fact is, Murray beat him there fair and square, and I strongly doubt it was because of a sore back (the same for Madrid 2008)… Granted, all those matches (including the one in Shanghai) went the distance, but whereas in Madrid and Shanghai it was close, in Doha and IW it was a more or less a blowout (6-2 and 6-1, respectively)…

P.S. I too look forward to a possible Fed vs Murray final, as it will definitely clarify some things…


Fedfan Says:

Yes, IW was a bad loss for Federer – he was really going thru a slump after the AO loss to Nadal. That was not Federer anywhere near his peak, or anywhere near he is right now. He has a lot more confidence and a lot less pressure after the FO. Yes, Murray did beat Fed fair and square at IW – but is the Fed of today the same as the one playing in IW? He was playing horribly on hard courts, so much so that he was looking forward to clay! And hard courts is definitely Murray’s favorite surface.

This time it would be different. Its Federer’s favorite surface, and Federer on a 18 match win streak (if he reaches the final).

As I had said earlier, Blake and Wawrinka are the best players Murray has faced on grass this year. Really not much. Too much hype.

And Murray still needs to develop his all round game better – is he is so good, then why is his game still lacking so much on clay? This is especially striking since he normally plays way back. He certainly has the potential, but is not there yet.

And remember, Murray has a losing record to Nadal OUTSIDE of clay (2-5). So he does have some distance to go.


MMT Says:

Does anyone on tour have a winning record against Nadal?


Skorocel Says:

Fedfan: I agree that Fed was playing below par in Miami & IW, but for me it just makes no sense to “divide” those 6 losses which he suffered to Murray to “slump era”, “sore back era”, “tiredness era”, “mono era”, etc. Sometimes, an opponent’s injury can actually backfire (the match between Lendl and Chang at FO 89 being perhaps the biggest example)… The point is, it’s not Murray’s fault that Fed was injured, played in a slump, etc. The truth is, even an injured Fed is a difficult Fed to beat – just look at the Shanghai 2005 TMC finals!

I mean, it’s the same as if someone had said that Fed beat Murray in the USO 2008 final only (or mainly) because the Scot was too tired after his semifinal against Nadal, but that’s a TOTAL BULLSH.T, since everyone knows the real reason why the Scot lost that match was because Fed was in the zone pretty much throughout the whole match, NOT because he was tired…

Anyway, as I’ve already said, I’m looking forward to their (possible) final encounter, as it will certainly answer many questions! For now, though, it’s A-Rod and Haas first…


Fedfan Says:

Nalbandian does – 2-1 H2H against Nadal. Was almost 3-0 if he hadn’t missed that one shot at IW.

Blake is 3-2 on Nadal. I am sure there are others.

Nadal just wins EVERYTHING on clay, and doesn’t face the other players as much on other surfaces, so its tough for anyone to have a favorable H2H against him overall.

Look at his record against Federer – 9-2 on clay, 4-5 otherwise.

Other players play the majority of their matches on hard courts. Nadal plays a hefty fraction on clay, and wins them all. Then doesn’t play as many on hard courts.

Look at djokovic. Nadal is 14-4 on him. Looks so lopsided. Until you realize – Nadal is 9-0 on him on clay, and 5-4 otherwise. Here again, his dominance is purely a clay thing.

Against Murray its a bit different. Nadal is 7-2 on Murray, but 5-2 outside of clay. So he does dominate Murray even outside of clay.

That’s what I have been saying – need to look at the numbers a bit more deeply, to understand what exactly is driving them.


Skorocel Says:

“Does anyone on tour have a winning record against Nadal?”

Yep, it’s our Dominik Hrbaty! The guy’s 3-1 vs Nadal, and also 2-1 vs Fed. Too bad he only cares about these 2 guys :-)


Fedfan Says:

Not dividing any losses. Just saying that you need to look at them with more depth. Just a simple ratio (14-4, 13-7, or 6-2) can be very misleading. Looking at them blindly makes you miss the forest for the trees.


Fedfan Says:

As for an injured fed being difficult to beat (TMC Shanghai final as the example) – that was Fed at his prime. 2007 onwards, Fed was 26, and a bit past him prime. Now he can’t win against these guys who are 5-6 years younger unless he is 100%.


Fedfan Says:

And Hrbaty’s lone loss to Nadal was also on clay!


huh Says:

Skorocel Says:
““Does anyone on tour have a winning record against Nadal?”

Yep, it’s our Dominik Hrbaty! The guy’s 3-1 vs Nadal, and also 2-1 vs Fed. Too bad he only cares about these 2 guys :-)”

LOL!


huh Says:

Fedfan Says:
“As for an injured fed being difficult to beat (TMC Shanghai final as the example) – that was Fed at his prime. 2007 onwards, Fed was 26, and a bit past him prime. Now he can’t win against these guys who are 5-6 years younger unless he is 100%.”

A good point I’ve to say.


MMT Says:

Okay Huh – you get an A for your knowledge, but I have to point out that 2 losses were before Nadal won a slam, and the third was a retirement, but I stand corrected.

One of his victories over Federer was in 2000, but the other was in 2004 when Federer was already #1 and in between victories in Wimbledon and the US Open.

Good on ye.

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