Federer, Djokovic Meet for Cincinnati Tennis Masters Title Sunday
by Sean Randall | August 23rd, 2009, 12:24 am
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Well, that was a surprising day. I had picked both Andy Murray and Rafael Nadal to win in straight sets at the Cincinnati Masters semifinals today, and what happens? Naturally both Roger Federer and Novak Djokovic come out ahead, and they do it in straight sets!

In my mind, the bigger surprise was Djokovic’s 6-1, 6-4 win over Rafa. After a pretty poor, listless past few months the Serb really stepped up tonight playing solid tennis. And perhaps it was his best level since his last encounter with Nadal back in Madrid. Nadal may or may not have been at his best (plus a stomach ailment?), but credit to Djokovic for getting a match he absolutely had to have.

And this win for Novak really keeps him among the serious contenders at the US Open. For Rafa, no real cause for panic – unless there’s more to that stomach issue – as the Spaniard can take some comfort in knowing that he simply hasn’t played that much tennis recently and he did get a couple nice wins this week. But there still are question marks as to his ability to beat the big hitters on a fast hardcourt and his durability.

Showing no question marks this afternoon was Federer. Roger really picked apart Murray fairly routinely 6-2, 7-6(8). Sure things got a little dicey in the second set breaker, but Federer was hardly pressed up to that point by Murray who was bidding for a fifth straight win over the World No. 1.

Federer looked fairly sharp off the ground and really attacked Murray, which seems to be accepted M.O. against Andy. Recall Andy Roddick really took it to Murray at Wimbledon and even Fernando Verdasco went after him with positive results at the Australian Open.

For me, this loss by Murray is not a good sign. I picked him to win the Australian Open last year and again to win the US Open later that season, but I’m starting to sense that for him to break through he’s going to have to play more offensive minded. He can’t play such a passive game and regularly beat the big guys, especially in majors. And I’m not convinced of his nerves in pressure matches and moments – we saw him grossly err in that challenge in the tiebreak!

Today, Murray was favored probably for the first time in his career to beat Federer and he couldn’t answer the bell. It’s much easier to play as the underdog and I think Murray is starting to feel the heat the comes when your ranking rises and you win a lot of matches. At least with Nadal losing Murray has secured the No. 2 seeding for the Open meaning a Federer-Murray rematch could only happen in the final.

For Sunday, I think both Federer and Djokovic will sleep well tonight following wins over guys they had trouble with in the past. So I expect both to be loose and fresh for Sunday. Head-to-head Federer leads 7-4, but Novak’s won two straight beating Roger in Miami and again on the clay in Rome. I think Sunday Roger gets him back.

Again, there’s very little pressure on Roger and I feel in a tournament final he’ll handle the occasion better than Novak. But it’s a close contest.


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261 Comments for Federer, Djokovic Meet for Cincinnati Tennis Masters Title Sunday

Bojan Says:

Glad you chose Roger, that means Novak wins :P :)
I hope it’ll be a good match.


stu Says:

What a refreshingly unexpected final! If I were to base my prediction on the last 2 finals these guys played against each other, I’d pick Djokovic. He won Montreal 07 and lost USO 07 (as opposed to Federer winning it). Having said that, Djokovic in 07 was a different animal. I would love for him to beat Federer before the USO, but I worry that that might make him overconfident for the major. Federer’s tired of falling short compared to the new guys. I say Federer in 2.


Twocents Says:

Djok in 3.


steve Says:

In those matches where Federer lost to Murray, Federer was bleeding break points all over the court and he was always having to work hard just to hold serve. This time the only person bleeding (literally) was Murray, after he punched his racket strings.

Murray really doesn’t handle being attacked very well. He’s used to frustrating his opponents with his tricky style and getting lots of opportunities on their serve, while holding serve comfortably himself.

This time it was reversed–it was Federer who held serve easily, and Murray who had to come up with great shots just to stay in the match. And eventually the pressure was too much for him–he screwed up the challenge in the tiebreak and then double-faulted on match point.

He does not have Nadal’s iron mental strength, that’s for sure, so it’ll be very difficult for him to win a major. But he will remain the champ of best-of-three hardcourt matches. At least until more players start figuring him out.


tenisbebe Says:

Well – this tourney has been fantastic from an on-the spot observer. Was hoping for a Rafa/Fed final from a tournament point of view but am ecstatic that we have Djoko/Fed. If Novak can lift his level from the Nadal match, he has a good shot at beating Fed. GO NOLE!

A side note: in the dark of night after the Bryan Bros came back from the dead to win their match (very exciting), ran into a group of 10 ballkids taking a pizza break on one of my circumventurous routes through the property. We chatted for a while about JB & Youzney’s screaming ballkid moments & when taking about Fed/Murray I mentioned that Andy looked tired – they chimed in “They’re all tired!” but before I had a chance to have them elaborate they had to disburse.


tenisbebe Says:

Sean Randall says: Today, Murray was favored probably for the first time in his career to beat Federer…”

Huh?? Who favored Murray given hid=s previous match performance in Cincy in addition to the known fatique factor having won Montreal? Based solely on their H2H? Que fatal!


tenisbebe Says:

Shud/b “given his previous”


blah Says:

Djokovic seems to be able to sneak a couple of trophies just when people aren’t talking about him. He loses when one expects him to have a good run and wins when people are starting to question his game.

Djokovic in 2.


Mindy Says:

I think tonight was a reality check for Rafa. Consistency doesn’t come back right away. I think something was going on with his stomach. I know he has been wearing tape on it the past few days. I am hearing it is a stomach strain. I sincerely hope that this will not be a serious issue. He is just getting back from his knees, so that is the last thing he needs. It’s normal to have aches and pains when playing competitive tennis again after a few months off.

I just think that Rafa came out flat and Nole came out on fire. He wanted this one very much. Nole needs some wins to build up his confidence. You never know what to expect from him. I don’t have a prediction for tomorrow. I am not that invested in it. My main interest is in Rafa’s comeback. He will be seriously tested at the U.S. Open. At least he has gotten some great match play under his belt. That is something. If he can make it through the first treacherous week, then I think he has a good chance to do well. Now he will be playing best three out of five sets and that will test his fitness. My sense of Rafa now is that his mental focus and concentration are not there yet.

I would so love to see Nole beat Federer. Talk about a confidence builder! But Roger sent a message to Andy Murray today, with all his talk about wanting to be #1 – not so fast, kid! I have to say that Murray’s awful habit of banging his knuckles against his racket strings is beyond bizarre and could do some damage. He needs to find another way to deal with the stress of competition. Murray needs to win a grand slam before I will really believe in him. He should just shut up and save it for the court. The fact that he is #2 without having won any grand slams, bothers me enormously. But Rafa has to take responsibility for that happening.

One thing’s for sure – we are going to see one heck of a men’s tournament at the U.S. Open!


Goran Says:

Come on Sean, are you kidding me, this was long coming, Novak should have won in Madrid, as he was a better player of the two. Only luck saved Rafa. This is absolutely no suprise to me. What stomach ailment you are talking about, this victory is sure due to Novak’s great performace today.


jane Says:

Mindy, do take heart. I am sure Rafa will be back to his best soon. There were flashes of it tonight in the second set, when he was finding his feet. He’s still a bit rusty. But I think he will now have some time to get ready for the USO.

I hope Djoko can pull off a surprising upset tomorrow, but I am happy for him that he got a win tonight, and played better than he has been in a while. It’s clear he respects Rafa’s game enormously so this will mean a lot to him.


Magellan Says:

Don’t understand the skew in Djokovic’s favor on the predictions. Fed in straights.


madmax Says:

novak was on fire yesterday. i agree with Jane. Rafa is just rusty and it wont take long before he finds his mojo again.

Roger to win today!


PietjeP Says:

Interesting what this will mean for the rankings looking at year end.

Assuming Fed will win, this is what the naked ranking looks like (I have added this weeks points and deducted all points to year end):

1. Fed / 8.640
2. Rafa / 7.425
3. Murray / 5.860

Murray blew his chance yesterday to be able to finish the year as the number 1 player. Winning all tournaments will not even do the trick. He depends on ‘poor’ results from Fed to step up the ladder.

Rafa has a far better chance. All he needs to do is win the US open :)) And stay competitive with Fed until year end, and maybe win one more title.

If Fed should be able to win the USO (which I don’t really expect); it will virtually lock the year end nr 1 spot.


sonic Says:

Strange how some people refuse to see certain things. There was no chance in hell for Rafa to beat Djokovic on a court this fast, now or ever. And for same reason Rafa will never win US Open, as i have said million times. It’s still so fast that there are more than a few player that can literaly crush Nadal, and there isn’t a thing in the world he can do about it.

When it comes to Djokovic, his game it custom made for Nadal, so even with poor form he should beat him on courts like these every time, as he always does. Completely different match vs Fed coming up, so this one should be forgotten ann not taken in account. Fed on the other hand is playing a similar oponent to the one he just beat.

I had no opinion on Fed – Murray, not konowing what to make of Fed’s breaking apart in best of 2, and Andy’s tiredness. What suprised me most in the end was the way Federer moved, like i haven’t seen him in years. That alone is enough for me to think Novak has no chance tonight, you don’t beat a confident Fed when he’s moving like that. Period.


Gordo Says:

PietjeP Says:
Rafa has a far better chance [ of finishing the year end as #1 ]. All he needs to do is win the US open :).

That’s all huh?

If Federer wins tomorrow I suspect he will have enough confidence to not only win his 6th straight US Open – realistically his remaining Grand Slam where he can set a consecutive match record that may never be broken for decades – but he may not even lose a set.

The way he has been playing since May I don’t think he was wary of anyone except the Scot and the Djoker. I doubt that Murray will beat him in a best of 5 anytime soon, and Djokovic? Let’s see what happens today. Yes, Nole looked very good, but really that was a shadow of the Rafa we all know and love on the other side of the Serb’s net.

It’s going to be fun.


Cindy_Brady Says:

Like I said, Djokovic will win Cincinati.

Rafa is so concerned about his precious knees, he forgot one thing, how to win. Djokovic is the far superior hard court player. Far better than Roddick’s game and face.

A Von sighting…

vvv

http://www.emerchandise.com/images/p/SSC/pdSTSSC0001.jpg

Someone stole her sour grapes again and she’s pissed!


Ryan Says:

Wat federer has done this time around vs murray is that he is cutting down those long ass rallies n really goin after it with his shots.This is the sort of strategy that has worked for him against nadal in madrid 09 n now murray in cinci 09.This is exactly how defenders should be played…sampras was rite after all…he was talking bout charging the net wen facing nadal n he was absolutely rite.


Ryan Says:

attacking tennis rules baby!!! fed n sampras…nuff said


Ryan Says:

And fed was kinda pissed wen people were talking bout him pussying out b4 facing murray in montreal….now he has shown the haters…now they gotta bend over n take it


chloe Says:

I was amazed at the schophantic commentators describing Federer’s performance against Murray as supreme, that is so far from reality, other half decent players would have beaten Murray in the form he was in, 2 & 1. This is why I have never supported Federer because he is given far too much credit for a mediocre game, because he won a lot in a weak field.

I would like Djokovic to win today, because I want the eventual winner to be the man who beat Rafa.

Rafa should be proud of himself for reaching the SF so soon after returning from a serious injury. Only he knows what was going on last night, I don’t think he atttacked enough in the first set and Djokovic as usual brought his A game on court against Rafa. Rafa will learn from this and be ready for the USO, he also needs the luck of the draw.


scineram Says:

He won Montreal 07 and lost USO 07 (as opposed to Federer winning it).
But then Federer lost Montreal.


Ryan Says:

“he is given far too much credit for a mediocre game, because he won a lot in a weak field”

well this weak field of players are the ones beating the strong field these days….haas beats djokovic in wim 09 n roddick beats murray. Gonzo beats murray in the french , kohlschreiber beats djokovic in fo 09 , roddick beats djokovic in ao 09. Wat bout madrid 09 wen fed beat nadal in the final on clay…no excuses there.As soon as fed beats these guys then it becomes a weak field….this year was supposed to be a strong field of players with murray nadal n djok….wat happened…fed still won 2 majors…ur theory sux. Maybe micheal jordan , ali , phelps r all given too much credit coz they dominated a weak field…get a grip


chloe Says:

Ryan,

Do you nt think that describing Roger’s performance against Andy Murray yesterday as supreme was a bit of an exageration?

OK, maybe these ‘weak’ beat today’s top players once, but it’s doing it on a regular basis that counts.


Von Says:

The prediction:

http://www.tennis-x.com/xblog/2009-08-21/2128.php#comment-90861

“Cindy_Brady Says:
Now that the Roddick’s, Berydch’s, Daveydanko’s,etc… , The also ran, has been crowd, have been ousted we can move on with the real tennis players – Thank God!! , The four best in the man’s game are playing each other. What a treat!

I predict Murray over Federer in 3

And

Djokovic over Nadal in 3

And

Djokovic over Murray in tomorrow’s final in 3 tight sets.

Posted August 22nd, 2009 at 8:45 am
_____________________

Brady: Pray tell me What am I pissed about? Are Federer and Nadal my faves? You look more stupid each time you come up with your crystal ball predictions, because they all turn out wrong and you end up with egg on your face, e.g., after the AO that Federer will never win another slam and Nadal is using drugs and he’ll be caught. Your lies and hate will be your downfall. Now you’re trying to ingratiate yourself with the Djokovic fans. OY.


Polo Says:

Chloe, you are more sour than a green papaya. Your negative comment on Federer who won and your positive comment on Nadal who lost makes you more bitter than a bad cabernet.


Ryan Says:

Commentators do kiss his ass…do agree but wat else can u say bout a man who has nothing much left to do in the sport.
Maybe roger didnt play the way he did back in 05 or 06 but he did play well….how else can u beat murray on a hard court.You talk like as if anybody could have beaten murray..thats bs…its putting pressure on ur opponent n making him a play a game he doesnt like that matters…thats wat fed did today…went after his shots.


Maso Says:

Chloe, it must hurt for you every time Roger wins another slam and proves you wrong. See, I’m a big Rafa fan while also being a big Fed fan, and I don’t find the two incompatible. Why do you have to discredit one to appreciate the other? So Rafa should be proud of getting to the semis but Roger is lucky yet again to get to another final? With that kind of luck, it’s a wonder the guy didn’t choose to play texas hold ‘em as a career instead of tennis!

I agree that Fed’s performance yesterday wasn’t extraordinary, but he played better than Murray and was more composed throughout the match. Something he’s definitely proved to us this year is that he’s developed nerves of steel (coming back from 2 sets down against Haas and the 5 setter against Del Potro at RG, the 16-14 final set of the Wimbledon final). Honestly, we’re at a great point in tennis history where one guy’s got a career slam and another could very well get his if he wins the US Open (though I think it unlikely that Nadal will do so this year, but who knows!). Yet most fans seem incapable of appreciating both players at the same time. A bit sad, I think.


Skorocel Says:

scineram: “But then Federer lost Montreal.”

Well, that’s true. Judging from what I read on this blog, whenever the USO 2007 final is mentioned, it’s more or less about Novak losing it rather than Fed winning it, that he’s blew xy setpoints, etc. etc., yet when it comes to the Montreal 2007 final, no one seems to mention the cold fact that Fed himself wasted no less than six (6) setpoints in that one…


Skorocel Says:

Ryan: “attacking tennis rules baby!!! fed n sampras…nuff said”

Amen to that!


i am it Says:

roger beat murray by not only executing an attacking game plan but also playing better defense as well varying serve, mostly avoiding Murry’s backhand.so it was 3-prong approach that worked perfectly.


Von Says:

Gordo: “Yes, Nole looked very good, but really that was a shadow of the Rafa we all know and love on the other side of the Serb’s net.”

I think Nadal’s level of play dropped from what we saw the previous night in his match v. Berdych. It’s obvious that Nadal has quite a bit of rust and some kinks to shed before he’ll be competing at the high level we’ve gotten accustomed to seeing him play. Considering the USO is just one week away, I strongly doubt that Nadal will be playing good enough to make it past the SFs.


prakash joshi Says:

Guys and pals,ladies and gentlemen,beware and try to understand one thing. Roger is the king.Thats it.whether he won or lose.If u have any doubts just see all those geometrical angles he creates on the return of serves and in the long rallies.


Cindy_Brady Says:

Von U Mad?


i am it Says:

if djokovic wants to win today on the one hand he will have to generate more power in his shots and decrease return time when going for winners and on the other he will have to indulge roger in long rallies from side to side and hit down the line with precision. also at times he will have to attack roger’s backhand in cross court rallies.
for roger to win he will need to alter the game plan he used against murray. attack and attack and attack won’t work as effectively against djoko. roger knows that djoko can play high level tennis in roger’s usual terms, baseline rallies. roger will have to use more inside the court and play short angle and go to the net as often as he can. in short roger will have to vary his shots which is like playing nonrhythmic tennis some may call it throwing kitchen sink.
if both play at their yesterday’s levels whoever has better 1st serve % will win at the end.
no prediction from me.


stu Says:

“1. Fed / 8640
2. Rafa / 7425
3. Murray / 5860″

and Djokovic 6710? Does this mean Nole has a shot too if he wins the USO and stays competitive with Roger for the rest of the year?


Veno Says:

Morning all!(well, afternoon here)
And hey Pietje…Hoe is het?

Hey Von, I see you have a pesky mosquito buzzing around your head again, trying to suck some of your blood at every chance she gets…

Fed played some good tennis, not extraordinary but didn’t need to, and Murray had a bad day at the office so straights for Fed the logical result. I was impressed with Fed’s movement and his kickserve turning into Andy’s body on second serves impressed me. Those are a lot harder to return well, especially when someone’s movement isn’t so well, as was the case with Andy. He seemed half a step slow. Smart of Fed to pick up on that, but for me Murray still one of the faves at the Open. Forget all that talk about not being able to win in best of 5, he’s just too good not to get there. I do agree though he weill have to conjure up a more aggressive mindset or he diminishes his chances.
Nadal played well and Novak was sharp and executed very well, I was impressed. Even though Rafa is clearly not at his best I have to give credit to Novak for taking time away from Rafa, really going for it(Tomas gave Rafa just that little window to get 1 more shot back and that’s where Rafa is at his best) Also his depth in general on his shots(he mixed up between topspin and flat balls beautifully) and his variation kept Rafa guessing. I give Novak a good chance to beat Fed, but he’ll have to serve really today.
I suspect a close match, maybe a couple of tiebreaks, but I’ll go with Fed in 3 tight sets.


Veno Says:

Ehm, Stu, hate to burst your bubble, but Novak is way below the count of Murray(He’s at 7750 now and could be at 8150 if he wins today) He’ll lose 900 from the USO and 1300 from the Masters Cup alone!!


Veno Says:

If Novak wins today he would rank the list as 4th:
Djokovic: 5410(with all points of 2008 dropped :)


stu Says:

You’re right Veno, I had forgotten to include the Masters Cup! Which sucks, it means the best he can do is #3!


Veno Says:

Hey Stu, worry not. Novak is on the way back. He’s only 22(exactly 1 week younger than Andy Murray)
He’s still one of the players able te become number 1, end of next year or begin season 2011 if he gets his confidence back to the level of end ’07-begin’08


Sliced Backhand Says:

Hi everybody, this is my first post on this forum. I found it during Wimbledon 2009 when Fed made history. Although Fed has been my favorite tennis player ever since he beat Pete Sampras at Wimbledon , i admire the sportsmanship of Rafa.

As for today’s match i am betting on Federer to beat Novak :)


Veno Says:

Welcome Sliced Backhand! We live in good times as tennis fans and I’m also a relative newby at this Blog but I for one love it!!!

Very nice to talk about, debate and discuss tennis with so many different fans all over!!!


Gordo Says:

Sliced Backhand and Veno – welcome. I post and then go away for a few weeks and then come back to see what is constant in the world of tennis, namely -

1) The various volunteer writers keep things interesting with their articles.

2) A lot of people in here dislike Fed but love Rafa, and vice versa. The love for either makes sense, but the bashing each player gets is just dumb.

3) Serena keeps tanking in tourneys but then whines that she should be number one.

4) Cindy Brady and Von have a deep hatred for each other that surfaces every so often. Best to just eat popcorn and read.

5) Roger, Rafa, Nole and Murray are the best top four in mens tennis for a very long time. We do indeed Veno, “live in good tennis times as fans.”


joe Says:

chloe…you know nothing about tennis or you are blind…I can tell from your comments…LOL


Gordo Says:

So – The Djoker and Fed go at it in a little more than an hour. Can everyone watch live on the telly where they are? If not, the match is streaming live – for free – at .

I have been watching many matches there all week.


Gordo Says:

Hmmn – I put the site beteen greater than/lesser than symbols in my last post – I’ll just post the site below and see if y’all can read it -

http://www.atdhe.net


Cindy_Brady Says:

joe,

You are correct. However, I would include many other “know it alls” on that list as well.

This blog is full of people who know shit about the Xs and Os of professional tennis. Bunch of parrots without original thinking….

Here is Von hanging with some friends…

http://advocacy.britannica.com/blog/advocacy/wp-content/uploads/macaws.jpg


Voicemale1 Says:

Murray is now starting to feel what Federer & Nadal have felt their whole careers: the pressure of defending the titles you rack up. His ascent to the top began in the summer of 2008, which was an ideal time for him to ascend: he was out of action the whole summer of 2007 after popping his wrist in Hamburg that year. So the summer of 2008 was nothing but adding points to his ranking . This year he has the added pressure of defending what he took last year. Every player on the tour who is or has ever played will tell you that defending a title, especially a big one, is the hardest thing a tour player can do. Your ranking can literally depend on the outcome. Pressure like that makes every swing of your racquet that much heavier.

It’s a testament to players like Federer and Nadal to successfully cope with that kind of pressure racking up multiple titles at the same event year after year. That they’ve done it at the Majors is extraordinary. Djokovic had two such positions to defend in majors thus far and failed at both. He didn’t get to the US open Final of 2008, and did not defend his Australian title of 2008. Talented as he is, that’s how hard defending a title is. So let’s see if Murray can make it to the Final of the US Open again.


Steve@Tennisnewz Says:

This should be a good final. Federer really came to play against Murray yesterday and Djokovic looked pretty solid against Nadal, even though Nadal still doesn’t looked great. Murray should still be in alright shape for the US Open but there are a lot of players who have a style of game that his doesn’t match up well with. Gonzalez, Verdasco and Soderling could all cut his run short if they have a good day. Federer has always said Murray relies too much on his opponent making mistakes and doesn’t really control the play. It looked like yesterday he was out to prove it and show Murray what happens when Roger isn’t missing easy forehands. Going into the Open Murray should be somewhat happy with his play this summer, but it could be a bit discouraging knowing he played much better yesterday than he did in the US Open final against Federer last year and was still never really in the match.


margot Says:

jane: fab! fab! fab! All the very best for Djko today! Hope he whops TMF!


Duro Says:

Nervous, nervous, nervous…


Gordo Says:

Margot – It is okay to refer to Fed as “Tennis Monarch Federer” – you do not have to abbreviate to TMF. :)


Veno Says:

Good luck to your man Jane, hope they give us a good match!

Go Fed!!!!!!


jane Says:

I think Fed’ll win today, much as I’d like to see Novak win. Fed is in attack mode, scrambling to the net and finishing off points at every turn. And it’s working well. Plus, already Novak isn’t serving as well as last night.


Veno Says:

Actually Novak is serving very well….


Kimmi Says:

YEEES GO ROGER


jane Says:

Yeah he’s serving pretty well. Lots of UEs though I guess. Oh well.


Scottish Says:

Hey All, looks to be a good match. Fed starting well, good to see.

Anyone got a stream that works? ATDHE doesn’t have any active.


jane Says:

He was better at getting in first serves last night though. He finished that set at over 80% first serves in.

But Fed is playing the best I’ve seen him play in a while.


i am it Says:

the match is over. sorry djoko and his fans.


jane Says:

Sheesh! Give Fed the trophy already. Fed’s doing to Novak what Novak did to Rafa in the first set last night. Think I am tuning out.


i am it Says:

that’s monster play from roger. is he gonna bagel the serb or what? this has been a disappointing final so far.


Veno Says:

Fed on fire!


Shaky Says:

Only stream I could find is in spanish on justin.tv.

This score can’t be right. Fed’s up 5-0???


i am it Says:

this is what atp vs. wta looks like.


Shaky Says:

Here’s a working one in english:

http://www.justin.tv/nivi2

it’s choppy for me but my net is bad.

Hey check it out: big grats to Novak for getting on the scoreboard!


Veno Says:

Fed is sending a message to the field for the USO next week


Veno Says:

Jane, Novak serves 81% in the first set…


Scottish Says:

Thanks for the feeds. Fed looks strong. I was a little uncertain how he would play this week after his loss to Tsonga but he has been getting better and stronger with each match. Keep it going for 1 more set!!


Duro Says:

Jane, we’re sinking badly… No help from any side.


Kimmi Says:

Please fed concentrate…second set.


jane Says:

Djoko has no fire today so far, like Murray yesterday. Meanwhile, Fed is hitting everything in, very few errors, and just great tennis. Too bad it’s not more competitive. Djok hit 9 winners to Fed’s 13, but twices as many UEs.


i am it Says:

6-1 in 30 min, with only 47% 1st serve in. roger is good. he has been anal. it’s painful.


Shaky Says:

(just so it doesn’t look like I’m totally knocking novak, that last comment was in reference to his sarcastic prayer to heaven when he finally won a service game at 0-5)

I only saw the last 3 games with english commentary, but Federer looked like he did against Murray: aggressive, not spraying too many forehands, etc.

I don’t speak spanish fluently, but based on what I’ve read here from the Nadal fans here, my loose translation of the spanish feed would be that it was probably mostly about how lucky everyone was that Nadal is still rusty. That’s a fair guess, right? (j/k)


jane Says:

You’re right Veno – Sheesh: 80% first serves, 9 winners. If it weren’t for the errors, and maybe Fed, he’d be winning! : ) LOL

Duro – let’s hope he can wake up and make the second set a little more competitive at least. : (


jane Says:

Nice effort Nole! Make it a match!!


i am it Says:

1st time djoko has a break point after 28-shot rally. this is the first break point roger faced in the last 2 matches. 3 matches including this one. but it swiftly disappeared. 2nd break chance for djoko. that also gone. 3rd break on great short angle shot. and djoko gets the break great. is it back to atp vs. atp now? are we going to have a match or what?


Veno Says:

Ah Novak did well to break there…match on!


Shaky Says:

Hey there’s a break!

If Novak can stop dumping down the line backhands into the net, he should be able to make this a close match.


i am it Says:

djoko holds. 3-0. looks like we have a match now.


Veno Says:

Some great tennis being played now…Good to see Novak lifted his level..


Rainy Says:

woot woot woot ? where are feds fans now? its 3:0 for Nole in 2nd set, think u better tune in again ^__^


Kimmi Says:

Novak lifted level and fed went down a little..c’mon fed..


Von Says:

Gordo: “4) Cindy Brady and Von have a deep hatred for each other that surfaces every so often. Best to just eat popcorn and read.”

Please tell you you’re not just talking off the top of your head? Since you don’t come here often why don’t you observe? Don’t you see who is attacking whom? I’m sure you with all your practiced restraint wouldn’t be able to ignore anyone who continuously (as we’ve seen in the past where you’ve been the initiator) puts your name out there without provocation, but just because of being targeted for liking a player that’s hated, and in my case, Roddick. When she does that, I have no choice but to defend myself, as have many others here. FYI, I HATE NO ONE.

BTW, I believe you in the past have put up many defenses and still do verbally with your entrance rants fighting with other posters when your fave is attacked, and those of us here had to scroll down to avoid reading same. And, now you’ve become judge and jury passing judgments. So what makes me any different? Except in my case both me and my fave are attacked relentlessly and for no good and/or justified reason at all except that it gives the attacker some sort of twisted happiness and sickening satisfaction to do so. In essence judge not without knowing the full history, which I know you do, which places me at a loss as to why you’re making such statements. I suppose we all need to appear noble at anther’s expense and reputation, so carry on, and have fun tarnishing my name, Gordo.


jane Says:

Fed breaks back…sigh.


Veno Says:

Fed applied the pressure there…


Kimmi Says:

Back on serve, great shots from fed and bad error from Novak to end the game


Veno Says:

Rainy Says:

woot woot woot ? where are feds fans now? its 3:0 for Nole in 2nd set, think u better tune in again ^__^

Aiai, spoke a little too soon there….


Von Says:

Veno: Yes, I’m glad you see the mosquito is buzzing around and sucking every bit of blood with out any reason whatsoever. I came here to have some fun, but I’ll leave since judgment has been passed. Goodluck to your guy.


Veno Says:

Good afternoon Von!
How are you?


Scottish Says:

That was 2 impressive games from Fed. Nice to see that when he is down he steps it up. Still a long way to go and Djoko has elevated his game so it should be close. This isn’t over by a long shot.


i am it Says:

break came. break gone. back to no match.


xnon Says:

yawn. Federer is so smug and boring and arrogant.

Come on Novak!!!


Shaky Says:

Rainy: the federer fans channel his confidence. They don’t get nervous or stop posting just because he’s down a break. They’re like the passengers on the titanic: no panic, pretty much ever.

I don’t like Novak in a tiebreaker here. imo he’s got 4 more chances to break federer to extend this match or it’s going to be over.


Rainy Says:

I just said that, caz i saw some very baaad comments on the match from Feds fans, and suddenly at 3:0 for Novak, they became so quiet x)

btw Feds back and playing better then Nole, but – never give up!

3:3 adv Nole gogogogo


Veno Says:

Good hold for Novak there!


Scottish Says:

xnon: LOL you can tell Fed is smug and arrogant from watching this match? Hilarious. Have you met Fed? Have you talked to him? It’s hardly a relevant statement to make about his character by watching this match. Your comments are best left unsaid.

I’m not cheering for Djoko but I wouldn’t bash his character on a blog just cuz I don’t want bim to win.


Shaky Says:

Novak’s got really good hands at net. He should shorten the points and get in there, force Roger to come up with backhand passes.

Roger’s been shooting bullets from the forehand side all day, I don’t like Novak in long rallies in this match. He doesn’t have it today.


Kimmi Says:

Phooo..danger there fed….C’MOOON


Kimmi Says:

And Fed Breaks..can he serve for it ?


Shaky Says:

Scottish I have to ask you this: how is it at this point in Roger’s career, after the FO and #15, some idiot’s comments about Roger being arrogant don’t just roll off your back.

I’m a roddick guy. People have been calling him fat (lol), arrogant, and boorish for what feels like a decade. But you’re not ever going to catch me defending his personality on a tennis blog. :)

Aaaaaaaaand Novak tries a drop shot with the match basically in the balance and Fed inside the baseline. Nice decision there, buddy.


jane Says:

OMG – What at DUMB time for a drop shot! Djoko why???? At least you could’ve forced a tiebreak. Ugh.


Veno Says:

I’m glad Novak raised his level in the second set/ Seen some great tennis so far.
The pressure Fed put on Murray yesterday and today on Novak is hard to handle, even for the best players.

I feel Novak’s and Andy Murray’s second serves need improvement…


Veno Says:

Good to see Fed is really happy winning this match and tourney…
1st HC title this season….

Congrats Fed!!!
Commisserations Jane, but your man is in good form for the Open and that’s good to see!!! He fought well in the second set!

What a USO we are in for!!!!


jane Says:

Yes – you’re right about the second serves needing improvement. And shot selection – ah duh!

Oh well, Fed wins again … sigh. No offense to his fans. He deserved to win. But man o man, would like to see other players STEP IT UP!


jane Says:

Yes – you’re right about the second serves needing improvement. And shot selection – ah duh!

Oh well, Fed wins again … sigh. No offense to his fans; he deserved to win. But man o man, I would like to see other players STEP IT UP!


Scottish Says:

Shaky: It has nothing to do with defending Fed. My point was simply that you can’t determine the character of a player like Fed by watching his match. You can tell how a player is if he swears at people and ignores fans and things like that butg not by watching him hit tennis balls.


Duro Says:

Flat, flat, flat. No power, no services, no energy, no spirit. Without first service in for about 20 minutes, very weak second one, poor speed and that’s it. Maybe not enough time from the match with Nadal. Anyway, this was not the game of his best so RF deserved it. Final isn’t bad. See you all at USO. Jane, it had to be that way. Next time maybe.


Von Says:

Veno: Congrats to you on your man’s win and enjoy the rest of the day!

Can’t say it was a particularly exciting match, more one-sided IMO. From the very first game of Djoko’s it was evident that he’d be in for a huge battle and every game followed that pattern. Solid performance by Federer!


jane Says:

Sorry for the double post guys.

Duro, my friend,, hope to you see you during the USO! Let’s hope Novak can up his level even more. Cheers!


JCZ Says:

Hey, so I hope those comments about Roger being lucky with the draw dissipate. He beat the world no. 2 and no. 4 to get the tournament. So let’s do away with the nonsense.

Also, while they didn’t serve great there were definitely a ton of highlights. I think it was a good match overall.


Shaky Says:

I agree that xnon’s comment had no connection to the match, but what’s your point? He didn’t pretend that it did. He just stated in a roundabout way that he doesn’t like him. “yawn. Federer is so smug and boring and arrogant.”

That’s what I’m trying to say: the guy doesn’t like him, he’s not even pretending to have a comment on the match, so why chastise this guy?

I don’t know. Federer fans remind me of most internet Kobe Bryant fans: even if some random troll is just a jerk making a tasteless rape joke, kobe fans feel the need to remind everyone not to listen to the troll. It’s like… nobody cared about his stupid comment, so you’re just giving it attention.

Jane: look on the bright side. Novak’s 2nd serve may be barely cracking 80, and it has no spin or placement… but at least it still looks good next to Murray’s. Murray makes an only above average returner like Federer look like Agassi at his peak.


Veno Says:

Thanks Von.

I’ll take Fed’s win and the second set was good. Some good tennis and we’re in for a great USO.

Fed’s already in his head with his twins….stumbling through the on-court interview…lol

Well, he’ll never have a career in presentational speaking after his tennis career that’s for sure.
Good to see Novak back in it. He’ll take great confidence from this tournament!


Fed is GOAT Says:

So much for all the rubbish about Federer trying to avoid playing Murray or someone else! He beat the pulp out of Murray and Djokovic.

Do for the Fed Haters out there, suck it up!


Kimmi Says:

Winners of MS 1000 this year.

Nadal x 3
Murray x 2
Federer x 2

Good to see Murray in the mix.


fed is afraid Says:

congrats to roger and his fans, he has had a great week, beating murray and now djoker. i have a feeling he might be getting his 16th slam soon. the rest of the guys have been put on notice.


Fed is GOAT Says:

On that note – Djokovic is a better overall player than Murray. I think djokovic will end up with more slam titles than Murray (might be 1-0, the way it is right now!). Murray just doesn’t have the game….


i am it Says:

it’s scary how easily roger won defeating the world’s 2 of the best players. us open is his to take. he only has to play another round of 7 matches. congrats to the champion.


joe Says:

for the people that thought that Novak had chance…you haven’t been paying attention to Roger lately. This is how the match went: Roger let Novak win one game in first set not to embarrass him to much and then in the second set Roger spotted Novak a 3 game lead on purpose to show how he could come back and win easily 7-5 in second set. That about sums up the match!!!!!!!


Tennis Vagabond Says:

Terrific match. Nole played a great second set, but Fed was (aside from serve) on FIRE today. He is moving SO well. And pasting the lines, like Classic Fed. I am so happy to see Nole playing well again, he is such an exciting player when he’s on, and I’d love to see him as a genuine SLam threat, but I don’t think he’s QUITE there yet.
I think Murray had maybe gotten even with Fed as far as fave for USO, but I’d have to say that Fed has again established himself as the clear favourite. I think there’s 3 tiers going in here:
Fed, Murray, Nadal
Djoker, A-Rod, delPo
Everybody else.

And realistically, that middle tier can probably be added to the Everybody Else category.
I just hope we get a chance for a FedNadal match, whether its semis or finals!

CONGRATS ROG, CONGRATS NOLE!


Twocents Says:

Djok: I got a bigger trophy at least!

Fed: Mine’s heavier.

Ddjok: and bottom off.


jane Says:

Shaky – that’s not super bright news on the second serve, LOL. I agree with your earlier comment about Novak – he should try to use a little more variety, come to net more, use the volley & lob combo he was using more in 2007. Maybe T. Martin will help him feel more confident about coming in and attacking a bit more.

FiG – both Murray and Novak were in it in the second sets. They just came out of the gates too slow and Fed was, no doubt about it, on fire. He was the best player at this event. But he did lose to Tsonga last week.

Veno – you should be pleased; Fed was on fire, particularly in the first set! Enjoy his win.

I think we should have a fun and competitive USO; all the top six are in with a shot. To me, the fave order for the last slam is: Fed, then Murray, then Roddick/Rafa, then JMDP/Djoko


Veno Says:

i am it Says:

it’s scary how easily roger won defeating the world’s 2 of the best players. us open is his to take. he only has to play another round of 7 matches. congrats to the champion.

Gotta love how almost everyone jumps the gun again….

Although Fed is in great shape, has super confidence, loves New York, is a 5 time defending champion, hasn’t lost in 14 straight Slam matches, reached 21 consequtive Slam Semis etc etc etc, he is not just going to dust up and bring home the trophy. We’ll see what the draw looks like and see what will happen.
It’s going to be a great ride in New York and I’m sure as hell going to enjoy it!!!


Kimmi Says:

Twocents LOL, I think I saw that interaction but could not figure out what they said..ha ha ha


Cindy_Brady Says:

WoW….How times have changed since the Federer of April.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyWa4pT66ho

Federer proved me wrong by winning this tournament. A rarity, for me to be wrong.

Don’t think Federer will win the U.S Open now.


jane Says:

Kimmi are you watching Shrieky and Dementieva? They just played a phenomenal point! Defense = Dement. Offense = Sharpie. 24 shot rally.


Veno Says:

Tx Jane, Fed looked great. His movement and reactions were top notch today.

I was impressed by Novak’s length of shot too…

Only needs some polishing, it’s not like Roger belw him away the second set.

My faves for USO ’09:

1) Fed
2) Murray
3) Novak, Rafa, JMDP and Andy Roddick

My dark horse: Novak! Finalist ’07, Semi-finalist last year and getting back to top form in preperations now!!!


Veno Says:

Cindy_Brady Says: “A rarity, for me to be wrong.”

Thanks again Cindy, you always manage to make me laugh!


jane Says:

Veno, your “although” clause is a little long @ 2:28. Methinks part of you thinks Fed WILL dust up. : )


Duro Says:

My list of favorites for USO: Fed, Murray, Rafa/Nole, then Roddick, JMDP. Luckily it won’t happen that way…


Twocents Says:

Glad you caught my silly episode, Kimmi. I do have ears of a bat, somehow. LOL. Djok’s such a happy boy.

A 90~100% Fed beat a 60% Murray & 80% Djok. No real surprise here. Fed still needs to win USO beating one of top 3 to prove to me that he can still play his 04-06 form.

Murray and Djok both look good for Flushing Meadow.


Kimmi Says:

Jane, I am watching now, Demantieva nearly gets the set…great game. And I saw that point back and forth finish with error though….I would like demantieva to win this bad she is making so many errors at the wrong time.


Veno Says:

Jane: You thinks correctly, a part of me does, however the biggest part of me doesn’t like to sell the skin before the bear is shot :)

Remember Wimby ’96? Pete was going to dust up…Until he met my countryman R.K. The true one Slam wonder and he’s fine with that connotation.


Veno Says:

Twocents says:

“Fed still needs to win USO beating one of top 3 to prove to me that he can still play his 04-06 form.”

Good to see your good sense of humour!!!

So Fed needs to prove that to you huh? I like that!


Duro Says:

If Nole gets Murray’s half (shame that he’s in that situation in first place) We might have Nole-Rafa final! Don’t be so surprised, people, if it happens. I know things. If in Fed’s, Nole-Rafa again. Winner? I won’t tell ya…


Veno Says:

Hey Kimmi, I think it’s key for Maria to get the first serve, dunno if she can come back to win 2 sets in a row against the fittest female athlete on tour…


sensationalsafin Says:

Why is Djokovic clumped with Nadal? Djokovic is the better hard court player and he’s also in better shape at the moment. I think if Djokovic plays the way he did in the second set today and the way he played against Nadal yesterday, he can beat Murray, too. Djokovic is the more aggressive of the 2 and at his best, well, he’s pretty damn hard to beat. So I’d put Djokovic ahead of Murray assuming he continues his aggressive play. Hell, seeing how Murray struggles against aggressive play I’d put Roddick above him. JMDP struggles with fitness too much to blow Murray off the court, YET. But I’m not trying to knock Murray or anything. The guy is one of the smartest players on tour and there’s always a great chance that he’ll come into the USO and play aggressive and attacking tennis and actually win the whole thing. So if anything, all the players should be clumped together because there are so many factors that can help each one in different ways. I think Nadal is still a question mark and imo, he’ll lose to one of the top contenders in the second week. Djokovic, Roddick, Federer, etc, can all beat him as of now. I predict a QF loss for Nadal. Past that, too hard to say. Can’t wait!!!


Veno Says:

Ai, Elena takes the first set…


Kimmi Says:

Veno/Jane..and she lost. Demantieva great chance here now.


Veno Says:

Forget the women’s final in Toronto Kimmi, switch over to Nesto/Z against the Bryan Bros!!!!!

Talk about a rivalry!!!


jane Says:

Duro – please do tell, so I can place some bets. I need cash! : )

Kimmi – Dementieva took the first set, as she should’ve. She was up 4-1 and let Sharapova back in it. Not good. We’ll see how the next one goes. I think Elenea will win today. It’s quite something Sharpie even made the final; she’s played pretty well, and as usual has fought hard. And b.t.w., congrats on Fed’s win; I know he’s your fave too.

Veno – no you wouldn’t want to make an early sale. I like to be pessimistic as a rule, and then be pleasantly surprised if I am wrong. Ha!

Twocents says “A 90~100% Fed beat a 60% Murray & 80% Djok. No real surprise here” This seems like a pretty honest comment. Neither Murray nor Djoko were at their best, but I did think Roger looked pretty damn close to his best; he was ripping so many winners. His second serve has been a killer. Maybe the one thing he could’ve done better is get more first serves in but with such a strong second serve, he doesn’t have to worry about it so much. Djok and Murray should TAKE NOTE! :)

Keep up the funny scenario writing, b.t.w.


Kimmi Says:

They are showing the men doubles? I would like to watch that, these teams have great rivarly…Nesto/Z are my fave.

I will tune to that…


Kimmi Says:

Thanks Jane..Yes fed is my 1st fave.

Veno, where is the doubles feed ? don’t have it.


jane Says:

“Nesto/Z are my fave.” Mine too! We have a Canadian in there – woot!


Sliced Backhand Says:

Well done Fed :) He move around magnificently today and looks like he is conserving those ACES for the US Open.

Hello @ Veno and Gordo x


Veno Says:

Oh my, just looking at Roger Federer’s career statistics on Wikipedia!!! His numbers are staggering, good thing Rafa is providing the much needed red colouring on his results or it would just have been boringly filled with wins unimaginable!!!

How glad we tennis fans have to be that the beast from Manacor decided to become a pro tennis player, switched to playing left handed and had Roger Federer as a mark to do everything in his power to become better than him!!!

Gracias Rafa!!!


jane Says:

When I watch the on-court coaching during the women’s matches it feels like reality t.v. or something; I HATE it!


Sliced Backhand Says:

moved*


Sliced Backhand Says:

Truly, Rafa has helped Roger Federer in becoming a mentally tougher player than he was a couple of years back even.
Today, Fed was flawless though. Good night everyone, it’s past midnight in India now. Have fun x


Veno Says:

Ah Kimmi, I was able to watch a couple of minutes..Bryan Bros hammering right now…but then the stream got pulled…pity..


Kimmi Says:

ha ha ha Jane..LOOOOOOOOL Did you see Sharapova chat with her coach ?

Coach “Your serve..its like you are serving 80% to her BH, just take you slice serve …OK, Im wrong, you are fine..just do what you wanna do…either give in to yourself and get out of here or fight hard..I don’t know what you want, what do you wanna do ? everybody knows you are tired…so what are you going to do ?

LOL to listen to the coaching ?


Veno Says:

Jane: Nestor/Zimonjic are my faves too, only because Nestor is Canadian!!!


Veno Says:

at first and I also really like their play!!!!!


Veno Says:

Shriekapova doesn’t sound to me like someone who would listen to anyone when in the match…last night was the prime example for that LOOOL

On-court coaching….What a joke!!!!!!!!


jane Says:

Yep Kimmi, that’s what I hated. It’s like listening to a little kid get scolded at the grocery store. I feel like a voyeur, like big brother. Yuck.

—————-

Announcement! Djoko didn’t play *that* badly; he was up a break in the second and he had a second set point, so he did create some opportunities. His downfall today was that he began too slow, and he hit too many errors – into the net, long, wide, etc. A cleaner match and I think it would’ve gone at least three sets. Oh and one more huge mistake – the drop shot! DUH. Stop it with those Djoko and Murray: use them sparingly and NOT at key moments. Take heed. Write it down. Come on! I am not giving up hope on you two winning some slams soon!


Von Says:

Veno: I’m watching live scores Bryans v. Nestor/Zim and the Bryans are up 5-2. I’m hoping for a win here as they’ve been losing too many good matches by a couple of points, especially in the tie-breaks to Nestor/Zim. C’mon Bryans!


jane Says:

I mean, “three sets” — skip the “at least” as it couldn’t go more than 3, lol.


Kimmi Says:

Jane: “the drop shot! DUH. Stop it with those Djoko and Murray: ”

if those dropshots go in, then we say “what a shot” but now he missed it..”what a bad shot”…I know I know..Its very hard out there.


jane Says:

Kimmi, the drop shot tends to work very well on clay, imo. But on hardcourt it seems to be a much riskier shot. It’s fine to use it when up a couple of points, but not when risking a service hold to force a tiebreak. It’s a shot that has to be used judiciously, and Novak used it a bad times today, imo.


Long Live the King Says:

Who’s the Big Daddy? :)


Von Says:

Love Live: You! LOL. Is that “big daddy’ as in Southern Big Daddy, the guy with the big bucks? LOL.


Duro Says:

Veno, Daniel Nestorović! Does it ring any bells? He’s Canadian don’t worry, that wasn’t my point. They are my faves too.

Jane, damn drop shot. But did you notice that he’s always using it when without strength and power, when tired, in later sets etc. etc. and sometimes without ideas? Serve is the main problem!!!


Long Live the King Says:

Veno :

You can add this to wikipedia – won atleast one title on hard, clay and grass 6 out of the last 7 years :)

If I am not mistaken, the year he missed it was 2006 – his best calendar year, in my book.


jane Says:

Duro yes: he NEEDS to have a high first serve percentage, and/or a better second serve. Attacking a little more, leaving his comfort zone of the baseline, might also help.

———————–

Kimmi, looking more and more like Elenea will win!


jane Says:

PS – I heard Nalby is back on the practice courts; that’s good news!


Veno Says:

True, love live the king…

2006 was the 1 year since 2002 he missed getting a title on clay. ’03-’05 and ’07-’09 he has titles on all three surfaces


Veno Says:

Lol Duro, I know his family is from Serbia-Montenegro originally :) Thanks though…


Kimmi Says:

“Kimmi, looking more and more like Elenea will win!”

Yeah jane you are right. Dementieva breaks.

“PS – I heard Nalby is back on the practice courts; that’s good news!”

Good news indeed. love Nalbandian..love his down the line BH. Hope he comes back soon.


Veno Says:

True Von, The Bryans deserve to be at the good end of the stick for a change :)

I think they’ll win this one for their 54th title!!! and close in on the Woodies’ 61 tally!


Long Live the King Says:

Hi Von :

Used it as a pun, in that Fed is the only daddy in the top 10 and also he’s around the 50 million dollar mark in prize money earnings :)

Good to see A-rod bounce back. FWIW, he did better “bouncing back” than Roger did last year from that terrible wimbledon loss. If Roger and Rafa lose early at the big apple, I hope, for your sake, that Andy does what Fed did last year at NY, after a heartbreaker in London!


jane Says:

Veno are you Canadian? Just curious.


Long Live the King Says:

A funny post on the tennis.com site. Totally hilarious! ROFL

Dear Andy,

You have one week to work on your second serves ’til we meet again at the USO.

Sincerely,
Roger

CC: Novak


jane Says:

Long Live – that is funny. Even I have to admit it and am a Murray and Djoko fan. Sigh.


jane Says:

Congrats to Dementieva! Now I hope she can win the USO and her first slam!


Von Says:

Long Live;

“Used it as a pun, in that Fed is the only daddy in the top 10 and also he’s around the 50 million dollar mark in prize money earnings :)”

Hi hon: I know you used it as a pun, and it’s why I added the Southern Big Daddy humour, because those Southern big daddies are worth a fortune.

Thanks for the good wishes for A-Rod at the USO — one can only hope that something good will swing his way. I’m beginning to think that Andy will do better in other non-tennis activities as it seems that tennis has been too much of a rocky road for him and sometimes we don’t always get the desires of our hearts, even though we feel that the path we’ve taken is the right one. I’d like to Andy play doubles after he retires from singles, but it’s mainly for a selfish reason, as I’d get to see him play for more years. What can I say, my brain keeps coming up with strategies to combat negativity. LOL.

BTW, are you ready for our match at Flushing Meadow? LOL.

LL: Nice chatting with you and stop by more often will ya, if only to keep things lively around here.


Duro Says:

Veno, about Nestorović, he could very well also be a Canadian even if he kept his real last name as it is. Now you see what I’m referring at. He is born in Belgrade, his parents are Serbians, he lived in his home country till age of 4, then they moved to Canada. Fine with me, but I think no one should ever change his name. “Nomen est omen” say the Old Latins. I can never forgive such a thing. I tells a lot about certain person… If you don’t respect who you are no good thing can come out of it.


Von Says:

Long Live;

I’ve always believed that Murray’s second serve is his Achilles heel and we see it more and more manifested when he’s under pressure. What did Sampras say: A player is only as good as his second serve. And, if I might add, it’s the gospel truth.


Kimmi Says:

Congrants dementieva..shara did very well, great effort..she seem to be back to her best.

Long Live..LOOOOL very funny.


Von Says:

Veno: Oh no, horror of horrors, the Bryans are locked in a tie-break again, which is their Achilles heel v. Nestor/Zim. I’m hoping that today the bad luck trend will end and they’ll emerge victorious. C’mon Bryans!!


Veno Says:

Thanks for the info Duro. I agree on not changing your family name.
Could be Nestor’s official name is unchanged my friend….

And the Latin phrase is a good one, although there were no “Latins” as they were Romans :)


Long Live the King Says:

Jane:

Feel your pain – been there with Roger till madrid 09. (Luckily, Rafa was ripping it up (except wimbledon 08 and melbourne 09 – which were total torture at that time, but can look back fondly now.)

That letter is just silly funny.


Veno Says:

Jane, I am Dutch, with no Canadian blood, but I love Canada and Canucks!!!

My ex was Canadian and I was set to live permanently in Canada until things between us got bad and we decided to break up….I still want to live in Canada though. Who knows, maybe in a couple of years I’ll come over…


Veno Says:

They almost got it Vonnie…


jane Says:

Von – looks like the Bryans will take it – Congrats to them. The top two doubles teams certainly are good.


Von Says:

C’mon Bryans, just do it!!


Veno Says:

3 match pts gone, 2 to go…


Von Says:

Dang it all, they gave back the breaks.!


Veno Says:

Oh my god!!!!!!!!

Not again!!!!!!!!!!!!


jane Says:

Veno – come on over! Canada is a great place indeed. Anyhow, I am outta here guys. Gotta do some back to school shopping. Cheers all.

Thanks for the empathy Long Live – must be nice cheering for Rog!

Congrats to all of todays winners (sheesh looks like Nestor and Z are coming back?) — and what the heck, congrats to the runners up too.


Veno Says:

squandered 5 matchpoints…oh my…must be a mental issue…


Von Says:

The bryans have become so predictable when playing aginst the other team. sheesh


Von Says:

C’mon guys, win already, puhlease.


Veno Says:

6th matchpoint!


Veno Says:

sheeeezhhhhhhhhhhhh


Duro Says:

Veno, you said: “Could be Nestor’s official name is unchanged my friend….” Could you clarify what did you mean? His official name is changed. He is Danijel Nestorović, now Daniel Nestor.


Von Says:

Watching live scores is most agonizing when the match is close.


Kimmi Says:

OMG how many match points, if they lose this will crash their confidence.


Veno Says:

I don’t believe it!!!

Nestor/Zim are the Bryan’s Nadal to Fed


Kimmi Says:

OH Nooo ! Congrats Nestor/Z.


Von Says:

Unbelievable! words fail me.


Von Says:

Veno: Have you taken a look at Pen Pilot’s draw? This year’s draw consists of some top quality players and could turn out to be an exciting tournament. Will you be watching? The TV schedule will show matches from Thursday through Sunday, and I’m hoping there will be live streaming for the other days.


Mindy Says:

Voicemale1,

You are the voice of reason here! I completely agree with your comments about Murray finding out how tough it is as you move up in the rankings. Defending title is challenging, as he is discovering. Murray can talk all he wants about wanting to be #1, but saying it won’t make it happen. First he needs to win a grand slam. So far he hasn’t been able to get it done.

Now that Murray is #2, even without having won any grand slams, he is going to be getting more attention. There’s more pressure to win every time. So welcome to being in the top rung of tennis players!

I don’t think Murray’s loss to Federer means he can’t win the U.S. Open. He came out flat and didn’t seem to be on his game. Federer came out aggressive, focused, with a solid game plan for attacking Murray. What I find interesting is that when Federer wins, that tournament suddenly becomes the most important one. Federer going out against Tsonga in the quarterfinals of Montreal was not big deal to his rabid fans. They live in their own world of reality. With their myopic view of everything, they can pick and choose which results mean everything and which mean nothing.

Federer seems to be sending a message to the other players that he is ready to defend his title at the U.S. Open. I know that Rafa is not yet back to his best form, but I will never count him out.

Someone here said that Rafa will never beat Nole at Cincy. I can live with that. Rafa has beaten him where it counts, in the grand slams. The fact that Nole was dismissed so easily by Federer should temper the excitement of his win over Rafa.


Long Live the King Says:

Oh Ok, Von! Hard to see Fed as the Southern Big Daddy, though. He is too much of an elitist! No wonder the English love him :D (If I am not mistaken, you have some English roots, as well, right? :)

Dont worry about A-rod, he will be fine. Maybe he is even milking these tough losses to their full extent when he goes home to brooklyn (is it?) ;) I know I would if I were him :D

And what’s with all the negativity. Doesn’t suit you one bit. Check out andy roddick on twitter and maybe that will keep you positive. :) Andy playing doubles is a good idea, but given that Andy is a good “show-man” I am sure he will always be in the lime-light like Agassi. He is just made for entertainment – tennis/SNL make your pick :)

And I am sorry, but you gotta refresh my memory regarding our flushing meadows’ match. If it is not regarding a Roger and Andy’s tennis match, I am sorry but you will have to give me more than a week’s time for me to buy myself a tux and prepare my vows (maybe I can steal my ex’s. She really got me hook line and sinker with her vows on that fatal day :D

Will be around as much as I can, with the Open really simmering now.

Regarding Mandy’s 2nd serve – blame it on the agassi inspired, slow-condition forced generation which will just not tolerate a mediocre 2nd serve. The serve is so much more under the scanner with slower conditions than the 90s and the racquet technology. Federer, Nadal, Djokovic and murray himself just punish you bad if you so much as slip on the 2nd serve. much lesser margin for error than the 90s but then again, you have a much better chance at breaking than in the 90s, so….

Anyway, Mandy will be fine. He’s just got to keep the hardwork going. It is just a question of when with him and the Majors and/or No.1 ranking. As many have noted, these back to back Master’s are tiring, so, we must agree he did quite a good job of protecting his “heel”. He has got to do that over 7 best of 5 sets and that’s a challenge he will have to surmount :) For roger. rafa and andy’s sake, lets hope it is not this year he surmounts that challenge! ;)


Long Live the King Says:

Dear Mindy,

Rafa has never defended a title outside of clay and Novak has never defended any title on any surface. May be you can welcome them both to the pressure of “top-rung-tennis”?

Murray swapped cincy title last year with Montreal this year and Toronto semi last year with cincy semi this year. Sounds like even stevens to me.

Now lets see the ledger for Rafa – Montreal Quarters with toronto title. OUCH! Lets hear you talk about knees and stomach and what not now!

Sincerely,

Long Live The King.

CC : Voicemale1

P.S :- Good Going inciting both Roger and Nole fans. Great way to get Rafa ripped more on these boards! With fans like you….


Veno Says:

Von Says:

Veno: Have you taken a look at Pen Pilot’s draw? This year’s draw consists of some top quality players and could turn out to be an exciting tournament. Will you be watching?

Yes I have taken a looksy already…
Look at who didn’t qualify this weekend? Among them number 1 on the list Richard Gasquet, he lost in Q2.

Sam Querry could actually win the US Open Series if he wins 2 matches after his bye….

Should be some good tennis there…What you think? A Davy-”Spanish Ken doll” Verdasco final?


Von Says:

Long Live: Yes, born British and lived there until the ripe old age of 19, got married and made it to the US. I think it would be fair to say, having lived my entire adult life in the US, that I’m more American than British in customs, etc.

To refresh your memory, we had discussed us playing a tennis match at Flushing Meadows prior to or during the USO this year. LOL.

“And what’s with all the negativity. Doesn’t suit you one bit. Check out Andy roddick on twitter and maybe that will keep you positive. :) Andy playing doubles is a good idea, but given that Andy is a good “show-man” I am sure he will always be in the lime-light like Agassi. He is just made for entertainment – tennis/SNL make your pick :)”

Haven’t you noticed the albatross that has hung itself around my neck, who’s been targeting Roddick and myself continuously on this site, calling him ‘an also ran’ and ‘a has been’, and every lovely un-called for name that a demented mind can come up with? And if I defend him, then I’m treated to an onslaught of verbal abuse non-stop. Nowadays, my name is just inserted without any reason whatsoever, but just for the mere joy derived from harassment. See below comments and that’s just the tip of the iceberg, not to mention the meddlesome posters who have to get their digs in also.

http://www.tennis-x.com/xblog/2009-08-23/2136.php#comment-91257

http://www.tennis-x.com/xblog/2009-08-23/2136.php#comment-91266

also, at 9:28 am, 11:02 am, and again at 11:28 am. It becomes tiring you know and is a real joy killer. For instance, I came here this morning to watch and comment on Fed’s match and those attacks were a huge turn off. But guess what, mission accomplished, because I then retreated to my TV and refrained from joining in with the other posters, which translates to a happy and ecstatic albatross/amoeba.

I agree with you that Murray will be fine, but he’s under a lot of pressure to defend a ton of points, and it will take some getting used to, but when he does, he’ll emerge stronger mentally. I concur, the b2b Masters are very tiring, especially the NA hardcourt tourneys and are the most difficult ones to defend.

Long Live, nice chatting with you and am glad to know you’ll be stopping by more frequently for the USO. Great tennis days are ahead — 7 days and counting.


Von Says:

Veno: Glad to know you took a look-see:

“Look at who didn’t qualify this weekend? Among them number 1 on the list Richard Gasquet, he lost in Q2.”

what a shame really. the guy’s got so much talent but has accumulated a lot of rust sitting on the fences and waiting for the drug testing czars to make their decision. I hope he can get some more match play soon to kick-start his game once again.

I’d like to see Fish or one of the Americans win a title, as they are pretty deficient in that department, but if it’s Verdasco then I’ll have to listen to the ESPN orator ad nauseum and ad infinitum talk about his many talents. OY VEY and LOL!


Twocents Says:

Veno,

After Fed’s 12th slam at USO-07 and then his 4th TMC cup in Shanghai, I told myself that he’s more likely to go down than up from now on, but he does not need to prove anything to me — he’s got a stellar career, anything more is bonus. So far, the bonus keeps coming :-)). No complain there.

So, I was and am still the broken record of Fed’s in decline. And yes, he still needs to prove that he’s as good as his own 04-06. I could not tell his sudden turn on of return-of-service in the last two matches had more to do with the opponent’s form combined his own focus on winning, or due to his own improvement of his ROS skill. I do notice that Fed’s big improvement on mixing of shots thus even less energy wasting in his overall already-very-efficient game. Good adjustment for a long lasting career.

Nobody beats time. It’s just a matter of how fast or how slow and how winding the decline is. Fast courts favours youth most. Thus, USO08 showed me that Fed could still hold the wolf pack on fast court.

Bring on USO09.


scineram Says:

Gladly hear Bryans crash. How was the match tiebreak?


Giner Says:

Did someone say being a dad was meant to hamper Roger Federer?


Long Live the King Says:

Von honey,

Sorry to see those stupid posts. HUGS! Sending some warm hugs and comforting kisses your way :)

As you aptly say – demented posts! I say just dont feed these trolls. Meanwhile keep yourself strong with twitter-therapy :) I know its really hard (even though I have never been targetted myself by trolls) but concentrate on the good and sane posts. We will wait for the demented ones to die a natural death. :)

On a lighter note, you are fast becoming the Federer of tennis-x :D With lot of such trolls, maybe it is time Sean writes a “Von hater” blog ;)

Thanks for refreshing my memory regarding our tennis match. I almost bought myself a tux thinking it to be an entirely different “match”. LOL

So let me know the time and date and we can play our match in queens :)


Von Says:

Long Live:

Thanks for the hugs and kisses sent my way, I’m feeling them and more elated already! LOL. You know what, you’re a real sweetheart now that I’ve come to know you, and you share my sense of humor immensely. I’m smiling and laughing at the same time reading your nice post. Watch out for a comment from the troll as to my being syrupy with the posters — it’s guaranteed. LOL.

“So let me know the time and date and we can play our match in queens :)”

It’s a date! FYI, I lived about 10 minutes drive from the USO before I moved to Florida and had a corporate box seat available to me (and still do if need arises) at my disposal for every match there. Those were the good old days.

Long Live, thanks again for the encouragement and the hugs and kisses. mmmm yummmy!!


Dan Martin Says:

I am back in OH after a long but good week.

Did Agassi have 18 or 19 Super 9/Masters Series/Masters 1000 Series events?


Veno Says:

The rankings(yes it’s me: Number Nerd Noob)

1) Federer: 12040 (10040 dropping USO’08)
2) Murray: 9610 ( 8210 )
3) Nadal: 9025 ( 8125 )
4) Djokovic: 7750 ( 6850 )
5) Roddick: 5800 ( 5300 )
6) Delpotro: 5405 ( 4825 dropping USO’08 and 80 DC pts to non-countable results, because he’ll post a 0 on Cincy)

So if Fed makes at least the 4th round at Flushings he will be guaranteed the number 1 spot after the USO. Nadal and Murray will battle for second and Novak will try to gain on them both while watching over his shoulder to A-Rod….

Good times indeed to be a tennis enthusiast!


Veno Says:

Dan, Agassi has won 17 in total…


Skorocel Says:

Well done, Roger! Beating back to back 2 of your 3 biggest rivals en route to the title, well, that’s what I call a step in the right direction!


Von Says:

Veno: Nadal and Murray are very, very close to switching places. And, the same goes for Roddick and DelPotro. I had mentioned last year that the top 10 will be a revolving door, and it seems to me that will be the case all the way down to the YEC, until the last ball is struck. WOW, some very exciting times for tennis players and fans as well.


Kimmi Says:

Veno, thanks again for the ranking projection. The win this week put Roger in a good position going to USO. Great effort frm him…..


Veno Says:

It’s hard not to see Fed clinch the year end ranking for a 5th time(Pete had 6 consecutive) equalling Jimmy Connors and eclipsing J-Mac


Veno Says:

Good night Von! Keep it cool and remember, when that mosquito starts buzzing again, I’ll get my fly swatter out and it’ll be curtains hehehe

Bye Kimmi

And bye all, sweet dreams of tennis balls painting the lines at Flushing!!!


andrea Says:

ya roger.

novak’s family seem to be staying away from events these days which is nothing but a good sign.


Skorocel Says:

Btw, has anyone noticed what Fed did after that one rally in the beginning of the 2nd set? At 0-1, 40-40, he hit a somewhat misplaced overhead smash, which, unfortunately for him, Djoker read very well, firing a great passing FH winner past the stunned Fed. Well, I’m maybe following the Swiss’ career since 2003, but I can safely say, that was the FIRST TIME I saw him applaud an opponent’s shot!


Dan Martin Says:

This win helps Roger a lot with his quest to finish 2009 #1. The USO is the biggest prize left, the Masters Cup, and 2 Masters 1000 events, leave a lot of room for the rankings to shift.

Novak is too talented not to win some big prizes soon. Rafa looks like he can climb back into the mix, but I think the injury and layoff are more serious than the “it is all in his head” crowd thought. Murray is still having a great 2009, but I am sure he is not thrilled with the way the event ended for him. I do hope Querrey wins the U.S. Open series as Indy, LA, DC and New Haven are part of the series.


sensationalsafin Says:

Who said Cincy is so important just because Federer won it? I think what makes it pretty important is the fact that the top 4 made the semis. And a bunch of streaks were snapped (Fed over Murray, Djoker over Rafa, and Fed over Djoker) but a Masters is a Masters and Fed’s win is just as significant as Murray’s last week. I’m incredibly excited for this US Open simply because there is so little criticism for any given contender. Roddick’s loss is insignificant and he’s going to go deep. Del Potro will be well rested. Murray, Djokovic, and Federer have had really good results in the last 2 tournys. Tsonga isn’t doing too bad. Nadal is the only real question mark. But I’ve said it before, he’ll make it to week 2. It’s going to be an exciting 09 USO.


Dan Martin Says:

I have a column that will be up tomorrow or Tuesday that I think a lot of you will like.


i am it Says:

roddick will have 5810 because he will receive first round loser’s points from cinci. atp ranking points rule IX. E.2. and his 19th event queen’s points (90) will become non-countable so he will have 5720 tomorrow. sorry for being nerdy:)


i am it Says:

so tomorrow’s ranking points will be
federer 12,040
murray 9610
nadal 9025
djokovic 7660
roddick 5720
del potro 5325


jane Says:

I love that the big two, became the big three, big four. now big six, or more! It’s great that many of us think all top six guys have a shot at the next two hard-court slams.


i am it Says:

just a few minutes ago atp has updated the ranking points for tomorrow so this resolves all questions.


Joe W Says:

Jane:
“Shriekapova” is a good one. Man I would love to see elena win a major. She really has put the work in. Speaking of the USO and WTA sideline shenannigans, does anyone remember the 05 USO where elena was thumping mary pierce in the SF? Pierce took a couple of strategic trainer timeouts which wound up icing elena and allowed pierce to literally steal the match. Pierce got her just desserts via kim cljisters who beat her in the final. I’ll be pulling for Kim and Elena at the Open. Hell, I’d like to see anyone win the uso whose last name isn’t williams.

Dan, I believe that Agassi won 17 MS events.

Rafa is such a warrior. I played NCAA football with guys who were not half as tough as he is, and this is not a reference to kickers or quarterbacks (if rafa played american football he would most definitely be a middle or sam linebacker). Rafa has a serious abdominal strain and gritted his way thru that match when his opponent or anyone else would have thrown in the towel (with the exception of fed who doesn’t get enough credit for his toughness and pain threshold). I hope he gets well soon but imo he’s not present after week one of the open.

I’ll offer an alternative player tiering to what’s being bandied about. There’s Fed and Rafa and then everyone else. Mandy has yet to win a major, joker has one, and roddick is the only other player in the top ten to hold a major title. Fed and rafa hold 21 between them.


jane Says:

Hey Joe – haven’t seen you around in a while; hope your back is better. Fed and Rafa have been around a little longer than Djoko and Murray (even though Rafa is roughly the same age he turned pro really young and was in the mix immediately) so they have had a little more time to amass the titles. But yeah, they are a tier above. However, I think the 4 guys mentioned repeatedly – Djoko, Murray, Roddick and JMDP have set themselves apart from the “everyone else” field by repeatedly getting deep in events and on almost all surfaces too. So personally I wouldn’t lump them with everyone else – generally the top 8-10 guys are special. But the guys who can get to the top and STAY there for a sustained amount of time deserve to be considered in a tier above “everyone else” – so I kindly beg to differ to your alternative bandy. LOL.


Kimmi Says:

Why is Murray called “Mandy” ?


Ryan Says:

To Skorocel

“Well, I’m maybe following the Swiss’ career since 2003, but I can safely say, that was the FIRST TIME I saw him applaud an opponent’s shot!”

yeah i saw it too..it reminded me of fed vs sampras in wimbledon where in one of the points he applauds sampras for a great volley. But he has applauded good shots from djokovic in the past….for example in one point wen djok hits plain cold winner in ao 08 semi n another one in uo 09 semi for example fed says “too good”. He doesnt shout it out but if u observe u’ll notice.


Ryan Says:

To Skorocel

“Well, I’m maybe following the Swiss’ career since 2003, but I can safely say, that was the FIRST TIME I saw him applaud an opponent’s shot!”

yeah i saw it too..it reminded me of fed vs sampras in wimbledon where in one of the points he applauds sampras for a great volley. But he has applauded good shots from djokovic in the past….for example in one point wen djok hits plain cold winner in ao 08 semi( wen the score is 4-3 first set 30 -15)…check it out n another one in uo 08 semi(2-1 fourth set 30-0) for example fed says “too good”. He doesnt shout it out but if u observe u’ll notice. Even in their clay court meetings sometimes fed applauds his good shots.


tenisbebe Says:

Hi all. Am dead tired as haven’t slept more than 6 hrs a night in 17 days but am sad our Cincy grand slam is over. Watched Fed/Djoko and part of the doubles finals from a box down the service hash mark on the south court – a sweet spot! Veno – disagree that “Fed applied pressure there” at 3-0 in the second to get the break back – Nole donated that game to him. It was maddening! He was flat from the get go and Fed came out ready to play. I saw Novak leave the tennis center around 10:00pm Saturday night & he still had to eat dinner so not ideal recovery time for a Master’s final but Fed gets the early start as the Swiss are able to pay the big bucks for television coverage – money talks.

The talk was that Rafa had his abdomen taped (stomach tear? God forbid!) which restricted his core movement & service motion (80-90mph serves).

Cindy Brady – another bad “prediction” for you – stay away from Vegas…


tenisbebe Says:

Kimmi??? C’mon LOL – Andy M = Mandy. A very derogatory nickname imo. Muzza is the nickname some of his Brit fans use.


jane Says:

tenisbebe says “but Fed gets the early start as the Swiss are able to pay the big bucks for television coverage – money talks.”

Interesting – so Fed’s early starts at most of the big events have to do with Swiss TV coverage? I’ve always wondered why he always gets it, but assumed it was because he’s been number 1 and/or that he requests the early start.

Agree on your “donation” point – Djoko kind of “donated” the service break when Djok was serving at 5-5, as he hit that dumb dropper and basically gave Fed break point. Can’t stand that! I hope he learns from these kinds of mistakes. As I said on the other thread, maybe the addition of Martin and some new eyes on the team will help?

Thanks for you take on things; be sure to get some rest!!!


tenisbebe Says:

Jane – will post to you on the other thread.


Skorocel Says:

Ryan: Well, I must’ve missed something then… As far as I recall, that yesterday’s rally was the lone case which I remember. Guess I’ve heard him saying “too good” at times, but certainly never saw him applauding his opponent’s shots.


Mindy Says:

To Long Live the King,

With a name like that, I can see who and what I am dealing with here. But exactly what on earth were you trying to say? If you have to continue to try to trash Rafa, then I have nothing to say to you. It’s a waste of breath.

You know, the one thing that I really, really hate is when somebody decides to twist my words around. Are you disagreeing with my comment about Murray having to deal with more pressure? Are you saying that Rafa never defended any titles? What planet are you living on? Or did you just forget those RG consecutive wins. You know, the tournamen that Roger, the would-be GOAT, never won until Rafa got injured. Duh!

If you want to take me on, then make an intelligent point, otherwise don’t waste my time.


Mindy Says:

Dan,

I am curious as to why you think Rafa’s injury may be more serious than originally thought. Also, I am not part of the crowd that ever thought it was “all in his head”.

I think he played much better than expected, but he is having trouble getting his form back. That little abdominal problem concerns me, but hopefully that will resolve itself in this week before the Open. I can’t see Rafa’s doctor letting him play if he thought that the knee wasn’t sufficiently healed. I just don’t think they would risk any more serious or permanent injury. Rafa seemed to be moving really well and feeling good. I didn’t expect him to have the consistency in his play at this point in time.

I do think this injury was more serious than the other tendinitis issues he has had. It was more serious because he tried to play through the pain, even taking oral anti-inflammatories and injections in Madrid and the RG to try to continue to play. That was a huge mistake.

I have enjoyed reading the predictions for the favorites to win the Open. I think if Rafa can get through the first week and get back into better form, then he could be a factor in the second week. I am not making any predictions about him at this point. I know he isn’t playing his best yet, so it’s not realistic to know what will happen. I like him being under the radar. I like the fact that so many are not rating him very high. He could end up suprising a lot of people. He’s like that.


Joe W Says:

Jane – point taken. However my focus was on GS hardware and two of the four players you mention haven’t kissed the champ’s trophy yet. And my prediciton is they will have to wait until 2010 to do so.

“The details of my life are quite inconsequential”
–Dr Evil


jane Says:

Hey Joe – true, but there is a first time for GS hardware. And there’s a second time as well. Maybe there’ll be a 7th or 16th time too. We’ll see eh?

I have a strange feeling about Murray and/or JMDP. Murray is itching for a slam title, and NYC is the place where he loves to play most. JMDP is also very determined. And he was right with Murray for a couple of sets at Montreal, but he just faded; I think he’ll be rested for this slam though since he skipped Cincy. He also played Fed very closely at the French. But out of the two, I think Murray is more ready to take that step. He’ll take a lot away from the match he and Fed just played, I assume. Clearly Fed’s the top fave, but I won’t rule out other possibilities for who might be standing on the podium in a few Sundays from now.


Veno Says:

Thanks I am it for clearing it up…You were right..

They get 10 pts for R32 now and I forgot to drop the 19th result from Novak Djokovic and Andy Roddick


Veno Says:

we could get:

QF: Fed-JMDP
SF: Fed-Rafa
F: Fed-Murray

QF: Murray-Roddick
SF: Murray-Nadal
F: Murray-Fed

QF: Nadal-Roddick
SF: Nadal-Fed
F: Nadal-Djokovic

and it goes on and on…

Shuffle up and deal!


Veno Says:

hey bebe, it’s good to disagree sometimes :)

I know he donated the game to Fed at 5-5(silly dropper) but not at 1-3 up in the second…

He got an easy hold to go up 3-0(he held to 15) and fed took exactly 1 minute to get to 3-1 to love. And he hit 2 great returns in the next game on Novak’s first serve(1 of them was a return winner just inside the line in Novak’s add-court while Novak serving at 15 all) and with a Novak second serve, he ran around his bh to hammer a FH winner past Novak in the deuce court… If that’s not pressure, I don’t know what is. Furthermore he had been in almost every Novak service game…


Von Says:

Veno: A shout out to you. I’m sorry I didn’t say goodnight as I had stopped posting when I saw the Bryans lost once again to Nestor and Zim.
___________
tenisbebe: No this has not been the biggest win for Zimonjic; he’s had about six (6) big wins since hooking up with Nestor.


Von Says:

Veno: “Furthermore he had been in almost every Novak service game…”

I mentioned in my first post on the match that Djokovic was having difficulty due to Federer being in every one of his service games. Djoko’s first game had about 5(?) deuces, yes?


Joe W Says:

Hey Jane – yes there’s never a sure match outcome in tennis unless Davydenko is involved. LOL.
Until Fed beat Murray at Cincy he was my pick for USO. But I don’t know now. Although Fed is a little stubborn at times, I think his biggest and least mentioned accomplishment this year was solving Murray’s and Nadal’s game and this should provide him with a lot of confidence going into the Open. He’s moving well, striking the ball well, and has his emotions and competitors strengths/weaknesses under control for the first time in a while. He is such a great tactical or on-court problem solver but doesn’t always see the big picture (going back to his stubbornness). Murray needs to get his emotions under control. I posted a while back that he reminds me of a modern day lendl, having to play the bridesmaid for a while before he breaks through. But once he does he could dominate the game for a while. Of course we’re talking about possibilities. I don’t want you to think that I’m another Fed zealot – although I’m a huge fan of his – but for me comparing Murray/Juan Martin to Federer is like comparing the Orioles first round draft choice to Cal Ripken. He’ll earn my respect when he holds up the GS H/W


jane Says:

Fair enough Joe W. And I know you’re not a zealot ; )

Fed, at Cincy, looked the best I’ve seen him in a while. Even at the French, there were some shaky matches, and the Wimbledon final could’ve gone either way. Then he lost to Tsonga in Canada. But in this last Masters Series event he did seem so in control of point, so motivated to attack. And he was making less errors than we’ve seen, no shanked forehands or backhands (or few of them anyhow). He did have a scare with Ferrer; realistically he could’ve even lost there as Ferrer was up a break on him and really handed it back with an incredibly bad service game. So while Fed is indeed looking excellent for the Open, and in terms of betting I’d say he’s the tops (not that I bet or anything – and hey wasn’t Davy cleared of that scandal? :)), I do think that an upset is not out of the question.


Kimmi Says:

Tenisbebe: “Kimmi??? C’mon LOL – Andy M = Mandy. A very derogatory nickname imo. Muzza is the nickname some of his Brit fans use.”

Why ? is this name been used a lot ? I saw it only last night, didn’t ring a bell. I agree that it sounds derogatory, female like… must be someone who did not like Murray started that. I heard about Muzza, is much better and I like it very much.


tenisbebe Says:

Kimmi – Why? Who knows – some people like to slam others using this tactic, in this case insinuating he plays like a girl?


margot Says:

Long Live The King: your letter from Roger made me laugh and I too am an Andy M./Djko fan. However, if one is an Andy M fan one needs a certain sense of humour!
jane: would indeed love to see Andy M on podium but if his first serve is not working he will be out b4 the second week. Also, for someone who has had 5 weeks off he looked awful tired/jaded against Fed. Did u know he has congentital problem with is knee?


jane Says:

Yep margot – I know about the split patella. That can always flare up too. But I’ve been reading a bit this morning and in his post-match interview after the Cincy semi Murray talked about fatigue possibly being a factor versus Roger, not because he wasn’t rested but because in the past two weeks, he had played all of his matches in the day and of course had played more having won in Canada. He didn’t play one evening match and perhaps he was a bit worn out from the constant heat/humidity. Not sure if that’s much of a factor or not, but he certainly wasn’t returning or serving his best in that semi. Even Fed talked about muscle fatigue in Montreal, because even though these guys have been on a break that can work to their detriment too.


Skorocel Says:

Joe W said: „Although Fed is a little stubborn at times, I think his biggest and least mentioned accomplishment this year was solving Murray’s and Nadal’s game and this should provide him with a lot of confidence going into the Open. He’s moving well, striking the ball well, and has his emotions and competitors strengths/weaknesses under control for the first time in a while.“

Well, although Federer in the past used to say something to the extent of: „It usually takes me a couple of matches in order to figure my opponents out“, I wouldn’t be that sure as to whether it applies to Nadal & Murray as well…

„yes there’s never a sure match outcome in tennis unless Davydenko is involved. LOL.“

LOL too :-)


huh Says:

“Ryan Says:
“he is given far too much credit for a mediocre game, because he won a lot in a weak field”

well this weak field of players are the ones beating the strong field these days….haas beats djokovic in wim 09 n roddick beats murray. Gonzo beats murray in the french , kohlschreiber beats djokovic in fo 09 , roddick beats djokovic in ao 09. Wat bout madrid 09 wen fed beat nadal in the final on clay…no excuses there.As soon as fed beats these guys then it becomes a weak field….this year was supposed to be a strong field of players with murray nadal n djok….wat happened…fed still won 2 majors…ur theory sux. Maybe micheal jordan , ali , phelps r all given too much credit coz they dominated a weak field…get a grip”

Brilliant answer and well said man!


huh Says:

“Skorocel Says:
Well done, Roger! Beating back to back 2 of your 3 biggest rivals en route to the title, well, that’s what I call a step in the right direction!

Ha ha! :)

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