Breaking Down the US Open Final: Federer v. Del Potro
by Sean Randall | September 14th, 2009, 2:17 pm
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Doing the impossible, doing what’s never been done before in a Grand Slam event is what stands before Juan Martin Del Potro. Today, the menacing but gentle 6-foot-6 Argentine will try to make history by becoming the first player to ever beat Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal in the same Grand Slam.

In the men’s final, which begins at 4pm on CBS, Del Potro will try to complete his incredible summer of fun by defeating Federer for his first career Grand Slam title.

Yesterday, Del Potro simply destroyed Nadal handing the Spaniard his worst career beating ever at a Grand Slam (Rafa won a career-low six games in a Major). The result wasn’t a huge surprise given DelPo’s level of play and the odds that Nadal’s been battling, but the composure and focus the Argy showed sent a message (at least to me) that the big guy is really ready to take that next step.

But the guy on the other side of the net today is also of sound mind, body and being. And he’s at home. Federer’s  won 40 straight matches at the US Open, 20 straight in Grand Slam play and he’s been at his near-dominant self again these two weeks in New York.

Federer still has had some bumps en route to the finals. He didn’t look superb in early round wins over Devin Britton or Simon Greul and he nearly went to a fifth against Robin, but the Swiss really picked up his play and regained some of the Federer Magic in a convincing win yesterday over Novak Djokovic (the “tweener” shot he hit against Novak to set up match point was one of the truly great points of all time!).

And Roger will likely need to maintain that high level if he wants that 16th career Grand Slam because I think Del Potro’s going to show up today and play good tennis.

Head-to-head Federer has won all six career meetings against DelPo. In their first five contests Federer went 12-0 in sets, but in the French Open semifinals it was DelPo breaking through, gaining the upper hand on arguably not his best surface (clay) to lead a pressured Fed 2-1 in sets before letting it slip away.

But the match today I think is on a more favorable surface for DelPo. Problem is that a fast hardcourt also suits Federer.

That said, here’s my breakdown of the final.

SERVE
Advantage: Federer
I give a slight edge here to Federer. DelPo’s got the bigger serve his delivery has more “upside”. But Federer serve has stood up to the test of time and to pressure situations as we saw at Wimbledon. For DelPo the serve is more important. Fed’s been serving in the 50% this event and he can get by with that same number today. But if DelPo serves poorly he’s in for a long afternoon.

RETURN
Advantage: Del Potro
I like Del Potro here. If Federer fails to properly place his second serve I think Del Potro can jump all over it. And we know Federer rarely takes full cuts on his service return usually opting for the slice chip to just get the ball back in play.

FOREHAND
Advantage: Even
Federer’s forehand is still among the best in the game and generally better than DelPo’s but we again some a few misfires yesterday and if DelPo gets hot, he can smack that flat ball of his all around the court.

BACKHAND
Advantage: Del Potro
DelPo backhand’s is fast becoming one of the top shots in the game. The guy hits it harder off that wing than anyone in the game right now while Federer’s is still very mistake-prone

GROUNDSTROKES
Advantage: Del Potro
Part of Nadal’s problem with Del Potro is that the high amount of spin he puts on the ball lands right into DelPo’s strike zone on both sides, forehand and backhand. Federer also puts a ton of his action on his ball and while his ball won’t jump quite like Rafa’s, I can see many shots landing right where DelPo wants it. I also think DelPo will be a little more consistent off the ground so I give a small edge to the Argentine here. However, Del Potro’s flat, powerful strokes shouldn’t trouble Fed much, unless Fed is dropping his ball short allowing JMDP to pounce!

VOLLEY/NET GAME
Advantage: Federer
DelPo’s is fast improving in this are, but Federer’s still far superior. Plus Fed’s added that drop shot to go along with the “chip and dip” backhand slice both of which I’m sure he’ll use today to bring DelPo into the net, especially if Roger is being pushed off the ground.

INTANGIBLES
Advantage: Federer
Federer has 15 Slams and his sixth straight US Open final. For Federer playing in these title matches is becoming old hat. Not so for DelPo who’s making his Grand Slam final debut. As I said, I think DelPo will be able to handle the moment but this is the biggest match of his career and nerves will surely be a factor.

END RESULT
Advantage: Federer
For me this final falls on Federer’s racquet. If he’s on his game he’ll be able to handle DelPo’s serve and pace – remember how infrequently big servers actually out ace Federer! Mentally and physically Federer should be sharp and well-rested and I think the same for Del Potro. But I think the pressure and the moment will eventually get to Del Potro.

I had Federer to beat Del Potro at the start of the tournament, and while I’d love to see the upset happen, I’m sticking with my initial pick and taking Roger in four sets today. It’s so hard to win in your first major appearance and I think that will weight just enough on DelPo for Fed to slip by.

Let’s just hope for a good, competitive match. We haven’t had a lot of drama in the US Open final for quite some time. Maybe today’s the day.


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895 Comments for Breaking Down the US Open Final: Federer v. Del Potro

sensationalsafin Says:

Epic.


blah Says:

You left out movement, one of the most important things, lol. But yeah, Federer is top in that category as well. He’ll win in 4 sets.


blah Says:

Serve and Return are both very close. DelPo needs a great serving day, especially toward end of sets, to have a chance.


FoT Says:

1. Del Portro came out smoking against Nadal and knew he could win because he has beaten Nadal on hard courts before whereas he has never beaten Roger. He gave it his best shot at the French and still came out short, so that might play into the match;

2. Roger had tremendous pressure on him at the French because EVERYONE thought he would win it since Nadal had been knocked out but Roger is playing more ‘freely’ at this tournament than he did at the French.

3. Normally Roger handles ‘power’ a little better than Nadal. Nadal has problems with the hard hitters (Blake, Tsonga, Youzhny, Del Potro) whereas Roger usually handles these type players pretty well.)

4. This is Del Potro’s first grand slam. Heck – has he hasn’t even won a Master’s event yet? I mean, this is a big step up. It will be interesting to see how he handle his nerves. Remember last year Roger said he was suppose to be the veteran and he had cold sweaty hands and was really nervous. Can you imagine how Del Potro will be feeling? Roger did handle his first grand slam in 2003 at Wimbledon – but then again, he wasn’t playing a “living legend” in that final either.

5. Roger hasn’t lost in a grand slam final against anyone not named Nadal. Last time I looked, it wasn’t Juan Martin Nadal. So that give me hope.

All that to say – I hope Roger will come out and play the match of his life to win this 6th straight championship. You know there is a reason why no one in 30-40 years have managed to win 6th straight. But then no one else is like Roger.

LET’S GO ROGER – LET’S GO!!!!

Congratulations to Del Potro for making his first grand slam final, but he’s still young and he’ll have many more chances in the future. I want Roger get try to get as many slams as he can while he can.


ckr Says:

I hope Del Potro wins. Enough with Fed and his sweet 16. Tennis is getting so boring. It’s about time these young guns step up and take a cup or two. We have already seen enough history with 15 GS…


Scottish Says:

Well I was in for a treat when the semis came along. All 3 of my top guys being there. Djoko has impressed me so much this summer that he is probably my #4 right now and I was cheering for him all the way up to the semis.

But today is really a day that is so great for tennis. We have the best against a future star. Maybe this is DP’s day and he will have deserved it to beat the 2 best players on the tour right now. Maybe it’s Fed’s day and he will have deserved it by playing some great tennis to get here as well. Either way tennis wins.


Polifka Says:

Go Roger!

Go Del Potro!


grendel Says:

On the serve: one enormously impressive feature of Delpo’s serving has been his tendency to pull out an ace when in trouble – even when his serve has been slightly off. In this respect, he is beginning to match Federer.

Nerves: you never know with this one. You might think the novice would suffer more, but sometimes sheer enthusiasm carries him/her through the dark times.

The veteran, you would suppose, can draw on experience when crisis looms. In fact, the older the sportsman gets, the more he tends to get afflicted by an attack of nerves. I wonder whether this might be on account of just getting worn down. There’s only so many times you’re prepared to face the tiger, after a number of successful confrontations, before you start to think – I expect he’s going to get me this time.

As against that, as Djokovic pointed out, Federer is looking noticeably relaxed in these championships…..


Kimo Says:

Let’s go Roger and Juan Martin. :)


Dan Martin Says:

Federer needs to take care of his serve and keep the ball low and angled whenever he can. JMDP needs to do what he did in Paris and not get his serve broken in the first 3 sets. If he serves big like that it will free him up on his return game. JMDP needs to dictate, Federer needs to keep the ball out of JMDP’s favored strike zone – whomever can establish the tone will likely win. Federer could win if JMDP is setting the tone, but he will be the underdog. However, if Roger is setting the tone I don’t see JMDP able to scramble out of that so Fed as a slight favorite even if I picked JMDP to win on the radio last week.


Kimo Says:

What’s with the Star Wars music???


Shaky Says:

DUN DUN DUN DUN-DA-DUN DUN-DA-DUN

(Darth Federer, Kimo.)


i am it Says:

good people, welcome to the US Open Finals 2009!
players are already on the court.

ugly people, go to other threads.


i am it Says:

Go 5th setter !


fed is afraid Says:

this could be like when the old guy sampras was beaten by safin.
hope it’s a good match.


i am it Says:

at least this is a 50-50 match at the start of the match.


Kimo Says:

Shaky said:

“Darth Federer, Kimo.”

That’s actually pretty clever. And he’s in black too. :D


i am it Says:

fed’s afraid he might not have a big enough showcase to dump his trophies.


Ty Says:

Ummmm. please God don’t tell me that this makeover show is going to be playing on CBS instead of the final.


i am it Says:

temperature 80 degrees.


Ty Says:

Please don’t make me send a mail bomb to the local CBS programer.


Shaky Says:

Kimo they did this when he won in ’07 too I think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljJLPKSeSAo

Fed is Afraid: or it can be like when Murray sort of laid an egg out there last year.

I’m hoping for a middle ground: a Andre-Federer match that’s very close. I don’t really care who wins at this point, but I’d rather not see 3 6-3 sets.


Ty Says:

Is anyone else not getting the match on CBS?


i am it Says:

easy point on 2nd serve for fed. then his 1st serve are unreturnable.
but dePo takes a point in the 1st game. fed is firing bullets early on. he looks vicious and is intent on staying aggressive and dictate the play.


i am it Says:

fed wants to break in dePo’s opening game.


i am it Says:

dePo is not serving right. fed is attacking the net. good sign for fed.


Kimo Says:

Fed’s experience already showing.


Ty Says:

Well, tennis is definitely dead in the part of the country. Thankfully the usopen.org livestream is playing.


Veno Says:

Hi all!!!

Let’s have us a good match! Go Fed and Go Delpo!


Kimo Says:

See what Fed did right there? He is right on the bseline when he returns, unlike Nadal who was a good 3m behind the baseline.


i am it Says:

fed pounds on dePo’s 2nd serve. dePo faces a break point but saves.


Veno Says:

JMDP is the king of brushing away break points!


Veno Says:

Good point Kimo, he will pressure Delpo. Juan Martin will have to serve really well and push Fed back.

Great play from Juan Martin again. Great tennis do far!


Kimo Says:

Delpo still has the sting on his groundies. This will be a good match.


Veno Says:

IF Delpo can scrape out this game, will be good!


Sean Randall Says:

Nervy start for DelPo.


Veno Says:

Good to see they’re both starting aggressive!


Dan Martin Says:

JMDP has to deny Federer any chance to hit angles. If he gets pulled off of the court, his chances of winning the point drop a great deal.


Kimo Says:

Fed looks sharp. He started this match better than yesterday’s


Veno Says:

4 break points saved. He is the king of doing that, also against Nadal


Kimo Says:

Go ROGERRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!


Veno Says:

My goodness, what a point!

Poor Delpo


Dan Martin Says:

He earned that service break – oh my! I remember Sampras breaking Agassi to win the first set in 1995 and it was an awesome point, but that was unreal.


i am it Says:

fed has another break point. he’s the aggressor of the moment.
dePo cannot get his 1st serve in. 1 out of 9.
but a nice forehand from dePo saves it again.
dePo misses.
fed has 3rd break point.
big serve and back up forehand. dePo deuces.
fed rips one. 4th break point.
big serve. deuce 4.
2nd serve. dePo mistimes.
5th break point.
2nd serve.
wow. what a point from fed, a great forehand passing shot from an impossible place !
dePo could not believe.


Kimo Says:

Fed has already done in two games what Nadal didn’t do in three sets: Break Delpo.


Veno Says:

Fed inside the baseline….


i am it Says:

insane forehand bullet from fed in the corner.


i am it Says:

if this is how it’s gonna go, it will be quick 3 set win.


Ty Says:

Hahaha… those poor poor bastards at work right now DVR’ing this only later to come home and find “Dr Makeover” recorded are going to probably go ballistic.


Veno Says:

Last Argentinian in the Open final was Vilas in ’77 right? He beat Connnors on Clay was it? Anyone know?


i am it Says:

great tennis so far.
it can get better if dePo starts finding his serve and strike zone.


Kimo Says:

Roger imo is winning the “powerful groundies” battle.


Dan Martin Says:

The next 30 minutes with the shadows should be interesting.


Veno Says:

Delpo on the board! Good for him.
When he hits his 1st serves…different ball game


Veno Says:

Wow, good tactics by Fed, making Delpo move forward..


i am it Says:

a great back hand oassing shot from fed. dePo cannot reach.


Dan Martin Says:

Slice backhands, the drop shot and a few net approaches to keep JMDP off balance so far.


i am it Says:

and he follows that with a drop shot.
he looks infallible.


Veno Says:

The shades not making it easy, agree Dan…


i am it Says:

fed is using his speed to deflect dePo’s power.


Kimo Says:

Boy, Fed looks REALLY sharp. These volleys are the best he’s hit all year.


Dan Martin Says:

Key hold after 30-30 – the shadows are going to mess with both players, but typically the server is at an advantage so breaking with the shadows might be easier due to disrupting normalcy.


Veno Says:

Amazing what variation Fed uses. In 5 games pick you could already make a good trainung video.

Hope DelPo klings on…He will. The kid is tough!


i am it Says:

the speed, movement, and variety fed is using are not answerable.
most of all, the speed is freaking dePo out.


i am it Says:

2 jacks are in the audience.


Veno Says:

He isn’t letting Juan Martin get any rhythm going at all. Smart


Veno Says:

went for it there…Delpo has to hold here….


i am it Says:

so far dePo has failed to get his 1st serve in.


Veno Says:

Great serves! Delpo is tough and scrapes the game…good for him


Veno Says:

0-30…here we go!


Veno Says:

Painted the line again…He hits that spot so many times


MMT Says:

Yes, Vilas was the last (and only) Argentine to win he US Open. It was in 1977 against Jimmy Connors and it was on clay. A side bar: Connors refused to shake hands with Vilas when he was mobbed after winning match point on a VERY late out call by the line judge. Another side-bar: Starting with Jimmy Connors in 1974 and ending with John McEnroe in 1984, the US Open was won by a left handed player for 11 STRAIGHT years:

1974 Connors (Rosewall)
1975 Orantes (Connors)
1976 Connors (Borg)
1977 Vilas (Connors)
1978 Connors (Borg)
1979 McEnroe (Gerulaitis)
1980 McEnroe (Borg)
1981 McEnroe (Borg)
1982 Connors (Lendl)
1983 Connors (Lendl)
1984 McEnroe (Lendl)


tenisbebe Says:

the lob is not working for delpo today. give it up…


Veno Says:

My goodness…0-30 and stays ubercool and holds…


i am it Says:

dePo had a chance at 0-30, but fed denies him easily.


tenisbebe Says:

have i said how much I love my new HDTV?


Kimo Says:

Fed is just too good and too consistent and too fast and too powerful for Delpo in this first set.


Ty Says:

Great hold there. I’m thinking that if Delpo can get the butterflies out and keep Federer in baseline rallies he has a pretty decent chance to make this pretty competitive.


Dan Martin Says:

MMT interesting if you add 1985 12 straight years of Mac or Jimbo in the final.


Ty Says:

tennisbebe: I was waiting with so much anticipation to get my first US open final in HD, as I just bought a new TV yesterday. And CBS isn’t even broadcasting the match in my region. What a pathetic network they are.


Veno Says:

Nice overview MMT….Thanks, I love these kind things :)

I knew for those 11 years either Jimbo or J-Mac or both played the final, but didn’t know in that span it was always won by a lefty…


Veno Says:

’85 was Lendl’s first beating J-Mac?


i am it Says:

holy cow, did you see the drop volley from fed?


Kimo Says:

How good is Roger’s forehand dropshot!!! He didn’t even have that shot until last year!!!


i am it Says:

triple set point. this is a bad for dePo.


Veno Says:

Juan Martin stays cool and saves 3 setpoints


Kimo Says:

Fed getting a little too casual again :(


i am it Says:

dePo takes next 5 points and holds. 5-3.


Veno Says:

Some impressive poinnts from Delpo there…Didn’t dunk the set. Good to see


Dan Martin Says:

Federer is not going to be able to just play his short game and win after these saves from JMDP. I am sure he hoped just doing that would be enough but knows he can go to other gears so big game here.


tenisbebe Says:

Ty – are you sure??? I’m getting it on their HD channel 912. They pre-empted the soap operas to show this – what a bummer for you. Can you tape it in HD when they do show it on your DVR? I bought mine the weekend before the tournament started due to my other TV getting water damage (long story) & I LOVE IT!!!!!

why couldn’t Juan have played like this yesterday????? Matchups. Fed is only serving at 35% – sheesh.


i am it Says:

vilas is in the audience.


Veno Says:

first ace…


i am it Says:

fed slices his serve wide. game. set. ….


Veno Says:

tenisbebe says:

why couldn’t Juan have played like this yesterday????? Matchups. Fed is only serving at 35% – sheesh.

I reckon you would have liked to see Rafa reach the final?(just a question)


tenisbebe Says:

i am it Says: “vilas is in the audience.” It is his second career, attending every GS SF & Final the globe over.


Ty Says:

tenisbebe: It is on the schedule for CBS. I just checked TV Guide channel and their website. It SHOULD be on but for some reason it isn’t. There are showing some Dr.Makeover crap. I already called my cable provider, they didn’t know anything.

Live stream is in HD but it’s not at great, oh well looks like it is going to be a short day anyways if Fed keeps this up.


Dan Martin Says:

Playing Soderling in the quarters was a help for Federer as it was a similar game plan (although JMDP is better than Soderling).


tenisbebe Says:

Veno – You got it! Lordy, Delpo played lights out yesterday – good movement, hitting off both sides, serving. Today he is a different player. ARRRRRR


Veno Says:

Juan Martin has to start sharp…can’t allow to give up his serve now….Come on Juan Martin!


i am it Says:

looks like dePo is frustrated.
about to be broken again in the 1st game.


Kimo Says:

This is getting real ugly real fast.


Dan Martin Says:

4th service game he has faced break points – not good.


i am it Says:

triple break point? 10th so far?


tenisbebe Says:

Ty – Bummer. That is so frustrating. What time zone are you in?


Veno Says:

true bebe, but that’s because Fed won’t let him play like yesterday…


i am it Says:

dePo is all nervous. 2 double fault gives fed a break.


Dan Martin Says:

I don’t think he breaks Roger twice this set so now at best he can hope for a tiebreaker this set. Anti-climactic so far


Kimmi Says:

MMmmmmmmmmm, break early does not bode well here for del po…is he nervous of fed is too good ?


Kimo Says:

Veno said:

“true bebe, but that’s because Fed won’t let him play like yesterday…”

Bingo.


Veno Says:

Come on Juan Martin!!!!!!!!!! Remember Cilic(let’s hope people….)


Ty Says:

tenisbebe: Central, but I think it is more the local network fopait then a time zone screw up.

Two doubles in 1 game.. Ouch.


i am it Says:

i am disappointed with dePo. hoped a little better from him.
he cannot serve and cannot hit inside the court.


Dan Martin Says:

JMDP so far is nervous and not believing he can win. Add to that Roger is playing pretty well minus the double faults and this is bad so far.


Veno Says:

Both men are serving horrible….


Kimo Says:

Kimmi said:

“is he nervous of fed is too good ?”

Both. And Fed can even serve better than he already has.


MMT Says:

Another interesting fact: 2009 is the third year in a row that no American has featured in the final. This is the 4th time in the history of the tournament that no American has featured in the final for 3 years and the first time since 1989 (Becker def Lendl). That was the only 4 year period of American absenteeism from the final.

Any bets on whether the record will be matched next year?


Veno Says:

Wow, nice S&V…good hands


Ty Says:

Think back to when you were 20 years old… then think about putting yourself in front of 20,000 people against arguably the greatest player ever and a player you respect more than any other player. Pretty tough to go out there and hit lights out.


tenisbebe Says:

Veno “true bebe, but that’s because Fed won’t let him play like yesterday…” Yes, and also it’s about matchups: Delpo is not a good matchup for Rafa as the topspin ends up right in the big guys strike zone.


i am it Says:

fed’s winners 42 vs. dePo’s 28.
fed is molesting dePo worse than dePo did to rafa yesterday.
brutally one sided.


Veno Says:

Come on Juan Martin…Keep fighting and enjoying!!!


Kimo Says:

LOL. Fed is enjoying himself out there. He’s as cool as a cucumber.


tenisbebe Says:

Ty – yes, that’s why it’s amazing when young players are NOT overwhelmed by the Fed aura: Nadal at 18 yrs old, DJ at 20.

Veno – doesn’t look like he’s enjoying it too much…


Dan Martin Says:

He has to start holding serve that is step 1. Not good to be down a set and a break, but if he starts holding regularly it could be like Soderling and he could force some tie breaks etc.


Ty Says:

Maybe that little bit of showmanship by Fed will get Delpo going.


i am it Says:

fed’s from-behind-the-back shot was almost winner.
how free and relaxed he is . mind bugling.


Kimmi Says:

mmmmmm…Drop shots now not working for fed but he keep playing them ..


Veno Says:

Very true bebe, but Rafa will try his booty off to find a way for next time. It was good to see Rafa was aware and tried to play a more aggressive game(more UE was of course the result) although for Rafa to execute that well he’d have to be super sharp, because not his normal game….


Veno Says:

Kimmi, even though Delpo got the last 3 he’ll keep doing it, tiring Juan Martin by having him move longitudinally(anyone have a better word lol)


Dan Martin Says:

15-30 Federer playing too loose?


Veno Says:

With Fed serving so poorly JMDP has a window of opportunity here….let’s see if he can open said window…first break points


Veno Says:

Frustrating for Juan Martin, Fed wakes up just in time


tenisbebe Says:

Veno – yes, more aggressive from Rafa. I was hoping/praying Rafa would come to the net more (vs Delpo) as he has become quite the volleyer & was successful the few times he did come in but…..it’s not natural for him.


Veno Says:

crazy moment…


Veno Says:

remember Cilic :)


Veno Says:

Fed just hammers another winner facing break point…He hasn’t found his serve yet though….


Kimo Says:

I can’t remember the last time Roger served this many DFs.


tenisbebe Says:

well i don’t know about “crazy”, just an interference. jez, if you can’t beat fed when he’s serving at 41%, it’s pretty hopeless. Do you all see how juan is not swinging thru his shots, no racquet head speed, very unlike yesterday.


Veno Says:

Lol, Fed challenging…..bet a buck, get a buck plus a cent for him being wrong loooool


Ty Says:

Jehzuz… Delpo can NOT find the court.


Dan Martin Says:

Big hold – the atmosphere got a bit more tense after the let was called – should be interesting to monitor


i am it Says:

first double break for dePo.
gets 2nd serve but still cannot do enough.
30-40.
2nd serve again.
dePo fails. he mishits.
deuce.
dePo dumps his forehand in the mid net. ad for fed.
fed shanks one in the net.
deuce.
ace.
dePo disputes because someone dropped a cup.
dePo has an argument.
replay the point.
deuce.
fed misses forehand.
dePo has another break point.
2nd serve.
dePo still cannot hit winner. fed hits a solid forehand winner.
deuce.
2nd serve.
dePo shanks in the net after a short rally.
fed has game point.
2nd serve. double fault. fed challenges. linecall stands. deuce.
dePo throws 2 in the air.
fed holds.3-1. 2nd set.


Kimo Says:

The fact that Roger is right on the baseline, not surrendering any territory, is frustrating Delpo. He’s trying to play like he did yesterday but he doesn’t realize that Fed is a completely different player from Rafa. So he keeps getting pushed by Fed further and further behind the baseline, and his balls are falling short, and Fed just hammers them.


Ty Says:

Will Dick Enberg please just shut up already. I’m convinced at this point that he has a bronze statue of Fed that he prays to every morning.


tenisbebe Says:

i am it – you are a riot.


Veno Says:

tenisbebe Says:

well i don’t know about “crazy”, just an interference. jez, if you can’t beat fed when he’s serving at 41%, it’s pretty hopeless. Do you all see how juan is not swinging thru his shots, no racquet head speed, very unlike yesterday.

True bebe, but Fed takes the ball much earlier taking time away from Juan Martin and for Delpo to hit those bombs he needs that long lunging back swing. Against Rafa he has that time… Rafa will have to find a way to take time away from Juan Martin


Dan Martin Says:

Ty at least Enberg has not used “delicious” yet


Dan Martin Says:

Federer is taking pace off of the ball at the right times and that has thus far kept JMDP out of his patterns.


Kimo Says:

you see how Fed’s low bouncing slices are giving delpo all sorts of trouble?


i am it Says:

dePo is getting into my nerve now.


Veno Says:

Fed challenges and is correct!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Von Says:

I know talking about the draws sparks some touchy emotions, but let’s face it, both DelPotro and Djokovic had very sweet draws and that accounts for how far they got in the USO.

For example, Djokovic had it easy until he met Verdasco, the first highly ranked and tough player in his draw. Fortunately for Djoko, Verdasco was injured and couldn’t execute his game. Next up was Federer, and look what happenend. Djoko’s classical shots disappeared. of course Federer is the No.1 guy, but I’m sure another top 5 player would have been able to impose his game on Djoko also.

DelPotro’s path to the finals has been similar to Djokovic’s. Whom did DelPotro face until the SFs? Only one top 10 player in an injured Nadal. Yes, Nadal was injured and hurting badly and it showed in his match play. I know some were oohhing and awwhhhing with respect to DelPotro’s performance against Ferrero, but is Ferrero a top 10 player? Roddick is considered to be inferior competition by some who post, but Roddick puts away Ferrero very easily each time they’ve faced each other, and he does the same vs. Robredo, but we never see any oohhing and awwhhing when roddick does that.

Murray’s out by Cilic made life very easy for DelPotro, and Cilic has run true to form similar to those opponents who take out a big scalp — they flame out in their next match.

In sum, DelPotro has faced very little competition until Federer and it’s manifested and evident from his match play presently.

I think too many are praising DelPotro prematurely and jumping on his bandwagon, while hailing him as the next top 5 player, but we’ll see next year how he defends his titles and ranking points. If at that time, he’s successful, and remains in the top 5, then I’ll say, he’s a definite top 5 player, however …. only time will tell.

Anyway, that’s my opinon as I see it, and i suppose I’m entitled to it, yes?


i am it Says:

fed is right in his call.


Ty Says:

Enberg “The first time they’ve won the US Open doubles title in 10 years. ’99 being the other”

Well yeah, thanks for the clarification.


Kimmi Says:

Del potro having problem with fed slow slice ball..need to bend those knees


Veno Says:

Delpo over hits!!!!!!!!!


Kimo Says:

Fed is moving so fast today!!!


Ty Says:

Von: still butthurt about Roddick.


Veno Says:

Enberg throwing another classic I see…..


i am it Says:

give fed 7 rafas, 7 murrays, 7 djokovics, 7 dePos, and 7 roddicks, fed will still win.
that’s how good he’s currently playing.


Kimo Says:

Delpo is always hitting up Roger’s slices, and that just gives Fed total sitters that he disposes of with disdain. Love it.


i am it Says:

that down-the-line forehand from fed was insane.


rose Says:

i knew delpo wasnt gonna show up today ..he has chccked every single time he played fed..kid played an amazing game yesterday and today he looks like a totally different player..


Veno Says:

Of course you’re entitled Vonnie!

Guess what I watched yesterday?….Rush Hour numero très!

Still mopping the floor from pissing my pants in laughterrrrrrrrrr


Von Says:

Ty: I’ll ignore your stupid remark. I’m no more butt hurt about Roddick than you are about Federer, not to mention your TV whining, so stop your stupid barbs.


i am it Says:

dePo is officially no. 5 from tomorrow. as a finalist he’s de facto no. 2 right now in this tournament.


Von Says:

Veno: Good for you. I watched it twice since I last mentioned it, and each time I enjoy it more. I seem to find more funny stuf that I didn’t catch in the prior showing. LOL.


Veno Says:

Fed’s really having to rely on his good second serve….His 1st serving is horrendous so far


Kimo Says:

If Fed wins today his rstreak against players outside the top 5 since Wimby 2004 in slams will remain intact :)


Dan Martin Says:

Federer is only giving JMDP pace when Federer has an angle. Otherwise he is slicing, hitting droppers, getting to net, and feeding him off pace shots. JMDP loves pace so this is smart, but it is like watching a sleeper hold or something.


Veno Says:

True Von….

“Lee, he may be your brother, but turn him into your sister!”


I like tennis bullies Says:

tennis badly needs rafael nadal


Kimmi Says:

Delpo start to find the game the brought him here..


tenisbebe Says:

Veno – I am aware that delpo has more time with rafa vs fed, but still…. C’mon, the guy is so out of sorts: serve, & movement the biggest.


Von Says:

Veno: Shoot him Lee, he may be your brother ….. LOL.

How about I’m his brother from another mother? LOL. Classic stuff.

Your guy will win this one hands down.


Veno Says:

Fed’s serving at 47 % ouch….


Kimmi Says:

Fed is making more errors now..oh first serve at last..


Veno Says:

I know bebe, but like Andy Roddick always says (wisely imo) it’s hard to compare different matches, even only 1 day apart.


Dan Martin Says:

6-3, 4-3, 40-15 to a bad error and missed first serve to deuce


Veno Says:

JMDP biting this game….


Kimmi Says:

Foot fault..fed


Veno Says:

That was close…..thought he would make that….


Veno Says:

Fed making more errors now, set up the point well, but forgets to pass….


Kimmi Says:

Another double fault..what the..


Veno Says:

Fed’s serving is really off today….


Gwen Says:

Del Potro knows how to get to a slam final, but like others (Murray?), he doesn’t know what to do when he gets there..for one thing he could quit walking around like Eeyore…If Nadal was playing and Federer was at less than 50% fs, he would be winning…it reminds me how so many of the women players fold when they play Venus or Serena…although with the women, it’s more the power of the sisters game, in this case, i think it’s just nerves and the ‘i’m playing federer’ syndrome…


Dan Martin Says:

Clutch volley may have saved the game for Federer but with so many missed serves and double faults JMDP is not doing enough.


Kimo Says:

Even with Fed not serving well, he’s in total command of this match.


rose Says:

this is a boring usa open man final….


tenisbebe Says:

Von – you could be very right re: acclaim delpo has received thus far. I can only say what I have seen from the matches he HAS played: he used his wingspan effectively, was hitting corners off both wings, moved well, served very well. But today…many things (nerves) including Fed not allowing him to play his game.


Dan Martin Says:

The 50 ace thing is nice but if you added aces and service winners Roddick was ahead on that count at Wimbledon. I guess it is demoralizing not to get a racket on a return but not putting the return in play is the same on the score board.


Veno Says:

Juan Martin starting to hold more easily…but can he make a push here…His last chance….


Kimmi Says:

Fed needs his first serve here..delpo is getting close to break


Von Says:

JMDP is a prime example of lack of fitness. He’s playing without the extra days’s rest and is walking around like a zombie. Unless he can up his fitness level, he’ll find it difficult to win the USO.


Veno Says:

Darn 2 transmission failures….ugh…..


Veno Says:

Challenge!!!!!!!!!


i am it Says:

fed has 149-0 after winning 1st 2 sets in a slam. wow !


Veno Says:

break point!!!!!!!


Veno Says:

damn broadcast……failed 3 times….Delpo breaks!!!!!!


Kimo Says:

Finally Delpo makes Fed pay for his poor serving.


Dan Martin Says:

I know drop shots are part of the strategy but the dropper at 30-15 was not smart. Good hustle and shot making for JMDP.


Kimmi Says:

Finally delpo..breaks..we have a match. Fed needs first serve here.


rose Says:

good delpo..i wanna see more good tennis let the best win!!!!!,..


i am it Says:

dePo takes a break. impressed. we have a match if dePo wins the set and levels the match.


Von Says:

That drop shot was a bad choice by Federer and it cost him the game.


Veno Says:

Delpo waking up!!!!!!! We have a match!!!!!


Kimmi Says:

Del potro is swinging now..


Von Says:

If this goes to a tie-break I think DelPotro will win it with his serve.


i am it Says:

dePo has to win this set.


rose Says:

delpo has all the talent to make this an interesting final….


Veno Says:

Fed needs to start hitting more first serves or Delpo could run away with this set….


i am it Says:

131 mph serve gives dePo the game and first lead in a set.


Kimmi Says:

Delpo can win this set..he needed that break and now his serve is firing. If fed is coming back with no serve..watch out.


Ty Says:

Ruh roh George.


Veno Says:

7th double!!!!


i am it Says:

veno sounded scared there. should you? i don’t think so.


Dan Martin Says:

Federer needs to calm and get to the breaker if not he will have dumped a set where he had chances to go up 2 breaks


Veno Says:

Fed challenging loooooooooooooool


Veno Says:

no, not scare i am it….

Just hope we have a good match….

Let’s see if Delpo can take the breaker, he needs to


Veno Says:

Delpo has to stay patient here….


Veno Says:

hey, is the wind picking up? seems the balls are swirling more….


Kimo Says:

Why is freakin Gwen Stefani in Fed’s box in yet another slam final? Doesn’t he know what happened when she was there when he was going for a sixth straight Wimbledon?

She’s a bad omen.


paula Says:

HOLY- that was in? this is exciting- finally.


Kimo Says:

The $hitty broadcast is killing me.


Veno Says:

smart play by Fed…
Delpo swinging hard now…


Kimo Says:

You gotta give it to Fed. He’s hanging in there with only 2nd serves at the moment.


Veno Says:

what a turn around….


tenisbebe Says:

Kimo – are you streaming? The camera work is fantastic so…the commentators??


Maso Says:

Minibreak Delpotro.


Veno Says:

We have a match on our hands!
One can only be happy :)


Kimo Says:

bebe, no it’s the TV broadcast. It’s breaking up/


rose Says:

3 set points.we have a match people..finally i feel like this is a grand slam final :)


Veno Says:

He wants a 1st serve here!!!!!!!!!


tenisbebe Says:

Wow – finally! Delpo is finding his game – now hopefully we will have a match.

Ha! Maybe not – missed OH.


Veno Says:

He does it!

1-1

We have a match!!!!!!!


Maso Says:

1 set all. We’ve got a match, ladies and gentlemen!


i am it Says:

3 set points for my man dePo. can he do it?
he missed an easy forehead. i cannot believe it.
missed another one by an inch.
he does it.
we have a match !


Dan Martin Says:

That was a pretty good slice backhand return and an even better FH winner – 6-3, 6-7


rose Says:

yayyyyyyyyyy..dont you love tennis <3


Kimmi Says:

Delpooooooooo…


Maso Says:

Damn, Veno, you always beat me to it by a few seconds!


tenisbebe Says:

Kimo – have you tried streaming from the US Open website? http://www.usopen.org


Kimo Says:

Good for Delpo. Fed’s serve was bad all match long and once Delpo’s serving got better, he got more confident and started going for his shots.


Ty Says:

Yes, finally!!


tenisbebe Says:

You guys are all 1 minute ahead of my HDTV reception but it’s o beautiful I don’t care :-)


jane Says:

Alright JUAN! Go! :) I have to get home to try to watch some of this live, even though am taping… Just checked scores, and it was heading into the breaker. Happy to see Delpo took a set. GO Delpo!


i am it Says:

already a better US Open finals than more than a few in the last 5-6 years.


i am it Says:

fed begins the 3rd set with 2 aces in a row.


tenisbebe Says:

Jane – watch it on tape and enjoy! You can skip the first set and 1/2. :-)


Von Says:

If this goes to 5, I doubt DelPotro will win it based on fitness. Unless he’s putting on one of his acts, he’s looking as though he can’t move, and he appears as though he’ll fray out soon.


Veno Says:

Fed will raise his level, can Delpo keep it up….you feel he has to win the 3rd set to give himself a great chance…
If he loses the third, it’s going to be hard…


paula Says:

I like both these players very much but I want a match!! Looks like we have one!! Woohoo!


i am it Says:

2nd set winners 20 for dePo and 11 for fed.


blah Says:

wooh this is getting fun. Looked early like it was going to be similar to the AO rout, but now there is a seed of doubt in Federer’s mind. I still stick my pick though, Fed in 4


i am it Says:

both hold their games in love.


Maso Says:

Roger correct on a challenge!


Von Says:

Veno: Our thoughts are similar in our synchronized post times @ 6:10 pm. LOL.


Dan Martin Says:

Federer lost the second set versus Agassi in 2005 and fell behind a break in the 3rd set too. The only comparable situation from a U.S. Open final but this sort of feels like the 2007 Wimbledon final as Federer lost the second set and was mad at hawkeye. Also, his opponent seems to believe victory is possible in both matches.


Veno Says:

uh oh, Fed starting to correctly challenge….watch out!


i am it Says:

fed is right twice in his challenge.


rose Says:

i liked them both too ..but like paula said we want more tennis …..we have a long way until the next grand slam…so come on fed and delpo give us more great tennis to watch


paula Says:

wait, someone gets a lexus? that’s a nice looking car-


Von Says:

blah: I agree, Federer will win in 4.


Dan Martin Says:

Too many droppers… 30-30


Maso Says:

Break point.


Von Says:

Veno, if fed is challenging correctly it means he’s seeing the ball better. ha ha.


Veno Says:

JMDP firing on all cilinders now, great pass!!!


i am it Says:

only three 5-setters in the US Open history in the Open Era.


i am it Says:

dePo missed a golden chance to break.


Kimo Says:

Fed’s 1st serve is back. THANK GOD!!!


tenisbebe Says:

i am it – all pre the creation of “Super Saturday”?


Kimmi Says:

Delpo got breakpoint on that game..he is liking his chances. fed 1st serve is firing a liitle better here.


i am it Says:

that pass from dePo was really good.
but he missed a couple in the next points.


Veno Says:

lol Von!

Gotta give it to the kid Von, he’s making a match of it.

Roddick, if watching, will ask himself why oh why can’t Fed ever serve that bad against me?!
He has a point there….


Von Says:

The drop shots are good against a player with shorter lets, but with DelPotro’s long legs he only has to take a few steps and he’s right there. The dropper is what cost Fed the fame and then the set in the second.


i am it Says:

my fav actor B. Willis is in the audience.


i am it Says:

that backhand from fed was sweet.


tenisbebe Says:

“Roddick, if watching, will ask himself why oh why can’t Fed ever serve that bad against me?!
He has a point there….” The announcers said this back at the beginning of the 2nd set. Oh so true..


Dan Martin Says:

The big difference I see between JMDP vs. Federer and Nadal vs. Federer (assuming JMDP is confident and believing) is JMDP might hit more winners but he may bunch a set of errors together that Nadal would not.


Von Says:

Veno: Please let’s not talk about Roddick because Ty will get a butt attack, and we don’t want that to happen. Gosh, too many Roddick haters on this site., that even the mention of his name sets them off. LOL.


i am it Says:

easy hold for dePo. he played good groundies there. 2-2.


Veno Says:

Ok Von. Won’t do then….


Kimmi Says:

Delpo moving better than Roger..Carillo says


i am it Says:

fed served better in the last game.


Veno Says:

LOL, Carillo…………


sam Says:

How many aces each has hit till now?


paula Says:

that lexus lady was super awkward.


Mary Says:

I saw Federer get broken in the second. I get home and Federer seems out of sorts?
Is he? what’s the vibe?


Veno Says:

lol, Fed and the challenges………


Von Says:

Dick Enberg said at the beginning of the match that only one player has won a GS vs. Fed over the past 5 years, and that is Nadal. LOL. What happenend to Djoko’s win in ’08, I suppose that one got lost in the stats. LOL.


Veno Says:

Sam: 8 for Fed, 7 for Delpo


Von Says:

Mary, after the break the set got to a tie-break and DelPotro won it.


Veno Says:

Vonnie, Novak-fed was a semi in ’08 :)


i am it Says:

no doubt dePo is playing much better as fed’s speed has slightly decreased.


Veno Says:

Fed spraying them all over the place…


Mary Says:

Von: Thanks! Federer seems sad. His box of people look sad.


Veno Says:

Juan Martin breaks!!!!!


Maso Says:

Not looking good for Roger right now.


Dan Martin Says:

30-40 missed 3 of 5 first serves from 30-0 up and 2 first serves in play. JMDP up a break. I have a feeling if Federer is going to win he is going to have to go 5 sets.


Kimo Says:

Ok, something is not right with Roger. He is shanking routine forehands.


Kimmi Says:

Wow delpo…can win this…


i am it Says:

whoever wins this set wins the match in 4 sets.

dePo just broke. he can do it if he wins the set.


tenisbebe Says:

Another break for Juan!


Von Says:

The FH shanks is an indication that Fed’s nervous.


Veno Says:

looks like it’s going to be an exciting final for a change


tenisbebe Says:

On my TV, Fed looks ill, kind of pale. Maybe the babies kept him up.


rose Says:

break ..delpo stepped it up a notch..he needs to hold his serve now to make it a real break


Veno Says:

Fed waking up?
JM better be careful here…


i am it Says:

beautiful backhand from fed to go up 0-30.


blah Says:

Is the late 08-early 09 Fed starting to show it’s face? uh-oh.


rose Says:

break back fed


Maso Says:

0-40, Del Potro a bit nervous?


Dan Martin Says:

Nerves back in it for JMDP?


Veno Says:

uh oh…..

Juan Martin doing a Novak?


Von Says:

Mary: Yes, Fed’s dad has that Oy VEY look on his face, so does Fed’s wife.

I know much has been said about recovery time in the past and the lack thereof, but I’m thinking Fed’s a bit lethargic due to insufficient recovery time. He did play the second match, and if that’s so, then the few extra hours does make a difference, yes? No?


paula Says:

nice nice hitting from Delpo!


Veno Says:

1 to go, can he do it?


rose Says:

wwowww..roger running all over the court..great defense tho


Kimo Says:

Gooooooooooo Rogerrrrrrrrrr


Veno Says:

aiiiiiii, unlucky for Juan Martin…..


Dan Martin Says:

Federer played all 3 break points tentatively but the last one JMDP could not pull the trigger.


i am it Says:

fed breaks back as dePo missed it long. 4-4.


Kimmi Says:

Fed gave a cry..he wants this one..and ace..


Von Says:

WOW, what a tupsy-turvy set!! break forward, break back, break, break. LOL.


Veno Says:

Clutch time for Delpo…


blah Says:

Another breaker this set? It will go 5 if JMDP wins this set, but Roger will finish it in 4 if JMDP slips up.


rose Says:

fed serving way better now…


Veno Says:

only 2 breaks Vonnie…..lol


Maso Says:

What a forehand by Del Potro! That was a rocket.


tenisbebe Says:

The best FH delpo’s hit all day at 30-15.


Veno Says:

wow!!! Delpo hammering now!


Kimmi Says:

wowowwoo..big FHs from delpo


Veno Says:

Fed really having to dig deep here!!!!!


Von Says:

Veno: yes, the ’08 AO, wasa semi, but that’s not Enberg was saying. Enberg said over the past 5 years the only guys to win a GS were Fed and Nadal. I’m saying not true, Djoko won the AO in ’08.


Veno Says:

That’s bad…..can’t challenge after such a long time…..


Kimmi Says:

Fed…..


rose Says:

wowowwowo..”i dont give a shit what he said”.


Kimo Says:

WOW. Federer is pulling a Serena!!!!

Shame on him.


Veno Says:

wow!!!!!

Fed dropped an S and an F bomb there….he is worried….


tenisbebe Says:

Oh my Fed says “I don’t give a shit what you say..” to the ump.


Von Says:

blah: do you think the match will only go to a 4th set?


i am it Says:

dePo was unlucky with the net chord and again with that forehand long.
fed served big time twice.
wow the killer forehand from dePo. another one from outside the court. and dePo has break point.
big serve from fed. dePo misses.
deuce.
another big serve down the T. Ad for fed.
2nd serve.
dePo misses backhand. he should not have been allowed to challenge.
Fed gets pissed.
“I don’t give a shit”—Fed.


Dan Martin Says:

A little chippy out there


Veno Says:

bebe, he said….I don’t give a shit what HE said…


tenisbebe Says:

Kimo – he is HARDLY pulling a Serena. Get real.


Mary Says:

What in god’s name has been going on with the calls this match?
Fed/Nov match yesterday had lousy calls.

Von: there is an oy vey feeling. Fed is looking disgusted.


rose Says:

federer cursing…but the umpire shouldn’t let delpo make the challenge


i am it Says:

very uncharacteristic of fed to curse at the ump a couple of times.


Mary Says:

Hold up, did Carillo just say Fed has been cursing at the ump?


Veno Says:

Don’t anger the Fed though….


Von Says:

DelPotro does that a lot of times. He’ll walk up to the spot, look at it and contemplate; then he’ll challenge. It’s one of the reasons I don’t like to watch him play — too many stalling tactics.


Kimo Says:

bebe, yeah I know. No one can match what Serena did. But still, Federer doesn’t do this kind of exchanges very often.

And f-bombs too. WOW.

Hey, you know I’m a big Fed fan, but that was just wrong.


i am it Says:

net chord helps fed. luck !
dePo down 0-30.


Dan Martin Says:

He can just hit through the court it seems!


tenisbebe Says:

the focus was on the “S” word Veno, although my version would be considered more confrontational.


Veno Says:

Delpo hammers another one lol


Veno Says:

my point bebe….Still Fed dropping one…..aiaiai


Kimmi Says:

Apparently the umpire told fed to “keep quiet” that what set hom off…


Von Says:

Come on you guys, did any of you ever watch the ’07 Wimby final? Fed cursed HE. LOL.


Veno Says:

oh my…double on 30-30….set point…


Maso Says:

Double fault by Del Potro, definitely feeling a bit nervous here. Set point Federer.


rose Says:

oh c’mon delpo double fault now..i wanna a tiebreak


blah Says:

Von: If Federer takes the third set, yes. I’ve only been watching moments of the match though, so maybe it’s not an informed prediction.


Maso Says:

Two double faults in a row!!


Veno Says:

oh my god!!!!!!!

What the hell?


Kimo Says:

WOW. Delpo got relly affected by the Fed-ump exchange.


Dan Martin Says:

A little gagging on those two double faults right after battling back from 0-30 6-3, 6-7, 6-4


Kimmi Says:

Double fault of set point…what the..POOR DEL POTRO…


i am it Says:

that double fault sets up set point for fed.
how unlucky !
2nd serve.
2 double fault gifts fed the set.
that’s mental collapse.


Veno Says:

What an annoying end to the set!


Kimo Says:

Von, yeah. He did curse in Wimby 07, but all he did was protest HE, not the other guy. He said of HE: “It’s f***ing killing me”, but this was different.


Veno Says:

Although I’m a Fed fan I WANT AN AMAZING 5 SET THRILLER!!!!!!

Come on Juan Martin….fight now, come on….


paula Says:

oh sad to have the set end on a double-
re: Delpo’s slow to ask thingy-
he should not be allowed to challenge that late, I agree
BUT- he’s Argentine! have you ever had a midday meal with an Argentine? It’s a three hour affair. You linger over things. Its a cultural difference.

That said, he shouldn’t be able to challenge after waiting that long.


tenisbebe Says:

Kimo – Well he can’t be held to a higher standard than everyone else. I mean ALOT of players curse on court, although not usually AT the chair. Maybe a point penalty but…after Saturday note. He had a valid point and the ump should let him speak his mind instead of telling him to “be quiet”.


Maso Says:

Well, Federer choked a bit in the 2nd set and Delpotro managed to take it and the opposite just happened in the 3rd.


Von Says:

Mary: And, everyone in Fed’s box sighed and said “Oh what a relief this is” as DelpPotro double faulted to hand Fed the game and set. And, now, it’s all smiles and all’s good, life’s good, in the Federer camp. LOL


Tennisfan Says:

The umpire calling this match sucks … this is the best umpire at the US Open … what gives?


i am it Says:

dePo inspired me all this time. but suddenly he choked and now i am disappointed.


Blank Says:

Del Potro’s serve on set point in 2nd set was 138mph, his fastest of the match, Fed got that in…but of course, still lost the set.


Maso Says:

I agree, tennisfan, this umpire’s not very good. He never takes a chance on the calls. Always says ‘it was very close’ and he’s been doing this since the beginning of the Open. Layani and Maria are so much better, they actually take a stance, make overrules which are very, very often correct (I’ve been amazed by some of Layani’s). Did they have to take an american umpire for the US Open?


Kimo Says:

Tennis fan, I agree.

What is annoying me now is that Serena will probably say hey, Fed does it too, so they’ll let her off the hook.


i am it Says:

i cannot believe dePo lost that set. he was a break up at one point and was playing better. in a matter of second, he loses focus and loses the set.


Kimmi Says:

The best tournament Umpire does the final..isn’t it ?


i am it Says:

dePo played played a drop shot. unusual.


Veno Says:

Fed stepping it up, Delpo lucky his flick at net went long(Feds)


Veno Says:

good save by JM


Von Says:

Kimo: At that same Wimby match Fed was giving it to the ump and jawing between changes. Look, it’s not a big deal, it’s done all of the time, and it’s why I always say, they all do it. I’m cool with the guys losing their tempers, because I don’t like lifeless robots. However, I just don’t like it when some players are targeted more than others. When that happens, I’ll pipe in for sure, and you can count on that all the way to the bank. LOL.


Veno Says:

and another…great serves…


paula Says:

I l ike Norm Chryst (sp?). he’s a good chair. I’m not crazy about this chair either.

regarding cursing- I’ve heard much worse at the chairs- but you can’t mess with the linesmen? Isn’t that how it goes. I once saw Tommy haas FREAK out on a chair so badly (actually it was Norm) and the next day, the papers said he should have been defaulted and I agreed.


tenisbebe Says:

Maso “Did they have to take an american umpire for the US Open?” What?????? That is not a requirement of the final. Sheesh.

Kimo – they gave here a $10,000 fine for unsportsmanlike plus a $500 fine for racquet abuse until they “review”. A weak and BS response.

Kimmi – I believe they pick from the most EXPERIENCED umps (different one every year). How would you judge the “Best”?


rose Says:

delpo needs to put the 3 set behind him or else roger is taking this easily


Veno Says:

That forehand was nuclear!!!!!!!!!!


Dan Martin Says:

I know if a guy is imploding you don’t want to give him errors but Federer played the 2 breakers and the deuce points pretty conservatively.


rose Says:

best FH ever..delpo..just wowowowow


i am it Says:

i think that’s it for dePo.

2 break points for fed. deuce. 2nd serve. fed misses forehand. game point for dePo. big forehand cross-court slap saves him the game.


Von Says:

I think the reason they have this ump today is due to the USO going into extra days. The other senior umps probably had plane reservations and this ump was flexible, hence his presence. Anyway, this is just my speculation.


Dan Martin Says:

Delpo’s FH was insane


Dan Martin Says:

and again! good grief – the future of the game???


tenisbebe Says:

Paula – Normally Norm is a good ump but he overruled a serve last night in the Fed/DJ match that was in and said “out” then on challenge it was in and he made dj replay the pt even though no way Fed could have gotten it. He had another controversial call to but can’t remember.


Veno Says:

hahahaha, Delpo’s FHs make Gonzo’s look like Drop shots


Maso Says:

Ah, thanks Von! Nothing against american umpires by the way, lived half my life in america and loved every year of it. I was just curious as to why they picked this particular guy (Murphy or something?) who doesn’t seem to me to be the best choice available.


Kimmi Says:

“Kimmi – I believe they pick from the most EXPERIENCED umps (different one every year). How would you judge the “Best”?”

Tenisbebe..I have always wondered coz I have seen they give some umpire trophies in the finals..

Gosh delpo those forehands..110mph


Veno Says:

yes bebe, that was not Norm’s finest moment….
A double whammy blunder in 1 played point…


i am it Says:

“hahahaha, Delpo’s FHs make Gonzo’s look like Drop shots”
that was a good one.


Mary Says:

This match still has the one-bad-call-away-from-a-meltdown thing.

It’s a shame this is the last slam of the year, because it allows tennis to forget it needs to overhaul its call consistency.


paula Says:

Oh, I missed that. (I was atthe VMAs!) Sorry to hear Norm did the wrong thing. He’s usually good. I like a lot of the other chairs..but not so crazy about this one.


Von Says:

Re: Umpires, I know unless there are a lot of players complaints about a specific ump, that a few bad calls would not get an umpire removed from any match. Norm Chryst is the top guy and I doubt a couple of bad calls would be reason for his removal. The tournament never has an ump do a night match in a GS and then do the next day match also. It’s done on a rotation basis and by seniority. Norm had last night’s match, and I guess today this guy Gardner was available and is probably the most senior of the lot available.


tenisbebe Says:

Kimmi – yeah I think it’s an appreciation trophy, similar to Wimby. If this ump doesn’t watch it, Roger will give him a broken racquet over his head……


Veno Says:

They shouldn’t be able to ask the ump what they thought and the ump should strongly overrule every time he things a call is wrong. Too many times they let it rest on the possibility of a player challenging the call


Maso Says:

Del Potro holds after defending a break point.


Von Says:

Maso: You’re welcome on the umpire thing. Some fans just have it out for the US and the USO, ha ha.


Veno Says:

Delpo digging out there….great reflex FH to save the breakpoint


i am it Says:

dePo digs out of a big hole. 2-2.


Dan Martin Says:

Federer did not play that break point conservatively and lost it – what the heck do I know for criticizing his conservative play last return game?


Veno Says:

another great fh!!!!


i am it Says:

dePo has produced some of the best forehands i have ever seen in my life.


Dan Martin Says:

2 second serves love – 30


rose Says:

c.mon delpo ..


Kimmi Says:

Two big FH from delpo


Veno Says:

0-40!!!!!


Polo Says:

Federer looks like he is going to lose. What happened to his serve?


i am it Says:

3 break points for dePo.


Veno Says:

breaks to love….
Guess Fed wants to play a 5 setter too lol


rose Says:

i agree with you “i am it” this kind is amazing..only 20 years old..wowwow..best FH i have seen


Kimmi Says:

delpo breaks..maybe we go to 5 sets.


tenisbebe Says:

have to run out folks & may miss the end of match…
Will check with ya all later.

Von: re: the ump selection, I think you are very clever.


i am it Says:

dePo breaks fed at love. it ain’t over till it’s over.


Dan Martin Says:

3 second serves and the love break for JMDP 6-3, 6-7, 6-4, 2-3


Polo Says:

This is going to a fifth set and del Potro looks like he is gaining confidence with each point. It does not look like Federer can raise his first serve percentage.


Veno Says:

What a point!!!!!!!!!!


Maso Says:

What a point by Del Potro! Incredible! Roger really went for it too.


Dan Martin Says:

Enberg “delicious” …


Elwin Says:

Fed should slice much more.. his topspin backhands are not hurting DP..


i am it Says:

hi 5 to spectators. rare.


rose Says:

wwowowwowow delpo nice rally


Polo Says:

This is going to be a historic US Open final. I am not sure for what reason.


i am it Says:

forehand winner dePo leads fed, 26-17.


Maso Says:

Break confirmed by Del Potro. We might be going to a 5th set.


i am it Says:

dePo consolidates the break. 4-2.


Polo Says:

I am switching allegiance to del Potro.


Kimmi Says:

To me delpotro looks the better player right now..


Mary Says:

Polo: I totally agree with you. Weirdness all over this match.


Dan Martin Says:

If JMDP wins this set each guy will have 2 sets and will have lost a set when up a break so each guy could be off the court at the end of the 4th, but I smell 5.


rose Says:

delpo secured his break…tennis fans want set # 5 !!!


i am it Says:

fed has less unforced errors 42-49.


Polo Says:

del Potro ate his cereals and took his vitamin this morning. He is ready to go the distance.


Tejuz Says:

del potro is coming of age in this match.. hez playing awesome.. especially for a first time finalist. Much Much better than Murray or Djoker or Baghdatis before him. Even better than Fed or Nadal before him cuz he is facing a multi-grandslam champ before him.


Maso Says:

About to pass the 3 hour mark.


rose Says:

fed’s first serve is firing up..


Kimo Says:

Fed has served badly all match. This isn’t good enough.


Elwin Says:

I sense Rog feels a little bit tired, he’s a bit slow at times.


Polo Says:

It may be too late for Federer’s serve to come back and help him. He messed up the second set.


Von Says:

Mary: You sound sad. Since I don’t have a vested interest in this match, just for you and Veno, I’m rooting for Fed to win.

Veno: are you feeling it — it’s j’etaime time.

DelPotro seems to be just content to spin his serves in and blast his FH the hardest he possibly can at the moment, going for outright winners and keep Fed running. That will work for a while, but I think eventually his FH will become stressed. Maybe, Fed will get lucky if that happens.


Maso Says:

Break point Federer to get back in the set!


Polo Says:

del Potro will be overtake Roddick after this Open. Next guy on his list will be Djokovic, then Murray, then Nadal. That would be a two year project.


rose Says:

break back fed…


Mary Says:

Von: No, I’m not sad. It’s cool for whoever wins. It’s just a weird match. Fun but weird.


Maso Says:

Roger breaks back. 4-4.


Veno Says:

Oh my god!!!!!!!!

Fed doing it again!!!!!!!!


Kimo Says:

That’s the Fed I like to see. That’s the Fed I love.


Kimmi Says:

BREEEEAAAK Go FED


i am it Says:

dePo played really weak last 3 points and faces break point.
2nd serve.
played well but fed outplayed dePo.
4-4.


Kimo Says:

Best US Open final in at least a decade.


Veno Says:

thanks Vonnie, Je t’aime aussi!


Elwin Says:

Wow reaction


Veno Says:

Oh my, soft hands…

If Fed holds….how much pressure on JM?


Maso Says:

Agree with you, Mary, very weird match. Not a lot of momentum. Every time it seems one of the two picks up pace, they seem to both lose it. Like Roger losing the 2nd set (which he should have won), and Delpotro losing the 3rd (which he should have won too).


Veno Says:

wow, what a return!!!


Mary Says:

What’s interesting with Fed matches is you can be typing away about how he is just about to lose, look up and notice he is a few points from winning.


Veno Says:

Agree Maso, but makes it exciting too!!!!!!!


Maso Says:

Fed holds. Back in the lead in this set. Del potro has to hold serve to stay in the match.


Veno Says:

Fed really tiring Juan Martin now.

Can Juan Martin keep a cool head?


Polo Says:

Ugh! I am confused. Should I switch back my allegiance to Federer?


Maso Says:

Agreed, Veno! This match could really go either way. A surprise to the end.


Kimo Says:

Ok. Crunch time. 4-5 down. Fed fours points away from the match. Can Delpo keep him nerve in the match of his life so far?

My guess is yes.


Elwin Says:

Yea Mary sometimes he gets rolling for a few games, which means in a few minutes


Veno Says:

And yes, this has been a great final. Maybe not the best tennis, but exciting as hell…..


Polo Says:

I will stick with del Potro for now. Let me see first how he does on this service game.


Polo Says:

OK. del Potro.


Von Says:

If it goes to a tie-break, DelPotro has the edge.


Veno Says:

uh oh…3 points….


Maso Says:

Big unforced error from Delpotro. 15-30.


Veno Says:

2 points….Delpo better get some serves in….


Kimo Says:

Ooooh. Delpo is getting nervous.


Polo Says:

another hmmm…


Maso Says:

Big serve to forget about the previous UE. 30-all.


Veno Says:

great serving!


Polo Says:

allegiance back to del Potro. Hahaha.


Veno Says:

great hold!!!!


Maso Says:

Del Potro holds, what a monster forehand once again!


Kimmi Says:

And the big FH seals the game.


i am it Says:

dePo saved a big time there.


Veno Says:

I’ll give Fed the edge if a tiebreak…


Von Says:

Veno: Now do you see what I mean about the giants. Big serve, big FH.


Polo Says:

Ok. I am with del Potro firmly for this set.


Kimmi Says:

Delpo mental strength is big..he will fight for this one I tell you.


Veno Says:

smart serve by Fed


rose Says:

delpo has growth in me after this match.


Veno Says:

Von Says:

Veno: Now do you see what I mean about the giants. Big serve, big FH.

True Von, I knew that….The Gullivers are dangerous!


Polo Says:

Why don’t those two guys grunt?


Veno Says:

2 UE….back to deuce….


Maso Says:

Bad unforced error with that forehand from Roger. He was up 40-0… Let’s see if he can get out of this one.


Kimmi Says:

40-0 to duece..what the..


Maso Says:

WHAT A RETURN!! Break point.


Veno Says:

wowwwwwwww

What a forehand!!!!!!!


rose Says:

holly cow….delpo is good


Veno Says:

oh my god!!!!!!!!!!!


Maso Says:

Holy crap, Roger’s lucky he got out of this one!! Well, he hasn’t held yet, but break point saved.


rose Says:

great defense from fed…


Veno Says:

tension tension tension!


rose Says:

another chance delpo dont waste it now..c’mon!!


i am it Says:

how unlucky dePo and how beautifully fed saved that break point.
another chance for dePo to break.


Maso Says:

Delpotro a bit nervous again on that forehand. He’s getting some crazy returns in, though. And on Roger’s 1st serves!


Mary Says:

Polo: “Why don’t those two guys grunt?”
Because it’s Flushing Meadows, not the East Village.


Veno Says:

Fed is amazing under pressure…..


Maso Says:

And an ace to seal it off. Nicely done by Fed. Delpotro’s hanging in there, though, very strong mentally.


Veno Says:

Is this a cracker or what?


Shaky Says:

In case nobody has made this point, this set Del Potro has been a mirror image of soderling. He’s gambling on basically every shot, taking big cuts at every return (even on first serves) just to stay in it.

I hope it doesn’t end this set, but the level of play has really reached a nice level regardless. Really impressed.


Kimo Says:

Delpo is playing tha match of his life. If Fed comes out on top at the end, Delpo can go to sleep knowing that he gave it his all. Fed is almost playing the entire match on his 2nd serve.


Veno Says:

Von, I won’t go as far as to say Juan Martin already walked through the door which gives entry to Rafa and Fed’s living room, but he’s on the door step ringing the door bell


rose Says:

fed is one of best when it comes to play under pressure…let see what delpo will do to answer back…i want a 5 set !!!


Polo Says:

Mary, I don’t know what you mean. But don’t explain. I will google what the East Village connotes. Maybe you meant something naughty. Hahaha!!!


Maso Says:

Wow, amazing serving by Delpotro. This could really go the distance.


rose Says:

we are heading to another tie break


Polo Says:

tiebreak time. time for another 6-pack


Maso Says:

Tiebreak!


Von Says:

anyone see a similarity in DelPotro’s FH hitting? To me he’s doing a Gonzo and it’s why he misses so much at times = UEs.
_______________

Mary: Do you think Mirka wears hair extensions? I ask this because some days her hair looks fuller and then on some days it looks longer.


rose Says:

wtf double fault…


Maso Says:

Double fault by Roger… not exactly a thrilling way to start it off.


Kimmi Says:

Double fault for fed..


Kimo Says:

Gwen Stefani should leave Roger alone


rose Says:

absolutely amazing FH delpo


Mary Says:

Von: OMG I was just thinking the same thing. She must use them.


Polo Says:

Murray, Djokovic and Nadal have reason to worry now. Federer has nothing to worry. He place is secure.


rose Says:

people loving delpo in the ash stadium


Maso Says:

What a lucky call by Roger! Hahahaha!


Polo Says:

Roger is panicking.


rose Says:

wowwoow..this match is so freaking weird


Mary Says:

Here we go!!! someone’s gonna get bi$chslapped.


Veno Says:

oh my god!!!!!

What’s happening here!!!!!!!


rose Says:

this is gonna break delpo concentration


sensationalsafin Says:

what’s going on? i’m watching on mute????????????


rose Says:

maybe not..lol


Veno Says:

5-2!!!!!!!!

2 points from a 5th set!!!!!!!!!


Maso Says:

Wow, Del Potro is playing perfectly in this tiebreak.


Veno Says:

Can he keep it cool? I think so, and Von you were right!

5-4…here we go….


rose Says:

delpo has the nerves to close this set..we will see??..


Veno Says:

set point!!!!!!!!


Maso Says:

2 set points Del Potro. 6-4.


Kimmi Says:

Delpo groundies are too power for fed..


Maso Says:

And we are going into a 5th set.


Veno Says:

ladies and gentlemen, we have a fifth set!!!!!!!!!


Kimo Says:

This match is now Delpo’s to lose.


Veno Says:

Agassi-Martin the last 5 set final back in ’99?


Von Says:

Please somebody tell DelPotro that the fist-pumps after every point is so un-cool. Enough already and lose the fist-pumps.


jane Says:

Woot! Going 5 sets…

tenisbebe, I couldn’t wait to watch the taped, so I decided to tune in from the 3rd set on. But thanks for your advice anyhow – can rewatch it later and catch the other sets.


Polo Says:

Serena sounds as sincere as a crying hyena.


rose Says:

well done delpo..until now roger was the king on tie breaks ….great tennis from delpo and roger too..making this entertaining


Von Says:

Veno: Didn’t I tell you DelPotro will win the tie-break? I don’t like to see the giants play tie-breaks because they have an unfair advantage IMO.


Kimmi Says:

Wow delpotro..he keeps impressing me. He is improved so much this year and even though I am the biggest fed fan I will not mind at all if he wins this.


Maso Says:

Wow, what a treat. A 5 setter for the last slam of the year! Let’s hope the level of play remains consistent.


i am it Says:

ladies and gentlemen, we had unanimous consensus on 5-setter match. and there you go. our wish fulfilled.
dePo has become the 1st man to push fed to a 5th set in the US Open. win or lose. dePo is the new number 2.


i am it Says:

woot, woot, j.
go dePo !


Polo Says:

If I were playing for a major championship, I will fistpump on every point that I win. Playing for a major victory does not happen all the time. I will fistpump all I want. If you don’t like it then go watch something else because I am pumping myself up for a win.


rose Says:

yayyy fifth set here we go..let the best man win !!!!


Kimo Says:

I’ve been watching Roger for a loooong time. Somehow I don’t feel he has it in him tonight, but he has always surprised and impressed me. Delpo is not gonna lose this match, Roger is gonna have to win it. Does he have enough reserves, physically and mentally, to take it from Delpo?


i am it Says:

easy hold for my man dePo.


Maso Says:

Kind of agree with you here, Kimo. Hope Federer can take it up a notch or he is going to lose this one. Unless Delpotro starts showing signs of weakness but so far… seems like he’s holding up just fine.


Kimo Says:

If Roger loses this match, the pivotal point came when he failed to close the 2nd set at 5-4. Had he held then, I would have been sleeping right now.


Polo Says:

I would like Federer to win but I would be fine with del Potro win. This year has already been good to Federer. He got his French. He edged out Sampras. He got his number one ranking back. He got twins. I cannot feel sorry for the guy if he loses.


Kimmi Says:

FH delpotro crushing..wowowo


Maso Says:

15-40. Two break points for Del Potro. Not good for Roger…


rose Says:

break point delpo ..


Kimo Says:

I’m having AO 2009 final flashabacks right now.


Kimo Says:

I can barely see Delpo’s shots at the moment. Insane pace.


Maso Says:

Break Delpotro.


Polo Says:

I had a feeling after the del Potro interview after the French that he had resolved not to lose to Federer in a major ever again.


i am it Says:

dePo breaks. my man is doing it.


Kimmi Says:

Wwow..delpotro..is winning this…IMPRESSIVE or what….


i am it Says:

53-53 winners for each.


Maso Says:

Great passing shot by Federer there. Hope Delpotro didn’t hurt himself.


i am it Says:

easy ball dePo mishit and my man fell. not good. he hurt a little bit. i am sad.


Maso Says:

3-0 Delpotro. This could be quite the surprise.


i am it Says:

dePo consolidates his break. 3-0. beautiful !


rose Says:

3-o delpo


Kimo Says:

Delpo deserves to win this match. period. If Roger manages a 180, which doesn’t look likely at the moment, he’ll deserve the win too.

I hate Gwen Stefani.


Kimmi Says:

Delpotro 3 games from 1st grand slam title…who would have thought..the guy is a fighter…there is no wahy he can give away the lead now


Veno Says:

Wow, DelPo is really close to making it…I can’t see him faltering, Fed will have to dig deep…

Von, I already told you you were right about the breaker, but here you go again.

You were right about the breaker :)


i am it Says:

dePo leads fed almost by double in forehand winners, 35-18.


blah Says:

Wow he might pull it off.


potro Says:

it’s been since montreal 2007 when he lost to Joker that I came to the conclusion that Fed is no more as good as he used to be when it comes to long rallies.


jane Says:

Delpo is so solid…wow.


Kimo Says:

Roger just didn’t have his 1st serve today.


i am it Says:

9th double for fed to dePo’s 6.


Maso Says:

Wow, Delpotro almost decapitated Roger with that forehand that went long!


St4r5 Says:

Shit!!! Come on Fed!


Veno Says:

True Kimo, his serve deserted him today…but 3-1, 1 break…Not over yet…


potro Says:

beleive me, potro is establishing himself as the new sensation and domination of tennis and this is going to be for long time to come


Maso Says:

A lot like the AO, but let’s see. Only one break down, it’s still doable!


Kimmi Says:

Roger says..C’MOOOON


Polo Says:

At least, Federer would not feel so bad that he lost the Autralian for a Grand Slam in a calendar year. I am signing off. This is over. Congratulations to my new favoirte tennis player, del Potro. May your tribe increase. Goodnight everyone.


potro Says:

to sum it up: “the king is dead , long live the king”


Veno Says:

Hmm, small chance for Roger?


Maso Says:

Perhaps. 30-all, 2nd serve.


Veno Says:

Delpo’s fh is just gobsmacking


Maso Says:

And Federer completely missed that backhand. 4-1.


potro Says:

potro, we salute you ! may the strings and rubber be with you!


Veno Says:

2 holds away from a US Open title wow!!!!
Would be something!!!!


Kimmi Says:

4-1 delpotro…


Mary Says:

Gee, Fed wanna put some effort into it.


Von Says:

Wow, this match has taken quite a turn!


Oleg Says:

it ain’t over till it’s over… Roger can still pull the rabbit out of the hat.


i am it Says:

2 games to go from hoisting the trophy. won’t an easy task for a 20 year old kid. but doable.


Maso Says:

Crazy performance by JMDP so far. If Federer holds serve, he’s got 2 more chances to break! Let’s see how this goes.


Kimmi Says:

I think he will cry so much delpotro..can’t wait to see the reaction. He is mentally strong I think he will hold to the end.


blah Says:

I am impressed. I thought he would go away after losing 3rd set, but his mental game looks to be stronger than Djoker’s and Murray’s. Two more games.


potro Says:

Oleg: am afraid fed hat is empty


St4r5 Says:

Del Potro reminds me of Safin! Only better. Hard pounding, Fed might lose this one but he is still number One and will defeat Del in the future.


rose Says:

so close to cross the finish line for delpo but is not over yet…federer is a true champ if anyone can do it is him..


Veno Says:

DelPo has it on his racket!

Will he stay cool?


Mary Says:

Kimmi: If Fed loses, he will be ready to kill, not cry. I blame Stefani. She needs to Holla Back her a$s to the west coast.


potro Says:

how can u think like that, the future is potro, please dont’ put your money on the old dog


Veno Says:

6 points away!!!!!!


Maso Says:

Federer’s forehand goes wide. Followed by a strong 1st serve by Delpotro. 30-0. JMDP is showing no signs of cracking!


Von Says:

DelPotro is holding up very well in the 5th set, and I doubt anyone can question his fitness after this match. Whatever the outcome, both guys played with a lot of heart and may the best man win.


Veno Says:

5 points!!!!

Wow, what a result this would be for the young Argentinian!


i am it Says:

1 game to go. can dePo stay focused for one service game?


Maso Says:

Love game Delpo. 5-2.


Veno Says:

4 points away!!!!!

I think it is going to happen!!!!


Von Says:

blah: The 4 sets turned out to be 5. WOW.


i am it Says:

my heart is beating like a drum.


Kimo Says:

Delpo’s gonna win it. game over.

Congrats Juan Martin. You are a true champ. If anyone deserved to end Roger’s winning streak at the open, it’s you.


Kimmi Says:

Wwowowow delpo…


sensationalsafin Says:

Stupid Fed and his shitty serving. He used up all his aces in the Wimbledon final.


Maso Says:

Yes, it looks like JMDP’s gonna take it. Even if Fed holds, the way Delpo’s been serving… But who knows? Maybe 1 or 2 more games left in this match!


rose Says:

Mary ..lmao “She needs to Holla Back her a$s to the west coast”
thats too funny..


Veno Says:

3 points!!!!


Mary Says:

Fed’s seems to have checked out mentally to Del Po this set.
Good for Del Potro.


Maso Says:

3 points away from the match. 0-15.


blah Says:

Von: I really underestimated Del Potro’s mental game and physical fitness. He has already done more than Murray, win or lose. All those master series can’t add up to a slam, and I can’t imagine Murray being this competitive with Federer in a 5 setter.


been there, done that Says:

Not yet there but…..*congrats* to del.P for lifting the trophy on his first grandslam final.
:)….now if only he could close it!!!!


Veno Says:

2 points!!!!!!!!!!!


rose Says:

oh my godness ..2 point for championship ..


Kimmi Says:

2 more points


i am it Says:

i’ve had belief in this kid for two years now.


Mary Says:

Fed’s seems to have checked out mentally to Del Po this set.
Good for Del Potro.

His family looks more crushed here than at Wimbledon.


Veno Says:

here we go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Maso Says:

2 championship points!!


i am it Says:

match point.


rose Says:

delpoooooooooo..win it !!!!!!!!!!!


jane Says:

Match point!


Kimmi Says:

2 match point fro DELPOTRO…WOOOOOOOOW


sensationalsafin Says:

Interesting that it’s usually Federer who wins 2 tiebreak sets to ensure a 5th.


blah Says:

Wow, their winners and ues are the same amount, and fed has 5 more aces but 4 more double faults also.


been there, done that Says:

CHAMPIONSHIP POINT!!!!!!
DEL_P!!!


Maso Says:

1 match point saved.


Veno Says:

oh my god, what a point on match point!!!!!!!!!!


Maso Says:

Deuce!!! Hahaha, crazy match.


Veno Says:

wow!!!!!!!!!!!

Can he get DelPo to serve for it?


blah Says:

Del Potro has shown his toughness in tiebreaks before this match, but what a stage to reinforce that!


Veno Says:

Fed is giving it his all!!!!!!!!


potro Says:

beleive me, that dog ain’t hunt any more


i am it Says:

easy 2 match point chances dePo missed.


Veno Says:

his FH is unreal…..Never seen anything like it!


Kimmi Says:

I am sure his hande are nervous delpotro….but he still can his big FH


jane Says:

Geez Delpo makes you wonder – who does have the best forehand in the game???


Maso Says:

Double fault by Roger… oh no. Match point again!!


Veno Says:

3rd matchpoint!!!!!!!


potro Says:

his FH making a huge damage


rose Says:

unbelievable!!!!


i am it Says:

3rd match point.


Maso Says:

AND DELPOTRO TAKES IT!


Veno Says:

He does it!!!!!!!!!!!!


rose Says:

delpooooooooooooooooo


been there, done that Says:

!!!!!!!!! DEL_P!!!!!


Kimmi Says:

DELPOTRO DERAIL FED>>wowowowowowo


i am it Says:

new kid in the block. wow. simply wow. congratulation to my man, the great dePo, the new no. 2 !!!!!!!


Kimo Says:

GO DEL POTRO. YOU THE MAN.


Mary Says:

Congrats to DelPo, awesome that he fought back and won.


Oleg Says:

Wow… huge props to JMDP… beat nadal and fed back-to-back to win his first slam.


jane Says:

YAY!!! A new slam champion to finish the year. He really earned it wowow!


Veno Says:

Unbelievable effort!!!!

Great win!!! He deserves it!!!!!

Wow!!!

Great scenes, feel a little for Fed, but hey, all good things come to an end!!!


blah Says:

Juan Martin Del Potro has arrived.


Von Says:

And, DelPotro wins!!!!

Congrats to Juan Martin DelPotro a very deseving winner and congrats to all of his fans.


been there, done that Says:

:)….:)……:)
WOW.
The story here: Del-P wins his first major before Andy-Murray…who would have thought?!


rose Says:

delpooooooooooooo


Veno Says:

First man to beat Rafa and Fed in a Slam!!!


i am it Says:

how did you like that, j?


Mary Says:

Nadal who?


blah Says:

Congrats to Del Potro. He has went through both Nadal and Federer to win a slam. What an accomplishment.


sensationalsafin Says:

See Von. That’s why I’m on the Del Potro bandwagon. And you were complaining he didn’t win a masters shield. Who needs one? He’s got the mother f*cking US Open.


Kimo Says:

And to think that this guy ate a double bagle loss from Fed THIS YEAR. WOW


Maso Says:

Crazy match! Lots of ups and downs, a lot of tension. But wow, congratulations to Delpotro. He was tough from beginning to end (Excluding maybe the two double faults that cost him the 3rd set). Roger put up a good fight, didn’t find his first serve enough early on, and totally got outplayed by JMDP at the end of the match! Incredible. Quite exciting to have a new slam holder in the top 5.


andrea Says:

wow. fed just went away in that 5th set again. and the double faults!!!! serving disaster.

congrats del potro!!!!! you deserve it!


Von Says:

blah: Next GS will be Richard’s.


been there, done that Says:

Del-P is officially GOAT for beating the two greatest players of his era in a row! woooohooooo!!!


Veno Says:

Congrats to all his fans!

He has arrived in the big leagues!!!

Unbelievable mental strength from the young guy!


Tennisfan Says:

Fed’s serve abysmal today … hard to beat someone that has that much game … he should have ended it in the 2nd set … let the fish off the hook too many times …

congrats to delpo … and the beginning of gangly tennis …


Kimmi Says:

He wants to win this one he says…Blah..I agree..Delpotro has arrived.

CONGRATULATIONS. Fed congrants to make 4 finals this year..


Maso Says:

More unforced errors than winners overall during the match, though. There was a lot of sloppiness throughout the match, but what a display of nerves by Juan Martin!


jane Says:

I wonder how high he’ll go in the rankings before next year? He’s five now, but he’s close to eclipsing Djok, who has YEC points to defend, and then there’s Murray, who also has lots to defend… hmmm. One would think this man has nowhere to go but up? Anyhow … whata win.

Fed kind of collapsed a bit in the fifth, which is unusual as he’s done so well in them in slams these days — except for in the AO 5th, but that was against Nadal. JMDP stopped Fed from the Tilden record too.


Veno Says:

Finally we get to see an exciting US Open final!!!


St4r5 Says:

The reason why Roger lost today is due to Monday Final!!! Be it Sunday, he would have won it.


blah Says:

Von: I can only hope, lol. Here’s hoping that the next Wimbledon goes to Roddick. He deserves it.


jane Says:

i am it – liked it! Great final.


Veno Says:

get m/b got


Kimo Says:

Fed didn’t have his serve all match. You can’t beat a guy like Juan Martin with a poor serve.


Mary Says:

F’ off Enberg.


Von Says:

sensationalsafin: I did not complain about DelPotro not winning an Ms tourney. I merely mentioned that he could not be considered a top 4 player because he didn’t win an MS, and that’s an opinion, not a complaint. I believe many others stated the same.
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Veno: Would DelPotro be ranked No. 4 due to this win?


i am it Says:

i am so happy happy happy happy happy
i cannot tell you how much i am happy.
my man dePo did it in style by beating rafa and roger in two days in a row.
just unbelievable.
i share my joy with all of you. thank you all for your support for my man.


Rick Says:

TOLD YA,MAN! THE YOUNG LIONS DONOT FEAR DARTH FEDERER! MISTER FED ALLSTOP SAID HE HIT THE BEST SHOT OF HIS CAREER AGAINST DJOKOVIC! INDEED HE IS RIGHT! HE COULD NOT COMES UP WITH BETTER SHOTS AGAINST DEL POTRO! HE DOES NOT ONLY FEAR OF NADAL. HE ALSO AFRAID OF DEL POTRO, MURRAY, SIMON GILLIES, TSONGA AND THE LIST GOES ON! LOL


Mary Says:

don’tcrydon’tcrydon’tcrydon’tcry


Maso Says:

A bit disappointed for Roger, but he’s had an amazing year. Broke Sampras’ record, took back the #1 ranking. Now we got more suspense left for the two final master series events of the year as well as the YEC.


Veno Says:

Fed looks ok, sure it stings, but he seems fine, Juan Martin just the better man!


Kimo Says:

The no. 15 and the carerr slam that Roger has now has made him a much more gracious loser. And even as his biggest fan, I’m not saddened by this loss as much as I would have been a year ago.


Von Says:

blah: Hope is a good thing, and DelPotro came out of nowhere a year ago to win this, so why can’t Richard?

I’ll ask now that the match is over, why didn’t Fed serve like this at Wimby? for some reason Roddick always brings out Fed’s best.


Maso Says:

Hey, that’s Roger’s first USO plate! I guess he’s got at least one of each now, hehe. 15 grand slam titles, 1 AO plate, 3 RG plates, 1 Wimbledon, and now 1 USO! … I’m not sure he’ll be happy about that particular part of his collection, but hey!


Mary Says:

“New York, you’ve just added to the love this man has felt around the world.”

Dear God Enberg! Von, force Enberg to move to Florida and shove him into an Everglade.


Veno Says:

Juan Martin humble and happy as it should be.

Great moment for the young American.


Mary Says:

Von: so why can’t Richard?
Um… Richard is French.

This was a fun USO.

I’m gonna get a PhD so I can give away car keys on t.v.


Veno Says:

Juan Martin humble and happy as it should be.

Great moment for the young ARGENTINIAN


Maso Says:

Well, he is south american so.. that does make him an american, Veno! hehe.


rose Says:

awwww the big gentle giant did it !!!!..way to go kid..well done..


Veno Says:

I think Fed will get over this one soon.
He has his family, had a great tournament, lost to the better man on the day.

He’ll be fine….


Kimo Says:

I’m off everyone. Good night. :)


Veno Says:

Maso Says:

Well, he is south american so.. that does make him an american, Veno! hehe.

LOL


Von Says:

Maso: I guess Fed can take up a job as a waiter now. LOL.
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Mary; I doubt even the crocodiles would want Enberg; he’ll put them to sleep. LOL.

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Veno: “Juan Martin humble and happy as it should be.

Great moment for the young American.”

American? The Argies will rip you apart for taking away their guy and giving him to the Americans.


Elwin Says:

Congrats to DP!

Because it’s Federer you always feel it’s his own ‘mistake’ that he lost… He did have a lot of chances but wasn’t 100% i think.

DP really has an impressive mentality for a 20 yo.


Von Says:

Goodnight Kimo, and have a glass of wine.


sensationalsafin Says:

LMAO yeah Fed’s got a lot of plates now. Federer didn’t cry this time, though, he was smiling. Can anyone tell me what he said, I still had to watch on mute.


Veno Says:

Vonnie, I corrected myself :)


Rick Says:

They both rested well, so there is a fiftth set for the open this year! lol I am so glad that, Del Potro didn’t do all the dirty job for Mister Allstop! Told you that he had easy draw for playing Soderling over and over! Now that he could cut that smug if his for saying stuffs like hitting the best shot of his career! Where are Brady Bunch now? lol


jane Says:

Maso ” 1 AO plate, 3 RG plates, 1 Wimbledon, and now 1 USO! ”

He can have a dinner party… lol


Von Says:

Fed’s undoing came in the second set with that drop shot. I wonder if he’ll think about that tonight. It’s somewhat similar to Roddick’s 2nd set tiebreak shot, which was A-Rod’s undoing.
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Veno: Did you see my post on the ranking? Will this win put JMDP at No. 4?


sensationalsafin Says:

Honestly, Federer wasn’t at his very best. I think it’s age. He’s 28. He’s got 15 slams. He’s still number 1 in the world -_- I think his time should come to an end. Del Potro is awesome. I hope he wins a slam or 2 next year. I wouldn’t mind Federer winning 1 or 2 more slams before he retires, but I want new champions. Del Potro is great. Give Roddick a Wimbledon. Toss Djokovic a US Open. OMFG, I know!! I want Del Potro to win next year’s French!!! As for the AO, well, Murray, you are the weakest link. Time to step up to the plate.


Veno Says:

Hey Vonnie, looks like the leeches jumping on this opportunity to start hating again….So sad


Veno Says:

Von says:

Veno: Did you see my post on the ranking? Will this win put JMDP at No. 4?

No it won’t Vonnie, but he’s closing the gap to Novak and putting distance between him and A-Rod

He gets 6825 pts, Novak has 7480, A-Rod has 5310


Von Says:

Rick: “Where are Brady Bunch now? lol”

Trying to climb up to the top of the DelPotro bandwagon. LOOOOOL You won the award for the best quip today. LOOOOL.


Veno Says:

jane:

dinner parties at Lendl’s house, he has 11 plates :)


Maso Says:

‘I guess Fed can take up a job as a waiter now. LOL.’

LOL Von

On a sidenote, Murray’s now got a lot to prove, considering he’s the only one in the top 5 without a slam now. As much as I would have liked Roger to take this one, Delpotro winning the USO adds a lot of spice to the mix. Really looking forward to the year end championships now! (not that I wasn’t before, but the line up’s gotten tastier)


Rick Says:

What Del Potor should had said in his presenttion? It’s “Don’t Cry For Me Argentina!” Indeed, we don’t! The whole world and Argentina will be smiling and cheerings for you! But Mister Fed Allstop, you could cry now!” lol


Veno Says:

Ah well, at least Fed has the set of 8 complete :)

The 3 he didn’t have before this year, he got!!!(Ozzie plate, Coupe des Mousquetairs and the US Open plate)


tennisontherocks Says:

Congrats Del Potro. Roger had his chances, but really happy to see a new face in the champion circle. Del Potro should do well indoors and will be rooting for him to crack top 4 by end of the year.


Veno Says:

Maso: Actually Andy Murray is the only 1 of the top 6! without a Slam :)


Von Says:

SS: “As for the AO, well, Murray, you are the weakest link.”

You mean Andy’s playing that game now. LOL.
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Veno: “Hey Vonnie, looks like the leeches jumping on this opportunity to start hating again….So sad”

There’s nothing we can do about them; they’ll talk and talk and talk. I suppose they’ll eventually get tired.


Giner Says:

Well, I am stunned. I’m wrong and I eat my words. JMDP has become the first player to beat Federer in a Slam final other than Nadal. This kid has the complete package: Great serve, backhand, forehand, wingspan, return of serve, mental toughness. No major weaknesses. He deserved this title.

How sad that Dick Enberg was reluctant to let him speak, and cut him off early. How rude! It was his greatest moment and he deserved more than a few curt words after an entertaining 5 set performance.

JMDP looked tight in the first set and things went according to script. When he got broken in the 2nd set, I thought it was going to be over in a hurry and for inexperience to kill him. Fed would make him his bitch as he did everyone else. I got bored and sleepy and was about to tune out. Very lucky I didn’t tune out.

The scoreline is basically what Fed did to Nadal at Wimb 07. Won the 2nd and 4th sets in tiebreaks and the 5th set 6-2.

For Federer it’s a real shame. Not a good serving day for him. No 6 in a row, a feat that will probably never be matched in this generation. 5 is the number, just as it was at Wimb. With 15 slams and a career slam, his career is complete, the pressure is off, and no more tears this time. At least he didn’t spoil JMDP’s moment. It remains to be seen in the press room how he reacts.

I really have to say that right now JMDP is the second best player in the world, regardless of rankings numbers in the computer. He’s leapfrogged Andy Murray in the pecking order, and in time Djokovic too.


jane Says:

Von, I don’t think he’s 4 yet, but he’s nipping at Djok’s heels now. There’s a very good chance he could overtake him since JMDP didn’t do much at YEC last year whereas Djoko has winning points to defend. Also doesn’t Murray have one or two titles to defend this fall as well? He’ll lose those Madrid points and then he won another one didn’t he? Can’t remember. Anyhow, if JMDP plays as well during the indoor season, I can see him getting to #3 by year’s end, or close anyhow.

We need the math / stat experts now.

This win by JMDP might light fires under the Andys and Djoko, not to mention Fed, and Nadal.

Next year should be AWESOME! I love tennis.


Veno Says:

Hey Von:

Rick’s doing it again, makes the best quip and then ruins it again with his very first post after that….

Oh Rick, Won’t thou yever learn?


Polo Says:

Congratulations to del Potro! What an achievement to win your first major by beating numbers one and two along the way. Very well deserved. Roger did not look too displeased which made me, a Federer admirer, happy. He looked happy for del Potro pattimg him on the back after the picture taking with him holding the plate and del Potro holding the trophy.


Maso Says:

I’m sure Fed woulda loved to bring home AO and USO cups back home instead, but you gotta admit he’s got the full set now! No 16 for this year, but perhaps we can still see Agassi’s master series record tied before the end of the year! Or perhaps Delpotro’s going to come out and dominate the end of the season. But Djokovic has got a lotta points to defend since he won the masters cup last year so… still a lot on the line! (though, admittedly, for Roger, only records and perhaps a few points here and there to secure the year end ranking)


Max Says:

I’m so happy, I’m so happy, I’m so happy


jane Says:

Veno says … “dinner parties at Lendl’s house, he has 11 plates :)”

LOOL!! Good one! Hope you’re not too disappointed that Fed didn’t win #16, b.t.w.


Kimmi Says:

In his speech delpotro said “I want to be like you Roger, and this is only a start, you never give up..you fight till the end” Like delpo speech… very humble indeed as he is considering himself still learning. Learning he is and good luck to him.


Von Says:

Maso: “Really looking forward to the year end championships now! (not that I wasn’t before, but the line up’s gotten tastier)’

I think that it’s safe to say both JMDP and Roddick will qualify for the YEC, especially JMDP.

Next year JMDP will have a ton of points to defend, and defending is always more difficult.


Rick Says:

I always wanted someone to beat someone to beat Fed Allstop! Even if he is only a ballboy! lol I did said Del Potor is good against Rafa! But it would had been a better match! If Rafa wasn’t hurt!


Mary Says:

Remember that twin baby who was glaring at the camera?
I blame that arrogant little baby girl for her dad’s loss.

Oh, no, Gavin is not taking the loss well. We are now at code red in nyc.

I have to go drink wine for DelPotro b/c he is underage.


Veno Says:

Jane: Murray won also St.Petersburg for 500 pts October ’08 :)

He will have a chance to defend his Madrid points at the inaugural Shanghai Masters Series Tourney though…

If Juan Martin can carry this momentum forth he’ll be the number 3 at the end of the season, however Murray and Novak in form could still fend him off.

Fed’s almost a lock for number 1 and Rafa, when fit, will most probably be second(hardly any points to defend)


Polo Says:

del Potro has down what only Nadal has done so far. I am impressed with his mental strength. He has the big serve, the forehand, the mobility (amazing for a guy so tall, makes me think of Usain Bolt) and the mental strenght. He is very likeable, too. I love those tears he shed when he accepted the trophy. Reminds me of Roger after his first major at Wimbledon. A very bright future awatis this man.


sensationalsafin Says:

I said it even before the final was played. With Del Potro winning, Murray is the only one without a slam in the top 6. And even though Roddick’s slam was ages ago, he’s atleast proven at some point he can do it (and imo this year’s Wimbledon proved it to me, too). And let’s look at Federer’s 7 USO finals:

04, demolished Hewitt, but Hewitt did fight back in set 2.
05, Agassi is up a break in the third after splitting the first 2 before Fed picks his game up (or Agassi tired, whichever you prefer).
06, Roddick and Fed are dead even until the end of the third set where Fed takes over again.
07, Djokovic has 7! set points and could have easily been up 2 sets instead of down 2 sets.
08, Murray gets raped.
09, Del Potro digs as deep as possible to topple the 5 time champ in 5 sets.

My point? Murray’s the only one who never really pushed Federer. Blame it on the schedule, but Murray pushed in set 2 and collapsed when he failed.

Murray has a lot to prove. More than any of the other top players. Either way…

JUAN MARTIN DEL POTRO IS THE FUTURE OF TENNIS!!


Mary Says:

In his speech delpotro said “I want to be like you Roger, and this is only a start, you never give up..you fight till the end”

Roger replied, ” You see that weeping ninny, Mr. Stefani, take him. Take that larger sized woman with the nice hair extensions; don’t forget that emaciated woman with the edible wig; and the bleached blonde– take them all– that is a start to being like me.”


jane Says:

Yes, as some have mentioned, this does add pressure for Andy M, unfortunately, since all the others in the top 6: Fed, Rafa, Nadal, Djok and now JMDP have slam titles. That is too bad, because I’ve no doubt that Murray has the quality to win one, but each time he doesn’t the pressure might mount. Hopefully, he ignores it and just buckles down. Mind you, once a guy wins a slam, that also creates a different kind of pressure.


Mary Says:

In his speech delpotro said “I want to be like you Roger, and this is only a start,…”

Roger replied, ” You see that weeping ninny, Mr. Stefani, take him. Take that larger sized woman with the nice hair extensions; don’t forget that emaciated woman with the edible wig; and the bleached blonde– take them all– that is a start to being like me. Oh here, take this RF hat.”


Rick Says:

My last name not Brady, but someone on here is! And there were people here who spoke the same tone as her! lol (sing) My name is Brady


Mary Says:

jane: Wow, that is a good point with Murray being without a slam.


Von Says:

Veno: I didn’t see Rick’s post undoing his best quip. Don’t worry about it, your guy’s still the best.
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Rick: Behave yourself and stop angering the Fed fans with your taunts. Be nice!
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jane: Yes, JMDP will be munching not nipping on Djoko’s feet. I mean by this win he took a big bite for sure, but next year will be a lot of stress for the guys who need to defend a lot of points. However, …… only time will tell …..


Kimmi Says:

Mary LOOOOOL


Rick Says:

So now Del Potro is the new saviour in tennis! Another player Fed Allstop would fear to meet in his draw! lol Salute to Del Potro for restoring the world order! lol


Veno Says:

jane Says:

Veno says … “dinner parties at Lendl’s house, he has 11 plates :)”

LOOL!! Good one! Hope you’re not too disappointed that Fed didn’t win #16, b.t.w.

Thanks for asking jane, but no, not really.
Good things come to an end and Fed has 15 right? Career slam right, great life right?

Would have been cool if he did it but Juan Martin was the better man. Never have had problems with Fed losing, he always gives it his best.

And I like the fact we have a new champ, a youngster who deserved the win! Great scenes.

On a side note, I really felt sad for Andr Roddick at Wimby this year. I actually would have liked to see him win, because of the history, but also glad Fed won of course.

Let’s see, now that pressure is off at all slams for Fed(this was his last domain he was forced to give up) how tough he will be at the slams next year…

If he wins the Ozzie…I can bet ya he’ll be gunning for a calendar slam!!!

Good times ahead in tennis and as a tennis fan before a Fed fan I am truly happy with this past US Open!!!!

I’ll finally get my normal sleep hours in again too!!!


Maso Says:

‘Roger replied, ” You see that weeping ninny, Mr. Stefani, take him. Take that larger sized woman with the nice hair extensions; don’t forget that emaciated woman with the edible wig; and the bleached blonde– take them all– that is a start to being like me. Oh here, take this RF hat.” ‘ LMAO MARY

On a more serious note, I’m fairly convinced that JDMP will be #1 one day and have thought so since Roland Garros, honestly. The guy’s got the chops and the mental strength. Hope Djoko can get back the level he showed us in early 2008, ’cause there’ll then be some heated competition between those two, I wager.


Polo Says:

How inappropriate can some people get at this time of celebration. Can we not just be happy for the guys and their entourage for playing well enough to get to the final?


Von Says:

Mary:

“Roger replied, ” You see that weeping ninny, Mr. Stefani, take him. Take that larger sized woman with the nice hair extensions; don’t forget that emaciated woman with the edible wig; and the bleached blonde– take them all– that is a start to being like me.”

You’re making me laugh so much that my face is hurting and it’s also hot. LOOOOOOOOOOOL

This was the best ever for fun today. LOOOOOL.


jane Says:

Mary you’re too funny. JMDP is 20, is that underage in NYC? In lots of places in Canada, it’s 19 and you’re legal.

Von, indeed – defending is much harder than the rise up.

Thanks for points details Veno :)


Polo Says:

That French loss was probably the best thing that ever happened to del Potro. He realized he could hold his own against the likes of Federer and he felt how bitter it tasted to get so close and fail. He has been very determined since then.


Veno Says:

LOL@ Mary,

best post in weeks!!!
Roger replies…..hilarious!!!!!


Mary Says:

Happy for the entourage? Gavin just declared jihad on NYC. Instead of relaxing, watching the season premier of Gossip Girl, I now have to go to a bad neighborhood and buy a bazooka to keep that “Glycerine” freak from destroying my apartment building and place where I buy wine.

Maybe Marilyn, Boy George’s old bf, will take him back: http://www.yardflex.com/archives/marilyn_gavin.jpg


Maso Says:

What a win for Delpotro, still a bit stunned by this final. Taking down Nadal in the semis and Roger in the final (in a 5 setter, no less), how much better can it get?


Von Says:

Mary; Boy George? WOW, it’s been a long time since I’ve heard his name. Cam cam chamelian — loved that song.


Rick Says:

By the way, I found out there were challenger round in the early US Open and Wimbledon. Which is like round robins in the masters. So it is not fair to compare Federer for the titles he won to with previous champs.


Veno Says:

I think Andy Murray would be wise not to talk so much anymore stating he’s one of the top favourites at the HC and Grass slams(remember Ozzie Open this year and again at the US Open) He needs to figure out how to do what Juan Martin was able to do. It will be his biggest test, but I think he could do it though.

For some reason I can’t see Murray not winning a Slam, but he’ll have to figure it out fast or his window is going to close on him soon…


i am it Says:

giner says, “How sad that Dick Enberg was reluctant to let him speak, and cut him off early. How rude! It was his greatest moment and he deserved more than a few curt words after an entertaining 5 set performance.”

exactly. i felt the same way. what do you expect from a Dick-hea?


Von Says:

Rick: Please not today, STOP with the barbs, it’s not nice to do that — bad timing. How about next yeaR?


Giner Says:

I forgot to add that I’m very happy for JMDP. I sounded like I wasn’t. I am. When he cried, I almost cried myself. I wasn’t rooting for either player, I just wanted a good match, and I got it.

DP has got chances to win at other majors too. What puzzles me is why he sucks so much at Wimbledon. He lost in the 2nd round to Hewitt — a has been who is no longer a threat to win anything. What is it, the speed? It’s supposedly somewhere between the US and the French in speed and bounce according to what people say around here.

Will people really continue to call Murray a favourite for the majors? Will he be ahead of JMDP? It’s the second or third (maybe even fourth) major where he’s disappointed. He’s got time on his side, but at this point he hasn’t met the expectations placed on him. I would call him the 4th best player of 2009 with Djokovic the 5th. I expect JMDP to stop losing to these guys above him now.

JMDP deserves to be the one getting the attention and being talked about now. The draws are going to be interesting from now on. People won’t just be looking at where the top 4 guys get placed, but also where JMDP gets placed, and who gets him in their quarter (not someone they will want to meet) along with Roddick. It used to be just between Fed and Nadal fans to look at who gets Djokovic in their HALF. Now there is more to the equation, and men’s tennis is as healthy and strong as it has been since before Federer started winning slams.

No one can any longer say that Federer lacks competition or that his rivals are weak. He set a new standard, and it’s taken time, but these guys are meeting it.

It’s still an incredible achievement for Federer too, who made all four GS finals this year (7 in a row).


Skorocel Says:

Congratulations to Juan Martin del Potro! Beating Nadal and then Federer back to back to win the title – well, what else can you ask for? Welcome in the club, Juan Martin!


Polo Says:

Federer did not look too disappointed. He has already achieved what he wanted to achieve. This Open also made it obvious that he still has in him to win a couple more majors before he finally retires from the game. Smart guy that he is, he knew there were parts in his game that were missing, like his serve, and he seems to accept that and not feel bitter about the loss.


Veno Says:

I agree too i am it. Also Fed just said 2 lines, which is good…nice and short, and Juan Martin should have had much more time!

What a pity….

Also his never ending babbling about the prizemoney and the bonus and the car…..They are nice gravy for the winner,but please, that’s not a time where that has to be made point-central….Sheeshhhh


Von Says:

I believe CBS wanted to switch to their regular programming and it’s the reason Enberg cut off JMDP so quickly. However, I also think CBS could be more flexible in cases such as a the USO, considering the USO only happens once per year. But then again, CBS has zero respect for tennis.


Maso Says:

I think JMDP’s much happier about being now part of the small club of tennis players who have won slams than about the 1.8 million dollars he just won. That’s icing on the cake. He just took down Federer in a 5 set final at the US Open, Del Potro’s favorite slam! The first of more slam victories to come, I imagine!


Von Says:

JMDP did what Nalbandian failed to do, and that’s a shame because David has so much talent but sadly he never capitalized on it.


Elle Says:

Well, this is one time I am glad you were wrong. I had the same prediction though, and am glad to cheer loudly for Del-Po.


Von Says:

WOW, Mr. Randall must be upset, no article and it’s been over an hour since JMDP won.


Veno Says:

We’ll see what happens with Juan Martin now, as stated before, after winning your first slam, psychologically the dynamics change.
Some thrive on it(Fed, Pete, Rafa), others have difficulty adjusting and dealing to how they are perceived from then on and how they see themselves(Djokovic, Safin)…

Interesting to see in what category JMDP will fall.


Polo Says:

del Potro is now in that select group of players who have beaten Federer in a slam final, namely: Nadal and del Potro. How good is that!


Maso Says:

Nalbandian’s one of my favorite players. Always disappointed to see him miss his chance at the slams. When he’s got his A-game, he can take anyone on the circuit, like we saw at the end of the year in 2007 when he took Madrid and Paris. If he’d gone to the masters cup (I think he was missing 50-100 points or something, behind Gasquet) in that kind of form, Fed mighta not taken his fourth title.


Von Says:

Veno: somebody’s going to write shortly:

I was right again. My prediction was right. I picked DelPotro to win and I’m never wrong. LOL.


Veno Says:

Von:

I love tennis and a pity Roddick ran into Isner, but this has been a great US Open with finally a great final!!!

The future belongs to the Gullivers like you have said rightfully many times before. I wasn’t totally convinced then, but now I am.

I think the Lilliputians have the ball in their court now and will have to find a “David-esque” way to go after the Goliaths on the tennis court.

How many gentle giants will take heart in Delpo’s win? They’re on the move and the grounds are shaking!!!!


Polo Says:

Veno Says:
We’ll see what happens with Juan Martin now, as stated before, after winning your first slam, psychologically the dynamics change.
Some thrive on it(Fed, Pete, Rafa), others have difficulty adjusting and dealing to how they are perceived from then on and how they see themselves(Djokovic, Safin)…

Veno, I think del Potro will do better that those guys. He seems very determined and does not like to lose. I will go back to the French Open loss interview but I am getting repetitious about that.


Maso Says:

Might be the beginning of a new tennis era, with taller players dominating. Shorties gotta find the debug! Other than breaking their legs before the match. (Don Corleon method, not recommended)


Veno Says:

Polo Says:

del Potro is now in that select group of players who have beaten Federer in a slam final, namely: Nadal and del Potro. How good is that!

Even better my friend:

DelPo is the 1st!!! player to beat both Rafa and Fed(back to back Semi and final is even more impressive) in a Slam.


Veno Says:

Polo: regarding your assessment of DelPo….
Could very well be true, if I had to gander a guess I would say he falls in the Rafa, Pete, Fed category, but let’s wait and see ok?

Remember after Novak won the Ozzie Open last year?


Von Says:

Veno: This is the age of the giants.


Maso Says:

I agree with you there, Veno. So far, Delpo has shown that he is very strong mentally. I think he’ll go on to win more slams and take the #1 ranking eventually. Maybe I’m dead wrong, but when you see the strength he displayed today to take this final (regardless of Roger’s relatively poor serving), you gotta think the guy’s got what it takes to do it again. But only time will tell!


the_mind_reels Says:

I’ll preface this by saying that I’m a huge Fed fan, so it’s never fun to see your guy lose. That said, I think if there was one person who really deserved to win, it was JMDP. He stepped up, played his game, and didn’t back down.

Tactically, I think Fed just played the poorer match: low serve percentage, went into JMDP’s monster forehand way too much, and didn’t convert enough break point chances. JMDP took his chances and played the big points better. He’s shown the tennis world that he’s the real deal, and I like that. He seems like a real good kid who plays with heart.

That Fed was able to keep it so close despite clearly not playing his best was pretty impressive, but hats off to JMDP today — too good, and bravo!


grendel Says:

Well, one thing we learnt – and it wasn’t clear at first – and that is that Federer can’t win a big match when his serve is off. His second serve was pretty good, and almost got him out of trouble, but in the end it wasn’t enough.

It was confirmed what was really already obvious, that Delpo is a very, very strong young man, physically, mentally and emotionally. I do believe he will be #1 before too long. It’s too early, obviously, to say he is the best player in the world, but he sure is shaping up that way. I once thought Murray was a certainty to achieve #1. Not so sure at all now.

I have been finding Delpo exhilerating to watch for just about a year now, and he is the one player whose vocal noises not only do I not mind, I find they actually enhance the spectacle. There is a certain kind of steam engine type noise he makes which indicates a powerhouse of a drive is on the way, and it absolutely adds to the excitement. Wasn’t all that much in evidence today, oddly.

b.t.w., I haven’t been able to read the posts, did anyone mention how for quite a large part of the 5th set he took the pace off his serve and even some of his strokes – and the tactic worked. He is a very canny fellow, on top of everything else.

Whither Federer? Does he have the motivation to keep challenging? I believe so, because a) tennis is genuinely his passion and b)he wants to put that slam record out of reach at least for a few more years than Sampras did.

Will he be able to? I think he’ll need some luck. But he’s in with a shot to win one or two more slams providing he doesn’t mislay his serve again. But equally, he might just be that little bit too old now, particularly with so many outstanding players right on his heels.


Giner Says:

Even better my friend:

“DelPo is the 1st!!! player to beat both Rafa and Fed(back to back Semi and final is even more impressive) in a Slam.”

I know of only one opportunity (to meet both Fed and Nadal back to back) for this to have happened, and that was Andy Murray in the 08 US Open. Every other time, the guy who meets one of them doesn’t get to play the other. Djokovic beat Federer at AO 08 but Tsonga denied him the opportunity to meet Nadal (which would have been a mouth watering match up!). It’s not saying much that no one has managed to beat them both. No one puts themself in the position to, and it doesn’t really matter, especially in this instance since Nadal wasn’t even the #2 ranked player, so what makes him special?

Here’s something amusing: Del Potro’s official website delpotrotenis.com misspells ‘tennis’, unless that is how it’s spelt in Spanish.


NachoF Says:

Mark my words.. this was a fluke… the future of tennis is Murray… Del Potro will very likely just be a one slam wonder.


paula Says:

Some peeps have brought up Nalbandian- I’m a huge Nalbandian fan and as happy as I am for Delpo I do wish for a Nalby come back- and wish he’d been the first Argentine to win a slam since Vilas, and so on and so forth- but hey! A great final. Bless both those men.


sensationalsafin Says:

Sampras THRIVED after his FIRST slam win? Uhhh, no. He’s the one who’s pointed out countless times what a difference it makes after winning the first one. Atleast JMDP got one. Murray has NOTHING. He’s a “Masters” player. So while Murray is winning Masters, JMDP will be racking up the Slams.


Maso Says:

Sampras did take a lot of time to win his 2nd slam. 3 years, I think, between his first and his second. US Open 90 and Wimbledon 93, unless I’m mistaken.


Andrew Miller Says:

I thought Fed wouldnt shank so much!

All credit to del potro. The age of giants indeed. I thought he was great.

Federer usually beats all of the giants, but it was “too good”. Someone who sticks with Federer until the bitter end usually has a chance to win and only at that point. credit to Potro for pulling out the W. Roddick almost had him at Wimbledon, and del potro got him at the US Open.

All that said: a good year for Federer. #1 in the world, made finals of all four majors, won 50 percent of them and the career slam, plus becomes a father of twins and gets married. Awesome year.


Veno Says:

NachoF Says:

Mark my words.. this was a fluke… the future of tennis is Murray… Del Potro will very likely just be a one slam wonder.

Lol, talking about delusional….

For now JMDP is a one-slam-wonder, however that beats a no-slam-hardly-a-wonder that Murray is :)


Kimmi Says:

“Mark my words.. this was a fluke… the future of tennis is Murray… Del Potro will very likely just be a one slam wonder”

NachoF ..to beat fed and Nadal back to back in a slam, shows a great chance that you are here to stay. As we have seen, its not easy to beat both, you need to have strong mental strength and that is what Delpotro has shown.


huh Says:

CONGRATULATIONS TO DEL POTRO, CONGRATS TO FEDERER AND CONGRATS TO ‘i am it’- the Del Potro fan no.1 ! EPIC FINAL, MEMORABLE ONE! AND PROUD TO BE A FEDERER FAN. I ALWAYS SAW CHAMPION’S MATERIAL IN DEL POTRO, I’M HAPPY!


Giner Says:

grendel Says:

“Well, one thing we learnt – and it wasn’t clear at first – and that is that Federer can’t win a big match when his serve is off.”

Actually, we learned this in Australia this year. Exactly the same story. Serve % sucked, served some doubles at bad moments.

“Will he be able to? I think he’ll need some luck. But he’s in with a shot to win one or two more slams providing he doesn’t mislay his serve again. But equally, he might just be that little bit too old now, particularly with so many outstanding players right on his heels.”

People don’t just go from young enough to too old in a matter of months or one tournament. It happens gradually, and last I checked he won the two slams before this one. He might be out of contention for the 2011 AO (even that isn’t certain), but not the 2010 AO.

Agassi won majors in his 30′s, and Federer says he intends to play until 36. He’ll eventually have to focus solely on the slams like Pete and Andre did, but he can do it as long as he stays aggressive and doesn’t let his opponent make him do all the running.

Von Says:

“I believe CBS wanted to switch to their regular programming and it’s the reason Enberg cut off JMDP so quickly. However, I also think CBS could be more flexible in cases such as a the USO, considering the USO only happens once per year. But then again, CBS has zero respect for tennis.”

They were already late, so what difference does it make? This might end up being a one in a lifetime event, you never know. For him to not be able to bask in the moment longer would be like for someone to cut short his wedding. It’s a special moment, and some exception should be made for it. They can catch whatever they’re airing some other time.

The AO doesn’t put a time limit for people to speak, and don’t ask you to answer a question. They just let you go up and speak freely. The guy just pulled off an unbelievable feat, denying the greatest player of all time his 6th straight US Open title. He won his first and inflicted Federer his first ever defeat in a US Open final (he had lost at least once in the finals of the other three slams). It’s not a feat most people expected him to pull off. Sean called it ‘doing the impossible’. He deserved more time than to answer one piddling question from Dick. He had to ask so many times before Dick would relent. :(


Andrew Miller Says:

“You have to be either an Argentine or Andre Agassi to beat Federer at the US Open, and even that’s usually not enough.”

Loss 2001 Agassi
2002 Nalbandian
2009 Del Potro

Win: 2003, 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8!


Veno Says:

sensationalsafin Says:

Sampras THRIVED after his FIRST slam win? Uhhh, no. He’s the one who’s pointed out countless times what a difference it makes after winning the first one.

True, very good point…With Pete it was after winning his second(Wimby ’03) that he flew off!


Daniel Says:

Wow, I can only think of this to say: Winds of Change!

Congrats to Delpo amazing win. An US Open for the ages!!!

Fell only sad for Fed, as I wish at some point in his stelar career he should have all 4 Slams at once, I thought this was his best shot to set AO 2010 as a goal. Now Slams will be harder to get, but he is still the man to beat 7 finals in a row and counting.


zinaldo Says:

I really wonder why aren’t more of roger’s fans pissed about this,i really am as roger yet again choked away a match that was between his hands,roger started so well but i guess like always he thought he could just put on a bit of a show and scare off martin but soon as del potro started fighting back,it was actually roger who crumbled.

What a pathetic serving day for him aswell,if that wasn’t nerves,but how can you be nervous against a player you have always hammered in the matches you have played against him,also after winning that firs set so comfortably you would have thought roger would have been more confident.

But no he actually become more nervous and that pathetic mind and backhand of his made his all game rubbish aswell,i am now sure that roger actually knows he has a crap backhand and when it isn’t functioning the way it should,he puts too much pressure on his forehand wich also misfired badly today.

Why some fans aren’t pissed maybe because martin del potro played well and deserved his win but he outlasted roger like nadal did at the ao8 this year that should be worrying for roger as now days apart from the french,he has had to go all the way to 5 sets and lost 2 of them,but the worrying thing is that even players like roddick,hewitt and now del potro are taking sets or beating him.

Roger was amazing in his prime but how many people could really test him,as they weren’t that many athletic players to get his balls back,wich made him look better than he really was,also that obvious weakness of his,with his backhand,he was able to mask it very well with his massive forehand and slice but now even that so called strength is becoming a liability.

All that andy roddick has done is work on his fitness and he took roger to 5 sets at wimbledon,roger almost lost to him in miami this year if it wasn’t for that net cord,people need to wake up and smell the coffee,roger is going the way sampras went,he will start losing badly at the slams but by then it would be too late for him to do anything about it that awful bakhand,that is all nadal,murray,djokovic,nalbandian,roddick and now del potro have done to make him have fits,can you imagine if the all tour start hammering that wing aswell.

Roger has a very big problem with breaking records,yes i know he won 15 slams but he could have broken mcenroe games in a row,lost to canas out of all people,could have broken the wimbledon record by winning 6 times,lost to nadal and today could have made history but lost to del potro,do you see the trend here,pressure is something roger doesn’t deal well with.

When the so called goat continues to choke away matches the way he has done all year,you start to ask or wonder is he really as good as people think,one thing that is for sure,roger will be hoping for no nadal in any finals of a slam anytime soon as i certainly expect rafa too win,tired of not tired.

I would guess he might have 1 to 2 more slams left but to do so he will have to come out to win and not play with fear of losing wich have cost him at the wimbledon 08,australia 09 and now us open 09,is it me or are slower surfaces becoming roger’s best,who could have thought so.


Giner Says:

“NachoF ..to beat fed and Nadal back to back in a slam, shows a great chance that you are here to stay. As we have seen, its not easy to beat both, you need to have strong mental strength and that is what Delpotro has shown.”

This is overrated. The reason no one has done it is because no one has had the opportunity (except Murray and Soderling — I was wrong when I said Murray was the only one with a chance). Every time a player beats one of them, the other guy gets beaten by someone else before they get a chance to meet, since they’re always on opposite sides of the draw.


Veno Says:

Fed lost in 2000 too(to Juan Carlos Ferrero)
Fed lost to Max Mirny in 2002
And he lost to Nalby in 2003

:)


Andrew Miller Says:

Hey, I am ALWAYS ready to sign a

“Fire Dick Enberg and ban him from tennis programming forever” petition.

“I, Andrew Miller, from the U.S. sign this petition to FIRE DICK ENBERG AND BAN HIM FROM TENNIS PROGRAMMING FOREVER”


Andrew Miller Says:

Whoops. I got the stats, wrong – So Fed loses once in a while at the US Open. It’s pretty darn rare.

As for Federer losing frequently, yeah right1! the guy hardly ever loses. He is the best player of all time, and even though Roddick came close, Federer won – that’s why he’s got more slams than anyone on the planet and in the history of the game.

But he lost – and if he’s winning with more effort these days and still winning 50 percent of the slams and making all the finals of the majors, taking 5 sets to lose…pretty amazing work. Any player will take that year – any player. They would be crazy not to want that kind of result.


sensationalsafin Says:

What’s the big deal if Federer loses when his serve is off? That makes sense to me. And it still required 5 sets to beat him (both at the USO AND AO). So if he gets to another major final and his serve is clicking, he has a great chance to win. Which means… we’ll get new slam champions? I fuggin hope so.

Either way, Del Potro is the real deal. You don’t crush Nadal then beat Federer in 5 sets as merely a fluke. And it’s not like this came out of nowhere. I picked him to get to the final in my bracket. Too bad he won, he screwed up my bracket (not that it was good to begin with). But I thought he’d win after yesterday’s matches. I think it’s great.

But Murray, he sucks. He needs to learn how to play tennis.


Veno Says:

@Zinaldo

You can’t have the cake and eat it too.
Being a passionate Fed fan I applaude your enthusiasm, but it sounds like you need him to win everything and have every record to get satisfaction.

Look at the year he’s had? Rejoice in that.

He got beaten fair and square by the better man on the day. Credit where credit is due. Juan Martin deserves the match. Fed didn’t choke it away.
The guy always leaves everything out on court.
He gave it his best, it wasn’t enough to win today. He’ll be back!


Veno Says:

Giner my friend,

there are more instances, everyone who beat Rafa in a Slam before the Semi would have had the chance, but didn’t go on to face Fed, except for Soderling and Murray…..


Andrew Miller Says:

Sheesh, I erased Roddick’s 2003 win. That was wrong! Roddick definitely earned that 03 win.


sensationalsafin Says:

Zinaldo, I’m shocked at your words.

He’s got 15 slams but that doesn’t matter, he should’ve broken more records. What a pathetic player.

You don’t deserve to watch tennis.


Veno Says:

Signing off here…

Von: je t’aime and speak to you again.
Won’t find me on this for a while now…

Everybody, thanks for your posts/comments/insights/quips/analyses adn passion for tennis.

I thoroughly enjoyed it.

C ya at the next tourney!!

For me it’s Davis Cup next weekend woohoooo
Go Netherlands!!!!!


Veno Says:

Giner:

What about Gonzo at Ozzie ’07?

Totally forgot him!!!


Polo Says:

Veno Says:
regarding your assessment of DelPo….
Could very well be true, if I had to gander a guess I would say he falls in the Rafa, Pete, Fed category, but let’s wait and see ok?

Remember after Novak won the Ozzie Open last year?

Veno: The fact that del Potro was able to withstand both Federe and Nadal in a Slam event and on back to back days, speaks very well of him in both physical and mental abilities. But I so agree, the next couple of majors will tell us for sure.


zinaldo Says:

You seem to think he can switch it back on just like that,the problem is that twice this year nadal and del potro have beaten him because his serve was awful but also because physically but more so mentally they were tougher than him.isn’t that worrying for you,it is for me.

Roger is or has been great but the weaknesses in his game and mind are starting to come back out in the open,all you have to do is stay with him and attack that rubbish backhand,soderling did so and took a set off him,but it is mentally more than anything that worries me about federer,how can the so called goat be so fragile mentally,you could tell he was nervous and that he had no confidence in his forehand at times,all he wanted to do was it with a lot of topspin and not actually go for his shots,aggressive play that is what brought roger 15 slams,if he doesn’t make that open out forehand against haas at the french he would have been out the competition and to see him play passive and be scared to attack really makes me mad.

I don’t mind him losing if he actually goes for his shots but the way he played today he completely gave the initiative to martin with that pathetic high topspin backhand and cross court topspin forehand,if that isn’t playing safe then i don’t know.

Roger cannot win slams by playing defence like nadal as he just doesn’t have the legs or the left arm to do so.


sensationalsafin Says:

Yeah. Fed’s phyisically weak. Yeah. Spot on.


Andrew Miller Says:

Nah. I am not going to feel sorry for the greatest player of all time.
If Federer has done anything wrong, it’s to show that it is npossible to play perfectly for many years. No one else is capable of that, and I doubt anyone to come will be able to do that. Federer hasn’t only becoem the best player in history and won more grnad slams in history or made more finals or more semifnals consecutively: he’s made all the players better by showing them how well they will have to play to beat him. We owe Federer some gratitude for improving the sport. He stood on the shoulders of Edberg, Becker, Agassi and Sampras to become the best of all time and raise the entire level of the game. Del Potro would not be as good today, were it not for Federer.

So thank you Roger Federer for reviving the sport. You and Nadal deserve a beer!


Andrew Miller Says:

Feder-beer.

“Year after year, it’s pretty darn good.”


jane Says:

Polo says “He has been very determined since then.” (re: JMDP after losing to Fed @ FO). Actually I don’t know if anyone recalls, but after Delpo was on that tear last summer, winning four tournaments in a row leading into the USO, he lost to Murray in, I think it was, R16 or maybe the Quarters. Anyhow, after that loss, Delpo broke down in tears in his presser as he was so disappointed to lose! At that point, I thought to myself – wow, this guy is going to be dangerous. He is extremely determined.

Indeed. He proved that in this event.

Also, in Montreal, Peter Burwash, the Canadian commentator, noted how JMDP didn’t participate in any off-court activities, and even ate his meals by himself in the locker room or something. Because he was focused. Hmmm…

Sure did him well to skip Cincy also.


jane Says:

Also meant to ask this again – do people now rate his forehand as one of the best in the sport? After that display today, it seems to be up there.


zinaldo Says:

He might not have been in the past but the way he seemed to off in both 5th set of the slams this year is rather worrying at least for me.


Andrew Miller Says:

Nah. Aint gonna worry about fed.

If it hasnt escaped anyone….Federer has now made the finals of 20 slams since 2004…20 out of 24 grand slam tournaments.

Aint worried about fed!


grendel Says:

Sensational Safin: I believe Zinaldo is talking from his heart, and I don’t think he deserves to be so harshly slapped down. He makes some genuine points.

Zinaldo, I too was continually shocked by the topspin b/hand, but then I have always been bewildered by Fed’s b/hand, many aspects of which are wonderful, including, sometimes, the top spin bh. But today, and frankly on numerous occasions, it was perilously short, and simply invited Delpo’s smashing it away.

As for the passive play, well for the first set and a half, Federer was quite outstanding. Something happened, didn’t it, which riled him, and he just seemed to lose his focus, and became almost another player. Very dangerously, of course, he gave hope to his opponent, who became another player himself. I think you have to mark this down as mental weakness on Federer’s part, and to that extent,Zinaldo, I agree with you.

Federer’s whole demeanour, for the last three and a half sets, was actually very strange. He seemed to be simmering with anger – couldn’t put it away. That was weak – look, very human, I understand absolutely! But then I am not trying to win grand slams…

It is always difficult trying to correctly apportion praise and blame. Delpotro absolutely was the better man, and from now on, whatever happens, I think Fed will find it very difficult to beat him. But there’s no doubt that Fed was partly responsible for his own woes, and I would be amazed if he is not kicking himself on that account.


Polo Says:

Me neither. I won’t worry about the Fed. He has already done what any player could dream off. Of course he will be disappointed but that should last only until he sees his twins. He does not have to prove anything to anybody anymore. Everything else concerning tennis is to improve his own records. They are already way ahead of everyone. If he stops right now, he should be proud and so should all his fans and other tennis fans.


sensationalsafin Says:

I agree Andrew Miller. I made a post about that a long time ago. If nothing else, Federer has improved the quality of all tennis players. Thank God for him. And thank God for Nadal who made Federer become better which made everyone else become EVEN better. Their rivalry is nothing compared to their tremendous impact on the improvement of the sport. It seems like around 03/04, the men’s tour and the women’s tour were on the same path until they took split up. Think about how bad men’s tennis would be had it not been for Federer.

I don’t care if Federer never wins another slam (I think he will, though). He’s won plenty. It’s time for some new champions.


Polo Says:

jane Says:
Polo says “He has been very determined since then.” (re: JMDP after losing to Fed @ FO). Actually I don’t know if anyone recalls, but after Delpo was on that tear last summer, winning four tournaments in a row leading into the USO, he lost to Murray in, I think it was, R16 or maybe the Quarters. Anyhow, after that loss, Delpo broke down in tears in his presser as he was so disappointed to lose! At that point, I thought to myself – wow, this guy is going to be dangerous. He is extremely determined.

Thanks for that information Jane. So it dates back even before the French. This guy del Potro is for real then. I hopw he keeps his focus. I have no doubt that he will.


Twocents Says:

Congrats to me (again) — I picked JMDP from the begining and Fed had not been providing much fire thruout this journey to change my mind. He looked and played old. Soderling should have ended his SF streak. But, Fed’s Fed.

JMDP finished his failed mission at FO. Good deal for Fed though: trading USO for FO!

Awesome tournament.


Polo Says:

Agree, 2 Cents, Fed got a good trade off. “I will give you the US Open, I have five of them already, but let me take the French, I just need one to complete my resume”.


Dan Martin Says:

Great win for JMDP! As a fan, I was sad to see Federer’s streak end, but how could anyone not be happy to see JMDP’s genuine expression of joy after winning? The kid is for real. I will write something up by Wednesday.


sensationalsafin Says:

Did anyone hear what Federer said? LMAO. That’s hilarious. What a gangster.


jane Says:

That’s true Twocents; maybe I’ll start laying down some cash on your picks from now on. Delpo would’ve paid off nicely. ha ha.

Of course I never bet anything, not even two cent, but still. Are you a betting man? Maybe you should be.


grendel Says:

“I don’t care if Federer never wins another slam (I think he will, though). He’s won plenty. It’s time for some new champions”.

That’s an entirely different point, and a perfectly valid one.

Nor is there any reason to be so defensive. Of course Federer’s record is extraordinary, and of course he has every reason to be proud of his achievements.

But he has stated that he wishes to continue playing on the tour for some years. Therefore, it is quite reasonable to have a look at what appear to be his most glaring weaknesses – as I am sure he and his entourage will – with a view to considering what he needs to address in his game.

Of course, he could just rest on his laurels, and quietly fade away, content to get to the 4th round, that sort of thing. Nothing wrong with that. The fact remains, though, that he is still very ambitious.


Von Says:

Veno: Bye to you and I’ll catch ya whenever you visit again. Enjoy DC and I hope the Netherlands wins for your sake. Well, it’s back to a busy schedule for me and I have a lot of catching up to do. Take care mon ami, and remember, j’etaime bien.


Skorocel Says:

zinaldo: Yep, Federer’s mental toughness has been questioned after that AO 2009 final loss to Nadal (and more or less after every loss which he suffered to the Spaniard), but so far, he’s been the only one who could make Roger get that far. Why? Because he’s mentally as strong as is Federer (if not more).

In other words, ask Djokovic, Murray, and even JMDP what would they give for being such “mentally fragile” as is Fed… I bet they wouldn’t mind.

P.S. If only I had such “rubbish” backhand as has Federer!


Twocents Says:

Polo,

Even Fed can have more than enough some slams — unlike some of his fans :-)). The loss today does not lessen him a single bit for me a devoted Fed fan. Good to see he was able to push it to 5th with those funny 1st serves.

Jane,

Even a broken clock is right twice a day. After all my annoying chantings of Fed’s aging, I have to have my share of glory.

No cash bet for me either. Only let my heart bet against my head. Whichever wins, myself turns out a winner :-)). And my own wallet a loser — on drinks etc.


Mary Says:

Federer has now faced: DelPotro, Roddick, Nadal, Murray, Gonzalez, Nole, Hewitt, Baghdadis– I may be missing some in finals. It’s amazing to span an entire generation in such a consistent manner.

It was nice to not have Sampras’ record looming over the event. Also, the sport needs a group of guys to step up and now join DelPotro.

The big loser this season has been Nadal. Even if he was on death’s door, he should have shown up at Wimbledon, even if he went out the first round. It’s like the sport has passed him by now. Even if he wins another slam, do you want to compare a guy that is filled with “injury” excuses to the guys that stick it out each tournament? Not really when you have a new generation coupled with older players, such as Hewitt and Roddick, who are still putting forth an effort no matter what the result.


grendel Says:

Federer has displayed huge mental strength, over and over again. But, just like a player’s serve can be off, so, sometimes, can his mind. The generally strong can sometimes be weak. That’s just a fact of life. People aren’t machines, of which you can predict such and such with perfect confidence.

re Delpotro’s match at US Open with Murray last year. Delpotro was just exhausted, and yet, just when all seemed to be lost, he still kept coming back at Murray. I personally was of the view then that he was potentially stronger than Murray.


jane Says:

Twocents “Only let my heart bet against my head. Whichever wins, myself turns out a winner ”

Excellent strategy. Sounds like it would work for me. Fed’s a winner even though he lost in the final, with the year he’s had. He’s sleep okay tonight I suspect.

Gavin might have nightmares about a certain tall Argentine, however. ; )


jane Says:

*He’s s/b He’ll sleep okay


Mary Says:

Jane: While all of NYC is having living nightmares of an irate Gavin. My neighbors, ensconced in their fortified bunker on their brownstone, have spotted Gavin atop the Empire State Building.

When I turned the channel after the match, there was a raid on a home of suspected terrorists in Queens today. Seriously. It was wrong to laugh. I was happy it was AlQueda-related and not Gavin-related terrorism. It was, what is now, the annual “hey, were still out there rounding up the bad guys(?)” arrest that seems to now annually comes a few days after the 9/11 anniversary.

Someone I knew ages ago met Gavin. She had a large picture of her and Gavin backstage. Gavin was totally potblasted.


Ezorra Says:

“Even if he was on death’s door, he should have shown up at Wimbledon, even if he went out the first round.”

- Stupidest statement ever!


Mary Says:

Ezorra: I understand you are his fan. It was never quite clear what was happening with nadal due to the conflicting Uncle Toni, Pr Person, Nadal statements. If he was okay to play soccer, golf, jetski, and train, it would have been a good idea to show your face at Wimbledon.
At least hang low, so your face isn’t in the papers enjoying/playing sports while you are injured.

Champions show up.


blah Says:

The big loser this season is Andy Murray. At least Nadal beat Fed again and got a hardcourt slam. Andy Murray has been picked for a slam since last year’s showing at the U.S.Open. He only made one semi at Wimbledon and now he has become the odd one out. Fed got his FO and slam record, Djoker improved on his fitness/image. Roddick got much better and got this close to Wimbledon, and JMDP broke through. As for Nadal, a guy who wins a slam in a season can’t be considered a big loser.


Ezorra Says:

Mary, you know what… instead of talking about somebody else, why don’t we just celebrate the great win of Del Potro? I think that is more relevant now.


Giner Says:

Mary Says:

“Ezorra: I understand you are his fan. It was never quite clear what was happening with nadal due to the conflicting Uncle Toni, Pr Person, Nadal statements. If he was okay to play soccer, golf, jetski, and train, it would have been a good idea to show your face at Wimbledon.
At least hang low, so your face isn’t in the papers enjoying/playing sports while you are injured.

Champions show up.”

There’s a difference between having a casual hit and actually competing. If he went to Wimbledon he’d be expected to compete, not play for fun. Do you actually expect his sick-leave activities to be strenuous or intense? Any soccer he played would have been light and amateur. Golf and jetskiing don’t stress your knees either. Ever seen a golfer get injured playing golf?

Why should a person show up if they’re injured? How far can you go with this? Would you even expect someone to play if a leg got amputated?

If it makes recovery harder, then it would be bloody stupid. People complain about the season being too long already. They way you talk, it sounds like no one should miss an event no matter what.

“The big loser this season has been Nadal. Even if he was on death’s door, he should have shown up at Wimbledon, even if he went out the first round. It’s like the sport has passed him by now. Even if he wins another slam, do you want to compare a guy that is filled with “injury” excuses to the guys that stick it out each tournament? Not really when you have a new generation coupled with older players, such as Hewitt and Roddick, who are still putting forth an effort no matter what the result.”

You must have missed the part about Hewitt missing a good six months of the season mid last year from injury.. Did you know he skipped the US Open last year? He didn’t play at all after the Beijing Olympics because of an injury. Does that make him as big a loser as Nadal, who only skipped Wimbledon and no Masters events? It would be nice if you did your research first.

He also missed a French Open a few years back too (his ranking was a direct entry). According to you, he should have played it no matter what.

If Nadal’s injury happened after the US Open it would be a non-issue even to you. It’s a matter of timing. If I got injured at work, I’d be taking time off too. If a person is a big loser because they skip an event to nurse an injury, well he won’t have been the only loser. There’d be plenty.


Skorocel Says:

Dan Martin on JMDP: “The kid is for real.”

Indeed he is. I mean, who would’ve thought after that AO quarterfinal thrashing which he suffered at the hands of Federer he would be lifting the USO trophy after beating the SAME guy in the final? I certainly wouldn’t.


Twocents Says:

“Champions show up.”

Good one, Mary.

But you have to applaude Team Nadal’s superb plot (as long as you’re not one of his ticket fans): Nadal leaving NYC a no.2. That’s what he got after setting a record of the first ever no-show Wimbledon defending champion.

And let’s not forget Nadal got AO after his another unique record: the only world no.1 who did not show up at YEC.

Something got to give.


Giner Says:

Veno Says:

“Giner my friend,

there are more instances, everyone who beat Rafa in a Slam before the Semi would have had the chance, but didn’t go on to face Fed, except for Soderling and Murray…..”

I don’t count it unless they got to play both of them. You can’t blame someone for not being able to beat both players if you only had a chance to play one of them. Just as the person who beats Fed in a slam can’t have beaten Nadal if someone else already did. Can they be blamed for that?

It’s a very obscure statistic to track players who beat Nadal but don’t go on to beat Federer. What even makes them two special? You can pick any two arbitrary players. Fed & Murray, Fed & Djoker, Fed & Agassi. What makes Nadal special? He’s only #3 seed. It’s not even worthy of a distinction IMO.

Veno Says:

Giner:

“What about Gonzo at Ozzie ‘07?

Totally forgot him!!!”

Good one! Thanks for that one. There could be another too.


Mary Says:

Giner: Hewitt was not defending titles and he is no longer in his prime. I give the guy credit for straightening himself out.
If Nadal’s team did a better job of handling the pr for the injury, it might have gone better for him. But with the conflicting messages and pap photos of him having a merry old time playing other sports, it just casts a shadow– especially when he makes it to the semi-final of the slam and has some wins in the MS.

I don’t want to debate this all night. You have your opinions, I have mine. As I said to Erzorra, I get that you guys are fans.


Twocents Says:

Jane,

Fed deserve some really sweet sleep tonight: he just achieved a career runner-up slam. All four plates collection.


Ezorra Says:

“I don’t want to debate this all night. ”

Thanks. I appreciate that…


Giner Says:

Being able to have merry old times doesn’t make a person capable of competing at a professional level in their own sport. What’s he meant to do in his recovery time off, read a book?

The casual fan isn’t going to be reading about PR or looking at photos of what players do in their private time. The sport is not aimed at people who are into the private lives of its players.

If it’s only when titles are being defended that you are concerned about, Del Potro didn’t bother defending 2 or 3 of his titles won last year pre-US Open (couldn’t be arsed). Roddick didn’t defend Dubai this year (boycott). Murray didn’t defend one of his titles last year and got a 0 pointer (couldn’t be arsed). Marat Safin didn’t defend his AO title (injury). Before skipping that AO, he also didn’t show up for Madrid AMS and Paris AMS, where he was defending both titles (same injury — his time off was very long). Thomas Johansson did not defend his AO (injury). Neither did Andre Agassi for the AO he won in 2002 (injury I presume). Are all these people big losers too?

And yes, you have your opinions and I have mine. But you’re not stifling mine just because you don’t want to debate this all night.


Giner Says:

“But with the conflicting messages and pap photos of him having a merry old time playing other sports, it just casts a shadow”

Are you saying that his injuries might not have been real? Because if that’s the case, wouldn’t he himself have wanted to show up for Wimbledon? What could his motive be for not playing it? He just wanted to hand Federer his #1 ranking back, is that it?

“especially when he makes it to the semi-final of the slam and has some wins in the MS.”

You realise that this happened 10 weeks after he took time off, right? Injuries do heal, believe it or not. The explanation is incredibly simple. He couldn’t play Wimbledon, but he got better 2 months later (2 months does a lot for recovering from injury especially when it isn’t serious enough to be in a wheelchair) and was able to make an SF at the next major. How much time must pass before he can legitimately win a few rounds of an MS and make a semi at a slam? 6 months? 2 years?

“I don’t want to debate this all night”

And yet you are here, in a place that seems to have been made for rabid fans to debate other rabid fans all day.


ShayHay Says:

I was not able to join tonight’s discussion during the match, because of work :-( But I read your comments and you guys were great! I was smiling the whole time. I felt like I was part of it all.

Anyhoo…CONGRATS DEL PO!! I knew he had it in him. I’m so glad he won.


Mindy Says:

Mary,

I am going to let loose after your comments trashing Rafa. You have a lot of gall talking that way about a champion with more guts, heart and courage than you will ever have in your life. It is truly shameful to have to read these kind of self-indulgent cheap shots at someone like Rafa, a young man who has given so much to the sport of tennis.

I can stand almost anything here, except this despicable questioning of Rafa’s reasons for not playing Wimbledon. What on earth can you be thinking? Have you lost your wits? This guy just played a grand slam after all of two tournaments worth of match play, nowhere near peak form, also nursing what has now been revealed as a stomach tear. Yet I have to read such drivel from someone who doesn’t have a clue about Rafa at all.

Your comments are the reason I will not stay on this site. Where does this kind of hate come from? I have to wonder. Thinking back to Rafa’s incredible win over Federer in the 2009 AO, when everything was against him and he had no reason to win, makes me realize what a great champion Rafa is and always will be. Why didn’t he give up then? Why didn’t he just go through the motions or not play at all? You can decide that you don’t like Rafa or his game, but to question his commitment and courage and heart, is outrageous.

Shame on you for trashing this fine young man. But you can never, ever take away what he has done. So, the game has passed him by in his absence. He had the nerve, in your opinion, to withdraw from Wimbledon for no good reason. I realize that you got this from Sean Randall’s blog in which he basically said that Rafa withdrew from Wimbledon because of a fear of losing, not because of his knees. Yet in the next breath, you and others say he is through because of injuries. The contradictions would be laughable if they weren’t such an insult to Rafa.

You know, I feel sorry for you when it comes right down to it. You don’t really know Rafa at all. You missed what he is all about. That’s your loss. Too bad. You missed a lot by being so blinded by ignorance, dislike and disrespect that you couldn’t see the greatness of this young man. He’s not done yet. But people like you will never see it, because you have hate in your heart and emptiness in your soul.


Mary Says:

Mindy: I’m sure it was not you who posted such a rant that usually lands people in places like Bellevue. You may want to consider locking your computer when you are away from it.

It seems that someone– crazy aunt, Unibomber– logged onto your computer and posted such a odd rant about, what is to you, a total stranger about another total stranger.
You seem to think you have some kind of connection to this tennis player, like he talks to you through your television set or computer.
I swear I read the same thing in a TigerBeat magazine ages ago. Were you a big Simon LeBon fan?

I think it is also possible that Squeaky Fromme is living in your house with you unaware of it.

Or you are drunk or in need of a meth fix.

I wanted to point this out, so for you not to be embarassed whenever you: a. sober up or b. walk in to your home to discover.

I googled some sayings:
“Easy does it
One day at a time.”

You are in my prayers and I’ll put in a request at my local parish to dedicate a mass for you,
Mary


Giner Says:

Twocents Says:

“That’s what he got after setting a record of the first ever no-show Wimbledon defending champion.”

You’re wrong about this one too. Goran Ivanisevic who won the title in 2001 did not show up to defend in 2003. Do the research guys!


Giner Says:

“You’re wrong about this one too. Goran Ivanisevic who won the title in 2001 did not show up to defend in 2003. Do the research guys!”

^That should read 2002. He won in 2001, but did not return in 2002.


Mary Says:

Are you really comparing Ivanisevic’s career to Nadal’s career? Give Nadal some credit.

If you are doing so, you may be risking a rant from Squeaky Fromme– call her “Mindy.”


Mindy Says:

Mary,

When you have been called out for saying something totally illogical and false on its face, I would seriously advise you to think twice before questioning my mental stability and sanity. I am not a nutcase who posts lies and hatespeak and questions the very real and rational reason why a champion calibre tennis player withdraws from a grand slam.

Your gratuitous insults are the last refuge of a twisted, delusional mind. You are the one who needs help. Also accusing me of using drugs is in bad taste and an indication that you are a true low life who does not know how to respond whey you are called out. You never defended what you wrote, because you can’t. Simple as that.

You don’t know ME and should not presume to assassinate my character or well being. The fact that you do is because you have no class. THe Squeaky Fromme comment was especially repulsive and offensive. But bringing up someone connected with the Manson family would be right up your alley.

It’s kind of pathetic that you have to resort to the very lowest depths in an attempt to justify your despicable comments. As I said before, I feel truly sorry for you. But since you seem to have an affinity for people associated with the Manson family, maybe you should visit those responsible for the murders. They are sociopaths with sick, deranged minds who would have a lot in common with you.

People here know that I will defend Rafa right to the ground. They know that I admire and respect him enormously. There is nothing wrong with honest passion and a desire to stand up for an athlete that has given me inspiration and a great deal of joy. I have not been fortunate enough to meet Rafa and do not pretend to know him personally and never have. But observing him on court, in countless interviews, I have reached some informed opinions about him. I am entitled to do that.

I really thought that maybe it would be possible to find some common ground with people who are basically not Rafa fans. I stand by everything I have written and believe that the sane, logical people who have been kind enough to engage in lively, intelligent discussions with me, know where I am coming from.

Nice try to divert attention from your remarks, but it won’t work. You questioned the integrity of a tennis champion and deserve to be called out for it. When I can no longer write real words and start posting incoherently, then you can demean me. If you continue to address me in the manner in which you did in your response, then I will conclude that you are no longer living in the real world and will ignore you from now on.


margot Says:

Mary: in the dark night of the soul, which is where Andy Murray fans live at the moment, your blog made me laugh and laugh. Thanks. And you’ll be no doubt glad to know, I’ve got no idea what Andy thinks…


huh Says:

Hi Mrs Margot, I hope Murray lights up your world by winning next year’s WIM/US! :)


zinaldo Says:

You people don’t seem to see that now days roger has to go to 5 sets to win slams and lose some,that never used to happen,why because they weren’t that many people that could challenge him but now they are.

How can the so called goat,crumble the way roger did,everything was under is control,he just seemed to go from aggressive to passive play very quickly as if he wanted to del potro to beat himself,if that isn’t a new roger then i don’t know.

That is why i say that maybe mentally roger is not that strong or has never been that strong,go to his backhand he would just start missing everything,that must be a real pain to him to pretty much know that he cannot deal with balls to that wing,nadal was the only one who bother him but soderling,djokovic,murray,nalbandian,del potro tsonga have won matched by attacking that wing and that made his forehand become a liability as he goes for too much with it.

People better get used to him being hammered as if his serve is not on,his ground is just not consistent enough these days to frighten the youngsters.


Twocents Says:

margot,

Cheer up. Murray is as sure rising up as the morning sun, whether we see it or not. While we Fed fans have to endure Fed’s career descending into darkness. Both processes are beautiful.

I do not expect the rising star’s smooth sailing, just as I do not expect old guns to deliever all the time. I enjoy as long as they are committed to the tour.

It’s a real testmoney to Fed’s greatness that he still receives so many critics, losing a 5-set final at age of 28 :-)).


margot Says:

two Cents: thanx for your kind words. For you: “The wonder is he hath endured so long.”


thetennisguy Says:

Sean,

You analysis of Federer was absolute spot on. Looking back on the match, his serve and later on in the fifth, his forehand really let him down. Giving all credit to Del Potro for hanging on and staying mentally tough through the middle sets, he really got better and better as the match went on. Tnx. Tennis-X for making this one of the best US OPENs in my lifetime (going back to the 70′s).


Twocents Says:

“The wonder is he hath endured so long.”

Indeed!


huh Says:

Beautifully put by Mrs. Margot and great poetic expression of Fed’s sunset by Twocents, I love you both!


Mindy Says:

zinaldo,

Be forewarned that you are on the wrong site if you are a devout Rafa fan. You are outnumbered and risk being attacked in the most vile manner if you dare to defend your favorite.

You will be accused of thinking you really know Rafa’s deepest thoughts and feelings. Your words will be twisted and distorted to seem to be something other that what you originally intended. This is a losing proposition. I tried to actually meet these people halfway and give some praise to Federer where I felt it was deserved. It was no use.

They will not hear you, they will revile you and ridicule you in the most unfortunate manner. It really is an exercise in masochism to try to participate as a Rafa fan. You will read lies and malicious attacks on him that will be more than offensive. I realized that you can’t have a civil discourse when some people are so biased and blinded by hatred that they refuse to listen to reason.

There are some really great people on here, but the price for having an enjoyable, respectful discussion, is just too high. If you can stand to read someone who still insists that Rafa withdrew from Wimbledon, gave up defending the title that he held most dear, all due to a manufactured injury that did not really exist, then you are a better person than I am.

Good luck to you here. You will need it. I can handle almost anything, but to have to read one more time that Rafa withdrew from Wimbledon out of fear of losing, is just more than I am willing to endure. Just read the exchange posted above and come to your own conclusions.

I will say that it has been interesting to hear a different point of view. The people on here who have treated me decently and listened to what I had to say, are to be lauded. It was good to hear a different perspective. It was also rewarding to find common ground with some Federer fans. They have given me food for thought. While this has ended for me on a very unpleasant and sour note, I am not sorry that I stayed for a while. But I simply refuse to expose myself to some of the mindless ridicule of people who are stuck in their own rut and can’t see the forest for the trees.


Mary Says:

“When I can no longer write real words and start posting incoherently, then you can demean me. ”

You cannot and so I did.

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