Davydenko, Stosur, Wickmayer Win Titles; Tennis-X Notes
by Staff | October 18th, 2009, 7:22 pm

Shanghai ATP Masters 1000
Shanghai, China

Russian Nikolay Davydenko improved his chances of qualifying for the ATP year-end championship on Sunday after giving world No. 2 Rafael Nadal a fast-court lesson 7-6(3), 6-3 to lift the Masters series trophy in Shanghai.
“On the final day, last match, you want to give everything in this match, 100 percent what you can do,” said Davydenko. “And really I lost five finals and I won 17…Really, in finals I play very well.”

Nadal was typically congratulatory in losing to the Russian.

“I don’t like to lose, but I had my chances. He beat me,” Nadal said. “He played very good match. Just congratulate him, because he deserved the victory. He did very well, and with this victory probably he’s closer to being [at the ATP year-end championship] in London.”

In the semifinals Davydenko upended No. 4 Novak Djokovic, while Nadal steamrolled Spanish countryman Feliciano “F-Lo” Lopez.

Generali Ladies Linz
Linz, Austria

Belgian Yanina Wickmayer, still rolling off the momentum of her US Open semifinals appearance, won her second career title on Sunday by defeating Petra Kvitova 6-3, 6-4 in the Linz final.

In the semifinals Wickmayer ousted top-seeded Flavia Pennetta 7-6(5), 6-3. Kvitova for her part upended world No. 10 Aggie Radwanska in the semis. Wickmayer will crack the Top 20 on the WTA Tour rankings for the first time come Monday.

HP Open
Osaka, Japan

Australia’s Sam Stosur broke her 0-5 run in WTA Tour singles finals, finally raising the trophy after a 7-5, 6-1 win over top-seed in the HP Open final.

The win followed a sterling 6-0, 4-6, 6-4 upset over top-seeded Caroline Wozniacki in the semifinals.

“I played very well in the first set and barely made a mistake — I was still playing well in the second and nearly led 4-1 but she got back into the match,” Stosur said. “I just told myself not to panic, keep doing the same things as I did in the first set and stay positive. I tried to do what I wanted to do and not let anything frustrate me. Obviously I’m pleased to bring it back and close it out.”

Schiavone fell to 1-10 in career finals.

TOUR SEASON TOO LONG (EXCLUDING LUCRATIVE EXHIBITIONS, OF COURSE!) — Amidst all the bitching on the ATP circuit about the season being too long, Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal have already committed to play the money-raining Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates, exhibition event at the beginning of January 2010.

CZECHED OUT — Czech Ivo Minar has been banned for eight months after testing positive for the banned stimulant methylhexanamine after a Davis Cup match. The sample was taken in July, and the ban ends in March 2010. The 25-year-old Minar says it was a food supplement that contained the substance.

AND AFTER SHOW THE CROWD YOUR ABS — Wildcard American Jan-Michael Gambill lost first round to Go Soeda at the Tiburon (Calif.) Challenger.

SAM SEDATED — Bonnie Ford of ESPN reports that Sam Querrey had to be sedated at the hospital in China when they brought him in for emergency surgery to fix him up after his arm was badly cut after falling through a glass table. “I couldn’t stop crying and shaking because I didn’t know how bad it was,” Querrey said. Writes Ford, “The glass left a nearly 3-inch-long gouge in Querrey’s forearm muscle but did not sever it — and also barely missed a nerve that, if damaged, could have compromised Querrey’s chances of ever playing again.”

BLAKE AND BARKER BREAK — James Blake and his coach Brian Barker, who has coached him since his junior days, have mutually parted ways. Blake is finishing out the year with fellow Floridian Kelly Jones as his coach. Jones, a former No. 1-ranked doubles player on the ATP tour, has worked with other Floridians Mardy Fish and John Isner.

ANDY WANTS A BURRITO — Andy Roddick is leading the charge for the ATP to follow the WTA in instituting a longer off-season: “I can tell you that six weeks is simply not enough time to recover from the excesses of a season,” he said. “We played almost 11 months, we have a solid block of mandated events, we have to play four of the 500 [-level] tournaments, the demands are getting harder. Heck, I’d just like a couple of weeks in a year when I could overdose on burritos, but I have to watch what I do probably more closely than most players, I train like a dog and when I’m out there, I kill myself to win.”

END OF AN ERA — Andre Agassi says the era of Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal dominating at the No. 1 and 2 ranking is over: “Now we have possibly the changing of the guard. You have those top two who are now losing ground to the likes of (Novak) Djokovic and Murray and (Juan Martin) del Potro…If you’re (Nadal) struggling with your knee, it tends to be recurring and not to be easy to do, so I got to believe he’ll struggle with it probably for his career…From a talent standpoint, Murray is a person who should win multiple Slams. When I look at his game compared to the other players, he has what it takes to win and to win against anybody on any surface.”

ATTACHMENTS and DISILLUSIONS — Mark “The Scud Stud” Philippoussis is reportedly engaged to actress Jennifer Esposito, while Indian doubles star Mahesh Bhupathi is divorcing his wife, Shvetha, after 6-1/2 years of marriage.

JUST PLAY LESS — Marat Safin speaking to the media in Shanghai on all the crying going on about the season being too long: “In 2004, we had this discussion at the Olympic Games with [Andy] Roddick and they were blaming me that I’m playing too much. And I was saying that the season is too long. We should make it shorter. And the guys jumped on me, like I was the one that was wrong. So, look at all of them — everybody is falling apart. Everybody is getting injured left and right, and everybody is complaining the season is long. It takes six years to realize something is wrong? They just have to deal with that, not when they are 21 and ambitious and want to make money. They have to think a bit with their brains to make their careers a little bit longer.”

THE RACE IS…OFF — Tennis writer Tom Tebbutt on the ATP killing its “Race” standings they started in 2001: “The ATP braintrust of the day, citing surveys, believed the Race, starting on January 1, would create interest in a year-long quest for No. 1 as is the case with Formula One Racing…Promoting the Race and hiding the rankings (now re-baptized the Entry System) from the public was a misguided notion because the rankings had long been vital for functions such as entry to tournaments and seedings at those same tournaments…”As part of our changes to the ATP World Tour, we have looked to introduce one rankings system that is as easy to follow as possible,” is the claim on ATPWORLDTOUR.COM. “At times, having two, simultaneous running systems — the rankings and the Race — was confusing and difficult to for fans to follow. The ATP Rankings represents the sport’s DNA.”…Despite its excellent product, the ATP has consistently botched its attempts to re-brand itself, as evidenced by the rankings/Race fiasco. There has also been the changing of its name from ATP Tour (1990-2000) to the ATP (2001 to 2008) and this year to ATP World Tour…As well, it has renamed its year-end championships from the ATP Tour World Championship (1990-1999) to the Tennis Masters Cup (2000-2008) and this year to the ATP World Tour Finals. In the end, who looks good through all the ATP’s tinkering with terminology?”

SENIOR BOYCOTT — Sure we love senior tennis, who doesn’t? Old guys battling it out, a return to finesse over power, yada yada. But as long as there remain two separate battling senior tours (the ATP’s Champions Tour and Jim Courier’s Outback Champions Series) without a unified senior rankings, we’ll be boycotting senior tennis results. Including last week’s Surprise, Ariz., event where Todd Martin beat Andre Agassi in the final. Oops, shouldn’t have even reported that. What’s the point? A bunch of seemingly random events with two rankings systems contradicting each other, an ever-changing policy for players who qualify to play, etc. Good luck with that. Get back to us when you have a semblance of having gotten your shit together…

SHUT THE @!%$ UP — Marat Safin after losing to Tomas Berdych in Shanghai after the Czech took a timely injury time-out in the match: “Just come on, just grow up a little bit — 26 years old, just deal with that. If you’re losing, just be a man, be a man and lose as a man. Don’t pretend that you are injured and then you start running around and start to hit winners and then all of a sudden you pull the hands up in the air after winning the match. You’re playing or you’re not playing. If you’re playing, so just shut [the bleep] up and play.”

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83 Comments for Davydenko, Stosur, Wickmayer Win Titles; Tennis-X Notes

Dave B Says:

I have to say I was very happy that Davydenko beat Nadal and Djokovic. I was beginning to think that you had to be six foot six to win a tennis tournament . It’s heartening to see that that runt beat the hell out of his last two opponents. He sure has HEART.

Von Says:

I like Safin, but it appears that he likes to criticize some players too much, and he also vacillates in what he says. I don’t know why he is angry with Berdych considering he did the same in ’04 when he took an MTO during a match vs. Roddick for a leg rubdown.

Congrats to Davydenko for his MS Shanghai win. He had an extremely tough draw as opposed to those of the SF and final opponents but still came out the victor. So much for the ‘tiredness’ factor. Also, he’s 28 years old and has to be feeling it in the legs, but one would never know looking at him running down the balls. I love his dimples when he smiles. Good Job Kolya — way to go!!

Kimmi Says:

“So much for the ‘tiredness’ factor. Also, he’s [ davydenko] 28 years old and has to be feeling it in the legs…”

After winning in Thailand, he reached Qtr final in Beijing..then a week after he wins in Shanghai. He is then playing Moscow a week after…rest for a week, then plays Valencia and finally in Paris.

In other words, he is playing 4 consecutive weeks then rest for a week and finally finishes up with 2 consecutive weeks.

So far he is gone deep in two, can he survive the rest? Well.. good luck Davydenko you can almost add London in your list.

sheila Says:

as much as i hate 2 admit it, i think agassi is right insofar as, @ least federer goes, that the likes of djokovic, murray & delpo will be next guys in 123 ranking. nadal is still young, although his knees must be taking a beating on the hc surface. its going 2b hard 4me 2get into tennis w/the likes of djokovic & murray @ the top. i’m a diehard federer fan. i guess if i have 2 start rooting 4 the up&comers, delpo & cilic will be my favs. i like gulbis but he is way too inconsistent. monfils & tsonga r too showy & lack the inconsistency of winning week in and week out. isnt roger cutting way back on his schedule in 2010 as well. i hope he can @ least win a couple more majors b4 he slips into the sunset.

sar Says:

So far he is gone deep in two, can he survive the rest?

I hope so. Good luck to Nikolay for the rest of the season. He deserves this win for sure.

aris Says:

Correction for what had Kimmi wrote, actually Davydenko has won in Kuala Lumpur instead of Bangkok. Anyway the way he played against Nadal was very nice. I am sure if he plays like that for next tournament, nobody will beat him (except Federer).

Kimmi Says:

aris, thanks. It was Malaysia not Thailand.

i am it Says:

Congratulations to dj, soderling, davydenko, and Cilic.
sorry for murray, roddick, and simon.

Ranking Update:
(1) Fed………10805
(2) Rafa …….9095
(3) Djoko…….7950
(4) Murray……7390
(5) Del Potro…6315
(6) Davydenko…4700
(7) Roddick…..4690
(8) Tsonga……4040
(9) Verdasco….3400
(10) Soderling..3235
(11) Gonz…….2780
(12) Simon……2765
(13) Cilic……2355

BT Says:

Great to see Stosur finally get the monkey off her back with the win in Japan. With some more solid results she could easily hit the top 10 by February next year.

Twocents Says:

Lat year, Davy had to change his flight home cuz he didn’t expect to make it to YEC final, in anticipation of facing Fed. He played a lousy final.

Glad he pulled off a big one this year. Go Nikolay!

Gannu Says:

Cany any one tell me how much points does one gain if 1) you win the year end ATP world tour finals 2) If you win undefeated i.e not losing a single match even at the round robin stage..

sensationalsafin Says:


grendel Says:

i am it, I’m about to push off and leave for pastures new. Please don’t think our little altercation has anything whatever to do with my decision. I was sincere in praising you but, more to the point, I note how appreciated you are, deservedly so, by many, many posters.

No, the fact is (sigh), the troll is back, screaming her grudges to the world as is her wont. I find, on reflection, that life is too short to be continually gathering one’s energy, mounting one’s charger, and thundering into this strange Alice in Wonderland world, the habitat of the troll, where things mean what you want them to mean and little else. It is just too debilitating – and pointless, not to mention disturbing, I believe, for some bona fide posters.

There is a curious paradox which is worth mentioning. The two posters who have tended to indulge in the longest and most involved posts – that is, me and the troll – are both utterly ignorant of competitive tennis as played at the coal face, so to speak. Considering this is a tennis site, that’s a bit odd, I would say. Don’t get me wrong, I have no criticisms to make of those many posters who share with the troll and me this basic lack of knowledge. That is because they post with a becoming sense of modesty and restraint; and if they sometimes shout, that’s o.k. too, it’s natural to pick up cudgels on behalf of your favourite. But not, for God’s sake, to go on and on and on and on about it and other matters, like me and the troll.

Since the troll – despite talking endlessly about it – will never voluntarily leave this site, and since two of us is just too much, I am happy to bow out myself. As for the humourless, psychobabbling, truth allergic troll – well, there’s a case study for anyone who’s interested. Just one little quote from her, it is addressed to me : “to be truthful, since your return to posting at Tennis X, it’s been a joy reading your posts, and if I might add, I have felt at times, somewhat regretful that I didn’t appreciate your input to a greater extent in the past”. (“Blake falls as….Oct.25th, 2008, 8:01 pm). Even at the time, you know, I allowed myself a wry little smile.

N.b. note on “humour”. Having a sense of humour has nothing to do with being witty, funny occasionally and so on – you can instantly spot the humourless, since they always go on and on about how they love “humour”. No, it’s about having a sense of balance, an unfeigned ability to laugh at oneself, not taking oneself too seriously – not troll like characteristics.

I’d like to end by thanking: daniel, jane, Margot, Sensational Safin, SG, TejuZ, and Zola. I have exchanged sharp words with some of you, not all, but I have also felt honoured that you have engaged with me from time to time. I have learnt a lot from all of you, and not all about tennis, either. Of course, I have also appreciated many other posts from various people.


Von Says:

The troll has left.

Twocents Says:

Sigh. You English know too much English. What’s wrong with trolling on internet? Isn’t typing long posts on tennis the most enviromentally friendly way to heal one’s unhappiness?

grendel, knowing I’m not your cup of tea, I’ll miss your posts here. Please stay.

All the best.

Von Says:

TwoCents: do you know who’s the troll?

Twocents Says:

I wish I did, Von. I don’t even know the Oxford or Webster definition of a troll, to be honest. Guess that alone qualifies me a troll.

With or without a good definition, it’s still all subject to anyone’s explaination. So does it matter? Internet forums are free places to release daily life tensions. Let’s trolling into oblivions.

MMT Says:

I supposed we should be so too surprised that Davydenko was able to beat Nadal. This is the second MC final where he’s done so (Miami 2008).

His match up with Safin in Moscow should be very interesting. Two of the most clean strikers of the ball in the game. On form, Davydenko seems to have the edge, but coming off a victory in Shanghai could be a bit much too ask of the wiry little Ukranian.

MMT Says:


“I supposed we should be so too surprised…”

should read

“I suppose we should not be too surprised…”

margot Says:

i am it: cheers but numero 4 ain’t so bad when you’ve had a couple of months off injured during your favourite hard court season.
grendel: good bye. I’ll give you a wave at the YEC, am sure we’ll recognise each other- we’ll be the ones with the Horlicks and blankets….
two cents: what r u talking about man? You’re everyone’s cup of tea, especially mine….earl grey of course…

jane Says:

margot – most definitely #4 ain’t so bad. nowhere to go but up for Murray. I had to google Horlicks! LOL.

grendel – You needn’t go. But if you must, enjoy the tennis, and all that. I would’ve loved to hear your take on the YEC.

i am it – thanks for the rankings update. I don’t think the top 10 shifting has ended for some reason.

sar – you lucky girl. A holiday in the sun is just what I need. Too bad you had to come home to cold. Brrrr.

Twocents Says:


Nice of you to bear with a stupid Texan. It’s sweet olive blooming season here. So I was busy making some sweet olive tea over the weekend. Too bad I don’t even like them. Just a nice change from all the pumpkin carvings (for Halloween). I can’t tolerate anything else in my tea: milk, sugar, jasmin, whatever.

sar Says:

Grendel, if you are reading this, please stay. Take a break and come back.

i am it Says:

grendel, i second jane and sar’s motion. i wrote a long post but decided to withhold for some reasons. if you want to read, i’d need your email address, which you probably would not publicize unless you create a new account esp for me, which is too much to ask.
be happy, old man, wherever you are.

i am it Says:

j. and margot, dj and murray will likely swap ranks every now and then, and that will extend beyond this year.

i was cheering for soderling more than anyone else this time as this is his first time inside Top 10.

i felt a little bit disappointed with my guy, who i thought would add some points and by the end of the year be in the position to swap spots with dj and murray.

in the race, 7 through 16 still look fluid, though in the ranking roddick will likely get back to 6, and a few others will switch.

so, yes, it’s still all work in progress for the year-end ranking.

j. had to google Horlicks. i had to, too. we hardly drink anything hot in the north americas. so did not get the laugh. i am sure margot will have a good laugh out of this.

Duro Says:

i am it, I would like to ask you something, but I would also like you not to ask me why. Is it ok with you? I just want your answer to be written and stay there, that’s all.

i am it Says:

Sure, Duro, ask me anything you want, but i’ll have to be careful as i will going on the record.

i am it Says:

except for Soderling, it does not matter who wins this week in Stockholm and Moscow.

so, i am already looking forward to Basel and Valencia.

Basel: fed, dj, dePo, gonzu, stepanek, Wawa, kohls, haas, chardy, blake, karlovic, gasquet, troicki

Valencia: Murray, roddick, davy, tsonga, verdasco, soderling, simon, monfils, robredo, D ferrer, JC ferrero

Duro Says:

i am it, did we have any problems between us that I don’t know about? Are we ok or have I got “chewed out by the DelPotro fan (which is you) over here (at Tennis-X) a few days ago and yesterday as well”?
Feel free to answer, i won’t comment it. It will be used only for the purposes of a certain person and me. I won’t go from here and I won’t mention it ever anywhere else. I just want it to be written and read. Thanks.

Daniel Says:

grendel, no need to leave, maybe just a few weeks off will be enough!

Now that you mention, long time since I last heard of Zola. Anyone knows about her?!

sensationalsafin Says:

I’m confused. Why is Grendel leaving? Who’s the troll?

i am it Says:

Duro, we are absolutely and unconditionally 100% OK. we are good friends and hope to remain the same for a long time.

now make dePo your no. 2 fav:)

skeezerweezer Says:

Drama, drama, drama. This is why I barely post here anymore. This is why people leave ( although some should leave )

1) NOT Moderated
2) Why should they? They only care about hits!
3) Stick to tennis! Personal attacks and non-tennis related stuff gets thrown in eventually, hurt feelings, etc.( Hint: Get the persons e-mail address, and then talk about whatever you want )

Anyone want to discuss Tennis again?

Congrats Davy nice match. Never saw Rafa get moved around like that for a long time..

I’m out

SG Says:


i respect your views and appreciate the contribtuons. like sampras after the 2002 USO, you’re heading out of here on your own terms. nothing wrong with that.

If at some point down the road, you feel like jumping in again, i’d look forward to it. i may not always agree with your views but i respect them. Not to mentions the eloquent and classy way you express yourself.

Duro Says:

i am it, thanks for your answer.

Goat Galz Says:

SS and two cents:
Von is the troll and she is killing this blogsite. It’s no mystery the nutbag is getting rid of everyone. Let’s not pussyfoot around any longer. No one on here likes her and this control freak won’t rest until everyone is gone.

Daniel Says:

Although grendel mentioned that Federer usually strugles in Basel an I agree, last year final against Nalbandian was the best I’ve seen him play 2008-2009. Maybe playing there will bring again the best of him.

Kimmi Says:

How did Davydenko pass Roddick in the ranking ? did not see that coming..but I guess with the big win in Shanghai and Roddick consecutive early loses can do that. In the Race Roddick is almost 900 points ahead of davydenko..If he does not lose early again he should get his # 6 back soon. Davydenko is defending a final in YEC.

Congratulation to Soderling for breaking into the top 10 at last. Great effort from him. Now he should fight for YEC birth.

Von Says:

Well, since her serene goatship (goat galz aka brady now posing as a Fed fan) has seen fit to enlighten everyone that I’m the troll to whom grendel refers in his post that’s drenched with histrionics, and I’m the reason grendel has left, I suppose I have no choice but to defend myself once again. I stopped posting here close to two weeks due the harassment from goat galz with the aid of grendel, because I realized another attack was forthcoming from grendel and I wanted to avoid it at all costs.

For some reason known only to grendel and her serene goatship, goat galz (aka brady posing as a Fed fan), my presence on this site offends the two of them, and anything I say is taken out of context. I can’t believe the drama grendel creates whenever he leaves after he becomes blown away from an altercation with another poster, which he cannot handle; the latest being yesterday. I left this site because of the tauntings from the goal galz and grendel close to two weeks ago, and only returned yesterday. I wasn’t amazed that grendel had an altercation with another poster, because whenever he can’t pick on me, he usually finds someone else to pick on — he has to pick on someone or else he’ll burst into flames — a psychological imbalance IMO, that definitely needs to be treated. this man is a walking time bomb.

His MO is usually the same. He picks on something written in a post, dissects every word in his prey’s posts, insults them, gives them a free psych analysis, and then turns the blame on the other poster (transference of guilt). However, he’s very crafty, in his attacks, he always makes it a point to laud some phony praise by telling his victim how wonderful that person is in grendel’s eyes. I’ve been told that I’m smart, very informed, knowledgeable, a formidable woman, and eloquent, after I’m blasted away to smithereens. I suppose those accolades are a sort of peace offering, and I’ve learnt to ignore them because they are worth nothing, but I see them as a crafty action to redeem himself and to fool the gullible ones that he can see good things in his victim. LOL. How many times has he done this in the past to me? At least ten(10)times. I’m not going to give a chronology of what has transpired throughout the 22 months I’ve posted here, but just a bird’s eye view of some of grendel’s comments; the links I’ve posted below, and those are mild as compared to the others I didn’t care to list. However, those links will provide some insight of the others who’ve joined in with grendel.

The regular posters who have posted here during this period I’m sure knows grendel’s MO, because he’s had numerous altercations with many of them, and I’m somewhat amazed that they buy into this stuff. Don’t worry folks, he’ll be back as usual and will again run true to form.



Von Says:

In this one he quit posting, but returned.

(Read the last sentence)

I agree with skeezer, this site needs to be moderated because no one, and I mean no one, should be subjected to the type of abuse I’ve received from the her serene goatship and grendel. There are others who are nasty also, but these two have won the prized trophy. I’m sure there are many who would agree with grendel.

posmatrac Says:

“Duro Says:

i am it, thanks for your answer.”

Duro, nice job, didn’t doubt for a millisecond. Cheers.

Gordo Says:

What an ego some people have – if you are going to quit making comments in here, then do so. Just go. Bye! C’ya. So long! Toodles!

lol at Von for pointing out what a drama queen (sic) Grendel is, and has been over and over again with the “You won’t have Grendel to kick around anymore” exit speech.

Too funny. One less person to not chat about tennis? Good. I won’t miss that.

Davydenko – atta boy. He almost has secured a spot in the final 8 and if he plays a decent Paris he will be a tough opponent come London.

I will be shocked if anyone gets the 1500 points for winning London undefeated, but the year end race for number one ahould still shape up very interestingly. Even more so should Fed somehow not win Basel next week.

skeezerweezer Says:

“Goat Galz Says:”

“Blah blah drama p!ss on this person and that……”

Try and re-read my post please!,

Do you have anything significant to say about the wonderful game of Tennis?

Sorry, my bad, I thought this was a “Tennis Blog”

If you want to rag on people, go to the “Ragging Blog”, I believe its http://www.rag-on-me.com

To Staff of Tennis X:

You guys really know how to get the hits! Keep that “no moderating” policy coming! Geez…

I’m out

Von Says:

skeezer: “Sorry, my bad, I thought this was a “Tennis Blog”

“If you want to rag on people, go to the “Ragging Blog”, I believe its http://www.rag-on-me.com

Good for you skeezer. I’ve asked her many times if she has anything to talk about tennis, but she never has answered, nor has she posted on tennis. Her main focus is to count the number of may posts and spew her venom at me. Unfortunately, there are many who buy into her venom. She talks about how many I drive away from here. I’m glad you’ve stated that you don’t come here due to the type of posts from her kind, who only like to torment/harass others. It’s funny, she only surfaces whenever I post. It’s as though Pavlov’s Bell begins a ringing. LOL. her goatship has radar set for me.

Twocents Says:

Goat Galz,

Why would I pussyfoot anyone on internet? All due respect to your own classification of trolls, I do not see any posters here fall under mine. I only wish I had the eloquency and passions.

Back to Davy. He seems a Fedtard like me: he thanked Fed last year after making TMC final (cuz Fed fan backed him against Murray; and this year even when he won the trophy and Fed’s thousands miles away baby sitting, he mentioned in his presser that he’s glad that he didn’t have to play Fed. I think he’ll get a win over Fed soon. Same for Soderling.

i am it Says:

ATP Players: Sex Before a Match Can Help Win

“Swedish police say two tennis players are suspected of soliciting prostitutes before the Stockholm Open.
“…on Monday…they were detained as they entered a hotel in Stockholm early Sunday with their escorts. He said both players were set to compete in the tournament, which started Monday.
“…the investigation wouldn’t stop anyone from competing in the tournament.
“…punishment, which allows someone suspected of a minor offense to avoid a trial by signing a confession.
“Sweden’s prostitution law is highly unusual because it punishes those who pay for sex but not the prostitutes” (Source: AP).

margot Says:

two cents: sweet olive tea! That’s too much man, here am I heading for a cold, damp. dark British winter…….
grendel: did u read that two of my favourite posters didn’t know what Horlicks is……!! come back, who else can share my jokes?
back to tennis?

jane Says:

i am it – how racy for tennis! I’ll have to look that article up. Also thanks for the tournament line ups you posted earlier; looks like a lot of top players will be playing a warm up prior to the Paris Masters. I had thought Tsonga was going to Basel, but your post clarified that he’s not, and will instead play at Valenica – where the two Andys will also be trying their games. Still a few last rounds to which to look forward this year.

margot – I get *some* of your jokes. :)

i am it Says:

j. did you check out my translation of rafa interview that appeared in SI’s Chinese edition?


jane Says:

I am impressed, i am it. Do you know cantonese or mandarin?

This was one of my favorite parts:

“Rafa: It’d not bother me if they announced, “Let us welcome the world’s 5th-ranked player Rafael Nadal.” I’d feel fortunate as long as they call my name. I did not start playing tennis to hear the host’s announcement. That’s never been significant to me.”

I also found it interesting that he fully intends to pursue a USO title, which acknowledging that it’ll be tough.

Your “square bracketed” injections in the “Tony” parts of the interview were funny. lol.

Glad you drew my attention to that translation.

jane Says:

typos @ 11:11 – which should be “while”, injections should be “interjections” – doh.

Voicemale1 Says:

Thought this one was some insight worth posting. It was a Sampras interview he gave a few days ago in Asia:

Sampras: Federer has more majors left in him

HONG KONG (AP)—Pete Sampras predicts Roger Federer still has a few more Grand Slam titles to win despite his recent loss in the U.S. Open final.

“Roger is going to win some more majors. Maybe he’s not going to be quite as dominant as he once was,” Sampras told a media conference in Hong Kong Tuesday via telephone from Los Angeles. The seven-time Wimbledon champion was promoting his upcoming exhibition match against Andre Agassi in the nearby southern Chinese gambling enclave of Macau on Oct. 25.

Top-ranked Federer lost in five sets to Argentina’s Juan Martin Del Potro in the Sept. 14 U.S. Open final.

“When push comes to shove, I still like Roger at these majors,” Sampras said, adding that Federer may find it hard to motivate himself given his already stellar record.

Federer won his first French Open earlier this year to complete a career Grand Slam, then won Wimbledon to break Sampras’ record of 14 major titles.

Asked if it hurt to see his record broken, Sampras, who watched Federer’s five-set Wimbledon victory over American Andy Roddick from courtside, said it was expected.

“I think we all knew it was going to happen. It was inevitable that he was going to break the record,” the American said. “I was actually happy to be there and witness it.”

Sampras said he also expects Rafael Nadal to linger at the top of the rankings despite his recent struggles with injury.

“He’s going to be around in the top two or three in the world for as long as he wants to be,” he said. “He’s an animal, a great athlete, a great player. He’s going to go through different lulls in his game, but when push comes to shove, you’re always going to see Rafa in the last couple of days of the event.”

i am it Says:

J., i cannot say i know either. well, i understand both a little bit. i know Wu, the language spoken in Shanghai, which is close to Mandarin, and i know Japanese Kanji that bears resemblance with Chinese characters. i cooked all of these together and flavored it with my imagination. the outcome was not that bad.
i am glad you enjoyed my interjections:)
VM1, i think most agree with sampras on this: “Federer has more majors left in him.”
how many? we don’t know.
and we already have seen rafa’s reaching semis and finals, despite injuries, so he is right on this well. for a couple of years, maybe he can go on like this, but for how long? we’ll just have to wait and see.
thanks for the post, VM1.

sar Says:

Jane or I am it,
when do the draws come out for Valencia and Basel?

JoshDragon Says:

I laughed at Andre’s comment about the end of the Fed/Nadal era. I really don’t see how Murray is going to step up and start taking majors from those guys. He’s only been to one grand slam final and that was over a year ago, when he lost in straights to Roger.

Murray, will need to win a major before I’ll believe that he’s the next big thing.

i am it Says:

sar, their websites don’t mention the draw date. since they kick off on Nov. 2, i am guessing toward the end of this month.

Von Says:


“Asked if it hurt to see his record broken, Sampras, who watched Federer’s five-set Wimbledon victory over American Andy Roddick from courtside, said it was expected.

“I think we all knew it was going to happen. It was inevitable that he was going to break the record,” the American said. “I was actually happy to be there and witness it.”


Thanks for posting Pistol Pete’s (my all-time No. 1 fave) interview. I know you watch the Tennis Channel, ergo, have you ever seen Pete’s discussion on TC,(earlier this year) in which he expresses his thoughts about his record being broken? The interview I’ve seen, he was asked a similar question, to which he replied that no one likes to see their record broken. He further elaborated that when he won his 14th slam he figured that was enough, thereby ensuring his record would remain in tact for many years. Therefore, in view of what I heard Pete state previously, as opposed to: “I was actually happy to be there and witness it,” I’m finding it a bit difficult to think he’s happy and/or excited that Federer broke his record.

It appears to me, that Pete actually skirted the direct question and answered it in a round about fashion, by saying he was “happy to be there”, but he did not answer yes or no as to whether he was hurt when the event actually occurred. I’m thinking that Pete has got to be hurt with respect to his record being broken, but he’s not coming out and saying so affirmatively, which goes to ‘reasonable doubt’ in that interview. I view this as somewhat funny that Pete’s playing a diplomat and still leaves the question unanswered. In a court of law, he’d have to answer affirmatively *yes* or *no*, thus eliminating any’reasonable doubt’.

Von Says:

VM1, sorry I misspelt your name.

Veno Says:

A big shout out to Von!!!!!!!!

Congrats to you for Roddick making the YEC!

Even if everyone persecutes you(Grendel, goat galz among those who for no reason attack you) YOU’RE ACES IN MY BOOK!!! And luckily there are enough people who agree with me.

I agree btw about Pete, he chooses his words very carefully these days when discussing these topics but it’s got to hurt him that his record only stood for 7 years.

A true champion like him should be pissed off about it, but at the same time, records are there to be broken and what is he to do than to accept it and move on. They are not mutually exclusive imo.

Von Says:

Agassi joins Roddick and Nadal for a revised Schedule:

“Thu Oct 15, 12:11 pm ET
MACAU (AFP) – Tennis great Andre Agassi on Thursday added his voice to calls for the ATP to revise their schedule, saying it would benefit players and fans.

The issue was thrown into the spotlight this week at the Shanghai Masters with Rafael Nadal and Andy Roddick complaining that men’s players were being worn down by the gruelling demands.

“Roger Federer (fatigue) and Andy Murray (wrist injury) skipped the tournament, while Roddick retired with an injured knee in the second round and US Open champion Juan Martin del Potro hurt his wrist Wednesday and withdrew.”


Tennis players proposition the local ladies of the night in Stockholm:


From the comments below there’s speculation one of the players is alleged to be Gulbis, and I read somewhere else it was speculated Pim Pim was the other alleged prospective customer.LOL

Von Says:

Veno: How are you? And, a shout back to you too. Thanks for the news on Roddick! I’ve only now been able to read the tennis news,(busy work day) but didn’t see Roddick’s, so thanks for pointing that out to me. I’ll be truthful, I somehow get the feeling Andy has grown tired of the YEC tourneys, but they are mandatory if a player qualifies, so I suppose he has to go, regardless….

BTW, did you see the news of the Tennis players in Stockholm? I tried posting a link with comments, from Yahoo sports, but it’s not linking directly.

Catch ya later mon ami, and thanks for the support — it’s appreciated.

Veno Says:

You’re very welcome Vonnie, and I had already read about the Stockholm escapades lol

Veno Says:

P.S. check your inbox ;-O

Veno Says:

I read from Andy’s statement that because it’s now in London and he got so much great support at and after Wimby that he sounded excited to play there.
We’ll see how it goes. It would be a great tourney for him to end the year on a high note. I hope he does well!!!!

fadingis Says:

I kind of agree with the players, come on , every one that has played tennis in their life know that it tiers you a lot ,more on pro level, add to that constant jouneys in not so great conditions( exept some top players with private transport), the adaptation to the time use in the place your staying can take you some days to be 100 percent again and well and 18 tournaments (at least) thats 26 weeks only of tournaments, plus training , its too much.

Von Says:

I have, in the past, been very critical of the players’ complaints with respect to their schedules, until I had to do a six month stint of travelling this year. I experienced waking up in several different cities and having to cope with time zone changes, eating schedules, language barriers, living out of a suitcase, and not living like a normal person who’s able to spend quality time with their family. After that experience, I realized it was not easy for the players who have to cope with these changes year in and out, which can become extremely boring IMO, not to mention the jet lag and the disoriented feeling one gets from being in a foreign country. Additionally, the players have to still keep up their fitness training routines.

In view of the foregoing, I’m now actually very sympathetic towards the players’ plight and they have my empathy as well.

i am it Says:

Joachim Johansson: “late last night Monaco found out that he had been accused in the Argentine press that he was the guilty player who bought sex during the weekend even though he was not involved. He will probably have a hard days before the match on Wednesday. I’ll try to take advantage of it early in the match …”

when the press asked, what he thought about what Gulbis has done, he said, “No comment.”

this is the first authentic news from JJ’s blog.


i am it Says:

Sex scandal update.
the following has been circulated in various blogs’ comment sections.

It seems, via Men’s Tennis Forums and HC Foo, that Pim-Pim originally wrote something on his blog like “Gulbis already acknowledged (the charge)” but this has since been changed. If any of you end up playing on the ATP tour, you now know who NOT to tell your deepest darkest secrets to!

Matt Cronin at tennisreporters.net offers this perspective: “According to some rich tennis lore, they aren’t the first players to engage in such an activity in Stockholm.”

Read more: http://www.gototennisblog.com/2009/10/20/tennis-gossip-was-ernests-gulbis-naughty-in-stockholm/#ixzz0UXBtXqVd

sar Says:

One of them is Baggy, I heard.

i am it Says:

= hello Jane, talk to you LATER.
that’s my anglicized Mandarin.

thanks, sar. shocking ! baggy has a beautiful girl friend. and gulbis is a nice looking, rich, and talented. now i can see what these kids have been doing, and it makes sense why these kids are where they are. imagine the embarrassment in the locker room. their career is over.

contador Says:

no, not baggy, really? i read somewhere last night that it was gulbis’ friend and a junior player/hitting partner, latvian david k, something or other….a guy not in the stockholm tournament.

sure hope it’s not marcos.

and hope gulbis career is not over but…he did not seem too into his career anyway. maybe he’ll make an effort after this, or maybe he disappears. what a shame….ernie…

Voicemale1 Says:

I am it:

I’m not convinced these guys have a career ending situation with soliciting sex – I mean, if anything it’s likely to be a career boost if history is any guide. Look at what happened to Hugh Grant!! And as for the ATP Locker Room – my guess is that these two might be chided only slightly, but they’re likely to get advice on how to do such things more discreetly. You think these two guys are the ONLY ones to EVER engage in sexual pecaadilloes on the tour? They might get a lot of advice to stick with the Groupies who track tennis stars all over the globe – they give away for free what they attempted to pay for :)

funches Says:

Apropos of nothing, here’s an interesting story on the problem Roddick and Blake share even though their careers went in different directions this year.

Von, you probably will think it’s too harsh on Roddick, but it seems pretty fair to me.


MMT Says:

The root of this problem is the money – the ATP makes money from each tournament on the schedule, and as such has a vested interest in adding tournaments, even overlapping tournaments. Those tournaments won’t be around very long if they don’t have the featured players on tour, because won’t they get the sponsorship or the gate recepits they need to subsist. Hence, players are encouraged by the ranking system, to play as often as they can.

Of course is the quality of these smaller tournaments diminishes, through withdrawals and less than engaging matchups, and eventually as new money arrives on the scene with the promise of better returns, they get dropped and the cycle revolves again.

So what’s the solution – the ATP needs to look at the schedule like professional sports leagues look at franchise expansion and set a very high bar for expansion.

I agree that players are talking out of both side of their mouths when they play smaller events and/or exhibitions, then complain about the calendar, BUT the real problem is what would happen if everyone played a schedule like Federer’s?

You’d get a lot of tournaments without top players, and a very shallow pool of quality in all but the required events. If the quality is to stay high, then all the top players have to play the same number of events, and the same events. Lower ranked players could (and do) have a satellite circuit that if they succeed, puts them in a position to either place directly or qualify for these featured events that all the top players play.

It means a little less money up front for everyone, but the interest, sponsorship would go up as the quality of events does, most importantly, players player longer, with fewer injuries and withdrawals.

There is, of cours, a historical problem with this approach – for years, as i am it and I discussed on another thread, tennis professionals have fought to be independent contractors free to play when they want, and where they want, as often as they want. This has the unintended consequence today of making the schedule completely unmanageable and rife for some players to basically burn themselves out.

There will always be this risk becuase even with a standard schedule of events, nothing would prevent players from playing exhitibitions and such, but a standardized schedule would other far reaching benefits.

MMT Says:

That post refers to the scheduling issue “TOUR SEASON TOO LONG (EXCLUDING LUCRATIVE EXHIBITIONS, OF COURSE!) — Amidst all the bitching on the ATP circuit about the season being too long, Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal have already committed to play the money-raining Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates, exhibition event at the beginning of January 2010.”

MMT Says:

“funches Says:
Apropos of nothing, here’s an interesting story on the problem Roddick and Blake share even though their careers went in different directions this year.

Von, you probably will think it’s too harsh on Roddick, but it seems pretty fair to me.


You know, I thought James Blake had a new coach, but I wasn’t sure, because some time ago, he had said he would never part with his original coach. I watched his second match with Nadal (in China) and I have to say I was very pleased with what I saw from him. He’s got a lot of tennis left in him if he can play the way he played against Nadal.

Tactically it was a very good game plan – press Nadal the entire match, and force him to deal with the prospect of passing James 50 times if he wanted to beat him. Sounds like a losing prospect if you assume that Nadal can hit passing shots at will, but he cannot – nobody can.

The truth is that coming to net and shortening the points has the added effect of not just pressing Nadal, but also relieving some pressure from Blake of having to come up with winners in place of the points won at net. That pressure boxed him into a strategy of outhitting his opponents all the time, and one that caused him to basically play himself right out of a lot of matches he should win.

So tacticaly this guy is right on point with what he’s trying to get Blake to do, and now the question is whether at 29 years old, Blake has the committment to develop technically to the point where he gives himself a better chance to win with that strategy.

I wish him the best.

sar Says:

Not sure if it is Baggy but I saw it on another blog. Could be just a rumor or smear.

Vulcan Says:

“I saw it on another blog”

Sounds like a highly reliable source of information.

i am it Says:

for me, whether they had a tennis career per se has been questionable for some time. yet there was a glimmer of hope that they would rise some day. If they become top 10 players, even consistent top 20, i’d be surprised. that’s what i meant by career. my point was i gave up on these kids completely.

i am sure many would go to red light areas and brothels where it is legal or do it without being caught. i was troubled by the legal aspect than moral aspect, though latter also affects you when you do something wrong and when you are penalized and when it becomes public embarrassment. are these things going to help a player who’s been going through a free fall in his “career”?

yeah, i was thinking the same about groupies, “They might get a lot of advice to stick with the Groupies who track tennis stars all over the globe – they give away for free what they attempted to pay for :)”
maybe time plays a greater role in such stupid decisions. with groupies, you may have to spend more time, and it becomes more public. but again, tennis is not a rock concert where there would be a line of groupies waiting for backdoor pass and you get to do quickies, but still a tennis player should be able to get hold of a couple if he invests time, a couple of hours or whole day. that’s not convenient.
the point is not about how many ways you can find random one-night stand women. it’s about how many ways you can avoid them when you are participating in a tournament. or, like many do, get married or a girl friend if you are that desperate and cannot play without sex.

Von Says:


Thanks for that link on Roddick and Blake — I appreciate your taking the time to do so.

No, I don’t think the article is too harsh at all — it just touches a tip of the iceberg, with respect to Roddick’s match play and his deficiencies. Roddick’s return game has always been his Achilles heel and has cost him several matches that he should have won, or those he won, he could have won more easily. Blah has also mentioned this problem a few times with respect to his return game. He should have won that DC match vs. DelPotro after Wimby, but his return game was the problem — he had match points. He also should have won the SF Montreal match vs. Del Potro, his return game, again was a problem when he broke and did not hold. 3rd round USO match vs. Isner, again, his return game was useless. I don’t know what he was doing in that match, but he certainly wasn’t thinking, as he seemed to be in a haze. Those are just the recent losses I’m citing after the Wimby final. I won’t even touch the Wimby final where he had so many chances and didn’t capitalize on them. In sum, even though his BH has improved and he’s been using his FH with more zing, when he wants to, his return game still stinks. Roddick has had tons of opportunities to break his opponents in matches over the years, but has failed to convert = poor return game. His conversion percentage in opportunites to break is extremely low. He can do it, if, and when, he wants to, as he’s done countless times, but for some reason, known only to Andy, he’s somewhat hesitant to go for it at those times that he holds back, especially when it’s not his service game and on a second serve. Why? Is the $50 million dollar question.

I think if Andy wants to remain in the top 10 he’ll need to adhere to the changes he’s made, (aggressive playing style)and stick with them, not regress. However, from what I’ve been seeing after Wimby (I always see things from a psych point of view) his heart seems to have gone out of his game, and when that happens, so too, any new learned behaviours are forgotten. In Roddick’s case, his aggressive game has again vanished,(new learned behaviour) and he’s back to playing 15 feet behind the baseline (old learned behaviour). It’s a very normal, but detrimental mind-set people regress into when they have suffered heart-breaking losses. The Wimby loss is still haunting him, and as a result, he’s now doing what was once comfortable to him as if by rote, playing 15 feet behind the baseline (old behaviour). That’s the reason he hurt his knee trying to chase down the balls in his match vs. Wawrinka, as Wawrinka was yanking him from side to side, which shouldn’t have been a problem if Andy was playing closer to the baseline, but is one, when he’s 15 feet behind. OUCH.

Voicemale1 had touched upon the Wimby loss affecting Roddick to the point that he seems to be somewhat stuck in his mind-set after that disappointment. Well he was right, and I echo those sentiments, due to what I see manifested post Wimby up to the present time. Roddick is playing with very little heart = apathy, which is normal, as I mentioned above, but enough already. He needs to snap out of it and stop coddling himself. Seek help from a sports psychologist, but for the love of God do something, don’t just wallow in self-pity and regress to the point of detriment.

The problem with some of these guys is their attainment of success at an early age which has spoilt them, as they think everything in life should come easily, and they can coast along without having to put in too much hard work thereafter. They become soft, to the point of indulging in self-pity when disappointment strikes. Albeit, in Roddick’s case, he has woken up and smelt the coffee, and is putting in the hard work. However, I think he has a tendency to regress back to old habits when things aren’t clicking, and this will be his unravelling/undoing if he continues along this vein of thought. I’m not happy with respect to what I’m seeing from him presently, but I’m just a fan, and he could care less about my feelings.

Below is a link from Bleacher report, which discusses Roddick’s coaching woes. I hope they are wrong, because I’d hate to see Andy dump Stefanki.


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