Federer Advances, Berdych Blasts Murray at French Open; Nadal on Deck
by Sean Randall | May 30th, 2010, 6:07 pm
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Roger Federer showed little signs of worry today in a straight set 6-3, 7-6(2), 6-2 win over his best bud from Switzerland Stan Wawrinka to advance to the quarterfinals of the French Open.

“Obviously we’ve spent a lot of time as well away from, you know, just the tennis courts and the practice courts, so it makes it a bit harder,” Federer said of Wawrinka. “But at the same time, you know, basically I think about playing him every point I play, but then I’m able still to play good tennis and put in a good performance. I’m happy that I’m able to, you know, not forget who he is, but at the same time really able to play great tennis.”

The win puts Federer into his 24th straight Grand Slam quarterfinal and just nine sets from a repeat French Open title. But that nine set march begins on Tuesday against Robin Soderling in a rematch of the 2009 Roland Garros final.

Said Federer, “I’ve played with Soderling several times during Grand Slam matches. We usually meet one another at these levels in the tournaments. He’s got a better ranking this year, so I don’t meet him very quickly in the tournament. He’s going to be fitter than in the past when I played him during the third round or second round, I can’t remember. But I’m really looking forward to this match, because he hits very strongly, forehand, backhand, and serves. So it’s going to be up to me to do my best to vary the game. This is what I like. This is why I have a good record against him.”

Soderling outlclassed Marin Cilic 6-4, 6-4, 6-2 to win his 10th match in his last 11 tries in Paris.

“We played so many times over so many years now, so it’s tough to remember,” said Soderling who has conveniently forgotten his 0-12 mark against the Swiss. “But I remember a few times I played against him when I came pretty close, especially one in Halle a couple years ago when I served and returned really well. I think that’s what you have to do against him, because of course he’s the best player in the world. But even against him you will always get a few chances. Then you have to take them, because he won’t give you any second opportunities. You really have to play well in the important points, which he does so well, and that’s why he’s so good.”

In the other top half quarter it will be Tomas Berdych against Mikhail Youhzny. In a rain-interrupted affair Berdych was just too strong, too powerful for Murray on the slow Suzanne Lenglen courts. Berdych won easily 6-4, 7-5, 6-3 and he’s now just three sets from his first career Grand Slam semifinals.

Meanwhile, Youhzny had the easiest day among the guys playing just one set before JW Tsonga retired with a bad back after dropping the first set 6-2.

So again, that’s Federer v. Soderling and Berdych v. Youzhny in the quarterfinals on Tuesday.

As for tomorrow, it’s Rafael Nadal v. Thomaz Bellucci, Fernando Verdasco v. Nicolas Almagro, Robby Ginepri v. Novak Djokovic and Teimuraz Gabashvili v. Jurgen Melzer.

In the match few care about, I think Gabashvili, who hasn’t come close to dropping a single set in six matches at Roland Garros this year (including qualifying), gets over on Melzer. Whatever Jurgen’s smoking, drinking or sniffing runs out on Monday. Again, heavy, damp conditions favor guys who can hit through the court. Gabashvili is one of them.

Those conditions also favor Djokovic who should beat Ginepri. He should do it in straight sets but the Serb will probably have his usual lapse and win in four.

Verdasco and Almagro is a real tough one to call. Nando has been among the elite this clay season but he seemed to have hit his peak a month ago. Almagro is having his best clay season but has struggled against Fernando never having beaten the lefty. That is until… Well, okay, I’m sticking with Verdasco here. I honestly don’t trust either player but as much as I want to pick Almagro I have to go with Verdasco. He’s come to far to let down at this stage.

As for the main event, Nadal will get the win (his 200th on clay) but to steal a line from Lee Corso, it will be “closer than the experts think”. Nadal lost in this same very round last year and he will not want to incur a similar fate this time around. But Bellucci can bring the serve, bring the forehand and if he can withstand the backhand-to-backand exchanges I give him a real shot. But I think Nadal prevails in the end.

Looking at the women’s draw, very surprising loss by Venus Williams to Nadia Petrova. Stunning really. And tough loss for Maria Sharapova who had her foot on Justine Henin’s neck at 2-0 with break points in the third. Credit to Henin who toughed out another win.

Tomorrow it’s Serena v. Shahar Peer, Henin v. Sam Stosur, Jarmila Groth v. Yaroslava Shvedova and Jelena Jankovic v. Daniela Hantuchova.


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344 Comments for Federer Advances, Berdych Blasts Murray at French Open; Nadal on Deck

jane Says:

I am hoping for a Henin vs JJ final but it probably won’t happen.


Kimmi Says:

jane – let me move my post here, as this thread is new.

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jane, what occasion would berdych be overwhelmed abou? he was playing for his first qtr final today (a big occassion too, no?) but he played like a champion.

I think since american hardcourts this year berdy is a different player. he was known for choking most of the time when he meets federer but he manage to beat him..saving a match point on the way.

I agree that soda v fed might be a hard fought match but soda has never really been in the position to win over fed..he is always playing fed from behind, winning a tie breaker here or there but not threatening..while berdych has done so. he had fed on the ropes in AO 09 then miraculously gave away the match.

thats why i am thinking he is more dangerous now..the choking looks to be way past him..if he is in a position to win he will go for it.


Kimmi Says:

sean, I never knew almagro has never beaten hotsauce..thats very surprising. so, almagro could never beat even an old, self disctructing verdasco..too bad

just checking their h2h..they have played only on clay. last was RG 2009. And fortunately tomorrow is clay..

Hope hotsauce continues the streak..vamos!


Kimmi Says:

“But I think Nadal prevails”

hahah, funny that you “think” nadal will prevail sean..there is no thinking about it. nadal will win in easy straight set. :)

Congrats for getting all your preductions correct yesterday sean. Did you also say Youzhny will win? Well he did too.


Polo Says:

Almagro is a very good player who always finds a way to lose. I think Verdasco is also mentally shaky but only to those who are expected to beat him. Therefore, I will pick Verdasco to win.

Novak is a lucky guy to get Ginepri who is about to reach his midnight hour.

Gabashvilli vs Melzer: I will be happy for whoever wins.

Nadal vs Belluci: The only thing worth figuring out about this match is trying to guess the score.


Sean Randall Says:

Kimmi, if the bad weather continues you may be in for a surprise on Monday!

I also “think” a Spaniard will win tomorrow and a lefty!


andrea Says:

hmmm. i remember the press getting into another tizzy over the fact that roger did not mention murray’s name when he was asked who could win rolland garros this year.

haven’t seen the match yet, but seeing as how murray barely made it out of the first round (with help from the imploding gasquet), is this any surprise?


Kimmi Says:

gabashvili got his own page at RG website. “getting to know gabashvili”..well, if he hit as many winners as he hit against roddick..he could have a shot at winning this tournament.


jane Says:

Sean, are you implicitly predicting a Rafa upset?

Kimmi, I answered you on the other thread.


ines Says:

Murray has the toughest draw, it´s very impressive
the diference between them,I would like to see RN.
with such a draw….


Fot Says:

ines, even if Murray had played an ‘easier’ draw, the way he is playing – I still don’t think he would have been a ‘threat’ to the title. Just my opinion. But you have to play and win against whomever is on the other side. Murray didn’t get it done. He has been ranked as high as #2 in the world and still haven’t won a grand slam. I think the longer or more slams he plays without one, the harder it may become for him. Maybe more ‘mental’ than anything else.

I remember at the AO a lot of folks said it was “Murray’s time”. The press were there in droves to get a story about Murray’s first slam win. But we see that it didn’t go that way and personally, I think Murray has regressed a little backwards since that defeat rather than make a step forward. (Just my opinion).

At any rate..On Nadal’s side of the draw, I see no one to possibly give him any problems. Djokovic hasn’t been impressive (sorry Jane); and whenever Nadal meats a Spaniard, he owns them. I really don’t expect Nadal to drop a set until the final.

On Roger’s side, even though Murray lost, the remaining players are really good and they are ‘in-fornm’ right now. Soderling will be hard and if (no, I’m going to say ‘when’) he gets by that match, Berdych may be waiting in the wings, and Berdych beat Roger the last time they played. So Roger’s ‘road’ back to the final is harder (to me) than Nadal’s will be. But like I said – you have to beat whomever is on the other side! With that saying…

GO ROGER!!!!


Kimmi Says:

Thanks jane.


Kimmi Says:

some nice quotes from berdych interview that i think are funny.

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“My coach told me when the match was suspended that Andy looked like he didn’t want to play.

“Maybe that’s his style, you know, that he wants to like make the opponent sleep or whatever.

“Whatever it is it didn’t work today for him, and I’m happy for it. I deserved to win.”

“I would say that he didn’t give me too much pressure in the rallies, I was really comfortable,”

“I mean, almost with all the points, all the shots, I had plenty of space to do everything that I wanted. That’s why I won in straight sets.”


jane Says:

Kimmi, well, if nothing else, Berdych sounds very confident!

Fot, no offense taken. I don’t think Djoko looks his best yet either, though I am happy to see him through to the second week, for however long it lasts.


Kimmi Says:

venus was in a very good form, i did not expect her to lose so easily to petrova. 6-4 6-3 is a bad loss.

Sean, remember you predicted venus to reach the final..I think you should stay with predicting round by round, you do better that way. but predicting the finalist of the tournament even before it starts..nah!


jane Says:

Just had a look at the men’s draw: Berdych hasn’t lost a set yet, while beating Isner and Murray along the way. Soderling has beaten Montanes and now Cilic, but he did drop a set to Montanes.


jane Says:

And how strange to see all these big, flat hitters at the tail end of the French Open – Youz, Berdych, Soderling, you’d expect to see these players at this point on grass maybe, but here?


Kimmi Says:

jane, thats probably why berdy sounds very confident. he might win youzhny in straight too..that will be something! Not losing a set till the semi WOW!


skeezerweezer Says:

Sean,

“I also “think” a Spaniard will win tomorrow and a lefty!”

Haha :)


Andrew Miller Says:

Surprised by Murray loss, and even more by Berdych’s win! Sheesh, maybe he really is on the verge of doing something. Was hoping Murray would make Berdych play like, well, Berdych normally plays.

A Berdych win over Federer on the dirt is not impossible in the QF – he was 2-0 in sets at the Australian in 2009, so it’s not out of question that he has a shot at beating Federer here.

Gasp, Gabashvili could be a semifinalist, but I like Djokovic’s odds from her to the semis.

I like Nadal through to the semis. He should be able to roll his next two matches. Are we looking at a Nadal-Djokovic semifinal? I hope so.

So we could be seeing Federer-Nadal, or some matchup that no one could predict for next Sunday! I see Federer winning it (yep, staying with my original pick – his draw has gotten SO MUCH easier in the initial rounds; it had looked like a nightmare, but there’s no one he should be scared of at this point).

For peer-serena, I see Serena over Shahar Peer.

Jankovic should make the semis but it could be Hantuchova or one of the other two!

Now that Kirilenko lost (sadly) I think Woz has the nod for the semis. I thought Flavia played her heart out, must be disappointing.

I like Dementieva coming through against Petrova; I see the winner of that match in the finals.

My pick remains Serena for the tournament.


funches Says:

Why would it be shocking that Venus lost to Petrova?

Petrova’s been to the semifinals twice since the last time Venus got that far. For all the talk about how well Venus was playing recently, she lost 6-0, 6-1 to Jankovic in one of the lead-up tournaments. It’s almost impossible to lose that badly to Jankovic.

Petrova’s just a better player than Venus on clay. And if she had lost Rezai yesterday, Rezai would have beaten Venus again.


Andrew Miller Says:

(Plus, Serena’s memory is long, she will definitely want to beat Henin on the dirt).


Andrew Miller Says:

funches is right, Rezai would have beat Venus.


Kimmi Says:

funches – petrova never lost to venus before so i thought at least it will be a hard fought match.

but you are right, these bad loses are not surprising for venus anymore. The JJ loss you mentioned and clijsters beat her really bad in the final of miami.

very unpredictable but she is number 2 in the world right now.


Kimmi Says:

should be the other way round “venus never lost to petrova before”


funches Says:

Two of their matches were on grass, another one was in 2002 when Petrova was ranked No. 39 and in the fourth meeting Venus won 6-4 in the third set on hard courts.

You can’t take head-to-head records at face value. Petrova’s best surface is clay, and Venus’s worst surface is clay.


Ezorra Says:

The problem with players like Maria (Sharapova), Ana and Dinara (urghhh!!!) is that they play a very risky style of tennis which is very entertaining and beautiful if they’re on but will cause pain in the eyes if they are off. They’re also prone to unforced errors and double faults too. If they can counter those two problems which are mainly caused by the mental factor, I believe they can be a better player in the future.


Michael Says:

With the way Soderling is playing, I think he has a very good chance against Federer this time around. Although Federer has not lost a set till date in this tournament, yet he is not looking at his very best. Ofcourse, the match against Federer will be a different kettle of fish altogether as the Master will look for every means to unsettle Soderling’s power and timing and Federer is always known for it. That is why he has such a good H2H against such hard hitting guys. Power and rythm are the bread and butter for Soderling and if that is lost, he will lose in straights. But the way he is playing till now in this tournament compels me to go for him as the favourite against Federer. I might be wrong too as Federer always has a surprise in his sleeves, yet for me in that mouth watering match Soderling will be favourite.


Michael Says:

If anyone can beat Nadal at the French, it can only be Soderling. I do not think even Federer will be able to do it considering that Nadal owns him and is in his head. In terms of sheer brilliance and artistry on the court, Nadal can never match Federer. But he has this grit and determination to upset Federer everytime they play as Federer is just not able to convert the innumerable break points he has against him and makes silly errors at crucial points. If it is a Soderling Vs Nadal final, it would be more enterprising and thrilling than the Federer vs Nadal final simply because just last year at the fourth round, Soderling did the invincible that was thought impossible to achieve and that surely will be in Nadal’s head when he plays against Soderling. Nadal Vs Soderling final – That would be one helluva of a match. Wish that happens.


Michael Says:

Sorry for Murray. But honestly I never expected him to reach this stage at the French and to make matters worse for him, it was Thomas Berdych. Murray is never known for his clay court prowess and was just biding his time. But what should be worrying for the Scott fans is the way he lost not even putting a stiff resistance. I would have been happy if he had atleast taken a set against Berdych. But that was not to be.


Fot Says:

Michael, I hope you are wrong in your predictions! lol! I remember at the AO when Gonzo was ‘on fire’ and Roger cooled him off; last year Robin was ‘on fire’ getting to the final and Roger cooled him off (of course both of those were in finals and this is a little different)…but Roger is 12-0 for a reason so I hope Roger doesn’t ‘forget’ what he did to get those 12 wins in the past and continue doing it here.

It is weird that a lot of ‘flat’ hard hitters are still alive on the men’s side. I guess with the conditions of the court being slow (in the rain, wind, etc.), it takes a hard-hitter to get the balls through the court and they are the last ones standing! I’m just glad Roger is one of them. We need at least 1 more victory to guarantee that #1 week record! Let’s go Roger, Let’s go!!!!!


margot Says:

jane, kimmi: after the first set I stopped watching, Andy just wasn’t gonna win and was IMHO playing really sloppy tennis, he just gave his serve away in the first set. Conditions, knee, fatigue who knows? I really was hoping for a long rain delay and a fresh start today!
Also stopped being able to access this site, dunno why as I see madmax was able to and she is in UK. So could not even share my dismay!
FOT@7.36: I agree with you, I think Andy has gone backwards. Oh dear the Corretja curse, thanks Polo, u made me laugh.
Anyway, onwards and upwards, fingers crossed for Djko today and let’s see if anyone can get a set off Rafa.


Skeezerweezer Says:

Actually Rafa has shown me zero with his “cakeawalk” draw. As the tourney has progressed, however, I do expect Fed or Soda pop to also have a very good chance against Rafa. Soda is hitting those big flat FH’s, which Rafa no likey. And who knows what “Nole” is going to show up. Still, Rafa should win hands down, after all, he is the king*, of clay

* first after Borg


Michael Says:

Fot, When I say that Robin Soderling will be the favourite against Federer, it is not that I am enamoured of it. I make that prediction based upon the current form of players. To me, Federer is certainly not looking at his very best. Wawarinka was totally off colour in that match against Federer. But despite that, he was up a break in the second set only to flounder as expected. However, if you had chanced to witness the Soderling Vs Cilic match both were hitting the ball as though they hate the sight of it and needless to mention you know how Soderling made Cilic clueless eventhough he did not play a bad match. Every day is different in Tennis, but I sense that Soderling likes the French Open surface much better than even the indoors where he is presumably at his best. You mentioned about Federer’s incredible run at the Slams and his 24th straight semi-final. It would be good even if that streak continued, but finally everything will boil down to the way Federer plays. If he is not at his best, Soderling will just murder him on the Court.


Michael Says:

Skeezerweezer, Yes it certainly is a very easy draw for Rafa. But I doubt if anybody can stop him in this tournament. If there is some one to do it, I would root for Soderling. If it is any other opponent, Nadal will fancy his chances a bit more even against the “GREATEST FEDERER”.


sheila Says:

soderling is looking really really good. i hope federer can bring his a game and @ least hold on to the #1 ranking. if he holds on to the #1 ranking til 6/6 doesnt that tie him w/sampras’ 286 wks @ #1? also, i watched both tennis channel coverage & nbc coverage & they covered a few games of soderling vs cilic and maybe a set & 1/2 of federer vs wawrinka match. nbc repeated the sharapova vs henin match (which was great) but no coverage of murray vs berdych. very surprised & disappointed. my fantasy: federer gets thru to finals & beats nadal. that would make my day(but alas its a fantasy). i hope fed can get thru soderling.


margot Says:

skeezer: r u American insomniac or European early bird?


kit Says:

sheila, it’s my fantasy too. for federer to beat nadal in the finals, and hoping that it will happen. it will be tough for him to come thru over soderling, but he will, and continue he’s impressive semi final streak. nadal is great on clay, but i’m not that convinced he is unbeatable.


Michael Says:

Now Federer beating Nadal in Paris has become some kind of a fantasy story. This is definitely not a good advertisement for Federer who is heralded by many as the Greatest that has graced this sport. The toughest part to accept is the fact that Federer has never taken Nadal even to five sets at the French Open, forget about his winning. If a Soderling can beat Nadal in four, why can’t the GOAT stretch Nadal to even five at the premier Paris Open ? That is some kind of a real puzzle. What is clear is that Federer has Nadal in his mind and that is the reason for his stumbling too often to being comfortable. Despite all the greatness about Federer, the one black mark (and that too very dark) in his illustrious career is his meek submission to Nadal.


Izzy Says:

How is it an easy draw for Rafa?
All the best clay courters are on his side!!


Thomas Says:

Did anybody see Stan’s triple-smash of his racket at the end of the 2nd? Surprising that he got that angry. Shows how badly he wanted to win though.
Also, Fed pulled out another trick : the fake drop shop. The first time he did it Stan fell down trying to run for what he thought was a drop shot but Fed hit it deep. He did it later too. Good disguise as he acts like he’s going to hit a drop and at the last minute, punches it deep. It could be a good tactic to use against Nadal in the final :P Fed comes up with all the coolest shots. That’s why he’s the maestro.


wolfgang Says:

yes it would be great SHEILA if Federer would beat Nadal in the final…but he needs to get by a really inform Soderling, who has more confidence this year..
Micheal…perhaps that dark spot in Federer career can be changed if Nadal and fed meet..lets hope it goes 5 sets for the Tennis world to enjoy


nadline Says:

Skeezerweezer Says:

Actually Rafa has shown me zero with his “cakeawalk” draw.

So what has Federer proved to you with his ‘tough’ encounters with Luczak, Falla, Reister and Wawrinka??????????


wolfgang Says:

Micheal at 1:32am

I really enjoyed your comment…I think you hit it right on the money with Nadal h2h with fed…
“silly errors at crucial points”..THIS IS SO TRUE!
That is why fed doesn’t beat Nadal he does that all to often…even in Madrid 2 weeks ago in the 2nd set he was up 5-2 in the tie breaker and started hitting it into the net for no reason, lost the set when he had many break points.
Although I am a huge fan of fed, I understand your assement of fed’s play…but even so I hope he beats Sod and makes it to the final again!!


wolfgang Says:

Nadline YOU are correct..its been a cakewalk for both Nadal and Fed..Soderling is the first difficult match for Fed..I think..Nadals first hard match will be not the next one but the semi’s


Naderer Says:

It’s simple….. In grand slams we all know who will be in the Finals and the question is who’ll be his oponent…


Michael Says:

Thank you Wolfgang. The H2H between Federer and Nadal is completely lop sided 14-7. Ofcourse there is some truth that out of Nadal’s 14 wins, 10 have come for Clay Courts. Yet, that should not be an excuse. I also find some strength in the argument that Federer is paying for his consistency unlike Sampras, who didn’t enjoy a good clay court record. A win with three consecutive French Open finals and a semi-final is not a small achievement by any means. But all the losses he faced came at the hand of just one player and ie. Nadal. Probably, if Nadal wasn’t around, Federer’s grand slam record would have become even more envious. Despite all these, I still feel that Federer just gives up the match against Nadal even before it has begun. When Nadal is not playing at his best, Federer’s level too falls to even it or it is the other way around when Nadal is blowing all trumpets and on a roller coaster ride with Federer despite his best shot not being able to match it. That sums up the Nadal Vs Federer phenomenon. Probably Federer is not sensing the discomfiture he places upon his fans who are not able to counter the charge of his goofing up against Nadal. In the Australian Open 2009, he should have easily won in four sets, but yet gifted the match in the fifth. Similarly in the Wimbledon final 2008, he should have exploited the advantage of his serving first in the decider and yet he failed to exploit it. Against any other player he would certainly have come up trumps given the situation, but not against Nadal. All these only goes to prove that against Nadal, Federer is not applying his head. I only hope for the sake of his fans, he changes his defeatist attitude when he plays against Nadal.


OllyK Says:

Nole was struggling but took the 1st set..it’s unbeliveable that volleys were his best shots till now.


nadline Says:

wolfgang Says:

Micheal at 1:32am

I really enjoyed your comment…I think you hit it right on the money with Nadal h2h with fed…
“silly errors at crucial points”..THIS IS SO TRUE!

How can 6.1 6.3 6.0 be called silly errors at the wrong time, also making silly errors at the wrong time in 14 out of 21 matches does NOT stack up.


Michael Says:

Nadline, The scoreline you reproduced was in the French Open 2008 when Nadal just pulverised Federer. There is no excuse to that complete white wash. He lost in a convincing fashion. Yet, what I was stressing essentially was the fact that when he is up against Nadal, Federer loses his cool head and his own mind defeats his body. The H2H says it all 14-7 totally lopsided in favour of Nadal which should be discomfiting for all Federer fans. But yet in that 14 defeats, there were some close matches with Nadal, where I thought Federer should have won, particularly the Australian Open 2009, Rome Masters (which went to five sets and where Nadal came from behind in the fifth at 4-1 with Federer two breaks up) and the Miami hard court duel which too went to five sets, a match Federer should have won given the momentum in his favour. All these matches, Federer could have won which could have made the H2H more respectable. But unfortunately for him and his fans, he lost and that is where I think the faultline lies. Federer loses the match even before he plays against Nadal. He is not playing Nadal, he is playing his ghost. That Nadal is in his head is quite given. However, simply with this H2H in Nadal’s favour, you cannot classify him as the greatest simply because the H2H between players doesn’t make sense when you look at it in toto.


Michael Says:

Why I say that the H2H doesn’t make sense is this. Let us see if you can make something out of this. Take for instance, Federer H2H against some of the players
Vs Soderling 12-0
Vs Davydenko 14-2
Vs Roddick


Kimmi Says:

margot, very sorry for murray loss..uuurgh, was bad in the end, i stopped watching most of the match too. but overall we saw some great tennis from him..hope plays better on grass

gabashvili had a setpoint but lost it..melzer first set in the bag.

ginepri up the ante in the second..oh nooo djoko 2 breaks down


Kimmi Says:

ginepri 6-2 set

djoko needs to wake up quickly, ginepri is playing well


OllyK Says:

Yes, Kimmi, he MUST wake up! Ginepri is playing better than him from the beginning! :/ Come on, Nole!!!


Michael Says:

Why I say that the H2H doesn’t make sense is due to this. Let us see if you can make something out of this. Take for instance, Federer H2H against some of the players
Vs Soderling 12-0
Vs Davydenko 13-2
Vs Roddick 19-2
Vs Del Potro 7-2

Now what is Nadal record against these players
Vs Soderling 3-2
Vs Davydenko 6-7
Vs Roddick 6-3
Vs Del Potro 3-2

Does this mean that Federer is 12 times as good as Soderling compared to Nadal who is only a shade better or is that Federer is 11 times as good as Davydenko whereas Nadal is a shade worse or is that Federer is 17 times as good as Roddick whereas Nadal is only 3 times better. The argument goes like this which makes the H2H completely meaningless. It is just a bad match up. Despite this, Federer should still strive to improve his H2H against Nadal to a more respectable level.


Kimmi Says:

ginepri is making djoko play..djoko has to play good points to win points

great scrambling from djoko to give himself break point and an error from ginepri to break


OllyK Says:

Ok, he heard us…Nole breaks! Now, just hold your serve, pls!


Von Says:

C’MON ROBBIE!!


Kimmi Says:

gabashvili up a break in the second


wolfgang Says:

nadline—

“How can 6.1 6.3 6.0 be called silly errors at the wrong time, also making silly errors at the wrong time in 14 out of 21 matches does NOT stack up.”

Hey I admit he got smoked that day..but I mean often in the close games..it seems his silly errors do him in..alot of there matches were quite close if you check them out…I hope he doesn’t get smoked this time around…Nadline did you watch the Nadal/Fed final at Madrid 2 weeks ago..if you did you would agree with what I am saying


OllyK Says:

Double break! Much better performance from Nole in the 3rd set. Or, should I say…worse from Ginepri?!


Kimmi Says:

now its all djokovic


wolfgang Says:

Michael
Yes I have to admit since Fed is so consistent we expect him to smoke the guys in the lower tiers like he used to do in 2004-2006…
But I must admit his losing to Delpotro at the Aussie Open in 2009 was very frustrating since he had that game in the bag and then self-destructed which is rarely seen by him…at least he is playing pretty good right now..I hope he gets to the final..if he can take Nadal to 5 sets and loses, he will have much more respect..from the Nadal fans..


wolfgang Says:

Wow Djoker is cleaning Ginepri’s clock now…looks like he take this easy now


madmax Says:

Ollyk, good luck to nole today.
Signed on late this morning and notice a few TT troublemakers come walking this way. Probably getting bored because they have no federer fans to have a go at.

Nadline has a problem with Federer and continually brings up this h2h. It’s very boring. She has nothing else to whinge about except federer. She hates the guy so much, nadline, you will no doubt read this, please read the post which purcell sent to you, on a federer thread 2 weeks ago, it was perfect. He told you to go to IKEA. It was such great advice. Why dont you take it? Unless of course you want to debate properly over here? Purcell, whereever you are, you are a legend.

I read recently the following, Michael, and I think you need to give Federer more credit.

“In the last 19 Grand Slams, Federer has been there on one end 18 times—the loss to Djokovic dividing his record run of 10 final appearances and his current continuing stretch of 8.

In the last 19 Grand Slams, Nadal has reached the finals on eight occasions and he has an impressive 6-2 win-loss ratio.

Federer has won 12 out of 18 finals in the same period, but importantly five of the six losses have been to Nadal.

Nadal can boast of a better win-loss ratio, BUT
(and this is the thing that is often forgotten), which makes Nadline’s argument (once again), *yawn* nadline, *yawn*), Borrrrinnggggggg.

Federer gives himself a greater chance and that is the reason why in the same period Federer has won double the number of Grand Slam titles than Nadal.”

Michael, Roger will beat soderling tomorrow. Why shouldn’t he? I dont think he is banking on his h2h, he sees every match as a new one, he will just have to step it up a gear from stan. He enjoys the challenge, and I think that as long as his serve is clicking (which it should be at this stage of the tournament), federer will put on a show. Go Federer!

I disagree with you michael that Stan was all over the place yesterday, he played really well and in the second set, if he hadn’t thrown away the mini break, the tiebreaker would have been his. And what a backhand Stan had – truly awesome.

Ollyk and Jane, Novak takes the second set!!!!! He’s firing now!


nadline Says:

Wolfgang, I saw the match in Madrid, and No I don’t agree with your logic. If Rafa beat Roger in a close match on the odd occasion, then your logic will stand up, but not in 14 out of 21 matches, and I’m not even going to bring fitness and injury into it.

Tennis is about winning the right points at the right time, and Rafa definitely has the edge on Roger on that. You might as well apply your logic to all the people Roger has beaten in close matches. It’s not as if Roger beats everyone else easily.


wolfgang Says:

Thanks Madmax
Ejoyed your thoughts..I agree Stan played well..he had some relly ripping back hands


madmax Says:

nadline,
go away. can’t you think up anything new? the problem you have is that because federer is the greatest tennis player ever, you can’t stomach it. There must be zero federer fans on TT right now, as you never come over here except when you are bored or want a fight.


madmax Says:

Come on Novak!

Much better play!

Duro, you not around watching your man?


nadline Says:

Wolfgang,

Let’s take Federer/Soderling whom Roger has a 12.0 h2h against, you could extend your logic to them in the same way, because they have had a lot of close matches.

2009 US Open
NY, U.S.A. Hard Q Federer, Roger
6-0, 6-3, 6-7(6), 7-6(6) Stats
2009 Wimbledon
Great Britain Grass R16 Federer, Roger
6-4, 7-6(5), 7-6(5) Stats
2009 Roland Garros
France Clay F Federer, Roger
6-1, 7-6(1), 6-4 Stats
2009 ATP World Tour Masters 1000 Madrid
Spain Clay R32 Federer, Roger
6-1, 7-5 Stats
2008 ATP Masters Series Paris
France Hard R32 Federer, Roger
6-4, 7-6(7) Stats
2008 Wimbledon
Great Britain Grass R64 Federer, Roger
6-3, 6-4, 7-6(3) Stats
2008 ATP Masters Series Hamburg
Germany Clay R16 Federer, Roger
6-3, 6-2 Stats
2008 ATP Masters Series Miami
FL, U.S.A. Hard R32 Federer, Roger
6-4, 3-0 RET Stats
2006 ATP Masters Series Madrid
Spain Hard R16 Federer, Roger
7-6(5), 7-6(8) Stats
2005 Halle
Germany Grass R32 Federer, Roger
6-7(5), 7-6(6), 6-4 Stats
2004 Bangkok
Thailand Hard Q Federer, Roger
7-6(3), 6-4 Stats
2004 ATP Masters Series Canada
Toronto, Canada Hard R32 Federer, Roger
7-5, 6-1 Stats

___________________

Would you conclude that it’s because Soderling plays silly shots at the wrong time?


OllyK Says:

Thanks, maxi!! Novak is playing very well since the beginning of the 3rd set…Ajde, Nole, finish this asap!


madmax Says:

wolfgang,

Yes I agree with you. Roger did play well in madrid. It was close. He got the first break and then gifted it back. I was happy with the way he played and pleased he got the final. He tried a few new things out, (an offbeat dropshot, cannot think of the name right now – but was great).

I think he can easily beat Rafa. I really do. Just needs to sort the head out. I dont think rafa has been playing that brilliantly this FO (I dont know what you think? probably because he has had such easy opponents to deal with. He has had an absolute cake walk of a draw.

His first opponent, ranked 453? and then gets a wild card? I mean talk about “easy”.

As for Murray, shocked he went out yesterday, really thought, and really looking forward to a federer -v- murray semi-final, but murray has had the most difficult draw this tournament, all tough matches for him. The positive is that he will be glad of the rest and the switch to grass.

C’moon Novak, you need to wrap this up!


madmax Says:

Hi ollyk! Yes! good to see you. I really want novak to win this match against ginepri (sorry ginepri fans). I think he is the only player who can make rafa wobble in the semis. I just hope he keeps it together and believes in himself.

When I see novak play the way he can play, (great, great tennis), I know that he can beat rafa. (like he almost did at Madrid SF last year). that was a tough loss for him, but with novak’s experience, i think as long as he improves on his serve, he should do well.


Michael Says:

Madmax, I am too a admirer of Federer and I never will doubt about his greatness. His record speaks for itself. He is the GOAT according to me. His grand slam consistency will be difficult to surpass. I too feel that H2H apparently makes little sense. Yet I feel that Federer can do a lot more better against Nadal than merely get tamed down. That is the reason I want badly Soderling to win the match against Federer tomorrow. Simply because if anybody can beat Nadal in this tournament, it can only be Soderling. Not Federer, nor Berdych. According to me, they stand little chance of eclipsing Nadal. By virtue of this, you can never claim to say that Soderling is better than Federer. But things are as they are and to me Nadal will be somewhat psychologically down against Soderling than the rest.


OllyK Says:

Maxi, good to see you, too.
Nole can beat Rafa. I truly believe he can. He is always very motivated and plays his best tennis when playing with Rafa. Even if he loses, we’ll watch a terrific match, that’s for sure.
Come on, Nole, one more game!!!


nadline Says:

Berdych will be the finalist from the top half.


Michael Says:

Nadline, You have made your point and it is quite valid. Federer has a bad H2H against Nadal but that doesn’t in any way diminish his greatness. Connors is ranked in the all time great list and you know his woeful H2H record against Borg, Mcenroe and Lendl. Players are known by their consistency, grand slam and tournament wins and not by H2H against a particular player.


Kimmi Says:

djoko thru, you must be happy jane. sean called it right..4 sets


Michael Says:

Nadline, I can understand your anxiety to put Berdych in the finals since you want to make it pretty easy for Rafa to have his fifth title at the Rolland Garros. But don’t you think by such continuous wins, Nadal is making the clay court Tennis a little boring.


OllyK Says:

Nole won!!! Yaaay! We are soo close to the semis, sooo close…;)
Jane, Duro, Sar and other fans, congrats!!!


margot Says:

jane, olly k: jko through, gr8!
Is that Meltzer winning his match?? What is going on??
kimmi: conditions just did not suit Andy, onward and upward. We are having dry, hot weather in UK. Not much rain. Hope this continues for Queens.


nadline Says:

Michael, thanks for seeing my point regarding the h2h, I am not saying that Federer is not great, whether he is the GOAT or not is open to debate.

As far as RG becoming boring due to Rafa dominating it, there again you are not applying the same logic to Federer winning USO, Wim, and OZ all the time. The same logic should apply all round.

By the way, I think Rafa will beat Federer or Sod just the same as Berdych in the final, if Rafa or whichever of those 3 from the top half get there, but I think Berdych is playing very well right now, that’s why I’ve picked him to reach the final. He has caused Roger trouble before.

It’s great to have a realistic dialogue with people like you who are fighting your corner with grace, just like I am, without getting into name calling and insults.


madmax Says:

Nadline, you are joking. you are funny. You make my day with assinine comments.

Michael, you’ll get used to her, don’t worry.

Michael.

Not the way to be. Federer will, (as he always does), be thinking about the match against Soderling only. That is tomorrow. His thoughts beyond that, do not exist. So for now, my thoughts and concentration are on the match tomorrow.

Federer will step it up into 5th gear (he was in 4th against Stan yesterday!).

I really believe that Federer can beat rafa.

There will be more pressure on Rafa in the final, (should he make it, as I think Novak (if he believes in himself more) could knock rafa out in the semis – pressure is on rafa, no one else).

I never doubt Roger’s intentions in a slam. He is there to win. I see a whole different player when he plays, this is what he works towards. He is a brilliant, brilliant, player in slams. The best.

Don’t you worry Michael. :)


madmax Says:

Margot? dry, hot weather?

It’s grey skies and gloomy where I am!

Happy for you that Novak got through! way to go nole!


wolfgang Says:

Madmax
Hey your right about Nadal not playing brilliantly..in fact the wildcard guy hey played Milani i think was his name actually played well against nadal the score line of 62 62 62 I think gives Nadal more credit..I think Nadal has been in much better form at the FO in the past especially the year he bageled Fed in the last set..I think Fed might take it this year if he can sort out his head as you said…I also love Djoker and hope he does well in his next match..i wish he was a little more consistent


Michael Says:

Nadline, The title of GOAT will always be subject for debate and it is best confined to individual opinion. Regarding the logic of Federer winning the USO, Wimbledon and Australian open all the time, it is not like that and Federer has lost in the finals to Nadal and Del Potro. Even Wimbledon 2006, 2007 and 2008 (where Nadal won) was very entertaining with Federer and Rafa battling each other and Nadal giving his very best. True, Federer has dominated Grand Slams for a major part and that makes it a little predictable and boring too (not to an avid Federer fan). But Nadal’s dominance on Clay is entirely different as he goes on to win every single Clay tournament he enters and that is what makes it more boring than the Federer domination which is restricted just to Grand slams of late with Federer losing his way in ATP Tournaments. Regards Rafa’s chances against Soderling, surely he is the favourite to win. But atleast I feel that having Soderling in the final will make it more interesting and the way he is playing now if he goes on to beat Federer and Berdych in the way, that will increase his confidence level against Rafa if the two gets to that stage. If it is Rafa Vs Soderling, I will put that 60:40 whereas if it is Rafa against the rest (including Federer), I will put that 75:25. That makes a lot of difference.


madmax Says:

Melzer is playing really, really well – but this one is close!

The wildcard is fighting back though! some great shots!


wolfgang Says:

Nadline
I am sorry but you must be dreaming if you think berdych will be a finalist…about the big list you gave me…you are obviously not following my logic..have you not read both Michael and madmax comments they also agree…Fed is prone to more mistakes when he plays Nadal because of the psychological factor..he makes too many unforced errors…He seems to be more nervous when he plays Nadal…but once he beats Nadal hopefully this time but anytime soon…he will feel much better…its clear to me you Hate Fed…sorry for you while I like Nadal…Fed is the Goat no doubt and as has been mentioned numerous times…the H2H is no so important… so how many games will belucci get off Nadal..does anyone know this guy well…man has Nadal ever had an easy ride to the semi’s


nadline Says:

If Rafa’s dominance on clay is boring, then I say, bring on the boredom. I like it!!!!!!!!!!

Surely, you don’t want to deny Rafa the Clay Slam, do you? Rafa needs some cheer after his trials and tribulations last year, C’mon, let’s give him a break here.


junaid Says:

i believe final will be played between Soderling and Novak….


Michael Says:

Madmax, You sound very confident about Federer chances against Nadal in the French. If that happens, I will be happy too since Federer would have proven a point and that is he can win against Nadal in the premier tournament of Paris. That would be crowning glory for him and will add glitter to his already shining crown. But that is a bit far from him since we have not even passed the quarter finals stage. Anyway all the best to Federer. May he prove me wrong and I will be more happy.


madmax Says:

Michael,

read the following article:

http://straightsets.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/05/31/a-must-win-for-nadal-no-but-close/

I think it is very interesting that Federer is going into this tournament as the underdog!

Just the way he likes it.

I remember over here in the UK, the talk was all about Murray taking his first slam. Federer was the guy who would be fighting in the final,and whilst I did enjoy the match, I thought Federer asserted his superiority and gave murray a master class.

I do think that Andy will win a slam, I do.

But I think when Federer is discussed in terms of where he is at with his tennis, some people get a bit wobbly.

There is simply no argument with him when it comes to the slams, Michael. He is the best in terms of consistency, and that goes for rafa as well. Rafa has not been consistent. He is an expert on ONE surface. (that is not to take away these massive achievements from him. He is a phenomenal player). And I am a federer fan who is happy to say that up until FO 2010, Federer is the second best clay courter in the world.

I believe the balance will be redressed at FO this year. I listened to him on webcam a few days ago about his aspirations and all the press reporters were talking about the final. Federer was having none of it at that moment. He is game by game (rightly so), then one of the reporters asked him if he could beat nadal. And he said yes. (without even a pause), I’ll go and find it for you in a moment.

I love that confidence about him. He is the best in my mind. I don’t care about h2h. I care about how Federer plays on the day, during the lead up to the Finals, and so far, he has been playing well. There is no reason why he should not progress.


nadline Says:

Wolfgang, I don’t hate Federer anymore than you hate Nadal. Obviously, Fedfans will agree with your logic, because they see it from your point of view.

I haven’t seen many of Sod’s matches so I don’t know how he is playing, but I have been impressed with Berdych. Federer has had an easy ride as well, did you hear what Reister said after their match – he said he is a fan of Federer, so he didn’t want to beat him – sweeeeet.


madmax Says:

Michael, I said one game at a time – it was yourself who brought up the finals and Fed not being there. I dont believe that will happen.

I believe he can beat Rafa. Why? Because he said so. Will now go to find this for you. cheers michael.


Kimmi Says:

end of the road for gabashvili


Polo Says:

I would like Federer to make it to the finals. I would very much like to see Federer beat Nadal at a French Open final. I just don’t think it could or would happen.

Nadal’s clay game is only boring in its predictability on how easily he beats everyone. But surely, that is not Nadal’s fault. Blame it on who he plays against.


madmax Says:

Michael,

Okay. So the first thing I would like you to do, is to click on this link. It’s about 3 minutes long but you have to wait until you get half way through. You have to look at Fed’s body language, facial expression and when he responds to the reporter’s question –

I have also cut and pasted the part of the interview. (a few lines).

Federer knows he is the underdog, no one believes he can win. This is great for him, because he knows he can prove everyone wrong.

http://www.rolandgarros.com/en_FR/news/interviews/2010-05-28/201005281275060272861.html

Q. Nadal won three tournaments. Now you are together in Roland Garros. You won the last year. Do you think that you’re able to win also this year?
ROGER FEDERER: Yes, I do. (laughter.)
You want me to explain, or are you happy? You want me to explain? I won last year, so I think I can do it again. (laughter.)
THE MODERATOR: Questions in French.


madmax Says:

http://www.rolandgarros.com/en_FR/news/interviews/2010-05-28/201005281275060272861.html

Q. Nadal won three tournaments. Now you are together in Roland Garros. You won the last year. Do you think that you’re able to win also this year?
ROGER FEDERER: Yes, I do. (laughter.)
You want me to explain, or are you happy? You want me to explain? I won last year, so I think I can do it again. (laughter.)
THE MODERATOR: Questions in French.

Michael,

read the above link.

I believe federer can beat nadal. He believes that he can win the french again. So I like to listen to what Federer says and how he conducts himself in pressers. He seems confident of his game and how he is playing. There is no reason why he cannot beat Soderling. I am sure that he will be discussing his game plan with Luthi today (inbetween feeding the babies!) and a practice session.

The video link though is better Michael because you see fed’s facial expression and body language, tone of voice and his reaction to the question, rather than reading it on a page.

Nadline, I don’t hate Rafa. Never have. Don’t put me into the same category as you and your continual boring dislike of Federer (for no reason other than pure jealousy), or Michael or Wolfgang for that matter.

Federer is the best.


madmax Says:

http://www.rolandgarros.com/en_FR/news/interviews/2010-05-28/201005281275060272861.html

Q. Nadal won three tournaments. Now you are together in Roland Garros. You won the last year. Do you think that you’re able to win also this year?
ROGER FEDERER: Yes, I do. (laughter.)
You want me to explain, or are you happy? You want me to explain? I won last year, so I think I can do it again. (laughter.)
THE MODERATOR: Questions in French.

Michael,

see Fed’s video link first. Check out the body language, facial expression and tone of voice. before you read the interview.

Cheers.


Orville Says:

It is a suprise Venus lost to Petrova because she had a 4-0 record against her. Venus once again just fails to deliver in the big matches. Venus is getting old and I think her best days are behind her. Venus is on her way out.


margot Says:

As we talk knickers on this site….have u all seen Serena’s? Awesome. What is also quite awesome is how such a big woman can move so quickly. I think she must be the female equivalent of Rafa across the net, intimidating to say the least.


nadline Says:

I think Eurosport jinxed Gabashvili yesterday by saying that he had lost the fewest games so far, so today he made up for it.


Tess Says:

Michael,

I think this is what Madmax is talking about.

I read this interview from Federer, I think, on Friday last week.

He stated his intentions very clearly. Thought I would share this with you.

Madmax may have been referring to something else?

But I also think that Federer will win the French. (At least I hope he does).

htmhttp://www.rolandgarros.com/en_FR/news/interviews/2010-05-28/201005281275060272861l

I read his interview on Friday last week. I think you need to watch the link before you read the part I have put here, his face shows more of Federer’s self-belief.

I don’t know why he seems to get nervous when he meets Rafa. Out of the two players, Federer is the one who is the more consistent in grand slams (in my view), so should really be the more confident? Do you agree?

Madmax, is this the one you were referring to?


Kimmi Says:

so much topspin on stosur fh..giving henin some problems


Gannu Says:

Stosur is playing very well… Hope the nadal vs bellucci is not a damn boring match with Nadal gobbling up bellucci..I am really bored of nadal.. hope some one defeats him.. just cant bare to see him..


pro rafa Says:

Thank god Murray lost!!!! He’s avoided a certain mauling at the hands of Roger Fedrer(perhaps a triple bagel:):):))
I cant be happier than this… go Roger…go Rafa…meet in the finals and give us a match to remember for a long time


jane Says:

Have just awoken to happy news – Nole won! Cheers to all his fans and thanks to all for kind wishes. Melzer is up next, and he seems to be on a bit of a tear. Well, at least it looks as though Djoko served quite well today, only 2 doubles over 4 sets and 70% firsts in for the match. This was key. Maybe I can find it one tape delay. Also, kudos to Robby Ginepri; he had a beautiful run at RG and put up a strong challenge. I hope that neck surgery continues to bring good things for him.

I see Henin is in a battle and Rafa is on the court.

margot – as mentioned on the other thread, what a shame about Muzza, but hoping to see a continuation from him of last year’s great form on the lawns.


Duro Says:

Guantanameraaa nanina Guantanameraaa, Guantanameeeraaaa nanina Guantanameeeeraaaaa!

Hi to Maxi (which I didn’t here from for a long time), OllyK my sister by Novak, Jane the most devoted and beloved Novak’s fan, Sar my dearest friend and the only one that I met from Tennis-X…

Happy, happy, happy…


pro rafa Says:

wtf!!! 9 unforced errors 4m nadal already!!! come on rafa….Vamos rafa….keep blasting winners please


Duro Says:

Oh, and kimmimmissimo, of course, despite her no-good clay court player…

Kimmi, we shall stay stuck at 4:3 H2H until 2014.

Phew…


Kimo Says:

A couple of years ago Bellucci pushed Rafa in the first set in what eventually turned out to be an easy win for Rafa. Bellucci is a much better player now and I expect him to at least take a set today.

Rafa is committing to many UEs by his lofty standards, even though today’s conditions are much better than Saturday’s.


Kimmi Says:

henin oh dear df to give a break..stosur to win this, i see it coming.. her fh is leathal


Kimo Says:

Stosur’s serve is incredible. Everyone can she her sculpted arms, but for her size she sure generates a lot of pop on her serve.

But with Sam, it’s a question of nerves more than anything.


Kimo Says:

Justine is in full scrambling mode right now. Sam hitting her groundies beautifully.


Kimo Says:

And her nerves let her down. Again. She was too tight on that netted forehand.


Tess Says:

Michael,

I have been reading some of the above comments –

It’s Tess. But anyway,

Also, I think Federer will win the FO, only because I sometimes doubted his intentions (a while ago now), but since I read his interview on Roland Garros official tennis site, and watched his facial expression, I really think that he can win. He thinks he can win, and I think it’s important to listen to what he says! He comes across as confident and has that self-belief that at one time, I think evaded him?

What do you think?

This is the link and here is the bit I read.(It’s towards the end). Enjoy Michael!

http://www.rolandgarros.com/en_FR/news/interviews/2010-05-28/201005281275060272861.html

I’m watching the Henin match right now. Very close. I really don’t know who is going to win!


Kimmi Says:

“Kimmi, we shall stay stuck at 4:3 H2H until 2014.”

lol, looks like it duro. but clay is getting to the end, so don’t get too excited..grass and hc is where we shine.

Henin breaks back..tough tough match


rose Says:

what a shaky game for stosur and lost the break..equal term now ..cmon justine!!!


OllyK Says:

Margot: YES! It is GREAT! :) And I am so sorry that Andy lost yesterday..But, on the other hand, he’ll have more time to adjust his game for grass season which suits him very well!

Duro, my brother…:D I’m glad to see you happy^3! What do you think, are we going to the semis? :)

Btw, it looks like Belucci-Nadal match will last forever if they continue like this. :)


margot Says:

Hi jane, yes bring on the grass!
Hi Happy Duro!
Babk holiday in UK in case you’re all thinking we’re bunking work!


Gannu Says:

As expected Stosur chokes big time.. diff betn mortals and immortals.. champions and losers!!


OllyK Says:

or not… ;)


Duro Says:

Olly, are we going to the semis!!!???

Where else, Ollyyyyyyy?

Semis in the air…


Kimo Says:

Great hold by Stosur there from 0-30. I thought she would choke. She shouldn’t given how she’s keeping Justine on the defensive for a set and a half.


Kimmi Says:

duro, others are thinking “are we going to win this?” and you, only talks about the semi..not much confidence, no?


Duro Says:

Hey, Margot! Sorry about your fave.

Maxi presents you as a Novak’s fan all the time.
Explain her whose fan you are. Not easy this time, but…

Wimby’s coming. See you in the finals. Your guy against mine. You’ll prevail, but USO will be a sweet revenge. OK with you?


pro rafa Says:

Nadl 6-2 first set…. lots of unforced errors though


margot Says:

OMG here’s another really promising…and good looking…kid, Bellinni. If I jump on any more bandwagons I’ll have to buy a travel pass!


Kimo Says:

Sam breaks!!! Stosur ftw!!! Don’t let this slip through ur fingers, Sammie!!!


OllyK Says:

Durooo, that was rhetorical question!!! Of course we’ll be there on Friday! :D Final is the only alternative! :)


Duro Says:

Kimmi, I want some points finally!!! No confidence!? Impossible with me. I just don’t want to talk about it in advance. Be around and wait to see!


Kimmi Says:

justine..oh no! stosur looking good to win this. unless she chokes ofcourse.


Kimo Says:

Henin misses a routine shot. She’s shocked at how things turned out.


Kimmi Says:

2 bad errors for sam..


Kimmi Says:

i mean for henin


margot Says:

Hi Duro. I keep telling you I’m a big Djko fan..and you keep not believing me…of course in a final, but that’s another matter.


Kimo Says:

2 MPs SAM


Kimo Says:

Henin wants to complete a career slam? She can’t even hold on to a tournament she used to OWN.

Well done Sam. Definitely the better player today.


Kimo Says:

Henin’s crying.


rose Says:

Game over justine :(


Kimmi Says:

sam wins..congrats..plays very well..can she win serena now?


rose Says:

Now serena is wining this one..grrrr


Gannu Says:

Serena to win French Open… all others will just tremble when the lioness lets out a roar…;-)


jane Says:

Stosur for a big win, hope she wins the next round too. Her arms are ripped. Too bad for Justine but not bad for her comeback to reach the quarters.

margot – yes Bellucci is good, especially on this surface; lol on the bus pass! Rafa just makes it look easy, like he did for the most part versus a feisty Hewitt. Can you tell me what a “bank holiday” is exactly? I read about them in Bridget Jones and have always wondered. : )


jane Says:

Duro, glad to see you so happy. Don’t count your chickens before they’re hatched though. : )


margot Says:

jane: basically a public holiday, stems from days when EVEN the banks were shut, I believe.


jane Says:

margot, EVEN banks closed? LOL. Thanks. You have to excuse Duro because he likes to tease me, for example, for being a fan of more than one player, just like you, even if we do have top faves. I have always figured, players come and go but tennis stays. So my faves change and multiply, but I never tire of this sport.

Rafa is clicking into a higher gear by the looks of it.


rose Says:

Nadal is in a groove now…it seems like we are gonna have another Spaniards battle in the quarter finals


Kimmi Says:

bellucci breaks..


Kimo Says:

It pisses me off how Rafa, despite not being able to produce his best tennis, wins in straight sets. I mean, I don’t mind him winning if he’s playing well, but often he wins almost by default, because the other guy was too awed by Rafa or something.

Rafa doesn’t deserve straight set wins for this level of play.


Polo Says:

Bellucci is holding up well against Nadal. But guess who will end up winning this match?


Polo Says:

Oops! My post sounded so much like Kimo’s. It wasn’t there where I hit the submit box.


rose Says:

Belluci holds..both players are playing well…nice match so far


Kimo Says:

Soderling’s game plan last year against Rafa still works. You can see how Rafa struggle when he’s pulled wide on the forehand side. Yet somehow no one is able to do it.

Rafa’s forehand is much better offensively than defensively, and Rafa’s backhand is much better defensively than it is offensively. You can attack his backhand all day, he’ll hit them back 90% of the time, but if you pull him wide on the forehand, he’ll hit nothing but the net because of his extreme grip.

Take notes, Roger.


Kimmi Says:

nadal looks really mad if his opponent hold serve..the hard stare he is giving them..he want to break them all the time if possible.


Polo Says:

Women’s tennis is not worth watching. Everybody trembles in fear when they see Serena across the net. A bunch of screaming nervous wrecks. It is like a horror movie. The ladies scream in fear then die. Serena is their Freddy Krueger.


rose Says:

the Parisians crow cheering really loud every time belucci wins a point..i guess they still dislike the king of clay :)


jane Says:

Kimo, “often he wins almost by default, because the other guy was too awed by Rafa or something.” Well, many have said the same thing about Fed too, of course. I guess the very top guys do build up a kind of “aura,” but on reflection it’s not based on nothing. It’s due to their records and consistency. I suppose it can carry them on off days though, which can be frustrating if you’re cheering for the underdog.

Bellucci is very good though. I am impressed with his effort to break back and hold; he is a talented young chap – I would not be surprised to see him take a set today.

Not sure what is affecting Rafa’s level. The weather/conditions? Or the increased errors are due to his efforts to finish points faster?


Tess Says:

I dont think the French crowd dislike rafa. I think they just want to see different people winning the title – may be they are just a bit bored?


jane Says:

LOL Polo! I loved you’re 10:43 post comparing women’s tennis to a horror movie; maybe that’s why I like watching it. Ha!


Kimo Says:

This is almost gonna sound riduculous, but I don’t think Rafa is very confident with his level of play right now. He has a concerned look on his face. Not his usual game face. He knows he’s nowhere near his level in Monte-Carlo or Roland Garros 2008.

Polo, very true about women’s tennis, but I would make one exception to that rule. And that is Maria. When she loses, she loses because she didn’t play well, or because her game or her movement let her down. She never loses because she’s intimidated. That’s what I admire about her.


jane Says:

Almagro seems to be cruising against Hotsauce; I noticed a number of the pundits are picking Nico to win.


Daniel Says:

Kimo is right,

I am brazilian but I can’t stand this guys not holding pressure. Look at this last game, 2 unofrced errors from forehand inside the court and a doube fault on break point. I know, there is the Nadal effect, which forces the opponents tp go for more and more, but still, y=they can’t miss this balls.


Polo Says:

Why don’t these guys play more patiently against Nadal? They keep going for winners that only end up in errors anyway. Their strategy should be to stay with Nadal as long as possible. The best way to get to Nadal is through his knees.


Kimmi Says:

jane, it takes two to make errors. bellucci is playing well so nadal is pressing sometimes. so, we should give credit to bellucci for making rafa uncomfortable…which you have done ofcourse :)


Duro Says:

Margot, OK if you say so… I think it started the moment you saw him at O2 Arena, right? You were clearly Andy’s fan earlier, isn’t that right? You’re welcome, don’t worry.

Jane, the multiple fan, the chickens are already hatched! 1, 2, 3 …

Come on Nole ole ole ole, ole ole ole, ole ole ole…

Was that the same Stosur that couldn’t hit the court in the Hit for Haiti exo?


jane Says:

Kimo, agree with you on Sharpie; she is a fighter and a screamer. I think you make a valid point about Rafa too. He is not playing his best, and I am sure he knows it.


Kimo Says:

See, a confident Rafa would never get broken on clay while serving for the set.


Daniel Says:

I take back my words, first to take 5 games from Nadal in this year RG!


Polo Says:

Kimo, I agree. Sharapova is probably the toughest mentally, even tougher than Serena. You never see her panic or throw a tantrum no matter what the score is. But I cannot stand her ear-splitting shrieks.


jane Says:

Kimmi, true. Unforced errors are often “forced”.


Kimmi Says:

*gulp* almagro bread stick verdasco

great get from nadal and he breaks again


Kimo Says:

See that passing shot? Now why the hell didn’t keep attacking Rafa’s forehand? Nadal is too good defensively on the backhand.


jane Says:

That point to break again is more like the Rafa on clay that we’re used to.


Daniel Says:

This Nadal’s celebrations are really ofensive, as if he is saying take it in your a**! It’s a sexual movement for Crist sake.


rose Says:

nice game for nadal ..i guess the intimidating factor didnt play a role on the game cause belucci played it damn good..so give so credit to rafa :)


Kimmi Says:

lolz daniel


Polo Says:

I find celebrations like what Nadal just did very unsportsmanlike. Nadal has been doing that more frequently recently. It is very irritating to watch.


rose Says:

not many nadal fans in this blog huh..he even gets criticize for the way he celebrates a point ..lol..


jane Says:

Exuberant celebrations don’t bother me. I interpret it as the player just blowing off tension/steam after a tense point in the match, but not meant as disrespect to the opponent. Some people like a more subdued reaction/celebration though, and that’s fair enough.


jane Says:

Kimmi, looks like Hotsauce got a break to start the second set.


rose Says:

Exuberant celebrations don’t bother me. I interpret it as the player just blowing off tension/steam after a tense point in the match, but not meant as disrespect to the opponent. Some people like a more subdued reaction/celebration though, and that’s fair enough.

well said!!!


skeezerweezer Says:

“pro rafa Says:

Nadal 6-2 first set…. lots of unforced errors though”

That has got too be the funniest one liner I have ever heard….

I don’t care if a guy it’s more UE’s then winners in a set. I’ll take 6-2. And I’ll take 7-5. The point is he doesn’t have to worry about that stuff, as long as he is winning.

Nadline,

Oh, I forgot, Roger just played a guy he’s lost too in the past, so that is not a cakewalk. You look through a smoked glass cause he’s your fav has beaten people nobody’s heard of….and he has lost to nobody that is in the whole FO draw on Clay in is half. Ever.


Daniel Says:

One thing is a fist pump, or even scream to take the tension out of it, but serious look again to what he does: He stops in front of you and literally acts, yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhh, I fu#c* you in your a*** b*t*h, while screaming, pease, I am a man and this is embarrasing. I can’t imagine how you ladies doesn’t got it, maybe it goes to your imagination, no offense made!


Gannu Says:

At this rate i think fedex will be humiliated by rafa…Fed has absolutely zilch game to beat rafa on clay.. i know this is coming from a die-hard fan but i guess i need to be practical..

The only personperhaps who can beat rafa is soderling..A) u need to have a very very flat forehand…you just cant outslug rafa using top spin forhenad B)U need a double handed back hand like Del PO… and a single handed backhand will be munched left right and centre by Rafa

I guess it will be embarassing to see fed slaughtered and further damage his already worsening head to head

and Add to that Fed does have a Nadalocomplex… and i cant deny that..


Polo Says:

That’s how you play Nadal. Keep him running continuously for a long time.


Daniel Says:

Bellucci’s drop shots are not working at all today, agaisnt Ljubicic he wasn’t missing any.


Daniel Says:

Again 40-15 and he let the game gest complicated.


Polo Says:

Does anybody know what’s happening in the Almagro-Verdasco match?


rose Says:

almagro took the first set 6-1 and the second set verdasco has a break 4-3 on serve verdasco


Kimmi Says:

polo, verdasco started really bad 6-1 to almagro in the first set but playing much better in the second *4-3

*verdasco serving with a break


Polo Says:

Thanks, rose and Kimmi. Who do you think has a better chance against Nadal?


jane Says:

Polo, Verdasco lost the first set 1-6, and in the second set he’s up a break, 5-3.

Daniel, no offense taken. : ) I didn’t analyze the move itself too deeply because I think it’s just a visceral reaction, not calculated. But to each his/her own.


Duro Says:

Polo, Novak Djokovic.


rose Says:

my money goes to Nico…his backhand is just lethal and he was one of the only 2 guys that took a set from nadal on this clay season..that would be a nice match up for mr nadal


jane Says:

Bellucci played a poor game there, some weak errors. He almost seems to play better when he’s down a break. It could be a mental thing.


Andrew Miller Says:

Bellucci looks out of this match. Nadal looks to be through soon.


jane Says:

I agree with Rose, particularly if the conditions stay as is. Nico hits flatter shots. Verdasco grinds a bit more from what I have seen.


Polo Says:

Djokovic vs Nadal won’t be until the semifinals. I was referring to Almagro and Verdasco. Both very talented but both mentally weak.

About exuberant celebrations, I just hate them in general when the match is not over yet. I like them right after clinching the victory. Any other time I think is premature. It is my personal subjective reaction to it. Everbody responds to it differently and I respect that.


Ezorra Says:

Rose says;

“not many nadal fans in this blog huh..he even gets criticize for the way he celebrates a point ..lol..”

So true. That is why I’m getting fed up with this blog. It seems like everything done by Nadal is wrong to them… I miss the moment where I can read some reasonable and inspirational comments from posters like MMT, Giner, Voicemail, Von, SGreen, Grendel, sensationalsafin (ben,) Jane and others. Sigh~


Polo Says:

I am an equal opportunity hater of exuberant celebrations when a match has not been won yet. I don’t like all of them.


Polo Says:

Ezorra, go look for them then and stop lecturing about what bloggers want to write.


Skeezerweezer Says:

Someone took a set off Rafa? No. Really? Wow

re: Rafa’s celebration. Funny, in US, in the NFL, u would get penalized a lot for what Rafa does. Too much time: 5 yards. Over the top celebration: 15 yards. I know, this is not Football, just sayin ….


Polo Says:

Thanks, Skeezer. That was reasonable and inspirational!


Skeezerweezer Says:

Rafa is great! Vaaammmooz!!


Daniel Says:

Don’t come with this Nadal’s is critized for everything. Fed used to be criticezed for not being married to Mirka, for being to cool on court, for everything he says, or not say.. This comes with being sports stars.


Ezorra Says:

Guys, GOODBYE!


Kimo Says:

rose said:

“my money goes to Nico…his backhand is just lethal and he was one of the only 2 guys that took a set from nadal on this clay season..that would be a nice match up for mr nadal”

Techinically? Yes. Mentally? Not a chance.


Andrew Miller Says:

I am an equal opportunity basher of the French Open chanters and the J Block. Both annoying at their respective venues.


Duro Says:

Polo, of course :-). I’m just cheering! As for your real question, if Almagro wins, he’s the one. Dasco doesn’t have a smallest chance there is.

Ezzora, if you only knew what two people you put next to each other… They would kill one another if they only could ha ha ha. Plus, you won’t see one of those names ever again…


Andrew Miller Says:

(throw in Lleyton’s crazies for good measure)


Kimmi Says:

verdasco is losing this match, almagro is better today


Polo Says:

I reviewed the entries for this particilar blog. I didn’t find entries that were critical of Nadal. In fact, a majority of them were in praise of Nadal or in awe of his greatness on clay. So this gripe about Nadal being critized for everything has no factual basis. Therefore, I can only conclude that it was a paranoid reaction.


Daniel Says:

Looking at those names Ezorra mention, Giner and JCF really vanish so did Grendel, the others kept posting.


Polo Says:

Goodbye, Ezorra. I know you are still there and reading. That is what paranoid people do.


Duro Says:

No no Daniel, look a bit more carefully…


jane Says:

Ezorra, some people round here like and/or respect Rafa. Besides which, he just won!! Congrats to him and kudos to Bellucci for trying his best.

Fed and Rafa are looking formidable so far.

Looks like Nico is cooking a bagel or a breadstick.

Andrew, LOL, I am one who’s annoyed by the persistent crowd chanters as well. “OLE!”


rose Says:

one more spot open for the QF..i hope verdasco picks up his game…


Kimmi Says:

definetly run out of gas verdasco..too much tennis is catching up with him.


Andrew Miller Says:

OLE!


Polo Says:

What’s the score between Almagro and Verdasco? I went to ADTHE but nothing comes out of the screen.


Andrew Miller Says:

Bellucci could become a big player – and from what I can see he doesnt seem to think very strategically (based on the Nadal match). I say this seeing Nadal as an “ultimate test” that allows an opponent to showcase absolutely everything they have. With more work and desire he seems like he could be a big player. I like his game.

Example: Roddick had to bring everything his game has to beat Nadal in Miami, showing different dimensions of his game.


rose Says:

well done rafa !!!. and this bellucci guy has potential cant wait to see more of him in the near future…second week of the French is here guys.enjoy some tennis..and kudos to the players that made to the QF so far..cant wait to watch exquisite tennis this week ..let the best player win !!!!


jane Says:

Polo, you could try ADTHE again; yesterday I tried a couple times during Murray’s last set, and it seemed that there was a delay before the picture and sound came up. Anyhow, it’s 6-1, 4-6, 6-1 for Nice.


jane Says:

Nico, Almagro I mean.


Polo Says:

Thanks, I will try again.
By the way, we all seem to be in agreement that Almagro would be a tougher opponent for Nadal in the quarters.


Duro Says:

Tougher opponent!? Nicolas Almagro will do it this time! But Dasco is a problem…


Andrew Miller Says:

Actually looking forward to Jankovic-Hantuchova! Two of the best ball strikers of the WTA, they hit so cleanly. Hantuchova of course, classic choking in big matches. But, undeniably clean backhands and forehands for both of these players.

Maybe JJ can win the tournament? I still pick Serena (or the winner of the Serena-Henin matchup if we get it) but maybe JJ has something to say about it, as will probably Dementieva.

(Sorry to kick the other two players, the Aussie and Shedova to the curb. I plead ignorance in not knowing their games!)


Andrew Miller Says:

That must be something that bothers me about Ivanovic. She has such a big, strong game and to not see it at the later stages of tournaments is confusing.

I guess it must be like seeing James Blake slip into oblivion on the ATP tour, or maybe to see the 2004 champ Gaston Gaudio play qualifiers in 2010. It’s just crazy.

Tennis, It is What it Is.


nadline Says:

@skeezerweezer, so Roger beat Wawrinka who had only beaten him once out of 5 goes, and that makes it a tough draw for Roger. Whoever heard of Falla, and Reister, Luczak hardly rolls off the tongue in terms of tennis.

All the top players usually get easy early rounds, perhaps they should have swapped Wawrinka with Bellucci for Federer in the last round. I wonder which one Roger would prefer to play.

Verdasco is suffering from overplaying, I think. He looks tired.


Andrew Miller Says:

Or maybe, in the Serbian battle of the WTA for bragging rights, Jankovic beat Ivanovic once and for all? THE DRAMA!


Andrew Miller Says:

Federer had no role in FLopez losing, or Monfils, or Tipsarevic. Federer’s draw looked tricky, but all those guys lost so Federer’s draw became “awesome”


Daniel Says:

Duro, now I am curious: Jane is a regular; Voicemail1, Von and MMT still post; sensationalsafin will never see again, since he got revamp to Ben Pronin; the only one left is SGreen, who ised to be Fe and Djoko fan. Why, she/he changed his name and you know to who?!


jane Says:

Andrew, Stosur beat Henin today so we won’t see Serena vs. Henin here. Maybe JJ vs. Serena though?


Duro Says:

Daniel, first of all let me start by this: Sonos todos Brasilianos! I like it.

Of course I do, but I can’t tell.


Andrew Miller Says:

Jane oh my goodness!!! I had no idea Henin was out! Huge win by Stosur!!!!!!!

Do you think Serena has a shot at the finals?


jane Says:

Daniel, I was thinking that Duro meant grendel since grendel vowed to never return about a year or so ago.

BTW, your typing looks like you’re laying in bed watching tennis again. ; )

Do you still think Fed will defend his title? I am looking forward to Fed versus Soda pop. I think it’ll be a cracker of a match if they both play well. Fed should prevail though; he usually does.


jane Says:

Andrew, of course Serena has a shot at the finals; she’s Serena. : ) But Stosur could upset her, as could JJ, depending on their form and if they can hold their own mentally and not “tremble” as Polo put it.


Andrew Miller Says:

Kind of get the sense Jankovic is digging her teeth into the match. I like how Hantuchova’s playing, variety and pace.


nadline Says:

Rafa had to play Hewitt, he could have played Ljubicic and Gonzo as well.


jane Says:

Kimmi, sorry about Hotsauce, but I think his clay season caught up to him. Almagro looks very pumped.


nadline Says:

Nadal is playing Almagro next.


Andrew Miller Says:

I LOVE watching Hantuchova and Jankovic hit, their tennis strokes are just awesome. Hantuchova was the next big thing to rival the Williams earlier the last decade. Glad to see her playing well.

JJ, what can you say, when she is up for it she plays a heck of a match.


Duro Says:

Andrew Miller, I like you. Keep posting.


Andrew Miller Says:

Random question: will Zvonareva ever control her temper? I’ve noticed a sea-change in Petrova, she used to have issues with the temper on court but she now seems to be pretty focused AND happy.

I’ve felt Zvonareva could be such a great player but that she defeats herself DURING the match and can be uncomfortable for an opponent to play because of the abuse Zvonareva inflict upon HERSELF during the course of a match. It was hard to watch her play in Miami when I saw her play JJ a few years ago.


Polo Says:

Too bad for Verdasco. He should have paced himself better and not played all those tournaments leading to the French. How he could even think that he would not run out of gas is beyond me. But congratulations to Almagro for a well-deserved win. I hope he plays the best he can for a great match with Nadal.


Kimmi Says:

yes, hope verdasco can be smart about his schedule next time. GS are what matters..he has to learn but kudos to almagro he played very well, never let up.

Stosur has one of the best serve and fh on clay..a lot of spin which works well for her but she is susceptible to errors. hope she brings her game with serena.


Andrew Miller Says:

Hi Duro, thanks! I like this blog, everyone brings a lot of knowledge about tennis. Some of my facts are mixed up and I like it when everyone else corrects me.


Kimmi Says:

andrew miller – petrova still has emotinal issues on court. yesterday with venus, she was shouting at her coach every time she loses a point or make an error. Even the commentator was saying “you can never win every point, you have to give credit to your opponent too”..she was going mad but played well on important points


Polo Says:

No player with a legitimate chance of winning a major should play a tournament that immediately precedes a slam. Majors last two weeks and they are 5-set matches. And if the weather goes awry, they may have to play in consecutive days. You need to conserve your energy for the majors. They are ones that really count.


Andrew Miller Says:

One worry about Hantuchova: I wonder if she can go the distance against JJ and match her stroke for stroke. I fear she cant: JJ can stay out there all day!


Duro Says:

About Almagro… He let Rafa slip his hands in Paris (last year Masters) just to leave Novak finish him, and that’s why I’m thankful to him, but it’s time to do a real thing. Rafa isn’t playing invincible and Nico plays his best, and it’s about time that he exceeds his worshiping of Spanish clay king and put some real guts into it and do it for once! If not, we’ll repeat the scenario again… :-).


Andrew Miller Says:

Hi Kimmi – I had no idea! I watched part of the Petrova-Rezai match, did Petrova do the same thing? I did see Petrova abuse her racquet against Henin a while back in Miami.


jane Says:

Kimmi, I hope the Stosur vs. Serena match is competitive anyhow. You’re right that Sam can hit a lot of errors, perhaps due to nerves.

Very true about Verdasco – I have no idea why he played Nice. He should have taken that week to recuperate and recharge his batteries. I firmly believe he’d be in the Quarters right now if he had. Anyhow, I hope the Nico vs. Rafa match is at least competitive. I think Almagro can maybe trouble Rafa a bit under these conditions, maybe take a set? But it’s unlikely he’ll win.


Polo Says:

All the girls have brain issues, except for Serena and Maria S. See what happened when Henin “retired” while Serena had injury problems? There was a different number one every week and each of them had a nervous breakdown from the pressure.


Andrew Miller Says:

Duro, I think you are right about Almagro biting the bullet and going for the win against Nadal. However, to me it looks like Wawrinka-Federer all over again: like Wawrinka, Almagro is one of Spain’s best players whose had moments against his countryman (even a win by Wawrinka over Fed), and like Wawrinka, at the biggest moments, the champ wins. Wawrinka simply got smashed yesterday. Almagro MUST avoid that scenario!


jane Says:

Andrew, in the Rezai match Petrova was excitable, yes. She was looking at her coach/box smirking when she was winning and scowling when she was losing. She’s probably always going to be a moody player, but as long as she can manage it and play within herself during the big points, it shouldn’t preclude her from success. Look at Johnny Mac as evidence. : )


Kimmi Says:

Hi andrew – i did not see rezai-petrova match but maybe she is getting better at contolling her emotions, afterall..she is playing better now.

but still she is one of crazy ones on court..but i agree zvenarova takes the cake.


Andrew Miller Says:

Nice may have paid Verdasco a big $$$ appearance fee?


Duro Says:

Wawa actually at least did it once. Nico not. So, there should be a first time for everything… Rafa’s losing too many games comparing to what we are used to. Running a lot, wearing down more than we see. Who knows… Nico learned a lot from last time, I’m sure. Great flat game to trouble Rafa very much. Trouble by trouble and there’s Novak waiting if he fails.


Andrew Miller Says:

It must be a nightmare to play Zvonareva from what you’ve pointed out! Not because Zvonareva is incredible (I think she’s excellent) but because someone almost wants to leave the court because of how uncomfortable it is to watch her antics!


Andrew Miller Says:

Awesome job by JJ to take set 1. Hantuchova really going for big shots, and making mistakes. JJ now hitting deeper, playing tougher. Looks like JJ has the momentum.


Kimmi Says:

jj already up a set and a break


jane Says:

Duro, Novak still has to beat Melzer, who beat Ferrer in straights including a bagel. I’d be careful about putting him in the semis before he gets there. You never know what can happen.


jane Says:

Kimmi did you see all of the Henin vs. Stosur match? Do you think/know if Stosur can beat Serena?


Andrew Miller Says:

Duro – exactly! It’s the flat game that gives Rafa trouble! Almagro should take advantage of that. Anyone that “works the ball” against Rafa is in trouble. They MUST hit flat and not give Rafa time to “set up” – even if Rafa runs every ball down.

Correct me if I am wrong but Soderling dictated the match last year against Nadal, and so did Roddick in Miami once her lost the 1st set. Nadal gets shocked by dictating play as it upsets his rhytm.

But playing a high top spin game? Forget it – Nadal will just turn the opponent into a human yo-yo!

(Please no more of that crazy French Chant!)


andrea Says:

i hope that either petrova or dementieva makes it to the final on that side of the draw. neither have made it that far and it would be nice to see one of those ‘old timers’ pull thru.

bad news about henin. after her hard fought 3rd set against maria yesterday, she must be bummed. it’s tough though…she’s definitely not got the same amount of power that so many other women players have these days….but she has great defence so that helps.


Andrew Miller Says:

Hantuchova has to “slow down”, she’s missing “wide” and getting drawn into a “slug fest” with JJ, which minimizes Hantuchova’s clever shot making. She has to work the point, utilize her range and not get drawn into JJ’s plan!

She should also serve into the body more and away from either JJ’s forehand or backhand.


Kimmi Says:

jane – she could, but she has to play well.

Henin serving was her problem today..too many second serves and DF to give a break..thats just too bad.

Stosur shots were troubling henin..too much topspin on the forehand..her serve though not high first serve but second serve has a kick..so henin could not attack..lets see what she can do to serena.


Andrew Miller Says:

Hantuchova will lose a slugfest. She only has a shot if she mixes it up!


Polo Says:

Andrew, I think you hit the nail in the head. I forgot the appearance money aspect.


sar Says:

Watching ESPN repeat of Djok match. They keep talking about Djok’s bad fitness, his breathing.
LOL Cliff Drysdale and Brad Gilbert orgasmic whenever Genepri gets a point.


Andrew Miller Says:

JJ just superior off the ground: better movement, more aggressive.


sar Says:

Wow, she is putting the hurt on Dani, who I like, but not today.


Andrew Miller Says:

Djok’s fitness really troubles me. Does he have a condition? Seems fitness has been an issue since 2006!


Duro Says:

Dear Jane… Always brings me back from the clouds… I know, Jane, I know! Now I’m worried… Novak won’t make it to the semis… :-(

Kidding, hellooooo…

Of course he’s gonna make it! Don’t even doubt it. You just try! :-/


Andrew Miller Says:

sar, totally agree. JJ taking it TO Dani. any word on why Djokovic perpetually panting out there?


jane Says:

Thanks Kimmi. Hmmm, sounds like Serena can probably handle Stosur, as Serena has such a solid serve, so Sam won’t have the same situation as today with Henin. I am sad Henin’s out; after she beat Sharapova, I was looking forward to Serena vs. Henin on clay.

JJ seems to have a firm grasp on this match now; she doesn’t usually dictate as much as she has in this scecond set. Lots of errors from Daniela too though; gosh she’s so tiny!


Polo Says:

I believe Henin “retired” because she could not handle the big girls’ power games. Then she saw how mentally weak most of them are and thought she may still have a chance to win the one missing trophy in her cabinet, the Wimbledon. This French showed she really has difficulty with power hitters. With some luck though, she may still win Wimbledon.


Andrew Miller Says:

JJ truly sensing the WIN now, going for the bagel on Hantuchova. Upsetting – fortunes really swung big time since 4-4 in the 1st set. Hantuchova now getting smashed.


Andrew Miller Says:

jane I agree on Daniela. I don’t mean to draw attention to the issue or her past, at the same time I feel it’s important to say it: she must have a serious condition. She’s the most wiry framed player on the tour and I feel it affects her performance, whatever it is that’s eating her.

JJ can go all day and all night. I dont think Daniela ever could.


Duro Says:

Sar, nice to see you again! Not as pleasant as live, but nice anyhow! Novak was excellent today. Don’t listen to these subjective guys. He’s gonna do a big thing this time! Nico Almagro + Nole and we’ll have Novak – Soda finals. It’s time for both Soda and Nico to win their maiden biggest nemesis encounter.

Andrew, it’s not his fitness. Something else is. His fitness is great believe it or not.


Andrew Miller Says:

If there were 5 WTA players with clever games that I wish could do better out there, would be:

Hantuchova
Zvonareva
Dokic
Szavay
Snyder P

so much talent, for one reason or another falls short, almost every time.


Andrew Miller Says:

Hi Duro, you’re right, something else big is eating Hantuchova, something serious. I just dont get it. I wish her luck and strength.


sar Says:

ESPN:Darren Cahill and woman with him talking about Djok in the third set and the lady said Djok is struggling with allergies, ASTHMA and other breathing problems.
Brad says Djok has to fix the problem he has or he will never win another major.


Andrew Miller Says:

Here’s another thing: why (save Ivanovic) no eastern european grand slam champs? Surprisingly few consistent challengers to the throne (other than great potential, met by unsatisfying results) since GASP Iva Majoli.


Duro Says:

Andrew, I was talking about Novak!


Polo Says:

If Djokovic were as fit at Nadal and Federer, he would be a real threat and make for a crowded three at the top. The negativity he has been showing of late may be out of frustration for not feeling well enough to grind it out indefinitely on court. It must be a horrible feeling to be sucking for air as you play.


Andrew Miller Says:

Sar, kind of agree with Brad Gilbert on Djokovic’s fitness! If it’s not there how does he get through Nadal/Federer/Roddick/Murray ?


Duro Says:

Andrew, how about Monica Seles? He came from Yugoslavia, you know…


Kimmi Says:

someone is in a qtr final of a major, he has a every chance of winning this tournament. sar: Djoko will prove them wrong , hey?


Duro Says:

Sorry, meant to say she, of course. Novi Sad, an hour from Belgrade, Serbia, Yugoslavia back then.


Andrew Miller Says:

Novak very well may ambush Nadal if both make it to the semis. So many doubts about Djokovic.


Kimmi Says:

wait a minute, unless brad gilbert is thinking like duro..Djoko will only reach the semi, ha!


Duro Says:

Kimmimmissimo lovisimmo! Thanks, again. You’re a heart.


Andrew Miller Says:

Seles, the Hungarian from Yugoslavia? Of course – one of my favorite players of all time! Her last big title was in 96, pre-Majoli’s 97 win right?


Caesar Says:

federer is 32-2 against the 3 guys remaining in his half!

add to it, fed has been in 18 of the last 19slam finals. to put it in perspective, sampras had 18slam finals and lendl 19 slam finals in career.

Federer is the king of tennis and nadal the king of clay, you can psych yourself about soderling’s chances, berdych’s chances or almagro’s chances and djokovic’s chances, but it all points to fedal-22.

novak is playing like a doofus! he has had the easiest of draws and yet he cant avoid long matches. everyone has the memo on him since roddick outed him at USopen 2008 and this guy still has fitness issues. come on novak, get tough!


Duro Says:

Andrew, so you have three of them. Add Martina from Czechoslovakia and there you go. A Poker of Eastern Grand Slam champions.


Duro Says:

Jesus, we forgot Sharpie…


Kimmi Says:

Duro..is that my nick name? what is that “simmo” mean? i think i love it.


Duro Says:

And Kusnetzova and…


Duro Says:

It’s Italian suffix to almost everything.


Kimmi Says:

OK..cool!


Andrew Miller Says:

The Aussie playing Shedova is awesome! I’ve never seen her play.


Duro Says:

It enhances adjectives. Like a comparative or something.


Andrew Miller Says:

I think I am pulling for the Aussie here, Groth. She plays a big game!


Duro Says:

Andrew, agree or not? Navratilova, Sharapova, Kusnetzova…


jane Says:

I liked Ginepri’s presser; he’s a level headed and laid-back guy. I truly wish the best for him going forward; he’s going to play Queens. He’s definitely talented and with this surgery and this deeper run, maybe he can have a renaissance. He’s just 27. And look at Melzer at 29 reaching his first slam Quarter final. Or Berdych finally reaching his first Quarter final. I like these kinds of comebacks and breakthroughs.


sar Says:

and Myskina 2004


sar Says:

Brad Miller, when Djok won the 4th set asked Drysdale if he thought Djok was acting (being sick.) Drysdale said Pat McEnroe thinks it’s all an act.


jane Says:

Please, don’t forget SAFIN!? Or are we talking only about the Eastern European women champs?


jane Says:

sar, who is Brad Miller?


Duro Says:

Oh, I meant to ask about Myskina! I wasn’t sure if she won any, though… forgot it, actually. She got pregnant and disappeared.

Sar, you’re not around as much. Preparing a dissertation like our friend? Be here!


Duro Says:

Ha, Jane old Jane, with her soft Safin spot…


Duro Says:

And I must tell you, Jane, he’s a hunk! Real man.
And don’t doubt my orientation. I’m strait! :-).


Skeezerweezer Says:

@nadline

true :)

@Ezorra

Sorry if i cross the line with your fav. I have a tendancy to do trash talk. My bad. I truly feel Rafa is great for the game, never said he wasn’t. I’ll behave :)


sar Says:

I mean Gilbert not miller.


Duro Says:

“Old” figuratively speaking, of course.


sar Says:

JJ is 2-1 over Shvedova


Andrew Miller Says:

Hi Duro, I kind of see the Russians as their own entity, maybe it’s just me. There seemed to be a Russian revolution, of which Sharapova was part. Hingis, though Czech, was also Swiss. Navratilova definitely, then Majoli and Seles; Hana Mandilikova too used to be a big player.


Andrew Miller Says:

I love the Russian players, they are definitely not one dimensional.


Duro Says:

But you said for Seles that she was Hungarian. Then you should consider Hingis as a Czech.

Anyway, if those countries were richer there would have been more GS women champions coming from there, most likely. Tennis is the most expensive sport there is. It takes about 300 000 Euros only to make a player, with no guarantees for any professional success afterwards.


Andrew Miller Says:

Hungarian is Eastern Europe, as was Yugoslavia; Hingis is swiss so, she’s western european like Federer, whose wife, Mirka, is Swiss of Slav descent.

Yup.!!

I agree Duro, sounds like a support thing – if there were more resources there would be more players. As it is, there are a bunch of players from each Eastern European country, but not like Russia or France, which just produces players in droves!

Why I’m so impressed with Federer – he didnt come out of a great system, but he was certainly among the most talented players.


Andrew Miller Says:

(ok so the Hungarians see themselves as Central Europe, the real deal: they’re eastern!)


Duro Says:

Andrew, nice chatting with you. Gotta go now. See you around.


Andrew Miller Says:

Duro, I FORGOT! How to forget the one and only Jana Novotna, Wimbledon Champ 1998.


gordon Says:

>But you said for Seles that she was Hungarian. Then you should consider Hingis as a Czech.

Then Aggasi is Iranian, Sampras is Greek, Daniel Nestor is Serbian and the list can grow…


jane Says:

Fed and Rafa are always hitting milestones: Congrats to Fed for 700 (!) match wins and Rafa for 200 (!) clay wins!


skeezerweezer Says:

Jane,

Nice post :). Didn’t know that. Great for both :)


contador Says:

hello everybody.

sorry for dropping out of existence but i am a working girl. Duro, only in my dreams am i a countess. hehehee

only saw the taped last half of federer/ wawa match. no doubt fed is improving but…

was odd to see wawa pounding his racquet into the clay. poor stan.

overall, i can’t imagine anyone beating rafa. bellucci didn’t do that bad against rafa but the handsome brazilian certainly didn’t appear to be enjoying himself out there.

rafa vs almagro is a joke. then djokovic or melzer? i’m fairly confident nole can beat melzer and make the semi final, but…why? i really don’t wish to have nole lose to nadal on clay again. let melzer have the honor.

sorry, Duro. you know i would LOVE nole to beat rafa.

rafa is in no mood to lose. i see how mad he looks when he loses a game. he won’t drop a set in this present form. in fact i am fairly convinced he will win not only RG but wimbledon too.

the top half is more interesting: dare i comment? what time is it in the UK? is madmax asleep? i love you Madmax!

i’ll reserve comment on federer and soda.

i’ll just say, maybe i was happy murray went out to berdych, to be honest. losing to federer again would not have been at all good for murray. this way, he’ll be in better mental shape for wimbledon and summer hc.

and there it is, my wimpy RG comments.

cheers.

go sam stosur! maybe i’ll become a wta fan, definitely if stosur can beat serena. but that would be a “huge ask.” like for djokovic to beat nadal in the semi’s. please!


skeezerweezer Says:

@Margot :) May 31st, 2010 at 2:30 am post,

“skeezer: r u American insomniac or European early bird?”

I like to call myself metro. I can be awake and asleep at the same time and anytime. My life consists of playing and watching tennis, working, drinking good Vino with a friend, having a beer or two with the guys after tennis, eating Marmite and toast in the morning ( a learned habit from Madmax )and writing to my friends on Tennis X, having good debates and finding new insights. The simple life…..:), but not necessarily in that order. TMI?


skeezerweezer Says:

Hi Contador,

Welcome back :). Enjoyed your “not so wimpy RG comments”


Purcell Says:

Oops, been away, missed this debate so disinclined to contribute in particularly thoughtful fashion. However I note the presence of Nadline….the artist formerly known as Carrie, and the star of Tennistrash…sorry Tennistalk.
Really can’t be bothered to reason with you Nadline other than to recommend that you follow the example of the many rational posters on this site who aren’t blinded by fandom, and who once again have risen to the occasion and shown respect in varying degrees to these hard-working sports people who give us such heart-stoppng entertainment.


Fot Says:

A lot of folks have been saying how great Robin is playing (and he is), and some are saying that Roger hasn’t been playing that great. Someone on another blog actually pointed this out:

Thinking about Roger and Robin Soderling tomorrow, I’m always surprised by how close their matches seem to be but aren’t – full of tie breaks that Roger nearly always wins. I did some stat checking for fun (!!!). In the last eight matches that they have played Roger has broken serve 21 times and been broken only twice. Soderling hasn’t broken Roger’s serve at all the last three times they have played – RG, Wimbledon and USO last year. That might all change tomorrow of course, but I wonder if there’s another player against whom it is so lopsided. So far at RG, Roger has been broken twice (Falla and Stan) and Soderling has been broken five times (Montanes and Cilic) and Rafa has been broken eight times (Bellucci, Hewitt and Zeballos). Soderling is the only one of three to have lost a set.

Hope I haven’t jinxed Roger for tomorrow – yikes.


Kimmi Says:

Fot good info..wishing good luck to Roger.

As always, this match freaks me out.

Helllloooo..conty. Missed you :)


contador Says:

hi skeezerweezer!

i don’t actually go ever go away from tennis. i keep an eye on it.

but now it’s serious. soda v federer. yikes!!!

will try to watch a livestream in the morning though. the problem is, it’s not like i can kick back, have a glass of wine and enjoy the match as i’m getting ready for work. nope.

then, i’m either a joy or a large pain in the arse all day. and i’ll be biatching all day you know if federer loses.

grow up, i know. but his semi streak is at stake or steak….lol….*nervous giggling*


jane Says:

Kimmi possibly good news regarding Berdych, whom you were more concerned about than Soda. Youz is 6-4 over Berdy, they’ve split their two clay matches and they’ve played only once in a slam (USO 04) which Tomas won. So Fed may not even face Berdych.

contador – nice to hear from you; hope you can be around for some of the matches.


Kimmi Says:

thanks jane, but looks like the berdy of this year is the different guy. We will see.

First thing first though, soda.
Tomorrow is slow conditions “again”. they predict the rain. so i don’t know how federer will be vs soda..we all know big hitter love these slow condition. berdych loved it over murray..to much time to line up those big forehands.


jane Says:

They’re not starting until 2:00 tomorrow; I wonder why so late? There are less matches, but in case of rain delays (if that’s the forecast) why not start at 12:00 or 12:30, just to be on the safe side?


skeezerweezer Says:

Hi Jane,

Is that 2:00pm Paris time? Tx :)


jane Says:

Oui Skeeze – Paris time. Soda v Fed’s on second, though, after the Woz and Schiav.


contador Says:

hey Kimmi and jane!

i have been swamped, my boat is taking on water, whatever metaphor works. but you have to know, for me to be away from tennis it’s baaaaad!

but i will sneak in some livestreaming for fed and nole matches. as i said i’m no thrilled about a nole v rafa semi.

and about roger v soda, i have been thinking about their match last us open. i distinctly remember that roger’s first serve was a weapon in their match and also recall thinking that without it, soda woulda coulda.

not good for federer because his first serve % is improved but not as it was on grass or hc last summer.

another thing i remember about federer’s us open was that after the effort to beat soderling, pulling out the first serve weapon, his serve went away. he didn’t need it against nole for the semi, for reasons having more to do with djoko, it seemed, who was resigned to lose or something. against delpo federer’s serving and movement was not great. he was tired and all credit to delpo, delpo capitalized after getting over his nerves. federer was netting his first serves. it was not the federer who won against roddick at wimbles or murray in cincy. federer in cincy looked like 2006.

so this is clay and not as comparable but federer’s serve is not “on.” i would feel better about the soderling match if it was. federer is still the favorite but……eeeegads. soderling is going to be tough tomorrow.


Kimmi Says:

conty – federer is not serving too bad here. But the slow clay always negate the big serves..soda is a big returner, so we will see.

I think it will be a tough match too…I will just follow the score board though and watch it recorded later.


Von Says:

Ezorra: I know it’s difficult to overlook the negativity, but don’t pay any attention to it. Take heart, just look at what is thrown out at Roddick and myself without any kind of instigation. Didn’t you see the mindless post about the names you placed next to each other? Someone was salivating to begin trash talking by using innuendoes and casting aspersions. I had a choice to answer and/or ignore, and I chose the latter. That nonsense was started a year ago, and is still being perpetuated, but the group likes it. Remember, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the one and/or few.

Anyway, I expect to see you rising above the ikn sults, and keep on posting.

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