Nadal Gets Murray Rematch in Wimbledon Semifinals; Djokovic v. Berdych
by Sean Randall | July 1st, 2010, 7:44 pm
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So who’s the pick in the Friday Wimbledon semifinals? Both men’s matches are really dead even and very tough to call. On first of course is Tomas Berdych v. Novak Djokovic, followed by the marquee matchup all of England will be watching between Andy Murray and Rafael Nadal. The winners meet Sunday for the Wimbledon title. Now for the breakdown and the picks:

Tomas Berdych v. Novak Djokovic
These two power sluggers are meeting for the third time, but this clash is by far their biggest and most important. Djokovic got Berdych twice on hard courts and both times in straight sets a few years ago.

Berdych, however, is a much better player right now than he was just a year ago, but is Djokovic? I’m not so sure.

Novak had a great win beating Lleyton Hewitt on Monday and he then rolled over Yen Hsun Lu in the 16s. He’s also got wins over Olivier Rochus in five sets along with Taylor Dent and Albert Montanes. But today Djokovic faces his first real power baseline player. And this one is hot.

Berdych is playing the best tennis of his life right now. The 24-year-old just reached his first career Grand Slam semifinal at the French Open last month, and on Wednesday he pocketed what was arguably the biggest win of his career ending Roger Federer’s Wimbledon reign in awfully convincing fashion.

So both players seem to be hitting thier stride at the right time, and both have beaten former champions this week. But I give a little more credit to Berdych for taking care of Federer than I do Djokovic for his win over Hewitt and Lu.

Berdych is also serving bigger and I think hitting the ball better and cleaner overall. And he’s playing again at 1pm on Centre Court, the same time and same location as when he beat Federer yesterday. That familiarity and his confidence should be enough to get him through.

Novak also has the pressure of being the guy who’s been there before. And he’s the slight favorite. But he really hasn’t had that many big time wins in big moments this season. Berdych has. Berdych in four.

Andy Murray v. Rafael Nadal
We’ve been waiting over five months for this rematch. Back in Melbourne Murray had his way with Nadal before the Spaniard retired when down in the third set. Murray was playing well enough that day that he would have won regardless of Nadal’s knee.

Nadal is now healthy and playing much better tennis than he did at the start of the year. And the Spaniard is back at the No. 1 ranking following his Clay Sweep which culminated in his fifth French Open title last month.

Murray is also improving. After being stuck in a slump post Australian Open, the Scot seems to have rebounded in nick of time during this Wimbledon. And coming into the Final Four round Murray has lost just one set. Just one! So you could make the case he’s been playing the best of anyone this week.

But Nadal leads the overall head-to-head 7-3 and after a very shaky week 1 for Rafa which included 5-set Houdini acts against Robin Haase and Phil Petzchner, Nadal seems to have emerged an even stronger player.

On Wednesday, Nadal tore through an in-form Robin Soderling, and the Swede acknowledged that Rafa was playing a different, more aggressive brand of tennis. And that’s important because if Rafa’s going for his shots and Murray’s scrambling trying to play defense as we’ve seem him do before, then Rafa’s going to win. And I think that’s what’s going to happen.

We’ve seen Murray’s act before. He looks unbeatable early on only to fall apart at the worst times. He did it last year in the semifinal against Roddick when he went into passive mode. He did at the US Open against Cilic. And he did it again in that Australian Open final. And my guess is that Friday he’ll again revert to trying to beat an offensive-minded player via defense. Unfortunately that’s not going to work against someone like Nadal.

We’ll see which Murray shows up. If it’s the passive, stubborn one then Nadal in five.


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490 Comments for Nadal Gets Murray Rematch in Wimbledon Semifinals; Djokovic v. Berdych

stu Says:

I guess a Nole-Muzza final it is then! :)


zola Says:

stu,
right on!

Sean, you have quite a reputation now! lol!

I am waiting to see how Rafa will play against Murray. Andy is a tough matchup for Rafa. After their match in AO 2007, Rafa lost to Gonzo in straights and had a back injury. In AO 2010 he retired with bad knees. It is because he has to run so much.

I hope the match ends in 3 sets and both players stay healthy. This is going to be 50-50. Rafa is No 1 and is here to win. Murray has the expectations of a nation on his shoulders.

Both Rafa and Andy are great guys and have lots of respect for one another. One thing is certain , there will be no loser in this match. Hope they both stay healthy and hope the winner can win the trophy.


Boomba Says:

I think Andy Murray will win, he only lose one set. It shows that he is in very good form. Now his game sharper and more consistent, no doubt he will finish in 3 sets.


skeezerweezer Says:

@ zola,

Hey there Rafa – ite! ha! Feder – ite here. Oh thats right, can’t talk about him, he’s on vacation :)

Good objective post from a Rafa fan. I like it :)

I Salute you!

@daPosters

I think Nole has a better ground game than Fed right now, whoa shock! So if Nole gets a look at some second serves, AND he holds his service game, Nole wins. He can win this match!

Murry/Rafa? Only one solution for Murray. Serve well, play some good defense, but play mostly aggressive offense. Murray has had a history of playing Rafa’s serve well. I am not worried about Murray’s game matching up against Rafa. I am worried of the state of mind and pressure from playing for his country. Heart is with Andy but Rafa is a stud right now. If you looked at a Rafa’s playing chart from the start of the Clay season till now? A friggin straight line up. Oh, I forgot, a little blip in the radar at Queens. Fugggit aboutit!

Andy? Play that tactical game that worked so well in AO dude! It’s on!


blank Says:

Sean,

Why do you think the defensive Murray will show up? He very well know how he beat Rafa at the AO, certainly not playing defense. So it’s a no brainer for Murray to just play that way tomorrow. Whether it is as effective as it was at the AO, that’s an entirely different question and will be answered tomorrow. Here is hoping that he can and doing so upend Rafa.

Onto the next match, I am with Skeezer here. Nole will play a way better return game and with way more powerful and effective groundstrokes than Federer, who IMO, was just pathetic. Berdy is certainly not going to get slow balls falling on the center of the court that he can just tee off for a winner. And for that reason, assuming Nole doesn’t collapse due to illness or serve or whatever, I think Berdy will lose. I am more confident about this match than the Nadal-Murray one.


skeezerweezer Says:

@Blank

Shammmmooooon!


Kimmi Says:

Contador,

I saw your post on another thread. and as usual, you are giving rafa the trophy already. hmmm, you have been spot on so far..i am hoping you get this one wrong though.

Oh hardcourts it would probably be a little easier for murray but on grass i am not so sure. but hey, i can still hope…GO MUZZA!


sar Says:

Thanks Sean, Nole will win.


Wimbledon Champ Says:

http://tennisworld.typepad.com/thewrap/2010/07/the-return-of-reality.html

Leave it to Steve, to give some much needed perspective. Good article on Roger man.

As for the semis, Djokovic will show what Federer would have done if he had his forehand on. I just hope he doesn’t do a repeat of the nonsense at AO or FO. Djokovic should win this match in 4 and has the match on his racquet. If he serves miserably and has breathing, stomach or allergy or whatever issues, all bets are off.

Murray-Nadal, murray is playing much better than nadal. murray will not be giving rafa breathing space on nadal’s serve games like others did. Contrary to what most people say, murray’s chances increase as the match gets longer. Who knows when those knees will give out? A good 4hour match will tell us the true state of the knees. Murray wins this, but Rafa is a 7time GS champ, so his winning will not be a surprise.


Kimmi Says:

sean, you got 2 out of 4 right in the qtr final.

lets say you continue with this trend, it will be 1 out of 2, right? we will see

still waiting to eat that hat.


Wimbledon Champ Says:

It is sad that Roger is joining nadal and djokovic with these injury news. ai ai ai Roger. You have 2 more strikes before you join nadal and djokovic in the trunk.

Murray, hewitt and roddick still in the funk. :)


blank Says:

Skeezer,

Shammmooonnn to you too!!

After Fed’s loss in the quarterfinals, hastily I cancelled my Friday vacation. Now I rue that. How stupid of me, it’s going to be an interesting day tomorrow :-(


contador Says:

Kimmi- : ) nice to see you as always.

i am not happy about my picks at all. but, it is what it is: my picks.

i have to pick by what i have seen and rafa is very convincing. i mean even if the guy is down a set or someone is taking him the distance, rafa is just going to win.

i would love, love, love to be wrong.

i wish for murray to win the whole thing. roddick was my hope to win. hoping he would be in the form he was last year and cos he’s old and may never get another chance, and he fought so hard last year, plus he’s known to have a good grass game, my first pick, even over federer was roddick. actually the notion of federer winning wasn’t ever in my mind.

murray was my next hope after roddick ( it would be cool for england to get their wimbledon champ )

nole is right after murray. actually i thought nole would be #1 by this time when watching him last october. unfortunately he has had health issues during clay season and not playing his best. plus, i am not convinced about his draw preparing him for berdych or if he gets past berdych, nadal.

my picks are not what i want. and this will not go down as my favorite wimbledon if berdych and nadal are in the final.

but that is exactly what i think will happen. it will be as dull as the FO final but eye candy for a nadal fan. hey, they deserve their day. i may not enjoy watching nadal’s tennis but millions around the world do and the bird will get his butt kicked…nadal will bite the trophy.

and all this is being typed by a very tired and road weary contador sounding like eeyore….oh me, oh my, no, not again. : (


Kimmi Says:

Conty – tired. oh no..you must rest.

unfortunately, i have to agree with you.

you know what conty, I now think you have a great tennis brain on picking winners..ha ha. I should get your advice on the next bracket challenge :-)

You see, i could not see federer losing to berdy but you did. likewise I had some hope for soda pop..should have listen to you.

now for muzza..oh noooo. you will get this one wrong conty. You will definetly do. yes you will…

have a good night. :)


contador Says:

and about the number of sets? i got my picks right, Kimmi but knowing the sets and scores is a such wild guess!

berdych in 5. nole is gonna fight to win but…just not convinced he can keep his level up for a long fight with berdych.

hope i am wrong and novak dictates the points, makes berdych run, run, run…serves well and at the right moments, all of it.

be a champ nole! prove me wrong!

and GO MUZZA!

but nadal in 4.

the end, Kimmi. and i’m gonna try and be awake to watch me make a fool of myself for my picks…..* fingers crossed* i probably will get to see nole v berdy live on ESPN2 since it’s on early. then, i’ll have to run out the door and will miss nadal – murray….

i’ll come home for lunch and be jumping up and down if i find muzza won, shaaamoooooon!!!

if muzza somehow beats nadal, i believe he’ll win his grand slam.


contador Says:

hahaha

thanks for that laugh, Kimmi!

next year i start that ATP bracket challenge in earnest, lol….i want the trip for two to london!

speaking of ernests…..oh do i miss him…..delpo too. the atp draw is so much more interesting with them; also davy and nalby.

ready to see dolgo again too. not sure if he’s as good on hc as he is on clay. he should be. i dunno.

see you in the morning, Kimmi GO MUZZA! : )


Dan Martin Says:

I think Novak wins in 3 or 4 and Murray wins in 4. Murray’s ability to put so many quality returns in play takes away some of Nadal’s ability to grind. Instead Nadal struggles to hold vs. Murray (when Andy is on) and that energy is not used to wear down Murray.


Kimmi Says:

there is no “if” contador. it is “when” muzza wins, i will joining you in the jumping. eating my hat at the same time.

will watch both matches live tomorrow. I am off again.

Have not watched nole matches so still don’t know how he played. But I agree with you about not been tested enough..who knows, still see him winning though.


Seth Says:

I hope Djokovic wins tomorrow and wins again on Sunday. For that to happen, his head sure needs to be screwed on straight. No gamesmanship, no distractions with mysterious injuries/illnesses. Just solid, effective first-strike tennis like we’ve all seen him play before and play superbly.

Go Nole!


stu Says:

Not sure I agree with Bolletieri’s analysis. It’s almost like someone forced him to write an article on Novak and he put down the first 3 things that came to mind. Health? Was he watching the match against Hewitt? Confidence – yea maybe I’ll give him that but he’s also fickle no? Knock-out punch? Oh please.

i’d say there’s more desire this Wimbledon for sure. we’ll see what happens tomorrow…


johhny Says:

Novak will outsmart Berdy, and will keep him on the run and finish him off. Nole’s return will be much harder to penetrate. Nole in 3 or 4.


Max Says:

Murray in 3, Nole in 4.


Colin Says:

Why are all the Murray/Rafa comparisons mentioning this year’s AO? How about the USO semi-final when Murray won? Nadal was not at his best? True, but he isn’t at his best now!
I dare say Nadal is the logical favorite, but I’m quietly optimistic about Murray’s chances. How’s that for fence-sitting?
As for the other semi, Sean talks of “two power sluggers. I wouldn’t have thought Nole was classed as a power slugger.


ánima Says:

After reading the previous posts, I feel a bit like a maverick, but I think Nadal will win in 4 or 5 and Berdych in 4…


Huh Says:

No way I’m gonna like Nole and Murray losing today!

C’MON NOLE!

C’MON MUZZA!

THIS IS YOUR CHANCE TO SHOW US THAT YOU’RE GREAT ON GRASS TOO!


Huh Says:

I’d say Nole’s racquet is gonna determine who’ll win hos match. If the real Novak Djokovic shows up, then and ONLY THEN, it can be bye bye Berdych, if not, then Nole’ll be in big trouble. I don’t think Berdych’s gonna go down without a fight, so Nole better be battle-alert and focussed throughout the match. But honestly speaking, I really dunno what’ll happen in the Nole-Berdy match. I’m not gonna bet my money on either of them, I am that much unsure about the outcome.

Now, coming to the Muzza-Rafa match, I think Rafa has the edge in this match(Mainly coz of form. But also coz it’s WIM grass on which Rafa is both great as well as actually loves playing in, unlike Muzza, who constantly keeps claiming that WIM is not his fave surface and yadda yadda. Moreover I don’t think Muzza beating Rafa three times in a row’s in GSs is gonna happen). Thus I’m going to bet my money on Rafa’s win here, even though I’d love for Murray to take the next step here and win his first slam.


Huh Says:

And regarding the women’s tennis, I am just gonna say, the finalist would be fortunate to take a set from Serena, let alone the match. I’m gonna bet all of my ancestral as well as acquired property on Serena winning the 5th WIM!


Eskay Says:

Muzza may employ the same tactics against Rafa in the beginning that won him the clash at A.O. Particularly serve and volley after serving to Rafa’s backhand, especially on the ad court. Also hit to forehand corner of Rafa. He will play to Rafa’s backhand as much as he did to Tsonga’s. Rafa will play all court game, not particularly targeting Muzza’a backhand, since Muzza is quite strong there. But then that is also Rafa’s bread and butter shot. Inside out is generally reserved for a fierce winner. Since Muzza returns all the balls, Rafa will have to go for more winners to the lines, committing more unforced errors. Although Rafa may not get too much affected by the partisan crowd, his rate of conversion of break points is likely to be poor. It will not be a straight sets result, and both will run like hare till the last ball, even if it is fifth.


Dory Says:

Since RF is out now, my next dearest darling is Nole. He’s got such a great great game and good h2h against most players. I would cry with joy if he were to win Wimbledon! May the one who would lose against Nole in the final win in the Nadal-Murray match. Nole grab your Wimbledon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Who do you think guys would be more difficult for Nole to beat?


margot Says:

My fellow Andy fans, the time has come, we’re in for a bumpy ride, hold on tight! If anyone says to me that Andy does not have the heart and the skills to be a mighty champion, then I will scoff at them, but does he have the mind? Rafa’s greatest asset is his extraordinary concentration and determination that makes him play each point, from the first to the last, with equal intensity. Dear lord, Andy fans have seen him dip and soar within a single point, leave alone a game, a set, a match.
So Andy, be strong, be focused, be skilful. Serve well and take your lovely game to Rafa and then you will win. Show me you have the heart and spirit of a true champion.
Two more points 1) tactically if he wins the toss Rafa puts his opponents in first, quite often nervy and tight they lose their serve. This is what happened to Haasse. Interesting to see today.
Andy always starts very slowly and needs to play himself into the match.
2)Rafa, throughout his career has been the hunter, a role that, judging from press conferences he likes very much. From now on he will be the hunted, constantly looking over his shoulder, am not sure he’ll like it so much, we’ll see.
Not concise today grendel, but commeth the hour


Kimmi Says:

margot – great post. all fingers crossed.


tenisbebe Says:

Margot – Good luck to your man today. You have to be oh so excited. The press must be going nuts.


tenisbebe Says:

FYI Darren Cahill’s picking Berdy, Brad Gilbert the Djoker.


margot Says:

hi kimmi! everything is crossed!
tennisbebe: how nice to see you again and thank you. Yes, excitement is almost an understatement from press and me! Becaus of the time difference I kind of missed it for the AO.
Good luck to Djko, no hystrionics please today, just talent. In spite of Big Bird having nicest smi;e on tour.
Experts completely split on both matches.


tenisbebe Says:

margot – yes both matches should be crackers!


Dory Says:

Take the bird out Nole.


Dory Says:

So many errors both doing early today.


contador Says:

here we go!

oh man. the djoko got the bird to deuce but birdie clobbered two aces to hold serve.

AJDE!


dari Says:

I’ll usually say I want the guy who beat my guy to win, and i’ll stick to that. Sooo, Berdy you beat fed, so back it up and beat nole. I do really like nole, though, I just do worry about his health and I’d hate to see anything like that in a Wimbledon final. I feel a little bad having little faith in him like that, I’d be glad to be proven wrong!
Berd’s my man , then.
For matxh #2, I am undoubtedly cheering for MURRAY.
I like the way he is playing right now, and loved the aggressive AO match he played this year. If he beats rafA, he can beat either of the other two. Get em, murray!


Kimmi Says:

wow, djoko see a little chance, the berdy comes up with 2 big serves, must be frustrating..


Kimmi Says:

break point?


contador Says:

berdych moves better, much better than soda pop.

uh oh break. tomas broke. 4-2


tenisbebe Says:

Early Break chance for the Byrd


Kimmi Says:

first blood to the berdy. oh my.


Dory Says:

Ah crap! Nole broken so easily.


Dory Says:

Nole doing too many UEs.


Kimmi Says:

poor game by the djoker there, nerves? he had berdy to 15-30, had a look at second serves hmmmm


contador Says:

c’mon nole, break back!

dari, i do too. i mean cheer for the guy who beat my guy but i love the djoko. haven’t always but he has charmed me into a fan. and i want him to get his champion game back.

djoko is so sweet. maybe too nice on court.

ahh no! djoko is missing too many groundies


contador Says:

well no he didn’t break back that time but he’s got another chance coming up.

djoko serving aces.


dari Says:

Wow, I go away for 10 mins this is what happens?!
I have to say it, up at 8 am for matches ain’t the same without roger. 8 am ain’t that early, but I was bright awake and partying by 810 for the fed matches, I’m still a boot snoozey on this one!


contador Says:

POW! the big czech can hammer an ace down as hard as soda pop.


dari Says:

Wow, Berd!


Gannu Says:

It feels so empty without federer.. Since 2004 Wimby i have realised that i so eagerly used to look fwd for every final sunday and except one 2008 Aussie fed has been there and now to simply not see him for two consecutive slams is such a horrible feeling!!! Really guess i should get used to this… Tennis is not fun without you federer ;-(( Sorry to digress… Hope Berdych takes the tournament


Kimmi Says:

isn’t that the quickest set to the berdy? probably 30 minutes. djoko needs regrouping.


Dory Says:

Why did Nole have to self destruct? I am getting worried. He gives up quickly sometimes.


tenisbebe Says:

Woo – 1st set done. Berdy’s FH is smokin.


stu Says:

yes, thats my worry too – that he’s already starting to look defeated…


margot Says:

Ooh Djko’s tight isn’t he? He needs to loosen up quick or Big Birds gonna squash him.


contador Says:

nope, Gannu. it isn’t the same without federer. but our man has 6 of these trophies. let’s give him a break this year, even while he continues to play tennis and not the federer game we are used to watching. fed’s gonna regroup. you know he’s watching this match just like we are. i imagine he’s planning, getting inspired, wishing he was on the court out there.

fed has to find his speed and get the power again. what do i know? but he has to figure out how he’ll counter the likes of berdych.

great serve from noleeeeee!


Kimmi Says:

o-30 for djoko..big chnce here


Kimmi Says:

berdy gets time violation warning? hmmmm


contador Says:

c’mon djoko!

bird gets a time warning? where’s this umpire when nadal is playing.

i don’t think that was fair.


Kimmi Says:

break point djoko


contador Says:

but nole has break point1


contador Says:

er, HAD bp, make that.


dari Says:

Thoughts on Berdych’s game? He is not so mindless/inadaptive and slow as soderling. He isn’t as error prone right now either. He’s really breaking people, so the return game ain’t shabby. Hmmm


Kimmi Says:

berdy playing big points so well..wow! just impressive.


Kimmi Says:

berdy..woooooo 2 break points


contador Says:

you are right dari.

i enjoyed that exchange of slices. you don’t see soda doing that.

soda need to add more to his power game. berdych moves so much better than soda too.


contador Says:

djoko bring that forehand!!!


dari Says:

Berdy, I’m like, in tennis love. Nice fh, nole.


Kimmi Says:

saved


contador Says:

*clapping wildly*

great hold nole!!


Kimmi Says:

important save for djoko..or it would have been over


contador Says:

not a good lob, nole.


tenisbebe Says:

Berdy’s FH is just too accurate & penetrating right now. Djoker is expending alot of energy just to hold in this game.


Dory Says:

Nole really playing weird today. Not his usual shots.


contador Says:

3 all.

djoko has to win this set. period.


tenisbebe Says:

I’m glad Berdy’s not falling for the dropper. Berdy’s not allowing Djoko to play his game. Very impressive performance so far. Duro, Sar are you there?


contador Says:

my stomach is turning.

i’m like in the kind of state i get watching gulbis here.

noleeee! this is a must take 2nd set! c’mon!


contador Says:

30 all

nole has a chance here….maybe


contador Says:

what a weapon, that berdych first serve.


Dory Says:

Djoker’s game broken down. :(


Kimmi Says:

berdy winning second serves 60% against a great returner..is his 2nd serve that good?


Kimmi Says:

ha ha ha sooo nerve wracking


stu Says:

if Nole does win this, i hope he doesn’t just scrape it out. he needs to win with authority, what the hell is his problem today?


contador Says:

i don’t know Kimmi. i think berdych can do it all.

but nole must take this set. break him now!!


contador Says:

unbelievable point, showing how well bird can move.


Kimmi Says:

easy power on that FH


tenisbebe Says:

Nole has no answer (yet) for Berdy’s FH and serve. He’s been in practically every one of Nole’s serve games but not so the other way. Starting to have breathing issues and bouncing the ball more on his serve, both signs of nerves.


Kimmi Says:

danger zone


tenisbebe Says:

Que bella!! What a point at 0-30 from Berdy.


contador Says:

OMG

what a blistering cross-court two hander back hand from bird in that game. wow….

*shaking my head*


contador Says:

nole giving it his all to break back!


contador Says:

novak is fighting hard to break back! he knows he can’t lose this 2nd set.


Dory Says:

O M G! What a point.


Kimmi Says:

berdy nervous here


Dory Says:

YAY YAY YAY!! The big bird is broken!!


Kimmi Says:

tie break


dari Says:

Whoaaaaaa! I love tennis. Tie break it is!


contador Says:

turning point????

oh my stomach. great game, that one!


Kimmi Says:

what a movement there by berdy..great point


tenisbebe Says:

Perhaps now we will have a match, but I doubt Djoko will come up with an answer to Berdy.


contador Says:

bird can volley too.


Kimmi Says:

wow, berdy the way he is playing, just sooooo impressive


contador Says:

i can’t breathe


dari Says:

Berdych’s coverage is impressing me right now. And finishes the next shot at net to boot.


contador Says:

that’s it djoko! c’mon win this tie break


contador Says:

haha

dari, are you a new berdych fan?


Dory Says:

How many times has he come back from 2 sets to 0?


contador Says:

uhhhhhhhg

still set point berdych


Kimmi Says:

is that chocking or what? can’t be choking..


dari Says:

Contador, sorry for your distress. I only feel such things with roger, but I imagine with Murray i’ll feel it today too. You gotta love how Berdy is playing though. Whoops except for that!


contador Says:

did berdych just choke there? he had what, 3 set points?


blank Says:

Come on Nole!!

Never before have I rooted for Djoko like I am doing now.


Kimmi Says:

what a point…replay point.


Dory Says:

Unfair! Replay the point my foot!


contador Says:

serve an ace!


dari Says:

Holy smokes Berd and nole!


contador Says:

he made it!!!!!!!!

novak djokovic!


Kimmi Says:

saving 4 sets points..the berdy is feeling it


contador Says:

berdych is gonna choke here….maybe


Kimmi Says:

set point djoko..wow, what a change of momentum this set will be


contador Says:

i’m gonna hurl


yy Says:

this will be the turning point of the match if djokovic takes the set.


contador Says:

another chance nole


Kimmi Says:

BH down the line not going in for berdy


contador Says:

8 all


contador Says:

set point djoko


yy Says:

the way things are going. it seems like djokovic is fated to take this set. all those missed chances.


contador Says:

berd can’t get a first serve


contador Says:

but gets the forehand winner, berdych

9 all


yy Says:

the outcome of this set could determine the match. nerve wrecking. lol


contador Says:

then a berd ace. set point bird


Dory Says:

Too many lost opportunities Nole. Most disappointing match.


yy Says:

had to go in a double fault. bleah…

would be a titanic match if djokovic can take this to 5.


contador Says:

ahhhhh no.

nole DF

bird has 2 sets.

this will take a miracle for nole. : (


yy Says:

Actually, Berdych had the upper hand throughout most of the set… losing this one would have turned the entire match to Djokovic’s side.


dari Says:

Such a sh***y way to end a great set, djoko. You just killed your box and your fans. Probably yourself, too. Sorry, bud.


contador Says:

can’t blame novak for breaking a racquet after that heart braker


Kimmi Says:

DF..NOT COOL. berdy now seing the light


margot Says:

I cannot believe this! Fabulous play by Djko in the tie break then he loses it on a double fault. Really scary thing is D is serving gr8(usually) and getting those huge first serves back AND losing.


contador Says:

this isn’t over!


dari Says:

Anybody woulda broken a racquet! Thx for a great TB, boys!


Dory Says:

Looking at today’s performance so far, I’d say Nole doesn’t deserve the No. 2 ranking.


tenisbebe Says:

THIS IS OVER. Fantastic TBer. Both got tight, but one could afford to, the other no.


contador Says:

nole is not giving up.


contador Says:

what a match!


Dory Says:

Even if Nole wins, if he does as many UEs as today, he can never win the final.


contador Says:

no. djoko is gonna take this set!


contador Says:

true.

neither would beat rafa.

their only hope is that muzza either wins or is able to wear rafa down.

i don’t think so.


contador Says:

ungodly return from bird


contador Says:

djoko is hanging on


Huh Says:

I was rooting so much for Nole, darn Berdych! ;-(


contador Says:

but his second serve is weak.

he has to serve the aces! nole!


Kimmi Says:

i think berdy has a great chance in the final who ever he plays..he is a changed man now..


Dory Says:

This entire season, Nole’s serve goes but his game doesn’t. Today even when he was serving well initially, his game never showed up.


contador Says:

i though soda v berd was a dull match.

berd v djokovic? has been great. it’s a stomach turner though.

have to go : (

i’ll hope nole takes this set and pulls out the win!

GO MUZZA!!


blank Says:

Kimmi,

I am not so sure. Berdy will be eaten like dinner by Nadal…just as he did with Soderling. But if it’s Murray he is meeting in the finals (assuming Berdy makes it in the first place), that may be more even as they are both yet to win a GS.


contador Says:

nole will take this set!!


contador Says:

i think the ump is hot, kinda….lol..

i gotta laugh a little about something…


dari Says:

County! The ump is kinda hot. Is competing with rog for best hair. See ya!


Kimmi Says:

conty – have a good day. YES, GO MUZZA

blank – looks like Nadal is the man to beat right now..we will see.


dari Says:

Thats supposed to say conty! Not county. What I get for not typing it all out!


Dory Says:

Double double fault! Epic fail. This guy should not be in the top 5.


yy Says:

Djokovic is gone I think… would take a miracle now.


Kimmi Says:

contador – about the umpire, got to look again hmmmm

break point..oh my..or is it match point

Double fault at the opportune moment. djoko is rattled. I am afraid “THIS IS IT”


Dory Says:

This has got to be Nole’s worst performance in a Slam match ever even though he’s lost earlier in Slams before.


Huh Says:

Disappointing. :(


Dory Says:

Carlos Ramos was always hot.


yy Says:

Djokovic is OUT!!!!


Dory Says:

I have no one left to support now. And I doubt I will support Nole ever. Hope Berdych or Murray wins but NOT Nadal.


Huh Says:

Nole has undeniable Safinesque mentality. :/


blank Says:

Oh no!


margot Says:

So sorry all you Djko fans, so very disappointing, but without doubt Big Bird is the real deal.


Kimmi Says:

Easy straight set..wow!

durosssimoooo – this bird just eat the cat..must be the EAGE? or maybe the cat is still a little kitten hmmm

berdych wimbledon champ 2010?

sean– re prediction. one down, one to go.

GO MUZZA


JCZ Says:

He got pasted. Straight sets, who would have thought.


yy Says:

Hard to pick between Murray and Nadal, but the better story would be for UK to have Murray in the finals and winning it.

Either way would be happy. Happy Djokovic is out.


Huh Says:

MRS. MARGOT:

TIME FOR ME NOW TO START PRAYING AND CHEERING FOR MURRAY NOW.

C’MON MUZZA!!!


stu Says:

Dory: Nole’s worst performance in a Slam? ref. FO 2010 QF.


Kimmi Says:

unfortunately djoko was outplayed today. and those double faults at big point did not help.

sorry all my djoko fans friends. this was a great chance for him to make the final. better try next time.


Huh Says:

This one was a predator Berd, but rest assured, if he meets “the black panther” in the final, he would most happily crunch and munch on him.


blank Says:

Ok Nole. Come back stronger for the hardcourt season. Congrats Berdy. But you are not going to win this thing.


dari Says:

Berd CAN win it all. If Murray doesn’t get rid of nadal, then I will be staunchly supporting big Berd in the final. If the final ends up Berd and murray I’m gonna have a tough time choosing who to cheer!
For now and for real:
MURRAY MURRAY MURRAY!


Dory Says:

@stu, at least he took 2 sets against Melzer in that QF.


dari Says:

MUZZA MUZZA MUZZA!


margot Says:

kimmi, huh, dari: hold my hand please…deep breathing and needing support…
BTW: Boris and Tracy both picked Berdie to win….and Andy!! Let’s hope they have a 100% success record.


Kimmi Says:

margot – i have your hand. wont let go.

C’MOOON MUZZA


Huh Says:

COMMISERATIONS TO NOLE FANS. WISHING HIM BETTER LUCK FOR THE FUTURE. I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS NOLE LOST IS WAS HIS OBVIOUS UNIMPRESSIVE MOVEMENT ON GRASS. NOLE REALLY COULDA DONE BETTER HERE IF HE MOVED BETTER.


Duro Says:

Kimmi, I said cats adore birds, not condors!
My cat has bean completely eaten today. I tried my best, but… Very, very disappointing.

People, never be a fan of anyone. They all end the same in the end…

Goodbye all.


Huh Says:

“BTW: Boris and Tracy both picked Berdie to win….and Andy!! Let’s hope they have a 100% success record.”

I HOPE SO TOO.


margot Says:

Thanx kimmi darling!


Huh Says:

DURO:

DON’T BE SO DISAPPOINTED. HOPEFULLY YOU WILL SOON FEEL BETTER.


Huh Says:

I’M ALSO HOLDING YOUR HANDS AND LEGS MRS.MARGOT! I’M EVEN HOLDING MY HEART!


Huh Says:

BEST OF LUCK MUZZA!!!
MAY ALL THE POWER AND POSITIVE VIBES OF THE WORLD BE WITH YOU!


jane Says:

Congrats to Berdy; bummer for Nole. : ( At least he went one round better than last year. Berd has been coming into his own all year, and since the semis at the FO slipped away, I knew it’d be hard for Nole to get past him here. Didn’t see match but enjoyed reading the play-by-play here.

GO Murray!! I hope he can win it all! That would be HUGE. Fingers crossed. But Rafa is so tough, Murray will have to play his bestest!

And then Berdy was Murray’s vanquisher at the FO, but mind you that wasn’t a final.

Anyhow if Murray and Berd are in the final, we get a new slam champion, no matter what.


Huh Says:

I’m unable to even breathe! :/


Kimmi Says:

looks like we wont see murray v nadal live..back to my laptop


Huh Says:

GO MURRAY!!!


Ike Says:

Congrats Tomas!


sar Says:

Crap serve again but overpowered by Berdych. This might be Berd’s year similar to Ljubicic at IW. Federer, Djokovic, and….


Dory Says:

Which country is this where you don’t get to see Grand Slam semi finals live on TV?


margot Says:

Bless you huh! I can’t beathe either. Crikey. Hold on tight! Have just seen David Beckham in the crowd, think he’s got oldest son with him, of course they both have same agent now, doubt if their best friends.
Hi jane, you can hold my hand too.


Dory Says:

Murray HAS TO WIN IT!! Nadal is trying to get to half of RF’s Slams!


yy Says:

Go Nadal!!! But would be nice to see Murray in the final. Maybe the celebrity support could help him like how Pierce Brosnan inspired Bartoli years ago. lol.


Ike Says:

@ Ms.Margot,
If I remember correctly, you are British, right?
I kind of remember someone’s comment during French Open, saying how Murray needs to stand up and fight, and he could do great in the Wimbledon.
Probably, that guy was quite right.
Let’s see if Murray can beat Rafa, I hope so.


sar Says:

Golding and Robson out of Juniors. It’s up to Murray for Brits now.


Ike Says:

One question for all, which Murray will show up today? The confident / aggressive one or the defensive (like the one against Roddick last year) one?


jane Says:

Grasping tightly margot; won’t be able to stay long, but my heart and spirit are with Murray to the end today. I want to see him holding that Wimbledon trophy on Sunday!!


dari Says:

I must be so dense. I could NOT figure out why they were playing the women’s match. WTH?
everyone, let’s make this Murray magic happen! Aaaaaaahhhhh!


Ike Says:

Great start Andy!


Kimmi Says:

dory – its Canada. we have ESPN feed today and they are showing repeat of serena right now. NBC starts in an hr. maybe that will be live, have to wait. bummer.


jane Says:

Why isn’t this live on TV/ESPN???? I am in my hotel and they aren’t showing it, but are showing Serena reply? WHY? Grrrrr.


Dory Says:

Nadal already playing like a monster.


dari Says:

Hi live watchers! Keep us posted on quality of play, will be hopefully joining live at noon


Dory Says:

Nadal finding it hard on Murray’s serve when Murray changes the ball direction suddenly.


jane Says:

Come on Murray; keep those serves firing and save your energy for return games!


tennisfansince76 Says:

Jane, ESPN is not showing Nadal/Murray because those scurvy buggers at NBC have the rights and they are showing the match on tape delay at 1230. NBC should get out of the tennis broadcasting biz


yy Says:

Hard to call at this moment. Murray is serving well.


Ike Says:

@ jane,

You know why, this match isn’t live on TV NBC/ESPN???? and they are showing Serena reply?
- Because the NBC / ESPN “executives / senior managers” have their brains fried up!
They think stupid shows like Today / Morning show etc. are more important.
What’s wrong with these people can’t they use common sense, come on it’s Wimbledon semi-finals!

Ike – The Angry American!


Dory Says:

2 aces in a row and a drop shot by Murray.


Seth Says:

. . . . Berdych wins. Damn. Big, tall guy tennis is so boring. I really fear the whole game is headed that way.


Dory Says:

Try to see if you can watch the match online at http://www.fromsport.com or http://www.atdhe.net


Dory Says:

Try to see if you can watch the match online at fromsport.com or atdhe.net


margot Says:

very very very early days but serve is clicking and forehand being used aggressively, can I breathe yet?


Dory Says:

On serve 2-2. Nadal serving very well.


tennisfansince76 Says:

seth i am w/ you. big man tennis is and always has been a bore. richard kraijek anyone. he was great to watch wasn’t he. like watching paint dry.


Dory Says:

Murray trying to take quick points. That’s the way he should continue.


Dory Says:

Great bh smash by Murray.


tennisfansince76 Says:

now will I have the discipline to not peak at the Nadal/Muzza score online and wait for the tape delay ed broadcast at 1230 PT. I doubt it. curse you NBC you filthy maggots. this is so outmoded in this broadband era we live in. just let espn handle all the tennis. they re a dedicated sports network. or why not wimbnledon gets its own channel


margot Says:

ike: hi, yes, I am British, a Celt actually but a Welsh one, not Scots like Andy. Yep, he’s gotta step up and be aggressive for sure cos Rafa will dominate those baseline rallies.


jane Says:

I have found a good live stream at least. But yeah, you guys are right. NBC – OUT!


dari Says:

Seth and tennis fan, did you really think Berdy looked like boring big man tennis today?
Kinda watching on atdhe really wanna see it better quality. Did see Murray almost run down that ball from a mile away! Let’s go Murray, you can do this!


Dory Says:

Both players serving well and aggressive on their own serve.


Kimmi Says:

OMG. the serve. Murray keep it up


blank Says:

Why is Beckham here? To jinx the Brits again? That’s not cool.


jane Says:

Beckham looking rather handsome as usual ; ) Come on Murray!!!! Come ON! He’s holding well, now he needs a break.


margot Says:

Andy playing awfully well, hope he can keep this up.


jane Says:

Ack blank! Don’t mention the word jinx. I think he’s likely there as he and Murray share the same agent so he probably takes an interest in Murray’s game? Maybe his son does as well? But NO jinxing.


Dory Says:

2 Aces and 1 DF by Murray.


Dory Says:

Nadal has break point. 2nd serve.


Dory Says:

Broken! Nadal will serve for the set.


yy Says:

Nadal breaks Murray to go up 5-4.


Kimmi Says:

wow, break..c’mon murray


margot Says:

AAAAAHHHHH Rafa has pounced!!


jane Says:

It’s okay, Tsonga won the first set too. Although Tsonga is no Rafa. Murray keep fighting!


Wimbledon Champ Says:

Great prediction Sean! Kudos to you. I just did not think joker boy would lose to berdych!

I have a question for you. Is that a picture of nadal and berdych that you have on the homepage of tennis-x? LOL! sorry berdych fans!


Ike Says:

Ladies & Gentlemen,
Anyone following soccer, Dutch are leading Brazil 2-1


yy Says:

Murray saves 2 set points… 1 more to go for Nadal.


Dory Says:

Nadal takes the first set 6-4. Last game was close.


yy Says:

Nadal draws first blood. 6-4.

Brazil is down to 10 men. Hard to see them come back.


jane Says:

Wimbledon Champ, LOL, I wasn’t wondering who that was with Rafa on the front page.

Murray just had one bad error, a couple second serves, and Rafa was all over it. As Becker says, Murray has to win this second set!!


margot Says:

ooooh, soooooo disappointing cos Andy was playing soooo well, it’s the double fault what did it, just like with Djko.
no jane, regrettably Rafa is no Tsonga.


Daniel Says:

Wow! Nadal is havibg a perfect match, almost no mistakes. Murray is not being able to attack his serve and his backhand is rock solid. Murray needs Nadal to have a dip in form to have a chance.


Huh Says:

That’s it, I think for Murray. No way, Muzza’s gonna come back from this. I can only hope that he proves me wrong.


Dory Says:

Murray trying to play aggressive but making errors. 30-15


Colin Says:

It’s small consolation to me, but at least Murray is doing the right things, and he can’t be accused of passive play. His first serve percentage is excellent, and he’s sending down some aces.
But he still lost the set. All is not yet lost, but Nadal is no Tsonga, and won’t wilt.
Ah, well…


Dory Says:

Murray playing well on his service games except for that one game at 4-4 in 1st set whereas he had 1 DF and 1 unlucky return from Nadal near the baseline when Murray had moved to the net.


Kimmi Says:

so unlucky in that first set murray..c’mon


Ike Says:

3 minutes to go, Dutch are leading Brazil 2-1


margot Says:

Colin: I agree Andy is playing the right game. Boris says he’s playing good but not great. Come on Andy you know you’ve gotta play “great” against no 1!


Dory Says:

Murray has 70% return %. Nadal 60%. 30-30 at 2-1 on Nadal’s serve.


Dory Says:

Deuce.


jane Says:

Rafa is very good at the net, gets down so low, light touch. I think he’s kind of underrated in this regard. Murray still battling though; we have a deuce.


blank Says:

jane,

Okay, I won’t mention jinx again.

I am rooting for Andy. Go Andy!


Huh Says:

I know I’m most UNhappy about 1st set, but still…

C’mon Muzza!!!


Ike Says:

Brazil lost


Dory Says:

Brazil is OUT!!!


Kimmi Says:

ike..big upset that was. didn’t thing the dutch has a chance..wow


dari Says:

Just checking scores and notes here on my phone. Had to stel out. Murray, bud, you can beat this man!


Kimmi Says:

c’mon muzza break him


Huh Says:

More than anything else, it’s Nadal’s supreme confidence at the moment, which’s making his job easier and Murray’s difficult.


margot Says:

Andy is playing SO well, he’s not going to be the only one that’s heartbroken if he loses! Unfortunately…just look at Rafa’s serve!


Huh Says:

Way to go Netherlands!


Dory Says:

If Nadal wins Wimbledon, it will be 5 big tournaments in a row! 3 1000s and 2 Slams. Unbelievable! Next year he’ll have so much defending to do.


Huh Says:

Only one good news of Netherlands beating Brazil in this otherwise disappointing day so far.


Dory Says:

Nadal making errors on this backhand. 40-30.


Dory Says:

Sorry 30-40 I meant. And now deuce.


Huh Says:

Break Muzza, if you can!


Dory Says:

Murray tried hard to break and played well but got outplayed by Nadal.


Dan Martin Says:

So far I look like an idiot with my picks so i am going to take Vera tomorrow morning! I can’t be wrong all the time can I?


Dory Says:

Murray strong on his serve. Looks determined in set 2.


Dory Says:

Zvonareva is in women’s doubles final as well.


margot Says:

Boris has just said Andy does not look as if he can win! Crikey Boris. However, Rafa’s level HAS dropped, come on! If Sod can get a set off Rafa so can you.


Dory Says:

15-40!!!


yy Says:

Murray with 2 break chances now.


jane Says:

40-15 Murray on Rafa’s serve. Great defensive lob …


Dory Says:

Deuce. Nadal’s forehand doing all the damage.


jane Says:

Rafa is too fast. Sheesh!!


Dan Martin Says:

Rafa is stingy with break points against everyone.


Dory Says:

I wouldn’t say Murray is playing passively today but Nadal is in monstrous form with hardly any UEs. Throughout the 2nd set Murray has kept his level high and very focused IMO.


Skeezerweezer Says:

Move your feet Murray! Gets in a tough spot, need to move those feet!


yy Says:

Nadal manages to hold. wow.


dari Says:

What happened on those bps?


Kimmi Says:

wow – the beast is rafa


Dory Says:

2nd set will probably be a tie break.


jane Says:

Rafa is so tough, playing with such resolve. But Murray is still hanging with him, though he’s looking just a little frustrated. He just needs one break to get fired up.

If Rafa wins, I don’t know if Berdy can beat Fed, Djok and Rafa in succession. But that’d be quite the feat if he did it.


Kimmi Says:

c’mon murray, keeo trying


Dory Says:

Still only 5-4 on serve and Nadal to serve but on most important points, Nadal is unbeatable.


Skeezerweezer Says:

One things for sure, Rafa shows NO sign of knee issues, his movement is awesome… also…he is the only guy left who no nervousness in his game


Seth Says:

@ dari

Yes, I’ve found Berdych incredibly boring to watch.


Dory Says:

Nadal maintaining very good length and extreme angles.


Daniel Says:

Nadal is punishing the second balo on his serve. Murray should try to go for the corners when returning.


yy Says:

Murray just needs to hang in there.


jane Says:

Murray still hammering in some aces… nice to see. I have to go soon so probably won’t see the outcome. margot, am still holding on. : ) As is Andy.


Dory Says:

It feels lonely without Federer. I have a lump in my throat.


Kimmi Says:

wow – s0 close fo murray. keep it up.

need to take this set..praying!


margot Says:

Andys just gotta get this set so come on everyone, joining hands across the world and sendind good vibes. Come on!


Dory Says:

It was so rare before 2008 for the French Open champion to win Wimbledon and now it will be three years in a row. Twice by Nadal and once by RF.


Dory Says:

2nd set tie break. Murray to serve first.


yy Says:

Mini break for Murray.


Dory Says:

1 Mini-break on Nadal’s serves Murray leading 2-1 and now 2 serves of his.


Von Says:

C’mon Netherlands!

Veno, are you watching?


Dory Says:

On serve :( 3-3.


Daniel Says:

Murray didnt put a single first serve in the tiebreak só far


Kimmi Says:

oh no..bad feeling here…c’mon andy


Dory Says:

2 aces in a row by Murray. 5-4 on serve. Nadal to serve.


Kimmi Says:

wow – go andy


Skeezerweezer Says:

DF at 5 all!


Dory Says:

Nadal double faults at 5-5. Murray to serve for the set 6-5.


Dory Says:

6-6. Still one serve of Murray to go.


Kimmi Says:

df rafa? no freaking way


Skeezerweezer Says:

Rafa=Beast


Dory Says:

Oh no!!!! SET POINT to Nadal. 7-6 on his own 2 serves.


Kimmi Says:

sh*t..will murray get this set..oh lody god. Go murray


Dory Says:

Nadal takes set 2.


Dory Says:

Will someone stop this unstoppable beast? Has anyone won 5 major tournaments in a row before?


Daniel Says:

How come he didn’t put a first serve when havin set point after Nadal df?! This is why he is still slamless.


Believer Says:

Show is over. Go home folks. There is nothing to see here.


Kimmi Says:

hands up and down fo rafa. he went for it. he deserve it

sadly, we have nadal error. congrats rafa fans


margot Says:

All over now, shall get cheerfully, no not cheerfully, drunk! Andy needed to serve an ace and he didn’t, end of.


Dory Says:

Del Potro was that one consistent Nadal slayer in 2009. LOL.


Kimmi Says:

i meant “nadal era”


Dory Says:

0-40 on Nadal’s opening service game!!!


yy Says:

Murray has 3 break chances in the first game of the 3rd set.


Dory Says:

Murray breaks


yy Says:

Murray has the early break! Still more to come.


jane Says:

Watched tiebreak in the lobby. LOL! Ah … Rafa. What can you say? His court coverage and accuracy are crazy good. Sad for Murray, to lose the second set, but he is in fighting the good fight. Match isn’t over but it’ll be uber tough to come back from that.

margot, still holding on even though on the road.

Yippee!!! An early break for Murray. Still hoping.


Daniel Says:

At least he start more agressive when returning


Dory Says:

Just hold your serve now Murray. But what about 4th set? The beast won’t lie down quietly.


Ike Says:

It’s not over, yet!!! Let’s go Andy!!!


Skeezerweezer Says:

Sorry Murray fans, I have seen this type of Rafa game before. He is playing at absolutely the top of his game. When he is crushing those FH’s at will with heavyspin his confidence grows like Pinocchio’s nose on Steriods. Murray has Mt Olympus to climb know, hope he kind find something to build on, otherwise, out. If it is any consolation, the way Rafa is playing today no one would be leading the match against Rafa at this point. Will check in later.,,,,,


Kimmi Says:

omg..is it too late…murray coming back. i don’t know..don’t think so. keep going my man


Dory Says:

I will stop commenting for a while now.


Believer Says:

Murray can believe. Not gonna happen though. Nadal Vs Bird man will be a cracker. Only a truly offensive player firing on cylinders can de-rail Rafa.


margot Says:

jane, ike: love your optimism! Love Andy, can’t say more but to come back from 2 sets down against Rafa, why that’s superhuman!


margot Says:

And.. I’d really like to know why Rafa and Roger save their very best tennis for poor Andy!


Dory Says:

Nadal is playing extremely attacking since he got broke. Murray should try to conserve energy for the next set by focusing only on his service games.


Dory Says:

Thankfully Murray nearly gets broken but doesn’t. 3-1. 13 aces.


Kimmi Says:

serve and volley murray..great.


Dory Says:

Boris Becker saying Murray has won more points than Nadal in the match but Nadal played well at most important points.


Dory Says:

Both at 14 UEs so far and Murray has 33 winners to Nadal’s 24. 1st % of both at 67-68%.


Kimmi Says:

can he hold till the end, its the long road..c,mon andy


margot Says:

No shame here, Andy has played gr8 and even now is not giving up! He’s certainly my hero.
All I can say is good luck to the Bird…he’s gonna need it.


Dory Says:

Murray takes love game. 4-2.


Kimmi Says:

margot – murray is playing very well..just one point in that tie breaker ;(
i am glad he is fighting too ..hope he takes this set


Huh Says:

C’mon oh supernatural powers of the creation, help Muzza take this set at least, if not the match!

C’MON MUZZA!!!


Huh Says:

Mrs. Margot:

I dunno what to do except giving you company till the bitter end here.


andrea Says:

good stuff from berdych…straight sets over novak. that’s impressive. i guess the meltdowns are no longer.


Dory Says:

Nadal has break point!!!!!


Dory Says:

Deuce. Adv. Deuce. Break point again due to DF.


Dory Says:

4-4. Looks like it will be over in 3 sets.


Kimmi Says:

mmmmmmmmmmmm. murray :(


Dory Says:

1st serve % in first 2 sets was higher for Murray but has dropped to 4o% in set 3.


Huh Says:

If Murray’s able to win this set and another and extend Rafa to 5 sets, I think that’d give him the much needed boost.

But such speculations would remain only in my daydreams it seems, now that Rafa has broken Muzza back. :/


Dory Says:

After 4 big tournaments on clay, I was least expecting Nadal to won Wimby. It’s Bird & the Beast now. Birdy can’t do anything against this monster.


Daniel Says:

Deep down didn’t we all knew Nadal would break backhand?!


Dory Says:

No offense to Nadal fans btw but I don’t like his style of play.


Dory Says:

He can still try to win set 3 on tiebreak.


Huh Says:

Nadal’s confidence and Murray’s not-so-strong FH eventually cost him this match, yes Muzza’s loss is inevitable!


Dory Says:

Match point for Nadal.


Daniel Says:

Murray gera tigh deep in the sets. Everytime!


Dory Says:

Nadal wins.


Dory Says:

And hugs Murray at the net.


Daniel Says:

This is just pathetic the way he lost this set.


Kimmi Says:

wow – in straights sets.

sorry margot and other murray fans

congrats nadal


tennisfansince76 Says:

ahhhh disappointed. well congrats to Nadal. looks like he is about to wrap up the year end #1 the first week of July is over. what a letdown.


andrea Says:

holy smokes. straight sets? andy murray fizzles again. can we ever put our money on him?

the final should prove interesting…nadal had trouble with the big serving, flat hitters in the early rounds and that’s who he gets in the final. will berdych’s mental game hold up on the occassion?

i hope its a 5 set classic!


tennisfansince76 Says:

I hope Birdy canin spring do better than he did back at Indian Wells. It was a touch match but Nadal outmoved and outclassed Birdy. Birdy had trouble dealing w/ Nadal’s FH to his two handed BH. and that of course is death.


margot Says:

nadal was awesome! Good luck Berdie, you’re gonna need it. Andy and Djko fans will cry together. Andy I love you whatever! No shame in losing to this incredible champion. TMF at his best would’ve lost today.
Bye everyone, thanx for your support. As I’ve said b4 “The Age of Nadal” is upon us.
xxxxxxx to jane, kimmi and huh.


Ike Says:

Sorry for the loss, Margot.
I hope Tomas will give run for the money to Rafa.


jatt Says:

first of all congrats to contador…his picks have been on accurately on spot…like his posts..
I think seeing Nadal the way he has played, they should just give him the trophy …no need to hold the grandslam final…
I now can see why immediately after winning the french, nadal said to john mac “see you at the US open”…
I mean he knew there is nobody left in the field to stop him now..I just wish if an in-form delpo was here..


Skeezerweezer Says:

Sorry Margot:(

Congrats to Rafa fans…


Ike Says:

If someone comes with a gauge to measure “mental toughness”, I think in sports Nadal would measure the highest!


sar Says:

THe same score as Djok/Berdy match.


Kimmi Says:

conty – you said it and it happened.

lets give this trophy to rafa. great season 4 him


blank Says:

Come Sunday, Nadal should be feasting on the Berdy.


Ike Says:

I just strung my racquet, Head Radical Pro…same as Andy, I was superstitious that if I string it during the match, Andy might win, unfortunately he didn’t.
oh…….well


Skeezerweezer Says:

Rafa in straights in the final. Don’t just look at the physical abilities of the two left in the final, Rafa has the huge edge in the mental department. The Beast has arrived.


Ike Says:

I just have strong feeling, that Tomas will play with no pressure on him, and could beat Rafa.


Huh Says:

SO IT’S ALL OVER NOW, EH? OK. TIME TO MOVE ON AND HOPE FOR AN EXCITING FINAL, WHICH GOING BY WHAT I SAW IN TODAY’S MATCH, SEEMS THE FARTHEST CRY.
BERDY WOULD BE MOST FORTUNATE IF HE’S ABLE TO PUSH NADAL EVEN TO ANYWHERE NEAR THE 4TH SET!

CONGRATS TO ALEISH, MINDY, ANNA, EZORRA AND OTHER NADAL FANS. I KNOW YOU’RE HAPPIEST AT THE MOMENT AND I’M ALSO HAPPY FOR YOU CONSIDERING WHAT YOU GUYS HAD TO ENDURE SINCE MAY 09-MAR 10.

KUDOS TO RAFAEL NADAL, THE MOST DESERVING FINALIST OF WIMBLEDON! :D


yy Says:

Interesting final. Looking forward to it. Vamos Rafa!


jatt Says:

Ok..wimby sponsors should give take their tickets back and refund all the money back to the people for the finals :)


Ike Says:

@ Skeezerweezer
agree with you on Rafa’s mental toughness. But, pure shot-making, I think Tomas is better.


margot Says:

ike: exactly, that’s what makes Rafa different. And it sure scares me.


Dory Says:

7000 ATP points in 3 months! Another record I guess?


Ike Says:

@ Huh
I will go for Tomas beating Rafa in 4 sets!


tennisfansince76 Says:

i smell a straight set sunday. haven’t had one of those in a while ( Fed/Roddick 05 i believe ). to quote Agent Smith from the matrix again this has the smell of ineveitability. when Berdych plays Nadal his Nickname is apt. he moves like a clumsy emu. i hope he can bring it but i am not holding my breath.


tennisfansince76 Says:

Ike and margot. maybe pure shotmaking yoy could be right. but you are forgetting movement and Rafa has Birdy beat up and down in that department. he can run circles around him.


Huh Says:

MRS. MARGOT:

TOO BAD THAT OUR GUY LOST DESPITE PLAYING GOOD AGGRESSIVE TENNIS, BUT HIS FH CERTAINLY WAS THE WEAK POINT AND PROVED TO BE HIS UNDOING.

And congrats to myself for making the safe pick of Nadal over Murray, long before the match started. ;)

And SUPER CONGRATS TO CONTY, for being absolutely spot on in his prediction! :D

And kudos to Sean Randall too for his 100% correct predictions!


Ike Says:

@ margot
do you think Andy’s forehand is letting him down, I mean it’s reliable but it’s not really a killer!
He seems kind of hesitant to hit it down the line with pace, (of course that’s one of the most difficult shot in the tennis, but still…)
Andy has great serve, strong backhand, mentally he is tough enough. If he can achieve even the “generic” forehand level of Federer, I think he can beat Rafa and other boys.


Ela Says:

Yes, yes, and yeeees!!!!! Nadal ALL THE WAY!
Rafa you rock!


Ike Says:

@ tennisfansince76
I agree with your statement.
But sometimes pure shot-making can beat the physical ability….on a given day.


Dory Says:

If Nadal continues to win 2 slams a year on average, by age 28 he would have added 8 more equalling RF’s 16. RF must continue to win Slams. Imagine if Nadal’s slam record ever exceeds RF’s! Nadal already has a better H2H against RF by a mile and higher number of ATP Masters 1000. Guess who would be called the GOAT then?


Ike Says:

@ Huh
I totally agree with your comment re. Andy’s forehand. If you notice, most of his “defensive” forehands are kind of like “he is falling back”. Even when he is in great position to hit the forehand he just can’t get the 100 mph winner.
Of course easy for me to say, I been trying to improve my forehand for last…I don’t know how many years. And I gave up on my single handed backhand, I just slice it.


Ike Says:

Anyone from Providence / Boston area?
Going to Newport tennis tournament next week?


tennisfansince76 Says:

dory 2 slams a year till 28 is asking quite alot. it can be done. but if I were a betting man i would bet against. i give Nadal about 2 more years w/ the possibly of maintaing his current level barring more injury which is quite possible. i think he will have patches of excellence mixed in w/ spottier play. we shall see. a reason to keep following tennis.


Dory Says:

The ATP should cut down on a couple of 1000s and 500s and have them replaced by ATP World Tour Finals-like events. So far, at ATP WTF/TMC, RF’s record is the best.


Ike Says:

I think Fish, Querrey, Mahut, Falla, Malisse , Ram,
will be playing at Newport.

http://www.tennisfame.com/tournaments/campbells-hall-of-fame-championships/players


Ike Says:

@ tennisfansince76
probably once Rafa wins US Open, he might cut down on hard court tournaments. Might just play the only big ones.


Huh Says:

MRS. MARGOT:

YOU CAN REST ASSURED THAT I’D BE WITH YOU THROUGHOUT THE USO 10, ROOTING FOR MUZZA TO FINALLY WIN THAT ELUSIVE SLAM TITLE OVER THERE.

My dream scenario for USO is that Fed, Rafa, Muzza and some other guy would reach the semi in an ideal world and there Murray would play his semi first with the “some other guy” and beat him in 3 or 4 sets and then later the Fed v. Rafa battle would happen, that should be an epic battle to serve muzza’s cause, most probably a 4-5+ hrs epic 5 setter match, and regardles of whether Fed/Rafa wons it, would come to the final absolutely tired and there’d be the runners-up to Muzza! :D
Ok, cut me some slack guys, even though I’m getting far ahead of myself re: muzza’s US 10 win in my ideal world, thanks to my brain working overtime! ;)

BUT IN REALITY, I HAVE A STRONG GUT FEELING THAT THIS IS THE YEAR WHEN RAFA WINS THE USO AND ESTABLISHES HIMSELF AS SETTING THE MOST RIDICULOUSLY DOMINANT SLAM WINNING STREAK IN ONE SEASON IN THE OPEN ERA BY WINNING THE FO, WIM AND USO IN A ROW THIS YEAR!!! FREAKING GUT FEELING AND I REALLY THINK THAT’S GONNA HAPPEN!!!


Skeezerweezer Says:

@Ike

Yes on a given day. And yes it is proven a bigger flatter hitter can hit through Rafa. But it is a low percentage game. Can Birdy do it? Sure. But the way the stars are aligned my head says Rafa. The X factor in a final I have only seen Rafa and Fed with it. In a GS final, both of them have proved it. Now the Bird is going to play a guys with proven experience and mental toughness in GS finals. I think Fed used this very well in th AO against Murray. I am picking Rafa mainly on the Mental side cause Bird has shown a history of nerves at times. If he can keep those under control, Serve well and pound his FH, he’s got a shot.

All that said, I hope it’s a 5 setter, and give us fans some entertaining final!


margot Says:

tennisfansince76: sorry you misunderstand me, it’s Rafa in 3 against Big Bird, playing like this.
ike: Becker said Andy was playing good, but not great, he also said he doesn’t look as if he thinks he can beat Rafa. Andy’s forehand has improved beyond belief and there’s room for improvement still but crucial point was that double fault game 9(?) and first serve miss in the tie break. Playing Rafa you just can’t do that. I still believe it’s Andy’s mind and his will, not his game. Having said this, has there EVER been a player like Rafa?


Ike Says:

I think it will be very difficult for Rafa to win more than 16 grand slams. There are too many good player competing. During Federer’s prime era, there were only a few…once in a while. Safin, Hewitt, Roddick, but they were not that consistent. I think the strength of the playing field is stronger now a days.


Huh Says:

NOW SOME BIG-TIME REALITY CHECK!

If you always want to create doubts in the minds of Nadal/Federer, then it’s advisable for you to make sure that you were born with a freakish motherf###### FH! But unfortunately Nole and Muzza don’t have that FH and so would always find it difficult to unsettle or reap doubts in the Federer/Nadal kinda freaking beasts!


jatt Says:

Ike Says:
@ Huh
I will go for Tomas beating Rafa in 4 sets!

Ike..nole today showed he can block and return berdych BIG serve..and rafa as a returner is miles ahead in this department…
Once he is able to return berdych and then it will be all Rafa over the court..The only way berdych can think of winning is he needs
to blast his forehand and backends with huge speeds..May be this high risk game can make bird win..
Otherwise bird to not going to catch even a single breath


Ike Says:

@ huh
that “some other guy” cud be Berdych or Soderling.
I have feeling that Novak is done, I just don’t see that improvement in him since summer 2007 – spring 2008.


montecarlo Says:

@Dory

Nadal will average 3 slams a year not 2. You just wait and watch. i have been saying this even before the clay season started and things are falling in right place now.

There is no one, and I mean no one who can beat a fit Nadal on any surface. And with the upcoming permanent treatment on right knee he will be double hungry and ready for the US Open.

That being said we must not get ahead of ourselves yet coz Berdych won’t be a pushover in the final and match will be real tough affair.

Coming back to today’s match, andy played really well but Nadal was a lot better on crucial points and that decided the match.

Vamos Rafa. Now bite the trophy on Sunday. :)


Ike Says:

@ Skeezerweezer, jatt,
I agree with you guys on almost all the points re. Tomas vs. Rafa. But for some reason I think he has the “complete” game (minus footwork / athletic ability) and he can beat Rafa.


Skeezerweezer Says:

@tennisfansince76 @1:43 pm post

That’s how I see it also. Rafa is in a different set of circumstances. He has a chronic issue at a young age and although Rafa fans would love to see him break records, if he goes all out with no breaks he runs a high risk of re-injury. And then what? Out another year? His approach this season has been stellar. It will be interesting to see how he manages the HC season, the hardest surface on the body,

It is an interesting argument though about getting those two slams a year. What if skipped the HC surface completely. No USO or AO. He is a shoe-in for FO every year unless proven otherwise and he could win Wimby too, all without jeopardizing his condition….but then your sayin he is gonna win…no hiccups, 2 GS a year till 28….Food for thought…


Ike Says:

@ montecarlo
I strongly doubt if Nadal can average 3 grand slams a year (from 2010 – (say) 2012).


tennisfansince76 Says:

Ike already counting the USO in Rafa’s trophy case. I’m not so sure. we shall see. he still has a hard NA hard court swing to get thru. we’ll see how he does. i give him 50/50 odds no better. it will depend on the draw alot.


Ike Says:

@ margot
yeah Andy’s good enough tennis is not good enough to beat Nadal. I think, Andy’s good enough tennis can beat all the “attacking” players but against “counter-punchers” like Nadal it will never be enough.


Skeezerweezer Says:

@Margot

” I still believe it’s Andy’s mind and his will, not his game. ”

Totally agree! I saw his game live at a Tourney that he won, his game is very solid, Goes over and under the ball on both sides, and his fitness has improved alot, great serve…..


grendel Says:

I’m not sure about Djokovic. I wouldn’t write him off. He came back very strong against Berdych.He took chances on the second serve, and unfortunately for him it failed at set point – it wasn’t tightness, it was deliberate policy which had served him well earlier. Just one point. After that, he was gone, of course.

I like Berdych – there is nothing remotely boring bout his majestic play when it’s on – but in a sense it’s unfortunate he beat Djokovic. Apart from del Potro, Djokovic is probably the only player right now who can beat Nadal. His defence against Berdych in that tie break was truly phenomenal, and he undoubtedly has the game, if not maybe the head, to trouble Nadal. But Berdych, although better and with much more variety than Soderling, will probably go the same way – just not quite flexible enough to trouble Nadal, I suspect.


Skeezerweezer Says:

@montecarlo

I know your a Rafa fan, so I will cut you some slack on the predicting Rafa gets 16 GS. I hope Fed get’s 2 more! Ha! Let’s just remember today and we’ll see :)


Ike Says:

Interesting stats:
Andy:
Winning % on 1st Serve 43 of 55 = 78 %
Winning % on 2nd Serve 21 of 37 = 57 %

Rafa:
Winning % on 1st Serve 53 of 68 = 78 %
Winning % on 2nd Serve 17 of 29 = 59 %

I don’t think you can coach anyone what to do on break points:

Andy: Break Point Conversions 1 of 3 = 33 %

Rafa: 3 of 4 = 75 %


Ike Says:

@ grendel
I used to be Novak fan, but unfortunately not anymore. I still root for him but my brain tells me, he just can’t win against the big boys anymore. I would be happily surprised if he can win one more grand slam. He need to play that “fearless” tennis, that he played against Fed in 2007 in Canada and in 2008 in Aussie open.


margot Says:

ike @ 2:01: but that’s the exact opposite of what folks have been saying – that Andy can’t beat aggressive players.
grendel: for me Djko caught the Tsonga-itis.


tennisfansince76 Says:

Ike not only has Djoker not improved he has backslid
quite a bit. 07/08 Djoker was a killer. he has regressed mentally and physically.


Ike Says:

Well, Margot, Skeezerweezer, Huh, grendel, tennisfansince76, jatt, dory, Kimmi, montecarlo.

You all have a good afternoon / evening.
For all American Happy Fourth of July!
Have a great long weekend.

And may be see you in Newport, Rhode Island.

Take care,
- Ike


montecarlo Says:

@Skeez

I told you many times before. Federer will always be remembered as greatest GS player ever coz of that 16,17,18 or whatever Number he puts up.

But assuming Nadal gets to double figures in GS count (and one of them being USO) and adding far more MS titles + Davis Cups + Singles Olympic Gold + !4-7 (and increasing H2H) and you get a far better TENNIS PLAYER (and not GS player).


fed is afraid Says:

rafa on towards victory
a second double double
when all is said and done
he will have a better career
than roger.


jatt Says:

@ montecarlo..

no doubt this year its going to be Rafa but i cant say this for next 2-3 years…for french and wimby i agree rafa is going to be there for years to come but for
the other 2 grandslams, there may be players like delpo going for all.. Everytime we see a dominant champion, another comes into the making like
it happened with Roger..05 was the beginning of Nadal stepping into rogers era with the french and challenging him..
Now you can see delpo, berdych developing into that material…Nobody can win it all.. Nadals will also have his kryptonite somewhere developing..
But till that time..its all Nadal..


grendel Says:

I predicted when I first came on this site 3 years or so ago that Nadal would end up with the biggest g/slam haul. At the time, Nadal had only won the French, and my prediction was met with laughter.

But I kept to my belief, which is now stronger than ever. It’s his mind, you see. It is very unusual indeed, if not unique – in tennis anyway. Even Hewitt and Connors, his predecessors, don’t really match up to him in this respect. He will win the US Open this year with del Potro being absent, and that will be it probably. But he will continue to win the other three and end up with about 20. He has been continually underestimated, especially in terms of his longevity – considerations of which have smacked of wishful thinking.

All predictions of this kind are little more than superstition, of course. But some superstitions carry more weight than others……


Huh Says:

tennisfansince1976:

Good on you for pointing out that while talking about and comparing the shotmaking of Rafa with people, we must NEVER forget Nadal’s far better movement than Berdych on any surface and even moreso on grass! Nobody moves better on grass than Rafa except Federer. Berdych’s nowhere near Rafa in terms of movement on grass.

And even with re: shortmaking Nadal’s levels ahead of Berdych if we talk about control over shots. Berdych’s just a big, flat, ballistic (and mostly mindless) power shot hitter. But Nadal’s perfect control, lethal placement and extraordinary penetration in his FH on grass. And the rare, but electric, devastating, match-turning, despiriting and UNBELIEVABLY KILLER BH winner of Nadal also comes in the most crucial moments of the match and it caused even Federer to wrong foot in the crucial 5th set of 2008 WIM, what to speak of Berdych & co.!! The highlights in WIM 08 final were not exactly the FHs of Fed/Rafa, but their respective BHs. Remember the BH shot of Fed at championship point in the 4th set? Or the BH winner passing shot of Nadal to set up the fateful break point for Fed in the 15th game of 5ht set. Yes!!! Fed and Rafa don’t have the best BHs on tour or even the BHs with the most control, but their best BH shots seems to come out at the time when they need it most, mainly that sets up the turning point for the match, and we needn’t even mention about their cruel FHs!

———————————

ON A DIFFERENT NOTE:

Ike:

For the sake of winning important matches, I don’t think Muzza needs the best forehand of history, which belongs to Federer. Murray can beat his scariest of opponents even if he gets a stingy and aggressive FH like the ones belonging to Andreev, Querry or Gulbis!


Dory Says:

At present, Nole’s record against Nadal is the same as Fed i.e. 14-7. I see Djokovic definitely winning at least one more Slam but he needs to get stronger mentally. In fact Nole is the only player who has remained at No.3 for nearly 4 years now. He’s definitely not over nor is Roger on his way down (he already went down after 2007) but he can definitely keep going (Roger the Contender instead of Roger the Emperor). With the return of Del Potro, things could change quite a lot. Plus, on hard court, players like Davydenko have a lot of confidence and better H2H against Nadal. Soderling, Cilic (who has a lot of potential) and Berdych also might improve their performance. I don’t think Nadal will win the 2010 USO but he might win it some year. This Wimbledon might be a wake-up jolt for RF to start preparing better. My biggest wish besides Slam wins for RF now is more RF-Nadal matches where RF can improve his H2H against Nadal.


Huh Says:

“There is no one, and I mean no one who can beat a fit Nadal on any surface.”

I think even Rafa doesn’t believe within himself what has been said here, let alone others!
Of course it made up for some comical reading. ;)

And so far as the title of Greatest Tennis Player of All Time is concerned, it is probably vested with Fed right now even though I personally think Pete, Borg, Pancho Gonzales and Laver have also held this title at some point of time. Right now Fed’s considered as great as anybody ever played the game of tennis. So worthless to make argument here with some stupid person who doesn’t know this much.

But then, if we are purely talking about being “the perfect tennis player” in this imperfect world, all are unanimous in their verdict that Federer has the best game that anyone could ever imagine of, and that’s why he’s not just regarded by an overwhelming majority as “the best tennis player of all time”, but he has also the far more difficult distinction of being termed by all the past greats, who’re leaving or have leaved to see him in flesh while playing, as “the perfect tennis player”. NOW THAT’S THE BIGGEST TITLE THAT FEDERER HOLDS.


Dory Says:

Btw I think this year’s USO will be won by Federer again. 2 each Nadal and Fed. But Fed needs to perform well at the ATP 1000s and 500s too, not just for records sake, but “this will keep him in the game”. We all saw what lack of enough matches did to him in the early part of the season. If he decides to perform 100% only in the Slams, then Nadal might go ahead in the race faster.


fed is afraid Says:

won’t happen
roger will never beat rafa again.
roger’s only hope is to lose
early so he won’t have to face
rafa and more embarrassing beatdowns.


Dory Says:

Well said Huh. I respect Nadal a lot but I don’t like the 99% physical-only aspect of his game. Even Nole has said that in the future, he wants his game to have more variety. Look at Del Potro, another rare player who’s got the modern muscle power to hit HUGE groundstrokes but also has an excellent net game with ample variety of shots.


Dory Says:

@fed is afraid. Shoo away troll please. We’re here to have a meaningful realistic discussion although we’re not all fans of the same players.


Twocents Says:

Given the pressure of the entire Empire, Murray fought hard.

No worry, Andy, next time! And faith, Murray fans :-)).


Huh Says:

Oops, in my 2.53 pm post, “leaving” must be read as “living” to see Federer.


Huh Says:

“Twocents Says:

Given the pressure of the entire Empire, Murray fought hard.

No worry, Andy, next time! And faith, Murray fans :-)).”

THE BEST WAY ANYONE COULDA PUT IT, KUDOS TO YOU MR.TWOCENTS!


fed is afraid Says:

dory-why should i shoo away?
i’ve been here longer than you.


midsun Says:

“I respect Nadal a lot but I don’t like the 99% physical-only aspect of his game. Even Nole has said that in the future, he wants his game to have more variety. Look at Del Potro, another rare player who’s got the modern muscle power to hit HUGE groundstrokes but also has an excellent net game with ample variety of shots.”

Have folks not been watching Wimbledon? Nadal has far surpassed the largely physical game he relied on in the past. He is mixing it up, volleying extremely well. He couldn’t have beaten a player as finessed and physically improved as Andy in three straight sets if he didn’t have the finesse himself. It seems unfair that after all Nadal has done to improve his game, he still gets pegged as simply a “physical” player.


asif Says:

All of the analysis of forehands, backhands, serves, returns, etc is completely meaningless when one considers that Nadal is lightyears ahead of everyone else mentally. All of the guys in the top 10 have the games to beat one another on any given day, but Nadal has a far superior ability to keep it together mentally.

Someone above said that Nadal’s game is “99% physical only”. This is patently wrong. Nadal’s biggest advantage is upstairs. Anyone who has played tennis matches can recognize this. This is not to say that he isn’t impressive physically. In fact, he might be one of the most incredible athletes on the face of the earth right now. Now when it comes down the most “perfect” tennis player, I have no idea what that even means. But it’s hard to accept that the most perfect player ever would have an abysmal record against his chief rival.

I think what is happening here is that a lot of anti-Nadal people are saying what they would like to be true, even though an objective treatment of the situation would result in a different conclusion.


asif Says:

Another thing that does not get talked about much is Nadal’s conditioning. I’m not talking about his stamina over the course of a match as much as I’m talking about his stamina within a point. Tennis players’ bodies are conditioned to exert energy in bursts of say 20 seconds followed by breaks of 20 to 60 seconds. Nadal’s ability to maintain intensity through the entire 20 second burst for the duration of the match is very impressive. It’s why Nadal wins a high percentage of long rallies and it’s absolutely demoralizing to his opponents.


Huh Says:

Today Nadal’s volleying and aggression was spell-binding!


montecarlo Says:

This physical player title is a joke. You people don’t watch tennis matches or what? Nadal showed more variety than Murray today. He got important points using slices, he got back in the tiebreaks using two volleys which would have made even stefan edberg proud. Most players hit same kind of serve again and again where Rafa can put in 4 different kind of serves everytime.

Talking about variety who you think got variety? Big serving ball bashers like Delpotro, Soderling, Berdych?

Counter punchers like Davydenko, Murray and Djokovic?

If we leave apart Federer currently Nadal is the player with most variety.


Huh Says:

Nadal has very much transformed from defensive to deadly offensive player!


montecarlo Says:

I just finished reading Nadal and Murray interviews. So much respect for each other. These are two really classy guys. Hats off.


Sazzy Falak Says:

Rafa fans;

Wimbledon 2010: Rafael Nadal wins with power, guts and even politeness.

• Rafael Nadal brings all his talents to fore against Andy Murray
• World No1 respectfully keeps emotions to himself

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/jul/02/wimbledon-rafael-nadal


ánima Says:

Well, I was right picking Nadal and Berdych, although I predicted one set more for both matches.
I think Nadal will win Wim in 4 sets…


grendel Says:

Asif says:”All of the analysis of forehands, backhands, serves, returns, etc is completely meaningless when one considers that Nadal is lightyears ahead of everyone else mentally. All of the guys in the top 10 have the games to beat one another on any given day, but Nadal has a far superior ability to keep it together mentally.”

Exactly!

Dory says:”Btw I think this year’s USO will be won by Federer again”. Why, Dory? Given that a player’s form is a pretty mysterious thing – absolutely no one, however knowledgeable about tennis, could possibly have foreseen either Fed’s AO form or his post AO form (rather a long stretch now)- we can’t rule out a Federer victory. He might well turn it all around, and I greatly hope he does. But what evidence is there that he will? At the moment, not very much, so it seems to me that for the time being all that we are really entitled to do is to hope.

The thing about the US Open this year so far as Nadal is concerned is this- there is one player who, when fit, is unquestionably superior to him on the fast hard courts, whilst being very strong upstairs as well, and that’s del Potro. But he won’t be there.

Of course there are others who can trouble Nadal and are perhaps marginally superior to him on the fast hard – Murray in particular – but there’s not much in it, and meanwhile Nadal has this huge advantage in his mental approach. The Nadal team, understanding perfectly well that not everything can be won, but having a particular desire to grab the US Open, will not have failed to notice that this year is Nadal’s best bet. If he misses his opportunity this year, there is a good chance he will never succeed.

Expect, then, all the focus to be on winning the US this year. In that scenario, would you bet against Nadal?


vinod Says:

Comm’on DEL and put rafa in his place !!!


jatt Says:

funny after reading Nadals interview, look at the last answer he gave :-

“Q. We’ve had three classic finals in a row here. Do you expect to give us a fourth one Sunday?

RAFAEL NADAL: Ah, three five sets? Yeah, we had 2007. I don’t know. Sure, will be very difficult match. Will be very difficult match for me, and hopefully for him, too (smiling). I don’t know.”

It sounds he has already figured birdy out and h infact watched the whole semis. It looks like the way he answered that question, it can be interpreted like this…

” Ah…hmm not a chance of any 5 sets this time.. I am very sure, birdy will be a good feast on sunday… becauz.. I am going to gobble him up too (smiling)….hehehe I dont know if i can eat him up in 3 sets or 4″

Sorry guys for sounding like an idiot but could not help when i read rafa comments


DH Says:

The US Open will, by far, be Rafa’s most difficult GS to win. The surface there does his game no favors. There are just too many good hard court players these days (Djoko, Murray, Fed, Soderling, Davydenko)….

The stars will need to align for Rafa to win there.
I do hope that he can


Huh Says:

Again some self-proclaimed objective tennis star needs to know that “perfect tennis player” means a guy whose “overall game” is the best of all time, i.e. whose game’s better than any of the present or past tennis players. And it’s by no means a Herculean task for a 5 year younger player to beat his chief rival in clay court, grass court and a hard court slam final, when his chief rival was playing far below his best due to various reasons which’re obviously very well known to everyone sensible. We all know what “the perfect tennis player” of the imperfect world used to do to his chief rival on hard, carpet and grass courts when at peak. Anybody who’s the least bit of objectivity can easily realise that “the perfect tennis player”, i.e. “the player with the most perfect game imaginable/playable until now” was “truly unbeatable” in his prime except on clay.


Huh Says:

“Again some self-proclaimed objective tennis star” in my 5.00 pm post must be read as

“Again some self-proclaimed objective poster”. Sorry for this typo error as this is the result of feeling dizzy, it’s already very late night here.


Huh Says:

One more thing which is needed to be thrown a little bit of light on here’s that perfection always contains precision as one of its most important elements. Slightest of imbalance in that perfection or precision due to the external factors is enough to hamper the perfection by “light years” gap! But that doesn’t mean, while it lasted in its stage of perfection, it was anything other than perfect and the best thing available or possible!


Tanya_Harding Says:

OMG – Did everyone witness that spectacular performance by Rafa. It was orgasmic!!

I told everyone he was the greatest player ever. He shouldn’t have any trouble whooping the lucky tall player who beat injured Roger.

I am truly sorry for the Murray and Fed fans but Rafa is a force of nature, never before seen in tennis.

#8 Sunday and counting. Yippie!!!!!!!


zola Says:

margot,Jane and other Andy fans,

I am sorry for Andy’s loss today. Rafa played a magnificent match and Andy played excellent. These two have so much respect for one another…Although I wanted Rafa to win, I could have lived with a win by Andy and his first Wimbledon trophy. I hope he gets one very soon.

Jane,
sorry for Djoko’s loss too. Must be hard. But seems like this is Berdych’s year like last year was Soderling’s. Disappointing for Djoko, but he has some great game. Maybe he was not in his best just now but his time will come.

Congratulations to my fellow Rafa fans. what a match and congratz to Berdych and his fans. It will be a very difficult match for Rafa on Sunday. I hope Rafa can continue playing at his best like he did today.


zola Says:

DH,

There is still some time to the US Open. Rafa needs to win this on Sunday and go to the US OPen with confidence.

He will not play the Davis cup and will have treatment on his right knee. I hope he can skip one of the master series and get some rest before US Open. He always arrives there beaten and tired. I want to see him healthy this time.


grendel Says:

Huh

I have a feeling you might be referring to me as “self-proclaimed objective poster”. If you are not, my apologies for being too sensitive. If you are, what I said was that I aimed at objectivity (sometimes), but that like everyone I always failed. I can’t myself see what is wrong with aiming at objectivity so long as one doesn’t take oneself too seriously in the process, because obviously one will be partly moved by all sorts of prejudices, not all of which one will even be aware of. And ignorance, too of course. And also, there’s nothing wrong with some trenchant partisanship, loudmouthed fandom if you prefer – that can be entertaining, get the ball rolling and so on. Takes all sorts, you know Huh.

As it happens, I don’t dissent from some of your points. Clearly, in comparing Federer and Nadal, it does not make sense not to take account of the quite big (in sporting terms) age gap between them. As a point of fact, Federer’s record against Nadal wasn’t that wonderful even in his glory days, but that’s mainly because Nadal wasn’t good enough to reach many nonclaycourt finals to play Federer, whilst Federer wasn’t bad enough not to reach claycourt finals and thus have to meet Nadal, if you take my meaning. That, among other things, is why h2h’s are pretty dubious, really, as a basis for comparing players.

Obviously, I greatly prefer Federer’s game to Nadal’s – although it can be a bit painful watching Fed these days – and to me it is much the more beautiful and natural tennis. Others feel differently. I don’t think you can be objective about something like that, I’m not even sure if it makes sense.

But possibly you can at least attempt objectivity in assessing the likely success of players. You will certainly fail, of course, but you can make the attempt. And my main point, Huh, such as it is, is that Nadal’s overwhelmingly greatest asset (and he concurs in this) is his mind. His game may well never match Federer’s (it won’t for me), that’s a matter of taste I daresay, but by any standards it’s unusually good, and in conjunction with his unprecedented mental attributes, all the big records lie waiting for him to take. That’s my suspicion.

And although that is in a way galling, it’s not so very dreadful if you think about it carefully. There are a number of peaks in tennis, as in other human activities, and Federer will always be one of them. So will Nadal, so will Lew Hoad – who broke no records at all, but is viewed by many as the most gifted human ever to handle a tennis racket.

That’s good enough for me. Sleep well, my friend.


sar Says:

do you think Andy’s forehand is letting him down, I mean it’s reliable but it’s not really a killer!
____________________________________________
Ike- Mcenroe said “I don’t see why he runs around his backhand–and the court’s open.” He also said Murray looks like a beaten man.

Carillo said: looks like Berdych is playing to win. I don’t get that feeling with Djokovic. His body language, his attitude, etc.

Tanya Harding,
I think Nadal is finally going to win USO this year.


grendel Says:

Zola says:

“It will be a very difficult match for Rafa on Sunday”.

Oh, Zola, Zola, do you now even SPEAK Nadalese? Nadal ALWAYS says that, and there is not the slightest reason to suppose he means it. For one thing, it doesn’t make sense. Something can only be difficult in comparison with something less difficult, or something easy. But in Nadalspeak, all prospective matches are always “very difficult”. Lol. (Wow! never said that before. Did seem appropriate here, however!)


sar Says:

Djok interview:
But the fact of the matter is that I didn’t deserve to win today, you know. It’s just as simple as that. I congratulate my opponent because he was a better player.


Von Says:

margot: I’m so sorry aith respect to Andy’s loss, but take heart, he’s young, and there will be many more GSs in his future. Patience my dear. It’s the prescription written by the Andys for their fans, and also, they request we take a periodic ride on a roller coaster.

Andy was gracious in defeat, which indeed, is a very rare character trait. Be proud of your guy!!
____________
To: Nadal and Berdych fans, all I can say is mazel tov!!


zola Says:

grendel,
lol! Nadalese?
So you are saying Berdych is not playing the best tennis of his life? beating Federer and Djokovic?
what does it say about Federer and Djokovic then?

Berdych is playing great tennis otherwise he wouldn’t be in the final. He moves better than Soderling and has the same explosive shots. He serves great and does not care much about Rafa.

Surely it is his first GS final and that might make him a bit nervous. But if he can overcome his nerves and keep playing the way he has been, Rafa has to come up with some good stuff to win. He has to concentrate and has to play aggressive. It is not going to be a walk in the park. It will be a difficult match! :)


zola Says:

Sar,
On eurosport I think Becker was talking about how much Djoko ia matured . The statement you posted from his post match interview and his ability for him to give credit to his opponent shows exactly that.


skeezerweezer Says:

montecarlo’s 2:11pm post

“….and you get a far better TENNIS PLAYER (and not GS player).”

Uh, Montecarlo, Moooooontecarloooo, you’re words, they are….like….find Corinthian leather!

Just playin wit ya :)

Seriously, you go ahead and make your rules about the better tennis player thing, I will respect his tennis playing professional peers of the game, even the words out of Rafa himself, as Fed as GOAT. His peers, both past AND present, have crowned him by his GS titles alone, the Greatest TENNIS player of All Time.

Fans can say what they want but History, but from way back to Rod L to Sampras to Fed, THE qualifying benchmark for GOAT is GS totals. Hey if Rafa gets to 16 and Fed gets no more, then I am sure the debate will begin. I know you are excited for your man, but Rafa has 9 more GS titles to go, so let’s just wait awhile and give Fed for now the credit he deserves.

This is a very tired subject, and IMO comes out when Fed loses and Rafa wins. How about as a Rafa fan just enjoying the moment for now? History will take of herself. I will tell you this, as of right now, especially if Rafa wins Wimby, which he should, will be the GOAT of 2010!

:)


jane Says:

xxxx back @ you margot.

Congrats to Rafa and Berdy fans.


grendel Says:

Zola

Quite possibly Berdych is playing the best tennis of his life – tennis which, as it happens, I greatly appreciate. I don’t go along at all with those who call him a ball basher. b.t.w. someone recently mentioned that Berdych reminded him of Safin, and I’ve always thought that. But one aspect of Safin’s game he lacks, Safin was quite capable of serve and volley when he was in the mood, and was always very deft around the net, an excellent volleyer in fact. Berdych has shown that he does have quite good feel at the net, but he is generally reluctant to go forward – and the lack of this dimension in his game (which he could surely rectify?) means, I suspect, that he has no real chance against Nadal. The first set will perhaps be tight, and by then, Nadal will have absorbed the info he needs to win.

But that’s not the point, Berdych could be playing his best tennis or his worst tennis or just ordinary tennis – and in each situation, Nadal would solemnly tell us all that it was going to be “a very difficult match”.


Tanya_Harding Says:

Zola,

I want Nadal to beat the tar out of this Berdych fellow fair and square. No double faults or lots of unforced errors. Just clean hard hitting tennis. I want each to play their best with Rafa holding the trophy at the end.

He is so adorable and humble.


zola Says:

grendel,

Rafa is Rafa. He repects his opponent. He does not “put them out of their Berych is one out of the 64 player in his side of the draw, who has reached the final of the most prestigeous GS. What should Rafa say? That he will beat him and the match will be easy?

This is how Rafa thinks . You may or may not believe it. He doesn’t think he is the most talented tennis player on earth and people are watching greatness by watching his matches. He think hehas to earn his matches and I like his attitude.

Tanya_Harding

I want Rafa to stay healthy and be able to produce another jaw dropping match like today. I hope Rafa can recover mentally from this match and go for the number 8. VAmos!

he is really adorable. The respect him and Andy have for one another is just amazing.


zola Says:

oops! what happened to my post?
correction:

He does not “put them out of their misery”!


grendel Says:

Zola: how d’you know that’s how Rafa thinks? I, on the contrary, believe that he thinks he will beat Berdych and that it will be a simpler match than his matches with Federer at Wimbledon. But he won’t say that. To be fair to him nor probably would anyone else in this situation. Nobody ever speaks the truth prematch – and not too many post match! It’s just that with Rafa, the formulas come rippling off the tongue and you can’t help noticing it….


zola Says:

grendel

How do YOU know how Rafa thinks? You don’t like him and think the worst about him. I don’t.


zola Says:

grendel,
this is an interesting article by Steve Tignor about the mindset of Rafa vs Roger’s:

http://espn.go.com/sports/tennis/blog/_/name/tennis/id/4392713/has-nadal-become-too-negative


grendel Says:

Not at all, Zola. I mean I agree I don’t like him,(just as you don’t like Federer, but you pretend to; come out of the closet, it is perfectly ok to like or dislike any player!)but I am not thinking the worst of him particularly – I said that all prematch talk is spin, from any player. That’s just how it is. But with Rafa, it’s so blatant it’s kind of funny.

Anway, time for bedibies. I wonder what Zvonereva is thinking right now. Do you think that she has any belief at all that she can beat Williams? Or deep down is she just wanting to put on a good show and not disgrace herself? I think Sharapova thought she had an outside chance, and she was amazingly gutsy – the triumph of will over experience, you might say, considering what Serena has done to her. Not sure about Zvonereva – lovely player, though. Goodnight.


zola Says:

grendel,
just in the other thread you say berdych might be Rafa’s most dangerous opponent. Yet here you are accusing him of “spinning”?

Aren’t you contradicting yourself?

I am out of the closet much more than you are. You are pseeimistic and think everyone has an agenda, especially if s/he is a RAfa fan. I respect Roger’s tennis. I think his tennis is (was) brilliant. But I think he is arrogant and self-centered and don’t like his “holier than thou” attitude.

If you want me to bash Federer for his press conference etc., I won’t . because I am human and it is obvious he is hurting.
Is that clear enough?


Seth Says:

Give the Fedal wars a rest, for heaven’s sake. They’re both all-time greats. Fed is five years older than Rafa. They’re at different points in the trajectories of their respective career arcs. Rafa is on the ascent, Fed is on the descent. It’s normal to be wowed by Rafa’s continued excellence (especially if you’re a Rafa fan). It’s normal to bemoan Fed’s decline (if you’re a Fed fan). But all of this inevitable. Give it 20 years, and let history judge.

I’m a huge Federer fan, but I respect Rafa and have grown to enjoy his game more and more. I hope he defeats Berdych on Sunday, if for no other reason to than to put the brakes on the Big-Tall-Guy-Bash-Bash brand of tennis that the game seems to be evolving toward. I get the socks bored off of me watching the likes of DelPo and Berdych.


zola Says:

seth,

There is no Fedal war if you are referring to my last post ( and if you are not, then my apologies).


Huh Says:

“grendel Says:

Huh

I have a feeling you might be referring to me as “self-proclaimed objective poster”. If you are not, my apologies for being too sensitive.”

NO GRENDEL, I WASN’T REFERRING TO YOU, I WAS REFERRING TO SOMEONE ELSE, IT WASN’T YOU AT ALL.
YOU’RE COOL! :D


grendel Says:

Zola

No, I am not contradicting myself. Of course, I was talking about the US Open. I trust it has not escaped your attention that different players have different strengths on different surfaces. Nadal at the moment seems more or less supreme on grass. Fast hard court, I believe, is Berdych’s optimum surface. I do think Tomas, and also Murray, will be Nadal’s most dangerous opponents in New York. Of course, there are plenty of other possibilities, including Federer – big question mark looms over him.

Well, it’s encouraging, you’re nearly out of the closet Zola. You still haven’t actually allowed yourself to say explicitly that you dislike Federer, but your self-righteous little character judgements don’t leave room for doubt.

As for whether everyone has an agenda or not, I said nothing. That’s a little bit beyond the scope of a tennis site, don’t you think? But I do maintain that public statements by tennis stars are strictly for the birds(which is not to say you can’t extract useful info from them, but you need a wary eye). And by any other stars, b.t.w. For instance, I’ve just been reading a book about the declining years of “New Labour” in England. You wouldn’t believe what goes on behind the scenes; the reasonably smooth facade which the party presents to the public has no consonance whatever with the truth. But I don’t think politicians, as public figures, are any different to anyone else. I doubt if this sort of thing can be avoided – look at history.

I’ve said elsewhere, Zola, that I think in private life, Nadal seems to be a personable and likeable young man. Insofar as he is a public figure, however, complications arise, inevitably. And yes, spin features hugely in the Nadal retinue.

If you don’t like doubts being cast on the sincerity of your hero, I can understand that – but we’re all only human, you know,in the case of Federer for example it makes no sense coming to slick character assassination without putting his behaviour in the context of his megafame, something of which none of us on TennisX has the least experience. Maybe it would be best to call a moratorium on all character judgements, and stick to the tennis – trouble is, the mental side of tennis is so disproportionately large, that would be difficult.

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