Nadal v. Murray, Federer v. Djokovic as Top 4 Collide in Toronto
by Sean Randall | August 14th, 2010
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It’s hard to do better than the schedule we have today at the Toronto Rogers Cup super Saturday semifinals which feature the top four ranked players in tennis doing battle. On first is top seed Rafael Nadal against Andy Murray. In the evening it’s Roger Federer facing off against Novak Djokovic.

Before I dive into today’s matches, a quick recap of an eventful and dramatic Friday quarterfinal round.

First, what happened to David Nalbandian and Tomas Berdych? Did they both reset to their old ways yesterday right before our eyes?

Nalbandian had won 11 straight matches and was the undisputed hottest player on the planet. But yesterday in a dreary 6-2, 6-2 loss to Andy Murray, “Fat Dave” went “Flat Dave”. Credit to Murray for taking a more aggressive approach, but Nalbandian littered errors all over the court and looked lifeless at times. In fact, he looked like the old Dave.

“Well, when I have little tired I arrive to the ball a little slower and a little far away from the ball, so maybe my shots wasn’t as good as the other day,” Nalbandian said. “So maybe the fatigue was wasn’t on that way, not completely tired, but when you are a little bit not that fast in this level, it’s tough.”

I thought David might feel it in his legs against Soderling but he held out longer. Hopefully, he can regain that freshness for Cincinnati confirming that this run he had isn’t another one-off.

I thought after his second win over Federer en route to the final at Wimbledon, and his semifinal at Roland Garros, that Berdych had shaken the choker label. Well, it dramatically returned last night against Roger.

Federer was in full control of the match early on, serving well, playing aggressive and winning nearly every net point. But late in the second Federer got sloppy and couldn’t covert on a few break chances allowing Berdych to hang around. And the big man hung around long enough to earn a break chance and when he got it he took it to seize the second set.

Credit to Berdych who I think in previous years would have simply “gone away” in that second set, but mentally he’s a better, more resilient player now.

The third set was touch-and-go. Federer wasn’t as effective with his aggressive gameplan while Berdych was slowly honing his groundstrokes and gaining length (And strength). And it paid off as the Czech raced out to a 5-2 lead. Federer held and Berdych served for the match at 5-3.

But that’s when the pro-Federer crowd really grew unruly, yelling out just before Tomas made contact and making comments during mid-toss, and I think it really hindered Berdych who fell apart at that crucial moment. Federer got the break back and eventually prevailed in third set breaker 6-3, 5-7, 7-6(5).

“I think the part of the game is the luck, as well,” Berdych said referring to a lucky netcord winner Federer hit on the first point down at 5-3. “And this aspect I was just missing a little bit today, you know. It was little more on his side, and, you know, it was just about one, two points in the tiebreak.”

It was another close, exiciting match between the two – what a rivalry Federer-Berdych is turning into.

In the other two quarterfinals, Nadal struggled but survived Phil Kohlschreiber 3-6, 6-3, 6-4 while Djokovic dismantled Jeremy Chardy 6-2, 6-3.

As for today…

Andy Murray v. Rafael Nadal
I know Murray looked good yesterday and ESPN’ers said it was Murray’s best match since Australia, but again Nalbandian showed up DOA. Nadal’s not going show up DOA today.

This will be their 12th meeting and Nadal leads 8-3. The three wins for Murray came when Rafa may not have been at his physical best. Not to make excuses, but recall the US Open in 2008 when Nadal was worn out. In 2009 Rotterdam Nadal was troubled by his knees and again earlier this year in Australia Rafa retired in the quarterfinals.

Said Nadal of Murray, “I think here is the favorite surface for him. The hardcourt I think is the surface that is more difficult to beat him. I had good battles against him in every surface, but on hard I have few wins, win Australia in 2005 and 2007, I think, or like this year in Australia was a good match, I think. I had to retire in the beginning, but it was a great match. Last year in Indian Wells was too windy, and in Rotterdam I was injured. So always was tough, and he’s playing well. He did a very good match today and will be very difficult tomorrow, for sure.”

The game plans are fairly simple: Murray has to be offensive-minded and attack Nadal’s second serve. If he gets too defensive Nadal will rout him if the Spaniard’s on. Nadal needs to play his game and cut down on the errors.

Today, Nadal should be ready to go and even though he’s not in his best form, I think it will be enough to get through the defending champ.
My pick: Nadal in two

Novak Djokovic v. Roger Federer
This match is a real coin flip.

Under trial coach Paul Annacone, Federer has looked good in patches this week and not so good in others. I think he should have closed out Berdych in straight sets yesterday but he didn’t. He then got lucky in some ways to have won that match after being down 5-2 in the third. And apart from his serve and netplay, I didn’t like his ground game. His forehand was spraying at times and his backhand was dropping short leaving it open for attack.

Djokovic once again has been the forgotten man this week (isn’t he always?). He struggled in the heat on Wednesday, was afforded a later start in a win on Thursday then late last night he trounced Chardy in straight sets. So if nothing else he’s improving each round and that’s always a good thing. Plus, he’s the only guy yet to lose a set.

And while Fed holds the series lead at 9-5, Novak has won three of the last five beating Federer in 2009 on his home court in Basel and at the Masters events in Miami and Rome. Federer did get him at Cincinnati and at the US Open but that Basel win should give Novak the confidence and comfort to handle the pro-Fed crowd tonight.

Said Djokovic yesterday of playing Federer, “Well, it has to be a positive mentality; otherwise I wouldn’t be looking to get on the court, you know. I played so many times with Federer. Most of the matches we have played was on this surface, and there’s not much to talk about. He’s a big champion and he showed why he’s one of the best players in the world. Today he pulled up a great win even though he was down 5 2 in the third. He has big support of the crowd here. He plays well throughout the whole week. It’s gonna be a tough one, but, you know, semifinals, you never know what’s gonna happen.”

And he’s right. For Novak to win he’s got to be right between the ears. And he also needs to serve well and be sharp with his passing shots because I think Federer’s going to do a lot of attacking and coming in tonight.

Pink Fed’s been playing an ultra aggressive game this week which is fine, but I get the feeling he’s really calibrating this gameplan to peak for the faster courts in New York. This week is more experimentation and testing and he’s willing to take some lumps if it can help down the road. And I think tonight he’ll take a few more and with Novak rounding into form I’ll take a flyer and pick the Serb to get it done tonight.
My pick: Djokovic in three

And good news, I believe both matches are on live on ESPN2!

SATURDAY TORONTO SCHEDULE

CENTRE COURT start 1:00 pm
F Cermak (CZE) / M Mertinak (SVK) vs J Benneteau (FRA) / M Llodra (FRA)

Not Before 3:00 PM
[1] R Nadal (ESP) vs [4] A Murray (GBR)

Not Before 7:00 PM
[3] R Federer (SUI) vs [2] N Djokovic (SRB)
[4] M Bhupathi (IND) / M Mirnyi (BLR) vs [2] B Bryan (USA) / M Bryan (USA)


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642 Comments for Nadal v. Murray, Federer v. Djokovic as Top 4 Collide in Toronto

Kimmi Says:

“This will be their 12th meeting and Nadal leads 8-3. The three wins for Murray came when Rafa may not have been at his physical best. Not to make excuses, but recall the US Open in 2008 when Nadal was worn out. In 2009 Rotterdam Nadal was troubled by his knees and against earlier this year in Australia Rafa retired in the quarterfinals.”

not to make excuses. yap! and you are making them sean. i bet if Murray wins today, you will all say nadal is not 100% after a long vacation.

very sad!!


Kimmi Says:

Goodluck – Muzza
Goodluck – federer

also in cincy. glad sharapova and ivanovic are finding out their best game.

Go kim. for all others, let the best man win.


Anna Says:

Hope to see Rafole in the finals. They started this tourney on the same side of the court, it would be great to see them playing opposite each other for the win.

Many, many things are selective, but I’ve never heard of selective asthma (with selective hearing one hears only what they want to hear – typical of husbands/boyfriends). I think along with asthma Nole has allergy related sinus issues too.
Everytime he tries to draw a deep breath through his nose he sucks his nostrils shut. That shouldn’t be happening. He’s a fighter.


Kimmi Says:

“Go kim. for all others, let the best man win”

s/b..the best woman…


jane Says:

” For Novak to win he’s got to be right between the ears. And he also needs to serve well and be sharp with his passing shots because I think Federer’s going to do a lot of attacking and coming in tonight.”

Seems to be a good projection Sean. Not sure who’ll win. I feel the edge may go to Fed, after the squeaker yesterday and the confidence that would follow with a win like that.

“Murray has to be offensive-minded and attack Nadal’s second serve. If he gets too defensive Nadal will rout him if the Spaniard’s on. Nadal needs to play his game and cut down on the errors.”

This also seems right; I’d add that Murray needs to put away mid-court balls, and attack those too. Wawrinka was having some good success in doing so. And for Rafa, he’s got to cut down on errors, because look how Murray made Nalby pay for those.

Anyhow, I do hope both matches are great!


Andrew Miller Says:

Yeah I would take Djokovic over Fed today also – I agree with Mr. Randall on that. I think Murray may beat Nadal in three. I really don’t think Nadal and Co. (Tony) will take chances in the Masters that will then ruin their chances at the US Open.

Seriously, this is the Nadal strategy: play at peak form and don’t kill the golden goose. If you are not playing at peak form and you feel slightly worse, withdraw, immediately. It paid off: the 2009 Hiatus after the French Open turned into a decent 2009 US Open run and 2010′s excellent return to form.

So I think Toni being the older and wiser member of the clan says listen: you hear anything happen or feel a blister or anything like that Rafa, and we going to vamos out of here.


Andrew Miller Says:

(So maybe it’s less strategic losses by Nadal than strategic withdrawals. I still think the way the Nadals manage things these days are: Pay for the issue now by withdrawing from the match and forgoing heroic five set or three set battles that may ruin your career if they ruin your knees, and reap the rewards later at Slams)


Andrew Miller Says:

Nadal = Serena?


jane Says:

Andrew, when Rafa retired at the AO this year, it certainly was a smart move in the long run, as his complete clay domination and Wimbledon title can attest. Yes, better to pay now a smaller fee than have to pay more later.


Twocents Says:

Spot on, Andrew Miller.


Twocents Says:

Final: Murray vs. Djok
Winner: Djok


blank Says:

Sean,

I don’t agree with your statement that all of Murray’s wins over Nadal have come when Nadal was not at his best. At the AO this year, whatever Nadal’s injury was, it didn’t kick in until the 3rd set. He was playing as well as I have seen him play in the 1st 2 sets. And simply, Murray played better and would have won anyway.


blank Says:

Twocents,

I know you are a Fed fan. But these days, why are you not giving him any chance even in your picks? You are cutting him too much slack :-)


sheila Says:

missed the 3rd set of federer/berdych, but am so glad roger pulled it out. did watch the nadal/kolshreiber match & after listening to brad gilbert, i think he has a definite man crush on nadal. nadal is a god 2 him, it sounds like. “rafa this, rafa that, rafa, rafa, rafa”. no doubt brad should ask him out. and amazing how federers pink shirt got knocked & nadals neon pink shirt was terrific. i’d say some bias from the so called neutral announcers.


jane Says:

Nadal said he was fine in the AO match with Murray until he tweaked his knee late in the second set (interview excerpt below). So yes, Murray was winning and Nadal said Murray’s level was near to the best he’d seen; in particular, Rafa commented on Andy’s serve, which I think will be key for Andy today.

————
“Yes, well, is not a lot of history because was during the match. Was in the end of the second set in one drop. And I feeled similar thing to what I had last year.

And, yes, after that I can’t go down after that, no? So was impossible to win the match. When I have the chance to play, I never retired. Anyway, like I know I going to lose like I did in Rotterdam like last year. I say sorry to Andy for that.

I felt pain still there without no one minimum chance to do nothing, the same time is hard for me be five more games there without try nothing, no? So I don’t know if I still playing can go worst or something. So I said, well, no repeat the same mistake like I had last year. I go to the limit, but not cross the limit, no?”
——————

Basically this excerpt confirms what Andrew was saying too. Nadal is no longer going to push himself, if it risks flaring up his knee issues to a dangerous level again. He’s listening to his body, which is smart, precisely what he needs to do to maintain a long, healthy career.


Von Says:

WOW, Two Cents, you’ve got the final all figured out. Wanna tell me the numbers for tonight’s lottery?


contador Says:

for what it’s worth, i am staying with my pick nadal today.

the disclaimer is: yeah, i think he’s not going to risk even a blister, let alone a bit of knee pain to win. it simply makes strategic sense to not exert his usual level of fight to win this one and risk not being 100% for the US Open.

as for winning all on clay two things come to mind: 1) he rules the surface and it’s easier on the knees. 2) hc is tougher on his knees and by this time in the season he has accomplished a huge athletic feat winning all clay anad wimbledon. sure, he’s young and had weeks off but that doesn’t change the history of the matter. his schedule in the past has not helped his chances for US Open nor ending the year in one piece. i think team nadal will be looking to reign in their star for his 3rd GS, 1st ever us open win.

if the winning is relatively easy today, tomorrow and in cincinnati, sure, take it all, if not, he’ll not play all his cards now.

murray has nothing to lose really. he’s also young, extremely fit, good on hc and in these hot conditions. my questions about murray are not his about his overall abilities, it’s about getting the mindset back after AO. a win over rafa today would be a big step toward getting back the andy of 2008.

i think i just talked myself into rafa losing to murray! : )

it would be a win-win for both going into US Open….in a crazy kind of way,


contador Says:

meant 3rd GS for nadal this year. wow


andrea Says:

i hope murray wins over nadal – he needs a good solid win over him.

novak played really well last night against chardy, but chardy isn’t as versatile as fed. so, i have to agree it’s a toss up. patchy fed vs time out novak. another 3 set thriller would be great.


Twocents Says:

blank, I even have mixed feeling about Fed taking yesterday’s win over Berdy: he’s got a good match, better to reserve the luck for slam? Same with today’s SF. As long as Fed fought hard, a loss here is not a bad thing.

Von, don’t kill the messenger. Enjoy the weekend :-)).


madmax Says:

Crossing everything for Federer to go out again tonight and play a corker to show all the doubters here that he ain’t going anywhere!

Good luck to the nole fans too – hopefully this will be another great match!


margot Says:

From yesterday:
Two cents: for the record it was Judy who walked out of family home, very unusual for a woman. The boys lived with their father, William, till Andy went to Spain. He’s not in the tennis world so is obviously not as high profile as Judy, but was at Wimbledon.
grendel: yes, I think it’s far more important for Andy to win than Rafa to lose. Rafa will just shrug and move on to the main prize, like he did after Queens, but Andy…?
kimberly: Soderling?? Really?? Can I re -spec- fully suggest new specs?
Anna: re crowd, same thing happened to Andy at RG and he lost his serve. Regrettably it does happen at Wimbles, think Hanescu.
von: those commentators are gr8! Just like long married couples-back chatting, joking..sniping..
And now today…
jane: here we gooo, hope their serves are working OK, then they’re in with a gr8 chance say us!


contador Says:

about dear federer, i say mission accomplished fot toronto, please…but i doubt he’d agree : )

YAY federer! still celebrating about beating berdych, even if it was a very slim victory, indeed.

grrrr berdych. strange, i thought i liked him. it’s definitely the tension i feel when he is in federer’s draw that put’s him on my blacklist.

losing to nole is not the same tension. i really like djoko and hope he can get manage his breathing issues. anxiety can’t be ruled out as having a role.

he is still my pick in 2.


tennisfansince76 Says:

unlike in years past Nadal does not really have to sweat the small stuff. his focus is the USO. hi spt slead is so commanding that all he has to do is maintain enough to get over the finish line #1 which is all but assured. a nice position to be in in August, no? and is it just me or did Fed really really need the pts last night. at this pt he needs all the pts he can get. i would say since June he has played no better than 5-8 in the world. that is what qtrs mean after all. top 8.
being a fed fan now means sweaty palms all the time. it is nerve wracking. I may seek professional help. it used to be that being a fed fan meant a club med attitude. the worst that could happen is somebody might win a set off of him. you just sat back and waited for some mind blowing shotmaking and then vicariously shared in the regal coronation of king Fed. oh how i miss those days. now almost every fed match is like a nervous breakdown. my nerves are shot. Fed has killed my nerves. oh well must be what it is like to be a baghdatis or Djokovic fan.
and is it just me or is Fed having more uh oh moments on court. it used to be during Fed’s halcyon days that on a tense pt in a match he often pulled off a creative shot or angle that made pmac say “are you kidding me?”. now it seems he is much more likely to make some heinous looking shot that has one saying “what the hell was that?” anyway just my disjointed thoughts on this foggy sat morning.


grendel Says:

“grrrr berdych. strange, i thought i liked him. it’s definitely the tension i feel when he is in federer’s draw that put’s him on my blacklist.”

I like it, Contador! When Berdych was showing us his regal talents, but still managing more or less predictably to lose (to Fed that is), he was kind of lovable.

But now he’s kind of menacing, a great tall blonde warrior bent on showing a slightly fragile (these days) Fed the door!

Of course the upside is, perhaps he can show other undesireables the door as well, although he does seem to be rather meanly picking on poor old Fed. I haven’t noticed him doing anything beastly to Nadal for a number of years…

As for Djokovic, he is, after all, #2, has been in the wars of late – and so one can afford to feel generous to him. So if he wins tonight, one will look on with a degree of benignity.

However, if he beats Fed in US Open, I suspect the mask will slip, and the black list will increase by one…..


Von Says:

margot: I’m happy to know that we agree on the commentators. I find them to be very insightful, fair, and informative. I don’t think that they hate any player. They chat back and forth about what they see, and maybe some people are offended. However, in their field of work, they cannot please everyone.


Von Says:

grendel: whose black list will increase in numbers? Yours, Fed’s or both?


Von Says:

A little tid-bit on Fed’s match last night, with respect to crowd support.

http://craighickmanontennis.blogspot.com/2010/08/he-needed-crowd.html


Kimmi Says:

and the story continues…

ivanovic retires. I was looking forward to this match. oh well..congrats clijsters for reaching another final.

It will be nice if sharapova wins her semi match so that we have kim vs maria final..


margot Says:

grendel: about Rafa, apparently he practises for 7 hours a day!! Rafa’s astonishing, for me at anyrate, accuracy on those lines comes out of graft, graft and more graft. Whereas darling Kim C just practises for 30 minutes a day…and rather regrettably I think it showed somewhat at Wimbledon….
I watched Delpot and Fed at O2 and Delpot was hitting the serve so hard you couldn’t see it and ….Fed was getting it back!! But I love live everything even popcorn filled cinema.


grendel Says:

“Fed has killed my nerves. oh well must be what it is like to be a baghdatis or Djokovic fan.”

I disagree tennisfansince76. The point is, as Fed fans, we had it easy as you say. Now our privileges have been withdrawn, and either we resent this mightily – like the aristocrats in the Fench Revolution who harboured strong objections to having their heads chopped off – or we inhabit la la land, and dreamily maintain that all is well in the garden of Federer, he is simply taking a kind of extended sabbatical, and soon he will be back, more terrible than ever.

“now it seems he is much more likely to make some heinous looking shot that has one saying “what the hell was that?” – yes, I share that feeling. A perfectly normal ball which you assume Fed will return in a normal sort of way will suddenly go sailing way beyond the tramlines, and one turns to the chap next to one and asks in bewildered tones:”a lot of spin on that ball, do you think?” He, however, will simply shake his head, equally baffled.

Meanwhile, Federer will turn round to resume play, and you might think he would show signs of embarrassment, but not at all, his left eywbrow twitches slightly to register the anomaly, and he
bends down preparing to receive just as if nothing untoward has occured.

Such sangfroid, you can’t help thinking.


blank Says:

Twocents,

I agree. Let us reserve the luck for the USO :-) Btw, rain is forecast for all day tomorrow…so there is a chance the finals may get delayed. And who ever is in the finals, it’s not certainly good for them for next week, at Cincy.

Von,

I was fortunate to be in the crowd yesterday! Had the best time watching a tennis match live. Trust me, Berdy lost the game where he was serving for the match purely because of the voracious crowd support (including me!) which was totally behind him every sec. The atmosphere was unbelievable. I got home at 12:30pm and couldn’t sleep till 4am. That’s how exciting it was!


contador Says:

hello grendel-

my blacklist is short atm. i may have had djoko and murray on it 2 years ago when at the peak of my clucking and quacking, protecting the golden egg, feeling federer truly was vulnerable for the first time in 2008, especially after rafa beat federer at wimbledon. oh, rafa went to the top of the blacklist fast!

i joke about benneteau being on it. soderling for some reason does not give me the same tension. i think it’s the difference in attitudes between soderling and berdych. i see soda pop as one who truly does respect federer, though he’s overcome the line of too much awe and will beat fed.

same with delpo. i love delpo, even as he beat federer last september. and a roddick win over federer is fine also.

maybe i have to have a minimum of one bad guy / villain character in the mix to make the story more exciting.

i am sure he is a nice guy : ) but i don’t want him near federer!


grendel Says:

Von -mine, I guess, a la Contador.. By the way, that link you provided – pretty strong anti-Fed stuff! But we can take it on the chin….


grendel Says:

Contador – wasn’t there some animus between Federer and Berdych following a Davis Cup tie? Federer scraped a win against the Bird – they are evenly matched, these two, aren’t they? – and Tomas was muttering afterwards that he knew he could beat Federer, or something along those lines.

I agree, no exciting tennis match is possible without a hero and a villain, not that you quite said that, but still. Things get very strange though when in the course of the match you find yourself warming to the villain till in the end the players have swapped roles! I have had that happen more than once, I don’t know how common the experience is.


jane Says:

I enjoy tennis matches when I could care less who wins. I recall one between Gonzales and Monaco a couple years back that was super exciting, great tennis, didn’t know who’d win. When one started to lose, I’d root for him to come back, but when he came back, I’d root for the other one. And so forth. Can be fun, imo, and maybe even more exciting? Certainly less stressful, since the stakes aren’t so high when not invested in one player, and the outcome will be happy for whomever wins.


rave Says:

I doubt Murray will win today. When he lost to Nadal at Wimbledon , he said I just love to watch nadal platy, and i do not mind losing to him . Mind you I am paraphrasing. With that attitude I dout Murray can beat Nadal.

I am a Fed fan all the way. Did not get the chance to see the Fed Byrd match. I am glad he won. I am glad the crowd were behind him He says that having the crowd behind him makes him play better. Delpo had the Argentines behind him at USO, Roddick in Miami.

My nerves are shot too when Fed plays. I cannot eat or sleep or concentrate on anything. I hope he wins more slams and more ATP titles. Seems like Fed has a few things he still needs to work on with himself and his coach. As for me, as long as he never gives up, I will never give up. Go, Roger, Go.


madmax Says:

tennisfan,

laughing at your comment:

“being a fed fan now means sweaty palms all the time. it is nerve wracking. I may seek professional help”.

You should hire a spot at the Edinburgh festival, I’d come and see you live!

Yes, I do know what you mean, but don’t you think by pitting against federer every time he has an opponent and choosing his competitor to win, kind of defeats the object of being a federer fan?

You take the good with the bad and more often than not, particularly, these last 7 years, how we have been spoilt to witness such a sublime, unique player of the ages- no one matches him.

Quite often – especially his match today – cowan pointed out federer’s footwork and balance – it is unmatched. It’s quite the dish of the day when he is in mid flight with a shot. He still is able to provide us fans with morsels of his delightful play, but obviously it is not as consistent.

But we cannot expect him to perform at such a high level year in, year out.

Think about it. We are all professionals here – some days at work are better than others, and we place an inordinate amount of selfish pressure on federer, as his captive audience, to perform for us! how dare he have an off day.

And when those ‘off’ days come, the press, can be so vicious, writing him off for the last 2 years now.

Supporting Federer is one of life’s pleasures to me, I can completely appreciate the others on tour, and am growing to enjoy watching murray play as he becomes a more mature player – and having discussions with both margot and jane have helped here.

I know I would rather watch seeing federer play than for him not to play again – that day – in the years ahead will come – and it will be a sad day for tennis. I don’t know how fans must have felt when Sampras or Agassi retired. I would imagine bereft for a while.

But every champion, one day will be off kilter more than before – to me, that doesn’t mean you desert them as a fan, but reassess their game, as the player does himself. And let’s face it. Federer has made a step in the right direction.

It is working with Annacone. You can see the changes to federer’s game. Still a work in progress, I know, but nevertheless a big plus to Federer. The criticism that he has faced at such a high leverl, I don’t know how he copes staying so calm and controlled. For the most part he becomes even more incredible, the way he holds everything together when sometimes, he must want to burst a blood vessel.

I read some comments on RF.COM, and he truly feels emotional about the support from his fans and I really believe this means a lot to him and helps him refocus on his game.

If it means my palms are sweatier every now and again and more than before, it’s a small price to pay for the pleasure of having watched him play. I’m the lucky one.

Margot/Jane, are you ready? Good luck girls :)


steve Says:

Because Nadal is a lefty, and hits with such spin, Murray can use his backhand almost as if it were a forehand, as his primary offensive shot. That ability is key to his winning.

Hard courts seem to let him hit through Nadal more.

Last year Murray was the king of best-of-three sets matches on hardcourt. This year not so much.


contador Says:

blank-

really, you were there!! thanks for cheering for me! awesome.

grendel, i don’t know when the animus started for them but for me, it was AO 09. if he’s not in federer’s draw, i like him. (no, not really) come to think of it i was really bummed that dolgo lost to him. berdych and his phony thigh injury and mto… ; )

jane- this murray / nadal match will be one i can simply enjoy. and i hope it’s a 3 setter with a great performance by both!


madmax Says:

Let’s go girls and boys! It’s hammer time!


jane Says:

contador, I was just realizing that all four of these guys have won in Canada! How cool is that? Makes for potentially very exciting semi-finals, and I hope they are. Here we go, Muzza and Rafa coming to court.


grendel Says:

margo – re Nadal practising all those hours. I am reading a book called “Bounce: How Champions Are Made” by Mattew Syed, who used to be England’s#1 table tennis player, and is now a sports journalist. Broadly, Syed’s thesis is that “talent” is a myth, and the secret of success is work + a correct mindset (in which “truth” is irrelevant, b.t.w.). I think he goes a bit overboard, it can’t be true that genetics has no role to play, but even so he provides some very interesting and compelling stories. Note, by the way, that it is not just “work” – which can be self-defeating – but, in the jargon, “purposeful work”. Nadal seems to fit this bill perfectly.

Did Kim C really only practice 30 min a day? I watched her being beaten – a terrible performance, but that’s Kim. Never know what to expect.

I have become horribly garrulous, and I now have an excuse to shut up, because the tennis is starting.


blank Says:

Contador,

Yes, I was there! And the whole thing was indescribably good!!


contador Says:

*sigh* blank…someday.

c’mon espn2, the little league kiddies are cute but please…get some tennis on!

okay, going to a live stream again.


Chris Says:

How can be late with coverage past two days because of little. League baseball. Not even the world series.


Kimmi Says:

GO Muzza.

Aggressive aggressive.


jane Says:

Thanks for the cheers madmax. : )

Good start from Murray Kimmi, margot – he has a wicked flat and angled serve when it’s firing.


contador Says:

that’s right muzza, no mo mr nice guy.


jane Says:

Nadal is also starting with less rust today, but Murray is running him around. I notice Nadal is hitting his shots with more length today. He knows he’d better.

Looks a little windy today. The line judge’s shorts are billowing.


Kimmi Says:

Going long murray a.t.m. C’mon


jane Says:

What’s that mark/scar on the back of Murray’s calf? Never noticed it before. On this big screen I don’t miss much. ; )

Murray really whacking that ball today!


Kimmi Says:

great HOLD! after a little scare 15-30

Keep going muzza


blank Says:

Windy is not good for Murray. We all know how the IW finals went last year when these two were playing.


madmax Says:

very aggressive murray. this is a good sign.


contador Says:

lives stream commentators going on about how great spain is as a sporting nation……finally they mention Contador!

that was better muzza. 2-1

much better start from rafa


Kimmi Says:

I think it is a birth mark jane. I have seen it before..loooots of times.


margot Says:

jane: dunno re scar but always there.
Hmm, first serve percentage needs to go up and needs to NOT net volleys and hit those lines…we’ll see early doors..


Kimmi Says:

Good idea that dropper muzza..just missed it


contador Says:

i have noticed it, it looks like a birthmark. gorbachev had one on his forehead. not that it matters, i just remember it.


Kimmi Says:

YES muzza. break him


Kimmi Says:

That FH down the line is brutal from nadal


contador Says:

battle at deuce on rafa’s serve.


jane Says:

Very good match already!! Loving it.

Burwash just said that tennis is one of the fasting growing sports and that in the USA, it was the only sport that grew last year, with all others going backwards! Not quite sure what he means in terms of growth, but it’s a cheering prospect!! GO TENNIS.


contador Says:

nadal is not giving any gifts.

he holds


Kimmi Says:

errors muzza..try to clean up those errors at big points


blank Says:

The TORONTO sign painted on the court is 10 feet behind the baseline. And Murray is standing behind that during most rallies. That to me is too defensive.


contador Says:

awww too much adrenaline muzz. hold your serve, buddy


Kimmi Says:

some of muzza big serve are going in a.t.m get going Muzz. GO GO GO!


contador Says:

very sold hold by muzz.

loving this match so far

3-2 muzz


margot Says:

Of course Rafa has come out playing much better against Andy than he did against Kohli- damn him!
But I like Andy’s play, he’s taking it to Rafa, hence the inaccuracies on the line.
Come on Andy!


jane Says:

Thanks for all the feedback on Murray’s scar/birthmark; no idea why I didn’t notice it before. Anyhow, Murray is serving well margot. If he is defending his second serve points then it doesn’t matter too much about firsts. But of course it almost ALWAYS easier for players when they get those first serves in. 4 aces and 63% firsts is pretty good I think margot! Rafa’s got 0 aces and 36% first serves!!!

But the commentators are actually saying how the “return” game has become so much more important in today’s tennis, so it’s not all about holding serve. They said the most dynamic and exciting players to watch have good serve AND return games. I suppose that makes sense, and presumably most guys at the top have both.

I remember blacklisted Berdych saying how much he has worked on both his movement and his return game. Which could explain his renaissance or break through this year. Plus there’s a clear confidence that came with that.


Kimmi Says:

rafa first serve only 36%..it looks like it. he is not getting them in a.t.m

But his second serve is one of the best, with so much spin. not easy to attack

Muzza, errors on big points again..C’mon muzza


Kimmi Says:

0-30 danger c’mon muzza


Kimmi Says:

oh noo


jane Says:

Judy Murray’s haircut, like Emma Watson’s new Mia Farrow do, looks very nice on her. She seems like such a supportive mum.

Careful Murray!!! Better hold here.


contador Says:

yeah. pardon me for bringing up gulbis but he was able to “neutralize” the karlovic serve last spring in del ray. erno has the reach and quick reflexes. i know, he has a lot of issues…

break chances for rafa


Ike Says:

Kimmi,
don’t worry, Andy will beat Rafa in 3 sets


contador Says:

one bp left for rafa


Kimmi Says:

the serve was double fault OUCH!!


contador Says:

ad murray

this is crucial


jane Says:

Important for Murray to hold here. Looking quite gusty a.t.m.; that could explain some of the errors.


Ike Says:

anyone remembers, (they say) Tony Nadal spend hours watching Murray’s serve action (especially that wrist snap), trying to implement that in Rafa’s serve?
Really, Murray’s serve action is great to idolize!


Kimmi Says:

Ike – i don’t know, i hope. Muzza needs to hold here…hope that duble faults does not come back to haunt him. HOLD MUZZ


Ike Says:

Btw, I still can’t get over the fact that Berdych lost to Fed yesterday :(


margot Says:

Groan, groan MAndy’s first serve has deserted him. Its gotta pick up or he’s going to lose :(


contador Says:

arrrrrg

another battle at deuce for andy


jane Says:

Okay Murray is now down to 46% first serves margot, so more reason to be a little concerned. He needs an easy point or two versus Rafa.


margot Says:

Shows how distressed I am! Would NEVER call him “Mandy.”!!!!


Ike Says:

don’t worry Margot, Andy will be just fine!


jane Says:

Phew, important hold.


Kimmi Says:

HOLD..YES! now break dear


Ike Says:

Kimmi, if I remember correctly, u r located in Canada right?


Ike Says:

Hey Contador, how is Yellowstone?


Ike Says:

Hey Contador, how is Yellowstone or Rockies, I forgot.


montecarlo Says:

Nadal robbed by Linesman there and looked very disappointed after that bad call. This break would have totally changed the match.


margot Says:

Hi! Love your crystal ball.. but that serve.. guess its the wind :(


Ike Says:

Hey Jane, where u from? (I know it’s none of my business, but I just like to remember people & their location combination)


madmax Says:

Ike, it’s great news for federer fans though :)

Andy playing well, he needs to more aggressive on his serve though. No pussy footing about Andy!

Be a sharpie!


Ike Says:

btw, I hope Novak beats Fed tonight (in 3 sets, just like he did in 2007)


Kimmi Says:

I love murray “grunt” so soft…


Kimmi Says:

break point..Gooo Murray


contador Says:

Ike-nice and cold at nite. perfect during the day with the occasional thunderstrom. it’s stunning to live in a volcano!

bp muzz


Ike Says:

@ montecarlo
at least tennis has hawk-eye, think about when England were robbed off that goal against Germany, (I can’t believe there are still some people who think World cup matches should be played just like the way they play in Parks…with minimum technology)


fed is afraid Says:

roger better lose to novak
he sure doesn’t want to
lose to rafa again!!


Kimmi Says:

BREEEEEEAK..exactly waht I asked for. GO GO GO Muzza


Ike Says:

here we go Kimmi


contador Says:

murray got it 5-3

nadal is verrry angry now


contador Says:

hahaha fed is afraid.


montecarlo Says:

AS expected after that bad call Nadal’s game totally switched off resulting in the break and probably the set.


margot Says:

Now Andy just hold your serve is that so very difficult to do?? jane :) for you..


jane Says:

What a turn around; Murray fighting to hold and Rafa looking in charge, and then Murray comes back and breaks. It’s extra unusual how low Rafa’s first serve percentage is.

Meanwhile 8 aces for Murray!

First set Murray’s.


i am it Says:

Not only because Murray breaks and takes the 1st set, he is on the right track to upset the No. 1. Good for the Scot.


contador Says:

murray has some ace mojo going on


Ike Says:

@ contador
“it’s stunning to live in a volcano!”
I don’t know about that :)
Our New England area is great too!


Kimmi Says:

montecarlo..nadal should have challenged..he didn’t. bad calls happens.

DF..Muzza..hold please


Kimmi Says:

WHOOOOOP!! Go Muzza


Ike Says:

contador Says:

hahaha fed is afraid.

that is exactly why Fed is not the GOAT tennis player!


jane Says:

Wow margot; Murray looking VERY strong a.t.m.


super man Says:

uncle toni must be firing up a “knee report” right about now.


Ike Says:

I agree with you Kimmi re. that call / no-challenge.


madmax Says:

Well done Andy! first set in the bag!

Ike and Fed is afraid, nice comments!


jane Says:

Hi Ike, I am on the beautiful west coast of Canada, where a lot of flakes live, but alas, what can you do? LOL.


margot Says:

jane: did Andy close that out quite how shall I say ..easily ????
Never count Rafa out though, as so many know to their cost.


Ike Says:

btw, I feel that Andy most likely will win in 2 sets!


contador Says:

no not the goat debate….puleeze i laugh cos the thought of fed afraid is totally absurd, you know that : )

this is going to be a 3 setter


Fot Says:

Murray played a great aggressive first set, but we all know that usually when Rafa loses the firsst set, he comes back strong in the 2nd and we also know that Murray can go on a ‘walk-a-bout’ Let’s see how set 2 pans out.


Kimmi Says:

rafa, pumping himself up.

Muzza, please don’t go on a walk about. pls. Keep going. concentrate


margot Says:

Yes, and Rafa immediately picks up his first serve..


Ike Says:

Great Jane!
May be I will attend next year’s Rogers cup, when it will be in Montreal.


contador Says:

muzz is not napping today.

great touch! brilliant point muzz


Duro Says:

Kimmi, you’ll fulfill your part of the deal, apparently. What I’m gonna do?

If Murray wins, he’s gonna take it all. If Rafa wins, only Nole can take him. The problem is, is Nole gonna take Fed? Murray-Nole – Murray. Rafa-Nole – Nole. Murray-Fed – Murray, Rafa-Fed – Rafa. Pick your choice. Others are allowed too, but only ones that support top ten players. One exception (Countess).


Ike Says:

Contador / madmax,
yeah sorry about mentioning GOAT / Fed being afraid.


Kimmi Says:

Durossssimmmmo! GO Muzza!! one match at a time


Ike Says:

Btw, I had chance to interview Bud Collins at Newport, RI. I asked him about Rafa vs. Fed, first he was diplomatic then he said “how can I say Roger is better than Rafa, Roger rarely wins against Rafa, Roger seems nervous / afraid of playing Rafa”


Kimmi Says:

Muzza defence. GO GO GO!


i am it Says:

This is Murray at his best, utter domination over the Spaniard. I thought Rafa would put up some fight. What’s happening to Rafa he looks flat?


Ike Says:

no worries Kimmi, Andy will win this one and US Open! (and couple million dollars)


contador Says:

lol, thanks Duro.

just widen the net to top 60 and i am happy.

now i am inclined to cheer for rafa, what is up with me?

vamos rafa!


fed is afraid Says:

yes i think roger always has trepidation when having to face rafa, cause rafa owns him.
how can he be GOAT when he is not the best
of his era??


jane Says:

OMG – Murray is simply at his best today. Just lovely defense AND offense. With this game, the championship is his. I agree with Duro.

He must stay coachless.

He needs to play like this in a slam, all the way to the final.


Kimmi Says:

what a rally..murray decides to change direction and there goes the error


Ike Says:

hey Margot, the Andy the Scot will make you Britons proud this US Open!


dari Says:

Murray is a far-ass today. Answering what rafa has got Making rafa scramble. That was a hard hitting point there, they both kept it quite deep there!
Now muzza another bp…


contador Says:

bud collins. soooo jealous of roger ; )

c’mon rafa fight. i know you may be caving in and it’s a good plan but give us starving fans a 3rd set


super man Says:

the day murray can get his 1st serve % to 60, he is going to absolutely thrash nadal.

just so much talent murray has. that training in spain has ruined him by making him defensive minded. he should have trained in germany.

go murray!


Kimmi Says:

BREEEEEAK! Muzza. all the way baby. Concentrate PLEASE!


jane Says:

Murray breaks = Murray in two. He is TOO good today! margot I can see you beaming from here, across the pond. : D


Ike Says:

hey “fed is afraid”
agree with you man / mam re. GOAT and being best of your era, that’s one of the three condition to be GOAT!


dari Says:

geeze Louise that’s supposed to say Murray RAD-ass!


Kimmi Says:

Contador – NO WAY. NO third set please. and no tanking talk please. GO MUZZA


margot Says:

OMG jane, kimmi, ike: don’t think I can stand too much of this!


jane Says:

dari, lol, was wondering what far-ass meant.


madmax Says:

Fed is the best, always will be – but gentlemen, IKE and FIF, this is about murray and rafa’s game, so try to keep it that way, otherwise you spoil it for guys here –

Murray is playing really well margot/jane! Much more aggressive and more confident, keeping it cool, keeping it real.

Go murray!


steve Says:

Clean backhand down the line from Murray, a sign of confidence.


Kimmi Says:

margot- WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!


dari Says:

I’m not even being mean, but does rafa miss tio toni?


i am it Says:

It looks over for Rafa. Can he still right his ship? I have doubts. Man, Murray is playing brilliantly. His absolute (though still rare) aggression is paying off. Way to go !!!


contador Says:

rad-arse v famous-arse

hahahaa dari

rafa’s is so big or is it my flatscreen

must be a optical illusion


Duro Says:

But you must notice, people, that Rafa didn’t play well in any of those matches in Toronto. Very average performance for his standards, even against Kohlsriber and today. This is not his surface. He’s not gonna win USO ever. I said that before and I stick to that now.


madmax Says:

hahaha contador!

Murray is on a mission. Don’t jinx him conty!


madmax Says:

murray is smooooooohhhhhhhhhh…kingggg hot!


Ike Says:

take it easy madmax :)
don’t get so upset over GOAT thing


jane Says:

I like Rafa very very much; think he is a wonderful champion and a great number 1. That said, I think he has nothing to lose here today as he has already, I believe, bettered his points from last year. By contrast, it is crucial for Murray, mentally and points-wise, to win here. And I think he will. He is just much sharper today.


Kimmi Says:

just wide..oh no! C’mon murray


madmax Says:

Ike I dont get upset over the GOAT thing, it’s just such an endless debate for you guys with no answer. why do you want to fight about it? This is about murray and rafa. Not fed.

If you are asking me personally about Fed and GOAT. Then yes, the two go together like jim-jams,ying-yang. Save it for another day, eh?

Murray should be pleased with his performance so far, could have broken rafa again just now, but not to be.

Can Murray hold?

Margot you still there? How are the fingernails?


blank Says:

USO is a faster court than TO I think. That can only help Murray, Djoko and Federer.


Kimmi Says:

Rafa is a fighter. Its not over till the FAT lady sings. one bad game from murray, rafa is right back

Go muzza. concentrate and hold please


Duro Says:

Hi, Maxi. You’re frightening me tonight. Moratorium!


Kimmi Says:

rafa coming back here..muzza go go please. fight for it


contador Says:

madmax i rarely get to watch tennis on my TV at home….

usually lousy live streaming from my laptop is it.

and this match is great! i want 5 sets!

vamos rafa

c’mon muzzzz


Duro Says:

Kimmi, relax. Obvious things are obvious. rafa wasn’t good at doubles, wasn’t good at any match here, so he’s not gonna win it because he simply doesn’t play well and there are guys better than him on this surface. At lest four of them, if not five.


Kimmi Says:

RAfa is back..we jinx murray to think he has this one.

All please quiet. GO MUZZA


jane Says:

You can never, ever, ever, count Rafa out until the last ball is struck. Such heart this man. But a bit of a sloppy game from Andy to help. : /


i am it Says:

Good break back. I am still hoping Rafa comes back, wins the 2nd set, and forces the match into a 3rd setter.


contador Says:

okay

i really am cheering for muzza. he needs this win and rafa go rest


margot Says:

And Rafa bites back, why am I so not surprised??


dari Says:

Even though I’m rooting for Andy, rafa does the best point celebration moves!


Ike Says:

hey madmax,
who is “fighting” over GOAT – Roger? look at tone of my comments and your comments :)
don’t take it personal. I do respect Roger as tennis player, he has helped the sport to grow bigger (except in my country…USA, where tennis is pretty much dead for a while now)


super man Says:

i would not say never regarding nadal winning usopen – even a moron like safin won it and nadal works harder, so he will have his chances, but if murray djokovic and delpotro play to potential, we might soon have morons posting with names like “nadal is afraid of new york ” or other such stupid names!


jane Says:

Oh crazy angles from Murray there!


madmax Says:

ah contador, you know you are always welcome to come watch the game here with me, when you are ready.

Duro, you and I lifelong friends. Forever together. next year we meet with sar and ollyk, regardless of outcome. Remember I saw nole for the first time at wimbledon this year, playing against Llodra. I like the guy. But Federer, always for me. Forever. Go Fed! The best !

Duro moratorium sounds like an insurance policy to me – don’t like!

This is a match up, really looking forward to it and wish we could watch it together :(

Rafa has it up a notch. Andy gotta keep his mojo intact! That was, for sure, a great shot for Murray. Excellent.


Ike Says:

margot
don’t jinx Andy


Kimmi Says:

GO Muzza. he is leaking errors now.


madmax Says:

stay aggressive murray. don’t give up. believe in yourselv and your shots.


Ike Says:

hey Super Man
Nadal WILL win US Open, there is no doubt about it! It’s not if its when. I guarantee that! (I have $100 bet with my colleague)


jane Says:

Okay you tennis experts out there, has Nadal changed his serve again? He has normally one of the highest first serve percentages on the tour, and it seems like this tournament it’s not been as consistent. Is it a serve-in-transition type of thing? I guess we need Voicemale1 or NELTA or MMT or someone who knows the technical aspects to answer? Just curious.


Kimmi Says:

morgot – getting nervous for muzza. can’t watch now. go muzza


margot Says:

Not me Ike! A tiny bit of loss of concentration and Rafa pounces! Andy must up his game now.


madmax Says:

Okay, now this is crucial for murray. Hold it. steady. It’s those first serves that have deserted him for now. He needs to start believing again.


madmax Says:

It’s the first serves. Gone down way too much. Time to up it Andy. Get out the Irn Bru!


Kimmi Says:

muzza is going walk about now!


jane Says:

Kimmi, lol, have started my cleaning routine. I’m sorting the laundry and am going to mop soon, but have to save some mess for Fed vs. Nole tonight. ; ) Arrrgh Murray in a lapse here. Hmmm. Changing sweat bands. For luck?


madmax Says:

possibly to give him a bit of time before the first serve Jane?

Come on Murray! Irn Bru intact!


madmax Says:

andy is taking it to rafa again.


super man Says:

winning 1 us open is for great players. for goat candidacy, you need multiple slams/slam finals like borg or federer. they have 4slam finals atleast at each slam they played and fed has 4 masters cups too.


madmax Says:

stay calm murray. stay calm.


madmax Says:

heart beat. heart beat. heart beat.


jane Says:

This the match …?


dari Says:

Murray’s points looking like rafa’s usual! What, rain?!


steve Says:

What did I say? Murray backhand to Nadal forehand = bad news for Nadal. Murray forehand to Nadal backhand has also been bad news for Nadal.


madmax Says:

jane. you stopped cleaning, mopping? I’ve actually started to sketch! hahaha! Tennis. what it does to ‘normal’ people!

Margot? You gone undercover?


margot Says:

Just serve well Andy, just serve well. You deserve a victory!


super man Says:

ladies, easy! it is just a tennis match. you are driving me up the wall.

great match this!


madmax Says:

don’t blow it murray. hold tight and irn brn!


contador Says:

great tennis from andy and i must say, i am happy to see it!

oh rafa, the errors


madmax Says:

MATCHPOINT X 3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


jane Says:

margot, today, Murray does indeed deserve his win. Well earned! Congrats to Murray!! And rest up Rafa!! No shame in your loss today.


Ike Says:

hey “super man”
I think GOAT shouldn’t lose 3 out 4 or 4 out of four grand slam finals!


madmax Says:

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!


Ike Says:

way to US Open Andy! Well done!


stu Says:

Awrite blandy!!


contador Says:

rule brittania!


Ike Says:

I think Andy WILL beat either Novak or Fed in tomorrow’s final


Skeezerweezer Says:

Murray! :) Great win, tall 2 handers with a serve strikes again…..


contador Says:

but but, i was picking muzz to win cincinnati.

can he take all? us open too?

looks like it to me.


madmax Says:

A great match – well done to both players – really enjoyable – and now murray has a nice rest before the final tomorrow.


margot Says:

jane, kimmi, ike with your crystal ball and all supporting Andy: YEEHAA!!


steve Says:

Congrats to Murray. He retains the #4 ranking, which he’d have lost to Soderling if he had lost today.


jane Says:

contador, he could, but he could tire or sustain an injury too. Not many (any??) have ever won TO, Cincy and USO. I’d rather Andy M. just equal his points at Cincy and save his best / energy for USO.


i am it Says:

That was brutal and humiliating defeat Rafa suffered.
Congrats to Murray and all those who cheered for his win !!!


margot Says:

PS :) :) :) :) : 0- me shouting HOORAYY!!


super man Says:

i will take a guess, you ladies are

a) menopausal

b) divorced

c) abandoned by partners unable to watch tennis with you

d) all of the above.

just joking ladies. you girls are a riot! great fun following the match sweethearts!

go murray! murray for usopen!


jane Says:

margot – Woot!! : )


puckbandit Says:

YEs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Was too nervous to post during match. Like Jane I find myself wandering about the place finding chores to distract.

Haven’t read all the posts but did notice a usual scrap or two breaking out, nice to see everything status quo here. LOL

This is the way Murray MUST play if he is to beat the top players in big matches. Must take the game to his opponents. Hope he keeps this up. Coach? who needs a coach. ha ha


puckbandit Says:

YEs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Was too nervous to post during match. Like Jane I find myself wandering about the place finding chores to distract.

Haven’t read all the posts but did notice a usual scrap or two breaking out, nice to see everything status quo here. LOL

This is the way Murray MUST play if he is to beat the top players in big matches. Must take the game to his opponents. Hope he keeps this up. Coach? who needs a coach. ha ha


jane Says:

super man – hubby and son are BMX-ing. Not my cup o tea. Not divorced or menopausal. LOL.


Von Says:

Congrats to Murray’s fans. he’s now in the finals.

________________
Blank, shame on you, so you were part of that dirty act that was pulled on berdych? LOL. I saw the match and berdy had to stop his service prep at least twice. I think it absolutely unnerved him.

They say the American at the USO are terrible, but you guys weren’t that much different last evening.

________________
grendel: Don’t shoot the messenger. I didn’t write that article. I only subscribe to the news letters, but I can add a mea culpa for posting it, if it’s too much to handle, which I doubt. ha ha
_________________


dari Says:

Buen trabajo McMurray! Happy for him in the win!


puckbandit Says:

Very important win for Murray – he keeps his 4 ranking. Would’ve dropped to 5 for USO seedings.

Go Muzza!!!!!!!

Love you too Rafa, just not when you’re playing Andy.

Can Nole pull off the upset tonight and truly make my day?
Let’s hope.


super man Says:

jane:

the last one to do the toronto – cincinnati -uso triple, was an andy too. :)


Von Says:

contador: I don’t know if this will help your bracket, but in response to your question of earlier today, I heard on the Tennis Channel that Roddick has arrived in Cincy. If he’s in Cincy that means he’s feeling better. This week he remained at home and was getting his tests done, hence the withdrawal.


super man Says:

andy roddick won montreal but you get the idea :)

i have to check if agassi/ rafter won toronto or montreal.


Leo Says:

I think that we could see this coming since yesterday. Murray won formidably against a great opponent and Nadal won with just what was necessary against someone which he should have defeated easily.

If Djokovic wins now, most surely this pumped up Murray will get the title. With Federer you never know, he is not in his best moment, but he is still the best tennis player ever and he wouldn’t doubt to show that.


Von Says:

Add in Legg Mason also to the Canada, Cincy USO triple. Super, terrific, Roddick!


Skeezerweezer Says:

Nice to see one of the Murrays , Noles, JDPs types etc breakthrough and challenge for the top again. No disrespect to Rafa or Fed. They set the bar and it is high.

These guys have had a tough year and have had big expectations on the past. Nice to see these tier guys prove they still belong and can contend for a top ranking :)


super man Says:

ike,

you are telling me winning 1/1 slam finals is better than winning 1/4?

are you an idiot or just pretending to be one?


Sean Randall Says:

Very impressive performance from Murray today. He completely went on the offensive and it paid off nicely. Why he doesn’t stay with that tactic day in, day out is a mystery.


madmax Says:

WOW and PHEW! Well, british press will of course be a little kinder to murray now.

As for Federer -v- Novak,

C’moon Fed!

Really great to have Peter Fleming in the house tonight. He always makes me laugh. And also interesting to say that it doesn’t matter about the rankings – whoever plays who – who cares? Andy proved tonight that ranked 4), he could beat the world number 1). It’s all a matter of belief and heart.

This is what Federer had earlier on this morning, and what he must continue to have if he is to beat Novak.

Heart attack tennis these last two days.

Superman

Too young to be menopausal, and too single to be divorced! :)Plus, this is the best tennis forum to meet like minded lost tennis souls.


jane Says:

super man, ah, but Roddick was just a young buck then at 21, with nothing to lose. ; ) Murray is the ripe old age of 23 and desperately needs his first slam! Okay, if you say it’s possible, then let him go for it. I just want to see a fun USO, last slam of year and all.


madmax Says:

Margot,

you should be singing on the podium now a la proxy for murray – God Save the Queen (forget that Scotland is a different country now – we talking UK)!


Skeezerweezer Says:

@ super man post @ 5:05

Lol. But aren’t u divorced, mid life crisis and same as “C” and “D” ?

And yes thanks ladies for all the posts it helped a traveling man this week who had a hard time watching the matches.


contador Says:

von thanks. i dunno what roddick being in cincy means either.

whatever he has i hope it’s not serious. as you say, we’ll never know.

meanwhile, i hesitate to have him going deep. no choice, i got stuck with mathieu!

the brackets challenge is all in fun. but…now that i’m in, i can’t stop. i s*** at it as it is and wow, how much easier if i could actually take in all the matches, lounge around all day and watch tennis channel (it’s a very good thing i can’t get tennis channel!!)


Colin Says:

I’d almost given up on Murray during the last few months, and I was beginning to think maybe those anti-Murray people (most of them British!)were right, and that he’ll never win a major. But watching this tournament has cheered me up considerably. His serve has been good most of the week, and though I hadn’t noticed it was windy today (I plead senility), that may have been the reason both men had serving problems.
Now lets hope Andy can keep his focus tomorrow. What time will the final be? If it’s early afternoon, Nole will hope it’s cloudy. It’s always surprised me that Murray seems to have no problems with hot weather, and even gave up wearing a cap some time ago. After all, Scotland isn’t exactly noted for blazing sunshine!
By the way, did anyone notice that fat line judge who looks like a wrestler? He reminded me of Milton Reed, who was in many British horror movies, and one of the Bond films.


blank Says:

Von,

I was part of the act :-) but I didn’t scream when he was about to serve. That was someone else ;-)

On being a rowdy crowd…hey, we were just preparing the players for what to expect at the US open!

I am a bit bummed out that I didn’t get to see Roddick. And, because of that neither the double decks.


margot Says:

super man: loved your cheeky post! But pleeese, Andy fans have been in the wilderness a long, long time.
jane: All the very best for Novak tonight. Yes, yes I know all you lovely Fed fans but as Ben says it’s time for him and Andy to start believing.
Night all, sweet dreams xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


jane Says:

I checked Roddick’s website and there is no news on what his illness is or was, but if he is sticking in the draw for Cincy, presumably he is feeling better and probably wanting to shake off rust prior to the USO. I think he could do well in Cincy. He’s won it before (twice? 03 and 06 I believe) and he’ll be a little more rested having not played Canada. Though I am never sure which is worse: rest or rust?


jane Says:

margot, cheers, and sweet tennis dreams.


Duro Says:

Maxi, thank you for your most kind words. A real friendship proves it to be above personal affinities. Let the better man wins.

Congrats to Murray supporters, especially Margot, Kimmi and Jane.

Jane, leave some place for Nole! Murray took all your heart!


Von Says:

blank: Glad to hear that you weren’t part of the dirty deed, and it was someone else. blame it on Mikey. Do you remember that commercial? LOL.

I heard on the Tennis Channel that Andy’s arrived in Cincy and is practising, which means he’s feeling better. Last week he was having some testing done, and it’s why he withdrew from Toronto.

Hey, with some luck we’ll all see the double-deckers. She’s retiring from modeling, so no more viiewing of the doubles. Too bad …..


jane Says:

Colin, that’s the line judge whose shots were billowing; but that was the only lightness about him. He looked like a tough guy. Regarding the heat, Murray is smart to have moved to Florida where he trains in the sun and perhaps more humid conditions. It must help him somewhat. Though again, as a young boy he moved to Spain, not exactly cool.


jane Says:

Shorts billowing, not shots.


Duro Says:

If Ben Pronin is here, I want to tell him that someone offended his all time favorite really bad!

Ben, defend your retired champ! He doesn’t deserve to be called names!


jane Says:

Duro, I would love to see a Murray vs. Nole final, you know that. A mighty heart.


steve Says:

@jane: Roddick is suffering from mono. It seems to be afflicting everyone, Federer, Ancic, Isner, now Roddick.

ESPN:

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/tennis/news/story?id=5464023

Sad news, I hope he can come back soon.


steve Says:

But is it true: does the rain in Spain fall mainly on the plain? I wonder if anyone has ever asked Nadal that question in a press conference.


jane Says:

steve, interesting as I had just checked his site this morning. Well that’s not good. But if it was a mild case, then maybe he’ll bounce back for this last part of the season.


mem Says:

congratulations to murray! excellent play and great win for him. nadal didn’t play too badly either, considering too many errors, too many short balls, shaky first serve, you name it, nonetheless a great test for him. he needs some tough matches to prepare for the coming weeks.

all murray has to do now is play that way for seven matches on the grandest stage of all: SLAM, BABY, SLAM!

again, great job andy and good luck in the final.

good luck in cincy rafa! a semifinal, not bad to start this part of the hardcourt season; you didn’t play your best this tournament, but every round takes you higher and higher and provides the preparation you need for the tough weeks ahead ! vamos beautiful rafa!


super man Says:

skeezer :

too wise to fall into the marriage trap,
too young for midlife crisis
too evil to let my partners escape. they are all tied up in my basement watching the mahut-isner match for the 71st time.

margot and jane, you guys are sweet.

madmax : i love you. keep up the support for the king of tennis. xxxx


madmax Says:

jane,

i know you want novak to come through tonight/this morning – of course and good luck to him, to you and duro, sar, ollyk (where are you?).

BUT,

of course, we are on opposite sides of the net tonight – so may the best man win on the night – and hoping that is to be The maestro, carrying on the swissbliss.

C’moon the Fed! Play some pe-rf-ect tennis.


jane Says:

madmax, cheers, and of course there will be no hard feelings. : ) Let the best man win tonight, and while I would love for Nole to get a big win over the Fed, whatever happens, I hope it is a good match we can enjoy.


jane Says:

madmax, cheers, and of course there will be no hard feelings. : ) Let the best man win tonight, and while I would love for Nole to get a big win over the Fed, whatever happens, I hope it is a good match we can enjoy.


steve Says:

Well, Mr. Randall, given your pre-match remarks, I must ask you: do you think Nadal was tired even after taking a month off after Wimbledon? Were his knees acting up? Or was it some other injury?

Or was he simply outplayed and outfoxed by an opponent who played a superior match?


grendel Says:

Did anyone notice that when serving out, at 40-love Murray hit an easy ball way out? Nadal seemed to be having a laugh about it with the ball boy, extending his arms wide to indicate just how far out it was. He took his defeat in good spirit. I’m not convinced by Duro’s opinion that Nadal can’t win the US. After all, for most of the first set, he was on even terms with Murray – easily the biggest contender for the Open after Nadal himself. And for two or three games in the second set, he was on top and threatened to run away with it; it was a brilliant rearguard action by Murray to wrest back the iniative. Can Murray play better? Maybe in time, but hardly over the next three weeks – meanwhile, expect Nadal to up his game considerably over these same weeks. At best, I think we could say Nadal and Murray are (as of now) joint favourites.

I’ve never been a huge Murray supporter, though a lingering tribal sense pushes me a little bit into his corner. But there is no doubt that he deserves a grand slam in a way that I don’t think Henman ever quite did. So if he wins over Federer, say, in the final, I shan’t complain. However, I highly doubt it will come to that. If Murray and Nadal are in different halves, I’ll be surprised if they are not contesting the final.


Kimberly Says:

Ahhhh Rafa!!! Broke my bracket and heart!!!!

Lets hope for a better performance in Cincy!!! I know you will play into your best!!!!!


blank Says:

WOW!! I am on the draw challenge leaderboard @ No. 57!

I picked Murray Vs Fed finals. Let’s see what happens now!


jane Says:

Kimberly, take heart. Few come back like Rafa does. I guess your little ones will be bummed too. : /

grendel, “Nadal and Murray are (as of now) joint favourites.” Do you discount Fed as a co-fave? He’s in the semis here, has a new coach, has looked sharp if a little rusty at this event, bettered his results here from last year, when he was in the USO final, has won the USO how many times? I should think he’s got to be a favourite too?


Sean Randall Says:

Steve, as I said it was a very impressive performance from Murray. By playing a very aggressive, offensive game he can beat Rafa as we saw today. And he thoroughly whipped him.

Going in, I just didn’t think that w/o a coach reminding him of that tactic plus his stubbornness to change that he would exclusively go on the attack against Rafa.

Credit to him, he did. And for his sake he needs to play that way to win a Slam.

I guess he is his best coach!


Kimmi Says:

just came back. i had to go away at 4-4 second set. MUZZA WON.

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP!

so happy. i am doing a happy dance right now.

Congarts muzza and all muzza fan. Margot, the biggest one here.

Please..no excuses. Muzza won fair and square.

have to watch the recorded.

YAAAAY!!!


Sean Randall Says:

grendel, for me, the biggest case against Rafa winning the US Open is the schedule. Playing best-of-5 hardcourt SFs and Finals on consecutive days is a killer.

And to do it he’ll likely have to beat at least one, maybe two, of the guys playing today in Toronto.


steve Says:

@Sean Randall: thanks for the reply.

As to the question of coachlessness, I don’t think that makes so much difference. Playing Nadal on a hardcourt instinctively seems to bring the best out of Murray.

Not only that, but Nadal’s slow, consistent pace allows Murray to set up his shots and play aggressively. He can use all his variety and tactical acumen to their full.

Other players, like Federer most notably, play much faster and don’t give him time to do that.

So I don’t know how much he can do to step it up and play more aggressively in general. It depends on his opponent.


mem Says:

steve,

nadal was not injured, tired, and to my knowledge nor did he claim to be, he was “simply outplayed and outfoxed by an opponent who played a superior match”. andy won fair and square, it’s done!

sean made predictions like he always do. we don’t have to like them. after all, predictions don’t determine whether a player win or lose. some of you guys get so angry over predictions as if they are actually facts. a baby can make a prediction! they are just educated guesses!

i’ve never known any player to win them all! once you understand that you can accept when your favorite loses! i’m a nadal fan, but he lost to the better player today. for me, it’s not a problem; not something to be upset over. quite frankly, i don’t know what the big deal is, i certainly don’t expect him to win every match as tough as the competition is nowadays. as far as i’m concerned, it’s all good!


blank Says:

Sean,

I think today we can truly retire the argument that Murray has never won against a fully fit Nadal.


grendel Says:

Portrait of a Pessimist (assume Tennisfan wants Murray to win US Open)

Onlooker (brightly): Well, TF, you must be over the moon with this victory of Murray’s over the mighty Nadal!

Tennisfan (gloomily): Not at all.

Onlooker (brightly): Why not, TF?

Tennisfan (gloomily): It’s like this. Murray’s won, so he feels pretty good, eh?

Onlooker (still brightly but a little puzzled): That’s right, TF! He’s feeling like a million dollars, you bet!

Tennisfan (his tone even more lugubrious): He’s wrong to feel that.

Onlooker (with a touch of impatience now): What are you talking about, TF? Spit it out!

Tennisfan (in low, doleful voice): First of all, Murray winning is a cunning Nadal ploy. He’s lured Murray into overconfidence. And he’s gained valuable information. He now knows exactly what Murray has to offer, whilst Murray has no idea what he’s deliberately kept hidden.

Onlooker (looking startled) What are you saying? That it would have been better for Murray to have lost?

Tennisfan (voice more spepulchral than ever): That wouldn’t have been any good either.

Onlooker(now sounding very irritated): You’re not making any sense, TF! Surely it must be one or the other!

Tennisfan (a hint of satisfaction penetrating the gloom):No, each possibility is equally bad. If Murray had lost, then his confidence would be in tatters, and he’d start to have Nadal in his head like that Swiss fellow.

Onlooker (mystified): Then what’s the best thing for Murray, TF?

Tennisfan (a slow smile spreading across his face): There is no best thing. Whichever way you look, misery.


Kimberly Says:

i was number 30 on the leaderboard last night, now number 999 and going down down down….

Oh well.

No, but I believe Rafa is a better player than Murray. He did not “bring it” today.


jane Says:

mem, yes, they all have to lose sometime, and no shame in losing to a top-form Andy M. What did they say? Rafa was 31-1 since April? Not too shabby!!!


steve Says:

Fair enough, mem.

To clarify: I was not claiming Nadal said he was injured or tired, just responding to what Sean Randall said about his previous losses to Murray.

Nor did I object to his predictions–I was addressing his suggestion that those losses were due to injury.

I just feel that there is a lot of excuse-making, among fans and media, when Nadal loses, about injury and exhaustion, even when the guy is running like a rabbit and whipping forehands left and right, and not enough credit given to the opponent for superior play.

So I wanted to set the issue straight.

Surely Nadal is not the only player who gets injured or tired during a long season. But I rarely see the media or fans explain away their losses to the extent that they do with Nadal.


Sean Randall Says:

blank, completely agreed (although in a few weeks maybe Rafa reveals he has..ah nevermind).

Steve, my sense is in his blood that Murray is a counterpuncher. That’s the style he WANTS to play. He wants to toy with plays, show his talents and his smarts. And because he’s so good at it that tactic does work against many players.

It doesn’t against Rafa, hence the decided 8-4 edge Rafa has over Murray.

But if Murray can resist the urge and player every match the way he played today I think he’d be a better player for it.

I’ll be interested to see what style he chooses tomorrow, to return to defensive or remain offensive. Against either Novak or Roger he can and has won playing defensively and perhaps that style could work again.

But when it comes to Grand Slam finals – and here’s the problem – I just don’t think he can win playing defensively. By problem I’m saying that in his mind he’s thinking “I just beat Roger in the Toronto final playing defensive, smart tennis. I can just do that again here in the US Open final and that strategy should work again, woot!”


blank Says:

Kimmi, so you didn’t pick your faves to win then? Is that why your rank dropped?


tennisfansince76 Says:

a big factor at the USO will be the draw. i dont think choke-a-bit will be a factor. wherever murray is will be the tough part of the draw.


steve Says:

@grendel, it is a dark portrait you paint. The question is: does Murray himself see it that way?


tennisfansince76 Says:

just an observation. murray is physically the hardest opponent for Nadal to play. Muzza’s crosscourt backhand puts murderous stress on Nadal’s
legs. if Nadal and Muzza played 100 match barnstorm tour like they used in the early days of tennis his career would be over before they got to the 100th match. maybe Delpo would be equivalent.


Sean Randall Says:

grendel, bang on!

In some ways if Murray wins tomorrow it could be the worst thing that happened to him. By beating Rafa then say Roger he’ll immediately be expected to win the US Open by the Brit press.

Up until yesterday morning I don’t think there was a strong drumbeat along Fleet Street forecasting greatness for Murray in Flushing, especially since he’s titleless on the year. But now…???


steve Says:

Djokovic has made at least the semis at USO three years running. Only Federer has defeated him there.

I think the USO is actually his best Grand Slam tournament, and his best chance for a second major lies there. The fall hard-court season is where he picks up his play–he won something like four titles, including a Masters.

His AO win was unrepresentative, I think–he was playing at the peak of his youthful level there and has now dropped down to a more normal level. He hasn’t made it past the quarters since.


jane Says:

tennisfansince76, perhaps Nole will not be a factor, but he has gotten to the finals, semis and semis. So I guess he’s sort of been a factor there, i.e., eliminated his portion of the competition until late into the second week for three years running. That’s not nothing.

grendel, you should write scripts for Woody Allen.


steve Says:

I should say: “last year he won something like four titles”.


Kimmi Says:

blank – unfortunately i picked rafa. while i was picking rafa i was hoping for a muzza win.

its never easy this bracket challenge. i was thinking rafa is in a high now, he is been beating everyone but not today..so happy for muzza.


grendel Says:

I doubt it, Steve! Murray’s got that quiet but confident look, as if he knows his time has come.

jane: to view Fed as joint favourite is simply the heart talking, not the head. His results since AO do not warrant such confidence. On the other hand, it isn’t always the favourite who wins, so it’s quite rational for a Fed supporter to back Fed, Djokovic supporter, Berdych supporter, likewise and so on.


steve Says:

I have no idea who is a favorite and who not. I just want Roger to win.


blank Says:

Kimmi,

I hear you. Every time I pick Federer, he loses early. But what the heck, I continue to pick Federer…even a broken clock is right twice a day. I am happy if he wins at least one MS each year. well…maybe more than one :-)


Kimmi Says:

blank..I hope federer wins tonight. i need some points in my bracket.

Go federer


blank Says:

I hope Federer wins the whole thing. That will do a world of good to my bracket :-)


jane Says:

Here we go: Fed and Nole. Have fun all, think I will hunker down for this one. : )


blank Says:

It’s forecast to rain later this evening and almost all day tomorrow.


blank Says:

jane,

Enjoy the match! Hope we get a tight 3 setter like last night!


contador Says:

kimmi

we are now somehow tied again in toronto. not for long though.

one of us has one more chance for points.

Kimberly- you were on the leaderboard! that’s incredible. your score as it is is great!

blank- doing the draw challenge too?


Kimmi Says:

how did we get tied conty..did u pick muzza to beat nadal


blank Says:

Yes Contador. Other than this one, I have fared rather poorly of late. I blame it on Fed :-)


Kimmi Says:

Djoko not with a good start. federer 3-0.

Go go FEDERER. Keep the concentration


contador Says:

did you start in the beginning, blank? i started in rome


jane Says:

No, not so good from Nole but great start from Fed. At this point, it’s looking like a Fed vs. Murray final. I wonder who’d win that? Fed’s looking so sharp but so is Murray…


contador Says:

there is still a whole lotta time jane for a momentum change


contador Says:

i never underestimate the ability for fed to go walkabout


jane Says:

Fed is playing very well though, contador, whereas Nole is hitting at lot of errors, be they forced or un. I am happy to see him serving better, as Blank pointed out. But this set is gone.


stu Says:

this is djokovic we’re talking about. no momentum change, except when its for the worse.


blank Says:

Contador, I just missed Monte-Carlo, I blame that on Fed too since he didn’t play that one. Overall rank is in the 6000′s now.


contador Says:

aw stu.


Kimmi Says:

federer concentartes, 3 break points went down the drain


contador Says:

advantage nole


contador Says:

deuce battle


jane Says:

stu, he’s trying but this is Fed. We must be nice to Nole. And he is serving better, but just some mis-timing from the baseline, and a certain pink-shirted man. ; )


Kimmi Says:

not yet for federer jane, do you remember the berdych match yesterday? momentum switch is very sudden in tennis.

C’mon fed.


contador Says:

that’s respectable blank

did you start the cincy bracket?

i have no idea what to think yet though i did a rough draft


Kimmi Says:

4th break point in this game..and the 4th one is a charm.


jane Says:

True Kimmi. But so far zip for momentum for Nole, just can’t stop bleeding the errors. : /


blank Says:

Contador, I have done the draft as well. All I know is I am not going to pick the finalists here to go very far there.


puckbandit Says:

ESPN’s Cahil just said: “This is not tennis, this is just ball bashing by Djokovic at the moment”

so truy


stu Says:

too many UEs, Jane, random mishits that he should and would normally make. on both wings. im comparing this to the way murray came out today, and i wonder how he plans to fix his head…


Ben Pronin Says:

Worst I’ve ever seen Djokovic play. He’s not just playing dumb, he’s playing like an idiot. Wow.


Ben Pronin Says:

*Should say “not just playing bad”


Kimmi Says:

what a return by nole


Kimmi Says:

federer needs an ace here


contador Says:

roddick messed me up and others this time. always somebody.
in madrid it was verdasco.


puckbandit Says:

Also, commentators mention new trend in tennis is lose weight, go skinny and that Nole has lost some weight too.

Once said, I have to admit, his legs look like twigs. Maybe he’s down too much muscle mass in legs and that is why his serve has lost it’s punch?

What say you guys?


jane Says:

Poor Nole. Fed’s making him look bad. Set one over in 25 minutes.


contador Says:

hm. thinking a dark horse?


Kimmi Says:

djoko woke up on the bad side or what. I did not expect this easy set for fed.

OK..second set is where Djoko wakes up and federer stays the same. I hope.


Ben Pronin Says:

Djokovic looks particularly thin everywhere, not just the legs. Wtf is his team doing? Wtf is he doing? How can the soon-to-not-be-number-2-anymore be so out of shape? We have Fat Dave and now Skinny Nole.


jane Says:

I don’t see how he is playing dumb. He’s just missing. That’s all. Like stu said, too many errors.


Ben Pronin Says:

Nole the Pole, hahaha.


stu Says:

“one of the worst sets you could ever see anybody play”

WOW.


i am it Says:

This is another below the par semi, worse than the last? Djokovic cannot be sorrier than this, can he? but he is egoless joker so it would probably not matter much. He seems to be content with being qarterfinalist or occasionally (at best) semifinalist for life.


Ben Pronin Says:

He needs to relax. He’s playing like Fernando Gonzalez, just trying to smack the ball as hard as possible. That’s not his game. He needs to start playing the points out. Make Federer hit winners, not hit a plethora of errors.


stu Says:

why does Federer always make the guy SO nervous? their H2H is not so bad….


stu Says:

i don’t think the Fed is enjoying this either!


jane Says:

Duro noticed the lost weight too, when he saw him in person; I honestly can’t tell. Why would he lose weight?

They just showed Rafa watching and texting. Probably making late dinner plans since this may be over soon.


blank Says:

What a difference a day makes. Nole was in awesome form yesterday.


contador Says:

nadal is scouting …. very serious sleuthing going on


Ben Pronin Says:

Stu, the commentators said that Djokovic hasn’t had a top 10 win all year and it’s primarily because he hasn’t gotten to enough big matches. It’s not just Federer, it’s the whole occasion. Everything is getting to him.


jane Says:

OMG OMG OMG. Can’t watch this. 2 winners to 16 UES!!!? Why? Usually these two play a good match.


Kimmi Says:

djoko looks rushed for some reason.

what is happening to djoko..he is always shot to shot with fed. hmmm!

OK, back to federer, don’t lose focus


blank Says:

If they are to win more big events, Nole and Muzza need to get the Fed and Nadal out of their minds. Right now, looks like just the sight of them makes these guys nervous. Muzza did a good job today though.


puckbandit Says:

Gilbert talking stupid now, saying players scared because Paul Annacone is now working with Fed. What is he Annacone’s agent?
Guy is good, but c’mon, Fed doesn’t need to add bodies in his box to put concern in his opponents.


blank Says:

Another problem is Federer is having no issues reading Djoko’s serve.


i am it Says:

I would not doubt Federer’s doable goal of 20 Slams (multiple a year) after watching him play and his possible spoilers’ games. At his worst, he reaches the final and may add another Masters tomorrow, so far good result as a prep for the Open.


jane Says:

I feel so sad for him. I can’t help it. Just sad. Don’t want to be mean, call him names, etc. But this is a poor match; that’s the truth. Fed deserves to win and be number #2. He can’t hit the ball in the court and he is just flat flat flat. He is truly Jekyll and Hyde.


puckbandit Says:

Cahill speechless, stunned, doesn’t even want to watch.


stu Says:

Ben, I’d say Murray hasn’t been in too many big matches this year either, if you exclude AO2010 which was a long time ago…And his H2H against Rafa is even worse considering Rafa claims to have been at <100% most of the times he lost…Yet he came out with fire in his belly and tremendous belief in his game!


puckbandit Says:

Will this be biggest beat down or biggest comeback?

I know where I’d put my money.


goat galz Says:

Poor Von. Roddick has mono? I suppose you would say that’s why he lost to Lu and Gabashvili. LOL

no more viiewing of the doubles. Too bad …..

Von- do you like looking at Broolyn’s doubles? Old tart.

Ta Ta


puckbandit Says:

One small battle won.


Kimmi Says:

djoko fist pumping after holding that game. maybe it will give him some spark.

federer should tighten the screw though.


Ben Pronin Says:

What are you going to do, Stu? Murray handled the occasion, credit to him. Djokovic is failing miserably.

This is just embarrassing. I’ve just never seen him play this bad. His first serve has no direction on it, that’s why Fed’s reading it so easily. Djokoivc has a lot of flaws that Federer is just completely dissecting tonight.


jane Says:

This reminds me a little of Murray’s loss to Rafa at IW last year, as it was all Rafa, very one-sided. However, it was exceedingly windy and Murray could not deal with the conditions, whereas Rafa did. There is not one condition issue tonight. That’s the difference. It’s just Nole off his game and Fed on his. Or, as stu implies, it’s also and utter lack of confidence in Nole.


blank Says:

When was the last time Fed didn’t drop a game and won a match?


Ben Pronin Says:

Finally the forehand we’ve been seeing in the last few matches. Jeez, where has he been hiding it? Add more loop, a little less flat, and the match will be more interesting, even if only a little.


contador Says:

the crowd wants 3 sets

nole will take the 2nd set and then we have a match


stu Says:

im not getting excited yet…


puckbandit Says:

Okay, gotta give NOLE credit, put in some fight and used his brain


Kimmi Says:

thats what I was worried about. federer getting nervous. game on.

C’mon fed. stay sharp!


jane Says:

Well, at least he has two games this set. Woot!


Ben Pronin Says:

If nothing else, Djokovic needs to fight to the death. Even if he loses, he’ll have earned himself a lot more respect if he can show fight and grit.


Ben Pronin Says:

First slice of the night from Djokovic. The commentators are spot on tonight. Fowler said Djokovic isn’t trying to hit everything mach 10 anymore and Gilbert added that he’s using his brain now.


puckbandit Says:

Wow, it’s like someone performed an exorcism on Nole after the second game of this set. Chased away the demon UE striker and replaced him with the Nole we saw yesterday.


contador Says:

people get so dire

as i said earlier. plenty of time for the momentum change

which just happened


Kimmi Says:

federer now with the errors..hmmm

The problem with tennis is. if you had it very easy in previous sets..when the other player comes back, you start to play bad.

federer needs to hold here. please


Kimmi Says:

federer shanking


contador Says:

now federer can’t get anything in the court


stu Says:

i just want to see a match. i don’t want Nole to win while Fed is in a walkabout, or vice versa.


Ben Pronin Says:

Is Djokovic hustling Federer? Inflated his confidence in the first set just to stick a needle in it in the second? Is this match for real?

Cahill said it all “I was speechless 4 games ago and now I’m speechless again”


zinaldo Says:

Federer seriously has a problem with his concentration now days,he is almost incapable of keeping his level up for whole matches now days,it is shameful really.


puckbandit Says:

Nole has really raised his game.


contador Says:

they switched roles.

murray rafa was a match…


Ben Pronin Says:

I like Federer’s giant wristband, I wore won like it today. It’s like having a towel on your wrist.


jane Says:

I know stu. I was primed for a competitive affair, like in Basel.

contador, but that first set from Nole was dire. He’s still not playing as well as he can. But I’ll say it a third time, happy to see his serve working a little better.


contador Says:

nole raised his game and federer lost his


Kimmi Says:

important hold for fed.


Kimmi Says:

what a point


Ben Pronin Says:

Jesus crackers. That was too funny.


jane Says:

Ben, it was the same in the Berdych match. All Fed set one, and then Berdych coming back set two. Quite the point there; Fed with great defense.


Ben Pronin Says:

Djokovic still isn’t playing all that well, though. Federer is just hanging in and that might be all he needs to do. It’s a tale of two head-cases, but one of them has a good lead.


jane Says:

Nole is still making too many errors. Fed will win.


Kimmi Says:

break point..c’mon fed


Kimmi Says:

bad error by fed.

jane, at the moment they are equal. both making errors and sometimes some good shots


jane Says:

The slice, when he’s used it, has worked well for Nole. But he’s not used it much. Those poor Serbian fans up in the nosebleeds. They must be wanting their money back. Ha ha.


Ben Pronin Says:

21 backhand errors from Djokovic… wow.


Ben Pronin Says:

Djokovic grunts a lot. Maybe he really is a diva.


jane Says:

Kimmi, perhaps, for a glimmering moment they are “equal”, but I feel like Fed is toying with Nole almost. Nole is mainly reacting but not creating.


stu Says:

wow fed is directing all his shots towards the backhand! nole’s backhand! and it’s working for the most part. 21 backhand UEs is unthinkable for normal Nole…


jane Says:

Fed gets the dropper no problem; Murray, take note!!


stu Says:

haha Ben…I’m glad you can see the humor in this


Kimmi Says:

do i here the crowd chanting “nole nole nole”


stu Says:

wow…if he had started to play like this JUST a little bit sooner there might have been some hope


Ben Pronin Says:

This is a pretty great game. Both of them are showing us just how talented they are. Nice points from both guys, hopefully the rest of the match will continue this way.


Kimmi Says:

gumble challenge by fed…oh he got it..super!


jane Says:

The Canadian commentators did say Nole has shoulder problems, left side, due to his two-handed backhand, hence he had a trainer work on it during Chardy match. Burwash truly feels Nole could end up with an issue there, and should try to use his one-hand slice more, etc. If Fed is exploiting the Nole backhand, it’s a smart move on his part.

So deuce #43? Is Nole post-poning the inevitable? Feels like it.


stu Says:

this game IS the match IMO. the outcome decides the winner


jane Says:

Deuce # 44 now.


Kimmi Says:

why..what a serve. Djoko hold. important game to hold that was. hope federer can keep it up…

c’mon fed. hold your game


Ben Pronin Says:

Shades of Nole over here. That’s the grit I was talking about. Good to know he’s not a completely softy.


jane Says:

Monster hold!! Don’t think it will decide the winner like you stu, but I am happy Djok is around a little longer.


stu Says:

i was just excited jane :). i still don’t see him winning this match


puckbandit Says:

Holy crap, what just happened? Could be great third set


Ben Pronin Says:

These 2 play some odd matches.


stu Says:

what an ugly DF! you hit with the strings, Nole, not the frame!


puckbandit Says:

or not?


Ben Pronin Says:

And that’s why he’s got 16 slams!!


stu Says:

that was a fantastic shot from the Fed


Kimmi Says:

oh.no! I knew it. i stopped watching when fed was serving.

federer, c’mooon


stu Says:

predictions, anyone?!


Ben Pronin Says:

This is just too weird. These guys play some odd matches, though. Starting from Djoker’s first win over Fed back in 07, they both like to blow leads against each other.


Kimmi Says:

lets not say federer will win. because he is not winning. lets just watch the match. no predictions please!


Ben Pronin Says:

Predictions? Phoo. I don’t think it’s ever been this tough to make a 50-50 call.


i am it Says:

We have a match. Surprising turnaround. Give us a 3rd set tiebreaker, play like that 15-min game. Go Nole, go Fed !


Duro Says:

I’m throwing up all the time…


zinaldo Says:

Federor better hope someone beats nadal for him because with his game deteriorating this way he is never going to beat him,i mean now even his forehand has become useless .


zinaldo Says:

instead of players losing hopes they seem to get even more confident playing him now days because of his poor play and mental lapses.


stu Says:

again, tennis is SUCH a mental game. fed looks flustered, Nole looks confident…by the next game they could switch!


puckbandit Says:

Just read this article by Damien Cox about the Murray/Rafa match. I like his hockey work, but I think he’s way off in this article.

He credits Murrays serve and return (return ok i’ll give him that) and Rafa poor play for victory.

Also states Rafa surprised to find Murray best him on movement. Huh????? Murray moves better on hard courts.

I think I’m going to change careers and start wriing about tennis. Could do much better than this effort. Did he even watch the match?

http://bit.ly/9EJHiH


jane Says:

Another huge hold from Nole! I am so happy he got a set. But what a topsy-turvy match, like Murray vs. Monfils the other day.

Okay Fed fans – blank, Kimmi, contador, Fot – I do see how Roger has concentration lapses where he didn’t used to do. I watched the Berdych match closely to record some feedback for Madmax last night, and a similar thing happened when Fed just went off the boil after a killer first set. He’s not as consistently brilliant as he used to be but still.

I still expect he’ll win this match, but I am just happy to see that Nole is no longer the zombie of set one, and has calmed down.


puckbandit Says:

I predict one guy will win and one guy will lose.

how’s that ;)


puckbandit Says:

I don’t know if it is Fed losing concentration or . . .

If his opponents don’t fade away as easily as they used to. In fact, it seems that Fed has a hard time when opponents raise their game and compete hard after falling behind or after surviving some of Fed’s magic. (which he still has)

Happened last night, happened tonight, in USO 2009 to Delpo. Think about it, this is what Rafa has done in his defeats of Roger.


Kimmi Says:

puckbandit – thank you. thats the way to go. both players are playing the same…

lets not give fed the win yet..he is struggling right now too.

Lets just watch and see who will come thru.

Go fed


tennisfansince76 Says:

Djokovich has gone godzilla on Fed. some truly monstrous forehands. of course Fed blew 3 bps to go up 2 breaks in set 2. coffee is for closers!


Ben Pronin Says:

I agree, puckbandit. Nadal was the only one to really push Federer back in the day. Federer struggled with that (although to be fair, it was 6-8 prior to 08). Then Djokovic and Murray started pushing him and then a bunch of other guys. Now Fed loses more often. Oh and it’s something Nalbandian did a good job of too a couple of times.


stu Says:

this is getting to be the quality match we were hoping for, Jane…i wish they were playing 5 sets, then i wouldn’t be so nervous right now!


jane Says:

A comment about the crowd in the two semis; I think they’ve been very well behaved, appreciating both players, supporting both when they have need it.


puckbandit Says:

Is this one of those matches Roger was referring to in his presser last night that he used to lose? Seems so. A win tonight could further his resolve that he can hang tough when momentum shifts and play through rough patches.


jane Says:

Bad time to try the dropper. Now one into the net. Not looking good for Nole a.t.m.


Kimmi Says:

0-40 from no where

Go fed. here here


jane Says:

There’s the match.


Kimmi Says:

break! c’mon fed

Can he hold here


stu Says:

roger needs to remember to say thank you!


puckbandit Says:

How deflating is that for Nole? Yikes. Demon has crawled back into Nole’s body.


Ben Pronin Says:

It looks like, for the most part, Djokovic is still pretty nervous.


i am it Says:

This is how a quitter plays, i.e. Djoko in that 4th game of the 3rd set. A match that he had under control, he decides to give up. Miserable !


gordon Says:

I am tired of watching Djokovic acting…


jane Says:

Oh well, it turned out to be an okay match.


Kimmi Says:

its a hold. I don’t believe it yet. C;mon federer don’t lose it


tennisfansince76 Says:

that break was kind of a donation by Djoker. having serious trouble w/ the high backhand. Djoker has physical problems but not tonight. biggest problem seems to be mental. when he makes a lot of errors it seems like he is tentative not hitting thru the ball. in the 2nd half of 2nd set he looked like 07.08 Djoker. serving well. monster groundies


tennisfansince76 Says:

Does Novak believe in miracles?


Kimmi Says:

hopefully the fat lady will sing for federer.


tennisfansince76 Says:

re: Puckbandit

maybe Djoker should get an exorcism. perhaps that will solve his problems. he should see if he can work one into his training schedule before the USO


Kimmi Says:

can fed hold here..important game here


Ben Pronin Says:

Jekyll and Hyde, no kidding. Djokovic changes every point. One point he over hits and the next point he plays smart consistent tennis. What is up with this guy’s head?


Kimmi Says:

great point from both


Kimmi Says:

a danger game for fed here..c’mon


Kimmi Says:

challeneg..how important is this challenge…goes rogers way

break point


tennisfansince76 Says:

re: Ben

great title for a one man play. or maybe a song title ala the pixies ( where is my mind? ). i bet Novak hum sthat song to himself during the match.


Kimmi Says:

what a return..another break point..oh no


stu Says:

haha the commentators are pretty funny tonight


Kimmi Says:

“C’mon” fed says


jane Says:

tennisfansince76 “maybe Djoker should get an exorcism. ” You know a good Catholic priest?? ; )

Tonight Nole’s been Jekyll & Hyde; Godzilla; a zombie – my, he needs some help!


puckbandit Says:

@tennisfansince76

see my post during Nole comeback. I wrote he must have had an exorcism after second game of set 2

Great minds think alike.

bandit aka tennisfansinceforever


Kimmi Says:

djoko returning those second serve

ace..go fed


Kimmi Says:

another duece


Kimmi Says:

DF..oh dear


tennisfansince76 Says:

re jane

I am buddhist. we have our thing they have theirs. i notice Nole wears a cross.


gordon Says:

Even Federer is confused … Thanks to him Djokovic is getting chances.


tennisfansince76 Says:

bad dropshot.


stu Says:

wow, impressive point to get back on serve!


Kimmi Says:

break back..on no..what a drop shot by fed. he had the whole court to wack the ball too..oh well


puckbandit Says:

What a roller coaster! I’m pouring myself another glass of wine, for sure!


Ben Pronin Says:

Djokovic returns the favor, gets back Fed’s dropper. Wow. This is quite a match. Really nice to see the fight from both these guys, particularly Novak who’s been quite lame lately. But Fed is playing well. Better than he’s played in a long time. It’s great to see. The back and forth pull between the top guys is super exciting for the sport.


jane Says:

“Nirvana” couldn’t hurt tennisfansince76; maybe he should hum “Smells like Teen Spirit” instead of the Pixies?

I can’t believe he broke back. Nice to see him fighting. Good job Nole.


tennisfansince76 Says:

on a catholic tip it looks like Nole has accomplished a resurrection today.


tennisfansince76 Says:

re Jane

ha ha but mybe Lithium would be better for bad Nole. or how about Iron Man by Black Sabbath to get himself pumped up.


jane Says:

No aces in the pocket for Nole. It’d be nice if he could do three in a row like Murray today. He’s got 1 measly one to Fed’s 10. 3 doubles now. Come on Nole just hold at least; let’s go to a third set tiebreak!


jane Says:

tennisfansince76 maybe “paranoid” Ha ha ha.


tennisfansince76 Says:

party time


Kimmi Says:

federer needs to hold here

bad start..oh no!


Kimmi Says:

0-30 hmmm


gordon Says:

As soon as Federer raises the lavel of his game Djokovic is lost


tennisfansince76 Says:

Djoker donation at deuce


Kimberly Says:

djoko miss on big point there.


Kimmi Says:

wow! what a hold.


jane Says:

Yep, bad miss. Could be crucial.


tennisfansince76 Says:

re: jane paranoid ha ha that is perfect.

re: Gordon that is the key to all tennis. raising the lavel.


puckbandit Says:

Would love to see tiebreak. Both deserve to have it go distance.


puckbandit Says:

Without new technology, those crazy angle forehands like the one they sowed of Fed would not be possible.


puckbandit Says:

Haha,

Cahill very quiet, admits to having no good answers for what is happening in this match.

Always loved Killer Cahils commentary, never better than tonight.


Ben Pronin Says:

100% agree, puckbandit. I love Cahill. And to be fair, Fowler and Gilbert have done a pretty good job tonight, too. This is a terribly weird match. But in a good way, almost. They’re both showing heart and it’s nice to see. They’re fighting for the number 2 spot, after all.


tennisfansince76 Says:

if Djoker plays like this at USO he has a chance. of course alot depends on conditions. if the heat and and humidity remain on the east coast it could be tough on him.


Kimberly Says:

15-30 Fed serve

Go Novak


tennisfansince76 Says:

ugly couple of pts by Fed.


Kimberly Says:

Break Point, Go Novak!!!!!!!


stu Says:

win or lose, im happy with Nole this match


Kimmi Says:

15-40 oh no..bad game by fed. again. I can’t trust this guy now-a-days


Kimberly Says:

donation on break point back to deuce


Kimberly Says:

sick point from Novak


gordon Says:

Finaly good game !!!


puckbandit Says:

OH. MY. GOD.

Can Nole finish the job?

That would be a . . .


stu Says:

that was fantastic Nole…now he does deserve the break!


tennisfansince76 Says:

i was supposed to be on the road an hour ago. thanks fed. thanks nole. that was a serious shotmaking exhibition by both


Kimmi Says:

is that a donation or what..oh dear

fed, you will never get chances like this. c’mon

what a shot by djoko..another break point


Ben Pronin Says:

What a freaking point. Holy crap. That’s just amazing stuff from both guys. And to end it on a winner like that, beautiful stuff. If anyone needed a reason to love tennis, there it is.


Kimmi Says:

duece..nervous nervous times for djoko and federer fans


stu Says:

If it goes to a tiebreak, I say Roger wins.


Ben Pronin Says:

Sick shot from Fed. Nice little racket smash from Djoker. Not sure why though, that was a really good shot from Fed.


tennisfansince76 Says:

clutch hold by Fed


Kimberly Says:

smashed racket


Ben Pronin Says:

Did anyone see that sign? “It’s called Rogers Cup for a reason” with a picture of Federer. Haha, I love it. Great stuff.


Kimmi Says:

He holds. can’t stands these close game. phew!


gordon Says:

Now he is imitating Safin. Wow when he will stop acting be himself, like he was in 2007/08?


tennisfansince76 Says:

actually at this pt somebody has to lose but both guys have let it all hang out. no shame either way


tennisfansince76 Says:

Nole sucking air uh oh


puckbandit Says:

@Ben

Agree about Fowler and Gilbert. Gilbert a little too gabby at times, as usual. But he has such good insight you don’t dare wish for him to shut up.

I also like how Fowler challenges Gilbert when he goes off the grid with his comments.


tennisfansince76 Says:

danger will robinson


Kimmi Says:

now its time for

0-30 from nole..hmmmm

can fed get it or can novak hold


jane Says:

“win or lose, im happy with Nole this match” True, but he has all those bps and now he’s going to be broken. Would have been happier with a tiebreak.


Kimmi Says:

federer concentrate


Kimmi Says:

what a drop shot bu djoker


puckbandit Says:

WHOA!!!

Nole is either brave or stupid


stu Says:

great tennis only in parts, but lots of heart throughout


tennisfansince76 Says:

when Novak hasn’t made mistakes he has outhit Fed alot of times in this match


Kimmi Says:

novak is winning all then long rallies


Ben Pronin Says:

Win or lose, I’m still calling Djokovic’s fitness into question. He is one of the best movers in the game, but he’s played a number of points where he’s been too lazy to move probably because he’s tired.


tennisfansince76 Says:

match pt on a donation


Kimmi Says:

match point. go federer


Kimmi Says:

sorry nole fans. it was a close tense match.

congrats to federer


puckbandit Says:

Oh, what a pity. Wanted a breaker.

Congrats Fed fans. My heart was with Djoker. Nice to see him rally but not enough in the end.


tennisfansince76 Says:

re: Ben and thats a night match w/ ideal conditions for Djoker. whats he gonna due on a muggy sunny day. i wonder how he’ll look next week in cincy? alright now i’ve got to hit the road. good eveningf everyone. reaally enjoyed all the posts today


Ben Pronin Says:

Sick win for Federer. He’s happy to come through, and now he probably won’t be in Nadal’s half at the USO.

As for Djokovic, great showing. Despite the loss and shaky play throughout, this was his best match of the year. He showed the spirit that got him to his current spot at the top. I have to say I’m quite proud, and no MTOs to boot.


jane Says:

Well, congrats to Fed for the win and getting back to number 2. Mean a lot for the USO. He has to defend the title in Cincy to keep it, but Nole was in the finals so Fed should stay #2. He did deserve it tonight!

stu, agree with you that it was a great match in parts.

Great fight back by Nole!! Good for him, showed a lot of gumption. I am glad we had a three-setter anyhow.


GDSNAB Says:

Yeah good match, me too I really enjoyed all the posts here, even I didn’t participate :); So Good Night Everybody


puckbandit Says:

@Ben

R you saying it’s an endurance problem or strength or both?


Duro Says:

Fair and square… Congrats Fed fans. How it started for Novak – it ended excellently. Still, no shame in this defeat, I think. See you in Cincinnati!


jane Says:

Kimmi – the final, for whom will you be?


stu Says:

Good chatting, everybody and good luck to Federer fans tomorrow!


jane Says:

Yes, thought I could hunker down. But it turned out to be more fun to chat with y’all. Cheers. Should be a cooker of a final; will Murray avenge AO? It may be huge if he does. And huge if he doesn’t.


puckbandit Says:

“I hope I’m not too banged up for tomorrow”

Fed laying mental game groundwork for final saying Andy has the advantage tomorrow.

Hmm, do you think Roger believes he beat Andy at USO final because he had the advantage of rest and Andy played through rain delay? I suspect not.

Before you Fed fans crawl up and all over my back, I don’t think Roger was being derogatory, just “thorough” in his comments.


Kimmi Says:

let the best man win jane. both players have struggled this year..they both need the big win for the confidence.

Goodluck to both federer and muzza.

wow, what a day for me. all my faves won. it does not happen often. A very happy camper i am today.


contador Says:

congrats kimmi!


puckbandit Says:

Looking forward to a great match tomorrow.

Will be pulling for Murray. Think he needs it more.

Fed has AO under his belt, and I don’t care what people say, still knows he has the stuff to win majors.

Murray still needs to win a major in his career and a title in 2010, and needs to build confidence after a post AO fall off in his play.


blank Says:

Thanks to Federer, now I am 40th in the draw challenge!

One thing is certain, I am not going to have Fed go beyond the QF in the Cincy draw.


puckbandit Says:

@Ben

Would really like your opinion on the Damien Cox article I posted above. Am I wrong with my criticism?


Gordo Says:

One thing I will say about Sean Randall – he is brilliant at predicting how many sets a match will go, but God awful at picking the winners. :)


Kimmi Says:

thanks contador – where did you dissapear to?

Was it ice cream time or what..

are the congratulations for the bracket or what?

That is it for me now for this bracket. nadal was my winner.


Kimmi Says:

blank congrats..you are 4oth..wow. if fed wins you will probably be on the leader board. goodluck


Colin Says:

Regarding the question of Murray’s coachless progress, I wonder if there’s some interesting psychological explanation. I’d say Andy is a rather cussed individual, who doesn’t like being told what to do. Could it be McClagan actually WAS telling him all along to be more agressive, but Murray wouldn’t listen? Now Andy’s on his own, he can be aggressive and convince himself that it’s his own idea!
Can he now beat Federer? If he can maintain his level, and up his first serve percentage to what it was against Nalbandian, I think he can.


contador Says:

wow blank! kimmi should be up there too!

my bracket fell apart miserably, since i picke nole and nadal final and nadal winning.

well my heart is happy : ) old federer won. but very sorry for nole.

no i have to go watch my dvr of the match!

so blank, may be none of my business but what’s your pick for winning cincy?


blank Says:

Gordo, I was just going to say that. It was the exact opposite of what he predicted.

Sean, I am still impressed with your clay season call after Miami. Predicting Nadal would win all tournaments and the FO was a bold call. You get it right with the big picture…not individual matches.


Ben Pronin Says:

Puckbandit, question regarding Novak’s fitness: He could definitely bulk up quite a bit. He’s a very skinny guy and a little more muscle wouldn’t hurt. He needs to stabilize his body. But endurance is the big thing. Fed has 5+ years on Novak and yet he was never breathing heavy during their long exchanges. That’s absurd. I mean, Fed works like a horse from my understanding, so nothing odd with him. The issue is with Djokovic. He needs to aim to become just as fit as Nadal and Federer are. And Murray and Roddick.

As for the article, I didn’t see enough of the Nadal-Murray match to give the most constructive criticism, but the one part that stood out was where the guy said it’s rare for someone to match Nadal in terms of movement. Sounds like he’s never seen Nadal play Murray before, or Djokovic or Federer for that matter. There’s a reason they’re called the Big 4. All of them move unbelievably well and cause obvious fits for the other guys because of this.


jane Says:

Kimmi, confidence-wise I see what you mean, but Fed has a slam and Murray does not have one title yet (unusual) this season. Fed’s in gravy-mode, doing what he probably wanted or needed which is to secure number 2 for the USO (in all likelihood). Anyhow, hoping for another excellent final – 3 sets. Or two tight ones at the least.


contador Says:

i couldn’t watch it kimmi. the awful play from nole the 1st set and i felt like federer was going to go walkabout….

but they must have found some balance to the match.

i needed to go shopping anyway. : )

tomorrow i am on-call. i had friday / saturday off.


blank Says:

Thanks Kimmi.

Contador,

As I said, right now it’s just a draft and I have Berdy winning it against Murray. I may change that depending on tomorrow’s result. But one thing is certain, I will not have Fed go beyond QF. I am afraid it will tire him out.


Kimmi Says:

contador – I am not even close to blank. I am 1181st and blank is 40th.

blank will probably pick federer again in cincy.

I will pick Muzza this time. federer in nadal draw..hmmmm. mental problems for fed there. but i will still hope he wins.


contador Says:

yeah congrats for everything kimmi!

i don’t know anything about picking obviously so i have no clue who will win tomorrow.

had nole and nadal won as they were supposed to…. : )

in my mind lol


Kimmi Says:

blank – do you think berdych will beat nadal, he is on nadal qtr..somehow berdych struggles a lot with rafa, i don’t know though


blank Says:

Contador,

If you keep playing the challenge for long enough you are bound to do well at some point. I think that’s what happened in my case. Of the 5 draw challenges I played this year, before this one, 2800 was my best rank (14000 out of 17000 was worst)


contador Says:

blank always picks federer??? aw, such a fan!

well, i can’t decide. it would be un freaking believable for muzz to win toronto and cincy. such pressure on him to win US Open!


Kimmi Says:

jane – you are right about muzza not winning a title yet. I hope he wins. he needs it more i guess.

But since I love federer too.. I still go with “let the best man win”


dari Says:

Had to stay away from tennis x for the fed match. My bf was laughing at me cause I’m in makeup and hair rollers yelling at the tv! But the yelling was worth it!
Crazy nole or not, Berdy flailing or not, ROGER IS WINNING THESE MATCHES and that’s what we hope for!
Gooooo Roger.
Ps LOVE killer cahill, BG is my new johnnie mac and Chris fowler, though he has to get corrected by the pros a lot of the time, occasionally has a good point.
I love tennis.
Buen suerte manana, ROG!


contador Says:

may i ask blank is blank your username?

i have had fun tracking kimmi and kimberly’s picks

that way i can get at least be happy for something when my picks lose : )

yeah well my best was rome, my first attempt. so i’m going backwards!


blank Says:

Contador,

Blank00 is my username :-)


kimberly Says:

I’m picking rafa to the semis to lose to roger.

Having trouble w isner nalby match.

Don’t know what to do with nole. I think I’m going to take roddick far. Its a very fast court and roddick can play in the heat.


puckbandit Says:

@Ben

Thanks for your comments. I agree that Nole has to address fitness. I’m not sure exactly how because I think his problems are a bit mysterious.

As for article, I think not understanding one of the greatest assets of the number 1 through 4 players in the world is a fatal flaw for someone covering tennis for a major newspaper.

I like D. Cox when he writes about hockey. He’s bold and independent. He should stick to hockey.


puckbandit Says:

Kimmi and Jane,

I posted earlier that I believe Murray needs this win more than fed for those same reasons: no majors, no titles in 2010.

Fed never lacks for confidence, nor should he.

Looking forward to it.


blank Says:

Actually when I said I always pick Federer, that was not accurate. I was doing that for the 1st 2 years but after last year I got so pi**ed I started to not pick him. It would have been hard for me to not pick him at my home tournament ;-)


contador Says:

oh thanks blank ( grinning)

i cant pick berdych to beat nadal. ugggh


kimberly Says:

I thought of taking murray out to fish but not sure I have the nerve.


contador Says:

i see what you mean blank. and so lucky for you to be there last night!

is baghdatis a little injured? i didn’t see him play last week

cilic messed me up. he was disappointingly weak


contador Says:

no. i mean what do i know but i have to pick muzz over fish

verdasco was legitimately injured (i think) i have fish beating youzhny but not muzz

i want to pick bagman over berdych so bad but…


Kimmi Says:

how will nalby do in cincy. lose to djoko in the 3rd round ?

can baggy beat cilic?

what about hewitt and Lu


Kimmi Says:

who to win in cincy? is it one of the usual suspect..nadal, federer, djoko and muzza?

OK, maybe i should get out of top 4. roddick is an enigma. How far should I pick him…


kimberly Says:

Kimmi-what do you think of nalby-isner?

I was playing around with the bracket and landed with isner/djoko and started laughing. In the heat both of them have major issues.

I really would like to take roddick out of that section. On a fast hard court and heat I think he can do well. But I want to pick roddick not matheiu again!!!!


contador Says:

looked up the weather in cincy. oh man, the high is 90′s and above. i saw a bit of a recorded sharapova match and mary jo fernandez was saying it was over 100F on the court!

that’s not nole’s kind of weather

cilic hurt me last week but i keep picking him. baghdatis is playing better but i thought he turned and ankle or something…ah who knows

i pick baggy


goat galz Says:

Kimmi, Lu will beat Roddick again and it will be because of his imaginary mono.

Von, have you taken your nightly meds yet?


contador Says:

just pick whoever i dont kimmi hahaha


grendel Says:

It was great fun reading all your posts (which I have just done, following end of match), wish I could have joined in, but don’t have a laptop. Got a real sense of the tension and drama of the match from Kimmi, who provided a steady flow of comment as others anguished, pulled their hair out, and expressed varying degrees of disbelief. Top award to jane for unfailing pessimism regarding her chap – even when it was unwarranted – but at the same time being a good sport.

Ben’s comment: “It’s a tale of two head-cases” was sort of apt, but he revised his opinion later and the fact is, whatever the quality of the tennis, it was an absolutely riveting match.

Since everybody’s probably now pushed off to the pub or whatever the American equivalent is, I’ll put in my piece. At 2-0 in the second set, Federer very nearly got a double break. When he failed I immediately assumed, perhaps a touch irrationally, that Djokovic was going to win. After all, in Rome Fed was 6-1, 3-0 against Nole, and still contrived to lose, and then there was that time Fed smashed his racket – he’d been all over Nole in the first set, and then Djokovic took him apart the next two. And, as Zinaldo keeps reminding us, Federer these days seems to be quite incapable of playing two good sets on the trot (against a great player, that is).

Even so, Djokovic showed great resolve (he must surely have been helped by the memory of those bizarre matches) and really started to play the better tennis. Very clean driving, especially forehands down the line, hard deep shots time and again finding the mark and leaving Federer floundering. And he couldn’t match it.

However, this was a different Federer to what we have seen lately, there was a glint of real determination in his eyes, and he played it crafty. He varied the pace to fool Djokovic occasionally, did some nice under spin slices and once or twice pulled out the sort of impossible shot he was once known for. And above all, his serving was spectacularly effective, including sometimes the 2nd serve (one lovely long kicker I recall) when he needed it. Overall, his first serve percentage might not have been high, I don’t know – but it was generally available when he wanted it, and he did vary it beautifully, too.

Djokovic was dictating the play, though, dominating from the back and winning nearly all the long rallies whilst Federer was piling up the unforced errors. One of those rare “genius” shots gained Federer a break point – but he proceeded to miss a down the line type of shot which Djokovic had been doing as a matter of routine. How did Federer win? He’s become a fox. He hung on, and waited for the errors. For instance, when Fed broke Nole for 3-1 in the 3rd, there was only one legitimate Fed shot, laying the ball at his opponents feet – otherwise, all errors from the Serb.

Zinaldo was moved to write:”I mean now even his forehand has become useless”. That is an exaggeration, but there is no doubt whose fh was the more potent, after that blazing first set, Federer hardly ever hit a fh winner. And his bh, so potent against Murray in the AO, was at best serviceable (some nice underslice)and still included those absurd nothing shots landing enticingly for his opponent to blast into oblivion.

How did Federer win? You have to ask this question at least twice. Without any question Djokovic outplayed him in the second two sets. And considering the hammering he received in the first set, he showed conclusively what a great competitor he is, but even so, he cracked at the crucial moments – for instance, the point preceding match point and the winning match point itself were both errors from Djokovic.

You have to conclude that Federer just wouldn’t go away. He waited and waited and was eventually rewarded. Djokovic has got to be a leading contender for the US Open after this performance. He just needs to tweak his mind a little.


blank Says:

Contador,

I saw Bagdhatis on Tuesday. He lost and I can’t recall to whom.

Regarding Cilic. I always pick him…he is my favourite young player. I saw his entire match against Troicki on Tuesday at the stadium live. I was sitting so close to him, I could have touched him if I leaned over :-) But the thing is he had some serious issues all through the match. He was so downbeat and totally lacking energy. He lost the 1st set and was Troicki was serving 4-5 in the 2nd I think…Cilic went over to the umpire and had a long conversation, apparently under lot of discomfort, and looked like he wanted to retire. But anyway, he carried on and lost within minutes.

So don’t know what to make of that. Was he just tired or does he have some health issues? You know these young kids…they want to play all tournaments at all costs. So I am pretty sure he is in Cincy, but not sure how good he is going to be. It was just sad watching him that day.


kimberly Says:

If novak gets day matches he will lose to the first halfway decent fit player he plays.

I’m taking roddick out of that section after I scan google reports to assure myself he is playing.

Fish beat murray twoce this year. But I’m not sure I have the nerve to do it. I’m at murray roddick fed rafa. I feel good on the fed rafa side.

Thoguhts on soderling, almagro, gulbis?


contador Says:

ah, yes i remember now, blank. baggy lost to chardy and baggy was wiped out. but he has now had time to rest


Kimmi Says:

kimberly – i think nalby will beat isner. as soon as nalby return isner serve..the baseline game is better from nalby. I think nalby will lose to nole tho.

goat galz – lu has to win against soda first before he plays roddick. It will be strange if they meet again. they were meant collide again in toronto but luckly roddick retired.


contador Says:

so i will take your word on cilic, blank. good scouting and lucky you being there live.

cilic has not been the cilic of last summer

i don’t think bagman is too bad. he had just lost legg mason to nalby.


Twocents Says:

Beautiful post, grendel, summarizing perfectly a young talent fighting his way into vintage and an over-the-hill genius searching for his tenth life.

Great match, Djok and Fed.


grendel Says:

Blank, the commentators on the Cilic/Troiki match said Cilic was feeling ill.


jane Says:

grendel, I get an award!? LOL. I don’t know if it’s actually a good thing, a little gray in its description (i.e., best pessimist, but good sport); then again, I live in the twilight so it’s entirely appropriate. Thank you. I mean it! Though we’ve had our debates, I totally respect your opinion and love your description of the match.

Fed’s a fox now hey? So what devours and/or outsmarts foxes? Do godzillas? Bears? What sort of “tweaking” can Nole do!?

I guess bulls. Yes, bulls must be the fox’s enemy. No?


kimberly Says:

Baggy has disappointed me on a few draws now…the biggest one being on the tennis channel’s wimby where I actually felt as a former semi-finalist he would go deep. And I had him in the qaurters here. He’s extremely talented and always tough to call. He can go down first round or pull a major upset. And he always seems to do the opposite of what I predict!


Andrew Miller Says:

I was wrong about Federer (big win over Djokovic) and right about Nadal – I thought Murray would take him. Federer is simply a superior player to Djokovic.


contador Says:

i’m having nalbandian take out isner atm

gulbis is one of those ….if i pick him he loses. but i have to pick him over melzer and then he faces muzz and loses.

picking soda? everything hinges on roddick’s form. ???

i pick wawa over almagro


Kimmi Says:

andrew miller – that match was sooo close. just one or two points here and there.

i am glad federer tough it out till the end. novak has few break chances to go ahead, just wasn’t to be.

luckly fed was serving first. nervous game from djoko finished him in the end. all in all it was a very tense match.


jane Says:

kimberly, I know you doubt Nole, that you feel his issues are getting worse not better (and you may be right), and that you’re the bracket queen : -) so you know this game better than I. However, Nole has managed to do well at Cincy for two years in a row (two finals, losing to Fed last year and Murray the year before), and it is always hot and humid there from what I understand. Not all his matches are night ones, so he has been able to fight through some day ones. Plus, he’s lost now in Canada, hence he can go to Cincy and practice for a day or two. Anyhow, you may be right to count him out; I am utterly biased, and frankly a little confused, when it comes to Djoko. But thought I’d throw that in.


Kimmi Says:

wawa over almagro is my pick too.

contador – we are the same again. nalby over isner..i think so too

picked soda too..wow conty. better minds speaks the same :)


Fot Says:

I can go to bed happy tonight because Roger won! It was a tough match and I hope Roger has something left in the tank against the younger Murray! Go Roger!!!!

(Sorry Jane, but Nole came back strong in the match so you shouldn’t feel too bad).

Good night all!!!


blank Says:

Kimmi @ 10:10. Sorry missed your post.

I think Berdy has a good chance of beating Nadal at Cincy. He used to beat him a few times couple of years ago. Now, Berdy is much better in terms of game and confidence…and Nadal may not want to push his body too much just before the USO.

And btw, I am not going to pick Fed to win Cincy. I want him to lose in QF and get some rest before the USO.


blank Says:

Grendel @ 11:08 “Blank, the commentators on the Cilic/Troiki match said Cilic was feeling ill.”

Thanks Grendel. I didn’t know the match was on TV. Berdy’s match was going on at the center court and I wanted to see Cilic more than that, so I went there. What illness could that be? Hope it’s not a virus like mono or something. I like that kid.


kimberly Says:

Contador-I’m taking wawa too over almagro.but I don’t feel great about it.

Gulbis played well agianst soda.I think he will take meltzer.

What are everyones thoughts on nole. I’m ousting him in the quarter to roddick.

I actually think rafa has a better chance against berdych than cilic but I’m taking berdy and then right now I have rafa losing to roger. Feel good about that semi but having loyalty and h2h issues there.

Cilic matches up well against rafa. He takes the ball early kind of like davy, who always matches up well on hard against him.


contador Says:

my recording stopped at 4-4 in the third! cr**

have to go see fed/ nole on you tube. i watched the gulbis- bellucci match on youtube. wow! both of them punishing the ball. gulbis played some ugly tennis but won in 2 sets. the next match he lost in 3 to soderling…i think gulbis won the first set and was on to beating soderling but needed the physio and it was his let again..i dunno-

gulbis is one of those who can beat nearly anyone… but in the decider he could not move to get to the ball.


Kimmi Says:

blank – since nadal lost to berdych in 2007 he has won the last 7 times they have played..does not matter what surface they play.

but then u could be right..he lost to federer so many times but now he is able to beat him.

Until i see berdy beat rafa then I will have confidence to pick him for bracket challenge..otherwise i always go for rafa


contador Says:

s/b “leg” not “let”


contador Says:

okay i remember what it was with gulbis. it was not the muscle, …he was “cramping”

maybe he can man-up and is practicing in the heat and getting himself into form. i’ll pick him to go one match.


kimberly Says:

Sharapova just split sets with the really long name girl.

Any thoughts on my boy dogopolov?

Verdasco?


kimberly Says:

Btw, my five year old cried for twenty minutes after rafa lost.

Then cried again when his second fav lost hours later. It was awful.


contador Says:

other than i love dolgo’s hair lol

also love watching dolgo’s tennis. i think he’s got a lot of talent but beating ferrer? i want to pick dolgo but ferrer has the experience.

dolgo beat youzhny last week and took berdych to 3 sets


contador Says:

kimberly

verdasco – definitely banged up. had a massage…mto and limped valiantly to defeat, beaten by lucky chardy

you poor 5 yr old!!


contador Says:

i am falling asleep. good nite everybody. i’ve had enough tennis!


andrea Says:

great men’s matches today.

murray was very good today. uncharacteristic negative body language from nadal. you get the feeling he’s dying to get a hard court title in advance of the USO.

thought the fed/novak match was going to be a wipe out after the first set so good for novak for coming back. started reading fed’s serve and really bullying him in the rallies.

congrats to fed for taking back the #2 ranking!


guy Says:

federer demonstrates the importance of serve.
djoko may never win a slam again while his serve is such garbage [esp for his height]. 6’2, he really has no excuse, and the years are going by.


jane Says:

Ah Kimberly, that’s so sad about your 5 year old. It’s also quite sweet that he or she is so devoted. My 9 year old was disappointed for Nole because we couldn’t believe how he fought back and thought he may pull out a miracle resurrection. But alas, was not to be this time. Cute how kids get so into it.


kimberly Says:

My five year old is a boy and we order all of rafas outfits in boys size. Now he wants the shirt nole wore tonight, the yellow one with the bird on the back.

Night all. Good luck to everyones fav in the final. I think ill pull for murray.


super man Says:

super man did it :) i cannot stop smiling :)

mad-max, hope you loved it. you too kimmi. and fot, skeezer and blank and contador. anyone else? :)

sorry jane. but joker looked super in yellow and black. my girlfriend wants me to get that outfit.

kimberly,my girlfriend sobbed too, with her two faves losing. i consoled her saying she will have her revenge in cincy. i can smile now since she is asleep. lol

is it just me or does murray look a bit like gulbis?

may the best dude win tomorrow.


Ben Pronin Says:

Interesting point, how cool would it be if we got the other final in Cincy? If Nadal beats Fed and Djoker beats Murray then the top 4 players will have all played each other in the 2 lead up events to the US Open. Of course I’m getting ahead of myself, but that would be something special.


Skeezerweezer Says:

@duro

Kudos to you earlier post, I know I much a fan you are of Nole :). Hope your fav gets his health in order, the guy has big talent on the groundies and belongs battling for the top…

@kimmi

Thanks as usual to the blow by blows, couldn’t watch the match….traveling

@grendal

Thanks for the nice post match post, enjoyed it.

@jane & margot

YES! :)

@ Madmax, dari, Fot, twocents, super man, BP, SR, and the you know who you are’s,,,,,

YES! :)

Tomorrows final is a win win for both players. One can claim to be in a final in the HC season ( a good prep for the USO ) and the other given a masters title. I think I will not be feeling bad for either player if they are runnerup. Both of them needed a tourney like this with a top quality draw. Should be fun…….and back home just in time to see a good final….:)

out


funches Says:

By the way, that’s 13 consecutive hard court events Nadal has played without winning dating back to Indian Wells of 09.

He’s obviously dangerous on anything, but hard courts are by far his worst surface.


jane Says:

Fot, super man – no need for the “sorrys,” really. It’s alright. They win some; they lose some. In the throes of the battle it’s much more dramatic, and for the first set tonight anyway, painful, lol, but I’m truly pleased that Nole hung in there, showed some heart, showed he could’ve won, perhaps, with a better start, a few less errors, and maybe throwing down another ace or two. Additionally, his serves are looking better over all. So am taking away the positives from this one.


Ike Says:

Andy WILL beat Fed today, no doubt about it!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/tennis/8914647.stm


goat galz Says:

they were meant collide again in toronto but luckly roddick retired.

Kimmi, lucky no, calculated yes. That’s when Roddick whipped out that all-purpose mono card.

Hope Roddick takes a page from his “double deckers” as pervy Von so fondly calls her, and retires too.


grendel Says:

jane – I wasn’t meaning to downplay your contributions or anything like that. It’s just that I couldn’t help being amused by your relentless gloom as to the prospects of your guy, since that’s exactly how I tend to be. I rarely have your grace in defeat, however.

Enemy of the fox? Hard to say. A chicken playing possum, perhaps? Exit fox with onset of schizoid tremors.

As for Djokovic, it was very noticeable that when the camera homed in on his support team (both wearing his yellow and black t-shirt) how much concern they were showing. Part of it was natural enthusiasm, but you get the feeling that they know that their man doesn’t quite believe in himself. It’s noticeable how dogged Djokovic is when he’s behind, something is released in him and he plays the great tennis he is capable of.

But once he’s caught up, some of the doubts seem to creep back. No idea what can be done about that.


Kimberly Says:

ok draw challengers:

I am having HUGE trouble with the following two matches:

1. isner nalby
2. nadal federer

Have changed both ways over and over again. Isner is rested, and i just don’t think his serve is even returnable on fast cincy courts. he should be able to hold easy and nalbandians serve is breakable. One bad service games and one tiebreak and isner wins. However, John has issues with the heat and fitness and can easily run out of gas.

Federer is a better HC player but although he’s winning here, i haven’t been overly impressed with his play. And this is Fed/Nadal. He just doesn’t have a good record against Rafa. But he’s a better hardcourt player and their HC record is in Feds favor. UGGH.

keep wavering on gasquet youzney too


Skeezerweezer Says:

mem,

Kudos to you to come out and congratulate Murray’s win over Rafa.

A new found respect have I for you, not that it matters you think, lol.

Your the only Rafa fan I seen on this match come out and do this.

A good sport you are :)

Yoda


Kimmi Says:

Kimberly

isner/ nalby, i went for nalby. your reasoning is good regarding isner serve but nalby is much superior on the baseline. tough one. americans usually play well on north american HC. so, isner could be a good bet especially nalby looked tired in toronto. i wont change, nalby it is.

nadal vs federer..hmmm. i am a big federer fan but unfortunetly my man does not have a good record again nadal. can i go against may man..no way..federer needs a win against nadal. fast hardcourt could be just what he needs. *scratch head*

youzhny /gaesquet

gasquet has played well on clay season, couple of finals and great match with muzza at RG. if it was a best of 3 sets he could have won that match. BUT..big BUT, he has struggled so far on north american HC. its a tough one..I like gasquet to win but youzhy seem to be the most consistent one.

hope this helps. your call!


Kimberly Says:

kimmi-thanks for the tips!!! I’m still torn on the first two but going to listen to your advice and pick Youzney!!!!


contador Says:

good morning draw challenge people!

lol, i have not idea why i am still doing this when i am this bad at it. : )

it’s why i stay clear of las vegas too. : O !

lets see the lists kimmi-kimberly-blank. not that will copy, no, no. i will second guess everything.

what annoys me atm is the qualifiers of course are not all in.
**********
lopez over a Q ( if i could see the Q that could change )

benny over llordra? how does one pick there? frenchi v frenchi, i mean…..doubles partners…. adorable, but i don’t trust either

wawa over almagro ( poor wawa has to play rafa again!) 2nd guessing….

bagman over cilic ( going on blanks scouting report )

bellucci over a qualie ( firm )

hanescu over mathieu

blake over a Q

kohls over horacio zeballos

la monf over a Q

dolgo over ferrer crazy maybe

querry over petz

ginepri? depends on the Q

fish over simon

robredo over berrer

youz over gassed K

melzer over Q

gulbis over young ( praying gulbis got some intravenous therapy for his cramps ) : )

chardy over Q

lu over rusty

go boom boom debakker! over monaco

( then the roddick question. i think with even a touch of mono he can go a round or maybe two ) though thinking he should withdraw or make an appearance v stakhovsky

nalbandian over ljube

isner over kubot

troiki over honeymooner steps


Kimmi Says:

ah kimberly, don’t listen to me. you will lose. just go against me you will be ok. :)

did gasquet have an injury in toronto? i think so. we have to research that..


Kimmi Says:

contador – exactly my picks again.

except llodra over benny…don’y trust them either.

baggy over cilic for me too..but i want to change. i can’t believe cilic losing in the 1st round 2 tournaments in a row. c’mon cilic. he must have recovered whatever was bothering him in toronto conty…no?


contador Says:

of course i don’t know anything for sure but blank reports he (marin) was complaining of feeling ill in toronto.

baggy has had time to rest is another reason. 3rd reason -cilic has not impressed for a long time. what’s up with him?

llordra over benny, beeeny over llordra- i mean, it could be a pre arranged agreement! haha


contador Says:

you are crazy and picked dolgo too, Kimmi?

next round ( i have to get this don b4 i get a call! )

nadal
wawa
baggy ( i could get killed here ) 2nd guessing…
berdych
federer
la monf on man am i wavering on picking him!
querry

(davydenko) big question there

fish
youz
gulbis
muzz
soderling
debakker ( i don’t like the report on roddick )
nalby
nole


contador Says:

Kimmi-i don’t feel great about the early rounds in my bracket. i hate doing this w/o the Q’s known but i have to go.

nadal
berdych
federer
querry
fish ???
murray
soda
nalby ???

arrgh help!


blank Says:

Contdor,

I have Baggy over Cilic, but my heart says Cilic. By the time he get’s on court, I hope he is over whatever it was that was ailing him.

I have Dolgo over Ferrer as well. Ferrer is a great player but I hate watching him play. He is just too defensive and almost always loses to the biggies.

I have Gasq ove Youz. No reason.

Don’t worry about Gulbis. I watched that match too and didn’t look like he hurt anything major. Just a point or 2 made a difference that match.

I have Roddick losing to Soda.


contador Says:

already changing to kohls over la monf – federer will beat either at any rate.

the ONLY reason i am picking nalby over nole is the heat. but that’s what i am doing. plus i want nole to rest up for us open.

nadal
federer
murray
nalbandian

see, i disagree with fed is afraid. maybe a matter of semantics, but fed is not afraid to face nadal, that’s what is absurd. the fact nadal is in feds head is different than afraid, is my point. fed wants to face nadal and conquer his demons, so to speak. : )

federer v murray rematch final


blank Says:

In these draw challenges, it is more important to get most of the QF, SF and F picks right. That has the most weightage. That’s where I think Cincy is going to get unpredictable.


contador Says:

ah….thanks blank.

now i can really fret! : )

all the time i pick gassed K. he lets me down

what do you think about davydenko?


contador Says:

yup. blank, so true.

team nadal might have something up the sleeve….rafa has to be cool for US open.

and nole could be fine in the heat..

thanks for your input , blank

now i have to go. hope to be back in time for the today’s final!


blank Says:

No problem Contador.

Actually, last week in training Davy played a practice match with Kohls. From what I saw, Davy beat Kohls pretty easily. He was moving well from what I could see. But again, he lost earlier than Kohls.


Kimmi Says:

conty..lets have llodra and benny different so we can see who wins… i think you will win it :)

second round.

same again. except

baggy/cilic vs bellucci – I pick bellucci. I see him breaking thru. bellucci. I am crazy. should pick baggy or cilic…grrrr!

La monf vs kohl..I have kohl. hmmm kohl was good in toronto conty, he gave rafa a run..i mean, can he beat la monf. don’t know.

can dolgo make another run..hmmm. very impressed in toronto..almost beat berdych, almost. but querrey must be hungry after losing early in DC and toronto, i think.

i also have davy beating ginepri. He will soon find his game conty. davy is a top 5 player. he can’t keep slumping over and over..go davy.

Fish over hot sauce conty..grrrrr..poor hot sauce, what has happened to him. I have fish too but…

hahaha you have de bakker over roddick..c’mon. I know the mono thing is messing up my head too. But I have roddick beating de bakker.

Go nalby. I pick nalby too. but isner makes me second guessing..no i wont. nalby it is.


kimberly Says:

Contador-at the moment my quarters are

Rafa
Berdy

Fed
Querry

Murray
Fish

Djoko
Roddick


kimberly Says:

And I picked dolgo over ferrer!

Semi
Roddick murray
Roger rafa

Rafa murray final


Kimmi Says:

4th round

same as contador again, hmmmm

except!!

fish!! i have youzhy, no reason. just trusting him that all. should be hot sauce in this qtr.

nalby over djoko! I have djoko here. he is the best bet in cincy I think. reading jane’s post above. she is right about djoko’s record in cincy.


Kimmi Says:

again i have top 4 in the semi..they always ends up in my bracket. can it happen 2 tornaments in row..unlikely.

nadal
federer
muzza
djoko

and the finalist are……..anyones guess!


Kimmi Says:

kimberly

Cool picks. you have roddick to the semi..wow! keep him there, he will probably give you some points.


jane Says:

Inser and Nalbandian have never played, so that’s a tough one. But Nalby is as good a returner as Isner is a server and he’s better off the ground. I’d pick Nalby too Kimmi.

As for Nole vs. Nalby, that’s tough to say. Nole has a 3-1 H2H, beat Nalby 2 & 3 in Monte Carlo, but this is hard court and Nalby is rejuvenated. Both can be so up and down. Kimmi, I don’t want to be your bracket buster! Pick Nole at your own risk. : )


jane Says:

Ferrer did well in Cincy last year – he got to the R16 where he met Fed and had Roger on the ropes. He beat both Cilic and Wawa before he met Fed. I am looking forward to his and Dolgo’s match. It could be really good.


jane Says:

Roddick is a bit of a tough one here, because of the mild mono and as well the rust he must feel from not playing. He should be good to the R16 for sure. Soderling has a 2-1 H2H over Roddick; however, Andy beat him at IW this year in a tightly contested three setter. However, Andy was at his best there/then, in the finals and just about to win Miami. It’s difficult to know what kind of form he will be in here.


kimberly Says:

Jane-my rationale was that isners serve was just virtually unreturnable on such a hot fast court. If nalby is sloppy for one game or a few points in a tie break then its isners match.


Kimmi Says:

” Kimmi, I don’t want to be your bracket buster! Pick Nole at your own risk”

hahahaha jane – i know. but that was a good point from you i thought. Lets see..lets see!


Kimberly Says:

everone has me second guessing roddick, but im going to stick with him. I’m going to say, fast court, heat, short points. So i’m going to tend to the big servers.

I’m sure this will cost me but i’m going to try one slightly wilder draw. I’m boycotting Nole and having Andy win that match. Andy has beaten him quite a few times. I’m thinking back to the AO where Nole wilted in the heat. I think we might see the same type of match. Surely in a an American tournament if that match comes to be the organizers will give it a day match for Andy’s favor.


Kimberly Says:

speaking of heat and fast courts, i’m off to play a match. and its REALLY hot here in miami. I’m sure I’ll pull a nole. If i don’t come back it was nice knowing you everyone!!!!


Mindy Says:

Skeezer,

Regarding your charming post at 10:52 am – Did it ever occur to you that maybe some of us Rafa fans congratulated the Murray fans on other tennis forums? Or does it only count if we do do it here?

It’s nice to know that the way to your heart is to come to this forum and congratulate another player’s fans! I will keep that in mind

Now for my refrain, one more time now on this forum – Congratulations to all Murray fans on his great win today! You have waited and suffered along with your guy and he came back in a big way! Well done!

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