Will it be Roger’s Cup? Murray Mashes Nadal, Faces Federer in Toronto Finale
by Sean Randall | August 15th, 2010, 11:15 am
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Roger Federer and Andy Murray weren’t the two players I picked to reach the final, but there appearance in today’s Rogers Cup Toronto championship match really isn’t a major surprise.

Yesterday, Murray played one the best matches I’ve ever seen from him by crushing World No. 1 Rafael Nadal 6-3, 6-4. Murray, the defending Canadian champ, shed his defensive posture and went on the attack right from start against Spaniard, lashing forehand winners and ripping his crosscourt backhands, never really allowing Rafa any space to breathe.

Nadal did have some chances. Mid-way through the first on a break point Nadal didn’t challenge a Murray second serve which review confirmed would have been a double fault. And in the second set with Murray ahead by a break Nadal managed to rebreak to get back even and finally grab the momentum.

But Murray was nonplussed and broke Nadal again to clinch the match.

“I enjoy playing that way,” Murray said of his aggressive approach. “You know, when I have played against Rafa and when I have needed to against, you know, the best players, I’ve always tried to play more aggressively. You know, I just know I just want to — I want to enjoy, you know, playing my game, sort of express myself on the court how, you know, how I want. You know, obviously I’m without a coach just now, and so it’s a little bit — you know, it’s a little bit different. I’ve been enjoying myself out there and obviously playing well.

“I had to play a slightly different game style, but I played very well today, too,” he said. “I had won of my best matches of the year. I played very well against Rafa in Australia, as well. You know, I just — I like playing him on hardcourts.”

In the evening, I thought Federer would come out ultra-aggressively like he played Friday night, but he really didn’t in a tough 6-1, 3-6, 7-5 victory over Novak Djokovic.

Federer seemed to revert back to his usual ways perhaps eschewing the attacking, run-to-the-net philosophy of new trial coach Paul Annacone. And for the Swiss it worked in the end, but it wasn’t easy.

Although early on this one appeared to be a mismatch. Behind a deluge of errors, Novak dropped the first in a blink and it looked like a quick, early night for both guys when Fed gained the early 2-0 lead in the second. But Novak picked his game up, he cut down on the miscues and he went work by finding the Federer backhand and dictating rallies from baseline.

Djokovic won six of the last seven games in second set, and the momentum was his. Or so it seemed.

Federer raced out to 4-1 advantage in the third set before Novak stormed back (Federer again unable to maintain a lead!). And at 5-5 Djokovic held multiple break chances but he just couldn’t covert. Federer came up big on each one. The dejected Serb smashed his racquet at missed opportunity, then was broken in the very next game after a flurry of errors.

“I was up very quickly, too quickly almost,” said Federer who returned to the No. 2 ranking with the win. “Against a guy like Novak I knew all it would take would be one service break and his whole attitude and demeanor will change. He started to serve better, return better and not miss so much and everything just tightened up. He’s known for being a bit streaky and we saw that tonight. I could have won the match earlier but I’m very happy to have come through anyhow.”

Said Djokovic, “I didn’t find my rhythm. After only half an hour it was already set and break up. But I managed to come back, and I started feeling the ball better. But overall it wasn’t the best performance by my side. I wasn’t serving well when I needed to, and I made a lot of unforced errors on my backhand side.”

After such a horrendous start credit to Novak for his strong recovery. But at the end of the match he just let his emotions and the moment get the better of him. For Federer, after his tight, almost lucky Friday night win over he pulled out another close one. He’s winning but living dangerously.

As for today’s final…

Roger Federer v. Andy Murray
There’s a lot riding on today’s final. Federer hasn’t won a title since Australia and has just one ATP-level title in the last 12 months – that being 2009 Cincinnati. Murray led the tour in titles a year ago with six but this year he’s been stuck at zero. But after a post-Australian “hangover” things are turning around for the Scot.

Of the two, Murray has been the better player on whole this week. He thumped David Nalbandian Friday and yesterday was looked dominant against Nadal. The key will be how Murray plays – and it is a big question mark. Will he go on the offensive like we’ve seen him the last two rounds or play passively which seems to be his MO against Federer – he leads Roger 6-5 but has last three straight.

I say he’ll try a mixture. Former coach Brad Gilbert talks openly of Murray’s stubbornness and I think today Andy will want to show the world that he can still damage Federer by playing a more passive, defensive style game. But I think he’ll want to be a little more offensive-minded than he’s been against Fed in the past.

For Federer, he needs to serve well and try to dominate from the baseline, especially if Murray’s in defensive mode. Federer came to the net a lot against Berdych, not so much against Novak last night and today I’ll expect him again to be careful and selective in his approaches with a great mover and passer like Murray on the other side of the net.

“Well, I mean, there was a time when — not to take anything away from Andy, but there was a time when I think I was coming back from mono,” Federer said of his rivalry with Murray (there’s that mono again). “I think we played in the first round of Dubai. I mean, I played okay under the circumstances, but first round to play Murray wasn’t a nice draw to get. Then I played him many times in a row when he had the momentum, really. I think he got me three or four times in a row. That’s his credit that he was able to do that, you know. It shows what a great player he is. But then sometimes you get unlucky how rivalries turn out to be, and then sometimes you get stuck behind in the head-to-heads, you know, because you maybe didn’t play him on your favorite surface or on the perfect day for you but on the perfect day for the other guy. Yeah, I mean, he’s been very good at a very young age. I knew that the very first time I played him in Bangkok in the final that he was one who was going to fight for world No. 1 and for Grand Slam titles. That’s exactly what he’s been doing.”

Said Murray, “I’ve beaten him six times and lost five on the tour, so, you know, I feel confident if I play well that I can win against him. You know, just — I’m just gonna have to play good tennis like I did today and take my chances, play aggressive and not let him dictate the points. But he’s obviously a very tough guy to play against, because, you know, he’s got one of the best records ever in the game, but, you know, I think if I play like I did today I’ll give myself a chance of winning.”

If this were a Grand Slam final – Murray’s yet to win a set in one (nor has the Scot won a set against Roger in three finals) – I’d pick Federer. But I like the attitude Murray’s shown this week and maybe this is a sign of things to come. Federer’s still making a lot of errors (was is 2-1 errors to winners last night?) and while I like Annacone’s presence, I think Murray’s hungrier and more ready of the two for this one. Can Murray beat Rafa and Roger within 24 hours? I think so.
My pick: Murray in two

The good news is we have great final today and the match will be televised at 3pm. The bad news – really, really bad news for my fellow American readers – is that the match will be shown on tape delay!! The final starts at 1:30pm in Toronto, but because of Little League or contracts or something else, ESPN2 will not be on live today but on tape! I believe that’s also the case for the Maria Sharapova-Kim Clijsters Cincinnati final which airs after the men’s. Blah.

SUNDAY TORONTO SCHEDULE

CENTRE COURT start 1:30 pm
[4] A Murray (GBR) vs [3] R Federer (SUI)
J Benneteau (FRA) / M Llodra (FRA) vs [2] B Bryan (USA) / M Bryan (USA)


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383 Comments for Will it be Roger’s Cup? Murray Mashes Nadal, Faces Federer in Toronto Finale

puckbandit Says:

As a Murray fan, I find it very disappointing that Sean has called for a victory by the Scott today. We know how that usually works out.


sheila Says:

after watching federer against djokovic, i agree, he is living dangerously. was lucky w/berdych & djokovic & i don’t think roger will win a major that way. also agree that roger wasnt as aggressive as he was w/berdych. i hope annacone gives him constructive criticism so that he does play more aggressively against murray. my fantasy: roger wins toronto, cincinnati & uso. wouldn’t that b a mind blower. it seems in this last year, everytime federer goes up a break he then loses his serve. also he has so many break opportunities & doesnt convert? is it lack of confidence???? i want federer to win uso but i got a feeling nadal will take it. true murray won yesterday, but nadal will come back w/a vengeance. nobody can challenge him at the majors, not even roger. hope i’m wrong & federer sweeps the remaining tournaments hes in(i know im dreaming, but i need to hold on to something)


blank Says:

Thank you Sean!

You know what I am thanking you for :-)


Colin Says:

Sean, you seem to have got a bit confused over the word “nonplussed”.


Colin Says:

Sheila, nobody can challenge Nadal at the majors? So how come Murray beat him in that USO semi? Please don’t say Rafa wasn’t at his best then, because he isn’t now!


puckbandit Says:

@Collin

Sean was nonplussed by the word nonplussed


puckbandit Says:

I think he just missed the work “not” – a typo really


funches Says:

Federer matches up well with Murray despite their career head-to-head.

I’m not sure who will win, but Federer can overpower Murray in a way he can’t overpower Djokovic or Berdych. Although Murray has been more aggressive this week, he does not have the consistent weight of shot that those guys do.

The match is in Federer’s hands.


Sean Randall Says:

puckbandit, be warned I may change my pick! There’s “weather” in the Toronto area.

From the “Tennis Twitter” link on the left: “Brad Gilbert: the weather is very gloomey today hope we get the tennis in.”

Colin/puck, yup. I’m nonplussed about it.

non·plussed/nänˈpləst/Adjective
1. (of a person) Surprised and confused so much that they are unsure how to react.
2. (of a person) Unperturbed.

nonplussed = unperturbed = calm. And I’d say Murray was calm after Rafa broke back.

Funches, agree. But Roger needs to “86″ the errors.


blank Says:

Sean,

I live not too far from the stadium here. The weather looks pretty decent right now. Sun is starting to take more peeks out and it’s not so cloudy. Yesterday, they had dire forecast of thunderstorms etc, but haven’t had any of that so far.


grendel Says:

Federer on Murray:

“I think he got me three or four times in a row. That’s his credit that he was able to do that, you know. It shows what a great player he is.”

Now that’s exactly the sort of comment which makes people think of Federer as swollenheaded. Zola, are you reading?

But say somebody else had said that? That for so-and-so to beat Federer 3 or 4 times in a row shows what a great player so-and-so is? No one would argue. So why shouldn’t Federer say it – he is not, after all, drawing reference to himself, he is making an objective comment about Murray. But it sounds funny to us because it entails a recognition of his own greatness – bad manners to the Anglo-Saxon mind.

However, there is one bit of mild duplicity, I think. That “3 or 4″ straight losses to Murray. I’ll bet you Federer knows very well it is 4 – and was damn nearly 6, in fact. But by saying 3 or 4, this casts a very subtle slight on the achievement.

I think this sort of tiny evasion is very common, and most of us I daresay practice it from time to time. But that doesn’t mean to say you shouldn’t point it out when Federer does it.


BlackCat Says:

ESPN360.com not going to show this final battle ???
If not then I will be devastated. Could someone please suggest mew where will I be able to watch it live ???


jane Says:

BlackCat (still like your name) – try this

http://atdhe.net/

or this

http://www.fromsport.com/c-4.html

Cheers!


jane Says:

For Canadians the match is on live on CBC, in case you don’t already know.

BlackCat, I posted some links for you but they’re in the moderation queue for some reason: try atdhe.net and/or fromsport.com


BlackCat Says:

Thanks Jane.
I still dont get why they are not showing the final when they showed the semis yesterday.


thark Says:

USAGE In standard use, nonplussed means ‘surprised and confused’: : the hostility of the new neighbor’s refusal left Mrs. Walker nonplussed. In North American English, a new use has developed in recent years, meaning ‘unperturbed’—more or less the opposite of its traditional meaning: : hoping to disguise his confusion, he tried to appear nonplussed . This new use probably arose on the assumption that non- was the normal negative prefix and must therefore have a negative meaning. Although the use is common, it is not yet considered standard. The preferred spelling is nonplussed.


Seth Says:

Fed’s been making a habit of blowing large leads. It happens occasionally to everyone, but he’s damn near got a streak going with it. Puzzling, as he used to absolutely slam the door 9 times out of ten when he was up a break.


Kimmi Says:

jane – yesterday i went on TSN first to look for the matches. afterwards i realise it was on CBC.

few minutes now.

Goodluck – muzza
Goodluck – federer


margot Says:

jane, duro, sar and other nole fans: :( shame but jane your last post suggests you got many positives from the match. However, the really good news, is that your support will be undivided today!
grendel: if you are a fan of Andy or Novak I guess you are hoping to be pleased but expect to be disappointed! Whereas Raf and Rog fans, seem to think their man will win every time, and of course usually does!
super man: I’m gonna re-name you “super cruel man.” If you threatened me with watching the Isner-Mahut match, why I would tell everything I know and everything I don’t know probably. Just phone the CIA with your idea- you’ll make millions.
kimmi: you are allowed to cheer for Fed, but VERY quietly please, I don’t want to hear….:)
Puckbandit: oh no, not the terrible jinx..AAHH, now I’m just gonna whisper to you only, what I really hope Andy’ll do to Fed come closer.. pssssst :) :)
But which Andy will turn up today..nervous twich .. the one with the super serve and the magnificent bh or the rabbit in the headlights..


jane Says:

margot – nervous… this match is so 50/50 I don’t know what to think. I want Andy M to defend his title, win his first title of the year and get a much needed confidence boost. Moreover, he’d even up his H2H with Roger at 6 All. A lot on the line then. Let’s hope Andy’s shots are too.


madmax Says:

grendel,

fed can’t win when he compliments a player, or when he doesn’t give them enough. He was very complimentary about murray – and everyone and his wife knows that federer, at the very least, is a GREAT player. The Greatest player!

Hoping for another great match tonight. I think it was twocents who said this was a win-win situation. Fed is now no.2, he has reached his second hard court final this year. Andy is playing brilliantly.

They are both hungry. Let the games begin!

Nerves are setting in!

Good luck to all fans today.


margot Says:

jane: I’m doing a madmax! I feel sick!


Kevin Kane Says:

Today is one of those rare moments as a tennis fan when it’s a blessing to live in Canada. CBC is showing the final live! O’ Canada!


jane Says:

Kevin, my sentiments exactly – for once!!

margot, as Duro would say “I a throwing up a little.” : /


margot Says:

And here they come!


Nina Says:

I’m sad for Novak, this was a tough loss. He was nervous in the first set, it was the first time he played against a top 5 in a long time and that showed. But he came back impressively hitting some amazing winners, he was ruling all the points from the baseline and outplaying Roger in the rallies. Roger deserved to win this match in two sets but he got tight, and Novak deserved to win this match after his superior effort and brilliant shotmaking. Both players needed the victory pretty bad.


grendel Says:

margot
“if you are a fan of Andy or Novak I guess you are hoping to be pleased but expect to be disappointed! Whereas Raf and Rog fans, seem to think their man will win every time, and of course usually does”

Sadly, no longer true for Rog fans. I confidently expect Murray to win, but you never know, depends which Murray turns up. You might say which Fed turns up? No, for the time being, Federer’s fate has been determined by how consistently his opponent plays. Maybe that is the fate of the old….


Nina Says:

Forgot to say… Go Andy!


madmax Says:

I’m not sure where our American friends are grendel? But hopefully they will be here too?!

Margot, you around?


margot Says:

Rain!! AAhh!
grendel: perhaps Andy should have “only 23″ on his T shirt?


Kimmi Says:

margot: *whispering* very quiet today, very quiet :)

let the best man win.


Sean Randall Says:

ESPN3.com doesn’t seem to load. I don’t even know if they are showing it.

Fromsport does work. Unfortunately a couple rain drops are coming down ATM. Doesn’t look/sound serious.


jane Says:

Nina, I am sad sad sad too, but I am trying to take the positives. One of the things that Nole said is some consolation:

“So to be able to be in the position to win this match with the performance that I don’t think it’s good enough, it’s okay, it’s fine. It’s a little bit frustrating that I haven’t used the opportunity I had in the end, but he was realistically a better player today.”

——————

NO – RAIN GO AWAY!


Kevin Kane Says:

Murray is the odds-maker’s favorite (about 1.85 to 2.16). The overcast conditions will slow the pace of the balls, though I’m unsure which player will benefit from that?


Yan Says:

HELP! Where can you watch this online? espn3.com seems to be down! anyone?


Sean Randall Says:

Woops. The players are heading back to the locker room! I guess the rain is serious.


margot Says:

And off they go :(
Kimmi: luv yer :)


Kimmi Says:

why the rain..there is no rain where i live. c’mon rain..go away!


BlackCat Says:

oops..its on espn360.com too..
great.

Federer the great.


jane Says:

Isn’t atdhe.net working? Anyhow there’s a wee rain delay. The commentators say it won’t be long but how the heck would they know, lol.


Kevin Kane Says:

“Woops. The players are heading back to the locker room! I guess the rain is serious.” To hell with you Yankees and your tape delays! I demand my tennis NOW!


margot Says:

Hi madmax!


madmax Says:

grendel,

i will always believe in Federer. I have been really pleased, despite what others (commentators) have said about him and the way that he has played this week.

He has done better in this tournament this year than last year, so it is a win win for him, in terms of how his game is progressing (work in progress with Annacone) and the fact he is STILL motivated and at least twice these last two games, he is trying include other things in his game, and he has been doing things which are clearly influenced by Annacone. Plus, he has got himself out of two tight matches and pulled through them. Earlier on this year, that was not the case (baggy, berdych, gulbis).

So, I am just hoping that he can hold on in this match, dig in, and come out with the win.

Yeah, I agree it is more nerve wracking, but it’s still great to see him play!


blank Says:

It doesn’t look serious from where I am and the sun is out here. The players should be back in 10-20 mins.


Sean Randall Says:

On the “bright” side if it stays rainy and wet for another hour US fans will be able watch it live on ESPN2!


Kevin Kane Says:

The U.S. Open solicited the Canadian Open organizers for advice on drying courts, according to commentator Peter Burwash. Apparently the Canadian Open has the fastest machines and methods for drying courts.


madmax Says:

Margot! Just seen you! Hi! (ditto what kimmi said). Really looking forward to this match. Butterflies in stomach.

C’MOON THE FED!


madmax Says:

here the boys are!


margot Says:

hi blank: Cilic was clutching his stomach in the last match, could’ve been anything but he has a disappointing year, hasn’t he? I ckecked USOpen tickets a couple of years ago and thought the tickets were horrendously expensive.
Ah, back on.


jane Says:

Burwash also just said he’s “still surprised” to see Fed in the finals based on the QF and SF he played, just squeaking through both times. grendel, perhaps you should call him Fantastic Mr. Fox?

I think foxes eat falcons; maybe Nole best take those wings off his back.

Foxes do have enemies; I checked: they are dogs, coyotes, wolves, bobcats, and, of course, humans.


jane Says:

Burwash also just said he’s “still surprised” to see Fed in the finals based on the QF and SF he played, just squeaking through both times. grendel, perhaps you should call him Fantastic Mr. Fox?

I think foxes eat falcons; maybe Nole best take those wings off his back.

Foxes do have enemies; I checked: they are dogs, coyotes, wolves, bobcats, and, of course, humans.


Kevin Kane Says:

The players have returned to court!

I am sympathetic for American fans. For Canadian fans this a refreshing change from “tennis coverage will continue for our American audiences, while our Canadian viewers can stay tuned for the curling championships!”


Ike Says:

“Will it be Roger’s Cup? …NO!!!
Rogers cup will be Andy’s!


jane Says:

Why twice? I hate when that happens; anyhow, not sure why but sorry for the double post.

Fed likes to wear his collar up like Elvis. ; )


Kevin Kane Says:

Who are the commentators heard by American viewers for this match? Do you hear Burwash?


Ike Says:

Here we go….


Ike Says:

It’s ok Jane…


Kevin Kane Says:

Jane, did you get a double post from clicking “Submit” twice, or from clicking refresh? (This page automatically refreshes for me after I submit a comment.)


Kimmi Says:

Kevin kane – i think burwash is only for canada. i could be wrong though


Ike Says:

What a FH winner from Andy


jane Says:

Fed to serve. Murray’s serve is key today; he needs to serve like against Rafa.

No repeat champions at Roger’s Cup since 1994-95 when Agassi won back to backs. Maybe Murray can change that today.

Strong start from Andy! His defense is wonderful to behold. He always makes it look easy to me.


Ike Says:

Gr8 start Andy….


madmax Says:

First serve Roge. Looks tired.


Kimmi Says:

early break! great start from muzz


blank Says:

Hi margot! Cilic has had a disappointing year. Hope he lives up to his potential soon. Trust me, tickets here are expensive too. But the difference is, if you get the cheaper way-up tickets at the USO, you will be sitting on the moon and watching the match.

Murray playing well. Good luck to you and your guy!


margot Says:

Wow! Andy’s striking the ball very, very well.
Hi Ike: hope that crystal ball is working just fine!


Kevin Kane Says:

Do Canadians have a reputation for being conservative and reserved compared to our more outgoing and boisterous neighbors to the south? Because our Torontonian tennis fans are energetic and outspoken! Great ambiance at the Rogers Cup!

Match summary thus far: Welcome to the Andy Murray show.


Yan Says:

CRAP! Where can you watch this on the web? I can’t find a single place! :(((((((((((


Ike Says:

Andy’s FH is firing


jane Says:

Andy M!! Way to go… this may be the beginning of big things for him. Okay, okay, maybe getting ahead of myself, but something is different. No coach? What?


Kimmi Says:

muzza is on a roll…wow and wow


Ike Says:

Hi Margot,
looks like that crystal ball is working just fine!


Ike Says:

it’s worth it!


Kimmi Says:

yan – jane posted some links above. check them out


Ike Says:

one more break!!!


Kimmi Says:

2 breaks. is this for real. muzza..muzza…


Ike Says:

Btw, it’s not just Roger not playing well, Andy is playing excellent!!!


Kevin Kane Says:

The match’s start reminds me of the Federer vs. Hewitt US Open final in 2004 – but in reverse.

Murray’s aggression is just overpowering.


margot Says:

jane shhhh..for now…


madmax Says:

kimmi,

roger looking tired to me. that’s okay. he has done well to get to final. i am not going to be unhappy if murray wins this though of course, would love roger to win. and you can’t win ‘em all.

As long as roger is able to perhaps get on the scoreboard? would be nice, eh roge?

Andy is well-rested, got through in straights, roger has been tested and fed fatigue is there, I can see it.

I just hope that Fed will recover well, for cincinnati and USOPen.

C’moon Fed! First serve in buddy!


jane Says:

Okay margot, will try to rein it in. : )
He needs to keep those serve firing. Go Andy…


Ike Says:

Jane, Margot, Kimmi and all Murray fans, two questions for you:
How many GrandSlams will Andy win by end of his career?
….my guess is 6
How many US Opens will Andy win by end of his career?
….my guess is 3


jane Says:

Ah, Fed takes one back. But Andy has insurance.


Yan Says:

Ah found it, thanks Ike, Jane, and Kimmi! Now I am content. :)


Kevin Kane Says:

Very charitable of Murray to throw a game to the old man.


Ike Says:

Great serve return from Andy


jane Says:

So much hinges on the serves … of both of them.


madmax Says:

c,mon fed, this is better.

well done! game on!


margot Says:

Hang on Andy, hang on! Focus!


Ike Says:

Robbie Koenig & Jason Goodall are the best tennis commentators in the world!
I wish they had achieved more success when they were players…


madmax Says:

Focus Fed! Murray is on fire right now. Fed won’t give up without a fight though!


Ike Says:

great hold Andy!


Kevin Kane Says:

What a delusion that the US Open series motivates the top players to play more summer events – like Federer is going to risk exhausting himself ahead of the US Open for the chance to win an extra few hundred thousand, when he earned about $58 million in endorsements last year.


madmax Says:

KK,

Fed will get a few days off, and now that he is no.2, am not so sure he will be happy with a QF showing at cinny, and then take a good 10 days off prior to the open. His game is there, or thereabouts.

He is looking tired to me right now and as Ike said earlier, or was it Sean? Murray is looking the hungrier.

As a federer fan, I feel pretty cool about the outcome.

Federer knows his body best. And I don’t really think he is concerned about the money right now!


margot Says:

Ike: I’ll talk to you about slam totals if and only if Andy should win this.


madmax Says:

*am not so sure he will be unhappy with a QF showing at Cinny*


jane Says:

It’s so crucial that Andy hold here!!!!


Ike Says:

What a BH that was from Andy!


Ike Says:

What a down the line BH that was from Andy!


madmax Says:

It was brilliant Ike, you’re right.


jane Says:

Phew, good hold Andy M.

Fed about Nole:

“You know, he’s a good sport and we enjoy the tough rivalries. I think we’re to some degree thankful that the other guys is around, too. Sometimes, of course, we wish that they weren’t there so the road maybe to victory would be a bit easier, but at the same time, it’s great playing against such good, quality players.”


Ike Says:

come on margot
be optimist…just remember the numbers….in 2016 he will have those numbers


margot Says:

Andy’s back hand is on fire, serve pants! Come on!


Ike Says:

what a rally that was


madmax Says:

Great rally by both murray and fed.

Margot, you should be proud of your boy. He is playing much better and is much more aggressive than fed today!

C’moon Fed though. Try to regroup. Would be great if you could take the first set, but is that going to expend too much energy at this stage?

why not go for it anyway?!!!!!!!


margot Says:

Ike: I’ll relax when he’s won that first damn slam!


madmax Says:

nice post Jane.

Way to go fed!


jane Says:

margot, is it so very difficult … ? : )

HOLD ANDY!


madmax Says:

Margot,

Andy is definitely going to win a slam! c’mon! He is a brilliant player and is a player of multi slams for the future – how could he not be?

He just needs to grow into that role, and he will!


Ike Says:

Oh no………


madmax Says:

c’mon Fed!

I didn’t expect this! Finding his rhythm a bit more. Staying calm and patient with the furious play of murray.


Sean Randall Says:

Oh boy, Murray gags double faulting the break back to Fed while serving for the set. Hilarious.


jane Says:

oh NO! margot, what the??? The announcer said the sun came out just as Murray was serving, and because his serve is “toss dependent” his timing went off and the double fault. : ( : (

He kind of got nervous too perchance? UHHHH!

You were exactly right what you said to grendel earlier.


madmax Says:

Fed that was a bad, bad, forehand into the net!

tut!


madmax Says:

now hold fed. just hold. First serve looking tired today.

kimmi, any other fed fans? are you there? am on my own against Margot/Jane! :)


madmax Says:

Fed, that forehand is just tired! Ug ugh!


Ike Says:

Great job Andy, now serve it out…..


madmax Says:

fed is off today.

he seems grumpy. federer. federer. please – come on!


jane Says:

Breaks right back!! NOW HOLD Andy!!!

Good tennis…


Kimmi Says:

break right back…hmmmm!

murray needs to win this set now..


Sean Randall Says:

Baffling stuff from both guys, especially Federer in that last game to give Murray a third break.


margot Says:

WTF! Andy kindly gives Fed a game and then Fed returns the favour!


Ike Says:

my GF wants to go grocery shopping….now! says enough of tennis….
Jesus…what’s wrong with her?
Ladies please do tell how do i convince her?


madmax Says:

don’t worry Ike. I think this is Andy’s set. And I mean that seriously. Fed is just off today. It happens.

He would NEVER make those mistakes in the past.


blank Says:

Well, just like Fed deserved to win the match yesterday, Murray deserves to win this set now.


Kimmi Says:

i am hear maxi – federer is breaking down…

muzza set this is..methinks


Kevin Kane Says:

Fed is pressing to end rallies surprisingly quickly. Whether he’s doing that to abate fatigue, or because he concedes that Murray will win the majority of rallies, I’m not sure. Maybe both.


madmax Says:

Dump her Ike!

If you going out with someone who doesn’t enjoy tennis – well – sure road to nothing! :))))))


jane Says:

Could someone sell Andy M some first serves please? Down to 52%

Brain cramp on the dropper.


jane Says:

Ike, does she think either of them are hot, Fed or Murray? Alternately, offer a foot or back rub.


madmax Says:

set point. argh, oh well. had to happen.


jane Says:

Yes, set one in the bag!


Kimmi Says:

muzza takes the set…way to go muzza.

now set two.


margot Says:

Phew! jane r we breathing a little more normally?


madmax Says:

well, Ike, I’d go do some grocery shopping now.

I hope fed can regroup for either the second set. Feeling surprisingly calm about this match kimmi.

Have enjoyed all the matches so far and am pleased fed has got back to No.2.

Wished he had another day to rest up. but not to be. so got to make the best of this match.


Ike Says:

thanks for the advice Jane.
but she is still pissed…..


jane Says:

Kevin – “he concedes that Murray will win the majority of rallies” – Nole was winning the majority of longer rallies last night. I think Fed needs to keep points shorter this day, and presumably Anacone is a good person to help him with this.


zinaldo Says:

Mentally federer is done,he just never seems to be able to concentrate for 2 games in a row and when his serve is off the whole of his game just goes bad because his ground game is really not even top 10 now days.

To me i think players know that mentally that he doesn’t have it anymore and also his weaknesses are more out in the open now and that must be frustrating for roger because the brain says to one thing but the body doesn’t follow up or vice versa.


jane Says:

“this day” should be “these days” @ 2:44.

margot, phew and phew!! Can now drink more coffee without risking palpitations.

Ike, too bad. : ( You shoulda picked a tennis obsessed one. : )


margot Says:

Andy’s serve v. v. poor, good job he’s such a gr8 returner.


Ike Says:

hey madmax
(none of my business, but just curious) where u located? r u Swiss?


contador Says:

i am not the one to ask!! i don’t give relationship advice other than try to talk her into how great tennis is. tickle her, make her laugh, do something….

….short of tying her up in a basement like super man does to his gf’s!

lolzzz

all i have is a lousy live stream. i just got home. maybe espn2 is airing the match tape delayed. as if i want to watch the last points of that 1st set again.


madmax Says:

zinaldo, nice to see you here!

Fed may be mentally “done” today, but long-term. Don’t worry. He’ll regroup like he always does, (probably to your annoyance).

Come on Fed!


Ike Says:

it’s ok Jane,
I finally convinced her (but will have to with her for other shopping too)…oh well..


Kimmi Says:

on the forst set

murray 13 winners
federer 7 winners

murray is playing aggressive. dont call him a defensive player. he is not.


jane Says:

zinaldo, I think you’re right about Fed’s serve; things go much more smoothly for him when it’s clicking. But that’s the case for most players. I don’t think Fed is mentally weak or anything, as his wins of Berdych and Nole have proven; he hung in there through some crazy momentum swings both times, and he won. Finally, I think his ground game is still top ten level without a doubt, but it’s definitely not as consistently excellent as it used to be; his forehand can go off and then the shanks creep in.

margot, Murray is down to 46% first serves for the match, with 4 doubles and 2 aces. He definitely served better versus Rafa!!!


Ike Says:

hey contador
thanx for the advice but whenever i try to tell her how great tennis is, she gets more pissed…she thinks that i think she doesn’t understand tennis…blah blah blah…


Kimmi Says:

madmax- i am very clam. maybe because of the soft spot i have for muzz.

I am just enjoying it..and hope for the best man win. right now, it looks like muzz is the best man.

but set 2 is starting from the scratch..anything can happen.


zinaldo Says:

Federer changing tactics now as he knows he can’t beat murray from the baseline so he is going to try and change things up with the drop shots.


Ike Says:

kimmi agree with u re. winners / errors
but Fed fans will never admit that. they will keep saying “it’s Fed who is making too many errors, Fed is tired and so on.”


contador Says:

hahaha fed is practicing that drop shot.

i imagine there are a lot of player that wish they were as “mentally done” as federer. : )


super man Says:

ike,

look for my post on the other blog on how to handle ladies not interested in tennis.

madmax,

i am a super fed fan too. but murray is a double handed passive version of fed, so he is my 2nd fave.


margot Says:

Fed’s playing better and serving a whole lot better than Andy. Andy stay calm, like kimmi, stay focused and you can do it!
Rain again??


jane Says:

It looks like they will pause to see where this bit of rain is going – i.e., into a shower, or away with the clouds. A rain delay could be trouble for someone. Just don’t know who.


zinaldo Says:

Madmax.

Today it has been what has let him down the most against rafa but also mostly in all of his losses because soon as someone stands up to him he loses almost all the time.

His game is great but his mental toughness has never been the case that is why nadal to me no matter how poor on form whenever they play will always have a chance of beating him whereas you can’t say the same about roger but maybe if they played in shanghai.


margot Says:

And who will this rain break help, the twitchy kid or the praeternaturally calm old man?


jane Says:

Clijsters vs Sharapova begins imminently, so if there’s a rain delay could always flip to that. Or go outside and play.


Kimmi Says:

margot – lol. yes, i am very calm


Ike Says:

tennis trivia….no player has won exactly five grandslams in their career, (Laver and Newcomb won five in Open era but there “total” is 11 and 7)

reference: of course Wikipedia…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Grand_Slam_men%27s_singles_champions


Kimmi Says:

jane – i will go tune up on maria vs kim, on my tennistv. i think it will be a good match.


margot Says:

Ike: Goodall,Adler and koenig are brilliant and you know, the best players don’t always make the best commentators.
PS They love the new Andy too. I think Adler would like to be his coach!


contador Says:

ike

i have had no luck trying to convince a bf to stay inside and watch tennis. too many other thinsgs to do here.

but, the bargaining a bribing has worked a time or two. i’d stick with that one.

go away rain!


Ike Says:

ladies…just curious..do you find women’s tennis interesting? most of the times I watch only the finals of women’s grand slams (may be semi-final here and there)…only female tennis player i have respect for is Justin Henin!
…hope u don’t think i m sexist.


super man Says:

zinaldo,

you know zilch about life sport and tennis, if you think federer is mentally weak.

he is in the hewitt, nadal and agassi league of mentally tough players this decade.

you are either a fed hater or a fed worshipper who is trying to live his life through federer. either way, just quit.


margot Says:

kimmi: Good! Stick your head out of the window and tell me what the weather’s doing!


margot Says:

super man: check my post at 1.25. I have career advice.


Ike Says:

margot,
i don’t why but i think Doug Adler is not in the same league as Koenig and Goodall…may be it’s the accent, we Americans think of American accent as “layman’s” accent while the Britsh accent is “godly”, South African / Australian accent is “exotic / interesting”


Ike Says:

contador thanx for the advice…


jane Says:

Kimmi I found it on fromsport but it wasn’t working on atdhe.
Sharpie has advantage on Clijsters’ first service game; we know Sharapova won’t give up easily. Make that deuce.


Ike Says:

btw margot
i think Murray should re-hire Gilbert, the best tactician / winning ugly coach in the world.


puckbandit Says:

What’s happening? Are they in rain delay? my on-line feed went dead and ESPN is on delay


super man Says:

margot :

haha! i will let cia, mi6 and mossad bid for this novel torture technique :)

we will split the cheque :)


blank Says:

margot, I live about 10 miles from the stadium and the weather is looking great here. So the match should start in no time I think.


Nina Says:

This is a crazy match… or should I say a crazy tournament? It shows the Top 4 are not in their best moment (perhaps with the exception of Nadal depsite his loss against Murray). The top 4 are playing patches of brilliant and patches of very bad. Murray could have sentenced the first set long time before he did, Roger was playing atrociously. The first three games were a superb display of Murray’s talent but he got tight against Roger and he let Fed get back into the match. Now it’s pretty open, but I still bet for Andy, Roger doesn’t look good today, something’s up with him, physically and psychologically. Did you see he went to the locker room and wetted his hair? maybe he feels nauseated.

@Jane… I’m confident old Novak will come back, he’s showing strong signs of improvement in the past month. In this tournament I’ve seen some of the brilliant shot making that remind me of his best period circa 2007/2008. With time he will get to his best level and then he will be a big challenge again for everyone. I’m sure glory days are ahead for him, he’s put so much hard work and persistence, he deserves better.


jane Says:

Sharapova has a serve again, or a.t.m. anyhow. 1 All.


jane Says:

Oh Nina – I love your optimism about Nole; will try to have it rub off on me. But yes, I have seen glimmers of “Old Nole.” Versus Hanescu, Chardy and Fed, his groundstrokes, in patches, we breath-takingly accurate and powerful. Was LOVING it!! And his serve is slowly returning. I hope he’ll win another couple slams. I don’t care when or where or against whom.

Similarly it is high time for Andy M to win one! He just has to press. He can do it.


Ike Says:

ladies here is an article to pass time…
http://www.projo.com/lifebeat/markpatinkin/Mark25_07-25-10_8BJ7029_v13.4a0abd0.html

interestingly, my gf found it ‘interesting’


dari Says:

hello, everyone. whats the detailed haps on the second rain delay? anybody near toronto?


margot Says:

blank: thanx 4 weather update, am a bit nervous as it was in middle of Andy’s serve, will they warm up now.
ike: read a bit about BG and Andy’s realationship, it was stormy! Andy was tempestuous kid, bg bit of a law lord. Still remember Andy mouthing “You t–t.” at him on court. Apparently LTA made them share a bedroom!
However, Andy is grown up now.
super-cruel-man: look 4ward to cheque. Can feel myself blabbering at very thought.


Ike Says:

@ blank
thanks for the weather update


Ike Says:

can’t wait to c Andy lifting that trophy today…


dari Says:

oh its looking more sunny and maybe they’re drying the courts again! i do like that about the live streaming, they keep the camera on the court during delays and changeovers a lot!
well, i wish the best to federer. i was playing tennis till two and promised myself i would just wait for the 3 oclock espn on tv, but checked the score and had to put on the live stream. now its back to espn on tv to catch the first set i missed!
it seems like its at least a good thing fed came back to 5-7 from 0-3.
best of luck in the second set, rog!


Ike Says:

@ margot
if Agassi calls someone “greatest tennis coach ever” then there must be at least some truth in that…i think Gilbert & Murray combination might work, but i don’t think Murray will re-hire him


blank Says:

Ok guys. The weather may not be that great. My balcony faces the lake, to the south – it was and still is sunny there. The stadium is over at the North side. Looks like there are some dark clouds coming from behind now over to this end as well.


Ike Says:

how about Darren Cahill coaching Andy?


margot Says:

blank: Oh poo.


Ike Says:

@ blank
weather…oh well…


puckbandit Says:

The online stream I found has Doug Adler commenting? What station is this?


margot Says:

Ike: that’s a no, no. Cahill doesn’t want to travel.
Andy’s suddenly playing so much better, I think there must’ve been a lot of tension in the camp and I don’t think he’ll rush anything. Nor does it seem especially necessary at the mo.
BTW I watch women’s tennis a the slams but not otherwise.


jane Says:

Burwash thinks Cahill may not want to give up his cushy ESPN job and Adidas side thingy to become Murray’s coach; Cahill has two young children so doesn’t want to travel a lot. But if Murray just wants a part-time advisor for slams and MS, maybe Cahill would do it. Haven’t heard much.


jane Says:

Sharpie just broke Clijsters. 3-2 Sharpie to serve.


puckbandit Says:

Cahil said yesterday that he has not had any discussions with Murray regarding a coaching and/or advising position.

Mentioned that as an Addidas coach, Murray is free to call him upon him in that capacity at any time.


blank Says:

Ok…good news. Sun is out and the players are out.


Ike Says:

i hope the match doesn’t restart in half an hour or so…i told my gf that i had change of heart and i wud like to go grocery shopping with her now…enough of tennis…
i will be back in about half an hour or so :)


madmax Says:

dum de dum de dum.

Now showing young murray (baseball cap) v nole at cinny 2008. – who knows when the rain will stop!

Kimmi, calm is the word. Think that today is not Fed’s day. and that’s fine. just want him to rest up. He seems grumpy to me today. No excuses. It happens.

superman, it’s obvious zinaldo is a fed hater (as you said), there are plenty of them, but just try to ignore.

Zinaldo, I don’t agree with you regarding Fed’s mental state. He has got to be one of the strongest “mentalists” out there! If he wasn’t strong, how do you explain the last two three setters against berdych and djoko? Luck? I dont think so. you make your own luck in this world and you make it happen. Fed made it happen.

And as for rafa/fed mentality. Well last time they faced each other in a final, (this year), rafa won in madrid, and fed beat him the previous year – to over come some of those mental demons – I am happy with where fed is at, at the moment. His most recent demon – berdych – he managed to overcome and that was important for him to reclaim some revenge. Fed is strong, despite what you want to believe.

I hope that fed can group in this rain break? May be Mirka is in locker room having a few words? Or fed is just planning his next move?

Good news. I think game back on!


Ike Says:

oh no, match is going to restart in a minute….what the heck…i guess i will bite the bullet and go grocery shopping


jane Says:

Warming up now!! Hurrah!

Ike, set your recorder.


blank Says:

Ike, hope we get 3 sets and you don’t miss much :-)


margot Says:

Let’s hope Andy comes out like a cheetah and not a wee dormouse..


jane Says:

Bobcat margot; bobcats are enemies of foxes. ; )


jane Says:

Ugh – rain/wind. Sitting at chairs again. SIGH!!

Sharapova serving for set one over Clijsters: 5-2.


margot Says:

Good Andy must’ve been practising his serve in interval. What more rain.
jane: thanks for info on American wildlife ;)


jane Says:

Wow Sharapova is looking strong. Meanwhile, men are watching the clouds …


blank Says:

Nice to see people still watch/follow women’s tennis. I hope they make it worthwile…but doubt it.


margot Says:

Lars has promised sunshine at 4.01! Nice to see players smiling at this! Umbrellas still up though.


margot Says:

Oh come on, we’ve got space probes going to the edge of the universe and here they’ve got folks mopping the court with towels!


jane Says:

Go Andy M! He breaks to get the ball rolling!


Kimmi Says:

ah muzza breaks..what a game by fed.

Is this going to be over soon…


jane Says:

An ace; then a double. Come on Andy. Fire that serve inside the lines. Lots of “Go Andy”s in the crowd today.


blank Says:

This is now Andy’s Cup.


jane Says:

Here comes the rain again … falling on my head like a memory …


margot Says:

More rain this is c–p folks. Fed looks thoroughly disconfibulated.


Kimmi Says:

another rain break

federer is too nervous with this rain delay. concentration all gone.

muzza needs to hang in there..few more games left now


margot Says:

I agree kimmi and he’s coming out serving better too.


Bruce Says:

Even a tired Federer without his A game and serve is still enough to stay relatively close to Murray.

Win or lose against Murray, Federer knows that he has the ability to beat all the top players at the US Open. His game is better in Toronto this year than it was last year, when he then went on to Cincinnati and played sublime tennis to massacre Murray and Djokovic.

Consider that Murray has the advantage of coming in today more rested (quick QF and SF matches), playing in the afternoon in previous matches, and playing a warm up hardcourt tournament (Los Angeles at end July, where he lost in a final, played 2 top 30 players and one No. 65 player).

Federer is playing his first afternoon match after two days of long night matches, he has much less recovery time since his previous match, this is his first tournameent after Wimbledon break, and having a new coach possibly has some disruptive impact.

Some perspectove from a Toronto newspaper:
“Federer is back!

Roger Federer is on again.

Not that he was ever actually off, but to hear his critics, the 2010 season was the beginning of the end for the 29-year-old Swiss tennis master.

You would have a tough time convincing Novak Djokovic, the No. 2 player in the world today, of that.

Djokovic became the latest victim of this “over-the-hill” tennis great in a match that began strictly as a one-man show but wound up being a three-set nailbiter.

It was Federer early and Federer late as the “old man” bested the 23-year-old Djokovic…

…the attacking Federer was back in play carrying the game to Djokovic who simply had no reply.

Through that 6-1 first set, which took all of 26 minutes, Djokovic looked like a guy who had his bags packed and ready for the next stop on the tour.

Federer, meanwhile, was putting on a clinic, the kind that had to make Scotland’s Andy Murray who was awaiting the winner, and undoubtedly watching the game on his hotel television, extremely nervous.

As good as Murray was in taking out Rafael Nadal in the earlier semifinal, Federer looked even better in dismantling Djokovic in that first set.

Djokovic, though, eventually did re-locate his game in the second set and when he did he was every bit as dominant as Federer had been in the first — at least temporarily…

Both players had their moments in the third set until Federer grabbed the ultimate advantage, breaking Djokovic at 6-5 for the match.

As the match ended, a smiling Djokovic approached the net and said something that made Federer laugh. “He told me that I should have won the match earlier … I was like, ‘Yeah, I kind of agreed,’ Federer said.

“You know, he’s a good sport and we enjoy the tough rivalries. I think we’re to some degree thankful that the other guys is around, too.”…

Make no mistake, though, Federer isn’t going anywhere win or lose this afternoon against Murray…

Nadal remains No. 1, but you can be sure Federer has that spot in his sights as well.”
http://www.torontosun.com/sports/othersports/2010/08/15/15028436.html


contador Says:

what was the score anybody? i can’t even find live score for murray federer match.


puckbandit Says:

I think that Toronto paper gave too much credit to Roger’s play in first set and not enough to Nole’s mess of a game. Roger played well, but didn’t have to play his best until the third, when both raised their games and had some truly inspired spells of tennis.


Sean Randall Says:

What are the Bryans doing? From the tennis twitter link (good during rain delays):

Bob Bryan: Rain delay. Murray up a set. Mike is learning Guns ‘n Roses guitar solos on YouTube and I’m playing Fruit Ninja while getting a foot massage
– August 15, 4:02 pm ET


contador Says:

hey. did they play on into the second set? the score?

atp website lives scores is a blank page.


margot Says:

puckbandit I agree, written by a federer fanatic and it seems to me Novak is too friendly with Fed. Also no mention of Andy’s coaching trials, very one sided.
conty 7-5, 3-2 to Andy I think! Seems so long ago sinve they played!!


Sean Randall Says:

For US fans ESPN2′s tape delay is moments from catching up. So let’s hope they can finish by 7pm!


contador Says:

thanks margot


blank Says:

Folks, they just showed a live shot. It is still raining and the court is now soaked. Even if the rain stops now, I think it will be at least an hour before they can start again.


Colin Says:

Funny that since Wimbledon installed the roof, they’ve scarcely had to use it. Rain is now affecting sport all over the world. Climate change, folks!
Federer looks peed off to me. Murray can win this scrappy match if he keeps his focus. He is managing to do so most of the time, so far.


jane Says:

Kimmi are you watching Sharapova v Clijsters? Sharpie looks to be back, a real potential USO contender at this rate. Mind you, no Serena but still. She is beating Kim convincingly thus far.

Lots of rain in TO, looks like it will be a lengthy delay. Good decision by Ike. ; ) Made gf happy and didn’t miss a swat.


dari Says:

hahaha, yes ike made the wise decision to accompany gf to the grocery store!
looks wet as heck, i’ll be playing tennis at 530, hope i don’t miss too much, might make recording!


jane Says:

puckbandit @ 4:20, yes, Fed was sharp but Nole couldn’t hit a line or stay inside them either. He was off / flat in the first set.

margot, yes, Nole is a “good sport” as Fed said. But maybe this hurts him. Mind you, everyone hated Nole when he was “cocky” now he’s criticized for being “too nice”. Ha! Can’t win. I think he is still maturing though and trying to find a happy balance. He may’ve been a good sport, but he fought hard to come back and try to pull out the win last night, and but for a few poorly timed bad points, he was very close.


margot Says:

This is a disaster folks cos it’ll soon be my bedtime!
If Scharapova didn’t screech so much she’d be in my top 5 favourite females, just love her fighting spirit and that nasty glint in her eye!


contador Says:

i would think the rain delay favors muzza.

i am changing a bunch of cincy picks KIMMI!

stop me!


puckbandit Says:

Yes ESPN is one game and 4 points shy of being in real time. they’re now cramming loads of commercials in and firing up a canned semi-final. Question is, will they show Rafa/Murray or Fed/Nole.
With Cahill and Gilbert in the booth, I bet Rafa/Murray.


dari Says:

margot, i agree with your thoughts on sharapova. i didn’t like her for a very long time, but now i do! when i play tennis and need to be tough, fight a break point, etc. i call on maria and rafael! when i wanna be aggressive, i say “be like roger!”


puckbandit Says:

Cahill saying Fed looks bothered by old back problem. Says he looks stiff and doing stretching that indicates back issue.

Hope not the case. even though I want Murray to win, a healthy Fed is best for game and everyonge


margot Says:

I know jane, damned if you do, damned if you don’t, but Andy doesn’t usually look so happy when he loses, especially to Fed ;)
R u watching on tv? If so have they indicated how long the rain break might be?


puckbandit Says:

ESPN now LIVE


puckbandit Says:

Oops, ESPN showing Gals in Cincy, still soaked in TO


jane Says:

Ladies, use the mute button. Seriously. I cannot get over how well Sharapova has played, so aggressive, deep powerful groundstokes, solid swinging volleys, good movement and defense.

But guess what? RAIN DELAY in Cincy too!!

Colin you’re right; the sun is blazing and nary a drop in sight … in Vancouver. LOL.


Sean Randall Says:

ESPN2 now live but no play – Murray up a break at 3-2.

They are going to tape of Maria-Kim.


Kimmi Says:

contador – second guessing is the killer of the bracket. dont change it. :)

can muzza win again in cincy

federer too tired or too nervous today

jane – following bits of kim vs maria. maria is killing kim..did not expect this. what is going on…


grendel Says:

jane and margot

in the rain break, they were talking about Murray’s serve and why it’s so inconsistent – as opposed to Rusedski’s, for instance, as Peter Fleming pointed out. Rusedski said there was far too much movement in Murray’s body as he launched himself into the serve (tho I’m sure he put it more technically than that). He thereby gains pace, but at the cost of consistency. If he could ground his body more, he’d lose maybe 5 to 8 miles an hour, but improve hugely on placement. And he would then, Rusedski opined, be virtually unbreakable. Marcus asked Rusedski then if he was available if Murray approached him. Rusedski (showing the teeth) responded: “I’m always available, but I don’t think he’ll call!”


margot Says:

grendel: sparks would fly and Rusedski would lose some teeth, oh wait a minute, that’s a good thing..
perhaps a coach can fix that serve?


grendel Says:

jane, “use the mute button” – not an option. It is important to hear the sounds of the ball on racket, on the ground, and also many like to listen to commentary. The noise made by women like Sharapova is unnecessary, though she’s by no means the worst. Azarenka is unbearable.


contador Says:

andy up a break.

not good news for federer either if his back is tweaked again already.

poor fed had to work hard to beat berdych and nole.


puckbandit Says:

Grendel,

thanks for that post, have often wondered why Murray isn’t better server. Whoever he gets as coach, needs to have answers for Murrays serve and his overall consistency.


jane Says:

grendel, of course, the teeth. But interesting thoughts. Surely if Murray could get his serve more consistent, he’d be SO difficult to beat, because of the rest of his game, including his returns. I find it somehow counter-intuituve that Murray is one of the worst at challenges and yet one of the best returners; don;t both depend on a good eye?

Burwash said interesting things about Nole’s serve too. How it’s a two-part motion (he pauses after the toss and loses momentum and power) which was a problem for Ashe until he fixed it.


puckbandit Says:

Hate the screeches of the women players – if they could at least bring it down and octave it might be bearable.


jane Says:

Well I agree; I don’t like to watch any tennis with the mute on. But it’s a shame to not be able to watch due to the screeching. Serena and Venus also both scream, and yeah Azarenka is high voltage.


contador Says:

kimmi-

i can’t help it : )

i have murray winning cincy. i’m okay with that, from how murray’s form looks but if federer has tweaked his back, he won’t make it to the final.

and no chance against rafa in the semi


jane Says:

Cincy sopping wet; stadium empty. I think there was only one game left too.


puckbandit Says:

Jane,

What was the score in Cincy at stoppage?


margot Says:

puckbandit: but I don’t like the huge grunting of some of the male players, if Fed, Andy virtually silent, why not the others? If I hammer a nail in somewhere, I neither screech nor grunt! I may of course swear..


puckbandit Says:

Margot,

I agree, some of the men are just as bad, and just as inconsistent with their need to grunt.

They have stats for everything. We need a stat for correlation between gurnts and points won. I bet they lose as many as they win.


blank Says:

Contador,

I changed my picks as well. Now picking Nadal to win against Murray.


dari Says:

geeze louise now my tennis is rained out. at least now i will get to see the toronto final :)


jane Says:

6-2, 5-3 deuce, Kim serving to stay in it – puckbandit


blank Says:

Federer grunts a teeny bit at times when he serves.


puckbandit Says:

Thanks, dicey time for a stop in play


Bruce Says:

puckbandit Says: “I think that Toronto paper gave too much credit to Roger’s play in first set and not enough to Nole’s mess of a game…”

Roger’s superior attacking play in the first set rushed and threw Djokovic off his rhythm for almost 10 games. Same thing happend to Berdych the night before. Same thing happened to both Murray and Djokovic at 2009 Cincinnati when Roger swarmed all over them in the first set. Same thing happened to Soderling at the 2009 French Open final. There are many other precedents of Federer doing this.

Any astute watcher of Federer knows that his basic strategy is to go after and break down his opponent’s strengths. Federer simply came out with guns blazing and showed that when his game is on his top opponents have no answer. The problem for Roger was maintaining his concentration deeper into the second set instead of going on walkabouts and letting his opponents back into the match. As Federer gets more practice over the next few weeks, he will be able to sustain his game for longer periods.

As for Nadal, he may have played well for 2.5 months in the clay season and Wimbledon. But it is quite possible he may go through another period without winning a hard court title (or few titles) until the next clay season. The time is right for Federer or another player to establish themselves as the dominant player for the remaining 4 months of the season.


Bruce Says:

Margot, I guess every writer that does not write what you want to hear is a “federer fanatic.” it is common knowledge that Djokovic is not genuinely friendly with Federer, and has been the most disrespectful of the top players in his comments about Federer. And what’s this about “Andy Murray’s coaching trials”? If Federer can win without a coach, aftyer firing Peter Lundgren and Tony Roche, whyt can’t Andy Murray?


jane Says:

Nole does when he serves and often in the points; same with Rafa. It doesn’t really bother. I find the screaming more grating on the nerves. I also don’t like how the screaming gets louder and louder the more dire the situation. But I’ll suck it up IF the tennis good. Everyone is different. Maybe some need to do it. I saw footage of when Nole was 5 or 7 or something on the court, and he had a mini -version-of -grunt even then. Suggests rather natural I’d think.

Anyhow looks like Andy and Roger may be back on soon!!


margot Says:

OMG has rain stopped at last? Off we go! Come on little bobcat.


contador Says:

i have noticed that serena and venus don’t need the grunting when they play each other. some grunting toward the end of their matches but nothing like when serena plays others.


jane Says:

Bruce, maybe back in the day, but Nole and Fed have a much warmer relationship now. It’s clear. And both of their comments reflect that. People change and mature, as do opinions and games. For sure Fed was sharp in set, and I don’t think anyone was denying that. But Nole was making way more unforced errors than normal as well. Some of those may’ve been forced, as you imply. But a player can come out flat just as one can come out blazing. I think we saw a bit of both last night. Fed has exhibited patches of brilliant attacking tennis.


jane Says:

Fed breaks back. Egads!


blank Says:

And holds serve!


contador Says:

blank-

nadal beating muzz? yeah i thought about it. i think nadal would like to do that before the us open. but ….

shirt change alert!


margot Says:

OOOh, Fed’s come out charging like a rhino! Come on Andy, calm, focus!


madmax Says:

BRUCE, GREAT POST 4.13!

Contador, please can I ask you politely :) not to voodoo fed’s back. There’s nothing wrong with his back. He is tired. We all know that, but at least he is trying.

Andy is on fire today and I agree with Ike he deserves the win. He has played fine today.

Federer is back though and for that, I am really pleased.


jane Says:

Phew, Murray holds. Lots of lets, his serve has very flat trajectory, seems to barely clear net.


contador Says:

i was confused. my ESPN2 is still showing tape delay coverage

now i have the livestream.

strong service game from murray. 4-4

trying to see that “stiffness” cahill was talking about


jane Says:

Fed’s stepping in, hitting the lines better. The delay has served him well.


blank Says:

Even at 5-4 Fed still looks pi**ed


margot Says:

Yes jane,Fed’s stepping up, Andy’s stepping down, we’re going to a third.


jane Says:

The chip backhand return from Fed just doesn’t seem to work as well anymore.


blank Says:

Fed this tournament has had better luck breaking than holding serve when he had to.


madmax Says:

margot, not so sure. Fed just netted a really easy forehand. That was a tired shot. He is trying to save all his energy right now jut to stay in the match – I’d love to see fed fight it out in a third – but i don’t know whether that will be a good thing or a bad – he must be knackered! Even Peter fleming and shiras are saying that fed is done in! Fleming has now changed his mind to say that the game is murray’s.

It’s just not fed’s day.


contador Says:

oh no fed


jane Says:

margot, you’re just like me; expect the worst, hope for the best. ;) Not yet, Andy says. Fed serving at 5 Al, love-30!

Burwash thinks it is Fed’s serve that has allowed him to get to the final day.


blank Says:

Federer just can’t hold the serve when he needs to.


jane Says:

Love-40.

Very true blank. Kind of goes against what Burwash says about Fed’s serving.


contador Says:

maybe i should have querrey taking out fed in the quarters


blank Says:

That was too big a hole he dug for himself


jane Says:

contador, lol ha ha ha. You’re always contemplating that bracket. Do you dream fantasy challenges?

HURRAH ANDY!!


Kimmi Says:

muzza muzza defending his title here…go get it muzz


madmax Says:

yeah go for it contador, like a true fed fan.


jane Says:

Where’s Ike? Hope he put it on record.


margot Says:

Now Andy steps up! OMG one serve away, my nerves


Sean Randall Says:

Great point from Murray to get the break for 6-5. His backhand crosser has been outstanding this weekend.

ESPN2 is still on tape from Maria v. Kim.

It’s been a tough day American tennis fans!


puckbandit Says:

Bruce<

I appreciate your point of view and comments, but stand by my opinion. Noles ratio of UE to winners proves it IMHO


madmax Says:

kimmi, i agree. Andy deserves it. Am really pleased that the british media will give him a bit more of an easier ride now. He’ll be the favourite to win everything now for the next 12 months!

At least fed got to the final and was able to take out both berdych and novak – quality players – in the process.

Fed needs a break now. (a rest). A tennis break might be cool too!


contador Says:

it’s a more pleasant thought than how i see federer holding er not holding his serve


jane Says:

Come on Murray – steady, calm, focus….


madmax Says:

contador you are so hard on federer.


jane Says:

30 All. Bad miss from Fed. Murray HOLD!!


contador Says:

federer donated that point


jane Says:

Very deep return from Fed. Break point. AAAAAHHHHH. Nerves shot.


madmax Says:

Federer is such a great champion. I dont care what anyone says about him. He’s quality.


contador Says:

huge ace from muzz to get to deuce


jane Says:

Ace#2!! Clutch serving!!


jane Says:

Ace#2!! Clutch serving!!


madmax Says:

Quality fed. Just quality.


jane Says:

Weak volley. Deuce # 2. But couple of great returns from Roger.


contador Says:

made a muck of match point

deuce again


jane Says:

Murray WOW! Go Championship point#2


contador Says:

but federer donates again

2nd match pt


jane Says:

YAY!!!! He did it in straights!! Great Scot! Has equalled Agassi’s two in a row. : )

Margooooooot!


Ike Says:

He has done it!


contador Says:

good for muzz…

i am leaving him in the cincy winner spot


blank Says:

Congrats Murray and all Murray fans – jane, margot etc.


jane Says:

Hugs for mum – awww whata sweetie.


Kimmi Says:

MUZZA – congrats to muzza.

sad for the fed :) always tough to watch a muzza-federer match up.

Muzza, go get the USO. go get your first grand slam this year.


madmax Says:

Margot, happy for you, Jane and for Ike. Can’t win ‘em all!

A great win by Andy.

Dont worry Fed. It’s time to move on and dont give yourself too hard a time.


Ike Says:

Cincy next week and US Open after that! Way to go Andy!


margot Says:

janeee: HOORAY!! I’m in tears!!


jane Says:

Thanks blank – great run for Fed, made it very tense until the last point and provided thrillers for us this tournament.


madmax Says:

Margot, you’re so sweet. I feel Andy should donate the trophy to you.


ron Says:

fed…on the way to 20 slams!!!!

bwahhhhhhh!


puckbandit Says:

Yeah!!!!!!!!!

Didn’t really think it would happen, even at both match points LOL!

Tough for Fed to put a string of solid tennis together and get a rhythm with all the rain delays. Murray having a set in the bag allowed him to relax a bit more than Fed.

Off to mom’s for homemade pizza as only a Jersey mom can make.

Will try to join in discussions during Cincy.


jane Says:

margot, if you still have champagne in your fridge, now’s the time. : ) I know, I feel all choked up. So nice to see him get a big win and first title since last November – long dry spell is over so bring on the hardware.


Skeezerweezer Says:

Congrats to Murray, Margot, Jane :). He deserved it. Knocking out Rafa and Fed to win a masters.


jane Says:

See ya puckbandit.


dari Says:

i’m ok with this. murray played great and he is my number two guy. rog got to the final after a rough couple of months. on to cincy, hope roger is not too disappointed!


jane Says:

Cheers all – off to get some sunshine, after all the rain we looked at on footage.

margot, Andy M’s biggest fan here, this is your day, so enjoy! : )


contador Says:

i like muzz. and this win is just what the psychiatrist ordered.

now if the british press tones it down a little. andy was by far the best in toronto.

see no reason he won’t go on to cincy and win.

us open too…


Skeezerweezer Says:

@madmax re: 5:28 post
:) Ditto


madmax Says:

ron, why do you delight in this? don’t worry about fed. he’s got 16 in the bag.

He’ll try to improve on that am 100% sure of that.


contador Says:

awww, that was sweet of muzza

“the greatest player that ever played” he says

now i am crying……

he just went up my list notches


Duro Says:

Margot, glad for you. Congrats. Kimmi, if you feel happy than congrats to you too. Jane, I know you do, but since Kimmi and you have two favorites let me congratulate Margot first.

Maxi, that’s sport… I yesterday, you today, someone else tomorrow. The show must go on! And it really does! Best tennis era ever!


zinaldo Says:

people can say whatever they want but roger federer for me is looking more and more like a has been,yes he will have his amazing moment from time to time but the consistency his gone but what i hate about him,is that seems to be arrogant about his demise.

What i mean by that is that someone else would be killing himself in training in trying to make sure that whatever he loses in physical attributes he can compensate with better stamina and working harder at making sure he can count on his forehand and not come on court looking like someone who hasn’t been practising much.

The lazy way he seems to get to his shots by not even wanting to move his feet so he would have more chance of making shots,i just hate that approach i am roger i can hit any shots and i don’t need to do anything but hit the shots.

Nadal is now the best player in the world not only in terms of play but in terms how hard he works on the court .

I am going to go out on a limb and say roger might never make another grand slam final because now days not only the players don’t fear but they actually believe they can beat even when he is playing very well because it now seems that he can just go off and that gives them a lot of confidence.

He was rubbish at the french,same for wimbledon where he should have lost in the first round and now he is struggling to even beat the djokovic,berdych and has now lost to murray who is said was too defensive.


blank Says:

Contador, I missed that :-(

Was it the trophy acceptance speech? What did they say?


madmax Says:

zinaldo. great post above. really insightful. In fact, it’s the best one here so far. Can’t be beaten. You are the best. Top ten.


dari Says:

please no one entertain zinaldo with a response.
Great job, murray! That’s pretty impressive to defend your masters title, beating nadal and fed back to back.
Keep working rog, you’ll get the next ones!


contador Says:

muzza looked at federer and called him

“the greatest player that ever played ” didn’t hear him say “tennis” but i pretty sure he meant it,

i can tell when someone is being phony. andy made me cry like delpo did last september..

always softens the blow when you like a guy who beats federer.

: ) definitely muzza in cincy


madmax Says:

HI Duro.

It’s fine. Really. Even federer couldn’t pull a houdini third time in a row! He played two quality bad ass players, berdych and novak, great matches, great players, great shots – a pleasure to watch.

Andy was ready for him today and he deserved to win Duro. He can’t win ‘em all as they say.

Hope you are okay today. They didn’t show the acceptance speech here, so am going to try and find this somewhere on the net, but no doubt sean will post it tomorrow or Tom Gainey with the video (pretty please Tom?).

Great to speak to you as always duro. I admire the fact that you support nole so much and you understand the passion I have for Federer. Just love the guy. Next year, we’ll all be together in Dubai or Serbia, God willing!


blank Says:

Contador – Cilic Vs Baggy @ 7pm today in Cincy!


madmax Says:

Dari, me too!

Hope you did well in your exams :)


contador Says:

blank-

it was sweet


dari Says:

i wonder if espn will get around so showing the rest of the match? i would like to see the ceremony.


blank Says:

Thanks Contador.

Brit press pressure would kill Andy if he heads to NY winning both Toronto and Cincy.


Dory Says:

This is the ultimate I have seen Murray play. He should continue to play this aggressive style and he will take the 2nd favorite spot behind RF for me. Nadal has got enough titles for the season. 3 more 1000s to go!! RF c’mon at least two.


Bruce Says:

Federer has shown that even when sluggish and without his A game, he was still Murray’s toughest opponent, relative to Nadal and Nalbandian. The match probably would have been another 15 to 20 mins longer had it been played at Nadal or Djokovic’s pace.

***********

puckbandit says: “Bruce, I appreciate your point of view and comments, but stand by my opinion. Noles ratio of UE to winners proves it IMHO.”.

Stats don’t always tell the real story, IMHO. But you are entitled to your opinion :)

**************

Jane, my point — in reply to Margot’s claim that Djokovic is too friendly with Federer — was that Djokovic is not genuinely friendly with Federer even if their relationship is much warmer now given they are on the Player’s Council and for PR reasons.

Whether or not Djokovic’s errors were forced or due to his being flat, my point is that brilliant attacking tennis sets the conditions to throw your opponent off his rhythm that both elicits forced errors and makes it harder for a flat player to get out of his funk. We have seen the same outcome in other matches when one player comes out with guns blazing. The problem with this strategy is when the attacking player takes his foot off the peddle, the other player may gain momentum as he has nothing to lose, might as well go down fighting.


contador Says:

whoaaaaa

blank! what do i so? i have friends coming over! and they intend to take me to dinner. my tennis addiction is just plain freakish …..gotta understand, i live in idaho : )

i am staying with bagdatis…..oh its tough though, my heart wants cilic


madmax Says:

Duro,

It is the best tennis era without a doubt – forgot to say –

Will be interesting to see what both murray and fed say in their interviews – and when murray went to his mum, that was so lovely, so sweet.

Hope that Annacone sticks around with Fed. Have a feeling if he lets him go, then Murray will snap him up!

Annacone has done brilliantly with fed this week at Toronto, given him an extra edge that has been missing since AO. I think that Federer has improved, despite losing in the final.

Go Annacone!


margot Says:

jane, kimmi, puckbandit YEEHAA! But thanks all you guys ‘n gals for all your good thoughts and wishes. Andy beat Nalby, Rafa and Fed on the way to this trophy and truly deserves it, but most of all he showed he has the heart of a champion. Shall end with Goodall “he brought the heat when it really mattered.”
22.55 here ‘night all, sweet tennis dreams.
PS Ike can now discuss number of slams..


blank Says:

Contador,

Enjoy the dinner. I doubt if we will find good streams for Cincy before tomorrow.

I hope Cilic wins too. For the challenge picks, I don’t always go with my heart. If that was the case I would pick Federer every time :-)


zinaldo Says:

He has improved in what way please because we have still seen the mental lapses,him not being able to break his opponents despite being given or getting number of opportunities.

Missing easy returns,hitting easy shots to the net,federer i would say isn’t going to be around for much longer because you can tell he isn’t enjoying it,it was easy being all smart and smiling when he was beating everyone but now he struggles almost anytime he sets foot on a tennis court.

He has won the australian open but maybe people weren’t as sharp as they could as it being the first slam of the year,rubbish at both french and wimbledon where his pigeons dismantled rather easily,the kinda of people that he used to humiliate are now so confident that they don’t go down on themselves even if he is on fire instead it is roger who loses it at the sight of a little hurdle.

People keep on saying he is going to come good at the slams but at the 2 slams he has been at the finals for the past years he never even made the semis so why are people saying he is going to get it together at the us open when he is clearly not playing well enough.


contador Says:

thanks blank-

i’ll go. a girl needs to eat. : )

as for the draw, i will have to leave it as is. i know the 1st rounds don’t have the weight but again, the page does not show the qualifier winners.

might have changed an early pick or two. no biggie

good luck and thanks for your tips.


grendel Says:

A deserved win for Murray, but I am reasonably hopeful for Federer for the Open. He actually played rather well in patches after rain break, and played brilliantly to nearly break back.

I understand why Zinaldo comes out with the “mental weakness” characterisation, I don’t think English is his first language, and I think some posters have been too harsh on him. Because there is, clearly, a mental weakness here. Time and again Federer has made inexplicable errors after playing outstandingly. Notably in the game he nearly broke back in, he manouevred Murray to just where he wanted him – and I doubt if any other player in the game could do that – and then failed with a relatively simple shot. That could well have meant the match. That is mental weakness, don’t let’s piddle around with words.

On the other hand – and Zinaldo has failed to give credit here – it took considerable mental strength to pull out the matches against Berdych and Djokovic (yes, there was weakness leading up to that too) and to nearly come back against Murray. I reckon over the next three weeks (including first week of the Open) Federer and his team will address this problem. No one will be more aware of it than them, and they won’t monkey around pretending it’s not something which requires attention.

So on balance, for Murray, the world is opening up. Can he take it by storm? For Federer, progress is tangible and reasonably satisfactory. I was inclined to count the old fellow out. Not now, I’m not – a decent outside bet to win the Open, with Murray and Nadal favourites, yes, but not by much.


andrea Says:

had to check on line who won the match. my pvr didn’t get the whole match what with the rain delays.

but you could tell from the first set that murray, if he kept up his game plan, was going to win. some very brain dead shots from fed. running around a back hand serve to hit a forehand and almost taking out the ump?

good for murray. he played great against nadal and you can bet that nadal is going to be breathing a sigh of relief if murray is in the other half of the draw at the USO.

yep, fed’s getting old. doesn’t have the firepower on the serves and strokes…it’s getting very noticeable, particularly against huge hitters like berdych. and once del potro is back…yikes.

even on the aces roger had against murray, they weren’t screamers. some of the aces going past fed today from murray were outrageous. mind you, fed’s serve was never about power, always placement, but both novak and andy started reading his first serves this week and were creaming them back.


blank Says:

Thanks Contador. Enjoy your evening.


grendel Says:

Incidentally, in the light of his performances this week, Murray’s talk about it being all very well to require him to be more aggressive, but that requires drills etc (margot dug out this quote) seems peculiar. Doesn’t look like Murray requires any drills at all in this respect, he knows perfectly well how to play aggressively. He may be dangerously tempted to drop back to his more characteristic game, however. But he’s so tactically astute, it doesn’t seem very likely.


Kimberly Says:

Just came back and saw score. Good for Murray.

I take it Sharapova won too?

She’s a decent threat for the USO. She’s gotten killed on draws in the last two GS though.

Is it true that Baghdatis/Cilic are playing tonight. I’m staying with Cilic. He can’t possibly bomb two tourneys in a row so badly.

i’m going to give my draw one last once over and hopefully the qualies are in place.


jane Says:

Kimberly, nope. Sharapova came back to a reborn Clijsters. Clijsters won the second set in a tiebreak and is now up a break in the third set. So it’s not looking good for Sharpie right now. Clijsters in that teeing off mode. Hitting winners all over.

Bruce, it seems genuine to me. I believe the two families went for dinner when Nole played Basel. Anyhow whatever, nevermind. Either way, it’s changed, but I doubt, in the end, it’s much of a factor in their matches. Nole has his own demons to work out.


steve Says:

Congrats to Murray and all his supporters, he played very well and was very strong throughout the week. Good mental effort to serve it out after facing a break point. He deserves this title.

I suspected Federer couldn’t scrap out another tough match on pure guts alone, especially when Murray was playing his best. He almost came back into it in both sets, but just not enough at crucial moments.

Rome wasn’t built in a day, and the adjustments he is making to his game are still in progress. It’ll take some time to mentally adjust to playing in a more aggressive way. But I am hopeful.


madmax Says:

andrea,

yes. a great win for murray. he ainly deserved to win tonight. IT was the best that I had seen him tactically play against TMF.

Although this comment here is a little harsh.

“yep, fed’s getting old. doesn’t have the firepower on the serves and strokes…it’s getting very noticeable, particularly against huge hitters like berdych. and once del potro is back…yikes.”

I cannot wait to see delpo back. A great competitor who has been sorely missed. And dont forget his track record not just against Fed, but also nadal and murray!

Firstly, Fed beat berdy this week. Berdy is 24 years. It was an excellent match full of brimstone and fire. Fed was pumped.

“even on the aces roger had against murray, they weren’t screamers. some of the aces going past fed today from murray were outrageous.”

Mind you, fed’s serve was never about power, always placement, but both novak and andy started reading his first serves this week and were creaming them back.”

Yes, again, federer fans know fed is getting “old”. passage of time, all of that. Novak is 23. Fed beat him yesterday too. I dont think your argument holds up all that well andrea. sorry. but i do take your point.

Federer didnt play a decent match today. Certainly not as well as he has been playing the previous 2 matches.

Andy was brilliant tonight. Outplayed fed. But by no means does that indicate that Fed is gone. On the contrary. It’s just about to begin.

Am sure he will reassess his week. All in all, a pretty good one I would say, worked hard to get back to No.2 already, plus hung in there on tight points against llodra, berdy and nole – an otherwise, earlier in the year, mentally weaker fed would have folded. That’s the difference here. In this tournament, we saw an inkling of the spark that has made federer so great. He couldnt pull it off today, c’est la vie, c’est la vie.

Can’t wait to see the british press tomorrow!


madmax Says:

*ainly?* – dont know what I meant to say there! I think it was *really*.


dari Says:

the sharapove clijsters match is really fun to watch!
i can recite the olympus pen camera commercial by heart.


Kimberly Says:

i guess i’m sticking with my picks since the qualifiers are not out and the draw challenge is about to close.


blank Says:

Good luck Kimberly!


Daniel Says:

Wow! Didn’t follw any of this week matches, missed a whole bunch of great Tennis by the look of the posts. Super congrats to Murray, beating Nadal and Fed in straights, would
now be his time for a Slam come Us Open?!


Kimberly Says:

Good luck to all draw challengers!

Let’s see if Roddick sinks me for a third time in a row! I don’t think this one will be my best one by far!!!!


skeezerweezer Says:

“ron Says:

fed…on the way to 20 slams!!!!

bwahhhhhhh!”

Sticks and stones, sticks and stones…..

You don’t get it, Fed fans will take the 16′s and live happily ever after. This is Fed at 29, not 24. No one will ever take the 16′s away. 20? Would be nice, but it would be only add to a unmatched wonderfully built Sundae of records and achievements.

This is Murrays day, give it to him. He deserved it.

Go back and re-watch Murrays Semi final :)


madmax Says:

way to go skeeze :)


steve Says:

@madmax: I agree, Federer will have to rely ever more on placement and variety rather than power. Not just on the serve, but in every aspect of his game. He will have to use parts of the court that he never used before and master shots that he eschewed in his younger days, like the drop shot.

Brad Gilbert suggested yesterday that he bulk up a bit, but that’s a bad idea because it will further slow him down and make him more vulnerable to injuries, and he needs all the speed he can get.

We are seeing the embryonic form of a new style, it’s bound to be messy. He’s only been with Annacone for a month or so, and the mental comfort to make the right choices on key points isn’t there yet.

It’ll only come with time.


grendel Says:

It’s not a question of placement and variety – Federer has all that and showed it amply, from time to time, in the match today. (b.t.w., no one commented on that backhand smash of his right at the end – what a beauty!).

It’s a question of a)ironing out the more ridiculous errors and b)extending the period he can maintain focus. As a matter of fact, I suspect these two are both aspects of the same problem. No idea how it works, but I assume that’s exactly what will be going on in Camp Federer over the next few weeks.

Hi, Daniel. I suppose the danger for Murray is that he has peaked too soon. But he is a thoughtful young man, and I expect he’ll be ready to go in New York. I reckon he’s joint favourite with Nadal (look for him to improve hugely over the next 3 weeks). But you know, I don’t think Fed’ll be too far behind, and he might even sneak up at the last minute when nobody’s looking and pinch the trophy. Wouldn’t rule that out.


skeezerweezer Says:

It was clear that Fed was doing some tinkering even in the final as he served and volleyed when he didn’t have to, to Murray ( It seemed Murray liked that, ha! ). Murray was smart to have a practice session prior tinkering his own game for Fed in a chip and charge scenario, also, as an example. It is quite fascinating really how these guys are trying to improve, including Rafa, and I like it. It will only make them better. IMO Borg started this some time ago, as he wasn’t content with his game after he was at or near the top and developed a banger of a serve.

I have my own opinion about Fed, and in my IMO he needs to work very little on his strokes. Footwork is paramount, as well as confidence in his abilities which are bar none.

He has shot out of the gate in several matches in his later career early but can’t seem to remain dominant through the match, or he comes back but can’t sustain it, so there is some mental work that needs to be done there. It is obvious and I don’t know what is in his mind now, except a family and sitting a top 16 GS.

He looked good today, but the shanks and UE’s weren’t there in the dominant Fed period. I hope he gets those kinks worked out. All in all a Fed fan has to be happy that Fed is battling in a final once again…..and let’s hope Murray continues to challenge for the top :)


Thomas Says:

Just for everyones info,in this tournament,Federer overtook Andre Agassis record of number of masters series match wins overall. Agassi had the record of 209,but now fed is on 213. Good win for Murray btw. He was excellent. Hope fed can improve in Cincy though.


Von Says:

Margot: Congrats to you, Murray’s biggest fan, and to all of his fans, on a great tournament win. Yahoo. Enjoy it margot, the drought is over! Is the refrigerator filled with champers for the next one? It’s a comin’…..

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skeezer: “…or he comes back but can’t sustain it, so there is some mental work that needs to be done there.”

You’re talking about an organ here, mon ami. When it begins to diminish in power/strength, or whatever, there’s very little one can do. If it were physical, then he could imbibe more supplements, change his diet, practise, practise, practise, however, its the mind, and it’s easier said than done.

Fed is playing nowadays, and surviving, more out of pride and determination, rather than from form. I’ll bet at the moments when he’s faltering he reminds himself that he’s a 16 GS winner, and should not let other opponents bully him around the court. it’s probably in those moments that you see that determined look and then he begins to up his level. Nowadays, it’s not all in the wrist and feet, it’s the mind …..


grendel Says:

skeezerweezer:

it is obvious that the chip and charge which Federer has indulged in a bit lately is an Annacone contribution. Do you think for someone who is not used to it, even if they are as at home on a tennis court as is Federer, d’you think they can incorporate it into their game just in a matter of weeks? In the one chip and charge I can remember off hand of Fed’s against Murray, the approach shot was weak, and presented Murray with an easy pass – easy for him, anyway. Presumably a more instinctive chip and charger would know immediately when the approach shot was adequate? Mind you, I can remember Annacone being pretty suicidal in this respect, hoping to bluff, I suppose.


jane Says:

Oh you mean individual matches Thomas. That’s a great stat. Speaking in titles, Rafa, for now, owns the most Masters Series at 18, with Fed right behind him at 17 (and Agassi but am trying to stick to current players). Fed has won his over a eight year winning span (i.e., he won his first in 02 and his most recent in 09) to Rafa’s six.

Of the remaining current players, tied for 3rd with most Masters 1000 titles are Murray (over 3 years), Nole (over 3 years) and Roddick (over 8 years) – all have 5 titles apiece. Now if these three men could just nab a few more slams!! ; )


jane Says:

grendel, Burwash thinks Fed’s approach shot needs work and felt Anacone is the ideal candidate to help him with it.


kimberly Says:

Does fed have 16 or 17 masters. I thought he had 16. Not that it matters. They r both a ridiculous number.

USO 2010 up for grabs? No I think one of the big four nails it.


jane Says:

You’re probably right Kimberly, I may’ve added one thinking as though he won today. Close but not this time. BTW, good luck with your draw challenge. Seems like some interesting picks.


guy Says:

fed isn’t old
you don’t lose power or speed at 29 unless you have mechanical issues[injuries].
olympic sprinters can prove my argument.
other players are just catching up, people just can’t seem to get their head around that.

still it’s clear the top four are very even on hardcourts. the problem is, for any of the top four to win, they have to usually take not just one, but two rivals. the top four all have very even records against eachother on hardcourts too. it’s making tournaments very hard to pick.


puckbandit Says:

Where is the bracket challenge?


madmax Says:

picking up on what von said about the brain. It’s more than that.

Your brain is a ‘thinking’ organ that learns and grows by interacting with the world through perception and action.

Mental stimulation improves brain function and actually protects against cognitive decline, as does physical exercise. (Thinking Fed here!).

The human brain is able to continually adapt and rewire itself.

As guy has said above, stop using the age card with Fed. Even in ‘old’ age, the brain can grow new neurons. Severe mental decline is usually caused by disease, whereas most age-related losses in memory or motor skills simply result from inactivity and a lack of mental exercise and stimulation.

In other words, use it or lose it.

All fed has to do is USE IT!


grendel Says:

guy sprinting is a simple sport compared to tennis; comcentration is far harder to maintain in tennis, quite obviously. And it is obvious that Fed’s ability to maintain focus over long stretches is not what it was. That might not be due to longevity as such, but to the number of hours he has put on the court. Makes no difference in the end.

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