Nothing Fishy: Flying Fish Faces Federer Today in Cincinnati Tennis Masters Final
by Sean Randall | August 22nd, 2010, 10:46 am
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The Cincinnati Tennis Masters Final between Roger Federer and Mardy Fish kicks off in about 90 minutes. The defending champion Federer is bidding for his fourth Cincinnati title and 17th Masters victory of his career.

Fish has been among the hottest players on the tour this summer. Now some 30 pounds lighter, the 28-year-old has recent wins over Andy Murray, John Isner, Fernando Verdasco and yesterday earned his second straight over Andy Roddick.

In the semifinal, Fish outlasted his good friend Roddick and Mother Nature in a streaky, unusual 4-6, 7-6(3), 6-1 win.

The first set was played on fairly even terms until a rain-delay hit just as Fish served 4-5. When play resumed an hour later Fish’s form fell apart and behind a flurry of errors Roddick snatched the easy break and with it the first set.

Things continued to unravel for Mardy as Roddick grabbed another break early in the second and appeared to be well in control up 5-2. But then a second rain stoppage hit, this one just for a few minutes. But that’s all the time Fish needed to regroup.

When the match resumed Fish suddenly came to life and stunningly broke Roddick when he served for the match at 5-3. Fish eventually claimed the tiebreaker winning four straight points off Roddick’s serve at one stretch. He then raced out to a 5-0 lead in the third as Roddick’s game came unglued.

What an absolutely bizarre match.

“You could see that in that situation,” Fish said of Roddick’s inability to serve out the match at 5-3. “Guys are gonna are nervous. And, you know, trying to serve it out, as big of a service game as Andy has, you know you don’t real feel too confident. I just tried to make him play as much as I could. I tried not to make too many errors on that game. I think I missed a second serve return and maybe missed a passing shot to lose the two points that I lost in that game. I made him play four points.”

Fish added, “We were both in a really good position in the semis of a Masters Series. I felt great. I’ve never felt better on the court and I’ve never been more confident and I’ve never played better. So I kept that in the back of my head, you know, that I’ve won a lot of matches this summer. You know, tried to take as much confidence from that as I can.”

Roddick said, “The first one really helped; the second one obviously didn’t. That’s the thing with rain delays. The momentum can shift really fast. I benefited from it the first time for sure. He came out and served kind of a sluggish game right away, and I kind of matched that. And then once he got back into it, he completely outplayed me in the third set. He was swinging from the hips. Even the breaker, I didn’t play a bad breaker. I made first serves and he played well. A lot of it comes down to one of the most important points was the ball I missed, the first point of the game where I was serving it out. You know, it was a short ball. I kind of think I hit it — because he had been hitting his passes pretty well, I think I overhit it. I make him play there, it might be a different story.”

Fish improves to 3-9 against his childhood friend, and the win is his 16th in his last 17 matches. He’s also back into the Cincinnati final for a second time after losing a heartbreaker back in 2003 to Roddick.

For Roddick, considering he’s been battling mono he had a great week to build off of for the US Open. The semifinal also returns him (and America) back into the Top 10 at No. 9. But, that’s back-to-back matches in which Andy was unable to serve out the match which is a little troubling.

“I feel okay,” Roddick said. “You know, to be honest, I came here and I had no expectations. For me to get in five really tough matches is more than I could’ve asked for going into the Open. Honestly, when I came here I was thinking maybe two matches we’ll see. I hadn’t really put too much time in. So beyond the disappointment that’s gonna linger for the next couple of hours, I think this week has been a complete positive considering how I felt and kind of where I was at 11 or 12 days ago.”

Last night, Federer got his revenge on Marcos Baghdatis for an Indian Wells loss earlier this year. In that match Federer held match points in what should have been a routine straight set win. This time Federer didn’t falter beating the Cypriot 6-4, 6-3 in comfortable fashion.

“I thought I read his first serve well, and that kind of put pressure on him,” said Federer who is now assured of the No. 2 seeding at the US Open. “I used the chip and charge here a bit because I know he’s struggled with that in the past. It’s quick conditions here, you know. I thought it was tough to control the ball today. So I kind of felt comfortable doing that. It worked on a couple of key moments, and that’s what I was trying to do. So I’m happy it all worked out. And yesterday I think he served something around almost 20 aces, and today he was only able to maybe get 3 or so. It’s funny how it goes. You know, that’s what tennis is. You never know what to expect the next day against the next opponent. I’m happy I was able to beat such a good player like Marcos today.”

Baghdatis, who had wins this week over Tomas Berdych and Friday night Rafael Nadal, was pleased with his week.

“It was a great week for me, and now back in the Top 20,” he said. “I felt great. I am fit and playing top guys well. I played three Top 10 guys and one Top 15 (Cilic) in the first round this week. Playing those matches without any pain is a bonus for me. I have to continue the way I’m working and just be patient and more success will come. I don’t have to think about any points or rankings and my ranking will go up by itself.”

So today in the final we have Federer and Fish. In the all-important head-to-head, Federer leads 5-1. But that one win for Mardy came in their most recent meeting at Indian Wells in 2008 when Fish clobbered Federer 6-3, 6-2 in one of those “mono matches” (a la Roddick yesterday).

Still, Federer is the clear favorite today. Roger’s shown some of his best form in quite a while this week and he hasn’t dropped a set (he was the beneficiary of a retirement and a walkover). Federer’s been attacking at the right moments, serving good and moving pretty well. I think today, Roger will try to pick on and attack Fish’s forehand and try to jump on Mardy’s nerves by getting an early break.

Said Federer of Fish, “He’s been injured sometimes, and obviously he likes to play the American hardcourts where maybe we stay more in Europe, so we kind of miss each other at times. But the time we played in Indian Wells I thought he came out and played the perfect match really. Yeah, it was a good match from his side. I never really got into the match. It was something similar to today, only I was on the loser’s side. Those matches go quickly. He seems like he’s playing well. Must be confident. I’m ready for that. We’ll see how it goes tomorrow.”

As I said earlier, few players are hotter right now than Fish. This stretch has to be the best tennis of his career so his confidence level right now has never been higher. Add that with his win over Federer in 2008 and mentally he has to feel good about his chances today.

That said, I do wonder about Mardy’s legs. You have to think that eventually this run will catch up to him physically. He’s played a lot of tennis this week – consecutive three sets wins over Murray and Roddick, and doubles. Plus, you still have to question can Mardy handle the pressure, situation and stage of a big-match final like this. We saw him some crumbling yesterday. And this is arguably the biggest match of Mardy’s career. There is no doubt Federer can, but can Fish?
My pick: Federer in two

Today’s final will be televised in the US on CBS sports live at noon.

SUNDAY CINCINNATI SCHEDULE

STADIUM start 12:00 noon
[3] R Federer (SUI) vs [WC] M Fish (USA)

Not Before 2:00 PM
[4] M Bhupathi (IND) / M Mirnyi (BLR) vs [2] B Bryan (USA) / M Bryan (USA)


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315 Comments for Nothing Fishy: Flying Fish Faces Federer Today in Cincinnati Tennis Masters Final

Gannu Says:

“I thought I read his first serve well, and that kind of put pressure on him,” said Federer who returns to No. 2 in the rankings

Thats a techincal flaw sean… federer is already no 2 .. by winning the match against baggy he protected his no 2 ..so he didnt return…

Anyways fed fans- madmax, huh, skeez, kimmi, kimmo.. lets all cheer for our man.. i hope feddy bear takes his second title of the season..been such a long while.. last time i supported full on for his aussie open final.. he needs all our collective support to take his second title of the season!!

And madmax – These USopen series is tough for Indians as the macthes are held at dead night.. so tough to get up and blog and then go to office early morning…Hence was absconding for quite some time;-) fortunately today’s match is at 9:30pm.. so i will be blogging and supporting… so hope to sail through some nerve wrecking moments with all of you ;-)

Fed is indeed striking the ball well.. being very aggressive and paul annacone’s aggresive approach while returning serve or coming to the net seems to be working.. hope fed wins cincy and takes the US open for 17th Grandslam…


Andrew Miller Says:

Go Mardy! I hope Fish treats Federer as just another opponent and wins this match. Trust me I love watching Federer play. But Fish must win this for Fish.


Sean Randall Says:

Gannu, you are 100% right. I meant to say by beating Baghdatis his No. 2 ranking and seeding at the US Open was assured.


Andrew Miller Says:

If Fish wins, this is no big deal for Federer. Federer heads into the US Open with excellent results in Montreal and Cincinatti – Finals in both Masters tournaments. But for Fish this win would be enormous. It would catapult him into position for a big run at US Open – QF or better.


Andrew Miller Says:

This US Open is wide open even if Federer is playing the best he has since the Aussie Open. I am saying this objectively: no one has a lock on the US Open. It should be a fun tournament!


Kimmi Says:

go fed


NELTA Says:

I hope Baggy doesn’t wear himself out. He is an injury prone player. The Pilot Pen will be his 5th hard court tournament in the past month and a half.


madmax Says:

Andrew, you mean Toronto finals for fed.

Hi Gannu, I’m here. I think Fish is going to be tough and I hope that Roger is ready.

Go Roger!
Great serving by fish so far.


madmax Says:

really good serving by fish. he’s not showing any nerves at all.

c’mon Fed!


David Says:

Andrew,

I’d say if someone can take out Fed in a big upset, then the tournament would be up for grabs. As long as the 5-time winner is in the draw, it’s his to lose.


Gannu Says:

Hey madmax good to have u here.. Fish is serving well.. and serving ahead..so its gonna be tough..lets c…


madmax Says:

c’mon fed…breakkkkk!

let’s go!


madmax Says:

I am it!

you’re fired buddy! Where are you?

another long game.


tennisfansince76 Says:

good lord will somebody put a muzzle on mary Carillo!


tennisfansince76 Says:

good lord will somebody put a muzzle on mary Carillo!


Kimmi Says:

bad miss federer on the second serve


Kimmi Says:

bad errors..easy errors today..wake up fed


David Says:

Sheesh, I can’t believe Fish just missed that overhead. It’s hard to see this thing going three sets. Probably 6-3, 6-3 for Fed.


madmax Says:

wasn’t sure if you were asleep. good to see you.

long game from fish, eh? angled volley. very good. fish is very good.

C’moon fed. stay focused.


David Says:

Kimmi

Fed just looks totally relaxed out there. This is like a walk in the park.


madmax Says:

Epic deuces. some break points which fed should have converted, but early days.

going to have to stay on his guard if he is going to win this.


Gannu Says:

This is the sad diff betn Fed version 2010 vs. fed version 2005-2007.. he simply wouldnt have lost that game.. just cant capitalise on imp points…


madmax Says:

commentators just said fed hasn’t finished up as a finalist 4 times in a row? well, didn’t he win one? AO, Halle, toronto and cinny are where he’s reached the final.

Come on Federer. Time to win.


Kimmi Says:

david..no its not a walk in the park. fish has been playing very well. needs to be careful


Ike Says:

Great hold Mardy!


Ike Says:

does anyone remember ever before Fed couldn’t win a game having 10 deuce?


Ike Says:

Why do they assign Mary Corilo for commentary in a final on CBS, r they nuts?


Daniel Says:

Fed lost severel chances, Fish serves a bunch of second serves and Fed made silly mistakes. Now he will have to wait for another bad serving game for Fish to have a chance. The good part is that he is holding his serve easilly as he did yesteeday, when neither of his service games went deuce.


tennisfansince76 Says:

Ike hasn’t that been Fed’s MO lately. not cashing in on chances on the other guy’s serve


Ike Says:

David

i m not so sure if “This is like a walk in the park.” for Fed, it’s gonna be battle royale!


Ike Says:

tennisfansince76

probably that’s the sign of the time, Fed getting older can’t run that much anymore :)


Ike Says:

we all know if Fish can improve his 1st serve % he can give Fed run for his money……..


blank Says:

madmax,

It’s Madrid, Halle, Toronto and Cincy – his last 4 finals.


David Says:

Believe it or not you guys, Fed used to struggle in matches sometimes even at his peak.


Ike Says:

Daniel

just curious, who do u thing is the next Guga from ur country? Why hasn’t been Brazil able to produce that many great tennis players?


David Says:

What about Bellucci? He’s close to being a top 10 clay courter right now.


Daniel Says:

Fish is very solid, almost all long ralliea are going his way. Fed is hitting some easy balls in the net, he needs to play a clean return game to break.


Ike Says:

David, grendel,

i will get back to u re. state of tennis in USA after doing some more research. Both u had good points yesterday.


tennisfansince76 Says:

I am sorry but Fish has girly calves


David Says:

Roger’s holding serve soooo easily. Fish is doing surprisingly well in rallies on his own serve, but I doubt he can keep this up much longer.


Daniel Says:

Tennis is an elite sport here Ike. Plus we don’t gris with the sence that sports is a “job” unless is soccer. We lack the mental fortitude to commit


Daniel Says:

Gris, should be grow. Damm iPhone!:)


David Says:

Here comes the break?


Kimmi Says:

bad error from fish. c’mon fed


Kimmi Says:

wow, big ace at IMPORTANT point


tennisfansince76 Says:

good for fish for losing 30 lbs but i know the announcers are going to mention it millions of times for the next few years until i am ready to puke. similar to JBlake’s neck and shingles. i am pretty economical. you told me once. i heard you now lets move on to something else please!


David Says:

Roger is being really sloppy on the return. He missed 2 balls in that game he should never miss. Fish came up with a great ace to get out of trouble too.


Ike Says:

Great serves from Mardy


Kimmi Says:

great hold fron fish..concentrate fed. need to hold yours


Daniel Says:

Fed silly second serve returns errors are killing him today. I think Fish won more points in his second serve than his first.


tennisfansince76 Says:

Re: Daniel. don’t brazilians have a laid back attitude. go to the beach, drink cocktails etc.


contador Says:

tomaz bellucci is brazillian. he’s got a great forehand and lefty serve.

careful roger. 5-4 fish


madmax Says:

a bit nerve wracking here. but fed should hold and it could, just could go to the tie break.

Mardy’s got the best stats this year for the tie break.


Ike Says:

Daniel

don’t damn the iPhone, it’s brings u lot of good things…it’s ur fault :)


Ike Says:

Daniel

i got the point though


David Says:

Why can’t Rafa serve like Fed? What a nice weapon to pull out of the bag whenever you need it.


Kimmi Says:

aaaaaaggggr


tennisfansince76 Says:

Fish nt getting much traction on Fed’s serve. Fed has been the one w/ chances. but we all know in Tennis what can happen if you do not capitalize on your chances. Fed let Fish back in this game


Kimmi Says:

careful rog


contador Says:

yes! hang on federer.

oh no….


Kimmi Says:

fish has been doing really well on tie breaks..i think this will go to the tie break


Gannu Says:

that was a very crucial hold by feddy.. now really getting nervous in this tail end of this set!!!! Hope feddy breaks fish now !! come on feddy


Ike Says:

contador, daniel

Thomaz Bellucci is promising talent, i haven’t seen him playing that much, but he does seem like “baby” Del Po.
But other than him i don’t c any other talent


tennisfansince76 Says:

Fed should play more Junk to Fish’s FH


David Says:

Come on, Fish. Get your first serve in! You can’t expect to win these rallies on your own serve.


Kimmi Says:

another break point..c’mon


David Says:

Break point. If Fish misses his serve one more time, this set’s going to be over.


Gannu Says:

i really want fed to break now come on fed no more heart attacks


Daniel Says:

Second ace on break point, got give credit to Fish


Ike Says:

tennisfansince76

“good for fish for losing 30 lbs but i know the announcers are going to mention it millions of times for the next few years until i am ready to puke.”

may be they will keep saying it until we all fat Americans drop 30 lbs.


Kimmi Says:

WOW! WOW WOW!


Ike Says:

why did Fed challenge that serve, just because of the importance of the situation? i mean it was right on the line.


David Says:

Wow, great second serve from Fish. Now an ace, please.


Ike Says:

Gannu

i think Fed will be broken now!


Ike Says:

Fish saved total 4 BPs in this set, awesome!


Sean Randall Says:

No sign of nerves from Mardy. He’s got a good chance at this one!


Daniel Says:

Fish survived 4 deuce games.
ike, he hás a huge forehand but lack the mental develipment yet.


Ike Says:

USA, USA, USA!!!


Kimmi Says:

ike – i hope not. hope for tie break. fish has great tie break record tho


madmax Says:

gannu. what to say? it’s all okay. who knows what is going to happen. just have to keep supporting.

fish having a fry up.


David Says:

Realistically, Fish has to win this tiebreaker.


Ike Says:

Daniel

Fish’s FH is like mine, when it works its great otherwise………


Kimmi Says:

federer go


Ike Says:

i m Fish fan, but i think he will lose TB


tennisfansince76 Says:

re Ike losing some weight would be good. my point was more the annoying tendency of sports announcers to repeat these stories ad nauseum until you can’t take it anymore. liek w/ Blake. they were still telling that story many times a match 4 years after his dip. you’d think he survived the Bataan death march or something. overkill


Kimmi Says:

bad miss on that second serve fed


i am it Says:

I am hoping Fed wins the first set, Mardy 2nd, and Fed the 3rd. He has to.


Ike Says:

not that i want Fed to win but that’s the reality.


David Says:

Come on, Fish. No more loose errors.


Kimmi Says:

bad misses from fish


Ike Says:

i am it

i hope for the opposite of that


David Says:

Two points in a row he got in a neutral position on Fed’s serve and he hit the ball over the baseline. Uggh.


madmax Says:

well, this could be sean, but I feel fed is feeling nervous. it’s strange, because he could play so freely right now.

May be he is saving it all up for the USO? would be nice to get a title before going into New York. All of the men’s tour will be watching this!

Federer, final, feeling the pressure. No one should be able to deal with this better than him?!!!

C’mon Federer!


Kimmi Says:

wow, what a shot by fish..luck shot that was


Kimmi Says:

danger time..danger


madmax Says:

mini break. I HAVE to watch this without leaving the room.


Ike Says:

tennisfansince76

i got the “annoying” part of the weight loss, but for some reason i like that story, year ago i lost 20 lbs and i really felt good, i was 178 then went down to 158, and now back to 178 :)
i don’t know how many people i annoyed by telling by great weight loss story :)


contador Says:

yay! great first serve return fed


dari Says:

C’mon roger get this tie break, gotta do big things on fish’s serve! Nice fh!


Kimmi Says:

thats it for fed..oh no

mini break back..strabge. federer play well when he is behind


i am it Says:

Amazing forehand pass from Fed and a mini break.


i am it Says:

Fish neutralizes right away.


Gannu Says:

I AM PISSED OFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF


madmax Says:

well, this is what finals are made of!

set point.

tension.


contador Says:

terrible fed. missed a huge opportunity : (


Kimmi Says:

boooooooooooooooooooooo!


Ike Says:

Yessssssssssssssssss


Kimmi Says:

fish with great tie break records continues


i am it Says:

Fed misses next 3 in a row and hands Fish the 1st set, shame that Fed had the set on his racket but squandered it.


Ike Says:

Mardy the LION-HEART!!!


Daniel Says:

This is the most anger I have cheering for Fed in a while. How can he have 5-4 in tiebreak, and he didn’t put a first serve on court, just bizarre.


Andrew Miller Says:

Fish draws first blood!


madmax Says:

Gannu,

we’ve been here before, we’ll be here again. This is fed. He’s lacking his shots and confidence today. I can see it. Don’t know why? He’s got nothing to lose now.

Fish is on fire!

Well, as I am it said – fed HAS to win the next set.

Tiebreaks suck!

I watched the cinny final last year with fed and novak, fed was playing so much better, so much lighter on his feet.

Fish is quick. Serving unbelievably well.

Fed not so.

Fed needs to find the big points on his serve.

Let’s see what happens.


guy Says:

fish was completed outplayed during that set…played a great tiebreak though


Ike Says:

guys plz. stop saying how Fed lost the set. Give some credit to Mardy!


Andrew Miller Says:

Fed played a good set – Mardy didnt wince even down 4-5 – that was smart. Usually the opponents crumble after giving up chances in the tiebreak, but Mardy wise enough to give himself another shot at the set.


Daniel Says:

If he loses this match it will be huge upset de his confidence, 4 finals in which he didn’t win a title will make him question himself.


Kimmi Says:

he neeeds to raise his level now..take adv on those second serves


Ike Says:

Daniel,

even if he is Fed the so called GOAT, pressure can do the trick….


guy Says:

fed won 67% second serves, fish will have to change that or he’ll lose


Kimmi Says:

where was all those big serves fed…aaarrrrg


madmax Says:

Ike, I think you can do that, can’t you? we’re on opposing sides and there are plenty of comments for fish, you just need to read them.


Andrew Miller Says:

Nah, I doubt Federer will question himself going into the US Open. He knows better than anyone that two of three is often a crapshoot (that he wins, more often than not) but that few can last in the three of five set duels.

Federer has nothing to be ashamed of in the North American hardcourt swing – he’s been finals in both Masters tournaments. This is all gravy.


Gannu Says:

i give up… its sad that fed has to come up with losers like fish u can play out of the blue one fine day but dont have any capabilities to win a grandslam.. if mardy beats fed, then better he goe sonto win US open.. no pint in proving ur mettle in all these tournaments


Andrew Miller Says:

“Fed the GOAT,” not “so-called GOAT” !!


i am it Says:

Fed has to play more aggressively and freely to steal a break as early as he can and ride the momentum so he wins the 2nd set, or else …


madmax Says:

right, we need the big boys on TX now. Sean and Ben, where are you? Why isn’t fed playing with free confidence today?


Ike Says:

Andrew Miller

take it ez


Daniel Says:

Fish doesn’t have a single forehand winner the entire match and is leading 1-0!


Andrew Miller Says:

Ha better not to dismiss Fish! He is playing well this summer and has beaten Federer before. This match is no surprise: he was going to play Federer tough no matter whether he had a bad summer or a good summer.


madmax Says:

I am it, you too.

Fed has won more points 54 points to 50, played a better first set, and yet loses it? Federer come on! Goat man, come on!


Andrew Miller Says:

A little disturbing: Federer’s backhand misses.


i am it Says:

That was a bad backhand miss from Fed and he missed the chance to deuce.


guy Says:

two boys in the crowd holding a sign ‘federer is sweeter than chocolate’. that’s just wrong


Ike Says:

madmax

wud u stop showing that “preacher” attitude?


madmax Says:

Fed seems as if there is no passion, no clenching of fists, no c’mons! where are they?

I thought Fed wanted this tournament really badly?

we need an early break!

No more tie break, please.

Fed has won 77% of his points on his second serve. WTF?

They are talking about Fed coming into this match saying “I’m serving great, the break will come”.

It’s anyone’s game but this is getting too tight.


madmax Says:

grow up Ike. I was trying to help. Said there were plenty of comments you could read about Fish were complimentary.


Sean Randall Says:

Madmax, Fed missed two first serves up 5-4 in that breaker. That killed him.

If Fed gets up near 60% first serves he should win.

Mardy struggles with his second serve against Fed, and since Mardy doesn’t serve a particualry high first serve % that should help Fed.

But Roger does need to covert those break chances which he was unable to do in the first set.

I’m impressed with how free and fearless Fish has played.


madmax Says:

Fed has not been as aggressive in this match, I am it – do you think?


madmax Says:

Right, so we need the first serves in then. Come on Fed!


Daniel Says:

I give up, second serve on his forehand 30-30 and he send he send the ball out. Must start preparing for another tiebreak.


madmax Says:

I said to Ben earlier that when Federer is playing, other players (like Fish) become different players, resurgent players. Ben says that Fed has a tendency to squash these players – ummmmmm.


madmax Says:

This match! what’s happening fed?


Kimmi Says:

oh nooo..fish has a break point


Daniel Says:

Looks lime the goda are on Fish side today, that point for deuce was bizarre


i am it Says:

Madmax, what happened in the tie break was Fed got too pleased to steal those 2 points from Fish, which was a bit unexpected considering how well Fish has been playing, as a result Fed rushed to take the set and erred in agitation, throwing away 3 in a row. He needed more patience in those stances.

In the 2 serving games of Fish’s in the 2nd set, Fed had half chances, but lacked aggression and precision. Overall, there is a miscalculation to time aggression and patience.


Kimmi Says:

just getting lucky on that miss from fish


Kimmi Says:

c’mon


Gannu Says:

madmax did u hear the first come on !! he wants to win!! ;-)


guy Says:

simon,gasquet,verdasco,murray,roddick,federer.
i think that’s fish’s draw. sure not everyone there is in form, but that’s one of the toughest draws you’ll find, harder than most grandslam winners draws.


Andrew Miller Says:

tough game for Fish now, serving after a game he could have won. Might weigh on him in this 2-3 game.


Gannu Says:

madmax i am so tired of seeing federer lose…the last time we all saw him winning was in Jan and its been now 7 months .. that if i am not wrong is the longest period without any tournament win for federer since 2002!!!!!!!!! so its happening after 8 yrs…


Kimberly Says:

go mardy!!!! bring it!!!!


guy Says:

come on just play the tiebreak, i wanna go to bed


Kimmi Says:

easy easy hold for fish


Andrew Miller Says:

Wow. Fish putting the pressure back on Federer by winning his service game at love.


Kimmi Says:

those drp volleys dont work


tennisfansince76 Says:

death penalty for that pun Mary carillo!


Ty Says:

Mary Carillo needs to be taken out back and put out of her commentary misery.


Andrew Miller Says:

Federer lucky this service game, Fish a little sloppy on the returns.


Daniel Says:

At peara Fed is serving first, maybe Fish will feel some pressure in his upcomings service games.


Gannu Says:

Fortunately we have Jason goodall and robby koenig.. they do a much better job of commentary i guess..


Andrew Miller Says:

I must be on a different channel – I don’t have Carillo, only Koenig and the other fellow from the U.K. Both are outstanding commentators!


guy Says:

i think americans need to stop complaining about the fall of men’s tennis, they have 4 guys in the top 25 after this week


Andrew Miller Says:

(I am not a fan of Carillo and the U.S. tv commentators, other than Drysdale.)


guy Says:

granted isner and querrey are a little retarded


Daniel Says:

They both are very segure on serve, I haven’t saw a single 0-30 game so far.


guy Says:

break and hold baby, break and hold


tennisfansince76 Says:

Re Guy yes but none of them are charismatic superstars ala connors, mac, agassi, sampras. none of their games are that exciting I don’t think.

re: andrew agree love drysdale


Ike Says:

madmax

wud u stop showing that “preacher” attitude?


Andrew Miller Says:

glad tennisfansince76 you like Drysdale! It is funny because when he and pat mcenroe are in the booth Pat McEnroe is always questioning Drysdale, but Drysdale knows what’s up!


Andrew Miller Says:

Big hold from Federer – easy hold in a crucial game. This puts pressure on Fish, not sure if he will withstand it.


Ike Says:

madmax

instead of telling others to grow up, why don’t u grow up (at least just a little bit)


Daniel Says:

Well Fish is on a mission, he didn’t show any sign of pressure.


Andrew Miller Says:

Sheesh. I am more nervous for Fish than Fish is actually nervous. That was a big game from Fish.


Kimmi Says:

going to another tie break?


guy Says:

tennisfansince76
true, but take away murray and hewitt and brits and oz have noone and both countries have slams. that’s pretty embarassing


Daniel Says:

Wow, this shot worthy the match!


Andrew Miller Says:

Another strong game from Federer. Up 6-5 and in position to take the 2nd set.


Gannu Says:

lke can u keep ur mouth shut…… dont jump up and own because ur man is winning… i can bet that he doesnt even reach the semis at US Open… Fish is a journeyman and would always be… so just rememeber that before u open ur mouth


tennisfansince76 Says:

Tennis is an artform. Federer is a master. a rembrandt, a van Gogh. none of our guys are that. none of them have compelling games. i smell a 2nd set tiebreaker.


i am it Says:

Two love games in a row for Fed,good sign for the tie break if he cannot break here at 6-5. Fed will have to go all-out and try to break and win the set. Go Fed !


Kimmi Says:

can fed take the second.. c’mon the fed


Kimmi Says:

shank on the backhand again on important point


tennisfansince76 Says:

re Andrew

Pmac and drysdale have a witty rappoir. pmac is always needling him in a friendly way


guy Says:

dent is quite interesting to watch


guy Says:

commentators need to shut up about chipping and charging, it doesn’t work in today’s game


Kimmi Says:

so much space to wack the backhand. c’mon fed


tennisfansince76 Says:

i wonder why it doesn’t seem to occur to Fed to slice his BH more to the Fish FH?


guy Says:

very well anyway


i am it Says:

Fed’s back hand has really impeded his chances to break today. Feel sorry.


Kimmi Says:

anothe tie break..can fed do it


tennisfansince76 Says:

re guy
dent is a bit of a lumberer


guy Says:

fish and roddick both have the same stategy against federer, hit zero forehand winners


guy Says:

yeah dent is a bit slow, but throw him a bone. he served a 149mph serve the other day and he’s not that tall


guy Says:

i sense a 62 final set coming up


Kimmi Says:

4-1 ca he keep it up..needs to get another mini break here

and he gets it


tennisfansince76 Says:

fed comes good in tiebreak #2. its always such a fine line in tbs


Kimmi Says:

7-1..great

is it going to another tie breaker. c’mon the fed


Andrew Miller Says:

Yep. Well done Federer! Third set!


tennisfansince76 Says:

re: guy I will throw him a stegosaurus bone. i’m sorry i just have never been a fan of dinosaur tennis. but best wishes to fish. i hope he does well. he certainly plays a style nobody plays anymore. keeping the flame alive.


Daniel Says:

That was a perfect tiebreak, Fish only point come in an ace.
Who said Fed wasn’t hungry for this title?!


guy Says:

fed wins 80% of second serve!?
seriously fish, karlovic returns better than that. that’s horrendous


NELTA Says:

Rafa looked scrawny standing next to Dent in the pre-match coin flip. Dent could definitely lose some poundage. He must weight at least 220.


Gannu Says:

thank God he takes the second set… the biggest worry is fed will be serving behind in this entire 3rd set.. some miracle needs to happen and fed needs to break mardy’s serve… really a nerve wrecking final..


Andrew Miller Says:

I agree with the chip/charge issues – seriously, Federer seems to have tons of time to hit a passing shot (winner or not), so chipping/charging remains perilous to those that attempt it.


i am it Says:

We have match. Much better tiebreak from Fed. Good Job well done there, now carry that momentum into the 3rd and finish as well as you can. Go Fed !


Tennis Vagabond Says:

That was an amazing tiebreak. I am very impressed with Fed’s form this week. Even if he loses today, he has shown some real old-school Fed form.


tennisfansince76 Says:

re guy you could not be more right about C & C ing in today’s game. aggressiveness can work but you have to pick your spots. its a way to finish pts and take advantage of baseline firepower but just to come in on any old shot is professional suicide.


tennisfansince76 Says:

re vagabond yes except way too many easy mistakes on BH.


madmax Says:

Gannu,

don’t worry about Ike. I’m just going to ignore her.

i know what you mean about federer, but look gannu, he is the best ever, whatever, no one comes close. There have been improvements in his game these last two tournaments in particular, for a long time, shots/passion have been missing. Hopefully fed will continue to work with Annacone. So hold on to that thought gannu.

Everyone wants to beat him, the bar has been set so high because federer has set it, for many years, that is his legacy and always will be. He is so much more. I can’t imagine what the pressure must feel like for him, and what we expect from him on a constant basis. It’s unfair really, because we really have been spoilt.


madmax Says:

gannu, one day, we watch a match together – :))))

Where is the nearest event to you? I think you are in Pakistan, is that right? Going to try to get to Dubai next year, crossed fingers.

The both of us at a fed match will be nervous wrecks but great believers!


Andrew Miller Says:

However: I think Pat Rafter would do well in today’s game. He is head and shoulders above all players except Federer in the volley department, and his athleticism and extra quickness would help in in closing off opponents’ passing shot opportunities.

So even if chip/charge is dead, guys like Rafter would still put up huge results in today’s game in my opinion


Andrew Miller Says:

Federer has played a great two Masters tournaments in a row. Nothing to fear as he enters the three of five set environment at the US Open.


grendel Says:

haven’t had chance yet to read comments, so hope am not repeating too much.
we were talking of Fish’s erratic serving yesterday, so not surprisingly, he just rolled in his first serves to begin with. But as confidence accrued, he started serving properly, and now he looks a great, great servevr.

Fish played with courage in the first set – but with authority in the 2nd, until the tiebreak. Federer had looked oddly flat, but Cowan reckons it’s because he wants the title so badly , to give him confidence going into the Open, and this has restricted him somehow. boy, has he missed some. for instance in last game before tiebreak, he’d put himself in position to win the point 3 times, and muffed each one amazingly badly. How did he turn it around for tiebreak? How does a master of his art do anything? Baffling.

Fed’s volleying has been woeful – alright, last one good, but high. We were raving yesterday about how good Fed’s volleying was, but today, Fish has tested him with several low balls, and Fed’s been found wanting on each occasion. He’s got to learn to bend his bloody knees. People like Rafter or even Henman would have got those volleys – we’ve got to admit Federer cannot yet be called a great volleyer.

Dunno how this 3rd set’s gpoing (got my telly on live pause), but already, we’ve seen enough of Fish to suggest he’s as good an outside bet for the Open as anyone. He’s been terrific.


Daniel Says:

Fish second serve is very good, Fed is always having to move to hit it, of courae two hands can deal with it better.


Andrew Miller Says:

Grendel, if Fed is not a great volleyer in today’s game, does a great volleyer exist on the ATP?


Ike Says:

Gannu

can u keep ur mouth shut…… don’t jump up and own because ur man is winning… i can bet that he doesn’t even reach the semis at US Open… Fed is a spent force … so just remember that before u open ur mouth


tennisfansince76 Says:

re andrew what i remember about PR was his incredible lateral movement out of the break at net. it was just astounding like full 90 degrees cuts at full speed w/ balance. as for doing well in todays game? not sure. I have a hard time seeing his 2nd serve holding up against the modern return game.


tennisfansince76 Says:

the 2000 and 2001 Agassi Rafter Wimby semis were classics. Agassi should have won in 2001. but he couldn’t serve it out in the 5th set. could have been his year at Wimby


tennisfansince76 Says:

conditioning doesn’t seem to be a problem for the Fishman today


Daniel Says:

Fish is not going for winners all the time but his arrojes are very deep and well placed, he is playing very smart.


Kimmi Says:

oh nooo!


Daniel Says:

Fish second serve got be one of the best in business.


Kimmi Says:

fish is just great nowadays


tennisfansince76 Says:

players today don’t hit low volleys consistently as they used to have to. most volleys are high put aways or drop volleys of out of position loopers. its simply not a big part of the game today. edberg and rafter were masters of the low volley. they could take low volleys and put them deep w/ good force and direction.


Daniel Says:

Well grendel, what about this volley. If Fed isn’t a great volleyer in this era, who is?!


Kimberly Says:

just got back, impressed with Mardy for hanging in there-regardless of the winner he should hold his head up high. Great tourney.


Gannu Says:

I must admit that fish is really playing the match of his life…Federer indeed is also playing well but sometimes its really unfortunate that he came up against a man who is on fire..


i am it Says:

About Fed’s miscalculation that I mentioned above, he is pre-deciding aggression and patience, instead of instantly deciding right after the opponent releases the ball.

Yes, I agree with Grendel that Fed’s volley has been below the par today. But probably more than volley, his backhand has betrayed him today at crucial moments, largely due to fractionally slower movement at times, which, in turn, is the result of misreading or slow reading of the opponent’s move.


tennisfansince76 Says:

clutch serving from Fed today


Kimmi Says:

very close. nervous


Kimberly Says:

federer is the worst challenger in the atp


Daniel Says:

Won’t we have a 0-30 game for a change?


Kimmi Says:

court open, fed miss it


Kimberly Says:

can fed get this break?


tennisfansince76 Says:

30-40 tightening of the sphincter


Kimmi Says:

break point..c’mon fed. one break today


tennisfansince76 Says:

first break!


Kimmi Says:

BREAK!! eventually!!!

C’mon. serve it out fed. here here here


Gannu Says:

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
YES MADMAX OUR MAN BROKE


Daniel Says:

Finally!!!!!!


Kimberly Says:

great point fed to serve for championship


contador Says:

oh please feddy!


i am it Says:

Fed converts the 5th break point, after 2 hours and 35 minutes, finally. Hope he serves great here and wrap it up, without toying any more.
Go Fed !


contador Says:

i can’t watch : /


tennisfansince76 Says:

nice wheels fish!


Kimmi Says:

drop shot..fish gets it


Gannu Says:

i really dont wnat any drama please close out fed


tennisfansince76 Says:

is it gonna be old fed or new fed?


i am it Says:

Weak volley followed by 2nd serve saved. 2 points to go.


tennisfansince76 Says:

coffee is for closers!


Gannu Says:

two MPS COME ON COME ON COME ON


Kimmi Says:

2 match point.

Contador – watch


Kimberly Says:

double match point


Kimmi Says:

where is the big first serve


madmax Says:

gannu, you okay bud?


Kimberly Says:

single match point


Daniel Says:

Congrats Fed for finally winning a title and finding his past form going ti the Open!
63 titles tieing Bjorn Borg, one away fron Pistol Pete!


Gannu Says:

HE DID OUR MAN DID


tennisfansince76 Says:

whewwwww! raj gets his cup of coffee today!


Kimmi Says:

At last..this match is over. Congrats fed. Congrats fish for giving us a great tense match.

YAY!!


Gannu Says:

OH MADMAX JUST CANT BELIEVE THE EMOTIONS THAT I GO THROUGH ;-)


i am it Says:

2 MPs for Fed. Poor backhand slice, instead of going for inside-out. 2nd serve. Fish misses.

Congratulations to Fed for his 17th Masters.
Beautiful final, indeed. Thank you, guys. A great run for Fish. Kudos to him, as well.


tfouto Says:

yeah!!!!


Gannu Says:

where is lke?????? ;-)


contador Says:

phew!

thank you roger……what a relief!


Daniel Says:

Well fellow Fed fans we could ask for something more, final and a title beating serveral of his late nemesis (Berdy, Davy, Baghy, Djoko and Fish way back to 2008).
He is dedintly not going anywhere, anytime soon.


Ike Says:

Great fight Mardy!
Good luck for US Open!


Gannu Says:

A spent force defeats fish hahahahahhaha wat a pity lke?


Ben Pronin Says:

Awesome. Federer ties Wilander with most Cincy titles. He also comes in second in the USO series. But beyond that, he just equalled his best result at these two events combined. In 07 he also reached both finals and won Cincy. Amazing. Who says he’s declining? Haha. But seriously, that’s why he’s called the GOAT. Greatest decline ever.


i am it Says:

Fish: “Congrats Roger. He is greatest of all time.”


madmax Says:

gannu!

phew…talk about tense. This is what great finals are made of, could not have been closer. WOZA fed. A true champion. Mardy. Dangerous, dangerous man – against anyone on tour – watch out!

I need a drink.


steve Says:

Great match. Yay Federer! He had to play ugly sometimes, but that was due to the quality of Fish.


Ben Pronin Says:

The goat feasted on the fish. Haha.


Ike Says:

Gannu

We will c that at USO!


madmax Says:

Ben, great news!

Ben, Fed has tied with Borg as well – 63 titles.
(Ben – you said fed was declining buddy – don’t you remember? :))))).

Also, gannu, honestly people like Ike are not worth it. don’t go down that road – you are a fine poster here, and you know that to be the case – try to ignore and focus on future matches – this is what people like her want –

A great match from mardy – American tennis should be really, REALLY proud.


Kimberly Says:

congrats to federer and his fans.


fed is afraid Says:

oh my the commentator just said roger was afraid of rafa!! LOL


dari Says:

Love it, ben “greatest decline ever”! Man what a guy, that fed! VERY happy for his defending title, that is a big deal and looks like the trend this summer at the masters. as for the uso, defending champ won’t be there, so next best, the defending finalist shall take it!
CONGRATS ROGER! REST AND KICK A** in NYC!!!!
I suppose he got that break point conversion when he needed it most ;)


NELTA Says:

Fish is seeded 4th for Pilot Pen. The tournament won’t be happy, but I think he should withdraw and rest up for the USO.


dari Says:

fed is afraid, are you watching robby koening?


Gannu Says:

fed is afraid is the biggest loser on earth… ur man got raped by Baggy … if he had reached the semis fed would have defetaed nadal 6-0, 6-0..and FYI in toronto Murray said Fed is the GOAt and now Fish said Fed is the GOAT.. I dont whay no one calls that a$$ picker GOAT????


fed is afraid Says:

i guess that was him, i had it on cbs but of course they had to run to golf, so i went to channelsurfing to see trophy ceremony


Skeezerweezer Says:

I would love to see the anti Feds come out now and talk some more about decline. Great tourny Fed. The Fedex has returned :)


Tennis Vagabond Says:

Very impressive play by both. Fish, in my opinion, has jumped on to the Wreckers list for the USO with Berdych, Baggy and maybe Soderling or Nalbandian.
I saw a couple things this week that struck me, but both are more gut feels than anything: first of all, starting in Toronto but much more so here, I saw an aggressive/confident/hungry Fed like I don’t feel I’ve seen in two years. His return game has had that relentless pit bull feel that Nadal gives.
Secondly, in the Baghdatis match, I felt like I saw Nadal actually showing fear, maybe for the first time ever. Although he might get a bit tight on very rare occasions, to me, Nadal has always been fearless, locked in and determined. Here, he was clearly nervous and had a few tight points. But there was a kind of anxiousness in his face I’d never seen before.
Wonder if anyone else saw the temperaments the way I did.


fed is afraid Says:

the goat has a hard time winning against the ass picker, no?


Ike Says:

NELTA

agree with u re. Fish should withdraw from Pilot Pen and rest up for the USO.


Andrew Miller Says:

A smart third set from Federer. He took advantage where he could and steals the victory from Fish.


Ike Says:

madmax

(Sincere) Thanks for your classy comment “A great match from mardy – American tennis should be really, REALLY proud.”

Keep up the good comments.


i am it Says:

Basketball fans, next we have USA-Spain FIBA World Championship friendly on ESPN3. You don’t want to miss this one out.


Ben Pronin Says:

Let’s be practical people. Fed loses and the haters say he’s done. He wins and the lovers say he’s as good as ever. He’s Roger Federer. He’ll always be great. But he’s still declining at his own Federesque pace. You can’t expect him to win everything but you can’t expect him to win nothing. If he gets adequate rest, he is one of the heavy favorites to win the US Open.


dari Says:

6-7, 7-6, 6-4 masters final loss isn’t anything to be ashamed of for fish for the summer! he really held on tight most of the time, and he beat mcmurray and andy among the rest. i haven’t grown to love the guy yet, but am glad he is playing so well! good job to both finalists!


dari Says:

I am a fed lover, and i don’t say necessarily that fed is as good as ever, but he is HANGING ON, and that’s what counts! I say the feet look wonderful, the serve can really come thru still, and the net play is great. but he is shanking and not converting bp’s at a higher rate. the thing about roger is, he IS STILL WIINNING this way! imagine if he cleaned up a bit for uso, and got his head together on the bp opportunities… its just a good tennis sunday i suppose i will stay in this moment and congratulate fed and fish! its gotta feel good for fed going in though!


Gordo Says:

I have been asked to put this up again for those of you who missed it, especially now when the Nadal supporters pull out the “Well, if Rafa had been in the Cincy final” it would have been a different story -

Nadal’s amazing skill on clay and his improvement on grass has people thinking he should be one of the favorites at the U.S. Open. And why not? He is #1 in the world.

Well, here is why not -

Since Jan 2007 Nadal has played 41 ATP tournaments on hard courts, winning 5 of them (Indian Wells 2007, Toronto 2008, Beijing Olympics 2008, Australian Open 2009, Indian Wells 2009).

Number of these 41 tournaments where he has won 5 or more consecutive matches – 9 (the 5 above, plus Australian Open 2008, Miami 2008, US Open 2008, US Open 2009).

Number of these 41 tournaments where he has lost to Djokovic – 7 (Montreal and Miami 2007, Indian Wells and Cincy 2008, Cincy, Paris and Barclays 2009)

Number of these 41 tournaments where he has lost to Davydenko – 5 (Miami and Paris 2008, Shanghai and Barclays 2009, Doha 2010).

Number of these 41 tournaments where he could have met Roger Federer – 35

Number of these 35 tournaments where he DID meet Roger Federer – 2 (each winning 1)

As long as Fed and Nadal are the top seeds at tournaments it will be a long time before they meet on a hard court surface. And in 4 years they are 1-1 against each other. The chances of them meeting are slim, but if they do, do not think Federer will be shaking in his sneakers anytime soon.

Nadal may indeed put up a huge match against Federer in the U S Open should he meet him. The problem is, to do so he has to win 6 matches and he just doesn’t seem to be able to do that on hard surfaces.


madmax Says:

FIF,

would help I suppose if nadal could reach the finals in the first place (as you started this), and I think if you look at the times fed has reached the finals and rafa hasn’t, then I rest my case. I think we’re talking 16 slams final wins plus 6 finals which fed has reached – you check the math on rafa.

Skeezer! yep, you said it!

It’s weird isn’t it? From nowhere, until the very end of the match, ‘they’ appear – it’s just weird.


jane Says:

Congratulations for Federer and his fans on a great final and for defending his title; he looks like he is in great form for the USO.


tennisfansince76 Says:

re Ben Goats are known to eat anything and everything.


tennisfansince76 Says:

re Gordo alot depends on the draw no? it will depend. at AO 2009 nhe got a really good draw. first tough match was semis 5 sets and then finals. he did well. but can he get thru 3 or 4 tough matches in a row. it will be hard. we have to see the draw. last year I thought he had a great draw. Gasquet, Almagro, gonzalez, Monfils untl the semis where he met a top shelf hard court player in good form and good health in Delpo and got manhnadled.


jane Says:

tennisfansince76 “death penalty for that pun Mary carillo!” – LOL on this one. Mary’s often trying to be clever, but it comes out silly. : )

Fish has come SO close now to winning a Masters on hard courts: versus Roddick and Fed at Cincy, and Nole at IW. But each time he’s been “just” short. Hopefully one day, like Ljub did earlier this year, Fish can get one.


blank Says:

It will be interesting to see whose half Murray lands in at the USO. Looks like he’s got the best shot of taking out either of the top 2.


tennisfansince76 Says:

yes blank i think so too. he played some monster tennis at Toronto in both the semis and the finals. as long as he doesn’t disappear like he did last year at the USO.


tennisfansince76 Says:

yes blank i think so too. he played some monster tennis at Toronto in both the semis and the finals. as long as he doesn’t disappear like he did last year at the USO.


Andrew Miller Says:

I agree with Ben – Fed is not at his prime – but he’s playing as well as we’ve seen him since the Aussie Open win (not as well as he played in that match, but as well as he’s played since Indian Wells at least). Certainly a threat to win the Open, maybe even the favorite.

Who else could make a splash? Andy Murray for one – his exit early gives him more prep time for the Open. Nadal for another – he’s a different player in the slams and two semifinal appearances in the last 2 US Opens is nothing to be ashamed of; probably Berdych and that would be it I think.

I’d like Fish to make a big run, or Roddick to win the whole thing (or Baghdatis!) but the odds are on Murray, Federer, Berdych or Nadal as THE contenders in my opinion going into the Open.


steve Says:

@Ben Pronin: there’s no question that the days of 11 titles a year are over, but even in his latter career, Federer can still produce the vintage stuff on occasion. Certainly often enough to win several big titles a year, including the majors.


tennisfansince76 Says:

thx Jane. Carillo lost it years ago.


blank Says:

@ tennisfansince76:

Yes that’s been his problem. Both times he reached the finals at GS, he has run out of gas. I am not sure if it’s the nerves or fatigue or bit of both. Definitely Fed played well, but Murray certainly did not play up to his potential on those occasions. But this time again, I am confident about his chances of getting to the finals though.


grendel Says:

it’s weird how Federer can be kind of outplayed (as he was in the 2nd set), then take the tiebreak with a magisterial performance – and then back to picking and poking in the 3rd. This is not a criticism. The guy won, so presumably he knows what he’s doing. But for the rest of us, ther’s something pretty mysterious going on.

All one can do is guess: perhaps Federer realised he was in imminent danger of going down whilst at the same time he particularly wanted to win (not always true, actually; nobody wants to lose, but there are definitely degrees of wanting to win). This fear then released Federer from his shackles – he started to play instinctively; cannot be done on command, this, I wouldn’t have thought – otherwise, you could always do it. So something pretty primitive in Fed’s psyche got him going. But then, come the 3rd set, the growling beast disappeared back into the subconscious, and the tentative, curiously uneasy Federer re-emerged. All this may be pure bullshit, of course. But a chap’s got to try and understand what’s going on, eh?

They call it winning ugly, don’t they, so this was an encouraging win by Federer. If he can make it to the semis and the final, I think we’ll see a very different Federer from today. And that will be partly due to the confidence instilled in him by winning against a player playing at the top of his form. You can’t praise Mardy Fish too much – somebody called him a “journeyman”; that is beyond ludicrous. Fish is a very talented player, and more than one occasion he turned a classy shot from Federer into a surprising winner of his own. That takes somebody special.

“players today don’t hit low volleys consistently as they used to have to. most volleys are high put aways or drop volleys of out of position loopers. its simply not a big part of the game today. edberg and rafter were masters of the low volley. they could take low volleys and put them deep w/ good force and direction.” (tennisfansince76). I’m not sure I understand this. It’s obviously a good move to put the ball low over the net so that the oncoming player is faced with a difficult volley or half-volley. You don’t see it that much, because after all it’s diffcicult to do, but certainly you see it, and a great player needs to be able to handle such balls – if he can. My guess is (please educate me those who know) that to be able to handle volleys like that takes a great deal of time and practice: therefore, other parts of a player’s game suffer through neglect. So it becomes a matter of choice. It’s rare to see a great baseliner who’s also a great volleyer – Federer hasn’t earned that accolade yet, imo, though he yet may do. Who has? Henin?


David Says:

Maybe this year’s USO could be like the 2007 summer. That time Fed barely lost Montreal but got revenge in the USO. That would be sweet if Fish got revenge on Fed in the USO final.

OK, the chance of that happening is slim to none, but…


David Says:

I’m still sticking with:

1. Fed
(big gap)
2. Roddick
3. Murray
4. Fish
5. Sod/Berdych

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