Murray, Nadal, Nalbandian Face Tough Tests Today at US Open; Clijsters v. Ivanovic Also
by Sean Randall | September 5th, 2010, 10:39 am
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The matchups really start to get interesting today at the US Open in both the men’s and women’s brackets. In men’s third round action it’s Stan Wawrinka v. Andy Murray, Rafael Nadal v. Gilles Simon, Fernando Verdasco v. David Nalbandian and Sam Querrey v. Nicolas Almagro.

The women’s ticket is highlighted by a fourth round clash between two No. 1s, Ana Ivanovic and Kim Clijsters. Venus Williams also faces Shahar Peer and Francesca Schiavone meets the surging Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova.

First to yesterday, which turned out to be a relatively routine day with very little in the way of surprise and suspense. Mardy Fish’s win over Arnuad Clement was the only 5-set match of the session. Roger Federer, Novak Djokovic, Robin Soderling, Jurgen Melzer and even Gael Monfils who beat Andy Roddick’s injured ouster, Janko Tipsarevic, all won handily.

The only “downer” was Kei Nishikori. Two days after his epic 5-hour win over Marin Cilic, Nishiroki was forced to retire with a groin injury against Alberto Montanes. It’s hard to recall a 20-year-old having more injury issues than Nishikori who can’t seem to go a month or two without incurring some sort of ailment.

For the women, the clock struck 12 for 18-year-old American Beatrice Capra who was fed the dreaded double bagel on Arthur Ashe by a merciless Maria Sharapova. Top seed Caroline Wozniacki also rolled dropping just one game. The two tennis princesses now collide Monday afternoon in an absolutely salivating matchup.

The lone upset on the day was Jelena Jankovic’s dismissal by Kaia Kanepi.

As for Sunday, it should be a terrific afternoon of tennis – sorry, I’m not enthralled by the night session.

Thus far Nadal hasn’t looked to me like a guy who can win this tournament. I thought he was pushed in both early round matches against Gabashvilli and Denis Istomin, two lower tier players. Today, the World No. 1 gets Gilles Simon who has a win over Rafa. But Simon is probably not in the same form as he was a few years ago when he beat Nadal in Spain (there are few players who have wins over Rafa in his home country, Gilles in one of them!). Plus the Frenchman’s mind may be elsewhere after becoming a father just yesterday. Congrats to Gilles.

While Nadal has looked vulnerable at times, Murray hasn’t. The Scot has taken care of business with brisk ease so far but I think that comes to an end today against Wawrinka. Murray leads their series 5-3 having won three straight including a most recent 5-set win at Wimbledon last year. I still think Murray gets through but this could go the distance as the pressure begins to build again on Murray.

In the match of the day (what a great match for Grandstand), Verdasco and Nalbandian tangle in a battle of two of the most streaky, hot-and-cold guys on the planet. And while Nalbandian seemed to resurrect his game over the summer, Verdasco’s faded. But the lefty has played well this week in New York and he did beat Nalbandian in their only meeting four years ago at Wimbledon. However, I’m liking David in this one. The US Open is arguably his best Slam – he won the juniors and was inches from reaching the final in 2003 – and he usually rises up to meet tough challenges like the one before him today.

Querrey and Almagro is another tough tussle, but I’ll take the American and I like John Isner over Mikhail Youhzny in four, maybe five sets. I’ll also pick Michael Llodra and Feliciano Lopez to win.

On the women’s side, I think Ivanovic pushes Clijsters but it’s still the Belgian in straight sets while Venus, Dementieva win and I’ll take AP to upset Schiavone.

Again today, the US Open is televised on CBS which did a good job yesterday. Tennis Channel will have the two night matches.

SUNDAY US OPEN SCHEDULE

Arthur Ashe Stadium 11:00 AM
Ana Ivanovic(SRB) vs. Kim Clijsters(BEL)[2]
Shahar Peer(ISR)[16] vs. Venus Williams(USA)[3]
Rafael Nadal(ESP)[1] vs. Gilles Simon(FRA)

7:00 PM
Mikhail Youzhny(RUS)[12] vs. John Isner(USA)[18]
Samantha Stosur(AUS)[5] vs. Elena Dementieva(RUS)[12]

Louis Armstrong Stadium 11:00 AM
Francesca Schiavone(ITA)[6] vs. Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova(RUS)[20]
Sam Querrey(USA)[20] vs. Nicolas Almagro(ESP)[14]
Andy Murray(GBR)[4] vs. Stanislas Wawrinka(SUI)[25]

Grandstand 11:00 AM
David Nalbandian(ARG)[31] vs. Fernando Verdasco(ESP)[8]
Feliciano Lopez(ESP)[23] vs. Sergiy Stakhovsky(UKR)
Tommy Robredo(ESP) vs. Michael Llodra(FRA)


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509 Comments for Murray, Nadal, Nalbandian Face Tough Tests Today at US Open; Clijsters v. Ivanovic Also

funches Says:

Agree with most of your picks, but I’ll be very surprised if Lopez beats Stakhovsky. Lopez had to break to stay in the match during the fourth set of his last match against a qualifier who is not as good as Ryan Harrison.

If Stakhovsky is healthy, he wins and Rafa, assuming he gets by the pesky Simon, who also played him very close the year he won the Australian Open, will face his third New Haven contender in the first four rounds.


jane Says:

“the Frenchman’s mind may be elsewhere after becoming a father just yesterday. Congrats to Gilles.”

Wow, congrats to Simon. You’re right;he may have his mind on other things.

I thought Istomin played really well in the Rafa match for the two final sets, and given that he is ranked 39 I don’t see him as “lower” so much. Maybe inexperienced though.


Sean Randall Says:

I know Lopez also went five sets in the prior round, but I think here Stakhovsky has to be feeling some fatigue after his New Haven title.

I hope Simon can make a match of it. A 100% in-form Simon can certainly push Nadal, but under the circumstances (new baby) it’s hard to gauge where his head is at.


Gannu Says:

Clijsters vs Ivanovic.. great match.. happy to see Ivanovic playing so well..After a long time seeing a good ladies match…


Kimmi Says:

kim and ana looks to be a good match


guy Says:

nalbandian seems to have brought his game today…let’s see


Kimmi Says:

I am trying to get a streaming for nalby vs verdasco and so far nothing!


jane Says:

Kim breaks; I think she’ll win in straights, but I agree with Gannu that it’s nice to see Ivanovic on her way back.

Kimmi – i was wondering the same about margot – where’s she been?


Kimo Says:

WOW, Ivanovic looks, dare I say it, composed!!!


jane Says:

Sean, you forgot to mention Ferrer out there on Court 11 quietly making his way; I don’t even know whose section of the draw he’s in but he’s been playing pretty well. Also I am curious as to whether you watched the Nadal v. Istomin match? Istomin is really a player on the rise I’d think. He displayed some great talent the other night.


Von Says:

Hopefully Kim,Venus and Dementieiva can win their matches.

Looking for a Nalby win vs. Verdasco. I think Nalby is in better form than Verdasco, and would be happy to see him win.

If anything, Simon’s baby could give him some added incentive to win, so Rafa might be in for a tough battle, except that simon has been having health issues. I hope Rafa comes through this one.

Sam should take Almagro quite easily, but Murray/Wawrinka is somewhat iffy.Could today be a day of upsets for one of the top four?

I agree with Funches, Stakhovsky will most probably win. Lopez is not the epitome of fitness, stamina and/or endurance.


Kimmi Says:

hmmmm, that was quick. Kim is very serious.


Kimmi Says:

ferrer if he wins will play nalbandian next jane. then the winner of that will play nadal.

nalby/verdasco has very long games that have gone to duece in all 3 service game so far.


guy Says:

how many break points can david save….


guy Says:

streaming for nalbandian
http://atdhe.net/


Kimmi Says:

thanks guy, I found it eventually. Ivanovic lokks demoralized..she played better on her previous matches. I guess it is the opponent


Kimo Says:

Oh no. Another Ivanovic meltdown.


Kimmi Says:

ivanovic about to be bageled in this second set..oh noo! i was expecting this match to be closer than this.

maybe she can break back here


guy Says:

in some ways streaming is getting harder than the days i used to use starsports and other asian channels
now there’s all these bad quality streams from dodgy websites hard to find good stuff
i used bet365 quite a lot this year, found atdhe by chance during cinci masters and it’s been good for the usopen so far


Kimmi Says:

she is about to break back..kim has gone walk about in this game


guy Says:

david struggling every serve game …


Kimo Says:

Ivanovic doesn’t look bad. It’s just that she doesn’t look like a former no.1. With her current form she can make a good to 30 player, which isn’t bad considering how mentally fragile she is.


Kimo Says:

I meant “top 30″.


jane Says:

Thanks Kimmi – hmmm, if Nalby can get by Hotsauce (which is looking questionable since he’s having a tough time on his service games already) then Ferrer will likely await, and he’s a nemesis of Nalby’s to a degree.

Well at least Ana got on the board second set. Kim in the defending champion here, and Ana is only just beginning to string together wins again, so I was not expecting too much from her in this match. However it’d've been nice if she could’ve made this a little more competitive.


Kimmi Says:

berdasco break nalbandian, looks like verdasco has this match. nalby istruggling to hold all his games so far


guy Says:

ivanovic’s serve is terrible for a girl 6′
and david’s serve is terrible right now. 48% first serves won. it’s early days but i can’t see him winning at the moment, even though there are flashes


Kimo Says:

jane, surprisingly Ana IS making it competitive. The scoreboard may not show it, but she’s going toe-to-toe with Clijsters on rallies.

She’s still not where she needs to be, she’s nowhere near the level of current top 10 players, but she’s much better than she was last year, which isn’t saying much, but it’s a start.


Von Says:

C’mon David, please don’t lose this match.


Kimmi Says:

wow, that was quick and easy for clijsters. nalbandian will be following soon. he seem to slow for some reason


margot Says:

kimmi, jane: Hi! Lots of family stuff going on at the mo., all good, but means I haven’t seen any matches yet! Top 4 looking good though, haven’t lost a set yet have they? And, what’s this? There’s little Richard charging up on the outside lane.. I’d pick him against Monfils unless he suddenly realises he could win the whole damn thing and gets thse cold feet…
kimo: Monfils was all set to win a junior grand slam slam but guess who stopped him at the USOPen? Why t’was Andy Murray!
tennisfan76: Jon Stewart is a big hit in our house, especially during US election but he was brilliant about Brown too.
grendel: agree tennis world needs US, just like Ryder Cup does, US needed to win last one to keep US interest.
BTW Andy is 5-1 against Delboy, was DB “exhausted” in other four too? Bro yuse dissing my man here. Respect!


van orten Says:

i enjoyed watchin the murray vs brown match the other day…
the commentator (jose luis klerk) said something about the jamaicans game style and variety.

about the attempt attacking murrays first serve he said:
chip and charge on first serve? not even sampras did something (crazy) like that

it was very funny


Kimmi Says:

margot – nice to hear from you. muzza is on today..he better win, hey?


Von Says:

margot: “kimo: Monfils was all set to win a junior grand slam slam but guess who stopped him at the USOPen? Why t’was Andy Murray!”

I thought so, but then I saw a poster state on the previous thread that Mondils was a former Juior USO champion. Thanks for clarifying that because for a moment I thought I was having a senior moment.


jane Says:

hey margot – glad to hear you’re well and enjoying family things. Hope Murray keeps trucking along! Maybe you’ll get to watch some matches soon.

Kimo, I know what you’re saying about rallies, but 1 and 2 is just not as competitive, in terms of results, as I’d've liked to see. Ivanovic just couldn’t hold onto her serve enough. But yes, she’s slowly coming back. Which is good.


margot Says:

Yes kimmi he will Andy’s playing gr8! Sean seems to think Warinka will be trouble but Perfui say!
BTW some very nice pics on guardian sport of Brown’s dreadlocks, Istomin’s splits and AM of course!


margot Says:

jane: Hi! Yes, will catch Andy’s match and hopefully the French battle. The tennis gets a lot more interesting from now on in anyway.


guy Says:

warinka is one of those players with an excellent all round game who just can’t seem to play consistently throughout the year.


jane Says:

margot, indeed. How’s your bracket doing?


jane Says:

guy, true about Wawrinka – and he can play well on all surfaces too. But not only is he not consistent all year but sometimes he’s not consistent within a match itself and thus loses ones he shouldn’t. He did break into the top ten a couple of years ago, proof of his quality. Still, hope Murray gets through in straights.


Kimmi Says:

mmm, my bracket is going to fall. i did not have verdasco anywhere, he seem to be in control of this match today. nalby struggles on every serve game.

We will see.


Kimmi Says:

venus with her dresses, she is never comfortable


margot Says:

jane: my bracket :))..I was up to 800th at one point, now I’m falling like a meteor to earth! I was completely and totally wrong in Roddick’s bit. However, it’s really good fun and it does add a little something- humility probably!


Skeezerweezer Says:

Is that a dress or an evening gown?


guy Says:

i’ve never really forgiven murray for choking so bad in his two slam finals, esp after having an incredible record over federer going into these matches.

nalbandian might actually win this set even though he’s playing pretty bad


jane Says:

Kimmi, yeah, I think a lot of us were thinking – based on their form going into this – that Nalby would fare better than Hotsauce. But it’s the same with Roddick and Isner; Isner was injured so some of us didn’t pick him, whereas Roddick had done so well at Cincy. It’s really tough to know who to pick!! Anyhow, you are doing much better the me.

I wouldn’t rule Nalby out just yet; sometimes he’s a slow starter. He may come around.


jane Says:

margot “it does add a little something- humility probably!” LOL, precisely. Ha!

Kimmi, how true. It seems Venus is always tugging at something. I am surprised she’s wearing so many sparkles.


guy Says:

nalbandian sat down and it was out…haha


Kimmi Says:

hahaha crazy game to serve for the second set for nalby. glad he was able to pull it thru. 0ne set all.


zinaldo Says:

Nalby needs to stop going towards this one dimensional forehand basher verdasco as he seems to be able to get the ball back a lot better than he does with his rubbish 2 handed backhand.

I really question these players psyche sometimes,don’t they notice a pattern in which they win and lose points during the course of the match.

Won the second set but he is going to have to maybe play a 5 setter match and that never bodes well whenever you a bull and a runner like nadal next up.


blank Says:

Verdy/Nalby match has 5 sets written all over it. One of these would probably meet Ferrer who will give either of these a severe run around and probably lost still. That means, the winner will be totally spent when they face Nadal in the quarters, where I believe he will just devour one of them like a snack. Things looking great for Nadal. If Murray can’t stop him, I guess no one else can.


guy Says:

verdasco’s forehand is entertaining


blank Says:

Looks like the wind is slowly starting to rear up its head again.


grendel Says:

margot – I think you’ll find that when Murray won junior US Open, Monfils was not playing (injury).
Zinaldo, just because Verdasco probably has the hottest fh on tour, when it’s functioning, doesn’t make him a ball basher! He’s an amazing player, as is Nalbandian of course – but it’s one of those matches where neither are often playing well together, so it seems scrappy and hasn’t yet fulfilled the hopes most of us perhaps had of it.
Blank, it’s true, this looks like 5 setter, then the terrier Ferrer – what will be left for Nadal to gobble up?


blank Says:

Apparently Ivanovic/Clijsters and Schiavone/Pavlyuchenkova matches are more important than Verdy/Nalby – the guys get thrown into grandstand while the other two enjoy bigger stadiums and better TV coverage. USTA should hire more people with tennis knowledge to run these events.

I give them props for at least scheduling some of the men’s matches in the evening session before the ladies.


NELTA Says:

Ferrer is quietly making his way through the draw. I wouldn’t be surprised if he beats Verdasco or Nalbandian in the R16.


tennisfansince76 Says:

anyone looking for streams? why not do it directly off the us open website. they have been streaming most of the matches in good quality.


blank Says:

grendel – That’s why Nadal will gobble them up like a snack :-)

He needs to wait until the last two matches to have a chance to make it a feast. I just hope Federer is not on the menu then. Or if he is, I hope he gets to enjoy the feast. But looking at the odds, I wouldn’t bet against Rafa this year.


guy Says:

i would love the usopen streams, unfortunately they don’t work in my zone…thankgod for pirates

years ago, after nalbandian won shanghai and during his Oz open run i honestly thought he’d be consistent top 4, but after years of false hopes and injuries i kind of let him go…now we’re still friends so to speak, but i’m not really emotionally attached. i think it’s healthier this way.


grendel Says:

a real fun game between Peers and Williams, with umpteen deuces, which Peers finally clinches to take ‘em into a tie break.


guy Says:

massive forehand to break


jane Says:

But grendel, didn’t you just know after all those deuces that Peer would lose the tiebreak? That’s how I felt and indeed the tiebreak was fairly one-sided.

Anyone know – did Monfils win a USO in juniors or didn’t he? I know he won all three of the other slams as a junior.


jane Says:

margot, I just checked and was surprised to find out that Murray beat none other than Sergiy Stakhovsky to win the USO juniors Championship in 2004.


jane Says:

Hotsauce is running away with it now. Nalby is out of steam.


margot Says:

grendel: am being a bit pedantic, but didn’t say Andy had beaten him, was merely re-butting kimo’s claim that Monfils was USOpen junior champ. In fact Andy beat Sergiy Stakhovsky.


margot Says:

jane: we are of one thought!


tennisfansince76 Says:

Guy sounds like a dysfunctional relationship! I am glad you were able to let go. he just wasn’t right for you.


tennisfansince76 Says:

we haven’t had that one night match w/ brings the tourney alive yet. maybe in the qtrs. hopefully not Fed/Sod!


margot Says:

Wikepedia says he never won USOpen, but won all others. Amazing junior but according to Goodall was much taller than everyone else! Don’t know if this is true!


guy Says:

nalby
winners 24
errors 63

that’s pretty bad lol


tennisfansince76 Says:

pour a little hotsauce on the USOpen.


tennisfansince76 Says:

I hate wind. I hated it when i played. I hate watching tennis played in it. its time for Earl to clear out and leave us w/ some nice tennis weather.


Sean Randall Says:

So much for Nalbandian. He’s hot, he’s cold. He’s cold again.

It looks like we are guaranteed a Spaniard in the semifinals.


guy Says:

@tennis fan
yeah, there’ll always be something there i suppose. the hours we spent together…quite a few actually.


jane Says:

margot, yes, that’s what I saw too on Monfils, but on the other thread someone had mentioned that he won the USO so I wasn’t sure.

Well, that’s all she wrote for Nalby. Congrats to Hotsauce; I guess next up is an all Spanish affair with Ferrer, and then likely another with Rafa.

The Spanish and French have really done exceptionally at this slam thus far.


margot Says:

grendel: forgot 2 say Blake has had major back problems, scoliosis I believe, and has had horrible operations. If you look at him his posture is really strange. You’ve got to admire him, haven’t you?


blank Says:

Sean,

You know who that guaranteed Spaniard is going to be. So just name him. This is beyond your jinxing capabilities :)


margot Says:

blank: whoa there, careful…:)


grendel Says:

not a 5 setter, then. The last game somehow characterised the match. Verdascoe, serving it out, was wobbling a bit, as he does, and then at love 30, Nalbandian was nicely in control of the point (with admittedly some sterling defence from Verdasco – easy to overlook that in this aggressive player, he actually has a sound defence)when he just blew it quite unecessarily. After that, Verdasco stood firm. He deserved to win, and if Ferrer doesn’t detain him for too long, he might give Nadal something to think about.

tennisfansince76 @1:55 – I like it.


blank Says:

margot, I think only Andy Murray has a chance to stop that guy :)


grendel Says:

margot – thanks for info on Blake. Yes, he is indeed admirable.


blank Says:

Venus need to get over the stinginess and add few more inches to that dress before her next match.


margot Says:

blank: whoa there..what your jinxing capabilities like ? :)


paula Says:

I hate watching and playing in the wind, too. Although it’s impressive to watch how well some of the players handle the wind, manage to hit through it.

Poor Ana- she almost didn’t kiss the other side of Kimmy’s face she was in such a hurry to get off the court.

Super Sad about Nalby. And I do love Verdasco…just love Nalby even more. And that cracks me up – to the person who got over it–that someone managed to temper their love for him…I have not. I want him to win a major before he leaves us forever. Guga could not come back after hip surgery, but Nalby really has..as Hewitt has more or less, too…but my hopes for Nalby continue. Watching him win Madrid and Paris two weeks in a row, beating Nadal Fed and Nole both weeks (pretty sure that’s right)….he’s just so brilliant so often…I watched him bagel Robredo a few weeks ago in Toronto- it was flawless ball striking. Sigh.


Ike Says:

grendel, margot,

health issues aside, from pure tennis and “winning ugly” perspective, James Blake never had that “winning plan” (against top 5 players). He is always all-guns blazing style guy. May be that’s his only strength and the reason he reached career high ranking of 4. But, I wish he had coach like Brad Gilbert and definitely he would have won more. It’s pity that he has only one ATP 500 title win, no masters, no GS semis. It’s a shame for the amount of talent he has (had).


blank Says:

margot – no picks from me, just hopes :)


jane Says:

Fed and Soda seem destined to meet in the QFs, as I can’t see Melzer or Montanes spoiling that one. I’d be quite surprised anyhow. It’s much muddier as to who will come out of Fish vs. Nole and Monfils vs. Gasquet. Those R16 matches are tough to call imo. Up top I am guessing Verdasco will beat Ferrer to get to the QFs, where likely he’ll meet Nadal. Simon could be tough for Rafa today (?), but then the following round I think Rafa should be able to beat either F-Lo or Staks. Verdasco, as grendel says, could give Rafa some trouble here; this is a faster court than the AO and we all remember the marathon there. Murray will likely have Querrey next, presuming he gets by Wawrinka, and then I’m thinking Isner may come though the Isner/Youz Robredo/Llodra section. Murray can beat Isner. I think Murray is good till the semis where he may or may not meet Rafa. This might be Murray’s best shot to win a slam yet!


grendel Says:

margot – regarding posture, it occurs to me that very few players besides Blake stand more or less straight instead of crouching to receive serve. Agassi is one – and he had chronic back problems. Murray is another – does he have a back problem? Or does he just prefer a stand up stance? What is the point of crouching anyway to receive, since the player always stands up at the last moment? Does it render him more mobile, more able to move rapidly to the right or left as occasion demands, or is it kind of psychological, to give a player a feeling of alertness?


tennisfansince76 Says:

re Guy ha ha. he was always a tease. and i hate to break it to you but you weren’t the only one. there were … others. hurry up Venus and let our biy Nadal out on court.


blank Says:

jane,

I just heard Mary Carillo say that Simon missed the birth of his child by progressing so much here and is not itching to go back home.

Like the commentators said, he’s probably going to be on the 6pm flight to Paris.


blank Says:

correction: “…and is now* itching to go back…”


Ike Says:

blank

did you notice, Venus is not keeping two balls with her while serving, just one and when she faults first serve, she gets the ball for second serve from the ball boys/girls, mostly i think because of that “great” “artist / singer” style dress. May be it’s just my opinion, but it MUST be a rule that tennis player keeps two ball with them while serving.
I think Wozniaki too needs to add couple inches to her dress.
I am not trying to morality police and we are not in Middle-East but still….gotta have some decency.


grendel Says:

Paula – I sympathise with your aspirations for Nalbandian, but I can’t see him winning a grand slam now. He’s come very close, hasn’t he, on 3 occasions – but, it was not to be. I think he can still pull out all the stops in a Masters tourney, though. Just when everyone has forgotten about him again, he’ll suddenly come storming through, unplayable.


blank Says:

Ike,

I agree with you on all your points.


Ike Says:

grendel, paula,

i think Nalby still has couple of years of good tennis left in him and hope he will win a grand-slam. I think his best bet might be Aussie open. Wimbledon / French open just seems out of question. USO probably is too fast for him


tennisfansince76 Says:

nice job Querrey. why he couldn’t be in Nadal’s draw
i don’t know. that would have been nice.


paula Says:

Yeah, I know my hopes for Nalby are probably unrealistic. And really- what a career he’s had. So- sigh- I should just be content I guess.

Regarding dresses- um- Stella McCartney dresses the Woz and- I own some of her stuff, I admit- but for the most part, it’s as if she actually doesn’t care if people are uncomfortable while playing tennis- she just cares about the “fashion”. And – Venus designs her own stuff and – I fear she doesn’t always do a good job. Some of it is nice looking and comfy- and then there are the whoopsies. That said, she’s playing so well-I think she could win this for the first time in nearly ten years…


tennisfansince76 Says:

Simon better show up ready for business. he is a pro after all. if it was going to be a problem he shouldn’t have come at all.


margot Says:

grendel: Andy doesn’t have an acknowledged back problem anyway. I do find it so interesting to watch them prepare to receive serve. Andy seems very still to me, just a little twirl of his raquet, others can’t stop moving, some of the Spanish have one leg way in front eg Lopez, why? When serving we’ve already mentioned Scharapova’s evil glance but Rafa’s got that too and Serena. Others hardly look at their opponent. Gr8 stuff.
ike: so agree about James and a decent coach. Also, for some reason, felt he was too nice. You gotta be mean haven’t you?


tennisfansince76 Says:

Ike. chances of Nalby winnning a GS at this pt are vanishingly low. he might construct a good run to the qtrs or semis. thats about the best I think he can do. he’s blown so many chances.


Ike Says:

jane

how is weather in Western Canada, after that heat wave and “busted” Hurricane Earl, we have this nice weather in New England.
re. Fed vs. Soda, can Soda beat Fed on hard court? i doubt it.
I think Rafa will beat Simon in straight sets.
I think Querrey will be “very tough” for Murray.


tennisfansince76 Says:

Ike Soda looked pretty damn good against Fed the last 2 sets at last years USO. if he plays like that he’s got a good chance.


blank Says:

margot,

Andy has an acknowledged problem. Below is an excerpt from his interview after the AO final. Maybe this explains his posture ;)

“… Q. The end of the tiebreaker you were touching your left hip. Was there a problem there or just tightness?

ANDY MURRAY: It’s not really a problem. It’s not really my left hip. It’s quite hard to explain. It’s more sort of my lower back is just stiff, like I had most of the tournament. It’s just where we play ‑‑ I wear cycling shorts, and sometimes they’re quite tight, so you need to ‑‑ you know, Roddick does it a lot, it’s kind of what Rafa does on his other side.

I don’t really know what I’m trying to say, but basically my hip is fine. It was just the cycling shorts were tight (smiling)…”


Ike Says:

margot

currently i am reading Winning Ugly by Gilbert, and wish Blake had some of that “nasty” attitude/tactics of Connors / McEnore / Lendl.
Blake is too nice of a guys, he wants to play fair and square, remember how upset he was at Olympics when Gonzalez didn’t play fair.


paula Says:

I just started giggling and thought we could all get in a fake really angry fight about Nalbandian…HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT ABOUT NALBANDIAN…HIS COUSINS DIED IN AN ELEVATOR, WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF THAT HAPPENED…hahaha

That said, I am going to admit this- I cried when he beat Fed in that year end masters thingy. I also kept the tivoed version of it on my Tivo for more than two years, although I never rewatched it. Anywway, I’m nuts and I know it.


margot Says:

blank: cheers, always thought the problem was his hip, his wrist, his knee etc ouch, ouch. However, this would support grendel’s point about the way he stands to receive. Dearie me, this boy alone ensures the health service makes a deficit…


jane Says:

Hi Ike, weather is Fall-like. Gearing up for Murray’s match? Hope it’s not too difficult. I think Fed plays some of his best tennis at the USO, so I don’t like Soda’s chances; that said, I think Soda can make it difficult for Fed, maybe take a set, or even two.

blank, of course – it’s the shorts.


Ike Says:

tennisfansince76

Thomas Johansson can win the Aussie Open at the age of 27, the field was bit weaker back then but thats the only reason i think he can win it there, if Nalby doesn’t have to face 3 of the top 8 players, he might be able to win a gs, otherwise it’s pretty much over for him


Ike Says:

grendel, blank, margot,

receiving the serve stance: standing upright vs. back bent, that’s interesting topic


Ike Says:

jane,

if Murray can beat Querrey, Isner, Rafa & Fed in a row in this USO, that would be great and that should give Murray a lot of confidence to win few more GS (i m guessing total 6)


paula Says:

I think the stance on return of serve is probably largely a matter of preference.

I stand like Lopez- one foot in front of the other- a does I think Kirilenko.

Some people have extreme stances. No one sticks their butt out and wags it as much as Kimmy Clijsters. I think its quite brave of her.


Ike Says:

paula

r u from Argentina?


Ike Says:

spectacular FH from Rafa


tennisfansince76 Says:

Paula Paula Paula. Nalby doesn’t really care about you. sure you shared a magical evening ( or whatever depending on what time zone you live in )back in Nov 2005. but I assure you it meant nothing to him. sure he romanced you w/ his awesome back hand on the rise but he’s used that on all the ladies.


jane Says:

blank, yes, I can see how Simon might want to get home to the new baby. On the other hand, if he’s winning matches in the final slam of the season, esp. after having almost a year hampered by injury, I suppose he’ll do his best to try to win again. That said, the fave is clearly Rafa.


paula Says:

No, I’m not from Argentina (I wish) but I spent six weeks there when I was in my 20s and recently returned with my family and had an amazing time there- we played tennis at the Vilas Club.

Also, I lived in Spain for a year- in Barcelona–when I was 18. So, I love all the South American and Spanish players….I’ve also family vacations playing tennis in Mallorca and the south of Spain…I’d love to retire there.


Ike Says:

paula,

while receiving serve i almost stand upright, with just a slight bend in the knees, personally i think too much back bend is wastage of energy and redundant.


margot Says:

ike: let’s take one match at a time, but yes, if Querry’s serve is on he’ll give Andy a tough one.
Perhaps James preferred being liked to winning? Certainly Mac didn’t give a shove did he?
Lopez has such a mannered, shorts catastrophe, sideways return that completely distracts me from the game and not in a good way either and yes, I do know his nickname is “Deliciano”…


paula Says:

tennisfan76-HAHAHA

Sigh. You’re right.


Ike Says:

paula

seems like u don’t have any love for Americans :(


Ike Says:

margot

re. Blake – may be race is the reason, being African American he might have felt more pressure to be a good guy, follow in Arthur Ashes’s footstep. Or may be as a person that’s the way he has been since he was kid


paula Says:

I like…Ginepri? But he is basically an Italian…

I don’t hate any of the Americans, for the most part…but, um, if I had to choose between cuddling with Feliciano Lopez or John Isner??? I mean, well, that’ sort of a no brainer. That said Isner makes good money, is a professional athlete and probably gets some lovely ladies to pay attention to him.


Ike Says:

paula

seems like u like Deliciano a lot :)


Skeezerweezer Says:

Rafa is going to have a very quick match if Simon continues to play this non aggressive style on HC……


Ike Says:

i don’t c Rafa – Simon match lasting more than 2 hours


Ike Says:

just a side note:
i was in Dick’s sporting good store yesterday, i noticed that in the Nike section there was big poster of Rafa and no one else. Sign of the times!


paula Says:

Feli is the ladies choice. As is Verdasco..and well- Ferrer, Nadal, I’d take Almagro….

Once, I was sitting in the hotel bar watching the Bag on TV after spending the whole day at the Canada Open and Lopez and Nadal came in. Nadal went straight up to the TV to check on the Bag..and Lopez stood in the door..
I said to Lopez
“Jueges Bien” (I had watched him lose that day)
He said
“gracias”

Then they left and I fell down on the floor screaming (all true but last part about screaming and falling)


Skeezerweezer Says:

Rafa tweener!!! Wait….uh…..nevermind


margot Says:

paula: not my choice and isn’t he a “love rat” as the charming UK tabloids would say?
But a gr8 story! Attagirl!


paula Says:

I think Simon and Chardy are heroin addicts and that is why they are so skinny. And they turned Mardy Fish onto smack and now that is why he’s so skinny, too.


paula Says:

Or all three are on the aqua teen hunger force’s Bronx Parasite Diet.


Ike Says:

paula
good for you


Ike Says:

paula
i m guessing u r 200 lbs and wish u were skinny 100 lbs.
LOL


paula Says:

Margot- I think there’s some story about Feli knocking up his girlfriend who is older than him (Like that) and she’s this former Miss Spain and of course crazy beautiful- but the pregnancy was a booboo-and all sorts of problems about it- they broke up, so on

That said- cuddle? Just a cuddle???


jane Says:

Ah Staks retired, so Lopez is through to the R16. Murray’s pushing for the early break here; come on Murray!


paula Says:

Actually Ike, I weigh 130 pounds. Thanks to the Bronx Parasite Diet.


Ike Says:

margot, paula,
i don’t watch any of Hollywood / tabloid / gossip shows. not sure if they use the “love rat” in America.


i am it Says:

Jane,
In the past you would hesitate, but now you have gotten bolder in predicting department. Good for you.
I hope you don’t mind my running through your list:
(1) Fish vs. Nole and Monfils vs. Gasquet. 50-50% (Fish and Monfils may have slight edge here)

(2) Verdasco def. Ferrer, (I give Ferrer slight edge, though they have not played on hard since 2004).

(3) Simon could be tough for Rafa today (Nope, another straight set win for Rafa).

(4) F-Lo vs. Staks. Mute. (F-Lo wins)

(5) Murray def. Waw and Querrey (Maybe, you are right here)

(6) Isner def. Youz and the winner of Robredo/Llodra (I don’t see that happening, but would like Isner advancing).

(7) Murray def. Isner. (Easy)

(8) I think Murray is good till the semis. (Yes).

(9) Murray may or may not meet Rafa. (I am sure he will).

(10) This might be Murray’s best shot to win a slam yet! (This one is the toughest of the 3 years).


Ike Says:

“Actually Ike, I weigh 130 pounds. Thanks to the Bronx Parasite Diet.” good for you!


fed is afraid Says:

i want rafa to win.
then murray
then novak


Ike Says:

i am it & jane,

good predictions…here is my two cents.

Fish WILL beat Nole if the match is in the day 1:00 pm and if temp is north of 80 deg. F.
But if the match is at 7 pm, Nole WILL win it.

And i think it will not be eazy for Murray to beat Isner


jane Says:

Hi i am it – yeah, I took a shot; thanks for your response. Why do you say this is “the toughest of the 3 years” for Murray? Draw? Or form? Or Fed? ; ) What?

Also, whom do you see coming out of Isner’s section if not Isner?

Ferrer over Verdasco? Hmmm… I guess it depends a lot on Verdasco who is the more volatile player in that match up.


i am it Says:

correction to (10): This year is not less tougher for Murray than it was in 2008.


Ike Says:

fed is afraid

almost agree with you re. who should win USO but Murray would be first on that list though.


margot Says:

ike: equivalent of “love rat”? Must be one.
jane: isn’t Wawrinka beefy? He makes Andy look like a waif! Seems mighty hot out there.
paula: a cuddles OK but where might it lead??? ;)


Ike Says:

good rally


montecarlo Says:

Wawrinka is playing out of his mind right now, I wonder how long he can hold it together?


i am it Says:

I think Isner will lose to Youz. Not sure who will come out of there. Llodra is hot, but he is a French.


margot Says:

And beefy boy breaks! Uhoh, too close this will be. Don’t think my nerves will stand it!!
Was gonna say, have there been more retirements than usual this Open? Anyone know?


jane Says:

Djoko is 4-0 over Fish; however, Mardy is reborn and by all accounts is playing perhaps his best tennis at the moment. Their match is already scheduled for 12:30 tomorrow afternoon when it’s predicted to be anywhere from 24-28 degrees C so not super hot. I don’t think day or night should really be a factor if it’s not super hot. The crowd could really help Fish, though, if he gets on a roll. And Djoko can sometimes get rattled by crowds. Last night he was good though. I don’t know who’ll win. I still say 50/50, perhaps with a slight edge to Fish since he’s got a more solid serve and will have the crowd willing him to come through. I hope Nole can serve like he did last night versus Blake.

Okay – meanwhile – wake up Murray!! Come on and get the break back!


margot Says:

jane: went to 5 at Wimbles didn’t it? Come on Andy!


jane Says:

margot – yes, Wawa is stocky. He seems very solid. His tennis, however, is streaky sometimes. He can be phenomenally good in patches but I expect (and hope!) he’ll come down to earth at some point and Murray should be ready to pounce when he does.

I know, i am it – the Isner section is a tough one to call. Maybe Robredo? Someone with a good return or a good tiebreak record will have to take out Isner. Otherwise, I still see John coming through. Murray did a great job at the AO this year of neutralizing his serve; I think he could do that again, should they meet.


jane Says:

margot, I checked and it’s 24 C currently about 30% humidity, so not too hot. Presumably it feels different on the court always though. Yes, I think that match at Wimbledon did go 5 sets; they closed the roof at some point I think?


margot Says:

jane: beefy boy looks less fit than waif, hope so cos gosh he’s on a streak at the mo!


Ike Says:

i am it

r u serious / Russian?
There is NO WAY Youz can beat Isner! Not at USO. I guarantee that.


Ike Says:

jane

there is first time for everything, and Fish WILL beat Nole for the first time.


Ike Says:

come on Andy get the break.


Kimmi Says:

mmmm, murray, just got back and dont like what i see.c’mon murray


jane Says:

Come on Murray!! Get the break back!

Most definitely Ike; there is a first time for everything, and I think this may be Fish’s best shot: all the signs would suggest it – his game is on song, his fitness has never been better, he’ll have all the crowd support, he loves to play in the sun, he pushed Fed at Cincy, he’s confident, etc.

But what can I do? I am still holding out a little hope for Nole. If he loses, it’s not the end of the world. It’s just tennis. But it’d be nice if he could defend his points from last year.


Kimmi Says:

break..c’moooooon


Ike Says:

margot

just curious, do u like watching Wimbledon – quiet London crowd matches or USO – raucous NYC crowd matches?
Personally, i like USO, it’s lot more entertainment than robotic Wimby. No offense.


jane Says:

Good – Murray’s leveled it!


margot Says:

Hi kimmi! two things, Wawrinka is serving lights out but Andy is right in his serve, excellent! And second Andy being aggressive and when he’s aggressive he wins point Fingers crossed.
Am watching adhe stream, picture OK but commentary is Spanish. Must turn it down and listen to radio! They keep mentioning beefy boy’s name though, off putting!


Ike Says:

jane

it’s just matter of time to find out when will Nole lose? Definitely, he will not win USO (at least not this year, with that weak serve)


Ike Says:

margot

can u watch the live stream from USO web? or is it just for us/US? I totally like it, i can watch any of the live match, its awesome!


Kimmi Says:

why is muzza playing like that? he seem to be pushed back in this match…he needs to unleash those BH and FH


margot Says:

ike: you’ve just insulted queen and empire. Zounds man! I prefer it when folks cheer very loudly for Andy. You should’ve heard us at the 02!


Ike Says:

beefy guy got fooled :)


Ike Says:

margot

i mentioned Wimby, i was comparing Wimby and USO.
Definitely O2 arean and that environment is great. Thank god they don’t make players wear white dress at O2 arean :)


Ike Says:

margot

did u go to O2 arena last year?


margot Says:

ike: was recommended adhe also livescore hunter, which was rubbish. I tried USopen at one point but no joy.


Ike Says:

Kimmi

that’s why we need to have during-match, sideline coaching in tennis. (so someone could tell Andy to go big on shots)


jane Says:

Okay Murray hold! – looks like a first set tiebreaker.

Ike, I don’t think he’ll win the USO either. But Nole served great last night at least – not a lot of aces, but no double faults either, and he finished the match with 79% first serves in! That made a huge difference. The problem is this – was that a one off, or can he serve like that again, and consistently? I realize there’s a strong chance that he’s likely to lose to Fish, but I am still hoping anyway.


margot Says:

yes and am going this.


Ike Says:

margot

trust me the quality of USO web official streaming is great.


paula Says:

Stan the man is beefy. He’s fit I think, from what I’ve seen. Just a thick dude- sort of more football player looking than tennis.


Kimmi Says:

tie breaker, i dont like tie breaker..c’mon muzz


jane Says:

Tiebreak! (chews on nails).

Nadal with the break.


Ike Says:

jane,

that was against Blake and since it was windy i believe Nole had taken some pace off, not sure by how much. But, certainly he served lot better than his usual matches


i am it Says:

Murray will win this match, probably straight set.
As we look ahead into the semi and final, he will have to hit a lot more winners than what I have seen from him today. Currently, Wawa is ahead by double digits in winner count. Murray cannot afford to play a match in the opponent’s term. He needs to counter aggression with aggression, not with defense, whoever he is up against.


Ike Says:

paula

Wawrinka looks more like a rugby player than football or tennis :)


Ike Says:

Andy is playing unbelievable defense


jane Says:

Murray in utter control! Should be a breezy match from here on out. Hurray!

Okay Ike – you are the voice of reason. You’ve utterly squashed my hopes. Nole will lose. : /


Kimmi Says:

i am it – i agree. muzza is playing a little defensive today, i guess its because of the opponent..he is looping a lot of balls..

he definetly needs to step it up in the next round.


Ike Says:

margot

have you ever watched the movie Unforgiven – Clint Eastwood, Gene Hackman

you will enjoy it (especially the way Hackman treats the British guys over King / Queen / Prime Minister vs. President system :)


margot Says:

Yes! Take that beefy boy!
i am it: well, I think he is.


paula Says:

Ike- yeah, Rugby! Good call. He’s got that thug like look. That said, he’s Swiss, so I bet he’ a total gentleman.

Nole losing to Fish? Hm. I think the heroin abuse is going to catch up on him any minute and then Nole will win since he doesn’t do smack.


Ike Says:

jane

just so you know i m Nole fan!
i will root for him over Rafa, Murray, etc.
But i just hate the way he has handled his career, he is going no where. He should get a new coach, a coach who knows something about serve.


Ike Says:

paula

how do u know so much about smoking / drugs?
looks like u got some experience :)


margot Says:

ike: am huge movie fan and yes, have seen “Unforgiven.” My favourite Eastwood cow boy is Pale Rider but liked U v. much. Val Kilner plays a demented Doc Holiday, right?


Kimmi Says:

schedule for tomorrow is out. Roger/melzer night match. Novak/Fish just before 21:30pm

Sharapova/wozniacki to follow novak/Fish


Ike Says:

Rafa needs to win this set 6-2 or something like that, so that my prediction of this match not lasting more than 2 hrs. will come true.
Looks like Simon is heading in that direction


Kimmi Says:

I meant novak/fish just before 12:30pm not 2130pm lol


i am it Says:

Margot,
He did not until the last 3 games and tiebreak. As long as he can play like he did during that span, he should be fine.


paula Says:

Ike, I used to only date musicians- so yeah, drugs. I think heroin is really great if you have cancer or are hanging out with Jimi Hendrix or whatever but not so good for tennis. We need to stage an intervention for Mardy and Simon and Chardy.


Ike Says:

margot

re. Unforgiven
Richard Harris plays “English Bob”, it sounds very funny when Hackman pronounces Bob.


mat4 Says:

@Margot: try fromsport, and one of the links for “Querrey vs Almagro”. Despite the title, it’s Murray vs Wawrinka.

@Jane: I watched Fish against Clement, and, yes, Nole is not playing great, but he has the game to hurt Mardy: excellent return, great passing shot (just ask Blake), and he can have a lot of consistency from the baseline. I think that Nole baseline play will be the key. A low number of UE is essential, and it will give him enough confidence for the serve.

And let’s not forget that he is the better player.


paula Says:

Actually, all joking aside for a milisecond- I can’t see Fish beating Nole. But we shall see.


Ike Says:

margot

how about Last King of Scotland


Ike Says:

oh no paula

i m serious, Fish WILL beat Nole.
Fish is gonna have all the Labor Day Weekend American Patriotic crowd cheering for him.
And since now he is 30 lbs. he can chase down any ball on the court :)


Kimmi Says:

this is the round muzza lost last year. anything from here is a bonus. up a break in the second. GO GO GO


jane Says:

Interesing contrast in the top four; maybe this is old news, but it seems that both Fed and Nole are strong starters and then their games can go “off” a little, whereas Rafa and Murray are the opposite; they sometimes start slower but build into form and gain momentum as a match progresses. Of course I am speaking generally, but it does seem to be somewhat of a pattern.

Thanks for your input mat4! I don’t know that I hold out much hope anymore but we will have to wait and see what tomorrow brings.

Right now it looks like Rafa and Murray are trying to bake.


margot Says:

ike: brilliant! Wasn’t Amin truly, truly scary? I like James MacIlvoy v. much too.


paula Says:

I just had an image of Rafa and Muzza in my kitchen, wearing aprons, making pie.

Ike- I wish we could make a bet and it was legal too and I would win and you would have to give me a lot of money.


Ike Says:

well, it’s great outside, gotta go play some tennis.
Btw, i think my serve is faster than Rafa’s :)
i gotta check my serve speed somewhere


Ike Says:

paula

the bet is on … $100
Fish will win in 5 sets.


margot Says:

mat4: thanks, but it’s no good keeps freezing. adhe seems to work best for me. Cheers anyway.


jane Says:

Paula, nope – no baking for Murray after all; he’s been denied both a bagel and a bread stick by the beefy man. He could still bake something in a 3rd set perchance.

Rafa, meanwhile, has a breadstick in the oven, but will he get to have it for dinner?


i am it Says:

It is not that Nole cannot beat Fish. Besides getting the 1st serve above 70%, Nole will have to avoid short mid-court returns, play deep or angle, keep Fish behind the baseline (sand), so he can prevent the Fish jumping into water (inside the court). If you see this happening early on, keep your hope high, or else remain cynical.


Kimmi Says:

murray is letting wawa back in the match


jane Says:

Rafa will have to go out for pasta. Simon will be on the flight blank mentioned earlier.

Kimmi, yes, Murray needs to put the clamp down!


Ike Says:

paula

you should be glad that we can’t bet, otherwise you would lose so much money to me :)
just look at my predictions re. Rafa vs. Simon

Prediction 1 : Rafa will beat Simon in straight sets in less than 2 hours.
Prediction 2: Rafa will win the last set 6-2

right on the money.!


margot Says:

Yes, kimmi, jane, Andy making life difficult for him and us!! Come on!


ron Says:

How many times did the tedious commentators mention simon’s new born? 100? 200? blech!


grendel Says:

Murray hands back the break and then rages at himself. Why? It was so predictable, he’d got into Monfils mode, stroking the ball gently to various parts of the court and always allowing Warwinka a shot at first getting it back and then taking the iniative. I watched a bit of Nadal, and hard to say where he’s at since Simon never pushed him, but it was noticeable how aggressive Nadal would be when he needed it. He looked a more accomplished hardcourter than Murray. If Murray doesn’t change his tune, no hope against Nadal supposing he wins next two. But I guess he will – he knows he has to.


Kimmi Says:

what is murray doing..he is just looping the balls back….waiting for error or what!


Kimmi Says:

at last, there is a big FH..


paula Says:

Ron- we got so irritated with Courier and Austin last night that my fellow blogger, known as Rick Rock, blogged about their demise.


Kimmi Says:

this set that murray should have won i feel he is gonna lose. so bad. C’mon muzza


jane Says:

Come on Murray!! Pick it up. Only one point separating you two, so finish this tiebreak with a 2 set lead!!!

Meanwhile, keeping my eye on Llodra, who’s stormed back in the second set. He’s a revelation; who knew he’d do so well here. Kudos to kim; I am rooting for him to get the upset over Robredo.


jane Says:

Arrrrrrgh. Murray just lost his first set of the tournament. But he shouldn’t've.


Kimmi Says:

there goes the set. wawa did very well in that tie breaker. some big serve. great volleys. he deserve it.


jane Says:

Kimmi “he deserve it.” Yes but. It shouldn’t've gone to a tiebreak!! : /


Kimmi Says:

TWICE he was up a break jane..TWICE. I am really pissed. shoulda, woulda..doesnt matter now!


jane Says:

You’re right Kimmi. “Shoulda woulda” is pointless. Oh well, I hope Murray just stays focused in this 3rd set. Good start!


Nina Says:

Oh Andy, don’t panic, this match is yours to win. I love the drama, very entertaining match and Wawrinka is surprising me favorably. But I think Murray will prevail. He’s really pissed though, smashed his knuckles against the racket, they’re all bloody. The crowd is also very loud and crazy, who was that guy shouting “What time it is? It’s breaking time!” LOL.


grendel Says:

well, that’s funny, we were talking last night about the oddity of Blakes’s getting more winners that Djokovic – but in a way, this is stranger. Wawrinka takes the set – 11 winners, 11 errors. Murray loses – 13 winners, 9 errors. Silly Murray. Sometimes you think the only person who can truly beat him is himself.


margot Says:

Beefy boy bites back :( :(
grendel: you never said a truer word!


jane Says:

grendel “Sometimes you think the only person who can truly beat him is himself.” Yes, this! Also angry that Robredo won 2nd set. Really hoping for a Lordra win.


Kimmi Says:

murray is gone off the boil..what is going on? he is losing..


Nina Says:

Oh man, Nole is playing at the worst possible hour, I really hope the heat doesn’t bother him much. Yes, Fish is on a streak and he’s playing great tennis, but don’t forget that Novak is a much better player than him. That should count for something right? I’m positive that Nole will win, though it will be a tough match, but Nole can definitely handle tough. I guess it will depend on two things: Nole’s serve (if it is like yesterday’s, he is in no trouble at all) and his baseline game, he has to make little UEs.


i am it Says:

Wawa-Lundgren team is producing some good tennis and troubling Murray. The Scot will have to play a lot better to win his first Slam this year. You don’t get broken in love, after getting one in the previous game, and lose next service game. Stop giving up the set after losing a game. Fight.
Murray better restrain the overflow of his frustrations, before it is too late.


Nina Says:

It’s a tough moment for Murray, he’s gone from the match momentarily, but I have faith in him. He just had two aces, very rare for Murray. Go Andy!


jane Says:

It’s shady on most of the court now; maybe that’ll boost Andy’s energy and/or serve! Another foot fault call. Maybe it’s time they get the foot fault calls on Hawkeye. You’d think the call against Serena last year would be enough to get them thinking about it anyhow. This week after Roddick’s match there was a thing about it in the NY Times (I think it was), and they had interviewed the creators of Hawkeye technology, who said it would be “no problem” to get foot faults registered in the same system. I wonder if they’ll do it.

Okay Murray, HOLD, then break back.


Nina Says:

Murray is getting cramps, he’s too tense. Need to relax a little.


tennislover Says:

I hope Murray hasn’t dug too big a hole for himself. It is extremely frustrating to see him lose focus and indulge in passive play exactly when he should be taking the initiative.


Nina Says:

Stan getting cramps as well. My god, this match is crazy, but it’s too funny. I’m throughoutly entertained.


jane Says:

Now Wawa is cramping or something? Hamstring?


Kimmi Says:

wawrinka hurt something. he stopped playing in the middle of the game (40-15). must be something serious.

I dont believe it..you dont wish anyone to be injured but it could be a light in the tunnel for murray


jane Says:

Yep Wawa is getting his thigh taped so that’s not cramping. He must’ve pulled something. I think this shade should help Murray.


Kimo Says:

If Murray doesn’t reach the semi, should be smooth sailing for Rafa all the way to the final.


jane Says:

Well, is this going to become a battle of attrition? Now Wawa’s other leg needs taping? Is Murray hurting? Announcers I am listening to are saying Murray is “in pain.” I don’t know but Andy needs to get focused here and now.


margot Says:

Can’t watch any more of this. It’s back to the old passive, walkabout Andy. I am it was right.
See you guys tomorrow – hope it’s :) but all too likely :(


Y Says:

Yesss! He did it!


jane Says:

margot, will cheer loudly for both of us. “Come on Andy M, come back!!” Now Murray is seeing the trainer, and has to win two sets more! He can do it, though, I know he can; Nole did it in round one, coming back from two sets to one down. Andy can do it too.


Skeezerweezer Says:

ron,

It’s your own fault you watched that boring match, after rafa’s 1rst break in the 1rst, the writing was on the wall…and it wasn’t baby talk

out


margot Says:

jane: popped back if only for an instant. Andy getting trainer on is not good news. If he were to survive this, what state will he be in?
Also, his first serve has been right off, he always struggles then.
Cheer as loudly as u can jane and kimmi, yes just cupping hand to ear and can hear u…:)


Kimo Says:

Llodra retires. It’s a shame. He’s played really well.


Kimo Says:

WAarinka break early in the fourth!!!

If Murray doesn’t make it to at least the final in this US Open, I don’t see him winning a slam. This whole scenario has become all too familiar.


i am it Says:

Margot, I did not mean to be right.
I hope Murray wins, but it is not looking good at all right now. It is still too early to call the match. Lots of tennis to play.


jane Says:

Oh crap: now Llodra has retired – second retirement in a row for Robredo? That’s quite a few retirements: Nishikori, Llodra, Staks, Schwank, Benneteau, Dodig.


Kimo Says:

Murray is way too passive. The only reason he’s still in this match is because Stan can’t keep his UEs down.


jane Says:

Okay Murray, you can do it. Hold here. Hold!


grendel Says:

I sometimes think the trouble with Murray is a certain arrogance – he has a sense of hierarchy. He’s learnt how to beat Nadal and Federer, and so he doesn’t take someone like Warwinka altogether seriously. I genuinely believe that.That’s a bad mistake that neither Fed nor Nadal would make. Very difficult to pull yourself round from that attitude when things are going unexpectedly badly. Still, looks like Murray has finally got to grips….?


tennisfansince76 Says:

i can’t believe it. no tv coverage of the murray match. instead CBS has an infomercial for some golf retirement village on. unreal! maybe its on tennis channel.


Nina Says:

The match is completely open, one is breaking and the other is breaking back. The match is completely crazy, but it’s been a while I had so much fun… Go Andy! This is yours to win!


jane Says:

Murray’s coming back now. Yes. Definitely. A momentum shift is in the air…


tennisfansince76 Says:

Querrey could give Nadal a fight. he will have to serve hard and hit big and maintain his concentration at a high level. if Murray loses Querrey will have a great shot at a SF berth.


dari Says:

At the Murray wawrinka match, stab playing really well and Murray almost, almost getting it together again. let’s hope he gets it to a fifth!


tennislover Says:

I don’t know if that is the case. Stan always seems to trouble Murray for some reason.


tennisfansince76 Says:

lucky you Dari.


tennisfansince76 Says:

muuray just ran around a FH. bad idea.


tennisfansince76 Says:

murray’s play right now reminds me of that Curtis Mayfield tune “Mr. Pusherman”


tennisfansince76 Says:

murray and Nadal are 1-1 at GS this year. if Murray and Nadal made the SF’s it would be the rubber match on the best surface for murray. if murray blows this i will never forgive him.


tennisfansince76 Says:

the light is fading.


Ben Pronin Says:

Cmon Murray, it’s not over!!


tennisfansince76 Says:

triple BP to go up 2 breaks up 2 sets 1? how do not win one of those pts. coffee is for closers


tennisfansince76 Says:

medical to?!?! get out of here!


tennisfansince76 Says:

its not over Ben but Murray’s play does not inspire confidence today


Kimmi Says:

aaaaaaaaaaarrrrggg..not looking good


tennisfansince76 Says:

bad bad bad murray


tennisfansince76 Says:

the problem is Murray is making lots of UEs off of shots where he is not really trying to do much


tennisfansince76 Says:

one more nail in the coffin


Kimmi Says:

can’t watch..


jane Says:

Come on Murray! Hold again, then only 1 more chance to level this match.

If Murray loses today and Nole loses tomorrow, for whom will I root? Hmmmm….What if scenarios: Fed’s 17th (best bet)? Rafa’s career slam (second best bet)? A surprise like Gasquet or Monfils? Perhaps Soderling? Sam? Fish? Humph. Don’t know. Guess I’ll wait and see what happens.

On the bright side, Murray lose no points if he goes out today. But that’s not bright enough. : /

But let’s not go there yet! Break back Andy M!


Dan Martin Says:

Murray is killing me but Stan has competed well and played the way he needed to to force Murray to play his best. That is Stan’s job.


Kimmi Says:

match point


jane Says:

FIGHT Murray; don’t give up. Make him try to serve it out!!


Kimmi Says:

another match point..stan oh nooo!


tennisfansince76 Says:

ahhhhhhhhh


PrettyPaula Says:

I have missed the match…what is wrong with Murray? Or has Wawrinka just taken it to him?


tennisfansince76 Says:

Murray fans i feel your pain :(


Kimo Says:

Andy just loves to disappoint, doesn’t he?


Kimmi Says:

game set match..

MUZZA..no comment

Congrats to wawrinka


Nina Says:

Oh Andy, this wasn’t in the script. If Nole loses tomorrow, I’ll retire from the slams.


Dan Martin Says:

Nadal is looking better and better. Murray and Nalbandian are gone. Is anyone left on his side of the draw that can realisticalloy hurt him? Sam Q to the semis? Stan W.?


Duro Says:

Attackingtennisrules is a name of a poster on Tennistalk site. It says all…

Amen to that.


fed is afraid Says:

too bad, i want to see murray win his first slam, but now it is time for rafa to win his first uso


jane Says:

:’ ( margot!

Wawa played really well; he was zoning in some of those rallies, making incredible shots; have to give him credit, as Dan Martin said. So congrats to him (and to Fot).

So sad for Murray though; I don’t know what happened, but he was just not feeling it today. Something like an injury maybe? Will read his presser. It’s too bad because other than Rafa in the semis I really thought his draw was a good one for him. Drag.

Was it Polo who talked about the Corretja curse? Well he was in the stands today. : /


margot Says:

Just popped back and there you go just knew it! Kimo, grendel, tennisfansince76, agree with you all. AAHH!! indeed. Andy lost for many reasons but primarily his blessed serve AGAIN! Stan served 13 aces, Andy 5 and that horrible, vulnerable second serve! Sort it out!
He needs to promise less and deliver more!
:( :( :(


sonic Says:

Murray has some bad luck in NY, he was injured vs Cilic as well. But you have to think that a player that is hapmered would stop pushing the ball and start being agresisve.

Nalbandian out 2. Nadal has the best chance ever, not a single player left in his half of the draw that can beat him. Isnet would have been dangerous, but i read in his interview he’s tired already, so should he make it to SF he’s be a pushover.

Smells like Nadal – Federer in NY and i do believe that is one match we all want to see, even people that are not fans of the two. Never played in north america before so give us at least one while both are at the top of the game!

I’d settle for Nadal – Djokovic as well, just not Soderling. We don’t need another easy slam final, first 3 of the year were a gimme.


Nina Says:

If Federer wins this one, I really am going to hang myself. Insert :mad: emoticon here.


jane Says:

Lots of upsets so far: Roddick, Berdych, Davydenko and Murray are all top tenners, gone. Then you have Cilic going out and he did well here last year. I wonder if more upsets are a-coming.


Nina Says:

@sonic… true, i don’t want another easy decaffeinated slam final. These season has been so disappointing already, can’t take no more.


Sean Randall Says:

Murray out. I’m somewhat shocked. This leaves a massive opening for either Isner or Querrey to breakthrough.


Duro Says:

Jane, Nole tomorrow.


paula Says:

Sorry to all the Andy fans. I wanted him to win this. And congrats to Stan and his fans. He hit some amazing shots.

I too hope not to see Soderling in the final mostly because I find him less attractive then the others…


jane Says:

sonic says “We don’t need another easy slam final” – agreed. Every slam final this year has been a 3 setter. I want a 5 setter at least. So if it’s going to be another Federer or Nadal win, they’d better have to work hard for it at least. ;)


jane Says:

Duro, I know; that’s what I am thinking. Another upset tomorrow.


Skeezerweezer Says:

Jane, Margot & Murray fans….:(

I guess Stan was the man today…

Draw is opening up nicely for Rafa….seems like the stars are aligned….


blank Says:

At 4pm I thought this is a done deal/easy match and went out shopping. When I come back home, Murray is down match point. Unbelievable!


goat galz Says:

Every grand slam Murray is the favorite. When will they learn?


blank Says:

jane,

Don’t give up on Djoko yet. He is not playing well.


blank Says:

I am sorry. I meant “he is playing well**”


Skeezerweezer Says:

Can we expect a post now from CB soon?


Duro Says:

Jane, but I was unjinxing him :-)! Damn organizers. They gave Novak two night matches in row so to serve him 1 pm oven tomorrow against Fish.

I’ll have a fish for lunch tomorrow, just to help Nole win it.

Goat galz, you are clever, funny, profound, eloquent and I simply adore you! Keep on showing!


jane Says:

blank “He is not playing well.” Freudian slip? lol.

I will, of course, cheer Djoko on until he’s out, but I have a bad feeling about tomorrow. Maybe he’ll surprise me and he’ll buck this upset tradition.

Anyhow, onward we go – more tennis to be played in week two!

Murray will come back stronger next year; he played great at the AO and Wimbledon and he can win. Even Johnny Mac predicted he wouldn’t win his first slam this year, but would do so in 2011. I am keeping the faith!


i am it Says:

It was a shocking exit, worse than last year.
Nobody is talking about Peter Lundgren, who is Wawa’s current coach. As a Davis Cup coach for UK, Lundgren is familiar with Murray’s game, so Wawa must have benefited strategically.
That was a poor show from Murray. When he is hunted and attacked, he becomes clueless and resorts to his age-old defense. That’s what happened today.
I feel sorry for all Murray fans.


i am it Says:

Nole-Fish have a mid-day match, not helpful for Nole, besides other disadvantages. The pro-Fish crowd can help Nole, though. He likes to play against the crowd. Hope he survives by some means.


johhny Says:

heat days in NY are gone, tomorrow max 27 C, so this should be fine for Nole.

so the main fav to win USO 2010 is out? how so? i already see him as the main fav for AO 2011.


tennislover Says:

It is not as hot as it was during the first few days. Djoko should do fine. He has dominated Fish in the past. I’d be shocked if he he doesn’t beat Fish. He should breeze through to the semis at least.


paula Says:

youzhny or isner?


tennislover Says:

“so the main fav to win USO 2010 is out?”

Not everyone thought that Andy was the main fave for the USO although almost everyone expected him to reach the semis. Nadal was my fave for the USO and the way he has stepped it up during this tournament, he has become an even bigger favorite now. There appears to be nobody left in the draw, except probably a fit and fresh Djoko, who can challenge Nadal in this kind of form.


paula Says:

I love Mikhail’ skipping. He’s a serious skipper.


aleish17 Says:

@ Margot and Jane

Sorry for Murray’s loss today. A big upset indeed. He coulda give Nadal a difficult match.

@ Skeeze

I really hope Rafa will make the most out of these scenarios. As you said, the stars are aligned for him. Hoping to see him in the finals (coz he never reached USO finals before) and eventually win it all. :)


Bleditor Drew Says:

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blank Says:

I think Isner has ways to go before he can be considered a serious threat in any big tournament.


paula Says:

agreed Blank.
Right now he’s got this super hang dog look on his face. I hate it when the players look miserable to be out there. Ana did earlier…anyway, maybe he’ll snap out of it. Even if he’s not gonna win, he should look a little less negative-

I’m REALLY looking forward to Leni and Stosur- so maybe this going quickly has an upside.


Ike Says:

this afternoon playing conditions weren’t that horrible, but i m wondering if Murray vs. Wawrinka match was scheduled at 7 pm on Ashe stadium, could the outcome have been any different?
i m not truly shocked at Andy’s loss but disappointed / disheartened, i think we all are getting used to Andy’s “heart breaking” losses.


Ike Says:

blank

Isner is 25 years old, how much is left in him (not physically but tactically / mentally) to truly improve?


blank Says:

Paula,

I am looking forward to that match too. I love Dems!


Ike Says:

i think Querrey will beat Wawrinka


Ike Says:

blank paula

what’s ur opinion about during match coaching in tennis, should it be allowed?

i think yes, it will improve the quality of tennis, when the coach is seating right next to you, i don’t think players can have that long face look. they will be more positive, what do u guys think?


paula Says:

LENI POWER! I do hope we get to hear Johnny Mac (hm, I guess not, he’s not commentating now) go on and on about her thighs, which are a sight to behold.

Stosur’s guns against Leni’ thighs…it should be a good match. I like Stosur, but love Leni..


andrea Says:

just saw that murray crashed out. somewhere, nadal is smiling.

bad news for murray. i agree with others here that nadal’s path to the final looks pretty good now, but ferrer or verdasco can still give him grief. and both stan and querrey have shown some mettle against nadal on hard courts, but over 5 sets, it’s a question mark. nadal looks fitter than ever.

looks like isner is on his way out as well.

would love to see the ultimate final between you know who but pesky soderling lurks for fed.


Ike Says:

Nalby beat Youz in Russia, and Isner can’t beat him in USA, bizarre!


Ike Says:

andrea
Isner is not out yet, he has a BP


Ike Says:

got it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


grendel Says:

Murray was very downcast at his presser, and there is one thing which nobody has mentioned here – because apart from the few Brits posting nobody understands it – and that is the pressure on Murray from an expectant British media/public. Murray is alone. All the other big countries in Europe, even Germany, have several high class players. This is a peculiar kind of pressure which would be hard for anyone to handle. Henman did so with considerable grace. It is even harder for Murray since he is better than Henman, and expectations are correspongingly higher.

Rusedski made a sensible comment, I think. He suggested Murray should go and talk with someone like Agassi (who greatly helped Verdasco), Agassi apparently was Murray’s hero, and could give Murray the sort of advice which he might heed. I’ve said before, Murray has a strong sense of hierarchy, and he simply won’t bother listening to most people. The business of a coach – again, Rusedski and Annabelle Croft were spot on. If he’s going to get one, it must be someone he respects, rather than likes playing footy with, preferably someone who doesn’t need money.

Miles McLagan was saying the other day how hard it was to get Andy to do anything different – the trick was to somehow arrange matters so that Murray imagined he’d thought up the advice himself, and therefore was willing to take it. That’s no good. i am it referred to the good coaching relationship between Warwinka and Peter Lundgren. And indeed, it seems there is quite a bond between them, and it’s a partnership of equals we’re told. Can you imagine that with Murray? He always has to be boss. Perhaps this shock will change him.

Annabelle Croft thought this defeat would hurt Murray badly. Even getting beaten in the final at the AO shocked Murray into a loss of form for several months, and she reckons this could be worse. On the other hand, Murray could always find excuses for himself in being beaten by Federer – this will be more difficult. And that could prove to be the oil that loosens the lock of Murray’s stubborness. That’s the bright side.


Ike Says:

andrea
r u Rafa fan?


paula Says:

Re coaching-
I think its embarrassing they let the women do it and not the men.

Not sure what I think about it in pro tennis. I think I’m against it.

I do think its ridiculous juniors and high school players can’t be coached. I once said “watch that ball” to a player on my sons’ summer travel team and got chastised. Whoops. I was worried she was going to step on the ball and twist her ankle- but I wasn’t supposed to say ANYTHING. Weird.


blank Says:

Ike,

Thanks for pointing out he is 25, for some reason I was thinking he’s much younger. I honestly don’t think Isner can do much from now on. Maybe he can work on the mental strength aspect a bit. Other than that, with these super tall guys, you know they always get injured in the late 20s and sadly most of them fade away.


Ike Says:

grendel

who do u think should coach Murray?


blank Says:

Link to Murray post match interview for those who haven’t seen this yet:

http://www.usopen.org/en_US/news/interviews/2010-09-05/201009051283731407323.html


blank Says:

I am dead against on-court coaching. Men’s tennis is good as it is. Hope they don’t screw it as well.


Ike Says:

blank

i hope Isner will have a run like Goran in some GS and win it all, i doubt it, but hope it. (Goran was lot more talented than Isner but you get the point…)


Ike Says:

blank

could u plz. elaborate why on-court coaching shouldn’t be allowed in men’s tennis? just curious….


Ike Says:

John has a BP…….


Kimmi Says:

isner came back from 2-5..wow


Ike Says:

he gets it……John is on fire!!!!!!!!


Ike Says:

Aceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee


Ike Says:

144 mph!!!!!!!


Ike Says:

good judgment from Isner..no volley attempt, he lead 6-5


Kimmi Says:

youzhny must be kicking himself. serving for set TWICE and got broken..


grendel Says:

Ike – no idea, but it’s a good question, because if the coach is to be someone Murray respects, not a yes man, and preferably someone who has no need of his money (and is therefor doing the job out of interest) – it narrows the field down hugely, doesn’t it? One has to hope that his mother Judy has some good ideas in this respect.


Ike Says:

i wud like to c this match go to 5 sets


paula Says:

WHOAH- what a turnaround.


Kimo Says:

Something just occured to me:

Murray reached the final of the AO, last year he made the quarters at RG, he’s made the semis at Wimbledon two years in a row now, yet at the US Open he’s exited from the 3rd round two years in a row.

Is the US Open his best slam? Is it really?


Ike Says:

grendel

why can’t Murray listen / respect coach’s opinion/advice. i mean why does he have to be so arrogant? (i don’t know if he is that arrogant, i m just saying…)
he hasn’t won any GS, he gotta learn/know as much as possible from others.
I think coaching dept…Rafa is truly lucky!


Ike Says:

Kimo

but Murray made finals in 08, how can we ignore that?


Ike Says:

grendel

i think Larry Stefanki might be a good coach for Murray……..


blank Says:

Ike,

Tennis is an individual sport and imo the two minds should battle it out there without any help. Another reason is: Don’t fix something that’s not broken. Why do we need this in tennis anyway?. I can list few more…but the point is, I personally don’t think it is going to improve the game.


Ike Says:

did anybody notice, a security (yellow shirt guy) was nodding / appreciating Isner’s ace, kind of interesting….


jane Says:

I had to look up who “Leni” is although blank’s “Dems” and paula’s mention of “thighs” were good clues. I am all for a Dementieva win in that one. Go Elena!


Kimo Says:

Ike, you’re right, we can’t, but if he wants to win it he should at least match his best result, and for two years now he comes up short against hard hitting opponents who blow him off the court.

I mean, Murray has to realize that he is at or near his prime. If he’s ever gonna win a slam, it’s gotta happen NOW.

Everyone knows, including Murray, that his counter punching game just doesn’t cut it at the moment, but it’s very hard for someone to completely change his game especially when it’s been relatively successful. He’s won 5 MS1000 tournaments, so he’s not all wrong, but slams are different. You have to keep it up for seven five-set matches in a row over two weeks.

I know anti-Feds are gonna grill me for this, but can we just take a moment and basque in Fed’s 23 consecutive slam semis? That’s 6 years of never being upset at a slam. And now for two consecutive US Opens, Murray loses in the first week when he’s a heavy favorite.


Ike Says:

blank

i think it’s just matter of time before they allow on-court coaching in tennis, i think it will improve the quality and will get rid of this “lover’s” signals kind of coaching that’s going on now a days


Ike Says:

John gets the second set!!!!!!


Ike Says:

now we have a match!!!


grendel Says:

Ike, I barely know why I’m the mess I am, so I have no idea where Murray’s psychological problems stem from. I wouldn’t underate the sheer difficulty of becoming a successful British tennis player. The odds against it are enormous (the corpses of talented but hopeless British tennis players are strung across the Challenger courts of the world). So for Murray to have – relatively speaking – succeeded is an extraordinary achievement at least as far as his fellow Britons are concerned. For him to keep an entirely level head in these circumstances cannot be easy.

With reference to Larry Stefanki – er, I rather thought he was already booked…..

Been nice talking to you. Bedtime for me.


Ike Says:

Kimo
i m anti-Fed fan, but i always agreed with the point that you mentioned, that run was greatest ever, no doubt about it. the reason i was anti-Fed was purely on the basis that he made tennis boring by “winning the GS” even before it’s started…you know what i mean, it was like a movie, we were there just to watch how it takes place.


Kimo Says:

grendel, the whole British burden thing is understandable in cases where Murray loses a final to Federer, but this is the 3rd round. He barely broke sweat in his first two matches. There is no pressure at all on him to win a 3rd round match. Maybe he starts feeling the pressure if he reaches the semis, but before that? I doubt it. Sure he might feel nervous at times, but I don’t think there’s any tennis player out there that doesn’t get nervous at all.

Today he didn’t lose because he’s British, he lost because he just wasn’t good enough.


Kimo Says:

Ike said:

“you know what i mean, it was like a movie, we were there just to watch how it takes place.”

I hear ya man, but it’s a damn good movie. Stuff blows up. AWESOME :DDD


Ike Says:

grendel

i hope someone can/will coach Andy and make him the GS winner! it’s just agonizing to watch him losing.

talk to u later….


Ike Says:

Kimo

not sure if it was “damn good movie. Stuff blows up. AWESOME :DDD”

i mean i didn’t watch Roddick vs. Fed wimbledon final, not even for a minute, i knew the script, the heart-break, the agony that Roddick was to suffer


jane Says:

Murray is quite despondent in his interview, and tired-seeming. grendel’s right about Murray’s unique pressure, that he is alone. There are no sort of lower or mid ranked UK players in the top 100, (not sure about lower than that or if there are any coming up), so there’s nothing to divert attention away from him, in terms of the rather rabid media. Murray does not think he “played terribly” today; he just thinks Wawrinka “played better.” Though he does acknowledge that out of all of his losses at the slams this year, this one is probably one that he should have won.


Ike Says:

Kimo

u won’t believe, how happy i felt for Del Po last year when he beat Fed. i mean he did it fair & square, all guns blazing / turbo charged engine!!!


Ike Says:

jane, grendel,

just a wild thought…can British LTA / govt. pick up (say 100) orphan / poor kids and train them to make good tennis players, i mean the country that ruled the world for few centuries should have something better than just one good tennis player


Kimo Says:

Ike, I can’t say I was happy that Fed lost, I NEVER want anyone to win against Fed, but I was happy for Delpo. He’s my no.2 after Fed.

Like you said, he won it fair and square.


Ike Says:

i mean look at Spain, how many good tennis players did they have before 1992 Barcelona Olympics, yeah they had some good clay court players, but during that Olympic time they focused on hard-court tennis, and look what they got in 20 years!


Ike Says:

Kimo

it’s ok to root for Fed :)
but if there is no variety in sports / tennis, it gets boring. not sure if you watch American Football, in last 10 years they had 7 different superbowl winners. that’s the way sport should be…just my opinion


jane Says:

I didn’t realize this “The second part of Nadal’s march to history is that, with a victory, he will become the third person to win all four majors plus an Olympic singles gold medal. The other two? Mr. and Mrs. Andre Agassi.”

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-dwyre-us-open-20100906,0,7577940.column

Everyone’s been talking about Rafa’s potential career slam with a victory here, but no one mentioned the golden one. Just plum forgot. Anyhow, still a lot of tennis to be played. Still, Rafa’s got to be relieved about Murray’s upset?


jane Says:

Wawrinka is 1-0 over Sam, but it was a very close match.


Kimberly Says:

sorry for murray, not one of my favs but you now he’s hurting. What suprises me is how downtrodden he sounds in his presser. He’s strange sometimes he has the fight with some great comebacks (melzer USO 08, gasquet wimby 08 and french 10) but other times when he’s down you get the sense he really doesn’t want to be there. That’s what Berdych said about him in his presser after he beat him at RG, that Andy didn’t look like he wanted to be out there. I figured Andy probably really didn’t since he felt he had no realistic chance of winning RG. Didn’t see him in this match, was out all day then went out to dinner and heard someone at the bar say he had lost. I was shocked, knew he was struggling but figured he would turn it around. Still kind of shocked but good for stan, he tries so hard.


Ike Says:

hope Isner can fight his way back …


Kimmi Says:

jane – its good to know H2H but i dont look at them as the clue anymore.

look at what happened to murray, he won the last 3 matches against wawrinka.

Youzhy would have been out of the court right now. good to see him still fighting after that dissapointed second set (lose a set after being 5-1 up..OUCH!)


Ike Says:

jane

i was aware of Golden GS, just two days ago watched “Between the lines – Andre Agassi” on tennis channel.
And that Olympic Gold medal is one more thing he has and Fed doesn’t.


Ike Says:

jane, Kimberly, Kimmi,

i have a feeling that this loss is kind of blessing in disguise for Andy, i think he will recover sooner (than after that Aussie Open final). Watch for him in London’s year end tournament.


jane Says:

Kimmi, I know what you’re saying about H2H’s, but I still like to check them out anyhow, if only out of curiosity. It makes a difference too even if the two have only met before (i.e., do they know each other’s games, what to expect, etc?)

I am hoping Youzhny wins this. Go Mikhail! Hold and win!


graham Says:

3 problems i noticed in Murrays game tonight which he needs to improve if he is going to get anywhere near a slam:

1. Too many chipped forehand returns. For someone who is touted as a great returner he doesnt half slice a lot of forehand returns. We never saw Agassi doing this and Federer rarely does it either. Its a garbage shot which sits up and just asks to be hit which Wawrinka did tonight.

2. Poor 1st serve percentage. Murrays serve very rarely holds up throughout a 5 set match. I think in the 3rd set he served at 38% and that wont get it done against anyone good.

3. Not hitting his backhand big enough. His backhand is right up there with the best in the game yet too often he bunts it back. he should be hitting this shot as hard as he can virtually every time trying to get on top of rallies. He tried this in the 4th set tonight but because he never does it in the small events then he cant produce it when it matters in the big ones.

Above all he needs to do one thing and that is change his game in the lesser events. That is the place to develop his game into a slam winning one. He has to realise that beating a guy ranked 50 in a masters event just by bunting the ball back is not going to help him win a slam. He needs to start playing all out aggression in every single match he plays in every tournament.


US_Open Says:

Rafa was given a direct non-stop tiket to Finals by Wawrinka today.


Kimmi Says:

youz is playing nervosly when ahead..almost got brocken back. but he holds


Kimmi Says:

youz another break..get it youzhy


Kimmi Says:

More BOOOOM BOOOM. Isner holds


paula Says:

I hope that Youz wins. I hope he does that wacky military salute all around the court. And throws in some extra skipping.

Also, I want this to end so I can see Leni play before I pass out.


Kimmi Says:

so tight ah..nervous man!


jane Says:

Youz not getting in enough first serves, making errors; you’re right Kimmi. He’s almost beating himself when he’s ahead. That was a great second serve for deuce though. And isn’t his backhand a thing of beauty?


Kimmi Says:

the nervous man holds..hmmm its not over yet. just wait till he gets a chance to serves for the match..


jane Says:

paula, yep. Love the salute. margot calls Youz “the Bouncer” because she thinks he looks like one of those door guarders at pubs. LOL. Crowd are quite taken out of this, barely acknowledging Youz’s winners. Well, no, they are hollering for Isner’s “BOOM”s understandably, as he is a “home” hope.


Kimmi Says:

BOOOOM hmmmm!


Kimmi Says:

I can feel youz coming back and gets extra nervous. lets see if he can hold here!


paula Says:

Jane- here’s my post where I talk about riding the elevator with Youz. He’s smoking hot-
http://tennisisametaphorforlife.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2010-08-12T20:10:00-07:00&max-results=7


Art Says:

Got to love Grand Slam Tennis. It really separates the Champs from the Chumps! This is why you have to give so much credit to Fed and Nadal. They are always prepared to put the hard work in before hand and give if there best out in the court. Even when they don’t succeed, you know it was not due to a lack of effort or arrogance. I think this is what separates them from the rest.


Kimmi Says:

wow! what an easy hold. one more to go! the hardest one ofcourse


kimberly Says:

These women must be getting anxious….what’s everyones prediction on dementieva stosur?

I’m going with dementieva but don’t really know how the match up. Stosur has just seemed kind of blah since rg.


Ike Says:

is it just me, or most of us agree on this: evening session should start with women’s match, get it done in 60 minutes or so and then play the men’s match, i thought that’s the way it was in the past

paula, i think at least u will agree with me on that :)


Kimmi Says:

match point..hello!


Ike Says:

paula, kimmi, jane, kimberly,

just curious why all u r rooting for Youz? just bec’z u don’t want to c any American win?


Kimmi Says:

now youz to serve it out..oh dear, waiting in anticipation


Ike Says:

Art

if u remember Gaston Gaudio won French Open in 2004 (and according to him, he is the worst Grand Slam winner ever!). Point is even in GS chumps can be champs, it’s very rare though (compared with masters)


Kimmi Says:

I just like youz and because no one in the stand cheering for him.


kimberly Says:

Congrats to youzney. Fish and querry now holding the burden.


jane Says:

Yes!! Youz wins it!! Salute and a little skip. Good for him.


paula Says:

YYYAAAAYYY!!!! Let’s see= HE DID THE SALUTE- aw, I’m in love.


Kimmi Says:

THREE match point..c;mon colonel

game set match..salute and a happy dance.

Great showing isner especially with the injury.

next is robredo for youz what a chance to reach the qtrs


Ike Says:

Roddick, Isner gone, may be Fish tomorrow and Querrey day after? i hope not, gotta have some American in the QF…..


paula Says:

I like Youz cause he’s hot. Isner is not so hot. Isner is probably a very nice man and I wish him well. And I like Youz’s skipping and so forth…

Great talk on the court. Good man.

I’m not anti American. At all. For instance, when I watch American football, I tend to cheer for the…um, Americans? And when I watch hockey, I cheer for the …well, usually they’re Canadian. Anyway, I sort of love the world. And hot tennis players, too.


paula Says:

Here come the ladies! Love these two.

Ted Robinson’s eyes are ginormous. Froggy.


Kimmi Says:

querrey is my fave american player. nowadays he is starting to show some emotions on the court..great to see.

but i will cheer for stan the man when they meet. just because he has been second best to the fed all his life. He beat muzza my fave today, he played one of his best tennis to beat muzza..tho muzza did not show up most of the time…so he gets all my respect.

GO stan, Go kick some a$$


jane Says:

Ike, I hope it’s Sam in the QFs. : ) But maybe it will be Fish, or both. I can’t not root for Nole though.

Paula, I liked your post on the Youz elevator ride; thanks for the link. : )

I enjoy hockey a lot too, and there’s another poster here who goes by the moniker “puckbandit” so stick around.


paula Says:

Ike- I think they switch up who plays second now, to be more “fair”. I personally wanted to see the women first, because I think it’ll be a more exciting match. Big servers- as cool as it is to see a crazy big serve- tend to bore me in matches…just the points are so quick.

I think Leni should win this, but you never know. I think we could see a bunch of great rallies and emotions…

Whoah- Sam’s GUNS! I just- I mean, they are wildly huge. As I said, Sam’s guns v. Leni’s thighs….


paula Says:

Thanks Jane! I watch a lot of AHL hockey in Binghamton NY- their team feeds the Ottawa Senators. But I also like Pittsburgh cause Sidney Crosby is sooooo fine. And the Rangers- because I mostly live in NYC….Ah, sports. They’re all good. Maybe even curling. Not sure though.


guy Says:

ike
‘I am not trying to morality police and we are not in Middle-East but still….gotta have some decency.’

unfortunately class is a rarity on the wta tour. but it’s just following wider social trends i suppose.

paula
actually i isner has a better face than youzhny.


JCK Says:

Hello from Southern California. I’ve been reading your people’s comments here on and off but haven’t been posting much.

I watched today’s US Open on CBS. I’m very impressed by Rafa’s serve. I’ve become a fan of his since the days he was dismissed as a Clay Court specialist. I love his never-say-die attitude. He has come a long way since. One thing I’ve always liked about him is his willingness to work hard and improve. Now he gets a fast serve! Imagine that!

That’s one thing Murray can well take a lesson if all the stories about his arrogance is true. I think Murray’s biggest problem is that he’s a head-case. When he gets frustrated, he loses his composure. Today is a good example.

I caught Rafa’s 2nd set tiebreaker Friday night in a Nordstrom. When he’s 1-5 down, I thought oh-oh. But he had that look in his eyes even though he applauded Istomin’s spectacular shot. His eyes narrowed; his eyebrow arched up; and he looked positively predatory. He went on winning 6 straight points and the set. It seems his focus was elevated by the challenge facing him. He dug deep and raised his play level by will. Murray had a very different look today when things didn’t go his way. He was berating himself and he had a hang dog/defeated look. I knew he’s in trouble even it’s just the 2nd set.

Sean, I wonder whether you’ll still say you don’t get the feeling that Rafa can win this thing after today’s match. But I heard your jinxing ability is legendary so I probably shouldn’t ask. :-)


jane Says:

paula, slight edge to guns over thighs at the moment? Or even? What say you? My nephew is in the WHL so we watch a lot of that. He was drafted this summer, so we drove down to L.A. to see the draft.


kimberly Says:

Very high quality with the ladies so far


paula Says:

Jane- very cool about your nephew!

This is some great hitting. I think it should be a good match. Leni’ boyfriend i Maxim Afinegov (sp) from the Buffalo Sabres. They are the cutest couple.

I do like Sam, too. She’s seem so sweet and her run at the French was awesome.


kimberly Says:

I was forced to play on clay today and really didn’t move well. I don’t think I’ve played clay in five years. Typical american. Terrible. Can’t slide. Feel weird moving. It was over 110 degrees on the court so I kicked at the clay when serving like the armada but simply to waste time and catch my breath.

Heard it will be cooler in ny tomorrow though. Good for nole.

Triple break point stosur.


kimberly Says:

Stosur breaks. Now 30 love. Can she hold?


JCK Says:

One comment about Venus’s “dress”: It’s ridiculoous. In one long rally, the dress portion came up completely to her waist. She couldn’t pull it down until the point was over. She looked naked from the waist down with the nude short. Is there any dress code at all at the US Open? Are they waiting for any female players bursting out of a “dress” before they come up with a dress code?

Venus, this is a sporting competition, not a fashion runway. Function should come first for any sports outfits!


kimberly Says:

The guns are hitting huge shots….watching on tennis channel, martina calling love it!


jane Says:

Well was hoping for Dementieva, but it’s looking like Stosur’s night so far.


paula Says:

I think people should be able to play tennis in the nude.


paula Says:

I also love Martina’s calling it. She’s no Tracy Austin – who makes me pull my hair out. She’s wise and no snarkiness. A little emotion free- but good.

Leni’s toss makes me feel better about my service issues. Sheesh.

I do think this is one of those matches that is not over til its over.


kimberly Says:

Stosurs outfit is nice nut I’m a nike gal.


kimberly Says:

So much more pleasant to watch with martina calling.


kimberly Says:

Stosur and leni r both sweet but there is some inevitabilty that the winner of this match will lose to clijsters.


paula Says:

I think either could beat Kimmy on a good day. All three are nice ladies.

I like both outfits. I own some yonex dresses (due to being a big Leni fan)- I must say- not very comfy.

I wear tons of Nike too- but also adidas, filas, and I just got the coolest Babolat dress in Toronto. Tennis clothes are fun.


Von Says:

Now I feel badly that Murray lost. In a way I feel I jinxed him. Sorry Margot. I stated the following in my post earlier today:

“Sam should take Almagro quite easily, but Murray/Wawrinka is somewhat iffy.Could today be a day of upsets for one of the top four?”

September 5th, 2010 at 11:33 am


kimberly Says:

Just ordered the sharapova uso and wimby outfits. Excited. Yes, lenis toss is bizarro. Not that I’m one to talk.


jane Says:

Bummer, was hoping Dement would hold onto that break. : /


paula Says:

sigh. Leni can come back. Right?

Kimberly, very cool dresses!


jane Says:

I usually like Sharapova’s outfits; the two-tone one with the dove gray and maroon that she wore earlier this year was so pretty. The turquoise outfit from this year’s open is nice too. In addition, while she dresses quite fashionably, I find her outfits tasteful and she pretty much always looks comfy in them; she’s not tugging and pulling at stuff throughout the match and between points. Well, she’s always doing the hair tuck, but that’s a separate matter. ;)

Awww, come on Elena!


kimberly Says:

Both players sloppier this set.


dari Says:

Sad for Murray, I cheered quite hard for that little bugger. Poor guy is cursed with this passive tennis at all the wrong times and just couldn’t get any positivity after he was down.
On the other hand, stan played great and was fun to watch. I hope he take out the next, is it querrey?
Boy do I love tennis.


paula Says:

I agree- Maria looks great and her clothes are functional. She also seems to not be able to play with sleeves- and nor can I. That said, the best thing about Maria is that she made Yuri disappear (or her pr people did).

Go Leni….breakfest.


i am it Says:

Jane,
Did I really pick Youz to beat Isner? Can you check the list, please?
Just messing with you. Did you see I beat you on this? Not fun, though.


jane Says:

i am it, lol. On my bracket challenge I picked Youz to the R16 and Isner to lose first round because I thought he was injured. But since he’s been making his way, I figured he’d keep the momentum. I am happy for Youz though!

Dementieva is not good at net.


kimberly Says:

I did hair adjustments, clay kicks, ball bouces anything to stall time between points it was so hot today. Stopped short on doing the rafa tug though!


Von Says:

Paula: Thanks for that Roddick link, which was very positive. It shows me that Roddick has fans elsewhere who adore him, aside from this blog. The links posted here on Roddick are always those that have derogatory quotes about him, by those posters who like to reinforce their hatred towards him.


sar Says:

For Novak fans a really good video by the Bryans about Novak-what goofs. They said they might go to Belgrade.
Tweet:
@Bryanbros See Novak knock out one-handed pushups in our “US Open Day 6 Video Blog” on The TENNiS APP for iPhone/iPad or tennischannel.com. about 6 hours ago


kimberly Says:

This one will go three I think!


jane Says:

Come on Elena hold now!!


paula Says:

sar-
give us a link? Sounds funny!


sar Says:

go to tennischannel.com, then scroll down to Hightlights and Bryan Video Blog. Then find pic of novak, day 6.


jane Says:

Nice to see these ladies going 3 in a competitive match.


kimberly Says:

Third set now….right now I think dementieva will come thru. Stosurs level dropped for sure. Not winning points on second serve. Strong groundies from dementieva.


sar Says:

Number one Woz did not beat a top five player in 18 months says Martina. It will be interesting tomorrow.


jane Says:

Okay yes, I think you may be right kimberly. Hope so, hope so. I think so many people would love to see Dementieva win a slam! I know against Clijsters it would be tough, but you never know. Elena’s dress has a “wet” look to it. I keep thinking “she can’t be sweating that much!”


jane Says:

Oops the I know and you know here sounds dumb: ” I know against Clijsters it would be tough, but you never know.” What I meant to say is while it might be tough, Dement has an outside shot. Have to eliminate the pronouns altogether there.

Come on Elena! Finish this one up.


sar Says:

This is Lena’s best chance to win a slam–then she can marry her Buffalo Sabres boyfriend.


paula Says:

sar- those directions were complicated for me. No link? I’m mildly drunk and very tired.

Regarding sweat-I noticed that Isner had sweat dripping off of his face. I used to blog about Klebanyva (sp) wringing out her ponytail. Anyone remember that.

Go Leni! Although, I do like Sam. Woozy joy at tennis.


paula Says:

Also, Leni’s mom’s face makes me emotional.


sar Says:

No link, sorry.


paula Says:

BTW- just read RR’s post last night and tonight on my blog -and I’m cramping from laughing so hard.

Also- re Leni’s dress. I think it’s shiney. It’s not all sweat.


jane Says:

Sam suddenly comes back on form, after several bad games. Not sure this bodes well for Lena, who has trouble holding at times. Paula that’s true about Lena’s mum; she looks worried a lot and the camera-person keeps cutting to her wringing her hands, squirming in her seat, and adjusting her glasses.

Matt Cronin picks Fish over Nole in 5. Hmmmm…. Well, I won’t be surprised. Since the draw came out this is the match I was dreading. Dive in, Nole, and see what you can catch. You may come up empty handed, but you never know!


Von Says:

Mardy, please don’t let the US down. Get this win, and do it for andy, who would have done it, had he gotten to the QFs. GO MARDY, GO USA!!!!


BT Says:

This match is a chokefest. Neither can pull their hand away from their own throat long enough to put the other down.

13 breaks of serve between them! Some needs to step up!!!


dari Says:

No f*ing way the stosur dementieva show is still going on!


guy Says:

i’ve always been amazed how often stosur gets broken with that serve


BT Says:

Stosur steps up first to save match points and break back then break Lena. Now serving for it herself at 6-5. This match is anyones guess.


guy Says:

dement is returning very well


guy Says:

it’s one thing squandering matchpnts returning, but on the serve, with that serve…boy


BT Says:

With the 15th break of serve for the match we are at 6-6.


jane Says:

Seems appropriate that this end in a 3rd set tiebreak. Looks at though Stosur will win it. Edge to the better server in a tiebreak, usually? Sad for Dementieva. But she had it on her racquet, and lost it.


kimberly Says:

Match point stosur wow….


kimberly Says:

Congrats to stosur on her win saving four match points.


Andrew Miller Says:

Gutsy performance by Stosur. Elena D. choked too. She should have wrapped the match up – her serve let her down again.


BT Says:

Congratulations to Sam on making the QF! Saving all those match points too! First time she has made it past the 2nd round at the USO. Stosur is going to have to lift her game now against Clijsters to have the slightest chance. She’s done some giant killing before so I don’t count her out.


WTF Says:

Dementieva is s–t. What a choker. She just refuses to win. Way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory Demmy.

Since I tuned into the match at 2-2 in the third I did not see a single winner from Dem. And she didn’t use her challenges when she could have. No point saving them unused. At the least, it could buy some time to steady herself on the big points. But she hit a lot of errors whenever she had match points. Every time the match was there for the taking, offered to her on a silver platter she refused the offer.

She never went for it, never tried to win the point… only tried to stay in and hope Stosur makes a mistake which she sometimes did. 4 match points, and 3 or 4 of those were squandered via unforced error.

I’m being realistic when I say that there is zero chance Dem could ever win a GS in her career.

Her serve I rate at a 3/10, and her mental toughness maybe 4/10. That is too many handicaps to win a big title.

I’ve casually watched her career over the years and know that she’d come close a few times (choked away those opportunities of course), but this was the golden opportunity for her to win one with injuries to the best players. There was no better opportunity than this. Next time around, Serena and Justine will be back, and it will be impossible.

Stosur is slightly better mentally than Dem, but more than enough to beat a choker. If you’re a top 10 player, you’d have to thank your lucky stars if you’re gifted a draw with Dementieva. You just can’t lose as long you’re not a choker yourself.

At Dem’s age, it’s probably worth retiring after this year.

Low quality match with far more errors than winners from both players. Disappointing.

You may call me cynical, but after watching this match, I don’t think you could realistically argue against me. She went from being on fire in the second set (so I heard) and half way through the third, and then just imploded when she was up 5-2. If there was another set to play, she probably would have won that third set, suggesting that it’s all mental.


paula Says:

Congrats Sam.
Sad about Leni.


tenisbebe Says:

Woo hoo!! Sam finally got it done. Now her prize is to play Kim in the QFs. Congrats to Sam.


Von Says:

So sad for Dementieva. This was a perfect USO for her to win, considering Serena and Henin are both out.

Anyway, she’s till young, and if she has the desire to win a GS, it could happen at the AO in 2011.

Nearly all my faves are out on the women’s side, except for Kim. And, only a few left on the men’s side. That said, it’s time for me to go out also.

Maxi, and GG/CB, et al., you know who you are. Don’t miss me too much. I realize it’s more fun with me around, as you both need to have a target to shoot darts into. That said, I’m hoping you find a new one. Enjoy the tennis and er the fighting also. tah tah.


pro rafa Says:

finally Murray lost to who i feel is a much better player… captain of the Swiss team in Davis cup kudos
nadal cannot have a better chance of reaching the finals of USO…. and federer will not get a better chance to beat Rafa anywhere else… the fastness of the court and the lightness of the ball will work to rogers advantage… Rafa can certainly win it though


Art Says:

Ike

I’m not 100% sure I understand your point but if you’re saying that that there a lot of chumps who have won grand slam titles I would agree, particularly during the post-Sampras/pre-Federer era.

Beyong Gaston Gaudio, you can probably lump Thomas Johansson and Juan Carlos Ferrero into that group of one-hit wonders.

However, and some may disagree, I wouldn’t lump Andy Roddick into the Chump camp even though he has only won one GS. Andy has made it to a couple Wimbledon finals and another US open final. Same for Lleyton Hewitt, even though he is well pass his prime. He’s got two slams, even though they came in post-Sampras/pre-Federer era and worthy of being called a Champ. Ditto for Marat Safin.

Admittedly, I’m not sure where to place Novak Djokovic. I still would call him a Chump despite winning the Aussie (due largely to Fed being sick as a dog). But he has a chance to elevate himself to Champ if he wins this year’s title.

As for JMDelpo. It’s too bad he is injured. I would place him above the Novak and Andy Murray in terms of the current pecking order.

Andy desperately needs a coach but he looks a bit too harded headed to listen to anyone. Reminds me of Boris Becker. Becker could had many more Grand Slams if he decided to utilize “a win at all costs” approach.


mat4 Says:

When I went to work last night Wawrinka choked at the end of the first set and AM was a break up in the second. I thought it was it. And this morning, I read AM lost!? What happend?


madmax Says:

Margot… (especially) :(

I just wish the british press would leave him alone. Say noting. There is now a big gap, a huge pause and he needs to get out of USA and have a break in Scotland – it’s done. Reflect. Move on. yes, a big deal right now, but he will progress and will improve – sorry margot.

I think the press are brilliant at reinterprreting situations – can’t believe this, can anyone else?

NADAL SNAPS AT FED
By Neil Mcleman 6/09/2010

Rafael Nadal has stoked up his rivalry with Roger Federer by refusing to travel in courtesy vans that carry the Swiss star’s picture.

Nadal and Federer have always maintained a cordial relationship but the Spaniard requested a van without Federer’s image to travel back to his hotel in Manhattan after his US Open first-round win last week.

The two are on collision course at Flushing Meadows, and Federer has raised the stakes ahead of a potental showdown in the final by saying that the world No.1 will never be rated the world’s greatest until he wins the US Open. Nadal, who last night beat Jules Simon 6-4 6-4 6-2, has won the last two Grand Slams in Paris and Wimbledon to take his tally to eight.

The thing is, a lot of people think these two don’t get on – but they do! And to have the exhibition match at Christmas is just a wonderful gesture from both nadal and fed – really reinforces their friendship on and off the court –

Also, Fed has to get through his fourth round match with Melzer, who is playing really well right now, so thoughts of a final have to be put on the back burner!

and how can anyone say that Fed’s tennis is boring? it’s genius!

Go federer!


grendel Says:

“grendel, the whole British burden thing is understandable in cases where Murray loses a final to Federer, but this is the 3rd round. He barely broke sweat in his first two matches. There is no pressure at all on him to win a 3rd round match. Maybe he starts feeling the pressure if he reaches the semis, but before that? I doubt it. Sure he might feel nervous at times, but I don’t think there’s any tennis player out there that doesn’t get nervous at all.

Today he didn’t lose because he’s British, he lost because he just wasn’t good enough.”

Kimo, actually, there was an immediate pressure on Murray in this 3rd round match. Murray has always had difficulty with Wawrinka, more than with Federer actually, which is strange, but that’s matchups, I guess. And yes, certainly Murray was beaten by the better player on the day.

But there is an underlying pressure, which may or may not be connected to the fact of his being British. I don’t pretend to know the answer to that, but I just wouldn’t underestimate it as a significant factor. What was worrying about Murray’s performance was not just the passive tennis, but his demeanour. Even in the second set, which he was winning (and should have won, having been rather gifted the first) he was looking unhappy to be on court. An air of depression hung around him. The messages he was sending to Wawrinka must have been extremely encouraging.

There is a problem here over and above the tennis although, oddly enough, the specific tennis problems (passivity) are almost certainly linked to whatever is the underlying problem.

One other thought. Murray’s game, at its best, is extremely subtle, on a par with Federer’s (although Murray is the more thoughtful, Federer the more instictive.) The borderline between intelligent, highly varied strategic play and passivity is, I guess, alarmingly narrow. So it is no easy job to fix Murray’s game. You are tempering with a startlingly original talent, which is why the whole business of a coach is such a delicate – and crucial – issue.


margot Says:

grendel: a very thoughtful and considered analysis. When I watched Andy at Toronto and saw him playing in such an aggressive, freehitting, happy way and saw him yesterday, self-harming, dejected, beating up on himself physically and mentally; why, I thought, he really can’t handle the the weight of the expectation of a grand slam.
However, I disagree with you about him being arrogant, rather I think he is profoundly insecure.
Reasons: he needs to surround himself with a large entorage of friends and family , like a lovely security blanket against the world
his behaviour on court, which I listed above, is not the behaviour of an arrogant man, rather the behaviour of someone with extremely low self esteem
if he were arrogant/confident then he would be happy to accept advice/criticism; as he is not, such would be perceived as an attack on his self-esteem, on his core, and could not be tolerated.
I’ve heard his horrible noon scheduling was at the behest of Sky who wanted to put it out at prime time for a voracious, champion- starved British public. Truly between us all we are killing the golden goose.


madmax Says:

Margot, I posted earlier on murray, you’ll see it before the above post –

fish is playing novak today, so good luck Jane.

It’s always great when other players compliment each other too – and Fish does deserve this credit:

NEW YORK — Roger Federer is not just impressed by the newly-fit and vastly-improved Mardy Fish. The man many believe is the best men’s tennis player in history is very happy for the revitalized American.

“I mean, his talent was never questioned, was it?” Federer asked rhetorically on Saturday after dismissing Paul-Henri Mathieu in straight sets. “I played him back in maybe was it 2003, 2004, when I won my first couple Wimbledons. He was the only guy to take a set off me.

“I always thought Mardy was an incredibly good player — regardless of his weight, to be honest. I think it’s great to show maybe other players, too, to see what’s possible at a later stage in your career — if you come up with some new ideas.”

In an attempt to resurrect his career, Fish lost 30 pounds prior to this season. The result has been the best year in the career of the man from Edina, Minnesota. Fish won in Newport and Atlanta and was the runner-up last month in Cincinnati — beating Andy Murray and Andy Roddick before losing to Federer in the final.

Federer gives Fish credit for such a radical change in his conditioning during the latter stages of his career.

“Change it up and see what happens … I think that’s what he’s doing,” said Federer, who will play Jurgen Melzer in the fourth round. “That the results follow, it’s not always a guarantee. But with him now, it’s happened. Obviously this is the big stage for him now, the U.S. Open.

“This is what it’s about for him now. This is where it’s really going to pay off for him — not in Washington or something. It’s great to see him playing well, doing well. He’s a nice guy, and he’s always been talented.”

Fish was flattered when Federer’s praise was relayed to him after his five-set victory Saturday over Arnaud Clement.

“It feels nice,” said Fish. “You want the respect of the guys you’re competing with — maybe him more so than anyone else. Roger’s a class guy, there’s no doubt. I mean, we’ve played six or seven times now, and he’s kicked my butt almost every time, so …”

I think Roger’s played 2 day sessions now and one night session (opener), so is he due a night session for later?


Cindy_Brady Says:

blah blah blah, everyone commenting on Murray’s unique pressure. He’s just another head case who chokes and wilts under pressure in big matches. There is nothing all that special about him. He’s a product of hype, nothing more – nothing less.

History will show players like Murray and Djokovic to be the bitches of Federer and Nadal as they rack up all the slam titles at their expense.


grendel Says:

Cindy_Brady – the thing about “head cases” is that they are all different. For instance, Gulbis, in a sense, is a “head case” – but what ails him is so utterly different to what ails Murray that labelling the two players under the same rubric yields no information. Rather a rhetorical exercise you are engaged in, wouldn’t you say?

margot – “if he were arrogant/confident then he would be happy to accept advice/criticism; as he is not, such would be perceived as an attack on his self-esteem, on his core, and could not be tolerated.” Yes, I absolutely agree. The word “arrogant” is double-edged, isn’t it, and can be a source of confusion.

b.t.w., I suggested above that Murray’s game matches up better with Federer than Wawrinka, but I don’t think it’s just that. I think Murray really enjoys playing Federer because he knows he has the skill to beat him, but that it is not a given. So it is an extremely stimulating challenge which he has every reason to believe he can rise to. And the same, actually, is true of his matches with Nadal. Loss, too, is not a disaster unless it’s a grand slam final. With Wawrinka, on the other hand, he’s on a hiding to nothing. If he wins, people will say “so what?”, and he knows there is always a real danger with this particular player that he will lose. It takes a particular kind of resolve to deal with this very thorny situation – Nadal was alluding to it the other day in his blog, when he spoke of how people expected him to win easily against quite strong opponents like Istomin. And Nadal handles these what you might call “non-glamour” matches with characteristic professionalism.

This business of self-esteem – do you think, margot, that the right coach could be instrumental in helping Murray to attain some?


grendel Says:

yes, madmax, Federer/Melzer is night match. I’m not so sure Melzer is a good match for Fed – it seems to be too easy. Last time, at Wimbie, he won so easy, and immediately stumbled against Berdych. This time, same situation, but for Berdych, read Soderling. Rather uncanny. I hope Melzer stretches Federer a bit, without actually beating him of course…..


Eskay Says:

Andy Murray is a counter puncher. He does not have a lethal punch of his own. In tight situations, he goes into defensive mode retrieving each ball and putting it across the net in whatever shape. He does not confidence in his ability to unleash a winner in tight situation. He has a good serve in normal situations, but in tight situations, he is not able to get out of trouble by serving aces or unreturnable serves. Roger does it through first serves and Rafa does it through his shot next to the serve. Rafa’s game has developed by improvement in his serve, back hand slice, and volleys. But one is not able to see development of similar magnitude in Murray’s game. One sympathises with him and shares his sufferings, which sometimes get openly manifested like his choking at A.O. presentation. May be if Roger abdicates his dominant position in the next 2-3 years, Murray will realise his potential, if not earlier.


Kimmi Says:

federer/melzer played only once. before wimbledon this year they never played it other. I agree grendel that it looked easy last time.

maybe melzer was overwelmed with the whole situation at wimbles. he was trying to be too aggressive and ended up doing lost of errors. he balls might go in this time, who knows.

he has been playing well this tournament so far. easy win against ferrero and i remember that marathon match against djoko at RG.

Lets wait and see


fed is afraid Says:

if roger and rafa meet in the final, rafa will win.
roger will choke like he always does against rafa, even on a court that favours roger.


margot Says:

madmax: thanks :) Yes, time to reflect..
grendel: yes, I’ve been on about self-esteem b4, it’s crucial. I certainly hope the new coach helps him in that area but also with his bloody serve! It was bad yesterday and thus he struggles. I’m a bit of a Polyanna here and do believe the best is yet to come 24-27, I’d say. After all, I think , 8 of those left r 28 and over!!


Skeezerweezer Says:

Madmax,

Thanks for the quotes from Fish. Hope it puts to rest anti feds thinking he is not a class guy. Nothin like words from his peers :)…..

“Roger’s a class guy, there’s no doubt”

Also, Feds tennis is boring? LMAO


Marko Polo Says:

It is Labor Day weekend in the US. Fish – Nole is prime time match of the day. As to the heat, it will be below 80 F. The weather will not pose a challenge for Nole, it will be the time of the day, because on North American soil Nole is sleepy around that time, so I expect him to be asleep during the 1st set and than slowly wake up…… Let’s just hope it will not be too late with 1-2 sets slipping away from him and not being able to come back…… Fish is fitter than ever and is very motivated to crown his season with a big win! He will have the crowd behind him and Nole will have to battle that battle as well. Having said all that, I believe the match is on Nole’s racket to win or loose. His serve has to be consistent and he must read the Fish serve very well and keep him glued to the baseline in as long as possible rallies. Any mental meltdown from Nole and he is out!!!!!! I of course cheer for him and hope that he gets through with a win, but at this point it is 50%-50% in my book unless Nole proves me wrong!!!!! Happy Labor Day to all the Americans!!!!


Gordo Says:

Cindy_Brady says -

“History will show players like Murray and Djokovic to be the bitches of Federer and Nadal as they rack up all the slam titles at their expense.”

Let’s examine history, shall we? In particular hard court records -

Djokovic vs Nadal on hard courts: 7-3 for Djokovic.

Murray vs Nadal on hard courts: 4-4, with Murray taking 4 of the last 5 times they met.

Djokovic vs Federer on hard courts: 8-4 for Federer.

Murray vs Federer on hard courts: 7 – 5 for Murray.

So Muzza/Nole vs Rafa/Fed career matches on hard courts is 22 – 20 for the guys you call their “bitches.”

Djokovic and Murray are a huge reason that on hard courts we have only seen 2 Nadal vs Federer matches on hard surfaces since 2006.

The top 10 guys are all capable of coming up with a huge win as Wawrinka had yesterday over Murray. The trick in Grand Slams is have 7 wins in a row. Rather than put down Murray perhaps we should be praising Wawrinka for hanging in and playing a good match. It will be interesting to see if he can back it up tomorrow in his match against Querrey.

Since the start of 2003 Federer has done it (won 7 best of 5 setters in a row and won a Grand Slam) 9 times on hard courts. Nadal, Djokovic, Del Potro, Murray, Safin and Roddick have each done it once.

I’m having trouble seeing how Djokovic and Murray qualify as bitches, but I may be wrong; it takes one to know one, as they say.


nadline Says:

Sean Randall says:

“Thus far Nadal hasn’t looked to me like a guy who can win this tournament. I thought he was pushed in both early round matches against Gabashvilli and Denis Istomin, two lower tier players.”

Ranking is irrelevant in these match-ups, don’t forget that a very very low ranked player beat Roger Federer when he was the World No 1 in their first meeting in straight sets. That lower ranked player was non other than Rafa Nadal, who was about No 60 in the world at the time.

You cannot compare Dustin Brown and Luckas Lacko to Gabashvili and Istomin, who have already beaten top experienced players this year.


Cindy_Brady Says:

Gordo,

Blah blah blah,

In the end, neither Djokovic or Murray win grand slam finals. Between the 2 – one.

Between Federer and Nadal 24.

Let’s examine the real facts. When it counts both Djokovic and Murray fail in big matches. They seem to come up big only in lower tier tournaments where both Nadal and Federer don’t care as much.

History doesn’t care what happened in Monteral or Indian Wells. It only cares what happens in the grand slams where legends are made.


Eskay Says:

It is the second time in recent memory that Rafa had to fight hard in the early matches. It happened in Wimbledon and now in U.S.O.He appears to struggle against journey men but finds it easy against the higher ranked player. Why did he have hard time against say Gebashvili and Istomin, but was so comfortable against Simon. In Wimbledon too, he was almost derailed in the early matches. May be the established players have established shots and fancy chance to win whereas the lower ranked players swing freely without fear. The quality of shot making was quite good for Simon and yet Rafa had it rather easy. His game appears to be falling in place as the matches go on.


Gordo Says:

Cindy – your point is well taken on the history-making value of slams, but when it comes to hard courts Nadal has 1 Grand Slam, Djokovic has 1 and Murray has none. Much of this has to do with Federer, who will not be around in a few years. Both Djokovic and Murray will be. They will both win Slams before they are finished, imo. They are both younger than Nadal, and both are improving.

I’m not sure Roddick will ever win another tho, his ship seems to have sailed and like Chang he may be a 1-Slam winner.


nadline Says:

Nadal, Djokovic and Murray are of the same generation, there is only 11 months between them, so I don’t understand how Nadal will not be around whilst the other two are still playing.

Anyway, it’s not only because of Roger and Rafa that they haven’t won GS – 1 in the case of Djokovic and none in Murray’s case. How many GS finals have they made, 2 each and they have not always been beaten by either Roger or Rafa on the eay to the final.

There might also be more contenders when Federer has retired, no one saw Rafa coming after Agassi and Sampras retired. There is also Delpo.


jane Says:

margot ” 8 of those left r 28 and over!!” – How true and thanks for pointing that out, as I didn’t realize it until you said it. I guess a certain maturity is helpful in big matches/pressure-filled situations. And like you, I choose to be optimistic for Murray and Djoko going forward. They are both just 23 years old this year, and they can win slams in the future.

Speaking of that, good posts Gordo. : )


JCK Says:

I’m one of those people who find Federer “boring”. It’s a subjective opinion. Anyone is entitled to a subjective opinion no? Federer’s game just doesn’t hold my interest. Hence, “boring”. I didn’t say he’s not good.

BTW, before you start saying I don’t know tennis, I started watching tennis during the time of Edberg, Becker, Wilander, Sampras, Agassi and Chang days. I know all the different styles, shots and strategies.

And if I remember correctly, many people tuned off tennis during the so-called Federer era. I remember reading articles asking whether the TV rating declines were caused by Federer’s dominance. Maybe I wasn’t alone in finding Federer “boring”. I used to find his personality blah and now I find him self-centered and ungracious. One reason why I find Nadal far more appealing is that he’s the anti-Federer. I love that. It’s a subjective thing.


Cindy_Brady Says:

nadine,

I agree with you. Also, Nadal’s serve and hard court game have steadily improved while Noles and Murray’s have not.

Federer still can be playing at the top of his game for a few more years, he stays virtually injury free and is always in top shape. Djokivic and Murray seem more fragile and they may be the ones who won’t last even though they are younger.

And Delpotro will be back next year. He’s the one who has the mental strength, huge serve and penetrating power ground strokes to consistently beat both Federer and Nadal in a grand slam matches. Throw in Soderling too.

DelPotro > than the two head cases joker and murray.


madmax Says:

Fed is Afraid,

blah blah blah.

Here is a reminder for you:

Everyone talks about the 16 slams, 23 straight Slam semis and 18 of 19 finals. But his utter dominance at non clay Slams often get overlooked.

Consider these streaks:

A. Won 11 of 12 non clay Grand Slams (2004-2007, won all but the 2005 Australian Open. That’s four years and winning all but one non clay Slam!)

B. Won 8 consecutive non clay Grand Slams (05 W-07 USO)

C. Went 12-0 in his first 12 non clay Grand Slam finals.

D. From 2004-present, has made the finals of 17 of 19 non clay Slam finals.

E. From 2004-2007, won 7 of 8 hardcourt Slams.

F. From 2004-present, has won 14 of 19 non clay Slams.

Now tell me who you think is the better hard court player and provide some evidence rather than scare tactics because it makes YOU feel better.


Cindy_Brady Says:

I predict Rafa will beat Soderling in the U.S Open finals. Yes, I think Soderling will upset Federer in the Qs.

Soderling isn’t afraid of Fed and has the game to blow him off the court. He probably should have beat him last year but it was a night match and a little crazy.

Fed fans, watch out for Robin.


Gordo Says:

If Fed meets Soderling get your popcorn early cause early describes the exit Soderling will make. If he wins one set I will be shocked.

Soderling does not have the touch to beat an in form Fed on hard court.

And I will be surprised if Nadal makes the finals, even though he has a pretty good hard court record against the remaining 7 guys in his half. Remember, Rafa is a guy who has not won a hard court tournament for over a year and a half – even those little ones that no one talks about or remembers.

If Rafa makes the final I think it all depends on how grueling his semi-final match is. If it is a hard setter he could be in tough in the final.

Shaping up to be good, though.


Cindy_Brady Says:

Gordo,

Soderling will not need touch to beat Federer. It wasn’t touch that beat him at the FO. Robin needs to serve huge and keep constant pressure on Fed’s back hand with his big flat ground strokes. Also keep his unforced errors low.

The Soderling that Fed beat so many times in a row no longer exists. It’s really Soderling who dictates play in that match up. Think about it.


nadline Says:

JCK Says:

I’m one of those people who find Federer “boring”. It’s a subjective opinion. Anyone is entitled to a subjective opinion no? Federer’s game just doesn’t hold my interest. Hence, “boring”. I didn’t say he’s not good.

BTW, before you start saying I don’t know tennis, I started watching tennis during the time of Edberg, Becker, Wilander, Sampras, Agassi and Chang days. I know all the different styles, shots and strategies.

And if I remember correctly, many people tuned off tennis during the so-called Federer era. I remember reading articles asking whether the TV rating declines were caused by Federer’s dominance. Maybe I wasn’t alone in finding Federer “boring”. I used to find his personality blah and now I find him self-centered and ungracious. One reason why I find Nadal far more appealing is that he’s the anti-Federer. I love that. It’s a subjective thing.

September 6th, 2010 at 1:52 pm

JCK, have you been reading my thoughts?

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