Federer, Nadal Six Sets from Sunday Showdown at US Open, Can Soderling Spoil it?
by Sean Randall | September 8th, 2010
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We are oh so close to an historic Roger Federer v. Rafael Nadal Sunday US Open final. I don’t want to jinx it this soon but honestly, everything is pointing in that direction. Although there are some obstacles still left.

Last night Nadal did his part demolishing his good friend Feliciano Lopez 6-3, 6-4, 6-4 in a match that ended just after 1am.

“I was ready for the late start and the hardest thing was for the fans to be here,” said Nadal who has yet to lose serve at the US Open. “This year I am healthy and hope to continue to play well and have my chances. To be in quarterfinals of the US Open without losing a set and without losing a serve, two things must work really well, the concentration and the serve.”

In the quarterfinals Thursday – likely Thursday night (more on that later) – Nadal meets another friend and countryman, Fernando Verdasco. Verdasco won what was arguably the match of the tournament (he called it the “greatest match of his life”) in a fifth set tiebreak win over his Spanish buddy David Ferrer out on Armtrong Tuesday evening.

The match went over 4-hours, 20-minutes and Verdasco needed every minute of it to overcome a 2-0 set hole to edge Ferrer. Verdasco, who appeared to be cramping at times, now has less than 48 hours to recover and refuel for a quarterfinal meeting with the fresh Nadal. To make things worse, Verdasaco is 0-10 career against Rafa winning just three sets. Advatange Nadal.

Ferrer-Verdasco wasn’t the only epic on the second Tuesday. In the afternoon, Stan Wawrinka out-toughed Sam Querrey on Arthur Ashe in a roller coaster ride of a match. It wasn’t great tennis but in the end Wawrinka was the mentally stronger and fitter player in 7-6, 6-7, 7-5, 4-6, 6-4 win over Sam.

After consecutive four-hour matches, the win puts Wawrinka into his first career Slam quarterfinal against a relatively fresh Mikhail Youzhny tomorrow.

I have to feel for Sam who again comes up just short on the big stage and in a big moment. As I’ve said before, winning events in Memphis or the smaller events are great ways to fill up the trophy room, but the goal has to be higher. Sam’s loss also means no American men made it into the US Open quarterfinals for a second straight year.

“I don’t set my goals on what round do I want to make it to,” said Querrey. “It’s more just how I play and attitude out there and doing the right things. This has been a great week, and I left it all out there today and I didn’t get to the quarters. I’m bummed, but I did everything I could.”

As for today, this afternoon it’s Novak Djokovic against Gael Monfils. With all the talk of a possible Federer-Nadal final, Djokovic is again under the radar. But the Serb should not be taken so lightly.

Might Novak have turned the corner when he overcame the heat, the 2- set deficit and his countryman Victor Troicki in the first round? Quite possible. Since then Djokovic’s been ultra-sharp and I think today he notches his fifth straight win over Monfils.

Credit to Gael who seems to have finally stepped up his game this week, but I’m not convinced he can play enough offensive tennis today to beat Djokovic who I think will run the Frenchman around like a yo-yo.

In the evening, Federer gets a rematch with Robin Soderling. The Swede stunned Federer on a dreary, wet and windy day at the French Open. And last year in this round at the US Open, Soderling had Fed on the ropes in the fourth set.

“Look, he’s playing really well,” Federer said of Soderling. “We played each other last year here in the quarters, if I’m not mistaken, was the round. Started off well. Got off to a great two sets to love lead. He came back. We had two breakers after that. I expect it to be really tough, especially now that he’s gotten a taste of how to beat me. It’s up to me to clean up my game and put in a good performance.”

Said Soderling, “I think it’s always a very nice feeling to play against the world’s best. You know, it’s matches like that you train for. It’s matches like that I’ve been dreaming of playing since I started playing tennis, you know, playing at the big courts in the big tournaments. It’s very fun.”

This time around Federer has the services of Paul Annacone and he seems to be playing pretty well. Robin’s had an uneven summer since his French Open final, but he’s incredibly dangerous on any surface and in any sitatuation. If the powerful Swede serves well and connects with his forehand he can take out Roger for a second straight time (remember he had lost 12 straight to Fed). But I still see Fed staying perfect under the lights in Ashe.

In the women’s quarterfinals today I think both matches will be routine, straight-setters with Vera Zvonareva and Caroline Wozniacki coming out ahead.

WEDNESDAY US OPEN SCHEDULE

Arthur Ashe Stadium 11:00 AM
Not Before:1:00 PM
Kaia Kanepi(EST)[31] vs. Vera Zvonareva(RUS)[7]
Gael Monfils(FRA)[17] vs. Novak Djokovic(SRB)[3]

7:00 PM
Caroline Wozniacki(DEN)[1] vs. Dominika Cibulkova(SVK)
Robin Soderling(SWE)[5] vs. Roger Federer(SUI)[2]


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386 Comments for Federer, Nadal Six Sets from Sunday Showdown at US Open, Can Soderling Spoil it?

TGiT Says:

Let us hope the women’s matches move quickly.

I hate to see Fed or Sod start a match at 11 PM.


TGiT Says:

You know I remember when Sod beat Fed at the French and he got hammered by Nadal.

Maybe the same tonight? The Sod is tough but how do you lose a set to Montanes? Fed is to hard court as Nadal is to clay.

Sod had his chance last year and could not close the deal. I suspect the same today as Roger seems way more focused and better prepared.

On another note, should Fed see Nadal in the final, when was the last time Fed would have played three lefties before the final?


Bernardo Says:

This is the one day it will not have a big impact (a late start), because the winner doesn’t have to be back in the court until saturday!


stu Says:

Did Fed really attend “Fashion’s Night Out: The Show” in NYC last nite? The nite before his quarterfinal match? Somewhat hard to believe!


Ben Pronin Says:

Nadal’s fastest serve at Wimbledon was 127mph. It may not seem like a big jump, but going from 127 to 135 is pretty significant.


jane Says:

Ben, we answered you on the other thread. BTW, Nadal is not hitting “135 mph” regularly.


sheila Says:

i’m soooooo hoping federer pulls out the win over solderling, but am very nervous about it. i am a huge federer fan, in my heart i hope he wins this event, but my realistic side says nadal will take this. what bothers me if federer cant get thru soderling or even djokovic i dont no if he can win another major. i have 2b honest in saying if nadal takes this, which he will, he has an easy draw the rest of the way, then he will overtake federers slam record, i think. my prediction: nadal wins this, he will also win australia, french 4sure & wimbledon again. i just dont c any one stopping him in a major. not 1 player has the belief that they can win 3 sets off of nadal, whereas federer, its been proven this year. federer says he is shooting 4 20 majors & i would love 2c that, but i think it is nadal who will win 20. hes got so much time left in his career & lets face it, federer is losing more & more. i hope i eat my words on this prediction & federer does win 20 majors & wins this us open. nothing would make me happier, tennis wise that is.


grendel Says:

sheila, I’ve got used to the fact that Nadal is bound to overtake Fed’s slam record. As you said, he’s young, and all that injury stuff has been shown to be overblown. But you know, it doesn’t really matter. What about people whose favourite is neither Federer nor Nadal – are they supposed to beat themselves up because there’s no hope whatever of them getting more than a few slams at most? Of course not. We like a player because something about his play especially appeals to us – not, surely, because we have made the calculation that he’s going to be numero uno in the solar system/local galaxy/cluster of galaxies/universe/multi universe/multi multi universe and so forth. Not at all. His brand of tennis just appeals to us more than anybody elses’. And that will always be true. Allelujia.


David Says:

Sheila

Let’s put it this way. The odds of Federer winning 20 Slams are probably 1.5 to 1.

The odds of Rafa doing it are probably 10,000 to 1.

Does that make you feel better?

Roger has the clear edge and always will in the Slam race because his game is more suited to fast courts. If 3 out of the 4 Slams were on clay, it would be another story.


madmax Says:

oh sheila. stop it! does it really help when you come on with such negativity?

How about being a bit more positive about federer? He is in a better position now because he is playing hard court and he has annacone.

You should read some of I am it’s posts about stats on federer and the fact that he is playing much better this year than he did, I believe in 2008 – I am it, where are you?

Have you watched any of his matches? If you have, (especially against Melzer yesterday), then you can say with some confidence, he is playing brilliantly. There is no reason why he should not win today. After that, we can look at the SF’s against perhaps novak? – there is still a long way to go before the final.

Should federer reach the final and should nadal get there too, then I believe Federer will win and put all those doubts to rest. He is the best player out there, I don’t care what rafa fans say who come to scourge his accomplishments. It’s unreal when this happens.

Federer isn’t losing more and more. You have to follow his track record in a) slams b) the last two tournaments.

Come on Sheila.


madmax Says:

I think sometimes people forget how competitive federer is and how much he enjoys the challenge. If he isn’t scared, why should any one be?

C’mon Federer!


David Says:

Here are a few stats to think about as this tournament winds down.

Fed’s record in hard court Slam finals is 9-2. In those 2 losses – in 09 AO and 09 USO – his first-serve percentage in each match was 51 percent, which is unheard of for Roger. He’s typically above 60 percent.

In those matches, he was broken 7 times by Rafa and 5 times by Delpo, also very rare and certainly due in large part to the poor serving.

Conclusion: It’s probably going to take a very bad serving day for Roger to lose here. Which is possible, but unlikely because he’s usually so consistent with his first serve.


Kimberly Says:

just got home and from what i see another really poor quality match. these women’s matches are just sorry. total breakfests.


mem Says:

David,

you are such a two-faced so-called rafafan. i have read many of your comments and in every one of them your pessimism rings loud and clear when it comes to nadal. i can read your strong desire for nadal to fail. you play both sides. you are so afraid nadal is going to succeed. i get so sick of your pretense! you have been worried every since nadal’s first match, since you discovered his serve had increased. why are you so spineless that you don’t want anyone to know who you really favors, which is, roger federer. no one cares who you support. it doesn’t help anybody win a match.

one thing i despise is some phony comments!

you don’t know squat about what’s going to happen in this tournament, nor do you know the future of any player, no one knows. it doesn’t matter what one thinks, writes or predicts, what matters is actual results.

you just run from thread to thread trying to impress fedfans. news flash, you are not impressive! it’s clear that you don’t wish nadal any good, so drop the act!


Nina Says:

Today is a very bad day to play tennis. USO needs a roof very urgently.
Luckily I think strong winds benefit Novak against Monfils…


fedeRER Says:

is it me or is this set between kanepi and zvonareva kind of de-ja-vu of kilisters set yesterday aka cr&@#$#*P!!!!!!


WTF Says:

With Murray out, and Del Potro not playing, as well as losses from Berdych and Roddick, this is Nadal’s best chance to make a final. If he doesn’t do it this year, it may never happen. You don’t get this lucky every year.

He’s got a Spaniard and then Youzhny/Wawrinka to get past. A good draw at first glance. The problem is, Nadal is just not that good, and these kind of players ARE a threat to him. At least on this surface. Youzhny has beaten him before, maybe even at this event. Verdasco hasn’t, but he usually comes close, and that might be enough.

His record against Youzhny is 3-4 on hard courts. He has yet to drop a set to Wawrinka in 6 matches on any surface, so he’ll probably want to hope Wawrinka beats Youzhny.

Federer would be laughing if he had a draw like this.

Federer is a lock for the finals. Djokovic can’t beat him at a major unless Fed has mono.


David Says:

mem

You don’t know me and you have no idea who I root for or why, so your comments are way off base.

Grendel said something above that applies to me as a fan:

“We like a player because something about his play especially appeals to us – not, surely, because we have made the calculation that he’s going to be numero uno in the solar system/local galaxy/cluster of galaxies/universe/multi universe/multi multi universe and so forth. Not at all. His brand of tennis just appeals to us more than anybody elses’. And that will always be true.”

That’s how I feel about Rafa. His game, his whole energy and attitude, his fighting spirit and constant desire to improve appeals to me more than any other player, past or present.

That doesn’t change the fact that I just think it’s obvious that Federer is the more talented player and that, unless the Tour suddenly gets turned on its head and most of the important events are played on clay, Rafa isn’t going to get a sniff at Federer’s records. That’s just the way tennis is and I accept that.

I do want Rafa to be undisputed clay GOAT though and hopefully that will happen in either 2012 or 2013 with his 7th FO title.


stu Says:

cmon zvonareva do this in 2, and let nole-monfils get started!


Skeezerweezer Says:

The character assassination by mem continues…..Rafa would be ashamed…..


paula Says:

those were some decent rallies. Go Vera! Those clips from her meltdown last year were funny.


LoveTennis Says:

I really hate Fed fans, they are so stupid to do their own calculations, why they dont have good mentality to appreciate the others whoever play against Federer. Any guy who beat Federer, Fed fans come up and say, oh he won already so many slams blah blah ….. blah. I dont hate Federer, he is a great player tho, he deserver credit, due to this sick Federer fans, I really hate to see Federer win, but I would love to see him cry :-) the only guy who made him cry is Mr.Nadal, couple of times, when Federer lost to Del or Djokovic, he didnt cry tho if I remember correctly. Mr.Nadal is a trouble maker to Federer, I dont need Nadal to win that many slams like Federer, but I dont know every time Federer face Nadal, Federer gonna loose, Nadal will have that record against Federer, beating the best. Period.


Skeezerweezer Says:

Hilarious “alias” post lol


paula Says:

that love tennis post is a joke, right?


super man Says:

love tennis :

you are a moron. rafa made fed cry? really ? did mem or some other nut-case rafa fan tell you that? fed cried because he was overwhelmed by the melbourne crowd’s love and applause for him.

just a fact : fed has more fans than nadal. even in paris where rafa owns fed, fed is the more popular champ.

get used to it or go hide in tennis trash.


i am it Says:

“To be in quarterfinals of the US Open without losing a set and without losing a serve.”

Rafa looks scary and sounds scary.

For today,
Obviously I would like to see Roger and Djoko play the semi one more time.
Roger is safe to get there (predicting straight set); Djoko will have to be a bit more cautious (in 4).


super man Says:

skeezer :

looks like mem’s gone to tennis trash to call for back-up. lol…. now watch the loonies descend on tennis-x.


Ike Says:

Gael is already entertaining the crowd…Great moves!


mem Says:

David,

you are just what say you are, a Fake! you can dress up any way you want and put a hat on, but you will still be a fake!


super man Says:

skeezer @ 3:35 lol…..

paula @ 3:38 :

sadly no. welcome to planet rafa.


Ike Says:

paula

yes i lost the bet to u, i owe you $100
(if that was serious in-person bet, i wudn’t do it, why would i put my money on Fish? saying great things about him doesn’t cost anything, right?)


Ike Says:

Gael vs. Nole, i hope this will be 5 set, (winners more than UEs) match…


super man Says:

take cover people – attack of the loonies.


stu Says:

Nole looking good from the get go!


David Says:

mem

You’ve got to work on your trolling skills. Keep trying. I’ll let you know when you come up with a half-decent troll post.


grendel Says:

Quite incredible first point which Monfils should – I venture to say – have won. However, Djokovic looking sharp in rest of first game. This match looks like it’s going to be a cracker.


Polo Says:

Rafa is good but he is still 8 majors behind Federer. Whether he will catch up or not does not bother me at all. When he gets to 14, I would like to see how he plays against the rest of the field. If he passes Federer’s record, that will be great and I would be happy to see that because that will be some achievement.

But at this time, even though Federer is not the same as the younger Federer, he remains as one of the two best players in the field. And 16 is closer to 20 than 8 is to 16.


David Says:

Le Monf is a freak. He didn’t just try that passing shot I saw on my screen. Maybe it was an optical illusion or something.


stu Says:

Uh oh. He’s too excited…can’t be good…


grendel Says:

this match is exciting already, although I was pissed at Monfils attempting that trick shot after he’d just broken. Served him right if he’d got broken back.


i am it Says:

Yeah, Stu, Djoko has looked careless and fidgety in the 1st 5 games. He missed easy shots from both wings and paid the price. If the pattern continues, …
Djoko has to take into account the wind and take time to position for clean a shot.


stu Says:

grendel – i agree. bit insulting to Djokovic. but if you thought that would light a fire under him you’d be wrong!


super man Says:

i think, if the laws of physics permitted it, monfils would love to play rally in this match from behind the baseline in his backyard tennis court in france.

unfortunately he will have to compromise his strategy and make-do with the baseline in ashe stadium for now. so sad


i am it Says:

Djoko is out of sync. He has to find his groove like in no time.
Only one thing positive going with Djoko, i.e. he is attacking Monfils’ forehand deep in the corner.


super man Says:

good luck to djoko stu. i am rooting for him :)


grendel Says:

the defence of both these guys is just nuts. Monfils hit one screamer, Djokovic somehow gets it back. Despite his antics, I think Monfils is serious – after all, you don’t change everything overnight.


stu Says:

well that explains the way he’s playing today, super man! :P


stu Says:

Wow, Gael’s focus is surprising me!


Ike Says:

i am it

yeah agree, i think eventually Gael’s FH will break down..


stu Says:

some excellent points so far!


Ike Says:

grendel

yeah, so far it’s great defence….


i am it Says:

Djoko broke back. I am glad he did, but he should have done in the 1st or 2nd chance. He missed those chances cuz’ he was too tentative.
The point is he has to find a mid point between haste and tentativeness. Then, he will be in a strong position.


Ike Says:

grendel

i guess u r Brit, here is one consolatory info for u (& other Brits). Lendl was 24 years old when he won his first GS (the oldest among the great to win the first GS), Murray is 23…hope Murray will have career like Lendl.


stu Says:

if djoker wants be considered a potential USO champion, he needs to take this set 7-5


mem Says:

David,

actually “troll” is good considering some of the names i have been called.

you are late catching on my friend; haven’t you heard? anyone who speaks in rafa’s behalf, says something positive about him, anyone who shows up on this site to congratulate him on anything he’s done and anyone who stand up to these federer lunatics is called a “troll.” you will have to be more original than that.


stu Says:

I can’t believe he missed that opportunity


Duro Says:

Novak is unnecessary nervous and frustrated when incapable to convert, but actually there’s no need. Gael absolutely doesn’t have anything needed to beat him today. He should just keep playing and getting the job done.


David Says:

I don’t even know what “Fed lunatics” you’re talking about. Seems like 99 percent reasonable people here. Maybe most posters want Fed to win, but others want Rafa.

If anything, I think the Fed fans here are overly respectful of Nadal. For example, I don’t see how people think he’s the favorite here when he’s never made a final before. I don’t see how anyone can see him as a threat to Fed’s records when he’s never won 3 Slams in a year. But that’s just my opinion. Think whatever you want.


super man Says:

2 to go stu, for a 4th consecutive us open semi. this is his favorite surface for sure.


Nina Says:

This will be a grueling match, I hope Novak is not more tentative on the net. He has to rush forward if he wants to win this. So far so good.


Nina Says:

This strong wind makes it impossible to play tennis, it’s a crime that a grand slam has no retractable roof.
Monfils couldn’t even serve, it’s ridiculous.


stu Says:

was djokovic being reprimanded, or was it just a chat with the umpire?


grendel Says:

cheers, Ike. I’m not specifiaclly a Murray fan, but the shades of tribalism linger within me.
Djokovic playing well against a Monfils who’s really trying.


andrea Says:

monfils already looks exhausted. not a good sign.

the fed vs nadal argument can go on forever. personally, and this will obviously change as fed ages, fed is the only guy that can really push nadal and nadal knows it. (save for clay).

mentally, nadal seems to have the edge. don’t know why fed seems to come up on the short end in that department, although we can pontificate that he also knows that nadal is one of the few players that can really push him around consistently.

some players have bullied fed on occasion, in the past 2.5 years especially, but he hasn’t had the same losing ratios to anyone except nadal.

both nadal and fed look sharp and fit in this tournament; more so than anyone else. be great to see them battle for the final.

but who knows what verdasco has up his sleeve? if he’s not too tired!!!


stu Says:

wow why is Nole so agitated. he’s doing okay given the conditions!


stu Says:

A combination of inexperience, frustration with the wind and inability to contain his excitement will be Monfils’ undoing.


super man Says:

monfils is too defensive.


Nina Says:

Monfils is a very frustrating player, he gets everything. Nole needs to be patient.


stu Says:

yea…but it must be fun to try to outwit him, no?!


Nina Says:

Forehand winners:
Djoko 17
Monfils 2
That says it all.


sonic Says:

don’t really see to much problems for Federer if it continues to be as windy as it is at the moment. Soda’s huge ball toss will be all over the place.

Monfils is a talentless clown, always was and always will be. a serious player always puts him in his place.


Nina Says:

Ugly tennis, but Djoko goes through. I can’t complain, can i?


David Says:

Djoko has to be tired. That’s the only explanation for why looks so unhappy out there despite having such a big lead. He should be on cloud nine about winning a quarterfinal match so easily.


Skeezerweezer Says:

This run for Novak so far has got to please his fans after a tough spring/summer by his standards. Way to go Nole! Additionally, Monfis is good for the game, I hope he just doesn’t make a run here and disappear….


Nina Says:

Novak’s primal scream, that’s what i wanted to hear, lol. This match is in the bag.


blank Says:

I have just one word to describe Monfils.

“Waste.”

Waste of talent, waste of athleticism, waste of energy…


stu Says:

David, I think Nole was looking for some good practice this match (prior to playing Fed), but the wind is getting in the way of his shots as well as Monfils’ so he cannot evaluate himself. That’s why the frustration.


Skeezerweezer Says:

Congrats to all Novak fans here, Duro, stu, Ollyk, etc. :). Into the semi’s, good stuff!


tennisfansince76 Says:

re sonic you are 50% right. Monfils has plenty of talent. but, unfortunately he is a clown. he has played some flaky tennis out there.


Nina Says:

4 semifinals in a row, not bad, huh?


Voicemale1 Says:

To Sean’s point on whether we’ll get Fedal, Chapter 22. Federer has the tougher road by a fair bit, and although he hasn’t dropped a set yet, he hasn’t been playing anything near his yesteryear best either. He’s been coughing up Break Point chances left and right the whole tournament (13 chances to Melzer alone who took two of them). If he does that against Soderling tonight he’s in serious trouble. Since it looks like Djokovic at this moment is likely to get through, Federer faces the prospect of two long matches against guys who know how to beat him. In fact, Djokovic is almost the forgotten man among the Top 4 getting lost in all the Murray Hyping (and let’s hope THAT’S done with until Mopey Murray actually DOES come through to win a Major, which might not ever happen). Novak’s gone about his business quietly, without any drama or hyperbole. He’s beaten everone remaining on fast courts before. He’s clearly a threat, even to the 29 year old version of Federer.

There’s no other way to describe the Nadal run to the Quarters other than remarkable. To a guy who was playing on a surface in an event that was supposed to upend him at any time, you’d have gotten REALLY long odds beforehand that we’d get to this stage of the Open and bet that it was Nadal who’d be the one who hasn’t dropped serve yet. It’s clear he had no real designs on winning either Canada or Cincinnati, but used the time as practice time to make the full court press to win this one. The next two rounds are on his racquet – Verdasco will wilt from last night (and in fact for the whole year), Youzhny will be out classed, and Wawrinka might not get through the match, seeing as he already has his thigh taped now. As long as Nadal is moving as superbly as he has been all tournament these guys have virtually no chance. The way Nadal’s been playing up to now is better than anything anyone else in the draw has done up to this point. It could well be his moment to take it all, no matter who he’d face on Sunday.


Skeezerweezer Says:

David,

Like grendel, IMO you are actually a better tennis fan than some others. Your tennis world doesn’t evolve around one guy, and are willing to analyze, criticize, other players and talk “tennis”, and STILL have a fav. Now that is enough of blowing smoke up your a$$, lol

out


MarkoPolo Says:

Not bad at all!!! I underestimated him….. Good win in tough conditions. Let’s see how Sod and Fed handle those conditions???? Very happy for Nole, awaiting for the winner of the Fed, Sod match in his boxes, with a blanket and a cup of hot chocholate milk!!!!


Skeezerweezer Says:

@voicemale1,

welcome back. nice post :). Can’t say I would dis agree, although I am hoping for a Fed GST.


i am it Says:

Tactically masterful performance from the Serb. He becomes the 1st to book a spot in the semi.
Congrats to Djoko and his fans, esp. Duro, Sar, Jane, Ben, and others.
4th semi in a row, inc. the ’07 final. Must feel good to have the 2nd best record among the top 20 (or, among all active players, is it?).


fed is afraid Says:

it is pathetic there is no roof, and no day of rest between semi and final. that’s why uso is the lamest of the slams.


Duro Says:

Skeez, thanks. I am it, you too. Very hard to watch the match. I don’t like Novak being so nervous. Completely unnecessary. He spends his nerves too much.

About tactics, I agree with you, i am it. Clever, precise serve (deliberately not as much risky because of the conditions), forcing the net (despite so many misses), going for the shots… Novak was clearly better and he is the better player after all.

Nice success so far. Last four standing… Fourth time for Nole (he’s not familiar with anything else here). Everything is possible. I wish Fed across the net. That’s how the champions become ones.


grendel Says:

Well, that was a real tennis lesson Djokovic handed out to Monfils. It’s true, the wind was a disaster for Monfils in the second set, but Djokovic took it in his stride, and he certainly would have won anyway. Still, Monfils got to a quarter, no mean feat, and let’s hope he can build on that.

Skeezerweezer – thankyou for your surprising compliment.

Voicemale1 – I largely agree with you (makes a change, huh?), but I hope you’re wrong about Verdasco. He does, after all, have 48 hours to recover.


David Says:

Thanks Skeezer

I think most people here are the same. They have their favorite but respect everyone. After all, these are the best in the world we’re watching so if we can’t appreciate their play there’s something wrong with us as tennis fans.


jane Says:

Wow! So happy about the scoreline (another one that looks as though it went from tough to less tough as the match wore on). Unfortunately I saw none of the match, but between classes I had a bit of a break and watched scores, saw that Nole took the first set tiebreak, which was a relief, but then I had to go off to class again.

However, Ben and dari, you’ll get a laugh out of this. I gave a lecture in my next class (which is in an ‘enhanced’ classroom, meaning a podium with computer, DVD, internet access etc,) but then I decided to have them write something for me so, lol, I could follow scores!! Ha! Instructors do it too (when/if they can). I logged on and it was 4-2 for Nole in the third. It seemed like quite a struggle for him to hold during that game, and likely a pretty crucial hold so as not to let Monfils back into it. He did.

WOOOOOOOOT! He’s made the semis again! Anything else is gravy.

David, yes, sometimes it is very tough to be Nole’s fan, and especially throughout the last year with the serving and allergy woes, it has been frustrating. But you know, we just like who we like, right? I was struck by Nole’s tennis ever since I saw him play Rafa at IW and then again at Miami in 2007. Even before that, in 2006, I started to follow Murray, but he was sidelined by injury a couple of times. I admire that these two, tortured though they sometimes are, have been trying their hardest to bust into the monopoly of the most consistently dominant (and superbly talented) duo ever at numbers 1 & 2. It has to get frustrating for them. And Rafa, well he just keeps improving. And Fed, well everytime people say he’s gone he comes right back at you.

I didn’t see today’s match, but during both the Blake and Fish matches, Nole was calm and focused on the court – no negativity at all. Maybe, as someone else (stu? Nina?) commented, it had to do with the wind?

BTW, thanks to Skeeze and i am it for the kind words.

I should get home in time to see Fed versus Soda! Can’t wait. My money is on Roger to come through.


stu Says:

Yes Duro, Nole needs to beat Fed in the semis and THEN win the championship if he wants to earn the tennis world’s respect.


Duro Says:

David, words of wisdom… Bravo.

I am it, you owe me one! You know what I’m talking about.


MJ Says:

So very tired of the whole Federer is the greatest ever…and no matter what anyone, esp Rafael does, if will never be as good as 2006 or whatever…One question about their number of slams is that Federer has played longer than Rafa…and I would honestly like to know if there is any value in the point that for several years, Roger didn’t have Rafa…but Rafa always had Roger? Does that mean anything in the number of slams argument?? Sorry to ramble, not alot of sleep…stayed up watvhing Feli/Rafa match….Not trying to be a jerk…love them both…would like an honest answer…


David Says:

I know now’s a popular time for some more Monfils bashing, after a pretty uncompetitive match. My $0.02 is that what he lacks more than anything is the ability to stand pretty close to the baseline and just bully players around the baseline and do it consistently.

It seems like he has his moments, but they’re like flashes in the pan. He hits a forehand or backhand Mach 10, but then he plays points much too defensively and hits too loopy and short.

In this day and age, I think it’s imperative to be able to hurt the opponent consistently off both forehand and backhand, employing both pace and spin. Obviously getting easy points with the serve is crucial as well. Monfils can hurt you with every shot, but he doesn’t have that “consistent” attacking baseline game that all the top guys have. If he had Nalby’s baseline game with his serve and speed, he would be deadly. But just having a big serve and lots of athleticism and speed is just not enough to make him a threat at any big tournament. That’s how I see it any way. I think it’s more that lack of baseline skill than absence of tactics that’s his biggest problem.


stu Says:

on the whole, this match disappointed in terms of entertainment value. the only exciting shot was Gael’s flying tweener attempt. and even that failed.


Duro Says:

Stu, no doubt about. As simple as that (but not simple at all, of course). We want Fed, we want Fed! Well, some of us, ha ha ha. I certainly do. I know Jane doesn’t. In Novak we trust!

Alleeez allez allez alleeeez, No1-leeee, No1-leeee…


Nina Says:

I agree. That’s why i can’t stand haters, who sadly troll in every tennis forum. I don’t hate anyone, how could I? I may dislike a certain style of play or someone’s attitude, but I can see the good things in everyone. And I have a profound respect for every athlete who puts himself out there, who fights through it all, because it’s such a difficult, demanding, competitive profession. I have real admiration for these players, for the tops of course, but also for the ones in the further rankings who have to deal with much worse conditions through their career, some of them not making any money at all or ever gaining fame and glory.


jane Says:

David @ 6:46 & Nina @ 6:55 – great posts. I’ll echo Duro, “bravo”.


i am it Says:

Duro, how can I forget? I owe me one, too. I get one by giving you one. And that is all good.


Ben Pronin Says:

MJ:

1) it’s not entirely true that Federer had a few years without Nadal. He won his first major in 03 and Nadal won his first only 2 years later. Federer had 4 of his 16 slams before Nadal scored his first. Since Nadal became a contender, he’s won 12. And don’t forget he played Nadal in the 06 Wimbledon final.

2) otherwise a very valid point. However, I think we’re getting to a point where Nadal might not have to worry about Rog as much. I think it’s very significant to note that the last 2 slams Nadal won were the first 2 he ever won without playing Federer.


skeezerweezer Says:

@Nina,

“Classic” post and rack it in the “Tennis-X Archives”

Shammmoonnn!


i am it Says:

Cheering for the Great Dane all the way through the final.
Zvonareva is my 2nd favorite primarily because she has intellect.


OllyK Says:

Congrats fellow Nole fans and thanks Skeezer. :)

I couldn’t watch the match but it looks like our boy is on the right way to take one more step this year! Aaand I’m not sure I want Fed that much in semis. Nole in the finals is just fine for me, whoever he beats in semis! :)

Ajde, Noleee!


Duro Says:

Ollyyyyy!!! In Novak we trust, remember! Let it be Fed! Do you want to be a fan of someone who can’t beat Fed or anybody else? I don’t. He did it 7 times with Rafa and 5 times with Fed.

Nole, in you we trust. Play, fight and win!!! Whoever you face.

Olly, believe and support! Cheers.

Good night, all.


Nina Says:

Thanks @Jane and Skeezerweezer!
Feels great to post in a forum full of reasonable and intelligent tennis lovers and connoisseurs. That’s rare these days…


i am it Says:

Ike,
response to your 4:33 PM about the oldest to win his first Slam:

Andre Gimeno was a couple of months short of 35 when he won his first.
Ken Rosewell was approaching 34 when he won his first.
Rod Laver, Andre Gomez, Goran Ivanisevic were approx. 30 at the time they won their first.


Kimberly Says:

Everyone congratulate Jane who is now #2 on our bracket challenge.


David Says:

i am it

Laver and Rosewall don’t belong on that list. Laver won the CYGS as an amateur back in 1962. He must have been around 22 or 23 at the time. Rosewall won the Australian Championships as an amateur in 1953 at age 19 or 20.


David Says:

Actually, Laver won the Australian Championships in 1960 at the age of 21 or 22.


N Says:

FEDERER will win 2010 US Open just like he won his SIXTH Wimbledon.


David Says:

Thank goodness there doesn’t appear to be a threat of showers tomorrow night. One year an unfortunate soul (probably Rafa, what am I saying?) is going to have the Thursday night spot and get completely rained out. That would mean basically playing almost half the tournament in the last 3 days.

Nice scheduling.


David Says:

N

Does that mean you’re predicting he’ll win the match despite not breaking serve for the first 4 sets or what?


sonic Says:

Is there any info on how long the winds in NY will keep on going? Are they expected on the weekend as well? I though the hurricane passed.

In Wozniacki vs Cibulkova match, the wind is crazy, i haven’t seen it this bad so far. Good think for Federer, he’ll get an easy match vs Soderling now, but it will be ugly tennis.


i am it Says:

David,
You are right.
My list is correct only in the context of First Grand Slam in Open Era by oldest.


jane Says:

Kimberly, you cannot be serious! I have to check it out!! : )


tenisbebe Says:

Well this has been a frustrating couple of days with the wind. Reminds me of the ’09 IW final where the wind drove Murray stir crazy but Rafa treated it as another challenge to overcome. If the wind continues to be a factor (30 mph gusts) thru Sunday, I would have a hard time not giving a check in the intangible column to Rafael regardless of the opponent in the SF’s & finals.


jane Says:

Speaking of wind, this summation of the Monfils vs. Djoko encounter describes the wind as a “protagonist” in the match; it was good for me to read as I understand some of Nole’s frustration:

http://www.usopen.org/en_US/news/match_reports/2010-09-08/201009081283988563483.html


dari Says:

Congratulations, jane, on a great bracket! Woot Woot!
On my way home to see the big men’s match! Goooo Roger!


stu Says:

Wow congratulatons jane!! I guess picking with ur heart is not such a bad idea when it comes to Nole!!


tenisbebe Says:

Changing the subject, last yr the USO experimented with putting the men first during alternating night sessions but I can’t recall a night this tournament when the men were up first.

Secondly, it’s interesting that whatever labor/tour disputes they had in the past, the WTA/ATP have had other sex chair umpires going on almost 2 yrs now (or so it seems to me). Such a silly thing to have made an issue of for so many years.


dari Says:

Tennisbebe how could you forget the late late dementieva/sour match just a few nights ago?!
Isner and youzhny played first then. Is there another nigjt this tourney?


jane Says:

It’s difficult not to like Woz. She’s a hard worker and clearly loves playing. Plus some amazing defense and good serving; she’s solid.

Soda and Fed on in a bit!


kimberly Says:

What’s everyones predictions on fed soda?

How many sets?


tenisbebe Says:

Dari – was out of town for the holiday weekend hence the reason I said “i can’t recall..” Yes that’s right Sam and Elena got off court after 1am yes? Glad to hear they are continuing this practice. If the women want equal pay for less work, they should in the very least have to put up with the inconvenient late nite schedule.


skeezerweezer Says:

contador,

Thanks for saying hi! :)


jane Says:

kimberly, I am guessing Fed in 4. Soda doesn’t sound very convinced that he can win; he said “it’s always nice to know I have one win against him.” Also, Fed has lots of experience with the wind in Arthur Ashe.


Kimo Says:

This could end in straight sets for Fed, but I say it is more likely it will end in four.


skeezerweezer Says:

Hi Kimberly,

How is your bracket doin? Mine sucks I think I have 100 points :(. This is why I don’t predict….I am like Sean….HeeeHeee….Shaaaamooon!


David Says:

I’ll go with Federer in 4 just like last year.


skeezerweezer Says:

Dang! Grudgingly I congratulate you Jane :(
(J/K). Also you must have worked the bracket with your head not your heart, as Muzza is out. I Picked Gulbis to be in the qtrs against Rafa, lol. Also Cilic to meet Fed in the qtrs, a double LOL.

Skeezer sucks! :(


kimberly Says:

Skeezer—I am currently number one by a hair. Nole v fed will determine a lot. Everyone picked murray to the semis at least so right now we r all losing points together.

Fed in 4 was my guess as well.


skeezerweezer Says:

So its a race between you and Jane? Where is the trash talkin? You two are too nice :)


grendel Says:

I only sat down to watch Wozniaki and Cibulkova to fill in the time before Fed/Sod (am resigned to no sleep tonight). But then I gradually started to get into it. There’s something curiously moving about Wozniaki. The giants like Sharapova hurl the world at her, and she calmly absorbs it all, before carefully considering where to put her next ball. Some people think this kind of defensive play is boring, but I don’t, I think it’s strategic. It’s extremely interesting to see a very, very good tennis player calmly negotiating her way through a hurricane.

However, it was Cibulkova who was the revelation to me. I’d never even heard of her, much less seen her. She was clearly utterly bemused by the wind, and lost the first set dismally. I thought: another boring, silly wash out. But then she began to fight back, and what’s more, to work out, insofar as that is possible, how to negotiate the wind. She’s a very busy, bustling, spirited little woman (yes, she is undeniably little) whose serve is barely more than functional and it’s hard to think it can improve much. But her groundstrokes are generally excellent, her fh spectacular. When you think of how the giants wind up their forehands with anguished grimaces, grunts and shrieks to deliver – admittedly – huge strokes it’s amazing to watch little Cibulkova. With the minimum of fuss, she dispatches her forehands to all corners of the court with astonishing power. She doesn’t go to the net much, but when she does, it’s not like most of the giants (absolutely not the Williams sisters, however, who are deadly at the net) who tend to find themselves there with a certain degree of surprise, as if they had unwittingly been propelled into foreign territory, and then wonder quite what to do, stab out a racket or something, presumably. No, not at all. She’s compact, precise and decisive. Any sensible coach is surely going to encourage her to do more of it.

I very much look forward to seeing Cibulkova again in conditions which are not so utterly absurd as to day. She’s a find.


jane Says:

skeezer, I’ll lose points; I picked a Murray vs. Nole final with Murray winning his first slam (but I picked Nole to win his second slam at the USO bracket challenge). So I will lose, no worries. In my mind I am thinking Fedal final already.

Soda a little aggravated on what J-Mac says was a bad call (should have replayed the point).


zinaldo Says:

Damn shankeror has made an appearance today.


Kimo Says:

Oh no…Oh nooooooo


jane Says:

Kimo, oh-oh, Gwen’s there! Mirka’s sharing mints with the girls; that’s a good sign for Fed.


contador Says:

my heart is breaking….not even a word of condolence for a martian moonball from the bracket stars–* insert cying icon*

i just left jane and kimberly congratulations on the “smack talk”

such a good loser i am.: )

now i go hide. i love both these players and don’t want either to lose!


contador Says:

* crying icon* make that


zinaldo Says:

Really if this pathetic roger turns up in the final against rafa then we better give the trophy to rafa already as there is no way he is going to be able to even take a set of the spaniard,no consistency anymore.


tenisbebe Says:

J-Mac is by far the most self-absorbed, master-of-the-obvious commentator. These boneheads in the states tend to forget who their audience is, knowledgeable tennis fans, not NASCAR knuckleheads who just happened to tune in….


Ike Says:

grendel

yeah, Cibulkova does have big FH. she is 21 years old, i expect her to rise in ranking.

you can c it on TV it’s windy, but trust me it is very windy, i went out to play for couple hours. It was nightmare! After few minutes/games, i started attacking net crazily, like never before, that’s the only strategy i had to win


contador Says:

oh my pleasure skeezer. i click on monikers in blue.

shout out to paula for her webpage too.

skeezer- you are in the bracket on tennischannel, right? wrong?


Ike Says:

contador

how is weather in Colorado?
so, r u excited about Tim Teebow with Broncos?


zinaldo Says:

Damn the serve and only that is keeping roger in this match.


tenisbebe Says:

Sod seems to be handling the wind slightly better than Fed so far. But they are on serve so kudos to both. THE GREAT ONE is in the crowd!!


Ike Says:

tenisbebe

since u mentioned “obvious” commentary from the commentators in States & NASCAR. How about John Madden’s NFL commentary? That’s torture, thank god finally he retired!


Kimo Says:

YESSSS COME ON ROGEEEERRRRRRR!!!!!

Can’t complain about his BP conversion now. WOn his first one.


David Says:

Not enough easy points on serve from Soda. Gotta give Fed credit though. What an amazing lob he hit in winning that 30-30 points.


Ben Pronin Says:

I don’t understand how he can execute such a perfect drop shot in these conditions. That’s just amazing.


Ben Pronin Says:

I also don’t understand how he’s connecting on so many aces while Soderling is barely getting a first serve in… and yet he’s faced a number of break points already. Soderling is swinging for the fences not unlike their FO encounter.


David Says:

Soda’s got to start serving better to have any chance. More like in that 3-5, 15-0 point.


kimberly Says:

I must admit I never root for fed as a nadal fan really but I am here kind of. I guess I am still dreaming of a fedal final and hoping they both can get there.

Soderling went five sets the first round with a qualifier and then lost a set to montanes who prob made his best slam appearance by making the fourth round. Not impressive.

Contador—when kaiser showed up to play last night in the rafa black people said someone came to play tonight. He says he served harder etc. So maybe its the black outfit accounting for the 135s?

Oh, the worst part is I’m a real estate agent and my assistant scheduled 3 open houses for me on sunday and two r empty with no tvs.


David Says:

Soda’s played a great first set, yet he’s still going to lose it. I’d expect his level to come down at some point, so unless he can win a couple points a game with the serve Fed’s bound to break 2 more times tonight.


Kimo Says:

Ben, let’s not forget that before Soda’s amazing run at the 2009 French Open, he was thought of as an indoor specialist, so obviously he doesn’t like matches where so many variables are involved, like the wind.

Of course he’s improved since then, but still.


zinaldo Says:

Nadal is winning the us open,there is something about him meeting roger in almost every final he has played and that is looking more likely that they are again going to meet and if nadal wins people will definitely be right to question roger as the greatest of all time if his rival beats him on his least favourite surface.

Roger is a much better player than rafa but mentally nadal is just stronger mentally and makes roger too nervous for him to beat him now days.


contador Says:

ike : )

i am in idaho- near yellowstone and just west of jackson hole, wy. but yes, the general vincinity of the “rockies” as in mountains not the baseball team.

tennis junkie is what i am and it kinda takes up my free time, ike. embarassed to admit, i don’t watch football and i have no idea who tim teebow is. but if i did, i’d be happy as there is no shortage fans or TV coverage. broncos and jazz country here-


Kimo Says:

That was a good set for Fed. He was tested but he persevered. I like that a lot.


tenisbebe Says:

Ike – Ha ha, yes Madden was another one, particularly when he was explaining something via the slow motion and would begin to sputter, repeating himself over and over. It was enough to make you want to choke him. I always mute him during the Bears games and turn on the radio for commentary.

Soderling is muttering to himself after that break…


jane Says:

Yep, Fed serving tremendously. This is why he wins the USO, and why he’s the favorite. Soda lost focus after that call, but his serve is just not getting him easy points.


Daniel Says:

Wow, after surviving some BP he close out his last 2 service games with 8 first serves, 7 unreturnable. He is foccused this week unlike we saw him the whole year.


kimberly Says:

Contador—-i loooove sun valley, used to go every winter and even sometimes in the summer. Now with a 3 year and a fivve year old I go to disney world.


zinaldo Says:

To me it seems like the thing roger must really work hard on is his serve because i can’t understand how his ground game has gotten so bad even if he is clearly older but i guess he would now then put in more work on compensating for his loss of foot speed.

Also he has that arrogance i hate in him almost never moving his feet whenever he has to hit a tough or easy shot,that is where nadal is better he is always making sure he moves his feet and not lazying around.


zinaldo Says:

Shank you very much says soderling,ridiculous the amount of times roger seems to be miss hitting his balls now days.


Gannu Says:

Hi fedfans

just chked the score..feddy got the first one.. i am so nervous.. i cant explain… just cant see the match as i am in office ;-(((( But i hope and pray that federer wins this entire tournament…

i have been reading all the nonsense written abt fed by the nadlites… The only way to shut them forever is to defeat soda, djoko and nadal in the final.. so they cant complain abt the cupcake draw and it would be even more insulting that Nadal had the easiest draw ever that he could imagine….

I am so appalled at everyone predicting fedex demise…and talks abt nadal winning 16+ GS is so premature…

Come on fed… i really want you to win this 17th GS and silence all ur critics (thats too much to expect i guess as you will always be judged by ur standard where mortals like nadla wont be judged)

Come on madmax, huh, skeez etc.. hope our man wins…


Kimo Says:

Luke Jensen just mentioned that the windiest match he ever say was the Fed-Agassi match in 04. I said that too a few days back.


Ben Pronin Says:

When does Federer not move his feet? Besides that, I agree. Soderling can clearly stay with Federer, if not beat him, from the ground. But Federer’s serve has been fantastic.


David Says:

Soda’s getting into way too many rallies on his service games. This match could be over in a hurry if he doesn’t get his serve going.


Ben Pronin Says:

Federer has always shanked shots. Plus it’s super windy. Soderling is failing to even make contact with some shots because the wind is taking the ball away. Jesus crackers, what’s with the uber hostility towards Fed?


kimberly Says:

That’s fed, he’s a big shanker. Has been for awhile now. I think he’s the only player that combines brilliance with horrendous shanks in ths same game. Whatever, its done ok for him.


David Says:

Someone mentioned the wind was going to play havoc with Soda’s ball toss and that’s maybe the biggest factor in this match so far.


Kimo Says:

WOW. A DF from Soda. Didn’t see that one coming.

He’s not serving well today. I mean he didn’t even serve any aces yet. That’s just insane.


Daniel Says:

Well David, you were right! Double fault Soda on break point.


Ike Says:

contador

jackson hole, wy…that’s where the Federal Reserve guys hold their annual “secret” meeting in August, right?


Ben Pronin Says:

“Verdasco meets fellow Spaniard, Nadal, who looks for his first US Open”

You’d think the promo would say Nadal meets fellow Spaniard seeing as how Nadal is obviously the bigger name for about a million reasons.


David Says:

Ben

I think it’s the opposite of hostility. I think Zinaldo wants Fed to win so badly that he’s only noticing Fed’s mistakes. I guess ignoring Soda’s.


Kimo Says:

Ben said:

“Jesus crackers, what’s with the uber hostility towards Fed?”

Well, I think it’s because a certain group of people who are rooting for a certain player just don’t want Fed to win today.


contador Says:

i lived in ketchum for several years Kimberly… long story. it’s only a 2 hour drive away though.

motor mouth jmac is making me more nervous than ever.

c’mon soda pop. make a match here.

i think soda will get rolling? BP soderling


David Says:

Dang, that was a sweet pass from Soda!! Maybe we could have a match after all.


Ben Pronin Says:

On the bright side, Federer has converted 100% of break points so far.


Skeezerweezer Says:

BJK comments, another confirmation of GOAT


zinaldo Says:

No hostility at all but to me when i look at roger i see someone who has a little bit believed his own hype,years ago david cahill said his backhand was a liability and he should be working on it so whenever his forehand start to fall off a bit he could still be a contender.

He doesn’t look like he trains much now days,which you can tell by how many shots he shanks but he does a lot more even on easiest of shots but he does clearly work on his serve as it seems to be the only thing that is still or almost clicking like in his prime.


Kimmi Says:

bad to be broken back fed. now soda will grow confidence again..


Daniel Says:

Damm, what a shot by Soda. I hate this super short returns. Ypou have too much time too think what to do with the ball. Even in second set.


Ike Says:

tenisbebe

so u r Bears fan, nothing against Bears but coz of Favre i m Vikings fan. But, i wud like to c my Pats win the SuperBowl this season, (i know it’s not gonna happen).

Btw, however stupid Madden’s commentary was, he was funny/hilarious.


jane Says:

For a while there, there was just not much happening from Soda’s side of the court, for e.g., not one ace yet.

I don’t get the “Fed not moving his feet” comment either; from my vantage point, Federer is moving fabulously, fastly, and fastidiously – no problems with the footwork that I can see.

The hostility, I think (?), is or was due to that call early in the match when Pascal apparently “changed his mind” (per Pam Shriver); that seemed to rattle Robin and threw him off. Maybe he’s not really been focused since. Old Soda surfacing? He used to be a hothead so maybe?

But then Fed compounded the frustration with that awesome serving display at the end of set 1. Likely the wind contributed too. I don’t think it’s personal, in other words, Ben.

Anyhow, that last game Soda showed some gumption to break back. Maybe this match’ll get more competitive. Hope so; the first set was over so quickly.


David Says:

zinaldo

I’m quite sure he’s working on everything all the time. Otherwise, there’d be no reason for him even being out there trying to win a tournament like this.


Kimo Says:

Skeezerweezer Says:

“BJK comments, another confirmation of GOAT”

Why what did she say?


contador Says:

now i am rooting for federer!

oh no bad biff into net.

soderling going to give the break back?

deuce


David Says:

Sheesh, Soda cannot get his serve in!! Figure this out, Robin.


Kimo Says:

Five consecutive point from Fed to break again. Feels gooooood.


kimberly Says:

Contador—i remeber driving through ketchum

Kimo–im a nadal fan rooting for fed (want fedal final so badly, hoping they both show up)

Zinaldo–fed has been a big shanker for at least two years.

But his serving is flawless.


Kimmi Says:

break from 40-0. incredible. now hold serve pleeeeeaassseeee!


David Says:

Fed’s defense has been huge tonight. That’s why Soda and Berdych and players like that should never be favored against Roger.


Ben Pronin Says:

When did Cahill say this? Fed’s backhand used to be huge in his better days. I don’t know how you can say he doesn’t train. I saw him practice last week, so I can at least vouch for that. What do you mean believed in his own hype? The guy has set countless records including the all time majors won (by a man).

Skeezer, let’s be honest. If Nadal beats Federer on Sunday, Federer will officially no longer have any claim to being the GOAT. BJK praising Fed’s game doesn’t make him the GOAT, she just enjoys the way he plays.


Daniel Says:

100% it is Kimo. What was that second backhand slice, not even Murray can execute that shot like this. Amazing!
Soda has no confidance in his serve in this wind, it’s just not poping.


jane Says:

Oh Ben – doh! I thought you meant Soda’s hostility not zinaldo’s lol. So I guess my explanation above is for naught.

Bunch of errors from Soda and now he is broken AGAIN! He’s made just 40% first serves, P-Mac just said.

Have to say, I love the way Soda winds up to whack his forehand. It’s almost like a “pause” and then OOMPH!” And at the French Open, the “pause” was even longer and so I’d kind of gasp, just waiting to see him unload!


Ike Says:

i think thoughts of “can’t win” will start to pop into Soda’s mind now…


blank Says:

contador,

what do you mean “now i am rooting for federer!”?

Were you not rooting for him before ;)


zinaldo Says:

I doubt he is because at this stage of his career he must pretty think he knows everything,his ground strokes are certainly less effective than they used to be but it could be down to his footwork.

I hope he can at least make it to the final and then obviously beat nadal there but right now i am not sure he can.


guy Says:

by this point soderling had way more aces at the french…on clay

first set he won more on second serve. that’s like vintage rafa style


Ben Pronin Says:

Jane I was talking about the hostility from zinaldo not Soderling, haha.

Soderling will always be a hothead, he’s just gotten better at suppressing it. It’s not like Federer hasn’t shown frustration over the past few years himself, after all, he’s a huge hothead, too.


Kimo Says:

zinaldo said:

“He doesn’t look like he trains much now days,which you can tell by how many shots he shanks but he does a lot more even on easiest of shots but he does clearly work on his serve as it seems to be the only thing that is still or almost clicking like in his prime.”

He shanks so many shots nowadays? Obviously someone has either forgot about or didn’t watch the 2007 RG final. That was a shankathon. Obviously in today’s conditions anyone would shank, and I woun’t say Fed is shanking that much.

And this whole “Fed’s backhand is a liablity” talk in nonsense. Yes, it is his weaker wing, but it’s not a weak wing. Everybody has a weaker win, unless you play with both hands on borth wings ala Seles or Bartoli. Of course having a one handed backhand has hurt Fed against Rafa, but I can’t think of many other players who’ve capitalized on that other than Rafa. It might be his weaker wing, but it’s not an exploitable wing.


Skeezerweezer Says:

zinaldo,

Jealously will get u nowhere , even if Fed loses u can’ t take away the GS king, and all the other records. Besides, arrogancy is in the eye of the beholder, how about when everyone has to wait for Rafa to serve or play? C’mon. Just say u want him to lose for Rafa’s sake…


jane Says:

Ah well, this is over in three by the looks of it. Soda has let things slip away with all those errors and no first serves/aces. He was up 40-love or 40-15 and was broken.

Fed’s displayed some excellent defense and serving though.

Wow,the great one is complimenting J-Mac, “watching him while growing up”. LOL.


zinaldo Says:

I am sure he trains but no way as much or as long as he used to his younger or prime days and yes he did shank then but you always felt that even in the longer rallies he could or would end up on top but now days it is the total contrast of it.

Nadal on the other hand must or trains just as hard now as he did when he first started but i guess it must be because he feels less talented than roger so has to work twice as hard.


Skeezerweezer Says:

Fed with a beautiful shotmakin break, go Fed!


jane Says:

Soda looks bedraggled.


Ben Pronin Says:

“It might be his weaker wing, but it’s not an exploitable wing.”

That’s a pretty outrageous statement. Murray has broken it down on a number of occasions. The power that Berdych, Soderling, and Del Potro generate hurts his backhand more than his forehand. But yeah, I don’t see where this idea that it’s a terrible backhand came from. It used to be so-so, but by 03 it was booming. I’m saying, rewatch some old matches from 04, 05 and you’ll be amazed at the power he used to generate from that wing. He doesn’t have as much power nowadays but he used to hit huge.

Everyone is saying that these big hitters are a bigger reason for Fed’s struggles than his age, but I disagree. Federer isn’t able to generate as much pace as consistently as he used to. He used to be one of the biggest hitters, now he’s simmered down a bit and I don’t think it’s by choice.


contador Says:

ike

i dunno about the secret meetings lol they don’t share secrets!

you tell me? this area is crawling with ppl in august – visitors, conventions, touring groups….

is federer going to win this? i am not watching atm


Ben Pronin Says:

Nadal trains harder than everyone. The guy puts in intense 2 hour practice sessions during slams. That’s just…


guy Says:

federer has always shanked balls on occasion. he takes massive cuts from both wings and takes the ball early, so it happens.
his game was not better in the old days. ask nadal who recently spoke of how federer has improved a lot since he first played him.


kimberly Says:

No aces for soda? Wow.


zinaldo Says:

No i don’t federer is the reason i love tennis,federer only does my head because unlike nadal he isn’t a fighter as him winning depends so much on how well he is playing he doesn’t have the real toughness like a nadal.

Another thing that does my head about him is how nervous and scared like he plays against nadal,that despite his amazing tennis it is just nadal fearsome competitiveness that beats him.

I always cheer for roger but i admire nadal will to win which is something he could always count on whenever and whenever they play each other,which is why i would always say that nadal is always the favourite no matter the surface they play each other unless roger sees a shrink to solve his rafatism.


Ben Pronin Says:

Guy, where did Nadal speak of this? US Open interview?


Ben Pronin Says:

Haha, rafatism. Maybe nadalitis.


guy Says:

the players causing fed most trouble on tour last years are nadal,murray and djoker. none overpower federer.

berdych and soderling have been hitting like this for years and were beaten for years.

‘big hitting’ has nothing to do with fed losing.

players get better, have more belief, and win. that simple.


kimberly Says:

The wind seems to be settling down. Soderling does not. Yawn. At least the djoko-fed semi should actually be somewhat competitive.


Kimo Says:

Ben Pronin said:

“That’s a pretty outrageous statement. Murray has broken it down on a number of occasions. The power that Berdych, Soderling, and Del Potro generate hurts his backhand more than his forehand.”

I see where you’re coming from, but I wouldn’t say he lost because his backhand let him down. In his losses to these players, his serve or his forehand let him down and that’s why he lost. I meant that while it is a weaker shot than his forehand, I can’t think of many matches that he lost because his backhand let him down. I would even say that his backhand won him the Australian Open final this year. It reminded me of his backhand during his prime years in that match. Murray tried to break it down but it was solid as a rock.


zinaldo Says:

Guy.

What you mean would be that roger pretty much now days knows rafa game in and out so he is more aware of what he is going even if from the start we pretty much all knew what he was going to do(attack roger backhand)

But his game isn’t as good,i see roger like zidane who despite losing the minimal speed he had,he still kept his amazing skills,you can’t say that of roger over the years the only thing that seem to have improved his roger serve and today you can see what i am talking about.


Gannu Says:

so madmax our man is leading two sets to love.. hpow is he playing…cant see the match.. ;-((( Would love ur comments…whether he ha splayed very well so far.. his chances to go all the way etc….


contador Says:

blank -

you know i am a federer fan through and through. no tennis like roger federer’s.

i was and kinda am… for soderling

a certain percent of me wants a soderling win. 1) i would sincerely like to see a new us open winner- namely djokovic or soderling 2) i do not want the all popular “fedal” nightmare and fall-out

but who am i to decide, right:? LOL i think federer has other ideas.. and nadal… ugh if only delpo were here!


guy Says:

ben,

yeah they asked nadal at the usopen, he said how fed had improved a lot since 03, serve , backhand etc., the idea, basically that’s why fed could stay at no.1 for the period, he would keep improving. and nadal wants to try and do the same


Skeezerweezer Says:

zinaldo,

U talk like Fed was handed his GS titles on a silver platter and he didn’t work hard. Rafa has learned from the Feds model….


kimberly Says:

Soderling is a one trick pony.


jane Says:

Okay, this is not the match I thought it would be; I was expecting more rallies and tighter competition, 4 well contested sets, with Fed winning. But while Fed’s handling the conditions with aplomb, Soda is not. As P-Mac says “his power game is non-existent”. 10 winners from Soda’s side, to 18 UEs, and not one ace. Meanwhile Fed has 13 aces, 25 winners, and 22 UEs. Soda is being outplayed and not really in with a chance. That last shot was just wild! The wind must be throwing him off? Or what?


zinaldo Says:

Do you think that now days the reason why players like berdych,del potro,soderling have managed to beat roger is because he has gotten slower so can’t get to balls like he used to.

I would say that spin bothers roger more as it is the case with nadal,even this year at the madrid open where it was in fact nadal second serve which did the damage.


Ben Pronin Says:

Kimo, that’s the point, though. His serve and/or forehand let him down and his backhand couldn’t back him up. Also, think about those times his forehand let him down. He was making more errors with it, but why? Possibly because his backhand was letting him down, so he had to go for more on his forehand, thus producing even more errors on that side.

I don’t know, guy. Soderling and Berdych really took it to Federer at the FO and Wimbledon, respectively. It’s not like they didn’t hit big, so big hitting had something to do with it.


Kimo Says:

jane, the wind is definitely affecting Soderling. I love how Fed is handling it.


guy Says:

zinaldo,
the playing standard on tour has improved. nadal is better, murray is better, davydenko is better, even roddick is better…etc.
it may appear that a player like federer isn’t as good anymore because he isn’t winning as easily. but it’s all relative.

for example, even hewitt admits he’s a better player now than when he was domninating. the level just rises, that’s how it goes.


jane Says:

Fed’s footwork and speed have been outstanding. Just unbeatable. He’s so quick and his reflexes like lightening at times. Jeepers! : )


Ben Pronin Says:

Zinaldo, Nadal’s spin bothers Federer. Overall, the style that bothers Federer most is counter punching. But attacking players can hurt him, too (see Henman).


zinaldo Says:

Yes he worked hard for them titles i have never said he didn’t but i expected him to work even harder now that he is older and losing his physical gifts to compensate but he is clearly not doing so or not as much as you would expect someone who wants to be until the london olympics.

Because if he is struggling now from the back of the court you can’t expect him to be doing any better in 2 years time especially if carries on slacking in training.


Ben Pronin Says:

Guy, I still like watching 04, 05 Federer. He definitely hit bigger, went for more, flashier shots, etc.


Kimo Says:

Ben, I don’t think who’s of any player today who can win a match by falling back on his weaker wing. None.

And those times his forehand let him down, it was just that. It let him down. Remember the famous racket break? It was a total sitter in the middle of the court, or the final point in the Wimbledon 2008 final. He wasn’t redlining his forehand to relieve his backhand. His forehand just let him down.


guy Says:

ben,

berdych and soderling have been hitting like that for a long time.
remember berdych almost beat fed in five sets at the oz few years ago, and soderling had quite a few close matches with federer.
but confidence can get you over the line. and that’s what happened at the french and wimby.
as everyone knows, tennis is largely a mental game.
people might not remember this, but federer used to be mentally fragile in the beginning, had the game but not the mental. we all know what happened when he fixed the mental side.


jane Says:

Oops I meant lightning. But you could see it as “lightening” too, since Fed kind of skims the court, lightens his load. Okay have no idea what I am talking about.


guy Says:

also it’s harder to hit ‘big’ when your opponent is dictating. so federer can make more flashy shots when he’s dictating. but he’ll admit it’s hard to dictate against berdych,soda etc.
it depends on your opponent’s style.


tenisbebe Says:

Ben – you need to stay out of the commentary unless questions are directed at you or directly about your article, TRULY. You seem to have a problem with this concept: are you a writer or a blogger? If you are a writer then put a sock in it and let us chat please.


Ike Says:

contador

Jackson Hole, WY is where in 2004 or 2005 the legendary Alan Greenspan said, “i see great economic future for America! And blah, blah…”, and the housing prices kept going up until the bubble started bursting in late 2007, 2008. That’s how I remember Jackson Hole, WY.


guy Says:

meanwhile this is one of those matches that looks closer on the scoreboard than it actually is


contador Says:

he’s a pretty good one trick pony to be what #5 in the world.

and he’s in another GS quarterfinal. i think he’s got something.

and if there were a roof…more aces.

federer is has put on a masterful performance in the conditions. so far

this isn’t over


zinaldo Says:

I think federer at times played a bit like nadal with too much spin into his shots but also he became a little too passive in the rallies which gave other players the time to hit him off the court.

But also what i noticed was that roger for the first time was playing almost like he was scared to lose or if he won fair enough but he wouldn’t push himself like whenever before.


kimberly Says:

Great defense from fed.


Aravind Says:

Two reasons why Federer is ahead in this match so far.
1. Soderling has surely struggled with the wind, especially on his serve. No free points all match
2. Federer has played an incredibly smart match. He has kept it deep in the baseline and right at the center. Preventing Soderling from taking big swings and creating pressure.

Having said that, Soderling’s game and serve have picked up slightly, should make for a close 3rd set


guy Says:

first ace, after an hour and a half.


Ben Pronin Says:

Federer’s unbelievable winning streaks over all these players is just a little dumbfounding. There’s no other player who’s had so much absurd success over so many players. Maybe that’s what Nadal is, karma, sorta.

Kimo, yeah I remember those sitters…unfortunately.


kimberly Says:

I wonder what ranking del potro will sink to after this. I’m sure once he gets back he will climb relatively fast.

Feds game is beautiful tonight but a lot of shanks.


Ben Pronin Says:

Why am I not allowed to chat with you guys? There’s no rule against that.


Skeezerweezer Says:

Fed is not being bullied so far. If fed doesn’t beat himself with UE’s, he is hard to beat still. If someone can best him it takes the bully to beat him, as Sod has done in the past, and Rafa does often. Don’t let Fed get in his shotmakin comfort zone. And if he is confident in his service game, well, nuff said?


zinaldo Says:

Nadal is federer nemesis was sent from a distance galaxy to take him down and he is so far in roger head that no matter how bad he is playing or where they play he is always with a chance of winning.

A bit like djokovic just needs rafa on hard court to regain his form at least not in majors.


guy Says:

at least the djoker match should be much more interesting


Skeezerweezer Says:

Ben. WTF? Chat on !!!!


Ben Pronin Says:

That’s why I want a Djokovic-Nadal final.


Ben Pronin Says:

I like how Annacone always looks like he’s just gazing. At least he doesn’t sleep like Roche did, haha.


Kimo Says:

First ace for Soderling. Finally.


Skeezerweezer Says:

Omg, now it’s the cosmos…..lol


Ben Pronin Says:

Did anyone see that? Federer hit the ball right into the ball boy’s hand.


zinaldo Says:

So rafa wins but this is the quickest hard court ever so i would think djokovic could win here but rafa is the man for the big occasions which is the reason why he always seems to beat roger i guess.

He thrives on those stressful moments whereas roger crumbles at least against him.


kimberly Says:

Another ace, congrats.

Soderling is a one trick pony as he has one game plan….blast them off the court. If plan a doesn’t work he has no plan b. His one trick is pretty effective hence his number five possibly soon number four ranking. But if its not working he can’t win.


guy Says:

they should have drop shot success stats


David Says:

It’s funny. I’m having a little back-and-forth e-mail chat with this guy Greg Couch at FanHouse. He’s defending this article he wrote about Fed after Wimbledon

http://tennis.fanhouse.com/2010/06/30/roger-federer-passed-by-tomas-berdych-time/

In my last e-mail I wrote that I still can’t understand what Federer’s “in denial” about, considering that he’s handling Soda tonight and in with a great chance to win this tournament and get to his goal of 20 Slams.


jane Says:

Ben, I remember Roche sleeping. I mean, no wonder Fed fired him! LOL.


Skeezerweezer Says:

Roche, sleeping, lol I remember that


guy Says:

nadal djoker matches can be pretty awesome, it’s true.


Ben Pronin Says:

I don’t know. It’s been a while since Nadal beat Djokovic on hard courts (08 Olympics I think, maybe the biggest match they played on the surface, of course Nadal won). But still, I’m keeping my faith in Djokovic. He’s gotta rise up at some point, doesn’t he? Maybe? Hopefully.


Skeezerweezer Says:

Ha! Jane …… Mind meld


jane Says:

Cool idea guy; why don’t you track bagels and drop shot successes. I’d love to know about both. My aunt and I used to call drop shots “dumb shots” because so often players would use them at the worst moment and miss. But they seem to be used much more effectively now, and also kind of in vogue. It’s hip to do the dropper.


guy Says:

although djoker also owns some straight forward wins on hard court


jane Says:

Mind meld … like it!


guy Says:

djoker isn’t serving well enough to win here i don’t think


zinaldo Says:

To me nadal would just be over defensive and make djoker hit so many shots is asthma would start playing up again.


thark Says:

yeah soda! get in this!


Daniel Says:

Well at leat he was broken going for the shot. He prepare perfect for that inside out and missed by little. Let’s see if Soda holds.


zinaldo Says:

Federer now days pretty much gives opponents breaks.


kimberly Says:

If there were stats for drop shots ernest gulbis would be in last place.

Soderling another double fault?


Kimo Says:

That break was totally unnecessary, Rog.


contador Says:

oh no deja vu us open 4 setter 2009 match coming


tenisbebe Says:

Sod breaks. Could he take at least a set? He’s seemed to stop battling the wind as much and accepting it instead.


Colleen Says:

Zinaldo,
Roger can’t just work harder to compensate for his loss of foot speed; it just goes and there’s nothing you can do. He’s my fav. player of all time, but he seems to have a chronic back issue now and imo that’s the main reason his level has dropped.

In his eurosport column, patrick Mouratoglou talked about this, saying he’s been worried lately, noticed some pain in his back return b/c he’s been very static with his footwork and not pushing down enough on his legs, opposite to what he showed in TO and Cincy. I hope he is wrong about that & can continue to play well this week.

The back issue may be why he can’t hit out on his backhand as he did in his younger days and it has been mentioned elsewhere that he’s changed his serve motion over the years, not arching his back as much.

I hope Roger still has a lot of good tennis left in him but it’s not fair to compare a nadal in his prime to Rog in his later days.


Ben Pronin Says:

Anyone else notice that Federer seems to be attacking, or at least targeting, the Soderling forehand a bit more than… his backhand, I guess?


Kimo Says:

zinaldo Says:

“Federer now days pretty much gives opponents breaks.”

Ok, but he breaks them right back :P

What’s with all the bitterness today zinaldo? Bummed out because Soda didn’t come through for you today?


Daniel Says:

3 forehand missed by Sod. Fed smartly played all topspin forehands openning the court to force the errors. Even again.


thark Says:

when i said “get in this,” i didn’t mean “get in so deep that you drown.”

what the heck soda.


jane Says:

guy I agree. While Novak’s serve is getting better, improving, it’s not a weapon like Fed’s is. So I don’t think he will win this year, although god I’d love it if he did, or even just got over the Fed hurdle which he’s not been able to do in 07, 08, 09. Not looking good for Nole, unfortunately.

Soda is not trying much other than whacking the ball hard, and yet he’s done quite well at the net when he’s come in. But he’s rarely used slices or anything. I don’t think he’s a one trick pony really, but tonight it doesn’t seem like he’s tried to mix it up much, and maybe that’s in part due to the unruly conditions. Seems to me that Fed feeds off of pace.


guy Says:

‘it’s not fair to compare a nadal in his prime to Rog in his later days.’

well then it’s not fair to compare federer in his prime to nadal as a teenager, but of course everyone does.

fed is still in his prime, everyone seems to think he’s a grandpa.


sar Says:

Did anyone see Monfils was at the net in the 3rd and tried to distract djokovic by doing a jumping jack ROFL. Cahill said he should have beaned him in the chest. It was the strangest thing.


kimberly Says:

Yes I noticed that as well ben.


Ben Pronin Says:

I loved that play.

Haha, grandpa. Maybe not but he is a dad!

Kimo, zinaldo is a Federer fan. Didn’t someone already say that?


guy Says:

remember those comments from borg how soderling would be no.1 pretty soon etc. man what an idiot.


Ben Pronin Says:

I don’t know where this idea that Federer isn’t moving well is coming from, his defense has been pretty great tonight.


David Says:

It’s almost like Fed just dials up a break whenever he needs one.


zinaldo Says:

No i don’t like soderling anyway but roger hands breaks to his opponents by which i mean he makes unforced errors so his opponents don’t have to do much.

Roger pretty misses the simplest of shots even down the middle of the court with amazing shanks which is shameful for a player of his stature, i hate roger lost of concentration which something nadal almost never does.


Kimo Says:

Fed is moving BEAUTIFULLY today!!!


jane Says:

Fed’s zoning in this game! He’ll break and serve for it.


Daniel Says:

Federer is making some drills with Soda.


Ben Pronin Says:

This is reminding me of Roddick-Federer 07. This match is perhaps a reminder (to me, anyway) of how and why Federer has done so well against these big hitters.


Kimo Says:

Ben said:

“Kimo, zinaldo is a Federer fan. Didn’t someone already say that?”

Oh you mean he’s like that guy in Major League II who had the Indians logo crossed on his shirt despite being a big Indians fan?

That’s no way to cheer for your favorite player.


Ben Pronin Says:

Assuming Fed closes it out now, he’s 4/5 in bp conversions for the match. Maybe his best conversion rate in a really long time.


Kimmi Says:

ah federer is soo lucky to still be in this set and now serving for it. hope he serves it out here. go fed!


guy Says:

soderling and berdych are back to normal. after a slight glitch in the system.


zinaldo Says:

I hate to see the mistakes he makes,it is ridiculous,that is all.


Kimo Says:

YOU DA MAN ROGER. YOU DA MAN!!!!


Ben Pronin Says:

Yeah, I think it’s safe to say Federer is playing well.


Kimo Says:

Oh you can see that Roger is specially happy with this win.

Revenge is a dish best served COLD.


Daniel Says:

Has Federer ever arrives in a semifinal in US Open without droping a set before?! I Know 2006-2009 for sure he lost sets.


Gannu Says:

Oh God he broke.. i hope he holds and closes this match in straight sets…


David Says:

Well, Fed’s starting another semifinal streak. I wouldn’t be surprised if this streak turns out to be the second longest in men’s tennis history.


jane Says:

Ben @ 11:24, yes it is similar to that match. However, Roddick served much better than Soda, and there were two tiebreaks and after that Fed ran away with the match. Whereas in this match, Soda’s serve has never really caught on. And every time he’s broken Fed (3 times?) he’s been broken right back.

There was never a hope for Soda tonight in my opinion. Or perhaps for a second or two here or there.

But that was a comprehensive win for Roger. This is his best surface. Great win! Congrats to his fans.

Soda will know he didn’t play his best, so he will be fine too.

Kimo, Gwen wins again. : )


zinaldo Says:

He also was the favourite at the ao open 09 and what happened a 5 hour set matched rafa still beat him even not only outlasting him but also winning the battle of the nerves in the 5th set.

I love roger but he is almost like tyson because nadal is the only player who has gotten past that scared barrier of his and pretty much wins the mental battle whenever they play.


Gannu Says:

congrats fed fans…!!! Our man all the way ;-) I hope he manages to get good rest and is well prepared against Djokovic and gets a favourable schedule.. Really hope he takes the 17th one..

fed fans – any comments on how our man played??


jane Says:

Cute comments from Roger about the twins; he got all gushy about them.


stu Says:

who caught that dig @ djokovic when fed was asked about his serve?

battle’s ON!


Kimo Says:

jane:

“Kimo, Gwen wins again. : )”

Yeah, I know. I’m SHOCKED. Two matches in a row now. Keep it up, hollaback girl :DDD


tennisfansince76 Says:

stu paranoid much?


zinaldo Says:

I think it must the finals that she must bring him bad luck i think.


Ben Pronin Says:

Jane, I know they were different matches but what I mean is that, in 07, Roddick blasted the ball and Federer just absorbed the pace. That’s similar to what happened just now. Besides that, I’d say very different matches, neither player was in black :D

Now that Fed’s won, let’s go Djokovic!!!


Daniel Says:

Well, one thing is for sure: “There will be blood” com Sunday. Either Fedal or Djokal will be great. Fedal has more at stake but a Djokal woulb great as well. This both scenarios set us for the match of the year!


jane Says:

She’s “ain’t no hollaback giril” Kimo. : )

stu, I missed it! What’d he say? Do you really think Nole can beat Fed here? I am quite doubtful after 3 tries already. Mind you he’s always kept it pretty close, but. Maybe he has a 20-25% chance at an upset.


dari Says:

Straight sets, Mr. Soderling, who knew?! So proud of roger on every front, the serve, the movement, handling the wind, the backhand, the BREAK POINT CONVERSION!!
So very happy!
Perhaps it pays to stay away from tennis x during important fed matches! Goooooo Roger!


David Says:

Gammu

What do you mean “favorable schedule”? It’ll be Federer (the GOAT, global icon) against Djokovic (AO champ, four-time USO semifinalist). How can that not be the late match? Please tell me that’s the late match. Now you’re making me paranoid.


jane Says:

“Federer just absorbed the pace. That’s similar to what happened just now” Yes, I get the comparison in this case Ben. That’s why I actually think Melzer played a smarter match against Fed. But then again Melzer wasn’t having to deal with the wind. So 6 of one, half dozen of the other. In both cases, Fed was just better.


tenisbebe Says:

Woo hoo! Well Fed was the fav but in this day and age that means nothing. Upward and onward.


Eric Says:

Well, what’s clear is that Melzer, by forcing a tiebreaker, has come closer than anyone else to taking a set from Federer – which, incidentally, was also the case at the French Open vs. Nadal. (Montanes forced 2 tiebreakers in his Nadal match, but Melzer did better in his t han M did in either of his.) So it’s too bad that his run was cut comparatively short when he probably could have beat at least a couple of the quarter finalists.


kimberly Says:

Congrats to all fed fans. He looked really sharp. Saturday should be a great semi! Hopefully the conditions will suit both players so we can see great quality tennis.


David Says:

That was Almagro who took Rafa to two tiebreakers at the French.


tennisfansince76 Says:

I thought that was a tough match. Fed’s serving made the difference. when they got into baseline exchanges sod held his own i felt. fed handled the conditions better mentally and physically.


David Says:

Yes, congrats to all Fed fans. Doesn’t this ever get old for you guys?

Just kidding.


stu Says:

jane, no of course the fed will win USO meeting #4. nole might get a set if his serve is on. if we thought nole handled the wind well, the fed showed us what well is. the only way i see novak win this is if federer is in walkabout mode which i doubt.

reg. the dig – i meant when federer said he is supposed to know how to serve in all kinds of weather as a pro coz they practice it day and night. he would be able to serve in his sleep. okay, could be paranoia – let’s blame the excitement of this match-up for it!


kimberly Says:

David—our guy is on tmorrow eve. Nervous? Thoughts?


Gannu Says:

David… It doesnt work necessarily that way.. If you look at 2008 US Open.. fed vs Djokovic was the first match followed by Nadal vs Murray (and at the last moment they shifted this match to louis armstrong) so Fed at times does get favourable schedule irrespective of the quality of match.. last year fed got a horrible scheudle with Djokovic at night..and i clearly dont want that to happen…Fed’s draw has been gruelsome.. for christ sake atleast the tournament organisers need to schedule a tough match first followed by Nadal’s match who anyways is going to get a spent opponent in wawrinka or Youzhny both of them are grossly incompetent to even reach a tie-break set in a GS match against Nadal…


David Says:

Kimberly

I was hoping for Ferrer, but I’m still confident. Rafa’s playing with a lot of confidence right now and I think better than what he was playing in AO 09, especially with the serve but also being more aggressive from the baseline too. Also, even though I know Nando has worked extremely hard on his fitness, his body usually breaks down a bit after tough matches and I don’t think he’s the toughest when it comes to playing with pain.

And if Rafa gets through, we couldn’t have asked for a better semifinal matchup. Getting to play a 1-handed bh player.


skeezerweezer Says:

contador Says:

skeezer- you are in the bracket on tennischannel, right? wrong?

Yeah I went under you “Martian Monnball” lol and on my own :)


Ben Pronin Says:

Doesn’t the number 1 seed get the second match?


andrea Says:

go roger!


David Says:

Gannu

I thought the marquee match went on later. Rafa-Murray could – very arguably – be more marquee than Fed-Djoko. But no way Rafa-Wawrinka or Rafa-Youzhny. That would be the last straw for me for this tournament and I’d be cursing it to my dying day :)

Seriously though, I think Rafa deserves the favorable schedule for another reason. He’s the No. 1 seed yet Fed got the Monday start even though he also got it last year. Thank goodness there’s no rain in the forecast tomorrow, but you never want that Thursday night match because you’re in trouble if that session gets canceled.


kimberly Says:

Was exhausted at work today from staying up late watching rafa last night. Was hoping he would get day match so I didn’t have another late night. Oh well, the tournament organizers know what their doing to promote tennis I guess.

Apparently the americans were complaining no matches on arthur ashe and that they weren’t used to the conditions.


jane Says:

stu, I think Fed was maybe just feeling uber confident about his serving after that match and so he should’ve been. But hey! From what I have heard and read, Nole handled the wind well today too, only 4 doubles which is less than Monfils or Soda, and also nearly 70% winning on firsts and 50% winning on seconds for the match. That’s not too bad. No freebies, but still. He also won a whopping 40 of 59 net approaches, for 68%. Has Novak EVER approached the net so much in any match in his life!!?

Anyhow, we can dream about wild odds for a couple days, and more realistically hope for a close match, maybe a 4 setter and a tiebreak or two.

Since the R16, it’s been looking like Fedal. Still is.


David Says:

Ben

Federer played the first semifinal in 2006 as the top seed, so if he gets it this year that’s just wrong.

There’s just no argument for saying Rafa-Wawrinka or Rafa-Youzhny is a more marquee match than Fed-Djoko.


tennisfansince76 Says:

Rafa is 24. he can have the night match


David Says:

Djoko’s the youngest player, so I say give him the least rest in case he wins.


Eric Says:

David, good call, I should have checked. Anyway, the point stands that Melzer has really shown his quality the past few months.

However that may be, I don’t think even an on-fire Djokovic (still less, Wawrinka or Youzhny) is going to derail the Federer-Nadal final. Which will be some very interesting tennis, my friends.


Gannu Says:

A 29 year old gets the worst draw and add to that they want him to striggle getting a night match…

and Nadal a young 24 yr old should get favourable scheudle because he keeps running around… Is it Fedex fault that Nadal’s game is so irriating and relies on pure muscular strength..and that too Nadal is going to get a spent force in Waw/Youzhny.. will not be surprised if one of them retires…

So JUSTICE demands that Nadal gets the night match…Its very unfair for Federer to have so much ill-luck abt everything…

All said and done whatever is the schedule, I want Federer to hold the US Open trophy and get his 17th one.. i will be shattered if he doesnt and i have some renewed faith in Annacone.. Under his tutelage i atleast expect federer t be very strong mentally and have that extra desire and hunger to prove to the youngsters Djoko Nadal and all their fans that ” HE IS STILL ROGER FEDERER” Period…


stu Says:

I agree, jane. Novak played well, Roger always does at this stage. I just hope the conditions are less extreme so that we get a good match! Can’t remember too many good late-stage GS matches this year and so I can’t wait for the weekend!


jane Says:

Rafa has played only 1 day match so far, I think (Simon), and his match tomorrow is evening as well. Fed’s played 2 (Mathieu and Beck), and Nole has played 3 (Troicki, Fish, Monfils).


skeezerweezer Says:

Thanks David, Kimberly, guy :)

Best wishes to your fav tomorrow!

…..pop…..ahhh. a nice bottle of vino just opened in hoping to a classic USO semi and final for all!

Soda your # 5 for a reason. Your awesome! Just not today.

Welcome to the “Outer Limits”….Fed tonight was in………… “the Fed Zone”.

Novak vs Fed…..Novak looks good, so does Fed…hope it’s a classic….:)

Madmax, Kimo, super man, Gannu, dari, Ben ( Closet Fed ), contador ( aka Wild thing )and you know who you are…..YES! Another Semi-Final in the history books :)

Shaaaammoooon!


jane Says:

stu, ditto. Let’s hope for some good ones, 4 and 5 setters. Still have to cross my fingers and toes until cramped for Nole. It’d be so good for him to win something big again, just a huge boost for him. Oh well, on that note, off to dream. Zzzzzzz.

Sweet dreams to all tennis junkies.


David Says:

Gannu

I’m really trying to see your point but I just don’t.

How did Fed have a draw that was any more “brutal” than Rafa’s? Rafa had Murray in his half, who has been a better hard court player than Djoko recently. I guess you’re saying Sod is a tougher draw than having Verdasco or Nalby, which is probably true.

But Fed got the advantage already with the scheduling because he got the Monday start. He also got the Monday start last year. That’s a big advantage. Imagine if there were rain in the forecast tomorrow and Rafa’s match got rained out. Then what? He’d have to play 3 days in a row to win the tournament.

No. It’s only fair that Rafa gets the early match Saturday. Fed-Djoko is clearly the marquee match and that’s how it works when scheduling the Saturday session.


grendel Says:

It can’t be often you feel like crowing when you got something totally wrong – although for a bit, as I think Contador pointed out, we loked set for a repeat of last year.

Just to add to what has been said: no one seems to have alluded to Fed’s half volley flicks from the base line – he had some the other day, actually, but there were plenty of startling ones tonight. I don’t know anyone else who does those with such nonchalence. Also, no one has commented on Fed’s return of serve (which has, probably justifiably, been generally criticised of late). I thought it was absolutely outstanding and tremendously varied.

Much emphasis has been laid on the serve, and rightly. But I actually thought his groundies were great and again, just so beautifully varied. How can you talk about his forehand when it seems to incorporate about twenty different types of stroke – and his backhand was not far behind? There were a few shanks, but that was of no concern. What I liked was how Federer stayed with Soderling when the Swede was hammering the ball the way only he and a couple of others can. He outlasted him – he just hasn’t been doing that of late. And so, much as I respect Tennisfansince76′s knowledge, I have to disagree with:” Fed’s serving made the difference. when they got into baseline exchanges sod held his own i felt.” On the whole, Sod didn’t imo. b.t.w. Soderling was valiant throughout, he held on with great tenacity in the 3rd despite being outplayed, and very nearly pulled the set off.

One thing made me laugh. Fed did a woeful drive volley early in the match, and much later on he did one again when I don’t think he needed to – it’s as if he were saying: that last one was just a quirk, I can do these easily really. There’s a sort of arrogance in that, but you’ve got to kind of love it.

Only thing is: has Federer peaked too soon? Can he reproduce this form twice again? Finally, I wonder if anyone else experiences this strangely contradictory feeling where their own favourite is concerned. I was enjoying the match so match, well, not the competition – let’s be honest – I was enjoying Fed’s play, which was just taking me back down one of the more beautiful avenues of memory lane. And yet I wanted it all to be over – because I was afraid if it lasted any longer, the gods would get cross with Federer’s temerity and put him on the train to la la land, where he has been known to sojourn a little too often for my liking, of late.


skeezerweezer Says:

guy,

you were “on fire” with your posts tonight, fun read :)


Eric Says:

David, to reply for Gannu, I think any remotely reasonable person would agree that Federer has had the tougher draw: Murray was the sting in the tail waiting for Nadal, probably more dangerous than Djokovic for Federer, but the rest of his draw was a cakewalk: nothing more, nothing less. It’s not Nadal’s fault that Murray didn’t deliver, but those are the facts. Federer has faced someone both higher ranked and more dangerous (sometimes, but not always, the same thing) in practically every round – Melzer, Soderling, Djokovic instead of Lopez, Verdasco, and Youzhny/Wawrinka. Come on. And scheduling is out of the picture – these guys are pro athletes, if they can’t play two days in a row it’s a pity but get over it, that’s how the cards fall sometimes.


David Says:

Eric

I don’t really see how Melzer is a more difficult opponent than Lopez. At least Lopez has a big serve. Remember 07 and how well Feli played against Fed that year. Soda, I grant you, is a tough quarterfinal but Verdasco’s not a cakewalk. That’s being too dismissive of a guy who can be extremely dangerous on the day.

As far as “scheduling being out of the picture” what if there is some strange turn in the weather and Rafa’s match gets rained out tomorrow night? Is scheduling still “out of the picture” with Rafa having to play 3 matches in 3 days to win the tournament. Remember that because Federer got the Monday start (just as he got it last year) there was no danger of that happening to him.


skeezerweezer Says:

grendel,

I reluctantly agree, I hope Fed has not “shot is w@d” too soon, as they say, and he has not peaked out but is still climbing the steady ladder to the GST at the USO. Despite the wind, which produced his own shankopotomus’s, he almost looked too good. Hope he continues on this path :)

Sod is ranked #5, but a formidable Novak and #1 world ranked/seeded favorite to win is in front, surely the odds of the winning the future battles are great, but the war still can be won.

Fed IMO is still the underdog, but he seems confident at his stage to “bring” on the best in front of him…..we’ll see….


Eric Says:

David, fair points. Verdasco COULD beat Nadal. But I don’t see it happening, simply because they’ve played so many times and the best Verdasco has ever done was that agonizing AO 2009 match. And I would love to see Verdasco finally keep his form up long enough to make it to a GS final, but I just can’t really see it happening. Not after that Ferrer match, both because of what it showed of Verdasco’s form and because it was so long and tiring.


grendel Says:

David – Lopez was awesome against Fed in ’07. But I feel at the moment, Melzer is much the more dangerous player. Verdasco is the great unknown. Assuming he recovers, he could really trouble Nadal. Or, he could just limply fade away. Who knows? Djokovic is obviously infinitely more dangerous than Youzhny/Wawrinka (although I know that’s not your point [Murray etc]; but actually, I’m not getting into the scheduling thing. Clearly it’s all about tv, although I’m not entirely sure how. Somehow, I can’t get worked up about the justice or injustice involved here.)


Gordo Says:

Oh, once in a while a guy gets to gloat…

On September 6th, 2010 at 3:14 pm

Cindy_Brady Wrote (after berating me as she likes to do everyone in here):

I predict Rafa will beat Soderling in the U.S Open finals. Yes, I think Soderling will upset Federer in the Qs.

Soderling isn’t afraid of Fed and has the game to blow him off the court. He probably should have beat him last year but it was a night match and a little crazy.

Fed fans, watch out for Robin.

=====
To which I immediately responded -

Gordo Says:

If Fed meets Soderling get your popcorn early cause early describes the exit Soderling will make. If he wins one set I will be shocked.

Soderling does not have the touch to beat an in form Fed on hard court.

=====

So Cindy – “Blah blah blah” yourself, you smug know it all :)

###


Polo Says:

Just a warning, Gordo, gloating usually jinxes the person being gloated about. Premature gloating often ends in bitter disappointment. So hold it until the time that it is really worth it.


Skeezerweezer Says:

Gordo,

TX…this stuff is so typical…kudos yo you for savin that stuff. What has Fed done to them except bring the best shotmaking tennis ever?

You have ALL the playing peers, past and present, heck even BJK gets excited to watch Fed, don’t get it. It’s like how can you not get excited to watch Michael Jordon, Michael Jackson, and Skeezerweezer? C’mon!


Gordo Says:

Polo – that was my only gloat. I have just been fed up with the negativity directed to too many people in here by one person (who goes under 2 names to back herself up). She never admits she is wrong, insults and attacks anyone whenever she can and has driven a lot of people away from this site.

I know tennis-x bills itself as Dysfunctional Tennis Blogging at its Finest, but sometimes people who hide behind the anonymity it offers to hurl vile insults and racial slurs make me want to grab a large mallet.

It’s out of my system. All sweetness and light from here on in.


Gordo Says:

Now -

Who’s for an all-Swiss final?


David Says:

Rafa-Djoko would be cool. That’d be different anyway, but the odds are slim to none.


paula Says:

I just got back. It was a lovely night- windy, true- but such great tennis.


Skeezerweezer Says:

Hey Paula :)

David,

Don’t count Novak out. Fed fan or not, he’s a top tier seed and has shown his form this tourney. Either way, whoever makes it to the final deserves it. Well, that schedule thing, welcome to the USO. :)


paula Says:

Hi Skeezer-
I had a fun night. The trip back is always awful- so I’m unwinding now. The Canada Open is so much calmer and lovely- great tennis (not both genders) and easy going. The USO is really crowded and hectic. Still. It’s fun to go – We have two tickets for tomorrow- but my son may go instead of me. I can only deal with getting out to the end of Queens so much.


Seth Says:

Really thrilled that both Fed and Nole won their quarters today. The semifinal between them should be a corker. Whoever wins it has me rooting for them in the final against (most likely) Nadal.


valky Says:

Sheila,
I do not agree with you. My feeling is Roger will win the tournament,he looks very confident and plays very well. Go Roger.


madmax Says:

Stu, there was NO dig at Novak from Fed, so don’t start something that didn’t exist. If Ben, a write here didn’t see it, and others, then why is it that you want to see something that doesn’t exist. There can only be one reason.

fed and novak have great respect for each other. If you were a novak fan, then you would know this. Sar knows it, Duro knows it, as do Jane and ollyk.

gannu, yes. A brilliantly executed match by the fed.

voicemale:

Voicemale1 Says:
To Sean’s point on whether we’ll get Fedal, Chapter 22. Federer has the tougher road by a fair bit, and although he hasn’t dropped a set yet, he hasn’t been playing anything near his yesteryear best either. He’s been coughing up Break Point chances left and right the whole tournament (13 chances to Melzer alone who took two of them). If he does that against Soderling tonight he’s in serious trouble. Since it looks like Djokovic at this moment is likely to get through, Federer faces the prospect of two long matches against guys who know how to beat him. In fact, Djokovic is almost the forgotten man among the Top 4 getting lost in all the Murray Hyping (and let’s hope THAT’S done with until Mopey Murray actually DOES come through to win a Major, which might not ever happen). Novak’s gone about his business quietly, without any drama or hyperbole. He’s beaten everone remaining on fast courts before. He’s clearly a threat, even to the 29 year old version of Federer.

There’s no other way to describe the Nadal run to the Quarters other than remarkable. To a guy who was playing on a surface in an event that was supposed to upend him at any time, you’d have gotten REALLY long odds beforehand that we’d get to this stage of the Open and bet that it was Nadal who’d be the one who hasn’t dropped serve yet. It’s clear he had no real designs on winning either Canada or Cincinnati, but used the time as practice time to make the full court press to win this one. The next two rounds are on his racquet – Verdasco will wilt from last night (and in fact for the whole year), Youzhny will be out classed, and Wawrinka might not get through the match, seeing as he already has his thigh taped now. As long as Nadal is moving as superbly as he has been all tournament these guys have virtually no chance. The way Nadal’s been playing up to now is better than anything anyone else in the draw has done up to this point. It could well be his moment to take it all, no matter who he’d face on Sunday.

September 8th, 2010 at 6:21 pm

He hasn’t been playing anywhere near his best? Umm…I suggest you read I am it’s post where he has worked out the stats (as he always does), PROVING that fed HAS been playing better than he was 2 years ago – so your perception of this doesn’t hold up.

This is fed’s 26th GS semi final – equalling Agassi’s record, he is two behind Lendl’s record of 28, and 5 behind equalling Connors record of 31. This is just mouthwateringly, jaw dropping ‘ly’ awesome.

Fed is awesome.

Zinaldo, do you think you could actually try and say something different? I read your posts and they are repetitively non-sensical.

Federer, you rock the tennis world!

Go Federer!


stu Says:

Chill out, madmax. I already admitted that it might be paranoia on my part. Phew!


dari Says:

Gordo, all swiss final, YESSSSSSSSS!


David Says:

It’ll be hard for me to root for Fed against Djoko, but I think as tennis fans, especially tennis fans in the U.S. who complain about lousy TV coverage, the only final we should be rooting for is Fedal.

This will be a big occasion for tennis. The ratings should be about the highest possible considering no American is involved and it’s good for the sport.

So let’s not talk anymore about all-Swiss finals or Verdasco beating Nadal or Djoko upsetting Fed.

Bring on Fedal, even though it’s going to especially painful for the loser’s fans.


NELTA Says:

Ben Pronin Says:
Doesn’t the number 1 seed get the second match?
————————————————-

All things being equal between the 2 semis then that is the case, but if there is a big enough difference in the perceived ratings draw between 2 matches then they will switch things up. Fed has played the late match the last 5 years except for 06 when Roddick played 2nd presumably because putting a well known American in the prime time slot would be a big draw.

If Nadal had an equally competitive semi like a Murray, Delpo or an American like Roddick then he would probably get the 2nd match. My guess is they will give him the early start with a lower tier opponent like Youzhny or Wawrinka.

On another thread someone mentioned the all American semi of Agassi/Ginepri would have been the 2nd match, but Agassi requested the early start and it was granted. They said that is why #1 seed Fed was the 2nd match, not because it is the general rule that the #1 seed play 2nd. I don’t know if that was true or not. I’m not refuting it. I just don’t know. So if that is true then in theory Fed could request the early semi knowing he has a much more difficult match.


David Says:

NELTA

I don’t think Fed or anybody “knows” that his match with Djoko is going to be more difficult than Rafa’s match (if he beats Verdasco) with Youzhny or Wawrinka. Djoko is a more accomplished player that those 2 but Fed has won 9 out of the 10 sets they’ve played at the U.S. Open. I’d say that the most likely scenario is that Fed wins that match in straight sets.

Rafa, meanwhile, just lost a set to Wawrinka a couple of weeks ago and obviously has lost at this tournament to Youzhny.

So I won’t be the least bit surprised if Rafa plays a tough 4 sets with Wawrinka or Youzhny and Fed goes through comfortably in straights.

In any case, Rafa’s camp should request the early start as well. After all, Fed got the Monday start once again this year. Let’s keep things even as far as scheduling goes.


Nims Says:

Guys, just don’t forget the AO09, the kind of form Fed showed and still lost to Nadal. That was THE best baseline play Federer ever played but still lost to Nadal on Hard Court. Ofcourse his server deserted him.


Nims Says:

Not sure why still guys believe Rafa’s loss to Youzhny is relevant for this year. That was when Rafa, probably 60% of the player he is today.


jane Says:

I read this stat today:
“Djokovic, whose only Slam title came at the 2008 Australian Open, joined Federer, Jimmy Connors, Ivan Lendl and John McEnroe as the only men to reach the US Open semi-finals four years in a row since the Open Era began in 1968.”"

http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/sports/International/3975.html

I hope Nole can win the USO one day; he’s been good here for years running, no upsets, but always runs smack into Fed. He needs to get to another slam final soon and put himself in the running.


MMT Says:

David Said: “So I won’t be the least bit surprised if Rafa plays a tough 4 sets with Wawrinka or Youzhny and Fed goes through comfortably in straights.”

Wow – that’s a bold prediction – not having lost his serve, let alone a set so far, and he’s going to drop 1 to either Wawrinka or Youzhny? I wouldn’t count on that.

As for Federer and Djokovic; although federer has won 9 of their last 10 sets at the US Open, in 6 of those 9 sets he’s need 7 games to win the set, so they’ve all been tight. And in their last match in Canada, the 3rd set also went to 7-5, and Djokovic really didn’t start playing well until the middle of the second set.

I don’t think scheduling will affect the final regardless of who reaches it. I find that argument to be much excuse-making typically from a player who has either choked or lacked the committment/steel to give their best for the entire final.


David Says:

MMT

I honestly don’t think Saturday’s scheduling will affect the final either, but it’s simply always better to get on first because you never know if weather may play a role.

Sorry if I sound whiny. This isn’t a Fed-Nadal thing. I’m just so aggravated with the U.S. Open scheduling and I have been for 30 years! I guess I have to get over it. Like you say, it almost never affects the outcome, but there’s always that doubt and I find that irritating at such a big tournament.

One of these years there’s going to be a rainout of the Thursday night match and some poor sod is going to have to play 3 best of five matches in 3 days to win the tournament.

I hope when that happens that that player is completely spent by the final and loses 6-3, 6-1, 6-0 and then that sparks some major controversy and that big changes are made.


SG Says:

I’m not the biggest Federer fan but last night, he showed the scope of brilliance. In really windy conditions, he looked unbelievably smooth. I thought he made Soderling look like a bantam weight. Whereas Soderling had points of awkwardnes caused by the wind, Fed never looked out of sorts. Impressive. I don’t think anyone could have beaten Fed last night given the conditions.


MMT Says:

That’s a good point – because McEnroe has been complaining about the scheduling for years, it has become a topic of conversation.

But he beat Lendl in the 1984 final after playing a long drawn out 5 setter against Connors that didn’t end until midnight. The next year he played the day semi-final against Wilander, it also went long, but he had more time recover than Lendl, who took care of business and beat Connors in straight sets in the night match.

Of course, McEnroe proceeded to get caught in traffic on his way to the final and promptly lost – also in straight sets. Unbeknownst to him, it would be the last grand slam final he’d ever play.

In fact, he also played a taxing night session 5-set semi-final against Connors in 1980, but proceeded to win the final against Borg – who never had any fitness issues that I can remember. Borg had come back from 2 sets to love down against Johan Kreik in the day session semi-final, although he lost just 3 games in the last 3 sets.

In 1981 McEnroe played a 5 set semi-final against Gerulaitis – this time during the day, but won the final handily over Borg in 4 rather straight forward sets who obliterated Connors in straight sets in the night session. Coincidentally this final would also be Borg’s last grand slam final.

I think McEnroe is the source a lot of complaints about scheduling at the US Open, and I think on this issue, as well as a couple others more recently, he is both ill-informed and the basis for his complaint(s) is(are) largely unfounded.


MMT Says:

That last comment was directed to David, BTW.


MMT Says:

Jane said: ““Djokovic, whose only Slam title came at the 2008 Australian Open, joined Federer, Jimmy Connors, Ivan Lendl and John McEnroe as the only men to reach the US Open semi-finals four years in a row since the Open Era began in 1968.””

That’s an interesting statistic – I thought Sampras was also in that category, but because he didn’t play the US Open in 1999 his run of 4 in a row from 1998 to 2002 doesn’t count.


margot Says:

jane: jko jinxed jumping jack. :)
David years ago @ 3.18. Really liked that one; even handed and sums up why we can admire A tremendously and prefer him/her, while acknowledging that B is a superior shot maker.
Nina@ 6.55, exactly. Tennis rocks.
tenisbebe@9.52: OMG u should hear some of the commentators that the Beeb wheels out at Wimbledon.
They trot out the bleeding obvious, time after time!
Seem to assume we are all complete tennis virgins…;)


David Says:

Thanks MMT

That was some good information. However, I still think scheduling is a big issue at the U.S. Open, even if McEnroe doesn’t argue the point well enough.

I agree that two matches in two days once during the tournament should not be an issue, even the last two days. But the possibility every year that a guy could have to play on 3 straight days is ridiculous. I don’t think there should be an argument there.

I mean, if it’s ok to play the quarters, semis and final on 3 straight days (assuming a rain-out on Thursday night), then why not just build some more courts and play the tournament in one week since these guys are so fit anyway.


madmax Says:

no stu. you chill out. you might to do that kind of stuff on another site, but you don’t have to do it here too. It strange that you want to start something. You never used to be like this. you’ve changed. come over here full time and enjoy a better discussion.

Federer was brilliant yesterday.

C’mon Federer!

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