Nadal, Big Boys in Action at Beijing, Tokyo: ATP Previews
by Staff | October 3rd, 2010, 1:41 pm
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China Open
Beijing, China
Surface: hard

Seeds: Novak Djokovic, Andy Murray, Robin Soderling, Nikolay Davydenko, Tomas Berdych, Fernando Verdasco, Mikhail Youzhny, David Ferrer


Floaters: Mardy Fish, Janko Tipsarevic, Sam Querrey, (WC) John Isner, Philipp Kohlschreiber, Tommy Robredo, Ivan Ljubicic, Marcos Baghdatis, (Q) Paul-Henri Mathieu

Notes: Lots of dangerous floaters in Beijing, with first-round matches of interest including Fish vs. Tipsarevic (winner to face (1) Djokovic), (6) Verdasco vs. Kohlschreiber (winner to face (WC) Isner), (3) Soderling vs. Robredo, (7) Youzhny vs. Ljubicic, and (2) Murray facing a qualifying-tested Mathieu; Djokovic beat Marin Cilic in the 2009 final; Murray and Berdych are making their debuts in Beijing; seven of the Top 10 players are in Beijing; Baghdatis won the title in 2006; the Bryan brothers, 4-0 at the event, are the top seeds, with their nemesis’ Nestor/Zimonjic at No. 2.

Rakuten Japan Open Tennis Championships
Tokyo, Japan
Surface: hard

Seeds: Rafael Nadal, Andy Roddick, Jo-Wilfried Tsonga, Jurgen “Tuna” Melzer, Gael “Force” Monfils, Feliciano “F-Lo” Lopez, “The Importance of Being” Ernests Gulbis, Michael Llodra

Floaters: Richard Gasquet, Dmitry Tursunov, Juan Monaco, (WC) Kei Nishikori, Juan Martin Del Potro, Radek “The Worm” Stepanek, Jarkko Nieminen

Notes: Del Potro in second tournament back after injury layoff, hoping to improve after first-round loss last week; the event is the longest-running ATP World Tour tennis tournament in Asia, first held in 1973; Nadal looking to rebound from shocker loss last week to Guillermo “G-Lo” Garcia-Lopez, who opens against (Q) Rajeev Ram; other openers of interest are (7) Gulbis vs. Tursunov (winner to face Gasquet), (4) Tuna Melzer vs. Monaco (winning to face Viktor Troicki or (WC) Nishikori), (6) F-Lo vs. Del Potro, and (3) Tsonga vs. Nieminen; Roddick looking at QF meeting with the Euro-Roddick Monfils; Tsonga, the 2009 champion, is returning from a lengthy time off due to a knee injury; Nadal is making his debut at the event.


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35 Comments for Nadal, Big Boys in Action at Beijing, Tokyo: ATP Previews

Huh Says:

SORRY FELLAS, WAS VERY BUSY SO HAD TO MISS THE ENTIRE ACTION OF LAST MONTH. BUT BETTER LATE THAN NEVER.

CONGRATULATIONS TO NADAL AND HIS FANS like Aleish 17, Ezorra, Mindy, Mem and the rest.

Rafa will surpass my dearest Roger if he continues to improve like that. Though I would like Fed to be remebered to be the greater player at the end of the respective careers of these two, but I don’t wish bad for Rafa anymore, he deserves everything that he is getting.
RAFA IS A REAL LEGEND AND SUPERSTAR and he can achieve more and more and more. If anyone deserves to outdo Fed’s GS tally, it’s Rafa. Wishing Rafa all the best for his future. Also wishing Fed all the very best. May Fed and Rafa continue to serve tennis as long as possible and may both achieve incredible things!

Will be good for tennis if Fed and Rafa continue to shine.

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I would also like to most sincerely congratulate the Nole fans for a GOOD performance at the USO, I especially congratulate Nole fans for his victory over Fed in the semi. Was a brave effort from Novak.

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Hoping that dear Muzza would also win his 1st slam very soon. Also want Nole to win his 2nd slam as soon a s possible. And last but not the least, may Roddick also win his desired WIM trophy!


Kimmi Says:

So tsonga is back. how many months was he off? never played since that epic match with murray at wimbledon i think.

returning from injury is not easy. lets see how he does here.

Hope delpo is improving his confidence. if he wins a match in tokyo it will be great.


contador Says:

“Hoping that dear Muzza would also win his 1st slam very soon. Also want Nole to win his 2nd slam as soon a s possible. And last but not the least, may Roddick also win his desired WIM trophy!’

couldn’t agree more, HUH.

beijing – so many early round interesting match-ups. i want to abandon job so bad and fly to china. americans are back. go fish! and i forgot about robredo and montanes = 5 top spaniards in beijing draw.

tokyo – great to see so many frenchies back in action too. will be very funny french chat while streaming.

canadian milos raonic is through another qualifier into main draw tokyo. go milos!

mm, lots of tennis. it’s a good week.


Fay Says:

Rafa should be playing at all, after his loss albeit bizarre loss last week it is apparent that the lad needs a serious mental time out! But knowing Rafa he will keep on playing won’t he. *fingers crossed* he has a better week this time.


zola Says:

Huh
***Will be good for tennis if Fed and Rafa continue to shine.***

can’t agree more. This is a special time with two champions like Rafa and Federer.

I too hope for Murray and Djoko to get some GSs. Of course my first choice is Rafa. But if he is out, I would like these two to win. I think I will give the priority to Murray so that he can get that monkey off his back and can play with less pressure.


Kimmi Says:

interesting 1st round matches in beijing tonight.

Fish vs tipsarevic
verdasco vs kohlschreiber

hmmm, the way verdasco is struggling, this is a very tough match, could go either way.

another american for tipsy. he can beat fish i think, could be wrong but lets see.

In tokyo delpo gets F-lopez. tough match for delpo, hoping he can win.


Fot Says:

Huh – you have been missed! Welcome back.


contador Says:

hey bracket challengers – last week of practice picking before shanghai. tick, tick…

kimmi-i can’t resist an opportunity for embarrassment: here goes a 1st round try
tokyo:

nadal
raonic
gasquet
gulbis :/ ernie, all i ask is one match.
melzer why is he “tuna?”
troiki ( guessing kei will have too much pressure)
G-lo
F-lo yep, very unlucky draw for delpo
llordra
stepanek
gimeno-traver
tsonga
monfils
dodig
roger-vaselin or chardy (?)
roddick

beijing:

nole
tipsy – yeah, i don’t trust fish till i see him
simon
berdych
davy
bellucci
isner
verdasco it’s a bit of a toss-up with kohls
ferrer
lu
almagro
soderling
youzhny
baghdatis ( unlucky draw for dolgo )
golubev
muzza

who did i say i was NEVER picking again? : )


Kimberly Says:

looking forward to shang hai!

Roddick or Rafa to win Tokyo with a lean toward Rafa. My instinct is like Contadors that he won’t win but then I just don’t see who will really trouble him. (Like a GL but how do you pick that).

Bejing I will go with Nole. Second guess Soderling. Third guess Murray.


Kimberly Says:

For all those that love predicting enter our bracket challenge on the atp site. Our group is tennis-x fans. Draw will be out on Saturday.

So here is my question to ponder
1. Is Fed as we know him done?
2. If so who is Rafa’s rival (who will play the Rafa (as rafa did to roger) to Rafa?
3. Will Rafa fade too?

Here is my answer

Federer
Unfortunaley yes. I think he will continue to challenge and put on some beautiful tennis but the #1 darth fed express machine will have chinks in his armor and will not dominate.

The New Rival
#1 Murray. If he can pull it together he has the talent to win multiple slams. Hard, grass maybe not clay.
#2 Nole–talent on all surfaces, BUT health issues must be resolved
#3Delpo–an IF he ever goes to top form. Can he beat Rafa on clay and grass?
#4 Is there a new threat–Golubev, Brazillian Hottie (not grass or hard), Dimitrov?

Will Rafa fade
Approx 1-2 years domination predicted.

Thoughts?


Kimmi Says:

Contador – how could u pick F-Lo to beat delpo…delpo is back. please prove miss contador wrong.

I like your picks for the first round, could have done the same. Verdasco match is a toss up..i agree. if he could not beat becker in bangkok..i doubt he can beat kohls.

GO Muzza, all the way ofcourse


grendel Says:

I’m going to take a leaf out of Huh’s book – watcha, Huh – and copy my post on the old thread onto this new one. It’s a bit presumptuous, but what’s the point of posting on a thread which is finished. Should have checked first, I know.

Zola

“I have always been very candid with my feelings for Federer”.

No you haven’t. You’re never candid about anything where Nadal is concerned, and your feelings for Federer don’t really exist outside Nadal – not that I can see, anyway. For example, the reason you disliked the talk about del Potro, when in the zone, being possibly unbeatable was not the sort of commonsense reason you gave but because that someone might actually be able to beat Nadal at his very best is intolerable to you. I know this from the truly absurd arguments I used to have with you. Kimberley the other day – when supporting your position – mentioned about Davydenko beating a prime Nadal in 2008 I think. You just wouldn’t accept that at the time, if Davydenko had won it had to be because Nadal was not in shape. And yet it has been obvious to many – including Nadal, b.t.w., a great admirer of Davydenko – that Davydenko has the weapons, or had, to beat absolutely anyone on his day. This was psychlogically unacceptable to you. So we went on and on, and it was clear that you were not open to reason – arguing with you was like arguing with a defender of the faith (Marxism, say), there was no real attempt to listen. And it was always clear why, and the frequent little digs you used to make at Federer – don’t kid yourself it was just about the alleged “arrogance”, memory’s a fine thing – were always in a context which I understood. You were determined that Nadal was better than Federer (now quite a commonplace idea for many), long before most people even thought of it, I sensed this quiet fanaticism in you straight away – and it went along with a sort of cuteness which was sort of irresistable. Hence I was always in two minds about you – kind of liking you, because you are likeable, but resenting your attitude to Federer which was never genuine (not objective criticism – God knows there’s plenty of that which can be made)), because it was simply the effect of your adoration – that’s not too strong a word – for Nadal. And b.t.w., of course you said Federer was a champion. Apart from the sheer silliness of not saying that, it adds, in your eyes, to the glamour of Nadal that he should be (in your eyes) superior to this champion. Not much kudos to be gained from being better than some sort of 2nd rate champion.

I am aware that you are “not talking to me”, and that’s fine. But all the same, you will have read this, and that’s probably no bad thing. Even though you won’t (understandably) accept anything coming from me, you ought to know I am only articulating what others have observed. You see, I rather doubt you do self-examination, never mind self-criticism, Zola.

Daniel

“I couldn’t enjoy watching Nadal in the past, but latelly, he is playing great attacking/killer tennis. A fan of tennis can’t let a player of his status pass by. He hit insane shots that only he can hit, as Fed once did. Plus he is the only one after Fed to put himself in a position to win 4 Slams in a row!”

You have a way of expressing yourself which I have always found admirable. I am a would-be literary type, and I am sometimes appalled by the kind of heavy, stiff language that can roll off my pen. You are so direct, and hit the nail absolutely. And tell me how I am thinking!

For a long time it’s struck me as quite ludicrous that just because of one’s tribal type loyalties one is unable to enjoy one of the glories of the tennis world. I have worked pretty hard on trying to change that attitude, and I’m not altogether there yet – but am slowly getting there, and hearing of your journey helps a lot. I find that once I’ve accepted Nadal is going to win a match, I can relax and appreciate his unique skills. So long as I want the other fellow to win, though, I tend to be curmudgeonly and frankly mean-spirited. Who loses from this? Exactly. It’s nuts. So I’m going to follow Nadal more in the years to come, and see if I can do so as a tennis fan, not a Nadal fan which is impossible for me. But contrary to how some people think, it is perfectly possible to enjoy a tennis match, including the skills on parade, when you do not care who wins. It will be emotion free, true, but it can be an aesthetic delight. Of course, emotion tends to creep in – that is, you thought you didn’t care who won, and you suddenly find yourself rooting for someone..

b.t.w. About the 4 on the trot. I think Nadal must be more favoured to do that than Fed ever was for the simple reason Fed was never the best on clay. It’s not clear, yet, that Nadal is thebest on hard, not by a long way. But it could conceivably happen, and that’s the difference.


guy Says:

‘“I couldn’t enjoy watching Nadal in the past, but latelly, he is playing great attacking/killer tennis. ‘

it’s true in the old days on hard nadal wasn’t as good to watch, even though he still made crazy shots here and there. many people forget he was only a teenager however.

but yes his style has become much more entertaining over the years. i used to prefer watching say davydenko or nalbandian, flatter hitters, but these days it’s touch and go.

meanwhile i was watching highlights of nadal versus coria the other day and it had some spectacular tennis. those two were a great matchup and it’s a shame coria didn’t continue because he played a stylish brand of clay tennis.


guy Says:

as for nadal’s level on hard,
i’ve witnessed both nalbandian and davydenko take him apart fair and square. i remember the first meeting of nalbandian and nadal in the indoor masters few years ago, very hyped game because they’d never met. and david wiped the floor with him. davy did the same in miami.
these two can beat anyone as proven and nadal is not above losing to them even in good form, as he’d readily admit.

but i would say nadal has gone up a gear since being manhandled by those two a few times. although this week isn’t helping my argument so much. still, i don’t believe we’ll see davy or nalby dominating nadal again in a match.


contador Says:

kimmi- you caught me. it doesn’t feel right to pick F-lo over delpo. i want delpo back to his form but i’m giving him more time. i trust his wrist but not his fitness. i’m optimistic that the surgery he had worked it’s magic – released the nerve and positioned it gently into a comfortable place away from further irritation and damage. * fingers crossed *

okay. i’ll keep my nickname. i own it by now. : ) but the jury is still out on alberto. my other favorite spaniard, LL “cool” sanchez lost badly today in the world championships road race-in fact, no spaniard did well. i’m sure the contador news didn’t help morale. spain is a huge cycling nation. it’s a tragedy.

tennis is starting already! wow, maybe i can stay up to stream delpo. gulbis comes on at a time i better be asleep.
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Kimberly, i don’t know. in answering your questions, i might as well dig myself a grave.

about nadal prolonging his career, i refer back to his doctor. it depends on his knees and how he manages them and handles prevention of other injuries / adapting his style of play. he is adapting his game, no doubt. is prp a total fix? appears he has lost weight again. i know he denies weight changes but his body has lost bulk since clay season, imo. it’s a smart move for late hc season.

federer started the downslope trend in 2008 when he got sick. he’s recovered, comeback and won big, even reached #1, suprised me last AO, but it’s not the domination that he had from 2004-2007. federer has given me years of celebration and thrills watching him play his style of tennis. i can’t complain.

i think rafa could have another 3 years on top but it might not look like fed’s streak. i would guess more ups and downs, like there have been the past 2 years for rafa.

federer says he’ll play until 2012. i have no idea what to expect about him winning more slams or being #1. of course i miss the glory years but i think i’m realistic in agreeing with you…his dominance is over. as soon as i say that i squirm a little. it’s unpredictable. federer is federer -honestly can’t count him out until he retires.

players will have to catch rafa after he’s come off a rest and not at his fighting best or something like murray did in toronto / baghdatis did in cincy.

i think nole can reach rafa and beat rafa in a GS final. maybe murray and maybe delpo can sneak in a GS during rafa’s dominance but it remains to be seen. and count on it, someone new and possibly over-looked atm will come up the ranks and be a rafa nemesis – likely a year or two off. rafa needs the competition. ; )

spaniard gimeno-traver takes the 1st set from argentine schwank. but match is suspended for rain. and i am falling asleep. have to see results in the morning.


kimberly Says:

I have total insomia. Terrible as I have to wake up to get kids to score and show houses all day. Checking scores and watching martin scorcese movies. Delpo/felo on serve.


Skeezerweezer Says:

grendel,

Absolutely fantastic post. I have been taking a break from posting to let the Rafa fan club girls have there worship fun. However, after reading the Fed arrogance stuff i was going to step in. You beat me to it. Kudos to you for wriiting a novella on the topic and putting things back in a Libra scale of sorts. After all it is October :)


Skeezerweezer Says:

Ben,

Notice at 17 his knee is even taped then….


montecarlo Says:

Delpo gonna lose 6-3,6-0 against Lopez… Its painful to see him struggling like this. He needs to play as many matches as possible. Hopefully he gets better draws in upcoming tournaments.


jane Says:

Delpo is going to take a while. But what about Berdych? Since his Wimbledon run, or really, since he lost in the quarters in Canada, he’s been in a definite slump. Don’t know if it’s injury or what? Meanwhile Simon seems to be back to something of his best, taking out Sam, and he likes indoor hard courts. So does Soderling. And it’ll be interesting to see how well Tsonga does now, after another long lay off. I see Ernie went out in flames. Sorry conty. : ( And Kimmi, looks like Hotsauce is in for a battle to get past Kohls.

Hoping for Murray vs. Nole final in Bejiing. These two haven’t played in so long! Maybe Roddick vs. Rafa in Tokyo? That’d be a good match.


Kimberly Says:

Apparently Fetching Feli has beat Delpo last 3 times they have played. That was not a good 1st round opponent for him.

Verdasco lost to Kohls and Gulibs lost. Quality of field somewhat narrowed.

In Bejiing the surprises continue as well. Simon beat Querrey (he always plays well at the end of the year) Berrer beats Berdy. Berdych is officially slumping. I don’t get the guy—From Indian Wells to Wimby he plays great and then just crash and burn.

Kohlshreiber is a quality opponent. I can’t rag on Verdasco too much.

So here is my guess for who will qualify for WTF
1. Nadal (already qualified)
2. Fed (already qualified)
3.Novak
4. Murray
5. Soderling
6. Berdych
7. Roddick
8. Verdasco

Ferrer and Youzney would be the outsider chancers. Normally the indoors would give a lot of outsiders chances but Murray and Nole are a little short on titles this year so I think they will be determined to take a lot of them.


grendel Says:

Ben

your link showed that to beat Nadal you must – at the very least – have power at your disposal. And Hewitt doesn’t. It was like watching a flyweight against middleweight.

guy

The Coria/Nadal match was simply out of this world. What happened to Coria is extremely sad. And noone could possibly have predicted it – that’s the important thing.I agree that Nadal has “gone up a notch” and is now beyond the capabilities of Nalbandian and Davydenko. It remains to be seen whether anyone can raise themselves to this new level.


Kimberly Says:

Guy Grendel-I saw two great Nadal/Corias on tennis channel last spring, one in Montecarlo and one in ROme. The one is Rome was better.

It was rivalry week on the tennis channel and they showed the 2008 Wimby final. A few things clear from that match:
1. Nadal plays better now than he did that match
2. Fed plays worse than the last three sets (actually similar to the first two sets) sorry fed fans its just my opinion.
3. None of the other matches on rivalry week could begin to touch the quality of these two players, and yes that included agassi and sampras. Again just my opinion.


jane Says:

Interesting clip Ben! Rafa plays fast there, no tucking hair behind ears etc. You can sure see why he is where he is now from that clip – even then, in 2004, he looked so focused and determined; he’d not won a slam yet right? In that excerpt he also holds his position on the baseline and hits with a lot of depth and power. So at some point after this, he must’ve reverted back to more defensive play.

grendel, interesting stuff about the journey it takes for some of us to warm up to some players. I have a tendency to root for “underdogs,” but those who could be at the top, have the talent for it and all that (for e.g., Roddick, Safin, Murray, Nole, even Gasquet). After getting over my resentment towards Fed for winning everything in sight, I’ve come to enjoy watching him now. Maybe it’s easier because he’s (somewhat) more beatable these days (though as conty says, Fed is still Fed). But also because my resistance was largely about what I felt was the predictability during his dominance – I’d feel like I’d figured out the plot’s end and therefore couldn’t enjoy the story, the symbols, the setting, the characters. The guy in white always won. Like a Hollywood movie. (I tend to prefer bleak Scandinavian films, lol) Even now, I find myself beginning to feel that way about Rafa’s dominance, although he is not quite as dominant as Fed was yet. He won the last 3 slams of the year, and almost all of them in straight sets; however, I felt at times during Wimbledon that he could’ve lost. But he didn’t. I didn’t really feel that way during the FO or USO – it felt inevitable that Rafa would win, as the tournaments wore on. But Rafa had a tough year in 2009 after a great 2008, so it’s not like his dominance has been steady for 3 or 4 years, like Fed from 04-07. If Rafa goes through next year winning 3 of 4 slams again, I’ll probably start cheering for someone to wear a black hat and ride the dark horse. Just a natural inclination to want others to win, and not only the 250 tournaments. ; ) I guess we all have different ways of being fans of players and of tennis. And there is room for all of us, thankfully.


kimberly Says:

Jane eventually everyone even a lot of fans get sick of the same person winning. My husband is a fed fan and for the forst tome he rooted against him for fish at cincy. And when delpo won at uso he wasn’t devastated. Enough can be enough. By 15 slams his loyalty was still there but somewhat diminished. From the posts I have seen a lot of fed fans on this site felt similar.


jane Says:

Fed was so exceptional though; never before has anyone dominated the game so wholly like he did. Wow. Even on clay, he was always in the finals, and he would’ve dominated there were it not for a certain Spaniard. Can you imagine? Fed would’ve had calender slam after calender slam! But maybe he would’ve worn out sooner? Maybe in some weird and ironic way Rafa prolonged Roger’s career, not only by allowing him a little rest but also by keeping him hungry for something. By now, Roger must be at least a little satiated. ; ) Now when I watch him, I just enjoy his tennis – whether he wins or not. I enjoyed watching him in Canada, Cincy and throughout the USO, where he was at times on the knife’s edge of his best. He’s something else.

Rafa is amazing to watch in a different way. It all seems quite effortless for Roger, whereas with Rafa it’s the focus and the effort that blows me away. Rafa’s a guy who rises to any challenge – even that of facing down one of the sports greatest ever on the greatest stages of the sport.

And we are all lucky for both of these players. Don’t get me wrong.

Just now, can someone else have a slam or two please? ; )


Ben Pronin Says:

Guy, I agree, but Hewitt used to own Nadal. And he won that particular match in straight sets. I’m guessing, despite those highlights, Nadal was inconsistent. I can’t think of any other explanation for Hewitt beating him.


grendel Says:

Well, exactly ben – in that clip Nadal was clearly too strong for Hewitt but, it seems, he didn’t have the consistency against the wily campaigner – who was always great at playing the waiting game; and if there was a weakness, he’d pounce. That’s how I saw Hewitt, again and again.You just couldn’t rule the guy out. I wouldn’t say he owned Nadal though. It was round about that time, can’t recall the precise year without looking it up, that Hewitt beat Nadal at the AO. I watched that match, and Nadal was definitely on top – but Hewitt hung on and hung on and Nadal ran out of steam. The future was plain to see though. I think that was the year Hewitt played Safin in the final?


grendel Says:

“(I tend to prefer bleak Scandinavian films, lol)” (jane). There’s a wonderful Swedish television series based on Henning Mankell’s detective Wallander – there’s an English version with Kenneth Branagh which is good, but the Swedish one is far better. Plenty of enticing Scandinavian gloom for you there, jane, which spilt over into actual life actually. The girl who played Wallander’s daughter (also a policewoman) actually committed suicide at the end of the first series. She had a sad, sensitive face, and you somehow weren’t surprised. For the second series, accordingly, they had to rejig the whole cast – particularly since one of the main characters also committed suicide, although this was in the drama, not actual life. The second series was just as good, just as gloomy. Highly recommended for connoisseurs of sub arctic misery – plenty of dramatic tension, though, don’t get me wrong.

It sounds like your new attachment to Fed is rather dependent on him losing, jane. I am similarly split down the middle w.r.t.Nadal. I sympathise with tennislover’s keeness to see just how good Nadal can get. That must be fascinating for any tennis fan. But then I should like to see somebody else rise to the challenge and take him on. I really don’t think Federer is up to that task, so it will have to be someone new – and none of us quite know who that will be. Assuming he exists.


Leon Says:

Grendel Oct 3rd, at 8:17pm :

I was thrilled when reading that, especially the second part (to Daniel) – you have expressed exactly my feelings, up to like 98%, and so elegantly! Sure, you know your rank yourself, but all the same – my warmest appreciations.
Minor (very minor!) remark is that “Nadal must be more favoured to do that [the 4] than Fed ever was” NOT “for the simple reason Fed was never the best on clay” (remind 2009). Again, you yourself name the true difference right below (“But it could conceivably happen”). The difference, indeed.
Amazingly, two years ago, after the horrible FO final, I told you (at some another site) that Federer would won the next year. No predictions now, I am pretty happy with the current state of art and perspectives.

Thanks again.


jane Says:

grendel, thanks for the recommendation; I’d not heard of that series, but I’ll see if my local vid shop can get it (or I could always try illegal downloading – shhhhh).

“It sounds like your new attachment to Fed is rather dependent on him losing, jane. ” Not really. For example, the only times I actually “wanted” him to lose at Canada, Cincy and the USO were were when he played Djoko and Murray. I was happy to see him defend Cincy since he didn’t face either. In the past, I often didn’t watch his matches, as I just knew he’d win. But now, I watch them all, and I thoroughly enjoyed his mastery of the wind and Soderling. And when he lost in the quarters at Wimbledon I turned to my son and husband, and said, “wow, it really is the beginning of the end of an era”. So it’s not dependent on him losing, but it is partially dependent on his being less dominant, admittedly. That doesn’t mean I don’t appreciate his wins or his tennis. When he beat Murray during the AO, I still recall what were called his “liquid whip” forehands. I only wish it weren’t Andy M getting the lashing. And when he goes out early and gives his wave, I feel regret for him. Anyhow, it’s complex, not straightforward. I just know my feelings have changed considerably.


grendel Says:

o.k.jane. b.t.w. if you leave it for a year or 2, you can get dvd collections of an entire series quite cheaply on Amazon. And there’s always ebay. I think you’d enjoy them – very absorbing.
Leon – I remember someone predicting Fed would win RG some months before he actually did. So it was you! Thanks for the appreciation. I think there’s all sorts of different ways of writing attractive posts – and that’s what’s good about a site like this. You literally see all sorts, people you’d never come across in the normal course of events, and that makes for a terrific, and enjoyable, mix.


guy Says:

ben
nadal had close matches with hewitt back to back years at teh AO. hewitt won basically because his all round game was better, serve, net game, backhand, slice. mentally hewitt and nadal about equal, defence also. and nadal had the bigger forehand. overall nadal had more holes in his game. that’s what i make of it.
hewitt still gives nadal a bit of trouble, actually on clay more than anywhere these days which is strange. but he takes the ball early like davydenko etc., just doesn’t have the power on the forehand.
unfortunately for hewitt his weakness is the most important shot really, the forehand. and it really is noticeable weak compared to other guys. but i think the rest of his game is very polished.


grendel Says:

yes, it’s curious that Hewitt has quite recently given Nadal trouble at RG. I bet Nadal rather enjoyed his matches with Hewitt, since he was being quite severely tested without there being any real doubt about the eventual outcome. As guy says, Hewitt’s forehand is a real weakness – it always looks kind of pathetic, as he limbers up to deliver the big one, and the result is not much more than a mouse. You can’t help wondering how far Hewitt might have gone had he been able to strike the ball just that little bit harder.

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