Federer Still Winless v. Top 10 in 2011; Nadal, Murray Collide in Monte Carlo SF
by Sean Randall | April 15th, 2011
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Remember a few years ago when Roger Federer essentially tore through an entire season without losing to a Top 10 play? I think he amassed some ridiculous number like 23-0 against his top foes during the streak. Well, times as we have seen, are a changing.

On a blustery afternoon at the Monte Carlo Tennis Masters, Federer dropped to 0-5 this season vs. the creme de le creme of the men’s tennis world courtesy of a 6-4, 6-4 setback to World No. 9 Jurgen Melzer.

Federer has never lost to Melzer in his life in their previous three meetings, nor had he lost a set that is until today.

“I don’t think I played terrible,” Federer said. “Obviously, it was still the first week of clay, so I don’t expect myself to play my very best. I think it’s been a solid tournament.

“I think I should have definitely gotten one of the sets. Every time I had this slight opening, things didn’t go my way. I thought he did well. He played aggressive, played the right way he was supposed to.”

The problem for Federer, who hasn’t won a title since Doha at the start of the season, is that he’s just not beating the top players, any of them. I can give him a pass or cut him slack for losing to Novak Djokovic – everyone has – and even to Nadal, although the effort was rather meek in Miami last month. However, a guy like Federer cannot lose to Melzer. Not when he’s trying to make a statement that he’s still a threat to win major titles.

“It’s always disappointing regardless against who you lose,” Federer said. “As long as you keep trying, test all the things out there, you feel like you gave it all the chances, that’s really what matters to me. Look, I wish I could have gone further in the tournament. You know, it was okay. I got three matches and I’m pretty happy.”

Happy to get three matches in? If you say so, Rog.

Not to be entirely overlooked, Melzer has had some big wins so let’s give him credit. Remember he beat Djokovic and David Ferrer at the French Open last year, and he beat Djokovic and Nadal last fall. But still, even though he says otherwise, Roger cannot be feeling to confident about where his game is right now.

Again, against Top 10 players this season he’s managed just ONE set!

In tennis, often you are only as good as who you beat. And through four months of the season Federer hasn’t beaten anyone! (w/apologies to Marin Cilic, Stan Wawrinka – twice, and JW Tsonga.)

After a great finish to 2010, it’s been quite the opposite in 2011.

“I’ll be back in Switzerland training on clay,” Fed said. “Hopefully the weather is going to be okay so I get some chances to hit outdoors. I’m looking forward to going back home.”

As for tomorrow, I think Andy Murray will get his beating from Nadal. And I think Ferrer prevails maybe in three sets in a tough, revenge match against Melzer.

“It’s a great challenge for me,” said Murray of playing Nadal who leads the Scot 9-4. “Obviously, a very difficult match. But I feel like I’m hitting the ball well. So I need to go in with the right attitude, the right game plan, and play my style of tennis on this surface. I’ve played many great matches with Rafa in the past. I always enjoy playing against him. Tomorrow I’ll give 110 per cent. I think I’ve got a chance.”

A chance? No you don’t. Sorry Andy, just because you beat a qualifier, a hobbled Simon and Nicole Vaidisova’s husband isn’t going scare Rafa. That said, it was a positive week for Murray and I think he’ll play well tomorrow.

SATURDAY MONTE CARLO SCHEDULE

COURT CENTRAL start 11:15 am
[1] B Bryan (USA) / M Bryan (USA) vs [5] M Fyrstenberg (POL) / M Matkowski (POL)

Not Before 1:00 PM
[4] D Ferrer (ESP) vs [7] J Melzer (AUT)

Not Before 3:00 PM
[1] R Nadal (ESP) vs [3] [WC] A Murray (GBR)
J Chela (ARG) / B Soares (BRA) vs [6] R Bopanna (IND) / A Qureshi (PAK)


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272 Comments for Federer Still Winless v. Top 10 in 2011; Nadal, Murray Collide in Monte Carlo SF

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patzin Says:

Interesting that Andy has improved so much this week. When he is on, he can give Rafa a hard time. Is that this week? Don’t know if he can pull it all together on clay vs the “King”. However I noticed that Andy is sliding better on clay yesterday and I was impressed & thought he has improved on clay. So I expect Rafa to win tomorrow but it could be interesting.


grendel Says:

“Obviously, a very difficult match.” says Murray. In some cultures, to defeat a formidable opponent, you borrow from his soul. Murray’s nod in this direction is, it seems, to borrow from Nadal’s vocabulary. I expect somewhere, Nadal too is opining how “very difficult” his match with Murray will be.

Whilst I believe someone will beat Nadal on clay this season, I don’t think it will be Murray. Nadal will be up for this one. He’ll be beaten when he drops his guard a little.

I thought Federer looked poor against Cilic, who donated the first set to Federer. (He had held his serve with ease despite having only 18% success on his first serve – and then just threw his serve away, Federer’s contribution to the break being minuscule). Barry Cowan said he thought this showed how great Federer was – namely, that he deliberately coasted in 3rd gear in order to save himself for later, sterner battles. I was glad to hear this – grasp at any straw – but I was more than sceptical. It didn’t look that way to me at all.

People say Federer is in denial, I doubt it. The confidence that very great champions build up does not collapse, it is drained little by little. Federer to me has the look of someone who feels he has mislaid something valuable but assumes that in due course it will be recovered. There is a hint of puzzled exasperation in his interviews, and a stolid patience or endurance, too. One fears a little for him.


Mila Says:

Sean, you are very very wrong in denying Murray ANY chance against Nadal tomorrow!

You may like Nadal all you want but a player of Murray’s caliber has a chance against any player in the world, he’s that good!

Of course Nadal is still heavy favorite to win that match, but you implying the 100% probability is a bit childish.


Antonissimo Says:

Great statistical analysis ‘fed still winless against top10′
=lost 1 time to no1
=lost 3 times to no2(who is unbeaten all year)
and now as soon as he lost to no9 we can now include it to be cant win against top 10 only took a few hrs to jump on thant on hey statistical genious!


skeezerweezer Says:

Sean,

Although it is tough as a fan to swallow your article on the Fed, there is more “tru ism” than not in your words. You point out the cold hard stuff, and no matter how Fed wants to spin it, the reality is there. This is a typical interview here now as he downplays the effect of a loss and says he played ok and he didn’t do this or that and if he did all things would have been ok. WTF? He wiped out these guys before!!

Hey Fed…what about when you dominated? How did that happen? Unlike some up here, I don’t buy that 29 your “washed up” or “declining”. Sampras played his best stuff in his last GS title against his best rival(Agassi)at the ripe old age.

I find it hard to accept he is “declining” at 29, rather he thinks he can do “it” whenever he wants, and now he can’t. 29 is not a death warrant in tennis.

So, why?

Maybe he has adjusted to the high life and earned great lifestyle with money, jets, kids, the treatment of a King, and all that. What does/can it equal?

Complacency.

He needs to run stairs, lift weights, 2 to 3 a day workouts and someone who is going to kick his a$$ in practice. He says he loves the game, but what is he playing for now? Wins?… or just “being there” cause he owns the Slam records?

Knowing what you need to do to execute and actually doing it requires physical desire and the will and desire to do it. Ya gotta go work it man.

Hey Fed, wake up call, the clock is tickin. Watch the “Rocky” movies and get motivated, just “being there” is turning into a journeyman of tennis, just happy to hang out in the locker room and be “in the game”. You’re better than that Fed. Put in 1000%, play like the GOAT, and if you can’t, hang it and let rafa and Nole take over, with the added spice of Muuuuuzzzzaaa.

So I let my A$$ hang out for all to see, so I am expecting major backlash, but no prob, bring it…am just a frustrated fan of the great one :(

out


jane Says:

Skeeze good one, you tell him, “Fed, do stairs!” Except “the Fighter” is better than “Rocky” movies, imho. Or what about “Raging Bull”? One bull to counter another, no? :) Hey, you going down to Coachella? I have Pixies tickets but would love to go to a festival, bands all day!


tennisfansince76 Says:

@Skeezer respectfully disagree re Sampras last grand slam. he was nowhere near his best. not even close. he had been taking bad losses for 2 years ( Georg Bastl ?! at Wimbledon??! for chrissakes. things lined up nicely for him in that last run. he had a good draw. he got Sheng Shalken in the semis. a good player but not a GS winner. and then he got Agassi in the final after he had been softened up by having to beat a young in his prime Hewitt in 4 sets the day before. Agassi was visibly flat for most of that match ( nowhere near the level from the year before QF from either one) and still Sampras looked as if he was about to die in the 4th set. Agassi had a BP or 2 and did not cash in. had he it would have gone 5 and they would have taken Sampras out of there on a stretcher. so Sampras could thank Hewitt for GS #14. if he had had to go thru 2 young guns on consecutive days to win the title as he would have had to the 2 previous years ( 2000: Hewitt/Safin, 2001 Safin/Hewitt) he would have gotten smeared in straight sets as indeed happened both those times.


dari Says:

No backlash from this fed fan, skeeze. He better break out the medicine balls and agility ladders while he’s at it.

During the match today, when fed was waiting for tuna to get a backrub, he started doing some little stretches and jumps and he started doing some of the most PATHETIC lunges I’ve ever seen. I know they don’t “count” he was just trying to stay loose, but I’ve not seen such a poor display from a professional athlete. It was like he said “I know, i’ll do some lunges” and did one at about 75% and then realized what he got himself into and then the lunges got shallow and more shallow until he have up. It had me lol’ing in the bed at 645 am.
Anyway, I hope roger does have an agassi revamp, some serious training and practice time, cause he’s too good to just waste what I think could be another good year or two on tour.
he talks about how much he wants to play still, but I think he is being a little lazy off court. Can’t blame him, he’s done everything in the sport and now has a family, motivation might not be there. but we all want to see him at his best. It might take a REALLY bad loss for him to do something, but I wish he would address the issues before it gets there. Just do it, Rog.
Jane, I got dragged to the fighter thinking it was Rocky 2 or 6 or whatever, but it turned out fantastic. How not with Christian bale, ya know.


margot Says:

grendel: generally I agree with your comments about coaches, however, in Andy’s case 1) he was v. upset that Corretja was not at AO and this has apparently resulted in Corretja’s departure and Andy’s miserable form at IW and Miami and 2) surely a coach could sort out that damn inconsistent serve?
Not sure about Andy’s chances. Can he really go from zero to hero in the course of one tournament?
Unlikely I feel. Also, I believe it’s very windy in MC. Rafa copes much better in wind than Andy. Remember horror against Rafa in a windy somewhere, IW?,where Andy imploded.


jane Says:

Dari, just off the topic for a moment, I thought the same about the Fighter, but the acting was good, all those girl-women in the family with weirdo hair, bad late 80s swooshes, lol. Also the way Walberg stays so composed against the insanity of Leo and Bale’s characters, very well done.

Not sure about Andy M’s chances but I hope he makes it a match for Rafa. Unfortunately probably wont see as going to sleep now. Cheer loudly at the tube margot!!


Colin Says:

Grendel, I don’t think Murray is borrowing from Rafa when he uses that phrase. I think he is – as always – simply saying what he thinks. If he didn’t say it would be difficult, people would promptly say he was arrogant. He also said he would go on court intending to win, as this was the attitude you had to have. Not over-confident, not over-respectful. Just honest.
I very much doubt he’ll win, but he might make a match of it (as long as it’s not too windy!)


grendel Says:

no, I didn’t really think Murray was borrowing – just couldn’t help being amused by the lingo. Down with the wind!

Agree with tennisfansince76 – last slam all set up for lucky pete, just the way he said. And that’s what I’ve felt for some time, if Fed’s going to win another slam, he’s gonna need all the luck of the ages. that is, circumstances conspire hopefully….

There’s something very unusual, unique really, in the curve of Fed’s career. Two longish tails on either side of an utterly outrageous rampage of conquest which will never again be even approached, never mind equalled. That’s not to say that Nadal, for instance, won’t overhaul Fed’s slam record – but if he does, it will be over a long extended period. Such has Fed’s dominance been that when it is over, completely over, few can believe it – including, up to a point, Federer.


grendel Says:

to elaborate slightly, this curve is the “normal curve”, nothing unusual there – it’s just the sheer blockbuster nature of the central portion which is so striking. Compare Sampras, a slam near the outset, a slam at the end. I get the feeling with Federer that a magician came and weaved incomparable magic for a short period, and then flew away again, leaving a husk. A talented husk with cunning imitative powers, true – but still a husk. The magician has parted elsewhere, to go wherever magicians go when they have done their stuff.


margot Says:

grendel: v. nice analogy but u will get into big trouble for using word “husk”…
jane: can’t stand boxing so have seen none of the films u mentioned, but if Haye is going to be able help Andy, why I can see myself warming to the sport big time…..;)


WTF Says:

Federico Gil is Nicole Vaidisova’s husband? Where is she now? What has he done with her?


Kimmi Says:

wow!! ferrer making melzer look very ordinary..


Kimmi Says:

WTF – Stepanek is vaidisova husband. she quit tennis i think…


Polo Says:

Vaidosova is married to Radel Stepanek. She retired. She was a very good tennis player but just like most female players, did not have the heart, or shall I say, mental fortitude to win big matches.


Miki Says:

I think it’s all mental with Federer. I mean, he was very sharp at the WTF, which was less than half a year ago. That said, I think we should all give the guy a break. After all, most of us are light years behind him in our own jobs and occupations.


dari Says:

Hmmm, Murray match delayed by an elbow injury for Andy. He is taking more time to warm up, but apparently is gonna play on :/


margot Says:

All we need, Andy is injured :( Is giving the match a go but game over I feel :(


Dory Says:

WTF WTF!!! They aren’t even showing anything on TV here so I switched to an internet stream to find Andy’s injured?


Kimmi Says:

Oh no..murray with elbow problem. he didn’t have a chance in this match but now its over…


Daniel Says:

Yes Margot, game over it is. I think He will just play a set to not dissapointthe crowds, if it is really playable.


Ike Says:

well……tomorrow Rafa will have one more Monte-Carlo Masters ….it’s getting damn boring on Clay!


Ike Says:

i never liked watching clay tournaments (including FO) that much……and now it’s just too monotonous…hopefully Nole will be back and beat Rafa….


Ike Says:

Andy is playing well in this game…..let’s c how long he lasts….


Daniel Says:

Wow, Murray’s backhand is excelent and Nadal making 4 series in the forehand, 2 forces and 2 unforced.


Kimmi Says:

this is very tough for dear muzza. injury or not..rafa is in for the kill.


Duro Says:

“Remember he beat Djokovic and David Ferrer at the French Open last year, and he beat Djokovic and Nadal last fall.”

No Jurgen Melzer has beaten Novak twice, especially last fall. Rafa maybe, but Novak – not.

And he hardly will ever again. He’s gonna pay actually for it biiiiig time. Next time they play that is.

Tuna to beat Novak… Statistical error.


Kimmi Says:

no one can beat rafa like this. come back nole, come back delpo. you can try!! murray to be served a bread stick here..


Ike Says:

Andy is hitting BH very well….he is hitting those BH winners on Rafa’s FH side!


Ike Says:

Kimmi,
Rome is i think Nole’s best chance to beat Rafa on clay…..


Kimmi Says:

ah duro..very confident i see!!


Daniel Says:

At least Muitay is playing agressive, using drop shots. I
Think He should to return more to Nadal’s backhand. Almost all points He started attacking that wing He got the point.
Let’s see if He can confirm a serve for a chance.


Duro Says:

Kimmimmissimo, how else?

Especially considering circumstances… ;-).


Kimmi Says:

seriously though murray only winning 1/7 second serves


Kimmi Says:

yeah, he wins another second serve..way to go muzza


Kimmi Says:

duro – you say “never”..nole is doing great but never is a very long time..

i will remind you when tuna beat nole next


Kimmi Says:

break muzza..just following the score, i don’t want to see muzza beaten so bad :)

here here here here muuuuzza


Ike Says:

YES!!!!!!!!!


Duro Says:

See you next life then, kimmimmissimo!


Kimmi Says:

YES! break!! ha-ha.
duro – should i be confident about muzza chances here?


Ike Says:

Kimmi, duro!
i think we have got a match here!


Kimmi Says:

muzza refusing any baking goods at the mo.


Ike Says:

i really like Andy’s serve …it’s very easy and nice to watch….


Skeezerweezer Says:

@TF76,

Wow you’re precise memory of Pete’s run at his last Slam was an interesting read, thanks for that :).

I understand Pete could have, well, most likely may have been lucky or partly so to win that Slam. but he did. So here is a guy who holds 16, the most, ever. In the current era, Ivan Ljubicic won IW at 31, and beat Rafa to do it. And he can’t hold a candle to Fed. Sure it is not a Slam but in the past era Agassi won(Slam) at 29, Connors(slam) at 31. Anyways…enough grumbling..:(

Murray breaks back on serve….


Ike Says:

15-30 ……..need couple of good first serves here….


Ike Says:

nice serve Andy! keep it up!!!


Kimmi Says:

muzza needs to get first serves..not doing well on seconds. HOLD pls HOLD


Ike Says:

great rally…..Andy is staying in the rally…winning it……nice


Ike Says:

kimmi
B+


Ike Says:

Kimmi
i mean “be positive” hopefully u got it :)


Kimmi Says:

this is important for andy to hold. hold phuleeeese


Duro Says:

Kimmi, the most important thing here is: Muzza is back; he is good (always was), Rafa is not that invincible as it looks like etc. etc.

People just have to be persistent and hit as hard as they can and never give up! Rafa’s intimidation of the others is the very big part his success and tactic.


Kimmi Says:

ha-ha B+, i like it


Ike Says:

Skeezerweezer

in the open era “the great players” (my definition of great player = player who wins six or more grandslams) have won total of 6 grandslams after they turned 30


Kimmi Says:

oh no..break point. c’mon andy


Ike Says:

got it on the line!


Ike Says:

two good first serves Andy…


Kimmi Says:

this game is becoming super important


Ike Says:

yes Kimmi…..be positive!


Ike Says:

one more serve Andy.


Ike Says:

noooooooooooooo


Kimmi Says:

the score board is stuck or what..long game


Kimmi Says:

ike..is the noooooo means he is broken?


Ike Says:

Duro

remember what David Nalbandian said last year re. Rafa and Roger’s domination in last 7-8 years………mostly mental!


Ike Says:

kimmi
he lost the point… i was overreacting……….but he holds …….that’s good.


Kimmi Says:

YEEEES! he hold! the score board says he holds ike.

now break andy


Ike Says:

Rafa is feeling the HEAT of Andy’s game!


dari Says:

MONSTER hold from McMurray!
He is working that backhand side of nadal, and coming up with some huge fh’s himself


Kimmi Says:

maybe i should watch???


Ike Says:

Andy u can’t miss that BH, that’s ur bread & butter shot!


Ike Says:

Kimmi
what do u mean “maybe i should watch???”, u r not watching it right now? get outta here!!!


Ike Says:

dari
i m not sure if Andy’s FH is still there…he is still defensive on FH side……he is hitting those BHs very well though.


Duro Says:

Hi, Ike.

You have to kill Rafa to beat him.

Push him far away from the baseline, attack him constantly, never give up and persistently and persistently hit hard and believe!!!

He has chances. Just has to be aggressive and keep on going until tomorrow if necessary!

Rafa pulls back if not successful in crushing his opponent’s will!

Stay there Muzzaaaaaaa!!!!


Ike Says:

i don’t wanna sound like Mary Carilo ……..everyone knows this is the game for Andy


Kimmi Says:

i am too nervous for andy ike, i cant watch. at least he got 4 games. needs to hold here though


Ike Says:

Duro
agree, keep pushing Rafa…he is human too! eventually he will give up…i think Nole beat him mentally in IW and Miami finals.


Ike Says:

kimmi
don’t b nervous…..to be honest….i m not nervous at all, i don’t think Andy has any chance to beat Rafa….i m just hoping he will beat Rafa…….


Ike Says:

Andy has gotta do something with that FH…it’s not his killer shot…def. not against Rafa


Ike Says:

oh noooooooooooo
hopefully Andy will stay + in the second set


dari Says:

Awww, too bad. It was a great set, though. I hardly noticed Rafa?


Lulu Iberica Says:

Yes! Vammmmooooossss! I was on pins and needles that whole set! Murray playing great again, Nadal not invincible.


Daniel Says:

Murray chilas very poirly his shots this last game. 2 times He gás the forehand and went for Nadal’s backhand in the mudos of the court. Nadal unleashed both times sendibg Murray pdf the cour on the forehand side to take control of the point. He can’t just aim the bh like that. He has to do what He was doing all set: Deep and angle, When the short ball comes attack the forehamd crosscourt.


margot Says:

Aaah! Andy’s serve has let him down again! He’s gotta get a serving coach quickly, something like 9/17 on second serve :(
Andy losing so why am I happy….because gr8 match and Andy’s got his mojo back YEAH!! :)


Ike Says:

Lulu Iberica
NO ONE is invincible….it’s just matter of time and will!


Ike Says:

margot

agree, he is gotta get a coach……
his first serve% is below 50, second serve winning % is below 30……..


margot Says:

kimmi: Me, Andy’s biggest fan is watching, so must you! No bagels for Andy! Come on!


Daniel Says:

Well that was the match, 0:30 again Murray could break to open the set but Nadal holds.


dari Says:

Maybe I think of Murray fh so little, ike, that any good work on it impresses me, but he did have some nice ones in that first set. At the very end and now at the beginning of this set not so much.
Andy and all the crowd thought he had the point won on that bh.


Ike Says:

oh no….come on Andy, get some first serves in


Ike Says:

dari
whenever i m watching Andy play, i m comparing his game to Nole’s. Nole’s FH (when it’s clicking) is lot more aggressive than Andy’s.


Ike Says:

it’s in!


Duro Says:

Just stay there, Scotsman…


dari Says:

Haha, ike, that was sooo close. A.time when the cord helps you out


Ike Says:

average duration of a game is over 7 minutes……..


Kimmi Says:

margot – i cant bear nadal beating my boys up too badly. yes, andy making a match of this..

I have to go out though, good luck andy. Go Go GOOO!


Ike Says:

i think to beat Rafa u have to break his FH…when u hit a winner on Rafa’s FH side…and he has that “depressed” look on his face…that’s the sense that he is losing it…..


Duro Says:

And one more thing: Murray was booed against Simon.
Anybody watched one-leg Simon beating Ljubičić?

That little cunning Frenchman…

Murray did exactly what he should…


Ike Says:

dari
Andy needs all that luck……….


margot Says:

Now Andy hold serve-and easily dammit!


Daniel Says:

Wow, don’t remember to ser any one leading Nadal in this tourney in any set. The important thing in this marcha is that Murray is back and a contender on clay as well. Way to go Muzza!


Ike Says:

Duro
u don’t need to call a Frenchman “cunning”, the word Frenchman includes all that LOL

btw, why did the crowd boo Andy? just to sympathy to Simon?


pigirl1 Says:

Murray is making this match a tight affair! Go Andy! Don’t lose your will =]


Lulu Iberica Says:

Of course, Ike, no one is invincible, but Raf has often looked close to it on clay! Anyway, I agree w/above comments that Fedal dominance has been somewhat due to mental strength, intimidation of opponents. Nowadays Roger is vulnerable to any top player, and Rafa’s looking more vulnerable, too. Novak is just on fire with his game AND confidence, and now Murray looks to be coming back strong. If Rog gets taken out earlier, and both Andy and Novak are playing like this, Rafa is in for trouble! Andy just got the break in 2nd set — he’s still holding on and playing aggressive. It’s great for tennis, scary for me!


Ike Says:

margot
i think Andy is getting his serve rhythm, i don’t c a problem here….


pigirl1 Says:

and if only Andy can up the level of his serve…


Ike Says:

how did Andy miss that??????


Lulu Iberica Says:

Basically, I’m beginning to understand how Gannu feels, and Raf’s still #1!


Daniel Says:

Ihh, this is a Nadal point all over. It was tombe 40-0 any other player. Focos Murray, He has the momentum. Nadal is making a fee errors.


Ike Says:

i don’t remember previous meetings between Andy and Rafa, but i think this is the best Andy has played against Rafa on clay….


pigirl1 Says:

yeah and who says andy cannot play on clay


Daniel Says:

Hold, if Nadal breavks back He will also breaks Mirray spirit.


pigirl1 Says:

this should be a love service hold for andy…


Ike Says:

Lulu Iberica
as we all understand Rafa is just 24-25, but he is playing top class tennis for last 7 years, that’ lot of tennis mileage…i just hope he can win 8 more GS!


Gannu Says:

Lulu alreday…??? wait till rafa gets dislodged and dominated by Djoko and Murray… It feels miserable.. but i guess one needs to accept…. someday it has to happen and we should be prepared!


Ike Says:

ok Andy, let’s re-focus…..deuce…


Duro Says:

This is only a matter of consistency and will and mind gaming…

The only question here is: Is Muzza gonna stay there till the end. Nothing else he needs. Only Rafa can lose here…

Ike, they booed him because of the drop shots. Simon was injured and Andy used it.

When Ljubičić didn’t two years ago, he lost. Leading comfortably before that, but not wanting to use it considering it as shameful… But cunning Simon stood there with one leg and won in the end.


Ike Says:

sweet………


Lulu Iberica Says:

Unbelievable point! On my crappy stream the ball looked out like 3 times!


Ike Says:

does anyone remember this was a 40-0 game for Andy


Daniel Says:

Unbelievable this last 2 points. Nadal painted the libes in what should be game Murray.


Ike Says:

ok Andy, let’s re-focus…..deuce…


Ike Says:

ok Andy, let’s re-focus…..deuce…

again


Ike Says:

ok Andy, let’s re-focus…..deuce…

again!


Ike Says:

Duro
no mercy for the con man!


dari Says:

!!!!!!!!!!!!
Margot do you see this!


Ike Says:

YESSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!
that’s what i m talking about!!!


pigirl1 Says:

andy holds!!!!! can’t believe it!!! and a standing ovation from the crowd? :)


Ike Says:

that game lasted for about 15 minutes i guess


margot Says:

Andy! Andy! Andy! Fabulous play! Come on!


Ike Says:

pigirl1, dari, margot,
Andy’s gotta a chance……….i think he needs to fight like the way he did in Shanghai few years ago against Federer…….fight like as if there is no tomorrow…


Ike Says:

Andy don’t give any freebies………


Ike Says:

another stroke of genius from Murray……


Duro Says:

Novak’s tactic… Hm… Andy watched or talked to Nole?

Just stay there Scotsman, just stay there. Nothing else you need…


Lulu Iberica Says:

Gannu — I think you have it worse than me as Roger was absolute tops, dominant #1 for so long, while Rafa was an underdog, and I can try to go back to seeing him as the underdog. BUT, that’s a lot harder on clay. :(


Lulu Iberica Says:

Ike — I want Rafa to win 8 more slams, too, but if he can’t win MC, then he certainly can’t win 8 GS! Unfortunately, I didn’t really know about Rafa until 2007, so I missed years of clay domination!


margot Says:

Double break!! Come on!!


Ike Says:

Murray breaks again!!!!!!!!!!


Lulu Iberica Says:

Is Rafa slower these days, or Andy and Nole faster? Or both?


Duro Says:

Lulu, you’re a nice girl. Sorry for rooting for Andy this time, but number one is on the table ;-)!


pigirl1 Says:

Murray pls pls pls keep on momentum!


Miki Says:

I think I just became an Andy supporter. The guy was considering retiring from the match even before it started, and look at him now. I mean, no matter how this ends, he showed the heart and courage to fight with the clay monster, and fight hard. It would be too sad to see Andy stagnating and not winning a slam and being called the choker of the decade. I hope he soon has some Nole-like breakthrough. Anyway, Sean Randall was wrong :)


Lulu Iberica Says:

Yeah, Duro, I think Nole and Andy are in some kind of cahoots to get #1 and #2! They’re ready to do away with Fedal.


Kimberly Says:

just terrible, lulu nadal’s ball seems to be missing pop. i cant believe he is going to lose this match but thats what it looks like. I am turning this off, i think i just cant bear it.


pigirl1 Says:

andy keep going! rafa can come back from 1-4 and win it 6-4 if u not careful!


Ike Says:

Lulu Iberica
were u living in Siberia or Antarctica before 2007?
LOL!!!!!
even though Rafa has lot of tennis mileage on him, he still has 4-5 good years ahead of him, so he would have to win 8/20 GS, possible…….


Ike Says:

ok, let’s refocus Andy!


dari Says:

Well that’s why they call it an insurance break.
You’re still up, Andy


pigirl1 Says:

that game was crucial…


Daniel Says:

One break back after Nadal got an unbelievable ball When 30-30


Ike Says:

Miki
welcome to the Andy’s fan’s group….
Mark my words he will win 5 GS (minimum) before he retires!


Lulu Iberica Says:

Wow, gotta give props to Andy on that shot!


pigirl1 Says:

crazy forehand pass by AM


jane Says:

Groggy, just woke up – what the!? Murray looks to be all over the Rafa serve, on clay no less! Keep up the great work Muzzzza!!!


Ike Says:

Lulu Iberica
i think only Rafa has the chance to win 17 GS, (i don’t think Roger is going to win any GS from now)…….


pigirl1 Says:

wow rafa got broken 3 times in a row?? and on clay??

nice work andy


margot Says:

OMG 5-2 the tension is awful….


Kimberly Says:

terrible, and i can’t bring myself to turn it off. Murray playing great.


jane Says:

margot! whoa, is Andy in the zone? Is Rafa off? Am going to read through comments to catch up.


Ike Says:

pigirl1
this will be the first time Andy winning a set against Rafa on clay!


skeezerweezer Says:

If Murray takes this set, there is still another set to play….just sayin…..outside of that…Murray Jekyl and Hyde? Awesome stuff. Has he broken Rafa’s will? Is that possible? Just goes to show ya how mental this game is…


pigirl1 Says:

Ike
I do believe so!

hold now andy ! aw 15-15


Ike Says:

jane

do u live Alaska something? u can’t get up this late…how could u forget match between Andy and Rafa?


pigirl1 Says:

wide rafa bh to give andy 30-15 lead…is rafa feeling the pressure!

this match getting tastier by the second =]


Ike Says:

two sets needed almost 2 hr. 20 minutes!


margot Says:

Andy takes a set off Rafa on clay!! Wowee!!


dari Says:

One hour 12 for a 6-2 set. Nuts!
Way to go, Andy!


Ike Says:

pigirl1
did u watch Rafa’s “dropping shoulders”? mentally he is losing it!!!


pigirl1 Says:

how can rafa only hit 3 winners in set 2 … and around 30% points won on BOTH 1st and 2nd serves


Lulu Iberica Says:

Ike, I never watched tennis at all until 2005. Lived in NYC at the time, and went to US Open more as a NYC experience than as a tennis fan. I could’ve chosen the men’s or women’s final, and can you believe I chose WOMEN’S! I wanted to see a Williams sister. So, I saw Kim Clijsters destroy Mary Pierce, and watched Federer – Agassi on tv the next day! I thought Fed was great, but was sad for Agassi, as I knew OF him from my younger years. In the US, AO and FO are not exactly given much coverage, and I don’t know how I missed Wimb 2006, but I don’t remember it.


jane Says:

Way to go Murray! The announcers say the temp is dropping in the shade. Nadal didn’t even TRY to get to that drop shot. He seems uncomfortable.


pigirl1 Says:

Ike
wow rafa losing it mentally??can’t believe it


puckbandit Says:

Hey folks! awesome match! I was supposed to be out of the house an hour ago and I can’t leave the tv set.

Regardless of what happens in third, Murray has to happy with the return of his form.

But he shouldn’t accept winning a set as victory. Hope he keeps it up, but Nadal will come out on fire, for sure.


Daniel Says:

Murray broke Nadal 3 straigh He can let Nadal breath like this.


pigirl1 Says:

andy’s errors start to creep in oh no!

don’t get too relaxed…it is only half the battle! If you lose this every newspaper tomorrow will just proclaim how rafa is true king of clay and invincible…nothing will be said about your efforts lol

go andy!


Lulu Iberica Says:

Oooohhh… I hope Madal comes out now!


Kimberly Says:

allright the heat better win their playoff game to make up for this. you were right colin.


puckbandit Says:

Not good start for Andy in first game. Needs to up first serve % in third.


jane Says:

Ike, lol, west coast of Canada. It’s Saturday. It’s only 9:00 am. Was up last night watching hockey and then some celebrating and a movie, so it was late night. I should’ve calculated better!


Daniel Says:

Murray cannlose the match with this weak smash 30-15 and nos 15-30


dari Says:

Shit ain’t over folks
C’Mon McMurray


puckbandit Says:

How ’bout those Canucks, Jane?

Really want them to knock out Hawks.


pigirl1 Says:

daniel – this match is definitely murray’s to lose…

now double break point down…


Ike Says:

Lulu Iberica
i remember Fed beating Agassi in the 2005 Final..Agassi retired next year…

Anyways, never ever choose Women’s finals over men’s…nothing against woment’s tennis, but men’s tennis is just lot better….plus in the GS u are watching 5 sets, i don’t have exact stats but i guess over 75% women’s finals are total blow-out matches…..


jane Says:

Nice point at the new from Murray


Lulu Iberica Says:

Still watching, Kimberly? Rafa’s back! Commentators apologizing for Murray’s language — good sign for Rafa fans!


jane Says:

So do I puckbandit, so do I! Their defense has been great; Toews didn’t even have a shot on goal last night. But the Hawks poured it on late in the 3rd period – nerve wracking finish. I have tickets if there is a game five here.

Murray can break back, he’ll know that, as he’s broken lots of times, but he has to stay focused, don’t lose focus with ump Murray.


pigirl1 Says:

andy how could you hvae missed that easy FH?!!!


Ike Says:

jane

u r Vancouver Canuck’s fan, right? well u got the best record in NHL, but our Boston Bruins are going to beat u!


margot Says:

Oh no, not a bagel please. Andy doesn’t deserve this.


skeezerweezer Says:

Rafa has for now restored order on his Kingdom of Dirt. Nice to see Murray has found his game again…


pigirl1 Says:

is andy having some sort of injury?


dari Says:

Whoops, Andy.
Lulu, that was the year I got federized-2005.
And no one needs to tell you now, but yes always choose the men’s final. Quality does not need to be an issue, its simple math of with the women you get max three sets and with men, a minimum three!
Haha tennis channel played soccer for a moment just now. Someone in the control room catching up on another sport.


puckbandit Says:

pigirl1,

disagree, this match has always been Rafa’s to lose. Despite split sets or his lapse in second.

Being pushed by Murray will actually help Nadal as he moves into the season.


jane Says:

no way Ike – we’re getting the cup! ; )

Murray get that elbow grease on and come back!


puckbandit Says:

Murray’s forehand has been good his match, but I still believe if he had fixed the flaw in his forehand he would have at least one slam with many more to come.

The flaw: he hits it falling away without enough forward motion. He’s good enough and strong enough to still get to number 4 and be a great player, but he is wasting what could be a great weapon.


pigirl1 Says:

puckbandit

imo murray can win it if he plays the way like he does in set 2…i just think rafa is not playing his best at the dirt this year…gasquet could and should have won a set againist him few days ago

rest assured, rafa will find his best form soon enough


Miki Says:

Thanks Ike, my fav is Novak, and I am a Serb, but I’m adding Andy as my second fav. But you know, I was never one sided in liking players, I am gonna route for Novak whenever he plays, but I like them all, Fed, Rafa, Novak, Andy, Delpo, and few other players that can put up a fight and a show. Never really disliked any of them apart for Rafa few years back, somehow I didn’t like him, and suddenly I started liking him in 2008, and I remember how I wanted him to beat Fed in the Wimby finals.

Rafa is now a break up, but if he loses this somehow, does that mean he’s getting some kind of “losing a won match syndrom”? I was really surprised this year with IW and Miami, I wanted Novak to win both but the overall impression is that it was unusual, that didn’t look like Rafa in the mental department, or is it just that Novak is stronger now?


puckbandit Says:

Ike,

Don’t think Boston will make it out of the East, sorry.


puckbandit Says:

pigirl,

I hope not, I’m a Murray fan. Was just being honest.


margot Says:

All over now :(


jane Says:

Interesting thought on Murray’s forehand – but nice to see him really hitting it today. He needs to keep it inside the line, obviously, but I like that he’s being more aggressive with it. Still think when he can he should come in more. Like in that last point for deuce. He definitely has the skill / talent.


WTF Says:

Wait.. so an injured Murray won a 6-2 set off Nadal? How?

And why did Novak Djokovic invent an injury excuse to skip Monte Carlo when the event is optional anyway?


pigirl1 Says:

4-0 Rafa

it is over lol, hope not a bagel andy does not deserve this


Duro Says:

And it happened to Novak three times… Hamburg, Monte Carlo and Madrid.

That’s why I keep saying that the one must just stay there. Rafa is shaky, he feels shaky, but doesn’t show it. Murray in the beating Rafa on clay learning process…

Novak absolved it even if he didn’t do it yet. He will because he knows how to. Those masters finals don’t differ much from the clay matches in the sense of the winning mentality necessary to beat Rafa on clay or where ever else.

Stay there, stay there, stay there, but he didn’t.

It will take Novak to do the job.

The only man that can do it for real.


jane Says:

Madal came out with that last shot. But lots of errors from Andy there. He really lost focus after the first break. Just went off the boil.


Daniel Says:

40-15 and he squandered the game. Nadal Finally Hot an excelent inside out forehamd winner which We didn’t saw for a long time in this match.


Daniel Says:

Murray win the set and enter Fed mode relaxes with no purpose. Now can lose 6-0.


jane Says:

Wow, bad miss by Rafa. 30 all.


goat galz Says:

That Afro doesn’t suit Murray and he’s swearing again. Where oh where is David Haye?


Ike Says:

Miki
i m a Nole fan too! Btw, do u remember Nole’s speech after Aussie Open win this year? Seemed like he was talking like King of Serbia something LOL. “My people”, etc.

Btw, until last year i hated Fed! but not anymore


puckbandit Says:

Jane,

When Murray is being aggressive he corrects a bit on his forehand and puts more weight on the shot. That combined with his placement can generate winners.

But IMHO, if he got behind the shot more, he could generate winners with power, like Soda, and hit through guys as well as around them. Just a thought.


pigirl1 Says:

rafa is just too much of a mental beast to deal with…again his mentality win him the match


Lulu Iberica Says:

What the heck, Rafa? You are the freaking bull! Don’t let him in!


Ike Says:

oh well it’s not over yet!


pigirl1 Says:

BP for Murray! and he takes it! At least he avoided a bagel


margot Says:

Phew ;)


skeezerweezer Says:

Hey I like the Jr Afro on Murray, I say grow it out a little more and put some stuff in it :)


Lulu Iberica Says:

See, even if Rafa wins, he is not looking like himself with these lapses! What was that horrendous smash, and then dumping that FH into the net for a break?!!! Could’ve had a bagel there. Daveed is licking his chops right now!


pigirl1 Says:

Ike

If Murray has the mentality to pull off the win he probably would not be a double break down in the first place…but I am still hoping for a miracle =]


dari Says:

Puck- that’s a good call on the Murray fh. Watching with a bball and tennis fan and he called Murray fh a fade-away fh, like a fade- away jumper in basketball. Just laughed at first, but yeah, see it now.


Ike Says:

Lulu Iberica
u going to USO this year?


margot Says:

No puckbandit not forehand, he sorts his serve out, he rules the world :)


pigirl1 Says:

and now AM 0-30 down…thanks to his serve =[


Lulu Iberica Says:

That’s more like it!


puckbandit Says:

Murray looks tired. You don’t see that often.


Ike Says:

dari

fade-away jumpers are great in basketball! i love them!
But, fade-away FH in tennis, aweful!!!


pigirl1 Says:

puckbandit

who wouldn’t be tired after a greulling 3-hr session against rafa on clay?


puckbandit Says:

Dari, the difference of course is that the fade-away in Bball is a god thing.

Margot, may he should correct both, and then rule the world forever!


dari Says:

Exactly, ike, especially since there’s nobody on your side of the net!


Ike Says:

puckbandit

Andy will need to work on his attitude too! LOL


skeezerweezer Says:

Murray has to be proud of his performance this tourney…hope this is a path of getting back to where he belongs, battling in the top tier. The recipe to beat Rafa on Clay is so very tough. Outhitting him can be done in spurts but never can be done over the overall course of a match, he’s that tough.


goat galz Says:

Skeezer
Afro *with* male pattern baldness.


jane Says:

Yes, I see what you mean puckbandit, re: leaning into more than falling away. A kill shot like that would make him even more formidable. And a few trips into net to exploit those wonderful hands of his. As margot says, if Murray’s first serve percentage could get more consistently up, and a stronger second serve, that would allow him to come in a little more behind that first serve. With his counter-punching abilities, a little more aggression would even it out and make him shoot for the top. I mean, he’s already there, but win those big matches/titles/slams.

p.s. skeeze, I like Andy’s mini-fro too. It’s looking good.

One more thing. Andy just needs to stay positive. After that first break, he should have laid it all out there to get the break back. Or at least try to. Tough versus Rafa on clay.

So – anyone think Ferrer can stop Nadal?


pigirl1 Says:

at least murray avoided a bagel!

well better luck next time andy…really sorry for you…if u work on either the serve or your mentality you should have won this =[


puckbandit Says:

I think Ferrer has a shot tomorrow. But he’ll need some help from Rafa in the way of spotty play to win.


goat galz Says:

Murray to David Haye: You’re fired.

ta ta


jane Says:

Congrats to Rafa and fans – he looked back to his toughest at the end there, really going for shots etc.


puckbandit Says:

Dissapointing third set, but the first two were great.


Ike Says:

well, is anyone going to watch the final tomorrow? i do root for David Ferer, but can he beat Rafa on clay? he hasn’t done that in almost 8 years!


Lulu Iberica Says:

Ike, I don’t live in New York anymore, but I am planning on going to USO this year. Due to husband’s work schedule I’m going the first week, sometime between Aug. 31 and Sept. 4.

Great match by Murray, glad he’s back. And I like the ‘fro, too.


Ike Says:

Lulu Iberica
maybe i will see you guys at USO! i m planning on the same schedule………


dari Says:

Ok, a great two sets from.Andy, glad he is playing well again! Rafa not quite himself- did not unleash the fh till very end. A glimmer of hope for daveed if he plays aggressive.
Nice match to start the day. Happy Saturday folks!


Kimberly Says:

i need a drink.

now have to watch the heat at 3:30 with immense pressure. Going to a mexican restaurant on lincoln road with both kids and friends.


skeezerweezer Says:

Congrats Lulu, K…

“anyone think Ferrer can stop Nadal?”

NOPE.

GG…they have colored can spray for that :)

Ike, fadeaway FH…u can pull off a nice topspin lob with that….


Ike Says:

so long……..


margot Says:

Congrats to Rafa and all his fans :)
But so many positives for me. Andy’s mojo is back, he’s shown he can play on clay, considering at the beginning of MC he was slumping big time and probably had zilch confidence, this was a terrific performance :)
Yes puckbandit, forehand and serve and then total world domination :) though in second set he hit more winners on forehand than Rafa..teehee


Miki Says:

Ike
Frankly, he is kind of King of Serbia, in a way that he is the best and most positive ambassador of our country. And it’s usually the athletes who show us in good spotlight. Politicians and even some crappy musicians and people from show business are just killing that little what’s left of our dignity.

Anyway, I hope this is a sign of Murray playing like he can. He showed today what he is capable of. And I like the hair :)

Regarding his forehand, I seems to me (and I’m no tennis expert by any means) that he isn’t preparing and adjusting his body well enough for it, and his swing is kinda odd, and I am talking about cross court FH, I think the inside-out worked just fine and was efficient, don’t you think?


Lulu Iberica Says:

Thanks for congrats, Jane. I think your guy will have excellent results this clay court season. I’ll be watching the final tomorrow, and I think David has a chance, but not if Rafa is 100% on.


NELTA Says:

You have to win the 1st set to have a chance at beating Nadal on clay. You can probably count on 1 hand the # of times Nadal has lost on clay in his career after losing the 1st set. The only one I can think of off the top of my head is Hamburg 2007. Maybe it happened when he was a teenager in 2004-2005.


NELTA Says:

On my previous post please subsitute “after losing the 1st set” with “after winning the 1st set”


Lulu Iberica Says:

Thanks, Skeezer, Margot.

Ike, that would be great if we ran into each other!

Re: Murray’s confidence, I think that David Haye guy probably actually helped. I know Muzz’s attitude dipped at the end, but it’s hard to reform overnight, especially when facing Nadal in a clay tournament he has won 6 freaking times in a row! Murray did great to be competitive 1st set, then come back even better and win the 2nd!

I do not like these 2nd set lapses Rafa’s been having. He got away with it against Muzz here, but I don’t think he would’ve with Djoko, and even Ferrer might be able to exploit such a dip. Ferrer may not be as powerful as Rafa, but he is even more of a scrapper.


Kimberly Says:

lulu, despite my temper tantrum in the second i am going to follow my own advice to gannu yesterday and appreciate that Rafa is still in the tournament and I can continue to watch him. And no, I never turned the match off.

I thought Murray played very well and it caught Rafa off guard. HOWEVER

Did it look like the surface was so slow that neither player was really penetrating the court or was that just me? I missed the first set (was out playing tennis myself). Maybe in the third Rafas shots were but it looked like neither player could really hit through the court and we aren’t talking about two weaklings. Anyone else notice that.

Meanwhile my forehand was crap today but saved by consistent backhand and big serves. In case anybody cares.


margot Says:

Lulu Iberica, apparently Andy had a cortisone injection in his elbow b4 the match and this wore off in the third, hence trainer called for and dip in his form perhaps. Hope he hasn’t made it worse :(


dari Says:

Noticed it more on Rafa, actually, Kimberly, but yes for sure. Many shots that he would have put away seemed to get held up in the court. Andy was winning a lot of his with angle and was somehow hitting deeper than rafa-3rd set at least.
I noticed this one series of fh’s by Rafa in the third set
he just kept pounding it every which way, putting a lot of weight and even coming over the top of the ball on Andy’s ad side of the court and it still wasnt enough.
It’s rained out here, was supposed to play, but instead people.coming over for the bball. Im not a nba fan, but will cheer your heat, Kimberly – how can you not like d-wade!


dari Says:

That first sentence should say 2nd set!


Kimberly Says:

D Wade is Colin05′s favorite player. He is taking a nap and then I am heading down to Rosa Mexicana!

the barcelona draw is out for any of those intersted.


andrea Says:

not surprising to see nadal in another clay court final. glad to have ferrer on the other side of the net. while i don’t have high hopes for him, he’s a clay court grinder and one of the few that has the energy to run after rafa’s balls. be nice to have an upset to start the clay season for a change.

have not see murray/rafa match but sounds good after reading all the posts here.

yes sean’s fed post is a bit scathing, bur roger has had to finesse his words over the years. when he won the USO against novak in straight sets he said that the only ranking number that mattered was #1. then, when he became #2, he said that “being #1 or #2 didn’t really matter – they were almost the same. now that he’s #3 he alludes to top 5 being a good place.

so, he is in his own way acknowledging his decline in whispers and snippets, but he’ll never sit in a presser and say ‘yes, i’m not as fast anymore’, or ‘just can’t get hit those forehands like i used to.’

to win another slam, i agree with grendel – the gods will need to smile on him with draws and fortune.


Kimberly Says:

allright, i am off, wish the Heat luck!

A shout out to contador, a massive Madal snarl on the atp site photo.


Kimmi Says:

congrats to andy, though he lost it was a great performance. when was the last time rafa lost 6-2 set on clay?

I think Novak can beat rafa now..somebody with that mental toughness to stay with him. nole has done that this year..twice!!

Hope nole watch this match today. I cant wait, hope they meet again soon.


Kimmi Says:

ha-ha now that murray is starting to play rafa on clay..watch out how the H2H becoming even more lopsided:)

that is how nole and federer benefited from it..


grendel Says:

Nadal tanked a bit towards end of 2nd set. He was definitely flustered. But he was also saving energy. Very purposeful at beginning of 2nd set – you could see almost instantly it was over for Murray, for whatever reason – elbow, mental fatigue, whatever. But Murray was dominating Nadal in the 2nd set, actually looked more resourceful, so hopefully he can build on that. As for the serve, forget it. It’s always been potentially a great serve, right from when he near fainted in Queens against Johansson. Then you thouhgt – just a matter of time before he becomes one of the great servers. Have been waiting ever since. Too late to change now. But every now and then the serve clicks – he’d better hope it does so in a slam final. Murray’s a true enigma, he’s got the weapons alright – more talent than Nadal, for instance. But.


grendel Says:

re above – I meant Nadal was very purposeful at beginning of 3rd set, not 2nd obviously. Alzheimers. Pity Murray folded. Would have been interesting to see how Nadal would have responded to someone who refused to go away. Of course, if Murray was injured, not his fault. But to me, he looked like he was taking a breather at beginning of 3rd – quite fatal. That was the time to hammer home his advantage. And one dreadfully inept smash.


jane Says:

margot, agree it’s a kind of small victory for andy murray; he not only got a few wins and assured his clay (and general abilities), but he also took a set off Rafa on clay! Good on him; definitely something for him to build on. Keep the faith ~ go Muzza! :)


Skeezerweezer Says:

jane & margot,

Andy has had a great transition here, and as grendel mentioned so Nostradamas like in an earlier topic, the change came from within himself. Whatever path he is on, let’s hope his next coach adds to his path. It’s clear Andy has a fragile mind when it comes to applying it to his play. Hopefully someone will fortify it with attitude and confidence, and turn the whining into positive energy that fuels his talented game. C’mon Andy :)


margot Says:

grendel: if Nole and Rafa can improve their volleying I don’t see why Andy can’t improve his serve, and forehand come to that. Only last year you quoted Rusedski as saying, in fact very little was needed to make it even more accurate. Some tweaking? I think you believe that Andy is too stubborn to change but hey, never is a long time.
yes skeeze very cheered but note he needs more steel at crucial times. should’ve, could’ve would’ve won that first set. More input David H please ;)


grendel Says:

what’s “very little?” in terms of the movement Murray makes when he serves, that might be a “lot” to change. I don’t have the knowledge to answer that one. But Rusedski did say that Murray would have to sacrfice some speed , when eliminatingthe movement, to gain consistency. He might be very reluctant to do that, especially when he knows that sometimes, the serve behaves itself very well. Difficult to abandon something which sometimes is a potent weapon.


NumeroUno Says:

I think it’s a problem in his mind. He doesn’t seem strong on court. Maybe if he could win a big tournament he’ll be much more confident.

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