Nadal v Djokovic in 2011 Wimbledon Final, Who’ll Win?
by Sean Randall | July 2nd, 2011, 11:59 am
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It’s the final we thought we’d get at the French Open last month, but we have it now. Rafael Nadal and Novak Djokovic will resume the best rivalry in tennis for a 28th time Sunday on the hallowed lawns Wimbledon.

Nadal has the big edge in experience playing the Wimbledon final. The Spaniard is into his fifth consecutive final and he comes in having 20 straight matches at the biggest grass tournament in the world. The last player to beat Nadal at Wimbledon was back in 2007 when Roger Federer needs five sets to turn away the lefty – since 2005, Federer is the only player to beat Nadal at Wimbledon!

This fortnight, despite some continued injury issues, Nadal has been playing efficient, tactful tennis, and he appears to be peaking at just the right time.

Yesterday, after a rocky start against British favorite Andy Murray, Nadal found his gear crushing Murray in the final three sets for a comfortable win. Murray, who once again shriveled up on the biggest stage, helped the cause with a second set cliff, but still the way Nadal closed the match has build some significant positive momentum going into the final. And Rafa will need it.

Djokovic is coming off one of his biggest career victories defeating JW Tsonga in the semifinals. The win itself wasn’t the achievement, it was the end result. Djokovic’s victory assured the Serb of the No. 1 ranking come Monday, fulfilling a childhood dream of officially becoming the best player in tennis.

Through the event, Djokovic, like Nadal, probably hasn’t been at the level we saw during the clay stretch or even earlier in the season on the hard courts. Djokovic was still good enough, steady enough to reach his first Wimbledon final.

In their meetings, Nadal holds the big leads 16-11. But, and it’s a big but, Djokovic has won the last four meetings, all this year and all in big-time finals.

“His mental position over me today is probably a little bit better because he won the last four finals against me,” Nadal said. “And that’s what it is. I’m here. I’m try my best. I think I’m playing well, really well. We will see what’s going on on Sunday, no? I will try my best. I have to play aggressive. I have to play with intensity, with rhythm. That’s what I gonna try.”

Nadal, however, will be buoyed by the fact that in Grand Slam matches and best-of-five encounters, he’s never lost to Djokovic leading 6-0. And that’s massive.

It’s one thing to beat Nadal in Madrid or Indian Wells, it’s another to beat him in a Slam. Nadal knows it. Novak knows it.

“It is quite different playing Nadal in a Grand Slam because it’s a best of five,” said Djokovic. “So physically we all know that he’s superior and he’s the strongest player around, you know, most prepared. So I’m ready for long rallies, you know, long points. You know, I need to be physically ready, which I am. I feel fit in this moment, and mentally obviously motivated. It’s my first Wimbledon final. The four times I won against him this year can probably help me in some ways mentally prior to this match.”

At the start of the tournament I picked this final and I chose Nadal to beat Djokovic. And I think that’s how it still plays out.

Novak certainly can harm Nadal, there is no question. And Nadal really isn’t at his best right now, so there is some vulnerability. I do think, however, that Djokovic has to be feeling a little bit of relief after finally attaining the No. 1 ranking. That has to factor in.

For me, I think Novak will let down every so slightly leaving the door open for Rafa and that’s the difference. As we know with Nadal, there’s no give, no second gear. He may have lost his top ranking but I’d bet he’d gladly trade those four losses to Djokovic in the Masters tournament finals for a third Wimbledon title and 11th career Slam, and I think Sunday Nadal wins it in four sets.

Djokovic has been the best player this season and he certainly has the skillset needed to beat Nadal, as he’s proven all year. But I just can’t see him beating Rafa for a fifth straight time, and all in finals. Rafa won’t allow it.

Vamos.


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487 Comments for Nadal v Djokovic in 2011 Wimbledon Final, Who’ll Win?

SheepleBuster Says:

Written by Nadal’s biggest fan in the world.

Fixed!


Dan Martin Says:

I think Rafa wins unless Djokovic can match his mental toughness. If he can, we might have a contender for greatest match ever.

Moving outside of the mental side of things, I think Nole’s return game and mobility can trouble Rafa, but I think Rafa is more at home on grass than Nole.


jane Says:

Rafa is one of the toughest tennis players to beat in grand slams; even Federer, the most successful grand slam player thus far, has just 2 wins in 9 slam matches versus Rafa. Add to that the facts that Rafa has two Wimbledon titles, five Wimbledon finals (counting tomorrow), and a Queens title, whereas this is Nole’s first Wimbledon final, well, Rafa is far-and-away the favorite in my opinion. I also think Sean is right that Nole jumped a big hurdle just getting to number one so he may (?) have a mental letdown. It was obvious that he was tight closing it out versus Tsonga as he knew what the win meant and at the FO he had missed a chance already. This was a lifelong goal. It might be similar to the USO where, after three tries, Nole finally beat Fed in five topsy-turvy sets to reach his first slam final in over two years, although it was mostly down to Rafa playing outrageously well. I give Nole a chance tomorrow, maybe 35-65, or at most 40-60. Would love to see him win, but Rafa has the experience, and he will fight very hard to keep this title.


V Blacklabel Says:

Sean, I’m with you. Here are my predictions for the men’s final and what I thought going into today’s ladies’ final: http://www.blacklabeltennis.com/2011/07/showdown-at-sw19-wimbledon-finals.html


kriket Says:

Novak has the game to beat Nadal, he’s proven it time and again this year. With every next win easier than the previous. If he could get that motivation and confidence tomorrow, he’d beat Nadal easy, and I don’t care how many titles/finals Nadal has under his belt. That’s just history. We’ll just have to see, I’ll say it again, but it’s Nole’s match to win or lose. If he plays his best, Nadal’s history.


billyboy512 Says:

Though a self-admitted nadal fan, I have not seen him play with any of his trademark “snap” all season..until yesterday. “Peaking at the right time” is correct.

Noval will have lost the psychological edge because he has accomplished his goal-a number one ranking. He will be in “downhill” mode while also succumbing to the nerves associated with the grandeur of the occasion.


Kimmi Says:

Why rafa wins, djokovic knows how to play rafa now. he is going to play a different game in the final.

Go Nole. time for you to win wimbledon.


valentin Says:

Djokovic will win in 3 sets and Nadal will be confused and neve number 1 again, now djokovic will play relaxed after becoming the world number 1. Djokovic has nothing to prove to anyone anymore and most important he does not have to prove anything for himself….on sunday it will be tennis on a new level….


Ben Wade Says:

Common fedtards….lets all gang up together and cheer for Nole.


van orten Says:

we all knowwwww that nole would have crushed nadal at RG !!!! fed saved his butt,,,


Dory Says:

Of course Djokovic is capable of winning but from the form they both have displayed THIS week, I think Rafa is going to win this one. I don’t like keeping my hopes up so I am not utterly disappointed. If Djoker wins, that would be the icing on the cake of the No.1 ranking.


van orten Says:

lets hope for a good final and that nole will maintain pushing nadal. if djoker plays on a normal good level all match long no chance that nadal will find answers to it..as seen all year when facing djoker..djoker and nadal playing at its best :?: djoker wins in 3 !!!

wow i love my optimism hahaha


Ben Pronin Says:

Sean, if Nadal hasn’t been playing his best, then what exactly is his best? 7 errors over 4 set coupled with 37 winners isn’t his best? This is grass, where the errors are usually much higher for everyone. And Nadal was smacking the crap out of his forehand yesterday, still only had 7 errors. 4 in the set that he lost. He’s definitely playing his best right now.

That said, I hope Djokovic wins.


van orten Says:

wade of course we all will cheer for noleeee…he is an amazing player and will totally deserve winning tomorrow if he plays like the last 4 times they met…rafa didnt even play badly he played very very good but still couldnt find a way to win…
that impressed a lot of tennis fans all over the world that djoker didnt give a sh about all the mental games displayed throughout their matches..
i expect lots of moooonballllinngggggg


Wheeler Says:

Djokovic will win. He’s the Harry Potter. Federer was Dumbledore and Nadal is Voldemort.


WTF Says:

I think Nole has improved enough this year to beat Nadal on the big stage. If he can do it on hard, and on clay, he can also do it on grass. I mean he did beat Rafa on his best surface. No one’s had a legit win against Rafa at Rome before (JC Ferrero had a first round win against him when he had an injury — the fact that it was JC Ferrero who did the deed should have clued you in on the injury) but Nole did it in a final.

That said, Nole does have more to prove I think, even though he just reached #1. I’m pretty sure that if he could choose between being #1 or winning Wimbledon but not both, he’d rather take the title and stay #2. Childhood dream or not.

If Nole plays as good as he played against Tsonga, and Ndal plays as good as he played against Murray, I think Nadal has the edge.

Nole has a much better serve, and his backhand is more than capable of handling Nadal’s forhand. In rallies they’re about even. In Nadal’s favor I expect that he will hit fewer UEs than Nole.

I think Nadal is favorite 60-40, but one can’t be sure just how big a presence inside Rafa’s head is those 4 defeats to Nole this season. Has anyone ever got inside Rafa’s head before? If anyone has at all, it has to be Nole.

If Nadal wins, it will be a huge sigh of relief for him, and I would expect the waterworks to be turned on. He’s at the stage of his career where he realizes how important each title is and how it can all end at any moment. With intensified competition and the possibility of an injury cutting your career short, you never know when it might be your last win. He will cherish every moment he gets to play against the best.

A win would also make the four losses irrelevant. Nole can enjoy his 1000s, but if he can’t beat Rafa in a slam what good is he?

Both players are extremely motivated here for different reasons. It should be a classic.


JD Says:

Bought the tickets to watch the match live in a 3D cinema. Hope it will not disappoint me…win or lose, want to have a great match..

Vamos…


marrisv Says:

This match has interesting story lines. – novak with the pressure of winning the title he dreamt as a kid. Rafa has to deal with the mental demons from the four losses to Novak.

It is going to come down to who mentally handles it better.

Can’t wait for the match to begin although I hope it is of high quality, finals rarely are and especially when there is lots at stake.


sheila Says:

i think this match is important 4both players. nadal needs 2win 2 maintain his dominance in majors & also not lose 2djokovic 5x in a row. djokovic needs 2win 2 prove he can win nadal on the big stage. i think physically, djokovic has a better game, but mentally nadal is unbeatable. i only hope djokovic doesnt allow nerves 2get in 2 his game & can pull out the upset. thus far, no one has been able 2beat nadal in a major. as for roger im still boohooing over his walkabout 2 sets 2 love lead going south. hoping djokovic pulls this 1 out. whats w/murray. had a gr8 1st set & then crumbled. how can he ever win a major if he cant get by nadal. 4 that matter how can any other of these so called up & comers ever win a major if they cant beat nadal in them. federer has nothing 2 prove, imho, his record speaks 4itself & hes almost 30. doesnt have the hunger these supposedly younger players have.


Thangs Says:

I am holding my breath…its 50-50. Vamos!


Kimmi Says:

van – “i expect lots of moooonballllinngggggg”

LMAO


van orten Says:

kimmy i really do and would be very dissapointed if i dont see any


grendel Says:

“A win would also make the four losses irrelevant. Nole can enjoy his 1000s, but if he can’t beat Rafa in a slam what good is he?” Non sequitur, I think. Two of the wins came on hard. So let us wait and see what happens in the US Open.(Djokovic has moved way on since last year). The other two were on clay. Unfortunately, Djokovic didn’t meet Nadal in RG final. He was the favourite, and Nadal can count his lucky stars in not having to play him.

As for Nadal winning tomorrow, it’s a different surface, isn’t it, one on which Nadal has become extremely comfortable and on which Djokovic still seems somewhat ill at ease. So a Nadal victory will confirm Nadal’s superiority on grass, but it leaves the merit of Djokovic’s earlier victories unblemished and certainly retaining their significance.

The rivalry between Nadal and Djokovic is very interesting, and somehow more real than the intergenerational Fedal business. It is only just hotting up. As I see it, if Nadal wins tomorrow, Djokovic’s position remains untouched. On the other hand, if Djokovic wins, he goes shooting ahead. However, much the same is true of the US Open, only the other way round. Djokovic has to either win or someone not called Nadal win for equality to be maintained. If Nadal wins the US open, he goes shooting ahead in the rivalry.


gordon Says:

Here in Canada we will not have live transmition of Wimbledon finals! Instead we are getting to watch ICE fishing on lake Simcoe recorder last winter! What an arrogant buch of thugs who know that can do whatever they want without any consequences.


gordon Says:

If Djokovic is at his best then Nadal does not have any chances. That has been proven this year when Nadal was looking lost without any weapon to harm Djokovic. I agree whoeven win this match will take a huge mental advantage against other player. If Djokovic wins he will once for all prove that we is a better player, not this year but overal A Better Player!
If Nadal takes a wictory he will take it as a cure to heal his mental confidence and chalange Djokovic on No 1 position.


Max Dwight Says:

May most of the rallies go 20 strokes or more.
May each set go to at least 7-5.
May it go to 19-17 in the 5th.
May winner after winner be returned.
May the players take an average of 35 seconds between points
May Rafa get coaching from Uncle Toni and take 3 medical time outs
May Nole’s dad act like a clown during the match.
May this be the death of tennis as we know it.


trufan Says:

Well, as Nadal said – we will see true tennis tomorrow, since he is playing – what Sampras played was not tennis, as per him.

Yes, moonballing, unsporting and false MTOs, buttpicking, time delay before every damn serve – Ya, Sampras certainly didn’t do any of these so it must not have been tennis!!

Nole is a better player than Nadal. Even on clay now. If both play 100%, Nole wins in 3 or 4 sets.

I think Nole will play freely, now that the monkey is off his back (another one waiting in the final tomorrow!).

As for Nadal, he will run like a rabbit for 5 hours on his “broken” foot. I still couldn’t find ONE point (in the DelPO match or later) where I could see Nadal hampered by his so-called foot injury. Wow, some injury ha?

Nole, win or lose, don’t shake his hand after the match. You know its been in his butt some 150 or 200 times!!


Blah Says:

Nadal in 3 or 4 sets, though I hope im wrong.


Kathy Says:

Vamos Rafa!!! If Rafa wins Djokovic’s visit to the number 1 spot will be very short, about 5 weeks I think. Rafa will be back at number 1 in time for the USO.


Voicemale1 Says:

It’s gonna be about how the Patterns of their previous 4 matches plays out tomorrow. If anything, the surface gives the edge to Nadal. Besides getting fitter and defending better than last year, Djokovic has employed a few new Patterns this year against Nadal in how their points are played. And almost all of the Djokovic Patterns are anchored by his Backhand, particularly against Nadal. Djokovic has been using his Backhand to split the court wide open on Nadal and secure his position inside the base line in most of their rallies and forcing Nadal farther and farther back. Djokovic has been happy to either trade crosscourt with Nadal that way, or rip down the line. The problem for Djokovic is that grass keeps the ball lower than ideal for his Backhand to be at its optimum much more often, so he’ll have to hit up on that shot rather than drive through it. And hitting up on his Backhand is not the way he’s been beating Nadal all year. If he’s forced to Slice and roll the Backhand because it’s trajectory is lower, he’s never gonna force Nadal deep behind the baseline like he has been. Djokovic prefers to take that Backhand on the rise into his Wheelhouse and drive through it. On hard courts and clay he can count on those shots kicking up right into that zone on his Backhand side with regularity. He won’t get that tomorrow. Against Tsonga, Djokovic was attempting to Slice a lot more than he ever has, mostly because the ball stays lower. He’ll be faced with having to use the Backhand more defensively than he’s been using it – and that’s definitely not how he’s been beating Nadal’s brains out all year. Djokovic caught a lucky break when Federer choked and collapsed against Tsonga, because Federer would have Sliced and Sliced all day to the Djokovic Backhand with great success. Djokovic is going to lose his optimum capability on that Backhand side tomorrow by about 10-15%, so he’s going to have to make that up somewhere else. You can’t give Nadal that much of an edge on grass and expect to beat him.

Against Murray, Nadal did two things more often than he’s done in most of his matches this year, and especially at Wimbledon this year. He was hitting the Forehand flatter than he has in previous years here more often, especially to the Murray Backhand. Nadal was content to get the ball high up on the Murray Forehand, but kept it lower on the Backhand, forcing Murray to have to dig it up off the court. the other things Nadal did was camp on the baseline to Return Serve in the Deuce Court with his body slightly angled, taking the wide serve to his own Backhand on the rise himself, and doing better with that as the match went on. And even in rallies, he’s been hitting his own Backhand earlier and harder since the del Potro match. Unless Djokovic can successfully compensate for the lost effectiveness of his own Backhand because of the surface, Nadal wins, probably in 4 Sets.


Kimmi Says:

how is that possible kathy? djokovic still have room to get more points in canada and cincy. Unless you have done some numbers that you can share with us. I think he is got this number 1 for quite sometime.

Good luck to nole tomorrow!


EdgarCayce Says:

Nole knows Rafa’s game better than any armchair observers. No doubt he knows what works vs Rafa. How many predicted Djokovic would sweep Rafa not only on hc but on clay in 2011? This tournament is the most important to the Serb as he says. No reason he can’t have an answer to Rafa tomorrow.

Looking forward to the same men’s and women’s winner’s as were in Madrid :)

Kvitova and Djokovic!


Lou Says:

I agree Nadal will win. Not only because he has an error free game, if you look at the stats also in wimbledon, he is way better than nole.He has just committed 60 unforced errors.I read this and found it to be very interesting.
Djokovic/Nadal Final- What do Wimbledon Stats Indicate?
http://healthnsports4u.blogspot.com/2011/07/djokovicnadal-what-do-wimbledon-stats.html

Nadal will win, if he can carry on with his natural game.


Kimmi Says:

Exactly EdgarCayce. In madrid and rome nole did not look that great in his previous rounds, but everything changed in the final. He knew what he needed to do, anything less he would lose. that applies to tomorrow.

as you have said, djokovic knows what works and does not work for him against rafa.

Lets wait and see what happens.


EdgarCayce Says:

Until this year, Kimmi, Nole hadn’t been able to beat Rafa in how many tries on clay? Wasn’t it 9-0 Rafa? And on grass they have only met 2 times, Wimbledon semi in 2007 and a Queens final 2008. How outdated is that?! Maybe the result will be 3-0 Rafa on grass this time tomorrow, but there is at least a couple reasons to hope for the new #1. It is true Nole’s wins v Rafa have not yet come in a GS, but this match has ’1st time for everything’ written all over it! lol!

GO Nole!


funches Says:

Djokovic was fresher than Rafa at the end of their last four matches. I don’t understand how a longer match would benefit Rafa, although I agree he is more comfortable on grass than the Djoker.

Still, Djokovic should win in four. He matches up perfectly with Nadal.

By the way, props to Blake for winning the Winnetka challenger today. He’ll be the third-highest ranked American by the end of the summer.


jane Says:

Blake came so close to beating Baggy at Wimbledon: truly felt sad for him after that loss. But good that he is still keen on playing.


felix Says:

There is alwayas the first time for Nole, in 2011,like the the first time he beat nadal in the final of Indian wells ( Nole never beat Nadal in the final before ), Then The first time to beat Nadal at Clay, at Madrid ( Nole never beat Nadal in Clay before ), so, maybe this is will be the first time, Nole will beat Nadal in Grass too, Lets Hope.


Skeezerweezer Says:

“Nadal might be tipped to go beyond Federer’s 16 slams, but the man himself has his doubts.

‘Number 16? I think about the number 10. That’s what I have at home. That’s what I’m able to see when I go back home in my bedroom.Sixteen is very far away”.

Yes,it is.

Fed current GOAT until further notice.


Skeezerweezer Says:

The finals has lots of drama in it and read lots of trash talk in stuff. Can hardly wait to re visit here after the the match to see who is still around ;)


Pepe Says:

Nadal can be a great tennis player but he will never be as good as Roger Federer, Nadal has no manners, Roger does and you will never see Federer grabbing his ass like Nadal does.

Now Brad Gilbert….i can not stand him, he thinks he is Mr. know it all.


Marijane Says:

Novak will win. He is super perfect, super man at now.He has no weakness at all. Just in 3, the game is over. It is very predictable.


JF Says:

yea yea yea..we’ll see


Queen Mirka3 Says:

I think, Novak Djokovic will win it in 3 straight sets. However, it will be sooooooo great if Rafael Nadal managed to win it. But that’s wishful thinking at the moment. Djokovic clearly has the upper hand in their ties at the moment. But if Nadal plays his best — he has been nowhere near his best this year– then no one can beat Rafael Nadal.

Anyway despite being a Rafa fan, I fully appreciate Djokovic’s talent and game. Unlike Federina, Djokovic is a REAL great tennis players like Rafael Nadal. It could turn out to be the greatest match in the history of tennis.


WTF Says:

grendel:

“As for Nadal winning tomorrow, it’s a different surface, isn’t it, one on which Nadal has become extremely comfortable and on which Djokovic still seems somewhat ill at ease. So a Nadal victory will confirm Nadal’s superiority on grass, but it leaves the merit of Djokovic’s earlier victories unblemished and certainly retaining their significance.”

Grass is somewhere in between those surfaces. Nadal’s last two slams to complete his set was the hardcourts. Something about the hard stuff bouncing low or not being kind to his weak knees. Clay is obviously his best surface. If Nole can beat Nadal on clay and hard, there’s no reason he can’t do it on grass as well since it’s not extremely different to the other surfaces. If he can’t do it at Wimbledon, I think it DOES make the smaller losses irrelevant because it would mean he can’t do it on the big stage.

And I don’t buy that Nole was going to be favorite to win the French open or that Federer did him a big favor in taking him out. Only with some people was Nole the favorite. Nadal has been beaten on clay in smaller events before (e.g. Federer in Hamburg and Madrid) and gone on to get his revenge at the French Open. When it’s a best of five set match, he raises to a different level not seen in an ATP1000 tournament. The intensity and will to win is completely different. It’s like Serena Williams in a slam after losing in leadup events.

“Unfortunately, Djokovic didn’t meet Nadal in RG final. He was the favourite, and Nadal can count his lucky stars in not having to play him.”

Only one guy has beaten Nadal in a best of five on clay, and he was a 5 time champion. I just don’t see Nole beating him there. Until it happens, you can’t pick against the guy who comfortably won 5 French Opens. Just last year he won all 3 clay masters (never been done before in the same year) and then won the French without dropping a set. He’s not a worse player than he was last year. If he ran into Nole in the final, he would have played better than he did against Nole at Madrid and Rome. He saves his best for the slams, and that’s why he has 10 of them at 25.

If anything, I think Nadal laments the fact that he couldn’t meet Djokovic, because he has more to prove against Djokovic this year than he does against Federer and sees it as a missed opportunity to vindicate himself after four losses. Novak has never beaten him in best of five on any surface.

Nadal is a better player than Federer on clay, and if Nole couldn’t beat Federer, I just don’t see how he could have beat Nadal.

That said, I think he has a good chance of doing so at Wimbledon. The first set is key. Nadal has only lost once when winning the first set at a GS (to David Ferrer at the US Open). He has won more than 100. That’s a good record.


WTF Says:

“So a Nadal victory will confirm Nadal’s superiority on grass, but it leaves the merit of Djokovic’s earlier victories unblemished and certainly retaining their significance.”

It would leave Djokovic’s four ATP1000 victories significant I’ll concede but only for their next encounters in best of three set matches. If Nadal were to beat Djokovic at the Wimbledon final, then suppose they meet again at the US Open final, will people be giving the edge to Djokovic because he won four times over Nadal this year at the ATP1000 finals, or will they give the edge to Nadal because he beat him in the last two GS finals they played?

In that scenario I think the GS results would be a lot more significant, especially if they go five sets. It would mean that you haven’t won yet when you lead 2-0 or 2-1 in sets and you haven’t yet proven you can beat the guy at the biggest stage.


johnnybarker111 Says:

Nadal has played terribly compared to other competitions that he has played in!
Djokovic, it’s there for the takin’!


Kathy Says:

Kimmi Says:

how is that possible kathy? djokovic still have room to get more points in canada and cincy. Unless you have done some numbers that you can share with us. I think he is got this number 1 for quite sometime.[QUOTE]

On the 8th. August Nadal can count 500 points from Tokyo, which will put him back in the number one position. This of course is dependent upon him winning the Wimbledon final. So VAMOS RAFA.


van orten Says:

federer was always more comfortable than nadal on grass…that didnt prevent him from losing to him in 2008…

so nadal is more comfortable than djoker on grass-..

djoker has def. a shot to win this though


margot Says:

jane, sar, stu, anna and all Nole fans. Good luck today, Rafa doesn’t need my luck!
Stay calm, stay focused and here’s hoping for a cracker!


Skeezerweezer Says:

Congrats to the Bryans, best doubles team ever, and there 11th Slam. Rafa has to chase them too? Impossible.


scoreboard66 Says:

Doubles are in a different category, so no, Rafa does not have to chase the Bryans. That would be similar to the comparisons that are being made with regard to the WTA top players achieving No. 1 status without winning a slam. I think WTA players cannot, or should not, be compared to ATP, viz., women against men? Not likely.


Wheeler Says:

Harry Potter (Nole) will kill Voldemort (Nadal) tonight because Dumbledore (Federer) is dead.


Skeezerweezer Says:

@sb66

It was a little sarcastic humor there, no serious meaning intent ;). Hope it is a completive match today.


scoreboard66 Says:

Skeezerweezer, no offense taken.


Dory Says:

IT’S TIME!!!!!!!!!!! GO NOOOOLLEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am so excited I will be glued to the TV. :) Can’t comment here during the match.


Kimmi Says:

lets go nole


Kimmi Says:

fh down the line is clicking


Daniel Says:

Wow, 2 winners From Nadal on the forehand down the limes in the running. He is in killer mode!


Daniel Says:

Yeah, great Start Djoko holding the Nadal assault. Nos go
on and pressure His serve.


van orten Says:

bring it on noleee!!!


Kimmi Says:

nadal is really on killer mode. c’mon nole


van orten Says:

some easy service points would help now


Kimmi Says:

nadal holding easily at the mo.


van orten Says:

this is intense ..nadal wont go away with a big big fight !!!


Kimmi Says:

wow 2 big serves to close out the game


Aravind Says:

Both men are playing a high game already….Nadal looking slightly better, but both holding serves so far without alarms..


Aravind Says:

Both men going down the line already often.. This is the difference between the Murray and Djokovic matchup for Nadal. Djokovic more adept at going down the line… Murray gets more free points on his first serve, but consequently becomes highly dependent on them in close points.


Daniel Says:

Voocemale1 was right, Nadal os returning inside the court in Te deuce side. In the adv side He is way back. And He os hitting His backhand the best I have ever seen km hard, Clay and grass. flat and not conceeding the baseline. Of course, He misses some From that wing under Djoko’s pressure.

But I don’t ser Djoko having any problem with His backhand so far. He os really confortable, on Clay Nadal gás the spin to push the ball up and cause some disconfort.

Nadal’s serve is key in this match. If he keeps it up it’s going to be hard to break. I expect 2 tiebreaks today.


Aravind Says:

Nadal serving at 87% first serves!!!! No wonder he is looking so scary in his service games.. Djokovic at 62% early in the match..


van orten Says:

what a bad drop shot here from nole…doesnt need fed tactics he can just go for the rally thats nice to see


Daniel Says:

Djoko made a silly mistake. He could have forces the first deuce game


Aravind Says:

Djokovic holds on to lead 5-4. I think he has won the last 4 sets against Nadal by breaking serve. So far, Nadal playing amazing, especially serving incredible.. Djokovic keeping at neutral, but importantly has not conceded a break yet..


Daniel Says:

First set is Very important, we have to remember Nadal lost Last 6 sets they played.


Maso Says:

Tight game so far, Nadal had the advantage in the beginning but it’s pretty even now. 90% 1st serves for Nadal is pretty crazy but Novak is a bit more successful on his first than Rafa. Should be interesting if Novak can keep up this level of play.


Aravind Says:

I don’t see voicemale’s patterns in this match.. In neutral rallies, Djokovic is taking most of his BHs pretty high near the shoulder.. Nadal is serving incredibly well so far though.. Important point at 30–30..


Maso Says:

Set point for Nole.


Kimmi Says:

set point


kriket Says:

Novak predictably pressing Nadal’s serve on 5-4


kriket Says:

1 down 2 to go


Maso Says:

1st set Novak!!!!


van orten Says:

anyone still saying he cant play on grass..???


Kimmi Says:

SET..Again breaking rafa to get the set..
go nole!!


Dory Says:

YES!!!!!!!!!!! IT’S GOING EXACTLY ACCORDING TO THE 4 MASTERS FINALS!!!!!!!!!


Ike Says:

Yes you can, Nole!


Maso Says:

Now let’s hope Novak doesn’t do like Murray but we know Djoko knows how to win the big matches.


Ike Says:

Great job in the first Nole, let’s keep it up!


Dory Says:

Not score wise but Djokovic is in control of the rallies I mean.


Aravind Says:

Nole takes set one.. Yessss.. Guys, I am seeing the same pattern that has troubled Nadal in his last four losses.. He has to serve incredibly well to stand a chance… In neutral rallies, Nole looks very good.. Djokovic needs to keep up the level and not collapse like Murray did.. I have a feeling he won’t, so the second set should be interesting.. If he goes ahead, Nadal will start feeling the pinch of the last four consecutive losses..


Ike Says:

Winning first set against Rafa is always crucial. Good start Nole.


tfouto Says:

Nice! Djoko isnt kidding ladies and gentleman. His confidence only can grow…


blah Says:

OOOOOooo let’s go five!


Daniel Says:

OMG, more pressure to Nadal, lost 7 straight sets to Djoko and was broken to give the set in 5 of those last sets. Talk about a mental block…


van orten Says:

thats what he needs ???? luck otherwise simply outplayed by the djoker


Aravind Says:

Nadal gets a lucky net chord to go 0-30 on the djokovic serve.. Djokovic needs to hold here..


Kimmi Says:

0-30 not a good start


Daniel Says:

Damm, NAdal missed the backhand but the net was on his favor, now Djoko has to climb himslef out of this hole. He can’t give break points to keep his impecable service games.


Maso Says:

30-all. Come on, Novak, hang tight.


Daniel Says:

Nadal start getting anxious, missing a forehands.


van orten Says:

nadal is the one to go for the winning shot …this is federer vs nadal and djoker is nadal so far


Maso Says:

Well done, Nole, well done!


Aravind Says:

Djokovic does to Nadal what Nadal does to his opponents. Defending spectacularly, forcing Nadal to go for more than he likes, resulting in errors..


Daniel Says:

This 0-30 game he saved with NAdal making forehand error was huge, he broke Nadal last time Nadal served and Nadal missed this oportunities. Let’s see how he serve this game.


Daniel Says:

The moementum is all with Djoko.


van orten Says:

nadals sweating like in finnish sauna


Maso Says:

15-40. Djoko is dominating on Nadal’s 2nd serve and has dominated the baseline since the end of the 1st set.


Daniel Says:

I didn’t see Djoko made a single backhand error other than that drop shot. Right now that is the best stroke in tennis!


Maso Says:

BREAK, HOLY SHIT!!!!


Kimmi Says:

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!


kriket Says:

Nadal looking clueless in the exchanges. His only shots were when 1st server worked for him.

And now he’s broken again.


Daniel Says:

WTF was that point!!!
Amazing


Maso Says:

Ok, now hold serve, Nole!


tfouto Says:

Djoko is supersonic and totally antecipated Nadal point.


van orten Says:

wowwwww wowwwwww wowwwwwwwww


Aravind Says:

Shades of the last four masters finals here. Nadal having to play unbelievable here to just hang on.. His serve comes down to a humanly percentage and Djokovic takes advantage to break… Something about Djoker has changed.. He has enormous belief..


Maso Says:

Nadal’s pissed off and starting to hit like a bull. Novak’s gonna have to make some good 1st serves here.


Daniel Says:

Making NAdal hit the grounds, a methafor for what is happening in the match!


van orten Says:

what is going on with that guy …???? this is extra super dupa world class tennis


Maso Says:

Ok, Novak is on fire.


van orten Says:

match of his lifeeeee ????!!!!!


Dory Says:

Nothing going Nadal’s way. He’s totally out-rallied.


Rick Says:

This is what I called the real rivalry! Not Nadal and Federer, while Federer usually get beaten by Nadal. Also in the exhibition matches Nadal beat Federer, too!


Daniel Says:

What was this point. NAdal is crushing the ball as hard as he can and as flat as he can and Djoko makes this…?!?!?!!?!


tfouto Says:

Wowww Djoko just handles and ups Nadal best shots…


Kimmi Says:

what a BH crosscourt.. marvelous!


Maso Says:

Holy crap… if Novak can keep this up, it would be just insane…


Kimmi Says:

Rick! its djoko vs nadal..why bring fed!


Aravind Says:

Who wants to bet on a medical time out from Nadal in this match??


fed is afraid Says:

rafa should just retire.


Daniel Says:

5-0 in the last games to Djoko.

The match was the same as all the others, NAdal started better and Djoko hold the assault. when it got closing to deciding, Nadal crumbled and Djoko reach another level.
Now NAdal increase a gear and even so is not working.
This is the best match of Nole’s life, because I Nadal is palying the best I’ve seen on grass and nothing is working. He can olny hope to serve great. Who would have thought that NAdal would need his serve to save his a#*?!


van orten Says:

enjoying the bbc commentary so much …real class those 3


Kimmi Says:

the serving is great from rafa


Dory Says:

Rick, don’t bring Fed into this. His is a different style of tennis that unfortunately doesn’t match up well against Nadal’s style but somehow Roger can beat Djokovic more effectively.


van orten Says:

nadal lucky there ..he needs badly as water in the sahara really


Kimmi Says:

aaahhh what a miss…

OK, murray was dead from here!

Keep going djokovic!


van orten Says:

again !!!!! 2 aces and two lucky points saved his butt …wowwww wowww keep it up djoker


Daniel Says:

Nadal scaped another game with 2 Houdini shots.

Djoko has to keep it up his pace, but he is returning the NAdal serve more.


Aravind Says:

Nadal opens account.. Wins three of the four points with two aces and a lucky net chord.. Djokovic needs to keep the pressure on Nadal


Dory Says:

Surely if Nadal loses, Djoker’s going to be in his head once again for the coming tournaments.


van orten Says:

yeah dory because djoker is a rightyyy ..


van orten Says:

needs to finish the volley there djoker …ace now come on


Maso Says:

A few tactical errors from Djoko on Rafa’s serve and here at 15-0. Has to keep the focus!


fed is afraid Says:

i never would have believed nadal would be so dominated by another player like this, esp in his prime.


Maso Says:

Ok, Novak is playing really tight here. If he can just keep it up on the serve for this set, he’ll be up 2-0. Come on, Nole!


farley Says:

Congrats to Novak, Nadal finished.


Daniel Says:

Nadal is resorting to slices in the backhand all the time and is not working, Djoko is pounding winners.

Man, this is Huge, if Djoko wins this set as it seems, the question will not even be: Can NAdal beat Djoko again, But can he win a set?!


van orten Says:

welcome masoo ..good having you join the party


Aravind Says:

Djokovic has the unwavering belief this year.. He is mentally in so much a better place.. It started during the Australian open SF against Federer. Federer kept fighting hoping that Djoker’s level would drop.. But it never did. Every time Djoker looked to be down, he was calm and kept coming back.. When your best serves keep coming back at ur feet it has to be demoralizing for the server..


Dory Says:

What precision Nole hits with some of these shots.


RD Says:

Just wait for Nadal’s MTO at, oh, 2-5? ;-)

Seriously, Djoko is playing great, hitting all the lines. Nadal is slightly off. Missing a few by inches. UFE count is higher than usual, although that could simply be the pace. And Djoko is simply hitting outright winners. About 20 so far.


van orten Says:

best returner of the game !


Maso Says:

He’s playing a really inspired game, Novak, absolutely amazing.


van orten Says:

this is turning into a new kind of sports


van orten Says:

nadalslugging !!!


Maso Says:

5-1. Holy crap, Novak is serving for the 2nd set. I can’t believe what I’m seeing. I can’t.


st4r5 Says:

Nadal really is afraid indeed!


Kimmi Says:

break stick!! go djokovic!


Daniel Says:

Wow, wrong footing spectacular. This is just humiliating.

Comisserations Rafa fans, Welcome to FEd land in 2008 and AO 2009.

Irony, that waht Nadal was doing to Federer is happening to Nadal even worse, beracuse Djoko is the same age, FEd at leat has the age difference.


kriket Says:

Nadal is so clueless on how to play Novak. If he doesn’t score an ace or a service winner, it’s safe to bet he’ll lose that point.


tfouto Says:

Watching Djoko-Nadal is really watching cat-mouse games…


xmike Says:

nothing gives me more pleasure than seeing someone put that ugly playing butt picking freak in his place


st4r5 Says:

Nadal’s problem against Djokovic is not on his method but on his mental. He just doesn’t believe he can win.


kriket Says:

2 down 1 to go.


Dory Says:

YES! Now focus again Nole for the 3rd set! Nadal will never give up.


van orten Says:

djoker needs a mto now hahaha


Maso Says:

Ok… wow, wow, gotta keep calm. Djoko, rush through the 3rd set and take this!!!


Ike Says:

Wow, Nole won the second set in just 30 minutes!


st4r5 Says:

64 61 Djokovic, Nadal is finished!


Aravind Says:

Anybody here believes that Nadal would have beaten Djokovic in the French open final if Federer had not beaten Djokovic?

Never bet against Nadal, but surely Nadal not coming back from two sets to one against this Djoker?


margot Says:

Wow, wow, wow! Nole playing unbelievable tennis! Wrong, wrong wrong, he didn’t need any luck at all.
jane r u breathing yet :)


Maso Says:

Look at the 2nd set stats. Djoko did everything better, except that Nadal had 81% 1st serves instead of 80% for Djoko. Damn.


van orten Says:

revelation tennis here !!!


Ike Says:

I hope Nole will go for knock-out punch in the 3rd set, no mercy!


Rick Says:

It is alot easier for Federer to won his Slams. He only has to play against Nadal. Now Nadal has to deal with Nole, Murray and all these young players. While Federer only had to deal with Nadal. But already made his life a living hell.


RD Says:

Here’s predicting Nadal will slow things down and tough it out in the 3rd.


Daniel Says:

Nadal couldn’t even pressure one service game by Djoko to deuce?!?!!?
I think Djoko is decided to never lost to Nadal anymore after all he suffered during years.

Nadal can lose 9 straight sets and 5 finals in a row, that’s is THE turning point in tennis history, specially placing Federer and Nadal in the history books.


tfouto Says:

The question now is Djoko focus remain?


Aravind Says:

Rick, please don’t include Murray in this list.. He is a serial choker..


Kimmi Says:

djoko should not give rafa easy holds. c’moon


st4r5 Says:

On second thought, Nadal might have a foot problem, he is losing badly here.


van orten Says:

nadal is down two sets to one with over 80% 1st serves in ??? not possible


van orten Says:

sorry he is down 0:2 hahah man i am tripping right now


Kimmi Says:

OK..not over. i hope djokovic can keep his calm


Aravind Says:

Nadal having to hit curving DTL winners to win the first game.. Djoker needs to keep focus and keep holding.. Nadal will fold under pressure..


Daniel Says:

One thing is for sure, Nadal level won’t drop. Djoko can’t drop hjis as well, cause of right now, he is beteer.

If he keeps his serve avoing deuce games as he did all match, it’s a matter of time for him to pressure Nadal again.


tfouto Says:

Van orten Nadal have more 1st serves, but Djoko have more 1st point wons


Aravind Says:

Nadal winning only 46% of his first serves in the second set.. What an amazing stat that is!


Daniel Says:

Damm, talked to soon, 0-30 Djoko. Get out of this whole and serve!


van orten Says:

nadal can only pray for more lucky line balls like the last one to win ..go noleeee


st4r5 Says:

Wow, 0-30 on Djokovic’s serve


van orten Says:

almost an ace


van orten Says:

he needs to hold here !!!


Daniel Says:

Djoko’s time to deal with pressure.


Maso Says:

Break point for Nadal. Come on, Nole, hang on tight.


Dory Says:

A slight less intensity from Nole and Nadal pounces. Djoko must break back immediately.


Maso Says:

Definite loss of focus by Novak. Not liking this at all.


van orten Says:

totally gifted him that break ,…why man why,..he needed first serves didnt get any


Daniel Says:

Djoko inviting Nadal back to the match. The backhand mistake…


Kimmi Says:

rafa is back…

c’mon nole. feeling nervous there nole. missed easy shot.


Aravind Says:

Djoker’s level dropping.. Nadal tightening up his game..


Kimmi Says:

nole is rattled a little. easy 3-0 for rafa.


Maso Says:

Damnit, I feared this would happen. Nole has to get back in this quick. If Nadal gets a set, the momentum reversal could be pretty scary.


Daniel Says:

Djoko’s level drop, returns that he was laking he misses, and a lot on the backhand. Nadal noticed this and serve everything to that wing.

Regroup time Djoko!


Dory Says:

This is dangerous. Giving one set to Nadal can totally motivate him again to 100%.


van orten Says:

this has nothing to do with nadal playing better btw…nole just dropped dramatically level…


tfouto Says:

Djoko focus dropped and now is felling maybe a little nrevous…


st4r5 Says:

What is happening? C’mon Djokovic!


Daniel Says:

Djoko is tentative. He was never behind in this match


Maso Says:

The level of play Djoko maintained for 2 sets was just insane. It’s normal to have a little concentration drop. However, he needs to get back in this quick. You can’t let Nadal get back the psychological advantage.


skeezerweezer Says:

How can your service % be 90% and still lose a set?
Novak, thats how.


van orten Says:

the moment you stop serving 1st serves at 30:30 things turn difficult..way to go guys way to go


Maso Says:

Nadal playing a tight serve game. Djokovic making more errors than before. Going to be tough to turn this set around.


margot Says:

Oh Nole, u just can’t blink against Rafa. Didn’t u know that?


Daniel Says:

Djoko seems to lost the focus, he is not anticipating as well and seems slow all of a sudden.


tfouto Says:

So many errors…


Maso Says:

Djoko is completely out of the match right now. Seriously hope he can get back his game in the 4th. If it goes to a 5th, I’m gonna shit my pants.


Daniel Says:

Forehand is crushing him right now. You can’t win a set 6-1 over Nadal and allow him to do the same, ask Fed RG 2006.


Daniel Says:

Hold this serve and go for everything in the next one. This could be a momentum shift


Daniel Says:

Damm, Nadal is not missing anything right now.


Maso Says:

And first double fault of the match. This is really not looking good at all.


Aravind Says:

Bad double fault by Djokovic there to concede the second break.. This is a serious loss of momentum.. It was so crucial that he held that serve.. Even if he went on to lose the set..


Daniel Says:

OMG, not another Murray choke job!!!

Have to forget this set and recharge for the fourth. IF Djoko loses this match, he will be done!


van orten Says:

nadal is not playin a slice better or worse not 1% but djoker is off ..cannot deliver winners like in the 2 first sets…


Gannu Says:

Djoko has to win this match in 4 sets.. no chance that he can take the 5th set…I mean Nadal is just an animal and simply refuses to go..

this is the diff betn indian wells and wimbledon..the match starts in the 3rd set!!!

To take that final 3rd set is the most difficult task against Fed or Nadal in slams…


Kimmi Says:

c’mon djokovic! wake up!


Daniel Says:

Suddenly drama and this match will get tight untill it finishes.


Maso Says:

Ok, now I’m definitely scared. If Novak can get back his level of game, it should be a hell of a 4th set but he has to get back in there like Nadal did in the 3rd.


van orten Says:

well well..you wanna win you need to win against an always 100% nadal..nadal plays just the same tennis all day long..no ups no downs.,.djoker needs to regroup and send him home


Daniel Says:

Nadal at least saved his dignity and won a set over Djoko after 8 straight sets lost.

Now, one thing Djoko did all year was kept himself foccused. Have to start serving up agaisn and keep the return in play. He basically has to increase his level of play, fast.

The advantage is that he will serve first, which could add extra pressure in Nadal if the set go the distance.

Djoko has to hold his first service games, it’s a must.


Dory Says:

I don’t think Novak will choke per se. He just reduced his intensity after playing such high intensity tennis for 2 sets. I think he will take the 4th. Just too confident right now.


van orten Says:

he needs his serve
you dont win vs nadal without service winners


Kimmi Says:

djoko in trouble here!


Maso Says:

This is not going good at all. Nadal is playing amazing right now and Novak is not playing like he was in the first 2 sets.


RD Says:

Djoko has to win in 4. I doubt he can match Nadal’s fitness if it goes to a 5th.


Maso Says:

Ok, he held, that’s always a plus. Now he needs to get some points on the Nadal serve, change the momentum.


Kimmi Says:

PHEW! great hold!


Maso Says:

0-30. Come on, Nole, get some of that 2nd set inspiration!


Dory Says:

Okay maybe Nole took a breather in 3rd set.


Maso Says:

Damnit, Djoko, way too passive at 0-30. Come on, put some pressure on Nadal!


Maso Says:

15-40. Okay, now it’s the time to shine, Nole.


Dory Says:

Nole’s back again. Going to the net. Confidently :)


Dory Says:

Nadal’s broken!!!!!!!!!!!


Kimmi Says:

BREAK!


Maso Says:

Holy shit. Come on, Novak, hold, hold, HOLD!!!


tfouto Says:

Now hold…


Dory Says:

Now I am convinced he’s going to win.


Daniel Says:

Wow, Have you ever seen Nadal not save a single break point in a match, Nadal is 0-4 in BP saved!


kriket Says:

VAMOS TAMOS :)


van orten Says:

djoker s level up again…do it man do it !!!!!!


Daniel Says:

Djoko’s forehand down the line is killing him, he is missing a lot in the net. Has to find the range again.


Maso Says:

Lot of errors off the forehand for Djoko. He definitely needs to get that back. Come on, Nole, COME ON!


Kimmi Says:

HOLD please djoko


Maso Says:

Nadal’s returning is impeccable in this game, crap, another break point.


Kimmi Says:

break point….c’mon djokovic, dont bring him back


Maso Says:

… So lucky, Nadal. This is so wrong.


Kimmi Says:

net..break..omg. its not djoko time.


jamie Says:

Nadal is done winning slams.

He should send Federer a very expensive gift for taking out Nole in Roland Garros.


Gannu Says:

cruel can be one’s destiny??? Disgusting…


tfouto Says:

WTF 3 times net lucky…


Daniel Says:

Mother F……!!! This is just unfair. WTF.

He already got one return earlier in the line, now this.

Go on and break again Djoko. Because they are tense, BP in all games this set so far, which Djoko saving the first game.


van orten Says:

when on earth the luck of nadal will vanish whennnnn ..i mean is he supposed to be unbeatable or what,,,what is it with that guy,,djoker cannot be unluckier


Kimmi Says:

jamie..go away and come back when djoko win PLEASE! You should know by now, you are a jinxer!


Maso Says:

This is really downright messed up. Getting a break point like that, I’m just disgusted for Djoko…


jamie Says:

And Federer is also done winning slams as well.

Now we enter the era of Nole who will win as many slams as he wants.


Daniel Says:

2 second serves and no point for Djoko..


Maso Says:

The forehand is just not working for Djoko since the 3rd set. This is not good.


Lefty Says:

Could that crazy netcord be the turning point?

Both players playing at a similar level now – it’s in the balance…


Kimmi Says:

djoko is rattled a little bit. needs to concentrate and come back


jamie Says:

My predicted slams for the top players:

Federer: 16 slams (no more for him, he is done)

Djokovic: 12 slams for the Serbian Slayer

Nadal: 10 slams (no more for him, he is done)

Murray: 2 slams in total

Del Potro: 3 slams in total


tfouto Says:

Novak body language is not good…


Aravind Says:

This will now test Djoker’s resolve.. Bad luck to lose that break last game.. But he needs to not beat himself.. Nadal playing a percentage game.. His opponents usually beat themselves here.. Djoker needs to prove that he is number one


Maso Says:

If Novak can get back his game, I think he’ll win. But if he stays like this… it’s not gonna go down too well.


Gannu Says:

I just cnat see nadal biting anothr trophy..anyways i know even my destiny is screwd up;-) so i know all my favorites lose!..lets see what kind of a champion/fighter or worthy No 1 is djokovic.. he has to close this out in 4th set.. noway he is gonna a win a 5th set against nadal… just thrpw away all tensions and focus game by game and not think abt what lies ahead!!!

Thats the only way he is gonna win…


van orten Says:

every great champs needs luck to…thats the winners luck but this is intense…this is goin on for over 12 months now


Kimmi Says:

djoko making errors now..that FH.


Maso Says:

Damnit, Novak, the forehand, what are you doing?!?!


van orten Says:

i mean tight moments


Aravind Says:

Neither player playing particularly good.. This is like their clay court matches.. Both players looking to prolong the rallies and waiting for the other to make a mistake.. Djokovic holds, but was a close game.. He needs to use the next 2 minutes to find his aggrresive game..


Kimmi Says:

now the holds are becoming tougher and tougher. phew!!


Dory Says:

I think he will take the 4th. He just got unlucky with that net cord on break point and Nadal broke back.


Daniel Says:

Djoko needs top break soon. This set is smelling a tiebreak and that will be tense!


jamie Says:

Federer and Nadal should retire, they are finished.


Dory Says:

jamie, please stop making childish comments. Please.


van orten Says:

that was the best point and stroke by nada l in whole match!!!


Maso Says:

That backhand was frightening and very Nadal-like indeed, van orten!


van orten Says:

ah what a nail biter…


jamie Says:

Federer and Nadal should retire, they are done winning slams.


Maso Says:

Pulling my hair out, yep. Damn tense.


van orten Says:

come onnnnn


Aravind Says:

Djokovic returning much better when Nadal is serving from the deuce court.. He is in trouble when Nadal is sreving from the Ad court..


Dory Says:

Commentators saying that the last player to win Wimbledon after being 2 sets to 0 down was back in 1927.


Kimmi Says:

wow, what the dr ordered djoko. finish and hold


Aravind Says:

Very good hold from Djokovic at love.. Now he needs to break to get an opportunity to serve for the match..


Maso Says:

Ok, love game. Now is the time to put on the mega pressure.


Kimmi Says:

dory – the odds are not with nadal but with this bull its not over till its over.

Fingers and toes crossed for nole.


van orten Says:

this is so freakin heartattack tenniss..nadal has haunted us for a long time noleee…end it now!!!


Maso Says:

Double fault for Nadal. Maybe this is the time.


Daniel Says:

Djoko, this is it. I remember a Morpheus in MAtrix II:

“This is waht we are fighting for, this is what we are dying for”

Another one from Troy:

“You know what is waiting beyond that beach, immortality,m take it, it’s your!!!”

T end, Gladiator:

“What man does in life echos in eternity!”

Hahahaha
Hahaha


Aravind Says:

0-30.. COme on Nolee.. Break..


Maso Says:

0-30. Come on, Nole, come on. Put on the pressure!


Dory Says:

Time to break and serve for the championship Nole.


Aravind Says:

3 BREAK POINTS>> COME ON NOLE>>>


Maso Says:

THREE BREAK POINTS! Go Nole, go!!


Gannu Says:

Come on Djoker…believe in urself and just take this…if you want to be a champion..come on fight it out


Kimmi Says:

C’mon Djoko…tense..i am not saying anything


Gannu Says:

agin lucky..the bal chips inside…just ridiculouse..God have some mercy


kriket Says:

and Novak serving for the match !


Maso Says:

NOVAK SERVING FOR THE MATCH!!!


Dory Says:

YES YES YES YES YES!!!!


Kimmi Says:

BREEEAAAAK! Love the djoker

Now serve for the match


Aravind Says:

Nole gets the break….Come on Nole.. PLZZZZ serve it out now!! DOn’t give me a heart attack..


Gannu Says:

FIGHT U BASTARD DJOKOVIC>> FIGHT and JUST ASSASINATE NADAL…COME ON……


Daniel Says:

YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Fed was wrong, this is the shift in tennis!


tfouto Says:

Now hold! GO!


van orten Says:

blood pressure at record hight right now !!!!


aleish17 Says:

That’s it! I want to extend my congratulations to Novak Djokovic!

Feeling bad for Nadal. =(


Kimmi Says:

ah noooo! dont give up djoko


Gannu Says:

van..same here ;-)


st4r5 Says:

Djokovic is serving for the championship!


Gannu Says:

I am going to have a heart attack..dont do this djoker…just believe in urself… three good serves and u are done.. please please


Kimmi Says:

TENSE


Gannu Says:

come on djoker..two more…come on djoker.. believe believe believe


Kimmi Says:

gannu…me tooo..heart attack!


st4r5 Says:

3 more points!


Gannu Says:

this is just horrible… van orten just cant take this…


Kimmi Says:

neeeds to be aggressive…big first serve here. djoko is tense


st4r5 Says:

o my god!


Dory Says:

2 points! Just 2 points! But Nadal just won’t give up. He’s a MONSTER.


kriket Says:

championship point


Maso Says:

Serve and volley! Match point!!!


Dory Says:

CHAMPIONSHIP POINT!!!!!


Kimmi Says:

MATCH POINT, shaking!!


st4r5 Says:

yes one more ppoint!


Gannu Says:

COME ON MATCH POINT KIMMI VAN ..COMNE ON.. lets PRAY PRAY.. GOD PLEASE PLEASE DO THIS FOR DJOKER…HE DESERVES


kriket Says:

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE


van orten Says:

this is it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! come on


Lefty Says:

Looks like Nadal was right, those defeats to Nole has given Nole the edge.


Daniel Says:

DJOKOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


Dory Says:

Z O M F G!!!!!! He’s done it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Maso Says:

OH MY GOD DJOKOVIC DOES IT!!!!!!


Gannu Says:

UBBELIEBVABLE ACHIEVEMENT


van orten Says:

unbelievablee thank u nole thank u ,,..you have saved us you have saved tennis !!!


Daniel Says:

Djoko likes grass. Hahahaha


kriket Says:

Nadal send a BIG THANK YOU note to RF for allowing you to win FO. And then say goodbye to #1.


Lefty Says:

Congratulations Jane and the other Nolites out there!


jane Says:

OH MY GOD NOLE!!!!!!!! :)))))))))


tfouto Says:

Yeah!!!!!!!!


Dory Says:

Slam No.3!!! 16-12 against Nadal. World No.1. He’s going to win US Open as well!!!!


st4r5 Says:

yes!!!! it’s djokovic era now. congrat to nadal’s effort, he fought but fell short.


Maso Says:

I haven’t been this happy watching tennis in a long time. What a moment. This is a new era for tennis, no doubt. Novak is now the true, uncontested #1.


tfouto Says:

YEAH!


aleish17 Says:

Congrats to Novak for Grand Slam #3!
Rafa was just outplayed today. Feel so sad and disappointed.


Kimmi Says:

nadal should give RG to nole. He only won it by lucky.


Dory Says:

Roger Federer lost just 4 matches in one season when he was at his peak. Maybe Nole can do it as well!!!!!!


kriket Says:

Undisputable World Number 1. Now, nobody can question his fitness, ability or whatever. He OWNS Nadal, and hopefully will meet him in every tournament final, cos he owns him BIGTIME!!!


Dory Says:

8 YEARS OF DOMINATION AT WIMBLEDON BY FEDERER AND NADAL BROKEN BY NOLE!!!!!!!!! MAGNIFICENT ACHIEVEMENT!!!!


van orten Says:

i will take the coldest shower ever after ceremonyyyy …how well one have to play to beat nadal…


Anon Says:

Congrats to Nole’s fans! Your faith in him is justified. What a great player!


Kimmi Says:

Time for Nadal fans to feel what federer fans felt. Welcome to FED-LAND diniel???


Daniel Says:

WTF, you hipothetical scenario is done, Djoko holds 2 Slams, this year. Clear n#1, and almost assure to finish the year as #1, unless Nadal wins US Open (which I doubt) to have a chance.

Djoko will probably win at leat 1 or 2 more MAsters on hard and will have the record of most masters in a season.

Wimbledon has a new King!!!!


kriket Says:

Nadal is outclassed, which is really unbelievable.


Maso Says:

It seems Novak is Nadal’s kryptonite like Nadal is to Federer (like Federer is to Novak). What a crazy triangle! I’d love to see a Djoko – Federer final at the US Open and see how that goes.


fed is afraid Says:

will rafa ever beat nole again?
not likely.


Gordo Says:

Could this be the birth of a new era where like we had when Roger was invincible except for Rafa, now Rafa is invincible except for Nole?

The difference is Nole is now around for every Grand Slam whereas during Roger’s dominant 5 years Rafa was rarely in finals except for the French Open.

Big congrats to Nole. #1 with a bullet!!! Roger may be thinking his 16 Grand Slam wins record could be a little safer now.


tfouto Says:

Djoko is the man!!! Sean you live in the past… Nadal cant be beaten in 5 sets bla bla.. Stucked in the past… Tennis analisis should have the new trends involved. Djoko is the new trend now.

Congrats for all Djokovic fans.


Daniel Says:

The worst for NAdal is that it still has 4 and a hath motnhs were he can still lose several more matches to Nole.


i am it Says:

The THE most beautiful and satisfying experience I have had watching Djoko beating Rafa at his best on his favored surface !!!

Doubters and naysayers have been answered fair and square.

Salute to the new champion !!!
Great day Jane, Duro, Sar, the old bunch !!!


Maso Says:

The crazy thing is Nole coulda straight setted Nadal if he hadn’t lost his focus in the third. I know it’s part of the game, but when he is on, it seems Nadal really has trouble keeping up with him. At least this season.


Kimmi Says:

ha ha mike trouble


aleish17 Says:

Congrats to jane, Sar, duro and to all the Novak fans. Unbelievable achievement by Novak.


van orten Says:

i want fed in rafas side of the draw at us open !!!


Gordo Says:

But don’t count Rafa out for future matches. We may hear that his foot was bothering him worse than we thought. It is a common complaint about Rafa that whenever he loses there is always some ailment that prevents him from winning, rather than it being the play of his opponent. I tire of it myself and I like to say that besides the tools one needs the toolbox. I do hope that old injury excuse does not rear up again.


Dc Says:

Nole has defeated Nadal in finals on hard courts, clay and grass – all in the same year.


Dc Says:

The only player to beat the new king this year – Federer.


Dory Says:

Nole is setting is own records which Federer and Nadal don’t hold. The Masters 1000 performance. The loss of just one match so far. Earliest qualification ever for World Tour Finals.


Daniel Says:

One true holds, NAdal never defended a title outside of clay. You can’t seriously be GOAT if you can’t win back to back outside of clay.

Fed, as all of us Fed fans, must have a big smaile on his face, drinking a good U$ 1,000 glass of wine right now, with a salute to Djoko in his LED TV back at home! :)
I can even envision this picture.


Anon Says:

As much as my heart desires Roger to regain the number 1 ranking, Novak truly deserves to be called the best in the world right now.

Rafa fans, do not despair. He will be back.


Dory Says:

He may pretty well set the record for best SEASON ANYone has ever had in tennis.


margot Says:

jane and co., am almost, yes almost, as thrilled as if it were Andy.
Nole played some of the most amazing tennis I’ve seen in the first two sets. Bravo!
Oh and wasn’t his kid brother a cutie, living and dieing every point.


Dory Says:

US Open must now be won by Roger OR Nole. Roger can’t any year without a Slam. No big titles too this year. I hope and wish Roger wins US Open and makes it 17.


Brando Says:

Wow! Congratulations to djokovic fans first of all. As for rafa, where does he go from here……


xyz Says:

Nadal’s just lost a Wimbledon final & he’s humble, joking with the crowd as the mic didn’t work. You’re a top banana, Rafa….

congrats to all novak fans…well deserved and truly a special champion

vaaaamos rafa


i am it Says:

Sweet Margot,
Very nice of you to say sincerely “almost, as thrilled as if it were Andy.”
Hugs to you, girl.


Daniel Says:

Fed 16-7 23 finals
Nadal 10-3 13 finals
Djoko 3-2 5 finals

How will it end?


Daniel Says:

Where is that Wade fella?!

And Humble Rafa for us to laugh a little.


stu Says:

NOLEEEEE!!


funches Says:

Djokovic will dominate Nadal for the rest of their careers whether it is best of three, five, seven or nine. Doesn’t matter. It’s a perfect matchup for him.

I’m not saying Rafa will never beat him again. That’s ridiculous. But the head-to-head series will end with Djokovic ahead.


Daniel Says:

Nadal lost a Slam final after 7 straight wins.


marrisv Says:

congrats to Novak and his fans. Gutted for rafa loss. Rafa has mentally lost it with Novak. In the crucial points he folds first. He has to find a way to change it. Hope he does.


Duro Says:

In No1-vak we trusted…

Rightfully.

Cheers all and thank you, and I am off to Belgrade to wait for my champion and share our joy with him and fans.

Gog bless you Novak Djoković. You made my life more beautiful.

Hail the new king of tennis – Djoković Novak, so help him God.

Cheers.


Queen Mirka3 Says:

Well done, Novak. You are a great great champion. What a performance! Fully deserved!

And Rafa tried his best, and was simply not good enough. Tennis is in good hands with Novak and Rafa on top.


jamie Says:

Federer and Nadal ought to retire now, they are finished.


Brando Says:

I think djokovic is in nadal’s head now. But as a rafa fan I just can’t see how raga can beat him now since djokovic return, movement, backhand is clearly better. I mean to serve over 80% most of the match and still lose most be disheartening.


jamie Says:

Dory Says:
US Open must now be won by Roger OR Nole. Roger can’t any year without a Slam. No big titles too this year. I hope and wish Roger wins US Open and makes it 17.

__________________

USOpen is Djoko’s to lose.


jane Says:

Wow, HUGE ocngratulations to Novak Djokovic!! He really proved himself and his mettle. He can put a big check mark in his “ambtion” box (number 1) and a big check mark in his “dream” box (Wimbledon title). Wowowowow.

Commiserations to Rafa and his fans. Well, he has ten slams and is a great champ. He will be back!

Thanks to everyone who said congrats!!! Am so happy for Nole to have fulfilled his dreams. Now we have to party, yes? I am it, sar, Duro, all Nole fans – wooooooooooooot!!! I honestly thought Rafa would win, but all year, Nole has just gone BEYOND expectations!!! WOW!!! Still freaking out, hahahahahaha!


jane Says:

stu, special one for you. 48-1? Is that actually right?! Gack!


jamie Says:

NAdal never defended a title outside of clay.

__________

He is a dirtballer than can only win on clay and that is is Fed takes out Nole for him.


Brando Says:

Djokovic is favourite now for EVERY slam


jamie Says:

will rafa ever beat nole again?
not likely.

_____________

Nope.


jamie Says:

Kimmi Says:
nadal should give RG to nole. He only won it by lucky.

_________________

This.


Brando Says:

I think only del potro can beat djokovic at us open


jamie Says:

Dory Says:
Slam No.3!!! 16-12 against Nadal. World No.1. He’s going to win US Open as well!!!!

_____________________

No doubt.


jane Says:

margot, as you woudl say, wheeeeeeeeeeee! :)

Check out Nole’s interview after the semi. The answers to the last three questions explain why Nole knows Murray will win a slam. And he will!


jatt Says:

Jamie the soothsayers predictions have come true. Congrats to you :)


jamie Says:

I think only del potro can beat djokovic at us open

_____________

Only Federer.


runciter Says:

having played two majors after turning 25 roger had won 10 slams.
rafa is in the same position now. he better keep the pace up.


jamie Says:

Djokovic is favourite now for EVERY slam

______________________

Exactly. He is the favorite to win all the slams he enters.


Kimmi Says:

jane – you were very quiet during the match..i understand, must be the nerves.

Congtars to all nole fans. So happy for him. All those who said nole cant play on grass? well, there is your answer.

rafa was lucky at RG. nole would have been going for the calender GS at the uso. would have been :)))


Skeezerweezer Says:

Kimberly, Aliesh17 and all the fair Rafa fans, commesierations :(

Ms Wade, Borg, Rick and the “others”

Who’s your Daddy now?

Novak!

What goes around comes around and now you know pissin on Fed to make you fav look good can go both ways. Rafa’s achievements stand on his own.

Nole fans Duro,stu,Jane i am it, dory congrats!,,,, 5 time domination….the new Rafa killer!!!,!,


jane Says:

Kimmi, I try not tompost during Nole’s matches as too nervous. Ha. I just watch and wait and cross my fingers. But I read along and I always enjoy your comments, Daniel’s etc. !! Cheers! What a fabulous win for Novak.


Tennis Fan Says:

Djokovic owns Nadal … Nadal’s game however has probably peaked. Twilight Fed can still beat Djokovic however on any good day.

Djoko will win a couple more slams … before being replaced by a Delpo or some other nobody today. He’s not going to win very many however … he’s just not that good. So congratulation Djoko … just don’t expect it to last too long.


Brando Says:

I think del potro since he did not defend last year and really he is the only 1 right now with the power and mind needed to beat djokovic. If del potro’s serve clicks, add in his forehand and backhand he can outpower djokovic. Also mentally speaking he’s won the us open and is not scarred by djokovic which rada is right now.


jane Says:

Dory, woot! :)


jamie Says:

Can Nole break Fed’s slam record?


Aravind Says:

Amazing win for Djokovic… This is a very difficult loss for Nadal.. Kinda like Federer’s loss against Nadal in the AO 09.. He threatened even after, but was never the same again..


vox777 Says:

THANKS NOLE!!!
WHOLE SERBIA IS PROUD OF YOU!!!
WE KNEW YOU’LL DO IT!!!
kEEP ROLLING
IDEMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!


tfouto Says:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/tennis/14006575.stm

Look at this stats:

Nadal VS Djokovic

1st serves
78% 73%

1st serve win %

67% 72%

Djokovic is a better returner…


sar Says:

he’s just not that good. So congratulation Djoko … just don’t expect it to last too long.

aw, come on tennis fan, starting already? Won’t you give a a couple of weeks of credit?


Seth Says:

Congrats to Nole and his fans (count me among them). What a way to underscore his newfound number one status!


vox777 Says:

NOLE IS NOW WORLD CHAMPION WITH NOTHING TO PROVE
Great posting on this cite, I usualy read but don’t post (too much time required) but today is so special day!!!


margot Says:

jane so sweet to be saying this at this special moment. Thanx. :)
And thanx and hugs back to you darling i am it :)


Dan Martin Says:

Wow. Great match. Neither player tended to play well when the other guy had things going well, but the tennis from 4-4 to 6-4, 6-1 by Nole was unreal. For Nadal to then fight back, was great. Then the 4th set each guy played a little shaky here and there, but they were also dug in and mentally fighting. The serve volley at 30-30 in the final game was tactically great.

I did find it interesting that both players discussed their 4 previous matches this year and the impact it had on their out look at different times in the match. I guess one guy getting over on another a bunch of times has carry over from surface to surface as Nole is now 2-0 hard, 2-0 clay, 1-0 grass and 11-3 in sets vs. Nadal this year. It speaks well of Nole to reverse that as he had lost many matches to Nadal on clay and grass as well as lost their biggest hard court encounter last year (& the 08 Olympic semis) despite an overall favorable hardcourt record vs. Rafa.


Ike Says:

Aravind
agree with your first half of comment (at 12:32 pm), but not with the second half.
Remember, most experts doubted if Rafa could make a strong comeback after that FO-09 loss and the injury, but he did come back very strongly and won 3 slams in 2010.
So, I won’t write off Rafa yet, he is a fighter. Eventually he will figure out how to beat Nole.
I am Nole fan, but I don’t think he can keep this level for Federer kind of 3-4 years.


jamie Says:

How many slams can Nole win?


van orten Says:

nole nole nole hahahhaha still excited ..what a match…us open hardcourt stretch gonna be awesome..fed is favourite because of his record the last years almost always playing good in the complete us open series…but of course the new number 1 is the one to beat…he prays for murray in the semis…he knows only roger can beat him !!!


mem Says:

congratulations to novak & company. he certainly deserves to be wimby champ and nadal certainly deserves to lose. he made his bed hard now let him lie in it.

how on earth can he make the same mistakes losing serve in the 1st & 4th sets. that’s what you get when you allow a player to keep beating you. the pressure to close out sets mount and it impacts the mental. novak had become tense in the 4th set and what happens nadal drops serve at the most critical point in the match. all i can say is novak deserves it. he deserves #1 and good luck to him.

my eggs will always be in nadal’s basket, i love and admire the champion and person that he is,always will, but he brought this on himself when he allowed novak to win IW & Miami. i saw this coming and i don’t like the fact that he is making novak appear much better than he really is.

anyway the match is history, so, nadal take the punches, suck it up, and work on figuring it all out.

again, congratulations to novak!
well done!


Ike Says:

vox777
I disagree that Nole has nothing more to prove.
He still has to win the USO & FO, there is lot more to prove to be spoken in the same sentence as Rafa & Roger.
I am Nole fan and hope that his run continues like Federer 2004-07, but I doubt it.


zinaldo Says:

Very true i think del potro at his very best is the only player with the game and the mental side to beat novak but roger isn’t far behind but he is too errors prone now days and cannot be counted on.

Really it is really strange to see rafa just avoid novak backhand and just pepper his forehand,can you imagine if novak had del potro or roger forehand rafa would have nowhere to hit,sport is definitely played at 60% in the head and 40 percent physical and right now like roger whenever he sees rafa nadal just doesn’t believe he can beat nole.

What is unbelievable though is whenever nole is on a bit like del potro was at the us open 2009 nadal has no answers or ways or hurting him and that is must be strange for rafa because against the greatest of all time roger he knew is backhand would break down but novak is so strong and pretty much unbreakable.

Well done novak but i hope you don’t rest on this win but carry on working to be even better because that is what rafa is going to do.

What i now want to see is nole play roger at the us semi or final but also rafa vs del potro to see if rafa can avenge his defeat or are those 2 players going to be his biggest nemesis.

Really well done nole you deserve it for the work you have put in this year even roger at his best had weaknesses but you can’t really find one.


scoreboard66 Says:

Great win for Novak. He’s now No. 1 and Wimbledon champion. How sweet it is!


Ike Says:

margot
your true special moment will be when Andy Murray wins this year’s USO!
Yes, we been wrong before, but not this time, everyone will be talking about Nole, Rafa, Roger, Delpo as favorites to win USO, but surprise Murray is going to win it this year!!!


Dan Martin Says:

I think we are starting to see a few guys creep into the outer edge of relevancy in tennis. Tomic, Dogo, and Dimitrov have all shown some promise. JMDP seems closer to 09 form. Tsonga is maybe going to build on this.

Having said all of that, Federer and Nadal is the exception not the rule in the tennis I have watched over the years. A committee of guys with shots at majors is the norm. That makes Nole’s crazy winning percentage and streak all the more impressive. We may be slowly shifting into a committee of champions, but Nole is dominating at the moment. 2 out of 3 Slams, 4 Masters Series titles, plus a 500 & 250 since January.

3 majors for Nole puts him out in front of Guga to my mind as Guga never got past the quarters at anywhere outside of Paris. Wrestling #1 away from Nadal (who has a lot of points in 2011 himself) probably makes place Nole very close to Courier & his 4 slams in terms of overall career accomplishments.


jamie Says:

How many slams can Nole win????


Dan Martin Says:

Jaime I think Nole could get to between 6-8. I always look at 8 as the benchmark a player has to cross before I start thinking all time stuff because Connors, Lendl and Agassi each have 8. If he gets to 8, well who knows.


Ike Says:

I think Rafa should have come to net few more times. I guess he came to the net pretty much when he was forced to. I mean coming to net only 9 times in 4 set match is not enough. He could have tried to serve & volley few times.


aleo Says:

Congrats to all you Djoko fans out there! He is the true #1.

Nadal just seems a bit unnerved by Djoko and it shows in the big points.

Fed is afraid… maybe time to update to your name? ;-)

I still think Rafa will win his fair share of titles. Roger, I don’t think so. Maybe 1, if he has a great 2 weeks.

Time for Murray and DelPo to step up to the plate as well.


scoreboard66 Says:

I doubt this match will go down as one of Wimbles’ classic with two 6-1, 6-1 routs, but it was a competitive match nonetheless.

Nadal, to me played very tentative and didn’t seem to have his usual fire. i suppose we can put that down to having being beaten 4 times previously by Nole. So, what will Rafa do going forth when he meets Novak. luckily, they’ll both be on the other side of the draw and will only meet in the finals, if both should get there.


Ike Says:

jamie

i would say Nole will win about 7-8 grandslams, as that seems to be most common number for previous greats (Agassi, Conors, McEnroe, Vilander, Lendl).
I hope he can win 10+ but not so sure.


Ike Says:

I think this year’s USOpen is going to be one of the best in its history. All top 4 guys have something to prove. Plus there is Delpo, maybe Tsonga.


EdgarCayce Says:

‘first time for everything’ written all over it :)

Congratulations NOLE!! Breakthrough DAY!

Wimbledon Champion and No.1. Ah, that sounds good!!

I guess Nole does know the answers and has the weapons to beat Rafa on all surfaces. AND win in a GS! New Wimbledon Champion!

5-1 Rafa in GS events and still time to turn that GS H2H around!

9-2 Rafa on clay
2-1 Rafa on grass
9-5 Nole on HC

That 9-5 Nole on hc is what I like going into US Open and AO :)


Ike Says:

scoreboard66
I would say this final was almost as boring as last year’s. Only great moments were in the beginning of the first and fourth set. I was hoping for real Rafa to show up, but seems like he has become Roger.


scoreboard66 Says:

Ike, does this sound familiar to you, R&R?


Ike Says:

Dan Martin
i didn’t copy ur comments re. how many grandslams Nole can win LOL!!!
I have my spreadsheets and stats :)
I agree with you that 8 is the benchmark


jamie Says:

I believe that Fedal will not win anymore slams…


Ike Says:

scoreboard66 Says:

Ike, does this sound familiar to you, R&R?

???
you mean this Nole & Rafa rivalry is taking same route as Rafa & Roger?


Ike Says:

jamie
I believe that Fedal will not win anymore slams…are you serious???
or just kidding?


jamie Says:

I think Fedal will retire soon. They are over.


Ike Says:

EdgarCayce
i have a feeling that Rafa might start hoping that someone else will beat Nole. No one will acknowledge that, I know.
But, to be honest I don’t think Rafa is ready to give up this early, he has bigger target on his mind one more grandslam than Roger!


jamie Says:

Ike Says:
jamie
I believe that Fedal will not win anymore slams…are you serious???
or just kidding?

______________

Do you see Fedal winning? How many more slams?


Tennis Fan Says:

I think the part I enjoyed most was when Djokovic’s box was standing in unison with their fists raised (Djok’s mom & dad included). I can just picture Federer’s parent and Mila in the same pose … or Rafa’s family and coach for that matter. (Other than Murray’s (mom)) in fact, there is probably no group as rabid as that of the Djok’s.


Ike Says:

jamie
come on, no one is retiring, Roger wants that one more grandslam, his best chance will be USO, not sure about Wimbledon, I think he will like to retire winning a grandslam.
Rafa has good 4 years ahead of him, even though he has lot of tennis mileage on him, i think he can survive the ATP grind for 4 more years.


jamie Says:

What if Rafa pulls a Borg? And retires this year.

Nole is Rafa’s Mcenroe…


scoreboard66 Says:

Ike, no, you said Rafa is playing like Roger, thus, the R&R. Rafa and Roger are now together in how they are playing and don’t need to be separate.


Ike Says:

jamie
I am not Roger fan at all, I have rooted against Roger since Wimbledon 2003! But i think he has one more grandslam left in him, just like Sampras proved everyone wrong in 2002.


Ike Says:

scoreboard66
seems like Rafa has mentally lost against Nole, the way Roger lost against him.
But, I think Rafa is mentally tougher than Roger (yes it’s very bold statement), he will come back.


Ike Says:

jamie
Bjorg was Bjorg, Rafa is not going to do that, (well, he might do that if he starts losing on a regular basis in the grandslam finals to Nole), I think he will play for at least 4 more years.


jamie Says:

If it weren’t for Fed, Nole would be heading to the USO with a huge chance of winning the CYGS.


jamie Says:

Federer ruined Nole’s chances of winning all 4 slams this year. Sucks…


Brando Says:

Jamie- I have always felt that nadal is a modern day equivalent of Borg and djokovic of Lendl. Therefore, I. Feel nadal at best would get to 13 slams and djokovic 10. But 1 thing every1 must realise is that nadal won 3 slams last year and was going for the rafa slam at aus open looking invincible, then boom- djokovic. So with that in mind I don’t think anyone can predict what is goin to happen next except that djokovic is clear favourite for us open


Ike Says:

jamie
it’s tough to guess how many more grandslams Rafa will win…maybe 2 (or 3) FO, 1 AO, 1 (or 2) Wimby, (very unlikely) 1 USO, thus, I would say about 5, max 7.


scoreboard66 Says:

Ike, yes that’s what I mean about the mental stuff. Rafa in Fed’s head, Nole in Rafa’s. Both Rafa and Fed each has someone in their heads. Rafa can now hope for Fed to land in Nole’s side of the draw at the USO coz Fed’s good on HC USO.


Tennis Fan Says:

I wonder if Wimbledon will ever fix their grass? … nothing like two clay events in a row. Wimbledon was suppose to be the fastest court on the tour … now its probably second slowest. Pretty pathetic really…


jamie Says:

Ike: I think Rafa is mentally tougher than Roger

__________

Not really.


Ike Says:

jamie
i had predicted that Nole will CYGS this year, well it really sucks that Fed beat him in FO semi.
CYGS has happened only ones in men’s open era…Laver in 69, and probably will never happen again.


scoreboard66 Says:

Tennis Fan, NBC showed a shot of the courts and I was shocked to see one court to be just dirt. Most of the courts the grass was eaten away at the baseline.


Ike Says:

jamie
if you ask most of tennis experts, who is mentally more tougher, Roger or Rafa? I think most of them will agree that it’s Rafa


Ike Says:

scoreboard66
even though Nole has beaten Roger 9 times, i think he still is bit worried playing Roger.


Dan Martin Says:

Ike – No worries, I did not think you had copied me. Should I get back to writing for tennis-x? Sean writes so much volume that I only want to write something if it contributes something unique to the site. I have a few ideas on US tennis and women’s tennis.

I also have to say that with two toddlers my writing time is compromised. (Fed with two toddlers has a bit more of a budget for childcare than I do). I do want to get back into it though so long as I have something to add.


Ike Says:

scoreboard66
even though the grass kind of vanishes from the baseline by the end of the second week, still i don’t think we can compare that to clay. Matches still last lot less than clay. The speed is still ok, of course we can’t compare that to 90s, but i like this nature of Wimbledon, where it’s not totally one dimensional. It’s good to see some rallies.


Ike Says:

Dan Martin
Tennis has never been so affordable in US.
Many highschools have tennis courts, typically they are free for everyone.
Many colleges / universities let you play on their courts.
Racquet prices are low.
(A lot of ) Free coaching videos are available on YouTube.
Thus, it’s very sad to see Americans not playing tennis that much.
They have to do something about it.


Ike Says:

Dan Martin
Teach your toddlers how to play tennis at real early age, you might have a Agassi!
(It seems unfortunate that Jaden Agassi has chosen baseball (i think pitching) over tennis)


Skeezerweezer Says:

mem,

Great post @12:41.. Respect. Rafa has more Slams in him. Every top player has there Kryptonite, as Rafa has been to Fed, and now Nole to Rafa. And recently Fed to Nole. Hate that Kryptonite stuff ;). But it makes a pot of good Tennis.


Dory Says:

Guys guys guys I want to hug you all! Jane, kimmi, ike, jamie, sar, stu and anyone I forgotten. I am very very happy today! Great day for Novak! Any 1st Slam is so special. Nole deserves much more than 3 Slams, given his calibre. Now I am going to sue the ITF and USTA if Federer and Djokovic land in the same side of the draw at the US Open.


Nims Says:

Folks should not forget that Rafa did not lose much to others except Nole. Not sure why people should downplay his opportunities in the future slams. I don’t see anyone getting close to Nadal atleast till the end of 2012 except Nole at his current form.

But we may never know. It could happen that Rafa’s body may not take the extra hard work he may have to put now to cope with Nole. Rafa was happy with his below form in the post wimbledon season in the prior years, since he was winning almost everything from March to July.

But now with his few losses in that period, he may have to perform better in the next few months to fight for the No 1 ranking. Interesting times for Nadal and even for Novak.


Ike Says:

Dory
not sure, but i think Wimbledon is the only GS, where no.1 might have to play no.3, in the semi.
I think all other GS go with 1 vs. 4, and 2 vs. 3 format, which makes more sense.


Dory Says:

It’s not like that.

All tournament draws, Slams and ATP events, 1 and 2 are in opposite halfs and they “claim” they 3 is randomly drawn. Then whatever quarter 3 is drawn into, 4 is draw into its opposite and so on for 5 and 6. And what they claim is now increasingly suspicious to me as almost always Roger and Nole land up in the same side of the draw, especially in Slams.


mem Says:

skeezer,

i call it the way it is. this is novak’s moment in the sun, no one can deny that. i am not so obsessed with tennis or with my favorite player that i need to make excuses for him or take credit away from the opponent. No Excuse for nadal today. he had equal chances to win. there was no reason for him to make mistakes at a critical junction like he did today. novak is not better than him, i know that, but when you have lost to the same player four consecutive times, the mind plays trick in pressure moments. like i said, he’s helping to make novak look so much better than he really is. novak is good, but nadal help dig his own grave. so, i don’t feel sorry for him. after he won the third set so convincingly, novak body language changed and his play dropped. but does nadal capitalize on it, NO! so, i’m not pitying him. five times in a row sounds horrible but it’s not impossible to turn things around in the future. after all, this is nadal we’re talking about and i don’t doubt for one moment that he won’t change the situation in the future. he’ll figure it out. he’s battle-tested; he understands what has to be done. he won’t have the pressure of #1 or the pressure of expectations against novak when they meet again. everybody’s money will be on novak to win, especially since he is the new #1 and apparently has nadal’s number for the time being at least.

so, in my opinion, that’s a positive and that’s how he will climb back from this hold he put himself in. no one will expect him to beat novak next time. less expectations can be dangerous!

the way i see it, this is not the end of the world but rafa has to work this one out in his head for himself. in any case, novak deserves all credit for his incredible year and the way he accomplished it. not bad especially beating nadal five times. that alone is simply amazing. still, nadal is nadal. you can bet he won’t rest until something change.


Gordo Says:

jamie Says:
Can Nole break Fed’s slam record?

++++++

Jamie – you seem to be making drug-induced comments in here.

Nole has 3 Slams. Federer has 16; that’s 13 to go – if he won every slam in succession it would take him over 3 years.

Let’s remember the greatest year of any male player (as far as fewest losses) belongs to John McEnroe – 3 losses and he took 2 sets from Lendl in the final of the French Open that year before coming up with what many call the biggest choke in mens’ tennis history.

At least he took 2 sets. Djokovic couldn’t win 2 at the French this year against Federer. You know – Roger Federer? The guy you say should retire?

Maybe that’s what you want – if the top 5 guys all retire then Djokovic might win a few more slams. But there are new young guns out there, and when they peak Nole will be like Federer is now; still excellent, but in need of a little help if he is going to win another if he is going to add to his slam title.

Why don’t we wait until Nole has say – 10 slams before we go asking stupid questions… no?


Dan Martin Says:

My two kids each got a racket for their first birthday! Maybe sometime when they are a bit older (my daughter is not quite 3 and my son just turned 1), I will give them some instruction. Knowing my own gene pool I think hands are okay, but foot speed eh…. My daughter is off the charts tall for her age so maybe lol.


grendel Says:

WTF – it’s kind of out of date, now, but a quick response to:”Nadal is a better player than Federer on clay, and if Nole couldn’t beat Federer, I just don’t see how he could have beat Nadal.”

It’s the triangular thing, isn’t it? Good job Tsonga beat Fed, since Fed might well have beaten Djokovic – and then Nadal would have won for cert today.
Also, ” Nadal has been beaten on clay in smaller events before (e.g. Federer in Hamburg and Madrid) and gone on to get his revenge at the French Open”. Yes, but there was a question mark over Nadal’s fitness in the Fed wins. No such query in the Djokovic wins – he didn’t just beat Nadal, he beat him convincingly, and was therefore entitled to be considered favourite at RG.


margot Says:

ike @ 7.44 well darlin, I do hope you’re right. Doesn’t look like it to me at the mo :(


mem Says:

Nims,

in my opinion, nadal doesn’t need to concern himself with #1 ranking and i’m sure he doesn’t. he needs to do what he has always done keep working to improve and the results will come! if results lead back to #1 good, if not, so be it. he has nothing to be down about, except be angry with himself for the mistakes he made today against novak that would have potentially carried him to a fifth set, but that’s history now. great thing is, he beats everyone else and he knows he can beat them. he has had a terrific season, but because novak has beaten him 5 times no one is going to consider how good nadal’s season has been thusly. they are going to look at one stat and one stat only and that’s the 5 times he was beaten by novak. the 5 consecutive times will overshadow his great season. that’s just the way it is! although nadal has had a really great season and has only lost consistently to novak, it’s not surprising that people will write his obituary and then proceed with the burial. as a nadal fan, i would be disappointed if they didn’t. i’m use to it and i’m sure he expects it too. people love winners and the moment you lose you are written off. that’s the way of the world.


Dory Says:

It’s a rock, paper, scissors trivalry. One that neutralizes ones who say Nadal is greater than Federer because of their head to head. I think Djokovic might have won the French too if not for Roger Federer. Why don’t they have more tournaments like World Tour Finals or at least more points weightage to World Tour Finals I don’t understand. It’s a classic format that shows how you fare against all other top players, not just a select few.


vox777 Says:

Ike, Nole has nothing to prove to me as his fan, which I was from 2003. (I think) when I saw him play in Budva. He has won everything I imagined him to win… And trust me as a true fan that said that Nole knows how to play on clay when all you doubted, I think that this will boost his confidence and make him even better, he will start winning like nadal, by fear of him alone. He can still play better than this, his FH is better than this and his serve will be even better! Watched Nole against Argenrinian Canas in Miami finals? Dig it up if you are a fan, and you will know what am I talking about. Trust me, he can do much better than this… and on his best day, I think that he is afraid of himself LOL


Nims Says:

mem,

I would be very surprised if Nadal does not care about No 1. He should. sports persons goal would be to be the best in his field. I don’t know if Nadal is different. He asked the umpire if he wants to see a different No 1 in last year Wimbledon against Soderling. It clearly shows how much he cares for No 1.

I see him reclaim No 1 position next year. Just can’t imaging Novak is going to defend all his points in 2012. If he does that, it would be one of the craziest record in tennis, along with Roger’s semifinal streak.

I don’t think everyone would downplay Nadal’s play in the current year. People with tennis knowledge would definitely understand what a year he has so far. He was in Finals of almost every event he entered from Feb. That’s ridiculous.

If you are a Rafa fan, I bet next 2 years are going to be wonderful times.

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