Federer Wins Thurs. Late Night, Woz v Serena at US Open
by Staff | September 8th, 2011, 11:46 pm
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World No. 1 Novak Djokovic’s fortunes keep shining at the 2011 US Open. Not only did the Serb get his match in on a rain-hampered day in Flushing Meadows on Thursday, but he got an early rest when his opponent, countryman Janko Tipsarevic, retired in the fourth set with a hamstring injury.


“I think I sensed early in the third set, when I got a break, he lost a lot of pace on his first serve,” said Djokovic who led 7-6(2), 6-7(3), 6-0, 3-0, and cruised after two sets when Tipsarevic retired. “He wasn’t able to move as well. It’s really unfortunate in a quarterfinal of a Grand Slam.”

Djokovic also needed a visit from the trainer for a toe problem.

The world No. 1 will next in the semifinals meet Roger Federer, who late Thursday night defeated Jo-Wilfried Tsonga 6-4, 6-3, 6-3.

When Andy Roddick’s match resumed Thursday it was quickly halted due to a wet spot on the court. An hour later the players were brought back out, with the spot still wet, and US Open officials quickly felt Roddick’s wrath.

“Can you tell us why you brought us out here?…How hard is it to not see water?…What are we doing here?” Roddick said. Roddick went on, “I’m baffled right now. Absolutely baffled.”

The match was then moved to Court 13 at Roddick’s request, where the American defeated Spaniard David Ferrer, avenging a recent Davis Cup loss 6-3, 6-4, 3-6, 6-3, high-fiving spectators afterwards.

“I thought the atmosphere was great. People packed in,” Roddick said of the smaller venue. “I’d rather play a smaller court and have it packed, than playing a bigger court and have it a quarter full.”

Roddick will next in the quarterfinals meet world No. 2 Rafael Nadal, who defeated Gilles Muller of Luxembourg 7-6(1), 6-1, 6-2.

Nadal, already on the ATP Player Council, is frustrated with the playing schedule amidst the rain at the US Open and is looking to make some changes.

“The problem is we don’t have enough power in these kind of tournaments,” Nadal said of the players. “That’s what have to change very soon.”

American Donald Young quickly exited the US Open at the hands of No. 4 seed Andy Murray, losing 6-2, 6-3, 6-3.

Murray will next face big American John Isner, who served his way past Frenchman Gilles Simon 7-6(2), 3-6, 7-6(2), 7-6(4). It is the first Grand Slam quarterfinal for Isner.

“A lot of times when I’m tired I am able to conserve energy at the right times and expend my energy at the right times,” said Isner on his ability to look tired in every match. “I think today it was huge for me getting that first set because I was down a break twice, and he served for it at 6-5.”

Winners in the women’s quarterfinals were former No. 1 Serena Williams, current No. 1 Caroline Wozniacki, Sam Stosur and German surprise Angelique Kerber.

Williams defeated Russian No. 17 seed Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova 7-5, 6-1, overcoming serving difficulties in the opening set.

“I just kept losing serve in the beginning. Very weird,” Williams said.

Williams will next meet Wozniacki, who was a 6-1, 7-6(5) winner against No. 10 Andrea Petkovic of Germany.

“I don’t care what people think and say or do,” said Wozniacki, under the microscope as the world No. 1 who hasn’t won a Slam, and will be facing Serena Williams for the first time since becoming No. 1. “I care about what I know best. I go out there, and what I care about is that I give 100 percent every time.”

Stosur will player Kerber after Kerber upset No. 26 Flavia Pennetta 6-4, 4-6, 6-3, and Stosur beat No. 2 Vera Zvonareva 6-3, 6-3.

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The USTA had to love watching their US Open broadcast partner and ESPN commentator John McEnroe on Wednesday advocating for the players to protest and refuse to play so many backed-up matches in a row at the US Open…Serena Williams on her buddy, movie director Spike Lee: “I know Spike really, really well. We’re really good friends. We always hang out in Florida. We always try to do lunch or dinner sometimes. His parents actually live in Palm Beach, literally down the street. I’ve been there a few times. He and his wife are great…He’s crazy. He wants to win more than I do. He’s like, ‘Hit to me really hard.’ I’m like, ‘I can’t hit to you really hard. I’m going to break your racquet if I do.’ He’s like, ‘No, go your hardest.’ I’m like, ‘Really?’ He’s actually really good. He’s like really, really intense. I’m a little intimidated…He loves debates. Whenever we’re at dinner, he’s looking for a debate. You have to join in and pick a side. I always try to pick an opposite side so it can just be a debate. It’s fun though. I love it…I’m a Miami Heat fan and Dolphins fan. I support the Heat. He supports the Knicks. We always argue about that one.”…Serena on her new house in LA and storing her trophies: “I created a karaoke room, so I can’t put trophies in there. The other area, the gentleman’s lounge, is kinda packed with vintage things I got at a flea market, which is really cool. In Florida, forget it. Venus and I, there’s just no more space. I would love to keep winning them. But we’re like, ‘Oh, what are we going to do with this one?’”…Bored yet?…Hannah Storm and the women at the ESPN sports desk and Chris Fowler — can you make more of Rafael Nadal coming out of the locker room a little late for his match (which turned out to be not his fault)? Geez, talk about a mountain out of a molehill, you guys bored much with all the rain?…Later turned into a PR nightmare for the USTA when Andy Roddick, Rafael Nadal and Andy Murray go straight to the referee’s office after coming off the wet courts to vent at officials…Boy, when Justin Gimelstob doesn’t want to talk about something he can be kind of a dick with the other Tennis Channel announcers…Martina Navratilova says pro tennis should play “lets” rather than replay them — let’s not. Does tennis really need an element of luck introduced into it?…How painful was that Thursday night during the rain delay on ESPN2 putting up with Cliffy and Hannah Storm? Rough…From Tennis.com’s Jonathan Scott on Caroline Wozniacki’s brief light-hearted take on Rafael Nadal’s cramping in a post-match conference: “Reactions around the blogosphere and Twitterverse both largely decried the move, sensing an unforced error from the just-turned-21 Dane. It seems apparent now that her still-faceless new coach doesn’t delve into public relations. She likely meant no offense, but intent is not the same as cause. When snagging one’s first Slam title becomes an odyssey, it’s advisable to lie low. Otherwise she finds herself in this spot: Slammed.” — The blogosphere! The Twitterverse! It’s all over the place! Ooooh, slammed! #1 Jonathan — get over yourself; #2 — get a sense of humor…ESPN’s Darren Cahill: “There’s no strong or visible leadership from the ATP.”…The top players want to form a union after being put out on court at the US Open while it is misting out? Good luck with that, do that. The fact you are ‘pushed around’ to appease the tournament network television partners is the reason you can ask for those paltry $500K-$1 million appearance fees at tournaments like Dubai. We feel for you.”…The last time Andy Roddick and Rafael Nadal played in a Grand Slam, Roddick won 6-0, 6-3, 6-4…How about Pam Shriver interviewing Will Ferrell when Ferrell when into Ron Burgundy mode? Ferrell is the 007 of comedy, licence to kill from anywhere in the stadium…Americans Melanie Oudin and Jack Sock are somehow in the US Open mixed doubles final: “Any Grand Slam final you get to is a great achievement, especially because mixed doubles is probably the last thing I thought I’d get to the final in, personally,” Oudin said. They will meet Gisela Dulko and Eduardo Schwank of Argentina in the final…Unrelated, but if you like Google News, on Thursday you couldn’t get a better headline than “Drunk Moose Gets Stuck in Swedish Apple Tree”Sania Mirza suffered a knee injury during her US Open doubles match this week and may be out for the remainder of the year…Svetlana Kuznetsova on playing Caroline Wozniacki: “She was a wall. To break a wall, you cannot hit hard. You have to mix it up.”…SI.com on how Donald Young “laughingly told how he’d played a game to 21 with Pete Sampras not even a year ago. ‘He beat me,’ Young said. ‘He let me know that wasn’t good. Called me a little princess …’”…Tennis Channel pulled its signal from both Verizon FIOS and Cablevision services in an ongoing dispute over fees and tiered placement of the channel.” — no more endless reruns of Davis Cup and “Best of 5″ for you!…The New York Times reports that many of the “gold badge” top chair umpires have skipped the US Open since it is not worth their time as the USTA makes it the lowest-paying of the top tournaments, resulting in lower-quality umpires in the chairs for big matches.


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59 Comments for Federer Wins Thurs. Late Night, Woz v Serena at US Open

Contemperory Says:

Let me repost what I already posted and what people ignored:Remember, this is about the winning streaks. I hope atleast people like Jane, Swiss Maestro, Madmax could respond.

Regarding the 30 consecutive streak – lets see where Nadal and Djokovic stand. Of course we could eliminate Murray out of the situation because he was out before the US Open QF in 2009 and 2010.

Nadal:
Current QF streak: 8 (From 2009 US open)
Current SF streak: 2 (From 2011 French open)

Djoko:
Current QF streak: 10 (From 2009 Wimbledon)
Current SF streak: 5 (From 2010 Wimbledon)

Considering the record of 23 SF streak, that seems a distant possibility. However, think of the 30 QF streak.Djoko has already reached 10, and judging by the way he is playing, we never know what is going to happen.

30 consecutive QFs literally convert themselves into 7.5 years of playing in the top 8 in the grand slams.Similarly 23 consecutive SFs literally convert themselves into 5.75 years of playing in the top 4 in the grand slams. Now, the question is, which achievement is better? the SF/QF streaks, or the 16 GS titles? Many people say the number of GS titles carries more value.

If we consider the list of possible GOAT candidates – Laver, Sampras, Connors, etc, what do their QF/SF streaks look like?


Joel Says:

What exactly did this post have to do with Federer’s performance tonight? It’s like you wrote this article three hours prior to him taking court, and edited the title after the completion of his match. Of all the shameful things this site has done, this ranks up there. If you want advertising revenue, you need to more than a 30 second job at reporting.


Contemperory Says:

You speak as if all the other posts in other articles exactly belong there. What if I wrote the article before it, I already told I did it – Are you out of your mind? If you don’t want to reply to it, just keep quiet.

All I have asked is a very sensible question, and it is related to tennis.


Skeezerweezer Says:

Staff,

My fav stuff from you guys, “TENNIS-X NEWS, NOTES, QUOTES AND BARBS”

Always great stuff in there, tx :)
—————————————–
“I don’t care what people think and say or do,” said Wozniacki

Love her atitude, it is “mem” like, but her game on court is boring, sorry :(


andrea Says:

nice straight set win for fed. blockbuster of a semi coming up! and congrats to isner…who predicted him being this far? while murray is a more versatile player, john has become a whole lot more agile; and of course those serves have to be taken into consideration…i smell a couple of tiebreaks…

nice for roddick to get to where he is. he doesn’t have as many tools in the box as nadal, but should be a good match.


Ben Pronin Says:

That’s why Tennis Channel has been giving me that weird message? What a load of crap! Perfect timing, too, halfway through the last major of the year. Cool. Maybe next time they’ll just show one match before pulling the plug? What a way to get more people into tennis!


Eric Says:

skeeze, so true…. best part of any post on this site.

Gotta say I am not impressed with Janko for retiring down 0-3 in the final set. Would it have killed him to play another ten minutes? ‘Course, it’s exactly what Nole did a few weeks ago, too.


Eric Says:

Also… the threshold at which the “let” sensor goes off is ridiculously low, as players used to complain. Playing lets per se (as Navratilova suggests) is stupid since the problem could easily be fixed by raising the amount of vibration in the net that counts as a let. Does anyone know why they never do this? How did they decide what amount of vibration makes it a let?


Mila Says:

I agree with Navratilova – lets should be played. It would speed up the game and make it more exciting. Volleyball has done this very change a few years ago, and consensus among both players and viewers is that the game is way better. Another side benefit would be no need for that annoying netcord vibration technology.


Mila Says:

Tipsa played much better than Tsonga today. I am not sure Fed would beat today’s Tipsa in straight sets…
Tsonga looked disinterested, the prime example was not challenging that double fault call that gave Fed 5-3 lead in the third set – unusually passionless performance by Tsonga.


funches Says:

Andrea,

I predicted Isner this far. You could check the inner board and get proof. The guy plays big points as well as anyone on tour now. He doesn’t have enough game to beat Murray, but he’s going to be hard to beat for anyone outside of the top 10 in the next few years.


Eric Says:

Mila, the problem with Navratilova’s suggestion is that there are two kinds of let: there is the kind where the ball is barely, if at all, deflected, and the kind where the ball actually bounces off the net and has its course and speed noticeably or even seriously altered, but still lands in the service box (and so counts as a let rather than a fault).

To start playing the latter type of let would be a hugely bad change to the rules of tennis. Those points would be either won by the server if the ball happens to bounce off the net in a weird way that keeps the receiver from returning it properly, or (probably much more usually, IMO) by the receiver since it would often be easy to return them as un-gettable drops or crazy put-away shots into the corner. The pace at which the ball arrives in the service is one of the most important parts of the serve because it constrains the receiver’s choice of how to return the ball to, basically, one or two shots. These balls could be returned any way they wanted. It would suck.

But I’m sure what Navratilova meant was that the _first_ type of let should be played, i.e. the kind where the casual observer would never have known that there was any contact with the net because the ball isn’t noticeably deflected or slowed down. That’s a reasonable suggestion, but the problem would be establishing the boundary between this kind of let and the other kind of let. All in all, it’s a lot more practical (and fair, but that’s just my opinion) to simply raise the threshold of net-vibration that counts as a let. It’s frustrating when, as so often happens, a player serves what appears to be an ace, only to have them them have to try again because the ball’s speed caused the net to vibrate without even actually touching it. I honestly don’t see why this is so hard for them to get right, but maybe (as with many other things) it’s an issue of spectator vs actually-invovled-in-the-tournament levels of knowledge about the court conditions and such…


Nims Says:

@Mila .. I believe you play as well your opponent lets you to play. I believe Novak was too passive in the 1st two sets, but that was not he case with Roger. You can compare both the matches.


Mila Says:

Eric,
I get your points but still think it’d be cool to play both types of lets. I agree with the facts you stated about the ‘second type’ i.e. sometimes would be unreturnable, and more times very easy to return.
However, I personally like that element of chance, the same way I like when net cord “decides” the point in the middle of a rally.
Again I mention volleyball, after the change happened, all lets slowed serves down but some of them tricked defenders while others made it easier to defenders to organize the counter attack.

I guess it’s a matter of preference.


Eric Says:

Mila, it is indeed a matter of preference. I just think that, already, there is a lot of chance in tennis (weather, the crowds, net cords, balls being in or out by fractions of a centimeter as decreed by Lord HawkEye, …) and so adding in even more opportunities for luck to contribute to the outcome of a match would make the sport less enjoyable. But it’s just my opinion of course. :)


Michael Says:

By the way, Federer has made his 8th consecutive semi-finals at the US Open. I know Lendl made 9 finals at the US Open but they were not consecutive.


Lou Says:

Federer was amazing today and played a much better game than Wimbledon and Rogers Cup:
http://bit.ly/p50zbq: Federer vs Tsonga- Reasons for Federer’s Impressive Win!

He is the only one who looks like ending the streak of Djokovic again!


mat4 Says:

Lou,

I really don’t agree. Tsonga choked like he never did before. Both Roger and Novak are playing worse than they to do most of this year. Roger serves well, though.


Nims Says:

Looks like Rafa is in the best form of all the 4. I doubt anyone can beat him in this USO.


Joshua Says:

I’m kind with Mila and Navratilova on this one — even if some lets are “unplayable” they are certainly no more unplayable than net cords during a rally — which occur, I think, more often than lets. If a let is called on the serve, it should equally be called during the rally. And if a net-cord that lands in the service box is a let, why should one that hops out of the box be a fault? In both cases, it’s a quirk of physics determining whether you get to try your first serve over or face a second serve (or double fault!) since many of these faults would likely be good serves had they cleared the net. I think Navratilova is simply asking for a little consistency in the way we treat the same phenomenon — net cords are treated in three different ways (as playable shots in a rally, as lets if the serve is good and faults if the serve goes astray) and that seems sort of silly.

WTT plays lets, and the quality of play doesn’t seem especially hindered by it.


alison hodge Says:

@nims in ealier rounds i thought that rafa looked the most vulnerable of the top four,however they have all had matches where they have stuggled,and i dont know if this will have any bearing on whatever happens next,but rafas so far still the only one to have got this far without dropping a set.


Dan Martin Says:

Federer’s win last night was significant in that he won at least 20 matches in grand slam play for 8 straight years – http://danmartintennis.wordpress.com/2011/09/09/roger-federer-and-grand-slam-match-wins/ I do think Rafa has a good chance of repeating, but Roddick is going to make this interesting today. Roddick played like a mad man vs. Murray in 2009 when Hewitt said he had no chance. John McEnroe’s perceived disrespect may be the best thing that could happen to Roddick.


Chico Says:

Regarding lets, the problem would be to draw an universal line between a playable and unplayable let that would work in practice, and for the player it would be confusing. Practically you have to tone in to play every ball, just to be interrupted by the machine occasionally. It is probably individual and could be said that it is part of the game, so just learn to cope with it, but it brakes the players rhytm worse than a ball that you can judge with your eyes. Of course the same thing happens when you have to decide wheather to challenge or not, but then it is in front of your eyes, your call.

I’d rather look at it as a demand for more precision in the serve. As the netchords are tight, more often the outcome will be a ‘sitting duck’ for the returner. Thus it is more risky to serve closer to the net and players should develop their serving just a tiny bit accordingly. Playing any game should be about evolving and developing as much as possible, and the rules should support this development.

Actually, considering the last point I’d say I agree with Navratilova. Especially in the crucial points when the hands shake allready, the rule of playing lets would work in the way of making it just a bit tougher for the server. Loosing the electronics would be an added bonus, for some maybe even the best part.

Match point, ad court, sitting duck, crowd hisses, inside out, correct anticipation and an instinctive one handed backhand flip down the line, game set and match, frenzy, wave to the crowd..

Could happen :)!


Brando Says:

Fed played well to win, but he has to improve even more in order to beat nole. Good thing for him is that he most likely knows and can do so, but also crucially I think nole post wimby has not been on the same level as he was during aus, Dubai, Indian wells, Miami time. He seems beatable BUT STILL demands a massive performance in order to beat him. Nole favourite for me still I feel.


Swiss Maestro Says:

contemperory @ 1213:

joel was talking about the original post by tennisx staff, not your post.

coming to your statistics,

federer has the all time record for GS won, GS finals reached, consecutive GS finals (10 in a row, 2nd best also fed =8), consecutive semi-finals, consecutive qfs.

for consecutive semis record, the guy fed over took was lendl at 10 in a row. (so i am assuming, connors, laver, sampras had a lesser number than that.

for consecutive finals record fed’s nearest contenders are agassi, lave =4. fed doubled that no. not once, but twice! (rafa’s record here = 3, novak = 2)

for consecutive qfs, the record is jimmy connor’s 27 but he had skipped one slam in that run ( i donot know why he did not enter) so, in a way the actual consecutive qfs record before federer was lendl with 15. again fed doubled this with 30 consecutive qfs.

and the consecutive qf no.s for nadal should be 9 (after he reached this qf) and not 8 as you mentioned in your post.

The unique thing about the Swiss Maestro is that he has combined dominance, grace/elegance/regal majesty and efficiency (not injury prone taxing game) like no other athlete has done in the history of sport. Most athletes have none of these attributes. Some have one of these. Even fewer have 2 of these, but only one athlete has got all the 3 of them. It guarantees results/entertainment and longevity like no other athlete has displayed!


mmm Says:

I hope Wozniacki does her thing and takes down Serena. Yes, she doesn’t have as much power, but she can grind out a point with the best of them. Why do we place so much emphasis on power anyway?


Swiss Maestro Says:

michael @ 320 :

Lendl made 8 usopen finals on the trot ( a record even federer cannot match). however lendl only won 3 of those 8 finals.

as for fed, 8 consecutive semis at usopen and aussie open. both the records are still active. at wimbledon, fed has 7 consecutive semis. french open, fed has 5 semis in a row. even nadal doesnt have 5 semis in a row at french. nadal has 5 semis in a row at wimbledon but he skipped 2009 wimbledon in between. at USO, nadal can make it 4 consecutive semis in a row by winning against a-rod today. novak has 5 semis in a row at USopen.


Swiss Maestro Says:

mmm @ 905 :

emphasis on power because it is more likely to net you a slam than a passive game.

exhibit A :

delpotro/murray…..

exhibit B :

wozniacki/jankovic against ivanovic.

ofcourse, wozniacki and murray might eventually end up with a GS eventually, but a passive game does not bode for winning GS by the buckets like serena, sampras, federer, nadal, djokovic.

When you play passive tennis, you let your fate rest on the opponents racquet. while that strategy might get you a ton of titles in best of 3 format, over best of 5, a great player will eventually find their hitting and range and steam-roll the defensive player. look at how successful murray/caro are in non GS events. this also means, such style of play also suffers more on the atp tour where GS are best of 5. caro is lucky it is best of 3 for women even in GS. she has a much better chance of winning a GS than murray.

personally though, i think murray will land a wimbledon/uso like hewitt but i cant see him winning more than 2 or 3 slams.


Daniel Says:

Nims “I doubt anyone can beat him in this USO.”

If Djoko reached the final, for a third time, I doubt he will lose, no chance, who ever is over the net.

Reminding, Nadal never defended a title outside of clay. Of course, it will be a major irony if he is to defend the most important hardcourt title as his first, but I still doubt that.
Of the 6 players still in the draw, He is the oone who can lose to any of the others on hard courts. He will have to win 3 tough matchs for this title: Roddick, Murray or Isner (nobody would want to play Isner on a semis ina quick court as this in his country) and than Djoko (the guy who beat him last Slam final) or Fed (which will be very motovated if after Djoko in a court who suits his game like no other), which will be his most difficult Slam to date.
If he acomplished that, man than he will be on tennis heaven!


mrmilbury Says:

If Federer will be able to win against the Djoker I think he will be very motivated against Nadal.
At FO I’ve seen a not usual Federer against Rafa. Most of his nadalite-mental-weakness was gone away. He plays aggressive, width a clear plan, and it was pretty close.
Here, at US OPEN, he has the occasion to prove that at 30 his mental weakness against Nadal has gone.


Nims Says:

Daniel, I believe Nadal is getting to his USO10 form. If that’s the level he plays, I’m not sure Novak can beat him.

I don’t consider Roger to be a contender against Nadal. With the way Murray has been playing, I doubt he can beat any of the Top 3 in a 5-set match.


Skeezerweezer Says:

^ form? Against who? Rafa hasn’t played anybody…..we all knew he had been given a walk of a draw. Rafa will not be challenged until the semis.


alison hodge Says:

you can argue that rafa has not been challenged,but the same could be said of all the top 4 guys,to be honest he was lucky against golubev,and nalby was a good test,it could be possible that rafa is like nims said is finding his form at the right time,any player can only beat whoevers stood in front of them,they are not resposible for the draw.


skeezerweezer Says:

I am not calling sour grapes for Rafa’s draw. He has a fortunate draw. Good for him. What I am saying is that he has not been tested by a quality player….yet. Just my imo.


alison hodge Says:

sw same for all the top four just imo.


madmax Says:

alison hodge, are you serious?

‘you can argue that rafa has not been challenged, but the same could be said of all the top 4 guys, to be honest he was lucky against golubev, and nalby was a good test..? really?

This is the thing that I don’t get here. Firstly, Federer HAS to get past Cilic who of course is no where near his best and so of course ‘shouldn’t’ present a problem to Fed! ? Hello???

This is CILIC, the guy who can bring his A game to any court at any time, who is just, recovering from a major slump in the last 18 months. He was a definite threat.

Secondly, Fed then HAS to get through Tsonga, who is such an excellent player, but of course, because he was ‘off song’, this now doesn’t count.

What exactly is it that Federer HAS to prove? Each time, he plays a top ten player, it ‘doesn’t’ count? I really don’t get the excuses that people make for Fed, saying that ‘he hasn’t been challenged. Can we wake up please?

Federer has had the toughest draw so far at the USO. Nobody, NOT rafa, not Novak and not Murray, want to play Tsonga because he played so well this year. Rafa has had an easier draw. There is nothing wrong with saying that. I am not saying that he hasn’t played well, but you can’t say that his draw has been crazy difficult because it hasn’t. It’s not sour grapes. He is just fortunate this year.

I agree with Skeezer’s comment.


skeezerweezer Says:

alison,

Tsonga? Cilic?

Rafa? Nalby? ranked 76…c’mon. Now he plays a player ranked 21? If Isner happens to win, he’ll play a 28th ranked player…then the final….there is a reason they are ranked yearly, that is how well they are playing overall…..regardless…IF Murray gets through then Rafa we will see how good Rafa is playing. He should play really well since his competition hasn’t been much.


madmax Says:

Contemperory Says:
Let me repost what I already posted and what people ignored:Remember, this is about the winning streaks. I hope atleast people like Jane, Swiss Maestro, Madmax could respond.

Regarding the 30 consecutive streak – lets see where Nadal and Djokovic stand. Of course we could eliminate Murray out of the situation because he was out before the US Open QF in 2009 and 2010.

Nadal:
Current QF streak: 8 (From 2009 US open)
Current SF streak: 2 (From 2011 French open)

Djoko:
Current QF streak: 10 (From 2009 Wimbledon)
Current SF streak: 5 (From 2010 Wimbledon)

Considering the record of 23 SF streak, that seems a distant possibility. However, think of the 30 QF streak.Djoko has already reached 10, and judging by the way he is playing, we never know what is going to happen.

30 consecutive QFs literally convert themselves into 7.5 years of playing in the top 8 in the grand slams.Similarly 23 consecutive SFs literally convert themselves into 5.75 years of playing in the top 4 in the grand slams. Now, the question is, which achievement is better? the SF/QF streaks, or the 16 GS titles? Many people say the number of GS titles carries more value.

If we consider the list of possible GOAT candidates – Laver, Sampras, Connors, etc, what do their QF/SF streaks look like?

September 9th, 2011 at 12:03 am

Swiss Maestro Says:
contemperory @ 1213:

joel was talking about the original post by tennisx staff, not your post.

coming to your statistics,

federer has the all time record for GS won, GS finals reached, consecutive GS finals (10 in a row, 2nd best also fed =8), consecutive semi-finals, consecutive qfs.

for consecutive semis record, the guy fed over took was lendl at 10 in a row. (so i am assuming, connors, laver, sampras had a lesser number than that.

for consecutive finals record fed’s nearest contenders are agassi, lave =4. fed doubled that no. not once, but twice! (rafa’s record here = 3, novak = 2)

for consecutive qfs, the record is jimmy connor’s 27 but he had skipped one slam in that run ( i donot know why he did not enter) so, in a way the actual consecutive qfs record before federer was lendl with 15. again fed doubled this with 30 consecutive qfs.

and the consecutive qf no.s for nadal should be 9 (after he reached this qf) and not 8 as you mentioned in your post.

The unique thing about the Swiss Maestro is that he has combined dominance, grace/elegance/regal majesty and efficiency (not injury prone taxing game) like no other athlete has done in the history of sport. Most athletes have none of these attributes. Some have one of these. Even fewer have 2 of these, but only one athlete has got all the 3 of them. It guarantees results/entertainment and longevity like no other athlete has displayed!

September 9th, 2011 at 9:04 am

Contemperory,

I’ve seen Swiss Maestro’s comment. That’s EXACTLY what I would have said, so he has saved me the trouble!

Additionally, I think Fed’s greatest achievement as been the sheer consistency he has had during his ongoing tennis career, plus the fact that he just keeps proving people wrong. It must really get under his skin, yet he keeps that great fed decorum intact. I don’t know how he does it.

His consistency I think is just unmatched in an illustrious ongoing career, plus, Retirements: 0 is just scary brilliant.

There will never be anyone like Federer so long may he play with that consistency. I just love watching him play.

When Ben is in a better mood, you should ask for his thoughts because when Ben is ‘ON’, he is really good and knows his stuff as is Skeezer, who all know way more than me.


alison hodge Says:

sw like i say lucky against golubev,tricky against nalby,fed against tsonga,tsonga didnt show up,cilic ok for one set,nole not tested till last night against tipsy,nole lucky in that 1st set,muzza only tricky match against hasse.


Eric Says:

Joshua, the difference between a let and a net cord is that lets are easy to replay: you just serve agaian. Big deal. Replaying points that end with net cords would be really ridiculous. Most players – so, everyone except Soderling – pretend to be apologetic when they win points with a net cord because they know it’s largely luck. But they are still legit points – the rules of tennis aren’t and shouldn’t be designed to ensure that every point turns into a great rally that only ends with a winner. The rule against playing lets is there because the serve is (as tennis instructors love to say…) the foundation of the game, not only in the sense they mean (i.e., having a good serve is important) but also because the serve is literally how every point in tennis starts.

Also, fwiw, lets are at least an order of magnitude more common than net cords. Every time you see a player have to serve again when it wasn’t a fault, which happens dozens of times in a match, you know it’s because it was a let, right? Even if it didn’t look like the ball hit the net? Net cords happen probably once per match on average.

///

Skeeze, I don’t think it’s quite fair to say Rafa hasn’t been challenged. People talked about how he blew away Nalbandian, but that was only the second set. The first and third were tight. And Muller played him okay for the first set.

Alison, Rafa’s draw was and has been way easier than the other three. I said when the draw came out that Fed and Murray had really hard routes, Novak had an average one, and Rafa had it quite easy. That’s just true. It turned out that Fed’s was not that bad either since he got to play Monaco instead of Troicki, and then Tsonga beat himself. But Rafa is in the QF and he hasn’t even had to play a seeded player yet. His highest ranked opponent was no 68 Gilles Muller.


skeezerweezer Says:

alison,

I am impressed you have been watching tennis!!! ;)


Eric Says:

“… because the serve is literally how every point in tennis starts.”

And, I meant to add, therefore it makes sense to try to ensure that you only play decent serves. I see no reason to start playing lets, especially the kind that is basically a fault except you happen to get lucky and have it bounce high enough to land in the service box.


skeezerweezer Says:

Eric,

He might have been ( challenged ) but against………..who?

Anyways don’t want to beat the drum anymore…..I accept the other views ;)


skeezerweezer Says:

Is it just me or does it look like David and Goliath out there? And Murray isn’t a short guy :/


alison hodge Says:

thanks skeezer and eric you both make very fare points,i will take your comments on board you both make alot of sense.


alison hodge Says:

i do hope the muzza isner match is not going to be a repeat of the rafa isner match of the fo earlier this year,poor margot and myself will be nervous wrecks.


margot Says:

Hey alison, our little red devil is hot! His first serve percentage is amazing!


Eric Says:

Murray is comfortably, but not imperiously, outplaying Isner. I hate to bring out the old canard, but it looks to me like Andy is playing “passively” and fairly content to just wait for Isner to mess up. It seems like a better strategy would be to more aggressively move him around the court and go for winners. But maybe Andy feels like that could be dangerous since a few bad points could see him BP down, and he knows he can just outplay Isner from the baseline and still win pretty easily. What do you guys think?


alison hodge Says:

hi margot yeah muzzas playing great,i think even if isner wins this 3rd set,i cannot fingers crossed see him loosing this match been two sets up,looks like isner may be struggling physically too,muzza needs to re group,by the way nice pecks,very sexy with the shirt off.


alison hodge Says:

@madmax 12.18pm,i did not mean to discredit roger,or offend any of his fans,and if i have i can only apologize,and if you have read any of my previos posts,you will see i have nothing but admiration for the guy,i too like everybody else on the forum have my favourites,but i also admire and respect everything that every other player has achieved,however large or small,and ok rafas had an easier draw,as you say nothing wrong with admitting that.


madmax Says:

alison hodge, please, no apologies. You are entitled to your opinion. Just don’t agree with it.

My main discussion was with Contemperory and swiss maestro, you can say what you like about roger, makes no difference to me!

Enjoy the match!


alison hodge Says:

thanks madmax i will enjoy the match,you too,please just call me alison.


Swiss Maestro Says:

Hi madmax,

glad to know we are on the same page regarding Rogi!

He needs all the good vibes he can get, tomorrow!

let’s hope our fedex guy delivers tomorrow :)


Golf is barely a Sport Says:

Roddick needed a rowdy night crowd


Golf is barely a Sport Says:

I take that back he needed a miracle


tennisfansince76 Says:

Muzz played very passive today. that is his default comfort mode. he just won’t seem to shake it off. he better not try that junk tomorrow. last year at toronto he played first strike tennis and smoked Nadal


Eric Says:

Didn’t see the match, but from the score… Rafa destroyed Roddick. Other Andy better step onto the court with his very best (especially attitude-wise; that leads to his best tennis) if he wants to do more than not embarrass himself.


contemperory Says:

Thanks to Swiss Maestro and Madmax!

Now on to the blockbuster semis.

It is not very often that these top 4 play together in SFs of slams? The last time was French 2011, and before that was – US Open 2008 I think.

Anyways, great to see that the top four are back to where they should be. It all depends on that particular day – If all of them play their best tennis, it would be hard to predict the winners but the chances of all four playing their best in the SFs are slim.


madmax Says:

Eric,

Murray played magnificently yesterday! It could easily have gone to a fifth set, Isner was brilliant, just more tired on some of the crucial points I felt, but even so, I don’t think anyone could describe Andy has being ‘embarrassing’. He did himself proud. Some of the returns he made yesterday were awesome.

Now on to rafa. That is the question. Can he beat him like he did in 2008? He’s done it before, he can do it again. He says US Open is his favourite slam! So the crowd will be behind him if they read that headline!

Come on Andy!

swiss maestro,

yes looking forward to the match with federer and djokovic. Should be a good one and I expect Roger to put in a great performance and do what he does best, and that’s win! If you look at the stats posted by Lou, fed is on top, so hopefully, he will use this to support his game today and go even further.

C’mon Fed!

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