Djokovic v. Federer Highlight Fab Four US Open Semifinals, Who’ll Win? Serena Closes In
by Sean Randall | September 9th, 2011, 11:27 pm
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For what seems to be the umpteenth time, the Fab Four – Novak Djokovic, Rafael Nadal, Roger Federer and Andy Murray – are back into a major tennis tournament semifinal.

Actually, it’s the sixth time this quartet has filled a Final Four (most recently at the French Open) and surprisingly the only one of the four yet to win the title when that happens is Djokovic. But I think that changes soon enough.

Today in the final two US Open men’s quarterfinals, things went according to form. Murray got on top of John Isner early then held off the valiant American 7-5, 6-4, 3-6, 76(2). I have to give a lot of credit to Isner who played such a long match yesterday in his win over Gilles Simon. Big John could have easily withered away in that third set but he kept at it nearly forcing a fifth set.

“I thought it was a really high standard today,” Murray said. “I thought I played really well. I hit the ball very clean from the back of the court. You know, when he’s serving you have no option other than to just try and get yourself in the rallies. You’re under a lot of pressure on your own service games, so you don’t want to just be rash and start trying to make huge winners or do anything stupid. You know, I didn’t give him too many opportunities to break me and did a good job on my own serve.”

While Isner showed he still had a little bit of fuel left, Andy Roddick had none in his quarterfinal against Nadal. And if you play Nadal without fresh legs you are in big trouble as evidenced by Rafa’s 6-2, 6-1, 6-3 win.

“I think I started the match really well with some very good points, few very good passing shots,” said Nadal who is the only player yet to lose a set. “I think he was tired because the match of yesterday. You know how tough it is to play best of five two days in a row, and he played against very difficult opponent like David yesterday.”

Roddick had won a tight four-setter yesterday over Ferrer which drained his tank.

“I had zero reserves,” Roddick admitted. “I didn’t have any time to train this summer, so playing a tough match like yesterday I felt I played a four setter yesterday; I felt like I played six sets. Came out today and I just couldn’t you know, I was trying to push up on serves, and I felt like I was falling over as opposed to pushing up. Just didn’t have much.”

So the Saturday dream semifinals are set: Djokovic v. Federer followed by Murray v. Nadal. What an awesome way to close the summer.

Novak Djokovic v. Roger Federer
The only disappointment to me about this matchup is that it’s on first at noon because this is the clash everyone wants to see. And for Federer, after two late night finishes it’s his first match under sunlight in a week!

Djokovic’s had his great season spoiled really only by Federer’s four set win over him on the clay in Paris. So the Serb will have revenge on his mind – and we’ve seen how many players have successfully avenged earlier losses the last few days (theme?!?!).

Federer is out to prove that he can still win Slams. The Swiss reached the finals in Paris but otherwise has been a virtual no-show in Slam championship bouts since his 2010 Australian Open triumph. And Federer will also have a little bit of revenge on his platter for the loss he took to Djokovic in the US Open semifinals last year.

Overall, Federer leads their series 14-9 but Djokovic has won three of four this year including an Australian Open semifinal victory.

What’s great is both players come in playing good tennis. Djokovic’s probably played better earlier this season, but he’s only lost one set – that in a tiebreaker – and comes in fresh and healthy, though a little concerned about his game play.

“I think I need to step on the court in next match (against Federer) and just be close to the line, be more aggressive,” Novak said. “I think the last two matches I have been starting very slow. I’m very passive.”

Federer is arguably playing his best tennis of his year after sweeping past Juan Monaco and JW Tsonga this week. So he should be feeling extremely confident and up for the challenge of taking on Novak.

“These last two weeks he’s had a pretty easy trip to the semis,” Federer said. “Me too. I have been very dominant in my matches. I hope I can take all the confidence I have been able to build here during this tournament and use it against Novak. I’m looking forward to it. Like I said, it’s always a great matchup between the two of us. We’ve played over 20 times, I think. So there is no real secrets out there. We have had particularly good matches here at the US Open, and I have the feeling it’s going to be something similar again.”

With Federer playing so well and Djokovic’s season, it’s tough to feel good about a pick. But I’m sticking with Djokovic here. Federer has clearly lifted his game again at the US Open this week, but I think the slower court on Ashe will help Novak get to more of Fed’s shots. Nobody right now is turning defense into offense better than Djokovic and I think that’s what he’ll do tomorrow. Get Roger’s balls back and attack on anything short, working Federer’s backhand and then finishing with that deadly backhand down the line.

That said, I still give Federer a chance if he serves well and finds his baseline rhythm, especially his backhand. Federer will also have the crowd and the experience on his side – he’s beaten Novak three of four times in NY. But in the end I just think Djokovic has too much game right now and the cards, the numbers, the momentum and really everything is pointing in his favor.

The pick: Djokovic in four.

Andy Murray v. Rafael Nadal
For me, this match is the tougher pick of the two. Nadal is the defending champion and after a shaky start to the tournament he really got him game humming the last two days. But in Murray tomorrow he plays a totally different animal than Gilles Muller or Andy Roddick.

That said, Murray’s biggest problem is himself. He just can’t seem to close the deal. At Wimbledon he was up big on Nadal but couldn’t get it done. And we’ve seen it before from him at the Grand Slams. So can you trust him?

Like Nadal, Murray has also turned up his game. The Scot who should have been back home a week ago at the hands of Robin Haase, has only lost three sets – two of them to the Dutchman – and he’s won 10 straight matches when you include Cincinnati. So outside of the Haase hump, he’s been on song.

In their series it’s been all Nadal leading 12-4. Murray got wins in the 2008 US Open semifinals, again in 2009 and twice in 2010. But Rafa’s won all three this year, though they’ve been much closer than expected.

“I need to serve well, and then try and be patient from the back of the court but dictate the points when I can,” Murray said of his gam eplan against Nadal. “The serve is very important against him. If you can get free points on your serve and you can like hold comfortable service games, you can put pressure on him that way. But if you’re not, then you have to play a lot of rallies. He obviously doesn’t make many mistakes and his ball is very heavy, so that makes it tough.”

While a lot of the data points to another Nadal win, I’m sticking with my pre-tournament final pick Murray here.

Rafa’s had so many issues this summer from losing No. 1, injuring his foot, burning his fingers, cramping during press conferences, bad scheduling, etc., that I think eventually it all catches up to him. For me, that happens Saturday.

Nadal’s also not playing as well as he was a year ago. He’s not serving as well and maybe even not moving like he did. So I’m just a little skeptical.

The pick: Murray in four.

As for the women’s semifinals, I think Serena beats Wozniacki in a match that’s much closer than people think. I’ll also pick Sam Stosur over the Cinderella Angelique Kerber. Serena’s too close now to let this one slip.

CBS will again have live coverage starting at noon.

US OPEN SATURDAY SCHEDULE

Arthur Ashe Stadium 12:00 PM Start Time
Novak Djokovic (SRB)[1] v. Roger Federer (SUI)[3]
Not Before:2:45 PM
Andy Murray (GBR)[4] v. Rafael Nadal (ESP)[2]

Arthur Ashe Stadium 7:00 PM Start Time
1. Women’s Singles – Semifinals
Caroline Wozniacki (DEN)[1] v. Serena Williams (USA)[28]

Grandstand 6:00 PM Start Time
Angelique Kerber (GER) v. Samantha Stosur (AUS)[9]


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974 Comments for Djokovic v. Federer Highlight Fab Four US Open Semifinals, Who’ll Win? Serena Closes In

Gregoire Gentil Says:

Caro Serena will go three sets. And in the third, Serena will be tired plus Caro won’t give up. Go Caro!!!!


Fed is God Says:

Murray through thrash Rafa and bow down to Federer in the finals.


Craig Says:

Rafa had an easy outing against Roddick.
How lucky Federer was to have to face Roddick in so many of his GS finals wins.


felix Says:

Good argument, Sean, would love to see Murray play Djokovic too, he is too good to be waste,but, i think it will be Djokovic play Nadal, is like nadal cath up alot lately, in a good way, but, this semifinal line up is amazing, is to close to call, but, hope you are right abuot this one


WTF Says:

Can we just hand the trophy to Djokovic now? It’s a foregone conclusion anyway.

As long as he doesn’t get injured he has enough time in his career to reach double digit slams, and even a calendar year grand slam is not out of the question.


Michael Says:

To be quite honest it is difficult to make predictions when the contest is between the top four as there is very little margin to bridge. As regards Federer and Djokovic it is a toss-up with the edge to Djokovic. While in the case of Nadal-Murray I can’t make out who is the favourite just because of yesterday’s match of Nadal against Roddick when he just decimated him. Accepted that Roddick had tiresome issues after a long match. Yet the way Nadal dispatched Roddick seems to indicate that he is in menacing form. Ofcourse Murray has all the ingredients to trouble the elites. But the question is whether his mental make-up will stand up to the test of time ? It is tough to predict but although my heart says Murray, my mind says Nadal. I would love to have a Federer-Nadal final, but I do not mind having Djokvoic-Nadal final too which also must be quite entertaining with Djokovic having made a name for himself. If it is Djokovic Vs Nadal in the final, then I would say thumbs up for Djokovic.


Eric Says:

“Federer is arguably playing his best tennis of his year after sweeping past Juan Monaco and JW Tsonga this week. So he should be feeling extremely confident and up for the challenge of taking on Novak.”

You might argue that, but only if you’re an ignoramus who hasn’t watched Federer play at the French Open. I’m also not convinced he is any better than he was at the AO, and he looked great – really, really great – at Wimbledon until Tsonga steamrolled him.


WTF Says:

Michael: “To be quite honest it is difficult to make predictions when the contest is between the top four as there is very little margin to bridge. As regards Federer and Djokovic it is a toss-up with the edge to Djokovic.”

It’s not a toss up. Federer beat him here at the same stage of the same venue 12 months ago, and followed it up with a straight sets win in Australia a few months later. Federer is a year older now at 30 and not even as good as he was 12 months ago, which already was far from his lofty heights. Nole on the other hand has improved by leaps and bounds in the past 12 months.

The loss to Federer at the French was a genuine upset, but that was on a different surface. It’s not that relevant here.

Can Federer beat Nole? Yes, it is possible. But it isn’t a “toss-up” which implies 50-50. I think 75-25 or 80-20 sounds more realistic barring an unforeseen injury.

This will not be a contest. That’s my call.

Murray-Nadal will be much harder to call. The surface favors Murray, but Nadal has a winning head to head. Murray beat him here when they played in 2008, and has beaten him twice at the Australian Open. In none of those matches did Nadal look remotely close to winning. But mentally he is sometimes known to go away in big matches. Anything can happen here, and if there was a “toss-up” it would be this one.

I say Nole has a 75-80% chance against Roger, 90% chance against Rafa, and 85% chance against Murray. If not for the defeat to Murray in Cincy he’d be a 99% chance against Murray.

Djokovic’s 2011-2014 will be Federer’s 2004-2007 or even better. He will make the finals or better of every slam and he will break the ATP1000 titles record held by Nadal in short time.

I say this with complete impartiality. He is not my favorite player in the top 4. But he’s proven himself already. The only thing that can stop him now is injury. If he was as good in 2004-2007 as he is now, Federer would not be holding 16 grand slams in his cabinet (I’d say he’d be lucky to have 8). It would have been a very interesting 4 years on the ATP tour.


WTF Says:

CORRECTION: “It’s not a toss up. Federer beat him here at the same stage of the same venue 12 months ago, and followed it up with a straight sets win in Australia a few months later.”

When I said “Federer” I meant “Djokovic”.


tennisfansince76 Says:

@Michael Nadal was average Nadal today no more no less. just because he beat up on a weakened Roddick does not mean much. Roddick did well to get to the qtrs.


Eric Says:

WTF, I guess your crystal ball is really good if you can already see that Djokovic will only lose 2 matches a year until 2014. LOL.

In case you hadn’t noticed, he’s already back to earth. His form is outstanding – at least as good as it was last year at this time, I suppose – but nowhere near the way he was playing in March or June. Will he rise again? Maybe. But we’ll just have to come back to the issue in 2014 and see how well he lived up to your extravagant predictions. My guess is not really.


Eric Says:

Also, Djokovic was barely a player on the tour until 2008 so what are you even mentioning 2004-2007 for? That’s like saying “if only X were as good in 2013 as he was in 2020, Nole would only have five slams!” in a few years, where “X” happens to be whoever the really hot player in 2020 is. Idiotic.


tennisfansince76 Says:

@WTF we’ll see. Djokovic has certainly looked superlative thru Wimby but since then has shown some weakness. the tennis season is a grind and being able to maintain that peak thru the whole year is difficult. we’ll see if Nole can maintain his level tomorrow. i’m a fed fan and the one thing i really care about is that whoever comes thru is ready and able to put a beat down on Nadal


WTF Says:

Eric, I’ve just never seen such a dominant display all season round from anyone, including Federer in his best years. Two defeats into September?

Previously, it was asthma or fatigue that got him. He found himself panting and taking deep breaths after a set and a half. This was a guy who retired against Federer with a “sore throat”. He was known to do things like that.

Now, not only has he found a miracle cure to asthma and breathing problems, he looks like he can play the finals of every tournament and still not be tired. I don’t know what he did in his off season, but his transformation is unlike anything I’ve ever seen.

He’s beaten the best player on clay on clay twice (and in 3 other big finals), something not many can be expected to do. He destroyed Federer in Australia. And he looks like he will do it again.

Whenever I look up explanations for how he did it, the best I can find is some “gluten free” diet he switched to. No, I don’t think he is taking PEDs (if he was, we’d know already). I just want to know his secret. Normally when people elevate to the level of this, it happens gradually, not overnight.

If giving up gluten can do this for you, I think every player will go gluten free from here on.

Djokovic will win the next two matches in 4 sets.

“WTF, I guess your crystal ball is really good if you can already see that Djokovic will only lose 2 matches a year until 2014. LOL. ”

Not necessarily only two. Maybe up to 4. But the most slam matches I can see him losing is 1 or 2. The other 2 matches he loses will be insignificant ones that he won’t lose any sleep over.

Again, I did put a qualifier on this: injury. If he doesn’t get injured, he will win 3 or 4 slams a year. A 2 slam year would be considered a disappointment for him. Fatigue will not stop him, and neither will a player. Someone new would need to rise up to his challenge, and that would take time. I don’t even know who of the current youngsters has the talent to do it. Bernard Tomic I don’t think is that player but he’s the best I can think of.

“In case you hadn’t noticed, he’s already back to earth. His form is outstanding – at least as good as it was last year at this time, I suppose – but nowhere near the way he was playing in March or June. Will he rise again? Maybe. But we’ll just have to come back to the issue in 2014 and see how well he lived up to your extravagant predictions. My guess is not really.”

His “earth” form is already too much to handle for anyone else so I don’t really see why it would matter. If he does play at that level and stay there, he won’t be beaten unless he wants to be. I think it was clear that when he pulled out against Murray in Cincy, he was not actually injured. He could have continued playing and won. But he tweaked something and didn’t want to risk it, being this close to the US Open. I was skeptical that he’d picked up any real injury. He was just being overly cautious. Had it not been the eve of the US Open, he would have continued playing. Murray was gifted that one.


WTF Says:

Eric Says:

“Also, Djokovic was barely a player on the tour until 2008 so what are you even mentioning 2004-2007 for? That’s like saying “if only X were as good in 2013 as he was in 2020, Nole would only have five slams!” in a few years, where “X” happens to be whoever the really hot player in 2020 is. Idiotic.”

I’m aware of that. It was a hypothetical. Surely you’ve seen those before? People comparing Federer at his best against Sampras in his heyday? It obviously couldn’t have happened since they were of different eras, but it doesn’t stop people from speculating “what if”.

Of course Nole couldn’t possibly have been as good in 04-07 as he is today. The point I was trying to make which you missed was that the game he has today is on par or better than the game Federer had when he was winning 3 slams a year. For that reason, I can compare him with players of any era, including ones in which he wasn’t yet born, and future eras where he will have retired.

I would say the same thing about Pete’s 14 slams if Federer was the same age as Pete. That doesn’t mean it’s possible for it to happen. It is nothing more than a hypothetical.


Skeezerweezer Says:

Think you guys pretty much called it for tomorrow. Nole should win(hoping for a Fed upset though) and imo Murray / Rafa is to close to call.

One things for sure, we all know who most Rafa fans are cheering for tomorrow, Go Rog, your so the bestest ! ;)


Eric Says:

“I think it was clear that when he pulled out against Murray in Cincy, he was not actually injured. He could have continued playing and won.”

This is pretty much 100% proof that you’re trolling, or no smarter than a troll. He was just 3 games away from losing a match Murray had an increasingly firm handle on.

(Sidebar: Also, you can’t have it both ways — was he uninjured, and thus playing at full physical capacity? If so, Murray beat him rather easily, for someone you adulate so extravagantly.)

You missed my point, which is that taking a six month stretch of unreal tennis and carrying on as if it’s already lasted for four years, and then retrojecting that (totally unrealistic) hypothetical onto an actual past to compare Nole’s (hypothetical) great four years with Federer’s (actual) great four years, is stupid. Maybe if and when Djokovic has actually lived up to your expectations – which he won’t, on which more in a second – we can start comparing Djokovic’s sustained best to Roger’s sustained best, but you can’t completely make up the future and then, pretending that it’s already happened, compare it to the past. At least not meaningfully.

Now, on to why I don’t think Nole’s future is as bright as you think. Djokovic’s 2 losses so far this season has been due in large part to his fantastic, rollercoaster-like, rise in form from January through June. But you have no real warrant to suppose that he will continue to play at that level for another 3 years.

More importantly, part of it has also – and I know you are going to disagree, but at least hear me out – been due to chance. First of all, Rafa has been slumping this year, and not just against Djokovic. Federer almost beat him – should have beat him, and I don’t think I’m being biased – at RG; that right there tells you that Rafa was far from his best.

Second, Nole hasn’t had to play Andy M much. Yes, he beat him in the AO final, and then again in Rome, but that turned out to be a really close match – tiebreaker in the third set. And then Andy beat him in Cincinnati, fair and square even if you think Novak could have somehow come back from a set and 0-3 down to win. So clearly, Andy M is a very dangerous opponent for even Djokovic’s very best form.

Third, we’re living in a golden era for tennis – if you look at the top four. But this year, the lower echelons of the top 20 have been in flux as old stalwarts fall down the rankings. On January 10, 2011, Andy Roddick was still t he world no 8. Now he’s 21 or whatever, which is what he deserves (this USO notwithstanding). Verdasco, Youzhny, Melzer, Cilic, Querrey – the list of top 20 players as on Jan 10 who have fallen way out of the top 20 (okay, Verdasco is still 19 but not for long) as their 2011 form has slumped goes on and on.

Soderling, who was very dangerous in 2010, is still the world no. 6 even though he has barely made an impression this year. Ferrer hasn’t done much since fairly early in the season, and he’s actually risen in the rankings. Berdych has only slid 3 spots.

That’s all because no one else has risen up to take their places. There are people who are rising up – Raonic, maybe, Dolgopolov, even Tipsarevic – but they aren’t there yet. Most of the space has been filled by somewhat-improved but still too-inconsistent-to-make-a-mark old faces: Gasquet, Simon.

Del Potro. Is he on his way back up? If so, your hypothetical land of Serbian milk and honey is in jeopardy.

Basically, what I’m saying is this. Djokovic’s form has improved enormously, really, really dramatically, on 16 months ago. BUT, part of the explanation for JUST how good his season has been, also lies in the relative lack of competition: the guard is changing, and more all at once than usual. Federer is getting old (although: the match at RG was no upset. It wasn’t even that close, in the sense that, even though the scoreline was quite close, Federer was in control for the entire match except for the set he lost), Rafa for some reason has not been up to par (although: I am also prepared to consider that maybe he has been playing as well as ever, but his game doesn’t match up with New Nole very well, much as Fed’s doesn’t match up with his), and Djokovic has gotten lucky in escaping Murray.


Eric Says:

And, look, it’s also perfectly possible that Djokovic will indeed go on to win 2-3 slams a year for the next couple of years. That would be extraordinary, and I’d love to see it. But it’s far from being a history already written, and I think there are powerful reasons to think that (whether Nole stays no. 1 or not) the tennis pie will be a lot more equitably divided in 2012 and on than it has been so far in 2011.


Michael Says:

WTF, I do not agree with your contention that Djokovic did not make a mark between 2004-2007. Djokovic came into the scene sometime around 2005 and for in the next years he consistently made a mark in grand slam events reaching the Semis, Quarters only losing to the likes of Federer, Nadal etc. Ofcourse he could not dominate then as he is doing now. But he was an upcoming player who held much promise and many Commentators predicted that he will be the future of Tennis even more than Nadal. Somehow things did not go his way and he managed to come second best in many of the majors where he managed to reached the final stage. Moreover, he continued to hover around the top Three for a long while. His turning point came in the 2008 Australian Open when he beat Federer and also went on to win the tournament. It is in 2011 he stamped his class as a player beating Nadal five times a row which is no mean achievement. And two of those were on Nadal’s favourite surface and in straight sets. It is a feat when even Federer could not achieve and I admire Djokovic for that. I am sure the Nadal Fans will be rooting for Federer more than Djokovic just because they know that Nadal has mental problems against Djokovic considering his consecutive defeats whereas against Federer he is more confident due to the bad match up. If Nadal has something to prove, he has to reach the finals and win against Djokovic.


Michael Says:

Eric, we can all endlessly speculate just like if X met Y often he would not have managed to win etc. etc. Alas what matters in the end is what is on the table. If Murray couldn’t managed to reach the finals of Masters series events and Majors it is not Djokovic’s fault. We all know how Djokovic demolished Murray at the Australian Open finals. Therefore, let us set aside our spectulation. At the moment, Djokovic is playing incredible Tennis difficult to dislodge. To know about Djokovic’s prowess just look at his recent matches against Nadal where the latter is scampering for cover. I have never seen Nadal in such a sorry State against any player.


Eric Says:

“Therefore, let us set aside our spectulation. ”

But that’s exactly what WTF and I are doing: speculating.

And you missed the point if you thought I was trying to detract from Djokovic’s 2011 or make it seem like didn’t “deserve” all his wins.


Ben Pronin Says:

“No, I don’t think he is taking PEDs (if he was, we’d know already)”

LMFAO


nadalista Says:

@michael says:
“If Nadal has something to prove, he has to reach the finals and win against Djokovic.”

Nadal has dang all to prove………….all he wants is to be in the final, play well and lift the effing trophy……………could be Rog, Novak or a cold brass monkey across the net from him for all he cares………….


madmax Says:

‘Federer is out to prove that he can still win Slams. The Swiss reached the finals in Paris but otherwise has been a virtual no-show in Slam championship bouts since his 2010 Australian Open triumph’.

A virtual no-show?

Semi finals in Australia? Quarter Finals in Wimbledon? Finals in RG? Now semis in USO?

A virtual no-show? Crap.

I am probably the only one who thinks Federer can do it.

I have seen him play some brilliant tennis this tournament. I don’t see any reason why this can’t continue. Federer is always under the radar these days even when he plays great tennis and when he does play great tennis, it’s still in the eyes of some, mediocre.

Roger can do it. He is coming into the zone and still has the momentum from the Tsonga match.

He is the only one to have truly beaten Novak this year. He’ll do it again.

It could go to a tiebreaker for one of the sets, but I think Roger has acclimatised himself very nicely on the slower courts despite his initial reservations. He’s handled the rain delays really well and I remember last year it was said he played his best tennis during the night sessions?

But this year it is the complete opposite?

People need to make their minds up, which way the wind blows with Federer?

I don’t think the match up for rafa yesterday is anything to go by when he played Roddick. Rafa has not played with the same confidence he did last year. Roddick was spent even before he walked on the court (and that was said before Roddick’s news conference.

I think Murray played an amazing match against Isner yesterday. Murray looks ripped, his whole body, very powerful and strong. Red suits him, he should wear it more often! I hope that he believes in himself more and doesn’t pay rafa too much respect. I think this is Murray’s problem. Not his game.

He surely has to try some new tactics because I believe Murray is a better hard court player than rafa, he just talks himself down. Murray has to talk himself up and be the player he was in 2008. I watched that recently, Murray had a steely grimmace on his face the whole way through.

I don’t think his match was exhausting against Isner yesterday, I think Murray played with more confidence than ever before. He can do it again today, but whether he will is down to his mental belief against rafa.

He needs to pull some ‘I can do it’ faces on court.


pinokiss Says:

When comparing player’s game, one need to include that other players play better too. So on that assumption – Federer of 2011 would beat Federer of 2004-07 because he is better player (when he is on). Djokovic also, players starting to exploit his game so his wins will be more difficult as time goes by.


Dory Says:

Federer, Nadal and Djokovic really have a rock-paper-scissors situation and everyone knows it. The most danger Djokovic faces/is likely to get defeated is from Federer. Likewise, Federer can’t hold a candle to Nadal most of the times and Nadal just can’t win against the new Djokovic. Let’s HOPE Djokovic wins against Federer or else we can just hand over the trophy to Nadal.


Lou Says:

Guys check this out and you can see for yourself who will win the SF tomorrow:
Federer just has to focus on his serve and returns whereas if Djoko can focus on his first serve, he can really win!

Federer Vs Djokovic- What Does Stats Have To Say?http://bit.ly/o8spaD


Lou Says:

Guys check this out and you can see for yourself who will win the SF tomorrow:
Federer just has to focus on his serve and returns whereas if Djoko can focus on his first serve, he can really win!

Federer Vs Djokovic- What Does Stats Have To Say?

http://bit.ly/o8spaD


Eric Says:

Dory, that is a brilliant analogy. But it leaves out Murray: I am reminded of my (rather silly) friend from high school, a long time ago now, who would occasionally deploy what he dubbed “Jesus in an F16″ during rock-paper-scissors. (Jesus, of course, beats everything, at least when he is flying an F16. But only if onlookers could be persuaded that it was a sufficiently amusing variant on RPS…)


blah Says:

me thinks it’ll be the last federer against nadal. just a hunch.


margot Says:

Really hoping for a Nolandy final, but in truth more confident of the Nole bit. Fed’s serve will have to be working extra specially well against one of the best returners out there.
Come on my little Red Devil! You’ve got the skills, use them! Flipping focus for the WHOLE match for a change. None of this negative stuff, do you hear?
And of course…may your serve be with you :)
But, oh no, do I see that Sean has jinxed Andy…;)


WTF Says:

Eric:

“(Sidebar: Also, you can’t have it both ways — was he uninjured, and thus playing at full physical capacity? If so, Murray beat him rather easily, for someone you adulate so extravagantly.)”

He had a niggle, but not an injury. If it was serious, he wouldn’t be playing at the US Open. I will give you that he wasn’t 100%, but not serious enough to retire for any reason other than precautionary.

He didn’t try that hard to come back. If you’re up 3-0 in a set against Djokovic, it’s an even match. If he levels it a set apiece, you are not favorite.

“You missed my point, which is that taking a six month stretch of unreal tennis and carrying on as if it’s already lasted for four years, and then retrojecting that (totally unrealistic) hypothetical onto an actual past to compare Nole’s (hypothetical) great four years with Federer’s (actual) great four years, is stupid.”

All right. I can see that you may find it premature to assume he’ll continue this form. Keep in mind that after 2004 when the comparisons between Federer and Sampras began in full force, everyone said the same thing then about Federer also.

I just don’t see any signs of stopping for Djokovic other than injury. I can’t see someone rising up to the challenge, certainly not an existing player. It would take a loss of confidence on Nole’s part if he doesn’t get injured, and I’m not really sure what could start this since he’s been winning just about everything. Maybe a heartbreaking loss of some sort when he is a point away from winning?

“Maybe if and when Djokovic has actually lived up to your expectations – which he won’t, on which more in a second – we can start comparing Djokovic’s sustained best to Roger’s sustained best, but you can’t completely make up the future and then, pretending that it’s already happened, compare it to the past. At least not meaningfully.”

Did you think the same thing about Federer after 2004? I’m forecasting a future based on past trends. It’s not foolproof but if I was to make predictions it’s the only way I know how. The only way to never be wrong when making predictions is to not say anything at all. I’m not a wimp though. I call it how I see it, and if I’m wrong I’m wrong.

I can’t predict an existing player toppling him. Federer is 30, and as for Nadal.. after 5 defeats on all surfaces this year, his time of challenging for important titles is over. He’ll fight for any scraps that Nole leaves on the table. And I can’t assume that someone I’ve never heard of is going to do it either.

I would once again like to emphasize that Nole is not my favorite player, but I’m just being as honest and realistic as I can. What else will it take to stop Nole other than injury? Is he going to stop himself? How?

I would like someone to pose a challenge to him, but I just can’t see it happening.

“Now, on to why I don’t think Nole’s future is as bright as you think. Djokovic’s 2 losses so far this season has been due in large part to his fantastic, rollercoaster-like, rise in form from January through June. But you have no real warrant to suppose that he will continue to play at that level for another 3 years.”

You’re justified in thinking that but it’s not a bad roller coaster if your only “dips” are a defeat to Federer on arguably your worst surface and a defeat against Murray in a final when you supposedly were hampered physically, it’s not much to be concerned about. It wasn’t until he defeated Nadal at Wimbledon (a result I only semi-expected) that I got this confident about his future.

Can he continue that roller coaster? I like to think that people don’t just forget how to play. Federer’s decline was due to age not a loss of ability to make shots or hit his mark. Injury and subsequent time off is what takes confidence away. It happens to Nadal and it happened to all great players who never refound their form. I don’t know off the top of my head any player who dominated one year and then went away unless they got injured.

I think I’m just repeating myself here, but what would it take for him to not continue his form?

“More importantly, part of it has also – and I know you are going to disagree, but at least hear me out – been due to chance. First of all, Rafa has been slumping this year, and not just against Djokovic. Federer almost beat him – should have beat him, and I don’t think I’m being biased – at RG; that right there tells you that Rafa was far from his best. ”

I’ll acknowledge that chance was possible. Rafa could have won some of those matches he lost. But the more matches they played, the more it seemed to skew in Nole’s favor. Rafa took defeats this year to opponents other than Nole, but so does he every year. I just don’t think his game matches up to Nole’s any more. What used to work doesn’t. Nole’s defense and speed have improved incredibly. He gets everything back and now makes Rafa hit closer to the lines and draws the error out of him. This is something Rafa used to do to other players and now he’s being given a dose of his own medicine. In the past when Nole tried to play like this he’d get tired and be unable to keep it up. His newfound fitness has seen to that problem.

Much used to be said of Rafa’s quickness around the court and unrelenting defensive skills, but dare I say it, he has been outmatched and outclassed. Beaten in his own game. Nole is actually faster than he is now, and I wouldn’t have believed it myself until this year. He’s getting beaten on his best surface (where he was regarded as more or less untouchable), and even resorted to using moonballs against Nole because he had no other answers.

Nole has raised the bar clearly, and Rafa has failed to keep up.

Murray is another explosive talent, but let’s be honest. Mentally, he is the weakest of the top four. I remember him once getting destroyed by Nadal in Indian Wells because of some flying plastic bag swirling about in the wind that he couldn’t get out of his mind even long after it was removed from the court. He lets little things that shouldn’t matter get in his head and has trouble letting go of them. His record against Federer was once a one sided one, but even then when you looked at his defeats they all came in big, important matches. i.e. The grand slams. His record in sets won at grand slam finals (the most important matches you can ever play) is 0/9. That to me suggests he will be a perennial bridesmaid who can only claim the big prizes when they’re gifted to him by lady luck.

Del Potro has been struggling to find his 2009 form after recovering from injury (again, the only thing I can see stopping Nole) but he is probably the most promising of the current crop of players. If he can play as good as he did at the US Open 2009 where he beat Nadal (2, 2, and 2) and Federer back to back, I think he is the closest thing you can call a competitor. At least in matches that count.

“your hypothetical land of Serbian milk and honey is in jeopardy.”

Out of the top 4 players, the player I root for most is Rafa, and then Roger, which is why it pains me so much to write this. I promise you, I don’t drink Serbian milk although I do have a great deal of respect and admiration for what Nole has achieved this year and also for the way he carries himself in interviews. If I’m wrong about him and Rafa wins more slams it will be the best thing I’ve ever been wrong about.

Out of curiosity, which player do you support most?


WTF Says:

Michael Says:

“WTF, I do not agree with your contention that Djokovic did not make a mark between 2004-2007. Djokovic came into the scene sometime around 2005 and for in the next years he consistently made a mark in grand slam events reaching the Semis, Quarters only losing to the likes of Federer, Nadal etc. Ofcourse he could not dominate then as he is doing now.”

I clarified what I meant by this later. I should have rephrased it. No I don’t fault Nole for not being able to stop the mighty Fed in 04-07. What I should have said was, if the 24 year old Novak Djokovic had a time machine and went back to 2004, TMF would not have been able to win 3 slams a year. This is nothing more than conjecture of course since it’s impossible.

It is equivalent to comparing players from different eras for example Federer and Sampras, or Sampras and Laver. There are critics of those who do that. These critics would say you can’t compare players across different eras because the technology is different. They have a point. Except in the case of Djokovic 11 and Federer 04-07, they aren’t really in different eras. Both are contemporaries and that is why you may have been confused by what I was trying to say.

What I’m really doing is comparing the Djokovic of today against the Federer of yesteryear, the same way Federer gets compared to Sampras, except in this case the gap between the two players in time is not so long. I wasn’t comparing the Djokovic of 04-07 to the Federer of 04-07 because clearly Djokovic was still and up and comer at the time.

Ben Pronin Says (with respect to PEDs):

“LMFAO”

Okay you’re entitled to your opinion, but I don’t believe in magic. What goes in has to come out, somehow. WADA is extremely stringent when it comes to testing, so much so that if they imposed their regulations on me, I’d call it a breach of privacy. Athletes get caught doping for far less things than PEDs. Contaminated samples, or something that came from flu medicine have been reported. Any top athlete that would try some new fangled PED is taking a big risk IMO, and I think they’re stupid if they do it.


WTF Says:

Dory Says:

“Federer, Nadal and Djokovic really have a rock-paper-scissors situation and everyone knows it. The most danger Djokovic faces/is likely to get defeated is from Federer. Likewise, Federer can’t hold a candle to Nadal most of the times and Nadal just can’t win against the new Djokovic. Let’s HOPE Djokovic wins against Federer or else we can just hand over the trophy to Nadal.”

As opposed to just handing the trophy over to Nole as though that is somehow better? The way you’ve put the RPS triangle, Federer just can’t win the title can he?

He couldn’t beat Nole 12 months ago, he can’t now. Nole has improved since then, Federer has regressed. He’s currently at the tail end of his career and it’s not going to get better for him from here on.


Eric Says:

WTF,

It seems what we disagree on is whether Nole will continue to dominate as ridiculously as he has year. I don’t, because I think it is “unnatural” for one player to win 95%+ of their matches in a year. You do, because you see his improvement in form as real, durable, and absolutely comprehensive. I don’t think I disagree with that, but I also see a strong element of good fortune in his run earlier this year, just as I did in, say, Rafa’s USO run last year (although these are different scales).

Only time will tell which one of us is “right” or whether someone – already famous or not – will rise to the Djokovic challenge, or whether he will sink back to his (already excellent) 2010 level. Maybe Rafa will get over his “issues,” or maybe when the ATP’s rankings from e.g. places 6-16 reflect actual skill again more accurately – after 2012 AO, I’d say – then we will see different outcomes in a lot of tournament from this year. But maybe you’re right — maybe Djokovic really just has achieved tennis perfection. I don’t believe it. But it would be cool.

Personally, my favorite still has to be Roger. But a few years ago, I wouldn’t have been able to have this discussion because I would have just been like “but Roger is soooo goooood!!!” (To be said in an obnoxious, nasal voice.) Now, I don’t care so much; I’d like to think that I see their strengths and weaknesses in a pretty fair light. Murray definitely has attitude and confidence problems – but he’s the smartest tactician in the top ten. Federer is too arrogant, but it’s hard to fault him for that after 2004-2007, and his outstanding results in 2003 and 2009 even. (2008 was okay.) Rafa, it’s hard to get a read on. I don’t buy most of the bunk about him, which comes in two varieties – Rafa the bull, and Rafa the creature of Tony Nadal. Roger’s tennis, I still love. But I’m starting to think he’s still stuck at 20 years old, mentally. Lastly, Djokovic… I don’t know. He’s so good, but not always admirable. It’s hard to say. And then of course I have random players I like from further “down”: Gasquet, Tipsa, Simon, Haase, Cilic, whether because I like their tennis style or their persona.


Eric Says:

BTW, I strongly agree with WTF re: Nole and doping. Until there is real evidence, no athlete – whether from a fairly clean sport or even the dirtiest of all, cycling – should be condemned in the court of public opinion for supposed doping. IMO, Nole’s 2011 can explained by whatever modest physical gains he’s gotten from the gluten-free diet and his hypobaric chamber, and mostly from the mental boost he got from winning the Davis cup, the AO, and Feb tournaments in succession.

But Federer can definitely still beat both Rafa and Nole. As Wilander (IIRC) said, he is a few percent behind them… but neither is playing as well as they were in May or June, and Fed is about the same. Any tennis match between pros within 20 or 30 spots on the rankings comes down to a few points per set, or one bad service game, or whatever… IMO, even now, Fed-Nole is a tossup.


margot Says:

Interesting….
Am sure Andy would rather see Nole on other side of net
Am sure Fed would rather see Andy
Am sure Rafa would rather see Fed
Don’t think Nole gives a hoot.
Hmm WTF: rather too dismissive of Andy’s performance at Cincy. Whatever the reason, Nole was beaten. Don’t forget how close Andy came in their previous meeting, only his damn head letting him down, as usual.
Andy’s continually knocking on that door, one of these days it’ll open for him.


simba Says:

The pressure of the long winning streak got to Nole @FO. The Cincinati loss is a blessing in disguise; Nole is no longer defending another active streak. He will take care of Roger in four.

It is hard to judge Roger’s form because Tsonga was not on his game in the QF as vs. Fish. That has been a pattern with him: playing one or two brilliant matches followed by a clunker.

Murray-Nadal is a toss-up, but I am rooting for Nadal to own Federer again, just in case Nole has an off day.


blank Says:

“…Actually, it’s the sixth time this quartet has filled a Final Four (most recently at the French Open) and surprisingly the only one of the four yet to win the title when that happens is Djokovic. But I think that changes soon enough…”

uh…did I miss a Murray GS title win?


Swiss Maestro Says:

blank :

those 6 fab four semifinal experinces have come in masters as well as grandslams as WTF

murray won toronto last year when all 4 made the semis. novak has not won a title in those 6 times. get it?

it is the 3rd time at a GS. fed won 2008 uso, rafa won fo 2011….. wait and see who wins on monday.

murray won toronto 2010 and fed again won WTF 2010. i am wondering where the 6th such meeting was….


blank Says:

@Swiss Maestro: I guess you are right. But Sean was ambiguous there! ;-)


madmax Says:

Dory Says:

He couldn’t beat Nole 12 months ago, he can’t now. Nole has improved since then, Federer has regressed. He’s currently at the tail end of his career and it’s not going to get better for him from here on.

September 10th, 2011 at 5:10 am

Dory, I don’t know how you can say this about Federer considering he beat nole 3 times last year and already once in a GS this yearand beat him convincingly too, winning the coveted WTF? I don’t think Roger has regressed as much as people keep saying. It’s just same old about him right now, and boring. As tsonga said in his interview:

Q. Do you think he’s playing well enough to beat Novak and to maybe win the tournament?

JO WILFRIED TSONGA: I hope for him. I hope for him. You know, every time when he lost, you know, everybody say, you know, Roger is finished. But for me, he’s still the same player. He is very good. When the confidence is here for him, you know, it’s for everybody to play against him. That’s it.

And shouldn’t Tsonga know if he is ‘the same player’, after having played roger numerous times? Or is his opinion to be discounted too?

Federer played extremely well against tsonga, better than anyone expected, because again, he had been written off – you see all the sites crashing when Federer wins, it’s ridiculous. It had nothing to do with Tsonga not playing well. Fed did not allow him to play as well. His movement was impeccable on that day, his footwork and attacking strokes. Federer was confident and That was the difference. Federer played his game plan to perfection and should be given some credit here. He’s never given the credit these days because he has been talked about for so long, people forget. That’s fine. When he’s gone, people will start to remember! It’s so ironic.

Tsonga was out of his league on Thursday.

This is it. Every time Roger loses, everyone writes him off. Beware the wounded Federer as they say.

Not only that, why is Federer always compared to Sampras when he only played the guy once in his career? Once.

Hardly the same generation, and people going on about age, Novak 5 years younger than Federer, so what? Rafa, 5 years younger than Federer, so what? They have played Roger each, more than 20 times in their career. They should be regarded as equal contemporaries, irrespective of age.

Roger has beaten Cilic who is 7 years younger than Roger and arguably has more potential (yet unleashed) than Murray or Delpotro? Roger beat Del potro, who is 7 years younger than Federer. He beats players who are younger than him all the time and no one says a word. It doesn’t count because Federer is always in constant decline.

They are all playing in the same generation, they are all contemporaries and all of them, can beat each other on any given day.

I think you will find that Federer is fitter then anyone gives him credit for. Age is a number. That is all.

And why is it that Federer is the only one who is declining? Do you ever read about the rafa decline? or the Murray decline?(when Murray hits a slump or goes out early?) It’s just a bad day at the office. The examples of unfair press is all over the place.

You read about the Cilic decline and just about now, the Roddick decline. It’s such old news.

Rarely do you get to hear about Federer’s training regime, or what he does to keep fit. You are always hearing about Murray, Nadal and Novak’s training regime and how fit they are.

To hear this every day about Roger, people should try and find some new things to say.

Nole is beatable.

Everyone knows that or if they don’t, why bother playing? Just hand the trophy to him.

I admire Federer’s tenacity and hunger for more when he has achieved so much already and I hope he wins later. That would be great, to win his 6th USO title on Monday too!

What would the press say then?


Swiss Maestro Says:

even if he was not, we have the right to call sean names, dont we? :)

and i just remember the 6th fab 4 occurence in a semi = 2009 cincinnati.

going by history, in the 5 times fab four made semis (fed won thrice = 2008 uso, 09 cincinnati, 2010 WTF) and murray won once (2010 toronto) and rafa won once (2011 RG). so fed fans must hope for history repeat. another thing is, in those 5 meetings, except for 2009 cincinnati, it has always been fed vs djokovic semi. so, 5 times out of 6 that fab four have met, fed has played djokovic. and all the 4 times fed has overcome novak. all fed fans must be praying fed repeats the act a 5th time!


andrea Says:

i dunno…novak was looking close to invincible this year, but aside from the paris loss, it’s only been during the US hard court season that cracks have shown – getting back to his old moody ways when things weren’t working, having to retire in the final.

to me, at this stage in the year, the match really is a toss up. fed has hit his stride and novak is still very consistent. their games match up very well so if they are both on, there is little to distinguish. (ie FO final)

nadal’s match against roddick was like fed’s against monaco – everything came to their wheelhouse and was executed perfectly so that their opponents looked hapless. i was more impressed with fed’s follow up match against tsonga where he continued to play strong.

if murray serves well and gets up early, i think he has a chance against nadal.


margot Says:

andrea: lol but fortunately Andy/Rafa is later match so hopefully Andy will be well up by the :)


Kimberly Says:

In the different permutations of the final I see four different results:

Nole-Murray–I would pick Andy!
Nole-Rafa-Nole (sorry Rafa)
Fed-Murray–Fed
Fed-Nadal-Nadal

Implications:

Murray–If Murray makes it to the final he damn well better win it or the rest of the season will be another depression of first round losses. If he loses, he might as well take the rest of the year off, do some serious training to make a serous assualt on 2012. But a 4th GS final loss would be devastating. If he wins, he will take his game to the level everyone has waited for, become a hero, and threaten for the top spot in 2012.

Rafa-If Rafa loses to Murray or Fed he will be ok. If he loses to Djokovic he will seriously question himself and have a shaky end to the year. If Rafa beats Fed, people will say he didn’t really win, as he didn’t have to play Djokovic. So it won’t really do much for him other than finally allow him to defend a non-clay title. If Rafa beats Djokovic (unlikely) look out, he will threaten for the top spot early next year.

Djokovic–In my opinion the stakes for him are the biggest. For his great year to really be great—he needs to win this grandslam. Even if he only lost the match today or in the final—if he only had a 2GS win season arguably Feds 2009 2 Wins 2 Finals 2006 3 wins 1 final 2007 3 wins 1 final Rafas 2008 2 semis 2 ws Rafas 2010 3 w’s 1 qf would be as good, as the grand slams are what people really remember. (does anyone talk about Rafa having the record for Masters no, not even me, because no one really care, its nice but come on, we all know its about the slams). If Djoko loses to anyone he will be pissed. There is no loss in this that is “ok” as I think Rafa would be losing to Fed or Murray.

Federer-the least on the line in my opinion. The dude has won 16 gs, a million weeks at number one, unbreakable SF and QF streaks in majors, is thirty years old and doesn’t need to prove nothing to no one nohow. Will he really care if he loses to Rafa again in another final, I don’t think so. If he wins he will be happy, if he loses he will be ok. The only thing left in his career that he hasn’t done is beat Rafa at RG and I think he will keep trying to do that too, why not.

Ha ha ha, just my way to amuse myself before going off to play myself.


Kimmi Says:

I love fed but I have a feeling if he beats djoko he will lose to rafa in the final. Which is even worse than losing to djoko.

I hope muzza wins his first slam this monday. GO MUZZA


Ike Says:

IMPORTANT NOTE!
When Roger wins first set, he is 14-3, but when he loses first set, he is 0-6.
We all know, typically Roger is great starter, but if can’t today and loses the first set then Nole should win this one. I hope Nole wins this one:)


Ike Says:

Kimmi, we surely agree on one thing…Murray to win the USO!


Skeezerweezer Says:

Wow some great quality posts! Woke up this AM and read some of the best tennis talk ever. The Morning Paper couldn’t hold a candle to the stuff on this thread. Tennis X rocks! Thanks gang :)


Brando Says:

Mmm, nice reading others thoughts here! Feel it’s too close to call as match time comes closer to happening. Feel any 1 of them could win. If this was FO you could rule murray out, at wimby maybe favour certain players moreso, but here it’s pretty close. Nole and murray for me seem most vulnerable but who knows? What if they step up today. Ultimately I feel there are no favourites today- they all feel they can win.


simba Says:

@madmax: I admire Federer’s tenacity and hunger for more when he has achieved so much already and I hope he wins later.

Why then has he never figured out the Nadal’s challenge? He came up short time and time against Nadal. If he could add a BH DTL, he could have beaten Nadal. But no, he was always content with the stupid cross-court BH that played into Nadal’s vicious FH. Tenacity, hunger, huh?

Federer has more pure talent than any player I watched, but for tenacity, toughness and making the most out of their talent, It is hands down Rafael Nadal. I don’t see how you can stack the hunger, the work ethics of Federer against Nadal.


van orten Says:

I believe fed vs nad. You have to pick that before other.
It s the only gs final missing between the two
There is lot more djoker vs Nadal time to come.
Fed wants to beat Nadal in Ny…
he needs to want it to beat djoker
Rafa wants to beat fed in all gs finals..
It’s gonna be great today


Skeezerweezer Says:

Wonder if the history books will take on the name of “fab four” for Murray Rafa Fed Novak. Would be cool…….Murray probably will need to win a slam or 2 while Fed is still playing to make that a reality…


Ike Says:

margot, i hope Andy wins this USO…but i still have concerns with his style of play…he seems focused on not making UEs, which (even he had admitted in the past) works great against other top 100 players, but against “big 3″, we all agree that he needs that X-factor, the winners. I hope he stays positive and gets the job done :)


simba Says:

@kimmy, I agree that beating ND and then losing to Nadal is even worse for Roger’s legacy.

Unfortunately, he has to play the first SF.


Ike Says:

Skeezerweezer, agree lot of great posts here


margot Says:

skeeze: thought Fed was playing till he’s 90… bit of hope for Andy then, wouldn’t you say?


margot Says:

Cheers, Ike :) Not sure Andy will do it till his head’s sorted, but he certainly can. If his serve is on today, he’s got a better than even chance, if it’s not; bye, bye Andy.


Ike Says:

simba, kimmi, if Roger beats Nole today, then i believe he should be the favorite to beat Rafa or Andy. But, i m Nole fan so I hope Nole beats Roger today :)


jamie Says:

Djokovic-Murray final.


Gordo Says:

I have not been on this site for several months, because of what I am about to describe.

A few years ago I thought this was a predominantly Federer leaning site, not so much by the writers and the administrators who are usually very objective and write good posts, but by the blathering “fans” who endlessly comment.

Then I noticed a switch to Rafa. Maybe not so much a switch as a gain of support for him and a waning for Federer.

No Djokovic, reviled by many as recently as a year ago, is “the man.”

Lombardi was right, “Winning isn’t everything. It is the only thing.”

Now I realize what this site has is a pile (admidst the true tennis fans)of bandwagon jumpers – who do nothing but pontificate about whoever is dominant and then vanish when that player begins his decline.

Reading the comments from some who are so positive of the outcome that I doubt they will even watch these matches, I always shake my head in disbelief when they are so wrong it is laughable and they rarely admit they were out to lunch when making their preductions. But then as the blog that they bragged (foolishly), predicted (wrongly) and browbeat (repeatedly) slips into the past they will be back again, as big as life – bragging, predicting and browbeating again.

I’ll have to check in again in 6 months… or maybe not.

Sheesh!


Ike Says:

margot, cheers :)
to convince myself, why Murray will win grandslams, i made a list month or so ago, here it is:

- There is no real weakness in his basic shots (FH, Serve, BH). He may not be dominant with them, but they are solid
-He plays well on hard courts, (and as everyone knows) two out of four GS are held on hard courts
- He has already played in three finals of hard court grandslams
- He is 24, thus definitely he has 4-5 solid years ahead of him
- He has the will / desire / hunger to win GS, and he works hard for it
- If Roger can win FO, Rafa can win USO, then (logically) there is no way Murray can’t win a GS!


alison hodge Says:

i think although rafa would love to get the nole monkey of his back,i think having already won the us open last year,he has already done what he wanted to do which was to complete a career grand slam,he and roger have already done all there is to do in terms of tennis,everthing they do now is gravy,had roger not won the fo in 2009,and rafa not won the us open last tear,it would have got more difficult,now the pressure is off them.


Gannu Says:

madmax Says:

I am probably the only one who thinks Federer can do it.

Oh come on madamx how can u forget me? ;-))) add me to ur list ;-)

Kimmi Says:
I love fed but I have a feeling if he beats djoko he will lose to rafa in the final. Which is even worse than losing to djoko.

I hope muzza wins his first slam this monday. GO MURRAY

That’s my worry too Kimmi..just doesnt want fed to lose again to rafa… though I would love or want to win fed again even if he has to lose to muzza i wouldnt feel that bad as peraps Muzza definitely deserves one some point in time…

Lets hope we get a Fed-Murray final and let the best player win…

Come on Feddy bear all the way with you


Ike Says:

Gordo, welcome back!
Great to see that you quoted Lombardi. Packers are my team, (why? because of they are the only public owned NFL team, because they are a “small town team”, and because of Lombardi, Star, Favre). And no i didn’t jump on the bandwagon because they are winning, I was rooting for them even when they were rebuilding the team with young guns. so Go Packers!!!
Anyways, coming back to tennis…you are right about people’s tendency to jump on the bandwagons, predictions, etc. Personally, I NEVER done jumping bandwagons. But, I am guilty of predicting all the time. Well, I am right most of the times :)


alison hodge Says:

margot from what i can gather and i dont mean any disrespect to anyone,i dont think anyone is giving our little red devil much of a chance,however i think this could work to his advantage,as long as muzza does his thing,he may surprise everybody.


Ike Says:

i wish there was a “hunger meter” to measure who is more hungry to win this USO amongst these fab fours. People can speculate who is hungriest among these four, but I think / hope all four are almost equally hungry to win this title. I am hoping for a true “super saturday”, excellent tennis, a day we can remember. A day that can match1984 super saturday!


madmax Says:

Awesome post Kimberley!

‘Federer has more pure talent than any player I watched, but for tenacity, toughness and making the most out of their talent, It is hands down Rafael Nadal. I don’t see how you can stack the hunger, the work ethics of Federer against Nadal’.

September 10th, 2011 at 9:30 am

Simba, your above post. Your opinion.

It kinda goes something like this…

He has beaten Nadal before, he will do it again.I think Federer right now is training really hard as his other target is to win the olympics next year at Wimbledon. Last time he beat Nadal, no one gave him a chance. Not one of the journalists at the 02 in the pre-tournament meeting said Roger would win. The O2 WTF, I was there last November. Federer was awesome on hard courts. Awesome. I never see the guy play so hard and so well.

He will be remembered as the greatest ever tennis player, but people won’t appreciate him until he has gone, won’t fully appreciate his game, his legacy, (which is safe and well in my view), despite his losses to rafa and novak over his career. Who cares about those losses?

They have made for great matches. It would be completely unrealistic to expect Federer to win everything in sight.

Federer’s huge charm worldwide will be missed as well as his strut on the court (which I have to say, just gets better).

You classify Federer through his losses to Rafa? you want to define him that way, go right ahead.

I don’t.

The times he has put himself into the final against this great player, and lost. I would rather he gets to a final and loses it, then reach say the QF’s and is out of the tourny.

It shows to me that Federer, getting older, is still as good, better for his age than the majority 99% of younger players(that’s the only thing I will say about his age).

What other 30 year old active player can still pit themselves fairly and squarely against rafa and novak?

Anyone else?

A resounding no.

The guy is awesome. All round quality player with more to come.

Tenacity and toughness, he has plenty of.

Doesn’t matter to me, I love the federer v rafa rivalry and I don’t mind at all if they play against each other in the final. It is a match for the ages and for generations to come.

Federer is special.

His work ethic is never really talked about. You know about his ruthless training in Dubai and his block training sessions during the year? Many knock federer by saying his practise sessions are too laid back, his training sessions are not hard enough? What has he got to do? Go at it like a pit bull terrier all the time? Practise the way that Rafa does? Rafa is rafa and has his own special qualities, but Roger is unique.

Fed’s majesty is his simplicity. His tenacity is in his genes and to say that he doesn’t fight back in crucial moments is unfair. I don’t know who it was, but someone here posted his break point conversion which was not so good, but that has improved at the U S Open. He doesn’t have to sweat to show the hunger to me.

He has 16 slams to prove it. That’s all that matters. If he adds to it, I will be more than happy, if he doesn’t, I am still happy.


Ike Says:

alison hodge…i guess you haven’t read my posts. I am telling everyone that Andy is going to win this USO! And I am still sticking with it. I almost put $100 bet on Andy to win this title, on a online betting site in the beginning of this USO, odds were about 6 to 1, so i figured I could make some money. Put the money where my mouth is. The only reason I didn’t do it, because I am not sure if all these betting things are legal or not. So I put $100 in “options” on a company in NYSE :)


jamie Says:

Murray winning the USO would be wonderful.

But Nole is a rock this year…


Skeezerweezer Says:

“It’s two weeks, three out of five sets and now they’re playing three or four days in a row. But at the end of the tunnel, someone’s going to be $1.8 million richer and have a U.S. Open title. So, isn’t that worth working for?”

Jimmy Connors

I now take a reverse opinion on the top players whining about the schedule, they shouldn’t.

1.8 mil? Play friggin on.


B-Lab Says:

3 Thoughts heading into the US Open semis. Stealing from Oz, a win for Woz? and the toughest ticket in town #USO11 http://bit.ly/q3qRte


alison hodge Says:

@ike sorry realised after my post,i should have said the majority,but thanks anyway for keeping the faith.


alison hodge Says:

skeezer yeah too right,i suppose some people dont realise how lucky they are,even the looser will get what half of that.


Ike Says:

Skeezerweezer …yeah $1.8 mil is a lot of money and players shouldn’t whine this much about scheduling, it’s pretty much once a year thing. And like most of the fans I LOVE super Saturdays. But, they really need one court with roof on, they really do.
Btw, no pitcher in MLB pitches on 2-3-4 consecutive days, typically they have 4-5 days rest. So, if you compare tennis players to the pitchers you would agree that they deserve some rest.
I am glad they are giving Sunday off to men. We should have a GREAT final on Monday. Btw, Weather.com is predicting good weather for Flushing, NY on Monday :)


Ike Says:

Skeezerweezer, btw do you play tennis?


Ike Says:

alison hodge, jamie, margot…when we watch our NFL, NBA, MLB team play a game we put on their jerseys, so i recommend you guys wear some Adidas outfit while watching Andy’s match today. At least I am doing it :)


Dan Martin Says:

I think Nole and Rafa set up another final today, but this could obviously go any number of ways.


Ike Says:

btw, i think Brian Early and USTA has (again) screwed up the schedule…i think women should have been playing first today, and one of the men’s match should have been in “primetime”!


Polo Says:

If Federer beat Djokovic, it will be a French Open de javu “all over again”.


Ike Says:

btw, Aussie Open winner gets the highest prize money among the four majors. I think that’s mostly because of recent (last about 5 years) appreciation of Aussie dollar compared with USD.


alison hodge Says:

madmax i enjoyed reading your post,and have to say roger and rafa too,have both cemented there legacy and set the bar so high for the next generations to come,such a great friendship and rivalry,will be hard for the others to match,when both eventually retire i wonder if in years to come,we will see roger and rafa in the wimbledon studio chatting together about there rivalry like borg and j.mac do now,untill then its just a pleasure to witness there unique and individual talents,and enjoy them while they are still here,no need to discredit either player both are fantastic.


Dory Says:

@madmax, I didn’t say what you are saying. :) WTF said that. I am fearing Federer will defeat Djokovic and once again lose to Nadal. That is why I want Djokovic to win.


alison hodge Says:

margot just wonering if our fab 4 were compared to the other fab 4,the beatles,which would be which,im ,thinking roger=mcartney,rafa=lennon,is that right or would those two be the other way around,nole=harrison,muzza=ringo.


Daniel Says:

Feel sad for whoever loses this US Open final of the top 4, it will be devastating.

Can’t see Murray losing another final, or Federer also. Djoko if he loses 3 US Open finals will be tough, and Nadal if reaches the final and lose again will be hard.

No winner scenario!


Ike Says:

If you closely analyze any big rivalries in tennis (at least the open era), you will realize two things:
- The rivalry is (almost clearly) dominated by one player, (Rafa over Roger, Pete over Andre, Johny Mc over Jimmy Conors, Lendl over Johny Mc)
or
- One player had a “run” on another, (Johny Mc on Connors, Lendl on Johny Mc).

I think the greatest rivalry was Borg vs. Johny Mc, unfortunately Mr.Borg decided to disappear after three consecutive losses to Johny Mc, thus that rivalry lived only about 4 years.

I think Nole and Andy M could have great rivalry in the years to come…they are of same age (born just a week apart), similar styles. Currently Nole leads 6-4, but I believe Andy can match Nole. I am looking forward to final between these two on Monday (hopefully).


Ike Says:

Daniel…agree it’s going to be tough loss for whoever loses in the final. It will be very interesting to see how that runner-up (i m not going to call him loser) does next year.


Ike Says:

to be honest, i would like to see Nole-Andy final, if not then Roger-Rafa, i don’t want to see other two combinations (i.e. Nole-Rafa or Roger-Andy)


Skeezerweezer Says:

Ike,
re; 10:30 post

Yes i do. Do u? I believe Kimberly plays as well as Ben. I know there are others but can’t remember at the moment.


margot Says:

Ike, I so can’t bear Andy to lose another final :( I’d sooner he goes out to Rafa! There, I’ve said it :(


Ike Says:

margot, just do me a favor put on some Adidas t-shirt/ jacket, bring out that union jack, and just root for Andy!!! And thank ME when he wins that USO on Monday!


Kimmi Says:

almost! bring it on


Ike Says:

Skeezerweezer …. yes i do play tennis, about 4 days a week… typically two sets every time we play. I can (but usually don’t) play three days in a row. Typically that third day is brutal / almost unbearable.
Yes, these players are professional, they are maybe 10 times better in shape than me, they get ice baths, massage, and all that, and they will earn $1.8 mil if they win USO. They maybe “super” but still they are human beings. So I do think it’s unfair to ask them play three days in a row, best of five sets. If they had kept the original schedule and asked Rafa / Andy play four matches in four days, then it would have been INSANE!


Ike Says:

Well…time to watch some tennis!!!!!!!!
Come on NOLE!!!!
Get that first set and match will be yours!!!!!!


margot Says:

Ike: :) OK! Just putting “my red Dress on” Adidas of course….Such optimism, my my…not a long term Andy fan then…;)


Kimmi Says:

this is a very nerve racking match for me..well, maybe all federer matches are like that! deep breath!!

Djokovic is the man this year. He has always bring it up in big matches. he knows when to play his best or go home. Today is one of those days.


Dory Says:

zOMG OMG OMG it’s time! My 2 favorites playing against one another. If only Nadal played first, then I would know who to root for. :)


Kimmi Says:

more RAIN! Drizzles! ah, c’mon mother nature, please spare us!!


Kimmi Says:

OH MY! dick last season? all the best man!


Dory Says:

F**k the rain! They are show last year’s Fed-Djoko semi in the stream I am watching. It was Nole’s turning point match.


Brando Says:

Roger needs the 1st set more I feel in this one. He’s probably the underdog in this. Wish him the best.


Humble Rafa Says:

Roger is definitely the underdog. I want him to win, for selfish reasons ofcourse. I own him. LOL.
RAFA=GOAT, 2 “Grand Slams”. No one has ever done it! Well, some old Aussie guy but he is irrelevant in my world (if you schmooze with the Arrogant one, you are a fool in my world).


Golf is barely a Sport Says:

What is the deal w/ Dan Martin? Does he write here or at the link his name goes to? I liked his stuff.


Kimmi Says:

kerber vs stosur match is not even mentioned. what the ?????


madmax Says:

Good luck Roger, We know you can do this!


Milos Says:

Ah the procedure for drying of the court started…


Gannu Says:

Guys any update on the match why it hasnt started? Very heavy rains or something? any update would be useful..

Yes madmax..come on our man can do it


sheila Says:

if murray doesnt beat nadal on his fvt surface & nadals least fvt surface then i dont c murray winning a major. not if he cant get by nadal. roger, same thing, he needs 2get by djokovic 2get to a final in a major 2get the chance 2win another major. federer, doesnt have 2prove anything the way murray does, however. still, i so hope roger can somehow pull the upset, big if & i hope murray can pull the upset against nadal & imho, thats an even bigger if…


madmax Says:

Hi Gannu,

just stay positive my man!

Come on Roger!


Humble Rafa Says:

From the Rafa Kingdom, Roger please beat Novak. I want to win the US Open.


Dan Martin Says:

I think Murray has a shot but Nadal looks ruthless at the moment. If Murray can return well enough you know he has a shot.


Dory Says:

Court is nearly dry. Players should be back on the court soon. What a stupid and pointless exercise. Why can’t they just put a cover on the court so there is no time wasted drying it (and prevent how Louis Armstrong stadium got damaged by the rain)? Just because a hard court doesn’t create a mess like clay court when it rain doesn’t mean they need not prevent it from getting wet.


Cbeast Says:

Players will be on Court in ten minutes!


alison hodge Says:

dory strange how you would want a fed v muzza final,so that andy will be rogers whipping boy,and not a fed v rafa final,as your scared roger will be rafas whipping boy,why dont you just root for your out and out favourite,isnt that the whole point,and all the fun of the challenge,yeah i love rafa but if he were to beat muzza today,i would love for him to play and beat nole in the final,i wouldnt choose roger just because i think its an easier option,the excitement lies in meeting and over coming these challenges,same if it were muzza who im hoping wins the final.


Gannu Says:

roger looks nervous while speaking to mary joe.. breathing harder ;-)


scoreboard66 Says:

It’s nearly crunch time, and I’m hoping for roger to win this SF match.

Sorry Ike, I know you’re a geat Nole fan, and a fair tennis fan, but Rog has not won a title for over 11 months and he’s due. It must be a bit tough on him at this point to put in so much work nd not have anything to show for it. C’mon rog, you can do it!


Dory Says:

There are many reasons why I feel that way. I support Roger because of his natural, fluid, beautiful and effortless style and his records overwhelm me. I have observed his success since 2003 and what he has achieved is unmatched. He IS the greatest. At the same time, I love Novak’s game too. It’s different from Roger’s but it’s natural, maybe not as effortless as Federer’s but still he doesn’t look like he’s putting his life on the line to play the match. He plays quite efficiently. My out and out favorite would be Roger, especially knowing he doesn’t have many years left, at the same time I feel Roger (and Nadal) have achieved so much and Novak deserves some more success. That’s why I would love Novak to win too. Tennis is really about match-ups and there is no shame for me as a Roger fan to accept that his game doesn’t suit Rafa’s game very much. There is nothing shameful about that and it doesn’t mean his achievements are less impressive. One day, Novak’s H2H might be greater against Rafa’s but he may not win that many slams, does it mean Djokovic is a greater player than Nadal at the moment? No. So that’s it. Both Roger and Novak are my favorites. I can’t choose between the two.


Eric Says:

Here we go!


Dory Says:

I won’t be posting during the match because the BASTARDS at the TV stream I am watching are showing ads during play so I am missing some beginning points of each game!! So I need to catch an internet stream.


Kimmi Says:

fed tested a little. i already think this match will be long..


Kimmi Says:

returns are no working for roger so far! calm down rog!


Kimmi Says:

federer missing all djokovic second serves. he is trying to go for too much i think..


scoreboard66 Says:

I think both guys are just feling each other out and trying to get a fix on what to expect from the othe.

It would be nice to see Djokovic just toss the ball and hit his serve, like Fed, Isner, DelPotro,roddick and many others, Instead, we have to watch this ball bouncing which never seems to end. It mst be awaful for the opponent to have to wait for the serve.


Kimmi Says:

bad dropper..very bad


Vinod Says:

come on FED take the first set…


Kimmi Says:

tie break?


Kimmi Says:

roger returns has been poor so far..aaargh!


Eric Says:

tiebreak… it seemed like this is what they were rushing for. Have to give a slight edge to Nole, he was the tiniest bit more consistent on serve + dangerous receiving.


Humble Rafa Says:

Roger fans. I feel for you. You tummy turns, I know.


Kimmi Says:

oh, DF! a chance for fed here!


Eric Says:

Ouch….Nole!


Dory Says:

World no. 1s DO NOT double fault on break points!!!! And not on important points.


Kimmi Says:

ah..c’mon federer DF too. I dont believe it


Eric Says:

df fever!


Kimmi Says:

Great point..they are starting to warm up..Now federer, its on your hands


Eric Says:

oh come on…


i am it Says:

This match has already exceeded my expectation.


Humble Rafa Says:

stop crying. you are a roger fan. deal with it.


Kimmi Says:

bad feeling here..Djokovic making a comeback!

And he takes this now?..oh lord!


i am it Says:

Fed is still playing at the top of his game.
Djoko looks a bit matured in handling the situation, maybe.


Daniel Says:

Wow, fantástico wrong foot! Almost broke Djoko’s spine.


Dory Says:

THAT was a disappointing tie break by Nole. :(


Daniel Says:

This will be a battle, way better than Nadal and Djoko moon balls and slow points.


Gannu Says:

thnk god he took the first set….


Dory Says:

The commentators were saying out of the 23 times they played, 20 times the one who has taken the first set has won!!!!


madmax Says:

No, roger is playing well whoever is saying he isn’t returning! The match is brilliant! Fed’s backhand is brilliant, Novak’s returns are brilliant.

What a brilliant match!

Come on Fed!

Brilliant first set to the Maestro!

Well done Fed. Now Focusssssssss!!!!!!!! Keep it.

I just love Mirka’s reaction!

Go Mirka!

Gannu! stay positive my friend. This is a great match!

Now, it becomes difficult.

But Fed can do this. He is on fire!


i am it Says:

Except last year, the 1st set of the match reminded me of all the matches Djoko lost to Fed.
Not a good feeling.
Anyone out there to console me?


madmax Says:

kimmi…..c’mon man!

Fed is playing great.


Daniel Says:

Never saw Federer run to the chair after a set, adrenaline was high!


Kimmi Says:

federer won first set last year but he still lost.

Hoe they can play freely now! it has been a tense match i feel..


madmax Says:

wrap it up in 3 sets Fed.


Eric Says:

It’s okay… Fed still has two sets to throw his lead like he usually does these days. :)


madmax Says:

wow. what a shot from Fed!


Andrea Says:

Go Roger!!!!!


madmax Says:

Kimmi, stay positive man. Federer is here and playing great. Concentrate on that. You can’t change the past! stay in the present and be happy!

Come on Fed! Go Mirka (She almost did a mexican wave) Did anyone see her?. Mirka is so cool!


tennisfansince76 Says:

down the line!


Eric Says:

first bp of the match!


Kimmi Says:

eric – yeah, that is what i am hoping not to happen..

I was worried for him when he was 6-3 in the tie break..and suddlenly 6-6. heart rate up. thank god he won.

What a BH winner. Great stuff!


tennisfansince76 Says:

tatwas a funny first set. it seemed slack until the tiebreak. Djoker is nervous i think. i noticed he was mouthbreathing and clenching his during the 1st set


tennisfansince76 Says:

clenching his jaw


Eric Says:

….and gone.


Dory Says:

Novak just cannot play his style of game against Federer. Too many errors.


tennisfansince76 Says:

this big for joker. a 2 GS season is very very good. a 3 GS is godlike


tennisfansince76 Says:

there’s the break!


madmax Says:

kimmiiiiiiiiiiii!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Go Roger!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I bloody love Roger. I bloody love him.


Gannu Says:

yes madmax a breaak… i am only worried big time that if fed wins and has to face nadal i will feel humiliated if he loses again.. just damn worried..have a feeling like damned if you do and damned if you dont ;-(((


Kimmi Says:

BREAK!! dont believe it..djokovic is playing like NOT i have seen him this year or is federer too good for him today?


Daniel Says:

Amazing how Fed is wrong footing Djoko and nulyfing his great anticipation. Remarkable match by Fed do far.


Eric Says:

YES! I despaired too soon! All right!


tennisfansince76 Says:

Novak needs to settle down and just play pt to pt.


madmax Says:

No Gannu. Wrong psychology. Don’t worry about Monday.

Stay in the present. Federer is thinking about this match and this match only. Forget what happens later. This is now. This is what is important.

Two great champions, Federer and Novak.

We think about what happens later when it is called for. Not now. This is a great match.

C’mon Roger!

Bloody love him.


tennisfansince76 Says:

a little of both Kimmi. Djoker is not serving that well today. that puts hum under a lot more pressure. now that was a vintage Nole pt


Dory Says:

Djoko seems to be nervous and holding back. Body language isn’t so good.


Kimmi Says:

what a point by nole..


Eric Says:

By the way… does anyone else think it’s unfair that the women’s SF matches start tonight at 7 and then they have to play their final tomorrow? They could have given then the morning slots at least, give them a chance to rest…


Fed is God Says:

I cannot handle this match.
I am afraid Rafa will be hoisting his 11th slam this monday evening.

I beg you Fed…please lose today and save your GOAT title.
Pls dont make the same mistake you did at FO.


Kimmi Says:

Federer has to be careful when he run his BH..


Kimmi Says:

ah, bad miss. he needs to hold this one at least! he looks shaky


Fed is God Says:

Rafa will be even more motivated for his SF match now.


tennisfansince76 Says:

tough hold for Fed. could have been a momentum changer


Daniel Says:

Fed is supreme! There os Nothing Djoko can do when the Best forehand In history is working like this!!


Kimmi Says:

Fed is God – lol! me too!


Craig Says:

I hope Nole learns from Federer and Rafa to take it a little with smaller tourneys and step it up only for slams.
His winning record is of no value if loses 2 slams semis.


i am it Says:

Jumping to the future, it looks like we’re going to have Nadal whipping Federer, one more time.


Eric Says:

Nice hold!


Craig Says:

I hope Nole learns from Federer and Rafa to take it a little easy with smaller tourneys and step it up only for slams.
His winning record is of no value if loses 2 slams semis.


van orten Says:

Vamos roger


madmax Says:

I wish people would just stop talking about nadal in a federer match.

We are watching Novak and Federer and what a great match this is.

If this goes Federer’s way, and it isn’t over by any means, I couldn’t care less about who wins the final. I want fed IN the final and I want him to win, but if he doesn’t, he doesn’t.

It is what it is.

Federer come on and do what you can do!

Stay in the present and focus!


madmax Says:

I am it, you should be ashamed of yourself for what you are saying right now. I expected more from you.


tennisfansince76 Says:

Nole showing some life?


Kimmi Says:

BREAK!

Djokovic returns worked well there! hmmmm!


madmax Says:

High quality match.

Come on Fed.

Stay focussed.


Daniel Says:

Why everybody speaking as If Fed has no shot against Nadal In this court?! Nadal is no where near last year form, with no serve this time


Gannu Says:

Fed is God Says:
Rafa will be even more motivated for his SF match now.

Yes rafa is the ultimate beast… He will devour murray if he sees roger has reached the final..Really i cant see federer losing to nadal now in US open final


Fed is God Says:

If Fed wins today he can boast of having beaten Nole twice in his all time great year. But the end result would be that Rafa would end up with two slams amid such a hot streak from Nole.


madmax Says:

Federer. Stay absolutely brilliant. Just stay.

Brilliant.

Federer.

Come on!


Kimmi Says:

BREAK! amazing, fed breaks right back..now to hold please!


Vinod Says:

c’mon FED u can do it!!!


madmax Says:

Daniel,

Thank God you are here.


Kimmi Says:

went back to djokovic..eh, bad move


madmax Says:

magnificent federer.


madmax Says:

Stay focussed Roger. I believe in you, even if no one else does.

Stay brilliant.

Come on!


Kimmi Says:

body serve worked in that last fed serve


alison hodge Says:

nole looks too much like the old nole,rogers much the better player at the moment,i hope nole can turn this around.


Aravind Says:

This is an amazing quality match… The entire match feels like highlights. Djokovic is playing a level that will beat anyone else, but Federer is matching him shot for shot and playing the big points well. Fingers crossed.. Hopefully Federer will go two sets to love..


chico Says:

The last point in the game where Fed broke, kept it on the djoker bh: topspin, slice, slice, changing pace but not energy, ripping it loosly until djok hit it long. This is BEAUTIFUL.


vor Says:

I am just wondering, how many other 30 years old can play like Roger?


Fed is God Says:

Rafa fans would be enjoying this now.


Kimmi Says:

needs to hold now. important hold coming up!


madmax Says:

We’ll see Aravind.

Federer has to stay focussed though.

High quality match for sure. It’s close.

Both players are just brilliant.

Come on Fed!

You can do it!

Serve it out. Then comes the most difficult part of the match.

Serve well fed.


madmax Says:

stay steady fed.

Stay steady.

Come on!


i am it Says:

Madmax, I will say more during the final on Monday, if you are still around.


Fed is God Says:

I guess Nole has to look for a better EGG. This EGG is not good enough to beat the Fed.


vor Says:

Roger 2 sets up !


Kimmi Says:

ROGER! salute old man!

one more please!


Humble Rafa Says:

I am salivating at another US Open. LOL. I am the GOAT.


Aravind Says:

And Federer goes two sets to love.. Yaaayyy.. Seriously,,, who saw this coming? Federer is playing an unreal level of tennis, last seen when he won all five matches at the WTF 2010!!!
Needs to win this match in straights..


Vinod Says:

FED 1 more set please :)


Fed is God Says:

I am really getting pissed off thinking about Rafa’s state ofmind now.


blank Says:

Humble Rafa,

LOL! Don’t drop your guard. You still have one more match to win to get to the finals and Fed has one more set to win!


Daniel Says:

Fed is hungrier than ever, never saw so many come ons and him fighting for some points, all his shots are working fine and everytime Djoko tries to keep Fed in the backhand corner, Fed has an excellent answer.
And, he is going all the time wrong footing Djoko, which is going to be key against Nadal. We hardly had one of those points when someone win with incredible defense anticipations.


Skeezerweezer Says:

I am it,

Good to se you up here :). C’mon Fed I’ll be convinced when you win more set.


madmax Says:

This is incredible, beautiful Federer playing and amazing, fantastic Nole. Their standard of play is breathtaking.

I hate it when people bad mouth Roger and Novak.

What a match! A great match!

I just want to think about the positives of Roger, nothing else.

He doesn’t amaze me, he inspires me. He is such an inspirational man, playing incredible tennis.

Such belief from Federer!

Now, he has to hold

Come on Fed. Stay in the present.

Forget everything else. The commentators are off! Why are people so negative in their lives?

They breed off it.

Keep the focus Roger. Keep it going.

Come on!


alison hodge Says:

nole will have to come from 2 sets down to beat roger,still if anybodys capable of doing that its nole,nole will have to do it the hard way,rogers playing superb so far,his level will have to drop for nole to take advantage.


Daniel Says:

First hold of the third set is crucial for Fed. HE can afford his usual lapses. Keep pressure!!!


madmax Says:

Daniel, I know. You know when Fed says ‘Come on!’ he is hungry.

Come on though Fed!


fed is afraid Says:

fed is a god
he is too good


Eric Says:

Guys, Fed is definitely the favorite against Rafa IF they make the final. Why wouldn’t he be?


Aravind Says:

Federer’s serving has been amazing today..


i am it Says:

Hey Skeeze, good to see you are still rocking the X!!!


Daniel Says:

Told ya this game is crucial! Hold FEDDDD


Kimmi Says:

fed keep letting djoko back in this game..


Nadal is the GOAT Says:

The Fed is not dead.


blank Says:

Guys – Please stop fretting about a Fedal final. Rafa was like a monster last year and had more rest. Fed may not have been able to beat him last year. But that’s not the case this year.

I am sure Federer always plays like he wants another shot at Nadal…what else could explain his motivation during the FO SF and now? If he was fretting over it like the fans, he would have chicked out both at the FO and now…an easy excuse to lose to someone who’s playing the best tennis of his life. And that’s not happening.

If he gets to the final and meets Rafa…that’s another shot at winning a GS. Since when is losing the SF more desirable than losing the final, if losing is the only option? I don’t think that’s the only option here like ypu guys are making it seem!


tenisbebe Says:

Eric Says: “By the way… does anyone else think it’s unfair that the women’s SF matches start tonight at 7 and then they have to play their final tomorrow? They could have given then the morning slots at least, give them a chance to rest…”

CBS wanted to have a Williams match in primetime (idiots) – that was the deal when they agreed to move the men’s final to Monday 4pm. The women have had a 2 day break and are playing best of 3 so they should be fine. I’m just pissed that they’re not going to show Stosur’s match which will be on Armstrong.

Novak is looking a little more positive all of a sudden.


Nims Says:

I can only see Roger losing this match in 5 sets. Anyone else thinks otherwise.


Daniel Says:

I think Djokovic is the best returner who ever lived. He return some amazing serves in this game alone!


Kimmi Says:

c’mon fed..HOLD NOW!


Fed is God Says:

I hope Fed develops hatred against Rafa as much as he hates Nole.


tenisbebe Says:

Lordy, can’t believe Noak missed that second serve return (again) on BP….very un-2011 of him.


Green940 Says:

Because of their head to head record. Federer is mentally fragile Against nadal. He loses matches that he should be winning.


madmax Says:

Come on Fed!

Let’s focus please


Aravind Says:

Djokovic really lifting his game now..


Kimmi Says:

I knew it! he is been very shaky in that game.

Nole making a comeback now!


Gannu Says:

fed has a bad habit of complicating life these days for himself as well as for his fans ;-)


Daniel Says:

Sh…T! HAte being right. Djoko’s backhand suddenly are more flat deep and powerful, he is finding answers.


Eric Says:

Oh Roger. :/

This is playing out almost exactly like their FO match.


madmax Says:

I believe Roger will win this game Nims. I am not thinking anything else.


tenisbebe Says:

Is fed’s flat bh starting to breakdown? hope not, that has been his weapon today, along with his serve.


Nadal is the GOAT Says:

Nadal must be shitting in his pants watching Roger Federer’s form.


madmax Says:

I meant to say win the match.

Absolutely no reason to think otherwise.


Chico Says:

Federer made to work wery hard in his last service game, needs to keep them short. There’s not much between them and if Nole gets his nose in front :).. Epic stuff.


Daniel Says:

Well, it would be a dream come true beating Djoko in 3, let`s face. Djoko is just to good to lose in 3.


rogerafa Says:

FIG:Do you think Rafa is going to be doubly motivated to win the match against Murray if Federer prevails in this match? Will he treat the sf as virtually the final since he is supposedly guaranteed to win against Federer? Sure, Nadal is currently at a psychological disadvantage in his rivalry with Djokovic but I don’t think he necessarily wants to avoid Djokovic. The competitor in him will probably want to have a shot at Novak and get some revenge. In any case, this match isn’t over yet and who knows, Murray could have other ideas.


alison hodge Says:

@blank you read my mind feds feds playing great as he has all through the us open,also rafas got to get past murray yet,people counting there chickens springs to mind.


tenisbebe Says:

NITG – Nadal is probably dancing that Fed is looking in charge of this match. I’m sure he’d rather play Fed than Djoker (assuming he beats Muray).


Vinod Says:

Guys any good streaming sites ?


rogerafa Says:

FIG:Do you think Rafa is going to be doubly motivated to win the match against Murray if Federer prevails in this match? Will he treat the sf as virtually the final since he is supposedly guaranteed to win against Federer? Sure, Nadal is currently at a psychological disadvantage in his rivalry with Djokovic but I don’t think he necessarily wants to avoid Djokovic. The competitor in him will probably want to have a shot at Novak and get some revenge. In any case, this match isn’t over yet and who knows, Murray could have other ideas.


Kimmi Says:

c’mon fed, what is happening now!


Eric Says:

Vinod you can watch it on the usopen website since like 2008… unless it’s geographically restricted, dunno about that.


madmax Says:

For what it’s worth, I think that Murray is going to beat Nadal. It’s his time.

Now, Federer has to hold and remember that he can win this match.


Kimmi Says:

the serve is important, looks to come back here


madmax Says:

beautiful drop shot from novak. Well done.

Learn from this one Fed, but no worries.


Nadal is the GOAT Says:

@tenisbebe

People put too much importance into the matchup thing. What really matters is form. And Federer is in superb form, which will worry Rafa more than those past losses against Nole.


Maso Says:

Federer’s gonna have to regain his 2nd set form if he wants to take the match, Go Rog!


Ace Says:

livescorehunter.com streams live tennis


alison hodge Says:

looks like noles making a come back playing much better this 3rd set.


Gannu Says:

whats happened…? Has federer gone shopping and roger has come back? playing so poorly with so many errors? worried now


vor Says:

anyone watching the game in 3D ?


Nims Says:

I did not see a single slice BH from Roger in the 3rd set. I thought that’s the shot kept him in the rally with Novak in the first 2 sets. This is stupid tennis Roger is playing now.


madmax Says:

Federer is amazing. Just amazing.

Go Federer!

You are brilliant. The Best.

Come on!


Fed is God Says:

If Nole stretches this match to 4 or 5 sets then Rafa will well and truly win his 11th slam on Monday/


Aravind Says:

Nims,,, Federer is using his slice sparingly.. He cannot be predictable.. his slice has won him some key points, so he cannot overuse it..


Daniel Says:

What was this point?!


Kimmi Says:

what a FH, nole is MAD!


Daniel Says:

Djoko upped his level, clearly. Fed went down a notch. But this can change in a sec.


racquet Says:

Fantastic match! Momentum shift.


Vinod Says:

thanks guys livescorehunter works for me … come on FED break back ….


tenisbebe Says:

NITG – yes, of course, form is a key element (ex: Djoker 2011) however I do place alot of weight on how 2 players games matchup (not their H2H’s necessarily) – ex: Fed vs Roddick. With the exception of the 2009 Wimby, Fed KNOWS he owns him, psychologically, too.

Ah well, that’s why they play sport, cuz ya never know…


Aravind Says:

This is the difficulty for Federer against Djokovic.. He needs to be at the level he was for the first two sets to beat Djokovic. Unfortunately, he is finding it very difficult to do this in a 5 set match these days.. I am already having nightmares of Federer’s loss to Tsonga this year!!


Skeezerweezer Says:

Fed don’t Turn this into a Tsonga match, you’d better take charge again in the 4th :/


Skeezerweezer Says:

Fed don’t Turn this into a Tsonga match, you’d better take charge again in the 4th :/


Kimberly Says:

missing the match but my pro texted me that fed is hitting the xrap out of the ball


Chico Says:

Seems my stream is lagging a bit, but as I see it Roger needs to save energy, Nole has more percentage in his shots whereas Fed needs the energy to be able to stay focused so he can keep the attack to contain Nole.

If Fed looses the sharpest edge, Nole is going to catch him. If the third set stretches out and Nole wins, advantage Nole. If, if..

Or then Nole is just going to blast Fed of the court – wow!


alison hodge Says:

this is turning into a realy exciting game,i think it might go 5 sets,long way to go,but if djoko wins this set and the next,i think he will have the edge in the 5th set.


Aravind Says:

Quick hold by Federer to come take the game and go 2-4.. Is this game going to change the momentum again? Djokovic can’t keep hitting so aggresively without making an error or two


Gannu Says:

Skeezerweezer Says:
Fed don’t Turn this into a Tsonga match, you’d better take charge again in the 4th :/
Lol ;-) Now this is the new federer syndrome..losng matches with 2 set leads! Hope he doesnt repeat again


madmax Says:

I believe this match is Fed’s to lose, but I have the faith in him that he will make it happen for him.

He can win this match, but then so can Novak.

It is very close, but a great match nevertheless.

Come on Fed!


Aravind Says:

Now Djokovic makes a quick hold to go up 5-2.. Federer needs to hold here and make Djokovic serve out.. It is ok to lose the set, but he cannot concede too much momentum by going down two breaks..


Eric Says:

Don’t you think it’s a bit premature to start talking about a 5th set as if it’s guaranteed when the third isn’t even over yet…?


madmax Says:

This is to be expected though, yes? That Federer’s game is going to slip a bit after two high powered, high quality sets and Novak’s will improve. I expected this to happen.

But Fed will be on his guard. I think he probably going to pull out all the stops in the fourth set.

Come on Fed!


Eric Says:

” It is ok to lose the set, but he cannot concede too much momentum by going down two breaks..”

Lol… this isn’t how tennis works, dude. “Momentum” is a mostly BS concept that commentators use to talk about where the match is going, but it’s not real. Nole lost the third set at Wimbledon 1-6 before sealing the deal over Rafa in the fourth.


Nims Says:

Roger is making a ridiculous mistake of losing this match in 5 sets. This is going to sap Novak’s enery in the finals which Nadal can take advantage of.


alison hodge Says:

god i hope the muzza rafa game is as good as this one.


Skeezerweezer Says:

Well i was out playing tennis myself, and came back to catch the 3rd just starting. Fed hasn’t looked great so far in this set. Sounds like he played well in the first 2. But he seems a little to casual this set, and you can’t give Nole any reason to believe.


Aravind Says:

Eric, the Wimby final was not a close match like this one.. Here both sets were very close.. In the third set in Wimbledon, Djokovic went to sleep! Here it is not the same.. In the Wimby final, Nadal never looked like winning.. Here it is not the same..


madmax Says:

Well done Federer.

Keep it going man. Stay focussed and just remember that you can do it! You can, man. Just do it.

Come on Fed! Pull out the stops if you must, but however you do it, just win it.


Kimmi Says:

tto much time for fed in that fh. c’mon


Nadal is the GOAT Says:

Guys don’t worry. There’s ZERO chance of this being a repeat of the Tsonga Wimby match. This is more like the Nole RG match. Roger Federer will win this in 4 sets.


Daniel Says:

The ball is being raped today, poor thing!


alison hodge Says:

good come back from nole game on.


Daniel Says:

We are going at least 3 hours.


Kimmi Says:

4th set..


Swiss Maestro Says:

Madmax :

Good on you for keeping the Federer flag flying high. Irrespective of the result, this match should knock some sense into rafat@rds who think nadal having a 17-8 H2H gives him a free pass to be the best player of all time. Unfortunately that is not how tennis works.

Federer has troubled a guy having his best year and has had made total mincemeat of rafa in their 5 encounters this year. Rafa has won 1 set in the last 10 sets he has played against novak. Tennis is about match ups. It is the results against the field that matter the most.

In 2004, rafa beat a new no.1 roger 3 and 3 in miami. come the us open a-rod, who did not have even 1 win over Roger that year, whipped rafa, literally. if you watch the video, you will actually see rafa being hit on the mouth by a roddick serve and rafa bleeding.

Roger is a genius ( he is like muhammad ali, in that sense) that he makes sport – which is most closely linked up to battle/war by most people, look like art. He makes tennis at the top level look so darn easy. He moves like a butterfly and stings like a bee, like mr. ali. That is a special gift only few mortals are blessed with.


Maso Says:

And 4th set, here we go. Come on, Rog, get your focus back and finish this one in four.


Skeezerweezer Says:

Bad news; Fed loses the 3rd.
Good news; Fed starts serving in the 4th


Aravind Says:

Djokovic takes the third set.. He has been so great this year, winning in straights against him is close to impossible.. Let us see how the fourth goes.. Federer needs to start well..


Daniel Says:

GO ROGER!


Humble Rafa Says:

Roger is making a ridiculous mistake of losing this match in 5 sets. This is going to sap Novak’s enery in the finals which Nadal can take advantage of.

No! I want Roger for the final. No Djoker for me.


Skeezerweezer Says:

SM
Awesome post


madmax Says:

Swiss Maestro,

Good to see you here.

This is a great match. I am loving the way both players are playing. Of course I want Roger to win, and I believe he will, but this is the set he has to do it in.

I don’t even want to think about any final, I am staying well and truly in the present.

Novak has improved, but to be expected, but I see Federer still as the winner. If he doesn’t win, I will wish Novak all the very best in the final.

Come on Fed, if you want to win this, then you are going to have to be THAT good! and you are, oh yes.


Kimmi Says:

c’mon dont be broken early again fed!

4 break points hmmm


Aravind Says:

Federer has left Arthur Ashe and Federror makes an appearance!


Eric Says:

Oh crap, not a good start for Roger…


Craig Says:

Swiss Maestro Says:

Tennis is about match ups. It is the results against the field that matter the most.

What would you say if Rafa ends up with 2 slams in 2011 ?
This is very much possible now.


alison hodge Says:

i would love to see this match going to a 5th set,the quality of tennis has been so high from both men.


Maso Says:

Damn, nightmare scenario, early break for Djoko.


Kimmi Says:

break! oh dear. bad start for fed! too dad he cant keep this up


Daniel Says:

Unfuckinbelievable!!!! How Djoko returned that ball?!

Damm, this feels like Tsonga Wimby, Fed got broken to open set 3, 4 and 5. HE already was broken set 3 and 4 first time he served, not god at all.


madmax Says:

Go roger, please! Just do it!

Come on!

Regroup and focus this set.


Nadal is the GOAT Says:

Federer will DEFINITELY win this match. STILL. No need to panic. The Djerk has no right to win this match. Please DON’T blow this lead Roger Federer.


Daniel Says:

Unfuc***ingbelievable!!!! How Djoko returned that ball?!

Damm, this feels like Tsonga Wimby, Fed got broken to open set 3, 4 and 5. HE already was broken set 3 and 4 first time he served, not god at all.


Eric Says:

This is becoming painful to watch… where is the Fed from the first two sets, the one who mixed it up and played with pace, precision, power, and passion? Why has this guy who just hits the ball around aimlessly and shanks it every 2 minutes taken his place? argggghhhhh


Gannu Says:

its all over i am going off to sleep…no hopes madmax… u are the sole flag bearer now! really tired…and i feel even roger looks spent.. this is wat happens when u are 30 i guess…


madmax Says:

Fed is not going to let this match get away from him. I need someone else here to reiterate this.

There has to be a change in momentum from federer and soon.

He’s got a day’s rest tomorrow.

Federer. You are giving too much away right now to Novak.

Come on!


tenisbebe Says:

Neither is serving like they were the first set, but Novaks’ hitting his shots deeper these past 2 sets….


Vinod Says:

FED’s level dropped :(


Aravind Says:

This is Federer’s problem these days.. Nothing less than his best will do against Djokovic and he cannot sustain his best over five sets..


tenisbebe Says:

ok fed’s changing tactics….let’s go.


Nims Says:

Looks like the match is between a No 1 player and No 30 player in the world. Hope Novak closes this quickly.


madmax Says:

I am it,

I can see you writing your negative report already, which has put me in an English mood to match the weather.

Thanks.

You used to be so positive I am it, what happened to you?


tenisbebe Says:

oh no….here come the idiotic comments from the Djoker camp….


Craig Says:

Ever since Fed won his last GS he has become a best of three sets specialist.
He can never ever beat a quality opponent in best of 5 matches.


madmax Says:

A bit harsh Nims.

If Novak wins, he will have played a 5 setter against the tennis player that should have won the match. But that isn’t going to happen. I might just be trying to convince my self, I don’t care right now.

Whoever wins this match, I want to win the final, or for Murray to win his first one.

It’s murray’s time.

For now, I am going off track because of some negative comments, so I can’t discuss this any more.

Come on Roger!


Daniel Says:

This just show how good is Djoko right now. HE maintained the same level entire match, and went up a bit this last 2 sets. Amazing the level Fed had to play to win first 2.


Aravind Says:

Djokovic serving really well now :(


Kimmi Says:

hmm, things dont look good for fed! he better wake up..or it will be wimbledon all over again.


madmax Says:

Roger is doubting himself.

This isn’t what he planned.

It’s now or never.

Break him Roger.

Come on!

5 sets? Please no.

Do you know what everyone, I am going to relax now into this and do some breathing.

I am going to stay calm.


Daniel Says:

And it is a testimony to how good Fed is on this court. If he loses, it will be again in 5 sets (2009 to DelPo in 5 and last year to Novak in 5) since 2003.


Skeezerweezer Says:

Flat out Nole has picked it up another gear, and Fed is going to have to repsond or else. He has the skill to do it. But this match needs a change of momentum soon.


Daniel Says:

Wow, Now Fed lost his forehand, he is missing a lot long in the baseline.
At least the serve is still excellent.


Maso Says:

This is really bad. Federer’s level has dropped tremendously since the 2nd set and he’s just not finding it again.


Daniel Says:

We are going to a fifth, again!!


Maso Says:

CRAP! Looks like we’re going to a fifth and it’s really not looking good for Roger at all.


i am it Says:

Looks like we are going the distance. We have a match and it is back to 50-50, with momentum on Djoko’s side.


Aravind Says:

Two breaks down now.. Nole is the favorite now..


Kimmi Says:

another break. definitely 5th set..and federer does not look like he has a chance in the 5th


Eric Says:

Federer is totally screwed. His form has gone all to hell this set, and there’s no way he’s coming back to win it now. The best we can hope for is a tiebreak in the fifth set.

I don’t understand how this is happening – the third set was just a bit of an unfortunate fluke, one bad game (well deserved by Novak of course) – but now he’s abysmal… What on earth is going on??


Maso Says:

If things go on like this, Federer’s gonna get creamed in the fifth. Please, Roger, wake the hell up!


Dory Says:

I was SO heartbroken after the one sided affair at 2 sets to 0 and now Nole’s back!


madmax Says:

Guys, I am out of here.

I can’t stand the negative comments coming from all angles.

Good luck to all fans and to special duro and jane.

I hope that Federer changes the momentum, but you can discuss this between yourselves.

Okay Roger. Good luck and do what you can man.

Always the best.


Daniel Says:

I think something triggers in Djoko’s mind when he is close to losing and he reaches this almost perfect status. He started hitting hard and going to the lines more, center, right and left.

MAybe Fed is feeling age as well, seem he can’t maintain the level for long streches anymore. BUt it ain’t over yet!


Nadal is the GOAT Says:

I think Roger Federer is saving up his energy and form for the 5th set. I still think Federer has about 90% chance of winning the 5th set.


racquet Says:

Post AO 2010 Fed has shown up. Shanks and BH misfiring. And 2011 Nole has reappeared. Can’t see him coming back now.


Dory Says:

This new Novak should be enough to beat whoever reaches the final tomorrow from the other semi.


Eric Says:

Fed has only won 7 out of 30 points so far in this set.


Kimmi Says:

maybe for the best…its better to lose to djoko than rafa


Daniel Says:

Guys, this also mess with your mind, when you have huge lead and start losing. Novak this year never was in this situation, he came back a lot, but never was close to lose a match he was in control.
Murray did it as well in Wimby this year.

Djoko reaches his peak right now. HE is playing the best hard court tennis he could ever play.


Eric Says:

I just don’t get this. Roger looks like he doesn’t even care who wins now. I hope he is saving energy for set 5 and not just… drifting off in his mind to his next Caribbean vacation or something.


Dory Says:

Fanboys please behave yourselves and don’t insult or hurt other fanboys.


Kimmi Says:

there is no way this federer will beat rafa in the final. no way ;(


Swiss Maestro Says:

madmax and other fed fans:

Dont lose heart! Fed’s playing the best tennis player on the planet, right now. It was going to be tough. this is not fed’s peer who federer is playing at his peak. this is a guy 6 years younger than him at the absolute peak of his powers and the peak of the sport.

Think about this, federer is the only guy to have taken 2 sets off novak in GS this year. He has done it 2 times. He just needs one more set and he is going to do everything he can.


Aravind Says:

Feel really sorry for Federer.. He is over 30, fighting like hell.. But he is just not able to win the difficult matches nowadays.. How many of us will have the mental strength to keep fighting like he is..


Daniel Says:

This game where Fed saved 2 set ponts cold be the momentum shift. Yes, he will lose the fourth, but he will enter the 5th with some hope.


Nims Says:

Why does Roger has to win this game to extend the set. He is screwing up Novak’s chances against Rafa by stretching the match.


Humble Rafa Says:

I feel like crying. Uncle Toni, please help me. Roger is losing.


Nadal is the GOAT Says:

It’s funny to see how the Roger Federer fans have so little confidence in their man. The WHOLE of 5th set is still left, and people are already writing him off?


Kimmi Says:

humble rafa – lol


Nims Says:

@Swiss, I believe Roger is going to get next set from Novak probably in next year USO.


Maso Says:

If Roger can get his serve back, the match is far from over. Tough hold here. Maybe he’ll get some energy back for the beginning of the fifth set. GO ROG!


Daniel Says:

This was the HOLD of the match.
Fed stopped the bleeding and will serve first in the fifth. If he wins his first game, we will have a triller, if he loses the game to open the set again, Djoko will run with it. Hoping for the former!!


Dory Says:

Btw they were saying this will only be their 2nd ever 5 setter although they have met 23 times!


Craig Says:

Will Federer pull out a bathroom break now ????
Thats his only hope now.


nadalista Says:

What’s wrong Fedfans? Aren’t you the ones who have been telling us that Fed is the ONLY one who can stop Novak?

Yeah of little faith…….


Kimmi Says:

too many shanks now


Swiss Maestro Says:

another boxing analogy :

this is like rocky balboa fighting that russian dude in Rocky IV. unfortunately this is not a movie and to be fair, rocky did not fight the dude a 2nd time, did he? fed already beat novak once this year.


madmax Says:

Swiss maestro,

I’m still here,

I just don’t want to enter into the discussion being surrounded by so much negativity isn’t healthy.

I was really positive at the start, until the negative comments came flying over the net.

Leave them to it and enjoy their day.


Eric Says:

Daniel, that is a very good point that he will serve first. Maybe that’s why he actually cared enough to hold serve there.


Nadal is the GOAT Says:

@Humble Rafa, LOL! Ha ha, funny! But you’re wrong. Roger Federer will DEFINITELY win this match. No doubt about that. 100% guaranteed.


Brando Says:

Fed serving 1st in 5th is crucial for his chances- massive hold! Nole is BIG favourite though.


Nims Says:

Look out for the service break in Roger’s first service game in the 5th set.


Swiss Maestro Says:

413 craig :

dont know about bathroom break, but he aint gonna cramp/ cr@p in the pressroom for sure.


Nadal is the GOAT Says:

Come on it’s 40-30 5-2. If Federer can break anything can happen.


Daniel Says:

Point to find back the form for Fed!


Nadal is the GOAT Says:

Yes! It’s DEUCE. Break him Federer!


Nadal is the GOAT Says:

If Federer breaks and makes it 5-3, he may well win this in 4 sets!


Kimmi Says:

at least fed was hitting good there..hope in the 5th


Eric Says:

Break would be bad news for Roger. He’d still be another break down.. why not just play for the fifth set.


Eric Says:

And there we go, Nole holds.


nadalista Says:

C’mon Swiss Maestro………..it’s ok to admit you’re hurting right now. No amount of digs at Rafa can hide that………or salve the pain.


Nims Says:

Looks like 20 more mins. Roger’s fans ordeal would be over. He can plan to travel back to Australia for Davis cup.


Nadal is the GOAT Says:

Well, it’s gone to the 5th. But still, Federer is in control here. No need to panic. He has the momentum now.


Maso Says:

Come on, Rog, hold on to your serve to start the set and you’re back in this!


Daniel Says:

Fed needs a flawless first game, so Djoko can feel the preassure of being behind in the score.
It is going to be like a 1 set match..


Dory Says:

Looks like the trolls have really arrived here (and posting using all sorts of user names). I am also out of here. Don’t understand why you have to insult the other player just because your favorite is winning or losing.


Humble Rafa Says:

Roger
Please take a medical time out. Then a bathroom time out. I am telling you, it works. Opponents get distracted. I need you on Monday. Please do whatever it takes.

Rafa, Toni, Xisca, Playstation and rest of Rafa’s family.


Kimmi Says:

no break here please fed!


madmax Says:

I have to ask this question to anyone who wants to answer this.

We are all deeply passionate about our favourite players, think we even know them better than themselves.

I am sat here watching Fed’s two coaches looking like robots. Mirka is chewing gum, getting excited, but the other two. Nothing. Just staring with no emotion. I am jumping up and down here, screaming at my laptop saying, C’MON ROGER! C’MON! then I look at their faces and think, GIVE roger some encouragement, a fist, a look of love, whatever, but nothing. I don’t get it.

Any coaches here who could give me a heads up or something?

Even rafa’s dad at Wimbledon this year was banging his fist on the ledge when rafa was losing to Novak. His father was angry. He showed emotion.

I need to see some emotion here.

Where is it?

That’s me done now.

I’m all passioned out.


Daniel Says:

Can’t believe Novak returned this serve, how does he do it?!


Daniel Says:

2 backhand mistakes by Djoko, he is nervous! He made 3 errors the entire 4 set and 2 already now. Hum


Nadal is the GOAT Says:

Roger Federer is in cruise control here. Cool as a cucumber. NO WAY he will lose this match!


Eric Says:

Is the Fed back????


Daniel Says:

Yeah!!!!


Maso Says:

Novak’s returning is just incredible, no doubt, Daniel. And Roger holds that first serve game, YES! Come on, Fed, come on, take this fifth set!


Nadal is the GOAT Says:

That was a fantastic hold from Roger Federer. Now break his server, Federer.


Kimmi Says:

Nadal is the GOAT – keep dreaming.

It was a good hold for roger to starts this set


Daniel Says:

The crowds are with Fed


Humble Rafa Says:

Look at my predicament (predicamento in Spanish). My match has not even started. And it has been a very bad day already.


madmax Says:

I think Roger needs to come to the net more now. He was going to the net a lot more in the first two sets.

Wow, the crowd are electric. It’s wonderful. I wish I was there.

Oh what the hell!

Come on Roger! If Annacone is blank faced and Luthri too, I’ll make the faces.

You have to just love Federer. Whatever happens, give the guy some credit.

30 years old, and we still expect him to win everything. It’s unfair.


Nadal is the GOAT Says:

It’s 15-15, a great chance for Roger Federer.


Nadal is the GOAT Says:

OK, it’s 1-1. Now, be cool and HOLD YOUR SERVE, Roger Federer.


Maso Says:

And Novak’s returning is plain scary. Roger got that point to get to 15-0, but once again, what a return!!


Daniel Says:

I am amazed with Djoko’s return this match! Fed had to go to the limits all the time.


Nadal is the GOAT Says:

WOW, Roger Federer holds to love! Now there’s no stopping him.


Daniel Says:

At least 4 more holds Fed, keep holding and eventually come with one of those vintage Federer return games to stun the opponent.


Aravind Says:

Federer tightening up his game and starting to look god again. However, he has really played with fire this match playing so poorly in the third and fourth sets.. Will this hurt him? It is yet to be seen.. After all this he still looks so calm.. How does he do it!


Eric Says:

Fed diverged from the script by getting washed out in the fourth set which he should have won to seal the match… But it looks like he’s really back, which means this match is still in the balance.

My head and gut tell me Roger can do this…but my fearful heart says otherwise.


Nadal is the GOAT Says:

YESS! It’s 0-15. Federer has a great chance to break.


Nims Says:

Can Roger ever return Novak’s 1st serve.


Nadal is the GOAT Says:

15-30!!! Come on Federer.


Aravind Says:

Novak’s return has to be among the very best in history.. Nadal also makes Federer play a sub-par game by relentlessly grinding Federer down with impeccable defense. Novak does it by neutralizing Federer’s greatest strike weapon, which is his first serve.. It is incredible how well he does it..


alison hodge Says:

come on people,still all to play for in this 5th set,its not over yet.


Blah Says:

This is beautiful tennis


Kimmi Says:

what a point!


Nadal is the GOAT Says:

Shit! That was a great chance to break for Roger Federer. Anyway, forget that. HOLD YOUR SERVER, Roger Federer.


Maso Says:

What a point by Djoko to hold!! This is a beautiful match, indeed. Hope Roger can keep holding and putting pressure on Djoko’s serve like he just did here.


Aravind Says:

Amazing rally and Djokovic holds to 2-2.. The match is so in the balance still.. The edge marginally to Djokovic


Kimmi Says:

djokovic parents has left the court..why?


Nims Says:

Novak senses a break in Roger’s serve now. It’s all going to be over soon.


Swiss Maestro Says:

Madmax:

real men dont do drama on the court. that’s for the fairer $ex. Did you think borg/sampras ever looked at their box for vindication?

Roger has won GS without a coach. multiple of them. Another reason why he is so cool. Tennis is for lone rangers. it is not like soccer/football where coaches and managers are jumping all over the stadium. tennis is an individual sport.

His old school fair dinkum tactics have netted him 16GS. No reason to change it. Keep up the faith and keep cheering Roger on.


Daniel Says:

Damm Fed is brave, he went for a second serve ace!


Nims Says:

I have rarely seen Roger hold a serve when he hits a DF.


Kimmi Says:

that wide serve helps fed


tenisbebe Says:

Nims – well this is one of those rarities….


Daniel Says:

Yeah, From now on pressure on the server, until the breaker!


Maso Says:

Difficult hold there by Fed. Getting intense!


Aravind Says:

It is amazing how aggresive Novak plays when he is under pressure.. Even Delpo does that really well(at his best!). What an amazing player Novak is


tenisbebe Says:

OK – let’s hope we have a rockin 5th with both of them playing well!


Skeezerweezer Says:

Fed is trying to pick it up in the 5th. Go Fed!


Nims Says:

Extending the match really killing Novak’s chances in the Final.


Swiss Maestro Says:

This set is other-worldly tennis like their last set in last year’s match. Two most aggressive players of the last decade duking it out on the fastest GS (?) surface on the planet. Awe-fcuk!ng some!


tenisbebe Says:

oooooh df.


Nims Says:

Aravind – you are so right. Novak just gets better when he is under pressure. That’s how he got the better of Rafa. That’s why it would be a interesting final.


Aravind Says:

Nims, there is a day’s break between this match and the final.. Rafa and Murray have played three straight days including today.. I think their match will be tight as well.. If anything Djokovic has it better thna the player coming out of the other half


Blah Says:

Both of their levels are ridiculous right now… Going for winners at the first chance and not missing


Dory Says:

I am amazed at Djokovic’s strength of character. Fighting back like this from 2 sets to 0 down.


Nims Says:

Novak has an advantage if only Rafa has an easy match against Andy. Else it’s pretty even.


tenisbebe Says:

Nims – not going to feel too sorry for any one player having to play 5 in the semis…let’s see Rafa did it in Oz vs Verdasco and then went on to win it much to all of us here at TX’s shock. Gotta start outta the gates firing on all 4′s if u want to get outta there in 3 QF’s or later with the depth in the men’s.


Daniel Says:

Moment of the truth!


Aravind Says:

Right.. Federer holds to love to go up 4-3.. We are on to the business end of the match.. Can Federer play two good games now?


Nims Says:

tenisbebe – rafa can beat roger even if he comes up after playing 5-setter in the same day. I doon’t see any surprise there.


Eric Says:

Stamina and fitness aren’t much of an issue in GS for the top 4, they are all in great shape and there’s a day off between every match (except for when the weather messes stuff up, like this year — but that all balanced out in the end). Whoever wins the final will do it because they were the better player, not because the other guy was tired.


Nadal is the GOAT Says:

0-30!!! Please please PLEASE break now, Roger Federer, please!!!!


Nims Says:

Of all the fight going on for Players union, will soneone fight against Novak’s ball bounce before the serve. Is it really legal?


Aravind Says:

Djokovic applauds a Federer winner at 3-4 0-15.. what an excellent display or sportsmanship.. YOu cannot dislike this guy..


tenisbebe Says:

nims – really???? in “08 u thought this? u must be a psychic….


racquet Says:

well well, the old man might well pull this off.


Daniel Says:

OMG, Djoko cracking!


Kimmi Says:

OH GOD!

Is this a chance for fed or what..C’mon fed!


Maso Says:

Oh, that is the wrong time to make a DF for Novak right there… come on, Rog, you have to take advantage of this!


Dory Says:

Now I know why people say Novak’s serve is not good enough.


Nadal is the GOAT Says:

0-40!!! OH YES! You’ve done it!!!!! NOW HOLD YOUR SERVE PLEASE!!!


Eric Says:

oh HELL YES! sweet revenge… and justice, the restoration of divine order, blah blah blah. Now serve it out!!!


Maso Says:

ROGER SERVING FOR THE MATCH! Go, Rog, go!


Aravind Says:

Roger gets the break and will serve for the match!! What an amazing turnaround.. Roger.. Plz hold.. Plzzzzzzz


Kimmi Says:

MISSED it, BREAK!

WOW! can federer believe it…he is serving for the match right about now!


Vinod Says:

YESSSSSSSSSS !!!!!!!!!!!!!! C’monnnnn FED !!!!!


tenisbebe Says:

Oh my!! What a topsy turvy SF!! Fun fun.


Daniel Says:

broken from love


alison hodge Says:

federer breaks,roger serving for the match.


Nims Says:

tenisbebe — yes i knew it in 80, though the match happend in 09 AO. I knew it from the clay court season of 08.


Kimmi Says:

This will be the toughest hold ever..he needs first serve..BIG ONES


Nims Says:

sorry it’s 08 not 80.


Nims Says:

Looks like Novak is ready to break Roger’s serve now.


Kimmi Says:

Djoko missed that..aaaaargh! 2 more points


Maso Says:

Two points, Roger, come on, two more points!!!


Aravind Says:

What a second serve from Federer! Two points away!


Eric Says:

Djokovic had a moment’s lapse and Fed was ready to pounce & profit from it. Just like Nole did in set 3.

The old man looks set to pull it off: 30-15…


tenisbebe Says:

What is it about the USO and Djoker? It’s like he just can’t get it done here, since 2007…


Kimmi Says:

OH dear! 2 match point. On his serve..


Maso Says:

2 match points!!


Daniel Says:

Djoko cracked, 2 secod serves misses, even with Fed serving one in the body and the other high with kick


Kimmi Says:

what a return..eeeek!


Nims Says:

This reminds me of 2 match points Roger had last year.


Eric Says:

Federer should have been ready for a big return there. But that was just way too good.


Maso Says:

WHAT A RETURN! Damn, Djokovic is just insane on the returning end. But come on, Rog, one point, one bloody point…


Chico Says:

Omg, what is happening here :)?!


Kimmi Says:

oh noo. two match point came and gooooo


Daniel Says:

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


tenisbebe Says:

Djoker’s smiling… that’s good to see. Oh shit…Deuce.


Kimmi Says:

calm down federer!


tenisbebe Says:

lordy……


Maso Says:

NOOOOO! Break point!


Eric Says:

Oh crap. Roger is ****ing this up.


Daniel Says:

This time was 2 match points on serve.


Kimmi Says:

ACE! wow!


Daniel Says:

Wow, ace!!! 2 more


tenisbebe Says:

ace baby!


Nims Says:

Can Roger win 2 consecutive pints in his service game.


Dory Says:

My brain has frozen. Almost.


Eric Says:

Djokovic’s nerve is unreal…


Daniel Says:

Djoko made a joke with the crowd and indeed disrupt Fed which was looking not liking it at all when 40-30 after that return


Kimmi Says:

DF..OK federer lost his chance. Nole to win this now


tenisbebe Says:

SHIT!!


Maso Says:

DAMNIT!!!! This is a nightmare….


Eric Says:

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaa


racquet Says:

err…maybe not.


Aravind Says:

Djoker hitting harder and harder.. Federer unable to keep up! Djokovic saves two match points and breaks!! surely he is not losing from here! God this has to hurt for Federer


Blah Says:

We want tiebreak!


Daniel Says:

FEd is pissed off. He gave a look to Djoko…


alison hodge Says:

break back nole,not over yet folks,talk about dramatic.


Dory Says:

Does everyone rememeber last year’s match? How many match points Roger had? Novak said he was just hitting his forehand as hard as he could closing his eyes.


Maso Says:

This is just terrible, Federer messed up on those match points. Little misfortune with the net but this is tennis. There’s still hope, but that’s a hell of a momentum shift.


Eric Says:

Fed better come back calm and play well, instead of dwelling angrily like often does. Like last year.


Daniel Says:

Mini film in Fed’s head. He has to try to break again, the only way. Pressure and see if Djoko’s nerve hold again.


Nims Says:

Anyone still thinks Roger has a chance in this match?


Humble Rafa Says:

I am not liking this very much.


Eric Says:

At least this match has been everything we wanted and more. Only the fourth set saw a low level of tennis, and that was only from Rog… :)


Maso Says:

Keep hoping, Fed fans, come on!! 0-15.


tenisbebe Says:

Yes Roger can win this match! It’s definitely a toss-up now.


Dory Says:

This is turning exactly into last year’s match!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Eric Says:

I think I’m going to throw up now, excuse me, everyone…


Nims Says:

Looks like WIN in sight for Novak now.


Kimmi Says:

Djokovic would want to break here!


Daniel Says:

This is just too bad.
I think Fed will be broken here and lose 7-5


Dory Says:

Just imagine how strong minded Djokovic must be and why he manages to beat Nadal.


Maso Says:

Come on, Rog, hold your serve, stay in there! Make sure it goes to a tie break, at least. Damnit, I can’t believe he was serving for the match and messed it up.


Kimmi Says:

bad feeling! not a good game this one.


tenisbebe Says:

Well you can’t say they aren’t going for their shots.


Daniel Says:

Amazing, Djoko was already ready to lose when he cracked that forehand return down 40-15. Shot of the match


stu Says:

can he do it, two years in a row??!


Aravind Says:

What a return that was from Djokovic to save the first matchpoint.. There is no player today with bigger cajones than Djoker!!


Kimmi Says:

break coming up!


Eric Says:

Oh no, oh no, oh no. Roger’s spirit is broken, he’s just out there waiting to lose again. You can see it. This is over.


Kimmi Says:

BREAK! Nole to win this one now…respect!


van orten Says:

Wow he doesn’t deserve this


Daniel Says:

Feel so sad for Federer, this is worst than Wimby 2008.


Aravind Says:

What a heartbreak this is for Roger.. Commiserations Roger fans.. There is no shame in losing this match to this amazing player!!


i am it Says:

Go Djoko, and go P-Diddy for his cheer.


Maso Says:

What a nightmare… what the hell is wrong with Roger these past years? He just can’t seem to finish matches like he used to do. Del Potro in 09, Djoko in 2010, Tsonga at Wimby, here again… this is just terrible. I mean, I love Djokovic so I don’t mind that much, but still, this is plain depressing.


Kimmi Says:

TOO BAD! 2 match points, on his serve.


tenisbebe Says:

wow what a match!!


Daniel Says:

No way Djoko will lose the final, only if he twist his ankle sliding.


Aravind Says:

How can two matches in two consecutive years between the two same players have the exact same script!


Dory Says:

But but I still can’t believe it! 15-40 Match point down! And Novak manages to do this two years in a row!!!!! Last year’s match I was equally shocked and speechless.


Kimmi Says:

federer trying to go for it but his balls are going out


Nims Says:

What a waste of energy is this for Novak.


Maso Says:

I can’t believe what I’m seeing. Exactly like last year. This is nuts.


Dory Says:

Only this year the difference will be Novak won’t be worn down completely against Nadal thanks to his improved fitness.


New Tennis Racquets Says:

Really hoping that Federer can hold on to the match against Djokovic. The crowd really seems to be determining the winner! US Open is delivering!


tenisbebe Says:

Roger has not been able to advantage of Nole’s 2nd serve.


Kimmi Says:

chip and charge….no!


Maso Says:

Roger, COME ON, you have to do something on the second serve, this is insane! That was a gift!


Kimmi Says:

2 match point nole


Dory Says:

A salute to the champion and the world no. 1.


Nims Says:

It’s all over.


Kimmi Says:

Congrats djokovic..what a match!

Too bad for fed!


Maso Says:

I think I’m gonna go hang myself now.


i am it Says:

Congrats to Nole, a big win from 2 sets down !!!


Eric Says:

Unbelievable. Roger has some big, big explaining to do. 40-15 serving for the match and you eff it up? What? WHAT?


Dory Says:

Fed said last year in the press conference he never should have lost that match. Feel heartbroken for him.


Ben Pronin Says:

How do you win 16 slams and choke like that. Great effort from Djokovic but the heart break for Federer continues.


Eric Says:

So undeserved.


tenisbebe Says:

Congrats to Nole (and to Fed) – they put on a great show! Dory – he’s not the champion yet :-)


Nims Says:

I just have a secret feeling Roger probably tanked the match to avoid facing Rafa. Nothing to take away from Novak.


Daniel Says:

WTF….

Well, the only consolation is that Djoko is on a mission. No way he is going to lose the final.

God, what must be passing in Federer’s mind. Though brilliantly and bow out, since 2002 this is the first year he does’t win a Slam.

Super congrats Djoko, what a champion!!


racquet Says:

And he does it again! Incredible. Federer can’t seem to close out matches these days unfortunately. Anyway it was a privilege to watch what is definitely one of the top 3 matches of 2011.


Maso Says:

… He NEVER should have lost this one. NEVER. You’re up 2 sets, serving for the damn match in the 5th set… Blah, there are no words for this. Roger needs to sort this shit out, he just doesn’t know how to finish a big match anymore, what the hell…


van orten Says:

Fed deserved to win…congrats to djoker!!!


Nadal is the GOAT Says:

YAHOOO!!!!! ROGER FEDERER HAS LOST!!!! WELL DONE, NOLE!!! HA HA HA, THE FED HAS LOST!!! I’M SOOOOOOOOO HAPPY!!


Eric Says:

Federer… I can understand the dips in form, the up and downs of his past few years, the losing to random opponents, the difficulties with old and new rivals…. what I can’t understand is what the heck is going on in his head in these matches that he chokes away. Two years in a row now. What on earth.


Dory Says:

Fed should look at the positives. He did beat Novak at FO this year.


blank Says:

Heartbreaking! But that’s life. Congrats to Nole and his fans.


marrisv Says:

Feel bad for Roger…


Daniel Says:

OMG, can’t wait to see which is going to be the headline in Tennis-x?! Hahahahaha


Blah Says:

the number one is definitely here to stay. Fed didnt choke till deuce on his serve, djoker took those two match pts down.


Maso Says:

Yeah, what a positive… He should have beaten him today. Plain and simple. No discredit to Djoko, but Federer choked this one away and this is truly depressing. If this were the first time, it’d be okay, but it’s becoming a trend. Not even sure I got the motivation to watch the second semi, this is so depressing…


Dory Says:

@Ben Pronin, exactly my thoughts. How DO you win 16 slams and choke like that? Poor Fed. But his records remain unbeaten.


Goonie Says:

While Roger should have close the match at 40:15, I was utterly shocked by the extremely unfair behaviour of Novak, making fun of the opponent, stirring up the crowd, clapping etc. Frankly, this is far from classy and very cheap. It was obvious Roger was shocked by such antics.


simba Says:

Phew, Roger just dodged being potentially humiliated by Nadal again.


Anon Says:

Sigh, I feel numb.

Congrats to Nole and his fans. Come on Nole, now that you have taken out my man, go all the way and lift the trophy.


Dory Says:

And will always remain unbeaten.


Brando Says:

Djokovic: brilliant play and fightback. Federer: he choked no 2 ways about it. Once nole made it 2-2 then I felt he would win, but 2 match points andnon your own serve- I can’t believe a 16 time grand slam champion choked on his serve life like that!!!


Brando Says:

Djokovic: brilliant play and fightback. Federer: he choked no 2 ways about it. Once nole made it 2-2 then I felt he would win, but 2 match points andnon your own serve- I can’t believe a 16 time grand slam champion choked on his serve like that!!!


Dory Says:

Losing to Nadal again in the final would certainly be more painful for Roger.


Eric Says:

I guess this is the new story of Roger — outplay your opponents for just long enough to make it look good, then choke away the lead and spiral out of control, then crash and burn while trying to get out of the spiral.

What sucks is that I don’t even think being 30 has anything to do with it. His problem is mostly mental, it’s clear, and it’s surfaced so many times already this year. I don’t think he can ever win another slam; it was going to be here, now, and it SHOULD have been here and now, but — there are no words for it… 2011 will be the last hurrah of Roger as a serious force at the top levels of tennis if he doesn’t find some way to get over this crap.


simba Says:

Goonie and Fed cultists always attack other players’ character when their man was beaten fair and square. Who is really low class, here? Just saying.


Skeezerweezer Says:

Congrats to Nole. They both had there nervous moments but Novak could always go back to the well and get more water.

Novak will win this event. His is playing like a true champion.

Will aways be a Fed fan, love to watch him play, but nowadays it is torturous. He will still hold the best ever title when he is gone, am confident about that.


Eric Says:

But yeah, I hope now Djokovic rolls over whoever he faces in the final. He should be able to do it.


kriket Says:

Wow, ubelievable. Đoko refuses to lose. I mean even I said to myself “oh, no it’s over” after Fed broke him for 5:3 and served for the match, but what a comeback, AMAZING. No thank you note to Roger from Nadal this time round. He’s toast! :)


Golf is barely a Sport Says:

Jim Courier once said no one is above a choke. Novak played a great shot to get it to 40-30. The next point if Fed’s forehand does not hit the net cord he wins the match, but it was only deuce. A server generally holds as he has an advantage. Novak choked vs. Roger back in 2007 when he had 5 set points in the first set on his own serve. They are even now?


Brando Says:

NOBODY should Take anything away from nole. 0-2 down, 2 match points down, it takes class to win from there. BUT federer choked plain and simple. He said he should have won last year but here 2 match points on his own serve! WTF!!! I cannot see him winning a grand slam now.


blank Says:

If Federer thinks that losing to Nadal in the finals would have been better compared to choking on match points to Djokovic in the SF 2 consecutive years, he can then quit.

He goes 2-0 up against the hottest player on tour…he has match points..that just tells me there is nothing wrong physically…but as you age, the mental abilities and the capacity to concentrate certainly wanes and it’s unfortunate for Federer to go down this way!


Eric Says:

Djoko plays like a demon when his back is up against the wall. This is a hugely important asset – Rafa has it too, and even Murray (tho’ he’s got other stuff going on under the hood too). I don’t think Federer ever did, though; he was always a great front runner, and now even that’s gone. How many matches has he choked away now? Shameful. I guess that’s just the pessimistic view though; it’s ridiculous that he’s still able to make these things so competitive against people a million years younger than him in tennis terms.


Maso Says:

It’s hard being a Fed fan these days, no doubt about it. Being a SF Giants fan, I know what torture is like but with Federer choking away matches like that, it’s becoming unbearable. I won’t stop cheering for the guy till he retires, and major congratulations to Novak for reaching the final here again, I really hope he wins the final. But this is getting harder and harder. Hope Rog can get that mental aspect of his game together for 2012.


Vinod Says:

utterly disappointed …. 2 match points on his own serve WTF ??? 2 years in a row :(


Blah Says:

I have no idea what u guys r talking about fed choking on his two match pts, he made two good/great first serves, both which were thwarted by djokovics great returns. First one was outwide which unless djok hit that winner, fed wouldve put away with an,inside out fh, second was a great serve into the body that djoker managed to get back with depth/pace. After that tho, fed started spraying his fh and lost his attacking firepower.


Dory Says:

Yes this year it WILL be different for Novak. It’s miraculous how Djokovic rose after last year’s loss to Nadal. SIMPLY MINDBLOWING.


Daniel Says:

We have to look at the Match points. Djoko was lucky.

1 – 40-15 Fed gave an excellent serve, Djoko coded his eyes and smacked the ball, it went crosscourt in the line.

2 – Fed gave another ecelent body serve and Djoko made a reflex return, he just moved his body and returned a week ball, which force Fed in, with no pace and Fed gave a ball which touched the net. If that ball hit the net and landed on Djoko’s side the match would be over.

It were 2 points that they not even played, so Djoko could feel the pressure. He won the match on his return, which is his most perfect shot!


Aravind Says:

Fed fans, don’t be too harsh on him.. Novak has had a stellar year.. If he wins the US open final(IMO he is a favorite no matter who is on the other side of the court), remember that the player that stood between Novak and the calendar year slam was a 30 year old beyond his peak Federer..


Daniel Says:

Damm Blah, we post basically the same!:)


madmax Says:

There was no tanking from Federer at all. The most ridiculous statement of the century.

I am it, I will be interesting to see what you write about Federer. Probably be completely unfair, tell you what, write him off, say how crap Roger played and that he is over. That will keep everyone one happy.

Duro, I can’t speak to you right now, but well done to your man.

I am of course, so disappointed that Roger blew this, but I completely understand, 2 match points for godsake, it’s annacone that has all the talking to do. I don’t rate him at all.

Its so disheartening that when people post in a negative way, you create your own reality. It’s a self fulfilling prophecy.

What went wrong?

Margot I hope for your sake that Murray wins today. I watched his interview, he was charming, for the first time I felt this was his time. So good luck to you.

Crap crap crap.


Brando Says:

@ dory: NO WAY would a loss to nadal be less painful. Had roger not had 2 match points and been 2-0 in sets up, then YES better to lose to nole. But what is the point of playing if all you do is choose who to lose to? Or is it his fans who think like that? Simply put he CHOKED and at is a crying shame that it happened.


Eric Says:

Daniel, you’re calling that WICKED return at 40-15 lucky?? That’s crap.

And yes, the net cord cost Roger the match, but it was still his serve, it was still only deuce – he choked it away. bah humbug


Dory Says:

But Federer has had good results even after matches like these. He won the World Tour Finals. And reached the semis of AO and final of FO. Djokovic also gets nervous doesn’t he? Fed is not the only one affected. Why not just accept what happened? They are both professionals and Novak was destined to win again.


Tennis is my game Says:

goonie – well this is what he does, always has. he’s an attention-seeker, just like Connors was only Connors obvious attempts were despicable. Love watching his tennis – it’s all the other crap that’s annoying. The dancing, the antics the kid is so insecure outside of his tennis, it’s pathetic. Just now he was trying to butter up the crowd by insinuating that it’s a great venue because it’s so loud but when he’s down he bitches nonstop about the crowd. What a poser.


Kimberly Says:

painful…..i almost hope murray wins, but not quite! I wrote a post on this topic before. Gotta root for Rafa although I admit the idea of watching him get his butt kicked by Nole again in less than appetizing.


Vinod Says:

When will FED get that 17 th slam ????


Mila Says:

OMG
LOL
etc…

PROUD TO BE NOVAK’S FAN!!!

Nothing more to say for now. Words escape me!


Brando Says:

I for 1 hopes nadal wins and I actually think rafa can beat nole. This is clearly a perfect oppurtunity for rafa. Win here and he’ll silence up alot of detractors. Lose? Well played nole onto the next one!


Kimberly Says:

sorry skeezer, eric, madmax, kimmi, blank, gannu and all the die hard true fed fans here.


Eric Says:

At least now I can root wholeheartedly for Nole. Is he as “good” as Roger was in 2006? I don’t know. He’s definitely less wizardly, but he moves the ball like a machine. Love his precision and power.


Dory Says:

O dear they just reminded me that Nadal hasn’t lost a set yet.


Eric Says:

And now back to work… too much to do, can’t afford to watch the Rafandy showdown. Best of luck to both of ‘em and I hope it’s half as great as this semi was!


Eric Says:

Dory, Rafa hasn’t played anyone in the top 20 yet. :)


Cbeast Says:

I am so depressed right now I have no words to describe it


Daniel Says:

Eric,

A 29 year old Fed still managed a final in RG. He is still way above the others, RG has only 3 people who can actually win it, Nadal, Fed and Djoko. WImby, only 3 (Djoko, Nadal and Fed), ok 4 Murray may win it if somebody else beats Nadal, and in US Open he lost 3 straight years in 5 sets, so he is still looking good in Slams. Eventually a look draw will come or not. But we can’t say that a guy on his 30 that displayed the tennis we saw today, can’t win a Grand Slam again?!


Mila Says:

There is one word in Serbian language that cannot be translated in any other language:

INAT

That is what made Novak beat Federer.

Also very proud of Novak’s behaviour after the last point – no classless finger wagging like some expected…

True human number 1, with personality that dances with random fans in locker rooms…


Cbeast Says:

I hate the world lol Why! why!


Dory Says:

Look Federer fans (I am one too) but if Roger loses without choking in the final to Nadal, his tally and rcords only increase and they pose a threat to Federer’s records. Losing from match point IS disappointing but I still think losing badly to Nadal again and worsening his head to head and boosting Nadal’s Slams to 11 would be worse for Roger.


blank Says:

Thanks Kimberly. Good luck to your guy in the next match. Though I don’t really expect Federer to win Grand Slams these days, this one is hard to swallow. But that’s life and it’s time to move on. At least I can watch the rest of the matches without undue pressure.

I am # 8 in the US open site bracket challenge. If Djokovic beats Murry in the finals, I think I will finish on top. But unfortunately, I just entered the challenge for fun and the prizes for winning it are only for US residents I guess. I hope I don’t win. So Nadal has to win today or else Murray has to beat Djoko! :-)


Aravind Says:

My bet is on Murray today. Rafa has not played any good players till now.. He has looked good, but Murray is going to be a different kettle of fish


Blah Says:

I do feel bad for federer tho…. The way he was playing the first 8 games of the fifth set, no one could beat him, but nowadays its s tale of two federers, after the ninth game, his first serve wasnt deadly and went away, his fh started shooting in unforced errors, and he started to look passive and very mortal, its getting harder and harder to win 5th setters for him. I hope he can get his 17th at uso next year.


Anon Says:

I wouldn’t call Nole’s win “lucky” by any means. He was relentless and created his own luck.

Yes, it’s true Roger was 2 sets up and had 2 MP, but Nole refuses to go away. He competed. Let’s give credit where credit’s due.

I need a stiff drink. It’s torturous to be a Fed fan nowadays.


Ben Pronin Says:

Federer better have a damn good reason to have tanked… I don’t think he did though. He choked. Unfortunately.

Nonetheless, he played great. If he can work out the mental cobwebs, he’s getting slam 17. I’ll keep believing that until he finally retires without one.


Dory Says:

It IS a rock paper scissors situation. Tomorrow Novak will prove it if Nadal reaches the final.


tfouto Says:

Djoko sometimes he’s a child…

Djoko might think he can force people to root for him. Federer has 16GS, Djoko has 3 maybe 4 monday. How can he wants support when he’s totally unlegant contrary to Roger and achive much less in his carreer yet?

He needs to grow in number of GS titles like 4x and in maturity/personality.


Eric Says:

Daniel, not if he can’t serve out matches from 40-15, avoid dropping 5-2 set leads (like he did to Rafa), and quit having stretches of terrible form (4th set here, or the two he lost like 6-1 6-2 last year to Nole…). This is the second slam match he’s lost this year after being up 2 sets to 0, and the third he’s lost after comprehensively outplaying the opponent for long stretches (RG).


Dory Says:

But head to head doesn’t count MORE than total records and Federer’s will remain forever unbeaten by a MARGIN.


Brando Says:

Where does federer go from here? By AUS 2012 it shall be 2 years since his last slam win, he’ll be aged 30, he struggles with rafa and now you can add nole to that list.


Eric Says:

Clearly he’s still good enough to win a slam, but he’s got some mental issue. If he stops choking, then we can talk.


Vinod Says:

For a change I hope atleast the next grandslam has a different semifinalists …. Congrats Nole ….


madmax Says:

Self fulfilling prophecies. I don’t know what to say right now.

8 years. First time in 8 years thta FED HASN@T WON A SLAM>

That’s amazing. Just feel sorry for Roger right now. he must be depressed. I know I am.

God, I feel crap

So the reflection starts.

Why is it the trolls come out to attack federer? No class.


Daniel Says:

Eric,

YEs I am, I lay tennis regularly nd some times, you just feel, I will smack the ball and try the most difficult shot I could hit. And that was exactly what Djoko did 40-15 down already ready to lose. The serve came to his forehand and he hit it. But only because he is the best return ever. Actually I have ti rephrase it, It was Fed BAD luck!


Daniel Says:

Oh, HAve you ever saw anyone hit a return winner like that in a match point down in a Semi final r final match n a Grand Slam, EVER?!


Blah Says:

Murray and nadal are playing for second place… And as long as fed runs into murray and avoid nadal in the slams, he has a shot. going off memory, his last four slams came against soda, two against murray, one against roddick. (i still dont believe murray will win a slam with top 3 still there)


margot Says:

Wow,astonishing final set! So many congratulations to Nole and his loyal fans, especially jane and nina :):)


tfouto Says:

Daniel. Bad luck. I dont bite it. Federer chocked and Djoko played great with a i dont care attitude. It was a combination of those two.


Swiss Maestro Says:

Fed choked? come on guys 30year old playing against a 24year old in the peak of his career? look at federer’s peers… where are they? thousands of miles behind in the rearview mirror.

When push comes to shove, who is going to want it more? the 3time slam champ who is 6years younger or the 30year old? even raf@tards can answer that.

madmax and other roger fans, if you think you got it hard, think about our hero. he needs us to keep ploughing through. he has many more years of tennis in him and if he keeps making the business end, he will get atleast a slam or two. believe me. he wouldn’t be on the tour if he didn’t believe so.


alison hodge Says:

congrats to nole and his fans on a great come back,snatching victory from the jaws of defeat,and sorry to roger and his fans i know how much you must be hurting.


Swiss Maestro Says:

is it better to have match points and lose or win only 1 set in the last 10set? who wants to answer that?


Skeezerweezer Says:

Novak is playing very special this year, sublime, there is no denying it. He is going to be one tough hombre in the final, no matter who he faces. What he is showing in his matches is mental fortitude. Everyone is pointing at the physical, but this was a prime example of the mental confidence and belief he has. Fed, in crunch time, simply did not believe he could do it.


Eric Says:

What I will say is that Roger has surprised me this year. He played Rafa (and Nole) better than I could have hoped at RG, looked fantastic at Wimby until 90 minutes into the match with Tsonga, got a lot further at the USO and waaay more dominantly than he could have (same at the AO, although I had higher expectations then because of his great end of 2010). His form is still there, in fact it might be better than ever, but he still has some things to work on.

Doesn’t Nole work with a sports psychologist? It sounds kind of hokey, but maybe Roger should look into that too.


Brando Says:

Eric is right. Roger never loses from 2 sets up in his entire career and now he does so TWICE in his last 4 tourny’s! I am a nadal fan, so obviously I do not have the same feeling for roger as his own fans but it is terribly sad to see the record grand slam holder fade like this. He had rhe tsonga match and today and yet he slipped up. TRAGIC:-(


Blah Says:

If a 16 slam winner feels the need to tank at a last grandslam semi just cause hes afraid of another player, might as well retire and give back the slams. Do u ppl know what pride is?


Eric Says:

” What he is showing in his matches is mental fortitude. Everyone is pointing at the physical, but this was a prime example of the mental confidence and belief he has. Fed, in crunch time, simply did not believe he could do it.”

Quite true.


Daniel Says:

God, look how slow is Murray x Rafa


blank Says:

@Swiss Maestro:
I am a die hard fan of Federer and always will be. But to put it simply, he choked today. It’s hard to take as a fan but he is human and I can live with accepting such losses and still enjoy him play.


Daniel Says:

guys mental fortitude spends with age, the same way the body can’t handle it anymore, so does the mind. Why do you think they retire, because is the moment they feel in their heads they can’t take it anymore, if not everybody should play until 40-45. Tennis is a sport you can play forever


simba Says:

@Swiss Maestro,

Keep on ploughing. He would have quit if Olympics were 3 years away or on clay. He stuck his neck out to try rounding out his resume with a singles Gold. That is a wrong reason to keep on playing.


alison hodge Says:

looking forward to muzza and rafa now,come on muzza our little red devil,margot hope you are wearing your red adidas shirt.


Dory Says:

I agree about the sports psychologist part. Fed should definitely see one. It helps a lot.


blank Says:

Daniel:
Exactly what I have been trying to say. If fitness is what counts, everyone can play till they are 40 and still compete. But at sometime as you age, you lose the concentration, drive etc


Blah Says:

Watching murray and nadal matchup after that djok fed matchup is rather…a let down


Daniel Says:

Even Djoko said he got lucky in the interview! IS lucky because he scape, not to remove his merits.


Daniel Says:

Murray is trying to finish the points on his terms, this is good.


margot Says:

Cheers Madmax, but am not very confident :( Whoever wins other semi, Nole just looks inbeatable at the mo. Just wont lie down and we all know how fragile mentally Andy is, even if he gets there and it’s a big if..
Don’t be down Fed fans, 16 Slams and years of being the best in the world. Much to celebrate.


Milos Says:

Poor Andy, Rafa will crush him :(


Brando Says:

@ skeezerweezer : BIG RESPECT. Your clearly not an idol worshipper but a lover of the game. I’m sorry for thenloss of your fab tonight. Even though I support rafa and wanted fed to win for obvious reasons, seeing fed lose like that was just sad. To win 16 slams you need GUTS, then to lose like that was a tough watch:-(


dari Says:

Hi guys. Missed the last set thank goodness, will NOT be watching the replay.
So sorry for fed, I thought this was it for sure, and as sad as we are, fed must be devastated. Agree with whomever said sports psycholgist!
The good news, I went to a ton of USO this year and saw the fed himself (for the first time)! from great seats.
Only thing that can save this tourney is if Murray wins it all!!!
Oh, $#!+ J mac says Andy called the trainer, ay yay.
To the mighty fed and all his fans, all i can say is this will make #17 that much sweeter!
Fed for Life!


Daniel Says:

Wow, what a point!


Dory Says:

Wow Murray looks aggressive at least initially.


Anon Says:

Murray’s body language is so negative. What’s up? It’s only early in the match.


margot Says:

alison, all in adidas red as Ike told us :)
Come on our little red devil:) even if whoever wins will be eaten by Nole..
kimberly my thoughts exactly :(


Kimmi Says:

muzza needs to serve well…


madmax Says:

Mila,

why have you turned up to troll and talk about fed’s finger? Did you read what he said about that? Clearly not. 1 finger for 1 more match to go. The final. Its the trolls who want to say different. This match was beautiful to watch. Novak is a class player but I am sorry for Federer when he could have put the match away. Eric, I think having a mentalist to help him in these clutch moments is now most necessary for Roger. Annacone needs to go. He is not helping federer in my view.

You should have stayed to watch the match rather than gloat and swear in your own language. Not classy Mila.


Kimmi Says:

murray needs to unleash the bh down the line.


Dory Says:

I just can’t get over the fact that Nadal and Federer would be bothered by someone else dominating so dangerously. NOVAK IS THE BEST FOR NOW!!!


Anon Says:

Murray can’t flatten out his cross court FH a little? Compared to Fed-Djoko match, Murray and Nadal’s play seems almost slow-mo.


Swiss Maestro Says:

@brando 546?

terrible to see him fade like this? hello? the guy is giving it his all at age 30 and fighting out guys from another generation. You heard about a guy called borg? now that’s terrible.

Federer is going to keep coming knocking on the business end of GS slam after slam and he will definitely end with 18+ slams.

he has surpassed pete in GS count. now watch him pass agassi/connor’s records as 30+ tennis players.


dari Says:

Djokovic absolutely steely to come away with that win, but i cant say too much cause I didn’t see last set and frankly am a little confused, just realizing fed had mp’s that djokovic saved with mp’s?! Deja vu????
I don’t do the “racket clap” and I’m very disappointed at the roger losing this one, but I can’t go by without giving kudos to novak!


Dory Says:

@Anon, Fed plays the fastest always and whoever plays against him has to match his pace.


dari Says:

Go McMurray!


Aravind Says:

Early signs not good for Murray.. There are no patterns Murray has that trouble Nadal consistently..


Aravind Says:

Murray having to work a lot more to hold his service games..


Kimmi Says:

rafa seem in control more than murray….

Murray needs to play well..did he watch the video of the matches he won against rafa


Swiss Maestro Says:

borg, the game’s greatest star lost 3 matches in a row to a lefty (surprise surprise, right handers not matching up well with lefties? who knew) 3 and a half years younger after losing his wimbledon crown and no.1 to the upstart and threw in the towel for good.

what did mr. federer do? holy fcuk! he won 4 slams after that to cement his legacy as the greatest tennis player to walk this earth and he still goes on and on and on….

let not half-wits like brando tell you that the way federer is dealing with his career is terrible. he spends way too much time with raf@tards. on trash talk website, i am guessing?


Anon Says:

@Dory Fed certainly plays with a brisk pace. I am glad to see that he is still moving quite well, despite his age.

Maybe it has to do with Murray/Nadal’s style of play? Murray in particular is contented with counter-punching/grinding. Would love to see more aggressiveness from him, screw the unforced errors.


Anon Says:

Nice return from Murray


tfouto Says:

Murray is playing great…


Dory Says:

C’mon C’mon break!!


Aravind Says:

Rafa running way out of court to hit FHs..


Anon Says:

Nadal is so quick….


Anon Says:

BP Murray, can he do it?


Aravind Says:

This match is going to be Nadal’s FH Vs Murray’s head.. Nadal runs too much around his BH leaving his FH side open.. That is a place Murray can exploit with his 2H BH.. But he should be mentally strong and cannot afford to go on walkabouts!!


Anon Says:

BP saved. Typical Nadal


madmax Says:

simba Says:
@Swiss Maestro,

Keep on ploughing. He would have quit if Olympics were 3 years away or on clay. He stuck his neck out to try rounding out his resume with a singles Gold. That is a wrong reason to keep on playing.

September 10th, 2011 at 5:49 pm

Federer showed tonight why he is right in still wanting to play tennis and you are fooling yourself by saying he should quit.

You just show your fear beccause clearly, you are still afraid of Federer’s game right?

you asked me a question earlier didnt you?, here is your answer:

the raw data clearly show Federer to be superior to Nadal in every respect:

1. Grand Slams: Fed 16, Nadal 10
2. Consecutive weeks at #1: Fed 237, Nadal not even 52 (!)
3. ATP World Tour Finals: Fed 5, Nadal 0
4. Consecutive wins at a major: Fed 5 at W and USO, Nadal 4 at the French
5. # of times that each player won 3 majors in a calendar year: Fed 3, Nadal 1

Nadal has ONLY dominated Federer on clay. Off clay, Federer actually leads Nadal 6-5, and he led him 5-2 off clay during his peak years (05-07). At age 29, Federer beat Nadal in the 2010 ATP World Tour Finals.

It is not Roger’s fault that Nadal did not make the final of the USO from 04-09, or that he did not make the Wimbledon final in 04 and 05. Had they met in those years, Roger would’ve spanked Rafa.

The facts speak for themselves.
Martina Navratilova noted “(The Greatest Of All Time is) a combination of how many grand slams have you won, how many tournaments have you won, how many years you were number one and (Federer’s) got all those combinations. The body of work is phenomenal and now (Federer) has got that French Open and I think he can just go on and sip Margaritas for the rest of his life.”

Compare Nadal with Federer’s comprehensive and balanced accomplishments of ATP World Tour records.

See website: tinyurl.com/67j6k9e

Federer is far superior in measures of No. 1 ranking (total years, total weeks, consecutive weeks, ranking points); Grand Slam and World Tour Finals championships (total and consecutive titles / finals / semifinals / quarterfinals as well as major match winning percentage); total tournaments (titles, finals); match winning percentage (career, year/season, Grand Slam, against top ten players); winning streaks and records; retirements and withdrawals from matches; Laureus World Sportsman of the Year awards; sportsmanship awards; etc.

Federer has been No. 1 for 285 total weeks (237 consecutive weeks) compared to Nadal’s only 102 total weeks (only 56 consecutive weeks). Nadal lost the No. 1 ranking twice during his peak age. Federer has reached 29 major finals (won 21 major titles in Grand Slams and World Tour Finals) compared to Nadal’s 14 major finals (won 10 major titles). Nadal does not have a season ranked among the ten most dominant seasons in modern tennis history. Federer has three of the top ten most dominant seasons (2005 season 81-4 win-loss, 2006 season 92-5, 2004 season 76-4). Despite Nadal’s 17-8 winning record over him, Federer has the better winning record against other top ten players (when you remove Federer-Nadal’s matches, Federer’s 130-54 win-loss over other top ten players is better than Nadal’s 65-35 win loss).

70 % of Nadal’s titles came on clay.

Roger Federer’s record in the past six grand slam events reads quarter-final, quarter-final, semi-final, semi-final, final, quarter-final, not bad for a man whose powers are on the wane.

Simba? time to shut up man. It’s Murray’s time now.

and the match is for murray and nadal fans who are decent on this forum, you’re not one of ‘em.


Aravind Says:

Murray cannot generate pace, or maybe does not generate pace on his FH side consistently.. Nice midcourt ball and he drills it into the net.. Novak or Roger wouldve killed it!


Kimmi Says:

USE that BH muzza


Dory Says:

Damn it he should have converted one of those BPs.


Aravind Says:

Muzza playing like crap now!!


madmax Says:

Sorry murray and rafa fans, just want to answer dari.

yes. Fed for life dari.


Kimmi Says:

stosur vs kerber just started..

0-40 oh ho!


Aravind Says:

Nadal has got Murray’s game totally figured out.. I don’t think there is any chance for Murray here


alison hodge Says:

come on muzza focus.


blank Says:

Federer quotes:

“I mean it’s awkward trying to explain this loss,” Federer said. “It is, what it is. It’s the obvious reason. He became back, he played well. I didn’t play so well at the end. I have only myself to blame.

“I set it up all perfect & I couldn’t finish it.

“He snaps one shot and the whole thing changes. It’s strange how it goes. I would be in the finals with a chance to win the title. I have to accept that and move on. It happens sometimes. That’s why we all watch sports. We don’t know what the outcome is going to be. It’s also very cruel and tough sometimes.”


Dory Says:

Btw another thing I take immense pride in as far as Federer’s achivements are concerned are his numerous victories at the World Tour Finals/TMC which I think is far more impressive than a lone Olympic gold medal. That is really a unique tournament format, one that really tests a player’s all round performance against others. Fed has it all. Has always had it all. He’s the GOAT.


Daniel Says:

Bye Murray. I don’t understand why he only has ace or second serve. Can’t he just remove the pace and power of first serve to play with the first serve for a change?!


blank Says:

Good that Federer is admitting that he choked. That should help him move on and focus on the next thing.


Dory Says:

The ATP and ITF should raise the number of points of World Tour Finals to 2500 from 1500 so it becomes more important than the Slams because it’s one of a kind tournament.


steve-o Says:

Congrats to Djokovic. Looks like he will win three majors this year.

Oh, Roger, you played so well in the first two sets but couldn’t close it out. But there’s always a next time.


Anon Says:

Thanks for the post blank. Back to the drawing board for Fed. Don’t give up!


Aravind Says:

After watching the last match, this looks like slow motion!! Haha..


Anon Says:

Oh boy Murray, be competitive! Stop looking dejected, you haven’t lost yet!


Aravind Says:

Nadal not playing a very high quality game, he simply does not need to here!! Murray not able to raise his level here..


Daniel Says:

Nadal’s backhand is just a pusher today, a lot of middle court balls and Murray is doing nothing because he doesn’t have a forehand. Fed or Djoko would have killed this shots. Nadal is doing his thing, but nothing extraordinary, apart for 2 forehands down the line he made, classic Nadal.


Anon Says:

43% first serve in for Murray. Not good enough. Come on, step it up


Aravind Says:

@Daniel.. totally agree. I think Djokovic is going to give a beating to whoever is going to reach final!


Anon Says:

Murray needs to buy a forehand off eBay.


tfouto Says:

why on all 4 GS did Djokovic and Federer always on the same half? Is a logical reason or his just the draw?


Ben Pronin Says:

The draw is rigged.

Madmax, who cares about Federer vs Nadal stats. Today Federer choked against Djokovic, not Nadal.


Aravind Says:

I think Murray’s ROS is way over rated.. He is unable to do anything on Nadal’s first serves.. He is a very good returner of the second serve, coz he counter punches well from his FH side and has an amazing BH.. But comparing his first serve return to Djokovic, Djoker’s return is so much better.. he gets amazing depth on the returns.. nadal gets good depth but it is usually floating into the court and has nowhere near the pace or aggression


blank Says:

tfouto –
It’s called ‘fixing’ the draw.


Anon Says:

Djoko’s ROS resembles that of Agassi, incredibly fast and deep.


Ben Pronin Says:

Nadal floating backhands, that’s cool. Too bad Murray likes to float shots right back.


Swiss Maestro Says:

@ben 638:

so you are telling me all those b@stards commenting negatively on federer or novak fans?


Daniel Says:

Can’t Murray crack a ball. He was standing still moving Nadal and Nadal only returning slices because he knows Murray can’t generate pace on his own. God I think I will just give up on Murray, he all never live to his potential, it’s a putty, so much talent…


Dory Says:

Just the stupid draw. Hard to believe it’s just a coincidence and not deliberately set up.

Federer and Djokovic in the same half in Grand Slams:

US Open: 2011, 2010, 2009, 2008
Wimbledon: 2011, 2010, 2008, 2006
French Open: 2011, 2009
Australian Open: 2011, 2010, 2009, 2008, 2007, 2005
Total: 16

Nadal and Djokovic in the same half in Grand Slams:
US Open: 2007
Wimbledon: 2007
French Open: 2010, 2008, 2007, 2006
Total: 6

Not to forget countless times Masters 1000s have Federer and Djokovic in same half


tfouto Says:

when was the last day that Federer was on Nadal half?

Its just ridiculous…


tfouto Says:

Murray is a psycho :)… Always talking to himself…


margot Says:

Andy looks flat and subdued to me and his serve’s not working.
Not looking good :(
Oh well, Rafa Nole final here we go.


Ben Pronin Says:

I’m not reading the negative comments. I just saw madmax’s super long post.

Besides, if it is Nadal fans, then tough for them because chances are they’re going to have to sit through a 6th straight loss to Novak. Everyone gets their just desserts.


Aravind Says:

It almost appears as though Murray likes running more than winning points.. Him and Monfils are both the same in this regard.. They have so much power at their disposal, but prefer to rather use their defense to win points.. Go out and hit the ball.. if you lose, at least it will be on your terms..


Anon Says:

Come on Murray, get some fire in your belly! Hit harder. Put short balls away.


Anon Says:

Great shot Murray, keep it up.


Swiss Maestro Says:

@ben 646.

ofcourse they will ;) i just wanted you to see there was a provocation!


Aravind Says:

Murray.. plzz you cannot win against Rafa by defending.. Plz hit the ball aggresively..


Anon Says:

Nadal must be feeling supremely confident now. Murray has all the weapons but not using any of them.


Daniel Says:

Missing second serve on his backhand on BP


blank Says:

Looks like it may be a transatlantic party for both Federer and Murray tonight.


Aravind Says:

Murray playing in 2nd gear, happily pushing the ball back into play and running around.. Nadal playing in 3rd gear, doing just enough to be ahead of Murray.. God this is a snooze fest


Ben Pronin Says:

Federer and Djokovic have played arguably the 2 best matches all year. They’re playing instant classics almost at will.

Murray and Nadal, not so much.


Ben Pronin Says:

Those 2 missed backhands are the reason Murray will never win a slam.


Daniel Says:

I give up…


Dory Says:

How many BP chances will Muray miss? :(


blank Says:

Sad to say this. But here is a Chokerer and a Chokurry.


Daniel Says:

I am starting to get annoyed by Murray passive game. He just don’t want to win, he wants the opponent to lose and that’s it. Usually the pints he celebrates the most is when his opponent misses.


Daniel Says:

Who want to bet he will get broken this game?!


Daniel Says:

Wow, even Nadal applauded


Chico Says:

You can’t say that Fed choked. From loosing a two sets lead he drove on until he had this years undisputed number one in the ropes. Nole is an awesome player who got by with skill and maybe a little luck. It was a great and as tight a match as they come between two wery, wery good players. Somebody has to loose and it hurts, but thats how it is supposed to be.

Thank you to the gladiators for a great show!


alison hodge Says:

come on muzza,nice to see rafa aplauding muzzas forhand down yhe line.


Skorocel Says:

„How do you win 16 slams and choke like that.“

That IS the question, Ben ;-)


Skorocel Says:

Eric: Thank you for your 4:58 pm post… Idiot!


Skorocel Says:

Dory: „Fed should look at the positives. He did beat Novak at FO this year.“

Yeah, he did beat Novak – only to produce another memorable chokejob against Rafa! Talk about being „positive“ here, Dory… To be honest, it would’ve been 10 times better for him to LOSE that match against Novak… Not only he would’ve had 1 loss less against Rafa, but he would’ve also had a perfect chance to see HOW it should be done when you play a subpar (yes, he was subpar on that day) Nadal in a GS final and not want to crap in your pants like Roger did. The truth is, Novak may end up with half less trophies, slams, titles, weeks at No 1, and everything else, but as for mental toughness, he’s, at the very least, the same as is Fed (the supposed “GOAT”), if not better… And, he’s the only player thus far who has managed to cause Nadal some headache. Only player.


El Flaco Says:

Anyone ever notice Murray can’t go back and hit an overhead? Every time he turns around and runs back to the baseline like when you are in the 12 and under. Unless I had an easy passing shot I would lob him every time.


Daniel Says:

Can you see Fed or Djokovic putting so much spin to finish this last forehand he missed?! God…


Aravind Says:

Murray raising his game. but unfortunately for him, so did Rafa!!


Aravind Says:

What a nice moonball return by Nadal and beatifully dumped into the net by Andy


Ben Pronin Says:

Up 5-3 40-15 on serve only to lose the next 4 games… that’s the epitome of choking.


Swiss Maestro Says:

Losing a match is better than beating the best player of the year and losing to the greatest clay courter to have walked this earth? what is your IQ? what a dumbfcuk!

last i checked there is no title for mental toughness. is there?


Daniel Says:

Game set match. I am tired trying to rot for Murray


Daniel Says:

Murray’s forehand is a disgrace


Golf is barely a Sport Says:

Murray is too fatalistic


Aravind Says:

Nadal’s gameplan is amazingly simple.. Don’t give any pace to Andy.. Either moonball returns or whenever possible slice low to Andy’s FH.. Leave the FH corner wide open and force Andy to make the FH DTL pass, he will give a few points away!! God, there is no way Andy is winning this.. He goes down a break now.. Unless he puts Nadal in any kind of pressure, he is going to go down in straight sets


Daniel Says:

you kind of feel Nadal doesn’t take Murray serious anymore.
In the old days Murray used to raise his level facing the top 3, specially Nadal, now he is getting worst every time. Sorry about the negativity, but is painful to watch. He makes Nadal look better than he is playing today.


blank Says:

Best I could find for Murray. Hope he has his bags packed.

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Anon Says:

Oh Murray Murray, come on!!!!!


Daniel Says:

@blank Priceless! LOL


Daniel Says:

I think don’t believe anymore, he used to but now.. Clay, grass and hard


Daniel Says:

Or he is just tired, it is 3 straight 5 set match, maybe he run off of legs


blank Says:

@Daniel – I could have found something for Federer as well, but I think he rents out his own NetsJets plane for all his travel! So he wont use what I find :-)


Polo Says:

Much as I want Murray to win a major, I could not believe how boring and frustrating he is to watch. He looks lazy, uninspired and does not instill any fear in his opponent. As long as there is a Djokovic, a Nadal and a Federer, I don’t see him breaking through in a major.


Anon Says:

You could tell, Nadal is very comfortable and untroubled.


Anon Says:

More FH like this please, Mr Murray


Aravind Says:

This is among the worst matches that Murray has played.. He has absolutely no intent today!


Ben Pronin Says:

Does Federer take Roddick seriously? To an extent. So Nadal takes Murray seriously, too… to an extent.


Skorocel Says:

“last i checked there is no title for mental toughness. is there?”

Yes, there is. For example, 10 GS TITLES, 19 Masters 1000 TITLES and 17 other TITLES. Now do yourself some research, dumbf.ck!


Anon Says:

@Ben Pronin

Yeah, I am sure Nadal is vaguely aware of Murray’s presence across the net ;)


Daniel Says:

I am disgusted with Murray’s forehand this point. At least try to go to the lines.. Why am I watching this bad tennis?!?!!?


Polo Says:

My wife calls Murray the male version of Dinara Safina.


Ben Pronin Says:

Nadal is playing some great tennis. I’m curious to see how the final plays out. What does Djokovic do that Murray doesn’t?


Daniel Says:

Well, I think this is the medicine for we Fed fans, there is something worst than blowing 2 match points on serve!


Polo Says:

Murray should be penalized for an extremely lousy game.


Swiss Maestro Says:

bp @ 710:

it’s not like federer did that against you. novak can play some tennis, you know?

he is not george bastl or jarko nieminen who beat agassi and sampras towards the end of their career.

i am thinking anyplayer would trade to be in roger’s shoes than agassi/sampras.

everyone person chokes when the stakes are raised.


Kimmi Says:

murray is going to make a comeback just like nole against fed. you watch!


El Flaco Says:

Djokovic’s forehand is better than Murray’s.


Blah Says:

“What does djokovic do that murray doesnt?” ~djokovic doesnt suck.


Daniel Says:

I think Nadal is not believing what is happening with him. First Roddick didn’t come out to play, now Murray. He mud be getting suspicious and afraid at the same time, kind of: OMG I am going to have the beat down of a lifetime against Djoko if Karma wants payback after this 2 matches. OR something will happen to Djoko and he will be the first player to win US Open withou losing a set?!?!


Polo Says:

I got so bored watching Murray that I decided to just keep blogging here. It is far more interesting than the match.


Daniel Says:

Pathetic display. We should see this coming after the quality of the first match.


Aravind Says:

Djokovic can
1. Return better
2. Attack better
3. Better FH
4. Better BH
5. Better defender..
The only thing that Nadal has going for him is that he will not surrender two sets meekly like Federer did. Federer in a way put himself under pressure by taking the foot of the pedal..


Ben Pronin Says:

Hahahahaha, makes sense.

Swiss, the fact that it wasn’t a Bastl further implies that it was a choke. Federer wouldn’t choke against a random guy, but he has choked against a worthy foe (Nadal). Federer said it himself that beating Djokovic right now is like the holy grail of tennis. And so, he choked. The forehand that clipped the tape would’ve cleared it easily had it been 4-3 40-15.


blank Says:

Polo –
Same here. I even researched orbitz for return flight tickets for Murray and posted them here. Hope he sees it and rushes to the airport in another 30 mins :-)


Blah Says:

And djokovic doesnt counterpunch mindlessly and aimlessly until he loses the point.


skeezerweezer Says:

Skorocel,

Don’t be too hard on the 16 slam winner, everyone is not choke immuned. He didn’t get those slams by being a choker either.


Polo Says:

I surrendered the TV remote control to my wife and let her surf the channels all she wants.


Ben Pronin Says:

Maybe Murray and Djokovic made a bet before their matches…


Daniel Says:

I think even Nadal are getting bored of the match and may lose focus


Anon Says:

0-30. An opening. Crawl through it Murray!


Polo Says:

I don’t think Federer choked. He is, to put it plainly, not as good as he used to be.


blank Says:

True Skeeze. He choked, so what? He has given us fans so much joy over the last decade, there is nothing to feel really bad about.


Daniel Says:

Murray on 7 points in a row?!?!?!?!


Anon Says:

3BPs. He would take at least one of them, you would think.


Daniel Says:

Suddenly 2 good serves by Nadal.


blank Says:

Dropping a 2 set lead and dropping 2 match points = CHOKE.


Ben Pronin Says:

Wow. It’s like Murray wanted to be more like Nadal so he studied tapes of him… from 2005.


Daniel Says:

What the f…k. Murray needs to finish the pint 5 times to actually get it. Can’t he hit one flat shot??


El Flaco Says:

Murray finally gets a break! Now let’s watch him give it right back. LOL


Anon Says:

At last!!!! Now hold.


rogerafa Says:

Is a Djokovic win against Nadal such a forgone conclusion? Sure, he has won the last five times but it doesn’t necessarily mean he will lose the sixth time too. It all depends on who executes better on the day. In any case, this match isn’t over yet.


Anon Says:

First good rally of the match really. Nadal finally broke into a sweat.


Daniel Says:

He doesn’t know how to attack, he simply misses when trying to.


Aravind Says:

I think Murray came out stiff today.. He has had longer and tougher matches than Nadal..


Anon Says:

@rogerafa
Depends on the players’ form really. Nadal’s form isn’t pristine, and Djoko could be tired and spent. I wouldn’t hand the trophy to Djoko just yet.


Ben Pronin Says:

I think I’m gonna start rooting for Nadal. I like the way he’s playing.


tennisfansince76 Says:

i can’t believe Murray is prolonging this match he might miss his check in time for Bellevue tonight


Daniel Says:

rogerrafa

The way Nadal is playing today?! Not a chance. 50% first serve, no pop on the BH and playing safe forehands, and a lot of short balls. Djoko will kill him.


alison hodge Says:

i love muzza and i ilove rafa,however this game is an anti climax compared to the last one,come on muzza wheres the passion and the inspiration,or maybe hes suffering from fatigue after the isner game yesterday.


El Flaco Says:

El Flaco Says:
Murray finally gets a break! Now let’s watch him give it right back. LOL

September 10th, 2011 at 7:39 pm

—————————————-
Told you!


tennisfansince76 Says:

Ben you are kidding yourself if you are comparin g how Nadal will do against Djoker with how he is doing against mental case Murray. i predict 6 in a row on Monday


Daniel Says:

He is just pathetic. When he tries to flat his shots he misses the net. No wonder he prefer to lay clay like tennis.


Ben Pronin Says:

We always here about how Nadal is constantly improving and now Djokovic is improving and even Federer is trying to add things to his game, but what about Murray? I think he was legitimately better a few years ago. It’s like now that he knows he can lose close matches he’s afraid of trying to hard. It’s a shame. Despite his results, his game against the top guys is regressing. At least against Nadal, anyway, because he did play really well against Djokovic the last 2 times.


Kimmi Says:

Muzza used to be good but unfortunately as time passes he gets worse and worse. Muzza of 2008/ 2009 would have given rafa a run for his money.


Aravind Says:

Murray gives the break right back.. He has not turned up to play today..
Daniel, I think it is 60-40 in favor of Djokovic.. He has played the more gruelling SF, but he has a day rest and has not played on back to back days like Nadal.. I think he has played a much higher quality SF, but that is because Federer played very well himself.. Nadal is playing average because he does not need to do more..
Djokovic is a much more aggresive player than Murray and can actually hurt Nadal.. Murray has to hit 4 shots to end a point. Djokovic can end the point with one shot on both sides..


Anon Says:

Nadal hitting lots of short balls mid court. If he does this at the final he would get punished by Djoko. Mightily punished.


tennisfansince76 Says:

dumb ass murray it is good that he is giving Nadal some junk balls. but you can’t go to that well too often. got to take offence at some pt.


Anon Says:

Got lucky there, Murray. Approach shot to the middle of the court against Nadal. Really? Don’t do that again!


Aravind Says:

Muzza actually playing much better in the third set,.. too little too late..


rogerafa Says:

Daniel: Nadal is doing what he has always done to win against Murray because he knows Murray doesn’t have MUCH to hurt him with. I am sure he will be much more aggressive against Djokovic. More importantly, Djokovic hasn’t looked that good in terms of consistency of late. If Djokovic plays at a very high level, I agree Nadal’s chances are slim but there is no guarantee that he will always bring his best level against Nadal. One can be pretty sure that Nadal will play at a consistently good level and not lose a match the way Roger did. There is a reason Nadal has lost one set in his last 12 matches at the USO.


Anon Says:

Much better, Murray. Now break and hold.


tennisfansince76 Says:

I would be very frusrated if I was a Murray fan. he has the game to match up against Nadal but just doesn’t apply it in a consistent intelligent manner


Blah Says:

The top four can be summed up like this… If u gave each of them a choice one player they could avoid in a slam, feds choice would be nadal. Nadals choice would be djokovic, djokovics choice would be federer. No one would think much about avoiding murray. Im telling u guys he cant win a slam against any of those 3 in the finals.


Polo Says:

Oops! I fell asleep. That’s the best way to handle this match. Looking forward to Djokovic-Nadal on Monday. For sure it would not include a pathetic looking player.


Brando Says:

@ BLAH:

Completely agree re murray.


Daniel Says:

rogerafa

There is a reason Nadal won 1 set in the last 10 him and Djoko played, hard, clay and grass. Djoko level is high, he maintained the while match today, Federer that was too good in first 2 and 3 4 games in the fifth.


Swiss Maestro Says:

Ben :

You are saying losing to a better player is choking, but losing to a journeyman is not?

If rafa loses in straight sets on monday, are you telling me that’s better than federer losing the match from 2-0?

If you read the pressers novak says he was lucky to pull this one. Hear that? LUCK! but i guess you have actually played that match and novak, so we should listen to you, ben?


Polo Says:

Agree with you blah. That holds true for all the other players in the ATP if made to choose who to avoid in the top 4.


Anon Says:

@Blah

Yup that sums it up nicely.


Kimmi Says:

congrats to sam stosur


Skorocel Says:

skeezerweezer: It may sound hard, but it’s the truth (I mean the thing about Federer’s mental toughness). I may repeat myself, but I’ll say it once again: as an „artist“ (so to speak), Federer is an once in a century phenomenon in tennis, AND we all (including myself) should only thank him for having a chance of witnessing that. But when it comes to these tight matches, as a „fighter“ (so to speak), he’s very suspect more often than not. That’s all what I wanted to say. 40-15 and two MPs? The same thing as in 2010? No way! The first MP – okay, Nole went for the kill (probably realising that it’s his last chance, especially when you consider how badly he played in that last game, where he literally handed Fed the break courtesy of some really weird and uncharacteristic errors) and it worked. But the second MP? How can someone say it was „bad luck“ for Fed when his FH clipped the net and ended wide? Bad luck or good luck, had Roger hit an ace, winning FH/BH or something else, it wouldn’t matter. He really couldn’t ask for more, had him on the ropes, but once again failed… But then again, by letting (literally) Nole into the final, at least Roger will still have 6 Slams more than Nadal after the Serb once again shows the Swiss (and everyone else for that matter) how it is to play against Nadal and not get sh.t like a 2 year old baby! At least I hope so…


Skorocel Says:

blank: „Dropping a 2 set lead and dropping 2 match points = CHOKE.“

No, it’s called „bad luck“ ;-) LOL!


Kimmi Says:

murray to maybe win this set..

15-30


Anon Says:

Nice point from Murray. Keep it up!


Kimmi Says:

c’mon muzza..go lose like a man


Swiss Maestro Says:

blah @ 801 :

if you have followed tennis blah, novak won his 1st slam against tsonga, he lost to federer in straights.

rafa won his 1st slam against puerta! LOL! who is that dude?

fed won his against phillipposusi. even sampras won his 1st against a guy who had 0 slams.

murray just needs to be patient and the opportunity will present himself.

At oz open final this year, one of my friend who reports for an oz paper told me that there were about double the no. of british journalists compared to journalists from all other nations put together. has any tennis player had that kind of following that the british inflict on their sportstars?

look at soccer, there are a ton of better players but beckham is hands down the most followed of all players.


Daniel Says:

Agree with the second MP Skorocel, and an element of choke comes to mind. If he was more confident, he would have hit the ball 3 cm up and it would be a clean winner. But this can be bad luck as it hitted the net. So, food for thought, both can be applied, Choke/BAD Luck


blank Says:

Skorocel –
Ok. We both get points for this. It was choke due to bad luck ;-)


Aravind Says:

I think some of the posters including myself have been too harsh on Muzza.. I think he came out very stiff into the match.. He is playing much better in the third set..


Kimmi Says:

go muzza!


Daniel Says:

See,

Nadal is not playing great,that’s why he is losing a set to Murray, who is clearly struggling with all his personalities and maybe some fitness issues as well. Never heard him breathing so loud during points.


Swiss Maestro Says:

so all you enlightened ones out there, is rafa choking in the 3rd set? i mean he is 2 sets love and he is struggling to hold serve against a guy who has 0 slams?


Daniel Says:

Aravind, me too.

This set showed that at least he is trying!


Daniel Says:

Murray is crazy! Why he didn’t just hit the forehand down the line, even if it’s not hard it would take a lot of running by Nadal


Anon Says:

Murray trying to be cute and played a FH drop shot.


alison hodge Says:

@kimmi i think it will be stosur against serena,although serenas going to be the overwelming favourite,i would love to see sam pick up her 1st grand slam,i think that shes a great player who id like to see make that break through.


Daniel Says:

Murray lost the set and match on the same 40-15 with that bizarre lobby drop


Swiss Maestro Says:

hey daniel,

skorocel has played the actual match and not novak. he has even won more slams than novak. believe me!

what a dumbfcuk!


Anon Says:

Get pumped Murray!!! Come on!!


Eric Says:

C’mon Daniel, it’s another set point for him, so…


Milos Says:

Here is a song made by Novak fan Puff Daddy :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1eoP2hXEyU
describing tactics Novak has against his opponents especially on match points :P


Brando Says:

Commentator: ‘did murray contract federeritis?’ LMAO, a bit of a low below by the commentator!


Dory Says:

Wow yes yes! I didn’t think Murray would take a set. Now rinse and repeat for 2 more sets. :)


Daniel Says:

If it s a day Nadal is asking to lose is today. IF Murray can clean his game a little and put more first serves in, who knows…


Aravind Says:

Murray having a braincramp and going for a cute dropshot when even a neutral FH DTL wouldve done the trick.. He gets a third setpoint with some aggresive play and wins it when Nadal makes an UF error..
Towards the end of this set, something suddenly clicked with Muzza.. He started going for more and clearly rattled Nadal..

Nadal must be pissed.. Just 10 minutes earlier, he wouldv’e been planning his cooldown routine after the match.. Now he has to play another set!!

The question is.. Does Muzza have anything left in the tank to push this to a fifth!


Eric Says:

OMG, how crazy would it be if Murray took a leaf from the Nole playbook and won the next two sets?

Of course it won’t happen because Rafa doesn’t even know what “choke” means, but it would be awesome. If Muzza is mentally in it now, this could get pretty dicey.


Anon Says:

It’s not over yet. Murray finally playing like a top player that he is. Has to sustain high level of aggression and consistency to win the 4th set. Game on.


tennisfansince76 Says:

@Skorocel. Novak simply was the better player in sets 3 and 4. he played huge and consistent. he overwhelmed Fedf w/ his return and deep heavy balls. i don’t think Fed quite choked on the MPs either. but after he lost that game he seemed to choke. he played not to lose.


rogerafa Says:

Daniel: Those stats are the reason why almost all of the posters here feel that Nadal is gonna be “whipped” on Monday and with a degree of certainty which sounds scary. My point is that Nadal is not too far off his best. As I said, if Djokovic plays his best, it will be tough for Nadal but if he doesn’t, then it could turn out to be a thriller and much closer than most of us are expecting it to be. However, there could be a spanner in the works yet…


Swiss Maestro Says:

is this choking?

You donot win a set against the best player of the year on your best surface and on a surface that the dude has 0 slams

choking or not choking?


El Flaco Says:

The only slam choke that comes to mind for Rafa was in the 5th set of the 07 Wimby final. He had 15-40 in consecutive Fed service games. He missed easy backhand returns on Fed’s 2nd serve on 2 of them. After that he fell apart and Fed dominated.


tennisfansince76 Says:

nice 3rd set Muzza! both players should be fine physically. the Isner match was not that physical


Kimmi Says:

alison, yap maybe sam against serena, but woz wont be a pushover


Daniel Says:

I like when Skorocel is around, it’s always polemic.:)


Blah Says:

Swissmaestro: thats all true, but when you have to count on the top 3 to not be in the finals, especially when in this day and age when the top 3 can contend for slams on all surfaces, ur chances of winning a slam is greatly diminished. Not to mention if delpo recovers his form, he will overtake murray in that 4th spot, and he actually has more weapons. Not saying it cant happen, but it d probably take nadal getting injured, fed getting taken out by a big hitter, djokovic slipping when doing one of his dances, etc. just look at ur exps, at that time fed wasnt good on clay, there was no dominant player on wimby, and nadal wasnt good on hardcourts. Now the top 3 can all win clay, have all won on hc, have all won on wimby, and have all done it by defeating a top player.


Anon Says:

Wow Nadal’s serving better. Sending a message to Murray?


Aravind Says:

Nadal looks so angry.. he is going to come back wiht a vengance


Swiss Maestro Says:

ok brando, are you really a rafa fan or you want to just get that dude r@ped by the federer fans?

you want hitting below the belt? we would do that to rafa if he ever got his finger out of his you-know-what!


Daniel Says:

rogerafa, my point is if Murray, with no pace and power in his shots can hurt and bother Nadal in the backhand corner, imagine what Novak will do, and with a way more aggressive return. Murray sometimes just put the ball in play. Nadal is playing short and not going for his forehand as he usually does, he even missed a few strange forehands. To me he is not in form enough to bet Novak, at all.


Aravind Says:

Muzza looking good and Nadal raising his game and trying to serve harder.. This is how the first two sets should’ve been played..


Daniel Says:

Too many unforced errors by Murray, 3 in this game alone


racquet Says:

I can’t believe someone is still saying that Murray is easily going to be overtaken by Del Potro when Murray lads their H2H 6-1. Wait until he corrects that balance first, eh?


Daniel Says:

This game Murray should break already, if not for silly mistakes in points he was in control


Kimmi Says:

c’mon murray!


Dory Says:

Wow Murray’s return games are so much better. Now just play well on important points.


racquet Says:

sorry 5-1


Kimmi Says:

Unforced error! sucks!


Daniel Says:

Nadal returned a moon ball ala Rome and Murray thorugh it in the net???


Daniel Says:

I feel sorry for him, when he tries to go for a forehand he misses, I think is lack of practice. This was a major hold for Nadal, he was 40-0 and got complicated. Murray has to keep his cool, because he is serving second.


Eric Says:

Murray goes from 40-0 to ad out… great play. Even though he didn’t end up with the break (too bad), it sends a message he’s not going away meekly.

(Now watch, Rafa will win the next four games in a row or something.. .sigh…)


Aravind Says:

Boy.. did Djokovic get his wish.. This match is already more than 3 hours long..


Eric Says:

Sorry, I guess I mean… Murray gets from 40-0 to ad out on Rafa’s serve… you knew what I meant though.


Kimmi Says:

if rafa breaks here, thats it for muzza i m afraid


Dory Says:

O crap why does he have to play a crappy service game after a brilliant ROS game?


Brando Says:

@Swiss Maestro: LMAO, your pathetic! Just go back to the mental asylum after those remarks, i thinks it’s medication time for you now – go on son on your bike, start pedalling:-)


Kimmi Says:

great volleys to save those 2. now hold


Eric Says:

NICE! Holy crap that was a huge play from Murray, after messing up the volley at 15-30… GREAT come back.


Aravind Says:

Muzza starting to go frequently to the net and getting some success doing that.. The match hits the three hour mark.. This looks like a dogfight at the moment..


Kimmi Says:

what is wrong with that BH..aaaarh!


Daniel Says:

The shot he has to add spin (going after the high part of the net) backhand down the line, he throughs it in the net, one after another.


Eric Says:

Now if only he would stop dumping literally every other ball into the net…


Kimmi Says:

oh ho, DF


Dory Says:

Blew it! Damn it!


blank Says:

Order restored!?


Aravind Says:

Gives the break to Rafa with a double fault and an unforced error.. I guess this is it for Murray


Eric Says:

all for nothing…


Kimmi Says:

out! wild! oh no!

is it over!


Dan Martin Says:

Nadal has the break. A pretty odd day emotionally speaking and energy level wise for both matches.


Swiss Maestro Says:

@ blah :

ivanisevic won a slam. if a guy with such limited game can win a slam, andy murray surely will.

murray has beaten all the top 3 and if he keeps making the business end of slams, he will make the breakthrough.

really, this is not david ferrer or tipsarevic we are talking about.

murray has the tools to be a GS champ.

Sometimes when you are from a developed country you are just not “hungry” enough. think about kenyan marathon runners or other athletes from less developed countries against developed countries.

what murray doesn’t have that djokovic who is from an under developed/priviliged nation has, is “hunger” for success. all the sports that britain has invented, you see such under developed countries producing brilliant athletes. for these people, success in sports is an excellent opportunity to escape the living conditions in their own country. i am thinking murray never had such an incentive from child-hood.

i can show you countries from asia/africa/southamerica performing producing better athletes than european countries which are very developed. heck! even the greatest european country in athletics is one of the least underdeveloped of european countries.


Taylor Says:

Ever notice how Nadal doesn’t get tired after exerting energy?

Steroids are heckuva drug


Kimmi Says:

Losing to rafa at RG, wimbledon and now the USO. very sad for murray. and annoying for his fans.


Swiss Maestro Says:

and you go back to sticking your head into rafa’s u know what, mr. brando.


Polo Says:

I can’t seem to find anything to like in Murray’s game over the other top 4 guys.


Daniel Says:

Eric, you were right, 1 game already for Nadal


blank Says:

Not fair for Serena/Wozniacki to be playing after this only to comeback and play the finals at 4pm tomorrow.

But what the heck…Serena playing Stosur for the finals is not fair either ;-)


Swiss Maestro Says:

and you go back to sticking your head into rafa’s u know what, mr. brando (till novak beats the cra@p and you out of rafa on monday)


Kimmi Says:

maybe its better this match ends…

wozniacki vs serena should be a good match. both players will never give up…we know that by sure!


Aravind Says:

This is it.. I think Muzza’s spirit is broken now


Daniel Says:

Murray so predictable, why didn;t he went for the wrong foot?!


Kimmi Says:

murray looks hurting allover..oh boy!


Eric Says:

Another great comeback…


Daniel Says:

Wow, hold after 0-40. Still alive!


Dory Says:

He’s fighting hard and I really can see how hard he is trying. Appreciate that.


tennisfansince76 Says:

Murray may need to check into the hospital after this match. leg problems. back problems. lots of problems


Daniel Says:

Nadal put all first serves in forcing weak returns by Murray.
Now Murray has to hold and force Nadal serve for the match, which is always tuff


Polo Says:

They shoot horses, don’t they?


Daniel Says:

Nadal returning a serve Murray wanted a free point, same thing Djoko did


Swiss Maestro Says:

how can anyone with a knowledge of history and/or tennis not appreciate a guy trying to compete like murray does to win a GS for one of the greatest nations on earth?

Bravo murray! Good on you mate! Keep it going.


Eric Says:

Very nice from Rafa, I am not at all sure Djokovic will have it as “easy” as some of us have been saying.


blah Says:

Swissmaestro: talking about two different eras here. Ivanesevic won on the last year of old fast wimby grass with his serve. He’s been in three wimby finals prior, one that went five sets with pete i believe. True, at 2001, he was so bad he had to get a wc into it, but his serve was still top notch, and on old wimby, a deadly serve can win you championships. Wimby was the only slam where Ivanesevic ever had a chance of winning. Murray doesnt have a deadly weapon he can exploit on a surface.

Maybe Murray will slip in a slam or two there, probably when fed declines further or if nadal’s health declines. There would be a gap and his chances would improve.

I’ll be honest, I don’t like Murray’s game. IMO It’s ugly. It’s one of those games I think can consistently get him into the quarters or semis but will not win him a slam. I dont know what people are talking about when they keep saying Murray has weapons.

Great court coverage, sure, but I don’t think he moves as efficiently as the top 3. Weakest forehand out of the three. Is usually passive. Serve isn’t better than any of the three. He has a great backhand but that’s not enough in this era. Forehands and Serves are much more valuable weapons. I just think when you rely on your opponents to make errors, you are going to run into trouble when you face the elite. They can attack aggressively and effectively. Is there a second gear Murray can get to to defeat them? I personally don’t think so.

We’ll see what happens.


Dory Says:

Okay Murray, be sure to watch Monday’s match to see how Novak defeats Rafa. :))


Daniel Says:

No one can say Nadal run away for a fight.

Third straight final again. Djoko waiting for revenge!


Kimmi Says:

rafa denying murray another final…beat murray 3 times in the slam this year..too bad

Bring on serena vs wozniacki


Kimmi Says:

always says the right thing rafa, congrats and good luck in the final.

But now that fed is gone..Go Nole!


Dory Says:

16-12 is going to become 16-13!!


Anon Says:

@Daniel

Lol wouldn’t it be more apt to say that Nadal is the one looking for revenge? Afterall, Djoko has beaten him 5 times this year, including at Wimbledon.


Polo Says:

I completely agree with blah. Murray is indeed the weakest of the top 4. His game is not improving. Mentally, I feel that he is getting worse.


Kimmi Says:

Anon until the H2H between rafa and djokovic is even (16-16), it will always be djokovic going for revenge.


Polo Says:

I will never bet against Nadal even against Djokovic. His game has been improving with each match in this Open.


marrisv Says:

Come on rafffffaaa….. Go for it in the final. You are the underdog…


Polo Says:

Nadal may have just saved Murray from the notoriety of being in four majors finals without winning a set.


blah Says:

Last thought on Murray: I think his ceiling is 2 slams, Lleyton Hewitt-ish if Murray can get his mental game figured out. but Hewitt had a ridiculous never say die heart. As mentally strong as any I’ve ever seen.

As for Monday, Djokovic in 4.


Brando Says:

WELL DONE RAFA! Onto nole now. If nole wins- most likely- well played to him, but keep playing him it’s the only way you can learn in order to beat him.

Fed Fans: After the benefit of time passing since the match, i feel i should not have said roger choked- it was disrespectful to a man i actually admire. Bottomline line is her had match points against djokovic in a grand slam semi final, which proves 1 FACT THAT IS UNDISPUTABLE: THE MAN IS STILL COMPETITIVE EVEN NOw!

Murray Fans: Sorry for the loss but do remember that andy is doing his best and if doesn’t win a slam – im sure he will- as he said he would have done his outmost. Sometimes the better individual is not one who wins but wastes what else was there but one who may lose but truly makes the most of what they have.

Goodnight and sayonara folk:-)


tennisfansince76 Says:

congrats to Rafa Nadal 2011 USO runner up!


Swiss Maestro Says:

blah :

if you know and have played tennis, you would not call murray’s tennis ugly. he has great court awareness and has a EVERY shot in the game. the way he constructs a point is terrific. tell me what is your level as a tennis player? how often do you play?

I have played for my college in NCAA and I even won a set off one of the active atp pros in college play. I am quite sure anyone who has played competitive tennis will assure you murray’s game is not ugly. If you are talking from an aesthetic point of view, most tennis viewers will tell you great players like even nadal have got a fugly game. That is a very subjective view and not open to debate. some prefer mozart. some prefer their local bands in their country. can you say one is better than another?

Only from a tennis point of view, murray plays really good tennis. Good tennis does not mean it will always get you wins. I would say Ivanisevic is a very limited player but he was at the right time at the right place. Beyond this, this discussion might get philosophical. You should pursue knowledge and not success. Murray plays the right tennis, but like a college drop out becoming a billionaire and becoming successful than a more knowledgeable guy, there are other extraneous factors that limit his success. (one of which I talked about in my earlier post).

Fed fans, keep your spirits up. Roger will be playing for a lot more years and will win more slams. winning and losing is part of sport.

check out what wimbledon center court has written on it’s entrance….

If you can meet with triumph and disaster…. as followers of the King of the Center Court, we should always remember that!


Swiss Maestro Says:

brando, my apologies too. forgive me! Good luck to rafa and you.


Kimberly Says:

Don’t know if I can bear to watch Monday but proud of rafa for making it to the final for the second straight time. If rafa believes himself I give him a real chance in this final. He’s certainly not the favorite but maybe if he cones out swinging and goes for it. He certainly has the talent. Or am I delusional?


Polo Says:

No Kimberly, you are not delusional. Nadal has as much chance to win as Djokovic on Monday.


marrisv Says:

@Kimberly Rafa has a chance. For him the key is to get on top early in the final.


blah Says:

swiss maestro: last post on the subject, i’ve played for college as well and have played with a few touring pros but was never good enough to win a set off them. He does have every shot, but aesthetically his style is just not my thing, completely subjective, agree with you on that.

Bottom line is, I still doubt he’ll get more than two slams in his career and at this rate, think he needs to get quite lucky to get that elusive first slam.


Kimmi Says:

kimberly – exactly how i feel when i wait for fedal matches. no confidence at all. and it always turns out federer losing. drives me nuts…most of the time i cant be bother watching! what can you do. heee!


Kimmi Says:

hoping for a good match between serena and caroline.


Kimberly Says:

Kimmi, hahaha, I know you’ve been there done that. I will watch and hope for the best and be prepared for the worst! And root for rafa. I will be prepared for the worst though, which would be a total non competitive blowout!

I am looking forward to this match. I am rooting for Serena for several reasons.


Kimmi Says:

me too rooting for serena. sadly, i never really warm up to wozniacki, must be her game, maybe her personality..i dont know but definitely something.

Hope for competitive match though..hoping for 3 sets.


dari Says:

Sorry Muzz, had some brilliant moments, but rafa always came right back at him. Too many times, though, andy got a short ball and either hit it RIGHT to rafa, or just didnt come forwatd and get it deep. And the crook in the arm on so many fh’s, where is the extension and follow through, man? One day Murray, one day.
I can say at least that novak and roger put on a hell of a show and they Murray rafa got kind of exciting after third set.
Imberly,.please tell me you are joking about wondering if rafa has the talent?! Of course he does and not just because of talent of course.
Caro and serena. I can root for Caro only if she promises to win the final if she gets past serena! Saw her against sveta this week, she was more exciting in person, or was that all sveta’s doing…


Kimmi Says:

missing kim clijsters. hope she still got one more slam in her. sad year this turned out to be for kim.


Kimmi Says:

dari- did u go to the US open..havent heard from you for a while


dari Says:

whoops should say “and has a chance” not just because of talent


Kimmi Says:

OK, your last post shows you went there. hope you had a wonderful time. Did u get to see roger


dari Says:

Hi kimmi, i saw Rog, yes! On his beat down of Monaco. You would think I would have wanted a more competitive match for the first roger sighting, but I was very happy with what i saw. I also think one of my rafan friends was converted.
Just to put it out there, I’m over the fed loss now.

AO ’12 baby, lol


Dory Says:

Bye everyone. Hopefully Novak will avenge his loss of last year and win his third Grand Slam.


dari Says:

Also did you guys here about the roof of the credit Suisse building on fire in the city today? IRONIC ( ready for criticisms on use of that word!)


Kimberly Says:

People from my tennis club really pissed about Roger.

Hope you had fun at the open Dari. I have never been to a grand slam, only Sony Ericsson.

Serena not hitting her shots as she should yet.

I committed to playing usta Team this year, as I haven’t in several years, since i had kids, although i did serve as a sub last year, singles. Very excited, played kaiser today and lost 1 and 1 :(


Kimberly Says:

His fourth dory, I think!


Kimmi Says:

ha ha good match already, serena cannot pass wozniacki


Kimmi Says:

double break already, no contest in this set!


madmax Says:

Ben Pronin Says:
I’m not reading the negative comments. I just saw madmax’s super long post.

Besides, if it is Nadal fans, then tough for them because chances are they’re going to have to sit through a 6th straight loss to Novak. Everyone gets their just desserts.

September 10th, 2011 at 6:46 pm

Ben,

Are you going blind? I wrote the post to simba because he was talking about rafa being the goat and roger not coming close, reason for the stats and asked for my input.

If you had been bothered to read closely rather than jumping off a cliff, you would have realised that, but you are so far up your own posts right now, you’ve lost the plot.

Deal with it.


Kimmi Says:

maybe i said too fast. break back by woz


Kimberly Says:

And Serena takes set 1.


madmax Says:

Ben Pronin Says:
The draw is rigged.

Madmax, who cares about Federer vs Nadal stats. Today Federer choked against Djokovic, not Nadal.

September 10th, 2011 at 6:38 pm

Simba raised the point in a post to me, that’s why. Next time put your glasses on Pronin and stop behaving like a jerk. If it’s too long for you, then move on. It’s not obligatory to read all these posts, not even for someone as great as you.


simba Says:

@Swiss Maestro,

Murray has all the tools to win a GS, he just does not have all the brain. The guy has all the talent but does not have the “killer instinct”. I predict he would never win a Slam unless he fixes what go in between his ears.

Murray needs no freaking patience; he needs urgency because he is 24, soon to be on the wrong side of 25 and past his prime.

Goran Ivanesavic won with a BIG assist from the surface. He mastered one shot; that is his serve.


Kimberly Says:

The real number 1 beats the fake number 1 playing at about 60 percent of her capacity.


Daniel Says:

The real number 1 is the player with most consistent result over 12 months period, plain and simple. The ranking rewards a period achievement, and not just 2 greg weeks of play.

Serene can only play great in Grand Slams, if he has a 8 tourney per season, while all the other players are playing 20+.


Ike Says:

Finally, it seems bit quiet here :)

margot, jamie, et all … I am so sorry for trying to give you optimism that Andy M would win this USO. I am done saying Andy is going to win this or that GS. I know he will, it’s bound to happen, but not sure when.

My fellow dear Nole fans: This victory is just awesome, unbelievable!!! Words just can’t describe it how i feel about it. This win is pretty close to my Red Sox beating Yankees in 2004, that’s all I can say.

Dear Rafa fans: I am hoping for a thrilling final on Monday. I hope finally the real Rafa will show up against Nole!

Dear Roger fans: I know how much this hurts, (I suffered lot of these when Sampras used to beat Agassi). After Roger lost to Rafa in Wimby, I had “boldly” predicted that Roger would win maximum three more GS, well I was wrong, he won four. But I think that’s it. Maybe he will get lucky one more time, maybe. Hey, we can’t fight aging :( clock is ticking :(

Dear Sam Stosur: Play like a champion and you will be this USO champion!

Well,…Jane, kimmi, skeezer, gordo, margot, jamie, marrisv, Daniel, et all … it’s been fun season, enjoy Monday’s final! Good bye for now :( I will be back during Aussie Open in January 2012 :)


Rick Says:

Can’t believe it! Roger choked against Djokovic again like he did in the semi last year! Now Djokovic is definitely in his head!


madmax Says:

Ike,

we really don’t need your commiserations from someone who cannot bear roger, so your platitudes don’t fool anyone here who knows what a whining poster you are. They are just quiet about it because they don’t want to lose their airwaves friend.

Enjoy your trolling Ike. You’re good at it.

And yeah. It was quiet here. Then you came.


madmax Says:

Rick,

You are correct. I agree with you. Roger Choked.

I hope he can recover from this.

Why didn’t you stick around to watch the match though? It was fabulous Rick.

We missed you.


serbian hammer Says:

Eric,Murray is pathetic,and his grand slam quest is going to end next year,when some talented players like Del Potro ,Tomic ,Cilic ,Dolgopolov and Raonic step up their games,not to mention Nadal owns him,Djokovic when healty could easily crush him,and Federer is still there hungry as ever.So Murray is just overrated dork who has the style and game plan just to try to tire his opponents and make them mis,well they not going to miss,and next season he drops atp rankings.I congratulate Nadal and Djokovic their wins in the semi finals of us open,because they proved that they are the best real n01 and n02.

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