It’s Federer v. Tsonga For The Paris Masters Title
by Sean Randall | November 13th, 2011, 12:11 am
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Roger Federer is coming on strong once again late in the season. Today, playing some of his best tennis of the year, Federer all but blanked Tomas Berdych 6-4, 6-3 to advance to his first final appearance at the Paris Indoors.

“The way I played today was really nice,” said Federer. “And then on top of that, getting the 800th win and today making my first [Paris] final and being the first player to do all of those nine Masters 1000.

“I thought the match was tough. I took advantage of Tomas being a touch slow maybe in the first couple of games, because once that machine is warmed up he’s a very dangerous player. But I really played great today. I didn’t give Tomas much. I was able to play aggressive and serve good, so it was overall a wonderful performance.”

Berdych, a former Paris Indoor champ, had been a bit of a nemisis to Federer, and after a strong win over Andy Murray his confidence had to have been sky high. But afterward in defeat the Czech commended Federer’s play.

“I would say, and I’m pretty confident to say, that that’s the old Roger,” said Berdych. “You know, the years that he was really winning everything. We can count the unforced errors that he hit, like maybe, on the fingers on one hand, which is incredible. He started every set really great and just didn’t give me any chance at all.”

In the final tomorrow, the Swiss will meet another power baseliner in home favorite JW Tsonga, who survived three match points to turn away John Inser 3-6, 7-6(1), 7-6(3).

“I think I went beyond frustration,” said Tsonga. “The first set was really tough. Little by little I said, ‘Listen, Jo, you have to enjoy this moment. Whatever happens, it’s a great moment. Everybody’s behind you. People are supporting you.’ What I had in mind was, ‘You don’t have to win, but at least enjoy yourself and love it.’

“I started feeling better and enjoying it, and especially trying to go forward with my returns, hit early. Even if the ball went out, at least I was playing the tennis I enjoy playing, and it helped me play better.”

Credit to Isner for playing some spectacular tennis today, and all week. This should bode really well for the big man in 2012.

As for the final, Federer leads Tsonga 5-3 winning their most recent clash at the US Open. But Tsonga beat him in a five-set crusher at Wimbledon, and if the Frenchman can get on one of those hot streaks he’ll be tough to beat, especially with the crowd behind him.

“It’s difficult to have set tactics against him.” said Tsonga. “What I like to do is be aggressive, because if I am just waiting for his shots I know I will lose. Whatever happens against Roger, I will need to play my best tennis.”

And JW knows it. He’ll have to go for winners, but with the court playing slow this could be problematic – Federer plays much better defense than Isner!

So, playing in his 99th career final Federer, I think, will have enough experience and reserves – remember JW is coming off an emotional tough third set breaker (like Monfils did last year against Murray) – and that’s why I’m going to pick Roger to get through for a second title in as many weeks and a 12th straight match win.

Federer likes power and pace which JW will give him plenty of. If Roger plays like he did Saturday it should be straightforward. But if Tsonga starts strong and fires the crowd up, then things could get interesting.

Match time is at 9am ET and Tennis Channel has live TV coverage. What a way to end the ATP’s regular season.

PARIS SUNDAY SCHEDULE

CENTRAL COURT start 12:15
[WC] J Benneteau (FRA) / N Mahut (FRA) vs [7] R Bopanna (IND) / A Qureshi (PAK)

Not Before 3:00 PM
[6] J Tsonga (FRA) vs [3] R Federer (SUI)


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81 Comments for It’s Federer v. Tsonga For The Paris Masters Title

jane Says:

I love that quote from Tsonga:

“Little by little I said, ‘Listen, Jo, you have to enjoy this moment. Whatever happens, it’s a great moment. Everybody’s behind you. People are supporting you.’ What I had in mind was, ‘You don’t have to win, but at least enjoy yourself and love it.’“I started feeling better and enjoying it, and especially trying to go forward with my returns, hit early. Even if the ball went out, at least I was playing the tennis I enjoy playing, and it helped me play better.”

The power of positive thinking: right there.


margot Says:

Love that man…:)


Wog boy Says:

Federer in two sets, easy. Not that I am going for Federer but that is reality. As a matter of fact I think that RF is going to embarass Tsonga in front of his noisy fans. Maybe it is just that everyone of the top 4 has at least one masters.


Michael Says:

The outcome of the match depends on Federer. If he plays the way he played against Berdych, then the match should end up in easy straight sets. But on the other hand, if Federer is not at his best then the match will go to three tight sets with may be Tsonga having the edge. I am hoping that Federer will win his first Masters title for the season. He is already without a major this year and a Masters Title will atleast be a soothing factor.


madmax Says:

Sean, yes, I see what you said about Wimbledon, but that was last year, this year Federer beat Tsonga in straights, so something more recent to ponder on.

It was a great match yesterday with Isner and I was really surprised how many times Isner came to the net for such a big man, he did really, really well.

Tsonga was well rested for the Isner match, having the walkover from Novak’s unfortunate injury.


madmax Says:

Federer beat Tsonga in straights at the U.S. Open, the more recent slam to Wimbledon last year.


madmax Says:

Wimbledon this year…early mornings Sean!

Anyway, Federer, play ruthless and well!


dari Says:

that is a fantastic quote!

I like Tsonga a lot, don’t get me wrong I was a bit annoyed after Wimbledon and Montreal with him, but knowing that he has such a great attitude like that puts him right back in good graces

Nonetheless, Go Rog!
It’s about crossing frontiers for him now, and Paris indoors is one of the last ones!


margot Says:

dari: he can be a bit of a prima donna (spelling?)
but just when I’m feeling cross with him, he does/says something that, like you, puts him right back on my list of favourites!
Just hope this match is…magic word…”competitive.”


Kimmi Says:

Lets get one masters this year roger. I agree with you dari. not liking tsonga too much after wimbledon and the montreal. he is the nice guy for sure but he scares me.

federer needs to bring his A game today too. Like yesterday. It will be great if he can win the tournament beating his nemesis berdych and tsonga, it will be very satisfying for him…this guys have given fed a hard time recently.


alison hodge Says:

margot i agree i also would like to see a much more competitive final,yeah if your a fan you take a win anyway it comes,and rogers a fantastic player dont get me wrong,but sometimes finals can be a bit of an anti climax,surely the most satisfying of wins are the ones where your favourite is really tested imo.


Gannu Says:

All set to Go…come on feddy bear all the best fed fans…bad start two BPs already ;-(((((((


Kimmi Says:

Hmm, tough start for roger. C’mooon!

the serve not working well so far.


Kimmi Says:

wow, tsonga is panicking


Gannu Says:

ooh la la… well it wasnt a bad start at all kimmi ;-)


Kimmi Says:

I like the way federer is attacking the second serve nowadays. this is what is making tsonga nervous when he misses his second serve.


autoFilter Says:

Baguette!


Kimmi Says:

tsonga serving well now. lets hope fed can continue to serve well


Kimmi Says:

clever tsonga serving to fed backhand now. federer missing few returns.


racquet Says:

That first set was a yawn fest. I hope Tsonga gets his act together.


Gannu Says:

And Fed brain farts again….can never do anything in a simple way…he has to make life complicated….


Kimmi Says:

BREAK!

what happened! Its long! Phew!


Kimmi Says:

c’mon federer..THE SERVE!


racquet Says:

What the hell is wrong with Tsonga? Federer’s serve goes off the boil and he blows it. Ugh!


Kimmi Says:

Fed lucky to get thru that one. wake up!!


Kimmi Says:

crunch time now..lets go fed


Kimmi Says:

much better serving there fed


Kimmi Says:

TIE BREAK!

Tsonga came out very good in the second set.

Goo fed!


alison hodge Says:

nice to see a much more competitive 2nd set.


Kimmi Says:

go federerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! two more points


Gannu Says:

hmm.. good…so please replicate this in atp world tour finals and the four Gslams next year feddy bear ;-)….Good to c u winning again baby


Kimmi Says:

Excellent tie break. Congrats fed.

18 masters shield.


alison hodge Says:

nice one roger,congrats to all his fans,kimmi come out now enjoy lol.


steve-o Says:

Congrats to Roger–he wins the title without the loss of a set! Good effort to Tsonga to fight so hard in the second set, but Federer way too strong in the tiebreak.


racquet Says:

Congrats to Federer. Tsonga was way too impulsive but at least the 2nd set was more competitive. He blew a huge chance to take it into a 3rd.


Kimmi Says:

alison, i am out. i am out!! so happy for feddy bear as gannu calls him.


green900 Says:

by winning will federer become world number 3 by overtaking andy murray?


margot Says:

Congrats to the maestro and his fans, too good today! A massacre, not really a match.
racquet: thought that against Isner too. Tsonga just isn’t the patient type! Yes, re blowing his chances too and Fed not giving any second looks.


racquet Says:

This might be a little early to bring up but my dream draw for the WTF is:

Group A:
Djokovic
Murray
Tsonga
Fish

Group B:
Nadal
Federer
Berdych
Ferrer

please


racquet Says:

Green 900: Federer does not overtake Murray. I think he needs to have an unbeaten run again at the WTF and for Murray to not do well. all the WTF points from last year get dropped tomorrow morning.


racquet Says:

Green900: I found the info. With the win today, Fed gets 400 points so on Monday his total will be 6670. Murray’s will be 7380 (a 710 point difference). It’s laid out at the following link:

http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Tennis/2011/11/45/Paris-Sunday-Briefing.aspx


trufan Says:

At the WTF -

Nadal has gotto be out of touch, and its a fast surface, not good for him.

Djokovic doesn’t have a shot – his body REALLY needs to heal up (I still think if he had just skipped Cincinnati, he wouldn’t have had these injuries).

Fish doesn’t have a chance anyway, plus he is injured.

Berdych can’t close.

Ferrer? Come on.

I think its Murray’s best shot, if Federer doesn’t do it. Or Tsonga.


Kimmi Says:

I would count out rafa. he was runner up last year. unless that shoulder injury is serious.


Kimmi Says:

ha ha what a typo. completely the opposite of what i want to say. should be..

I wouldn’t count out rafa….


trufan Says:

Ya, but Rafa was on fire in 2010. He has been much weaker in 2011 relative to 2010. Plus he has hardly played since the USO, so he cannot possibly be sharp. Federer and Murray are razor sharp right now. Remember how Murray almost beat Rafa last year, 4 hour match? This year he takes him down if they meet.


Leon Says:

Federer had control over himself much better than Tsonga today. A nice win.
racquet, yes, Federer cannot surpass Murray in the YTD rankings. A bit unfair is the fact that he did surpass him in the 52-week ATP ranking – at least for the 2 coming weeks – but it does not work! because Federer’s 2010 WTF 1500 points will disappear tomorrow, that is 2 weeks earlier than usual. This is an (understandable) exception for the WTF in order to determine the best eight from the 2011 results only, as the ATP discarded the race officially, but it’s kinda hypocritical rule, unfair to Federer in the given case, who is robbed by two #3 weeks. Does not any matter at all, though, just a curious detail.


Brando Says:

Congratulations to fed and all his fans: kimmi, madmax, skeez etc. He’s been brilliant on his return, especially in the berdych match.

He also deserved a major title such as paris masters when you consider tha he was RU at FO, SF at AUS/ US. Unlucky on ocassions in some of those matches too.

Going forward, for me and pretty much everyone here i imagine, federer is the man to beat at WTF. After roger i would go:

-Murray

-Nadal, djokovic, tsonga. ANY of these 3 winning would be A MASSIVE surprise since rafa has been out for a while and this surface does not suit him, nole due to fitness concerns and tsonga since he has never won such a major event before.

-Berdych, fish and ferrer- i would have in that order. You just cannot see any of them pulling it off.


racquet Says:

I agree that it’s Murray’s best shot. He is coming in after an excellent year (on the whole) and having consistently played more aggressively than previous years. The reason I hope that Fed/Nadal are in the same group is so that they can beat other up before either meets Andy. Normally he gets beaten up (defeating Fed in Shanghai) or does the beating up (Nadal last year) before the semis.


racquet Says:

I agree that it’s Murray’s best shot. He is coming in after an excellent year (on the whole) and having consistently played more aggressively than previous years. The reason I hope that Fed/Nadal are in the same group is so that they can beat other up before either meets Andy. Normally he gets beaten up (defeating Fed in Shanghai) or does the beating up (Nadal last year).

Fish and Djokovic are dubious, Berdych always iffy and Ferrer ends up being the punching bag. However, I agree with Kimmi: count Nadal out at your peril.


jane Says:

Congrats to Fed – and fans. Nice back to back wins over two players who have kept it close or won in their matches lately.

I say Murray or Fed for WTF, like most here.


Brando Says:

According to the ATP rankings for singles the difference between andy and roger was 250 points prior to this event.

Now roger was defending 360 points (SF) from last year. He did and added a further 640 points. So according to my count, he should now be 390 points clear. Now he cannot add a single point at WTF, as we know, only defend 1,500 points.

Now andy gained 0 points from paris as he defended the QT points from last year. He has 400 points (SF) at WTF to defend.

Based on this, i think the most REALISTIC scenario for andy would be if he were to win all 3 RR, so gain a surplus of 200 points. And roger were to lose a match at WTF, losing 200 points. Andy would then finish no. 3 by a MERE 10 POINTS! provided the maths is correct.

I think andy’s dream draw would be:

-Nole: Due to injury concerns ONLY
-Ferrer
-Fish

And then hope rafa, tsonga or berdych beat roger in a RR- or maybe do so himself in the SF/ Final :-)


trufan Says:

I agree, Fed has the best chance, followed by Murray, of winning the WTF. I doubt even Tsonga – he has never won a big one – has won only one Masters trophy, that too at home (Paris 2008). So he has never really closed the deal.

I hope Federer takes this as encouragement and gives 2012 one last big push to squeeze out a major or two. He should just retire then, or play a limited schedule. Once he drops out of the top 4 (not likely any time soon though), his chances of winning a major just evaporate.


trufan Says:

BTW, if Federer wins the WTF, it would be his 100th final, 70th title. Nice numbers.

With 16 slams, 5 WTF, and 18 masters titles – Federer has a majority of his titles in BIG tournaments (39 out of 69 total so far). And SO MANY finals in addition to these – 7 slam finals, 1 WTF, 12 masters, so 20 of the remaining finals are BIG ONES. Its just amazing – to be in 99 finals, of which 59 are finals of slams, WTF or masters. And pretty evenly distributed across surfaces – I think about 17 or 18 of these finals are on clay, perhaps most of the losses to Nadal (or maybe all? – Has federer ever lost a clay final to anyone other than Nadal????).


Kimmi Says:

Nice picture of fed on ATP page. Big smile. looks very happy.

players that has beaten rafa this year since the start of asian swing have played out of this world tennis. Murray was extra good, and mayer was outstanding in their match in shanghai.

Anyways, what i know is, to beat rafa the opponent has to bring their best tennis. Anything short they will lose. That is why i will never count him out.

I agree about djokovic though. he hasnt played well since coming back. i dont know if that shoulder will be ready by next week.


Brando Says:

@Kimmi:

Your reasonings sound pretty accurate to me. Its probably the fact that i am a rafa fan and naturally feel pessimistic about his chances on indoor courts (only 1 title EVER).

Throw in the time out and the fact that it is the best 8 in the world,then it really looks tough.

I do feel sorry for nole since aside from his form this year, he is actually a very good indoor player. On top form, i would federer, murray, djokovic- in that order on a indoor court.


trufan Says:

What also amazes me is how Ferrer is still hanging in there as a clear No 5!!! A 5 foot 9 guy who is almost 30 years old, mainly a clay courter, still gutting it… Very impressive.

I bet next years WTF list will look very different. Ferrer, Fish, Berdych drop out. DelPo steps in, plus two others…. maybe monfils, dolgopolov?


margot Says:

racquet @ 11.47, you’ve made me laugh in rather a sad way! Poor Andy is now the “fall guy” of the tour, either beating himself up or beating others up in order to “help” the other Big 3. He’s just performed this task again too, with Berdych, lol.


grendel Says:

The scoring system in tennis is unforgiving. You can get as close as you like, again and again – and still end up losing easily. Thus Fed takes the first set 6-1, but Tsonga actually has one more winner. I suppose at some subliminal level, even without looking at the figures, you take that in. Maybe Tsonga knew that the scoreboard was misleading. At any rate, he upped his game dramatically and I thought Federer dropped his a little – in particular, his first serves seemed to have less vim, though that’s hard to prove. Certainly, serving at 1-2, spraying doublefaults(?), it began to look as if the ghosts of Wimbledon – and elsewhere – had come to haunt him. For confidence works both ways; at least twice Tsonga has come back from being heavily behind to defeat Fed, so he’s definitely going to think he’s right in there – but presumably Federer will be juggling angels and demons: he knows how to reverse previous disasters, and he knows how they can be compounded, too. How come he hasn’t got grey hair?

As I watched Federer negotiating the high ropes against an opponent whose capacity for inspiration can turn the whole panoply of logic and experience into empty wittering, it seemed to me (as it has done before) that the borderline between genius and banality can be surprisingly thin. Federer can look quite ordinary. What? Federer? Are you drunk, man? A Djokovic or Nadal, on song, are relentless, they either hit hard and accurately or negotiate a position from which you know they are going to hit hard and accurately. Federer, though, can hit a sort of nothing ball as if he’s been disturbed from some dream, and you have no idea what he is up to and wonder whether he does. And of course, he often gets punished for these apparently errant deliveries. And then out of nowhere, he strings together a series of shots which amount to magic. Djokovic once said of Federer that he plays mind games with his opponents, and I think it is the case that some of Federer’s victories are often much closer than memory suggests. He treads the margins with a certain insouciance. With very dangerous opponents, he seems to pick moments in which to deliver a series of crushing blows, and then wanders back to a sort of sleepwalking which worries his fans and irritates himself. It doesn’t always come off. Incidentally, I don’t think Djokovic’s charge is correct – I don’t think he understands the Federer psyche as it is exemplified on court. Mind you, who does?

Fed only just held at 3-4, and he was serving at only 48% at this point, and he put in a lackadaisical return to give what must have been a disappointed Tsonga an easy put away. Was Federer counting on drawing the error from the soft ball? Possibly, but Federer is like a sleepy wolf who seems to be doing nothing very much, just biding his time for the pounce. And it came that very game. Tsonga put in a pretty good lob volley, Federer suddenly woke up, raced back to the line and executed an improbable bh crosscourt winner. Out of nowhere, breakpoint – and the match on the line. Still, Tsonga was oozing confidence by this time, and he swept away the danger with his own gloriously athletic brand of power tennis.

Federer’s last service game of the set seemed to me qualitatively different from his others. Smooth and confident, it launched Fed into the breaker. Whereas through most of the 2nd set I felt Federer was barely holding off Tsonga and a 3rd seemed inevitable, now the sleepy wolf looked alive, and I was convinced Federer would take the tie break. Timing is all. Knife edge stuff, though.

Tsonga had 28 winners to Federer’s 20, although the respective winner:ue ratios were 1.04 and 1.33. Generally, you can say with confidence whether you think a match has been close or not. Where Federer the sphinx is concerned, somehow judgements slide away like the Cheshire cat’s grin…


trufan Says:

WTF is best of three – Nadal thrives on best of 5 matches. Plus the truly fast low bouncing indoor courts. Plus two months of rust. Plus a few razor sharp players (Fed, Murray, Tsonga, even Berdych, not to count out Djokovic). Plus the pressure of wanting to win at least one WTF (he is getting up in age too, and it really doesn’t look good on the resume if you want to claim GOAT status if you don’t have a single WTF win).

I don’t think Nadal is going to make it.

Like clockwork, he did raise the “injury white flag” already, so that there is an excuse ready when he loses, or at least enough to create a doubt.

BTW, where IS Humble Rafa?


margot Says:

grendel, the other thing about Fed is the capacity to astonish and thus disarm. Player B hits an amazing shot, kind of stands there smirking and Fed, hardly seeming to move, hits an incredible winner right back. Player B’s jaw hits the floor and he moves disconsolately away.
That backhand you mention was one such, though admittedly Fed did move a bit ..;)


steve-o Says:

@trufan: Nadal has not been weak this season; Djokovic has been strong.

Nadal has made the final of every tournament he won last year (plus IW and Miami), and seven straight finals from IW to RG. He is not playing poorly at all.

Take Djokovic out of the picture and Nadal is the clear #1, having swept the clay season, defended his three major titles from last year, and won IW and Miami into the bargain. He would be having a better year than 2010.

As it is he is now 3-7 in finals this year, and his three titles were all on clay. That’s how complete Djokovic’s dominance of the first 2/3 of the season was.

There was “shoulder tendinitis” last year, too–he pulled out of Paris, just like this year. And then he was very tough in London, growing stronger with every match until he produced a serving masterclass to edge Murray; only Federer could stop him.

I suspect this latest hullaballoo is yet more ado about nothing at all. But people have short memories, and they forget the ten thousand times Nadal has claimed injury only to play like a beast in the very next moment.

Even as recently as USO, when he dramatically collapsed in pain in a press conference, only to make it to the final with the loss of only one set.

In his QF against Nadal, Roddick did not make a single forehand winner the entire match. Not one! Such was Nadal’s defense. And Nadal won the first set 6-2 while serving under fifty percent. All while “injured”!

I will venture a prediction for London: Nadal will show up looking a little ragged, but will get stronger match by match until only Federer and Djokovic have any chance to stop him.


jane Says:

Congrats to Blank and Kimberly for winning the Paris draw challenge – - – and to Kimmi for finishing first on the year!!

Agree with you Kimmi that it is tough to count out Rafa until we see him playing.


racquet Says:

racquet @ 11.47, you’ve made me laugh in rather a sad way!

well, sad but often true. The plus side is fans get to witness classic matches. The Shanghai RR with Federer was the match of that WTF and the SF with Nadal last year was the match of the tournament. Anyway, we Murray fans need a healthy (if not dark) sense of humor to get by. :)


margot Says:

racquet @ 12.46, you are so right my friend, a sense of humour is a pre-requisite for being a Murray fan. You can add the Berdych/Murray match as being THE match of this tournament too….*mournful laughter*
steve-o: interesting but…I think Rafa often needs to play himself into tournaments. At WTF you’ve not got that luxury. You’ve got to be ready to rock and roll from the off. It’s a different scenario and at the moment Fed looks mighty good.
Of course, never, never, write Rafa off.


trufan Says:

steve-o

“If you take Djokovic out of the picture, nadal is no 1″….

That is funny, real funny. Yeah right – if you take Nadal out of the picture, Fed has 5 french open titles.

Problem is – you can’t. Reality is – Djoke beat the crap out of nadal this year. Worse than anything nadal did to federer. just being one year older led to nadal completely being vanquished by djokovic.

then your second comment is even more strange – “they forget the ten thousand times Nadal has claimed injury only to play like a beast in the very next moment”

That’s exactly what many people say. IF his injuries are real – then he can’t possibly play like a beast the next day, can he? So much for choking on a banana (remember that???).

Every time nadal loses, or thinks he might lose – there comes the injury excuse, before or after. And the hypocrisy on top of it – “I don’t want to talk about it, just want to congratulate my opponent”. BS. Then why bring it up at all? He talks about it JUST enough, then goes back to political correctness. Wake up.


madmax Says:

I hope Federer takes this as encouragement and gives 2012 one last big push to squeeze out a major or two. He should just retire then, or play a limited schedule. Once he drops out of the top 4 (not likely any time soon though), his chances of winning a major just evaporate.

November 13th, 2011 at 11:56 am

trufan Says:
BTW, if Federer wins the WTF, it would be his 100th final, 70th title. Nice numbers.

With 16 slams, 5 WTF, and 18 masters titles – Federer has a majority of his titles in BIG tournaments (39 out of 69 total so far). And SO MANY finals in addition to these – 7 slam finals, 1 WTF, 12 masters, so 20 of the remaining finals are BIG ONES. Its just amazing – to be in 99 finals, of which 59 are finals of slams, WTF or masters. And pretty evenly distributed across surfaces – I think about 17 or 18 of these finals are on clay, perhaps most of the losses to Nadal (or maybe all? – Has federer ever lost a clay final to anyone other than Nadal????).

November 13th, 2011 at 12:00 pm

trufan, for about 2.5 years now, (may be more months…(ish), we have been listening to ‘Federer should retire’. I don’t subscribe to that theory or request or plea, to me it’s a ‘Please no’. Federer, just keep on going, crushing Europe in the process.

What a master of the game, really. Not a classic final, but one of many fine proportions, with a comeback from tsonga, which is always elicits hopes from the french crowd, you can never count tsonga out until the last moments.

I’ll never forget the time when Fed was 5 1 up and lost the match points in the process, I think it was cincinnati? grendel, you are good on your stats, and tsonga came back. These moments are always tricky to overcome, but federer has I believe.

trufan, IF fed wins WTF (reference your second post), it will be 6 WTF not 5 which would be even more amazing), but guessing at this stage is futile.

Fed said that any of the top 8 can win the WTF, of course in all probability, he will be right there and I figure, no one is going to take the trophy away from him. It is sticking like glue to his greedy fingers right now. Greedy for more.

Which is what we are as fed fans, greedy for me. It sure puts me in a good mood for the rest of the week.

I am trying to find a link for the presentation ceremony, can anyone help here?

grendel, your posts rock right now. I think you’ve been on the whiskey! :) So entertaining – thank you.

Made my Sunday.


madmax Says:

*greedy for more!* :)


bstevens Says:

madmax, it was 2009 in montreal when Federer blew a 5-1 lead to Tsonga in the final set. Federer seems to have a tough time playing in French-speaking tournaments (Montreal, Roland Garros and Bercy). Both times he won the Canadian Masters they were held in Toronto (2004,2006). Nice to see him win this title.


Brando Says:

@trufan:

Go take a cold shower.

Federer wins a master series today for the 1st time in a long while. So what do you do?

Rather than being joyous about it, all you seem to be doing in your posts is getting a ‘rise’ for rafa when he’s not even playing!


Tennislover Says:

“Now he cannot add a single point at WTF, as we know, only defend 1,500 points.”

You never defend your WTF points because it is an event meant only for those who are eligible for it. The ATP regular season ended today and the 2010 WTF points will drop from the system tomorrow. Therefore the eligible players can only add to their points tally at the 2011 WTF. Murray’s ranking appears safe given that he seems to be the favorite for WTF. Only a horrible show from Murray and a great show from Federer will change things.

“Plus the truly fast low bouncing indoor courts”

The WTF surface in London is not fast at all. Its a far cry from the blazing fast indoor carpet on which Sampras and Becker used to contest the YEC in the mid-90s. In fact, last year’s surface was considered even slower than the one in 2009. The only thing against Nadal is the relatively low bounce.

I can understand the speculation about the form and fitness of the participants. This could potentially make it more open than it normally is. Federer thinks its wide open although I doubt we will have a Davydenko-like situation. He was simply sensational in 2009 and when he is playing great, which admittedly is rare, he is an absolute nightmare to play against in the shorter format. Berdych seems to be in good touch and so does Tsonga but they lack consistency. I still feel Djokovic and especially Nadal will give one last push and it probably will again be down to the big four.


alison hodge Says:

nice to see sensible posts from margot,jane,kimmi and steve-o,to write rafa of would be silly ,never has won wtf,does not mean never will win wtf,a realist will see something can go either way,one things for sure win or loose rafa will either suceed or die trying,people said rafa would never win,wimbledon,uso,or another grand slam ever again after his injury in 09,and guess what he did,as for wtf who knows time will tell,all we know for sure now,is that we know nothing,its all based on form,and what we think will happen,so trufan lets wait and see.


Brando Says:

@Alison:

Nice post re rafa. I think trufan just had a momentary lapse in judgement really. Let’s give him/her the benfit of doubt. He/She usually is more trufan as opposed to tru nut their posts.

@Tennislover: I did not know that. So what would murray have to do at WTF in order to seal the no.3 spot, regardless of whatever fed is able to do there?


Nina Says:

I’m really happy for Federer, I really am. He looked touched out there! can you believe it? He felt emotionally charged because he won the only MS that he didn’t have. And of course he was moved because it was his first important title this year.

It’s nice to see that Roger still cares after winning everything under the sun and then some. Kudos to him for finding that hunger again and the will to compete. I think he will do very well in London.

Unfortunately i don’t see either Nole or Rafa playing at their best there, their chances are slim. And Murray as always is an incognite to me. Will we see the Murray we are all waiting to see? or will we see the Murray we saw in Paris? Come on, Andy, it’s time for your breakthrough! You can’t wait any longer!

It’s going to be interesting…


skeezerweezer Says:

Brando,

Tx :-)

grendel,

Appreciate the details of the match, am traveling and missed it. Excellent write!

Madmax,

Yes!!!!!!! Fed wins a masters where the younger field melted away…… :)

Thanks Fed for still dishing out another title!!


Nina Says:

By the way, Federer is now the most successful HC player in the Open era (also the most successful grass player with 11 titles).

1. Roger Federer 47
2. Andre Agassi 46
3. Jimmy Connors 44
4. Pete Sampras 36
5. Ivan Lendl 31
6. Stefan Edberg 23
7. John McEnroe 22
8. Michael Chang 21
9. Novak Djokovic 20

Glad to see Novak making the Top 10 along such illustrious names. :)


jane Says:

Heyho, there is Nole in great company!

(Not to steal Fed’s thunder, though.)


trufan Says:

madmax,

Its been nearly two years since Federer won a slam. The ONLY final he has been to is the French this year (in almost 2 years). If that’s not decline, what is? The writing is clearly there on the wall…… Of course, people can choose to ignore facts and hallucinate….

and Brando,

stick to comments about players and their game. If you can’t take the facts, or don’t have arguments to support your case, then stop posting, instead of hurling personal remarks at people you don’t know.

Federer had a blazing end to the season last year too – but really didn’t win anything for most of this year. it could happen again – after all, it has happened before, just recently! And Fed will be 31 next year – come on, that’s grandpa age in tennis.


dari Says:

whoa, kimmi won the year?! CONGARTULATION, kimmi!
fed fan doin us proud :)

i gotta go check out the board, i have been a late year slacker


Tennislover Says:

Brando: IF Federer goes unbeaten again this year i.e. earn the full 1500 points on offer, Murray has to earn at least 800 points at WTF as he is ahead by 710 points at the end of Bercy. This would mean reaching the final with at least two RR wins. If Federer loses one of the RR matches on his way to the title, Murray has to reach only the semi provided he wins all three of his RR matches. Remember, RR wins are worth 200 points each, semi win worth an additional 400 points and final win worth a further 500 points.


steve-o Says:

Interestingly, Federer has never beaten Tsonga in a match that went all the way, whether in best of three or best of five. All his wins over Tsonga have been straight sets. So far, if he loses even one set to Tsonga, he’s ended up losing the match.

It was crucial, therefore, that he won today in straight sets.


Leon Says:

grendel, one more nice post @12.22 pm. Lots of resonating thoughts, and…”how come he hasn’t got grey hair?”, really – the question I asked myself many times.
And this: “He treads the margins with a certain insouciance.” That’s true, I was astonished (and irritated,of course) at this manner even during his prime years, not saying later. Btw, once he noted that many of his wins in the domination period were in fact far closer that people might think. Maybe, he instinctively knows that perfection should not abound? Again, see the last sentences of your post.

steve-o @2.56 pm: interesting but too strong conclusion. Every time is a new match, and concerning his loss at Montreal 2009 67 61 67, it was rather a fluke (if not worse), as far as I remember. After a close lottery-win first set to Tsonga, there was all Federer in the second and third – until 5-1, and then Tsonga took an MTO. He had a prolonged treatment and could barely walk on returning to the court, showing by every slight move the inevitability of retirement. It’s well known that Federer hates to play against an injured opponent, irrespective of the injury degree/truth, his level immediately drops drastically (the last example was the match vs Meltzer when the latter took a prolonged off-court MTO right after the first game! then I was absolutely sure that Federer would lose – in straight). So he went awol for a game, and suddenly Tsonga started sending his bombs left and right from any point without any restrictions. Then…Federer was present on the court, of course, but visibly lost all his interest in the outcome. In general, Jo-Wielfried is a nice guy, but I couldn’t help losing a bit of my respecting him that time…

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