Federer, Nadal Earn 3-Set Wins to Open ATP Masters in London
by Staff | November 20th, 2011, 9:16 pm
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The “old guard” of former No. 1s, Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal, opened with three-set wins on Sunday at the ATP year-end Masters event, the year-end event that changes names almost fortnightly and is this year known as the Barclays ATP World Tour Finals in London.


Federer defeated his Wimbledon conqueror Jo-Wilfried Tsonga 6-2, 2-6, 6-4, and Nadal finished off the day by weathering illness and an almost-three-hour encounter with American and first-time Masters contestant Mardy Fish.

Fish, who came into the event with an injured hamstring, took the contest to the Spaniard with an old-school display of serve and volley tennis. The American fought off set points in the third before his ground game failed him in the tiebreaker.

“It was a very important victory for me, for my confidence, to start the tournament with positive feelings,” said Nadal, who reportedly threw-up during the match due to a stomach illness. “I think I played a very good first set after the break from the beginning. The second was hard. I made a big mistake at 0-1, 40-15 for me in the beginning of the second. That [gave him] a lot of confidence and after that, all the match was close. The third set was a little bit more crazy, up and down. I was seriously really lucky for the victory, and I for sure am very happy.”

Fish’s high-risk strategy showed in the final stats — Nadal hit 18 winners and committed 27 unforced errors, where Fish had 35 winners and 50 errors.

“I was just excited to get out there and be a part of this whole thing,” said Fish, who led 3-0 in the second set. “I didn’t play well. Obviously I got a little more comfortable after playing a set. Sort of getting used to all the surroundings with people in there. With the lights back, dark, it makes for good tennis. Conditions are absolutely perfect. That took a little bit of getting used to, I guess, 20 minutes or so.”

Nadal will next face Federer on Tuesday night in London, and Fish will meet Tsonga.

Like the Paris Masters final a week ago, Federer again got the best of Tsonga.

“I thought it was a good first set [and] even the second set was fine,” Federer said. “But he did well to serve bigger and better as the match went on. Once he got the upper hand in the second set, he started to swing more freely and got more dangerous…It’s really hard to get into any sort of rhythm against him from the baseline because he’s a very good 1-2 puncher, which he proved over four and a half sets against me at Wimbledon. I think that makes him particularly hard to return sometimes.”

Serving at 4-5 in the third, Tsonga quickly lost the first three points before eventually succumbing to the Swiss, but still has a chance to advance to the semifinals in the round robin format.

“In the first set, I didn’t put one ball in the court, and that’s it,” Tsonga said. “Then I started playing better. I think he was a bit surprised, because I played so badly in the first set. Then I played correctly. It’s better to start with a victory. But I’m still in the tournament and I will try to play my best tennis in the next match.”

Monday in London will feature (3) Andy Murray vs. (5) David Ferrer, and in the night match (1) Novak Djokovic vs. (7) Tomas Berdych.

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129 Comments for Federer, Nadal Earn 3-Set Wins to Open ATP Masters in London

Anonymous Says:

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El Flaco Says:

The surface at the 02 is made by Greenset. Here is a list of other tournaments that use a Greenset surface.

http://www.greenset.net/en/tournament.html

On a ratings scale of 1 to 5 with 5 being the fastest this court is rated 2 – slow/medium. Mark Petchey gives a description in this video.

http://www.atpworldtour.com/Finals/2011/Tennis/Media/Videos/2009/11/Barclays-Baseline-Court-Surface.aspx


Andre Wright Says:

Yes both games was awesome. I really love how both game sent each player winning a set then the deciding set came down. Great start to ATP Finals week. Fish and Nadal game was so exciting. Tennis is great!!!


jane Says:

Okay, well. No Murray/Ferrer, Nole/Berdy threads I guess. But there are matches on today too. Ferrer is playing tough. Maybe if the surface is that slow it suits him?


skeezerweezer Says:

Hi Jane….yah that Nole Berdy match should be a fun one. When does that start today? Murray SHOULD handle Ferrer…depends on if Murray is wanting to drink tea or Beer after.


jane Says:

Hey skeeze, Muzza’s first serve percentage is below 50% so that’s making it tough. Nole/Berdy is on in a few hours after this. Might be hard for me to watch as I’ll be at work. Will have to check in on scores. A little nervous: Nole says shoulder is fine, but who knows if it really is. Of course he is not going to say “My shoulder is 50%.” lol. But fingers crossed. Anyhow, meantime, come on Murray!


jane Says:

Erm, so much for that: Ferrer in straight sets. Congrats to him but bummed for Murray. He has to sort out his serve; cannot get wins if he is serving below 50%, especially against top guys, and fabulous returners/retrievers like Daveed.


jane Says:

skeeze, re: that article you posted on Noah’s comments: maybe it did make Ferrer mad?!!


Colin Says:

A commentator was suggesting that the physical problem was actually the cause of Murray’s poor serving. If so, firstly the serving percentage was not entirely Andy’s fault, and secondly this does not look good for the his tournament. He may fail to progress or withdraw, and tonight we might just possibly see a similar scenario with Djokovic. I hope not!
Regarding the Noah remarks, I’m reminded of early detective stories where the murderer uses an exotic poison which the author never identifies. This was rightly condemned by critics as cheating, and it’s the same here. If Noah claims the Spaniards are taking some wonder drug, it’s up to him to tell us what it is – or at least to do some research before making big accusations.


Colin Says:

For “the his tournament”, read “his tournament”.


jane Says:

True Colin, his leg. :( I hope he can continue but not at the expense of anything serious or worsening.

Agree about Noah’s comments: possibly libelous.


andrea Says:

i wonder if the federer commentary actually got under murray’s skin today? you have to wonder a little bit about roger’s take on andy. he does seem to be a little more blunt and vocal about possible andy’s perceived shortcomings or accomplishments. i personally found it a little strange that roger basically dismissed andy’s asian title runs, indicating that no one of any significance was there hence the wins, when the tables could be turned and the same thing could be said about Basel (no nadal, murray pulled out) and Paris (no nadal, murray and djokovic out early).

anyway, shame that murray lost today. he’s starting in the hole….curious to see the form of berdych and novak later today. even though berdych can be dangerous and pull a one match upset, i have even less faith in tomas than in andy to put together a string of wins here and take the title.


skeezerweezer Says:

Murrays achilles heal has always been his second serve, and the tour knows it. He has the natural body type to serve big, hope he gets that down one day soon.


racquet Says:

That was agonizing to watch. Haven’t Andy that flat since the Spring. Ferrer deserved it for hanging tough but, boy, did Andy gift him lots of points. I hope the strain he suffered isn’t serious.

Looks like it might be uphill battle now but I’ll reserve judgement until I see the form of Djoko/Berdych tonight.


Kimberly Says:

At first when I saw the score I said what happened? Then I looked at the stats and got the answer 44 percent first serve


Ben Pronin Says:

Because what Noah isn’t at all possible? He didn’t name anyone specifically, he called out the country, and rightfully so. And he didn’t even claim it was tennis, he said all sports. Again, rightfully so. It’s 2011, not 1911. After what we’ve seen in baseball and track and cycling, why is everyone so quick to defend possible dopers. And the best part is Noah doesn’t even say it’s wrong, he says France should start doing the same thing as Spain.


madmax Says:

It is a shame about today for Murray. It was simply not expected and I do feel sorry for him (not in terms of his tennis), but I wish for his sakes that sky in particular would stop building him up. He would do well to listen to no one when he comes into this type of event on his home turf. It’s too much.

andrea Says:
i wonder if the federer commentary actually got under murray’s skin today? you have to wonder a little bit about roger’s take on andy. he does seem to be a little more blunt and vocal about possible andy’s perceived shortcomings or accomplishments. i personally found it a little strange that roger basically dismissed andy’s asian title runs, indicating that no one of any significance was there hence the wins, when the tables could be turned and the same thing could be said about Basel (no nadal, murray pulled out) and Paris (no nadal, murray and djokovic out early).

andrea, I hear what you say here, but please, could I ask you to read the whole interview and also what other players said, not just federer. He said a lot of positive things about Andy which I put on the other thread. A lot of positive things. Andy had his own comments to make and I think he is a man now, so can hold it together in terms of people’s comments.

As for Paris, Bercy. I don’t think it is the same argument, because BOTH murray and novak DID play, but they were beaten (Murray’s match was close against Berdych, tie break); just no one expected Andy to lose and why should they? He was one of the favourites along with Novak to win.

Just that Roger played better and deserved to win.

grendel, here is someting to lighten the anxiety you must be feeling about Murray right now; you will have seen this I am sure on BBC sport, live text. It was funny (about the marry me comment. It’s the sort of thing, I feel you would say).

“Murray has been treated and he takes to his chair before changing shirts – not even a lone wolf-whistle from the crowd, which is a mark of how flat it is out there. A little girl waves a ‘Will You Marry Me’ banner behind Murray’s head – she might have to wait a few years, it’s not the 1500s any more!


steve-o Says:

@andrea: But Federer never said he was the favorite to win London on the basis of his victories in Basel/Paris.

There’s no double standard in his pointing out the weakness of the field that Murray faced, because he never said that his own opponents were that strong.

Presumably he was asked whether Murray’s performance in Asia was a big breakthrough and whether it meant he was a favorite for the YEC and Grand Slams next year. If that was the question (and knowing the British media, it probably was), it was perfectly reasonable for Federer to respond as he did.

Of course the British media won’t actually tell us what question they did ask, preferring to stoke controversy by taking the juiciest quotes and stripping them of context.

When discussing his own chances in London, Federer said that the field was very open, which is proving to be exactly the case.

Last year Federer swept the entire round-robin without the loss of a set. This year he has already lost one set and faces probably the toughest round-robin match of his career vs Nadal.

Everyone was expecting Murray to at least come in second to Djokovic, and now he’s facing elimination if he doesn’t win his next match.


Kimberly Says:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/tennis/2011-11-20-3406932303_x.htm

Nadal and Ferrer not happy about Noah’s comments


racquet Says:

Crap! Neil Harman just tweeted that Murray has a groin injury and will decide tomorrow whether to continue or withdraw.


Skorocel Says:

“Magic potion”? LOL :-)


skeezerweezer Says:

Actually American coaches have traveled to Spain to watch how they train as they consider there program world class. They didn’t come back and mention “magic potion”.


andrea Says:

i should add to my comments that roger is my #1 player. i don’t think his comments about andy were out of character or out of line – as a swiss person he speaks very factually, whether anyone agrees or not. i just think that particular observation wasn’t all that relevant – as andy says, you only play whoever makes it thru your draw – regardless of all the other nice things roger said.


Brando Says:

Bad news re Murray. Hope he can continue to play but he did say that if it wasn’t the WTF or a slam- he would not play. It could be that he withdraws tomorrow. As for the Noah comment, the Spanish contingent is absolutely correct to call him an idiot. You cannot make such senseless accusations without evidence supporting it, and clearly it seems that this maybe a simple case of a sour individual just envious of rhe success of Spain in recent years, as opposed to that of his own country, France. No saw that one coming did they?


madmax Says:

Do you think that Noah was talking about one athlete though Brando?

If my memory serves me correctly, Contador was “done” for drug taking at the tour de France.

Isn’t that right? And he denied it as well. That was supported with evidence too…blood samples…I haven’t read the whole interview, so may be I should, but perhaps he was talking about this one incident?

And I think Contador lost the yellow jersey at one stage of the race because of this? Please tell me if I have got this wrong.


Colin Says:

Mr Pronoun, among civilised people there is a convention of “innocent umtil proved guilty”. If all Spanish sports were using some wonder drug, we’d be looking at a huge conspiracy. Other athletes – and coaches – round the world would want some of the stuff, and do you suppose nobody would have leaked the details, whether though honest whistle-blowing or for monetary reward? Not perhaps totally impossible, but very, very improbable.
The onus of proof is on Noah… and on you!


Brando Says:

@madmax: I do not think so. Since he said when “one country dominates”, he’s pretty much implying that it’s a national practice as opposed to one particular individual. I think his own countrymen like tsonga have responded to this in the best way by saying that they would love to see the proof, since otherwise this is completely false as no evidence exists! As colin says the burden of proof is firmly on Mr Noah, and if he fails to provide it, as rafa said, I do not think he should be allowed to write for a national newspaper when he’s writing wild junk such as this.


Ben Pronin Says:

So this is supposed to be a mature conversation and distorting my name somehow gives you an edge? Right…

Do a little research, there’s plenty of proof. Noah, and tons of other people that work for agencies and anti-doping committees, have called out Spain for having a really high number of doping cases.

The issue Noah takes isn’t just the doping, it’s the government involvement. Other countries have athletes who dope, including France and America and Russia and you name it, but just from some observation, it doesn’t look like any government goes to the same lengths to protect their athletes the way Spain does.


dari Says:

Tough nuts for my man Murray, hope he is ok, or at least will be smart enough to pull out before he does longer term damage.
I’m sure janko or nico would love to play!


marrisv Says:

Looks like Djoko/berdy started. Can anybody recommend a live stream for this match?


alison hodge Says:

i have to say congrats to david for playing a pretty solid match,to be honest a deserved winner,a pretty dissapointing match from muzza,hopefully he will put in a better performance in the next round,i just hope the injury is not too bad and he can carry on playing


marrisv Says:

looks like berdy out to a fast start


carlo Says:

http://www.lshunter.tv/tennis-live-streaming-video.html

or Fromsport.com (lemonsport)

The quality is better on livescorehunter, I think.


carlo Says:

What is wrong with Djokovic?


marrisv Says:

Thanks @carlo.

looks like Djokovic may get one of the breaks back


Ben Pronin Says:

Misfiring on the forehand. Can’t hold serve to save his life. Berdych playing extremely well, very aggressive and probably the best defense I’ve ever seen him play.


carlo Says:

No problem, Marrisv. The streams are all lagging again, like yesterday. It’s difficult to tell what is going on.

Appears Novak cannot serve. Not good at all.


racquet Says:

What’s wrong is too many UFEs at the moment and an aggressive Berdy. Djoko seemed to be finding his range in the last game.


Ben Pronin Says:

I kinda wanna see Murray and Djokovic play each other while they’re both dealing with injuries. I feel like it would be hilariously awful.


Ben Pronin Says:

I’m wondering if Djokovic is struggling to deal with Berdych’s pace. He’s returning as well as ever but he’s missing off the ground more often than usual. Looks like Berdych may have cooled off, though, wild misses coming from his end now.


carlo Says:

Berdych isn’t too hot today serving either.

Right. Novak finding his range or Tomas losing his?


racquet Says:

Berdych takes the 1st set 6-3. Djoko is fighting back though. This is the best I’ve seen Berdych play in ages.


racquet Says:

Finally, Nole breaks. Leads 2-0 in the 2nd set.


Ben Pronin Says:

I think, at least in the first set, Berdych has played the best tennis the tournament has seen so far. That could quickly change, of course.


Brando Says:

Nole’s stepped up- BUT really t-bird is cracking at the 1st sign of a battle, as usual! Nole should win this 1 now!


racquet Says:

Berdy’s forehand is starting to misfire a bit. Hit a couple of whoppers in that last game. Defense is still impressive. Nole starting to mutter now.


alison hodge Says:

roger,rafa and now nole all doing it the hard way.


racquet Says:

Some fabulous rallies at the moment.


Kimmi Says:

djokovic BH down the line is the beauty


marrisv Says:

on to the third…


mat4 Says:

Nole is far from his best. His backhand looks vulnerable.


mat4 Says:

Berdych is playing well.


Kimmi Says:

WOW! berdych is playing well here


marrisv Says:

berdy hanging tough


Brando Says:

Come on t-bird, do not choke this one!


racquet Says:

He’s defending well enough. Berdych is hanging in there and taking the game to Djoko. Will it last?


Kimmi Says:

How hard is berdych hitting? no wonder federer is calling him the machine.


marrisv Says:

wow, berdych is pounding his forehand…


marrisv Says:

WOWW….t-bird is on fire….


racquet Says:

Well well. Berdy breaks with a scorching forehand.


marrisv Says:

can he hold now?


mat4 Says:

Berdych played an excellent game.

His raw power is making the different on this surface.


mat4 Says:

… the difference…


Kimmi Says:

djokovic could not find the first set..berdy hit winner after winner


mat4 Says:

… chocking?


marrisv Says:

2 Doubles… @brando – i think the choke has set in…


mat4 Says:

… chocking!


racquet Says:

Typical. Can’t hold.


Kimmi Says:

djoko needs to serve well here..go go go


mat4 Says:

Berdych is quite aggressive on the return.


mat4 Says:

It just looks like lady Luck has chosen his side.


mat4 Says:

… but you never know.


carlo Says:

Spectacular choke by Berdych his last service game.


carlo Says:

Berdych may hold here. 40-0


Kimmi Says:

berdych hold here..he breaks. that is it!!


mat4 Says:

It seems Berdych has found his range again.

The rebound is strange at times.


Kimmi Says:

berdy hold easily! djoko to serve again.


Kimmi Says:

if berdych plays this all the time, he can be number 1, no question about that. He has so much power and so smooth.


Kimmi Says:

it feels like djokovic is serving all the time :)


Brando Says:

@marrisv: yep, a masterclass as ever.


Daniel Says:

Wow, Djoko saved match point. This looks like it eill be another Djoko houdini act..


mat4 Says:

I can’t see Djoko making it to the tb.

Then, I don’t see he could win the tb.

But you never know.


Thangs Says:

With the momentum and kind of luck favours Nole this year, I feel Nole would win the TB.


Kimmi Says:

I also think berdych is the aggressive one. he wins the tie break.

I hope for nole though


carlo Says:

Can’t help but feel sorry for Berdych. He couldn’t execute when he’s had chances.


mat4 Says:

Is Berdych’s nickname Birdman because he has the brain of a bird?

I can’t believe what he is doing…


Kimmi Says:

berdych the old is back..spraying errors now.


carlo Says:

Berdych has gone away.


marrisv Says:

yes, berdych is making the plays ans missing them


Kimmi Says:

what was that..oh dear!


mat4 Says:

Maybe it is not over…


mat4 Says:

Yes it is.

Monumental choke.


marrisv Says:

again another offensive miss


carlo Says:

Poor, poor Berdych. He started so well and ends up toast.

Djokovic matchpoints


Kimmi Says:

wow! ha ha, djokovic da man


racquet Says:

Unbelievable. Berdych won’t sleep easy tonight.


carlo Says:

I’m still stinging about Murray’s loss but well done Djokovic. He got through.


jane Says:

:) Plus, to echo Brando from yesterday, phewwwwwwwwwww!

I was only able to follow scores and read your comments, so thanks for those. Wish I could’ve watched. Sounds like Berd was near his best.

mat4, or Kimmi, how’d Nole’s shoulder look to you?


alison hodge Says:

congrats to nole,very lucky to be honest,a t.berd choke,like rafas game with mardy a really competitive match,but a dissapointing tie break.


jane Says:

Very similar for sure alison. Although at 5-3 was a little worried Berd might comeback.


Brando Says:

LOL jane. I would say the shoulder seems fine, obvious rust. But agree with Alison, lucky here I feel. T-bird, always on time in doing so, just choked. Nole should get through to SF since Murray could be out and if it is tipsy then nole has wnough for him. He probably should be able to deal with ferrer too IMO.


Kimmi Says:

jane: the shoulder looked OK. he had it taped. i didnt think he serve very well though..maybe i was comparing too much with berdych bombs.

seriously, this match was berdych but then tennis is not all about how hard you hit the ball…its more about how strong are you mentally. djokovic was the strongest today.

read murray is injured. too bad. bad timing for this injury. he was really looking forward to play in london.


mat4 Says:

@Jane:

It seems the shoulder was not an issue. But he lacks matches. He missed a lot of routine strokes. He didn’t dare to flatten out his forehand. He played the backhand down the line perhaps just 5 times in the match. His first serve was inexistent at the beginning of the match, than he served quite well in the second set, to have issues in the third. His balls lacked depth.

Berdych had the match on his racquet, but he couldn’t stay patient when he needed to. And he choked when it matters most.


Wog boy Says:

I am glad I had to go to work because of what I heard from you. Thank you all but my heart is not up to it, not anymore. I will watch it this afternoon when I get back home whit nice drink and meze, uhhhhhhh . Stats says that his (Novak’s) serve was prety good, wasn’t it?
Thank you all for posts, but it wasn’t easy even reading them:-)


alison hodge Says:

hi jane nole,roger,rafa all doing it the hard way thats for sure,gutted about muzza,i just hope he will be fit enough to play his next match,one things for sure its turned out to be a very open tourney,no offence but ferrer may even fancy his chances against nole,after the way both played today.


Brando Says:

Novak Djokovic: “Throughout most of the match he was the better player, I was just hanging in there and I managed to get the win. You have to be top of your game in order to win the matches in this event – I wasn’t on top of my game tonight, but I managed to take my chances.” sums it up really. As other posters have mentioned t bird had the match on his racquet, and then…..


mat4 Says:

Wog boy:

If I bring some “loza”, could I taste some of this “meze”? But, when I think of it, a zubrowka would be fine too.


Brando Says:

@ Alison: even though nole is there for the taking I do not think ferrer will be able to pull it off. You need firepower or alot of variety to beat nole- ferrer is consistent but doesn’t possess a big weapon to hurt nole with.


jane Says:

Thanks to everyone for the updates. Glad to hear the shoulder seemed okay, although the serve was up and down. Hopefully, he is better next round.

mat4, since yours was most detailed, what’s your view on Nole’s chances going forward?

agree alison: I read on the other thread that Muzza is deciding whether or not to continue: such a drag. :/


Wog boy Says:

@mat4:

Anytime mat4, i dont’t like to drink by myself…..unless I have to :) My girls don’t drink and they always go for player I dont’t, they took on mum.
Either will do…. advantage zubrowka.
Cheers……


alison hodge Says:

hi brando yeah your probably right,but as we say here in blighty,life is full of surprises lol.


skeezerweezer Says:

This is good stuff. It is good tennis to see the top 4 ( sorry Muzza ) have tough 3 setters to start off. Shows the quality of the field. No playing #1024 in the First round. A better format imho would be 5 setters, more time between matches to rest up, and a few more players. I would like a format where the top 4 would have to play each other once, then move on to a draw format….


mat4 Says:

@Jane:

Really don’t know. He has two days to rest and to practice. He could improve his game. He already played an excellent second set, but lacks consistency.

I have watched Rafa, Fish, Ferrer and Murray. Berdych played better than all of them, serving in the 130 mph range, moving well, crushing forehands. Djoko could make the semi. He needs one win, and Murray could pull out. It will be difficult, but certainly not impossible.

Djoko has won against all odds many time this year, so you can never say with him. Tonight was a fine example.


skeezerweezer Says:

^Scratch the “few more players”…top 4…Play each other once, then the top 2 play in a finals? Help?


Brando Says:

@skeez: completely agree. Every one plays one another in a best of 5, then top 2 play final. Time would be an issue though. If they get the neccessary day rest then it would be a 2 week, maybe 16 day tourny. It would become a grand slam level tourny then. But I do not think that would be a bad thing. We could do with a indoor GS:-)


Ben Pronin Says:

It did seem like rust more than anything. His serve was off in the way a serve can be off. But he wasn’t serving “injured,” ie the pace was there but the placement could have been a lot better.

Berdych choking isn’t surprising, at all. Not only is Djokovic number 1 and all that, but he has a huge lead in their overall h2h. So, in his head type of deal, I’d say. He shouldn’t have the same issue with Murray, injured or not. So I think Berdych should get the second semifinal spot after Djokovic. I think Djokovic will only get better and Ferrer might be the best guy to find your rhythm against.

Fedal tomorrow!!!!


Kimmi Says:

ah the dreaded fedal


dari Says:

AMAZING tweener. Bob bryan, followed by perfect twin chest bump

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_w74_4uarw&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Bring on the fedal, relax kimmi its indoors and Rog could get a second shot at him, if need be!

Ps, is there a conspiracy against rafa?
Burnt fingers at the restaurant and bad salmon at the hotel?!!!


dari Says:

Excuse me, I think the commy said it was mike, easy to mix those two up. i remember i told myself that bob is bigger, b for bigger…


Brando Says:

@Dari:

completely agree re rafa/federer.

Rafa is 0-3 against rog indoor, was EXTREMELY lucky to beat fish, is coming of a 5 week lay off, has some stomach issue- and to top it all off roger has won 2 back to back tourny’s and is on a 11 match winning streak.

Roger is the ABSOLUTE favourite, an easy 60/40 in his favour, IMO.

The only thing in rafa’s favour is the bounce- that shall help. That and surely one day he beats federer, but beyond that its roger all the way.

If the winners is in 2, i think its federer, if 3 sets then maybe it could be rafa.

Either way, rafa needs 1st set in order to have a reasonable chance i feel.


Contemperory Says:

The ATP site has published some qualification scenarios for Group B.

R. NADAL qualifies on Tuesday if either of the following occurs:
- R. NADAL defeats R. FEDERER in 2 sets.
- R. NADAL defeats R. FEDERER and M. FISH defeats J. TSONGA.

R. FEDERER qualifies on Tuesday if either of the following occurs:
- R. FEDERER defeats R. NADAL in 2 sets.
- R. FEDERER defeats R. NADAL and J. TSONGA defeats M. FISH.

We cannot really say at this point on the ultimate winner as just one match is over, and moreover, no one played to their potential in these matches. Djokovic might gain strength in the coming matches , and if that is the case then he might be the man. Exciting matches all the way from now !!


Kimmi Says:

Roger is the ABSOLUTE fav against rafa? hmmm, cant see that way in fedal matches. Anyway, Go Rogi


Kimmi Says:

dari – great shot! they nearly lost this match, great come back. too bad for philip/melzer.


dari Says:

Brando, you yhink ABSOLUTE favorite equals 60/40?!?!
Haha
I would never call anyone absolute fave over rafa, let alonr roger, who has a particular problem with him. But if ever there is a time for fed fans to not freak out, it would be in three setter indoors in November.
Anything can happen, obvs. echo kimmi and just say, Vamos, Roger!


Brando Says:

@Dari:

‘But if ever there is a time for fed fans to not freak out, it would be in three setter indoors in November.’ LOL, isn’t that the truth!

As i said easy 60/40 in feds favour i feel.

But its nice to see that after rafa’s struggles against nole this year, clearly well documented here as elsewhere of course, there are folks out there in the tennis world who still retain a certain awareness of rafa’s ability to still pull through when things are not in his favour.

Let’s hope for a good one. As stated elsewhere, i think after the opening 2 days this tourny could be anyone’s- anyone who seemingly fit to play of course:-)


mat4 Says:

The rebound was very low. The surface looks strange, too, just like it was absorbing the pace. In all the matches, balls usually landed short.

About Fed-Rafa. Anything can happen. Fed seems in fine form, but I wouldn’t rely much on the Nadal-Fish match.


Kimmi Says:

I think it depends on federer BH, if it works well he might have a chance. If the BH is not stable, forget it because rafa will go to this side 90% of the time.

mat4, you think the rebound was low. yesterday i heard the commentators saying its a little higher and some people here saw the kick serve from fish and even federer was kicking pretty well.


skeezerweezer Says:

Kimmi,

You nailed it on Feds BH in this match. Why? That is Rafa’s only strategy against Fed, and it usually works on the higher bouncing surfaces. But Rafa can be broken through as Nole has proven as he really has no plan B with his strokes other. Than the infamous moonballing technique.

I would add his serve(Feds) can dictate also if it is on and it can keep him in the match. IF it is a truly fast surface, Fed should come through…..but heard conflicting remarks on this surface…if the ball is bouncing high…well we all know what Rafa loves.

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