French Open Men’s Final Open Thread: Rafael Nadal v Novak Djokovic
by Staff | June 10th, 2012, 12:31 am
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And we are down to two men left in the 2012 French Open: Rafael Nadal and Novak Djokovic.

2012 Roland Garros marks the 111th edition of the French Championships and the 82nd tournament since the event became international in 1925. It is also the 177th Grand Slam tournament of the Open Era, the first of which was 1968 Roland Garros, making this the 45th French Open.

The champion receives €1,250,000 in prize money, while the runner-up collects €625,000. In total, the men’s singles prize fund for 2012 Roland Garros is €6,555,000, an 8.7% increase on 2011. The winner is also awarded 2000 ATP ranking points, with the runner-up receiving 1200.

Novak Djokovic will retain his world No. 1 ranking whatever the outcome of today’s final. If Rafael Nadal loses today he will drop to No. 3 and Roger Federer will move to No. 2 when the ATP World Tour Rankings are released on Monday 11 June.

This is the 4th consecutive Grand Slam final to feature Novak Djokovic and Rafael Nadal, which is an Open Era record. They set a record at the 2012 Australian Open when they met in the final for the 3rd consecutive time. Nadal is bidding to avoid becoming the first man to lose 4 consecutive Grand Slam finals in the Open Era.

For the 4th Grand Slam tournament in a row, the Top 2 seeds have reached the final. The last time the Top 2 reached the final here was in 2008 when No. 2 Nadal defeated No. 1 Roger Federer.

In Grand Slam Open Era meetings between the No. 1 and No. 2 seeds, the No. 2 seed has a 20-18 win-loss record.

NO. 1 NOVAK DJOKOVIC (SRB) v NO. 2 RAFAEL NADAL (ESP)
Head-to-head: Nadal leads 18-14
Today marks the 15th Djokovic v Nadal tournament final, moving them into joint-5th place for the most meetings in a final in the Open Era. Nadal has a 49-21 win-loss record in finals, Djokovic 30-16. Nadal and Djokovic go head-to-head for the 5th time in a Grand Slam final, putting them in joint-3rd for the most meetings between 2 players in a Grand Slam final.

Nadal ended a 7-match losing streak against Djokovic with victory in the final at Monte Carlo-1000 earlier this year.

Their last Grand Slam meeting in the final at this year’s Australian Open lasted 5 hours 53 minutes and was the longest men’s Grand Slam final on record in terms of duration.

Djokovic is through to his 4th consecutive Grand Slam final and Nadal is through to his 5th straight Grand Slam final. Roger Federer holds the record for the most consecutive Grand Slam final appearances having reached 10 back-to-back finals from 2005 Wimbledon through the 2007 US Open.

Top seed DJOKOVIC is bidding to become the 3rd man in history to complete a non-calendar year Grand Slam. Only Don Budge and Rod Laver have held all 4 titles at the same time.

Budge completed his non-calendar year Grand Slam at 1938 Roland Garros before going on to win the calendar Grand Slam by winning all 4 major tournaments in a single year in 1938. Laver won all 4 majors in 1962 and 1969 – his win at the 1962 US Open completed his set of major titles.

Djokovic is looking to become just the 8th man in history to complete the career Grand Slam. At 25 years 19 days, Djokovic would be the 4th-youngest ever, and the 2nd-youngest man in the Open Era, to do so.

Djokovic is currently on a 27-match Grand Slam winning streak – his longest-ever winning streak at the majors. This puts him in joint-2nd place on the list of longest Grand Slam winning streaks in the Open Era behind Rod Laver’s 29.

Defending champion NADAL is bidding to become the first man in history to win 7 titles here. Chris Evert is the only player – man or woman – to have won 7 titles at Roland Garros.

Nadal is bidding to equal Bjorn Borg and Rod Laver and win his 11th Grand Slam title. In Grand Slam history, 3 players have won more titles – Roger Federer (16), Pete Sampras (14) and Roy Emerson (12).

If Nadal wins today he would become the 3rd-youngest man in history to win 11 Grand Slam titles after Borg and Federer. The Spaniard will be 26 years 7 days old on the final day of the tournament,

Nadal is bidding to avoid becoming the first man in the Open Era to lose 4 consecutive Grand Slam finals. He has lost to Djokovic in his last 3 Grand Slam final appearances.

SUNDAY FRENCH OPEN SCHEDULE
Court Philippe Chatrier 3:00 PM Start Time
Novak Djokovic (SRB)[1] v. Rafael Nadal (ESP)[2]

Court Suzanne Lenglen 11:00 AM Start Time
1. Men’s Legends Over 45
Guy Forget (FRA) v. John McEnroe (USA)
Henri Leconte (FRA) Patrick McEnroe (USA)
2. Men’s Legends Under 45 – 4th Round
Thomas Enqvist (SWE) v. Albert Costa (ESP)
Todd Woodbridge (AUS) Carlos Moya (ESP)

Court 2 11:00 AM Start Time
1. Boys’ Singles – Finals
Filip Peliwo (CAN)[5] v. Kimmer Coppejans (BEL)[6]
2. Girls’ Singles – Finals
Anna Schmiedlova (SVK) v. Annika Beck (GER)[2]

LADBROKES ODDS
Novak Djokovic 11/4 v Rafael Nadal 3/10

WEATHERUNDERGROUND SUNDAY PARIS FORECAST
Mostly cloudy with a chance of rain. High of 64F. Winds from the SSE at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 60%.


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313 Comments for French Open Men’s Final Open Thread: Rafael Nadal v Novak Djokovic

andrea Says:

well rafa, my vote is with you.


jane Says:

Go Filip Peliwo… and Nole. :)

Don’t know much about this young Canadian boy, but he was from Vancouver apparently. Nice to see that he’s in the boys’ final.


Roger Federer Fan Says:

I hope Nole beats the hell out of Rafa and makes us all happy.

I atleast want this final to go for 6-8 hrs. This will take both of them out of equation for the rest of the season and Federer can enjoy a free ride with no competition (as he did during 2004-2007 and in 2009 FO-WIM).

A very looong final is very important for my friend skeezer also. He keeps on warping that this match will go on for hours. I dont want him to end up with egg on his face again.


metan Says:

@ Roger federer fan,

Ms, lucky just told me the winner is RAFA


I AM Says:

DJOKOVIC IN 3 sets, in the first will be hard and then it will be just a walk inte park. Nadal will start to doubt himeld and tehn djokovic will break him.

Nadal has not weapon against Djokovics FH AND BH.


Achilles Says:

Is there still any doubt that Nadal will win this? To the doubters, wake up! Accept it now so that it will hurt less. Hope is good but not for this one.


jamie Says:

According to the psychic Nadal will win.


Achilles Says:

I agree with your psychic, jamie. But for this French Open, one does not even have to be a psychic to see this coming. Still, your psychic is good because he/she predicted this even before the FO started.


Dory Says:

Djokvictory FTW. I will cry with joy and I will throw a party.


Kimmi Says:

hope is a great match. can djokovic?


Daniel Says:

Djoko won 4 of the last 5 and go 5 of the last 6.

Nadal is in the finals of 8 of te last 9 majors since back to RG 10′ winning 4 and losing last 3. They are both in their pock years at the same time. This is what’ makimg their rivalry so exciting and maybe becoming the bigges in tennis ever.


Aravind Says:

Breezy conditions and cool conditions.. Advantage Rafa at the start… Novak is seriously up against it today.. If he has to win, he will not win in 3, could best win in 5 and will find it tough to win in 5. I think he gets a set. Nadal in 4 is the best pick.. Could be Nadal in straights as well..


Daniel Says:

I am hearing Fernando Meligeni (former tennis player Argentine naturilizade Brazilian) saying that he met Nadal when he was 16 in the locker room with Toni. Fernando has jut said that he has won a match and when he was talking with the youn Rafa he was teaching him about tatics in a match, what Fernando did wrong and shod have done. Them Nadal left and Fernando asked Toni: It was you who watch the math and said this to him right

Toni: meet the mental phenomenon of Rafael Nadal! He is extremelly diciplined regarding tatics.

No wonder he became what he is today:)


Kimmi Says:

hmmm! the start is tough already


Mark Says:

@ Jamie:-))))


Aravind Says:

Both players have come to play.. Some incredible shots very early on in the match from both.. Nadal putting immense pressure on Djokovic very early and goes up a break.. Not the start Djokovic would’ve wanted..


Daniel Says:

Well. Ig Djoko won’t be able to hold serve will be hard. At least he saved 3 BP before the break.


Kimmi Says:

conditions are very slow!

rafa with a break…already!


Kimmi Says:

wow! not comfortable. djokovic going for too much.


Aravind Says:

Both players have come to play.. Some incredible shots very early on in the match from both.. Nadal putting immense pressure on Djokovic very early and goes up a break.. Not the start Djokovic would’ve wanted..


Daniel Says:

What happens with Djoko that je forgot that he won all those matches against Nadal playing into hos BACKHAND??? Why is he playin into his forehand nowadays? Seems he doesn’t habe a clear tactic anumore.


Green900 Says:

6-0 6-0 6-0 , first time in history


Kimmi Says:

very tough already. what can djokovic do?


skeezer Says:

Rafa looks stellar today. The Beast looks invincable. Did he sneak into Nole’s Egg machine?

Btw, like the facial hair.


Kimmi Says:

now needs to HOLD!!


Daniel Says:

Nadal missed that a regilar fh insise out to go up 4-0. Now Djoko maybe with a door to enter the match.


Daniel Says:

Nadal broken for the second time in the tourney. Peiple are understimating Djoko way too much


Kimmi Says:

c’mon HOLD!


Kimmi Says:

uncharacteristic error from rafa there to let djokovic hold.


kriket Says:

Comeon Nole, break again!


kriket Says:

3-3 thank you very much Rafa


Daniel Says:

Well, well, well. Must be a mini film in Nadal’s head: Here we go again!


Kimmi Says:

what!! back on serve.


youyong Says:

My gut feeling is Novak is going to win. He should have been out 2 rounds ago but I think it is fate he will be getting the 4 consecutive slams.


skeezer Says:

“Rafa looks stellar today. The Beast looks invincable. Did he sneak into Nole’s Egg machine?”

I take that back. 3-0, 30 love and whhhhhaaaaat?

Back on serve.


Kimmi Says:

nole needs to HOLD here….


Daniel Says:

7 games and 5 breaks o serve!!!!


Kimmi Says:

are these guys too nervous or what?? now djokovic gave away that game.


Daniel Says:

Amazing. Everytime Nadal moonball Djoko missed the next shot. It’s working for Nadal to break the pace


Green900 Says:

Nadal 6 4 6 0 6 0. That’s the score. Djokovic is out……


Daniel Says:

Nadal serving for first set. Let’s see if Djoko can put some pressure and if Nadal will feel any


Daniel Says:

If Djoko has a net game he would be the perfect player. He should have come to the net and finished that point.


youyong Says:

Nadal draws first blood but this is far from over.


Daniel Says:

Djoko should drip more. Nadal is too far behind


Kimmi Says:

noooooooooooooooooooo! going for too much. that is not the way..


Gannu Says:

Boring slugfest…nadal keeps relentlessly moonballing and can do for atleast 10 hrs and 8 sets…Only a miracle can save Djoker….

Give the trophy to that a$$picker


skeezer Says:

Ok. First set was over 1 hour. The pace needs to continue to slow for my 8 hour prediction but I am hopeful. It is breakfast time, I will check back at dinner.

Roger Federer Fan, thank you for your interest, I love eggs. I appreciate your attempt at friendship, but I am not your friend, I am taken. Thank you for all the attention. Please place yur nose in someone elses A$$.


Daniel Says:

Missing too much on backhand. Can’t win without that shot


Daniel Says:

Second break he gives with a DF.


mat4 Says:

The worst is happening. Novak is to tense, loses cheap points. It won’t last long.


Daniel Says:

Nadal showing Djoko how to finish a point when you are in the offense and your opponent far behind


the mind reels Says:

As much as most fans don’t like a straight-sets final, I can’t see Novak winning a set here unless he starts popping his first serve. 50% is simply not going to cut it.


Daniel Says:

Lobbys are the only perfect shot in Djoko’s game today. 2 out of 2:)


mat4 Says:

That’s the difference: on break point, Nadal serves his best, Novak double-faults.


Daniel Says:

Finally a volley!!!!!!


mat4 Says:

A sight on Line Renaud.


Daniel Says:

Djoko lost power durin the point when hitting forehands. Smack the ball!!!


mat4 Says:

I will definitely feel like a Fed fan on the second Sunday of Roland Garros.


the mind reels Says:

Novak doesn’t look like he has the belief today unfortunately. To me, he’s looking a little out of sorts and overmatched.

Two nice points there to get to 30-0.


Daniel Says:

WTF was that?!


Daniel Says:

At least he is coming to the net. But e can’t lose this game after comanding every point


mat4 Says:

Nole fighting spirit is already broken.


boss Says:

what a boring match and tournament…give the trophy to the buttpicker and then get rid of the clay so we don’t have to see this crap in he years to come. tennis’s viewer levels will drop once they start seeing this crappy mud so get RID OF IT


youyong Says:

The match is far from over.


Daniel Says:

Wow, 3 out of 3 lobbys, FH, BH


skeezer Says:

“Nadal 6 4 6 0 6 0. That’s the score. Djokovic is out……”

Where is all the Rafa fanatics?


Daniel Says:

Nadal showing good sportsmanship:)


kriket Says:

You mean Đoker. He gave that point to Nadal even if the judge called for repeat service.


Daniel Says:

Djoko is not hurting with the weeks shots and Nadal is qaiting precisely the time to attack. Nadal is just retrieving aome mid court balld waiting Djoko mistake or weak ball. Seema the slow conditiona are really helping Nadal.


Noogie Says:

I said it before and will say it again. Djoker is a gangster


skeezer Says:

Don’t think Perrier will be sponsoring Nole anytime soon ;)


mat4 Says:

Perrier is overrated. Evian is much better.


Daniel Says:

Nadal is going insde out all the time, Djoko at least could run to that side.

Hope rain saves Djoko


mat4 Says:

Both sets have the same scenario: Rafa broke at 3-3 to make the difference, then shows much more confidence.


Rsutherland Says:

Add “Boss” to Skeeze’s Rafa-Hating-MadMax-Minions.
Once again; ‘boring’ are the same snarky remarks made over and over. Whether in the blatant, ugly (but at least guileless) form presented by Van Orten, Gannu, MadMax (add Boss) et al or in the phony-baloney ‘lets-pretend-to-be-nice-then-sneak-in-the-barbs-here-and-there form’, a la Skeeze (formerly Skeezer ‘just sayin’ Weezer).
To save the manic Fed-Davidians (moniker in memory of David Koresh and his wacko followers) time and trouble, Tennis-x should simply make a space on it’s homepage the following:
1) Nadal’s matches are boring
2) Nadal takes too much time
3) Nadal’s style makes him injury-prone yet makes false excuses regarding injury (my personal favorite)
4) Nadal’s play is not as pretty as Federer’s
5) Nadal picks his butt
6) Nadal is only good on clay
yada yada zzzzz


skeezer Says:

Mat4

Me thinks Nole is happy with the delay. He seemed to not like the conditions. You need to go talk to Nole. They allow coaching when the go off the court.


Mark Says:

Runt djokobitch breaking furniture. Jeeeez


Mark Says:

@ Noogie. Yes big time gangster!!


Mark Says:

The gangster should definitely get a warning and a fine.


skeezer Says:

Rsutherland

Thats a pretty good list, although incomplete. Don’ let us all get to you, your man wil most likely win, and go down as the best ever on Clay.


mat4 Says:

Off topics. Today I had an interesting conversation with a tennis coach, and we spoke about doping, among other subjects. He said that a former slam champion had to retire because he was caught. He said his name too. I was quite surprised, and I don’t know if I should believe it.


skeezer Says:

Does delays count as match time? I am lookng for my prediction goal of 8 hours. Lunchtime :)


mat4 Says:

skeezer:

Come on, I am more depressed than he is. He should come and talk to me.


Wog boy Says:

Nole broke Rafa three times and that is not enough because his servis and CC BH are failing him big time.


Sean Randall Says:

Sloppy slop. No where near an epic match thus far. Rain helping Novak but he just can’t get on top of Rafa.

Novak’s playing too patchy. Nadal’s not playing great either, but doing enough.


mat4 Says:

WB:

Yes, he serves like s…t. But he has to think also about the sponsors, and the ATP, and the fate of tennis in general: it would be quite boring if he wins it all, would it?


C!P! Says:

still maintaining my friday’s prediction ,that Djoko won’t get more than 10 games this match


Daniel Says:

Mat4, who Moya? Of the latest Grand Slam champions he was the last to retire


Daniel Says:

Agree with Wog Boy. Even Djoko not playing great he broke 3 times already, his main problem is defending his service games, and serving 50% won’t help


Wog boy Says:

mat4,

Good way to avoid pain of watching our man not playing his best, not believing in his shots.
There is few of you whose opinion I respect and there is question for you, why on the earth he is not using BH DL more often?


mat4 Says:

skeezer:

remind me, next time Nole wins against Rafa, to make fun or rafans. They get roïds rage from time to time. I think I will apologize to Dave.


Piet Says:

Well back to the usual. Nadal in 3. You have to beat him in the warm up tournaments. Rafa feeds confidence of those like a volture. Good for Rafa though. A loss here would mean an all time low point for him. Now he will carry this confidence all the way to the USO


mat4 Says:

Daniel:

No. Moya, could have understood, but not the guy he mentioned. I was shocked.


Achilles Says:

Nadal, being the greatest tennis player on clay right now (maybe later, the greatest ever: period), deserves to have the most French Open titles so that nobody would even argue for another player. Federer fans must be getting quite anxious because once Nadal ties Federer with the most number of majors, people would stop arguing as to who is better. It will happen.


skeezer Says:

Achilles,

Anxious? No, not really. Fed holds the all time slam count. No one else does. It feels pretty relaxing up here.


mat4 Says:

WB:

Skeezer is someone more knowledgeable than me, he could answer you. I think that Nole needs a bit higher rebound to hammer that BH, and he is slow on his feet so he is usually not in a good position to take the ball when he has to.


Wheeler Says:

What a disappointing match. There’s no competition. Nadal is playing great and Djoker too error-prone. Both should be playing well, only then we get a great match.


madmax Says:

Rsutherland Says:
Add “Boss” to Skeeze’s Rafa-Hating-MadMax-Minions.

Rsutherland, we don’t all have to support nadal, and I for one, don’t. If you want to comment like a man, then at least read the acknowledgements about him from me; if I find him boring, that’s my opinion, but seriously, you are more boring than he, and I didn’t think that was possible. I am not a rafa hater at all. He just bores me. If he wins here, (most likely), I am happy to congratulate you RS, though you don’t deserve to, because your support really is not support, but fed bashing. But I am going to be a bigger person than you, and I do it for kimberley mostly.

And this is a boring match. Boring. Boring. Boring.

Hope the rain saves Novak and makes the match a classic, which is what it was built up to be.


metan Says:

@ mark,

Please don’t use nasty word, otherwise our guy will get attack n condemnation,


Wog boy Says:

There is new perrier sign, BTW how he was suppose to know that it was some dodgy material easy to brake:)


madmax Says:

mat4, you can’t say things like that and not substantiate a claim. He said, she said, just rumour. That’s naughty! :)


mat4 Says:

Although Rafa has a great advantage, the match still isn’t over. This break could change a lot of things. It happened earlier, it could happen now.

About Rafa equalling Fed records: I dream a lot, somebody calls me Maurice, but this is beyond dreams.

Anyway, if his knees require an operation soon, and he can’t come back, you should guess what really happen.


mat4 Says:

WB:

Yes, it is just a rumour. I claim it is just a rumour. Can I make that claim?


courbon Says:

Hi Wog Boy, I’m asking the same questions:Why not BH DL???I don’t get it.And first serve is awful……I’ll come of blog for hour or two, too many fanatics and rude people posting at the moment here…


madmax Says:

Achilles Says:
Nadal, being the greatest tennis player on clay right now (maybe later, the greatest ever: period), deserves to have the most French Open titles so that nobody would even argue for another player. Federer fans must be getting quite anxious because once Nadal ties Federer with the most number of majors, people would stop arguing as to who is better. It will happen.

June 10th, 2012 at 11:33 am

Achilles,

seriously. I hope that Rafa does break the slam record. Go for it Rafa! He will be the greatest tennis player then of all time; good luck to him; he will be the greatest player of all time – on clay- because then what will happen is that pundits will look at his slam count, compare them to Roger’s (like they do with the others), and say, ‘yeah’ but over 70% of his slams have come on clay, so how can he be the greatest, and I very much look forward to that argument. Because it is a valid one.

Then, the spotlight will be on him, and him alone, as for Roger, he will be retired by then, enjoying his life, and I can watch the dvd’s of all his matches and his slams, especially, the spirit of a champion; marvel at his shots, like no other, not even the “greatest of all time in waiting”, because he doesn’t even come close in my eyes.

Then, of course, someone else will come along, (hopefully Murray), and win the calendar slam, twice over, over take rafa, win 20 slams, and we can all marvel at Murray the come back kid.

I look forward to it and hope that you will still be here too so we can share the memories.


mat4 Says:

It’s over.


Daniel Says:

Can’t believe it will be straight set. J,, Nadal really can win 10 RG. How insane it will be?!


Wog boy Says:

Hi courbon,

Doesn’t look, does it;(


Wog boy Says:

“doesn’t look good”


Roger Federer Fan Says:

Oh shit….what a horrible match !!
Please God…..please this guy’s knees….we dont want to see him again.
This guy picks his a$$ and causes a lot of pain in fed fans’ a$$.

And this match is nowhere near the long slug fest (even including the rain delays) which we were hoping for.

Skeeze, i am with you during this time of grief.


Daniel Says:

UnGIc$&&6&nbelievable


Kimmi Says:

djokovic is just very bad..rafa is not playing anything special, he just needs to put the ball on court.


Daniel Says:

That point broke Djoko sporit. He will lose hos next service game.


madmax Says:

Alexandra Willis ‏@alex_willis
I just stirred my tea with a biro.

Rsutherland, talk about boring! This is one of the reporters on twitter! What she said about the match!

A professional.

Come on, let’s get a match going on, shall we?


Daniel Says:

Finally coming to the net!


Daniel Says:

Hopre he holda easy to at leat give us some sense of suspense. He should have broken the first game Nadal served if he have entered the court. But this conditions are really slow and allowing Nadal to get to everyball and Djoko’s shot are not penetrating. It’s hard for both of them to hit an oit of
Nowehere winner from the baseline


Piet Says:

You can see in thah 3rd game why Novak can beat Rafa on clsy. It will not happen today though. His serve is way off and he’s too patchy / inconsistent today. Wait for a straight rebreak here….


Wog boy Says:

No bagels:)

To break Nadal four times and probably not to win a set, that says everything about Nole’s game today.


Daniel Says:

Djoko was broken more times than he confirmed serve today.


Daniel Says:

This last shot show how Djoko is afraid to come forward. And Nadal is returning everything ip and deep


Daniel Says:

This was good hold for Djoko. All sets Nadal broke first and Djoko was able to level in the first games. Let’s see if he can break again to be up a break, something didn’t happend today and how Nadal would react


youyong Says:

Match isn’t over I say.


Daniel Says:

Nadal brave to deop shot BP down


youyong Says:

Still feel Nole is going to steal this one.


Daniel Says:

Suddenly Djoko changed tactics and is hitting deep in the midle pusjin Nadal back and denying angle. Nadal missed a few forehands in this situation. Let’s see if Djoko can keep it up. He needs to start serving above 60% per game from now onwards to have a shot


Daniel Says:

Nadal for the first time this tourney is behind a break in a set, under pressure


Green900 Says:

Nadal 6 4 6 3 6 4. Djokovic serve is off. Game is too patchy.


kriket Says:

Djoko always on the offense, Nadal on the defense, and it almost always ends with Djokos UE or rarely a winner


Kimmi Says:

keeps changing you score as time goes gree900, keep it up :)


Green900 Says:

Djokovic is such a better player. He is playing so poor, that’s why he’ll lose in straight sets.


mat4 Says:

At least, the French crowd cheers the right guy. Why is Rafa hated so much?


kriket Says:

5-2 Djoko, nice job


youyong Says:

This is going to the 5th set I feel. The tennis gods are on Djokovic’s side.


courbon Says:

@wog Boy,Mat 4,Skeezer
You think Nole is coming back?


Daniel Says:

Wow, Djoko will serve for a Moral Bagel down 0-2 and winning 5 games in a row. Amazing, on the brink of defeat, played relaxed and it’s payinh of


Kimmi Says:

federer has been 5-2 before and loses the set..hope it doesnt happen to djokovic


Roger Federer Fan Says:

Wow…we have a match in our hands now.
Skeeze come back from ur hole.


Daniel Says:

It’s not that the French hate Rafa, they are just sick of him winning there all the time.


Dory Says:

O MY GAWD!!!! He’s taken the 3rd set!!!! I thought it was over!!!!


mat4 Says:

Honor is safe! No three setter, no bagel… Now, it is all bonus.


jane Says:

Okay, I am so happy Nole got a set, and continued to fight. Good job Nole! :)


Daniel Says:

Yeahh, Nadal losing a set in RG!!!!

Amazing effort from Djoko to not fade away even not playing hos full potential. Now he got a strin of excelent games, boost in confidance whih makes him even start seving aces.

Nadal is second guessing bit will resume to his old self in a brink.


Kimmi Says:

phew!! excellent!

Djokovic loves comebacks, is he waking up? lets hope we are going to have a match


mat4 Says:

I think that Rafa now will take more than a minute between two serves.


Daniel Says:

This Nadal first game is crucial for Djoko. He qin tha last 6 and he needs to keep the pressure on


Daniel Says:

Wow, Djoko won the mental battle in this point


youyong Says:

Match over. The title will be Nole’s.


kriket Says:

last 7 games 7-0 Đković ;)


Daniel Says:

Wow, wow, wow. Djoko is outNadaling Nadal!!! 7 games in a row in Chatrier


youyong Says:

Unless there is a serious momentum change again, I don’t see Rafa winning this.


Sean Randall Says:

Ted Robinson said it, “seed planted”. Mental edge to Djokovic having won 3 straight Slam finals against Nadal.

Still a very long road back for Novak. Guy is charmed, though.


youyong Says:

When Novak survived those 2 matches against Seppi and Tsonga, I knew he was going to win this one. He is charmed indeed.


Daniel Says:

Awesome. That’s why he is number 1, got that 7 in a row over Nadal and is beating Fed regularly in Slams. Founf his range and the backhand DTL is clicking.


youyong Says:

Those close matches gave him the belief that he can still win no matter what. Nadal was never really tested.


mat4 Says:

It is not over yet. Don’t forget who Rafa Nadal is.


fat lady singing Says:

gotta wonder how devastating this will be for Rafa

probably the worst defeat of his career

might derail him for a long time to come


Daniel Says:

Nadal wining a game an can relax a bit. Novak will have to hold and try to break again (insurance break:).


Daniel Says:

Sh$&t. This will break Djoko momentum. Last time rain came Djoko lost when serving to stay alive in the second set. Hope he doesn’t get broken when they resume.


Kimmi Says:

and why did they start this match at 3 pm?


Kimmi Says:

rafa is mad..they should have stopped it sooner he says.

djokovic is calm down now. playing match better, not going for too much


senthil Says:

Where is @Brando ???

One Set thats all Djoker needs to turn the match.


Brando Says:

THANK GOD for the rain- rafa needed that timeout. Regroup and go again!


mat4 Says:

Hope that Nole will win this set. This break could be devastating for him. Anyway, he’s played a set at his A level, where Rafa was completely helpless.


youyong Says:

Rafa can only win this, if he can find a way to frustrate Nole. At this point, it is all mental now. Nole is dangerous when he plays freely and has no fear of losing and that is what happened at that turning point in the beginning of the 3rd set. He was down 2 sets and a break, and didn’t overthink his play and let Nadal make the mistakes. That gave him more confidence and will be the key factor in him winning. It was like the 5th set of the AO final, Nadal HAD Nole but he played freely and made that ridiculously amazing return to turns things round completely. It is going to happen again. It is happening again. The key improvement to his success is his belief and that was Nadal’s strength… Nole is winning the mental arm-wrestling match.


WTF Says:

Djokovic with a break in the 4th set? I think he wins in 5.


youyong Says:

I am rooting for Rafa btw, and hope he can figure this out and not let Nole get to him mentally.


Wog boy Says:

jane,

Yes, he has got the set and he is fighting like a lion. If he has to go down than he should do that like a man and I will be more than happy regardless of result. It is a long way back but I feel much better now because this is my man, this is Novak we all know. Win or lose doesn’t matter, do it like a man. Rafa is not happy with condifions, well bad luck.

Where was this game in first two sets, I cannot watch It any more from veranda it is too cold outside, I will catch a cold:)


Kimmi Says:

djokovic need to be in the brink of losing to turn it around…I know he is done it a lot but it is a dangerous game to play against rafa. needs to hold his serve from here on in this set.


Dory Says:

Nadal unleashed the monster in Djokovic after 2 sets to 0 up. He started playing without fear. Djokomonster spares no one when he’s out loose.


carlo Says:

Rain delay. Why did Uncle Toni have his boxers in a bunch?

Just got in from my ride. Thought this would be over in 3. wow Nole got a set!


WTF Says:

Nadal has never gone 5 sets at the French Open before. If he does it will be unfamiliar territory for him, and maybe the AO final will enter his mind…

It’s gotta be a rattling experience.


Dory Says:

Worst thing to happen would be match 5th set postponed to tomorrow. I want the match to be over today. I am SO ANGRY that these bloody FO organizers have such a poor schedule. They don’t have a roof, they know weather forecast is bad, they know both players play slow, just last Slam final was longest ever, they know they don’t even have lights to allow night play like other slams and yet they start the match late. FO sucks.


Dory Says:

WTF you are wrong again. Isner took Nadal to five sets at the FO last year in the 1st round match.


WTF Says:

Dory Says:

“WTF you are wrong again. Isner took Nadal to five sets at the FO last year in the 1st round match.”

My bad. I stand corrected. One five setter ever, against a guy who’s not known for clay. If you let Djokovic take you to five, you’re going to be a lot less confident about winning it.

Dory Says:

“Worst thing to happen would be match 5th set postponed to tomorrow. I want the match to be over today. I am SO ANGRY that these bloody FO organizers have such a poor schedule. They don’t have a roof, they know weather forecast is bad, they know both players play slow, just last Slam final was longest ever, they know they don’t even have lights to allow night play like other slams and yet they start the match late. FO sucks.”

Just wondering… have you ever watched the US Open? There it actually rains regularly, and they have no roof either. The last two US Opens, men’s final was played on Monday.


Piet Says:

Well that rain delay will really help Rafa. Novak was on a rampage. Still think Rafa will win on 4 or 5. He just needs to. A loss here, in his house, from that position. Ouch,


mat4 Says:

I don’t understand such optimism suddenly. Rafa still leads 2-1 in sets. This pause could break Novak’s momentum. If they stopped at least at 2-0, it could have been different.

But, who knows? Maybe Nole will have more confidence and continue playing his shots freely.


tennisfansince76 Says:

even if Nadal goes on to wn this i will be happy because i have seen what i wanted to see, someone punch nadal in the face on court Chartrier. i love seeing his stupid moonballs carved up like a thanksgving turkey as they should be.


Wog boy Says:

Gods are not with Nole now, he didn’t need this rain delay.
When they come back they are going to play with new balls, methinks, that suits Rafa.


tennisfansince76 Says:

oh and a big shout out to mother nature: You Suck!


jane Says:

The website says “rain delay until 8:00 pm”. That’s late to get started again. I think this match will be carried over until tomorrow. Too bad, as I think Nole had some momentum there. In any case, nothing we can do about weather.

About the scheduling, however….grrrr. They should have started this match at 1:00!!!


Dory Says:

WTF Yes US Open sucks as well. :D With the money they collect, the roof is way overdue. :)


tennisfansince76 Says:

@Daniel. the problem is his reign has been a reign of boredom over Roland Garros like a wet blanket. maybe if there were more classic matches sprinkled throughout his run the French would like him better, and myself as well.


carlo Says:

Was just hearing on RRG that Uncle Toni was hopping angry they didn’t stop the match earlier in the drizzle. When the ball gets too wet it nullifies Nadal spin too much, apparently. Rain delay will probably help Nadal


mat4 Says:

TFS76:

Great to see you here too. I loved your comment, BTW.

jane:

Don’t forget that the shift of momentum started after the first rain delay. It is clear that this match, especially if Nole wins the 4th set, is not going to be like others.


Wog boy Says:

mat4,

It is not optimisam itself, it is just that I want to see him playing his game at his best if he has to go down and he wasn’t doing that in first two sets and yet he broke Nadal 3-4 times. Can you imagine if he had his A game…..


tennisfansince76 Says:

@Mat4 thanks. i enjoy your commenting on this site as well


mat4 Says:

It’s still raining in Paris. The court is covered. They’ll recheck the conditions at 8.

Anyway, Rafa looked very disturbed before the delay, and very angry at the end of the third set. Well, to play 1h15 on the Chatrier and not win a game… he’s not used to it.


carlo Says:

But if Rafa and Uncle Toni are so mad….

Ajde Nole!! I’m thinking Delpo over Federer 2009. Differenent surface but 2 sets down, it’s possible!


skeezer Says:

Mat4

Looks like you did talk to Nole at that rain break. Good job!!
:)


Wog boy Says:

carlo,

Are you carlo or conty:)


mat4 Says:

She’s Carlo when she’s depressed. But if Nole wins the fourth, she will be Conty again.


El Flaco Says:

In big slam matches Djokovic gets dangerous when his back is against the wall. Somehow his mind enters a peaceful state and he has no fear. I still think Rafa will win this in 4 or 5 sets.


Dory Says:

Well one good thing at least is that it’s not the end of the set 4 so both players will get some time to get settled and turn “hot” like Djokovic did after the earlier delay.


Wog boy Says:

Ok carlo, in that case stay carlo, please.


Kimberly Says:

Hey guys at my in laws house will this match finish today?


conty Says:

Well, sorry off topic. Huge Kudos to Slovak, Peter Sagan, beating the Fabulous Cancellara, winning prologue time trial, Tour de Suisse!!

Congrats to Rui Costa young rider from Portugal beating a field of world class climbers up Verbier, in Tour de Suisse this morning! Race lead now.

And to Brit, Bradley Wiggins, beating Cadel Evans to win lead up race to TDF, Criterium du Dauphine! Clever tactical riding by Wiggo, my pick to win TDF 2012!

hahaaha I didn’t even notice carlo came out! haha…not depressed at all though, there’s some hope!


Dory Says:

Given the time they both take between points, I don’t think match will finish today if it goes to 5th set. If it’s over in 4th set (god forbid no) then it might end today.


Wog boy Says:

I don’t know what is the latest they can play in Paris but if they are going to star at 8pm I doubt the are going to finsh. mat4 you are familiar with Paris, what is the latest they can play?


A. Salazar Says:

what was the score at the stop because of rain. And at what time will they continue tomorrow.


mat4 Says:

In France the sun sets after 21h even in the Alps. So they could play for an hour at least. But with the clouds, it could be very dark, and it would be an advantage for Rafa, who doesn’t rely on his return so much and doesn’t play so close to the lines.


carlo Says:

Actually mat4, I think you are right. Came in from my ride, turned on DVR, expect Rolland Garros to be over with the same usual result. So probably was subconsciously the depressed Carlo. Okay will stay carlo unless Nole wins ;) better luck remaining serious and pessimistic until the fat lady has sung.


mat4 Says:

BTW, Daniel and Courbon are on site, so they should know better.


Kimberly Says:

Ha, carlo, I am pessimistic too. Nadal opened the door and Djokovoc stepped in.


Wog boy Says:

Do you remember which match finished the latest in last two weeks?


skeezer Says:

Play done for today. 4am start time tomorrow


Kimberly Says:

?????


jane Says:

Wog Boy, I think Nole/Devilder ended around 9:30 pm, maybe even after.


Adam Says:

you mean pm right?


skeezer Says:

4am Eastern


carlo Says:

Aw, Kimberly. Your man will win but…would it be so horrible if a different outcome? You got Sharapova, you got the Heat, you got your Rafa boys backing you…er maybe not Kaiser ;)


Adam Says:

oh gotcha


jane Says:

I wish they had started earlier. A slam final – for history – halted wham bam right when momentum was shifting.


Daniel Says:

I left Paris alteady but they can play until 9:30 pm easy.


Sean Randall Says:

NBC just reported play is finished today. Match will resume Monday 7am ET, 1pm local.

What a strange match, too bad we didn’t see it through tonight.


skeezer Says:

Sorry guys I posted that start time in a hurry. Need someone to confirm that. Play is finished today though….


skeezer Says:

4am PST


Kimmi Says:

optimistic that djokovic will not start as bad as today when they come back tomorrow.


Kimberly Says:

Kaiser thinks nadal will win but hoping for a different outcome


carlo Says:

‘Today Show’ will trump FO Final in my time zone, no doubt as to NBC affiliate programming. #$%^


Kimberly Says:

I heard its going to rain tomorrow too.


carlo Says:

On the same page as Kaiser, per usual.


jane Says:

Well, Nole took a set off Rafa at RG, and he never had done so before. He is up a break. I guess he has a really outside chance of levelling this match if he can come back serving much better. If it goes to a 5th, then who knows?!! I hope it does obviously. But I have to say again how proud I am of Nole as for a bit there it looked like this would be over in 3. But Nole hung on, fought back, and ran away with that 3rd set.


skeezer Says:

So lets see, match started at approx 9am EST, and match will still be going on tomorrow, skeezers 8 hour long match prediction still holds up….shhhaammmon!


Wog boy Says:

jane,

I wonder if it was raining really badly or Uncle Tony talked them into it. Don Corleone doesn’t waist time!
Kimmi I hope so too. That is all we can do, to hope.


carlo Says:

LOL skeezer, if you win the time prediction!


Dave Says:

Nadal got thrown a lifeline, just like Djokovic had one rain delay earlier. Currenty Djokovic-Nadal score is 6-4, 6-3, 2-6, 1-2, match postponed till tomorrow. It’s forecasted to rain through the night and there is a chance of thundershowers tomorrow afternoon.

Djokovic-Nadal 2012 final
Total points won: 50% (97/194) 50% (97/194)
Breakpoints converted: 70% (7/10) 47 % (7/15)
Time: 179 minutes
http://www.rolandgarros.com/en_FR/scores/stats/day20/1701ms.html

Federer must be wondering where all this wet weather and rain delays were when he battled Nadal at the French Open finals. Once the court becomes so damp, Nadal’s topspin becomes less effective. In retrospect, Federer’s past matches against Nadal in warmer, higher bouncing conditions were mostly a pretty good effort. Had it been this wet at last year’s final, Federer would have had a better chance to win. Considering how fast Federer plays, these match times would be 30 to 40 minutes longer if Djokovic played.

2011 final: 7-5, 7-6(3), 5-7, 6-1
47% (130/273) 52% (143/273) — early in fourth set, Federer and Nadal each won 50% of total points.
33% (5/15) 46% (7/15)
220 minutes

2007 final: 6-3, 4-6, 6-3, 6-4
46% (119/255) 53% (136/255)
5% (1/17) 40% (4/10)
190 minutes

2006 final: 1-6, 6-1, 6-4, 7-6(4)
47% (109/230) 52% (121/230)
30% (3/10) 33% (4/12)
182 minutes


Dory Says:

It’s official. On the website now: “The conclusion of the men’s final between Rafael Nadal and Novak Djokovic has been postponed until Monday, 1pm local time.”


Dory Says:

I can sleep slightly easy thinking that Nole is up a break in the 4th set.


jane Says:

Interesting – they stop at having won EXACTLY the same number of points! Whoa, what are the odds?


kriket Says:

What I saw from Novak makes me peaceful regardless of the final outcome.

Novak is always on the offence, and the only opponent he really has is himself. He needs to cut down on those UEs, when he’s about to finish the point. So, he still has the game, he’s still in Rafa’s head, he just wasn’t focused enough to pull the trigger. Too many would be winners ended in the net, or out.

Hope he doesn’t take his time to enter the match tomorrow, as he did in every match so far. He has to play top notch from the very beginning. Will he be able to do so, I guess we shall see.

Rafa is not unbeatable, that is the finala conclusion, it just takes a little more focus and a bit of luck for Novak, and he is done.


skeezer Says:

Are u guys all sure about the conditions helpin Novak if it is damp? Novak imho is one of the few that can handle Rafa’s FH. Me thinks it is the other way around. If the conditions are dry and hot, I see Novak being able to hit more penetrating shots. As long as the conditions stay like this, it favors Nadal imo. Slower, muddier the better.

Regardless, good to see Novak getting his teeth into this match. Rafa predictors of a blowout have egg on there face(take note RFF).


skeezer Says:

Ahhhh….Tennis channel now showing Fed vs Birdsh!t at Madrid. Pleasing to the eyes…..


Kimberly Says:

If nadal comes back and plays his game he can close it out in 4. It’s not like he has to break raonic. But easier said than done


Wog boy Says:

If only Nole can carry his confidence from third set in to monday there is a chance but Rafa is still favorite to win it.
It is up to their teams to get them ready menthaly for tomorrow. As much as i respect Nole’s father I hope he is going to leave him alone, with his team until tomorrow. Sorry Srdjan I have great respect for you and Dijana but I can be contraproductive.
See you tomorrow, off to bed zzzzzzzzz


Wog boy Says:

it shoul say ” but IT can be”


carlo Says:

Intersting numbers, Dave.

Federer actually got the closest in 2006, which makes sense. But Federer never got to a 5th. If Nole could somehow take this to a 5th, it stays on serve, 5th could go on and on. Not was I see happening but, it’s possible.

Ajde Nole!


iam noor Says:

UUU! GOING TO WIN DJOKOVIC IAM A BIG FAN OF U
FROM MY SIDE BEESSTT OFF LLLUCKKK!!!
NADAL U GONNA LOSE TODAY…


Kimberly Says:

Dave did you leave out 2008 intentionally?


carlo Says:

From what I heard on Radio Rolland Garros, and they are always a step ahead of TV broadcasts, streams, and that slow scoretracker, the wet balls helped Djokovic, when they got wet enough, because someone said if they get too wet, the spin is cancelled out.


carlo Says:

I’m sure; was there a 2008 RG? seem to have blanked that one out! :D


conty Says:

Sweet dreams Wog boy. And you are probably right about Nole’s parents. Team Nole knows what to do.

I’m out again too. And won’t be able to watch. cheering for Nole all the way!


Kimberly Says:

Any nadal supporters here other than me? Vegas still picking him to win!


Dory Says:

kriket, I love you for the nice things you said about Nole.


andrea Says:

i still believe nadal will win this. another day of rest and he’ll wrap it up.


skeezer Says:

Dave,

Interesting you mentioned Feds hip. Here I am re-watching his match with Birdsh!t and at 2-5, love 15 Fed slid and got caught awkwardly and then held his hip never saw that before but confirms he injured it then.

Ironically, right after the camera pans over to Santana, the tourney director…hehe.


Mark Says:

@ Kimberly. VAMOS RAFAA. Rafa will finish the job tomorrow and win his 7th French Open


Eric Says:

I’m still supporting Rafa! He’s definitely going to win…


Kimberly Says:

I’m going to inform you right now that if nadal pulls this off I will be a very gracious winner. If he does not I will come on congratulate the djokovic fans, make a dig at nole somehow, and disappear for an unspecified period of time.

I already have my hands full with Westbrook, Durant, I-Block-a, harden and crew. Sean do you still feel the heat overmatch the thunder? Vegas is calling the thunder in 6.


Kimberly Says:

Thank you mark and Eric, need positive posts for rafa here too


Tennisfan Says:

Djok is a disgrace to the sport with his temper tantrums … can’t stand this dweeb .. dispicable. After having watch class play the game the last few years… tennis has entered the dark ages for now… lets just hope it doesnt last too long.


Mark Says:

The rain, I think, was a very timely intervention. All the momentum was with djoker. Rafa hopefully will come out firing tomorrow and finish the match in 4. VAMOS RAFAA!!


Swiss Maestro Says:

one big choke-athon from novak so far. he should have won this in straight sets if he played this without the fear of losing.

he plays his fearless game only when he is down 3-0 in the 1st set or down 2 sets to love. the moment he pulls level, he tightens up and plays defensive.

rafa @ his prime would have put novak out of his misery, but rafa’s best is behind him. he seems unable to be nerveless like he was in 2010, 05-08.

novak has messed up rafa’s nerves big time in the last 18 months. from potential GOAThood to having his own legacy being usurped by novak, rafa is headed down a real treacherous path.

nole slam and federer’s return to 2nd ranking look more realistic than they did yesterday. yet, i am with rafa fans and i hope rafa can turn the clock and find the 2010 form that won him the USopen over novak.

vamos rafa! you are too gracious a guy to have your legacy usurped by novak!


jane Says:

Here’s a summary of things so far. They concur that this delay helps Rafa as Nole had momentum:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/rain-causing-rafael-nadal-meltdown-suspended-french-open-183100173–ten.html


mat4 Says:

Djokovic’s father complained about on court coaching by Toni Nadal.


Nina Says:

Lol Kimberly. It’s hard being a gracious fan when your rival might deny your favorite a piece of history. It’s a very tricky situation this one. I would have preferred this to be over with today instead of having to wait until tomorrow to know the score from work. I don’t think it will be pretty. When matches resume tend to be one-sided and anti-climatic. I’m so fed up with the organizers. RG is my least favorite slam, and if Nole didn’t have so much on his plate, I wouldn’t lose my sleep over this. But what he can achieve tomorrow is too big to ignore. I hope I won’t keep wondering what would have happened if they had been able to finish the match today. I hope I don’t have to do it. I have faith in my boy, go Nole!


Swiss Maestro Says:

i know this is not the right time, but this brings back memories of the 2008 wimbledon final, as a federer fan. back then, rafa was the younger, more ambitious foe and he achieved something that was not achieved in 28 years by achieving the channel slam dethroning a legend on his home turf.

now, rafa is being chased by nole in pursuit of a 43 year old record! life does move in circles!

i like rafa more than djokovic and want him to win this, but there is no denying that a nole slam will be HUGE for the sport!


skeezer Says:

Mark,

You really think Rafa needs a rain delay to beat Novak? Was he really on the verge of losing his Clay court dominance?


Brando Says:

@mark: I AGREE. Ithink the rain delay DEfINATELY helps rafa- he’s the one who needed it. But wow- djokovic is a scary player. IMO, he won the 8 games in a row since had zero to lose. Now he’s in the match, so it could be like set 1 all over again. In set 1 and 2 rafa wasn’t spectacular- whilst novak was very nervous. Good thing rafa is novak’s serve is VERY penetrable. Probably edge novak still.


mat4 Says:

Skeezer:

What dominance? He didn’t win a game for more than a hour. When he can’t rely on UE of the opponent, what else has he left?


Swiss Maestro Says:

Jane, stop being a silly goosy :) nole got all the help he needed with the “wettest” final weekend in ages – when was the french open final last moved to a monday? definitely not in the last 10 years! let rafa get his slice of luck.

for the 1st time, rafa looks like he needs help on his own surface. time can be such a cruel thing. it turns emperors into paupers.

i was just coming to terms with federer being overtaken by time and now even rafa on clay! i will be praying hard tonight for rafa. i would love to see him break borg’s record.


Brando Says:

@swiss maestro: SPOT ON. Before I though if it gets tight rafa would blink first due to the 0-7 BUT set 1 and 2 really showed the novak slam is makig novak nervous.


mat4 Says:

I have to admit I like this delay until tomorrow: I can make fun of rafans’ anxiety for a few hours more.


skeezer Says:

Mat4

Meant his whole Clay career. He has bulled his way through 6 FO’s and needs a rain delay? Not much confidence in who you are I say.

I think Novak saw the worse, and hopefully will come out firing. Mat4 u know Nole sometimes starts slow , finishes strong. He needs to come out firing, he can’t afford to work his way into the match now, no?


Swiss Maestro Says:

assuming nole gets nole slam.

within how many slams of rafa does he need to come to be considered ahead of rafa in the GOAT list?

repeat same question for novak and federer.


Kimberly Says:

Rafa to win set 4 in a tiebreak. I can’t let the Djokovoc fans have all the fun


mat4 Says:

And it will rain tomorrow too. So no spin, to high bounce… It all depends now of Novak: if he serves well, no doubt he shall win. Just to be his usual self.


jane Says:

“It’s the first time the French Open won’t end on Sunday since 1973, when Ilie Nastase beat Nikki Pilic. That men’s final ended on Tuesday.”

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2012/06/10/french-open-final-suspended-until-monday/#ixzz1xQGzI8cY


mat4 Says:

Kimberly:

To quote Delboy from OFAH: “It is not a mere poker. It’s a duel.” :-)


Swiss Maestro Says:

brando , before the match started, i was positive rafa turned the corner regarding 7-0, but when he gave up the double break, i knew rafa’s demons have not been fully exorcised.

federer recently remarked that the 2008 wimbledon final was too soon after FO 2008 for him to recover and believe in himself against rafa. maybe this is too soon after the AO for rafa. he might have prefered to have won a GS in between before facing novak again.

all said, rafa still is the one with 2sets to 1 lead and this break only helps him more than novak, whose demons might do crazy numbers on him tonight! vamos rafa for the 7th FO!


skeezer Says:

Kimberly,

Well if Rafa wins I won’t like it, but will be happy for you and will congratulate him. 7 FO’s is an all time record and should be recognized.


Kimberly Says:

Or nadal can now win 5 games in a row. 6-2? Why not? He’s certainly good enough.


Swiss Maestro Says:

kimberly, i feel like you do. rafa in a 4th set tie-break, though i would prefer he do it easier than that! i never knew supporting rafa in clay could put me the wringer like fed’s been doing these past few years!


mat4 Says:

@Swiss maestro:

Mats Wilander already answered this question: if Nole wins it, he would be considered second best in the open era, behind Roger Federer.


courbon Says:

It’s misserable rain here in Gascony also…by the way:Can people be more objective please-If you hate Noles tantrums (chacking racket-like many others, nothing new-When bagdatitis does thats charming?Yes?)what about Rafa shouting and then trowing ball in direction at the umpire?If Nole done that, everybody would be up in arms….Comone.I respect Rafa a lot.He is such a nice guy so why lots of his fans are opposite?Full of hatred for other two?Don’t get it…


courbon Says:

@mat 4:Going to bed now and as Del’s says:Bonjur


mat4 Says:

courbon:

I respect Rafa only when he is a respectful loser.


Kimberly Says:

meanwhile im not really that confident at all, just trying to make sure the djokovic fans are as miserable as me.


Mark Says:

According to weather forecast the should have a couple of hours of sun/cloud.


skeezer Says:

courban

Love your Armagnac, ;-)


jane Says:

I will most definitely congratulate Rafa if he wins; he will have 7 wins at one slam, equal only to Pete’s 7 Wimbledons; he will have 11 slams, equal to Borg and Laver; and he will have momentum. He is only 26. He will win more slams too.

I just hope that if that happens tomorrow, in the next 4 years Nole can still win at Roland Garros and complete his set. Fed and Agassi both won it at 29 years, so if Nole stays healthy and hungry, he will have more chances.

I also hope it’s not too anti-climactic tomorrow.


Mark Says:

The big question why were they playing in the rain for over an hour? Made the balls heavy and Rafa lost his topspin. Conspiracy!!


courbon Says:

@Mat 4:Maybe I’m wrong but I’v seen once Rafa after beating Nole going to Noles camp and shaking hands with his team.I thought that was very nice and humble.Was any time that he was not respectful?


Swiss Maestro Says:

what happens if they dont finish the match tomorrow? do they come back on tuesday? do they share the trophy?

mat4:

with just 6 slams, ahead of nadal, borg and sampras? was wilander boozed like he always is ;) i think withing 2 slams of rafa, novak gets the jump up. so he needs 9 to overtake borg and 12 to overtake sampras and 14… God dammit! i will not complete that sentence :D [dont anyone dare to do it either. LOL!


courbon Says:

@Skeezer:I just moved here from London so I’m stll getting us to it (I actually prefer Calvados but I better not let locals see me buying that…French are sensitive.I know-I’m married to one ).


Swiss Maestro Says:

jane- thanks for that information about the last time they played on a monday in paris!


courbon Says:

@kimberly:yes I’m also misserable, being Novaks fan is nerve wrecking…and I’m not sure what kind of Novak will come on the court tomorrow.He is like Jekyll and Hyde, you never know who will show up..


Mark Says:

When has Rafa not been a respectful loser?? NEVER is the answer. Rafa for his 7th FO tomorrow. VAMOS RAFAA!!


mat4 Says:

@Courbon:

But he didn’t lose then. It was at the USO 2010, BTW. The point isn’t about him being respectful, but about him to lose.

@Kimberly:

Of course nolefans feel probably as miserable as rafans. And for most of the match, I personally felt much worse.

But now is the time or never to brag, to smart. After the match, whoever win and whoever lose, it will be rude.


Humble Rafa Says:

I needed that break. See you tomorrow.


Kimberly Says:

Humbe Rafa—no congratulatory messages for the Cleveland Traitor?


courbon Says:

@Mat4:I got your point.I don’t remember that one…Anyway, lets best man win tomorrow.Good night to everybody.


mat4 Says:

Quote from another site:

“8 straight games is phenomenal. Then Rafa started crying about the rain and court but Djok did not at all. Djok held tough, sucked it up and adapted to the conditions while Rafa and Uncle Toni whined and were looking for a way out. The referee did the right thing, this is not about Rafa it’s really about the fans there and worldwide who are watching. Fans pay the way for this sport, the fans want action. As long as nobody was falling and getting hurt, play the game and shut up. You can understand Rafa getting touchy about the court and rain but he is supposed to be tougher than that, and should not resort to gamesmanship or intimidating the referee to stop the action because he was losing and his opponent was beginning to find his A plus super form.”


ron wilson Says:

I’m here to remind everyone that andy Murray won Cincinnati! It’s an important tournament also!


Kimberly Says:

Rafa is not known for his great play under conditions he is unhappy with:
Mueller-USO 2011
Federer–Indian Wells
Verdasco–Madrid

It is a part of him I wish he could change, his adaptability and willingness to play in less than favorable conditions. Actually Federer is the most adaptable IMO.

But I expect it will be sunny enough off the bounce the new balls will fly sky high tomorrow?


madmax Says:

jane Says:
I will most definitely congratulate Rafa if he wins; he will have 7 wins at one slam, equal only to Pete’s 7 Wimbledons; he will have 11 slams, equal to Borg and Laver; and he will have momentum. He is only 26. He will win more slams too.

I just hope that if that happens tomorrow, in the next 4 years Nole can still win at Roland Garros and complete his set. Fed and Agassi both won it at 29 years, so if Nole stays healthy and hungry, he will have more chances.

I also hope it’s not too anti-climactic tomorrow.

June 10th, 2012 at 4:19 pm

Jane, Federer was 27 when he won Roland Garros, not 29.


madmax Says:

It is a shame that this match did not finish today. Being at work, it will be difficult to watch. Not the same watching highlights, but I hope the weather is better.

A retractable roof will be built at RG in 2017. Weird that they wait that long. Why not start last year? They take 3 years to build.


mat4 Says:

Kimberly:

Nope. Seems it is gonna rain tomorrow too.

BTW, congrats for the Heats’ victory.


conty Says:

PhenomeNole in 5 set thriller!

btw, i will be too carlo, as i was last year, and the year before about tennis; too depressed to post until who knows when, now that Nole got my hopes up, if he goes on to get dusted whenever they play this out. Nole had momentum!

ron wilson. thanks for the reminder! :D


Kimberly Says:

Conty, I insist it is Rafa in 4 or 5. No other outcome is acceptable. Kaiser is actually changing his mind and rooting for nadal as he is afraid of the shitstorm in this house if he loses.


Joe W Says:

Before the stoppage, on the last or second to last point, Novak had a pretty good slip while pushing off to move forward. The Umpire let them play for as long as he could and made the right decision. At the end of the second set, McEnroe commented that even though the rain was light but steady, eventually they would have to stop play. I actually think the Umpire was letting them play into the third because Nadal had a two set lead and was up a break. They were probably waiting to see if Novak was going to fold in straight sets.

For me, Rafa’s struggles in the third were not so much the wet balls and Novak raising his play as it was about the wet clay taking away his footwork and rhythm which is so important to his game. He actually looked human for once, spraying balls and even whiffing on one. Kind of refreshing.

Rafa and Tony were demonstrably frustrated but I think the delay is in their favor.

Totally unrelated but does anyone know what the format will be for the Olympics – best of five or three?


Befil24 Says:

Hi all,

My first post here, but I’ve been reading for a long time. For me the excuse of the top spin of Rafa being less effective for loosing just shows how poor his shot making (tennis) abilities really are. In other words, if the opponent is allowed to hit the ball like HE is allowed to, he will lose (see WTF). Don’t think it’s a valid excuse sorry. Damn technology! Just wondering if I’m the only thinking that…


conty Says:

I’m like 4,000 miles away from you :D of course, if I were in the same room um, would cheer Rafa, yeah…probably would because of ColinO7, too.

But for now safe in Idaho, Ajde Nole!

Kimberly, since I have to work tomorrow, will congratulate you now, in advance, or less likely send my sympathy. But you got to understand I suffered too many RG disappointments. My heart is with the Serbian for quite a few reasons at this point.


Nina Says:

Hey nole fans, have faith in our man. I almost lost it today but he proved us wrong once again. Never doubt Nole, never.


conty Says:

Joe W.

Pretty sure from memory, read somewhere, that 2012 Olympics will be best of 3. Fits with how many points an Olympic win is given as well. Gold = 750 point


jane Says:

Thanks for clarifying madmax. Well for sure Agassi won it at 29, and Fed 27, and Nole’s just 25, so I was just looking on the bright side thinking, if he doesn’t get it tomorrow he still has chances.


skeezer Says:

Kimberly,

lol at 5:40pm post


Kimmi Says:

i dont know how they will start tomorrow. he had so much momentum nole. the bright side is, he now knows what works and what doesn’t. he needs to start very sharp. first thing first HOLD his serve.

rafa was so happy to hold his serve just before they stop the game. he wants to finish it in 4


Dory Says:

I “coached” Nole on Twitter to play aggressive right from the start and not make any errors at the (re)-start.


Nirmal Kumar Says:

This is what I said yesterday to a poster who was predicting an overwhelming victory for Nadal. I’m happy that Nole lived up to it.

When the top 2 rivals meet, sometimes you just throw away the form and look at their matchups. Roger was playing the best quality tennis in 2009 AO. Rafa just scrapped through his semis. we all knew what happened in the finals.

When it comes to Rafa,Roger and Nole the form is not too critical. They can get their form anytime during their tournament.

Novak knows a certain pattern of beating Rafa. Not that he is going to beat him 100%, but he has 50 : 50 chance.


Margot Says:

Rafa will have plenty more chances to get 7 or more. I feel this is Nole’s one chance to get 4 in a row and I hope he does it. Come on Nole!


Wog boy Says:

Margot,

Good to see you back:)

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