Wimbledon Men’s Final Open Thread: Roger Federer v. Andy Murray
by Staff | July 7th, 2012, 11:45 pm
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Wimbledon 2012 sees the 126th staging of The Lawn Tennis Championships, which began in 1877 with Britain’s Spencer Gore defeating compatriot William Marshall 61 62 64 for the inaugural title. This is the 45th staging of The Championships in the Open Era, the first being in 1968 when Australia’s Rod Laver defeated countryman Tony Roche 63 64 62. Wimbledon 2012 is the 178th Grand Slam tournament of the Open Era.

Prize money and ATP ranking points: Today’s champion receives £1,150,000 in prize money, while the runner-up collects £575,000. In total, the men’s singles prize fund for 2012 Wimbledon is £5,770,000, a 10.3% increase on 2011. The winner is also awarded 2000 ATP ranking points, with the runner-up receiving 1200.

ATP rankings update: If Roger Federer wins today he will regain the No. 1 ranking when the ATP Rankings are released on Monday 9 July. He is guaranteed to move to No. 2 even if he loses the final. Andy Murray will be No. 4 regardless of whether he wins today.

NO. 3 ROGER FEDERER (SUI) v NO. 4 ANDY MURRAY (GBR)
Head-to-head: Murray leads 8-7

A 3rd Grand Slam final for the 2 players but a first grass court encounter.

Federer has won both their previous Grand Slam meetings without the loss of a set. Murray is one of just 2 active players who have had more than one career meeting with Federer to hold a winning head-to-head, the other is Rafael Nadal (18-10).

Federer leads Murray 4-2 in finals. The Swiss has only lost one Wimbledon final – to Nadal in 2008.

This is the first time that both No. 1 and No. 2 seeds are missing from a Grand Slam final since Murray and Novak Djokovic met in the final at the 2011 Australian Open.

6-time Wimbledon champion FEDERER is bidding to join record-holders William Renshaw and Pete Sampras in winning 7 career Wimbledon titles.

Federer is looking to become the 7th man to win 7 titles at any Grand Slam event: William Renshaw and Pete Sampras both won 7 Wimbledon titles, Richard Sears, Bill Larned and Bill Tilden all won 7 titles at the US Championships and Rafael Nadal won his 7th Roland Garros title last month.

Federer is bidding to win his 17th Grand Slam title and close the gap on the 5 women who have won more Grand Slam singles titles than him.

If Federer wins the title today he will reclaim the No. 1 spot in the ATP Rankings when they are released on Monday 9 July. If he achieves this he will match record-holder Pete Sampras for the total number of weeks as the world No. 1. He is already guaranteed to overtake Nadal and reclaim the No. 2 spot.

MURRAY is bidding to become the first British men’s winner at Wimbledon since Fred Perry won the last of his 3 singles titles here in 1936. He would also be the first British men’s winner at any Grand Slam event since Fred Perry won the US Championships later the same year. He is bidding to end a 7-match losing streak by British players in Grand Slam finals.

Murray is just the 3rd British man to reach the Wimbledon final since the Challenge Round* was abolished in 1922, after Austin and Perry. Perry won all 3 of his finals in 1934, 1935 and 1936 to be crowned Wimbledon champion.

This is the 286th Grand Slam event since a British man last won a major title. Murray is one of 4 British men to have reached a Grand Slam final since Perry’s victory at the 1936 US Championships.

Murray is bidding to avoid becoming just the second man in the Open Era to lose his first 4 Grand Slam finals. Ivan Lendl lost in 4 Grand Slam finals at 1981 Roland Garros, the 1982 and 1983 US Opens, and the 1983 Australian Open before winning his first Grand Slam title at 1984 Roland Garros.

(Data courtesy ITF)


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621 Comments for Wimbledon Men’s Final Open Thread: Roger Federer v. Andy Murray

Daniel Says:

I remember one comment from Federer and I wish he makes it happen. Remember after AO 2010 he said: “I’ll take him in a Grand Slam final anyday”. Will see!


Gannu Says:

Quite and high pressure match for both of them…roger has been there before handling pressures like chasing records etc…Imagine sampras coming all the way from US to watch Fedex beat his record and Fed did win 16-14…If he had lost? He would have not been No 1and would sampras have flown again?? I mean quite amazing how Fed handles the presure of history so well…The match to a great extent will depend on how Andy handles the pressure…he has been doing well..But this is the ultimate pressure that he will face…Wimbledon final against the greatest…I always had a soft corner for Andy despite his howling habits because i felt he is very hardworking, dedicated and most imp has the talnet to win Gslam…But just cant support him when so much is stake for my Feddy bear…More imply Andy is young and he may have more chances…Fed simply has to realise this is the best ever chance for one last glory and seal all the arguments about his place in history – right at the top….Come on Feddy bear…Your fed fans’ eyes have been parched to se you win…

All fedfans – madmax, daniel, skeez, kimmi, dave, sienna, Ben, huh, NK – lets cheer our man to the glory


Dave Says:

According to the BBC: “It will be a showery day. Showers will be heavy and thundery and slow moving and persistent at times. Some bright spells may form between showers, particularly later.” This suggests the roof will probably be closed. Still, the forecast graphic (in link) suggest the possibility of rain stopping by afternoon so if the forecasts improve it’s possible that the match might start with the roof open.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2643743?day=2


Gordo Says:

There is magic every time Federer steps on a court. Just like Gretzky in hockey, he sets records beyond what anyone imagines and beyond what many give him credit for.

If he were to lose to anyone in a final of a Grand Slam I would want it to be Murray, the hardest working and best player to have never won a slam. But I can’t root for him above Fed.

In one month Roger Federer will be 31 years of age and he will either be ranked 1 or 2 in the world of tennis.

An open question to all -

Does anyone see Nole or Rafa in a GS Final when they are about to turn 31? Other than in one’s dreams?


Dave Says:

But contrary to popular belief, Andy Murray is a pretty good indoor player as well.
http://www.atpworldtour.com/Reliability-Zone/Reliability-Indoor-Career-List.aspx

May the best player win tomorrow. Hopefully it’s a great match.


Margot Says:

Dave, thanx 4 that link. A bit reassuring. Was beginning to think OMG if the roof is closed Andy’ll really be stuffed.
Of course Roger is the overwhelming favourite but…


Dave Says:

Boris Becker analyzes both finalists: “Roger is probably the greatest player of all time on grass, and it’s hard to describe just how difficult it can be to go up against somebody with so many options, so much talent. Roger has the whole arsenal: the half-volley, the second serve, the slice backhand and the drop shot. He brings it to you from the off, and on grass it’s so hard to compete with that weaponry because it’s the hardest surface to defend on. For me, Roger is the favourite by 55 per cent to 45. He has already been in too many this position not to know what he wants to do. He will have a good idea exactly how he wants to play this final, and I expect him to come out ultra-aggressive, trying to blitz Murray in the same way that Jo-Wilfried Tsonga did for much of the third and fourth sets.”
http://tinyurl.com/dyymzwa


Nirmal Kumar Says:

As Tsonga noted in his interview post his loss, Murray may be more exhausted mentally as well as physically. He made the right play in his last 3 matches, the type of tennis expected from a GS champ. Did he peak a bit too early, that he may end up with an average match tomorrow would be the key.

Roger seems to be mentally prepared. His post victory reaction was subdued, probably confident that he would be facing a first time finalist in his Title match. DelPo was the first time finalist to beat Roger at USO, but Roger has seen Murray before in the finals though not at Wimbledon. He knows apart from Rafa in clay finals, he can edge out others when he gets his act together.

Even if Murray loses this match, I believe he got the game he wanted to become the GS contendor. That would be his biggest plus for him this Wimbledon. He won’t be too depressed, as he himself said the pressure is less on him knowing it’s Roger on the other side. Also Murray has claimed before, that most likely his first GS would be in HC and most likely USO.

Is Murray mentally prepared to beat Roger in the final?

The answer would be No. It may also help him that he can swing freely atleast couple of sets and make it competitive and if Roger falters then take the match. Mentally this match would be on Roger’s control.

Is he technically good enough to beat Roger now? Yes. Murray has shown huge improvement in his serve. He is confident in 2nd serve, because he is more successful in his 1st serve. When his serve works, then his FH could be a real weapon. His BH anyway is prethty solid and he may add more power to his CC BH. He has played the best tennis of the tournament in last 2 rounds excluding Roger’s 3rd set performance.


Dave Says:

Margot: You’re welcome. I feel Andy will play well, and I agree with Becker — Andy has a 40 to 45% chance of winning. I have always believed that Ivan Lendl’s coaching, tactical help and mentoring would eventually pay off, if not today, by the US Open or Australian Open. But if Murray wins the final, I’m sure many Federer fans will be happy for him, myself included, because we can appreciate his game.


Lisa Says:

@Dave

Nice outlook by ‘Nick Bollettieri’s….

I think it’s also helpful if Murray ‘Uses the Cheering Crowd to his Advantage…..’


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Gannu.. I don’t think this will be Roger’s last chance. His only trouble is against Novak and Rafa. If you take them out, still he has a good shot. But this win may spur him for more success, since it would give him tremendous confidence.

Also Murray too would not be broken if he looses. He would have felt bad if he had lost to Novak, but with Roger he may take it easy. But his level against Roger may tell us whether his final is due to Rafa’s early exit or his improvement. Though I think it’s his improvement which helped him win matches, if he goes tamely in the finals it would not be a good sign. A fighting final would give him confidence and anything can happen on a particular day.


madmax Says:

Daniel Says:
I remember one comment from Federer and I wish he makes it happen. Remember after AO 2010 he said: “I’ll take him in a Grand Slam final anyday”. Will see!

July 8th, 2012 at 12:07 am

Daniel,

can you post the link please?

Cannot remember Federer saying something as blatant as that, but if he did then it’s just sport and a sportsman mentality. I can see him saying how much he was ‘looking forward to playng Andy’ and ‘how excited he would be feeling’, but not in the way you suggest.

Gannu,

Of course, we will be there together in spirit, wishing for our man to come through.


gannu Says:

NK – I disagree..last 2 yrs e lost to berdych, soderling and tsnga..if any of these players catch fire and blast aces and keep hitting powerful strokes fed is vulnerable…So thats the issue..he cant get thru early rounds that easily..against benneateau he was almost out….so itsnot a shoo in… I still believe this is the best chance he can gt


Lisa Says:

The whole of Britain might be cheering for Murray….

But the rest of the world will be rooting for Federer for his 7th wimbledon title….


Nirmal Kumar Says:

gannu..when u say it’s his last oppurtunity, is it only wimbledon or any slam. My point is, he can win any of the slams not specific to Wimbledon. Even at wimbledon, if he is healthy I don’t think other than Nadal or Novak can take him out consistently. Roger still has another 2-3 years of good quality tennis.


Thomas Says:

so jamie, who has the psychic predicted to win the final?


metan Says:

Whom you choose Lisa?

My gut feeling is Murray, I cheer him


Lisa Says:

@metan

Federer of course…..am a Fed fan….but I wouldn’t mind if Murray wins too….I’d be happy for either player….


Skorocel Says:

Daniel: “I’ll take him in a Grand Slam final anyday”

Whom? Murray? Hope he doesn’t regret these words when today’s final is over…


Mark Says:

Come on Andy! Kick some butt today!! You can do it!!


Ben Pronin Says:

I’d just like to point out how, with the Djokovic-Nadal in finals streak snapped, we get literally the next best thing ranking-wise. Another great example of the absurd dominance by the Big 3 + Murray.


Kimmi Says:

djokovic was the favorite in the semi and he lost, anything can happen today.

Hoping federer back holds up. Tough one for me as a fed fan, but will be happy for murray if he takes it.


Ben Pronin Says:

I’d also like to point out how this is, in fact, the second straight slam final where there is so much history on the line for both players. The Nadal-Djokovic final had the most history on the line for both players like that for maybe the first time ever. But this final certainly ups the ante. Well, somewhat. Federer, like Nadal was, is going for his 7th title but he also has a bunch of other records that he’ll break by winning. And Djokovic was going for the Djoker-career slam whereas, well, we all know the deal with Murray. I don’t know what to consider more intense, but regardless, these are just amazingly fantastic times in tennis. Sometimes their dominance does get a little boring and redundant, but when you get matches like these, it all seems worth the wait.


racquet Says:

The roof is opening. Yes! I can’t remember being this excited/nervous before a final.


Kimberly Says:

THis is the first final since 2010 in Australia that has not featured either Nadal or Djokovic and it is the same two people

AO 2010 Fed/Murray
FO 2010 Nadal/Soderling
Wimb 2010-Nadal-Berdych
USO 2010-Nadal-Djokovic
AO 2011-Djokoivc Murray
FO 2011-Nadal Federer
Wimb 2011-Nadal Djokovic
USO 2011-Nadal Djokovic
AO 2012-Nadal-Djokovic
FO 2012-Nadal-Djokovic
Wimbledon 2012-Federer Murray


xmike Says:

has anyone done the maths on the 2012 points race, with or without the result of the final?


Margot Says:

Come on Andy! Silence the haters and the doubters and win your first damn slam.
Do it for your family, your team, your fans but most of all for yourself.
Let’s go Andy. Let’s go. Come on :)


dari Says:

T minus 20 minutes!

History will be made today, best to both boys!


Wog boy Says:

madmax,

I couldn’t find Federer comment that Daniel pointed at but I found domething else, just google:
Top 10 Roger Federer Verbal Jabs at Andy Murray

It from “Drop Shot Dispach” forum.
Nobody is saint and these are only Top 10 Federers comments at Andy, Federer is master of the tennis game on and off the court:)
Enjoy tha match:)


the DA Says:

Margot, all the best. Hope we don’t need to spend too much time behind the sofa ;)


Wog boy Says:

“dispatch”


skeezer Says:

Kimberly,

Just found out who you are cheering for in the final.
Murray.
Lebron just tweeted he is cheering for Murray.

C’mon Fed!


metan Says:

Good luck for your guy lisa, hope he can equal pete. But I would love to see andy win, as Roger has owned 6.


racquet Says:

I hear you Margot. Drinking mimosas to settle the nerves.

BTW, I just read an interesting theory on another board that Andy’s pointing skywards is a tribute to the Dunblane shooting victims. That choked me up ‘cuz it’s conceivable.


skeezer Says:

@margot

“hugs” at ya before the match. Hope our favs put on show to remember ;)t


TampaFl Says:

Go Federer :-> Federer in 4


Dory Says:

Hi everyone bye everyone. I couldn’t participate muhc on tennis-x during the Slams and Masters 1000s because I have to watch all matches on my slow internet streaming, don’t have cable TV any more. Roger winning today would mean the world to me. He already is the GOAT but he’s trying SOO hard since Australian Open 2010. That Slam final I remember well, he played AWESOME. Hope he wins today and creates history once more – 7th Wimbledons, 17th Slam, back to No.1. So excited today. Would be great if Murray finally gets his 1st Slam but Murray is 3rd of my “Like” list behind Roger at 1st place and Djokovic at 2nd place.


Wog boy Says:

margot,

Positive energy is coming to London all the way from Sydney.

Andy is going to come out all guns blazing, you will see. That is only way he can win against Federer and he knows that.


conty Says:

racquet, um…i’m sure you’ll keep mixing the fresh squeezed OJ in to the glass, then add the bubbly; not make the mistake of having one mimosa and then skipping the OJ and swigging from the dom perrier! oh dear !


conty Says:

Dom Perignon…..perrier is what i’ll drink now. on call


Brando Says:

Roof open- GOOd NEWS for andy!


conty Says:

Dory, sorry to hear about your cable. I’ve lived in places the past 3.5 years where i had no cable. Was confined to streaming…but streaming was easier in 2009. Every year it seems to get harder.


Daniel Says:

Madmax,

I remember it was even discussed in the thread in here.


conty Says:

hi Brando! peace


Daniel Says:

Skeezer, Fed made the comment.


Brando Says:

@cont: right back at you. :-)


Daniel Says:

Wow, Fed started too relaxed. Bizarre mistake with this swing volley. Maybe he is a little nervous.

Lost serve only once in the semis and already lost to open the match. Murray couldn’t ask for a better start.


Brando Says:

Oops, conty>cont of course- friggin iPhone!


Brando Says:

BOTH nervous understandably!


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Tentative start by Roger.


squirrel Says:

come on Rog!


Daniel Says:

Another ugly forehand error when it could be BP


gannu Says:

extremely shaky start by federer…never really thought he would start so badly…disgusting


Brando Says:

Very, very, very EARLY- BUT does fed seem more error prone already today than SF?


Daniel Says:

WTF. Where did this Murray strong forehand came from?! Murray on excelent form. Wow


gannu Says:

hmm….seems federer is getting slammed now!!!! Come on Fed wake up…realise who you are..its centre court, wimbledon finals…not halle semifinal or final ;-)


squirrel Says:

Fed is nervous,kinda weird but understandable i guess..


Brando Says:

Andy seems more composed- who would have thought!


Daniel Says:

Too many UE from Fed so soon. Even so he was 30-30 on Murray’s serve.


Brando Says:

GO MUZZA- fearless start!


Brando Says:

Damn- right play by andy though !


squirrel Says:

GO ROGER!!!


conty Says:

I’m so confused TdF exciting breakaway stage. But already a crisis for me; 2008 gold medalist road champion, Samuel Sanchez, Contador’s friend, already crashed out with a broken collar bone now. oh my god. : (

guess I’ll switch to Wimbles sooner than later…


Brando Says:

Yeah this is gonna be long, tense one based on the opening few games!


Daniel Says:

That break relaxed Murray.

Fed holds and better compose himself. So far Murray made 2 UE’ that I saw and Fed 5 minimum.


Brando Says:

FH looks big from andy- good sign.


Brando Says:

ACE- more ofthose please!


Brando Says:

Oooh- 1st serve please andy!


Brando Says:

Wow, fed with the BH!


Daniel Says:

Wow, perfect backhan down the line without too much pace but placement. BP Fed


Brando Says:

DAMN!


squirrel Says:

yayyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!


sub023 Says:

2-all, and it’s already a nice, tight match. I’m f-in’ excited!


Brando Says:

Beautiful BH by andy!


Daniel Says:

Yeahhhh. Murray took the pace out of the serve an only return with slice. Fed noted that Muuray is not doing anything with the slices.


metan Says:

Come on murray 21 make 31, goooooo


Brando Says:

Yes, 0-30!


Daniel Says:

Fed not serving great. Another attacking point that Fed loses with a bizarre stroke. 0-30. Jeh won’t he have a good serbice game?


Brando Says:

Amazing adjustment by fed there!


gannu Says:

making so many errors…why the fck he cant play well in finals…really irritating !!!


Brando Says:

Awesome more long rallies suit andy!


Daniel Says:

Either Fed is not serving great or Murray is returning better than Djoko.


Brando Says:

Amazing volley by fed!


Brando Says:

BH DTL- loving it! bOTH are playing amazing!


Daniel Says:

A lot of variety by these too.


squirrel Says:

finally,fed’s ahead in scoreboard!


Daniel Says:

Finally Murray giving an easy point to Fed, missing second return. Fed 3-2!


Brando Says:

Iimportant service game here.


Brando Says:

Beautiful BH- you got to love that shot by fed!


Brando Says:

Phewwwwwwww , got away with that one!


Daniel Says:

Urgh Fed. Can’t miss easy second return like this


metan Says:

Andy make 3 please


Brando Says:

Thank god- big 1st serve!


Daniel Says:

32 min and we are still 3-3. Im the semis it qas 6-3 in 24 min


Daniel Says:

Finally a Federer service game


conty Says:

somebody! please someone sort of neutral and not too stressed do some commentating on the action a little. I am glued to TdF…..until 3rd set at least….


Daniel Says:

10-5 UE Fed-Murray. He needs to cut this down


gannu Says:

come on feddy bear…now break andy and serve for the 1st set please please please please…I just dont wnat any heart attacks at all…


Djokowins Says:

Good to see some outdoor tennis. Today it wont be only about serving. It tests all your skills.


Djokowins Says:

“32 min and we are still 3-3. Im the semis it qas 6-3 in 24 min”

Welcome to outdoor tennis.


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Roger is settling now. Hope he gets a quick break here.


Daniel Says:

Danm. Fed making a move.


gannu Says:

Andy’s mom is unbearable…dont know why she is so irritating…


Huh Says:

mind says: federer

heart says: federer

but gut says: muzza

want it to be nothing else than a 5 setter! whatever happens, supporters of both must be proud by the end of the match instead of cursing their luck/complaining about form/courage or stuff…

so c’mon guys, give us a long memorable match, so that the fans of both can hold their heads high!


gannu Says:

fed concentrate please..please focus


gannu Says:

huh..good to c u posting after ages ;-) Come on our man shud win


Brando Says:

Big FH by andy!


Huh Says:

gannu is seriously worried and tense as ever, lol! ;)

hi gannu!

today i’m rootin for fed thou i wont mind muzza winning anywhere as much i mind nole/nadal winning against fed coz for all we know, i love andy murray! :p


gannu Says:

every missed chance is equal to an attack for me..come on fed…pls break him…Yes huh i am like that for Fed ;-)


gannu Says:

Come on FED PLS PLS PLS BREAK..PLS CONVERT THIS


gannu Says:

One more chance is gone! Oh Ghodh


Huh Says:

gannu:

seriously this is the most that ever was in line for fed barring perhaps his first slam final, thats why much as i love muzza and would hate to see him losing another final, today I cant root against fed, allez!!!


Daniel Says:

Murray played fiercelly those 2 BP.


gannu Says:

scrwd up chances…u need to take them FED!!!!


gannu Says:

yes huh…too much on line for fed…let him win and retire..I will be a v happy man…Pls pls Fed break him


Huh Says:

gannu:

who’s playing better?? is it fed playing terrible and murray playing composed or the other way round or 50-50??


conty Says:

listening to wimbles radio and watching tdf. sounds like this 1st set is a hot contest! both really fighting for it….better change channels soon, record TdF and watch this historic match.


Daniel Says:

Murray survived a vital game, 4-4.


Daniel Says:

gannu, stop with thia retire talk

Fed himself said he will have a long career.


gannu Says:

i think 50-50…but fed isnt playing big pts well…Fed cud play a lot better….


Brando Says:

Lendl style!


gannu Says:

Now fed has to face 2 BPs…really if he lose sthis 1st set i am off


Daniel Says:

That’s qhy i hate this games qhen tou have BP and don’t convert. The next game the server always conceeds BP as well.


gannu Says:

and now murray will serve for the 1st set..fe dis playing badly now…


conty Says:

okay bp’s murray!

fed needs that good serving day and is not having it.

murray serving for set 1 !!


racquet Says:

omg


Andrew Miller Says:

Hitting the ball at Federer worked. Murray serving for set, 5-4. That really shook Federer!


Daniel Says:

Sh….t. The only positive for Fed is that Murray’s last 3 service games, 1 Fed brike, te other went to deuce and the last Fed had 2 BP and lasted 10 min. Will see how Murray will serve


Daniel Says:

Fed didn’t save a BP so far


metan Says:

Make long rally,andy,,,,,,Roger can’t take it


conty Says:

well stats don’t look bad for Fed’s serving. but Murray has the momentum. And Federer will need to respond 2nd set.


conty Says:

big serve out wide from murray. and an ace out wide follows.

set points muzzzzzzzzzzzzz


Djokowins Says:

Only rain can save Federer now.

He cannot compete even with Murray when it comes to outdoor tennis.


racquet Says:

Yes! This is a different Andy. The old Andy would’ve caved in that previous game with those BPs against him.


marrisv Says:

Yes Murray…yes….


Djokowins Says:

And wins his first ever set in a GS final in his life.


Daniel Says:

Well one monkey off Murray’s back! Finally wins a set in a Grand Slam final. Can he makes one step further?

That 3-4 game was the key so far. I was positive Fed would break and serve for the set. Credit to Murray who holds his ground.


marrisv Says:

That 4-3 game was pivotal. He came through showing strong mental fortitude


Brando Says:

That was SWEET! Said andy needed the 1st set, he’s got it- get the match now andy!


metan Says:

Yesssssssssssssxssssssssssssssss, ;first set Murray


Daniel Says:

Great opening game for Fed. Let’s see if Murray keeps the focus.


Djokowins Says:

Hope Murray gets a break in the second set before the inevitable booring indoor tennis.


conty Says:

Fed responds with great service game


Brando Says:

The OUTDOOR conditions make a BIG DIFFERENCE! Already fed made 16 UE in set one- indoor that wouldn’t happen!


Daniel Says:

Indeed this Murray is different, battle tested.


Brando Says:

Focus andy!


Daniel Says:

Cone on murray, walkabout:)


conty Says:

Murray knows he can’t drop serve. 2nd serve 30-30 on murray serve


Brando Says:

Loving the GRIT andy is showing today- no mopping around, just chest out and dealing with it! That’s my boy!


conty Says:

Federer Bp chance


Brando Says:

There we go- come on andy!


Daniel Says:

Another BP Murray offense, Nadal like


conty Says:

deuce. murray saves bp…oh boy!


conty Says:

Murray definitely seizing his opportunity without fear


Djokowins Says:

“The OUTDOOR conditions make a BIG DIFFERENCE! Already fed made 16 UE in set one- indoor that wouldn’t happen!”

Very true…he cannot handle the elements like the other top players.


Daniel Says:

All BP’s Fed played short balls as well.


conty Says:

it’s deuce.


conty Says:

ad Murray. Murray showing his best tennis and determination. this is not like his previous GS finals.


Daniel Says:

Another long game.


conty Says:

Murray holds 1-1


Brando Says:

Who stood up under pressure? Mr andy Murray!


metan Says:

Make it equal Murray, don’t give him a chance


Daniel Says:

This Murray is surprising me. He is not making silly mistakes in the final points of the games. He is playing the important points with resolveness. But he has to serve better. He won’t handle all this 5 min plus on his service games all match.


Brando Says:

I liking the power andy is displaying in his shots!


Daniel Says:

First DF of the match


conty Says:

serving is crucial from Federer. but Murray has been doing a job on Federer moving him around that last Murray service game of Andy’s.

Federer double faults


Ben Pronin Says:

Federer should’ve broken at least 3 by now. His returning is abysmal. Murray is lucky he’s even in this, yet alone up a set and on serve in the second. I don’t know how many second serves a guy needs to see to take advantage.


conty Says:

Federer manages to hold. 2-1

but Federer needs more aces. Ace exhibition day for Fed would do the trick. but only 3 aces so far….4 for Murray


Brando Says:

It’s still Neck and neck- JUST fed seems more error prone, and in this physical contest- Murray seems abut more powerful, IMO!


Brando Says:

Awesome FH angle by fed there!


metan Says:

Murray through 11 second set


Daniel Says:

Stop missing forehand returns


racquet Says:

LOL @ Ben Pronin.


conty Says:

Murray great serving…

Murray responding to nearly every test.

2 -all


Brando Says:

I think to win andy always needed fed at 75%, today i think he’s got him at that level!


Daniel Says:

Murray’s second ball is making a difference overall. He is always trying to go for something more and not conceedin a sittee to Fed.


racquet Says:

Fantastic BH drop volley.


Brando Says:

@ben: what match are you watching? They’re BOTH eating up the others 2nd serve- check the stats for set 1! Fed winning 27% and andy winning 37% on 2nd serve!


Van orten Says:

This is ridículous by fed so far. Completly on his racquet…Murray just pushing..fed offfffffff


marrisv Says:

Wow Murray….come on


Djokowins Says:

Go break him now


racquet Says:

Andy is playing fantastic tennis right now.


conty Says:

Murray challenging Federer on every serve, returning well.

15-40 Murray BP


Brando Says:

There we go- andy outmuscling fed here! Hitting BIG!


marrisv Says:

Murray imposing himself…


Daniel Says:

Agree with Ben, Murray served 7 times ad only jold easy on 2. Fed hold better but was broken all the time. Another BP for murray. Him saving BP is breaking Fed focus


Daniel Says:

Finally Fed saving BP’s


marrisv Says:

This could be a crucial game…l


conty Says:

deuce. Fed fought back to deuce. but lots of pressure on Fed


metan Says:

Break him andy, you can do it,,,,,,,,


the DA Says:

LOL. what match is van orten watching, a rerun?


conty Says:

hahahhaha 2 smashes returned by Murray. great match! finally federer holds.


marrisv Says:

Huge hold by fed for 3-2…


Daniel Says:

This is a game he was needing. Now go on and keeps pressuring Murray. He has got to feel eventually, even Fed did on 4-4


metan Says:

Lovely andy, go


Ben Pronin Says:

I’m watching the match where Murray is hitting second serves and Federer is just slicing it back instead of going after it. So many missed opportunities, so many easy returns missed. Just awful.


Daniel Says:

Yes Brando, but on complicated games so far Murray had more than Fed. The problem Fed was broken the 2 times
he faced BP prior to the last game.


the DA Says:

If anyone is pushing, it’s Federer. His returns are averaging 53mph


Van orten Says:

You can say what you want. Fed should win this. Ben pronin is absolutly right. Murray plays like hoping for fed not to raise his level of play


Super Says:

Fed is flat. He had to work very hard just to hold his serve (which was impressive).

His chip return doesn’t work against Murray, and his regular returns are either shanks or they sit up in the middle of the court for Murray to attack.

Federer isn’t dictating with his forehand and he is scrambling to return Murray’s serve and other shots.

If this keeps up then Murray will win. Federer’s chance is to keep the points shorter and to dictate play around the net. He needs precise forehands into the corners of the court to take this match.

It’s an interesting final.
As I write this Murray has easily taken his serve to get to 3 all, second set.


Brando Says:

@ben: that’s EXACTLY WHY I wanted andy to face fed rather than nole- nole would eat those 2nd serves up!


Kimmi Says:

Just started watching, muzza with the lead. hmmm, it will be big for muzza to finally win a major.


Ben Pronin Says:

I agree with Super, Federer isn’t doing enough on the forehand side, either. Overall this is a weird match where the roles are reversed. Murray is taking it to Federer but Federer is just too passive.


Maso Says:

Murray is playing amazingly well! Hope Fed can raise his level or Andy will most likely take this one.


Brando Says:

Fed just seems strangely mute today!


Daniel Says:

At least this point he attacked the second serve.


the DA Says:

2nd serve returns that should’ve been


Brando Says:

Yep, agree fed seems more edgy, nervous and the shanks are starting to arrive from him now!


Daniel Says:

Damm. Excelent returns and even so Fed lost both points


Maso Says:

Too much sloppiness from Fed so far. Murray is playing much cleaner and more confidently at the moment. Come on, Rog, get your game on!


Daniel Says:

Murray only had 1 UE second set. Hah, second now. He is playing as well as he can


Brando Says:

ATTACK NOW ANDY!


Daniel Says:

Come on Fed. Serve big


marrisv Says:

Murray is hitting the forehand big….


Brando Says:

HUGE FH by muzza- fed is getting overpowered here!


Brando Says:

What a WILD MISS by FED!


Daniel Says:

Too much. 15-2 UE forehand erros


Daniel Says:

Time to serve


marrisv Says:

Breakpoint for murray


Super Says:

This is it. Break point!


Daniel Says:

Finally a mental error from Murray


Brando Says:

CRAP- ala nadal miss in last years SF?…..


Brando Says:

NOT THIS YEAR- oh yeah!


marrisv Says:

Great play by Murray… Taking the initiative


Daniel Says:

Murray is playing the match the way he wants. Fed not finding a way to imposs


Maso Says:

Roger is playing so passively, Murray’s the one going for the points. How weird!


Brando Says:

Got to admire fed for still fighting hard despite the poor play!


Daniel Says:

Come on!!!!


Van orten Says:

How many more overhead shots still to come??


Daniel Says:

Arg. Made 5 and force Murray to feel the pressure


Maso Says:

Another huge forehand miss from Roger. His forehand stats are not looking good today…


Brando Says:

A come on from fed finally- BUT so many ERRORS!


Daniel Says:

Finally an ace


Daniel Says:

Yeahhh. Now put the returns in play and pressure him. Murray didn’t have to serve to stay alive in a set so far


Brando Says:

BIG HOLD by fed there- showing a champions fight! Crucial andy holds here!


marrisv Says:

That was a big hold for fed.


alok Says:

Yeah, finally an ace. Where’s Fed good serving gone? his conversion of BPs is dismal. I only hope he wins this set.


Daniel Says:

The only thing Murray can do better is improve first serve percentage and we all know Fed can play way better than this. He has to find TMF


Djokowins Says:

Federer is getting more than 70% of first serves in, but still lags behind Murray.


marrisv Says:

What a game by Murray… Nerveless hold


Brando Says:

Andy’s game duration is shorter in set 2 than set 1- ice cool stuff!


Daniel Says:

Come on Fed some ace would ya?!


Djokowins Says:

“we all know Fed can play way better than this. He has to find TMF”

He needs the roof closed for that to happen.


Brando Says:

Hope RAIN stays away- seems cloudy:(


Daniel Says:

Another drama game. Come on rain save Fed:)!!!


alok Says:

Fed’s doing well at the net, but Murray is winning more baseline points.


Brando Says:

Lady luck smiling at andy:-)


Daniel Says:

No Djokowins he can play better even wihout the roof. But with the roof hus level will go up for sure.


Nirmal Kumar Says:

I think it’s advantage Andy if the set goes to Tiebreaker. He is serving superb in the last 3 games.


Daniel Says:

Yeah, hold!!!
Now another pressure game for Murray to force a tiebreak. Fed needs to win first point or make the return. He has to take it to murray


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Roger needs this set. It will put huge pressure back on Andy. He can turn it around and his game may comeback once he has one set in his bag. But based on the pattern of this set, it looks like Andy has a better advantage to take this set. He is playing superb.


Maso Says:

If Andy keeps serving this well and Roger doesn’t raise his level, Andy will definitely win this. Gotta hope Fed gets some inspiration ’cause he’ll need it, the way Murray is playing.


Daniel Says:

Murray is really believing his chances. His serving is starting to get better and better. Hope Fed snicks the tiebreak


Daniel Says:

This is a mental error from Murray Fed was neending. 30-30


Daniel Says:

Yeahhhhh. Set point. this is IT #1


Daniel Says:

WWWWWOOOOOOWWWWWWWW


Maso Says:

Ok, I can breathe again. Damn well played by Roger on that last point.


marrisv Says:

Great play by fed..,.


Andrew Miller Says:

Brilliant. Well done for Federer to win set 2.


squirrel Says:

oh roger,u just brought me back to life!!!!!!


skeezer Says:

Maestro!


Van orten Says:

Finally some magic! Kinda expectable though…puhhhh


sub023 Says:

Old man’s still got fight. COME ON!!


marrisv Says:

1 set all… Come on Andy… Third set start is extremely crucial for Andy


alok Says:

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!. vintage Fed in that last game. Take Muirray to the woodshed now.


Brando Says:

Is that FH miss goig to cost andy like last year?


Daniel Says:

This is TMF. Point of the macth. Told ua Murray eventually will cave in under real preassure. Fed gave the 4-4 game on first set. Now is perfect for Fed who will start serving the third and won a set when Murray was playing supreme.


victor Says:

just magic
sheer brilliance from the swiss maestro


skeezer Says:

Murray ia playing outstanding. Kudos to him.


Djokowins Says:

In both those sets the better player lost it.


Maso Says:

Ok, now it’s a best of 3 grass match, may the best man win!


Humble Rafa Says:

He isn’t called Mr. Lady Forehand for nothing. FH is better than it used to be but still breaks down under pressure.


Brando Says:

Strike early here andy!


Super Says:

It’s the brilliance of Federer to take advantage of such a small opening. He has chiseled through the small crack in the wall to take the set.


Daniel Says:

Even with the open court he was able to miss this forehand. Hold this game Fed, you need to send a message of no more long games on your serve.


metan Says:

Please no raining, go Murray win set 3


Brando Says:

Fearing for andy here:-(


alok Says:

Fed’s gotta strike early in the 3rd set, and needs to convert on his BPs. No more deuce, just blast winners and Murray will start caving in..


Daniel Says:

Hope if it rains Fed has a break already.
Awesome stuff from Murray to hold his Fed attacks


Sienna Says:

Man I cant breath anymore.Yhe match is so intense. This third set is important but everypioiunt they play as if the title is won or lost.

GREAT the two best tennis players of the world going at it.w


Brando Says:

Oh no- I think andy needs the rain delay here now!


Daniel Says:

Lendl making the rains dance


tennisfansince76 Says:

wow Murray was the better player for almost 2 sets. hitting bigger, more decisive. yet it is 1 set all.


Brando Says:

Gutsy stuff by andy!


Daniel Says:

S…t. Fed was 15-30


Fleischer Says:

Will the rain save Fed again today ?


Brando Says:

It’s raining, 1-1 in sets , 1-1 in games WTF is the ref doing and not callig the stop now?


Daniel Says:

Fed having easy games on set 3


Brando Says:

About friggin time!


Daniel Says:

At least is 40-0 Fed. The serve always return a little rusty


Fleischer Says:

Congrats to Fed and his fans for his 17th grandslam.


sub023 Says:

And here cometh the rain. Who’s gonna benefit?


Ben Pronin Says:

Feeling kinda like the Murray-Ferrer match right now. Ferrer outplayed Murray for two sets but somehow lost one of them. Same here. Federer really gutted out that second set but Murray is gonna rue those missed break points if he goes on to lose. Still, with the rain delay, gives Murray a chance to regroup and put that setback behind him. He’s still much stronger off the ground and Federer keeps letting him off the hook on his serve.


kathy Says:

if roger only gets 2000 atp points for winning wimbledon, how does he overtake Novak?


Brando Says:

Andy needed that big time. That should help!


Ben Pronin Says:

Just to clarify, Murray is the one who has been the better player for 2 sets here but still lost one.


marrisv Says:

Well from what I have seen , this Andy is not going away.. Lendl will come in to play now for andy with the break…


victor Says:

andy will definitely have huge benefit after rain


Brando Says:

This andy’s to lose really- he’s been MUCH better than fed in the rallies! IF his mind stays strong, he’s got a title there for him!


Maso Says:

Are they going to close the roof?


victor Says:

roger showed some of his sheer briliance in clutch movement
that’s what chapmpion do
i have never expected Murray to play that well ,but still roger is not going anywhere
hope he will raise his level


Nirmal Kumar Says:

It’s a bad break for Roger. I thought he got the momentum now and Murray was a bit down. Roger could have taken advantage in this set if it continued. Though Murray defied so far, this is the best time where any non GS champ would crack and Roger could have taken advantage.


racquet Says:

Current reports from Wimbledon are that it’s just a shower and they’re going to wait it out.


Lisa Says:

@metan

It’s a good game so far….amazing shots from both players….50/50 I’d say…:)


racquet Says:

Ah, they’ve decided to close it now.


Tennis Vagabond Says:

Murray has played awesome, really the better player for most of the match, but I think things are moving in Fed’s direction.
1) His serve is starting to click, and he looks like he’s getting more confidence and aggression on his groundstrokes
2) the break will hurt Murray. Despite the stop to Fed’s momentum, and no offence to Murray fans, but Fed has been here before, the nerves will not sneak up on him to the same extent as they will Murray
3) closed roof for the greatest indoor player of all time

Think Fed is going to take control.

Great match so far, some absolutely incredible shotmaking and athleticism.


victor Says:

the error count for murray is 7 ,just 7
when was the last time he played that well
man ,he is going to make an impact here
who knows maybe he will win this final
but still i am rooting for fed ,lets see how it goes
roof is closing now i guess


Krishna Says:

Roof is gonna be closed now! This should favor Federer big time hopefully ;D ..


Super Says:

It’s interesting to speculate if the rain delay will make a big difference.

On one hand, Federer could think about his gameplan, the things he did well and the things which he did badly. I have always thought that he is strong mentally, so this break could actually be a positive for him, as he analyzes things in his mind.

Murray could find confidence in the fact that he has played better for most of the match. However, he could think about that 2nd set that got away…
Yet since Murray has Lendl to talk through the match, it can really help him.

Since the roof is closing, that will also change things.


tennisfansince76 Says:

i cannot understand why wimbledon does not just close the roof. isn’t that the pt of the roof. no delays. just close the roof and play the damn match.


Daniel Says:

Even with the break indoors favors Fed. Plus he will resume serving 40-0. Needs just one point and will be up 2-1. Murray will have to deal with a whole game under new conditions and Federer already started attacking more second serves. I give a sloght edge to Fed assume he improves his game. If stays the way it was a long tigh match.


Brando Says:

Damn the roof! Wimby is an outdoor grass tourny- NOW it’s settled indoors!


Brando Says:

Even though it half time: I got to say I’m SO PROUD OF ANDY today! He played like a man, a real braveheart! Hope he keeps it up post delay!


victor Says:

love this match so far
great match after 2009 final
2010 final was the worst match i have even seen on wimbledon
2011 was above average one


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Oops, the roof is being closed. The match now would feature two best indoor tennis players. It’s interesting.


Skorocel Says:

Ben Pronin: “Another great example of the absurd dominance by the Big 3 + Murray.”

Or better said, another great example of how “deep” the current field is…


Nirmal Kumar Says:

This is great news for Murray. He would get a chance to talk to Lendl now. They would reassert few things and start match fresh. When they started the match, Murray was supreme and Roger was tentative.

Though it’s anyone’s guess, maybe Murray now comes back with more assertion of his game with the help of his coach.

But Roger would sit and think what worked for him in the last game. It was pure aggression. Roger needs to come in more. This is grass. Though Murray lies targets, this is the toughest surface to hit passes.

Roger played one poor game to give momentum back to Murray in the 1st set. He had the game at 4-4 in his control. Instead of playing first strike tennis, he gave too much slice and dice to Murray which gave good rhythm to Murray. Hope Roger does not do it again.


Ben Pronin Says:

Skorocel, as far as raw talent, athleticism, even tennis skills, the field is definitely deeper than ever. But as far as mental toughness, the field is as weak as ever. Take away the Big 3 and you have the WTA (well the WTA of pre-2012).


conty Says:

Sad day for me seeing Contador’s friend on the pavement crying in pain :(( Samu Sanchez.

Wonderful day for the French as 22 yr old Thibaut Pinot, future cycling climbing star, climbed and descended his way through his home village and took the stage win! Happy for him. There will be a changing of the guard a year from now in cycling. My Slovaki star, Sagan, keeps the prestigious green sprinters jersey. Brit Bradley Wiggo and team Sky keep the leaders Maillot Jaune! good omen for Murray maybe? But the stage ended in Switzerland…

apologies for my Off topic moment. now back to tennis….

looks like Fed had the momentum before play was suspended.
Murray is the younger, fresher, imo…this delay will probably help him. Federer has his work cut out. this match far from over!

Murray is good indoors; i don’t think the roof closing necessarily favors Fed.


Ben Pronin Says:

Murray being younger and more fresh means the delay should help Federer that much more because he can recover. It’s been a long 2 sets and I’m sure most would agree if the match gets too physical that favors Murray.


Daniel Says:

What do you prefer, indoor tennis or no tennis waiting for rain?I prefer having a match


Brando Says:

@Ben:

DIASGREE- i think andy in this match has shown mental strength! Also i wouldn’t call DEL POTRO or FERRER mental midgets either!


Dave Says:

This has the potential to be the greatest match of all time if it continues for five sets at this level. The first two sets are already better than the first two sets of the 2008 final. Murray is playing the match of his life, good for him.

Lisa, glad you liked the article.


Ben Pronin Says:

I would. They both blow countless matches against the top guys. Del Potro can’t handle a rally that extends more than 3 shots. Ferrer just doesn’t believe he belongs in the top tier. And until today, Murray has never shown anything close to mental strength.


Ben Pronin Says:

And naming 3 more players for a total of 6 doesn’t counter my overall point. Mentally speaking, the field is extremely weak.


Daniel Says:

Indoor will favor Murray first serve as well.

Wow, another magic shot in tht corner


conty Says:

So I say, even if initially the delay, roof closing, favors Federer, in the long run, going 4-5 sets favors Murray, imo. Roof closing doesn’t matter as much as other …uh possible factors. Fed needs an ace exhibition day and keeping points shorter.


alok Says:

No one’s mentioned the bad line calling. In the first set, Fed hit an ace, which was called a fault, he had to replay the point and he went on the get broken. There was another bad call when he hit the ball in and had to replay the point. The first bad call caused him to lose the game. line calls as bad as Karlovic match.


Ben Pronin Says:

In all fairness, I don’t think it’s a conspiracy to help Murray. There have been bad line calls in a ton of matches these past 2 weeks, particularly the last one.


Lisa Says:

You can clearly see that the closed roof quickly favours Federer’s game


marrisv Says:

Murray is a very good indoor player as well. He has very quick reflexes and can handle / redirect oace very well… So, I don’t think it gives that much of an advantage to fed.


st4r5 Says:

Under closed roof, it will become an exhibiton of serve


marrisv Says:

^ meant pace


conty Says:

what a return from Fed!

oh, murray fell down.

deuce


Daniel Says:

God’s punishment. He was trying to hit into Fed’s again and fell on his !b$&t


st4r5 Says:

breakpoint for Fed!


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Roger is having Murray in his string. It would be a pity if he lets him go.


conty Says:

Federer has to be able to break Murray.

omg. bp Federer, murray needs an ace.


st4r5 Says:

back to deuce


Daniel Says:

It was 40-0 Murray and now BP.


conty Says:

as good as an ace for Muzz. deuce


st4r5 Says:

nasty return and nasty forehand follow up


st4r5 Says:

back to deuce again :(


marrisv Says:

Great serving on the ad side by Murray


conty Says:

yep monster ACE saves another bp for Andy


st4r5 Says:

breakpoint again, c’mon Fed take it!


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Roger running around on the second serve. He has spotted that Murray repeatedly going to for a high BH kick serve.


st4r5 Says:

crazy back to deuce again!


Huh Says:

”Djokowins Says:
Only rain can save Federer now.

He cannot compete even with Murray when it comes to outdoor tennis.”

well said, the FO 11 fed vs djoko semi comes to mind reading your comment(and also the IW 2012 semi vs nadal). and moreover, the second set won by fed in this match was also in indoor condition!

what a bad outdoor player fed really is! now i’m joining you in smokin too(whatever you smoke while writing here or watching tennis)!!!


conty Says:

Murray is showing mental strength. wow


Daniel Says:

Federer’s movement is great


st4r5 Says:

deuce again…. this is forever


Nirmal Kumar Says:

I hope Roger does not lose his service rhythm by playing long service game on Murray’s serve. It cost him the 1st set.


Daniel Says:

This game may be the game of the match


st4r5 Says:

C’mon Fed! This is your chance


st4r5 Says:

breakpoint


st4r5 Says:

deuce again


st4r5 Says:

breakpoint again hahahaha


marrisv Says:

Boy, Murray needs this game…


Ben Pronin Says:

This is the third super long Murray service game. Ridiculous.


sub023 Says:

Fed just cannot convert BPs.


Daniel Says:

My God. I think i’ll prefer if Murray hits a firat serve in BP, at least those Fed is returning better.


marrisv Says:

What a forehand…. Murray showing some real fight…..


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Roger playing right tennis. Just faltering slightly in execution. But much better than giving rhythm to Murray.


Lisa Says:

Brilliant play by Murray….


Daniel Says:

10th deuce, 18 min


Daniel Says:

Line shot!


conty Says:

OMG! Federer


Ben Pronin Says:

Wow, that is just unfortunate.


Brando Says:

@ben: del potro cannot rally more than 3 shots? What has that got to do with his mental ability? And ferrer struggles due to the limitation of his game- those guys are just more talented and have bigger weapons. EVERYONE KNOWS he is a fighter! That’s why people love and respec him- despite the others greater firepower he’s still a able to compete Against them due to sheer fight! Sorry I completely disagree!


st4r5 Says:

welcome to indoor tennis Andy! Fed got the break


Daniel Says:

FINALLYYYYYYY


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Roger at his very best in 1st strike tennis. Breaks Murray.


conty Says:

Brutal, Brutal


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Roger needs to consolidate. The set is now in his racquet.


conty Says:

Can Federer hold after that effort to break?


Brando Says:

POOR ANDY!


Daniel Says:

Murray missing some shots he wasn’t missing.


st4r5 Says:

yes he can hold, this is indoor and this is grass


Nirmal Kumar Says:

This is TMF.


Daniel Says:

5-2 Fed!


conty Says:

fed holds…not that easily though.


Ben Pronin Says:

Brando, Ferrer has a great h2h against Del Potro simply because Del Potro gets too frustrated with all the shots Ferrer gets back. He loses a challenge or gets a bad call or whatever else and he completely collapses against, say, Federer. He had one unbelievable tournament, sure. And had he not gotten injured he probably would be doing a lot better right now. But since his injury, his mental resilience has reverted to what it was before he won the US Open. Good player, but not great.

And Ferrer fights, yes. But that doesn’t mean he’s mentally tough or strong. How many sets did he blow against Nadal on clay this year? Or against Murray just this past week at Wimbledon? What about his abysmal h2h against Federer, despite the fact that there have been a few matches where Ferrer could’ve definitely gotten the win but was too tight to do it. You’re discrediting him big time by saying he doesn’t have the tools to beat these guys. He definitely does, and he’s done it. He beat Murray at the French, Nadal twice at hc slams. And he has a close h2h against Djokovic, although not at the slams. His bigger problem is his mental fragility.


Daniel Says:

Murray is making magic in every return offense by Fed. He has being able to block those back all the time.


Brando Says:

‘this is indoor and this is grass’-THANK YOU! As tim henman has mntioned on air- SINCE the roof has come on Feds ball-striking has been clean and crisp and the error count has dropped greatly! why? Well the elimination of the elements ha CERTAINLY helped!


Daniel Says:

Wow, amother 40-0 love game?


Daniel Says:

Murr say not this time. Fed serving for the set


conty Says:

reluctantly have to agree with Ben Pronin on Ferrer…and sadly, sadly on Delpo, since his comeback after major injury. : ((


Brando Says:

@ben: I’ll get back to you on this one.


Daniel Says:

This is it #2. Aceeeeee


Lisa Says:

May or may, Closed Roof does the Magic for Federer….


marrisv Says:

Come on Andy, u can do it in 5


st4r5 Says:

Yes Brando – this is indoor and this is grass, under indoor conditions, Fed’s senses work better and he can play the game just by his instinct and talents


Daniel Says:

Fed 1 set from tennis nirvana!!


alok Says:

The elimination of the elements helps both players. Murray finds it tough to play in windy conditions, but Fed’s not affected. Give Rog some credit for being the better player at the moment and finding his game. He did that in the second set. Bad line calls in the first set gave Murray a break.


Brando Says:

Fed is the BEST on GRASS or INDOOR- BUT here no doubt has the roof helped him for sure- it’s helped him eliminate the issues he had earlier in the match!


jamie Says:

Murray sh*tting the bed in a slam final.

Never in doubt.


Andrew Miller Says:

Murray is a solid indoor player. Set 4 is not a given for Federer. Both still playing high level.


st4r5 Says:

Fed is on attact mode


conty Says:

That was a tough set for Federer to win, much tougher than set 3 score reflects.

Could be a let-down here. Murray going to play all-out now…must- win set for him.


jamie Says:

The last good slam final was the AO this year. Very entertaining 5 setter. This is rubbish. Duck put up a better fight 3 years ago here at Wimbledon. ZZZzzzzzzzzzz.


st4r5 Says:

Murray holds


Daniel Says:

No walkabout Fed, hold serve for a solid start of the set.


alok Says:

@jamie, this is a better final than 2011. That was a rubbish match.


jamie Says:

The only way Murray wins a slam is if he plays a clown in the final ala Berdych, Tsonga, Soderling, etc.


conty Says:

have yet to hear the fat lady sing anything yet.


alok Says:

Rog cannot mess up in this set becoz he’s serving second.


dc Says:

Had Murray not irritated Fed by aiming at him while hitting the passing shot; the match would have been over by now.

During the SF, Murray targeted Tsonga similarly and Tsonga was in pain for a few minutes.

Shame on Murray for playing like an irritable school kid.


jamie Says:

This is cr@p.

Murray is a sad sack of sh*t in slam finals.


st4r5 Says:

wow danger situation


Daniel Says:

Attacking Murray earning BP. Ace Fed!!


conty Says:

BP Murray


jamie Says:

@conty

Adele is getting read to sing.


conty Says:

missed chance, andy.

deuce


jamie Says:

@conty

Adele is getting ready to sing.


st4r5 Says:

C’mon Fed, you can do it in 4


Daniel Says:

Like it!


st4r5 Says:

wow solid forehand by Fed


Daniel Says:

Kkkkkkk Jamie, priceless


st4r5 Says:

Ouww Murray double faulting


Daniel Says:

First Murray DF, at least in the first point


Andrew Miller Says:

Murray level remains high and he’s staying aggressive. That’s a good sign for someone who’s down in the count to show some fightback. Reality is that Federer’s level likely to drop a little, and if Muray’s “right there” he can make this set a tough one. He really doesn’t have a choice.


Daniel Says:

And then an second serve ace, nice


Brando Says:

Andy’s shoulders are slumping here- feeling sad!:-(


jamie Says:

Nole holds TWO slams now(USO and AO) but it will be Federer who will only hold one slam who will be #1.

Ranking system sucks.

The players that currently holds 2 slams should be #1.


Brando Says:

Andy jus needs to hold in here- thank god he won the game!


jamie Says:

The player that currently holds 2 slams should be #1. Not the one who will only hold 1 slam.


Daniel Says:

Bad miss Fed. Time to prolong the game and test Murray’s nerve. He was tryin a top spin angle forehand but it was too much.


st4r5 Says:

Fed’s level did drop a bit by judging from his unforce errors coming from his forehand in the last two games…


jamie Says:

This was NID. Olderer needs to play indoors to win a slam. Oh and play Mr. Bottler from Scotland as well.

Last time Olderer won a slam he played Murray in the final as well.


Daniel Says:

But if the Player holds 1 Slam, 1 Master cup (75% poonts of a Slam) and 1 more MS than the other he deserces #1. Go check the ATP rankings Jamie, Fed holds 7 titles without Wimby, Djoko 4. If Fed wins he will hold 8


st4r5 Says:

what is wrong with all these youngsters now adays? it seems very difficult for them to defeat an old man


Daniel Says:

Djoko: 1000 Montreal + 2000 US Open + 2000 AO + 1000 miami: 6000 pta
Fed: 1000 Paris + 1500 Masters Cup + 1000 IW + 1000 Madrid + 2000 Wimby: 6500 pts

Only the important tourneys


Daniel Says:

2 BP’s. This is IT #3


Huh Says:

”jamie Says:
@conty

Adele is getting ready to sing.”

LOL ;)


Daniel Says:

Amazing!!!!!


alok Says:

@dc, yeah, Murray hit Tsonga very hard. Jo was on the ground for a few minutes. Today Fed nearly lost his head when the ball brushed by his neck. Murray not nice. Did Murray hold up his racket? I didn’t notice anything.


st4r5 Says:

Fed breaks


Daniel Says:

3 more games!!!!


the mind reels Says:

Unbelievable backhand to break Murray! Wow.


Lisa Says:

WOOOOOWWWWWWW!!!!!


victor Says:

majestic backhand
vintage roger


jamie Says:

@st4r5

Federer had the stars aligned at this slam. The moment Nadull lost to Rosol it was obvious. Plus Nole had the flu….

This wimbledon will be olderer’s swan song though.

His last slam.

Full circle.

Began at wimbledon and ends at wimbledon as well.


st4r5 Says:

I think it wasn’t intentional by Murray to hit it at Fed’s head…. but now Murray is in trouble


Brando Says:

Times like these that you miss rafa or nole when fed is playing like this!


alok Says:

@jamie, why trash talk Fed?You bitter becoz Rog beat Nole?


Daniel Says:

The drop volley is working perfectly.


conty Says:

double fault. murray’s chance


Huh Says:

lovin it!

fed deserves to win, c’mon!!!


Daniel Says:

This long shot from Murray may cost him the match. It would be 15-40


Brando Says:

Oh no!!!!


alok Says:

Geez, so much jealousy. I thought Nole had a cold? he got cold and flu? LOL.


Daniel Says:

2 more games. OMG!!! Hope he gets an insurance Break just in case. If he has to serve for the title will be tense


WTF Says:

At least Murray broke ONE duck: winning a set in a GS final.

Now his record in sets won is 1-12.


st4r5 Says:

This is proof that Fed is GOAT, it takes 5 to 6 years age different to trouble him and even that, sometimes Fed is the one who troubles them hahahaha…. and this includes Djokovic and Nadal…


marrisv Says:

C’mon Murray….lit is just one break…


jamie Says:

This is like Pete at the USO getting lucky 10 years ago.


Daniel Says:

Make a move Fed!!!


st4r5 Says:

Fed is GOAT, GOAT = God Of Awesome Tennis


squirrel Says:

wow,what a loser jamie!just stfu!


Daniel Says:

Next hold is pivotal for Fed he needs to make 5


the mind reels Says:

It’s never over ’til it’s over, people. Federer two holds away.


marrisv Says:

C’mon Murray….. Go for your shots


TampaFl Says:

jamie – go to your psychic …


sub023 Says:

I see someone is becoming very sour about this whole situation :) Maybe you should know that this match is still far from over.


st4r5 Says:

shank forehand from Fed


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Shank BH from Roger there. He should look for body serve now.


Kimmi Says:

federer nervous..needs to hold here. c’mooon


st4r5 Says:

yes Fed holds


TampaFl Says:

wow – what a drop…..


Daniel Says:

5-3. 1 more game…


Kimmi Says:

holds! phew!


Andrew Miller Says:

Federer flubbed that shot to make it 30-30, showing some nerves and giving Murray encouragement. Murray went for too much to go down 30-40 and give Federer the chance to win the game, now 5-3 Federer.


TampaFl Says:

Brits will get drunk tonight….


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Fantastic serving by Roger. The heights this guy can go within a match is ridiculous.


marrisv Says:

C’mon andy…..hold


jamie Says:

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz


victor Says:

time is about to come guys
i am about to cry ,please roger win this now


jamie Says:

Watch Murray get broken for the match.


Daniel Says:

Out bu a hair


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Roger should have a hit or miss tennis at Murray’s serve now. He is at very good rhythm in his serve. Try to play offensive in Murray’s game and get over it quickly. Just like Rasol did against Nadal. Don’t give rhythm to Murray.


st4r5 Says:

two forehand errorrs from Fed


Daniel Says:

Another forehand close o the lines. Fed is rushing this game, but he is right. Have to attack


WTF Says:

jamie Says:

“This is like Pete at the USO getting lucky 10
years ago.”

Pete retired after that one. And he was the same age as Roger now. I wonder if Roger will follow him?


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Roger, just let this game go. You can serve it out.


Daniel Says:

Nirmal os exactly qhat fed os doing but missed 2 fh


Daniel Says:

2 points away


st4r5 Says:

deuce


conty Says:

Skeezer, where are you?


TampaFl Says:

watch out guys ……deuce…..it can be over quick


Nirmal Kumar Says:

WTF, for me it would be stupid for Roger to retire. But on the otherhand, imaging a guy retire as No 1 in the world. Not sure if it had happened before in tennis.


Daniel Says:

Murray serve vanined


Andrew Miller Says:

Federer’s disguise of shot is under-estimated. His shots are unpredictable, which has given the sense that he can close it out this game. Why serve it out when you don’t have to.


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Daniel, it’s ok if he misses. I don’t what Murray to get into any rhythm now. That’s more important.


st4r5 Says:

Fed will serve for the match


Daniel Says:

This is IT #4. Serving for the title


marrisv Says:

Come on Andy ……. Break now….


conty Says:

DRUM ROLL


TampaFl Says:

Fed – Serve it out and make our day…


jamie Says:

I miss Nole is slam finals. THIS SUCKS.


Andrew Miller Says:

Well done by Murray! Credit to Murray for seeing he may yet push the set open, even on the brink of what seems the inevitable, he is holding out some hope that it may not be.


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Good that Roger let it go, rather than waste another 15 mins and lose the game to Murray. That would have been bad.

Now the match is in his racquet. Hope he finds 4 first serves.


st4r5 Says:

it’s okay, the GOAT wants to make it on his serve


conty Says:

Fans want a 5th


sub023 Says:

Well, that’s about as sour as you can get :P


Kimmi Says:

The hand is going to be so heavy for rog….hope he does it here


Huh Says:

I can see the frustration of luckovic fan jamie who’s bitter about nadal and fed puttin luckovic in his rightful place at FO and WO respectively, hahaha! love how the luckovic fan were dreamin of nole slam, lol!


victor Says:

what if andy produces magic and break federer
god please help roger


WTF Says:

Nirmal Kumar Says:

“WTF, for me it would be stupid for Roger to retire. But on the otherhand, imaging a guy retire as No 1 in the world. Not sure if it had happened before in tennis.”

You’re right. He has better chances of winning more slams than Pete did at 31.

I’m not sure if rankings were in place when Borg retired, but he was doing well.

Justine Henin retired when she was #1 by a large margin. She did return however, unsuccessfully.


Kimmi Says:

first point to muzza!


st4r5 Says:

0-15


st4r5 Says:

15 all folks


Kimmi Says:

LOB! out Phew!


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Murray has the lob in his racquet. slight luck for Roger there.


conty Says:

lovely kate and pippa in the royal box


st4r5 Says:

30-15 now


Andrew Miller Says:

Can I just say that Duchess Middleton is a GREAT TENNIS FAN?! I credit her as much as Lendl.


Daniel Says:

Champion ace. Wowwwww


st4r5 Says:

40-15 now


Kimmi Says:

Hit the line…c’mon roger


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Roger on the cusp of one of the greatest achivement in open era tennis.


jamie Says:

This is the last slam for Roger Tarantino.


st4r5 Says:

40-30


TampaFl Says:

WHOOOOOO HOOOOOO – Fed gets his 17


st4r5 Says:

Fed is GOAT


Nirmal Kumar Says:

He has done it. For me, the greatest achievement in open era tennis.


st4r5 Says:

HE IS GOAT!


TampaFl Says:

Are you guys still alive ????


Kimmi Says:

He did it!!


conty Says:

Skeezer……i had a song ready for you!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMMKSa8DBME


victor Says:

return of the champion,return of the goat
my dear roger federer is back

no body can stop me from crying today


Daniel Says:

Yeahhhh

All the hard work paid off. GOTA.

One tourney and change everything, #1, 17th, 7th Wimbledon. Amazing


st4r5 Says:

An old man gets number one ranking again


jamie Says:

Enjoy it mofo.

You won’t get lucky again at a slam.


st4r5 Says:

The old man gets number one ranking again


Brando Says:

POOR POOR ANDY-FEEL HEARTBROKEN FOR HIM:-(


Daniel Says:

Grand Slam champion after 30, father an #1.


Nirmal Kumar Says:

No shame for Murray. I think from the end of 2nd set, this is the best Tennis Roger played in any of his GS finals. Murray played great tennis. He never went away. This was a match of highest quality. And Roger raised the bar of his level of tennis like never before.


Humble Rafa Says:

Congratulations to the Arrogant One.

Mr. Lady Forehand was a mental midget today. Forehand sucked.

-From the future GOATest to current GOATest.


conty Says:

Heart breaking for Murray again. hardly can stand how he must feel.


Daniel Says:

Just remarkable to live in this ERamA and be able to watch it all unfolds. One for the ages.

Poor Murray, better luck next time. Hope he doesn’t fold and just go one step further.


conty Says:

Murray played very well but Federer pulled another rabbit outta his hat.


WTF Says:

Congrats to Roger for 17th slam and #1.

But for me the guy holding 2 slams is still the best player in the world over a guy holding 1 slam, in spite of what the computer says.

This isn’t sour grapes or anything, just saying.


jamie Says:

Four slam finals lost now.

Mr. bottler.


st4r5 Says:

Yes I agree Humble Rafa that Fed’s tennis is arrogant, because all other tennis styles must bow down before his


conty Says:

His girls!! I hope they remember this day!


Andrew Miller Says:

Murray played the best he’s played in slam finals. I think he has developed the understanding of the tempo of the match, and the roof helped Federer more than Murray. A lot of good stuff from Murray – I think he can absolutely make a few adjustments here and there during a match like this and blow it open. He didn’t have many chances.

Murray might think he blew it, but he didn’t. And some of the things that got in his way today will probably not be there when he puts himself in position next time.


Kimmi Says:

“i am getting closer” murray very emotional


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Just let the guy go. Why do they give him the mike.


Daniel Says:

Dave, we were right #1 before US Open.

Alao Jaime’s psych rule!!


WTF Says:

As for Murray, my commiserations. On the bright side it took his coach Lendl 4 defeats before he won one. Now that Muzza has lost his 4th, maybe the next one will be his?

He has to do it quickly though. He’s 25 now. If he doesn’t win one now, he never will. Djokovic is the same age as him and Nadal is only a year older, so he doesn’t have a youth advantage over his peers other than Federer.


jamie Says:

At least Murray ruins the trophy ceremony for Fed.

Crying…


Brando Says:

Man I feel like crying!


conty Says:

Andy, come on ….making me cry. get back on it and win US Open!!!


Kimmi Says:

How not to like murray..


Super Says:

Murray isn’t my favorite player/person, but he’s got the heart of a lion. He’s going to win one, he played a great final.


conty Says:

crying does not ruin a ceremony…..it’s a huge moment. andy is so genuine and sweet


jamie Says:

Make it all about you Andy, the crowd is crying for you.


Andrew Miller Says:

Easily the best standing ovation I’ve ever seen for a slam finalist. Novotna had quite a reaction, but this from the fans at Wimbledon really is incredible. Murray’s made a fan out of me. I hope he gets another shot and makes it.


jamie Says:

Judy and Kim crying.


Nirmal Kumar Says:

I just wish Roger and Rafa play once in indoor Wimbledon before Roger gets too old.


Daniel Says:

Fed must be really happy holding this trophy. He was just too good of a player to not win anymore Slam.


Humble Rafa Says:

Crying only ruins the ceremony if you are the Arrogant One. Others crying is okay.


conty Says:

twins are bored out of their minds LOL daddy talking and talking tee hee…clap, come on clap for daddy! aw so sweet


Andrew Miller Says:

“Andy may have lost the match but he won hearts” – Chris Fowler. Well-articulated, nice comment from Fowler. Accurate I think.


conty Says:

poor lendl too


Nirmal Kumar Says:

I think Murray understood the Slam tennis in this tournament more than before. He an get it done very soon.


st4r5 Says:

I get a feeling that Humble Rafa is a secret admirer of the Arrogant One hahahaha


jamie Says:

Lendl almost crying …ouch.


st4r5 Says:

This is indoor and this is grass, hence, it is Fed’s backyard…


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Can Roger overtake Sampras weeks record for No 1 now or does he only tie before Olympics?


conty Says:

not surprising you lose your sense of humor at this point HR. I’m sure you’ll get rid of the bitterness and start being funny again. you are a good sport.


conty Says:

jamie, no way are Mirka and Federer ever getting divorced! that’s one jealous psychic lol…


WTF Says:

Super Says:

“Murray isn’t my favorite player/person, but he’s got the heart of a lion. He’s going to win one, he played a great final.”

They’ve been saying this for 5 years now, maybe even longer. He was hyped since he was 18. “He’s too good a player to not have a slam,” “Next year will be his year”, “He will win one at some point.. eventually”. ETC.

I think I’m about ready to give up on him. He’s threatened to win too many slams now, but that’s all it is: threats. When he makes the big date he implodes. Andy Murray is the player who cried wolf.

Win one, then I’ll congratulate him. Until then, I’m not going to feed the hype any more. Any time he plays against Fed, Nole, or Rafa I will call him the underdog.

I used to think he would get one eventually. I’m no longer certain of that, and this certainty continues to erode year after year.


squirrel Says:

Im so ecstatic about Fed’s win!but i gotta say,i know who ill be rooting for come USO aside from Fed,it’s definitely gonna be Andy Murray!just love his determination throughout the match and especially his speech.first time i felt his heart as a tennis player and im a fan now!


Gannu Says:

This is just a special moment for all teh die hard fans of federer who never stopped believing in him….its a moment to cherish all our support and this victory for our hope….Feel very bad and painful for murray… that presnetation would have broken down even the toughest of everyone…murray u willwin one day…. best wishes… congrats all fed fans


tennisfansince76 Says:

congratulations to Murray. he played well. he went for his shots. he had some chances. better luck nxt time. this certainly does make this the most interesting year in tennis for a while. first time since 2005 that there is not a 2 slam winner after wimbledon. Djoko won the HC quarter w/ Nadla and federer tied for 2nd behind him. Nadal won the clay qtr. now Fed has won the grass qtr. the american HC and the european indoor qtrs will determine #1.


WTF Says:

Four years ago, he scored his first win over Nadal (the best player in the world at the time) at the US Open SF. At that point I conceded, he is due. He’s destined to win one, if not this year then the next. Who’d have thought four years later he still hasn’t won one?

He is behind Nole in slams by 5, Rafa by 11, and Roger by 17. Even Del Potro has one over him. In fact, he’s the only guy outside of the top 3 to have won a slam since Marat Safin in 2005 (!!).

There is no “Big 4″ in men’s tennis. Only a “Big 3″. The gulf between #3 and #4 is wider than the Grand Canyon.

Andy Murray has a lot to prove. And little time left to do it before his window closes. Best of luck to him.


Skeezer Says:

A glorious day for Fed fans!! GOAT. Comiseratioms to all the REAL Murray fans Margot, Jane, Colin, etc.

Just got back from playing tennis, couldn’t watch , will post later…


Super Says:

WTF:

I understand your sentiments. He was definitely overhyped. Yet I’ve never seen Murray play a good final before.

Roger pulled some spectacular magic to win the 2nd set. If he didn’t play two ‘impossible’ points, it would be a different person holding the trophy.

I think Murray is a different person now. We’ll see what the future shows.


Eric Says:

Good grief, Federer beats the defending champion and overcomes a GREAT Murray and it’s lucky? I think your grapes could have a bit more sour in them, friends.

Great match, great tennis, great heart from both guys, in different ways of course.


tennisfansince76 Says:

no reason Murray can’t win the USO.


conty Says:

well, carlo the skeptic, was wrong. carlo also said she’d perma-ban herself from posting on tennis if Federer regained #1. He proved me wrong again. amazing Federer.

I bid you all adieu (except for bracket challenges)

deepest condolences to Margot and Murray’s the Andy Murray Fans today. I will be cheering him for US Open. In my heart, I guess, it was, I did think Murray would finally win over Federer.

Congratulations to all Federer Fans.


Ben Pronin Says:

It’s Big 3 + Murray. Congratulations Federer. What a champ. Maybe next time Murray will get 2 sets.


marrisv Says:

Too bad for andy… Fed played great, rode through the Tough times and took his chances… Great play and well deserved number 1.

comfy gratis to fed fans… Enjoy number 17… I am sure Andy will bounce back..


Kimberly Says:

Grandma Joan is devastated for a player she hardl knew before the tournament began. She is slumping around dejected


marrisv Says:

^ meant congratulations to fed fans


Gordo Says:

Jamie, thhose are SO LAME. Let me help…

Fed-haters, here are some complaints you can point out -

1) Rafa or Nole would have hit a winner on match point, not let the opponent hit the ball out. 

2) how can he be #1??  He only has one slam right now and Djokovic has 2

3) His acceptance speech never had the words “Is unbelievable, no?”

4) you are supposed to quit when you have twins. 

5) yeah 17 – big deal! Nole and Rafa have 16 between them. 

6) A 30 year old wins the Mens singles and Canadians win both the Junior Singles Titles? What is happening to this sport???


Krishna Says:

Congratulations to Federer for winning #17! :D am so happy for him and all of his fan all over the world.


alok Says:

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Fed did it again. so sorry there had to be a loser becoz Murray was gutted talking to Sue Barker. My mom was crying with him.

Very happy for Fed tho.

Both Wimby winners are 30 year olds. Incredible how tennis has changed. It used to be unheard of for a 30 year old to win anything, until Agassi changed tennis world thinking.


Skeezer Says:

conty,

I got that thanks!
Very appropriate :-)


Skorocel Says:

@Ben: As for athleticism, I definitely agree the field is better than ever today, but that’s about it. Re: the skills or talent, well, judge for yourself, but as far as mental strength, it’s still the main factor in this sport (or any sport for that matter), and the fact is: there’s currently no one who you could 100 % rely upon in this department aside from “the big 4″.

Anyway, deep field or not, Roger’s beat 2 of these 4 “big” guys to win this title, which, no matter how you look at it, is a feat to be proud of – especially now that he’s almost 31. Contrary to what some may think, he too (just like Murray) was under big pressure today (winning a possible 7th Wimby & equalling + breaking Sampras’ 286 weeks at the top), but he handled it admirably.


tennisfansince76 Says:

Kimberly it looks like grandma Joan has been bitten by the tennis bug


Nirmal Kumar Says:

I thought second set was the key. Murray was the better player till then. Had few BP oppurtunities. He got a look into Roger’s second serve, but missed some easy ones. It could have turned this match for him had be won the second set. It’s not a bad loss for him.


the mind reels Says:

Congratulations to all my fellow Federer fans on the big win today. An amazing accomplishment, all things considered. Federer has shown once again why he’s as great as he is — tennis is about consistency, and neither Nadal nor Djokovic have been able to match Federer’s consistency from year to year. Djokovic may still hold 2 majors at the moment, but his results this year are a far cry from what they were last year. Fed, meanwhile, has been chipping away and now has peaked when it matters most. Talk about playing clutch tennis when he needed to.

I’ve never been a huge Murray fan, but the guy plays with heart and is clearly so passionate about the game. I feel for him today, and I do think he’s got it in him to win at least a couple of majors. I will certainly hope for him to win a major rather than Nadal or Djokovic in the coming year, as I think his time is coming.

Congrats to Murray fans for his nice run this year. May his summer be as successful.


Ben Pronin Says:

Skorocel, agreed. Amazing feat for sure, beating 1 and 4 in the world to win the title. Definitely one of his greatest slam wins in his career, maybe even ever at this point.


Andrew Miller Says:

Murray played a great match – the best he’s played in slam finals (of the four slam finals he’s played). He makes some adjustments here and there during a match and I think he puts himself in position to be up 2 sets to one or 2 sets to none, within sight of the elusive slam.

There are players who don’t have that possibility. Only four seem to have it, and Murray’s among those four. Murray is in position – he’s made a slam semifinal and a slam final this year in the 1st 3 slams.

We’re about to enter the stretch of the year that favors Muray – hardcourts. I won’t be surprised if we see him in the US Open final if he makes it.


Kimberly Says:

Congrats to federer fans, big big day.


tennisfansince76 Says:

oh yeah see everybody back here for the olympics


the mind reels Says:

I commented yesterday that Murray’s first-serve percentage has hovered around 55% in both GS final losses to Federer. Today? 56% for the match. Same outcome.

Interestingly, his best serving set was the second, where his first serve cracked 70%, but it fell way off in both the third and fourth sets, when he served below 50%. That’s something he’ll have to work on, but should he get more consistency on it, I think he’ll have the winning combination.


Colleen Says:

WTF,
I don’t think its fair to say that Murray imploded, he played very well today. In all his runs to the final, he has faced his toughest opponent in the final. He wasn’t really expected to win any of those matches,and he has matured and improved his mental approach since the previous loses. The big 3 had the fortune to play opponents a level below them en route to their first slam, beating Puerta, Phillipousis, and Tsonga. If Murray could face an opponent like that, I have no doubt he would win his first slam as well.


alok Says:

jamie Says:
Enjoy it mofo.

You won’t get lucky again at a slam.

July 8th, 2012 at 1:16 pm

———
@jamie, do you have to be so uncouth? geez, would you like it if Fed fans said the same about your fave, Novak? C’mon show some class.


WTF Says:

Colleen: If you look at how well he played getting to the final vs how he played in the final there was a big difference. Facing Federer at the USO and AO was a big ask to win a first slam. But it’s not like the guys he played along the way were pushovers.

He beat Nadal en route both times, and both times Nadal was the #1 or #2? The first time, Nadal had just come off winning Hamburg Masters, French Open, Queen’s, Wimbledon, and Beijing Olympics. The second time, Nadal was the defending champion at the Australian Open.

I expected more from him in the finals. He couldn’t manage a set.


WTF Says:

“The first time, Nadal had just come off winning Hamburg Masters, French Open, Queen’s, Wimbledon, and Beijing Olympics.”

I left out the Canada Masters title in this mix. He was the form player. The closest you’ll get to calling a player “on fire”. And Murray dismantled him quite convincingly. Then he just went away when it mattered most.


WTF Says:

Andrew Miller Says:

“Murray played a great match – the best he’s played in slam finals (of the four slam finals he’s played).”

That’s not exactly a high bar Andrew. When you’re 0 for 9 in sets played at a GS final, you can’t exactly do worse than you’ve done previously. He won a set. Maybe next time he’ll win 2 if he’s lucky. That would still be an improvement.

3 sets sounds like a bridge too far.


steve-o Says:

It’s been a long hard road for the last two and a half years for Roger Federer and his fans. Finally, Grand Slam #17 and the world #1 ranking with it!

Even at age thirty, with his back giving him problems during the tournament, the love of the game continues to burn brightly within his breast. He’s labored mightily to put himself in a position to win another major title and now, finally, he’s able to put it all together.

I’m a little sad for Murray, he played great, left it all out on the court, and his post-match speech was really touching. As in ’09, both men deserved to win, but in the end Federer was simply the better player.

He showed that he does care about the game, and if he hadn’t been playing in the era of Federer/Nadal/Djokovic he might have won a major already. I think he will, if he keeps plugging away.


Huh Says:

will, determination and belief are the 3 greatest things. so long as muzza or anyone else for that matter have these, they’ve a chance to win in their lives. no reason to count out muzza! he’s definitely capable of winning slams, and he’ll do it only if he’s determined and willing to. its that simple!

greatest success was never easy for anyone, nor it’d be for muzza! but so long as he is there to fight for it, he’s a genuine and undeniable chance of winning slams! and this is a fact!


Boxy Says:

For the first time in 17 slams this is the first time i m not too excited about Fed’s winning(not downplaying on his title). Andy came all guns blazing with an intent to win and certainly showed that in the first set. Second set became more tighter and Roger with his brilliant net play eventually sealed it.

The contest was looking even both player having a set in their bag. But then came the turning point of the match, “The weather GOds” IMO that was it for Murray as the roof get closed.

Certainly first serve started to click, less shanks from federer, backhand became more forceful(one could argue the conditions were similar to both)

It one point it was impossible to control his temper and certainly lost it which he has worked so well with Lendle. Though Lendle’s reaction never changed through the course of the entire match. He reminds me more of like a model walking on the ramp and striking poses who are trained to have no facial expression because they are representative of designer’s costume to sell, i wonder what’s Lendle selling?

Having said that i wish roof could have reminded open somehow and contest could have been more even. But who is to be blamed? Murray’s inability to adjust the conditions and indoors play? All England Club? I don’t know there are too many thoughts in mind.

Lastly well done Roger undisputed champion and commiseration to Andy Murray.


Dory Says:

I have never been happier in 2 years as far as tennis is concerned. This is a week of celebration for me. Roger’s back!!


Colleen Says:

WTF, fair enough, I don’t totally disagree with you, and I wasn’t able to watch much of Andy’s previous 2 matches. That said, it is easier to play well against a lesser opponent than a top tier one, and Andy was not favoured to win any of his slam finals. Beating nadal in a slam is impressive, but hard courts are his weakest surface and his game matches up fairly well for Andy on a hard court. I thought Andy handled the pressure quite well this Wimby. He has made strides from his previous slam performance and he may improve still.

Sorry If I sound like an Andy apologist, I’m actually a hardcore Roger fan and super happy happy with what he’s been able to achieve as well as proving all the critics wrong.


Colleen Says:

Boxy, Federer is at his best indoors no doubt, but the momentum shift started before the closure, Roger had already taken his game up a couple of notches.

This probably won’y be a popular opinion with the olympics around the corner, but I would like to see Roger take a break. He had an injury after Madrid but still played Rome, straight into the French semis, straight to the Halle final. Would rather he take a break in favor of long term durability. He has played a LOT of matches this year.


Ben Pronin Says:

To add to Murray’s slam final results: I’m sure Murray fans aren’t going to want to hear this but there’s a huge negative to take away from this. For one thing, it’s not true that Murray was never favored in a final. He was the betting odds favorite against Djokovic (it was only after that tournament we learned that Djokovic was about to become one of the greats). Anyways, the difference today was that Murray finally played well in a final and still lost. Although that’s kind of discrediting Federer, but it can’t feel good for Murray in that sense.


skeezer Says:

Ben

“Anyways, the difference today was that Murray finally played well in a final and still lost. Although that’s kind of discrediting Federer, but it can’t feel good for Murray in that sense.”

Seriously, when is the last time you saw Fed play this good against a quality opponet who played really well? Imo Fed had is A game of old. Show me a player in todays game that can beat Feds A Game?


Huh Says:

nole addict ben pronin is on a roll today, slammin everyone startin from delpo for his recent mental struggle to muzza for his loss to an A-Fed. today was not the fed whom nole beat at AO 08/11 or FO 12(where fed was nothin more than mediocre); heck, its much better than even fed of USO 11/12! actually it was one TMF performance! And as skeezer rightfully says, nobody beats TMF; but unfortunately for muzza, it was TMF today!

And the roof gettin closed at least aided in part to fed. you must be blind not to see that! hehehe, btw loved the spankin of nole in semis!

and lookin at the lesson the wimby 12 taught us, its safe to say that even rafa would have been creamed by this under-roof-fed!

i surely wish fed and rafa meet under roof next year and we all know what’ll happen then. this year’s semi and final give good indication!

and for the former no.1 nole, it’s better that he lost in semi, otherwise he’d have lost in final and his crazy fans woulda been even more mad, LOL! ;)


Ben Pronin Says:

Nole addict?

I agree, Federer played amazingly well. No question there. I’m just saying it’s gotta hurt Murray that much more. He wasn’t passive today, he didn’t go away, held firm. But still lost. That’s gotta be discouraging.


Tennisfan Says:

He lost playing the best tennis of his life. Nobody was going to beet Fed today … he was unbeatable.


WTF Says:

Colleen:

“Beating nadal in a slam is impressive, but hard courts are his weakest surface and his game matches up fairly well for Andy on a hard court.”

Nadal has won both hard court slams and has made more GS finals on that surface than Murray has (2 USO, 2 AO vs 2 AO, 1 USO).

He is no slouch on hard courts.


WTF Says:

Colleen:

“Andy was not favoured to win any of his slam finals.”

That’s not true at all. If you remember, Andy has enjoyed a comfortable winning head to head against Federer in their early meetings. He went up like 6-1 or 6-2. All of those wins coming on hard courts. So to face Federer at the USO or AO (surfaces that Murray is good in) I was expecting a lot more from Andy against Fed.

What that tells us that he can beat Fed a lot in smaller tournaments, but when the important matches come, he’s not able to do it. When there’s more on the line, he can’t do what he normally does when it’s a 500 or 1000. That’s all mental.

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