Retiring Roddick Routs Tomic At US Open; Djokovic Breezes, Federer Faces Verdasco Saturday
by Sean Randall | August 31st, 2012, 10:48 pm
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Retirement has been good to Andy Roddick. So far. Tonight the 30-year-old who just announced the US Open would be his final event played like a man who knew time was almost up by routing teen Bernard Tomic 6-3, 6-4, 6-0 in the second round on Arthur Ashe.

“It’s been emotional. I’ve been through a lot,” Roddick said. “But no matter how many matches you play this is a first time for me. It’s going to be tough out there, but I’m going to try and enjoy every minute.”

Enjoy he did. Roddick won the US Open back in 2003 and Friday looked every bit as lethal as he did back then. Though Tomic’s defensive game offered hardly anything against Roddick who just overwhelmed the Aussie in his Ashe debut.

“You always dream as a kid to play in this arena; it’s the biggest stage in the world,” said Tomic. “To play one of the biggest players in America, I was thinking about it too much leading into the match. He was serving well, so I just couldn’t find my way to get out of that little zone.”

In a great draw, Roddick next faces Fabio Fognini Sunday afternoon. The Italian also won in straight sets over Guillermo Garcia Lopez.

Roddick wasn’t the only former champ getting into a groove Friday. Novak Djokovic kept it tight surrendering just five games to Rogerio Dutra Silva. Juan Martin Del Potro needed four to get past pesky Ryan Harrison and in the heat of day Lleyton Hewitt went five sets to put away Gilles Muller.

“It was different conditions today obviously from the first match I played, the night session,” said Djokovic after his ninth straight win in New York. “I didn’t know much about my opponent. Never saw him play. So that could have been a difficulty at the start in order to figure out what his game plan is. But I played well from the start to the end.”

Other second round winners were 2-time NCAA champ Steve Johnson, David Ferrer, Janko Tipsarevic, Richard Gasquet and John Isner.

In women’s action, Laura Robson continues to surprise. A round after retiring Kim Clijsters the 18-year-old ousted an in-form Li Na in three sets to reach her first career Grand Slam Sweet 16.

“I had the opportunity to win it in two. It was a really close tie-break, and at 5-all she played two really good points,” Robson said. “I knew if I kept playing the way I was and kept playing how I started the first set, very aggressive and accelerating on my forehand when I could, I knew she would struggle.

“I wasn’t really looking past the first round, and when I heard I was playing Li Na after I played Kim, I didn’t really think anything. I just knew it was going to be an extremely tough match, which it was, and that she’s a great player.

Former champs Sam Stosur, who Robson plays next, and Maria Sharapova were easy winners as was Victoria Azarenka and Petra Kvitova.

Tomorrow, the men’s tournament finally “begins” with seeds clashing and really every match on the docket is a good one! Roger Federer meets Fernando Verdasco in a match that hard to see the Spaniard actually pulling out.

Mardy Fish faces Gilles Simon at night. It’s a tough, pretty even contest but I’ll give an edge to Simon.

Andy Murray should snuff out Feliciano Lopez. I’ll take Milos Raonic to end the run of James Blake and Nicolas Almagro to edge Jack Sock.

In the two best matches, I think Sam Querrey gets the upset and Kei Nishikori knocks out Marin Cilic. Really those two could go either way. But Cilic just played two 5-setters while Querrey has been the hotter player this summer.

CBS has coverage during the day. Tennis Channel at night.

SATURDAY US OPEN SCHEDULE

Arthur Ashe Stadium 11:00 AM Start Time
1. Women’s Singles – 3rd Round
Jelena Jankovic (SRB)[30] v. Agnieszka Radwanska (POL)[2]
Not Before:1:00 PM

2. Women’s Singles – 3rd Round
Ekaterina Makarova (RUS) v. Serena Williams (USA)[4]
3. Men’s Singles – 3rd Round
Roger Federer (SUI)[1] v. Fernando Verdasco (ESP)[25]
Arthur Ashe Stadium 7:00 PM Start Time
1. Women’s Singles – 3rd Round
Sloane Stephens (USA) v. Ana Ivanovic (SRB)[12]
2. Men’s Singles – 3rd Round
Mardy Fish (USA)[23] v. Gilles Simon (FRA)[16]

Louis Armstrong Stadium 11:00 AM Start Time
1. Women’s Singles – 3rd Round
Dominika Cibulkova (SVK)[13] v. Roberta Vinci (ITA)[20]
Not Before:1:00 PM
2. Men’s Singles – 3rd Round
Andy Murray (GBR)[3] v. Feliciano Lopez (ESP)[30]
3. Women’s Singles – 3rd Round
Angelique Kerber (GER)[6] v. Olga Govortsova (BLR)
4. Men’s Singles – 3rd Round
Sam Querrey (USA)[27] v. Tomas Berdych (CZE)[6]


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189 Comments for Retiring Roddick Routs Tomic At US Open; Djokovic Breezes, Federer Faces Verdasco Saturday

Kimmi Says:

lets hope for some great tennis tomorrow. I will be watching.

goodluck to fed!

Congrats to roddick tonight, didn’t see the match but the score looks promising. he has a good chance to beat fognini. I think he is good for round 16. after that it will be very tough.


Kimmi Says:

oh, I meant roddick is good for third round, after that it will start to get very tough.


Kimmi Says:

searching for highlights of robson vs Li Na. but cant find anything decent on youtube. would love to see how she plays. to beat kim and Li Na back to back she must have played very well. maybe today is too early for highlights clips, tomorrow they might be out.


jane Says:

I knew when J-Mac made the “tanking” comment during the match that it could very well lead to controversy. In fact I think I posted that he should be careful what he says! Sure enough it followed Tomic into the press room…


Dave Says:

In my bracket, I have Roddick losing to Delpo after he beats Tomic and Juan Monaco (who was supposed to beat Fognini). But who knows how far Roddick’s one last push and partisan crowd support might take him. Andy does not have to worry about healing his injuries after this tournament, so he can go all out if he’s willing and can build on his performance level.

Who knows if Tomic tanked the third set, as John McEnroe suggested. It’s plausible that Tomic got stage-fright playing in the packed Ashe stadium for the first time, which grew more vocal as the match progressed. According to Chris Evert, Tomic had asked other players about how bad the atmosphere would be in Ashe stadium given Roddick’s status in New York. Losing the first two sets — especialy the closer second set — probably magnified the surroundings and disrupted his game based on touch. Tanking the third set or not, Roddick completely deserved the victory.

Tomic came into the match motivated, knowing that it would be a huge win to end Roddick’s career and expecting the huge crowd to be cheering for Roddick. Hewitt said he gave Tomic some tips on how to beat Roddick (or maybe it wasn’t to help Tomic). Before the match, Tomic believed he had a chance to upset Roddick: “I think it’s going to be very big for me. I think I’m playing well,” Tomic told reporters after his first-round win over Carlos Berlocq. “I think if I play well, the way I was playing today in the second and third set and the end of the match, I can pull off the win. It’s going to be very difficult. He’s got the crowd here. It’s like me playing in Australia. You feel very good… I’m going to get opportunities to break him. He runs well. He competes. I’ve never played him in a match. I feel like my aggression and the way I play is a bit different to his. He’s a bit more defensive….I think I’ll play a better attack than him if I’m playing the way I’m playing today. It’s a matter of getting that break, holding on, believing in yourself. I don’t think he’s like the top three or four. That’s definitely where I have a lot of belief. I believe I can win this match.”

Saying Andy Roddick is not a top-level player was stupid. It probably fueled Roddick’s desire to win as his pride was on the line.

Andy is an emotional guy. It’s likely the huge outpouring of love and support from players and fans probably put him on cloud nine, doing for Roddick what it did for Murray at the Olympics (according to British psychologists). In a small way, Federer helped fuel this support by instructing spectators: “I hope you are going to make it tough for Tomic. Andy truly deserves a great ovation and a great atmosphere and a great crowd tomorrow night. He’s going to need it because Tomic’s a great player. I’m sure [Andy's] going to feed off the atmosphere and play an amazing match – the one that we know he’s always going to come out and do, serve great and compete at his very best. I’m definitely going to watch it. It’s one not be missed and I hope it’s not his last.” Roger read the situation perfectly, and gave his buddy Andy exactly what he needed.

Roddick’s fans bought tickets and made the pilgrimage to see their A-Rod (it’s likely spectators will be even more pro-Roddick for future matches, if Andy keeps this up). New York Times: ‘When Andy Roddick announced his impending retirement Thursday, Ann Morrissey texted Lisa O’Neil: “Turn on the Roddick press conference.” O’Neil replied: “Let’s go.” The two friends (and doubles partners) embarked on a five-hour drive from Washington this morning. By afternoon, they were waiting near the United States Open practice courts, packed with kids hugging overgrown tennis balls, hoping for one last up-close glimpse of their favorite player. “Autograph wouldn’t hurt either,” O’Neil said, holding up her ticket for what could be Roddick’s last match. “I think he’s a great tennis player. Every time he plays, I watch.” O’Neil, 45, and Morrissey, 46, said they appreciated Roddick’s charisma and sense of humor. Plus, O’Neil said, “He’s really cute.” “He’s adorable,” Morrissey chimed in.’

“It’s certainly nice to feel appreciated at the end of all of it,” said Roddick on being embraced by the Ashe crowd. “It’s a humbling feeling. You have twenty four and a half thousand people there to see something. It’s a good feeling. Kind of an outpouring of support from inside the tennis world and outside the tennis world in the last 24 hours is certainly not something that I expected to the lengths it’s come from.”

I suspect Tomic and his team underestimated Roddick. The quality of Roddick’s performance surprised Tomic. Andy simply outplayed Tomic from the start. Roddick played superbly on all facets, given the scope of his game: he served 13 aces and won 79% of 66 first seve points; he won 83% (15) of his 18 second serve points and did not face any breakpoints; he won 44% of receiving points and won 5 of 7 breakpoints; he was more aggressive and hit 33 winners; he made only 21 unforced errors; he won most of the rallies; he won 23 of 33 net points; he won 62% (84) of the 135 total points. Tomic’s best chance was in the second set, but still could not create a breakpoint.

it’s too easy to underestimate and write off Roddick. Here’s a stat that underscores Roddick’s heart and competitiveness: in 823 matches, Roddick has been bageled 0-6 in just six sets… while in 705 matches, Rafa Nadal has been bageled 0-6 in 13 sets (9 since 2005 French Open, including 3 bagels in 2011). Roddick is arguably one of the top 20 players in 40 years of ATP history: He has his US Open title from five slam finals (3 Wimbledon and 2 US Open). Roddick is still No. 17 in terms of total matches won, No. 19 in terms of match-winning percentage and No. 20 in terms of total titles won. He is on the top ten lists in terms of number of both hardcourt and grasscourt titles won. Among active players, Roddick (823) is second only to Federer (1058) in most matches played. Roddick is second in total aces next to Goran Ivanisevic and third in winning percentage of career service games. Roddick is the youngest American to be year-end No. 1 in ATP history. [Roddick seemed to be on a path of resurgence in 2009-2010 in the middle of Nadal's peak (he beat Nadal at 2010 Miami and went on to win the title), but was hit by the double whammy of that emotional loss at the 2009 Wimbledon final and a bout of mononucleosis in Spring 2010.]
http://www.atpworldtour.com/Reliability-Zone/Reliability-Overall-Career-List.aspx

Roddick was consistent for many years: “For 13 or 14 years, I was invested fully, every day… I’ve seen a lot of people throughout that time be invested for a year, kind of tap out for a year, come back. I’ve been pretty good about keeping my nose to the grindstone. I feel like I won a lot of matches from hard work and persistence.”

After losing to Roddick at Miami, Federer reminded the cynical press (who had been bashing Roddick): “he’s still very good. I hope you guys give him more credit than he’s getting at the moment. I’m happy to see him play really well. He’s a great champion. And, yeah, enjoy him while you have him.” On Thursday Federer added: “He’s had an amazing career… He could have gotten that (Wimbledon) title. That’s what I said when I beat him in ’09. He deserves this title, as well. In my mind, he is a Wimbledon champion as well, a wonderful ambassador for the game. I’m thankful for everything he’s done for the game, especially here for tennis in America. It’s not been easy after Agassi and Sampras, Courier, Chang, Connors, McEnroe, you name it. I probably forget a bunch of them because you had so many good players in the past. It’s been hard for him as well at times. I thought he always did the best he could. That’s all you can ask from a guy like Andy.”


Bob Says:

As an Aussie I was appalled by Tomic’s effort and commitment particularly in the 3rd Set where he definitely tanked as McEnroe said. His petulant performance in his Press Conference where he threatened an Aussie journalist from Reuters who dared to suggest his 3rd set performance was “disappointing” to his fans, said it all. The bloke is a first class loser and should not be mentioned in the same breath as people like Hewitt, Rafter, Newcombe, Laver and other Aussie Greats. I have tried to post these comments on the Tennis australia web-site and both posts have been deleted in a pathetic attempt to shield criticism from their Number 1 Male player. I have observed Tomic from Under 12 tournaments in Queensland and what is happening now is no surprise, influenced heavily by his father who exerts the same unfortunate personality traits on Bernard.
Some advice for Tennis Australia – the next time the Tomics threaten to defect to Croatia, cut your losses on the enormous amounts expended on him over the years, and accept it gratefully, and say bugger off to the Tomics. They are ungrateful losers and are not likely to change.


tennismonger Says:

I’m currently experiencing a severe bout of underappreciated-roddick-as-a-player remorse.

Last night was inspiring. Andy fully deserved the win & Tomic has much, much growing up to do. Australia’s answer to Donald Young? Maybe – but at least Young showed some effort the other night, Tomic was sub-listless, as if he was just too good to bend his knees a little to hit a shot against the likes of Roddick…pathetic.

If Andy can make it to Tuesday, anything can happen!


Polo Says:

@tennismonger: re: Tomic: “Australia’s answer to Donald Young.”

Spot on observation!


Kimmi Says:

cilic up two sets to love against nishikori. hope no five sets for cilic today.


Kimmi Says:

cilic breaks early in the third.


Kimmi Says:

ugh! nishikori breaks right back. great game by kei to break.


Dave Says:

Roddick played some of his best tennis to put a beatdown on Tomic. For John McEnroe and other tennis commentators / writers to insinuate and harp on teenager Tomic tanking the match was an insult to Roddick’s superb play in the zone as well as an insult to the partisan Ashe stadium spectators who helped carry Roddick to victory in Roddick’s house.

If some commentators believe that Tomic tanked that third set then they should also believe a player like Nadal — who has conceded 13 bagel sets in his career — tanks sets and matches as well. After all, Nadal had conceded three bagels just last year to Lukas Lakco, Murray and Federer. If Tomic tanked last night, then Federer’s 6-3, 6-0 drubbing of Nadal at the 2011 World Tour Finals — where Roger won 66% of just 81 points in a neutral location (London) — was also indicative of Nadal tanking his match. Funny how analysts like McEnroe would not jump to such a conclusion about Rafa or other big-name players.


Giles Says:

^ Geez! You have to mention Nadal in almost every one of your posts! Lay off. He is not playing the USO! Maybe you miss him too much!


The Great Davy Says:

I happened to be touch by the Tomic tanker last night. Reminded me of glory days in Poland :)


Brando Says:

@Dave:

LMFAO- take it easy on your love for rafa, the guy is not even playing at the moment!

You compare roddick to rafa, which is fine i guess as we all know you consider rafa as THE benchmark for greatness.

BUT then going on to arguing that maybe rafa tanks sets and matches is a bit over the top IMHO.

Give credit where it is due- as hard as it is for you to comprehend, maybe- just maybe- fed outclassed rafa in that set and produced the better tennis.

i know as a rafa obsessed fanatic as yourself it is hard for you to recognise, but fed can – on occasions- outclass rafa in at least a set of tennis you know.

Please, take it easy on your rafa love and give credit where it is due for once- EVEN if it means complimenting fed!


The Great Davy Says:

I could go on and on and off and on and on about rafa all day he is so easy to beating not even funny. I even try to tank matches against him but still I win, that how bad rafa is.


juljo724 Says:

Dave,
Curious as to what fed’s stats as to how many bagels he has received. You seem to have left that out in your haste to put Rafa’s stats on it in there. Also, maybe you should mention how many bagels Rafa and fed both have handed out in their careers if you want to keep on that line. By the way, when it comes to deciding sets, interestingly, Roger Federer is No. 31 overall with a 147-84 record (.636). Does that mean that fed gives up and just tanks the deciding set because he knows he will lose?


juljo724 Says:

Would like to clarify before the fed fans go ballistic, I, personally, do not believe fed tanks any of his sets, and would not turn and twist stats to accuse any player of that, which IMO is what Dave is doing with his selective stat comparisons.


Kimmi Says:

nishikori really pumped takes the third set


Brando Says:

@Juljo724:

HOW DARE YOU SUGGEST FED TANKS MATCHES LIKE RAFA?

It’s commmon knowledge, brilliantly pointed out by Dave, that rafa has a tendency to tank matches and quit when the going gets tough.

IF ANYTHING dave was gracious and generous by merely suggesting that rafa tanks matches- as opposed to outright pointing it out.

But that’s just Dave- all class, without a hint of prejudice against any player.

Fed is just greatness personified. The epitome of what personifies tennis at it’s most exhilarating.

Add to that his humility, class and generous spirit as an individual it is clear that he is GREATER than the game and probably the most loved individual since at least GANDHI!

I think switzerland should take out the cross in its flag and replace it with an image of fed’s face, as he more than anything before deserves to be celebrated and paraded in such a manner.

long live king fed!


blah Says:

Only Switzerlands flag? Blasphemy! Every flag should have his face on the front with the words “clay is not a tennis surface” written underneath it!


Giles Says:

@ Brando. Yr post Sept 1, 2.29. Great post. Lol!


Kimmi Says:

muzza up a break in the second. go andy!! Hope cilic can close it out now. c’mon!


Kimmi Says:

muzza up a break in the second. go andy!! Hope cilic can close it out now. c’mon!


Brando Says:

@Blah:

‘Only Switzerlands flag? Blasphemy! Every flag should have his face on the front with the words “clay is not a tennis surface” written underneath it!’

SO TRUE! SPOT ON!

Can we, the tennis community, put this forward to the UNITED NATIONS, somehow as a proposal to the floor.

Surely ONLY SPAIN AND IRAN shall refute this- as all the other countries most certainly, i believe, shall be ready to celebrate fed’s greatness in such a manner!

I think the time is near us, when planet earth should be rightfully acknowledged as PLANET FED!

It’s only the right thing to do!


Kimmi Says:

ugh! kei saves one match point. cilic to serve for the match.


juljo724 Says:

Brando,
Consider me properly chastened…lol. I think many try to vicariously live through their sports faves. To them that includes, assuming they know how they think and what they mean (“reading between the lines” of what fed says as Dave says) whenever they open their mouth. How about just giving these top tennis players their due and respect, since they are the ones doing all the work, not us, instead of twisting stats to fit the fedGod agenda.


Kimmi Says:

game set match Cilic. great game this time. Nishikori is a tough customer.

Who does he play next? i think winner of Chardy and Klizan?


juljo724 Says:

blah, LOVE LOVE LOVE your post..LOL

For all the talk that you can’t change history, they forget that they can’t change the fact that tennis is also played on clay, and that IS a part of tennis’ history and always will be.


Huh Says:

you guys perhaps dunno that planet fed and planet rafa has taken over planet earth already! ;)

BTW the most horrible bagel and breadstick was served to fed at FO 08 by darth Nadal.


Giles Says:

Is fed’s face on Switzerland’s postage stamp yet?


Violet Says:

Why does everything always have to end in a fedal war were fans of either player are bashing or making fun of the other player? Let’s just enjoy tennis and appreciate both players.


Kimmi Says:

great matches going on at the moment, federer and murray on court. not easy matches for both of them


Nadalista Says:

Glad some of you are finally catching on…..@dave is a Rafatard…..


Kimmi Says:

ugh! bad slice error for fed on break point.


Dave Says:

Giles: Don’t worry, Nadal is not playing USO and whining about playing too much on non-clay, but for $1.5 million he’s putting aside his whining and playing an extra match at New York next March against Del Potro. You should be worried, it’s the kind of indoor and non-slay surfaces he skips playing in the Fall. What a consistent guy.
http://www.sfgate.com/business/bloomberg/article/Nadal-Said-to-Reap-1-5-Million-for-Two-Hours-of-3828319.php

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Brando: Do you have a reading and comprehesion problem, or are you just being disingenous and misleading as usual in your arguments? I did not argue that “maybe rafa tanks sets and matches”. I said that those hypocrites who jump to conclusions that Tomic tanked his match should also believe that even top players are tanking their matches — especially those with a pathetic bagel record such as Nadal (“If some commentators believe that Tomic tanked that third set then they should also believe a player like Nadal — who has conceded 13 bagel sets in his career — tanks sets and matches as well”). To be so hypocritical as to evade considering that a super-experienced player with such a bad bagel record does not tank sets — yet be willing to consider that an inexperienced 19-year old is tankign sets — show that Brando and Giles are truly the obsessed fanatics.

*****

juljo: In 1058 matches, Federer has been bageled just two times. Once in 1999 and once in the aftermath of his bout of mononucleosis in 2008, when his energy levels were down. Just twice. SI’s Jon Wertheim believes that Federer tanked that set in 2008, and I agree with him.

It’s irrelevant how many bagels they dish out, since this is about tanking.

Since you’re interested in losses in deciding sets, it’s easy to see who is putting in more effort in those deciding sets: if you check over the last 3 years, relatively more of Federer’s deciding set losses end in 4-6 to 6-7 (tight loss) and less in 0-6 to 2-6 (blowout) than Nadal. Why don’t you check there playing activity stats over the past 3 years, like I did and posted on here before.

If you’re an obsessed fan who doesn’t know what you’re yapping about, don’t accuse me of selective stat comparisons


Dave Says:

Nadalista: Only a Nadaltard says “Glad some of you (Nadaltards) are finally catching on…”


racquet Says:

Someone just tweeted that it was 104 degrees on court today. Tough conditions for all.


Huh Says:

what’s up with fed right now??? how’s he playing???


racquet Says:

hehe..Murray steals the 2nd set. Leads 7-6 7-6. Lopez never gets a break even when he’s playing slightly better. Andy was pretty listless for much of that 2nd set – must be the heat. Verdasco is putting up a fight against Fed from what I’ve seen.


Maso Says:

Federer takes the first set 6-3. Verdasco’s putting up a good fight but Roger’s the one putting the pressure on. He’s lost one point behind his 1st serve so far and serving 67% 1st serves. Gonna be tough for Verdasco to break if Roger keeps those numbers up.


Kimmi Says:

fed takes the first set..break just in time to serve it out. Verdasco spinning the balls to rogers backhand. i think roger is starting to read it better..he was making too many errors on his backhand earlier.


Maso Says:

And Roger breaks right at the start of the 2nd set.


racquet Says:

2 players in US Open junior event have been taken off with heat exhaustion. Brutal.


Giles Says:

@ Dave. “but for $1.5 million he is putting aside his whining and playing an extra match at New York next March ……”. I think you are the whiner here. The fact that Nadal is going to earn $1.5m for having some fun for maybe 2 hours? I call it an EXO as it is so described where players go out on court, have some fun and earn loads of cash with absolutely no pressure.


Dave Says:

juljo: Forget the deciding sets, since players are unlikely to tank a deciding set. What’s more relevant is performance in losing final sets (straight set, four sets or deciding sets). This is what I posted a few months ago, probably after Indian Wells or Miami (I’ve not updated it):

- Since January 2010 to 2012 Indian Wells, Nadal has had 28 losses and Federer 27 losses. In the losing final set of those losses, Federer had significantly more close 6-7 and 5-7 sets (11 close set losses), significantly less 0-6 to 3-6 sets (8 weak set losses) and no retirements while losing. In comparison, Nadal had 4 close-set losses, 15 weak-set losses and 1 loss due to retirement while losing.

- Since January 2008, Federer had 54 losses compared to Nadal in his prime’s 53 losses. Federer had 22 close-set losses, 20 weak- set losses and no retirements while losing. In comparison, Nadal had 10 close-set losses, 29 weak-set losses and 2 losses due to retirement while losing.

As well, Nadal has lost twelve 0-6 sets during his career since 2004 (he was bagelled three times in 2011). Federer has lost just one 0-6 set since 1999 in his ATP career.

This is more indicative of the level of effort a player puts into his losing sets. Clearly Federer seems to put more effort into sets he is losing than Nadal, whom many wrongly believe is the game’s best competitor. The stats indicate otherwise. Just because a player grunts, huffs and puffs and pumps his fist doesn’t make him the greatest competitor. His results matter more.


racquet Says:

Ugh, don’t know what’s up with Andy in this set. Breaks twice and broken 3 times. F-Lo to serve for the 3rd. On this form there’s no way he’s making it past the next round…IF he gets through this.


Giles Says:

Rafa fans love the huffing, puffing and fist pumps that Rafa brings to the court. He is the greatest competitor out there!


Nadal Says:

Dave,

You have to remember: I play my best against the very best only.

So technically, you should count my record against the very best !. Let me know if you need any help.


Brando Says:

Lopez, deservedly, won the 3rd set, but really he should have been 2 sets to 1 up.

He was leading in the 2nd set tie break.

Just had BP in the 4th set. He’s playing really well.

As for muzza so far, one word: lethargic!


Brando Says:

a rarity: a muzza BH DTL winner!


Humble Rafa Says:

I just want to let you know that there may be many fakes but the Original Humble Rafa is the best!


Kimmi Says:

great serving from fed. he wasnt challenged on his serve at all today. one break each set was enough.


Kimmi Says:

hmmm, murray is on dog fight in this one.


racquet Says:

Rally of the tournament on BP.


Nadal Says:

Humble Rafa – my team told me about you….they said u are funny too, sometimes.


Dave Says:

Giles: “The fact that Nadal is going to earn $1.5m for having some fun for maybe 2 hours? I call it an EXO as it is so described where players go out on court, have some fun and earn loads of cash with absolutely no pressure.”
I think you have your head in the sand here, like any obsessed fanatic.
I’m all for a player making loads of cash.
- But not when he is whining about playing too much tennis.
- Not when he is whining about playing on non-clay surfaces.
- Not when he is skipping indoor tournaments in the Fall to avoid losing matches to good indoor players like Federer.
- Not when he is skipping so many official tournaments — US Open, Cincinnati, Toronto, Olympics, Tokyo(?), Shanghai(?) — even though he has a non-serious injury (his doctor admits his hoffa syndrome is “not important” injury). Hoffa syndrome is an injury that other doctors say is 100% curable and 100% recoverable often with only a few weeks of treatment.
- Not when he is skipping so many tournaments now, but was playing non-mandatory tournaments like Halle and Barcelona a few months ago, tournaments which pay him huge appearance fees (Halle reportedly paid him $1.5 million according to British press).

Federer plays exhibitions like Mubadala (Abu Dhabi) and MSG but he does sacrifice official ATP tournaments. Even when he is ill or injured, Federer sacrifices few official events.


Kimmi Says:

murray seem to play lopez a little different. i guess because of his slice it is a little tricky.

great pass!


Kimmi Says:

there! wow! that was just a survival match.


Dave Says:

Nadal: “Dave, You have to remember: I play my best against the very best only. So technically, you should count my record against the very best!”

You’re a good comedian, Mr. Nadal. If you play your best against the very best, how come you lost seven consecutive finals on all surfaces (including a record three consecutive losing Grand slam finals) over a nine month period between 2011 Indian Wells to 2012 Australian Open to your very best age/generation rival Novak Djokovic?


dari Says:

Whew, Andy!!!!


racquet Says:

Whew! Andy through. Funny ting is some of the best rallies were at the end. That one rally on BP will surely be on highlight reel later. Anyway, he’ll be relieved to have avoided a fifth set. Have to hope the conditions are the reason for his lackluster play in sets 2 & 3.


Dave Says:

Murray-Lopez stats. Lopez won more points than Murray.
http://www.usopen.org/en_US/scores/stats/day12/1305ms.html


Giles Says:

@ Dave. Stop ranting as usual. The EXO is in March 2013, not September 2012! Chill!!!!


racquet Says:

Forgot to add that was the best I’ve seen F-Lo serve and play against Andy. He was determined to avoid going down 0-7 in the H2H. Props, he nearly did it.


Colin Says:

“Murray should snuff out Lopez” said the leading article!


Nadal Says:

Dave,

Do u really think Djokovic is better than Fed ? :)

When I said, very best, I meant : the very best. Ever. Not the very best for few months. That doesn’t even motivate me enough. Besides that I ever.had knee injury too….but I don’t want to mention that at all. He deserved to win.

And I play my very best against the very best ever.

:).

You fed fans are just too much….


Giles Says:

@ Dave. I think you are the comedian here. Sometimes a player playing his best is not good enough if the other player is better!


Dave Says:

Giles: Sure, keep on rationalizing Nadal’s behaviour of whining about playing too much tennis, whining about playing non-clay events, skipping non-clay and indoor tournaments…. yet keep playing non-mandatory minor tournaments and exhibitions where he gets huge appearance fees and can make loads of cash. Keep disparanging rational, fact-based arguments that expose the hypocrisy as “ranting” so you can close your eyes to the hypocrisy. We have seen it all before over the past 8 years, so it doesn’t matter that the exo is in March 2013. In any case, it’s an insult to the US Open to announce a lucrative exhibition in New York while he’s on an injury break from the US Open.


Polo Says:

Hahaha! Humble Rafa, is not just humble. He is also witty, so witty that somebody failed to grasp the subtle wit in his comment.


racquet Says:

Wow, I just saw that Andrea Hlavackova fired down 45 aces in her win over Kirilenko. Isn’t that some kind of record? She’ll need some of those vs Serena.


Polo Says:

Oops! I meant Nadal, not Humble Rafa. I confused one from the other.


Giles Says:

@ Dave. How many minor tourneys has Nadal played compared to Fed? Fed even played Rotterdam this year and earned an appearance fee of $1m, a tourney he has skipped for the past few years.


Dave Says:

Nadal: “Do u really think Djokovic is better than Fed ?”
I am humble and rational enough to say that Djokovic was the very best player from 2011 Australian Open to 2012 Australian Open. That’s more than just a few months. Don’t you think so, Mr. Nadal?
As well, what knee injury did you have during those seven matches you lost to Djokovic — show us some proof that you were whining about knee injuries during the period of those seven matches.
As well, don’t you think that Djokovic is Nadal’s very best age/generation rival, just like I said?

Like I said before, we cannot count any of Nadal’s wins against Federer — because
Federer in a slump/ill/injured is man enough to face Nadal at his very best… but when Nadal is in a slump/injured/ill and Federer is at his very best, Nadal conveniently takes an injury break or whines that he is injured.


Margot Says:

A melt down, literal as well as metaphorical, in the third was not good for the nerves but Andy came through. Phew.
Hope his next match is at night.


Giles Says:

The plain truth is that Nadal has Fed’s number, his all time nemesis and that is the way it is, like it or not!


Dave Says:

Giles Says: “Fed even played Rotterdam this year and earned an appearance fee of $1m”
Federer won Rotterdam (defending his 2005 title), Dubai and Indian Wells — three straight tournaments in a row. Along the way he played Davis Cup (while Nadal was slacking off), MSG exo, got the flu and negotiated with the grand slam organizers to get prize money increases for early round slam losers… and still won those three tournaments.

That’s commitment. Real commitment. The type of commitment and competitiveness you probably don’t understand.


racquet Says:

Too right Margot. :/ If it’s Raonic, pray for a night match. Won’t matter time of day if it’s Blake. Go James, go!!


Dave Says:

Giles: “The plain truth is that Nadal has Fed’s number, his all time nemesis and that is the way it is, like it or not!”
It’s early days yet in the rivalry, as long as Nadal can show up for more battles.

Rememeber, Federer is a traditionalist who remembers tennis history (unlike these young players who want easy money). In 1958, old Pancho Gonzales and young Lew Hoad played 87 matches against each other on a head-to-head pro tour. Hoad won 18 of the first 27 matches (similar to Nadal winning 18 of the first 28 matches with Federer). But Gonzales then won 42 of the next 60 matches against Hoad and won the head-to-head 51 wins to 36 wins for Hoad.

Moral of the story: Wake me up when they have played 87 matches. Don’t presume Nadal has Fed’s number at 28 matches, especially when so many are on the type of clay surfaces that Nadal likes (on Hamburg clay they are 1-1 and Madrid clay they are 1-1).


skeezer Says:

Do u really think Djokovic is better than Fed ? :)

Do u really think Rafa is better than Djoker? :)

Fed is really better than both of them.

“The plain truth is that Djoker has Nadal’s number, his all time nemesis and that is the way it is, like it or not!”

These H2H ers are hilarious.

Congrats Fed! Tough Verdasco win…..onward and upward.


skeezer Says:

NIce to see no controversies, no taking 6 hours to play a match. Tennis is so enjoyable at USO this year…..just good tennis, no theatrics!


blah Says:

The Great Davy will turn his h2h against Federer around in their next 60 matches when he starts playing his very best. Youll see, youll all see!


racquet Says:

So it will be Raonic up next. Shame it took Blake 2 sets before he made it competitive.


Eric Says:

Sloane Stephens has fantastic defense and really, really, really good movement on court. She’s one of the fastest players I’ve seen, I think. She’s definitely a future star, not that this is news to anyone. On the other hand, she shouldn’t be winning this match – Ana is just handing her point after point with these errors. Well, that’s not giving Stephens enough credit; it’s her defense that’s making Ana play an extra shot (as they say) and often from weird places on court. But still: Ivanonvic should be winning easily. Just too many unforceds!!


Alok Says:

I like Stephens personality. She’s cute with her dimples. She’s a good mover and her passion for the sport is evident.


Eric Says:

Well I don’t care about her dimples, but her consistency and court coverage are just murdering Ivanovic. She has to play perfect to win a point, and that’s a tall order for Ana… back on serve.


Kimmi Says:

berdych takes second set, he is better than querrey if he plays well, but you never know!


Eric Says:

(Ivanovic has made ten UEs in the time Stephens made one.)


Eric Says:

Yet Ana is now going to serve for the set, which should tell you something about who would have won this match already if she could avoid the wild mistakes!


Alok Says:

Ana is too busy with Adam Scott to concentrate on tennis. Same goes for wozniacki and McElroy.


Wog boy Says:

It is painfully hard to watch Ana playing, particulary if you like her:(
I am switching to something else.


Kimberly Says:

Dave, they r 2-1 in madrid. Rafa beat fed in 2010 final and 2011 semi


Wog boy Says:

Ana is young, Ana is smart, Ana is beautifull, Ana is rich, Ana has GS, Ana was #1, Ana should enjoy life if she wishes so, she is allowed to have boyfriend isn’t she? She achieved every tennis girl’s dream. From practising in disused swimming pool in Belgrade to the heights of FO and #1 in the world. She is where she is now, around top10 and that is OK.
BTW, is Adam in NY, my information is that she is not with Adam since April.

P.S. We are all making mistakes and her mistake was Verdasko, where were her eyes when she started dating him:)? I guess she was very young, it is forgiven:)


Kimmi Says:

wogboy – you need to update your celebrity gossip news. Ana split up with adam scott a long time ago. she is probably single too at the moment.

http://www.tennisnow.com/Blogs/NET-NOTES-(1)/April-2012/Ana-Ivanovic-splits-with-boyfriend-Adam-Scott.aspx


Wog boy Says:

Kimmi,

Isn’t that what I just said, that she is not with Scott since april, I think your post applies to Alok, she/he needs updates or refresh button:)


Kimmi Says:

ana stringing few points together..without errors.


Kimmi Says:

ah, it was Alok yes. sorry wogboy, i was surprise that you would miss something like this from a serbian player.


Wog boy Says:

Kimmi,

I don’t follow all the gossips….just some.


El Flaco Says:

Ana has a very annoying voice. She talks like a child. A guy can only put up with that for so long no matter how great she is.


Alok Says:

I don’t follow gossips, my apologies. The gossip I see here is about all I know of the players. All I’ve noticed is that Ana seems to not play well when she’s involved in a relationship with a guy.

@kimmi thanks for the info. She’s not one of my faves, and was watching the match because I like Stephens game.


laslo Says:

Doesn’t Murray train in Miami where it’s hot? He can’t win this against Fed.


Alok Says:

@El Flaco, that voice is one of the reasons I don’t like her. She talks non-stop. Another is the ridiculous fistpumps and crying whenever she loses. She needs to grow up. I’m a guy who prefers a woman with some intelligence, that would keep me interested in what she has to say. I also think that there are lot more beautiful women on the tour and non-tennis women.


Kimmi Says:

berdych just beat querrey convincingly after that first set. he seem to be playing well, danger for fed in the qtrs.


Wog boy Says:

El Faco,

“De Gustibus Non Est Disputandum”

BTW, that was the voice of somebody who just finished the match that lasted over two hours on a hot NY night, I am pretty sure you wouldn’t mind her voice in some other situations if you are to be her BF.
But then agai, we or love different things, world would be such a boring place if we all love the same things.


Kimmi Says:

fish has to try to get to the net, rallying from the back of the court with simon is probably not a good idea.

there! great volley!


Wog boy Says:

“we all love” and not “we or love”


Kimmi Says:

excellent! fish is now coming to the net, and winning!


Wog boy Says:

Fish is playing really well, so far!


Alok Says:

@laslo, yes Murray trains in Miami. He played in dubai, which is hotter than NY and wasn’t bothered by the heat there, so don’t understand the heat excuses. Tennis players have to adapt to all conditions.


Polo Says:

I have always been impressed by Ivanovic’s ability to talk continuously for a long time without pausing to take a breath. That’s tremendous lung power. She could be an opera singer. Except that she has no intonations in her speech. I wonder if she talks like that in her native language.


Polo Says:

That was a quick set. A couple more games like that from Simon and the stadium will quickly become empty.


Kimmi Says:

fish seem to be getting a lot of rhythm from simon. he is loving it at the moment.


Alok Says:

@Polo, you jokin? She’s a non-stop monotone, who never comes up for air. I get customer service people on the phone like her who don’t let you get a word in side-ways. One day, after trying to be polite to a customer service woman, and saying maam, maam, maam, I blurted out for the love of Jesus, puhleez let me speak, then she shut up.


Kimmi Says:

simon playing better or is it fish playing bad?


Wog boy Says:

Polo,

She tends to speak fast in both languages but you have to take into account that when you speak a second language you think and make sentences in one language in your brain and you have to translate them in another, you are worried that you might miss something while your brain is working fast to translate it before the words come out of your mouth. You are never sure whether you really said what you meant, I’m speaking from expirience. I did listen to her off the court in both, Serbian and English, on numerous occasions and as a UNICEF ambassador and she talks sence though she does get overexcited occasionaly and that is when you can see and hear breathing and talking, but that is her some like it some don’t, no big deal. You can go on youtube and hear her talking in both languages :)


Polo Says:

@Alok, I did mention the absence of intonations in her voice, a monotone as you said. That was the reason for the “except” part when I talked about being an opera singer. But I am more annoyed by her “coy” fist pump with a body twirl. It is the next most annoying sight in tennis after Petkovic’s victory dance.


Polo Says:

…but in spite of the annoying things I find in Ana, she is still very beautiful. One look at her lovely face and I quickly forget and overcome the annoyances.


El Mago Says:

Ana ivanovic is just a bimbo. one of the most irritating WTA players. and most WTA players are some of the most irritating sports-people around!


El Mago Says:

clay is fed’s kryptonite and nadal is the lex luthor who uses it best.

nadal is hated by anyone who has a brain. but, fortunately for nadal, there is a lot of brainless people in the world. let’s not forget lex luthor has fans too. and they despise super man like these blanks who call themselves nadal fans, too!


racquet Says:

Murray usually goes straight to Miami after Wimbledon to do a 3 week training block. He didn’t get the chance to this year because he was, um, busy winning a gold. That’s why he wasn’t prepared for the humidity.


Kimmi Says:

ugh! fish gets two break chances, then he hits 4 consecutive errors. next game he gets broken.


Tennis Vagabond Says:

Just tuned in and hearing again what a brat Fish is. I love his game, but he’s a douche, isn’t he?


Polo Says:

The commentator who keeps talking as if he is a great player and telling what Fish should do is a bigger douche. Who is he?


Tennis Vagabond Says:

Courier. I like him, but he is being a bit weird- as home commentators can be.


El Mago Says:

murray can’t handle some heat. Is that new? he is an even bigger whiner than nadal. they should let him play on the WTA. that way he might even win a GS one day and his fans will stop this excuse-fest. you dont see djokovic/fed fans making excuses like murray fans!

and nadal fans for all their stupidity, dont whine as much either. i guess if my fav lost as much as murray, maybe i would whine too. maybe not.


Kimmi Says:

fish losing, i have a bad feeling..


Polo Says:

I am watching on ATDHE streamline. The guy does not sound like Courier.


Tennis Vagabond Says:

Simon is squarely in the third guard of super defensive players. The first tier is crowded with Rafa, Novak and Murray. Second tier would be Ferrer, all alone. Then comes Simon and Dolgopolov.
As I was thinking this, I looked at the top 30, and I think right now, although Rafa and Novak have dominated the last few years and defensive play has seemed on the ascendance, but in the top 30 and 40, I would guess there are more offensive players than defensive. What do you think?


El Mago Says:

4 out of top 5 consistently over the past few years

have been defensive players. there is no 2ways about it.


Alok Says:

@Polo, Kerber did a dance when she beat Venus. Must be a German thing. I like Kerber’s game, and think she’ll be a GS winner. She’s a very strong woman, just look at her legs.BTW, Ana’s twirl and fist pump is over the top IMO, but nothing is worse than sharapova’s screams and Granollers painful grunts.

@El Mago, I’d like to see tennis played without the long drawn-out rallies.

@TV, Fish is being a douche? How? I’ve been watching the match and have not seen him do anything out of the ordinary.

The night crowd have been getting their money’s worth beginning with Roddick’s match.


tennisfansince76 Says:

@TennisVagabond I wouldn’t say Rafa and Nole are defensive players. yes they play great defense but they also finish very well. Murray tends to over rely on D and when he does it hurts him. Ferrer also plays great D but he also does not just sit back and retrieve. he tries to take charge of the pt and jerk his opponent around.


Margot Says:

Nobody’s “whining” or “making excuses” just SAYING that Andy hasn’t been in Miami since the Spring. Couldn’t train there this Summer, too busy winning the gold.
Temperature was over 100 out there today. Quite difficult conditions I’d say.


racquet Says:

Indeed Margot. We shouldn’t waste our time. Clearly a hater/troll type.


Michael Says:

There are news reports from Spain which doesn’t seem encouraging to Nadal and his fans. He might be back only next year to the Professional circuit.


Michael Says:

If you ask you whom I would like to win this US Open. I would say it would be the two Andys. Roddick and Murray. I want either of them to win this time around. But I do not know whether this would be possible with Novak and Roger in such good form at the moment. Novak is obviously the favourite followed by Roger in my opinion to win this one.


Margot Says:

BTW during the match some spectators, Americans I assume and USED to the heat, had to leave the stands because it was TOO HOT to watch. Lol.
Our man is a pale skinned red head from cold, wet Scotland in case you’d forgotten.
@ racquet. Yes totally agree, don’t understand some people’s endless negativity. But sometimes…


Wog boy Says:

Margot,

Scrool button, use the scroll button.

Andy all the way to final.

Laura, can she do it…..yes she can.


jane Says:

Come on Laura and Nole tomorrow. Yay Muzza today!!!!


Bob Says:

TOMIC THE TANK ENGINE

The new Children’s story not be read to future Junior Champions.


Wog boy Says:

Bob,

:-)

Actually, I liked “Thomas the tank engine”, it was good educational thing for the kids, I still have old tapes somewhere in my garage, I might send them to Gold Coast!


Margot Says:

@ Wog boy
Very good advice, so:
Ignoring the unceasing negativity which has made tennisx such an unpleasant place to be lately…
a-scrolling I will go….tumpty tum..;)


nadalista Says:

@margot,

Hear, hear…………..

Vamos the scroll-down button!!


Dave Says:

The Spanish media mentioned yesterday that Nadal may not play on the ATP tour until next year.
http://www.marca.com/2012/09/01/tenis/copa_davis/1346508404.html


Dave Says:

Meanwhile, this weekend, the ‘injured’ Nadal is competing in a two-day golf competition: the Balearic Islands amatuer individual championship held at the Canyamel Golf Club in Nadal’s home island of Mallorca.

On Saturday, Nadal shot an 81 over 18 holes to share 11th place. The leader, Miquel Tous, shot a 69, but Nadal still has a chance to finish in the top five. Nadal is teeing off at 10:20 Mallorcan time on Sunday morning for his second round of 18 holes.
http://www.diariodemallorca.es/deportes/2012/09/02/copa-davis-peligra-nadal/791138.html

Golf is hard on the knees. The repetitive motion of pivoting onto the forward knee causes knee pain in many golfers, especially those who have had injury or arthritis. Tiger Woods has had knee problems for years. Yet the supposedly injured Nadal is right now — at the moment I posted this — playing in a golf competition.

Nadalista, it’s time for you to go to Mallorca to help Rafa improve his golf scores.


Dave Says:

And here is Rafa’s score yesterday, I kid you not. See No. 11
http://www.fbgolf.com/documentos/F3523.pdf

*****

Kimberly: “Dave, they r 2-1 in madrid. Rafa beat fed in 2010 final and 2011 semi”

You’re right. But what I said is also correct: Federer has 2 Madrid clay titles to Nadal’s 1 clay title in the 4 years this event was on clay (Djokovic won the other title). And both Federer and Nadal have 1 Madrid indoor title each.


xmike Says:

hi Dave, that’s really suspicious news, the conspiracy theories circulating around the web say nadal is currently serving a “silent ban” for 6 months because of doping problems and would not play again until dubai 2013;

because no one will admit admit it, or so the story goes, he will keep on saying he is almost ready to return but then withdraw at the last minute in every competition until then using whatever excuse is needed;

at the beginning i just shrugged my shoulders when i heard about the ban for the first time but if he DOES return only in dubai 2013 it would be one heck of a coincidence

there are a ton of different versions of this story, just google it up and prepare to me amazed at peoples imagination (or then again, maybe not….)


xmike Says:

on a different note, federer, by reaching reached his 44th round of last 16 (or 4th round, whatever you prefer) grand slam match, (yes, a minor footnote, compared to all his other records), has just surpassed the 43 of connors and now holds also this record on his own; if he wins his next match, it will be his 38th QF, just 3 away from connors 41 quarters;

GS wise, it’s one of only 3 records he still has left to beat (the others are most participations: currently 54, santoro has 70 and consecutive participations: currently 52, ferreira has 56).

ALL the other GS records, including number of points, games, and sets won are already his so every time he wins a match he is just adding to his own records


Giles Says:

Come on Rafa! Win the golf tournament!


Sienna Says:

The plot thickens..
is that a right spelling ?

Iam bamboozled about him playing golf.
And the plot about doping allegations doesnot seem so far offthe realmente of possibilities.

Nadalista care to elaborate on the evidence about your fake idol.


Nadalista Says:

^^^non mon Cherie, @sienna. You and @dave do enough elaborating on Rafa for all of us.

I will leave you to it…………..

Bon chance!!!!


Colin Says:

El Mago, you present me with a dilemma. If I call you what you deserve to be called, I shall be banned for obscenity, so I’ll just have to ignore you. That is what most people here are doing anyway, so why don’t you just go away, liitle man?


skeezer Says:

^Lol yes Rafa win the golf tournament, win the poker tournament, win the underwear challenge, win the cracker eating contest.

@xmike. Another record title by the GOAT? Awesome! Keep stackin em Fed! Nice post.


Nadalista Says:

@dave, why are u so eager to banish me to Mallorca? My calling you out getting on your nerves, ey?

You are a Rafa cyber stalker, an obsessive fan who pretends to hate him. Your posts bear all the hallmarks……

You deserve pity, not opprobrium…….you and your friend sienna.


Nadalista Says:

Fun to see all the Fedfans crawl out of the woodwork…..venting their spleen at their pet “hate”, the Mallorcan bull!

Vamos Rafa!!!!!!!


Nadalista Says:

……..and right on cue, @skeezer chimes in with his kick to Rafa. Wow!!!!

Trouble is, Rafa will be back, no matter how many times you try to bury him! Lol……

In the meantime, keep haunting them, Rafa…..hahahahaha!!!


Sienna Says:

Just try to make some excuse for him playing golf with injured knees!

In my view this is the most or second worst showing respect for tennis I haveever seen.
This or not defending his 2008 wimbly fluke.


skeezer Says:

^look who’s spewing. Lighten up! Hehe

Good mornin nadalista. Have a nice day! ;-)


skeezer Says:

All hail Dave, no spewing or ranting, just tough insightful arguments backed with research and documentation. Way better than just posting “critiques” and “hatred” on a poster!


Nadalista Says:

Good afternoon @skeezer. Lovely day, ain’t it? Thanks for pointing out @sienna’s spewing!!


Nadalista Says:

Hey sienna, take the advice offered to you by your fellow Fedfan and lighten up!

Hehehehe!!!


Nadalista Says:

Hey @dave, see even Fedfans have noticed your meticulous “research and documentation” of all things Rafa!

Please keep the Rafa love flowing!

Hehehehehe!


skeezer Says:

@nadalista
U know that was for u, and u continue doin it. Rant on and enjoy scorned and bitterness wth no sense of humor.


Nadalista Says:

Oh c’mon @skeezer, you are the one who sounds like you’ve lost your sense of humor!!!

Ting……..

Hahahahaha!


Nadalista Says:

Hehehehe! I love Fedfans, they are soooooo funny!

Keep it coming, folks………


skeezer Says:

@nadalista

I feel for ya. Your man is out so u have to resort to trolling tennis sites. Nothing better to do eh? Have fun with that, lmao.


El Mago Says:

This is the problem with nadal fans. they are neither educated nor civilized enough to understand logical arguments.

now they are calling Dave names? that’s like a child calling out a graduate student because he cannot understand his thesis.

nadalista and other single-digit IQ guys. please keep your dumbness to yourselves. please!


El Mago Says:

Sweet! that nadal will be out for the remainder of the year. I am quite sure he’s done with tennis.

I hope he doesn’t have to spend the rest of his life in a whell-chair. atleast now, i hope it gets through the egg-heads of his coach or whoever makes him play that ugly defensive game.

feliciano lopez might not win any slams, but i am sure atleast he will have a healthy life after tennis. i wish i could say the same for rafa and his stupid coaches. win by hook/crook. is that how you want to play? yes you have 11 slams, but you might also end up a cripple.

I guess that’s a sensible trade-off. right, nadalista and other super smart nadal fans? LOL!


El Mago Says:

Colin :

I would be banned too, if I said what I would do to you if you so much as try to act like a clown with me. so we are even :)


Sienna Says:

Nadals passion is gone! He has lust the will to fight and is almost out of tennis.

How the heck is heever gonna satisfy his girlfriend Xis with such a low selfbelief and lack of passion?


El Mago Says:

nadalista:

dont worry, we will keep the rafa love going.

i hope he doesn’t have to keep suffering injuries and live like a cripple.

i hope you find this funny too. let me know if you want some more “funny” from us or “rafa love”. we will oblige you!


Huh Says:

time to stop shedding tears about rafa or the tears even will dry! and rafa won’t even know it! so much for your love-hate mixed tears!

and sienna, it’s rafa who’s more important, not xisca! so it’s actually about xisca satisfying rafa instead of rafa satisfying xisca! just ask mirka about this! ;)


jane Says:

Too bad: after fighting off two set points Laura hit a DF to lose set. So far she’s having a tough time with Sam’s serves.


juljo724 Says:

El Mago,
You don’t see fed fans making excuses??? Are you kidding me? Dave and Sienna are always bringing up the fact about mono and his bad back!!!!! If fed doesn’t use mono as an excuse, then why should his fans?

This site always tries to put itself forward as friendly to all players but those of us that have been reading the posts for awhile know that the real truth is that it is a fed site, pure and simple. No problem with that, just own up to it!


skeezer Says:

juljo724,

Fed, excuses? Here is his main excuse: 17 Slams. No other excuses needed.

BTW there are plenty of Fedhaters here(mainly Rafa Loves). So don’tbe putaback the there are Fed defenders as well.


juljo724 Says:

Skeezer, this is exactly what I mean. Yes, fed has 17 Slams. EVERYONE KNOWS THAT! Does it have to repeated constantly?

Dave has stated “juljo: In 1058 matches, Federer has been bageled just two times. Once in 1999 and once in the aftermath of his bout of mononucleosis in 2008, when his energy levels were down.” This is all from when I stated that in CAREER stats, fed is #31 on the list of winning a deciding set and that Borg, Nole and Rafa were the top 3 in that list. Dave then cherry picked a 3 year period of fed’s and listed those stats which you can hardly compare to career stats.

Again, I will repeat so the insecurity and need to constantly repeat stats that everyone knows will hopefully die down….yes, fed has record for most slams, yes fed is number #. Feel better now?


skeezer Says:

“Yes, fed has 17 Slams. EVERYONE KNOWS THAT! ”

Listen, I know that, you know that, but Rafa fanatics can’t swallow it. They are stuck on there mantra H2H, H2H…….

So, the reality is it has to be repeated so they can understand the undeniable truth. GOAT.


juljo724 Says:

skeezer, in the past, you accused me of being a rafafanatic because I dared also foolishly mention their H2H and the fact that tennis is also played on clay. 2 undeniable facts that some fed fanatics can’t swallow.


skeezer Says:

^I swallow it fine. And it tastes great. Yes , 2 undeniable facts for you, and yes because you bring it up again it proves the point who you represent. You only need to go to Feds wiki to look for an infinate amount of record facts that makes 2 meaningless tidbits in ones career over another seem trivial. What is more record breaking for the record books? Try Djoker’s all time record breaking ownmenship of 7 straight consecutive final wins over your Lover? All players have there tough matchups. In know way it judges there career. Meditate on that and compare. After you’ve studied Feds all time GOAT status, check back and lets talk more about how Fed @31 has beaten Rafa the last 2 meetings in finals, both a beatdown, and 1 on the slowest HC on tour.

Oh wait, you want to just talk H2H and Dirt? Sorry, the game is played on terms much broader and meaningful than that, thank goodness!


Alok Says:

This site is not only a Fed site. There are djokovic, Nadal, with a few murray fans.

Nadalista is a Nadal fan, who makes up for any missing nadal fans. Dunno why she has to be so nasty. Her comments cast a bad light on the intelligent nadal fans.


juljo724 Says:

skeezer: “Try Djoker’s all time record breaking ownmenship of 7 straight consecutive final wins over your Lover?”

That comment shows your mentality. Sure, I like Rafa. Does he have to be referred to as my “Lover” in your supposedly fair post? Your post is following El Mago’s mentality and fairness towards Rafa fans.

More stats listed, LMAO, which as you point out can easily be accessed thru Wiki, so no need to harp on.


skeezer Says:

juljo724

Mentality? Only in response…..

Its the same to me when you were quoted as saying;

“This site always tries to put itself forward as friendly to all players but those of us that have been reading the posts for awhile know that the real truth is that it is a fed site, pure and simple. No problem with that, just own up to it!”

Like you represent “those of us?”. Not true. Do you need a link to Rafa sites posing as “fair tennis blogs”? Tennis X imo is by far the very best in fans for a variety of players. Naturally Fed gets a fair amount because he is #1 with tennis fans…..so? If you want a good Rafa only site, I am sure u can find them.


Kimberly Says:

@skeezer
respectfully correct you. Fed hasn’t beaten nadal in a final since wtf 2010. He lost in the Indian wells semi and wtf round robin stages

Footnote, Between that he lost in the semi of Australian open The last final they met was Roland garros 2011

Overall Federer, is the better player. I don’t think anyone disputes that, nadal is a better clay court player, only delusional fed fans dispute that. Dave can break downhis hamburg and Madrid stats and to diversify clay surfaces and yes of course he fails to include montecarlo, Rome and of course Roland garros where we all know the record, and yes, it’s a shame rafa never played him at cincinatti, the us open, Paris indoors where the results would have almost certainly favored fed.

So what guys, nadal is out. He is seriously injured, his career may be over. Or he may come back and opera can of whoop ass or he may come back but never be the same. It’s not a great happy time for his fans, and then you have brilliant posters like sienna and el mago kicking sleeping dogs. By the posts im reading Everyone is getting really sick of it other than fed fans and the moderators do nothing. Even some fed fans are annoyed by their nonsense.

I enjoy your and Dave and madmax posts but some rafa fans are probably taking them out of context because they are so fed up of listening to the garbage posts of some hateful posters. And if you repeat the threads you will see some of it is really bad.

It is making this site a very unhappy place to be,


jane Says:

“… and the moderators do nothing” – even with some of the rude language (deliberately misspelled) and so on, there is very little in this regard. Agree that it is nice to have a mix of fans.


Alok Says:

There are good and bad posters in every player group here. To point a finger at any one group is being biased. As I said previously, I commented here one night out of frustration at the digs one poster was using at Fed. The digs at Fed are very subtle, but it’s like drip, drip, tiny raindrops, which are very craftily disguised. I thought that perhaps others don’t see it, or they don’t want to say anything, because there seems to be some kind of friendship club here. Friendship on blog-sites can be a problem because people have to put up a facade and hide their true feelings. Then when someone comes along and says differently, all hell breaks loose. Some people should try speaking their true feelings.

I don’t think this site is any worse now than from the time I began visiting here, 18 months ago. It’s just that some people’s eyes are being opened or they are becoming tired of the fakers that’s all.


skeezer Says:

Ok gals, I digress. K&J :)


Sienna Says:

Kimberly
I dont believe Dave was trying to implie Fed is a better claycourter then Nadal.
He proved that Nadal is not levels above Fed on clay.

He swowed some simple but effective stats and combined that with a some reasonening the circumstances.

So in order to not forget He made sure that even the slowest posters on this site could adept to his way of thinking. I’m sorry to see it has passed you by.


skeezer Says:

@alok,

I do not disagree.

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