Del Potro Says Job is Beating Roddick; Tennis-X Notes
by Jeremy Davis | September 2nd, 2012, 11:25 pm
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Andy Roddick extended his career at least one more match, and set up a Tuesday night blockbuster against fellow former US Open champion Juan Martin del Potro, by defeating Italy�s Fabio Fognini 7-5, 7-6(1), 4-6, 6-4 on Sunday at the US Open to move into the round of 16.


“I’m new at this,” said Roddick on competing each round in what might be the last match of his pro career after announcing his retirement at the end of the US Open. “I don’t have a lot of questions for how, why and when right now. I was just trying to play point for point. I’m trying to keep my emotions together, all the while trying to appreciate this tournament.” 

Roddick next meets the giant Argentine, who did not look especially sharp in a 6-3, 7-5, 7-6(9) win over countryman Leo Mayer.

Del Potro said business is business, and he won’t hesitate to literally end Roddick’s career on Tuesday night.

“I know this is special, this day, for him, but I’m doing my job,” said del Potro, who is 3-1 career against Roddick, but lost their most recent meeting. “I will try to be focused on my match and doing my things, my shots. The match is going to be very tough. But, anyway, if I play in high level, will be tough for both players. The crowd loves Andy here and they have respect me, so it will be a fantastic show to the players and to the fans also.” 

No. 4 seed David Ferrer, constantly under the radar but seemingly constantly reaching the latter rounds of Slams, advanced Sunday with a grinding  7-6(9), 4-6, 6-3, 6-0 win over Lleyton Hewitt, eventually wearing down the former No. 1.

“The first set was the key,” Ferrer said. “When I won the first set, almost one hour and a half, it was very tough. In the second, he won the second set, but I think he was more tired than me. So in the third and in the fourth I played with more power.”

World No. 2 Novak Djokovic conserved energy with a 6-3, 6-2, 6-2 win over Julien Benneteau, setting up a meeting with Swiss Stan Wawrinka, who likewise eased past Alexandr Dolgopolov.

“I felt from the start that from the baseline, I was very comfortable, defense, offense, in that position,” Djokovic said. “So I tried to be aggressive and not allow him to come to the net because he plays good when he’s in control…I wanted to get more free points on the first serve and today it was working well.”

Also into the fourth round on Sunday in straight sets was No. 8 Janko Tipsarevic over Slovakian qualifier Grega Zemlja.

The late match on Sunday night, not beginning until around 11 p.m. due to rain, was No. 9 John Isner vs. No. 19 Philipp Kohlschreiber.

In men’s fourth-round play on Monday will be a bonanza with (1) Roger Federer vs. (23) Mardy Fish, (3) Andy Murray vs. (15) Milos Raonic, (6) Tomas Berdych vs. (11) Nicolas Almagro, and (12) Marin Cilic vs. unseeded Slovak Martin Klizan.

Only four matches on Sunday for the women, with straight-set victories for top-seeded Victoria Azarenka who rolled over Georgian Anna Tatishvili 6-2, 6-2, and No. 7 and defending champ Sam Stosur who stopped the run of Laura Robson 6-4, 6-4.

“At the beginning of the year, I really believed in myself and had so much passion on the court and I think I’ve found that same belief in this tournament,” said Azarenka. “The pressure is there as the top seed, but I’m just focusing on myself and hope to keep this form for the rest of the way.”

In the final night match, Maria Sharapova was made to work past fellow Russian Nadia Petrova 6-1, 4-6, 6-4.

“The beginning of the third was tough and I was quite sloppy,” said Sharapova, who immediately went down a break in the third. “I’ve got to keep fighting, and that’s what I did.”

Sharapova will next meet Marion Bartoli, who recovered from a sloppy first set to dominate No. 5 seed Petra Kvitova by the end of the match 1-6, 6-2, 6-0.

In women’s fourth-round play on Monday will be (12) Ana Ivanovic vs. unseeded Bulgarian Tsvetana Pironkova, (4) Serena Williams vs. unseeded Czech Andrea Hlavackova (6) Angelique Kerber vs. (10) Sara Errani, and (2) Aggie Radwanska vs. (20) Roberta Vinci.

TENNIS-X NEWS, NOTES, QUOTES AND BARBS

BOYCOTT THAT! (No Women Allowed) – Apparently a men’s boycott of the 2013 Australian Open is not off the table. ATP Players’ Council representative Eric Butorac told TENNIS.com that players would not decide what action to take until they see how much the Australian Open increases prize money for the 2013 event. “We don’t want to boycott Australia because its one of the most player friendly tournaments. But we think that in men’s tennis we put on a pretty good show and we should be compensated fairly.” Matt Cronin for TENNIS.com then reported that WTA player Bethanie Mattek-Sands said the WTA Players’ Council was pissed that the ATP Players’ Council did not consult them about a possible boycott — because, uh, historically the ATP has had so much respect for the WTA that they consult them on things? “This is the first we heard of it,” Mattek-Sands said. So, the ATP Players’ Councils’ Segiy Stakhovsky and Gilles Simon are ripping you guys (sorry, girls) that you don’t deserve equal prize money, and you’re expecting your phone to ring in consultation about a boycott? Stakhovsky said in a recent interview that the men don’t want dual-gender events, and that in the future the men’s council would work to separate joint events, but Mattek-Sands says, “I think everyone would agree the best tournaments are the combined events.” Except, we guess, the entire men’s tour. “We’d love to sit down and talk to them,” Mattek-Sands says, like the girl who won’t take no for an answer. “It’s tough when it’s in the media and they aren’t even giving us a chance to say whether we agree with you.” That’s because the men are HAMMERING you guys in the media. “It won’t look good if they are the only ones [boycotting],” Mattek-Sands said. Sigh. Girl, in their minds they are the only ones, to them you’re just the other tour that’s making too much money. Mattek-Sands is part of the new WTA Player Council including Serena Williams, Sam Stosur,  Francesca Schiavone, Caroline Wozniacki, Lucie Safarova, Andrea Hlavackova, and Akgul Amanmuradova. Mattek-Sands admitted the WTA Players’ Council met during the US Open, didn’t discuss the possible boycott at all, and wouldn’t be able to do anything about it anyway. “It’s a tough one for us because out season is ending pretty soon,” she said. Pretty much at the same time as the men’s season? “It’s too quick for the women to do something, even if we agree with what the [men] are doing, it puts everything in awkward position. Whether they want to be on one side or another, what I’m disappointed about is we haven’t been included in any conversation and they haven’t told us one way or another.” Hey, the men’s tour just called, they said they’ll let you know how it went after the boycott.

COLLEGIANS MAKE THEIR MARK – Now how important does it look that the U.S. tennis powers banded together to stop the dumb-ass NCAA from converting college tennis to third-set superbreakers? The success of U.S. college players on both the men’s and women’s sides at the US Open is validating the U.S. college system (even though it should officially be called the international college system, since more of the Division I starters are internationals than U.S. players) as a fine proving ground and development system for kids who aren’t ready to make the jump to the pro ranks directly from 18-and-under junior play. NCAA champion Steve Johnson beating Ernests Gulbis? Mallory Burdette? Nice efforts all. After the US Open, U.S. development head Patrick McEnroe needs to meet with the NCAA and get them on the same page.

MISC
Since Arthur Ashe won the US Open in 1968, the first year of the Open Era in professional tennis, there has never been a year when the U.S. has not had an active male player that had not won a Grand Slam title. That streak will end when Andy Roddick loses at this year’s US Open. Are we wrong?…Aussie non-competitor Bernard Tomic on ESPN commentator John McEnroe accusing him of tanking in the third set against Andy Roddick: “I think he’s probably right. Third set he managed to get off to a 3-0 lead in seconds. All I could see was 3-0 down all of a sudden in the third set. I don’t think I was responding with my legs the way I should have.” — Or your brain? Zing!…As one of the Tennis-X posters postulated, Bernard Tomic now Australia’s answer to the U.S.’s Donald Young?…Alright, Jack Sock seems to have fixed the overly-spinny forehand he was hitting pre-US Open this summer, impressive display against Nicolas AlmagroLaura Robson lost 1st rd. this year at the Aussie Open, French and Wimbledon…Now that the Williams sisters are rolling with Olympic medals and Slam titles against, near the top of their games, at least in the mind of the U.S. public, wouldn’t it be a public relations coup if they “forgave” the Indian Wells event and played in 2013?…Delving into whether Maria Sharapova dumped her fiance or the other way around, we found out — that we don’t give a shit…American Mallory Burdette has reportedly recovered after a stomach virus that had her throwing up the night before her match with Maria Sharapova…The Harrison brothers beat Erlich/Ram, and Hutchins/Fleming to reach the quarters? Damn, they may be for real, eventual Bryan brothers Davis Cup replacements?…Defending women’s doubles champs Liezel Huber/Lisa Raymond were beaten on Sunday…Former No. 1 Caroline Wozniacki will drop out of the Top 10 after the US Open…What is Tennis Channel commentator Martina Navratilova’s problem with being caught yacking when the they come back from commercial? Happens a couple times a day…ESPN’s Mary Joe Fernandez teared-up on air talking about Andy Roddick’s retirement: “I’m still choked about it. I didn’t see it coming this quickly. I mean, it’s hard, two of my favorite champions [Kim Clijsters] going out. So it’s hard to process. I’m a baby like Doug [Spreen, Roddick's trainer, who was called out by Roddick in the press conference for crying]. His dreams came true, he became No. 1, he won the Davis Cup, he won the US Open. I’m going to miss him.” Subsequently Chris Chase, the horrible Yahoo! tennis blogger who for some reason is now being run by USA Today, wrote: “But her reaction to Andy Roddick’s surprise retirement was especially, and hilariously, conflicted. The ESPN analyst started tearing up when she discussed Roddick’s retirement on Thursday afternoon. Tomorrow at the U.S. Open, Mary Joe’s resolve will be tested when a pre-match ceremony will reunite a three-legged puppy veteran with his family.” — What a dick…Andy Roddick on how he and Lleyton Hewitt went from enemies to best bro-hams: “He’s probably the best competitor I played against. It’s weird. This year we’ve probably become friends. At first we probably didn’t like each other much, and then it came to the point where we respected each other. Then it was slowly like we kind of each give a little ground and say `How you doing? I’m good. How are you? OK.’ Now we’ll text each other back and forth after matches and stuff. It’s funny, the cycle we were talking about earlier, how that’s come full circle.”


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176 Comments for Del Potro Says Job is Beating Roddick; Tennis-X Notes

Margot Says:

Any other Brits notice photo purporting to be Delpotro is actually of James May. Lol what WILL he get up to next ;)


bstevens Says:

Murray vs Raonic should be a good match. Murray probably has the best game of the top 4 to deal with big servers (along with Federer). And I think Roger prefers to play Fish over Simon as he tries to extend his 34 consecutive grand slam quarters streak.


Brando Says:

@margot: ROFL- the similar long hair, lol! Good spot- hadn’t noticed that before. Wonder if delpo is into top gear or not.


Kimmi Says:

So kohls beats isner!! great comeback after being 2 sets to 1 down. kohls is always a tough customer, he has beaten top players few times i believe. what time did that match finish? i was sleeping by then.


Kimmi Says:

berdych serving great in the tie break


jane Says:

Yeah, Berdych did look good in the tiebreak. It seems like he and Nico meet a lot? Or maybe I just think that because I remember the non-handshake match.


juljo724 Says:

yes he is, but Almagro is not playing too shabby. Thsi has been kind of a back and forth between Berdy’s serve and Almagro’s forehand.


jane Says:

Kimmi, Khols played amazing tennis I though – smart tactics, served to Isner’s forehand a lot, also guessed on Isner’s first serves and did pretty well returning them too. It ended around 2:30 am New York time, making it the latest finish ever (well tied with another match from Wilander’s era)..


jane Says:

That big black stripe on the back of Nico’s shirt makes me think of a #1 every time I see it. Odd.

Midway through the tournament, Brando is #1 on the men’s bracket and Colin (Kimberly’s young son) is top of the ladies bracket. Good early picking.


jane Says:

Ivanovic’s first serve is fairly effective when she gets it in, but her first serve percentage is abysmal so far (45%).

I hope it doesn’t rain…


Kimmi Says:

wow! berdych playing so well this USO. early break in the third. he will probably win this in three.

worried if he gets to play federer, last time in the outdoor hardcourt he crushed fed.

that was so late to finish the match last night jane. i think it is only tennis that has these weird hours, i wonder if any other sport do that?


jane Says:

Fish has withdrawn so Fed will be in the QFs, likely versus Berd.


Kimmi Says:

really jane????? i wasnt listening. what is his problem, he was so good against simon!


jane Says:

Kimmi, the announcers didn’t say. Speculated if it could be his heart issues again. Poor Mardy. I didn’t see the Simon match but heard it was very scrappy. Anyhow they showed the draw with Fed in the QFs so it’s for sure.


Kimmi Says:

that wont be good for fed methinks. too much rest and then he gets berdych after that.


jane Says:

I hope they move the other matches earlier – I wonder if they can, given the “night session’ tickets – probably not. But seeing as rain is in the forecast it would be helpful if they could!


jane Says:

First time Berd reaches QFs – on his 10th try. After a rather poor year for him it must feel good.


Kimmi Says:

i don’t believe it is only his first qtr final in USO. i mean, he has a game for this surface.


jane Says:

^ I know Kimmi, how weird. But he’s now been in all grand slam QFs so good for him.


Kimmi Says:

I agree jane, they should move some of the matches. they have scheduled williams sisters doubles first at night. I don’t understand that, why not start murray/milos sooner?


Eric Says:

conventional wisdom would hold this is bad for Fed. I disagree. He doesn’t need match play to get in-form; it’s probably not good for him, overall, but it’s not that bad either. Berdych was going to be a really tough match for Roger anyway, and Fish would likely have stretched him to four sets, three of them quite close, so the chance to rest may outweigh the skipped match and chance to play against a solid baseliner like Fish. All in all, he’s in the QFs, so it’s a plus for Fed at the moment.

Anyway, I’m mostly disappointed because that was going to be the best men’s match today, except perhaps Raonic-Murray! Too bad for Mardy, as well. Does anyone know what the heart condition he’s has this year is?


Eric Says:

Wow, and congrats to Berdych, who apparently won 6-1 in the third while I was typing…


Kimmi Says:

i like his interview. he is really cherishing a chance to play federer and he says he needs to play 100% and federer not so well to win. he has a good smile berdych but he is scaring me!


jane Says:

“Does anyone know what the heart condition he’s has this year is?” Eric it was something to do with an irregular beat, but others could explain better. He did have surgery I believe to correct it, back around IW/Miami time. His comeback was at Wimbledon. It’s really too bad.

Kimmi “he has a good smile berdych but he is scaring me” – agree, his smile is nice.


Kimberly Says:

he had a tachycardia, which is a racing heartrate for no reason, an electrical cardiac issue. I only know this because my husband had a similar issue and ended up in the hospital for a few days.

Essentially, Fish woke up in the middle of the night with his heart racing at over 170 and he could not recover from it. He was taken to the hospital and given meds to slow it down but then it happened again. It was my understanding that he had a corrective surgery.

With my husband, he was playing a tennis match that wasn’t that physical and he felt his heart start racing. He defaulted from the match, drove home and it still wouldn’t stop. He was hyperventilating and i had him taken to the hospital by a friend as I was alone with two small children. His heartrate was over 200 and they gave him meds to slow it. He had a million tests and they found nothing and it hasn’t happened again.

Because of this I read up on Mardy’s case extensively and apparently he had several episodes, ranging from February to the one in Miami. He then went back to LA at Cedars Siani and had a two day test where they found the electrical issue and did some type of corrective surgery via a catheter. I thought that problem was corrected. Either way, in his interviews he said he was extremely scared, was even scared to go to sleep and had his physio sleeping in his hotel room.

Since then I have heard that this problem is more common in larger athletic men. Not sure why.


Eric Says:

Yes, that’s what I thought. This sudden withdrawal is kind of weird. I guess more details will emerge later today.

Fed is definitely the favorite. Berdych is formidable but his wins over Fed rely on Roger letting him control the points so that Tomas is able to run Roger back and forth along the baseline like a rat in an experiment. With confidence, Fed will play with more aggressive ball placement that limits Berdych’s range of shot selection and keeps the match on equal footing, instead of playing on Berdy’s terms. But we’ll see. I think this year Federer seems to have elevated his game above the passivity of 2010 and (already better than 2010) 2011 that saw him getting in trouble with big hitters, and hopefully that won’t change on Wednesday!


Sienna Says:

Fed is having the perfect build up in this tournement. He will raise his level every match.

He will get it. I feel more sure after every ball played.


Eric Says:

Kimberly, OK, lots of detail — thanks! I hope your husband remains well.

So reasonable speculation would seem to be that Fish’s heart issue was not entirely fixed…


Kimmi Says:

serena killing the serves. her opponents has to serve well or else..

it will look really bad if she starts beating her rivals 6-1 6-2 like wimbledon.


jane Says:

I don’t recognize the woman Serena is playing; I think they said most of her success has been in doubles. Serena looks thinner than I have seen her in a while; very fit looking – formidable indeed.


jane Says:

This is kind of painful to watch. Her serve is like a T-off for Serena. Looking like a double bagel? For a R16 match this is too mismatched. But it happens sometimes.


rogerafa Says:

The catheter ablation procedure is pretty hit and miss so far as I know depending on the location of the heart where the issue originated from. The chances of recurrence can be as high as 70%. In fact, regular medication is sometimes much more effective but, for athletes, that is not such an obvious option since the very goal of such medication is to slow down the heart beat considerably so that the condition is not triggered. I suspect Mardy may have to seriously consider whether he wants to continue the life of an athlete.


jane Says:

Sport Lemon has good streams of Kerber/Errani, which is much more competitive. Errani up a break.


juljo724 Says:

I hope your husband is doing well, Kimberly and continues to get better.

Any heart condition never really goes totally away and requires vigilance in followup tests to make sure it is doing the right thing. Mardy is lucky in that he has access to the testing and docs to help him.

Hope you get better and prayers are with you and your family Mardy!


Kimmi Says:

i am watching that now jane. very competative indeed. errani chasing everything and so is kerber


jane Says:

Yes, Kimmi. It’s a better match for sure. Even muted crowd is trying to cheer on Hlavackova for a game.


jane Says:

What an amazing shot by Kerber to get the break back – how did she get to that drop shot first, and then how did she hit that sharply angled volley on the trot! One of the announcers said, rightly I think, that is was one of best shots of the tournament. Definitely a match worth watching so far! Kerber’s draw has not been easy.


Eric Says:

Hlavackova did get a lone break point there, but to no avail – double bageled. Ouch.


Kimmi Says:

double bagel in r16. great!


Kimmi Says:

i hope kerber wins so she plays serena in the semi. she beat her in cincy, maybe it has a potential to be a big match.


Kimmi Says:

big match..meant great match


Eric Says:

Kimmi, already penciling in Serena over Ana? ;) Not unrealistic…


jane Says:

Kerber could use better tactics. She keeps going crosscourt when the whole court is open for her and yet she hits great DTL shots. She could use them more often. But then again, Errani keeps using the drop shot when it’s not always working.


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Berd seems to be in pretty good form. It would be interesting QF between him and Roger. I did not see an easy match between both of them in a long time, except maybe in indoors at the end of last season.

With the way Novak playing, the only threat for him might be Serena, but he will not face her. So not sure who has a chance against Novak if he plays with this form in the 2nd week.


Kimmi Says:

eric – with this double bagel, i feel ana has no chance. also, ana was serving @ 48% today, if she improves, maybe she might have a chance but that serving today wont cut it against serena.


jane Says:

Errani and Kerber very tightly matched for this early – 6th and 10th seed in R16. Bit unlucky for them. I guess it’s like Petra/Bartoli too.

I think only Vika and Serena haven’t been tested here.


Kimmi Says:

“With the way Novak playing, the only threat for him might be Serena” LOL


jane Says:

Is Kerber scared of stepping over the baseline? LOL. Sometimes she shovels short balls from behind the baseline instead of stepping in and punishing them. Definitely something she could work on that would make her life easier. Errani is better and knowing when to step in.


Eric Says:

Djokovic has been somewhat quietly tearing up the draw, but he now has tough opponents for the rest of the tournament. All respect, but Lorenzi and Dutra da Silva aren’t really mettlesome rivals. Wawrinka, Delpo/Roddick, and Ferrer (or, in this order: Gasquet, Tipsa, Kohls) are a bit trickier. But he’s still obviously the rock-solid pick for the final, of course, as he was when his (pretty easy) was released.


Kimmi Says:

she is, staying back even when she lobs. what a get from errani. she is getting to the net very good..


jane Says:

Kimmi, Errani, overall, is playing the “smarter” tennis imo.


Kimmi Says:

errani very tentantive. she plays well when behind.

ah, kerber double faults..

i thought kerber would beat errani easily, she could lose this match the way things are going.


jane Says:

Yes, looks like it’s possible Kerber could go out. Her coach definitely needs to work with her on tactics. It’s been her undoing in this match so far.


jane Says:

Errani’s already pushing for the early break in set 2.


jane Says:

Fish’s announcement says his withdrawal is a “precautionary” measure and he’ll be playing later in the fall, so I guess it’s not super serious?

And Errani breaks…


jane Says:

Kerber’s in trouble; I know it’s just one break, but still: being behind a set puts her under added pressure.


jane Says:

Oh she breaks back. Kimmi you’re right. Errani seems to play better when behind.


Kimberly Says:

kerber not going down without a fight it looks


jane Says:

But too many errors in that game, and no first serves. If she doesn’t break back, it’s over.


jane Says:

Kerber dug her own grave today; she needs a new coach, or back to the drawing board.

Errani is very persistent. Assuming she and Serena get through to meet, it could be a good match.


jane Says:

But as much as Kerber didn’t play smart, Errani did; she deserves the win.


jane Says:

Skorocel what do you think of this Slovakian fellow? Seems to be doing well here! I don’t think I’d ever seen him play before.


Kimberly Says:

i guess she did go down!

After a great day yesterday at the open today has been a bit of a downer


Kimberly Says:

this chick vinci is a real junker, even radwanska having issues with it


jane Says:

“this chick vinci is a real junker” – this phrase has a good ring to it. :) But she’s doing some damage and Aggy is not figuring out how to deal with the “junk” thus far.


Kimmi Says:

i fell a sleep while watching tennis. what did i miss..

errani wins
Cilic up a set..first time i see this name klizan
vinci breadstick radwanska


Kimmi Says:

cheering for cilic!!


Kimmi Says:

could cilic win the first match in three sets?


jane Says:

Oh you’re right Kimmi; I was thinking Cilic beat Kei in straights but he didn’t. It’s looking good for him right now. He’s done well at the US Open, I think this surface suits his game best.


jane Says:

All Italian quarters – who had Vinci and Errani in their brackets?! Probably most of us had Kerber/Radwanska or at least one of them. Serena’s draw just open up even more??


Kimmi Says:

a lot of first timers. vinci first qtr final of a major.

she has a great game. mixing up her game very well


jane Says:

Anyone know how old Vinci is?


jane Says:

Congrats to Cilic! He has a tough road though – next will be Murray (hopefully) or Milos.


Kimmi Says:

first two he won in five. nishikori in four. he is won this in three. i was listening to one of his interviews and he talks about trying to be focused now from first point to the end, play aggressive all the way. this was a good draw for him.

he plays winner of murray and milos.


Kimmi Says:

i heard the commentator said she is 28.


Eric Says:

She’s 29, according to her WTA profile. This is the first year she’s gone beyond the third round at a slam. Errani is 25, but that’s still pretty old for women’s tennis, no? Schiavone was 29 when she won the French. Italian women: late-blooming tennis pros? Who knows… Speaking of which, too bad Schiavone is having a pretty poor year. She was one of the most fun (and frustrating) players in the WTA for a while there, with that relentless dedication to form. None of this just hitting the ball around; it had to be a perfect forehand every time. And no half measures about spin!


Wog boy Says:

I am worried about Ana, Serena have a mercy, please:(


jane Says:

LOL, Wog Boy.

So the US Open site announces “breaking news” due to the forecast of rain that the Williams sisters will be playing on Armstrong and Andy/Milos will begin “shortly after” 7:00 pm; that’s good, but is it much of a change?


Eric Says:

Well it’s a change insofar as Andy/Milos will now begin (according to the updated SoP) at 7:30, whereas before it would have begun at 8 or 9 or whenever the women’s doubles match finished. So, the smallest concession possible to the forecast.


jane Says:

Weird that right now play is suspended on the Grandstand but seems to be continuing on other courts.


Kimmi Says:

milos serve is a killer. will the speed goes down a bit after time?
murray should make sure to hold his own. dont get broken please.


jane Says:

Yep Kimmi. It’s also how big it hops up. Not sure if Andy watched Khols last night, but part of his effectiveness was standing way WAY back to return Isner’s serve, and also guessing on some of the firsts.


jane Says:

Surprising that so far Williams sisters are getting thrashed.

Andy is beginning to make his way into Milos’ service games.


Kimmi Says:

milos is going to hit all FHs for sure..that was a crunch game! so calm, no panic.

murray is getting frustrated already…


jane Says:

But here’s his chance – 3 bps, 1 gone.


jane Says:

3rd times a charm – smart tactic of Andy’s to use the dropper.

Milos will have to learn not to stand so far back the hard way…


jane Says:

One set down. :)


racquet Says:

Wow, I didn’t see that coming. 1st set to Muzzah. Andy is playing very smart. 2 more just like that please.


jane Says:

Woot! Fast Andy.


racquet Says:

Reminded me of the match against Cilic at AO 2010.


racquet Says:

Andy looks so focused, kind of like when he plays Isner/Karlovic. I think Raonic is perturbed that Andy is reading his serve well.


Kimmi Says:

those inside out fhs are hard to hit all the time. murray is starting to read them methinks.


jane Says:

Milos’ footwork isn’t even close to Andy’s and he is overhitting a fair bit (14 errors to Andy’s 3). This is a good experience for him. Right now, Andy’s just a more fully rounded player – not one who relies only on his serve, or serve + forehand combo. It seems like these days a player needs more than that – add good movement and a decent return, for sure.


jane Says:

Williams sisters ousted by Petrova/Kirilenko.


racquet Says:

Yep, I concur.


Kimmi Says:

wiiliams sisters are out in doubles


jane Says:

Andy’s really “schooling” Milos. This is the best I have seen Andy look at the Open thus far.


Kimmi Says:

that was a great volley from milos. this is what he needs to do to get himself out of trouble…it is going to be a tough night.

nah, this time it didnt work. murray loves target to pass.


racquet Says:

Total masterclass. Them’s the breaks.


jane Says:

^ quite literally them’s the breaks…


jane Says:

Good point!


racquet Says:

Milos looks stunned by well Andy is playing.


racquet Says:

Notice how Milos’ serve breaks down when he’s not controlling things?


jane Says:

That’s precisely why this is good for Milos, imo; of course he and his coach should look back on this tape and learn from Andy’s play. He is facing one of the best returners and movers on the tour right now, not to mention some smart tactics.

To be fair, Milos has hit lots of errors tonight, which have hurt. Perhaps he’s a bit nervous and/or frustrated. He’s hit 20 errors to Andy’s 5!


racquet Says:

Ugh, that BH miss on set point. Now for a nervy serving out of the 2nd set. (bites nails)


racquet Says:

Jane, precisely. I think it’s the frustration that’s leading to the errors.


jane Says:

Milos is now 0-2 versus Rafa, 0-3 versus Fed, assuming soon to be 1-1 versus Andy, so he’s had a chance to play 3 of the 4 top players. His coach/team would do well to step back, analyze, and adjust/train accordingly.


racquet Says:

2nd set to Andy. In his last interview Milos said that in the Barcelona match he’d worked out Andy’s serve and that there weren’t any surprises with it. hehe Anyway, even though he only needs one more set, it feels like a long way to go.


jane Says:

I think Andy’s serve may’ve even improved since Barcelona, do you think so racquet? It was so good at Wimbledon, and clay is different than grass/hard in terms of serving.


racquet Says:

Defintely.


racquet Says:

He’s certainly become a better clutch server.


racquet Says:

Lord I pray it doesn’t rain.


Brando Says:

BAR the BP conversion, this is easily the best muzza has played post olympics. Solid on virtually all fronts.

he’s stepping his game up at just the right moment.


jane Says:

And Milos sooooo inexperienced. Like a pup facing a show dog with all the tricks in the book, and some medals too. ;)


racquet Says:

Third break is the charm. I honestly didn’t expect this tonight. So happy.


jane Says:

The break! … and the match???!!

Serving hard doesn’t always beat serve placement, another thing Milos’ coach could help him with.


racquet Says:

Yep, placement and spins.


marrisv Says:

Wow… Murray has been awesome. It’s going to be tough to beat him….


Eric Says:

I’ma stick up for Milos here. Andy is playing so well there’s not much to be done. When was the last time Murray had just ten errors after 23 games of tennis? It’s the kind of night where your best just isn’t good enough if the other guy’s weaknesses are not in evidence. Certainly Raonic needs to do medium-to-long-term work on some areas of his game, but at this very moment there’s not a whole lot he could be doing differently (other than “not making mistakes,” but Andy isn’t giving him much to work with!!). The guy’s the real deal, he just needs to round himself out a bit, maybe. Actually, I think he’s doing pretty well, considering Murray’s form is the best I’ve seen, barring perhaps the Olympics.


Daniel Says:

Wow, Murray is finally playing the tennis he should. Very few unforced error and every impossible shot he tried he hit.
Looks the semis with Fed, assuming both get there will be a cracker.
His forehand is completly different.
He is playing superb. That Olympics match was his turning point. I guess right now, Fed, Djoko and Murray have all 33% chance of winning this tourney. They are all playing great at the same time.


racquet Says:

hehe, Tipsy just tweeted “Sick defense from Murray”


jane Says:

Daniel agree- they look like they all have a chance to win. But they each have to get to the finals, and it’s early still.


mat4 Says:

Read your comments and found a stream, just to see Murray hold then break.

He made a few UE, but then the stats appeared and I saw he made only 6 errors in the first two sets. He will be a sacré client.

About the serve: seems Andy mixes more, but I am not sure, just checked the stats for this match. His best serve is still down the T in the deuce court, but his % is 64%.

Anyway, glad to find you here.


Brando Says:

@Daniel:

I’d still say nole is the fav since out of 3 he ONLY has to/ likely will just ONE of the other 2.

Fed/ muzza have to face one another and then nole the next day.

Due to the RIDICULOUS SCHEDULING, imo, their chances for title are alot less favourable in comparison to nole.

IMHO, IF fed v muzza (seems very likely atm) turns out to be a war- then you could automatically rule out the finalist, since i don’t see them beating a fresh nole- not a nole who is in form.


jane Says:

Milos is almost 22, not sure why they call him a “kid”. LOL.

No doubt – Murray is playing extremely well, very focused: he’s been everywhere on the court! As Tipsy said, “sick defence!” :)

But still think there’s probably lots Milos could improve to effectively compete with the top guys (his coach/team will have to figure out how/what to prioritize): his backhand, his return, his movement, his consistency and his tactics.

He’s not going to get sets otherwise, imo, except maybe in tiebreaks, which is usually what Isner or Karlovic have done, and they’ve never really been able to “break through” at the slams, let alone win one. If Milos wants to win those sorts of big titles, he has to learn from this.


racquet Says:

Just saw Lendl smile at that passing shot :)


marrisv Says:

Master class performance from muzzard….


jane Says:

Andy IS in the zone!!

Brando, weather could be a factor again.

http://www.weather.com/weather/5-day/USNY0996


Eric Says:

jane, very very true.

Actually, this is kind of an enlightening factoid: I went to Wikipedia to remind myself of Raonic’s titles, other than San Jose last year, and discovered that he’s been in five ATP finals. In those finals, he played twelve sets; nine of those twelve sets were decided by tie breakers, and Milos only won one of the other three – against Denis Istomin. So Milos has needed a tiebreak to win every set he’s played in his three titles except one against third-tier Istomin. Of course, a win is a win and all that, but you’re right; you can’t get that far without being able to break serve. Especially since no one’s serve is so good it never falters.


Brando Says:

milos needs o work on his movement- that was exposed by muzza today.

just like jo tsonga did in the olympics.


jane Says:

I did predict Andy would handle this match no problem and probably win in straight sets, but I didn’t know it would be quite this straightforward. He’s definitely served notice with this win! Way to go!!


Daniel Says:

Agreed Brando,

For Fed to have a chance he will need to beat Murray in 4 tops and with a few fast sets.

Murray as the younger seems to have more chance to regroup even if he beat Fed in a long match. But Nole’s odd looks good.
But I still think right now Fed and Murray are more confidant.

Jane,

Man grow and develop until 23. That’s what’s missing to Milos, that more power, more coordination, more mental developing and everything. Today’s game is so intense that we won’t be seen Hewitt’s and Nadal’s anymore, you have to have mind, body and technique to be at the very top, and “kids” below 23 won’t be ready to it.


mat4 Says:

I am not sure Nole is the favorite. I absolutely don’t see how he can hurt Murray right now. They play about the same game, except that Murray has just too much power.

About Milos: he just doesn’t move well. Everything stems from this.


Kimmi Says:

that was no contest! congrats andy.


racquet Says:

Well that was something tonight. I’m grinning from ear to ear. Just hope Andy keeps going onward and upwards.


Eric Says:

Well that turned into a wash right quickly. If I’m being honest I would have guessed this would be a four-setter, probably two or three TBs. Murray was really great today, impeccable defense.

Congrats to Murray. I proclaim myself now nervous as a Federer fan. (Of course, Berdy is still in the way, too. As is Cilic, I suppose…)


Brando Says:

@Jane:

Interesting- maybe divine intervention will do what USTA clearly seem unable to do- to provide a level playing field on the most important day in men’s tennis: championship match in a grand slam!


dari Says:

GREAT performance from Murray, the kind of match that shows off all his talent, keep it up, Andy!

Did Milos think it was blue clay? Murray had him slipping and sliding all over the place


jane Says:

Eric, excellent factoid research.


Brando Says:

@Daniel:

I agree. You seem like a level headed fed fan- so im glad that you pointed out that muzza, rather than fed, stands the better chance of playing back to back matches due to his age.

Fed’s 31 now- whilst muzza and nole are 25, quite a difference.

We ALL saw how fed struggled in the olympics final after the tough battle he had with JMDP in the SF- and even then he had a days rest!

IMHO- whist recognising that ultimately anything can happen- UNLESS fed wins his SF in straights- no more than 4 sets- then i just do not see him winning, to be honest.

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with his ability- just his age and whether he can play back to back 5 set matches at 31, and pull off consecutive wins against the likes of nole and muzza.

Very tough at any age, let alone 31- IMHO!


mat4 Says:

Brando,

quite the contrary. I would like to have 31 again… even 32…


jane Says:

When is the last time the US Open men’s final was even played on the Sunday? It wasn’t in 2010, it wasn’t in 2011, it wasn’t in 2008. That leaves 2009? Was it played on Sunday that year?


Brando Says:

@mat4:

LOL- i’m sure fed would like to be 25 or 26 again himself. :-)


jane Says:

I do agree Brando. The USTA/US Open really needs to condense round 1 and stop this stupid spreading it out over 3 days, which results in some players playing round 3 on the Saturday. I am all for condensing the early rounds and giving the extra space to later rounds, i.e., between semis and finals. I think a roof would be great too, since weather seems to have been a factor for years now (another reason to get rolling through the draws earlier, just in case).


jane Says:

I just checked, and the 2009 final between Fed and Del Potro was also played on the Monday!!

So that means, there has not been a men’s US Open final on the Sunday since 2007.


Brando Says:

@Jane:

Yep, just checked- 2009 was the last time for super saturday/ finals day to be on consecutive days.

I agree with what you mentioned there. This is far too big of an event for it not to be played on a level playing field- or at least one which can provide the athletes with the best possible oppurtunity in order to perform their best.

Isn’t that what most fans want from the organiser- that they provide a stage in which the athletes are able to perform their best?

Surely they all do, IMO.


mat4 Says:

Brando:

Indeed. You never know what you have until it’s gone.

Anyway, the injustice, with age, is that the body gets old but the soul remains young.


mat4 Says:

So, was it in 2007 or 2009? Do I have to check by myself?


Brando Says:

@mat4:

I think it was 2009, based on this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_US_Open_(tennis)#Day_14_.28September_13.29

It states that day 14 was on september 13 (super saturday) and day 15 was the next day on the 14th (finals).


jane Says:

mat4, last Sunday final was 2007. In 2009 they played on the Monday

“Originally, it was scheduled to end with the men’s singles final match on Sunday, September 13, but due to rain the tournament was extended by one day.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_US_Open_(tennis)


mat4 Says:

And, in 2009, the final was played september 14, a monday…


jane Says:

That means 4 years running it’s been postponed until the Monday due to rain; you’d think by now they’d've adjusted the schedule accordingly. Oh well. Let’s see if this year breaks the trend??

Tomorrow looks dicey in terms of possible rain delays.


Brando Says:

ah, yes it was a monday.

WOW, 4 years in a row- and they still have not learned from this.

the weather report also doesn’t look good for sunday , so it could be 5 in a row.


mat4 Says:

They played the ladies final and the semi the day before — it was a super sunday of a kind — so Brando’s UE is understandable.


Brando Says:

According to this, they are considering a change:

http://www.tennishead.net/news/on-tour/2011/10/20/us-open-planning-schedule-change

I had thought that after last years final, they did say things would change in the future.


mat4 Says:

I read an good article a few years ago about super saturday, CBS, the USTA and money. Such schedule has nothing to do with tennis, nor the wishes of the organizers.


Wog boy Says:

OK Folks,

Stop talking about ages, we all know how old (young) we are.
Everything depends how good was the maintenance.
Did we changed the oil regulary, did we do tune up properly and did we use original or after market spare parts?


mat4 Says:

Hi, WB. I still use the original parts…


racquet Says:

Somebody just tweeted a quote from Raonic’s presser, he said: “Andy took me out of the match. He was so much on top of me. I told him he was simply amazing. Nothing I could do.”

He just went up (a tad) in my estimation. He talked a big talk before the match and consequently I think he just matured a bit.


Wog boy Says:

Hi mat4,

If original means one we are born with I am the same though not all of them are functioning the way they use to and some are missing, but then again you don’t take old timers out every day, only on weekends and public holidays and when it is not raining, so it is OK.


jane Says:

Good news racquet, thanks.


skeezer Says:

Congrats to Murray, a solid win. This is a good learning curve for Raonic. Its great to have a big S & V game, but in todays Tennis you need a solid all around game. Murray, at his best, has way to many shots in his arsenal, if allowed to use them.


Wog boy Says:

Skeezer,

“if allowed to use them”, well I agree. He played great but Milos played into his his hands too, IMO. The real test will be Federer if they are to meet, though Cilic can trouble Andy, he beat him already at USO.


Alok Says:

Since the USO began, super Saturday and the roof has been mentioned countless times. Super Saturday has been a USTA tradition. There will be a roof in the near future and no amount of debate is going to make a rfoof appear, end of.


jane Says:

There was an interesting article on Super Saturday, which started in 1984, last year; many of the players – Roddck, Fed, Nadal and Murray – spoke out. Apparently, however, CBS has a broadcasting deal that runs through 2014, so I get the impression no changes can be made until the contract is reviewed.

Link to full article http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/tennis/us-open-2011-super-saturday-format-attracts-increasing-criticism/2011/09/09/gIQAzrOKGK_story.html


Margot Says:

Just happily scrolling down……
Thanx to brilliant posters on tennisx for their excellent comments: dari, eric, jane, Brando, daniel, skeeze, kimmi, mat4 and marrisv.
Hey racquet, “Olympic gold medalist Andy Murray” played a blinder….;)


Alok Says:

If all is this is known, why the incessant harping and criticism of the USTA/USO? Is this just to make conversation? To reiterate, no amount of griping is going to change things as they stand presently. The players are doing what needs to be done to cope, dunno why some posters have to keep re-hashing it repeatedly.

It would be a lot more interesting to read what happened in the matches that were played, than the roof talk. e.g, Serena bageling her opponent, Berdych being the first in the QFs, the Willliams sisters losing in doubles, the Bryans had to fight to win their match, and countless other stuff on the matches, not only Murray’s match and all that’s wrong with Raonic. Not to tke anything away form Murray, but Raonic has had t pay some very tough matches before playing Murray, but such is the life of a journeyman.

Anyway, as I was reminded I’m only a 2-3 month-old dumbo on this site, so I should keep quiet and let the lifers here talk as much as they choose because it’s their opinions that really matter.


Alok Says:

Ok, we all know who’s scrolling down. I do the same repeatedly, but don’t need to announce it to the world with another dig.

Suddenly Tennis-x is a very nice place to be! LOL.


Wog boy Says:

Margot,

:-)


Margot Says:

^ No need to scroll down here:)
Wog boy, wish there were emoticons on this site cos if there were I’d give you a *thumbs up*
Good luck to Nole tonight. :)


Wog boy Says:

Margot,

No worries, so far so good.
Thanks


Huh Says:

murray well played means everything’s fine! go murray!!!


Polo Says:

I am looking forward to slam events where there are no women’s matches interfering with men’s events. It would be nice to see if a separate majors for women could generate enough income to show that women tennis players deserve equal pay.


harry Says:

Alok –

“To reiterate, no amount of griping is going to change things as they stand presently.”
It is funny that it is a contradiction in itself :)


jamie Says:

No kidding. Plus he has a wrist injury. He said during the ESPN interview that he has to see how the wrist recovers for today.


jamie Says:

Him beating Roddick was expected.

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