Federer First Into London SFs; Djokovic, Murray Bid To Keep Pace Friday
by Sean Randall | November 8th, 2012, 6:44 pm
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And then there were three. Three spots, that is, remaining in the semifinals of the ATP Finals. Roger Federer booked his berth after cooling off a hot-handed David Ferrer 6-4, 7-6.

Federer’s win keeps him perfect at 14-0 career against Ferrer and with a 2-0 record (4-0 in sets), he’s the first player of the Elite Eight to qualifying for the Final Four.

“I thought the match was great,” Federer said after his 70th win of the season and 12th straight at the Finals. “It’s good intensity. I think we both started a bit up and down at the beginning maybe. Could have gone also maybe the other way, that he led 3‑0. So I thought it was fair that we were on even terms sort of going into 3‑All, 4‑All.

“Second set, I think we both picked it up. We started to have tougher rallies. I think we played with more pace in the second set. Again, today, I think Ferrer showed why he’s so tough to beat. He makes you hit the extra shot; he makes it physical. You know that mentally he’s not going to go anywhere. That’s why he has so much respect from his fellow competitors.”

Ferrer had come into the event playing some of his best tennis after wins in Valencia and Paris, but despite a sloppy performance from Roger he still couldn’t make an impression after leading 3-0 in the first set.

“I had a lot of chance for to break him the serve,” Ferrer said. “I can’t do it. When he has one breakpoint to me, he make it. You know, sometimes with these players, if I don’t take my chance, I don’t won the important points, is very difficult to won these matches. In the first set, it happened then.”

Added Federer on his record against Ferrer, “In some ways, it’s helpful to have that one‑sided head‑to‑head record, but at the same time it sometimes creates pressure as well. You always feel like this next match is probably going to happen. You try hard. He tries harder, too, because all he needs is that one win, so then he’s got that. So, I mean, I tried hard to not make it happen today. You could feel that he’s confident, he’s on a run. I think even more it’s a great victory for me.”

The six-time champ will next get another guy he has dominated, Juan Martin Del Potro, on Saturday afternoon with a chance to win the group. Del Potro blew out an overmatched Janko Tipsarevic today 6-0, 6-4 to remain in the hunt for a semi berth.

Tipsarevic, who was fighting an illness last week in Paris, has won just eight games in four sets this week. He’s been the patsy of the tournament, as predicated by most.

“I wouldn’t really blame my loss on the sickness,” said Tipsarevic. “I am generally feeling fine. The problem was that I was sick and I didn’t play a lot of tennis lately. I feel sorry that I don’t play my best tennis here in London, which is probably the best event of the year. But I fought hard to be in a position to come to this event. I’ll just do my best for one more match.”

Good luck against Ferrer, Janko, sounds like you’ll need it.

Tomorrow, world No. 1 Novak Djokovic will be in by winning a set against Tomas Berdych. Andy Murray meets Jo-Wilfried Tsonga, and if the Scot wins in straight sets he’ll also get through. And I think based on play this week both favorites, especially Novak, should advance.

Tsonga and Berdych, however, remain fully alive in the competition, and with their streaky games and in conditions that reward power, we could see some fireworks Friday. For two of the four players it will be their last match of 2012, so expect everything to be left on the court!

And with the way the numbers are working out, in the Sunday semifinals Federer, the likely top player in Group B, would play No. 2 from A which looks like Murray. Djokovic, the Group A winner, would meet Ferrer who should beat Tipsarevic.

ESPN2 has coverage at 2pm ET of Djokovic and Berdych. ESPN3.com will stream both singles match live.

FRIDAY ATP LONDON FINALS SCHEDULE

CENTRE COURT Start 12:00 pm
[2] Max Mirnyi (BLR)/Daniel Nestor (CAN) v [5] Mahesh Bhupathi (IND)/Rohan Bopanna (IND)

Not Before 1:45 PM
[1] Novak Djokovic (SRB) v [5] Tomas Berdych (CZE)

Not Before 6:00 PM
[4] Robert Lindstedt (SWE)/Horia Tecau (ROU) v [8] Jonathan Marray (GBR)/Frederik Nielsen (DEN)

Not Before 7:45 PM
[3] Andy Murray (GBR) v [7] Jo-Wilfried Tsonga (FRA)


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101 Comments for Federer First Into London SFs; Djokovic, Murray Bid To Keep Pace Friday

El Flaco Says:

If Delpo wins he is in regardless of what Ferrer does. If he beats Fed in straight sets he will get the 1st seed and if he wins in 3 sets he will get the 2nd seed.


scineram Says:

Also Ferrer must win to advance, Janko is out.


racquet Says:

Ferrer can only advance if he wins and Delpo loses.


tennisfansince76 Says:

its too bad that the WTF is only on Tennis channel this year. i don’t have TC so i can only read the scores and maybe watch the highlights on youtube when they are posted. the WTF used to be on ESPN, the whole thing. then last year only the finals and now nothing. i may have to break down and order Tennis Channel or hopefully that law suit that TC won means they will be on basic cable. not sure how long it takes after the decision for that to happen w/ appeals and all. it may not be in my lifetime.


Alok Says:

@TF76, FYI Sean’s article states that ESPN2 will carry coverage of Djokovic/Berdych @2:00pm ET.


Brando Says:

Like sean, I also predicted the same SF line up a few days ago. Shall stick to it. Cannot see tipsy beatig ferru at all and delpo has an uphill task v fed for me. Nole should beat berdych and muzza should also prevail v tsonga. Andy v jo, IMO, will be the most intriguing, potentially nail biting close match.


TJ Says:

What does it tell about this strong era that a player from fed’s generation – ferrer is still winless against federer but he has wins against all the top players – including the greatest player of this era – murray [according to murrayturds]


Daniel Says:

Only way for Djoko to be out is if he loses in 2 and Murray beats Tsonga in 2. Than Berdy and Murray qualifies. Djoko only needs a set and he qualifies regardless.


Polo Says:

TJ, it tells me that in this srong era, Federer is the strongest by far than anyone.


Wog boy Says:

I thought that Fedfans don’t consider H2H as importan and as an measurement to compare players…..or they are using it only when it suits them?:)
I have to ask Rafa’s and Andy’s fans for their opinion, particulary Rafa’s since their man has big margin over other top3, does that say anything?


jimmy Says:

Federer will probably have Del Potro on Saturday, Murray on Sunday and Djokovic on Monday. If he pulls it off he will really have earned it.


TJ Says:

H2H is ofcourse important. but you should have the brains to analyze those numbers.[which automatically disqualifies rafa fans straightaway!]


Michael Says:

For Ferrer to register his first win against Roger, this was the day. The erratic Roger which is now surfacing quite often now-a-days due to his age turned up yet again to the dismay of his fans and produced a listless display of Tennis. Despite that Ferrer was not able to beat him and to make things more worse for him couldn’t even snatch a set. This should be demoralizing for him. With this he can give up winning against Roger since he too is now over 30. Now Roger is through to the semis and is surely has a shot to secure his 7th trophy which is considered as the sixth major. I do not know how Roger with this kind of form will perform against the likes of Murray or Novak or even Berdych. But, if he does improve in the matches ahead he has a chance considering that indoor hard courts are his bread and butter. On the other side of the draw, I think it will Novak and Andy who will sail through unless there are some surprises there. So, it might be Roger Vs Andy and Novak Vs Ferrer line up in the semis.


Michael Says:

I am sorry it should read as fifth major.


TJ Says:

Rafa’s H2H against federer/djokovic is misleading because they suffered for being much better on clay than rafa is outside clay.

lesser guys like blake, nalbandian, hewitt and roddick have much better looking h2h against rafa. davydenko even has a winning H2H against rafa.

let’s also not forget roddick has a winning H2H against djokovic. does it mean roddick is a better player than djokovic, wogboy? surely you dont have to ask some dumbazzes for this one.


TJ Says:

The main rival for federer is not murray/djokovic but the court speed! i cant understand the fcuk why they did slowed it. it’s like they want tennis to be fcukin ping pong! i mean there are stupid clay courts for endless grinding.

the other factor is federer playing 3days in a row.

The good news is, if anyone can overcome these odds, RF can!


Wog boy Says:

Michael,

Why did you exlude Delpo from SF?


Paul Says:

I wonder if Fed can make it to the final. He is not playing well.


scineram Says:

Because he will turn out like Ferrer.


Wog boy Says:

Fair enough.


alison Says:

Wogboy Nov 8th 10.22pm,i was reading your post,and as a Rafa fan,and as a fan of tennis in general,i have to say i dont and i never have cared about who has a better H2H,the only thing i care about is my favorite or favorites beating whichever player is stood in front of them,at any given time.


alison Says:

Wogboy i have to agree Michael seems to be a bit too quick to write Delpo off against Fed,Delpo beat Fed a couple of weeks ago,surely that result will have given Delpo a much needed confidence boost?


nadalista Says:

on 8 November Roger Rasheed tweeted:

“Cutest thing, Rogers girls walking down corridor of O2 pointing @ every picture on the wall and saying” RAFA”- mmm they know the rival lol”

Or, could be that they are just Rafans………..and who can blame them?

Smart cuties……..


MMT Says:

I have to agree with Paul – I don’t think Federer is playing well enough to win – he had a clean match against Tipsarevic, but against Ferrer he had a lot of unforced errors, and his 1st serve was dismal. Lucky for him nobody seems to be playing very well at this point, but a lot of players in the field match up well against him, particularly when he’s in this form.


the DA Says:

Nole rolling over Berdy at the moment. Serving to go 5-1 up.


Brando Says:

@nadalista: LOL, it would be funny. If the Feds daughter prefer rafa’s tennis over his! Atleast they remember him! VAMOS!


Brando Says:

I wouldn’t be surprised if nole’s win the WTF- at this rate it’s very, very possible!


the DA Says:

Nole takes the first set rather comfortably 6-2.


racquet Says:

Nole also qualifies for the SF.


Humble Rafa Says:

Mr. Unkempt Hair, my beloved countryman David Ferrer has gotten a hair cut. And it’s ugly.


the DA Says:

Yes, well done Nole! I thought we were going 3 for a second. Now he gives Andy 3 permutations to qualify for the SF. Berdy is out. Tsonga could make it if he wins in 2.


racquet Says:

Congrats to Nole. Jane, you can relax now. As the DA says, this helps his buddy out. All Andy has to do is win a set. Interestingly, if Delpo does well tomorrow he could top his group and make Fed meet Nole in the SF. Intrigue.


jane Says:

Yay Nole! :)


rogerafa Says:

Why should anybody be surprised if Novak wins the WYF. He is a very deserving world number one and right in the prime of his career. He is great on hard courts and this slow and higher-bouncing surface suits him more than anyone else in the tournament. Roger is struggling to find his form. He seems to have lost his focus after Wimbledon. However, I still think Andy has a decent shot if he can remain focused. He seems to be the only one who could stop Novak on Monday. It will be interesting to see the semi final pairings and how it affects the winners in the final. The likely Roger-Andy semi final could potentially be a grueling one if Roger can find some form. If Novak’s level drops a bit, David could give him a tough match unless he is running on fumes by then. Delboy should be much easier to handle for Novak on this court. The Roger-Novak semi final, unlikely as it is, can not be totally ruled out. I wonder who Roger will prefer to play in the semi final since Andy and Novak appear equally formidable now.


grendel Says:

It’s bad form to quote yourself, and my apologies in advance, but it concerns something I’m intrigued about. On another thread, I wrote:”Serving at 40-15, 3-2 in the 3rd, Djokovic’s 2nd serve was extraordinary. I’ve put down the score if anyone wants to check, because I’m not sure if I can altogether trust my eyes. The serve was heavily sliced, and by the time it reached Murray it was head high and still climbing. Murray did well to get a reasonably decent racket on it, but even so, he delivered a short ball which Djokovic duly punished. Petchey said it just wasn’t good enough returning a second serve so short, and Leify backed him up. But I don’t see what Murray could have done – the serve looked unplayable to me.”

Well, the point is, this happened again today. It was in the 2nd set 4-5, Djokovic serving (2nd serve again) at 40-15. If anything, the ball rose even higher, since Berdych is taller than Murray. And he was completely at sea against the serve, somehow getting part of his racket onto it to send it lobbing out of court. This time, Leify had a different response (to an identical serve – but it’s ok, none of us are consistent)and remarked in awed tones about the high bounce.

Not being an inveterate Djokovic watcher, I wonder how often he pulls this particular serve out of his repertoire. And why doesn’t he do it more often? I don’t think you could learn to play it, it’s just too difficult. Maybe getting the very heavy slice required involves a little bit of good fortune.

I thought Berdych was formidable in the 2nd set, all the time from when he broke back. He was absolutely on top of Djokovic, playing with authority and calm assurance. I’ve always thought that a Berdych on song would tend to overpower Federer and Murray, but I didn’t think that was possible with Djokovic. Today, we learnt it was – technically. Because yet again, Berdych showed his uncertainty at the death. A double fault and some weak forehands – naturally the greatest rearguard tennis warrior the world has ever seen will take advantage of such lapses.

Nevertheless, Berdych keeps inching forward, and if he can only learn to control those nerves, then surely he will be rewarded. He is absolutely grand slam champion material.


RZ Says:

We could end up with a doubles smackdown with Paes-Stepanek playing Bhupathi-Bopanna in the semis, depending on their group placements.


jane Says:

Sorry, not sure where to put this question: but is Rafa playing in the DC finals between Spain and Czechs? If Berdych comes up big there, it could be interesting to see if that inspires him for next year. No doubt he has the game to do great things. It seems like he is more confident now in general but a DC win could help spur him on perhaps?


racquet Says:

jane, as far as I know Rafa isn’t – he certainly wasn’t listed by Corretja. The last thing I read was that he would be back at the Abu Dhabi exhibition on 27 th Dec.


Rick Says:

EASY DRAW FOR FEDERINA! RAFA WAS SUPPOSED TO BE SEEDED FOUR, NOT FERRER! And Tipsarevic can’t even win a set from anyone. Federina always got the advamtage with the absent of Rafa. While all the players who could kick his ass are battling each others to death in the other group.


jane Says:

Thanks racquet; yeah I thought I read after Christmas or in the new year for his return. So anyhow, perhaps that increases the chances of the Czechs? Not sure. Spain are so tough in DC matches! Lots of depth besides Rafa, and Ferrer has been so good this year, even on hard courts, which is presumably what the Czechs will choose (I think they have the final at home if I recall correctly). Anyhow, I know this is jumping the gun as we’re mid-WTF!


Brando Says:

‘Nevertheless, Berdych keeps inching forward, and if he can only learn to control those nerves, then surely he will be rewarded. He is absolutely grand slam champion material.’

ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH THIS!

Berdych’s game is MORE than good enough to win a GS right now.

His serve is formidbale, the FH is a real weapon, the BH very consistent.

Movement is also very good for a big man.

Add in the fact that he produces the powerful shots with effortless ease, and hardly EVER is injured- then all of a sudden HE IS a genuine GS contender based on his game, his weapons.

This year alone he BEAT fed at USO, SHOULD have been 2-0 up v rafa @ AO, and showed today in the 2nd set that HE CAN trouble nole. And he REGULARLY causes trouble to Muzza!

RU @ Wimby, SF @ FO, and a game naturally suited to outdoor/ indoor HC- EVERYTHING seems to be in place for him to succeed!

So why isn’t he a top contender at slams?

MENTAL FRAGILITY!

He just struggles to keep it together when the going get’s tough, or when the other player is starting to dominate the match.

He plays with real FEAR especially v rafa and novak- almost with a resigned look about himself, even when he maybe leading in the match!

He just DOES NOT seem to genuinely believe in himself or his ability- and IF you don’t believe you can win, then you really are facing an uphill battle!

He’s 27 years old now- been a pro for 10 YEARS!

Something needs to change for him mentally ASAP, or otherwise it shall be more of the same: plenty of opportunities to turn the corner, but the mental fragility just hampers him from ever taking those chances!


Brando Says:

‘ formidbale’ LOL, formidable!

Been watching to many Tottenham Hotspur matches I think!


Wog boy Says:

jane,

Hava you seen the match, was it good one, did Nole droped his level in second or Berdych upped it up. Couldn’t watch, finished late last nite and had to go out early this morning. I wish Australia is in a different time zone.
At least I recorded it so will be able to watch it this afternoon.


Brando Says:

BORIS BECKER on Tomas Berdych and his game:

http://www1.skysports.com/tennis/news/12040/8238213/Tomas-Berdych-defeat-to-Novak-Djokovic-proves-he-s-too-brittle-says-Boris-Becker

Believe’s that mentally he is ‘too brittle’.


Rick Says:

There should be an investigation on ATP, why Federina in the group with players who he could beat regularly? And Tipsarevic shouldn’t even be here! He gives the top guys really cheap wins!


jane Says:

Wog boy, yes: here is a great summation:

http://www.tennis.com/news/2012/11/world-tour-finals-dokovic-d-berdych/40072/#.UJ1b5pjN45Q

Enjoy it when you watch it! :) Woot Nole!!


skeezer Says:

Rickarina types in CAPS? LMAO…..


jane Says:

Totally agree with this from the article Brando posted: “”You’ve got to give credit to Djokovic – that return at 5-6 in the tie-breaker after being down 5-1 was a sensational way to set point,” ”

Tomas can get tight but WAY less so than he has in the past; after all, he wouldn’t be closing out wins over Fed (USO) and Murray (FO). I think he’s actually improved in the mental strength department in the last couple years, but he still has a some improving to do. Not just in that, in terms of strategy. I think the racquet reaction makes a good point. In set one, Nole did NOT let Tomas get to net but kept him pinned back. Nole came to net 6 times today versus 25 times versus Andy so he plays his opponent accordingly. And later in the second and tiebreak, Berd was coming to net more.

Wog boy, I’d say it was, as is usually the case imo, a case of both Berd settling in and Nole settling down in the second. Nole needs to keep his concentration and pedal to the metal throughout a match but as mentioned on another thread, I think he’s been negligent in that area at times this year. Oh well – what matters is he came through in straights and qualified for semis beating great opponents. Proud of him for that.


madmax Says:

good luck to federer tomorrow…skeezer, i will be there so will be scresming from top of my lungs…come on fed!gannu, hope u njoying the fed matches so far…this must be heaven for you?
wog boy, for the record i dont cate much for head to heads, if i did thdn h2h ssys davy is a better player than rafa nx that clearly isnt correct, dont u think…ghere is so much more to a players game, thats for sure


madmax Says:

apologies fr errors…tiny iphone screen!
fed v delpo tmrw, hopefly fed wil play godlike and not put hid fans thru torture! i expect the best from the maestro, thats for sure…xxoo


jane Says:

Murray off to a fast start.


the DA Says:

Double-break. Roger Rasheed looks as agitated as he used when Monfils was on court.


jane Says:

I think Tsonga and Monfils share a few qualities. :) Maybe Andy with a bagel here??


the DA Says:

I’ve got some cream cheese, so that would do nicely.


grendel Says:

jane

in the link you provide, Steve Tignor writes:”
Advice for Berdych: If the score is tight, don’t go for all-out winners on your forehand”. That is contrary to how I remember it – Berdych did do at least two weak fhs low into the net, this was clearly about tightness, and he paid dearly. In general, in the 2nd set Berdych was not going for all out winners, he was actually controlling Djokovic from the back of the court with an extraordinarily smooth display of power tennis – I never expected to see that against Djokovic. Tignor does not convey the mood of this match imo.

You write:”I think he’s actually improved in the mental strength department in the last couple years, but he still has a some improving to do”. Perfectly put.

On the business of coming to the net, Berdych showed how much more natural it is to him than to Djokovic. Actually, his improvement in this area is remarkable. Everybody has been saying for years that Berdych’s game badly needs to be supplemented by judicious use of the net, not least because it should exactly suit his powerful game. It seems he is at last learning. As I said in another thread (just my opinion of course) Djokovic has become very secure in defensive positions at the net. He has not yet become adept at aggressive volleying. Well, you can’t do everything.


jane Says:

But I do think Tsonga will likely be more coachable than La Monf, if that makes sense. Tsonga seems to really want to maximize his abilities, which are fearsome, but I am not sure of Gael was as dedicated. On the other hand, he had the bad luck of injuries too. But both guys seem to be impulsive and implosive on the court. Tsonga, though, perhaps more explosive and able to really run with momentum. Of which Andy is letting him have none. Andy matches up well with Jo too. He has such a good record over him.


jane Says:

grendel, yes, Tomas is dangerous at net. That’s why I agreed with the “reaction” part about Nole keeping him back in set one. But yes, Tomas made some bad forehand errors. He still gets tight. I think the reaction was good in that it captured the schizo quality of the two sets. Or maybe Nole, lol. ;) Or maybe Berd! Or maybe all of them?


skeezer Says:

Madmax,

Have fun! Hope the Tennis is good ;)


racquet Says:

Yes! Andy qualifies for the SF.


the DA Says:

Whew, I thought a wobble was coming there. Go Andy!


the DA Says:

Poor Jo is having a nightmare out there. Nothing seems to work.


Brando Says:

Fed, Muzza, Nole confirmed SF now!


jane Says:

Nope, Andy is on top of him. You’re right DA.


jane Says:

So I wonder who will be the fourth – Delpo or Ferrer???


the DA Says:

I think it could well be Delpo, and he might top the group. I think the crowd have taken to cheering on Tsonga because they want a match.


racquet Says:

Cool new hawkeye graphic which shows the trajectory of the ball.


trufan Says:

EASY DRAW FOR FEDERER???

My Foot.

While he got an easy pass with Tipsy, and perhaps even Ferrer – Djoke and Murray must be laughing at their luck of being able to play first, so that they can be rested for their semi final on sunday.

As for Federer?

Not only does he have the bad luck of playing 3 days in a row (sat sun mon), he has to perhaps beat Delpo on Sat, Murray on sunday, and then Djokovic on monday, to get the title. That’s the toughest 3-day schedule anyone could ask for.

He got a double whammy of bad luck by playing Tipsy first and Delpo Last, instead of the other way around. If it was Tipsy on saturday, it wouldn’t have been that bad.

What say you, Rick, or will you just repeat your senseless talking points with no logic??

On the whole, for the stage when it matters the most (semi and later), Fed actually got the raw end of the stick.


Polo Says:

Wasn’t it only yesterday when I considered Berdych as Murray’s replacement as the best player to never have won a slam title? After watching him play against Djokovic, I take it back. He is plays like sterling crap when it matters. He held several set points in the second set tiebreaker and showed effectively why he should never be taken as a serious contender for major events.


the DA Says:

@ trufan – hehe…you’re very fickle with your opinions. One day it’s easy, the next day not.


the DA Says:

Typically, Jo springs to life in the middle of the 2nd set.


trufan Says:

DA,

I still say the same thing – perhaps you can’t follow it.

When the draw came out, the timing was not released immediately (as to who would play first). Certainly, Federer’s group is soft, which I still maintain.

But then two things happened which hurt federer – playing second, and playing Delpo the last, on saturday.

These two later things makes his path from semi onwards terrible.

So the draw made it easy to get to the semi, but then the timing of matches makes it difficult for him to go forward from the semis.

Got it?

There is nothing inconsistent here.

Overall, it hurts Federer since he would have gotten to the semis anyway, most likely. He didn’t get luck where he needed it the most – semis onwards.

If he is smart, he will not spend too much energy in the Delpo match. It doesn’t really matter if he tops the group or not, if its Djoke and Murray who qualify from the other side. He should just play super aggressive serve and volley against Delpo, finish the match either ways in less than 80 minutes, and be fresh for the semi.

If he is NOT smart, he will get himself dragged into a slugfest.

In fact, losing to Delpo in straight sets in a short match helps him, since in that case, Delpo qualifies for the semis, and then either Murray or Djoke have a tough match in the semi against a not so tired Delpo.

Federer and Delpo killing each other in the round robin stage will just make Murray and Djoke smile like hell, since they would be sitting on their couch on saturday eating popcorn while these guys slug it out.


jane Says:

This is kind of following the trajectory of the Nole match. I mean a fairly straightforward 1st set and then a tighter second one. Tsonga loves to be inspired by a crowd and they seem to want more tennis.


Wog boy Says:

jane,

Thanks, Your post on the other thread was spot on, Nole is doing that far to often this year compare to last, though it is hard to compare last one with any other one:)

madmax and alison,

I am the last one to take H2H as an argument, particulary as Nole fan who is negstive with Roger/Rafa and just positive with Andy and thst can tour around too.
The only eason I asked that question is that I noticed some people are very selective when and where they are using H2H same as with uding stats. I don’t mind if Nole ends up with negative score with all of the other three as long as can ad few more GS titles and few more years as #1. that will stay recorded in tennis history and H2H will stay as something less important, it is nice to be on the positive side of H2H but not necessary to get in the books of tennis history as one great player or even one of the greates, we all know who is greates, don’t we:)

madmax,
Enjoy O2 and tennis I have to wait for January:)


Wog boy Says:

Far too many typos, sorry:( you can blame iPhone.
I hope you got what I wanted to say.


the DA Says:

That’s the way to close it out, with an ace. I thought Tsonga was going to take it into a decider.


jane Says:

Yes, a strong finish so Andy and Nole qualify in their group – now we just wait and see who is the fourth man…


racquet Says:

Whew, I was impressed with how calm Andy remained this time after losing the break advantage. Cool as a cucumber in the TB. Ivan should be in his box more.


Wog boy Says:

It looks like Pierre is enjoying his time in London and O2. He is with Nole even in locker room, that is what I read on the other blog. Though I am not fan of French Poodle (he should get English Staffy) this one is exception…..it is Nole’s one;)


jane Says:

Hee hee Wog Boy, Nole said Pierre was at practice with him the other day. Well, Jelena is there, and where Jelena goes Pierre goes. BTW, I wonder if she has a role in Nole’s foundation. He mentioned her in his speech and I know she was doing a Masters degree in business, so she’d be suited to some sort of role there, I’d imagine. Anyhow, that’s just speculation; I don’t know.


Wog boy Says:

jane,

It would be strange if Jelena doesn’t have a role since she had more time and looks to me like pretty capable person and it would be great for Nole to know that everything is in a safe hands while is roaming the world and playing tennis.


alison Says:

Wogboy behind every great man,lies a great woman,as we say over here in old Blighty.


grendel Says:

“Whew, I was impressed with how calm Andy remained this time after losing the break advantage.”

Agreed. Actually, one had to laugh at this match. It was, quite frankly, becoming a dead bore – with both words operative. Dead, because of the round robin logic whereby Murray was already through having won the first set, and boring because Tsonga was absent, and some interloper who looked very like him was playing in his stead. At some point, the real Tsonga slipped back into his body, and started to play tennis. We knew this was for real when Tsonga broke Murray 40-0 without Murray playing badly – the final point was perhaps the best of the week, quite breathtaking tennis from both men, corner to corner, glorious, heavily spun bh slices, and Murray’s final shot landing just out. Murray did well to hang on till the tiebreak – having to save a set point along the way, Tsonga could barely miss. Who said this game wasn’t mental, come on! Tsonga was hitting really good balls from Murray right into the corners, taking advantage of balls which were barely short to move menacingly to the net where he was impassable – when earlier it was all little more than hit and hope and generally miss.

What effects the transition? How does the sad, listless figure suddenly evolve into a bright eyed killer? Even the backhand, which all the experts say needs close attention from Rasheed, was functioning like a dream. Who knows? But what was impressive about Murray in the tiebreak, as raquet observes, was his coolness under this terrific pressure. But it was the new Murray – he was aggressive, none of this cat and mouse nonsense. That was heartening.

Polo – I don’t agree. First, Berdych outplayed Djokovic in the 2nd set, and that was a revelation. To be honest, I never thought he could do that, but he played like a millionaire, it was just the smoothest exhibition of power you can imagine. That’s significant, imo. However, it doesn’t address the point you make, about crumbling at the back end of the tiebreak. The point is, we know Berdych does this. Don’t forget, he used to do that against Federer, Fed in his prime too, and he’d be on top but end up effectively defeating himself. Eventually he gathered himself, and now we know he is a very dangerous opponent for Federer. I’m not saying the same will happen vis-a-vis Djokovic – but it might. Mountains move slowly, and there is something of the mountain about Berdych.

There was a very nice interview on Sky between Djokovic and Annabelle Croft. Djokovic spoke of how he had always loved tennis, first watched it at the age of 4, with tennis courts always being in the background in his childhood. He spoke movingly about his debt to his family, and paid tribute to Federer without being in the least fulsome.


alison Says:

Congrats to Nole and Andy for qualifying for the semis,i only saw glimses of Noles match when the residents were watching the game,saw Berdych take a 3 0 lead in the second set,and i thought it was going to a 3rd for sure,but before i knew it the match was over,from what i can gather he had 3 set points in that second set,he will be gutted that he couldnt at least push it to a 3rd,soo glad Nole won though,and delighted for Andy too,im thinking Ferrer beating Tipsy is more likely than Delpo beating Fed,but you never know.


racquet Says:

@ grendel

Good summation.

“he was aggressive, none of this cat and mouse nonsense”

Agreed.

On another note, I hope Margot had a great time watching it live.


El Flaco Says:

trufan Says:
So the draw made it easy to get to the semi, but then the timing of matches makes it difficult for him to go forward from the semis.
———————————————–

I said this when the groups and schedule were released. Fed has a perfect draw to qualify for the next round, but a very difficult path to winning the tournament because he would have to play 3 consecutive matches and the last 2 would probably be a Murray/Djoko combo. This is the way it is playing out.

If Fed had Murray and Berdych in his group there would a lower probability of him qualifying, but if he finished 1st might play Ferrer in the semi and then Murray/Djoko would beat each other up in the other semi. In the final Fed could be the fresher of the 2.


Polo Says:

It will be a tough semifinal for Federer and an even tougher final it he gets there. The same goes with the guy who he plays in the semifinal. The winner may come from the other semi-final match.


Polo Says:

Of course, that is just my conjecture. I am just softening the impact in case Federer fails to win.


jane Says:

Daniel, I need your help! I think you went to the FO last year right? How far in advance did you buy your tickets, and did you buy really expensive ones? At what point in the event would you recommend going? Any advice you can offer would be appreciated, if you’re reading. :)

grendel, wish I could’ve seen that Nole interview you speak of.

racquet, yeah Margot said she was going: lucky lady!! I hope she had fun.

And Gannu and Madmax have been there too. I swear I am going to see live professional tennis soon! And I’d like to see some of these top 4 guys play, ideally all four of them!


TJ Says:

Right! Federer benefitted from nadaline not being the draw!

At an event where he is 4-0 against nadaline with nadaline winning only 1 set in those 4 matches and last time they played federer kicked nadaline’s azz 6-3 6-0.

Yes that makes sense!

Be greatful that nadaline never makes it deep on these relatively faster courts. he would not have his winning H2Hs either federer/djokovic. He might still have the winning H2H against murray, because murray is a clown who can never beat the top guys consistently! [having a losing record against a one-dimensional players like nadaline, even outside clay! how the fcuk do you manage that?]

Federer has made 10 semi-finals at these championships in 11 events! and this is not some bozo event where you can hope to play some junk players. top 8. Have nadaline, murray and djokovic put together made 10 semi-finals?

I like how nadaline fans are lying and making up numbers to make him look better than djokovic. When the fact is that djokovic is a better player than nadaline outside clay!


Daniel Says:

Jane,

First, enter RG site and creat a record there. When they start seling tickest you will be able to buy. But you have to keep an eye on the dates. I wasn’t ale to buy in the morning and during night the only way fr me to buy center curts was to buy a combo for Paris Masters as well, which I did attend and lost tickets:) was in NYC during Sandy and didn’t think back them thatI should have come here and offer for free to anybody who was in Paris. I just needed an e-mail to give peopleoportunjty to collect the tickest. My bad:(

But RG is a it expensive the less you get is 60-70 euro per day in the beggining, come week 2 everythng is beyond 100 euros.

Register and keep an eye on the dates, which is in February if I am ot mistaken.


Wog boy Says:

jane,

I can tell you what I do for AO, best bet to see the best in the game, male end female is to go for QF matches. I do that every year day and night session, for AO you they start selling tickets from october the1st, me thinks and for AO2013 they are $135 for a session.


jane Says:

Thanks Daniel, I will do that. It looks like my family and I will be in Paris right at the perfect time. Thanks for the help. I will look at the website now.

Wog Boy, QFs sound perfect. You’re so lucky you get to go every year. I have watched all of these players millions of times on TV, and I am sure live will be totally different, but just to get around the atmosphere of live pro-tennis would be cool.


Wog boy Says:

jane,

You cannot compare TV and live, you can feel how they breath, you can hear what they think:) and the people around you and youself are breathing with players. I love every minut of it from 11am until last match is finished.


jane Says:

Wog boy, as I can imagine – as usual you put it so well. I just hope I can see good matches and hear them think! :)


grendel Says:

jane – I don’t know how relevant this is, since it was 7 years ago or so, but my 2 sons went to RG with their mother – just turning up. No booking or anything, and only an hour’s queueing. Was first week, and also no access to the big courts, you would need to book for that I guess. It was bliss for my younger son, since he got to see his idol, Moya. Elder son, overall, enjoyed it more, though – more stamina.


alison Says:

Grendel i was just looking at ticket prices on the website just out of interest,its so expensive it takes me a fortnight to earn that sort of money,mere mortals like myself have to settle for watching tennis on the TV im afraid to say care for the elderly doesnt pay that much,but i will put it on my bucket list anyway.


grendel Says:

alison

bummer, this money racket, isn’t it. The things a body has to do to put some grub in his gob. And, from what I hear, caring for the elderly is not as rewarding as it used to be.
I checked about prices this year at RG, and it is 24 euros for a full day, but for the outside courts only. Obviously to get on Suzanne Lenglen etc will cost an arm and a leg.
But nothing wrong with the outside courts, and the price is manageable, and it could be a good day, especially for someone like you who loves tennis and is not star struck.


jane Says:

grendel thanks for the info – while I’d love to see the top guys play, admittedly, I would also like to just see some live pro tennis. So if it’s outside courts it has to be, I’d take that. But it looks like week one tickets for the show courts aren’t “toooooo expensive.” It’s crazy how pricey the final week’s matches are though. :/


grendel Says:

alison, I don’t know whether you are online whilst you are away, but just in case, I want to correct a possible misunderstanding.
When I wrote:”caring for the elderly is not as rewarding as it used to be”, only afterwards did I realise that this could be misinterpreted, which would be insulting to you.

I didn’t, of course, mean financially, I meant emotionally. That’s because there was a time when carers were encouraged to make relationships with, or at least to talk to, patients. These days, and since quite a long time ago in fact, there is too much emphasis on paper work, meeting targets etc, to allow for time devoted to patients. And that’s a shame, both for the carer and for the patient. Is this your experience?

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