Nadal Makes Hardcourt Debut Saturday At Indian Wells; Federer Opens Title Defense; American Girls Hold Court
by Staff | March 8th, 2013, 11:49 pm
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Rafael Nadal makes his long-awaited return to hardcourts on Saturday at the Indian Wells Masters 1000. The Spaniard who missed seven months of playing time to recover from a left knee injury, is back on cement for the first time in almost a year against hot-headed American Ryan Harrison tomorrow night.

“I feel very good. I’ve practised two times here,” Nadal said on Thursday. “But seriously, I understand my situation after seven months. I think it’s not the right moment to talk about the knee. I am here to try my best and that’s what I’m going to try. We’ll see how the knee responds on hard. The results on clay were positive, especially because the knee was feeling better and better every week, especially last week. Now I’m going to try here.”

Nadal and Harrison, who is 0-16 lifetime against Top 10 players, have never met before. Harrison played a good match against Federer on the same court in a 2011 night match.

After weeks of speculation as to his participation, Rafa confirmed his return to the desert over the weekend after crushing countryman David Ferrer to win Acapulco. And Nadal has fared well at Indian Wells reaching the semifinals or better the last seven years including titles in 2007 and 2009.

Rival Roger Federer knows a thing or four about winning at Indian Wells. The Swiss has four crowns and he enters as the defending champion. But Federer hasn’t won a title of any kind since Cincinnati last summer.

Federer will meet Denis Istomin in his opener.

Also on Saturday, John Isner meets former No. 1 Lleyton Hewitt, David Ferrer faces Kevin Anderson, Bernard Tomic takes on Richard Gasquet and Tomas Berdych and Gilles Simon are also in action in second round play.

For the women, the new wave of American teens are all in second round play: Sloane Stephens (v. U Radwanska), Madison Keys (v. Sam Stosur) and Taylor Townsend (v. Ana Ivanovic).

The last two women’s champions, Victoria Azarenka and Caroline Wozniacki, are also scheduled.

Earlier today, it was a mixed afternoon for Americans. Steve Johnson and Christina McHale both blew set leads to lose on Stadium 1. Jack Sock had a matchpoint in his 3-set loss to Ivo Karlovic while former finalist James Blake was an impressive winner. Qualifier Mallory Burdette of Stanford also got through.

2006 champion Maria Sharapova paced the top women in the third round. Joining the Russian in the win column were Aga Radwanska, Sara Errani, Marion Bartoli and Petra Kvitova who needed three sets to turn away Olga Govortsova.

The tournament’s billionaire owner Larry Ellison also announced an expansion in a groundbreaking event attended by Federer, Nadal, Novak Djokovic and Azarenka.

STADIUM 1 start 11:00 am
[WC] M Keys (USA) vs [7] S Stosur (AUS) – WTA
[15] J Isner (USA) vs L Hewitt (AUS) – ATP
D Istomin (UZB) vs [2] R Federer (SUI) – ATP

Not Before 4:30 PM
[1] V Azarenka (BLR) vs D Hantuchova (SVK) – WTA

Not Before 7:00 PM
[5] R Nadal (ESP) vs R Harrison (USA) – ATP

Not Before 8:30 PM
U Radwanska (POL) vs [15] S Stephens (USA) – WTA

STADIUM 2 start 11:00 am
K Anderson (RSA) vs [4] D Ferrer (ESP) – ATP
[24] J Janowicz (POL) vs D Nalbandian (ARG) – ATP
[11] A Ivanovic (SRB) vs [WC] T Townsend (USA) – WTA
B Tomic (AUS) vs [10] R Gasquet (FRA) – ATP
[6] T Berdych (CZE) vs [Q] M Zverev (GER) – ATP


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151 Comments for Nadal Makes Hardcourt Debut Saturday At Indian Wells; Federer Opens Title Defense; American Girls Hold Court

al Says:

knee, knee, knee, knee, knee, knee, knee, knee, knee, knee, knee, knee, knee, knee, knee, knee, knee, knee, knee, knee, knee…


Giles Says:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZrWIM9leQE&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Having great fun. Mind those knees Rafa, let the others do the shovelling! Lol


skeezer Says:

Great venue, great event. Thanks Mr. Ellison!


Brando Says:

As a MS event IW probably is the best run, funded, attended and just pure fun to watch event on the tour.

I don’t think any other MS really rivals it.


Giles Says:

Neil Harman of the Times tweeted:
“The champions gather for the IW big dig. Larry Ellison greets all with a handshake and Rafael Nadal gets a special hug”.


nadalista Says:

http://www.tennisnow.com/News/Connors-Says-Rafa-is-his-Kind-of-Kid,-Murray-Has-L.aspx

Connors, an eight-time Grand Slam winner who amassed 109 career titles during his career, doesn’t deny his affinity for Rafa’s all-in mindset on the court. “It’s just all about his health now,” he said. “He puts a lot of strain on his body the way he plays, and the effort that he gives… I like that, he’s my kind of kid because of that,….

#RafaKoolAidDrinker


skeezer Says:

nadalista,
Loved Connors game, especially when he got older.
Nice to see him giving props to Rafa.

(Btw, love your hashtag, at least u own up to it! :-) )


nadalista Says:

Mouth-watering match-ups today:

Rafa-Harrison;
Tomic-Gasquet;
Janowitz-Nalbandian;
Anderson-Ferrer;


skeezer Says:

Rafa Harrison mouthwatering?


nadalista Says:

^^^of course! The Rafa bit, to be clear…….


mat4 Says:

There’s no way Harrison will lose that match..


nadalista Says:

Well, if ever he was going to catch Rafa cold, this is it. Good luck to him!


Giles Says:

mat4. I think you had better let Nadalista into the secret behind the .. Oh yes, I noticed!! Lol


nadalista Says:

We gonna see, no?


Giles Says:

^^ When mat4 puts two dots after his post it means he is joking.


nadalista Says:

Ferru in trouble against Anderson……


nadalista Says:

Oh thanks @Giles for cluing me in on @mat4-speak…


jane Says:

Somewhere Berdych is smiling – wasn’t Ferrer his main competition in this section?


nadalista Says:

Ferru out…….


nadalista Says:

Big Berdy smiling…….Fed and Rafa, not so much.


The Great Davy Says:

Seed exodus continue tomorrow with Del Potro falling to Your Great Davy


mat4 Says:

Yes, it’s easier do than to put a smiley. Then, I like a kind of “serious”, dry humour with a bit of provocation, but I use it only with posters I know. But I confuse even them sometimes, not to mention the new posters, so I started to write two dots ..

When I am serious, I try to articulate my opinion more clearly, with arguments. It is not always easy, and sometimes I am plainly wrong, I admit.

So, when you see a short post, usually it is a (bad) joke. Long ones… just skip them..


mat4 Says:

Just saw that Ferrer lost. My draw is a complete mess now. Hopefully, I put Berdych and DelPo in the final, so there is still hope I can’t win the challenge in our group..

Come on, it’s a tragedy. Skeezer, WB and Brando have more good picks than me..


Giles Says:

^^^ Mystery man!! Lol


rafaeli Says:

Rafa is staying with Larry Ellison.


Giles Says:

rafaeli. Oh really, didn’t know that. I know he stayed with Ellison last year.
Ellison a true Rafa fan boy! :-))


nadalista Says:

I fear for the Umpire in the Jerzy-Nalby match…….


racquet Says:

Oh Ferrer. Showing he deserves No.4 ranking. Not.

The top 5 are quizzed on each other:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etlkAgWlZp4

Cutest wrong answer: Rafa thought Andy won a cow after winning his first slam.


nadalista Says:

Janowicz is one of the hottest prospects on the ATP and yet he still does not have a kit sponsor, how is this even possible? I mean, there are plenty of also-rans on the tour with sponsorships, why not Jerzy?


nadalista Says:

Seeds falling like confetti, Youzhny out, Rafa could face Leonado Mayer next……..


mat4 Says:

I found some Mecir vs Connors. I almost forget how it looked then.


jane Says:

Cute video racquet – thanks!

Ferrer is just not “on” so far in 2013 after a great 2012. Maybe he’s just played too much? He got blitz by Nole in the AbuDabi exho, and then again at AO where he should’ve lost to Nico, really, and then he lost badly to Rafa in Acapulco, and now he loses first match to Anderson. Maybe he should take a wee break? He’s 31 now isn’t he? It must be difficult to keep his schedule. I think he played 3 events pre-AO?

Really thought Hewitt should’ve had that first set over Isner. Looks like it’s going three if Leyton can hold here.


The Great Davy Says:

And the people have a debate who is the better: Me or Ferrer. LOL ! Did you SEE Doha?


Ben Pronin Says:

Nadalista, do you remember when Davydenko was ranked 4 in the world and was consistently making the QFs and SFs at majors, and even winning several Masters titles, and still had no clothing sponsor? Yeah, it’s crazy how that happens. I think part of it is because of the amount of money sponsors invest in the top guys. There are probably a ton of players who have no sponsor but only look like they do because they buy the clothes.


The Great Davy Says:

In 2006 the Australian Open they had pity me and gave a free hat from gift store, to wear during my chok— I meant, eh, Quarter Final against Federer…


racquet Says:

Isner down a break in the 3rd. Not a good 2013 for him so far.


the DA Says:

Wow. Isner goes out to Hewitt. There are more seeds dropping today than a sunflower in late summer.


mat4 Says:

Whenever I watch Connors, it reminds me why I am a fan of Djokovic: Novak looks just like the enhanced, modern version of Jimbo. There are differences, of course, but the overall shape of their game is similar: big return, big BH, that ability to move the ball around and make the opponent run, the will to go forward.

In 1988, Jimmy was 36 but, in my opinion, played the best tennis of his life. He finally managed to switch racquet, he improved immediately his FH, his volley and his defensive game.

In the meantime, Hewitt won against Isner.


racquet Says:

Isner out. Federer’s quarter just became a little lighter.


racquet Says:

What on earth is going on with Verdasco? Losing 6-1 6-0 to Neimenen?


jane Says:

It’s hard to predict with Hewitt nowadays.


the DA Says:

The Murray brothers just knocked out Lindstedt and Zimonjić (the 5th seeds). Hope this gives Andy a winning frame of mind (and to forget the last couple of years there).

Meanwhile Federer is rolling over Istomin as expected.


the DA Says:

Murray is 2nd on Stadium tomorrow, Djokovic 4th. Not too much sleep deprivation. thankfully.

Nalbandian about to lose to Jerzy. And Simon about to lose to Lorenzi. That would be yet another seed from the Ferrer-less qtr.


Humble Rafa Says:

“The champions gather for the IW big dig. Larry Ellison greets all with a handshake and Rafael Nadal gets a special hug”.

Larry and I go back. Plus I use Oracle, and Peoplesoft :).


jane Says:

Benneteau won’t be around to trouble Fed again by the looks of it; Dodig has the better of him thus far. I think Benneteau likes a faster court, hence he did well in Dubai and he usually plays quite well at Wimbledon and in Paris.


nadalista Says:

RT @TennisReporters: “ATP Players Council’s Kevin Anderson: enforcement of time violation rule up 4 debate at Miami meeting. He’s in favor, but uniformity needed ”

Now, why is this up for debate so soon if they voted for it in the first place?


nadalista Says:

This, cannot be good:

RT @Janie5Jones: DelPo’s treating his left wrist with ice & anti-inflammatories. He’s in contact with his doctor from the Mayo Clinic.


mat4 Says:

@Nadalista:

If I remember well, K. Anderson is one of the slowest player on Tour. Of course he doesn’t like the new rule.


jane Says:

When is Rafa playing??


jane Says:

Also, very sad if true about Delpo. : /


juljo724 Says:

Agree with jane and nadalista… I pray that Delpo’s injury is not career-threatening. Have always liked him and he is always so nice and polite, plus he hits really hard!


the DA Says:

@Jane – I think he’s on in about 40 mins, as long as the Azarenka match finishes before 7.00pm


the DA Says:

Ah, Vika just won.


Karthick Says:

When is the Rafa match starting???


nadalista Says:

Rafa on court!!


jane Says:

Thanks for the updates.

I see Gasquet is beating Bernard. I was wondering if he would.


Alok Says:

Too bad for Juan. According to my mom, injuries pertaining to wrists and shoulders never heal completely due to over-use. Juan has been playing a lot of tennis of late, which most probably accounts for this flare-up.

I only hope these repeated flare-ups will not cause him to retire sooner than he’d want to happen. He’s my second fave.


jane Says:

Harrison made too many volleying mistakes in that game.


jane Says:

Rafa’s relentlessly pounding Harrison’s backhand, so far to good effect!


nadalista Says:

Terrible game by Rafa, Harrison breaks back…


the DA Says:

Poor game from Rafa let’s Harrison get the break back.


jane Says:

Agree: odd game by Rafa there. Harrison hung in there mostly, and in this game to even it up he played well. 4-all.


the DA Says:

^^ lets

Ryan seems to be growing in confidence. Volleying better with each game.


nadalista Says:

More UEs off the forehand for Rafa….


nadalista Says:

Good tie-break by Rafa, terrible set overall. Four double faults, forehand going awol. Rafa did his best to lose the set but Harrison wouldn’t oblige….

1st set Rafa.


The Great Davy Says:

Tipsarevic stink so bad, someone stop giving him donkey cheese!


the DA Says:

The other top players won’t be as forthcoming as Ryan. Hopefully Rafa can play himself into form before the QF. He’ll need to based on tonight’s evidence. There are some good signs though.


jane Says:

i thought that Ryan played a crap tiebreak; Rafa was focused but lots of UEs from Harrison too. I don’t think Harrison played his best in that first set either. He’s served better in the past.


jane Says:

Whoa, Ernests is spanking Janko!


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Such a pleasure to see Rafa back. Novak might have the best FH, but the swing of Rafa on the FH side is such a pleasure to watch. Though he is making more mistakes from that side and the depth is not upto his usual level, he can only improve as he plays more matches. It should be a great contest between him and Berdych in the semis, if Berdych gets through his quarter.


nadalista Says:

Nut that’s exactly my point @jane, Rafa was there for the taking in that set but Harrison could not capitalise…..


jane Says:

Great net point by those two. Rafa’s reflexes were stunning, ha ha.


jane Says:

nadalista, yep, I got that from your “Harrison wouldn’t oblige” comment. :)


nadalista Says:

^^But, not Nut…..


jane Says:

Harrison is broken; methinks that’s the match.


nadalista Says:

Nice cross court backhand to break for Rafa…..

Now will the real Rafael Nadal please stand up!!!


skeezer Says:

Ryan / Rafa interesting? C’mon!

Tipsy / Gulbis match of the moment.


jane Says:

Lol, nadalista – slim shady??


nadalista Says:

How can a 2,0 Tipsy beat-down by Gulbis be interesting? At least Rafa-Harrison has the whiff of an upset if only Harrison could clear his head…


nadalista Says:

Now Harrison decides to implode compeletely, 2nd break Rafa.

Sorry, but Rafa is NOT playing well at all and any half-decent player would have taken this……

And here he is 2 games away from a W.


skeezer Says:

Because its an upset!


the DA Says:

A 6-2 6-0 match is interesting? okay. IMHO, the Nalby/Jerzy match was the best one today.

Rafa is cruising now.


jane Says:

The first set of Harrison/Nadal had some really fun moments. Neither were at their best, but there were flashes, and there were some entertaining points.


nadalista Says:

One thing I will give Rafa though, his net play has been sumptuous…1st class.


skeezer Says:

Gulbis / Tipsy is waaaay more interesting. Tipsy was a giod seed, Gulbis has personality.

All your doing is seeing if Rafa, winner of 11 Slams, should be doing to a very weak opponet. Predictable. In the end, he’ll win course!

#koolaid


skeezer Says:

@the DA
Agreed. Match of the day.


nadalista Says:

@skeezer, be serious. Tipsy has been a train-wreck for a long time now. Yours is the only review I am reading which is giving Tipsy any credit. In fact, I suspect Tipsy is playing injured, why he would do that beats me…….

Not taking away from Gulbis, he is cruising…..good for him.


nadalista Says:

Confirm: Tipsy was not 100%

Rafa wins because he is just too talented, not because he played well.

Vamos!!!

Now, hopefully he can relax…….


the DA Says:

Rafa through to play Mayer.


nadalista Says:

Rafa won 14of 15 net points played, Harrison 13 of 30


nadalista Says:

RT @juanjo_sports: “If you’re a top 10 player and you lose to Gulbis 2 and 0, you should be fined.”


skeezer Says:

Tipsy was a relative high seed coming in. Gulbis, depending on the asstrology alignment, can play lights out or check out. Yes, to me, that is more intriguing!

——

Congrats to Fed in his FirstRd beatdown of a quality opponet!


schizer Says:

Ha ha ha skeezer.

Gongratz to Rafa for beating down a nonquality opponent!


nadalista Says:

^^He’s the GOAT, for goodness’ sake, should make mince meat of everyone, no?

#koolaid


nadalista Says:

On the other hand:

First match on hard court for Rafa;
Clearly lacking in confidence, his go-to shot, the forehand mis-firing, serve not working well in spite of the high first serve percentage, too many DFs,

However, backhand looked solid, net play fantastic. His forehand will come, so will his confidence.

Next up: Leonardo Mayer.

Vamos!!!


jane Says:

“Rafa won 14of 15 net points played, Harrison 13 of 30″

Aye, there’s the rub – Harrison had a plan to come in and not try to trade blows with Rafa, but alas his volleying was subpar tonight and his serve was nowhere near consistent. Meanwhile when Rafa did come in, he played well. But he was also good – overall – from the back of the court. Neither guy served his best, and I don’t think Rafa returned as well as I’ve seen him.


Brando Says:

Congrats to rafa on the win! First match on HC after 346 days- were folks really expecting a masterclass from him today? LOL: folks with high expectations need to get real! It’s his first match back on HC- scrappy play mixed with moments of genuine quality were to be expected. On to the next one now!


nadalista Says:

@jane, from what I’ve seen of Rafa’s play in South America and his match against Harrison, we can forget about Rafa chasing every ball now. I think we should expect to see more aggressive play from Rafa rather than defensive play. The higher UEs, more forays into the net, going for winners more and the return of his DTL, especially backhand, attest to that.

Disturbing for me was Harrison’s showing, didn’t justify the hype. Without a good serving day he has nothing. If this the great hope of American men’s tennis, I shudder. Worrying indeed.


nadalista Says:

Tignor’s take of the Rafa-Harrison match. I agree with his take on Rafa’s game and play, I disagree with him on Harrison’s. There is no way one can describe Harrison’s serve and volley tactic as effective, it was a disaster. The moments Harrison appeared effective was in the mid to end part of the first set when Rafa was going through a mini “crisis” of his own.

http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2013/03/indian-wells-nadal-d-harrison/46739/#.UTwno1dX62t


nadalista Says:

Rafa’s take of his play in the 6th game in the 1st set, the game we all decided was a disaster:

RT SI_BTBaseline: Rafa sarcasm is good sarcasm: ” I played fantastic game in the 4 2 with one double fault, three forehands outside of the stadium.”


jane Says:

Makes sense nadalista, what you say about the more aggressive play. Especially given that he doesn’t want to get re-injured. Also the double faults could be because he was “going for it” more on his second serves than he might normally. Again, trying to end the point more quickly rather than rolling it in, so to speak.. Mind you the wind could’ve been a factor too.


Giles Says:

Well done my Champ. On to the next round. #VamosKing


Margot Says:

Envying all you guys from across the pond watching IW :(
Yay! Andy and Jamie won and Andy got some much needed match play.
@ the DA
tentatively wondering if WD40 could be put back in cupboard…..


Thomas Says:

I thought gulbis played superb tennis. In fact,his level of play has been great this season.(he claims to have refocused,and his only 2 losses were close ones against berdych or del potro) The way gulbis was playing, I don’t think it would have mattered how well tipsarevic was playing.


nadalista Says:

Rafa at his philosophical best, Rafans, enjoy!

http://www.tennisreporters.net/archives/10332

“I am saying that today about the hard courts, because if I had to answer that question in 2005, 2006, maybe I will not answer that question, because seems like I am just having this opinion because I prefer to play on clay because I am much better on clay than hard. But today, after winning a lot of tournaments on hard and having a fantastic career, if we pull out all my clay court titles and just analyze my career outside of clay, I had, much better career that I ever dreamed. Because I was able to play very well on hard for a long time. I win a lot of important tournaments on hard, and that’s give me the confidence to say that to you.”

So true, Champ, so true…..

Vamos


Kimberly Says:

I thought Nadal was good and bad—he clearly mistimed some sitter put-away forehands. He also made some amazing shots particular to his style of game with his racket head acceleration. So there was good and bad. Although Djokovic, Murray and Federer likely would have wiped the court with him last night, it was a nice first match back on HC. I would love to see him play Gulbis in the 4th round with the way Gulbis has been playing. May be very exciting and dramatic.


rafaeli Says:

nadalista Says:
RT @TennisReporters: “ATP Players Council’s Kevin Anderson: enforcement of time violation rule up 4 debate at Miami meeting. He’s in favor, but uniformity needed ”

“Now, why is this up for debate so soon if they voted for it in the first place?”

They didn’t vote for it. Rafa found out through a journalist. Delpo was up in arms asking who voted for it in the first place.


nadalista Says:

^^^well, sounds like there is no transparency in the Players’ Council. Maybe this is why Rafa resigned from it……can’t see Rafa going along with chicanery.


Giles Says:

So, now that the players are aware of the fact that this rule was not voted for by them, is there much they can do to change it?
Why did the ATP lie in the first place?


skeezer Says:

Rafanatics whine club continues, the only fan club that consistently complains, why is that?. Speed it up its a sport, not a chess match. Even Chess matched Are timed, lol.

http://www.stevegtennis.com/2013/01/beat-the-clock-atps-new-time-rule/


skeezer Says:

First if all, the premise of the rule was always there. Secondly, the majority of players haven’t complained. , and the top3 endorse it, thirdly, who is complaining? A few Slow players!


Giles Says:

^^^ Stop posting stale news. We know all about the rule. What we don’t know is who put it in place. Even though iinitially it was said the players voted for it, it has now been revealed that they did not.
That is the point skeezer.
Not whining just showing up the ATP for their lies (?)!!


alison Says:

I didnt see the match,but going by what everybodys saying,it will do for starters,although obviously theres bound to be room for improvement,nice to hear that Rafas been more agressive,and also going to the net more,and finishing points of quicker,and not seeing so many long rallies,and going DTL more,sounds like a good strategy anyway,good going Rafa,all a work in progress.


nadalista Says:

“……the majority of players haven’t complained. ,”

Well, if it’s only a few slow players who are complaining and the majority of the players voted for it, why is the issue on the agenda of the Miami meeting? Are you telling me these few slow players have this much power?

Try again, skeezer.


nadalista Says:

So if the Top 3 endorse something everybody else should just put up and shut up? North Korea would be proud of this form of administration!

No wonder Rafa distanced himself from this kind of high-hand behaviour…………


alison Says:

Off topic just to say HAPPY MOTHERS DAY to all the lady posters on the Tennis -X forum,hope you are all having a lovely day :-)..


nadalista Says:

Thank you @Alison. Happy Mothers’ Day to you too, and all mothers posting on tennis-x blog.


Giles Says:

alison. Would you like a link to the full match?


juljo724 Says:

Mother’s Day? That isn’t until May? But still all Mother’s should be given their props EVERY day!


alison Says:

Nadalista thanks for that too,unfortunatly im not one,and i havent got one either,but i suppose its still regarded as ladies day anyway,which is what we say to the old girls in the care home where i work.


juljo724 Says:

Majority of players did NOT vote for the time rule. The ATP Board of Directors did back in September according to the link skeezer provided.


nadalista Says:

Thank goodness Rafa is not intimidated by anyone, that’s why he is the only one with a positive H2H against each of the “powerful” top 3.


alison Says:

Julijo 724 i dont know where you are,or if you celebrate it where you are?but here in Blighty its mothers day today,celebrated in March not May.


alison Says:

Giles yes please.


Giles Says:

I heard on the grapevine a little while ago that Mr Federer has a few stooges on the ATP Board. Him not wanting Richard Krajicek on the Bosrd goes some way to proving this.


nadalista Says:

Thanks for correcting my wrong assumption @alison. I am quite sure there is nothing unfortunate about you not being a Mum, I know you are blessed in a whole lot of ways, one of which is being a good person and having the good sense to be a Rafan!

Have a nice day.


alison Says:

I havent actually seen Rafa play since returning from injury,but as a fan i do hope he is speeding things up between points.


nadalista Says:

^^^he is, but he does not like the application of the new enforcement rules.


alison Says:

Thanks Nadalista,no offence was taken honestly.


alison Says:

Thankyou Giles.


Giles Says:

^^ Enjoy.


nadalista Says:

So why did Baby Fed lie? What was his motivation? In Australia, he said the majority of the players had voted for the rule enforcement, which, it turns out, was a complete and utter lie.


juljo724 Says:

Sorry alison, I was freaking out only because that would’ve meant I forgot to get my Mom something and hadn’t even called her yet. I am in the US and I didn’t realize that it was different in other countries. Happy Mother’s Day to all!


Giles Says:

http://alturl.com/dwhge
Read the article.
This time violation business was instigated by Mr Federer.


juljo724 Says:

Members elected by their peers to serve on the ATP Player Council through June 2014 are:

1-50 Singles: Kevin Anderson, Roger Federer, Jarkko Nieminen, Gilles Simon
51-100 Singles: Robin Haase, Sergiy Stakhovsky
1-100 Doubles: Mahesh Bhupathi, Eric Butorac
At-Large: James Cerretani, Andre Sa
Alumni: Brian Gottfried
Coach: Claudio Pistolesi (also served 2010-12)


skeezer Says:

Friggin hilarious stuff here. Fed being called a liar, etc twisting the point. Rafa has been the biggest abuser of the time violation rule, period. Something needed to be done and the ATP finally took action.


juljo724 Says:

Skeezer, do you know the difference between the ATP Players Council, ATP Board of Directors and the ATP Competition Committee and who is on these various things and how the voting works? Even fed doesn’t believe in shot clocks on the court, as was suggested on here that should be used.


Giles Says:

^^^ Friggin hilarious indeed. ATP said the players voted which was a lie. No doubt Mr Federer’s stooges at work!!!


Giles Says:

My last post is for skeezer


juljo724 Says:

Technically Giles, it was not a lie. The ATP BOD voted and reps from the Players Council are present along with other members of various tennis related stuff.

I hesitate to believe blindly, anything posted on a blog since it can be twisted, as we all know. Leave out a sentence or paragraph or word and sometimes the context in which something was said is lost. I will however believe more an article from Reuters or AP or on the ATP official site, etc.


juljo724 Says:

From my digging, (just googling so it wasn’t hard to find), I found that it was the ATP Competition Committee that initiated the time violation debate.


Giles Says:

juljo724 . But we were lead to believe that there was a majority vote from the PLAYERS which clearly is not the case.


juljo724 Says:

Giles,
“NEW YORK — At its recent meetings in New York, the ATP Board of Directors approved a rule change and a trial for the 2013 season, both proposed by the new ATP Competition Committee.”

“The new rule was endorsed by the ATP player’s council last month but stricter enforcement at warm-up tournaments ahead of next week’s Australian Open has raised concerns from players about a crackdown at the year’s first grand slam where five-set matches in extreme heat often feature.”

Technically, the players council votes on an issue, hopefully listening to the majority of the thousands of players, and they present “their” side at the ATP BOD meetings. They did not propose the time violation change to the BOD, the Competition Committee did. The players council has 2 people represent them at the BOD meetings, in which they can voice their approval or not.


juljo724 Says:

I cannot find info on what the actual numbers were for any of the votes on this subject, but for it to be presented as for it by the Players Council, it had to have been a majority, even if that majority was, since I don’t know actual numbers offhand of number of players, I am just using as an example… a vote of 51-49. Not overwhelming for sure, but a majority nonetheless.


Giles Says:

juljo724. Thanks you have been very helpful.


juljo724 Says:

No problem Giles, glad to have helped.


skeezer Says:

juljo724,

Thanks for the 3:20 post, didn’t have time ATM to dig up the facts against all the innuendos and misinformation posters were posting…. was well aware how things came down with the time rule.


Purcell Says:

Giles: rather disappointed that you choose to refer to any ‘article’ by Chris Chase.
Oh and who are the Federer stooges?
Am I mistaken in thinking that Tennisx is turning into Tennistalk? Know what I mean?

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