Federer, Nadal Meet Again In The Rome Final, Who’s The Pick?
by Sean Randall | May 18th, 2013, 5:26 pm
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After two rather sluggish semifinals, the right guys have emerged to the Sunday Rome Masters final: It’s Roger Federer v Rafael Nadal, episode 30! More on the rivalry in a bit, but first a quick recap of today’s play.

Nadal did what he normally does to Tomas Berdych, and that is get the big fellow moving. It got tighter in the second but Nadal was really without duress in a 6-2, 6-4 victory. After two 3-setters against Ernests Gulbis and David Ferrer, it must have been nice for Nadal to get a quick win over a dangerous bird like Berdych. And he’s in his eighth final in eight events this year. Simply amazing.

“Eight finals in a row is wonderful,” said Nadal. “Four to five months ago it was impossible to think about this. I hope to play very well. Any result will be fantastic.”

In the second semi, Federer overcame a break to the bad in the first set to put away the quirky Frenchman Benoit Paire 7-6, 6-4. Roger wasn’t anywhere near his sharpest on the day, but he did just enough for a win that puts him into his first ATP final of the season. But he’ll have to play much better to stay with Nadal tomorrow if he’s going to walk away with the trophy.

Roger Federer v. Rafael Nadal
It’s not their first meeting of the year. The two greats locked up in a one-sided affair at Indian Wells won easily by Nadal. Roger was really struggling with his back in that one, and thus far this week, despite an extra shirt to keep him (the back?) warm, he’s showed no hints of any ailments. Then again, neither has Nadal who’s knees are always a concern.

So with both guys healthy and in good spirits, at least it should be a better match than their last meeting – not saying much!

Nadal of course leads big in this rivalry 19-10. And most importantly in this situation is he’s 12-2 against Roger on the clay. Surprisingly, though, Federer still plays him tough on this surface. The last time they played on dirt was at the 2011 French Open, and Federer played three very good sets before losing in four.

That same year Roger got a set from Rafa in Madrid. And before that they split two previous clay meetings also in Madrid in 2010 and 2009.

So I think it will be close yet again.

And Roger has been offering up his best tennis since the Australian Open this week. Aided by a friendly draw, Federer blasted through Potito Starache then Gilles Simon before facing some resistance from future Top 5-er Jerzy Janowicz. Though today was by far his worst performance on the week – many errors, plenty of shanks. And cause for some concern.

That said, maybe because of the slowness, the clay gives Federer that extra time to plot and prod his opponents. So as he gets older perhaps he’ll have his best results on the dirt? It’s softer on the body, allows him to get to more balls and strategy, nerves and fitness play a greater role than on hardcourts, I think.

As for Nadal, we know what surface he prefers, and his loves Rome. Nadal is 40-2 in his career winning six titles at the Foro Italico. Since returning to tennis in February the guy has reached the finals of all eight tournaments he’s played, winning five. Would anyone have dreamed such a run? No way. Not even when he was at his peak.

But despite the lofty results Nadal is not at his best right now. We all know it. He got pushed around by Gulbis the other day and Ferrer, at 31, seems to be on the brink of that elusive clay win – David should have won last week! So I do detect some vulnerability in Rafa’s game. It’s not as lethal and airtight as it was 2-3 years ago when he was virtually unplayable on the surface. Rafa’s winning again, but not in the same dominating fashion. The backhand isn’t quite as sound and his court positioning seems awry.

Therefore, I think Roger has a shot here, albeit a slim one. While he can’t muster the Gulbis power, he can and likely will be on the offensive right from the start. He has to be. And if he’s connecting and forcing Rafa deeper in the court I think he can win.

As usual, Roger will have to serve good and keep the error count low. Nadal will be whipping that forehand again, but it’s his backhand that has been a burden of late. If that wing continues to falter and Roger’s attacking it then picking off the replies at the net, then look out.

Remember Baby Fed Dimitrov had Rafa on the ropes last Month!

“It almost doesn’t matter what the surface or what the conditions are. I’ve got to play aggressive tennis and take it to Rafa,” assessed Federer. “I know he doesn’t give me much on clay. He’s got incredible spin.

“He is the best mover on clay of all-time, if not Top 2 with Bjorn Borg, so it’s hard to play against him. But I’ve done it before and can put him under pressure,” Federer added. “I hope this time I have a better chance than at Indian Wells, where things were a bit difficult for me. He’s had an incredible comeback, so I’m really happy for him. But someone has got to stop him, so I hope it’s me.”

So to me the match comes down to Rafa using his forehand to Roger’s backhand and vice-versa. And Roger being ultra aggressive like he was when they played a classic in Rome back in 2006.

And what’s a little worrisome is Rafa just played his worst match of the tournament, Nadal maybe his best.

Still, Roger’s a champion and playing against Rafa he’ll bring his best stuff. Unfortunately at 31 his best just won’t be enough against the King of Clay on his surface of choice. Let’s enjoy think rivalry while we still can.
The pick: Nadal in two

Tennis Channel has live coverage of the men’s Rome final starting at 10am ET. The women’s clash between Serena Williams and Victoria Azarenka is at 7:30am ET.


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198 Comments for Federer, Nadal Meet Again In The Rome Final, Who’s The Pick?

Steve 27 Says:

I know the answer but I Keep it, after all, like Calderon de la Barca said:

What is life? A madness. What is life? An illusion, a shadow, a story. And the greatest good is little enough: for all life is a dream, and dreams themselves are only dreams.
Variant:
What is this life? A frenzy, an illusion,
A shadow, a delirium, a fiction.
The greatest good’s but little, and this life
Is but a dream, and dreams are only dreams.


Kimmi Says:

I think Serena vs azarenka should be a good match


madmax Says:

Who would have thought after fed having a “better” draw, and avoiding nadal in the QFs or SFs…we all thought he would play Murray! The twist now, being that the legends of the game are to face each other in the final.

Come on Roger! You got to the final, do your best against the best ever on clay and we fed fans can be happy.

Love the fed!


Humble Rafa Says:

“Rivalry” is ashamed to be associated with this match up.


M Says:

Then I’m thinking “rivalry” needs to muster up a little respect.

In every RG final from 2005 (Puerta) to 2009, when he wasn’t in it, Roger was Rafa’s opponent. I mean, he can’t play air. Roger was considered the #2 active claycourt player in the world at the time, in a world that included other standouts like Fernando Gonzalez and Juan Carlos Ferrero. (I think David Ferrer has gotten even better since then, but I’m not sure that’s here or there for the purposes of this discussion.)

Rafa says in his post-match final that it’s an honor for him to play against “the best of the history”. I’m convinced both gentlemen came to play, and am looking forward to a competitive match.

Vamos! Allez!


steve-o Says:

C’mon Roger! Show them that age is just a number!


Humble Rafa Says:

Today was a crazy day. Rafa Nation was rooting for the Arrogant One and the Arrotards were rooting for a guy they couldn’t differentiate from a lamp post 3 weeks ago.

Anyway, I have what I want for tomorrow. Time to go to bed.


Forehand Says:

The top four clay couters today are Rafa, Nole, Ferru and Berdy. We all know how Federer got to the final.


Wog boy Says:

@van orten:

Thanks for that, Roger is at ease and relaxed, really nice interview by Roger.


skeezer Says:

Sean,

Good write, And a fair prediction, Rafa in 2.

Although the Rafa fandom trys to hype this match up, facts are facts. Rog is 31. On top of all this, it is Rafa’s favorite surface by far, and Fed, although great on Clay, has a pale record against Rafa on it. Rafa has 11 Slams on the dirt mud! C’mon!

With Rafa’s H2H record against Fed on Clay, why wouldn’t a Rafa fan say there yearning for this matchup , anyday on Clay. Don’t care too much about the outcome here, cause if Fed was ever gonna win a title against Rafa on Clay, it would be the most poetic at FO. Just think now he is too old ( age is not an excuse, just a fact ) to do it. Unless of course he can do it in straight sets…….now that would be a friggin miracle! Do hope it is an entertaining match for us fans.

Fedal matchups are attracting. Sampras/Agassi and Mac/Borg drew a great audience due to the contrast in styles. Hope after Fedals are gone we get something like it again. They’re great theater.

#pongstylewillkilltennis


skeezer Says:

“Time to go to bed.”

night night RFF.


Wog boy Says:

Forhend,

I have to disagree, beating JJ, for example, is not that easy, ask Tsonga and some others. On the other hand, who did Rafa beat that are not his puppets on a string every given day.


skeezer Says:

“Forehand Says:
The top four clay couters today are Rafa, Nole, Ferru and Berdy. We all know how Federer got to the final.”

#badjoke
#jealousyexposed


Forehand Says:

The lengevity of oldies like Federer, Ferrer, Haas, etc show that the tennis shelf life is getting extended and this means that Nole and Rafa will have many more years to pile up their own records.


Wog boy Says:

Ok, Gulbis is not, but then again, Gulbis is Gulbis.


gannu Says:

guess for the first time sean’s jinx is not gonna work and he will be right…hope feddy bear atleast puts a fight….damn tired of seeing him losing…Ghosh when am i going to see him lift the trophy???


suresh Says:

The Rome final has no importance since Nole is not playing. Rafa is not playing his best. He is beatable. Nole is saving his best for RG. Watch out for him in the RG.


nadalista Says:

Full moon………..


alison Says:

Nice interview from Roger,these two players show each other an enormous amount of respect,its a great rivalry.


alison Says:

Suresh i agree in that Nole will still be a big threat at RG no doubt about that,however because he failed to make the final doesnt make this final any the less important,its important to Rafa and Rogers fans,Novak will bounce back hes an amazing player,but tennis still goes on regardless with or without Nole in a final,tennis is not just about one player be it Nole/Rafa/Roger whomever.


nadalista Says:

Tiggy:

http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2013/05/classico-returns-foro/47504/#.UZhxbspRCDc

“Before Federer and Nadal play these days, we’re always told that we should enjoy it, that we won’t see too many more matches between them. Federer is over 30, Nadal’s knees are deteriorating, the sky is falling, and tennis will soon be dying. But this is already the second time they’ve faced each other in last two months, and in their current form there’s no reason they won’t do it a few more times in 2013 alone. When it comes to Nadal and Federer, we’re always talking about the coming decline. But it’s a decline that never seems to come for either of them. Now they’re back in the final in Rome, seven years after their first one.”

I guess the “young ones” decided to let Fedal have another last, last hurray, they have more important things to do……


WTF Says:

Fed’s draw was a gift from the tennis gods. It doesn’t get easier than that.


Giles Says:

Fed played Fairy in the semis, Rafa played World no. 6. That says it all!
Vamos Rafa!


Forehand Says:

As a Rafa fan I am really thankful to the draw Gods for getting Federer to meet Rafa in the finals.


WTF Says:

BTW, Nole will win calendar grand slam this year. He’s the only guy that can beat Rafa on clay. And he did it in Monte Carlo while injured! Didn’t drop a set against the best player on clay, 8 time defending champ, undefeated. The other surfaces he’s a lock in.

You heard it here first.

Mark my words.


Giles Says:

^^^ Joker was injured in Monte Carlo?? Really???


WTF Says:

^ And in the unthinkable worst case scenario where he fails to win the French Open, he will clean up the remaining slams. Federer is his only challenger at Wimbledon, and if he wasn’t turning 32 in a few months he’d be a legitimate challenger, but Djokovic is still in his prime.

I can see a career with 15+ slams in his cabinet if he doesn’t get injured. And if he gets injured regularly, maybe 12+?


WTF Says:

Giles Says:

“^^^ Joker was injured in Monte Carlo?? Really???”

Giles, he injured his ankle the tournament before Monte Carlo, and said he was in doubt for MC.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/tennis/22078976


Forehand Says:

Wog boy Says:
“On the other hand, who did Rafa beat that are not his puppets on a string every given day.”

On clay every tennis player on earth is Rafa’s puppet (except Nole who was not good enough to get to meet Rafa).


WTF Says:

http://tvnz.co.nz/tennis-news/injury-puts-djokovic-in-doubt-monte-carlo-5407076

Injury puts Djokovic in doubt for Monte Carlo

Djokovic, who lives in Monaco, lost to eight-time champion Rafa Nadal in last year’s final at the first big claycourt event of the season and sprained his ankle playing for Serbia in the Davis Cup last weekend.

He has practised for the last two days, but has not fully recovered.

“I can’t still 100% guarantee that I’ll be on the court on Wednesday,” the top-seeded Djokovic said today. “I’ll decide on Tuesday, at least to give time to another player just in case I don’t play.

“Strenghthening my ankle is still in the process. Things are looking good, better than I expected it to be.

“But I have to be realistic and cautious, and see on some practices in the next few days, when I push myself to the limits, if I’m going to have any discomfort. It’ll be an indication that I should not play.”

Twice runner-up to Nadal at the glamourous event by the Mediterranean, Djokovic said he would not take any risks.

“Let’s be honest, it’s a very strong tournament and I think there’s no room for any compromise,” he said.

“It’s a new surface, a new start of the season and in order to compete on such a high level, I need to be 100%, no question about it.”


WTF Says:

Giles, if Rafa couldn’t beat a Novak with a bum ankle in his pet tournament where he is undefeated for 8 years, what are his chances at beating a 100% Novak in Paris? He almost got pushed to a 5th set (had there not been a rain delay I think it would have gone to a 5th), where I think he would have lost if it had gone to 5.

Rafa is the most accomplished player on clay, but right now, Nole is the most skillful player on all surfaces including clay. A few upsets notwithstanding, when the stakes are high (like a GS) he will beat guys people don’t expect him to beat (like Rafa).

When the stakes are low (ATP1000 series) he doesn’t try as hard.

I’d like to remind you all of AO 2012 where he had to win a 5 set semi final to make the final and had only 1 day of rest, while Rafa had an easy semi and 2 days of rest. Then the final ended up being the longest AO final ever, and when it got to 5 sets, you’d think Nole would be spent right? Rafa had an easier path in and more rest. But who got tired first? Rafa. And this is a guy you don’t normally see get tired. Nole on the other hand, used to be.

You could break the guy’s leg and make him have to play a best of 7 while you pick any challenger to play a best of 5 against him (Nole must win 4 sets to win, opponent only needs to win 3), and my money would still be on Nole.

Pick any player on any surface. I’m willing to take you on. He’s the best player I’ve ever seen. It’s just sad for him that he didn’t really bloom until 23 ish. Had he gotten as good as he is now at say 20, he might finish his career with 20+ slams.


Michael Says:

It is quite difficult not to pick Rafa in a clay final after what he has done there. It seems good that Roger has made his first tournament final of the year and unfortunately he has run into Nadal against whom he doesn’t enjoy a good match-up especially on Clay. That being said, I still think Roger will have a slim chance in this match if he serves pretty well and Nadal’s level slightly dithers which is possible considering that he always produces his best Tennis whenever he meets Roger. May be this time it would be different and Rafa would have a let down. We never know. If that happens, then Roger will have his chance. If it doesn’t then we have to go with the Sean pick and ie. Rafa in two with one tight set.


Michael Says:

More on this match. There is no pressure on Roger in this match to win since he is the underdog here despite being seeded above Nadal. Rafa is the undisputed king of Clay and he is always expected to win and so the pressure will only be on Nadal. But he has handled such pressures very well before and I do not expect him to succumb to it. Roger can hope for a decent match if he plays his best Tennis.


John Says:

^^^
”When the stakes are low (ATP1000 series) he doesn’t try as hard.”

”Pick any player on any surface. I’m willing to take you on.”
———————

Come on, is that a joke?

You make it sound like Djkovic is soooo good on every surface…How come Federer and Nadal have Dominated the Slams for most of his career’s?

Novak has one Wimbledon, one USO and Zero Rolland Garros..

And to be honest,the only thing that allowed him to get those US and Wimby titles is the decline of Roger. Rafa’s maybe also not his best anymore , so who knows?


John Says:

@WTF

“”And in the unthinkable worst case scenario where he fails to win the French Open, he will clean up the remaining slams”"

———————

Like last year? :)

Djokovic is in his Prime, agree there. Fed is old,yes.


Forehand Says:

WTF,

“Giles, if Rafa couldn’t beat a Novak with a bum ankle in his pet tournament where he is undefeated for 8 years, what are his chances at beating a 100% Novak in Paris?”

If Nole could not get through the earlier rounds against lower ranked players when he is at his best, what are his chances of getting to meet Rafa in semis or finals (let alone beat him) ?


John Says:

^
Its not that he couldn’t get through the early rounds, he wasn’t trying! :))


Fedster Says:

“He’s the best player I’ve ever seen.”

WTF,
Are you following tennis only from 2011 ?


WTF Says:

“Roger can hope for a decent match if he plays his best Tennis.”

When did he last play his best?

“You make it sound like Djkovic is soooo good on every surface…How come Federer and Nadal have Dominated the Slams for most of his career’s?”

I already answered that. He didn’t bloom until he was around 23. He had fitness issues and asthma.

When he overcame that, the glory days Nadal and Federer enjoyed were starting to close. This season will define the future for them both. If these guys don’t take at least one slam this season, they are done. It’s going to be all Djokovic from here.

“Novak has one Wimbledon, one USO and Zero Rolland Garros..”

What’s your point? Before 2004, Roger Federer had 0 AOs, 0 FOs, 0 USO, and 1 Wimbledon. Look what happened to him next.

“And to be honest,the only thing that allowed him to get those US and Wimby titles is the decline of Roger. Rafa’s maybe also not his best anymore , so who knows?”

It looks like a decline, but only because of Nole’s rise. Fed proved last year he was still good enough to contend for the big titles. Nole last year was down 2 sets and faced 2 championship points in set 5 against Roger at the USO. He saved one of those with a gutsy go for broke return of serve down the line. He ended up winning that, and then taking the title. It takes a lot of heart to do what he did, and that wasn’t the first time he’s given Roger a 5 set heartbreak.

“Like last year? :)”

He’s a better player than he was last year. He beat Nadal in Monte Carlo. The first player to have ever done that. He’s the only player who has beaten Nadal in all 3 clay masters series. He will win the French and then ride the momentum for the rest of the year.

Last year he lost to Fed at Wimbledon. But Fed is now a year older, and after 30 every year makes a bigger difference than it does after 20.

“If Nole could not get through the earlier rounds against lower ranked players when he is at his best, what are his chances of getting to meet Rafa in semis or finals (let alone beat him) ?”

I already explained this. Smaller tournaments he doesn’t care as much. When there’s something big on the line (like a French Open) he will bring his A game. Who was the guy who beat him in Madrid again? And Rome? I don’t even remember. To me they are nobodies. But would you be willing to bet your house that either of these two guys can beat him in Paris?

“Its not that he couldn’t get through the early rounds, he wasn’t trying! :))”

Someone who can beat the best player on clay on his favorite surface loses to someone I’ve never heard of. I guess you’re going to say this someone I’ve never heard of is a better clay court player than Rafa?

He didn’t care enough. How else would you explain it?

And then there’s best of 5 vs best of 3. If it were best of 5, he’d have a chance to still come back and win, which I think he will.

“WTF, Are you following tennis only from 2011 ?”

No one denies what Federer and Pete have done. But they didn’t play against a post 2011 Novak. Sure, Nole was around before 2011, but he wasn’t anywhere near as good. He hadn’t reached his prime yet. So Federer & Rafa took the spoils while they were still on the table and easy to take.


Ahsan Najeeb Says:

Federer needs to adopt similar strategy against Rafa that is employed by Rafa against Fed…. Keep the ball on his backhand and keep it flat enough so that Rafa does not get time to run around it… Just occasionally surprise Rafa on his forehand … It is easier said than done but Rafa’s backhand lately has been fragile and leaking more UEs than usual… Plus backhand of Rafa does not hurt much… He rarely hits backhand winners these days…. Fed should be hitting practice courts today to master backhand DTLs and forehand cross courts…. He needs them to be accurate today…. He also needs to take the backhand early if he wants to go CC cuz that will create more angle and give less time for Rafa to retrieve on FH side.


courbon Says:

@Alison: Nice post!You are getting wiser every day..( little tease but I also mean it)
@WTF: I’m big Novaks fan, and as much I would love to agree with you with Novaks chances at RG
I don’t think it would be that easy. Can Novak beats Rafa in RG? Off course he can but so does Rafa can beat Novak.And Novak had so many ‘off’ days in last 2 month- that shows not to be very consistent. Lets see whats happen, don’t no jump to soon…


WTF Says:

^ Funny that people are giving tennis advice to a 17 time grand slam winner with 15+ years of experience.

He’s played Rafa enough times to know what to do and what not to do. You think he hasn’t figured out all these things? He knows how to beat Rafa better than you do. The problem is the execution. As you said, easier said than done.

I would be extremely shocked if your advice of hitting forehands to Rafa’s backhand was new to him, and something he’d never thought of.


WTF Says:

“@WTF: I’m big Novaks fan, and as much I would love to agree with you with Novaks chances at RG
I don’t think it would be that easy. Can Novak beats Rafa in RG?”

I’m not sure I would call it ‘easy’ myself. But if it comes down to heart, courage, and the mental factor, there is no one in the game that will outdo Nole in mental toughness. He is the strongest out there, and I used to give that mantle to Rafa.

If it comes down to a physically gruelling contest, again there is no player I would say can outlast Novak Djokovic physically. Again, I used to give this mantle to Rafa. Nole on the other hand I used to rank pretty low in the endurance and stamina meter. But he did something in the off season of 2010 that completely changed everything. I don’t know what it was (gluten free diet or whatever) but it was a game changer.

Rafa I think is the only guy standing in the way of him taking the calendar slam. I don’t think Fed can stop him at Wimbledon anymore, and Murray’s win over him at the USO was not a sign of the changing of the guard, because at the AO this year he got his revenge rather convincingly. It seems more of a one off than anything.


John Says:

@WTF

”I already answered that. He didn’t bloom until he was around 23. He had fitness issues and asthma.

When he overcame that, the glory days Nadal and Federer enjoyed were starting to close.”

————————————–

So if he reached his so called
”prime” how come he only won 1 slam last year?

————-

“It looks like a decline, but only because of Nole’s rise.”

So your saying Fed is not declining, it only looks like it cause Novak has reached his prime?

That’s the most ridiculous thing Ive ever heard.

————

”Last year he lost to Fed at Wimbledon. But Fed is now a year older, and after 30 every year makes a bigger difference than it does after 20.”

First you say hes unbeatable and Feds decline is non-existent, its cause Novak is the best and on and on…Then you basically admit Federer needs to be 32 for Novak to have a chance in his prime!

I’m struggling with your logic cause if Fed Needs to be Super Old for Novak to win, how can he be the best you have ever seen?


Ahsan Najeeb Says:

“Funny that people are giving tennis advice to a 17 time grand slam winner with 15+ years of experience”

Its really funny cuz u think Fed is glued to his laptop and pressing the “Refresh” button after every 5 seconds with tennis x site opened dying to receive any “advice” on how to beat Rafa. Nobody of us can give advice to the players and I was just expressing my thoughts on how he can make it tough for Rafa and I think every poster is entitled to do that… My emphasize on this strategy was for two reasons:

1) Rafa’s backhand recently has been more fragile than it usually has been throughout their meetings.

2) Fed has been relying on his own game in past and believing in his natural game to defeat his opponents… Nobody can blame him for that cuz he has been very successful at that but there are times when he needs to adopt a specific strategy for a specific player and make a conscious effort to follow a certain game plan … Hope he does that today against Rafa…


WTF Says:

“So if he reached his so called
”prime” how come he only won 1 slam last year?”

Two guys stepped it up for a game and beat him on the day. No one said he’d be immune to upsets. But losing to Fed at Wimby and Murray at USO were by no means continuing trends.

Losing to Nadal was not an upset. It was a 50/50.

Last year the 4 majors were split evenly among the top 4 players. But who had the best season overall?

I do not think this year’s majors will be split one apiece. Nadal is still good but not as good as he once was, and when the clay season is over, he’s going to have a hard time getting into and staying in the top 4. Federer is the wrong side of 30. Murray has yet to prove any consistency.

If anyone’s going to challenge him it will probably be Del Po.

“So your saying Fed is not declining, it only looks like it cause Novak has reached his prime?

That’s the most ridiculous thing Ive ever heard.”

I didn’t say he wasn’t declining at all. I already acknowledged that being past 30, the best years were behind him. What I’m saying is that his ‘decline’ was made to look a lot worse than it really was by Nole. It’s no different from people criticizing the ATP tour for having no legitimate challengers 2004+ when Federer was winning everything. The reason his competition seemed weak is because Fed himself was so strong. Players like Hewitt, Roddick, and Safin (who were his challengers until Nadal) were by no means weak players. In a different era they would have won more silverware. Federer just made them look weak, just as Nole is making Federer look weak.

“First you say hes unbeatable and Feds decline is non-existent, its cause Novak is the best and on and on…Then you basically admit Federer needs to be 32 for Novak to have a chance in his prime!”

Nah. YOu’re reading comprehension just sucks. Novak had a ‘chance’ last year. That was not a one sided match by any means. I never used the words ‘non-existent’. Novak is the best. Federer last season was still ‘good enough’ to win, but that was a year ago. He’s not ‘good enough’ anymore.

I never said Fed hadn’t declined *at all*. What I said is that he was still good enough to contend for GS titles. He was only made to look pedestrian because Nole raised the bar. Was he as good as he was in 04-07? Of course not.

“I’m struggling with your logic cause if Fed Needs to be Super Old for Novak to win, how can he be the best you have ever seen?”

Is your IQ below 80? Who said Fed had to be super old for Novak to win? Just look at their records even before he got super old. Well you haven’t defined what super old means, but Fed’s record against Nole has not been good, as of the last 3 years or so.

In 2008 Nole beat him at the AO and won the title. Fed would have been 26. So who said he needed to be super old for Nole to beat him?

Why do you put words in my mouth?

“Its really funny cuz u think Fed is glued to his laptop and pressing the “Refresh” button after every 5 seconds with tennis x site opened dying to receive any “advice” on how to beat Rafa. Nobody of us can give advice to the players and I was just expressing my thoughts on how he can make it tough for Rafa and I think every poster is entitled to do that… My emphasize on this strategy was for two reasons:”

Then doing so is worthless. Telling us how Fed can beat him does nothing, because we aren’t playing, and Fed isn’t reading. It still feels dumb even if that wasn’t your intention, because the truth is, even if Fed loses, he knows more about how to beat Rafa than your analysis. Nothing you said is anything nobody already knew, including us. This kind of analysis is just unnecessary after 30 odd Fedal finals.

“2) Fed has been relying on his own game in past and believing in his natural game to defeat his opponents… Nobody can blame him for that cuz he has been very successful at that but there are times when he needs to adopt a specific strategy for a specific player and make a conscious effort to follow a certain game plan … Hope he does that today against Rafa…”

Strategically he’s always known what to do. He doesn’t need someone giving him pointers. When he loses it’s because he’s been beaten by someone who’s just too good on the day (knowing how to win doesn’t help if you can’t do anything and the other guy isn’t missing any shots), or he’s unable to execute his game plan because it’s difficult (can’t get a high first serve percentage, forehand misfiring, etc).

If he fails to beat Rafa on clay, it’s not because strategically he doesn’t know how to approach the match. If all you needed to do is know how to approach the match, Rafa wouldn’t have such extraordinary records on the red stuff. The reason he hasn’t been beating him is because.. it’s *hard* to do. Nole can do it because he’s faster and more energetic than Fed. He can retrieve every ball until Rafa gets frustrated and starts going closer to the lines and missing (and even attempting to throw him off by moonballing). Fed doesn’t have that and finds himself trying to play offense instead and then being grinded down, being beaten the way Rafa was beaten by Nole in 2011.


Giles Says:

Hey WTF you should apply for the position of being Joker’s PR man!
#GoodLuckWithThat


Giles Says:

Joker lost early in IW, joker lost early in Miami, joker lost early in Madrid and joker lost early in Rome. And here we have @WTF singing his praises. Oops sorry forgot, ankle injury! WTF???
#Inconsistent
#JokerWillNotRepeat2011


madmax Says:

Forehand Says:
The lengevity of oldies like Federer, Ferrer, Haas, etc show that the tennis shelf life is getting extended and this means that Nole and Rafa will have many more years to pile up their own records.

May 18th, 2013 at 10:58 pm

Forehand,

No, no, no.

Federer is unique. A gift from the gods to tennis. He is a one-off. No one like federer before tennis or after – you cannot put the others into the same category, the same that you cannot put any clay court player into the same category as rafa. Rafa is unique on clay. But Roger, he is something else altogether.

Really looking forward to the match. Know the outcome, but hey. Who knows?

Go for it Fed. Wishing you all the best.


John Says:

@WTF

“Nah. YOu’re reading comprehension just sucks.”

—–

Good one, sorry, but you’re sounding just a little bit delusional.

WTF says:Novak is the best. Federer last season was still ‘good enough’ to win, but that was a year ago.

lol, so Novaks the best but Federer has just been “good enough to beat him”.

So what is he?

The best or not?

The only Slam Novak will ever dominate is AO.

Bring some facts instead of preaching your views.

You’re making less sense with each post.


KK Says:

WTF, Wake up & come down to earth. Dont still dream in Joker world!!! You can be supporting someone, but not blindly like this. Even joker will be LHAO after reading your comments :P


Ahsan Najeeb Says:

@ WTF

Look I don’t have time to post painfully lengthy posts like you do… So I will keep it short and precise… Never ever try to tellother posters what to do and what not to do… Just mind your own business and ignore the post which you think says something which you already know and only speak for yourself not on every other poster’s behalf… Who are u to establish that everyone knows what I am saying?..Judging by your responses to my posts, I think you either did not read my post carefully or too dumb to understand what I was pointing at…. Trying to explain it again to you would be a useless exercise and would just like be banging the head against the wall… So I will refrain from it.. Don’t bother replying cuz this discussion will go nowhere..


Forehand Says:

madmax Says:

“Federer is unique. A gift from the gods to tennis. He is a one-off. No one like federer before tennis or after”

What is so unique about Federer’s LONGEVITY ?

Can you post some records to show Federer is unique in terms of longevity ?


skeezer Says:

^try this one. Go to his wiki page, I am sure you’ll find quite a bit of “uniqueness” there.


queen Says:

Shut up people. Go watch. It is starting…so excited!


gannu Says:

madmax how can u be so optimistic…does it not frustrate you to see him lose again and agan and again..wats the point for an emperor like federer to keep losing these days and so badly to some players….its better that he retires rather than be a loser….i know it sounds harsh but no point in playing like this!!!

anyways nadal fans are happy i guess…this is just a toast for them…

wonder what is going on roger’s head!!!


Daniel Says:

Fed opening with an ace snd then coming to net to volley, like it!


Daniel Says:

Another serve and volley, twice in a game.


van orten Says:

first game showed everything..fed needs to be agressive and nadal will play into the bh than open court…good match so far


tfouto Says:

hi guys,

Federer is starting strong, altough Nadal should win this game…


gannu Says:

hmm daniel good t c u…hope our man wins ;-)


gannu Says:

atleast feddy baby’s mindset is good…lets see how well he executes it!!!


Daniel Says:

Fed very agreesive on retunrs


gannu Says:

the problem is that clay beast will keep defending indefinitely and federer has to keep playing super high risk tennis to have a chance!!! that why it boils down to some supreme super human effort…the advantage with djoker is that he can defend very well plus a doublehanded backhand which is why he has had better success against rafa…and already a break point and a break!!! good so first set is over!!!!


Green900 Says:

Federers done. No way he’ll win


tfouto Says:

it should be a quick game… Nadal is playing agressive…


gonzalowski Says:

yess

1 of 1 in Breakpoint for Nadal


Daniel Says:

Break! Strangelly Fed is hitting some deep balls center court insteado of goigm for crosscourt FH. He has several forehnads and is applying this tactics. When Nadal served 30-30 he was hitting FH after a good retunr and even though missed.


queen Says:

here we go…Vamos King!


Forehand Says:

Hahahaha….this rivalry is a joke.


tfouto Says:

yes, Forehand, it’s almost like Nadal-Djokovic rivalry, a joke either…


Green900 Says:

I predict over in 2 sets, nadal 6-2 6-1


Daniel Says:

Two many errors in,ast two games.


gonzalowski Says:

Rafa starts very very strong


gonzalowski Says:

Rafa 19 Nole 15


gannu Says:

same old bring story…i think fed fans should stop pretending and stop beng delusional…time for us to endure this misery till he retires…better retire and put an end to this agony…atleast then there would be no false hope that we keep having now


Daniel Says:

Two many errors 10 UF eeros in 5 games


Daniel Says:

Nadal BH super strong til now


nadalista Says:

Bloodbath.


van orten Says:

djokovic is the only one who has the complete game to beat nadal regulary on clay at the moment. fed needs his forehand.!


gannu Says:

green 900 i predict 6-1 6-0 atleast only when fed gets humiliated he will realise where he stands…and all those who justify fed’s performance on age its BS…doesnt matter…if you are competing then stop using that excuse and if you think thats a valid excuse then stop competing….no one is going to put any asterisk on any loss or win at any age…what matters is only the result at the end of the day!!! disgusting and frustrating…roger please retire and save us!!!


queen Says:

Too good, too good…Vamos!!!!


van orten Says:

i can live with many fedals finals and no problem if nadal wins the most of them…final is final


Forehand Says:

I am a Rafa. Even I feel embarassed to this match.


van orten Says:

what is wrong with people asking fed to retirE??


Forehand Says:

oops Rafa *fan*


Daniel Says:

This is a Nadla point. Federer hit everyshot hard and deep and everything come back even a short ball in the line which Federer missed.


gannu Says:

its really painful to watch…imagine that the corwd has to cheer feddy bear to win points!!! i mean what could be more excruciating that…!!!


nadalista Says:

Breadstick.


van orten Says:

wow nadal playing fastest match of his career ;


tfouto Says:

gannu… relax. The problem is yours not Federer. I am a Federer fan, but i knew Federer would loose already. That’s just about expectations…

Federer is making too many errors, because he’s feeling the pressure of Nadal strong game…


Daniel Says:

It’s ugly because Fed is making too many mistakes. See tis last two points, awful. He is just missing everything.
Nala only made 2 UE and again 100% winning on second serves. Same as yesterday. What the hell is this stat?! Since when his second serve is unbeatbale.


nadalista Says:

Baby’s in the mood……….


Forehand Says:

I think Rafa is still not playing at his best. He should not have lost one game in this set.


queen Says:

Not a fed fan but I respect him a lot…I am speechless. One game for Fed? I hoped for a good match:(


Daniel Says:

Finally an error from Nadal

Only part of Fed’s gamemworking today is return. He is puttong a lot of balls in play but gift the point later with a mistake


Daniel Says:

Everything right went to the net in a high smart ball by Nadal but missed a raher easy volley to set 3 BP


Daniel Says:

2nd UE from Nadal in this game. It was so easy he even lost comcentration;-)


nadalista Says:

Oh, oh, the GOAT’s awake……….


Daniel Says:

And saves BP with an excelent open left serve


Daniel Says:

Finally an attacking return just to out some pressure


Daniel Says:

Fed’s aporach should have being more close to the line. Gave him too many time to anlge


nadalista Says:

Good hold Rafa…


Forehand Says:

I feel pity for those who paid a lot to see this match live.


queen Says:

nice…Vamos!!


Daniel Says:

Nadal’s BH is too good today


C!P! Says:

smart thinking by Federer ,he knows he will lose anyway, so why make it a long one!


tfouto Says:

i just hope that second set it’s not 6-0…


nadalista Says:

Backhand is singing today…….


nadalista Says:

….That would be Rafa’s………


Daniel Says:

What is worrying is if Fed will ever be able to be competitive against Nadal again?! Hope on grass or fast courts, because after this IW and Rome beatdowns it doesn’t look promisimg but htis are Nadal’s best surfaces. Will see.

Fed started so good and then can’t put the ball in play. Thinking he has decided to go super agressive, either goes in or out


jane Says:

Their matches don’t have the spark they used to have… This feels anticlimactic.


gannu Says:

a breadstick and bagel…and after than federer will say in his interview..” I got to be optimistic…i atleaast made the final (no matter if it was a cupcake draw)…ti am going to hit the practice courts immediately and more motivated to win…with everyloss my motivation increases… i hope to do well in RG.. blah blah blah blah… “


queen Says:

now take it and run Rafa!!!


skeezer Says:

fed packing it in early. obvious he doesn’t want to be there. rafa is the artist today, he owns the dirt


van orten Says:

at wimbledon things could look different..so i am prettey relaxed. nadal is stronger on clay. no big deal


Daniel Says:

And the worst it gets more unconfortable Fed becames and the score gets worst.
Hope is not 6-0 either, if Fed manages a good service game


Daniel Says:

Is 9-0 in games for Nadal


nadalista Says:

Maybe they can bring in a substitution…..Gulbis?


Daniel Says:

He can even hit a forehand when inside the court


gannu Says:

as i predicted its gonna be 6-1 6-0 hahahhaha well done feddy bear


Forehand Says:

Rafa is peaking at the right time for the FO.


Daniel Says:

Finally!!!


van orten Says:

fed lacks a bit of firepower on clay these days.
but on fast courts and his game clicking he still has good chances to win


tfouto Says:

Hope Federer just make a game on second set..


Daniel Says:

Wow, a winner from baseline in a signature Federer shot


nadalista Says:

C’mon Fed, get on the scoreboard!


Daniel Says:

Nadal’s retiurn are short and even so Fed is missing essy forehands going for too much


skeezer Says:

you know Fed is calling it a day against rafa when he repeatedly hits a shot to rafa’s fh and comes to the net. go home already rog.


tfouto Says:

I am a Federer huge fan, but i think Federer best days are over now. I would just like as a tennis fan, that a new player could enter the arena. There are some promises, but no one near the potencial of top-4…


Daniel Says:

Even Nadal is drop shoting


Forehand Says:

Rafa is playing poorly now. He may not feed a bagel.


nadalista Says:

Thank God…..scoreline looks more respectable now..


Daniel Says:

Uhfff


Daniel Says:

Federer was starting to get a feel on thisgame and Nadal hit another excelent passing shot. He didn’t miss asingle one today


Daniel Says:

Awfull shot. C’mon Fed 40-15 and you will lose is game.
Now they miss a call. Damm


the DA Says:

Is it Valentine’s day in Rome? There’s a massacre going on.


nadalista Says:

What a running backhand from Rafa at break point!


Daniel Says:

What the hell. Couldn’t he miss a passinh shot?! His backhand is awesome today I think he made 1 mistake only


Daniel Says:

Wow. federer having to go to the limispts in both sides to set 3 BP’s.

Hope he gets one


nadalista Says:

Bad, bad Rafa……..getting broken serving for the Championship??


Daniel Says:

BH error!!
Some dignity

Told ya that all top players are having problems closing matches. Even Nadal versus Fed on clay couldn’t serve a match out:)
Of course he has better odds breaking right back


Forehand Says:

Thank God. Rafa shows some sympathy to this poor soul.


tfouto Says:

Nadal career is on severe decline. He lost on serving for championship to Federer :)


Daniel Says:

Fed on a 4 points winning streak!!!!!!


Daniel Says:

Drop shot too high


Daniel Says:

Aother complicated game. Can he serve some ace or Nadla miss a return for a change


Daniel Says:

He is stuborn. Amother drop but this was flawless


Daniel Says:

Yeah!!!! Pressure on Nadal now, at least for him to feel a little disconfort


Daniel Says:

This mistakes are so awfull I am rolling in my sofa.


Forehand Says:

It will be interesting to see Rafa’s celebration.

My guess is it will be more like FO 2008


Daniel Says:

Congrats Nadal. Aother year and still king of clay!
Onto RG!!


gannu Says:

federer took the least amt of games against nadal this week!! well done feddy!!


nadalista Says:

All Fed did was delay the inevitable.

Rafa Champion….


John Says:

Gongraz to all civilized Nadal fans…

The haters can go drown in a bucket of mud. :)


Forehand Says:

Federer is the first one to get to No.20.

Hope ferrer and Nole catch up with it at FO.


nadalista Says:

Robbie Koenig: “We know Rafael Nadal will be in the final at RG, the question is, will Novak? Rafa has proved time and time again that come Championship Sunday, he will be there.”


van orten Says:

congrats nadal..really hoping for a djoker vs nadal encounter at rg.. that will be more competitive…


John Says:

@Nadalista

You must be in a very joyful mood, after all Nadal has done this year. Gongraz-im very happy for you :)

A little disappointing but I hope Fed can do well at Rg..which he should cause I still think Feds no2 on clay vs most of the field…

Anyway gonna take a little break for TX cause I am sure loads of trash talk is to follow….:)


Giles Says:

VAMOS KING!
Incredible Rafa! Back to back Masters, WOW!
Nice demolition job, keep it up Champ!
#TheGreatRafaelNadal


nadalista Says:

Thank you @John! We Rafans have learnt to be grateful for small mercies after all the tribulations Rafa goes thorough. So, yes, I am happy today because tomorrow………could be something else!

Vamos!!


Forehand Says:

Rome 7
RG 7
MC 8
Barca 8


Forehand Says:

Still going strong…


Humble Rafa Says:

It was my pleasure to continue the “rivalry”. It’s so easy to play someone who can’t hit 3 backhands in a row. Just making the obvious point.

Also, it was the easiest match of the week.

My team has launched a high level investigation into how I lost 4 games in match. I shouldn’t have lost one game in set 1. Set 2 should have been 6-1.

6-0, 6-1 would have been an ideal result.

Look forward to continuing the rivalry at RG.


Roger Federer Fan Says:

John Says:
Anyway gonna take a little break for TX cause I am sure loads of trash talk is to follow….:)

Where is my friend Skeezer ?
Please come back…people are looking for you.
Rafa fans are having fun….please do something.


Margot Says:

Well played Rafa :) But on clay, at any rate, this match up is a damp squib. On grass? Well we’ll have to wait and see.
Wog boy, am verrry cross with Nole…;)


John Says:

^^
LMAO

Why dont you ask him?

I am sure he will turn up soon…


nadalista Says:

Last I heard, Peter Bodious (aka Peter Bodo) was slumped on his keyboard suffering from a terminal case of Rafatigue!

Well, sleep well Mr Bodious, we will wake you up after RG, at this rate Rafa might continue winning till after!


Giles Says:

A few days rest for our Champion and then off to Paris. He secured the No. 4 seeding all by himself without the help of the French bureaucrats. Thanks Frenchies for nothing.


M Says:

@Giles – I remember Rafa saying he didn’t want the boost in any event, so I’m sure he prefers it this way.

A big old “Vamos” to him for having earned it, though. :-)


M Says:

@Roger Federer Fan

“Where is my friend Skeezer ?
Please come back…people are looking for you.
Rafa fans are having fun….please do something.”

*laughs*


rafaeli Says:

Rafa haters have taken cover. The Comeback Kid is in town.


Giles Says:

@M. Yes, Rafa did say he didn’t want any gratis from the French. Agreed, this is the best scenario for all concerned.
Vamos King!!


Giles Says:

Don’t worry, old skeezer the geezer will be here soon flaunting “Number 17″. And here’s one for him if he does show up “”20-10″ !!!


Brando Says:

Re Fed:

Perspective is king here.

Fed’s 31, and age matter’s in this game.

It’s not an excuse for his loss, rather we should applaud the fact that he reached the final in a major event on the slowest, physically most demanding surface on tour.

Well done to him.

The loss, the scorecard is not a issue here: he played a on song Rafa on clay- it could happen to any player.

The positive’s are:

- First final this year

- Great performance this week aside from today

- 7 matches under his belt pre RG. Priceless IMO regarding match sharpness.

Overall the positive’s outweigh the negatives surely IMO!


Brando Says:

PS:

Good luck to Fed at RG.

It’s true Rafa matches up well v Fed, especially on clay, but the bottom line is:

- Fedal matches have a special, universal appeal in the game that is absolutely undeniable.

- It’s still the hottest ticket the game can offer. Look at today for example: packed stadium, and a Boris Becker who flew in especially for this match.

That’s called BO appeal.

Regardless of the results, this is a historic, celebrated rivalry between 2 of the most iconic players- if not the 2 most iconic- that the game has ever seen.

The difference in their game, personality, style alleviate’s the rivalry to level that it just draw’s viewer’s in time and time again.

It’s the true heir apparent to the classic Borg v McEnroe rivalry and no other rivalry brings the excitement, difference and interest in the game as the 2 do when they get it on.

We should appreciate their matches since they are coming in a smaller number every year than in the past.

Vamos Fedal!


Alex Says:

Thx Brando, very nice comments.


Brando Says:

Re Rafa:

VAMOS!!!

This was clinical, focused, hungry, sharp display from the man they call the King of Clay.

A true masterclass.

Bjorn Borg recently called Rafa a artist on Clay and today Rafa truly painted a picture of excellence on this surface.

Rafa fans and non- Rafa fans should appreciate the guy’s genius on this surface as likely we will not such undeniable mastery of a surface in a long, long while when the great man one day decide’s to call it time on his career.

As far as RG is concerned:

It was immensely pleasing to see Rafa go through to 2 physical challenge’s in consecutive day’s and then follow it up with his 2 best performance since he has return.

Put simply:

Rafa just need’s to keep doing what is at the moment, carry on in this vein, and the rest will take care of itself at RG.

VAMOS CHAMP!


courbon Says:

Congratulations to Rafa and his fans, great day for you guys!


Brando Says:

@Courbon:

Thanks.

Was nervous prior to the match to be honest, and regardless of the result I was only hoping for a really good performance from Rafa.

Thankfully he turned in a great performance.

The win is great but for me:

performance level > the result.

He truly played outstanding today in all department’s for me.


alison Says:

Brando nice set of posts there,very fair and honest assessments,i must say this sounds much more like you,no offence but you didnt really sound like your usual self the other day,taking pot shots at other posters is not your usual style,your usually fair and objective and agree to disagree,all the while respecting others who do the same,sorry just saying,ill leave it at that.


alison Says:

Courbon thanks,lol reading your post to me this morning calling me a little tease,like that one:-P,I i dont know about little tease,but headcase,nutcase,or airhead sounds more approriate lol,however ive said it before and ill say it again,that the pound for pounders(Mat4s nickname for the Nole fans)are some of the best fans on this forum.


Giles Says:

@Brando. Great posts
@alison. Talking about “potshots”, most posters are guilty, me included, so no need to point the finger at Brando #JustSaying


alison Says:

^Fair enough^.


Margot Says:

@Brando
But how long will this desire for the “hottest ticket” in town last? Federer was booed during that match. Now I don’t agree with doing that, I think it’s disrespectful to a great champion, but it IS a clear indication that what fans want is a competitive final. On clay that’s never going to happen to Fedal.


jane Says:

True, Margot.


Giles Says:

Jon Wertheim Most jarring part of today’s score not 6-1, 6-3 but Nadal (5) … The notional implication that there are 4 better players right now=nuts.


andrea Says:

where is robin soderling when you need him? time for another upset at the french!


Giles Says:

^^^ He is too ill after the battering he received the following year


alison Says:

Giles exactly Rafa lost to Soderling at the FO in 2009,however the following year,he more than made up for that defeat by beating the same player in the final,so i hardly think Rafa looses much sleep about that loss,and has won the title 3 times since that defeat.


Giles Says:

Jokes aside, it doesn’t look like Robin Soderling will be returning to the tour. He is still suffering with Mono and something else referred to as “fatigue syndrome”?
I wish him well.


alison Says:

BTW i wasnt making a joke about Robins illness,i was just making an obsevation about the FO matches he played against Rafa in 09 and 10.


Brando Says:

@Margot:

How long will it last?

For as long as they play LOL.

They are comfortably the 2 biggest, iconic names in the game and even if their next match is at RG then it will be sold out in a matter minute’s regardless of this final today.

Put simply:

The desire to watch these 2 will always be there for when they meet.

Hence the crowd turned up today, even probably knowing the match favored Rafa due to it being Clay.

The booing:

That was wrong.

Period.

Competitive match:

Your post and the points you make are all valid.

The truth is Fed is 31 going on 32- an age historically where player’s are believed to be nearing the end of their career.

It shall be the same for Rafa, Muzza etc when they hit that age.

With this in mind, the chance of a competitive match with Rafa is surely the same as say: Fed v Novak, or even Fed v Muzza.

It’s clear that Fed, due to his age, cannot bring the game he could as he did in his peak- or at the age of 26/27 like the other 3.

That’s just normal.

So what would aide a more competitive match is a favorable surface for Fed: grass and HC.

Fedal can be a very competitive match still IMO, but most realistically on grass and HC most likely.

On a general basis though it’s as competitive as Fed v Novak or Fed v Muzza in the last 12- 18 months: basically a match between a player in that sweet age spot of 24-27 v a player going on 32.

It’s sad really since IMO had Fed been the same age as these guy’s not only would it be far more competitive but furthermore Fed would more than likely change a few match result’s in the recent past.

To his great credit he is 30 plus and still has been able to push these guy’s to the brink.

Speak’s volume’s about his competitive level!


nadalista Says:

@Margot, the crowd may have briefly booed Roger but he did not turn around and ask them to fellate him.

He may not be competitive any more but the crowd know a gentleman when they see one, and that is why they will keep back for more………..

Tennis, after all, is known as a gentleman’s sport.


Steve 27 Says:

hahha, Giles, andrea needs jamie’s crystal ball to predict the “future”

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