Federer In Tsonga Showdown Tuesday At French Open; Nadal Returning To Form Just In Time?
by Sean Randall | June 3rd, 2013, 7:05 pm
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Now the tournament begins. After four rounds of bad weather, long matches, high drama and occasional what-the-heck-was-that play, it’s go time at the French Open. The quarterfinals start tomorrow and our last eight are a pretty strong quartet with mix of the favorites and a few surprising veterans. Well, lots of veterans.

I count four 30+ players and youngest is 26-year-old Novak Djokovic! On to my picks.

Tommy Robredo v David Ferrer
About the only real shock among the quarterfinalists is Tommy Robredo. The 31-year-old overcame three 0-2 set holes to book his spot in his first quarterfinal of this decade. Unfortunately for Robredo, his tournament is about to end tomorrow. Tommy faces fellow Spaniard and another guy pushing 32 and that’s David Ferrer. Ferrer, a semifinalist at the French last year, has barely broken a sweat this event and even if he had, his legs would still be far fresher than Robredo’s.

Ferrer has also beaten Robredo six of eight times. So everything is pointing David’s way in this one. And I think Tommy won’t mind. He’s had an incredible week, quite a lucky one as well.

So unless Ferrer gets tight, which can’t be ruled out, he’ll get through probably pretty easily.
The pick: Ferrer in three

Roger Federer v JW Tsonga
In the main event JW Tsonga clashes with Roger Federer. Tsonga had that epic in this round with Novak Djokovic a year ago when he held a total of four matchpoints but just couldn’t get over the finish line, and Djokovic won in five.

Tsonga and Federer have their own five set history. JW stunned him at Wimbledon a few years ago after being down two sets, and earlier this year in Australia Roger toughed it out in five. I expect more of the same tomorrow.

Roger finally got tested on Sunday by Gilles Simon. Federer blitzed Simon early, then tweaked his ankle which disrupted his game for about an hour and Simon took advantage oing up 2-1. Federer regrouped and held on in five.

Against Tsonga, Federer can’t afford any such lapses because once you let Tsonga to get going, there’s not much you can do to stop him.

But the clay should help Federer more than Tsonga. It’s not a reach to say clay is Tsonga’s worst surface while Federer has played his best tennis this year on this stuff – a final in Rome and this week’s quarter.

And I also think the French pressure hinders Tsonga, though not as much as it hurts a Richard Gasquet or Gilles Simon. Tsonga will still feel the pressure and the moment, and like last year I expect him to make a mistake on a crucial point and that’s that.

Head-to-head, Federer leads 9-3. He likes pace, he likes power and Tsonga provides plenty of that. And every time they’ve played Roger’s won at least a set. That’s important.

But Roger isn’t the same Roger anymore. He’s 31 now, a family man. Not quite as sharp as he once was, nor as swift. But he still has the smarts, maybe more than ever, to go with experience. And that should be the difference in the end. Federer will play just the right mix of offense and defense and let JW implode at the key moment.
The pick: Federer in five

As for today, it was nice to see Rafael Nadal finally put up a good number. I thought Kei Nishikori would make it close but Rafa dominated winning 6-3, 6-1, 6-4 on his 27th birthday.

“I played much better today than the first three matches, no doubt about that,” said Nadal. “I started to have feelings with my forehand when I had a chance to hit my forehand. I started to change directions well. I started to feel that I can hit the ball longer and am having more confidence in every stroke.”

Nadal now moves on to play Stan Wawrinka. The “Other Swiss” gutted out of a two set deficit to deny Gasquet 8-6 in the fifth set in just over four hours of play.

“It’s ranked really high in my wins if you look at my level and how I decided to fight for this match,” said Wawrinka. “And also the fact that I won for the very first time the round of 16, and it was such a crowd that was supporting us for four hours.”

Wawrinka and his leg which need treatment will have to reset for the upcoming Nadal battle in two days – I’m not sure how fresh Stan will be for that one. Meanwhile, it was another bitter defeat for Gasquet who blew another 2-0 set lead and remains one of the great underachievers in the sport.

“He was fresher than I was,” Gasquet admitted. “He was serving first serves at more than 215 kilometres. After two hours, that’s huge. He took his chances. He’s such a great player, one of the best ones I’ve ever played. We were really close. I could have reached the quarter-finals, I know. I was so close.”

Also today, Novak Djokovic dropped his first set of the tournament but then dominated Philipp Kohlschreiber 4-6, 6-3, 6-4, 6-4 to reach his 16th straight Grand Slam quarterfinal.

Djokovic was buoyed by the death of his former coach Jelena Gencic on Saturday. And with her passing serving as added inspiration, a looming clash with Rafa on Friday just got that much more interesting.

Up next for Novak on Wednesday is Tommy Haas. The 35-year-old Haas continued his remarkable road by smashing Mikhail Youzhny 6-1, 6-1, 6-3. The winner wasn’t a surprise, but the scoreline sure was. Haas is really playing some great tennis of late, though I think a lot of today’s match had to do with Youzhny just being awful.

The women are also on tomorrow with two quarterfinals. It’s still hard to pick against Serena Williams, though I think former champion Svetlana Kuznetsova has the game to push the world No. 1 around a little. And I’ll go with Agnieszka Radwanksa to end the run of Sara Errani. Radwanska should be a factor on the dirt, but for whatever reason she hasn’t proved herself in Paris. That is until this week.

Tennis Channel and ESPN once again have the live end-to-end coverage in the U.S.

TUESDAY FRENCH OPEN SCHEDULE

Court Philippe Chatrier 2:00 PM Start Time
Agnieszka Radwanska (POL)[4] v. Sara Errani (ITA)[5]
Jo-Wilfried Tsonga (FRA)[6] v. Roger Federer (SUI)[2]
Court Suzanne Lenglen 2:00 PM Start Time
Serena Williams (USA)[1] v. Svetlana Kuznetsova (RUS)
Tommy Robredo (ESP)[32] v. David Ferrer (ESP)[4]


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349 Comments for Federer In Tsonga Showdown Tuesday At French Open; Nadal Returning To Form Just In Time?

andrea Says:

great matches coming up. what a shock if svetlana took out serena.


bstevens Says:

Someone mentioned this on another thread, but the Quarterfinals are match-ups of the one-handed backhands against the double-handers. It would be safe to bet that the double-handers will win 3-1.


RZ Says:

I’m picking Fed over Tsonga in 4 sets. There are just too many people out there calling for the upset that they’ve now probably jinxed Tsonga from doing so.


mat4 Says:

I’ve seen one set of Tsonga and one set of Federer, the third against Troicki and the fifth againt Simon respectively. Not much to have a clear idea about their games: watching Federer-Simon I kept asking myself how they made it to the fifth, since Federer was the dominant player, and I believe that Troicki wasn’t a real test for Tsonga.

JWT’s high % of first serves, of course, means nothing: the percentage usually drops a lot when a player sees a lot of balls coming back and is under pressure. So, one question is: will Roger be able to return well enough to be dangerous on Jo’s serve? It could be one key of the match.

The second is, of course, the question of the backhand. I believe that Roger will try to absorb Jo’s power playing a lot of angled CC sliced BH. How will Jo react? Whose BH will be more consistent?

Last important key for the match are the intangibles: will Tsonga play above or below his usual level? Can Roger stay focused?

Of course, I would like them both to lose, Rafa to go fishing in Mallorca, Ferrer to go with him, Haas to decide suddenly to retire etc., but since it is not possible, my take is that Tsonga will be overwhelmed by the real possibility to make the RG final, and that Roger will win in three.


mat4 Says:

Just read my post again with admiration: less then 15 errors, and the rest is pure nonsense. But I still overdid myself..


tennisfansince76 Says:

@mat4 to quote James Blake, “The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom.” or actually William Blake. I guess thats what happens when you have tennis on the brain.


jane Says:

mat4, ha ha – I’d love for all of those other things to happen too, but alas, Nole will have to try to win the FO the hard way. Let’s hope that if he cannot do it this year, he’ll try, try again and ultimately succeed.


mat4 Says:

@TF76, jane:

Glad you’re here!

Yes, I am a bit proud to be so inspired. I even quoted from all the three books I have ever read yesterday, although I am not in love — Wog Boy probably is, by his own admission — the Spring, probably. ;-)

I am really glad you’re here. Volley quoted Rimbaud this morning, I have the firm intention to find a way to cite Blaise Cendrars, and I am expecting some (tennis) poetry from you, although I still prefer grammar.


Wog boy Says:

mat4,

It is winter time here, started four days ago. I am always in love, full time with my wife and part time with …


mat4 Says:

@WB:

I don’t blame to be in love, it’s not your fault. Oh, no, it is I who is inspired because of the Spring. A kind of spiritual vertigo:

The viol vibrates like the wailing of souls that repine.
A melancholy waltz—and a drowsiness divine [...]


mat4 Says:

BTW, is Skeezer the last Fed fan left on this site? I don’t know why, but I’ve got such an impression sometimes.


skeezer Says:

@mat4
Lol!
Keep postin ;)

Re; TF76 welcome back!
Ditto.


mat4 Says:

@skeezer:

#lastofthemohicans


jane Says:

“When as the heart at tennis plays, and men to gaming fall,
Love is the court, hope is the house, and favour serves the ball.
The ball itself is true desert; the line ,which measure shows,
Is reason, whereon judgment looks how players win or lose.
The jetty is deceitful guile; the stopper, jealousy,
Which hath Sir Argus’ hundred eyes wherewith to watch and pry.
The fault, wherewith fifteen is lost, is want of wit and sense,
And he that brings the racket in is double diligence.
And lo, the racket is freewill, which makes the ball rebound;
And noble beauty is the chase, of every game the ground.
But rashness strikes the ball awry, and where is oversight?
and quote; A bandy ho,and quote; the people cry, and so the ball takes flight.
Now, in the end, good-liking proves content the game and gain.
Thus, in a tennis, knit I love, a pleasure mixed with pain.”


jane Says:

And for Wog Boy’s wintery soul…

“On the Tennis Court at Night

We step out on the green rectangle
in moonlight: the lines glow,
which for many have been the only lines
of justice. We remember
the thousand erased trajectories
of that close-contested last set –
blur of volleys, soft arcs of drop shots,
huge ingrown loops of lobs with topspin
that went running away, cross courts recrossing
down to each sweet (and in exact proportion, bitter)
* in Talbert and Olds’ The Game of Doubles in Tennis.
The breeze has carried them off but we still hear
the mutters, the double faulter’s groans,
cries of “Deuce!” or “Love two!”,
squeak of tennis shoes, grunt of overreaching,
all dozen extant tennis quips – “Just out!”
or, “About right for you?” or, “Want to change partners?” –
and baaah of sheep translated very occasionally
into thonk of well-hit ball, among the pure
right angles and unhesitating lines
of this arena where every man grows old
pursuing that repertoire of perfect shots,
darkness already in his strokes,
even in death cramps squeezing a tennis ball
for arm strength to the disgust of the night nurse,
and smiling; and a few hours later found dead –
the smile still in place but the ice bag
left cooling the brow now mysteriously
icing the right elbow – causing
all those bright trophies to slip permanently,
though not in fact much farther, out of reach,
all except for the thick-bottomed young man
about to double fault in soft metal on the windowsill:
“Runner-Up Men’s Class B Consolation Doubles
St. Johnsbury Kiwanis Tennis Tournament 1969″…

Clouds come over the moon;
all the lines go out. November last year
in Lyndonville: it is getting dark,
snow starts falling, Zander Rubin wobble-twists
his worst serve out of the black woods behind him,
Tommy Glines lobs into a gust of snow,
Dom Bredes smashes at where in theory the ball
could be coming down, the snow blows
and swirls about our legs, darkness flows
across a disappearing patch of green-painted asphalt
in the north country, where four souls,
half-volleying, poaching, missing, grunting,
begging mercy of their bones, hold their ground,
as winter comes on, all the winters to come.”


Robert Says:

Federer the “Underdog” in his quarter final match….


skeezer Says:

jane,

Beautiful and awesome at the same time. Thanks for sharing that pulchritudinous piece of work!


skeezer Says:

@Sean

If your picking Fed in 5, surely you’ll pick him to lose the next Rd, I mean, 2 consecutive 5 setters on Clay?

#doubtfulbuthopeful


mat4 Says:

@jane:

This Oxford poem is gorgeous, I’d say even gorgeous. But too long, way too long for such a modern man like myself.

Especially since the message is that in love, like in tennis, everybody is bound to lose…


Wog boy Says:

jane,

Bravo … applause …

mat4,

Disagree, everybody wins … but one is usually shortchanged in love..


Ben Pronin Says:

Miami Heat back where they belong. Finals!!!


Kimberly Says:

And much to the chagrin of most of the sports watching world, the Miami Heat and “the Cleveland Traitor” back in the NBA finals!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#cantbeattheheat
#letsgoheat
#stickithaters

My husband was at the game with friends while I was stuck home although that was my choice. But now this win means I will have to shell out the bucks for the final.
#whocaresatleastwewon


skeezer Says:

Congrats Kimberly! Whew!
Gotta say thought they would go through the Pacers like a hot knife through butter. But alas, ther’re in and thats all that counts.


courbon Says:

@ Mat 4, Jane, Wog Boy:
HEEEY!!!!My Novaks fans, my colleges-Whats up with the poetry? Concentrate on support of Novak not poetry…Ok, I’m just joking.I’m glad you are relaxed-I’m bit worried about Novaks clash with Tommy-Tommy is playing just briliantly…Will see.


Wog boy Says:

courbon,

Who said I am relaxed? Being Nole fan and being “relaxed” doesn’t go together.
Tommy “the Bobcat” is very dangerous, you don’t have to remind us, thank you.


tennisfansince76 Says:

@Skeezer i usually follow the site. i try to skim past all the juvenile fed vs. Rafa. i haven’t posted much lately. i haven’t watched much tennis since australia. i’ve been working more plus the west coast is terrible for european tennis timewise. i live d on the east coast until 2010. the timing is perfect back there. if you get up at 8 wimby and fo are right there. breakfast at wimbledon or RG for that matter are at 6 am. now i might get up at 6 in the morning for prime Fedal or djoker/nadal but it’ll be a cold day in hell before i get up at 6 in the morning for aNadal/Berdych or Nadal/soderling final.


courbon Says:

Hey, how are you?Well, you all seemed relaxed.I saw that post about Jelena Gencic-very touching.
On completely different note -here is the link of the music I’v done last month.Tell me what you think (bad or good-I’m big boy-I can take it )

http://fr.myspace.com/601748676


Wog boy Says:

^^Good, thanks. I couldn’t watch it last time when you gave me the link. I don’t have something on my mobile phone to be able to watch it. I have to try on my PC. Do you have it on You Tube. Why don’t you come ovehere, my doughter is looking fir the members in order to make a band, but she is in heavy metal/hard rock things.


courbon Says:

Did I already posted?Thats is old age-I forgot.There is no videos, just a music.Well, this stuff is more Iggy Pop, Bowie, Stone Roses style…Your daughter making metal band?Cool.I like good hard rock or even metal music (mostly Motorhead, AC/DC…)
I’m not moving any more.France is my last place for living,
Speak to you latter.


Wog boy Says:

courbon,

Something like this, almost best ever:)

http://youtu.be/v2AC41dglnM


courbon Says:

Ah, yes…but my favourite is Black in Black


Wog boy Says:

courbon,
Good taste, you passed the test;)

http://youtu.be/pAgnJDJN4VA


Michael Says:

I am not sure about the outcome of the match of Roger against Tsonga. I would give a slight edge to Roger, but Tsonga is pretty close. It will all depend upon the form of the player on that particular day. At present, Tsonga is showing scintilling form and it will be difficult to outfox him. But Roger is not new to this and he being a Master knows how to strategise his play and go for a win. As regards Ferrer Vs Robredo, I would say 75:25 in favour of Ferrer.


Margot Says:

@ kimberly
Even the comms on ITV were talking about the Heat and, is it Le Bron, yesterday…EEK! Don’t even know if it’s Basket Ball or Base Ball they’re talking about. Think I’ve got some brushing up to…;)


Margot Says:

….do.


van orten Says:

i expect some tough 5 -setters all the way through the final

nadal is the only lefty in the remaining field!

will be interesting which style prevails this year. seems very open . you have baseliners/ defenders And basliners/attacking.u have player with more power or others with more instinct.but on clay it is all about the perfect mix! and 7 from last 8 times nadals’ was the best.

everyone has a shot !


van orten Says:

roger wins this and he has a pretty good shot to make the finals regardless of the sets he played before.

he has pretty good results with ferrer and robredo , doesn’t he?


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Roger seems to be quite flat on the quarters for the past 2 slams. He played some great match at USO 12 before coming very flat against Berdych. He was pretty much flat against Tsonga in their AO quarters. I’m not sure what to make out of Roger’s performance so far. If he can maintain the form he showed against Simon or the matches before, he should get through in 4 sets.

He seems to be timing the ball exquisitely and his serve is not that bad so far. His net game is not upto the mark, but players like Simon make you look bad at the net, except for the easy volley he missed on the game serving for the match.

I still believe match is on Roger’s racquet against Tsonga, though Tsonga is really impressive so far.


Micky Says:

Federer fans would be all nerves for this one.

Potentailly and perhaps the biggest match for him this year maybe….


gonzalowski Says:

Courbon,
it sounds nice. What do you play in it?
I like specially the chorus, and the way the song grows.


George o Says:

Tsonga to win in four.ferrer to win in three and nadal to win it all.just my predictions,forgive me if it doesn’t sooth you.vamos Rafa!!!


Wog boy Says:

courbon,

Hey Frenchie, I like it, and I mean it, no BS. Come overhere, mate. We will find a place for you in the bend, I know you play organ and you sing too? Come and bring family, you know that prophet Tarabic from Kremna said that when the “D Day” comes and shakes planet Earth, the only place that will survive will be Australia, so come overhere Frenchie.
BTW, since you mention Iggy Pop, did you have a chance to listen soundtrack from the Kusturica’s movie “Arizona Dream”, it is old one, you were a kid then,but have a go. I think you will like it.

Ajde Nole,
Dobaaarr


roy Says:

for the love of god, drop the ”old man” federer garbage.
it’s simply laughable at this point.

ferrer 32, haas 34, robredo 32, tsonga 28.
round before, youzhny 30odd
wawrinka is 28
simon is 28

people have been pushing the ”over the hill” roger nonsense since the guy was late 20s.
yet evidence shows copious players playing no worse around 30 and in fact often having some of the best results in their career.
evidence also shows federer’s stats have not been declining the last few years.

it’s just a convenient narrative for federer’s lack of dominance in the recent years, far more convenient than the reality of djoker,nadal and murray being better than him.

but at the point where you have guys like ferrer having the best results of his career post 30 and plenty of players peaking near this age, it’s ridiculous to claim federer, a guy who has never had a single surgery or significant injury is some ”worn” veteran far from his physical best.


Tennis x hippy chic Says:

Roy age is not an excuse its a fact PERIOD,everbody human been slows down the older they get,its the law of averages,as a woman of 45 years of age,i know for a fact that there are younger woman where i work,doing the same job as i do,but probably doing it quicker,better and more effeciently than i do,but i do my best,and Rogers doing his best,and to still be ranked no3 at 31 years of age,is a testament to how great he is,no excuses just facts,in tennis terms he is regarded as an old age pensioner,and for the record im a Rafa fan.


Sirius Says:

^Just keep mind these words you’ve said. Nadal is nearing his 30s. You might want to use AGE as a FACT (EXCUSE)

Oh wait, you have an eternal excuse. BAD KNEES!


Sirius Says:

^that was for roy


Kimberly Says:

Everyone talks about nadal as a defensive player but in recent years his style has changed. I would certainly characterize him as an aggressive baseliner now. Roger is more the all court player.


Tennis x hippy chic Says:

Sirius Rafa fans do use the knee injuries as excuses for his losses,although for the record i never have and never will,i have a friend who suffers badly with tendonitis in her knees,so i dont imagine its alot of fun living with that conditition TBH,so it cant be much fun for Rafa either,no excuses though.


Ty Says:

Serena is on the ropes. Kuzi is putting it to the diva. She always seems to bring it to the French.


Ty Says:

Errani predictably gives back the break while serving for the match. These women… they have no “mabbles”


Ben Pronin Says:

Serena down a break in the third. Kuznetsova beat her en route to her French Open title a few years ago. Would be nuts if Kuzi suddenly won a third major!


Ty Says:

Also predictably, Errani holds to love the next service game to force it into a tiebreak. It is unpredictably predictable.


Ben Pronin Says:

Wow nevermind. Kuznetsova already looks tired. Stern test for Serena but she’s not losing.


Ty Says:

@Ben

She had the chance for a double break 3-0 but couldn’t grab it.


Ty Says:

The weather seems quite frigid in Paris today, 64 degrees Fahrenheit. I wonder if it will affect either Tsonga or Roger. Roger seems to get grumpy in cooler weather.


Okiegal Says:

What’s up with all the poetry on a tennis forum??? Just wondering.


James Says:

“Everyone talks about nadal as a defensive player but in recent years his style has changed.”

Kimberly,
I’m a Rafa fan and have always thought of him as a 60-65% defense and 35-40% offence player. Even Nole uses more defense than offence. If Rafa was as defensive as a lot of people are making him out to be, he wouldn’t have won 7 RGs, 2 Wimbys, 1 AO and 1 USO. He certainly wouldn’t have dominated tennis like he’s done over the years on clay and on other surfaces as well.
It seems to me that a lot of Djoker fans and Roger fans don’t seem to like Rafa too much. Understandable. Roger’s main rival? Rafa Nadal. Nole’s strongest rival? Rafa Nadal. But if you asked most neutral fans, they’d tell you Rafa Nadal certainly is one of the most exciting players ever in tennis to watch. Even the great Bjorn Borg said that no one in the history of tennis is more exciting to watch on clay than Nadal. Oh and he does have some of the best offensive weapons in his game. That’s how he’s blasted away even the likes of Roger over the years.


jane Says:

It’s poetry that is about tennis, after all…


van orten Says:

Still he is defensive and def. Not that fun to watch for above all neutral Fans…


Ty Says:

It ain’t Bukowski. That’s for sure.

Fed has started very well today. I’m impressed so far.


jane Says:

Love Bukowski; but did he write about tennis? Somehow, I think not. Just ham, rye, drinks, bad skin and the like.


gonzalowski Says:

It seems than on friday, weather will be hot and sunny… Yes! That topspin will run!
Now I understand how is it to be a fan, it matters more to me Paris’ weather than my town’s weather.
So sad.


James Says:

van orten, Rafa is the only tennis player whose popularity rivals that of the Swiss great. Nole doesn’t come even close. To me that says a lot.
Thanks.


van orten Says:

Fed has the incredible ability to bring himself into trouble..hahaha nervwrecking as always


Ty Says:

I’d give his library another read if that’s all you got from it.

Fed gave the break back while I wasn’t looking… what happen???


James Says:

Can’t believe Tsonga got the break back! What’s happening!!


jane Says:

Sunday calling for rain again.


jane Says:

Ty, well obviously there’s more to it, lol. My point was he doesn’t write about tennis. He writes from a MUCH different place, darker, dirtier, but also transcendent. Funny as hell too. Embarrassed myself on the bus laughing out loud at some parts.

Think this is going to be a long one again…


the DA Says:

Apart from that blip with being broken, Tsonga is playing well and as confident as I’ve ever seen him on clay. Fed is playing well but looks a little tentative.


Ty Says:

Last hijack…

Jane: do you have a blog anywhere with some writing? Just interested.

On track:

I can’t watch Fed play anymore. I’ve gotten too old and jumpy.


van orten Says:

3 forehands into the net ..that happened


Ty Says:

Three set points!!


jane Says:

Ty, those poems weren’t mine obviously – and no, I don’t. Just blog on tennis and a few other things. Do you have a blog with some creative writing?


Humble Rafa Says:

Folks,

Take your heart pills now. Find the nearest rest room. Whatever works for you.


gannu Says:

frustrated..fed just cant consolidate a lead and win… irritating..deserved tolose the set and also the match… pathetic player


the DA Says:

@jane – it might not be as long as we think. Tsonga takes the first set 7-5.


van orten Says:

Hahhahaha fed At his best …god those errors driving me crazy


James Says:

Tsonga takes the first set 7-5! If Tsonga stays focused, could be the end of Roger’s RG13 campaign.


Jimmy Says:

You never know what you are going to get from Roger anymore, his form can come and go without warning.


jane Says:

DA, I was surprised by the turn-around. Fed was up a break.


Ty Says:

How is Tsonga playing? I can’t see the match, at work watching the scores.

BTW: Where the hell did Frenchopen.org find these player photos? Tsonga’s looks like a mugshot and Fed resembles some type of giddy schoolgirl character.


van orten Says:

Roger only has to lift up his game and he wins this


James Says:

Meanwhile, David Ferrer takes the 1st set 6-2 in the other match.


Humble Rafa Says:

Roger only has to lift up his game and he wins this

thanks for the insight. One level up, then 2 levels down. You are worse than you started.


James Says:

Oh oh Tsonga gets a triple break point in 2nd set.


Ty Says:

Fed’s gonna have to take a potty break at this point. Things are moving too fast.


James Says:

And he gets it. Another UE from Roger and Tsonga now leads 2nd set 2-0.


van orten Says:

Wow…hahahha another great game by fed..tsonga totally winning this by keeping ball in play..Roger does the rest


the DA Says:

The maestro making a few more mistakes now but credit to Tsonga – he is playing so well. Up a break and leading 2-0


RZ Says:

So much for my prediction…of course it can still turn around but not looking good so far for Fed.


andrea Says:

wow. tsonga on a roll. knew this was gonna be a tough match for fed.


Humble Rafa Says:

Why be 1 break down when you can easily be 2 breaks down?


Ty Says:

If I were Rafa I’d be cheering hard for Roger.


the DA Says:

Jo Willy is overpowering Fed. Playing with such clarity of thought. It might be my imagination but Fed seems a little low energy. I can’t imagine he’d be able to fight back from 2 sets down.


Okiegal Says:

Come on Fed, lift up your game, so that your so called fans here will stop raggin’ on you. Cut him some slack, guys. Oh yes, I’m a Rafa fan, a fair one, at that.


the DA Says:

haha..what a beauty of a single-handed BH up the line from Tsonga


JF Says:

It tough seeing Fed down like this.


Ty Says:

@the DA

Can you imagine being Tsonga’s coach when he tries that shot?


the DA Says:

@ Ty – hey, he used to coach Monfils so I think he can handle it ;)


Humble Rafa Says:

If I were Rafa I’d be cheering hard for Roger.

In some ways, it’s true. Nobody has a been a bigger doormat for me than the Arrogant One. Plus it gives me IMMENSE pleasure to beat him.

In a way, I want to see him win, so he can lose to me.


van orten Says:

He will fight as he always does


Ty Says:

Let’s go Le Rog… Tsonga doesn’t have the mental onions to close this out on his own. Just tighten it up. Make him play.


Ty Says:

He needs to steal a trick from Rafa and take a MTO maybe… slow things down.


andrea Says:

unless tsonga starts breaking down in the third set, this doesn’t look good for fed. too much power and perfect timing from tsonga so far.

but i don’t mind if tsonga wins. he really should be going deeper into these events,


RZ Says:

Maybe Fed got confused and thinks he’s Tommy Robredo, in which case he’s in perfect position to win this match…


the DA Says:

Tsonga leads 7-5 6-3. Can he stayed as focused in the 3rd? Fed trying to find a solution. I was expecting a tough one but this has been so rapid – just over 1 hour.


Humble Rafa Says:

Muhammad Ali,

Because you beat him on grass, clay and hard courts does not make you a goat owner. A goat only has one owner.


van orten Says:

Perfect no timing from fed so far too..but it is OK..tsonga plays great


RZ Says:

^I hope Fed can channel Robredo…


JF Says:

And it begins.. really “TY”…


Ty Says:

Just saying. A MTO could help slow it down. Tsonga is flying and Roger is flat as hell. You can either run headlong into a buzzsaw or try to jam the saw with debris.


the DA Says:

Fed disappears completely, gives Tsonga the break with a DF. ooh la la


gannu Says:

heartbroken… fed is just not gonna win anything in life… for him to play 7 three set matches consistently well is not going to happen…its just shocking to see this level of play…Its all over… Disgusting… I don’t want to see fed like this in his dying stages of his career…he should really call it a day now,,,why is he so delusional???


Humble Rafa Says:

The Arrogant One is the favorite for Wimbledon. For sure.


Ty Says:

Gannu:

Damn. We’re talking about a major QF here, not some first round in Bangladesh.


the DA Says:

Fed breaks back. Not lost yet.


Ty Says:

I’m trying to remember the last player to beat Roger in a slam in straights not named Nadal.

This game is the match for Roger 30-40 break point already down 2 sets and a break.


gannu Says:

Come on Ty…fed is the most prolific champion this game has every had…and if you think just reaching QFs and SFs of all Gslams is acceptable…I disagree… Fed will and has to be always judged by very high standards and that’s how he has defined his standing or position in this sport…


Jatin Says:

@humble rafa .
STFU.
Get back to your monkey group


andrea Says:

feels like roger has to give 115% just to hold serve.


the DA Says:

@ Ty – to Nole twice – RG2011 and AO 2011


andrea Says:

nice win by serena by the way…can hardly wait to watch that match later.


the DA Says:

^ sorry, RG 2012


Ben Pronin Says:

Djokovic beat Federer in straights last year at the French.

Gannu is hilarious. Fed can’t win anything in life? Odd conclusion, to say the least.

How fitting would it be for Federer to come back now? Kinda like the ultimate payback for 2011.


van orten Says:

The first set hurt him…


gannu Says:

well Ben when I meant anything I said no longer he can win gslams and imp tournaments…no like first or second round matches!!

heard some come ons…atleast he is showing some emotions!


the DA Says:

hmm…Fed getting booed. How rare is that? He’s rattled.


Ty Says:

@The DA, @Ben

Thanks.

I had forgotten those two. It still seems eerie to see Roger lose after all these years.


Ty Says:

Ferrer just brushed Robredo aside. Those Spaniards do seem to show such good camaraderie when they play one another. One laying down for the next, then ultimately laying down for Nadal in the end.


gannu Says:

guess only a miracle can save roger and make him win this match…I cant see how he can pull this out…a massive struggle


jatin Says:

Scores plz ?


skeezer Says:

Tsonga has had 6 chances to break so far. Not a good sign. Have no visual of the match, is Fed serving underhand?


gannu Says:

really shocked,,,he is missing simple overheads…something he never misses…


jane Says:

” fed is just not gonna win anything in life”

gannu, Fed’s won quite a lot in life!!

————–

Yes, Nole is the only player to beat Fed three times in straight sets at slams: AO 08, 11, and FO 12.

Nadal’s done it, too, but I think only one time?

Anyone else? Don’t think so… He’s always been a rather tough out at the slams obviously!


Ty Says:

Up to Tsonga now.


the DA Says:

Tsonga is returning better than I’ve ever seen him. Plays a great couple of points to earn the break. Leads 4-2


Fedster Says:

Curtains for the great champion.
Its time for the haters to take over and have fun.


the DA Says:

^ 4-3 oops


andrea Says:

is there a miracle break back for fed somewhere? if tsonga holds here i hope fed makes him serve it out at the very least….


Ty Says:

Today would be quite disappointing for those in the stands. Not the rich people – screw them – but those fans that scraped up enough to get to see a potential ‘world class’ clash and only be met with a 90 minute drubbing.


jane Says:

Got to say, Tsonga has remained uber composed this match. Might be difficult to serve it out though.

Fed’s making so many errors today.

Ferrer has reached the semis for the second year running, but he hasn’t played anyone ranked over #24 yet this year.


the DA Says:

2 MPs


James Says:

I am a Rafa fan but don’t enjoy seeing Federer getting beat like this, not now. Used to like it when Rafa did back in Fed days. These days don’t like it too much even if it’s Rafa doing it.
Ok Tsonga has double MPs.


van orten Says:

Congrats tsonga..played rock solid..it is OK to lose To jo…fed player very Bad in his forehand site..no Problem..he won so much …wimby next Chance..food luck for tsonga


James Says:

Tsonga does it. 7-5, 6-3, 6-3!


van orten Says:

Good luck for jo…


Fedster Says:

Tsonga’s subdued celebration reminds me of Rafa’s against Roger. So much contempt for the great champion.


skeezer Says:

Glad I missed that match :(

Well looks like we will have a potential Frenchman in the final. That would be cool :)


Humble Rafa Says:

I will win the FO but won’t have the pleasure of beating the Arrogant One.

Humble cries, Uncle Toni comforts and says “Don’t worry, we will put this bad 2013 RG trophy at the back of the room”.


Ty Says:

Someone needs to call Gannu’s emergency contact about this result, make sure he isn’t near any tall buildings or sharp objects.


nadalista Says:

I predicted Ferru would be in the finals. He will be.

Uncle Toni said Federer was not in the reckoning for RG. He’s out.


Daniel Says:

Damm, thank God I had a lot o work today and seceral meetings and didn’t watch it. Good draw for Federer and he didn’t took advantage.

Congras Tsonga, who hasn’s lost a set still. Hope he makes his first RG final to spice things up. Against Nadal or Djoko the crowd will be insane with a Frenchman in the final after how long.


the DA Says:

Tsonga does it. That was probably the best match I’ve seen him play – no diversions, hardly any brainfarts. He deserved that. Fed made more mistakes than usual but not ridiculous numbers. The serve wasn’t as reliable but he just didn’t have an answer to Jo’s game.


jane Says:

Actually the stats aren’t that bad:

Jo: 26 winners to 22 errors
Fed: 25 winners to 34 errors

Both served well, but Jo served better.

Congrats to him! He’s gone one better than last year already, reaching the semis.


van orten Says:

First set was decicive.Theresia fed gave it to jo after being up 4:3 and 40:15.Ferrer will not be that easy for jo linke today..hope he makes it all through


andrea Says:

nice win for tsonga!!! glad for him. sorry rog – youth and power will eventually win.


skeezer Says:

Will be interesting to hear/read Feds comments about his play. Just wondering where he is at mentally atm.

When is the last time Fed played a 5 setter and played solid the next rd?

#ageisnotafactor?


Jatin Says:

Congrats roger for still playing tennis. No worries, wimby next.

Tsonga i hope you will win this french open now.


Thomas Says:

Nadalista, Ferrer isn’t in the final yet…


contador Says:

Allez Jo!! Oui!

He can beat Ferrer but … win the final? Too good to be true.


Humble Rafa Says:

Tsonga i hope you will win this french open now.

Nice joke.


contador Says:

Djokovic vs Tsonga final! How refreshing that would be!!


RZ Says:

Well done Tsonga. I hope we see him in the final. As much as I like Ferrer, I don’t see him hurting either Nole or Rafa. Tsonga, when on his game, could make the final a match.


skeezer Says:

jane,

Errors don’t tell it all, it depends when those errors were also, at key moments. Feds serving must have been pathetic or Tsongas return game must have been awesome or a combination of both. Tsonga had 14 BP opportunities. Thats a lot against Fed. Tsonga’s serving % was very high @ 75% and first serve % won @ 81%. Those are impressive serve stats.


Giles Says:

Geez! What just happened? Totally unexpected.


van orten Says:

Fed played OK vs Murray in australia but ran out of gas..no worries..tsonga is great..but i doubt he has a Chance of winning this.. I certainly hope so..


the DA Says:

@contador – it would be a fairy tale for sure but it all depends on what happens in the other SF. Nadal, no. Nole, a chance.

Does this loss today mean that Andy stays No. 2 for Wimby?


contador Says:

Fed’s ticket was punched last round vs Simon. He did well to make to the quarter-final. But Jo looks great!


Giles Says:

Ferrer will thrash Jo. Wait and see.


Alex Says:

Man oh man, as a huge Fed fan I must say Fed deserved to lose today, he played terrible!!! :(

I could of torn my hair out…

Tsonga played awesome, congraz, hope he wins it.


nadalista Says:

@Thomas, Ferru will roll over Tsonga. You heard it here first…………

Guaranteed to be a Spaniard in the final……


skeezer Says:

“Fed’s ticket was punched last round vs Simon”

LOL totally agree conty ;)


James Says:

I see an all Spanish FO final now. Ferrer vs Nadal.
Federer gifted Tsonga many easy points. Ferrer is gonna grind out Tsonga.


Ty Says:

@contador

Do you mind explaining your reasoning behind this statement?


contador Says:

DA I don’t see Tsonga losing vs Ferrer, not this Tsonga, not now. Tsonga has finally become a clay court specialist ; ) hehe maybe just for Roland Garros…


Forehand Says:

nadalista Says:
I predicted Ferru would be in the finals. He will be.

Uncle Toni said Federer was not in the reckoning for RG. He’s out.

June 4th, 2013 at 12:19 pm

It would be great to go back and read some of comments from fed taards about Uncle Toni.
LOL.


jane Says:

skeezer, yes, agree, errors at crucial points tell part of the story. And yes, Tsonga did return quite well today, and the stats bear that out – he won 47% receiving points to Fed’s 26%. The return game is one of Fed’s weaknesses now. His serve is still excellent but when it dips a bit, he’s not always able to take advantage on the return.


Brando Says:

Roger Federer: Maybe a touch tired from the Simon match, but let’s not take credit away from Jo who was sensational. Rog did well to maintain his QF streak and now onto the grass for him which suits him better. Goo luck to the GOAT for the future- a great ambassador for the game for sure!


jamie Says:

Sean Randall is awesome at predicting. *inlove*


Giles Says:

“Tsonga has finally become a clay court specialist”.
Hmm, don’t know about that. Has he played a clay court specialist yet?
Go Daveed!!


jane Says:

contador, I did wonder if Simon’s stretching of Fed to the limit had a sort of French relay effect. :)


Forehand Says:

Uncle toni mentioned Rafa, Nole and Ferru are the favorites and Federer has no chance.
#UncleToniKnowsTennis
#FedFansKnowOnlyRafasA*s


jamie Says:

No RG vulturing this year for Olderer. *inlove*


Alex Says:

^
Thx Brando, a classy comment by a classy Nadal Fan.


contador Says:

Only expressing my views – Tsonga vs Djokovic would be a dream.

Djokovic gets his career slam or Tsonga the 1st Frenchie in eons to win FO!


Steve 27 Says:

Good one, Jo, you trash The Arrogant in a fantastic performance. But against The Wall the match will be a lot harder than this. Good luck, Tsonga.


Giles Says:

Andy Murray will remain No. 2 for Wimbledon


gonzalowski Says:

Yeah Nadalista, Uncle Tony was right.
SF, Ferru against la France… fffiuu


RZ Says:

Forehand, Uncle Toni also suggested that Dimitrov was one of the favorites, yet he couldn’t get past round 3…


Thomas Says:

nadalista, I disagree. Ferrer may beat Tsonga, but “roll him over” (I take it you mean beat him easily) I don’t think so. I think Tsonga has a decent chance actually.


Brando Says:

Tsonga: WOW, sensational stuff from him. Post R2 I actually honestly started thinking maybe just maybe Tsonga wins RG this year-30 years post Noah, and now I am totally convinced. The following: he has the home crowd completely behind him- the most boistorous crowd too, he has not dropped a set, sensationally outplayed RF in 1h 50m, has 2 days rest to prepare for Ferru. He’s got the better serve, variety and more power than Rafa or Novak- he’s playing better tennis, and he’ll be so so tough be beat with this crowd. I think he’s inspired by them, and I think destiny seems to back a Frenchman this year (look how Monfils, Gasquet played this year). Honestly: Tsonga is way, way, way more dangerous opponent or Rafa or Novak in a RG final than anyone- including Fed- since he has the game and power to outplay them. A on form Tsonga with this crowd: IMO a tough, tough task. I think he wins RG- a real gut feeling v Rafa or Novak it doesn’t matter when he has such a strong support behind him.


Forehand Says:

the DA Says:
@contador – it would be a fairy tale for sure but it all depends on what happens in the other SF. Nadal, no. Nole, a chance.

Does this loss today mean that Andy stays No. 2 for Wimby?

June 4th, 2013 at 12:28 pm

DA,
If you go by the seeding rules at Wimbledon, Federer will still be No.2 seed.
Whatever be the result at this FO Seeding order at Wimbledon will be:
Nole
Roger
Andy
Ferru
Rafa


Steve 27 Says:

Ali, This is for you:

Our deepest fear is not to be inadequate, our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond all measure … It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us.

We wonder … who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?
Really, who can not be?

You are a child of God, your playing small does not serve the world, there is nothing enlightening about shrinking so that others will not feel insecure in our presence.

We were all born to shine as children, were born to make manifest the glory of God that is within us all …. And when we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same ….

As we are liberated from our fear, our presence automatically liberates others.

Marianne Williamson


Forehand Says:

“Forehand, Uncle Toni also suggested that Dimitrov was one of the favorites”

Nope. Not true.


Forehand Says:

Weather forecast for the next three days at Paris is much better. Curtains for Nole.


James Says:

Tsonga’s playing very well, but will find the going tough against the Wall. I think the Spanish grinder will grind Tsonga out of RG.


Forehand Says:

An all spanish Rafa vs Ferru final will be tight slap on the stupid french fans.


James Says:

Nole is the favourite against Haas, but I won’t be too surprised if Nole is the next big player to go out of RG. Haas is playing very well this tournament.


Ty Says:

@Steve

That is lovely.

You had me going until the end when I realized it wasn’t your own word, but those of another who actually wasn’t afraid to be great, which contradicts the message itself, no?


Giles Says:

http://alturl.com/cpwo5
Uncle T did not say Dimitrov was one of the favourites.
@RZ. Read the article and don’t make up stories.


contador Says:

Very nice post Steve 27, @ 12:47 pm


Forehand Says:

Giles Says:
Andy Murray will remain No. 2 for Wimbledon

June 4th, 2013 at 12:40 pm

Will be ranked 2, but seeded 3.


Giles Says:

^^ I don’t know


Forehand Says:

Ferrer IS a better player than Federer.
The rankings after Wimbledon will reflect that status.


contador Says:

Whether one believes in God or not, those are some wise words about feeling insecure or not equal to the task at hand, Steve27. Jo Wili has all the talent and has put in the hard work – no reason he cannot pull out his best and execute it for two more matches. It won’t be easy – but it is possible.

Allez Jo!


Giles Says:

^^Just know that he will keep his No2 ranking


Steve 27 Says:

Djokovic: “Now that I’m number one, I intend to stay here as long as possible. I like to beat any opponent, but especially Rafa. Nadal is the favorite to win the Roland Garros”

The meaning of the victory defines us, but with whom we do defines us even more, and adds a special flavor to victory.


jane Says:

Forecast for Sunday is thundershowers…


the DA Says:

@Forehand – we’ll see. But you really think Ferrer will be seeded higher than 2-time winner Rafa? Interesting.


contador Says:

What is the forecast for Saturday, Jane? That is the question. ;)


Forehand Says:

DA,
The seeding rules consider the current ranking points plus last years grass points too. It is calculated by a computer with defined rules and not subjective.
I calculated the points and came up with this list:
Nole
Roger
Andy
Ferru
Rafa
It is neither speculation nor my opinion.


jane Says:

contador, lol, I just checked:

cool, clouds mixed with sun, showers in the evening.

But who knows – weather forecasts change by the minute.

http://www.weather-forecast.com/locations/Paris/forecasts/latest


Forehand Says:

contador Says:
What is the forecast for Saturday, Jane? That is the question. ;)

June 4th, 2013 at 1:07 pm

Semis on Friday and the forecast says sunny weather with temp touching 25 deg C.


RZ Says:

Giles, I’m not making up stories so don’t accuse me of that. As quoted in another version of the article (link is below), here’s what Uncle Toni said: “My top three favorites are [Novak] Djokovic, [David] Ferrer and Rafael. That’s today. Later we’ll see who is going to play better because [Juan Martin] del Potro, [Tomas] Berdych and [Grigor] Dimitrov can raise their levels and end up being candidates. I don’t see Federer so much as a favorite because that’s the rule of life.”
http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2013/05/federer-not-one-toni-nadals-french-favorites/47525/#.Ua4fHZxaRpE


Okiegal Says:

Sorry for Fed fans today. This match reminded me of Tsonga and Rafa at the Aussie Open a few years back. Seems like JWT could do no wrong. I think when Fed gets down, his heart just isn’t it anymore. But, Wimby is just around the corner. He will be fired up for that.

In the mean time, hope Rafa can beat Stan and then meet Novak…..then we will see what’s gonna happen, no??? Rafa, bite that trophy for the 8th time.!!! Vamos


jane Says:

It would seem weird to see Ferru ahead of Rafa at Wimbledon; after all Rafa’s been in 5 finals and is a two time champion there! Surely they’d give Rafa seeding ahead of Ferrer or no?


RZ Says:

^Also pointing that out to Forehand too.


RZ Says:

Jane, I’d think that Wimbledon’s seeding formula would give Rafa a higher seed than Ferru. But they seed according to their formula for the men, and won’t stray from that like they used too.


Giles Says:

@RZ Key words in your quote “Later we’ll see who is going to play better ……”. So Grigor having been knocked out was he ever in contention?


jane Says:

Oh that’s right! Semis on Friday. Well the link I posted says clear in the morning with showers in the afternoon but warm. The worst looking day there is actually next Monday, which says “heavy” rain.

RZ, I’d think so too/


Forehand Says:

jane Says:
It would seem weird to see Ferru ahead of Rafa at Wimbledon; after all Rafa’s been in 5 finals and is a two time champion there! Surely they’d give Rafa seeding ahead of Ferrer or no?

June 4th, 2013 at 1:12 pm

Jane,

I dont think you all are getting my point.
The list I gave is NOT my opinion or based on anyone else subjective seeding order.

Source wikipedia:
“The seeding order is determined using the formula: ATP Entry System Position points + 100% points earned for all grass court tournaments in the past 12 months + 75% points earned for the best grass court tournament in the 12 months before that. ”

Rafa gained 90 (Wimbledon) + 45 (Halle) during the last grass season. Ferru made the semis at wimbledon and gained 720 points.

Apply the logic mentioned above and calculate the points and you will understand my list. Its quite simple.


James Says:

@Okiegal, Rafa will be there in the semi. It’s Nole who needs to play very well to take down Tommy Haas who is playing very well this tournament. If Nole is below his usual self, Haas will blow him out.
Stan has never beaten Rafa Nadal. Their H2H stands at 9-0 in the Mallorcan’s favour. It’s very unlikely Stan will beat Rafa at RG when he’s never beaten him before.


RZ Says:

Giles, it’s a matter of interpretation. I intepret his use of “later” as meaning further down the rankings, but I can understand why it was interpreted by you to mean in the later rounds.

In any case, I still would like to point out that I don’t make up stories and shouldn’t be accused of doing so.


jane Says:

Forehand, thanks, I do get it.

But I remember when Serena was ranked lower due to injury time away, and didn’t they raise her up considerably? Is there different systems for the ladies’ seedings.


nadalista Says:

The Final is on Friday, Sunday will be an Exhibition Match to decide who gets the trophy……….

The weather forecast that matters is Friday’s….


Forehand Says:

RZ Says:
Jane, I’d think that Wimbledon’s seeding formula would give Rafa a higher seed than Ferru. But they seed according to their formula for the men, and won’t stray from that like they used too.

June 4th, 2013 at 1:15 pm

I am really getting tired in trying to explain this. As per the current ATP rankings Rafa has a slender lead of 155 points over Ferru. If you consider last years grass points, Ferru will overtake Rafa.
Another interesting fact is that if Ferru gets to FO final Rafa will be pushed back to 5 even if he wins FO.

So by NO means Rafa can get a better seeding than no.5.


contador Says:

Thanks forehand and Jane. The weather plays a role in the drama. Not so much in tennis as in other sports, but it does perhaps psychologically, play a part – together with the crowd and other variables.

Pretty spectacular that Tommy Haas is in the quarter-final of RG at age 35, too; quite a phenomenal comeback…

There is a few Cinderella backstories this year: Haas, Ferru, Jo Wili – all in with a shot, at least on paper .


Ben Pronin Says:

I don’t think Ferrer is the favorite against Tsonga. Regardless of Ferrer’s consistency, there’s a reason everyone yelled at Murray to develop a big weapon for so long. You don’t win slams without being explosive. This stage was made for Tsonga. Ferrer could beat him, but I’d say it’s 50/50 at best.


Forehand Says:

“So by NO means Rafa can get a better seeding than no.5.”

Not 100% correct. Rafa may get higher seeding if one of the top 4 (Nole, Roger, Andy, Ferrer) pulls out of Wimbledon.


jane Says:

I kind of agree Ben; it seems like an ideal change for Jo to make the final, and if he does, who knows? We have all seen him turn it on at slams before – he has wins over all the big four at the slams.


jane Says:

* chance not change


Giles Says:

Ferrer bookies fav over Jo.


Steve 27 Says:

Forehand, Nadal only gained 90 points in the grass season last year. And Ferru won a tournament(hertogoenbosh) and 360 for his qf in Wimbledon.


James Says:

@Ben, Tsonga is a fantastic offensive player but lacks the defense needed to take down a grinder like Ferrer. But if he plays sensibly, a mix of offence and defense, he can and should beat Ferrer. Like you said it’s 50/50.
It would make for a good final if Tsonga is there with most likely Nadal. It wouldn’t be a nice final if Nadal is to take on Ferrer.
Nole can make it there as well, but more question mark on his chances than that of Nadal.


Colin Says:

This Marianne Williamson: let me guess – she’s American?
Just checked, and sure enough she is. She’s a “spiritual teacher”, whatever the heck that is.

The natural world we live in is a place of endless diversity and surpassing wonder, but that doesn’t seem to satisfy people, and they feel a need to witter on about things “spiritual”.


Forehand Says:

Steve 27 Says:
Forehand, Nadal only gained 90 points in the grass season last year. And Ferru won a tournament(hertogoenbosh) and 360 for his qf in Wimbledon.

June 4th, 2013 at 1:34 pm

You are right Steve except for the fact that Ferrer made the semis of wimbledon last year (720 points).


Ben Pronin Says:

Tsonga making the final would be 100 times better than Ferrer making the final.


Forehand Says:

Ben Pronin Says:
I don’t think Ferrer is the favorite against Tsonga.

You are wrong again.

What you think doesnt matter and has no value.

You also thought that Federer had a better chance than Ferrer. Uncle Toni and Rafa fans called it correctly.


James Says:

Now imagine if David Ferrer and Wawrinka are to meet in the final! How many of us would be watching that? I’d be happy for both but won’t be watching it.


Ben Pronin Says:

Ferrer didn’t make the semis of Wimbledon ever. Murray beat Tsonga in one semi, Federer beat Djokovic in the other.


Margot Says:

Wow Jo, just wow. Roger Racheed has worked some magic, never seen him so focused for a whole match. His ROS seemed very improved to me, also looked thinner. Think Fed was more bothered by the wind too, seemed to lose more points playing into the wind.
Didn’t see Ferrer’s match but everyone says he’s playing as good as ever too. Think he has a positive H2H against Jo.
Looking forward to the next matches already.


Steve 27 Says:

You are right Steve except for the fact that Ferrer made the semis of wimbledon last year (720 points).

No, Andy beat Ferru in qf at Wimbledon. Check again in Wikipedia


jane Says:

Ferrer made the semis of the USO, AO and FO before I believe, but not Wimbledon.


contador Says:

Had to look up the h2h on Ferrer vs Tsonga:

They have only played three times! WOW. I expected more and worse numbers on clay vs Ferru for Jo!

This is quite doable for Jo. Gotta factor in how nervous Ferru might get on such a big stage. If this was a lesser tournament Jo and less than 5 sets… normally I would pick Ferrer. But I give Jo the slight advantage.

And I completely forgot about Rafa having one more match before playing Nole! hahaha…easy to miss that other Swiss. Stan won’t win but he will put up a decent fight.


nadalista Says:

“Tsonga making the final would be 100 times better than Ferrer making the final.”
………………………………………….

The better player will be in the final, and it will be Ferru.


Forehand Says:

I am sorry guys. I was wrong about Ferrer and wimbledon SFs.


jane Says:

contador, I don’t think Stan has ever won a set versus Rafa, so your little slip is under-stan-able.


the DA Says:

“Tsonga making the final would be 100 times better than Ferrer making the final.”

Amen.


Ben Pronin Says:

Ferrer isn’t a better player. And it doesn’t change the fact that it would be a 100 times better either way. Not only will the final be a complete dud with weaponless Ferrer hiding his head between his legs against maybe Djokovic and most likely Nadal, but can you imagine an all Spanish final? Forget the ratings, the stadium won’t even be full!


contador Says:

Hahaha, “under stan able” :D

Stan wants a word with you, Jane … and he is a big bruiser of a fella ;)


jane Says:

I like Ferrer a lot; he is a very consistent player and has been for some time. However, I think Tsonga would make for a more exciting final in some ways:

1. He has a more explosive game than Ferrer.
2. He is of the Gallic sort.
3. He seems to have more belief against the other top players.
4. He’s beaten Fed, Nole, Rafa & Muzza at slams (I don’t think we can say the same re: Ferrer?).
5. He’d have the FO crowd in a frenzy.


jane Says:

contador, ha ha. ;)


Forehand Says:

Ben Pronin Says:
but can you imagine an all Spanish final? Forget the ratings, the stadium won’t even be full!

June 4th, 2013 at 1:58 pm

Hahaha Ben. I think you have not understood the attitude and strength of fed taards.

You are right that Ferrer doesnt have a following. But if he somehow makes the final I bet my life that all the fed taards will be rooting hard for Ferrer against Rafa in the final (including you).

LOL.


nadalista Says:

RT @SI_BTBaseline: “Tsonga said he and Rasheed sat down and watched tape of how Rafa played Roger. “I tried to do the same. Today it worked.” #RG13″


Kimberly Says:

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I agree Tsonga v. whoever would be a better final but have a heart people, Ferrer deserves it doesn’t he! He works so hard. Yes, it would be a lamo walkover like Ben said but still sweet for David to at least get to compete once in his career in a GS final.


jane Says:

I think Ferrer has a very good shot at reaching the final, though, having said that. He is consistent, and Tsonga’s level can be very volatile. So I don’t know what to predict. Hopefully they have a good semi.

Would love for Nole to at least get to the semi and have a shot against Rafa, but I am not looking past Haas. He’s a great player with nothing to lose. Nole will have to be sharp from the beginning tomorrow.


Kimberly Says:

Wawrinka has Magnus Norman, who coached Soderling into beating Nadal, im not taking anything for granted in that match.


Forehand Says:

Ferrer is a better player than Tsonga (ATP rankings says that too) and a FAAR better player on clay. If Tsonga beats Ferrer it is an upset, not the other way around.


nadalista Says:

@Ben Pronin, unless you subscribe to the Gulbis doctrine, the better player is the one who wins. Ferru will win, therefore he will be the better player.

Your preferences don’t matter here………

#NeverInDoubt


jane Says:

Kimberly, may I set your mind at ease:

http://www.atpworldtour.com/Players/Head-To-Head.aspx?pId=N409&oId=W367

Rafa has never even lost a SET to Stan in 9 matches. Even if Stan wins a set it’ll be headway for him.


Ben Pronin Says:

Will they be rooting for Ferrer? Or against Nadal? Either way, that doesn’t mean they’ll tune in. I won’t go out of my way to wake up for that…

Just because Ferrer “deserves” it doesn’t mean he should get it.


nadalista Says:

Ferru does not have a problem dispatching big servers on clay. Look at how he neutralised Raonic in Barcelona and Anderson in the round of 16……..

Ferru will retrieve everything Tsonga throws at him and return with interest. Did you see Ferru’s new aggressive game in Madrid and Rome? Tsonga will be frustrated and make a tonne of errors………..


Forehand Says:

Ben Pronin Says:
Will they be rooting for Ferrer? Or against Nadal?

Obviously against Nadal. Anyone against Nadal.

Were you not present here during his matches against Klizan, Fognini, etc ?

Every Tom, d1ck and harry will get the support of fed taards while playing against Rafa.


Ben Pronin Says:

Nadalista, are you the new Jamie? Pretty sure we don’t know who will win until the winner wins.

Forehand: Tsonga
Backhand: Ferrer
Serve: Tsonga
Return: Ferrer
Movement: Ferrer
Intangibles: Tsonga

So like I said, 50/50.


Forehand Says:

nadalista Says:
Did you see Ferru’s new aggressive game in Madrid and Rome?

You stole my words Nadalista. Ferrer has developed a fantastic aggressive game on clay. He had Rafa (almost) a couple of times.


contador Says:

No – call me whatever names –

Could not pay me to watch either a Fedal or a Ferrudal for a French Open final. LOL… duds all of it, duds.

Friday is the final, as Nadalista points out, somewhere above. that is, if Ferrer comes through vs Tsonga. But I don’t think or see Ferrer beating Tsonga on Philippe Chartrier Court not vs our Gallic hero.

So hopefully we get Tsonga vs someone from the top half, (ajde Nole) and if Nole wins RG, then I must cheer Rafa at the US Open…Wimbledon, I am committed to cheering Andy Murray.


jane Says:

nadalista, you could be right about the return of serve; Ferrer’s is more of a weapon than Fed’s these days and so he will get more back. He is number one in 2013 in first serve returns. However, he is not as high in converting BPs. There is no doubt Tsonga will have to serve well to have a chance of reaching the final. He will have to come to net and/or paint the lines. It’s probably 50/50, or maybe a bit of an edge to Daveed because of consistency. It depends how mentally composed and accurately Tsonga can play too.


RZ Says:

Here’s a summary of the Wimbledon seeding formula: ATP points + grass court points from the last 12 months + 75 percent of grass court points from the 12 months before that. Wouldn’t Rafa’s run to the 2011 finals help bump his seeding above Ferrer’s?


Ben Pronin Says:

How much more pot calling kettle black nonsense are we going to get on here? Really? So only Federer fans root against Nadal? We didn’t have Giles saying “go Simon” or “go Benneteau”? I’m sure he’s just a big fan of French players…

Nadalista, so Anderson and Raonic are on Tsonga’s level now?


jane Says:

A Rafa vs Ferrer final could be a rout, like last year’s semi here. It was a total washout. And Rafa has already bageled Ferrer twice on clay this year. So I am hoping against that final. Jo would probably lose to Rafa too but he might make it a little tighter in the sets.


Steve 27 Says:

I think a possible final between Nadal and Ferrer would be a 1000 times more interesting than a Bruguera Berasategui in 1994.
If you dont like it, easy, dont watch it!


karina Says:

Let’s be honest, the only player left in the draw that Rafa can beat is Haas, so he’s going to have to pray that Tommy can get his second straight win against Djoker. Ferrer has been playing out of his mind, and Tsonga looks like he’s playing at an all time best. Nadal has been looking very weary, and I think nadalista blindly believes that he can win another Coupe des Mousquetaires.

My prediction, nadalista is going to look silly on Sunday!


James Says:

@Kimberly, Stan isn’t confident against Rafa, at least that’s how he sounded in his post match (with Gasquet) interview. Also, have you forgotten how Rafa played Soderling in 2010 final? I appreciate Wawrinka for the way he played in the tournament so far. But beating Rafa on clay in a best of 5 sets? That’s asking too much. He’ll give good fight but Nadal will take him in straight sets.


Ben Pronin Says:

At the end of the day, no one cares what tennis fans, especially the diehard fanatics, want. It’s all about the casual viewer. Ferrer = no one gives a hoot.


James Says:

@Ben, I agree that Nadal-Ferrer final won’t be as much fun as Nadal-Tsonga or Tsonga-Djokovic. But there will be people watching the final even if it’s Nadal-Ferrer. You see, Roger Federer isn’t the only tennis player with massive following.


jane Says:

Bruguera vs Courier was a good one though!


skeezer Says:

So funny seeing these Rafantics posts after a Fed loss. The most laughable one is how a Ferru / Nadal final would be “1000 times more interesting”…keep them coming…I hope for your sake rafa doesn’t disappoint you, you all will go poof! in a nano second.
LMAO.

You guys are already counting Rafa in the final and Ferru.

NOTICE: The silent Nole fans are waiting, smiling…..

Nobody is picking a possible Tsonga / Nole final?

Now that would be a very entertaining match!

If Tsonga brought his best game he could play, and Ferrer would bring his game he could play, I’d pick Tsonga everytime.

The historical difference between the 2 has been Ferru is very consistent at what he does. Tsonga is not. We’ll see…we’ll see…


James Says:

Tommy Haas can upset Nole tomorrow. But I’d like Nole to win and meet Rafa in the semi final. As a Rafa fan, I’d like him to shut up his doubters (which includes many of his fans) with a Djoko bashing performance in the semi final. Bring it on, Djoker!


JF Says:

I would love to see Ferrer in the final, not because he’s a spaniard, but if anything just as some kind of reward for all the consistency he has shown throughout his career. He really is the world’s 5th best player.


Forehand Says:

karina Says:
Let’s be honest, the only player left in the draw that Rafa can beat is Haas, so he’s going to have to pray that Tommy can get his second straight win against Djoker. Ferrer has been playing out of his mind, and Tsonga looks like he’s playing at an all time best. Nadal has been looking very weary, and I think nadalista blindly believes that he can win another Coupe des Mousquetaires.

My prediction, nadalista is going to look silly on Sunday!

LOL, your logic is flawed. If Rafa can beat only Haas, it means that he is going out against Stan wawa in the QF.
So even if Tommy beats Nole, he cannot save Rafa, because Rafa has already lost the QF and gone fishing somewhere in mallorca.

ROTFL.

My prediction/conclusion. You are already looking silly.


karina Says:

Ferrer is consistently mediocre. If Rafa’s steroids wear off, we’re going to see a Djoker Tsonga final again.


Steve 27 Says:

caro Karina andate a vedere Fognini fare alcune sue buffonate.


nadalista Says:

@Ben Pronin, Anderson and Raonic have better serves compared to Tsonga. Without his big serve Tsonga is pretty average….

@jane said, “It depends how mentally composed and accurately Tsonga can play too.” You nailed it. My take of where Ferru’s game is, is that Ferru will frustrate Tsonga, he will drive him crazy….

@karina, I don’t mind looking silly. My question is: will you admit to looking silly when Ferru beats Tsonga? Something to think about: Ferru has beaten Tsonga once on clay and once on HC. Tsonga has returned the favour once, on grass.


JF Says:

Consistently mediocre? How do you figure? he’s been in the 5 for years and even longer in the top 10. How many tournaments has he made the final or semi only to loss to Nadal or another top 4 player? Like I said, he is truly number 5 in the world. Thats far more consistant than many others.
As for Nadal, what steroids?


Steve 27 Says:

e lavare la bocca con il sapone prima di accusare qualcuno, poco irrispettoso.


nadalista Says:

My bad, didn’t realise @karina was a troll………….


Ben Pronin Says:

Tsonga is pretty average without his serve? Then what does that make Ferrer? The Average poster child? Tsonga, at least, has good touch and a huge forehand to compliment his huge-but-not-as-huge-as-Raonic’s serve.


Forehand Says:

“Ferrer has been playing out of his mind” at 2:39pm

“Ferrer is consistently mediocre” at 2:55pm

ROTFL…Sky is the limit for the stupidity of fed taards.


karina Says:

rude to call a long time lurker, a troll. I’ll admit to looking silly without a doubt. Let’s go Nole!


JF Says:

lol @ forehand


JF Says:

I’ve been a long time fan of this site and usually just read all the antics going back and forth but sometimes I just feel the need to add my 2 cents as well… Especially to really dumb posters. I’m a Rafa fan but also like to think I stay level headed and give credit where when due, IMO.


Steve 27 Says:

ROTFL…Sky is the limit for the stupidity of fed taards.
Exactly, Forehand, Einstein was right. fedtaards are the reason why he said that!
As religion says: Forgive them, for they know not what they say.


James Says:

Karina, if any player is doping, it’s Novak Djokovic. Nadal has always been an amazing athlete while Novak had difficulty completing 5 setters and was a known quitter ’till he got to liking “The Egg”
so stop this nonsense. Thanks


jane Says:

We used to have a “JCF” poster here; is that you, by chance, “JF” ?

Thinking about “older” players playing well around the age of 30, JCF was another example. In 2009 he was great on grass and summer hard courts.


JF Says:

Hi Jane. No I’ve always used JF it’s my initials :)


jane Says:

Okay JF. Cheers. :)


contador Says:

Tsonga beat Ferrer on grass at Wimbledon in a round of 16 in 2011. Tsonga in 3 sets won – only one set was close.

Ferrer beat Tsonga on clay in Rome in 2010 and on hc indoors in Paris in 2012

Playing only three times does not make a strong case for going by the H2H. I thought they had played more times before looking it up.
Also, there is nothing recent, as in this clay season to go on. Nothing really to suggest a poor match-up or psychological advantage either way, imo, So, you could give it to Ferrer due to his better history on clay but I don’t think so – the Wimbledon win is more similar as to the stage, plus this is the French Open.

advantage Tsonga for the final – oh that sounds scary = scary good. And it has a nice ring to it! Tsonga to the final – my mantra.

advantage Rafa vs UnderStan
advantage Nole vs Tommy


Ben Pronin Says:

Nole’s record in 5 set matches was like 7-3 prior to 2011. And he played the longest 5 setter in US Open history since tiebreakers in 2007 in the second round and made it all the way to the final. How is that struggling in 5 set matches??


jane Says:

UnderStan, lol, that’s a classic methinks. ; P


Giles Says:

Hey skeezer the geezer. Remember 16/1? Lol


jane Says:

Ben, one silly accusation begets another one, alas.


Ben Pronin Says:

And Nadal being an amazing athlete doesn’t mean he always had super human stamina. Federer physically outlasted him in the 2005 Miami final.


Okiegal Says:

@James

Rafa always


skeezer Says:

“Why can I beat Ferrer?” Tsonga said. “Because I hit harder, I serve better and I’ve become more consistent and have improved my endurance.”

Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/tennis/news/20130604/french-open-roger-federer-jo-wilfried-tsonga/#ixzz2VHFdzGUr


James Says:

Ben, I’m not accusing Novak of doping. He was good even before 2011 but if you remember he did get accuse of quitting more than other players. Also I was responding to Karina and saying it’s silly to accuse any player of doping.


Giles Says:

@ Forehand and @Steve 27. ROFL at your posts. Keep ‘em coming.


contador Says:

woe…there is some bad language in Italian on this thread.

What does Fognini have to do with the discussion, anyways.


Steve 27 Says:

The interesting thing is that these sewer rats appear much more with Rafa defeats than with victories of his dethroned hero.
I bet $ 1000 that skeezer and other trolls with his little sanity, going to write dozens of times if Nadal lost to the funny Serbian .


James Says:

You talk nonsense, you get nonsense.


Ben Pronin Says:

James, fair enough.

http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2013/06/roland-garros-tsonga-d-federer/47799/

Good read. McGrogan doesn’t seem to think Ferrer is a shoe-in for the final.


James Says:

@Steve 27, and what if the Nadal takes down the Djoker in a non funny way?


Okiegal Says:

@James

Rafa always takes one match at a time. Never likes to count his chickens before they hatch, and neither do I. Any player can get beat on any given day. I hope he can beat Stan. Rafa respects his game very much. I want him in the semis with someone and I just don’t see Haas being able to beat Novak a 2nd time.


skeezer Says:

@steve 27

“The interesting thing is that these sewer rats appear much more with Rafa defeats than with victories of his dethroned hero.”

You mean that the other way around. Look at all the posts. This is the true, no?

With the kind of sh!t you types are posting today, you can bet hard that if Rafa(Mr. Shoo-in) loses I’ll be posting lots of goodies ;).


James Says:

@Okiegal, I’m not underestimating Stan but being logical about it. Stan has never beaten Rafa in 9 previous encounters. He could still surprise or shock us all. But it’s kind of hard to imagine a player that’s never beaten Rafa anywhere to beat him at RG. Also like I mentioned earlier, Stan doesn’t sound confident about his chances going into the match. I’m trying to put myself in both their shoes. How would I feel if I were to play with someone who seems almost invincible at French Open and has beaten me 9/9. I’d try but wouldn’t be too confident about it. And if I were Rafa, how would I look at it. I’d be very confident knowing I’ve had him every time. But I’d try not to make mistakes or a player like Stan could make me pay for them. Gotta be sharp but I think I can and should.


jane Says:

I think a good portion of Nole’s fans know that one of the ultimate challenges in tennis within the last decade is trying to beat Rafa on clay. I was speaking with a friend and we were saying that beating Rafa at Roland Garros is almost bigger than winning Roland Garros itself! Nole’s H2H on clay versus Nadal is 3-12 so the odds are firmly against him – even if he does beat Tommy.

But as his fan, I love and appreciate the fact that Nole keeps putting himself in the position to achieve results on clay, which is why the clay H2H with Rafa is what it is. Nole, like Fed before him, is often reaching the finals or semifinals. Not always, of course, but he is consistently very good on clay, and so my hope is that he’ll win Roland Garros one day. If not this year, then another year.

First, though, he’ll have to beat a wily veteran with nothing to lose and a varied and tricky game. Fingers crossed!


Steve 27 Says:

James, I think if Nadal regains its level in all its splendor, is greater than the Serb on clay and grass, I have no doubts. I hope it will touch the Serb at Wimbledon, because Andy is on his mission for glory do not have the British from Perry


Giles Says:

skeezer the geezer. So let us Rafans hope and pray that you don’t get the opportunity to post your “goodies” or do you mean “cr@p”?
#MiserableLoser
#16/1
#MassacreInRome


Steve 27 Says:

skeezer you are a funny troll. keep it up!


James Says:

@Okiegal, I know Nole currently is the most difficult player for Rafa. But I’d like Rafa vs Nole semi final. I trust Rafa to not let his head play too much with him. It would do him wonder to get this monkey off his shoulder like he did last year beating Nole in 3 finals. Many of his fans are now doubting him against Nole like how Fed fans doubt him against Nadal. But I think Rafa has the mental toughness very possess in sports.


jane Says:

Steve 27, do you mean Troicki, or perhaps Tipsy? After all, there is more than one “the Serb” on the tour.


James Says:

*few


M Says:

@contador –

“Could not pay me to watch either a Fedal or a Ferrudal for a French Open final. “

See, that’s peachy. Because then there’ll be one more seat, and I can bring a friend.
:-)


M Says:

@JF –

“Consistently mediocre? How do you figure? he’s been in the 5 for years and even longer in the top 10. How many tournaments has he made the final or semi only to loss to Nadal or another top 4 player? Like I said, he is truly number 5 in the world. Thats far more consistant [sp] than many others.”

Aaand I think we’re done here.

#thatsallfolks


Steve 27 Says:

Jane, with all due respect, who is Troicky or Tipsarevic. You know who I’m talking about.


Giles Says:

@James. Don’t worry about Rafa’s mental toughness against the joker or any other player on the tour. It’s his knee that is the problem. I hope it holds up for the battles to come.
Vamos King!!


James Says:

@Jane, Nole is the Serb just as Roger is the Swiss and Andy the Brit lol


jane Says:

What about Stan the man, innit he a Swiss bloke too then?


James Says:

@Giles, at this point I’m not too worried about his knee either. Saw him run all over the court last few matches. If anything it would be on his mind rather than the actual injury.


contador Says:

But I tend to go with the most recent trend – if the H2H is lopsided, jane. It is far from a clear case with Nole vs Rafa on clay – Nole vs Rafa on clay is still under construction. Well, the entire h2h is in fluctuation. On any given surface one or the other can win – it is close; unlike Ferrer, an aging star who has been beneath Nadal for years now. Rafa would need to injure himself during the match for Ferrer to beat him – not wishing it, just observing what it would take for Ferrer to register a win over Nadal – on any surface in a GS particularly.

In fact, I would say Rafa owns everyone except Nole on clay and that is what gives their match-up the interest for a tennis fan, indeed. But Nole has to get by an inspired Tommy Haas, first.

If Tommy goes on to beat Nole and beat Rafa, then wins the trophy, my eye-brows about tennis being clean will be permanently raised.


contador Says:

That is fine M – like I said could not be paid.


Steve 27 Says:

If Tommy goes on to beat Nole and beat Rafa, then wins the trophy, my eye-brows about tennis being clean will be permanently raised.

hey contador, Rafa defeated a few times to Tommy in Cincinnati, which called fedtards, the faster surface in the tour. I ask. How a 35 year old in his worst surface will defeat the other who is the best of all time in a certain surface?
I know you like the jokes, but this is in bad taste. Respect to Serbian, I think he can give him a good scare like in Miami, Halle and Wimbledon.


jane Says:

contador, it’s true Nole’s had some success, even on clay, in the last couple of years; I think Rafole are 3-3 on clay in that span? Still, should they meet here, it’s best of five and we all know it’s a gargantuan (t)ask. I’ll always hold hope for Nole because he has a huge heart & strong will; if he can find his best tennis, then…well. I guess you never know.

Tommy will not be easy to beat. Let’s wait and see how he does there!


contador Says:

Just setting an imaginary bar, jane. I think doping was mentioned on this thread and in a few threads here recently. It is far from a new thought or subject to me, as you might understand. ;)

I don’t wish for tennis and tennis fans to go through the hell that cycling has. No one can win without there being a question of doping – it is heartbreaking each time, too. Really does damage to not just the athlete but their family, ect. sad, very sad.


Steve 27 Says:

Komm Tommy, du weißt, wie man die Serben schlagen.
Ich wünsche Ihnen allen viel Glück morgen.


Alex Says:

^

Hope you understand Swiss german, lol, unwritten launguage- not so, we use it amongst our selves.

Hahahah, Ich hoffe er dut ihn fertig mache, aber mir weiB ja das es waschindli noed so wird see, aber mir cha ja hoffe :)


Steve 27 Says:

hey Alex, what do you expect about Haas Djokovic?, do you think the good Tommy can upset Novak like Wimbledon 2009 or is a fantasy?


Alex Says:

@Steve

I would love it, my Head tells me Djokovic in 3.

Anything is possible though!!

I think Tommy will do better than Fed, that’s for sure:).


Steve 27 Says:

One thing for all tennis fans:
Haas is the third oldest man to reach qf in RG.
Who are the other two: The great Pancho Gonzalez in his 40!(talk about oldies) in 1968 the fist GS in open era and István Gulyás in 1971 with almost 40, too.
Tommy, Your path is full of obstacles, but your spirit is overwhelming.


Wog boy Says:

…………
James Says:
@Jane, Nole is the Serb just as Roger is the Swiss and Andy the Brit lol

June 4th, 2013 at 4:04 pm
…………..

Please explain. You obviously know better than Nole what he is?


James Says:

Wog boy, No sir, I don’t. I just know that when people talk about a Serb tennis player they usually mean Novak Djokovic.


Wog boy Says:

^^^ Are you sure we didn’t meet before on TX?


Wog boy Says:

You sound very familiar.


James Says:

Wog boy, that comment from me about Nole the Serb wasn’t meant to be serious.
I don’t know who I remind you of but no, I don’t recall talking to you before.


Wog boy Says:

James,

Never mind.


M Says:

@contador –

Ferru has actually beaten Rafa, even once on clay IINM.

I’d be careful about tossing around “always” and “never” when talking about those two in this situation. It’s been Ferru, not Rafa, who’s been named “Spanish Player of the Year” two consecutive years this year and the one before.

Sometimes when you get what might be your only chance at something, that takes you further than you thought you could ever go.


M Says:

‘Course, I’m talking like Ferru’s already in the final, LOL. He’s still got to get past a motivated JWT, who’s playing very (very) well. He’s been waiting for this chance since he beat Rafa in late rounds at the AO years ago — and his “home Slam”, too? His only vulnerability, I think, is his consistency.


contador Says:

M -

lols, you have looked at their h2h recently? Safely, I say, something would need to be seriously wrong for Rafa Nadal to lose!

Ferrer has not beaten an uninjured Rafa since before the stone age – okay that is hype – i mean since before 2007 !

You can have my seat :D


contador Says:

And Contador is winning the Tour de France! Well, I can hope.


Tennis x hippy chic Says:

Karina says lets be honest the only player thats left in the draw that Nadal can beat is Haas eeerrr WHAT? corrct me if im wrong but to the best of my knowledge Stan has never took a set of Rafa on clay,David has never beaten Rafa on clay,Haas has never beaten Rafa on clay,JWT has never beaten Rafa on clay,Novak has beaten Rafa on clay,but never at RG,Soderling was the only player to do that,Rafa has won the FO title 7 times,surely of all the players left in the draw,OK im not saying hes unbeatable by any means,but you would think it would be down to one of those players with something to prove,but surely not Rafa?

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