French Open SFs Open Thread: Djokovic v Nadal, Tsonga v Ferrer
by Staff | June 7th, 2013, 5:53 am
  • 541 Comments

The biggest weekend of the clay season gets underway Friday at the French Open. Up first is a blockbuster semifinal featuring rivals Rafael Nadal against Novak Djokovic. Then it’s French favorite Jo-Wilfried Tsonga against David Ferrer. While the first semi features two of the game’s greats, the second has Ferrer trying to reach his first Slam final and Tsonga just his second.

Match time is 1pm locally in Paris.

ITF semifinal notes:

For the 9th consecutive Grand Slam 3 of the Top 4 seeds feature in the semifinals. The last time 3 of the Top 4 seeds failed to reach the semifinals at a Grand Slam was at the 2011 Australian Open. This was also the last time a player seeded outside the Top 4 reached a Grand Slam final.

Novak Djokovic will look to keep his hopes of completing his Grand Slam set this year alive by defeating Rafael Nadal as the 2 players meet in the semifinals of a tournament for the first time since 2009 Paris-1000.

Nadal is bidding to reach his 8th Roland Garros final and remain in the hunt to become the 1st man in history to win 8 titles at the same Grand Slam event.

Jo-Wilfried Tsonga is looking to become the first French finalist at Roland Garros since Henri Leconte in 1988. Hoping to stop him, David Ferrer is bidding to reach his first Grand Slam final and avoid equalling Tim Henman’s record of 6 Grand Slam semifinal defeats without reaching the final of a major.

Both Tsonga and Ferrer have reached the semifinals without dropping a set. If either of them reach the final here without dropping a set they will become just the 7th man in the Open Era to reach the Roland Garros final without dropping a set (Bjorn Borg achieved this feat 3 times, while Nadal has done it 4 times). Nadal is the last man to achieve that feat here last year.

Tsonga has won fewer matches this year than the other 3 semifinalists. Nadal leads the way with 41 wins – 36 of which have come on clay. The Spaniard has lost just two matches this year.

NO. 1 NOVAK DJOKOVIC (SRB) v NO. 3 RAFAEL NADAL (ESP)
Head-to-head: Nadal leads 19-15

This is the 35th meeting between Djokovic and Nadal. This is the joint-most matches played in a head-to-head at Tour-level in the Open Era:

Jimmy Connors v John McEnroe 35
Jimmy Connors v Ivan Lendl 35
Novak Djokovic v Rafael Nadal 35
Andre Agassi v Pete Sampras 34
Ivan Lendl v John McEnroe 34

Djokovic ended a 3-match losing streak to Nadal with victory in the final at Monte Carlo-1000 earlier this year.

Their last Grand Slam meeting in the final here last year saw Djokovic take his first set off Nadal at Roland Garros in 4 attempts.

This is Djokovic and Nadal’s 10th Grand Slam encounter, putting them in joint-2nd place for the most matches played at majors:

Djokovic is also bidding to become the 16th man in the Open Era to reach back-to-back finals at Roland Garros.

Djokovic is looking to become just the 8th man in history to complete the career Grand Slam after Andre Agassi, Don Budge, Roy Emerson, Federer, Rod Laver, Rafael Nadal and Fred Perry. He is one of 11 men to have collected 3 of the 4 major titles in the Open Era.

Of the 7 men to possess a career Grand Slam, 4 of them ‘completed the set’ at Roland Garros: Fred Perry in 1935, Donald Budge in 1938, Andre Agassi in 1999 and Roger Federer in 2009

This is Djokovic’s 12th consecutive Grand Slam semifinal. He is currently in 2nd place for the most consecutive Grand Slam semifinal appearances.

Djokovic is the only man to win 3 or more Grand Slam matches against Nadal. Only 5 men have won multiple Grand Slam matches against the Spaniard.

Defending champion NADAL is bidding to become the first man in history to win 8 titles at the same Grand Slam event. He is one of 7 men in history to have won 7 Grand Slam titles at one event [see Preview page 1]. Nadal and Chris Evert are the only players to have won 7 Roland Garros titles.

Nadal will become the leading performer in Roland Garros history if he wins the title here. Nadal has a 57-1 win-loss record at Roland Garros, putting him 3rd on the list for most wins at Roland Garros behind joint-leaders Roger Federer (58) and Guillermo Vilas (58).

Nadal is bidding to win his 12th Grand Slam title overall. He is currently joint-4th with Bjorn Borg and Rod Laver on the list of all-time Grand Slam men’s singles title holders behind Roger Federer (17), Pete Sampras (14) and Roy Emerson (12).

At the 2010 US Open, Nadal became the 7th man in history to win all 4 Grand Slam titles. He was the 3rd-youngest in history and the youngest man in the Open Era, to do so.

Nadal is bidding to reach his 17th Grand Slam final. He is currently in joint-5th place with Bjorn Borg and Ken Rosewall on the all-time list of most appearances in Grand Slam finals.

NO. 4 DAVID FERRER (ESP) v NO. 6 JO-WILFRIED TSONGA (FRA)
Head-to-head: Ferrer leads 2-1

FERRER is bidding to reach a Grand Slam final for the first time.

If Ferrer reaches the final for the first time in his 42nd Grand Slam appearance he will have made more Grand Slam appearances than any other player in the Open Era before reaching a final.

TSONGA is bidding to become the first Frenchman to reach the Roland Garros final since Henri Leconte in 1988. He would become the 10th different Frenchman since the event became international in 1925 to reach the final here.

Tsonga is looking to become just the 5th Frenchman since 1925 to reach multiple Grand Slam finals after Jean Borotra, Henri Cochet, Rene Lacoste and Cedric Pioline.

The last Frenchman to reach a Grand Slam final is Tsonga at the 2008 Australian Open (l. Novak Djokovic). Unseeded he defeated 3 Top 10 players en route to the final.

FRIDAY FRENCH OPEN SCHEDULE
Court Philippe Chatrier 1:00 PM Start Time
Novak Djokovic (SRB)[1] v. Rafael Nadal (ESP)[3]
David Ferrer (ESP)[4] v. Jo-Wilfried Tsonga (FRA)[6]

BET AT HOME ODDS
Novak Djokovic 2.20 v Rafael Nadal 1.55
David Ferrer 1.65 v Jo-Wilfried Tsonga 2.00

WEATHER.COM PARIS FORECAST
Sunny, high of 79F.

U.S. TELEVISION
Tennis Channel at 7am with Djokovic-Nadal followed by NBC with Ferrer-Tsonga.


Also Check Out:
Who’s The Greatest Man To Have Never Won A Grand Slam?
Odo to Bodo
Nadal Bids for Six-Peat at Monte Carlo, But Draw Not Easy
Rafael Nadal Battling a Fever
Fedal Wars: Agassi Puts Nadal Ahead Of Federer On The GOAT List, Is He Right?

Don't miss any tennis action, stay connected with Tennis-X

Get Tennis-X news FREE in your inbox every day

541 Comments for French Open SFs Open Thread: Djokovic v Nadal, Tsonga v Ferrer

Giles Says:

VAM8S KING OF CLAY!!!


Tennis x hippy chic Says:

Since Rafas comeback hes been in every final,i dont know,and i can only hope he makes the final hear,but i do know he has at least made the semis of this one too,so win or lose whatever happens he has nothing to be ashamed of,give it your best shot Rafa thats all im asking of you?


Viz Says:

Let the games begin…
…and may the odds be ever in Rafa’s favour!


Alex Says:

Go Djokovic!!!


contador Says:

lol, Viz, Now that The Match is finally on, I am more nervous about this match living up to its billing an hype, than who wins, at the moment.

Ajde Nole!


Daniel Says:

Where is the crowd, several empty seats?!


Forehand Says:

Rafa is kind of finding his range. Nole is under pressure.


Forehand Says:

MC is history.
Conditions dont support Nole….LOL


Forehand Says:

Daniel,
What is your initial thoughts on their respective levels ?


Jimmy Says:

Here is where Novak has to hang tough


Daniel Says:

Novak started strong, could be 3-0, but now he is struggling with his BH, he is not able to attack due to spin. Hottest day of tourney today, 28


Daniel Says:

Nadal way more determined with his forehand as well.


Forehand Says:

“Hottest day of tourney today, 28″

Infact hottest day of the year so far in Paris.


mg mg Says:

I live on East coast. Is there any live streaming? Sportlemon doesn’t seem to be working. thanks much,


Forehand Says:

Ball is bouncing higher and Nole is not able to control his BH.


Daniel Says:

Djokovic has to survive his game to get his foot on the BH. Second game that went to deuce in his serve


Daniel Says:

2 BH DTL misses this game alone, BP Nadal


Forehand Says:

Vamos !!!!
No.8 is getting closer !!!!

Rafa is clearly the better player so far.


Daniel Says:

If they hold serve I want to see how Nadal reacts when he is down 4-5 or 5-6, usually when he has being broken before against Djokovic


contador Says:

Mg Mg I have sportlemon links just fine. Sometimes the link will go off and have refresh for awhile while I think viewers are getting on – there are plenty of links for tennis up, though – but I stream in French and pick links further down the list.

lol, I am streaming 2 sportlemon links at the same time for Nole-Rafa and cycling,,,


Forehand Says:

Bounce….Bounce…..Bounce !!!!


gannu Says:

good ..so as usual rafa gets lucky…he gets a good weather…wonder why weather GODs love him so much???


Daniel Says:

S….t, didn’t saw that Nadal broke, my stream stop for a while. Djoko starts missing too much.. First set was key for him.


Forehand Says:

Go Rafa !!!
I want a 6-3 first set.


Daniel Says:

Nadal looking phenomenally good right now, everything is working his way now. Let’s see if Djoko can force Nadal to serve it out


Viz Says:

Conditions definitely favouring Rafa here. I’m expecting Nole to find something extra at any moment though.


Daniel Says:

Nadal is returning really good the wide serve, with angle denying Djoko control of the point. Saw he hit a few of those after excellent serves by Djoko


Giles Says:

Joker has called for trainer? More bloody antics. Bloody cheat!!!


Forehand Says:

3 errors from Rafa hands a hold to Nole.


mg mg Says:

Thank you Contador.


Forehand Says:

Thats the way to do it. Make him run side to side.


Forehand Says:

Nole is not able to handle Rafa’s slice also.


Forehand Says:

Wow !!


Daniel Says:

Nadal as lucky now,his shot just passed the net


Forehand Says:

VAM8S !!!


Daniel Says:

Djoko had 2 oportunities which Nadal returned with interest


James Says:

Nadal takes the 1st set 6-4. The man with the game plan to beat Rafa is 1 set down.


contador Says:

no prob. Mg

Okay time for Nole to find a better level –

Meanwhile, the views are fantastic from the back of this motorbike on the descent to Gap! Allez!

Allez Nole!


contador Says:

Wow what a shot from Rafa


Daniel Says:

First set and DJoko’s dream gone. This game Djoko went for it hitting 2 shots in Nadal’s feet, one of them Nadal even lost his balance, could have easily be 15-40. At least he starts serving second set where he has to play as the set of his life. If he loses this set under this sunny conditions Nadal wins in 3.
Djoko is going for a little too much, he missed a few attacking shots close to the lines, maybe he should keep the ball in play longer and choose the right time to pull the trigger. Of course this may be a response to Nadal’s FH which he is hitting as hard as he can all the time


James Says:

By the way, 1st set stats for winners: Rafa 13, Djoko 9.


contador Says:

^^ too early to tell yet – things can change! I say, optimistically


contador Says:

Definitely Nole needs some help about now.


contador Says:

Double Fault from Rafa is my wish but he Never DF’s!


contador Says:

Okay, hold serve! Novak. aarrrgh…

I won’t give up until the bitter end but…not liking this atm


Viz Says:

Contador, I would check out that view but the tennis is enough of a white-knuckle ride for me


Ben Pronin Says:

Does anyone have a good link for streaming?


contador Says:

Where are you Kimmi??


Forehand Says:

Everyone predicted that Rafa will not be able handle Nole BH.
But it turns out that Nole is not able to handle Rafa’s FH.


contador Says:

Yes I do, Ben. But I can’t post it right now

go to sportlemon.com!! and start backing Nole, he needs some help …


Ben Pronin Says:

I can’t find anything good on sportlemon. This is driving me nuts.


contador Says:

ole ole ole Nole he held serve. come on…we need this set, ajde!


Forehand Says:

Rafa is toying with Nole BH just like he normally does with Federer.


queen Says:

Vamos King! Beat the hell out of this Serb!!!


Forehand Says:

Go Rafa….its time to break.


contador Says:

I would not go that far , Forehand :D

But there does seem to be an advantage, Rafa…


Ash Says:

Live streaming can be found here.
http://www.livescorehunter.com


Jimmy Says:

Nadal looks good but where is Novak?


James Says:

Nole hangs on but Rafa seems to be in control of the match so far. Good going, Rafael! Time to shut the doubters up!


contador Says:

Ajde. please, let this match go on and on…Nole is biffing into the net a lot more than makes me hope


Forehand Says:

Nole is TOTALLY rattled….ROTFL


contador Says:

there is the break from Rafa


Viz Says:

Wow. Rafa, being super aggressive, gets the break. Vamos!


Daniel Says:

2 nets crods by Djokovic after 2 excellent serves he didn’t want to return. Nadal’s return is amazing today


James Says:

Rafa toyed with Nole’s BH in that game and gets the break! Nole needs to counter Rafa’s topspin to his BH soon or it’s goodbye FO


Forehand Says:

“Nadal looks good but where is Novak?”

Nole will not appear when the ball bounces like this. Last year he was extremely lucky with the weather and got one full set. Today no luck and three simple sets for Rafa.


Daniel Says:

Djoko lost game 30-0 playing with first serve. Nadal is confidant not giving anything to Djoko who is struggling to find his form.
Nadal is totally on top, in any department


contador Says:

Well…….Allez tommy Voekler and Eurocar! get the sprint finish.

Rafa fans have to be happy thus far.


jane Says:

Well, an advanced congrats to the nice Rafa fans here.

This is a “damp squib” for me personally. Rafa is playing very well, but Nole is not, just way too many errors. 22 errors to 14 winners is horrid. The court change (after faster Lenglen) and weather might have something to do with it, and of course Rafa! But it is what it is. Nole’s level is not his best.

So anyhow, maybe another year for Nole. :/

This court was made for Rafa; or he was made for it.


contador Says:

Happy Birthday to ColinO8!


contador Says:

jane, the fat lady has not started her song yet! aaajjjde!

Rafa has to get 3 sets ; ) I am still holding out hope but ye, the sun seems shinning on Rafa, indeed.


Daniel Says:

Djoko breaks back!


contador Says:

http://www.sportcategory.com/c-4.html

do pick the top link, it is a dud. but ^^ is to live stream

Crowd just starting to make noise – they want Nole to Allez!


Viz Says:

The sun just went in a little bit, lol.


James Says:

Jane, Nole gets the break back. I’d watched both the quarter final matches and posted here that Rafa was the more impressive player of the two based on their last performances. Not many seemed to agree with me at the time.
And now we see that Rafa actually is playing better. So far Nole hangs but Nadal still in control.


contador Says:

Meant — the ^^ top sport lemon link is usually garbage.

AJDEEEE


contador Says:

Commentators on RRG think the wind is bothering Nole.


James Says:

Nole is returning well now.


Forehand Says:

bounce
bounce
bounce


Forehand Says:

Rafa’s serve is off.


James Says:

contador, I’d say it was his footwork that let him down in the first set. He wasn’t as good as we know he can.
Rafa DFs and Nole gets another BP


contador Says:

But..but…signs of life from Nole squashed by Rafa…

or, deuce on Rafa’s serve …we need a break. Maybe Nole is starting to figure it out but oui, never say never, Rafa DF

Break chance….the french are making thier way just in time to cheer Nole?

BREAK by SERB!! ajdeeee noleeeee


James Says:

and gets it. Rafa going back to playing a bit too defensive. Gotta start playing more aggressive again.
Nole to serve for 2nd set


Daniel Says:

Love when Djokovic wins the point screaming everything when he hits a winner, kind of: enough already!!! Serving for second set


contador Says:

Too excited to bother spelling

hold, hold Nole.


contador Says:

What is going on?? the tennis is good suddenly but…nervous times for Nole fans..

We need a set…please


contador Says:

This is gooood ! nice shot ajde nole

set point…


contador Says:

yay,… one set for NO1e!


James Says:

Nole takes the 2nd set 6-3. Too many UEs from Rafa in the set. Nole looking his usual self again. Game on!


Ben Pronin Says:

This is killing me. I still can’t watch it.


Forehand Says:

Lets see if Rafa can get his game back.


Forehand Says:

game=bounce


Ash Says:

Where are the Rafa fans now ? :P


Daniel Says:

4-0 Djokovic last 4 games after Nadal break him in second set.
Let’s see if Djoko can keep the momentum going beginning of third set. Third set seems to be vital, as this looks to be another long match.


Giles Says:

Vamos King!!


Forehand Says:

This is not really a looong match yet for their standards.
Two easy sets for them….there is no real battle yet.


James Says:

Ash, Rafa fan here, mate!


Sirius Says:

Ben, feel for me. I’m missing the whole tournament. The place where I’m now has no tv, no pc


Viz Says:

Still here Ash, we’re not going anywhere. In for the long haul. Rafa has to get his aggression back, now.


James Says:

Sirius, you serious, mate? Where in the world are you? :D


Viz Says:

Good hold.


James Says:

Nole the more aggressive player now. Rafa needs to playing more attacking game again. Made Nole uncomfortable that way. C’mon Rafa! Vamos!


van orten Says:

AS much AS i have seen…it is all about djoker keeping the pressure up…he has more power


Ben Pronin Says:

Forehand, that’s probably for the best. Should this end up 5 sets, one of them will still need energy to win the final.


Daniel Says:

Their matches is a battle of who can impose their games the longer. Nadal was able to for a set and a half, Than Djoko, now was a good hold by Nadal who was leading 40-15 and than let it go to deuce and if Djoko didn’t hit long could have faced another BP. Now let’s see how Djoko will open this set after dominating for 5 games.


Sirius Says:

James, trust me I’m serious. Its the first time in 6 years I’ve missed a grand slam completely


James Says:

So far whoever is playing more aggressive also making more UEs. Gotta get that right.


Ash Says:

Nice!! It’s just good banter!! I thought Novak would find it difficult to get a set from Rafa on a Hot Sunny in red clay. I am surprised how well he could play, even though Rafa was firing from his forehand.


James Says:

Rafa gets a BP. Vamos!


James Says:

Nadal gets the break, but wrong decision from the chair umpire. It was in, not out.


Ben Pronin Says:

Get shot spot on Chatrier pronto!!!


Forehand Says:

Both are not playing well at the moment.
Probably wind is playing havoc.


Daniel Says:

S..t, Djoko’s robbed now. Worst could have happen, a winner that turns to be a break.


contador Says:

@ Ben

Turn on Roland Garros Radio – they are really good calling the match but….does the sportlemon link not work?

I see someone posted a haha sport link above too ^^


Viz Says:

That was a rough call for Nole. Hope it’s not going to be decisive.


James Says:

Ash, Rafa wasn’t able to sustain the kind of aggression he showed in the first set. That’s the difference between Rafa of old and the Rafa of now.


Daniel Says:

All Nadal’s fault who can give an opponent credit for a winner


Jimmy Says:

The umpire wasn’t sure but since Rafa said it was out …


Ash Says:

Novak used all his mental energy towards the end of 2nd set. Rafa is making him pay for that lack of intensity from Novak.


van orten Says:

What a cheater Nadal…incredible…


James Says:

I’m a Rafa fan but don’t like that wrong call from the chair umpire. It’s a kind of match where a little window of opportunity for Nadal could be fatal for Nole. Not good. Nole needs to get back in the game or the set is lost. I expect Rafa to play better with more confidence now.


Jimmy Says:

Lots of ebbs and flows in 5 set matches


contador Says:

RRG commentators speculating that Nole this is really not Novak’s day….that is premature!! lol

Ajde! this match will at least be won in 4 sets …c’mon 5 setter!


Ash Says:

James, I just don’t think it was Rafa playing that poorly, but rather Novak returning so well. Rafa’s 2nd set stats isn’t too shabby (8 winners and just 8 UE). Let’s be honest, It’s difficult to maintain the level Rafa played in the 1st set throughout the match.


James Says:

and yes Rafa’s attacking more now and getting it right. And whats that!!??? A DF from Nole.


Ben Pronin Says:

Of course the radio doesn’t work for me. Forget Novak, this just isn’t my day :P

I’m following the live chat on tennis.com

Sounds like Novak is falling apart.


Jimmy Says:

Feeble effort by Djokovic


Daniel Says:

Djoko was still looking at that mark now that he was on this side of the court. He better take it out of his mind because this set is gone.


contador Says:

Ye Nole is playing poorly atm, He needs a time out to get it sorted :D


van orten Says:

Really cemented my opinion i always had towards Nadal..wowwwww what sore loser


Forehand Says:

Both are playing below their standards.
May be getting tired.


Ty Says:

Novak is moving around like he’s been out there for four hours. What’s goin on? I thought he was king fitness now.

Come on, I skipped work to watch this match at least make it exciting.


Ben Pronin Says:

I hope Djokovic lets this set go and just tries to win 4 and 5. If he tries to come back in this one he’ll probably expand a ton of energy and lose a close one anyway, and then run out of steam later on.


the DA Says:

How does a wrong decision by an umpire make a player a cheat? tsk

There was an awkward twist by Nole in the first set where he clutched his hamstring area. He seems to be physically struggling a little.


Ash Says:

Hey Ben,
Watch live streaming here. livescorehunter.com


James Says:

Ash, not taking anything away from Nole. After all he’s the best in the world right now. But he didn’t look comfortable ’till Rafa began playing more defensively. And I knew Nole would punish him for that. I was telling a friend that before Nole took the set.
Anyway, good play so far. Can get better tho. Nadal 5-0 in 3rd set so far.


Forehand Says:

van orten Says:
Really cemented my opinion i always had towards Nadal..wowwwww what sore loser

LOL…today you have to call him a sore WINNER


Ty Says:

@the DA

a bit???? He’s playing like he only has one leg.


van orten Says:

Always the same..why on earth a player that caliber needs to do that…? Simply dissapointing


contador Says:

Yes This set is prolly a wash-out set; but then WE, Nole ajde need another set! come on, then rinse and repeat ajde!


Ash Says:

It’s not looking good for Novak. His game is totally off. Not the usual Novak we all used to seeing. There is no fight, and no intensity at all.


Daniel Says:

the DA< beacuse nobody called out, and Nadla saw a close marl and tried to have his way, influencing umpire decision. THe ball was too close to call, by what the mark goes and on doubt call in, that's how it is. If he had just conceived the winner in the first place.


Forehand Says:

Nole seems to want a BAGEL.


Ash Says:

Against Rafa, any lack of intensity, you are going to pay for that since Rafa plays with such focus throughout the match. Kudos to him for that.


Ty Says:

That man in the stands got it right. He had a big ol’ yawn going while djoko was about to serve 15-30, 0-5


James Says:

First bagel in Rafa-Nole rivalry?


van orten Says:

It makes him a cheat by not accepting the winner..


contador Says:

Might as well – no shame in getting a big bagel sometimes , as long as we get 5 sets, ole, ole nole but there is not much to cheer about atm.


Daniel Says:

I think this could be the fisr 6-0 set on their meetings


James Says:

Daniel, I believe the umpire has the last say. Thanks


James Says:

No bagel in Nadal-Djoko rivalry yet. Nole takes the game.


Forehand Says:

Crappy game from Rafa to miss a bagel.


Daniel Says:

No:)
At least Djoko starts serving 4 set and can get a MTO


James Says:

and what was Nadal thinking? Could have gone for 6-0 as Nole wasn’t playing well at all. Didn’t look like he wanted it bad.


contador Says:

Nic Lester saying that “Nadal hardly ever practices his backhand any more , it is all about practicing his serve and forehand …” for Rafa.

fighting off the bad feeling.


contador Says:

oh no….too many balls into the net, Novak….ouch.


contador Says:

Nadal penalized on set point for a time violation


Forehand Says:

Poor set from both the guys….but Rafa’s level is good enough to take him through this set.


contador Says:

Set 3 to Rafa


van orten Says:

U rafa Fans should take of your classless pro Rafael glasses..and accept it was totally unworthy of a champion…open your eyes and See the real Rafael…unfair and obsessed..


James Says:

and WTh is with Novak now?? Seriously injured? Might as well retire then. Hope he comes back playing a hell lot better. Despite the score line, not that good match yet. Also Rafa is trying to match Nole’s crappy game atm.


Ben Pronin Says:

Nadal got a point pentalty? Pascal having a field day today.

On the bright side, at least this wasn’t a straight setter like so many foolishly predicted. On the really down side, none of the sets are close. On the abysmal side, I still can’t watch.


contador Says:

oh what were those words Rafa had with the ump? need to see that again lol


Forehand Says:

Wow….kind of banana shot from Nole.


contador Says:

si, a point penalty on set point but that only served to bring Madal out. Rafa performs well when *****d off


James Says:

Nole holds his serve comfortably, but still not exciting game from both players. C’mon you two!! Entertain the paris crowd!


Ash Says:

Forehand, are you for real suggesting that Nadal played a poor set ? Nadal’s 3rd set statistics looks really good. 9 winners and 3 UE, and his intensity was also right up there. Maybe Novak played an aweful set and that you are used to seeing Rafa play long rallies. It actually bodes well for Rafa’s mind and body since he didn’t have to expend that much amount of energy, and Novak imploding himself.


contador Says:

No, it is not living up to my own hype, this match.


James Says:

Please, world’s best players, please play better. Right now you two playing nearly as bad as I do.


contador Says:

Pretty sure Kimberly enjoyed that scoreline on the 3rd set.


contador Says:

I can be happy for hippy chic too.


Ben Pronin Says:

“Tennis Channel commentators saying the tournament director confirmed Pascal Maria erred. It was supposed to be a second serve for Nadal for the time violation. You’d think a chair umpire like Maria would know the rules.”

Hahaha, I guess that sorta makes up for the bad call earlier in the set. Except not really.


contador Says:

Finally a highlight reel point and Nole gets it :D


Ash Says:

I have never seen Novak resigned to the fact that the opponent in the other side of the net is a better player than him these last few years, except maybe against Roger in Wimby Semis.


Forehand Says:

A rare sight indeed.
Rafa applauding the opponent !!!!!!


Ash Says:

That was a wicked second serve


James Says:

Nole gets the break. Hopefully better play from both players from here on.


Forehand Says:

James Says:
Please, world’s best players, please play better. Right now you two playing nearly as bad as I do.

June 7th, 2013 at 9:39 am

Agree with you James.


James Says:

Oops! It wasn’t Nole getting a break but holding his serve. Sorry


contador Says:

I think it is time for me to stop watching – maybe Nole will pick up the level…but it is not the magic from Nole I was hoping to see.


Ty Says:

Could it be nerves for djoko?


Ty Says:

He just whiffed a return forehand.


James Says:

Forehand, both players appear more nervous than their fans!


Forehand Says:

“Nole gets the break.”

When did that happen ???


Ben Pronin Says:

James, too cruel, too cruel.


contador Says:

Listening to the match is good enough at this point.

Nic Lester saying Nole looks “worn out”


James Says:

@Ben, haha feeling for the crowd watching them, mate. They’re playing slightly better now.


Daniel Says:

Djoko has to still another set, or at least holds long enough to force some doubst into Nadal’s head, because apart from a few games, Nadal is the better player today.


James Says:

Forehand, mistake. Btw, Leonardo DiCaprio looks bored! :P


Ash Says:

Lack of intensity from both the players. Don’t think Novak can pull off this set.


contador Says:

hahaha…they are playing better and I am certain it is because I gave up watching!! knew it


Daniel Says:

That was a good hold by Djoko. Gives him cal to make an assault in Nadal’s next game. The end of this set will be tense, let’s see who holds nerves best.


Ben Pronin Says:

Is this clay? Or grass? Seriously. Either they’re both cruising or one guy is cruising. Maybe after the AO match they promised each other no more tennis death battles.


contador Says:

leonardo is waiting for Jo willie’s match ; ) like me.


Ben Pronin Says:

Daniel, Nadal will hold his nerve better. Like last year’s 4th set.


Daniel Says:

Jesus, how can Nadal thse 2 shots?!


Forehand Says:

“Nic Lester saying Nole looks “worn out””

Conty,
Rafa is not far behind.


James Says:

“Maybe after the AO match they promised
each other no more tennis death battles.”

Seems like it. As a Rafa fan, I should be happy. But no, I want good tennis too, not just a win.


Daniel Says:

Damm, Nadal unleashing this game.
Now Djoko better hold, at least this set shou;d go the distance, just fro the drama


contador Says:

@Forehand… ye, there was about one or two exciting rallies and points. Not watching any more but missing Gulbis right now :D


Forehand Says:

Oops this is getting over too fast.

I want Nole to break back.

Sorry Rafa fans….I am going to root for Nole.


contador Says:

Nadal has the break I hear


James Says:

Rafa gets a BP.
I knew Novak wasn’t looking that sharp against Haas but I expected him to bring in his A game vs Nadal like he always does, or did in the past. Doesn’t seem like it right now. Rafa hasn’t been that good either today.
Gets the break.


Forehand Says:

“As a Rafa fan, I should be happy. But no, I want good tennis too, not just a win.”

Same here James.

Go Nole !!!!


Daniel Says:

Well, under the sun in RG Nadal is truly unbeatable:)


Forehand Says:

Common Nole…where is your return ????


contador Says:

no, no,,, have to wait another year for hope – disappointed hope is my friend as usual sitting right here next to me alongside boredom and bone idle ****** plus a damp squib


Viz Says:

While I’d like to see a bit more drama here, I think I’d rather they leave the death battle for Wimbledon


James Says:

Forehand, don’t blame you all at all. Rafa’s not playing that good but it’s good enough to beat this Nole so far. Expected much from this. Jo’s match with Daveed would be so much better lol


Thomas Says:

Congratulations on winning your 8th French Open Rafa. Well deserved…


van orten Says:

Disgrace for tennis…


Forehand Says:

Wow…thats the way to do it Nole.


Ty Says:

Djokovic… stop apologizing, no?


contador Says:

I know the death battles are not wise or healthy = guilty feeling wishing for one…


Daniel Says:

Wow, didn’t saw that coming! Will this be a repeat of second set, where Nadal break first, Djoko broke back and went on a tier?!


James Says:

Nole breaks back. Maybe they’ve decided to provide some entertainment for the crowd now.


Forehand Says:

Wow…Nole moonballing and Rafa missing.
Crap match !!


Daniel Says:

Nadal playing defensive right now, it affect him, Djoo better take this opportunity


Daniel Says:

2 missed second serves returns by Nadal, this is it for Djoko! He has to get this set


Forehand Says:

For the first in this match, Rafa is serving 4-5 under pressure.
Lets see how he responds.


Ty Says:

bring on Tsonga!!


the DA Says:

Such a bizarre match.


Forehand Says:

Crap fest


Ty Says:

Finish him!


James Says:

Last two games been good. Nadal breaks and will now serve for the match, 6-5.


Forehand Says:

Oh no !!!
Go Nole…break back !!!


James Says:

I’d predicted a 4 set win for Rafa. Here it is? Vamos Rafa!


the DA Says:

After getting the break through some spectacular defense, Rafa to serve for the match.


Daniel Says:

Can’t believe Djoko lost this game after having 2 game points prior to BP, he was hitting too long deep. Thought he would be able to take the set 7-5. Now let’s see how Nadal reacts serving for the match.


Daniel Says:

Djokp not able to attack defensive baloons


gonzalowski Says:

A game for the 20-15 h2h


Daniel Says:

Nadal 2 points away from 8th final (title)


Daniel Says:

What a return. This is Djoko’s main weapon. He will always have his return to save him


the DA Says:

hehe…Nole breaks back. There’s something about that end of the court that makes it hard to hold serve.


James Says:

wow!! Nadal fails to serve out again!


Daniel Says:

Tiebreakkkkk!!!
See, Djoko is not the only one having problems closing matches, even Nadal on RG couldn’t serve a match. Of course he will have another shot at this dramabreak


Forehand Says:

The real battle begins now !!!


Ben Pronin Says:

Following live chat on tennis.com. Hilarious exchange right here:

“Ed..just from an objective analysis.. the way both are playing now.. who do you think will have edge for the rest of the season? Novak/Rafa?”

McGrogan: “I can’t even figure out who will have the edge this breaker.”


Forehand Says:

They are in for a BIG battle now.
I guess Nole would take this set


Daniel Says:

4-1 Djoko!!


tennisfansince76 Says:

how i’d like to be watching this TB on tv instead of on the internet


the DA Says:

Even if Nole takes this 4th set, he’ll have to start from the other end – the one which has caused both of them problems.


tennisfansince76 Says:

TV that is


James Says:

Real test for Nadal now. Should look to take this and close the match.


tennisfansince76 Says:

wow the time between pts when these 2 play seems extra long when you are staring at numbers on a screen


Ben Pronin Says:

TF76, how I’d like to be watching this match at all. I’d even settle for just listening to it.


Daniel Says:

Too much Djoko, Now you better hold your 2 serves


Daniel Says:

5-3 Djoko, painting the lines. 2 more points to force a 5th


Ty Says:

Unbelievable.


Daniel Says:

YEah, smash 6-3 Djoko 3 set points to force a 5th, he will indeed still another set and on a fifth, anything can happen


Ty Says:

Crushed that forehand.


Forehand Says:

Wow…5th set.
This is what we wanted.


RZ Says:

Wow, what an amazing point by Djokovic to clench the 4th set! Pretty gutsy going straight for Rafa, when Rafa had the whole court open.


Daniel Says:

He did it!
5th set, Djoko with all momentum now. Will Nadal start having old demons, especially as he served the match out 6-5 or will he be able to return to his aggressive mode?!
So far Sean is right, Nadal in 5


Kimmi Says:

hmmmm


James Says:

on to 5th set. Nadal messed up failing to serve out the match. It’s turning into a good match now. Vamos Rafa!!


tennisfansince76 Says:

wow Noodle taken to a 5th set on his beloved dirt patch. well off to work i go.


Viz Says:

OK, maybe I didn’t want this much drama. Good comeback from Nole though.


Daniel Says:

2nd man to bring Nadal to a fifht in RG, after Isner.
Did Nadal ever lost on fifth set on clay in his life?!


Ben Pronin Says:

UN

FREAKING

REAL.


Forehand Says:

Rafa seems to be down.


Ben Pronin Says:

Daniel, no I don’t believe he has. Only other 5 setters on clay I can think of are Rome 05 and 06 against Coria and Federer respectively. They both finished in tiebreaks, too. No tiebreaker here, though.


Kimberly Says:

Amazing special match! I think Djoko had the advantage now. Can’t see it I am at the office just following scores. Hope Nadal can pull it out.


the DA Says:

I was wrong, Nadal starts at the tricky end.


Daniel Says:

Ben, looks like Nadal felt nerves first and is feeling now, he almost DF and then DF, now Djoko hit another excellent return and is 0-40


Daniel Says:

This is it, if Djoko doesn’t break Nadal will crush him later, he better close now as Nadal level dropped


Daniel Says:

Nadla have a lucky net cord during point, he hit so weak ball almost didn’t cross.


Forehand Says:

This is battle royal !!!


the DA Says:

..and gets broken.


Daniel Says:

Djoko breaks. totally shift in momentum and Nadal didn’t regroup yet.


Daniel Says:

Djokovic is returning almost every Nadal serve pressuring him all the time, or Nadal’s serve lost pop


Ben Pronin Says:

100% Djokovic will get broken at least once before this set is over. Maybe even twice (that way Nadal has a chance to screw up again, probably after Djokovic screws up, hahahaha). I’m going a little crazy.


Viz Says:

Nerves – yes. That failure to close it out in the 4th has got to be weighing on Rafa.


Forehand Says:

Will this 5th set be another crap fest ??


Daniel Says:

Can’t believe, that’s why I hate this baloon balls, BP Nadal


Forehand Says:

Bring on Tsonga please.


Daniel Says:

Amazing. Don;t know what you guys are complaining about? Is not all five set matches that is going to be like AO 2005. Every 5th set has momentum shifts. They are playing some amazing points and very few mistakes by bth player, mostly we=hen trying to attack.


Forehand Says:

Whenever Rafa goes inside out with his forehand, he looks invincible. Why is he not going for it more ?


Alex Says:

Giles where are you? Pathetic fan, wont support your man, I guess you will come out your cave if Nadal wins, will you disappear forever if he loses?

Rafanaticswillbegone!


Daniel Says:

Great hold by Nadal to calm himself and try to get the break back.

Djoko leading 2-1 and serve!


Forehand Says:

No gas left with Rafa.


Forehand Says:

Fed taards can come out now. Rafa is losing.


Ty Says:

This one is tough to call.


Forehand Says:

Rafa is done.


Giles Says:

Alex you idiot I will support my man whatever it takes. Moorroonn!!


Humble Rafa Says:

Couldn’t close it out. I feel like cr*p.


Ty Says:

I can’t believe that Nadal won’t make a run at some point. This isn’t over.


Ben Pronin Says:

Honestly, I’m not sure Djokovic will be able to close this match out even if he manages to hold until 5-4.


James Says:

oh dear! Not looking good for my boy Nadal. Gotta hold serve and return better.


Ben Pronin Says:

Ty, agreed. Rafa definitely has at LEAST one more push in him, if not more as might be required.

Giles, Alex, seriously? We’re trying to enjoy an epic match (by whatever means). Relax with the name calling. Shhh, great tennis is being played.


Humble Rafa Says:

Though I choked, I have to admit the Egg Lover is playing better than me.

#givingcreditwherecreditisdue#
#humble#


RZ Says:

Ben, I agree. I was about to post something like “If Rafa loses this game, it’s over for him” but remembered that you can never, ever count either of these guys out until the last point is played.


Forehand Says:

Crap !!!


Daniel Says:

deuce, if Djoko breaks here he can seal the deal, he looks like he wants this game


S Green Says:

While we are witnessing possibly something of herculean will bending today, if not ending, or a fleeting spectacle of a something imminently eminent, while some of us would like to see a seed of new beginning being sowed today, at least a baby, yet mighty step toward that horizon.
Hello to all T-X friends and foes.


Alex Says:

What Giles?

You are the idiot cause thats only your first post since the match started.

@Forhand

Hahah your best little Rafanatics are to scared to come out, lmao. You will be gone to, one Rafa loses. Good riddance!


nadalista Says:

Rafa’s gonna lose this but proud he’s going down fighting……………


Forehand Says:

More Crap !!!


Ben Pronin Says:

I smell a break coming up.


Viz Says:

Well, he got the hold but overall he’s just not dealing with the pressure as well as Nole at the moment. C’mon Rafa! Get your mojo back!


Ty Says:

Man… if I could just hit ONE forehand like that in my life I could die happ(ier)


Ben Pronin Says:

I was resigned to Djokovic’s defeat when Nadal, the King of Clay, was serving 6-5 in the 4th. If Djokovic can come back from that, then surely Nadal can come back from an early break in the 5th. Maybe he won’t, but it was way too early for anyone to resign to defeat or to celebrate a victory.


Humble Rafa Says:

Hahah your best little Rafanatics are to scared to come out, lmao. You will be gone to, one Rafa loses. Good riddance!

Rafa Nation has upright citizens. If I lose, they will admit that the other guy played better.


Daniel Says:

This is the game!


Ty Says:

Never thought I would be cheering for Rafa… but he’s a fighter, you almost have to after a certain point.


Nirmal Kumar Says:

This is looking like Winners exhibition by Nadal. Amazing winners from both BH and FH side.

Hope he breaks and extends the match. The level might of the match might pickup soon.


S Green Says:

This match has lots of drama in its tank. It’s far from over, though we’d like to imagine otherwise.


Ty Says:

drama drama drama drama drama chameleon.


Daniel Says:

Nadal pointing at Djoko when he saw Djoko hit the net was priceless. He lost the point, the guy can’t conceed that he lost a point


Ty Says:

things are revving up.


Daniel Says:

S….t. Nadal wins a game just retrieving, Djoko’s fault who wouldn’t come to the net sooner.


RZ Says:

If Djoker wants to win this, he needs to calm down a bit…


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Looks like Rafa has the momentum at the closing stages of the match.


James Says:

rafa takes the break!!! 4-4! Vamos Rafa!


Ty Says:

What an intriguing narrative this match has proved to be.


Humble Rafa Says:

Feel a little better. But long way to go for HH.


James Says:

Ben, your smelling power is good.


Ben Pronin Says:

Bam! Rafa breaks back. Obviously.


Daniel Says:

Now Djoko deserves this match for al this s..t gamesmanship


Thomas Says:

what was the gamesmanship?


Ty Says:

@Daniel… what match are you watching?


RZ Says:

Nadal’s forehand down the line is what’s putting him ahead.


Ben Pronin Says:

I don’t like this anymore. Djokovic will double at least once in this game.


Daniel Says:

Now the pressure will be all on Djoko. he should have got that insurance break when he was up 3-1 deuce, now he will serve to stay alive and will have to serve to close if he manages to break. Nadal will always have the break to win which is perfect for him.
Suddenly Nadal match to lose again, after Djoko dominating 5th set.


JF Says:

lET’S Go Nadal!


Daniel Says:

Nadal 2 points again


Ty Says:

Damn this is tough… I feel like both guys deserve it equally. Nadal for failing to serve for it twice, and breaking back in the fifth; Djokovic for breaking back TWICE in the fourth to extend the match.


Daniel Says:

Djoko survives first test. Now break and serve!


JF Says:

Nadal was up 2 breaks in the 4th?


James Says:

Time to break and win the match. Vamos!


Ty Says:

Oops, broke back in the second set, and the fourth… not twice in the fourth.


Humble Rafa Says:

I need to get my own oxygen chamber.


Nirmal Kumar Says:

I can’t see Nadal losing this match now with the kind of momentum he is playing with.


Humble Rafa Says:

I see this as the greatest match ever..remember that?


Ty Says:

Federer has got to be kicking himself now.


JF Says:

I’m at work looking at flashsore.com.. so frustrating lol. It seems Nadal is serving better again.


mat4 Says:

What a terrible dogfight!


Viz Says:

I hope you’re right, Nirmal, but I can’t see much between them at the moment


James Says:

Nadal holds serve to make it 7-6. Pressure on Djoko to hold his


contador Says:

who won?


Daniel Says:

UnFuc;98765believable


Viz Says:

Lol, Rafa wins the point with Roger’s trademark shot!


contador Says:

is the thing still going?


RZ Says:

LOL, I don’t think Novak has ever won a point when his opponent has hit a ‘tweener. Playbook to beat Djokovic: hit nothing but ‘tweeners!


Daniel Says:

But Djokovic went 40-0 his last 2 service games, he is holding easy and he always have the return to bother Nadal


RZ Says:

Contador – 7-7 in the 5th…


contador Says:

hahahha


Ty Says:

Damn my stream just took a dump at 7-7 in the fifth…


Thomas Says:

Its 7-7 in the 5th set.


contador Says:

they should both have to play and play and play for being so sucking in the first sets.


James Says:

this is turning into a really good match.


contador Says:

hope Ernie G was watching this and kicking himself for not practicing more and being such a bone idle *****r . if any one fits that description it is Gulbis but…seriously Andy Murray has to give this a look see


Daniel Says:

This is it. Can;’t beleive Djoko will lose thus match after another stunning come back


James Says:

Nadal takes it!!


Daniel Says:

Damm…the dream is over


contador Says:

Federer must be loving it! hehhehe…Tsonga too. And Daveed, heads up Ferru…


Alex Says:

Looks like Rafanatics will be around for another year! lol.


budum Says:

NADAL IS THE ABSOLUTE KING!! THIS GUY IS MY HERO!!!


Ty Says:

Damn stream quit… what happened?


nadalista Says:

@Alex did you say something? Was that you whispering?


RZ Says:

Wowza. A shame to see it end on a few errors by Novak. Next year, Nole. Great job by Nadal to stay cool and keep plugging away. His forehand down the line was on in that 5th set!

Okay Tsonga, bring it home for the French!


Humble Rafa Says:

Not in my House!

Humble Champion.

Well played Egg Lover.


Ty Says:

That dude is unbeatable. It would so very comfortable to be one of his fans around this time of year.


the DA Says:

Congrats Brando! Commiserations Jane. He’s getting so much closer. Next year for sure methinks.


Viz Says:

Well done Rafa. Well played Nole.


Giles Says:

V A M 8 S M Y K I N G!!
Just incredible Rafa. Onto the finals!
You are very special!!


Viz Says:

Love Rafa’s Franglais!


RZ Says:

Ty, 9-7 Rafa. Novak hit 2 balls long to lost that game.


Humble Rafa Says:

8 of 10…more to come.


Viz Says:

Now I can watch Tsonga-Ferrer with calm.


WTF Says:

OMG.

Well, I was wrong. Novak will not be winning 4 slams this year, only 3.

I will gladly wipe the egg off my face now.

That was pretty much it, the defacto final. I missed it, but apparently a very thrilling match.


nadalista Says:

Rafa still looks fresh………


Kimberly Says:

Thank you to both players for what they have just given to the world. Not only are they amazing tennis players, but they are two warriors, a credit to the sport.


WTF Says:

BTW, is this the first time Rafa has been extended to 5 sets at the French?


Giles Says:

@nadalista. So far you are half right. All Spanish final!!


Humble Rafa Says:

58-1


JF Says:

Hats off to Djoko..excellent player. I’m just relieved my boy won !! It only further cements his status as king of clay and overall absolute great beating such as a great player in Djoko.


Jimmy Says:

The better player, today, deservedly won the match.


Giles Says:

WTF. 2011 against Isner 5 sets


JF Says:

No, I believe Isner extended to 5 as well.


Viz Says:

WTF, I think he once got taken to a 5th by Isner


nadalista Says:

Thank you @Giles, now let’s see if Ferru can obey my instructions!


mg mg Says:

What a match for the fans !!! I hope you guys all enjoy it. Great play from both players.


Giles Says:

Still can’t believe it. I need a stiff drink!!


Tennis Vagabond Says:

What a match. I came in with a slight rooting interest for Novak, but was happy Rafa won. He seemed fresher and more determined in the fifth, and made some jaw dropping shots from terrible position- shots that dropped Novak’s jaw too.
Novak was great of course, but he did look exceptionally stiff in the fifth. And he IS Gumby.
Great interview from Rafa, nice that he’s learned some French and had the guts to try it. For a shy guy that must have been more pressure than serving for match.
This is such a huge moment in Rafa’s career.
Now, is Rafa the next number one?
Will Wimbledon answer that? Will NOvak maintain control of two/three surfaces versus Rafa’s clay kingdom?


contador Says:

No. both of them need to be taken to the woodshed ( grendel’s expression) for being so tentative and weak knee’d in the first 3 -4 sets. Drama queens. I think they should have to play next years’ FO final on top of Mt Blanc on bicycles.


Giles Says:

Was too nervous to watch the match. Now I shall enjoy the replay.


Jimmy Says:

Novak’s backhand really let him down


Brando Says:

Novak and his fans: BIG RESPECT. I can understand the hurt- this is AO 12′ like as Rafa said oncourt, so his fans know how you feel. Novak fought like a beast and he’ll have his chances in the future. Keep your head up!


nadalista Says:

This is the Spanish half I had doubts about but Rafa showed today Novak is not camped in his head. Now the shoe is on the other foot. Let’s see how Djokovic recovers from this………….

This was a mental battle, nothing else and Djokovic couldn’t get off his stool in the 9th game, he checked out mentally…….

Rafa’s forehand has got to be the most fearsome shot in the game………..

Now Ferru………….


Brando Says:

VAMOS RAFA! He fought like a lion today. Cannot process my thoughts just sheer joy!:-)


batlord Says:

Are you telling me NO ONE is going to say anything about Uncle Tony coaching Rafa almost the ENTIRE MATCH???


Brando Says:

Agree Nadalista: Novak is not in Rafa’s head at all. He’s toughest matchup. That’s it.


Jimmy Says:

In the end the weather didn’t matter, but instead the inability of Novak to end points when he had the advantage, amazing defense for almost 5 hours by Rafa.


Forehand Says:

Brando Says:
Novak and his fans: BIG RESPECT.

+1

What a great champion Nole is….

Hope someone like soderling takes out Rafa and Nole lucks out an FO like Federer.

Nole deserves an FO…..SALUTE.


Okiegal Says:

What in the world could Uncle Tony tell Rafa regarding his match play that Rafa doesn’t already know???? As a former athlete I knew what I was doing wrong in the bad moments and I am confident Rafa does too. Can’t the family even show any type of support!!

Vamos, and BOOM BABY, you won!! Good luck tomorrow, win or lose the match today was maaavelous!!!


jane Says:

I still love Nole! :) What a fight back. Am totally and utterly gutted but proud of him. Ajde Nole!

Congrats to Rafa – and to you especially Kimberly, and happy birthday to Colin.

Now Allez Jo!


Kimberly Says:

I can’t believe its over. I thought it would never end.


Okiegal Says:

What’s the bets on this one, all you tennis gurus out there??? I haven’t heard anything regarding the gamblers.


Okiegal Says:

Nothing against Tsonga, but cmon Daveeed!!


batlord Says:

Coaching is illegal during a match. If Tony is coaching, it is illegal. Were you a professional athlete? More specifically, a professional tennis player? Regardless, in the heat of the game, you get flustered, and Uncle Tony shouting something at you could make a point difference in a game, which could lead to the match.


Kimberly Says:

Jane, thank you. Today is Colin’s actual birthday. He dressed in Rafa’s outfit to support Rafa for this match. At least it somewhat makes up for the Miami Heat blowing game 1 of the NBA Finals.

@Jane, Mat4, Wogboy, Nina, and others, you should be proud, your boy put in a hell of a game. Should have been the final. I really thought FO should have reseeded Nadal. Could have gone either way obviously. It’s too bad Djokovic sort of lost focus donated the match in the end after 4.5 hours (not that he would have won necessarily) but it was a sort of anti-climactic ending IMO.


Brando Says:

@the DA: thanks man. It was Andyesque interms of taking a toll on ones nerves. Trust me. :-)


Brando Says:

Checking out for now but as good as the win was… It ONLY the SF. Rafa needs to step up for the final. Vamos Rafa!


nadalista Says:

Now Rafa can be relaxed, be calm, play his game….

Prepare for Sunday with “colm”……..


Brando Says:

PS: Rafa in 2013: 9 tourny’s entered, 9 finals= legendary comeback!:-)


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Love the way Rafa took the match away from Novak. Absolutely champions stuff. There was nothing that Novak could do. With all the talk about Rafa’s defense, I thought it was his offense which got him through at the end. It was a highlight stuff from Rafa in the 5th set after he was broken.


SG1 Says:

I was contemplating calling in sick to watch this one. I guess I should have…damn!


Humble Rafa Says:

It’s okay. I can wait for the trophy till Sunday. No offence taken


SG1 Says:

Tennis Vagabond,

Don’t forget Murray on grass. He’ll be a threat. Even Federer can threaten on grass and he’ll be the defending champion. I wouldn’t say that Wimbledon is lock for either Rafa or Novak.


gonzalowski Says:

Congratulations Rafa and Nadal-Nation! The 8th would be fantastic, but this 20-15 against such a champ like Nole is really delightful…
Congratulations to him for being a really number one, too.


contador Says:

@SG1

Actually, you did not miss much the 1st 4 sets. What to do next time is plan to watch the deciding set. I really was not great tennis for most of the match. And I love Nole but…


nadalista Says:

RT @AndrewCastle63: “9 finals from 9 tournaments for #Nadal in 2013. He is a sporting giant.”

Amen to that………


Alex Says:

lol it Feels like he just Won the FO.

Did he? :)


Alex Says:

“Congratulations to him for being a really number one, too.”

What?


Ben Pronin Says:

Today proved that Djokovic doesn’t need anyone to take Nadal out. He can do it himself. This is reminiscent of Nadal’s take over at Wimbledon. Close 4 setter vs Fed, then close 5 setter, then win. Hoping the same for Novak next year.


nadalista Says:

Ferru leads 5-0, 1st set


WTF Says:

“Will NOvak maintain control of two/three surfaces versus Rafa’s clay kingdom?”

Of course. two/three is higher than one.


roy Says:

”batlord Says:
Are you telling me NO ONE is going to say anything about Uncle Tony coaching Rafa almost the ENTIRE MATCH???”

apparently you missed novak’s coach clearly miming some type of backhand gesture to his player.
what was that, a serb war cry?

in any case it doesn’t matter. none of this ”coaching” is decisive. and actually uncle tony would only do more harm than good.


Alex Says:

@Nadalista

You kidding, how is this possible, lol.

Hahahah why don’t you go pop the Champagne Nadalista!


gonzalowski Says:

I said congratulations to a real great number one and champ like Nole is.


James Says:

Ben, I was thinking the same. Maybe Nole will take it next year. But then I wouldn’t bet against Rafa at RG. Will depend on his form next year. But Nole has a strong chance, more than any other, to take on Nadal and win FO.


youyong Says:

It is 6-1 now.

Congrats to Rafa! It was a nail-biting match and I always thought Novak would win.


WTF Says:

“Rafa showed today Novak is not camped in his head.”

On this surface, no.

“Now the shoe is on the other foot. Let’s see how Djokovic recovers from this………….”

When was the last time Rafa beat Nole on any other surface? Nole will be in his head on every other surface, because he barely won on clay, and that is by far his best surface to play on. Anything else and even his best won’t be enough.

When the King of Clay can barely beat Nole in the place he won 7 titles in, he’s going to get crushed by him when they meet outside of the safety of his best surface. There’s no other way to look at it. Clay is Rafa’s best surface, and Nole’s worst surface, and Nole was capable of winning.

If there was an overall talent meter from 0 to 10 where Nole is a 10, I would put Rafa at 6, tops. That’s the difference between the two right now, despite Nole losing on clay.


nadalista Says:

1st set Ferru 6-1


nadalista Says:

Calm down @Alex, watch the second semi, you might learn some tennis……..


Ty Says:

Tsonga shrinking.


nadalista Says:

@WTF, it really doesn’t matter. Rafa won, Novak lost, move on……….


Forehand Says:

“This is reminiscent of Nadal’s take over at Wimbledon. ”

Ben,
Certainly not that way.
Rafa took down 26yr old federer in his third attempt when he was just 22yrs old.

But Nole at 26 could not beat 27 yr old Rafa even after 5 tries.


James Says:

batlord, I’ve played some tennis, at one point dreamt of being an ATP player (played the Indian qualifier Somdev that Roger beat in 2nd round once), and didn’t see any on court coaching going on. If it did happen, trust me, they’d have noticed it.


Kimberly Says:

WTF—I disagree. I have always thought grass was Noles worst surface and I don’t think Nadal is so great. Yes, I know they both won titles but to me Murray and Federer seem like more natural grass court players. And Nole and Rafa match up well on hard too. Miami and AO were great matches. A match between these two on any surface is sure to be great. IMO the difference lies with their vulnerability v. the field.
1. Djokovic capable of upset and losing to other players more on clay.
2. Nadal capable of upset and losing to other players on more hard.


nadalista Says:

@Forehand, remember the 5 stages of grief?

Denial;
Anger;
Bargaining;
Depression; and
Acceptance.

Give them time to go through all the stages, starting with denial…….

It’s normal.


Ben Pronin Says:

It’s not identical, but it’s similar. They don’t have to be the exact same age. And really, no one thought Novak was going to beat Nadal in 06, 07, or 08. I’m not including those. Since Novak became a legitimate great player, he has played Nadal twice at Roland Garros, last year and this year. Both years, a lot of people fancied his chances. And he showed tremendous progress. Do you want an identical script or something? I said it’s reminiscent, not exactly the same.


WTF Says:

nadalista Says:

“@WTF, it really doesn’t matter. Rafa won, Novak lost, move on……….”

Believe it or not, I like Rafa. I’m not sad by this at all. I’m only stating facts.

You narrowly win on your best surface against a guy playing on his worst surface. Common sense would have it that if either of those advantages are lost, you have no chance of winning.


SG1 Says:

Didn’t expect a 6-1 set in the first from either player. What’s going on? Is Ferrer playing that well or is Tsonga…well being Tsonga in the big moment?


nadalista Says:

Tsonga woken up, hope he takes the 2nd set, I want these guys to go to 5 as well……………


Forehand Says:

“When was the last time Rafa beat Nole on any other surface? Nole will be in his head on every other surface, because he barely won on clay, and that is by far his best surface to play on. Anything else and even his best won’t be enough.

When the King of Clay can barely beat Nole in the place he won 7 titles in, he’s going to get crushed by him when they meet outside of the safety of his best surface. There’s no other way to look at it. Clay is Rafa’s best surface, and Nole’s worst surface, and Nole was capable of winning. ”

I can write similar stuff about AO2012….but sorry no time…its time to have fun.


WTF Says:

Kimberley, Nole won Wimbledon, beating Rafa. He has not won the French Open, losing to Rafa several times.

I think it’s safe to say he is better on grass than on clay. Or at the very least, Rafa is not as good on grass as he is on clay (or he would have won that Wibmledon final).

Without having a major surface advantage, I really think Rafa has no chance against Nole.


SG1 Says:

You have to think that if anyone will break Rafa’s string at RG, it will likely be Novak. He really has the type of game that can bother Rafa on any surface.

I agree with Ben. I see some parallels between the rafa-fed and novak-rafa rivalries. Though it doesn’t seem, at least right now, like Novak will ever dominate Rafa to the extreme that rafa did Federer. Rafa, given good health, is a handful for anyone.


WTF Says:

“I can write similar stuff about AO2012….but sorry no time…its time to have fun.”

Not sure what there is to say about AO2012. It was a close match, on a neutral surface. Nole has proven on hard courts he has a clear edge against Rafa. Just look at their head to head even before Nole became a top player.


nadalista Says:

@WTF, I conceded the point, you win. Frankly, am not in the mood to argue, couldn’t care less today. Have other important things to do today like watch this second semi to see who takes on Rafa in the final and then go…….PARTY!!!!!!

Thanks.


Ben Pronin Says:

SG1, I don’t think Djokovic will dominate Nadal that way. I also have no idea how the rest of their matches will play out or anything like that. But as far as their current rivalry at RG, that’s how I see it. I’m not saying it’s a fact or anything.

Man, I don’t know how you guys are watching the second semi. I just don’t have the energy to even care right now.

Whether Nadal or Djokovic had on court coaching, doesn’t matter. Like Paire said, they’ll never be called for it.


nadalista Says:

RT @scambers73: “Rare to see Rafa’s uncle Toni so emotional. Teared up answering questions on how Rafa’s journey to this point from February return “


Forehand Says:

nadalista Says:
@WTF, I conceded the point, you win.

LOL…Me too.
WTF,
You are great. Whatever you say is correct.


Forehand Says:

WTF,
Good luck. Try harder.


WTF Says:

Enjoy the win. It might be the only slam he can win for the rest of his career. He’s surely capable of winning the others, I just wouldn’t be brave enough to put any money on it.


Forehand Says:

And for all those who called Tsonga over Ferrer…….ROTFL


Forehand Says:

Uncle Toni is proving to be an astute tennis brain.
He has called the finalists correctly.


nadalista Says:

RT @scambers73: “Bit late, but what a match. @DjokerNole so close but has any player ever had an attitude like that of @RafaelNadal? Never ever gives up “


nadalista Says:

RT @christophclarey: “Djokovic very communicative despite disappointment of latest #FrenchOpen loss. Detailed, thoughtful answers. Complimentary of Nadal #RG13″


Forehand Says:

A spaniard is making the finals at RG without losing a set/
Who is that ?


Kimberly Says:

I love womens tennis but I don’t even think there is any point to watching the womens final. Let me predict the result.
Williams d. Sharapova 6-1 6-3


James Says:

Forehand, Uncle Toni knows tennis a little more than the fans. I disagreed with him about Ferrer having more chances than Federer. But I was wrong. Also Toni isn’t as biased as some fans think he is. Saw him today applauding a Nole forehand winner.


gonzalowski Says:

WTF
lol, so, 20-15, and according to you in talent they are Nole10-Rafa6

:-)


Ty Says:

Wow, good point Forehand. I just looked back at Ferrer’s draw:

Mitosevic, Montanes (after 5 setter), Lopez (after 5 setter & 4 setter), K. Anderson, Robredo (after 3 straight five setters), Tsonga…

Damn. Talk about cupcake city.


montecarlo Says:

Stats are pretty one sided in Nadal’s favor and suggest Nadal played very offensive game today.

Nadal hit more aces (6 to 5), won higher % of points both on first (72 to 64) and second serve (60 to 53), won a higher % of returning points(39 to 33), hit more winners (61 to 54), made less unforced errors (44 to 75) and won 19 more total points(177 to 158).


Forehand Says:

This post is meant for the fed taard who repeatedly claimed that Rafa always wins with lesser number of winners (as if thats the most important stat).

Rafa has beaten Nole 61-54 in that department today.
And 21 winners in the 5th set alone.


Kathy Says:

batlord Says:

Are you telling me NO ONE is going to say anything about Uncle Tony coaching Rafa almost the ENTIRE MATCH???

I cannot believe I am reading this. The coaching coming from Djokovic’s side was blatant, not only spoken but hand signals also given. Take the blinkers off.


Okiegal Says:

@batlord

No, I didn’t play tennis. You just now posted if he was coaching, it’s illegal. That is true……but a big if, also. I still think as long as Rafa has been playing, he knows what he should do or should have done when a match is not going his way. Just saying…..dont think Tony is coaching every times he opens his. He does get excited and emotional…..and who could blame him.


Forehand Says:

Weather forecast for Sunday is poor.

Ferrer/Tsonga has a real chance to take down the tired KING.


Giles Says:

Forehand. The King will recover and prevail. Day’s rest tomorrow.


Forehand Says:

A BIG congrats to Sean for the correct prediction in 150,000 years.


James Says:

Forehand, The clay king won’t need the sun to brush aside Ferrer or Tsonga for his 8th title. Nole was the threat. He’s gone. Now only Rafa’s poor game can cost him the win in the final.
Also thanks for brining up the stats. In some ways, Rafa has shut his doubters up with this win. Was getting tired of that whoever it was always claiming Rafa doesn’t hit more winners in matches vs Fed or Nole.


contador Says:

I fell asleep for during the 4th set and woke up when the match was finishing and don’t feel at all like I missed anything.

If you are a big fan of the winner, it is a good match. I would not complain, if Nole would have won – it is a feat to even take a set vs Rafa at FO; but pretty certain discriminating Rafa fans who watched the entire match, would not even say it was the best 5 set match of the tournament, particularly, if Djokovic had won lol. It was not Rafa’s or Nole’s crowning performance, this semi.

Tsonga could very well be caught in two minds about winning this semi knowing Nadal is waiting. Ferru will absolutely not make a competitive match. He should but i don’t think he has a mind to come out and win vs any body named Federer or Nadal.

Tsonga v Rafa I would watch but…Tsonga is not playing like he played to get to this spot on Chatrier. It is disappointing as well. Blaaa The WTA final of Serena v Maria will be better!

I still have to vote Gasquet v Wawrinka the best match of the last weeks’.

We’ll see.


courbon Says:

Congratulations to all Rafas fans!( specially Brando, Kimberly,Julia, Alison and new hippy chic ).Gutted for my guy but at least he lost to great champion-and I’ll be rotting for Rafa in the final ( I don’t care about how many slams Rafa and Novak got, is Novak going to pass him and similar…)


Giles Says:

Sean has called the last 3 (?) tourneys.


WTF Says:

gonzalowski Says:

“WTF
lol, so, 20-15, and according to you in talent they are Nole10-Rafa6″

Sure. But how many of those 20 wins were on clay? How many on other surfaces? I said “overall talent” meter, which includes other surfaces. Rafa will win on clay, he will lose on the other surfaces. So overall, Nole is the more complete player.

Secondly, about 70% of those 20 wins were before Nole reached his potential. Right now the meter is more like 10-4. If they only played on clay, the meter might be 10-10.

The stretch of 7 or 8 wins in a row against Rafa (on all surfaces) all in finals pretty much speaks for itself.


WTF Says:

James Says:

“Forehand, Uncle Toni knows tennis a little more than the fans. I disagreed with him about Ferrer having more chances than Federer. But I was wrong. Also Toni isn’t as biased as some fans think he is. Saw him today applauding a Nole forehand winner.”

He probably just got the picks straight off Wertheim’s seed report. Werty predicted it would be Nadal def Ferrer in the final. And you guys called him crazy for underestimating Federer (to lose to Ferrer in semis). Turns out he overestimated Federer in assuming he could even make it that far.


nadalista Says:

Ferru leads 2 sets to love……..


RZ Says:

Ok Tsonga, time to channel your inner-Robredo and win in 5!


jane Says:

“The WTA final of Serena v Maria will be better!”

LOL, contador. Serena will rout Maria per usual. I think the FO is in for 2 very lopsided finals, both straight sets unless Ferru takes one. Ferrer’s already lost to Nadal 3 times on clay this year and ate 2 bagels in the process.


WTF Says:

RZ Says:

“Ok Tsonga, time to channel your inner-Robredo and win in 5!”

He’s done it before, even against the great Roger Federer at Wimbledon! He can do it. But not sure if he has the motivation. Whoever wins this is playing for second place and they both know it.


Forehand Says:

World no.5 Rafael Nadal struggles through the draw (losing 4 sets on the way) to meet world no.4 David Ferrer who has had a perfect tournament.

Who is the favorite ?


Forehand Says:

WTF,

Keep trying harder. You are doing good.


Forehand Says:

courbon Says:
“I don’t care about how many slams Rafa and Novak got, is Novak going to pass him and similar…”

Great post courbon….this is where you guys are great unlike the fed taards


Grisham Says:

Tsonga won’t even be holding a plate-any plate. Even after Muhammed Ali losing weight, playing and against a flyweight, here’s his best chance AT HOME and he’s so useless.


Forehand Says:

Rafa won 7 games to 3 after being 2-4 down in the fifth set.


James Says:

WTF, I didn’t see Federer losing to Tsonga and got my prediction wrong. But I did pick Rafa against Nole and Ferrer against Tsonga. I’d have picked Federer over Ferrer though had they met in the semis.


Forehand Says:

Rafa won 7 games to 3 after being 2-4 down in the fifth set.

This proves his superior mental and physical strength


jane Says:

It was quite similar to the 5th set of the AO 2012, only Nole won that one.


Forehand Says:

You are right Jane, Nole took 5-1 from 2-4 down in the fifth set


Bada Bing Says:

Nole, you did good today. Made the final last year, beat Rafa at MC and took him to 5 sets this time in his hot weather. You get closer each time. You will do it.


Forehand Says:

I am watching the 5 set again now. Rafa is playing awesome tennis creating winners at will. 18 winners in the 5th set AFTER being 2-4 down


James Says:

contador, it turned into a wonderful match despite some average tennis in 2nd and 3rd sets. Some pro tennis players are calling it one of the best now.


contador Says:

Well I saved the 5th set of AO 2012 and it is the only one I have an interest in watching – okay the 1st set was good too but 5 sets was too many – I remember complaining at the time.


RZ Says:

I’m guessing Roger Rasheed and Jo-Willy didn’t spend as much time watching how Rafa dismantles Ferrer as they did watching how he dismantles Fed (or maybe JWT just isn’t executing…)


WTF Says:

Forehand Says:

“Rafa won 7 games to 3 after being 2-4 down in the fifth set.

This proves his superior mental and physical strength”

Why didn’t he conjure up the same strength when he was UP a break in the 5th set in AO 2012?

What you said is exactly what Nole did to him in that match. I guess that day Nole had superior mental and physical strength.


andrea Says:

wow….c’mon ferrer.


Forehand Says:

James,
I agree with you.
If you take out 1.5 sets (second half of second set and third set), then this is definitely a classic just next to wimbledon 2008, AO 2012 and AO 2009.


Forehand Says:

Where are those guys who made fun of Uncle Toni for favoring Ferrer ????


contador Says:

Pros and experts alike, make biased and mistaken judgements. They have to big up a match like that for the sport.

I admit Wimbledon 2008 was pivotal but mostly because Rafa ended Rogers rule on grass. Otherwise 2007 was arguable as good, imo.

This is a huge achievement in tennis for Rafa to win this many FO’s okay but all records are subject to bias opinion. I don’t rate an eighth win at a grand slam for one player any bigger than Rafa’s singular win of US Open or Federer’s of FO. Each of those singular wins are reasons at this point why Federer and Nadal are members of the Career Slam Club.

It is subjective how one rates the records. Taken as a whole however even the most anti-fed or anti-nadal has to admit both have the credentials to match Legend of the game.


Giles Says:

http://alturl.com/aemsh
Good read.
Vamos King!


C!P! Says:

oddly enough, if Ferrer loses to Rafa in the final ,most likely ,he will overtake Nadal for 4th spot


Forehand Says:

Conty,
Relax….Federer is the GOAT. Most likely he will remain so.

Rafa has a big task ahead of him if he has to take down the GOAT.

But he will try…..try harder…and even harder…..he wont let it go without a fight.


RZ Says:

Poor Tsonga. It’s gotta be tough being a French player at Roland Garros.


andrea Says:

yay! nice effort by ferrer. shame that he has to face nadal. what a coup if he could actually win this thing.


nadalista Says:

I CALLED IT: ALL SPANISH FINAL!

Now I go and celebrate Rafa’s win with a nice dinner with good friends.

Vamos!!


contador Says:

It had become embarrassing, it being my fanaticism and need for Federer to win more Wimbledons and US opens by the time Fed got his 2009 FO title. I remember cringing when I though Fed would win the US Open in 2009 and cheering for Delpo earnestly hahahaha

also taking a kicking for cheering Delpo and being a Fed fan, lol..
also cheered for Roddick during the Wimbles final, as confessed.

This Ferru win is something I hardly notice because the final is redundant. I don’t at all hate Nadal – that is just how it is. I won’t be interested unless I can be surprised and Ferrer at least gets a set or extends the match to 5 sets but no one in their right mind thinks Ferrer will take it to 5 sets let alone win. :D hahaha…


Forehand Says:

“most likely ,he will overtake Nadal for 4th spot”

Not most likely….he has already sealed it. Come Monday he will be ranked above Rafa.


contador Says:

if you called the US Open or Wimbledon Final I would be impressed Nadalita but this one….sorry, lol…


volley Says:

“I CALLED IT: ALL SPANISH FINAL!”

a real visionary. nobody would have predicted that 3 days ago.


C!P! Says:

read my post again “most likely” is for Rafa’s WIN sunday


contador Says:

Forehand,

It is not about the – Goat or not – question for me – never has been. I get very sick of the Goat debate – that is more redundant than a Ferrer v Nadal or Wawa v Federer final.


Forehand Says:

C!P! Says:
read my post again “most likely” is for Rafa’s WIN sunday

Oops sorry…I got it.


Forehand Says:

Its great to see the world no.5 creating havoc in the men’s tour.


nadalista Says:

Of course @contador, I am here in this world solely to impress you!

More importantly, with this win, Ferru is guaranteed to take back the #4 ranking which means Rafa may be ranked #5 for Wimby.

I for one hope he falls in Novak’s quarter at Wimby, Rafa that is…………

Goodnight everybody!!!


contador Says:

I think the Goat question may be an issue or a sore spot for Nadal fanatics more than Fed fans in the end.

Maybe because Nadal is Nadal and at least in the press, if not genuinely, credits Federer as greater than himself. That might annoy me if I were a Rafa fan.


Daniel Says:

Did Ferrer just reach this fonal not losing a single set in the process?! To bad all dreams have an end and hos has date and time.

Nadal may do RG / Wimby double again this year. He won madrid (last 4 years Madrid champion won Wimbledon)

In 4 weeks time he could be 13 Slam Champion, but first things first. #12 on Sunday and a 9th consecutive year winning Slams.


RZ Says:

I’m wondering how many casual tennis/sports fans will gloss over Ferrer’s name, and then tune into the final on Sunday and be surprised to see that it’s not Federer playing against Rafa.


contador Says:

Well you throw it out there Nadalista….so back your predictive abilities up and get in the Wimbles and US Open bracket – lets see how good you are :D


Forehand Says:

Within a space of 1 month Rafa reaches 20 wins against 3 three different players


Forehand Says:

contador Says:
Maybe because Nadal is Nadal and at least in the press, if not genuinely, credits Federer as greater than himself. That might annoy me if I were a Rafa fan.

Not in my case. I always burst into laughter everytime he says that after beating Federer black and blue. It is like rubbing salt in the wound.


contador Says:

Salt is whose wound in your mind Forehand?


contador Says:

Do you have a clue who is wounded or do you simply toss every Federer fan together in a salad and salt it. hahahaha


contador Says:

And why do you delight in fantasizing that you are taunting an kicking sand on enemies in a kindergarten sand box?

Can’t you wrap your mind around a better reason to watch tennis and post on the internet? sheesh


contador Says:

Well have fun Forehand.


James Says:

Relax, Fed fans(atics) the Swiss great is the GOAT. Nadal still has a long way to get to him. He’ll need a Wimby and 2 HC Slams more to challenge Roger’s goatdom. That’s a tall task even for the Nadal.


James Says:

Roger most likely is to remain the GOAT. I’m just happy my boy Nadal dominated the GOAT.
That aside, I hope to see a great Roger match one more time before his retirement. Hopefully at Wimbledon.


contador Says:

The Wta final will only take 2 sets and be over – the men’s final will take 3. For me, neither final will be on my to do list unless the scoreline indicates some sort of upset is afoot.

I think that is what is most disappointing about the same winner every year – to appreciate it fully, you got to be a diehard fan of one of the players, most ideally the winner. Even if… you are a fan of the winner and you might be the kind that starts to feel uneasy like it is over the top your done with eating the same meal, like on a binge. It is something akin to getting the limit and lifetime dose your body and mind can handle without going into anaphylactic shock. You have had enough of the same – whether you like it or not lols

rant chugging to a halt. I knew this would happen. Disappointed hopes. Still want Novak to get a Career Slam, damm it.

Better luck next year hey? Just like Groundhogs Day – to be continued…

Grendel, where are you, anyway. Hope you are okay.


Forehand Says:

“That aside, I hope to see a great Roger match one more time before his retirement. Hopefully at Wimbledon.”

Me too James. I want one more at USO also. That will just round off Rafa’s CV.


Brando Says:

@Courbon: Thanks, you really are an ace fan:-) Seriously, I was sad a bit when Novaklost for nice fans like you- it was like AO but with different result. I’m sure Novak will win RG one day. Glad you’ll root for Rafa on Sunday though- I think we’ll need it. Ferru looks tough IMO.


contador Says:

Ideally, James, Nole would have won this FO. It would short cut him into legend stratosphere and he could be the one to relax.

That match today did not look like fun actually for any of the semi-finalists, even Ferrer, until end of match.

Then ideally to satisfy the required quota to catch and pass Federer Nadal would stomp any question into the ground by winning Wimbles, USO and AO over again until the number was right.

But number is not a measure stick of best imo – it is the commercially accepted one, though. It is like Giro d Italia will never be, yes the word, never, can be used here because Tour de France is more commercially rooted and thus more prestigious – that is to the casual fan or if you like seeing the same mountain stages over and over again year after year. Giro d Italia and Vuelta are more interesting if you are an avid fan. Actually the day classics are now, since doping hit the fan – day races are more believable.

Most casual tennis fans around here don’t even watch FO or AO only US Open and Wimbles. Forget anything lesser like an ATP 1000. Blank look is all one gets.


grisham Says:

I for one hope he falls in Novak’s quarter at Wimby, Rafa that is…………

Nadalista
Don’t worry,Murray will take out Rafa at Wimbledon if Rosol doesn’t do it first. :-)


Steve 27 Says:

I for one hope he falls in Novak’s quarter at Wimby, Rafa that is…………

I prefer 10 times Djokovic than Murray on grass. He is beatable and perhaps his streak is gonna end in SW 19!


ckr Says:

I hope Rasol is in Rafa’s second round of Wimby and perhaps Nadal second round loss streak continues in SW 19…


James Says:

contador, I’m afraid, it’s the numbers in sports that history remembers. Pete was known for his 14 GS and 7 Wimbys, just as Roger is now known for his 17 GS (he’ll add 1 more, I think). That’s how it goes. And it’s the Slams that count the most, not the Masters that much. Also it’s actually really hard to compare great players across generations. Which is why I prefer to call Roger the most successful of all time for his 17 Slams, and not the best ever. Because I really don’t know how he’d have fared against say Bjorn Borg or Pete Sampras at his peak.
And I don’t know about others but I think it does mean something to have a superior H2H vs top players of your time. Just my opinion.


James Says:

and those of you thinking Rosol will take out Nadal again at Wimby, keep dreaming. These things don’t happen all the time. Nadal should be able to demolish the Rosol guy next time they meet. And it would be very tough for Andy Murray to take down Nadal even at Wimby. Murray doesn’t fight Nadal as much as he fights Djokovic or Federer.


jamie Says:

Told you so.


Steve 27 Says:

Who is rasol? Lol, tard. your idol is done


contador Says:

Well, perhaps mostly true about the numbers, James.

However you do admit that the H2H is “just my opinion” as you say.
And I could go off on H2H and argue against it and why – it is not that simple to go on one H2H and why bla bla. In many cases, it will be opinion albeit not too swift, that Rafa’s GS count doesn’t count because afterall where the **** is Roland Garros? and why isn’t it a Grand Slam? -yes most average sports fans in the US don’t know. Nor can you be assured that they really know much about tennis or the ATP schedule, ranking point system, which tournaments is what, ect.

If you asked someone random in the US you may get a Jay Leno type of laugh in what they will answer about who is best in tennis. Right up there with the best in some circles might be Ana Kornakova. why her? name recognition – she is sometimes a subject in gossip columns. I do think Sharapova is well known but not every bloke on the street will know and lord knows hardly one person even if they have heard of Rafa Nadal and have a crush on him, it is not likely they will know how many GS titles he has and where he got them, ect. More likely they heard of Xisca and looked at pictures than even have read Wikipedia about him.

For purposes on the street in the US – you have to think commercial product, branding, good looks, star quality, ability to communicate in English language, is marginally good looking, ect.

For purposes on these tennis talk sites and blogs the average poster will know Nadal, Federer, they will have heard of Andy Murray possibly and Novak Djokovic and be able to spout even perhaps in depth knowledge of their favorite but don’t ask them who won Indian Wells or Miami unless they live next door to their respective center courts. I am a crazy fan fanatic for tennis compared to the average US born tennis fan. I watch challengers and played tennis in college not a big college but yeah I know a deuce court from an ad one and can keep score. This is fun.

Wta knowledge for my own standard is pretty low but if I said Maria Kirilenko to most sport fans here they might think about LPGA – 9 out of 10 it will be over their head. They’ll know Serena and Venus for sure, in most cases.

The point I lost is – numbers may or may not be how a sport fan remembers a player, depending on where they live and a lot of other things.

I was never a fan of Pete Sampras and you would not get me to answer he is the best , even when he commercially and according to most experts had the most GS titles.

In general I think numbers are interpreted in a biased way and numbers are still easy to manipulate and thus largely subjective.

My favorite before Federer would have been Stephan Edberg on the men’s side and Navratalova on the womens. In fact nationality has absolutely nothing to do with how I pick a favorite and someone else would count nationality right up there at the top as an influence of who is the greatest or their best ever.

So this has been fun typing and I could go on. But I will not get into h2h or the Goat debate because those are too subjective and I gave it up maybe in 2009 after Federer won FO. That was my measure personally for naming my own Goat – must have all GS titles and a decent mix of surface title wins, Nole has grown on me and I want him to get a Career slam too – I think his tennis is great enough with or without the FO – for me to like him as much as Federer.

But I like so many – Aggie Radwanska and Li Na are faves…. i can talk on and on…but not about defending Federer or Nadal. I still defend Nole and it would just be easier had he won the FO this two years ago. Gotta laugh james!

It is a headache getting into Goat and H2H to summarize and I don’t go there anymore – in fact I avoid it (usually) the same way I do the topic of doping and other unsavory subjects.


courbon Says:

So, we are talking about Wimbledon?
It will be won most likely by Rafa or Novak.
Andy is after that, then Fed.
Everybody consider Andy to be great on grass but I think Rafa can beat him.( so does Novak ) When Andy wins Wimbledon ,then I will consider him best on the grass ( I have to take Fed out of this mix, because he is on the way down but off course he is the King of grass).


the DA Says:

^ I agree mostly but remember the Olympics? Especially the SF. That made me think differently for the first time.


Steve 27 Says:

Murray will trash the Djoker in Wimbledon like Federer at Olympics the last year. Murray will win SW 19 2013!


James Says:

contador, just saw your post. Thanks for taking the time to write/type that.
And I agree, tennis isn’t the biggest sport in the US. Most of my friends don’t care about tennis at all. I get all excited with the French Open, Wimbledon, etc and most of my friends just don’t!
I love tennis and used to play a lot. But I also do enjoy soccer, rugby, baseball, cricket, you name it lol. And like Rafa in tennis, I have my fav players/teams in other sports too.

As for the GOAT debate, most players and experts consider Roger to be it. He definitely is the most successful player of all time. My second fav player after Nadal. I appreciate Nole too, but I don’t enjoy his game that much to be honest. And I find Andy Murray’s game boring lol
but that’s me.

Top story: Rafael Nadal Is Training Hard For 2015 [Video]
Most Recent story: Tommy Haas Will Not Play The Australian Open
  • Recent Comments
Rankings
ATP - Dec 15 WTA - Dec 15
1 Novak Djokovic1 Serena Williams
2 Roger Federer2 Maria Sharapova
3 Rafael Nadal3 Simona Halep
4 Stan Wawrinka4 Petra Kvitova
5 Kei Nishikori5 Ana Ivanovic
6 Andy Murray6 Agnieszka Radwanska
7 Tomas Berdych7 Eugenie Bouchard
8 Milos Raonic8 Caroline Wozniacki
9 Marin Cilic9 Angelique Kerber
10 David Ferrer10 Dominika Cibulkova
More: Tennis T-Shirts | Tennis Shop | Live Tennis Scores | Headlines

Copyright © 2003-2014 Tennis-X.com. All rights reserved.
This website is an independently operated source of news and information and is not affiliated with any professional organizations.