Rafael Nadal Says It’s “Completely Fair” That He’s Seeded Fifth At Wimbledon
by Tom Gainey | June 22nd, 2013, 2:33 pm
  • 146 Comments

Rafael Nadal is losing any sleep over his No. 5 seeding at Wimbledon. Instead, the 2-time Wimbledon champion is OK with how everything turned out, even though he’s seeded to face rival Roger Federer in the quarterfinal.

“The rankings say that these kind of things can happen,” Nadal said today. “So I know you are talking about Andy and Roger probably, but I don’t see them before quarterfinals and semifinals. So I have a long way to work before that.

“I am No. 5 in the world today, so the rankings say is a longer discussion. Is the way that the ranking is doing. Is completely fair that I am No. 5. I am No. 5 and David is No. 4. He win his privilege to be No. 4 before me, and that’s it.”

In his first grass match in about a year, Nadal will play Monday against Belgian Steve Darcis in the opening round.

“It’s always a nice feeling [to] play on grass, a surface that I really like to play,” Nadal said. “Without playing a tournament before here always is a little bit tougher, because is easier to adjust your game on the competition because you really play with the real feelings than when you are only practicing.”

Nadal has reached the finals of all nine events he’s played this year. He’s won his last 22 matches including the French Open.


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146 Comments for Rafael Nadal Says It’s “Completely Fair” That He’s Seeded Fifth At Wimbledon

nadalista Says:

Vamos Rafa!


Skeezer Says:

“He win his privilege to be No. 4 before me, and that’s it.”

Thats what I said. Well said Rafa, glad you don’t listen to your Fanatics.


Giles Says:

And then we have the fed fanatics saying Rafa always complains! Geez! Those are the words of a true Champion and sportsman.
Vamos Rafa! Stay healthy and try your best like you always do!


Paradox Says:

What a great person this champion is.


Tennis x hippy chic Says:

Quite right Rafa,no problem at all from me either,nothing to see hear move on.


Julia Says:

Looking back at the blogs when Rafa was “expected” to be seeded 5th and the blog where he was seeded 5th, the majority of Rafa fans were saying he will do his best no matter who is on the other side of the net. That is exactly what he will do!


TennisZod Says:

Clay guy, too bad you dont get to final or Nole put you in your right place. I think Federer beat you easily in quarter final. If not old Fed, Murray do in semifinal. If not, Nole beat you for sure. Then Nole become true king of Wimbledon. Butt picker and his silly fans see Nole fulfill his destiny, to be the true Goat. This time he eat grass more than before. Ajde Nole!


Anna Says:

Rafa doesn’t mind the hard work, it’s everybody else wringing their hands over Roger possibly dropping to 5th for the USO. I’m sure Roger will be just as generous as Rafa though when it’s his turn at 5th seed. Unless he can beat Rafa, Andy and Novak of course.


metan Says:

Yessss. That’s my champion.. VAMOS RAFA!!


jane Says:

I think Rafa’s right, naturally. As difficult as this makes his path (and others’ paths), he did take all that time out to recuperate, so it’s fair that Daveed gets his due for sticking out, and making several deeps runs at the slams in a row now – what is it? Quarters last year at Wimbledon; Semis at last year’s USO; Semis at the AO; and then Finals at the FO. I mean, he earned his 4th seed. He also won the Paris masters last year. Good for Ferrer. It’s meant the draws have been a little lopsided at the last three or four slams, but it is what it is (much as I dislike that saying, it’s true!).


Micky Says:

Words of a fair sportsman, no doubt….


Brando Says:

“but it is what it is (much as I dislike that saying, it’s true!).”: I hope you don’t dislike it for my fondness of using it Jane:-)


Brando Says:

PS: Agree with you re draw and what Rafa has to deal with. Enough has been said about the draw, especially by me of course, but it’s time to get on with the show. Bring on the championship!


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Ranking has been fair. It was an unnecessary digression from the media to make Nadal as No 4. What on earth were they thinking of Ferrer, who did so much of hardwork to put himself in the position where is he.

It would have been a disgrace if Rafa was ranked ahead of Ferrer, who was incidentally a runner-up at FO.


TennisZod Says:

Rafa deep down know his rightful place in the ranking, no5. Rafa fans, accept truth Nole better.


Skeezer Says:

“And then we have the fed fanatics saying Rafa always complains! Geez”

Give it time for ALL fans to digest. It is a first. Not the typical. you know this. Lets wait and see if he loses in the early rounds. Or the later rounds, or the final.


mem Says:

to rafafans in particular & others:

have any of you guys read this article? it is quite interesting to say the least.

http://www.newsbiscuit.com/2013/06/22/brazilians-protest-nadal-ranking/


metan Says:

@ mem. Thanks a lot!! This is show how big Nadal is…. Just saying. btw, have you ever heard that other players has that kind of support from his fans past and present???


Giles Says:

@mem. Thanks for the link. Let’s hope this doesn’t flare up in the All England Club but nice to know the support Rafa receives all over the world.


mem Says:

Giles,
you guys are welcome! my first thought was, why hasn’t Giles posted this? of course i realized that you had not seen it yet. incredible stuff!

metan,

no, i have not heard of a player having this kind of support. rafa is certainly a global inspiration to the young and old. i am very proud of him. God bless him!


Nadalista Says:

Don’t worry, @skeezer, we know you’ve got the Rafa-excuses-o-meter at the ready and will promptly inform us at the first beep.


jonson Says:

Roger will beat Rafa if they are meet quarter


Giles Says:

^^^ How many crystal balls have you been looking into?


queen Says:

Seeding is fair. Stop this frenzy. Rafa is doomed to win Wimbledon this year. Vamos!!!


gonzalowski Says:

Lol!
That article about brazilian and Nadal… For sure its a fake!
Brazilian people are protesting about politics, these days,at the same time that the Confederations Football Cup.

It’s a false article, people


the DA Says:

The OoP is out:

Centre Court: Federer vs Hanescu, Sharapova vs Mladenovic, Murray vs Becker

No.1 Court: Azarenka vs. Koehler, Nadal vs. Darcis, Hewitt vs. Wawrinka

No.2 Court: Ivanovic vs. Razzano, Cilic vs. Baghdatis, Tsonga vs. Goffin, Kvitova vs. Vandeweghe

Some juicy matches in store.


grendel Says:

In a match, if a player is disadvantaged in some way, either through ineptness or misfortune, he generally tries to keep his feelings to himself, or at least to keep their expression to a minimum. Otherwise, he is giving a welcome message to his opponent.

Publicly expressed opinion, on such a topic, is no different. The message isn’t quite all, but it’s close.

Wakey, wakey!


rafaeli Says:

I have not heard a single Rafa fan say he should be seeded above Ferrer


metan Says:

@gonzalowski.

Thanks for clarifying . Hahaha. The news sounds great no.


Giles Says:

@gonzalowski. Do you know for certain the article is a fake or is it just your opinion


metan Says:

@Giles. That’s new virus. Please check on the google


Giles Says:

With regard to the seedings it is all water under the bridge now. The AEC have made their decision, whether rightly or wrongly. Let the games begin!
Vamos Rafa! Stay healthy!


gonzalowski Says:

Only my opinion… it’s a very strange photo, that people… knowing the social protests that are happening…


Giles Says:

@metan. Just googled, article on the web!


metan Says:

@Giles. I knew it. I have made double checked. There is one of many methods people inject the virus into websites . I learn it in my class.


Danny Morris Says:

I don’t think Wimbledon or the players were waiting with baited breath to see what Rafa has to say – let’s face it, the guy has nothing to say for most part.

I would say Uncle Toni’s views matter more than what Rafa thinks. As Grendel said Nadal’s comments are predictable and you can have a robot that doesn’t know how to speak well in English come and parrot his statements.

99.99% of the time, he has nothing to say and keeps yapping the same thing. The rest of the time his views are very self-centred and tailored to suit his ends or are very defensive like “Ferrer is a bigger favorite than me”.

#HisInterviewsAreSnoozeFests

Let’s see what Serena has got to say about Maria’s comments. LOL! Now, those two got a personality and a mind that they like to speak.


Danny Morris Says:

^^^
In above post : “As Grendel said, should be replaced with Adding to what Grendel said….”


Nadalista Says:

Yes, Maria and Serena are titillating to the tabloid class to whom they appeal. Rafael Nadal is interesting to the thinking man and woman, no filth needed to get his point across.


Tennis x hippy chic Says:

Never particulaly cared what he says in press conferences,never really cared what any of them says in press conferences TBH,they are pretty much all a much of a muchness,only really care about what they do on a tennis court,Gulbis was right when he said that they are boring,and Roger was right when he said that when you do so many how are you supposed to make them sound interesting?


grendel Says:

The military theorist Clauswitz wrote that “war is a continuation of politics by other means”. Adapting this saying, you could say that public speaking is a continuation of building up a tennis reputation by other means….


metan Says:

@Danny Moris

You have a chance to become Rafa PR instructor just incase there’s a vacancy. Lol.

Those who speak little are the wise.

#ifboringwhyread&watch


Giles Says:

@DM. “99.99 % of the time he has nothing to say and keeps yapping the same thing”. Lol Look in the mirror troll!


Giles Says:

Just because Gulbis makes his private life public does he expect the other pros to do the same to perhaps make their interviews more “interesting”? For the players themselves the questions asked at their respective press conferences must be boring in itself. You ask boring questions, you get boring responses!


skeezer Says:

“You ask boring questions, you get boring responses!”

Here we go again. Its someones’s fault. The press be damned!


volley Says:

most player interviews at tournaments are prosaic affairs. federer is the consummate PR man and handles them like a pro. his interviews only become interesting when the mask slips such as when he asked about djokovic’s ‘skilful’ return on mp at the us open.

nadal may not say much but i appreciate the sincerity and warmth that come across in his interviews. tsonga often has interesting interviews.


Giles Says:

skeezer the geezer. Are you stalking me? It’s funny but you never fail to comment on my comments! Lol


Giles Says:

Thank you @ Volley.


metan Says:

@Giles. Didn’t I say skeezer has a best friend???


Danny Morris Says:

It’s tough to handle the truth. Uncle Toni is the real guy with some thoughts. Rafa is just a puppet. He is a “trained” individual not an educated one like Roger, Nole or Andy.

Rafa is just a reserved guy who sucks at public speaking. I am not blinded by the rafa blinkers that his trolls have. I can call a spade a spade. Serena, Maria, Roger and Nole do a great job with their press conferences.


Giles Says:

^^^ Hope it’s not me! Yukkk!


Giles Says:

My last comment is for @metan


Nadalista Says:

I don’t believe I have seen a post by Danny Morris where Rafa’s name is not mentioned. He is a true fan.


skeezer Says:

Gliescher,

stalking? you’re as usual delusional. its just that u litter post so much hardly anyone else can post. u stalk yourself.


Giles Says:

See geezer, there you go again!


Giles Says:

@nadalista. Do you blame him? Rafa is the current topic of conversation, the ole soldier not.
Vamos King!


metan Says:

Last year we had someone name Siena who loves talking about Rafa. Now we have Danny Moris. Grief!!!


grendel Says:

@Volley 10.52 -

I have commented on Federer and pr on the other thread. Calling Federer a “consummate” pr man – except when the mask slips – is one of those half- truths which is more damaging than an outright lie. Here is why:

Federer is undoubtedly highly pr conscious. For a man who conducts so many interviews, it would be very strange if he wasn’t. Why does he conduct so many interviews?

Unlike many posters, I have not read Federer’s biography, do not compulsively follow his daily activities and in fact have almost no interest in that side of him (or of any other player – life is too short for such nonsense). So I have no inside knowledge. I can only go on what I see. I see a man who is above all (outside his own extravagant gifts), ordinary. He seems to me to be an amiable person by and large – so I can easily imagine that he gives in to yet one more tiresome request – but at the same time with a pretty healthy sense of self-worth. PR will come into this, but at the same time it will not be too much of a burden. That’s because he likes what he does. He is a tennis nutter with, I suspect, few interests outside the game (which makes you wonder what he will do when he retires – he might find that gap harder to fill than many). So he enjoys talking about tennis. If you miss this side of him, then you must be wearing some peculiar spectacles.

And Nadal? I don’t know whether he is schooled by uncle Toni or not and don’t know how other people know either. What undoubtedly comes across is an absolute determination to reveal nothing, which is what makes some of his interviews sound very funny, at least to me. They are eminently parodyable. Funnily enough, I don’t dispute the idea that he is “sincere and warm”. He may well be. I remember an incident after he had won Wimbledon, first time I think, and some teenage girl wanted to take a picture of him (as he was walking off) but couldn’t seem to work the i-phone properly. He instantly took it off her, did some thing or other, gave it back to her, and she no doubt was in a state of bliss. It stretches the imagination to breaking point to suggest that this was a calculated act. No, it was spontaneous and impressive. And I don’t say that such warmth does not leek into the interviews: in the end, people reveal themselves whatever they do. But Nadal is most certainly not sincere in his appraisal of the task facing him in his next match or tournament. He has an agenda – a legitimate one – and he follows it compulsively. My hunch is that he wants to make sure that there is no energy depletion whatever. This is a man who transforms himself on the tennis court into one of the most competitive beasts the sporting world has ever known. That takes careful preparation, of the mind as well as the body.


Paradox Says:

Ha ha. This Danny Morris is really a yellow journalism fan.He himself proves it eagerly!.


gonzalowski Says:

And Rafa and his ‘troupe’ are mediterranean people. Like greeks, italians… it’s generally accepted that they can be sometimes little liars… they may not have the need of telling always the thruth.
Well, there is some biased prejudgement on here, but…


rafaeli Says:

Danny Morris Says:
“Serena, Maria, Roger and Nole do a great job with their press conferences.”

Except that it’s standing room only at Rafa’s pressers. Journos traveled from all ends of the earth to just for Rafa. No one ever bothered with the SA swing until Rafa showed up.


volley Says:

@ grendel

of course i know his tennis geek side . he has an accute tennis brain and has given some astute observations about the players’ styles and the game in general. i was referring mostly to the interviews during slams or masters events.

When I say the ‘mask’ slips i’m referring to the occasions where he hasn’t credited a player after a loss or where has played down a player’s achievements (some would call it trash talking). i’ve posted many examples in the past but we don’t need to dredge up this issue again (and ignite the requisite flame war). it is simply my opinion based on the many interviews i’ve read over the years.


James Says:

Rafa fans, worry not. Rafa is confident and playing well. It will take something special to stop him from his 3rd Wimbledon title.
If he is to win, it’s good that he’ll achieve his goal beating the world #3, #2 and #1 in that order. 4 sets to beat Fed, 4 sets to beat Muzza and 5 sets to beat Nole.


Giles Says:

@James. Amen to that.
Vamos Rafa!


Bada Bing Says:

A nice article about Novak with Pierre

http://tinyurl.com/lp68nb2


Bada Bing Says:

When do the ESPN picks come out?


jane Says:

Thanks for the links Bada Bing.


Daniel Says:

@mem @giles

C’mon!! We are having several protests in Brazil (ingra structer crisis) and they have nothing to do with Nadal. Is just one fan who bringes the poster in.

I saw one that had the followomg;
“Liberté, Egalité, Beyoncé”. Kkkkk Priceless!!


grendel Says:

@volley

In short, Federer has been a sore loser. I have myself remarked on that, in any case it’s common knowledge, although a few are in denial of course. Nevertheless, there is no doubt that of late he has been mellower, and much more inclined to give credit to the opponent who has defeated him. I suppose you could argue that is mere p.r., on the old grounds that hypocrisy is the tribute which vice pays to virtue. But that is harsh, and you’d better have very good grounds for saying so.

On the other thread, you dismissed Federer’s positive Murray comments as “pure p.r.” I find that unlikely just on account of this very notable mellowing, detected by other posters as well. Of course, no change is absolute. But I think credit should be given where it is due.


grendel Says:

@nadalista 2.36

In the womens’ sleeper category, chosen by Shriver, the photograph for Hampton is absolutely NOT Hampton. It’s probably Vesnina, who yesterday beat Hampton at Eastbourne.


mem Says:

Daniel,

it’s not a big deal!
i posted an article that i came aross, whether its legit or a hoax doesn’t make a difference to me. you can calm down now!


nadalista Says:

@grendel 4:20pm;

Which makes me take their picks with a pinch of salt. If they do know how one of their own looks like, how can I trust their judgement?


Anna Says:

mem- The article you posted seems to have come from the British version of the American “Onion”. It’s all humour and satire. Did you read any of the other articles? I should make it a Sunday morning read. It seems that the Brazilians were protesting a number of different injustices, Rafa’s seeding being one of them. I thought it was great.

Giles – Skeezer is a known stalker on this blog, in fact you could call him a “grinder” when it comes to harassing Rafa fans. I’m pretty sure someone should be testing his blood at least every other day.


Daniel Says:

mem,

I am perfectly calm, just highlighting that somebody took one photo with one sign and made the Hoax (funny) test as if there would actually be a protest with 1 million for tennis:)


mem Says:

Daniel,

no problem!


mem Says:

thanks Anna!
in hindsight i realize that had i thought twice i would have known the article was a spoof. well, what can i say, it happens that way some times.


Danny Morris Says:

It’s the 2nd time rafa fans have been caught manipulating an article and trying to pass it off so that the world will blindly genuflect in front of a nadal poster like they do.

Giles did a similar thing posting only a part of a tweet from a journalist to sell his idea that Nadal is the greatest of this generation. It reflects on the standards set by nadal that cheating and lying is not a big deal for his fans.

The icing was mem asking Daniel to calm down for pointing her mistake and exposing her juvenile stunt.


mem Says:

Danny,

first of all, i don’t recall directing my comments to you. secondly, rafafans don’t have to explain themselves to you or anyone else. if i want to post an article, i will do just that, and without your permission i might add.

i think you are in love with your own comments. in fact, i think you actually believe this nonsense you spew on a daily basis. as far as im concerned, you are just another empty wagon making a lot of noise. take my advice and stick to playing with your toys and stay out of grown ups business.


Danny Morris Says:

#meltdown
#take your meds mem!


skeezer Says:

Don’t forget it was the very mem who posted the “egg” article, and then claiming Novak was getting an unfair advantage. Oh thats right, it was all for love, my rafa , my life, my everything. This is a “club” of Rafafanatics looking for every little detail to post to p!ss on everyone not Rafa and talk about how Rafa is “almost perfect”. Good thing most posters see through all that crap.


James Says:

It’s alright, Rafa. You still get to play the GOAT on grass after all these years. We are all excited about it.


Danny Morris Says:

James:

Goodluck to your fave, buddy. I hope you give Fed/Nole their due credit and continue to be a fair rafa poster like Alison and Kimberly.


Bada Bing Says:

Prediction:Tim Henman assessed that Nadal being the form player will be the likely winner this year


Paradox Says:

This Gonzalowski revealed his racist side and it is clear from his comments that he embraces racism.It should be taken seriously by tennis-x. As for Danny Morris, he is just a yellow journalism fan.Skeezer the boozer’s job is to provoke with stupid anti Nadal comments.Earlier he acted like a gentleman and made derogatory comments about rafa in a concealed manner.Now everyone can easily see that he is just an irrational blind hater.


Bada Bing Says:

Jamie, where are you and what is your astrology prediction?


Danny Morris Says:

I wish all these people who are predicting a Nadal win tell us who they picked as winner last Wimbledon.

I will take a wild guess they used the same stupid logic that winning on clay = winning on grass and picked Nadal. They might have done that every year since 2005. Guess how many they got right? 2 – yes 2.

Thank you. Please give me journalists who can analyze and process statistics and not random ex-players, sometimes even Mcenroe or Borg and decent writers like Bodo/Tignor.

Mcenroe/Navratilova keep picking Wooden Racquet or Pete Sampras for the win, every year – knowing full well neither is playing wimbledon. Borg – He is a perfect example of a Great Tennis player who has no idea what is happening in the game 30 years after he quit. A lot of sportsmen are like him, great players but suck at analyzing and discussing the game.

Bodo is busy trying to increase traffic on his site with controversial statements, Tignor is too blined by his idol rafa and makes picks without any rational.

Darren Cahill is the only tennis analyst who seems to use his brain to make picks and sometimes Gilbert. I am glad Cahill as chosen Nole – who is my pick, as well. I would love to know who Agassi has picked, he seems like he has a good tennis head – apart from federer, only other player who can analyze technicalities/issues of the game coherently and in a very articulate manner.


Danny Morris Says:

“Guess how many they got right? 2 – yes 2.”

Maybe 3. I just remembered nada did channel slam in 2010 as well.


mem Says:

mr. skeezer,

yes, i posted the article about the chamber, but im not the one who wrote it nor am i the one who admitted to using the egg chamber, novak did. if you have a problem with it contact him or the person who wrote the article. i didn’t make it up!

you are getting me confused with you and we all know that you are a known liar and hypocrite. you think that you can call me out on something and i’ll deny it like you do. well, think again! i stand by what i have always said,which is, yes, i believe novak used the chamber consistently (particularly in 2011) which helped him to achieve an unbelievable level of quick recovery and stamina/endurance that he didn’t have prior to that time period. i repeat, YES, i believed it then and i still believe it. are you happy now? you so silly and ignorant to be a grown man, you are downright sickening. you don’t intimidate me!

you have the audacity to call me out on something when everyone knows you live, breathe, eat and sleep spreading lies and twisting the truth about everything rafa nadal says and does. you might have others convinced that you are the picture of objectivity and innocense, but in my book you are a joke!


Danny Morris Says:

#meltdown No. 2
#take your meds mem!


skeezer Says:

mem,

Yeah you aren’t the one who wrote but you were the one who tried to make it viral. As for the rest of your post, take the venom and put it where the sun don’t shine.

#exposed


skeezer Says:

@Pair a ducks,

Your not seeing it. I am not a Rafa hater. Its his delusional cult type club fanatics that are the ones I don’t care for. Rafa doesn’t need me or anyone else to prove his worthiness. His records speak for themselves. I may not like his on court behavior nor style, but his accomplishments against his peers demands respect. Its there. But this fanatical “club” crosses many lines, spews and litters the blogs with Rafa bias, with no respect to other fans favs(other than which will glorify Rafa), and tries to prop up Rafa when not needed. It makes posters hope that Rafa will be gone sooner rather than later, which, really, is a sad thing. Maybe when you types bring heeps of praise to other players as well as your own posters will stop what you falsely believe is “Rafa hating”. If you think I am a lone wolf in all this, think again.
Look. In the mirror.


Nadalista Says:

As if disliking Rafans is going to affect Rafa’s performance, not. So, what’s the point?

Vamos Rafa!


mem Says:

skeezer,

what’s the matter? you can’t handle the truth. i expect that from a coward.


Nadalista Says:

Rafans, continue posting and supporting our man as you wish. No one here has a right to tell you how you should post, how you should support Rafa, blah, blah blah.

As for this “I like Rafa it’s his fans I cannot stand” shtick, well proves my point, these people are Rafans, welcome to the club! The Rafa fan club is just that, a fan club, not a cult. So fans of Rafa can disagree and have different opinions. So if you don’t like other Rafans, that’s okay, as long a you like and admire RAFA!

Vamos Rafans


Bob Snow Says:

Going by current form and a winning pattern Nadal should have been seeded second or even first. The other top four seeds have not been consistently winning many tournaments the way Nadal has been winning in the last 3 months. So the seedings does not justify the actual results of these players the last 3 months. But if Nadal reaches last 8 and beats both Federer and Murray then it will be very difficult for Djokovic to beat Nadal in the finals if he also reaches finals.


skeezer Says:

Oh yes the rafa cult club call!! ROFL!!
Attempting to affect Rafa’s performance by POSTS?
Lol

#delusionalproof
#cultexposed

—-

@mem

You of All posters should not be posting about truth.

#cowardessmaximus
#eggness


Margot Says:

@skeeze
But there are fans of all the players who are “fanatics.” And of course we tend to view more favourably those “nutters” who support our own particular favourite. It’s that tribal thing again.


skeezer Says:

^tribal thing, agreed. I get that terminology. They are a “tribe”, and cultish primitive tribal at that. When it continues to go beyond the Tennis game, its nothing more than that. You have been around long enough to see it. The substance is not there anymore. Grendal nailed it. Rhetoric is the new talk here, and imo it sucks and takes down the game , not builds the fan base.
These fans won’t last. As soon as there wet dream infactuation leaves tennis, so will they. The true tennis fan will remain. I challenge these types to see if they will stick around and cheer the game on after there Love has gone. The game will live on, the player will not.


mem Says:

skeezer,

you got the nerve to talk about substance, you wouldn’t know what the word meant if it was carved in your forehead. you’ve been here blowing hot air so long until you think you have the authority to decide who stays or who goes, who says what and when. do you have any children on this blog? are you our daddy? you better get a grip on reality!


Paradox Says:

Skeezer the Boozer is again trying to act like a reasonable person which he is evidently not.This guy conveniently ignores the fact that through years,it was Fed fanatics who initiated this tendency to hurl unfounded accusations and abuses against Nadal.The boozer was really enjoying their comments then.But now when there is a significant increase in Nadal fans, and some of them are giviving back as they gets,this Boozer is not able to digest atall and is acting as though Fed fans are all saints,when in actuality they were the most offensive of all fans and who nourished this culture of abuses. Boozer and hypocrisy runs together.


Margot Says:

@skeeze
But skeeze, Fed fans are a “tribe” too, as are Muzza fans though outside UK our tribe is small and camped on the nether regions of the tennis empire.
These “tribes” embrace all from the raving irrational to the calm intellectual.


mem Says:

Paradox,

amen to that! you hit the nail on the head.


skeezer Says:

^like I said, the club unites.

mem,

“I got the nerve”

With you? Damn straight.

@pair a ducks,

Amen! You missed the nail, hit your thumb.

Never said I was a saint, nor Fed was. Get your facts straight. You types never can say the same. Rafa is always “perfect” in your eyes. But the facts …sorry…are the facts. You just can’t own up to it. Fedfans started this? That is the laugh of the decade!,

This is the SOP of these types. They can’t answer the critique of there fav, so they attack the poster. This is where the tribe fan base is atm. Sorry state.

@margot,

Noted where you stand. I agree with “raving irrational” . Its evident. Its here, and its spewing. I know you have a “kinship” with these types, so I will leave it at that. Just be aware if / when Muzza starts spanking Rafa, the tribe will turn. Until then, they will love Muzza.


contador Says:

@skeezer

Moderation is very different on other sport sites. The successful sites moderate the insults and attacks on posters but critique and opinion of the athlete, star or not, is welcomed – which imo encourages discussion. Personal attacks are simply bullying, gang mentality, something encountered in prison cells, all manner of manipulation, peer pressure and “pandering” to posters labeled as the “good ones” for bending over to the bullies. Disgusting place to be right now, this. But hoping it will improve. Right now it is a copy of Tennistalk.


Danny Morris Says:

what are these unfounded rumours on nadal?

a) doping? google noah

b) dubiuos injuries? google christophe rochus

c) illegal coaching? check commentators during FO 2013 semi-final. toni was talking to nadal non-stop. carillo said it was ridiculos?

d) time violations – done on a very consistent basis

Be glad, the dude doesn’t get roasted for his absolutely disgusting habits on court – in the eye of the public! Tennis writers are too gentle on him. I cant imagine what would happen if a boxer/rugby/american football player kept tugging at his behind every freaking minute.

We know what mem and her ilk of rafa trolls would be saying if it was nole and not rafa with that disgusting habit.

as I mentioned, the love for muzza is because murray never hurt the guy like fed/nole did – you know with the bagels, keeping rafa at no.2 for 3 years at a stretch and nole putting the 7-0 beatdown.

We will see their true colors if and when murray actually consolidates his lone slam and doesn’t become a one slam wonder. If murray were to beat rafa 7 times in a row and keep him at number 2 like nole did, these same rafa “fans” will give murray the same treatment nole gets – creating “humble rafa” like fake monikers to demean nole and roger.


gonzalowski Says:

Skeezer,
It was a Rafa fan (me) who said first it was a false article. I don’t think mem is a Rafa fan, he wanted to get something with that posting.
Paradox, it’s strange to me you to defend ‘mem’… and about racism, well what I said about mediterranean people some of them recognise it about themselves… it’s true it’s not good to generalize.
Well coming this answer from somebody like you it’s like a cumpliment


Margot Says:

@ skeeze
Tut, tut I “get on” with all fair rational fans whoever they support.
Yay I say unto you, even the Berdych ones….
Actually after the “fun” doubles at Queens I find myself oddly warming to Berdych….
No crystal balls for me as to the future of “fake fandom.” I wait to see what will unfold……….


Paradox Says:

It is really interesting to observe some of the Fed tribesmen jumping to Djokoland (the motherof this land’s ruler one called the fedland’s king as dead and once Fedland’s ruler ordered Djokoland’s parents and chieftans to be silent during one of their duels!)when their man is loosing grounds.What a staunch tribemen of Fed.They jump their loyalities like chameleons change their colour.Federer deserves better fans.


Alex Says:

Cant Nadal lose already pls….

For one reason, send these pathetic Rafafanatics home, they keep playing the same old broken record.

This is what happens when you have no life, no hobbies and no common sense. They take there rubbish to what once was a nice site, turning into the homeless rambling spot for the insane Nadal fans lol.

Send them packing pls.

#KeepgivingtheseloonieshellSkeez
#Theflintrafs
#nonsenseasusual
#NadalBestno2ofalltime
#DealwithitorgoCry
#thesebrokenrecordsmustbeeradicated
#banthefools!


Tennis x hippy chic Says:

Alex completely agree although i have to say both sets of fans are as bad as each other,the silly bickering seems to be overshadowing what used to be a great site to come here to talk tennis,please dont inpunge all Rafa fans as been like that,as i always like to think im a fair and reasoned fan.


Giles Says:

Geez! This @DM character does hate Rafa too feverishly. Hey dude shut your filthy mouth already. What’s with all the verbal abuse? Is your home life so frustrating and unhappy that you have to come to an open forum and hurl abuse and insults to a man you don’t even know? So much hatred! I am surprised the moderators don’t ban you from this forum. Enough with the personal attacks on a man you dont even know! You really are an @$$H**E!!


Giles Says:

@alison. SMH. You are just unbelievable!!!


Paradox Says:

Ha ha Alex, frustrated that Nadal has so much much fans than ever imagined?.It was a misconception initially during Nadal’ career made by certain illinformed commentators that he has only Spanish fans,which was found to be an absolute rubbish.In the course of time it became clearly evident that Nadal has fanfare all over the world irrespective of nationality,race or religion.Some Fedfans could not digest the fact that someone else other than Federer can have that much adoration all over the world and became deluded with envy and began to blindly attack Nadal.Thi is the pathogenesis behind certain Fedfans deluded comments.


I Love Tennis Says:

so funny when fans or some fanatics uses the success of their faves just to feel good about themselves .. no matter what they say, the history/records will not change …


nadalista Says:

Where is @TennisZod, @skeezer could do with some of his comic relief, hehehe!!

@Giles, don’t worry about @DM, Rafa has taken residence in his head, hence the need to vent…..

It’s called Vamos Syndrome, the symptoms get worse with each Rafa win.

Relief is only when Rafa loses, hence the feverish prayers for him to lose!

The suffering continues………


grendel Says:

@gonzalowski

mem is definitely a Rafa fan – and fairly obviously a woman I should have thought, b.t.w. What I like about mem – apart from her captivating style, which is largely unconscious (and that’s what gives it the charm) is that her love for Nadal is “pure”. With many Nadal fans, a hatred for Federer and sometimes Djokovic oozes through and utterly contaminates everything they write. I never get that feeling with mem. True, she gets into amazing (and just a little bit funny)argy bargys with individual posters, like skeezer. I have no comment on that particular battle, which is more or less seasonal. But in general, mem just adores her man. I actually don’t think she is interested, one way or the other, in players like Fed and Djoko. So there is a purity in mem’s Nadal attachment – which other fans could well learn from.


contador Says:

Another useless, worn out argument posted to get attention is the Federer fans jumping to Novak and leaving their all-time favorite behind.

Always have liked watching Nole far better than butt-picking, knee-up vamoosing, face contorting, beat up your opponent to win, muscle shirt (in the beginning),time-wasting , ugly forehand tennis of Rafa Nadal. He is a nice enough person off-court but I dislike his tennis.

I like watching many players and of the top four right now it is Djokovic, Murray, and Federer. Nadal is not even on one of my favorite to watch list. And even my all-time favorite is not the most exciting to watch. What peaks my interest much more is the newer players making their way up.

Posters who throw out the jump ship for Nole thing are trolling in a big way or are completely blind. Tend to go with the former theory – and I am not falling for that troll bait again. No need for me or anyone else to defend whom we favor.


nadalista Says:

NB: Rafans do not disappear when Rafa loses…..because we know he will lose some and win some, he always comes back!

Vamos!!


nadalista Says:

“So there is a purity in mem’s Nadal attachment – which other fans could well learn from.”

———————————————–

Tell that to the Fedbots who are always attacking @mem…..


metan Says:

Hey guys, no street fighting. This is wimby. Say something nice about it. Games , court, clothes etc. Get boring with those fighting?? Any other opinions???


grendel Says:

contador – I also can’t abide Nadal’s mannerisms on court. But I must contradict you on the “butt-picking” thing – an ancient canard. If you look closely (well, not too closely…) you’ll see that Nadal is picking at his shorts. I think I know what happens, since I get a similar problem when cycling, but involving the other iffy bit of the anatomy. The shorts or pants cling in an irritating way to the skin, and you keep having the impulse to pull the material away. That is all that Nadal is doing.

“. What peaks my interest much more is the newer players making their way up.” Absolutely, although it is taking an awful long time.. My heart goes with Janowicz and Goffin. I did like Dimitrov, but…..


Paradox Says:

Contador, reaity bites.It seems that many of Nadal haters are still deeply interested in his butt!.Ha ha.Some fed fans stoop so low to tarnish Nadal, but every time Nadal rise up to make the haters even more deluded.


grendel Says:

“Tell that to the Fedbots who are always attacking @mem…..”

You make my point exactly. mem would not use such trolling language.


Tennis x hippy chic Says:

Contador im quite different i love Rafas die hard attitude and fighting spirit,although i dont care for all the ticks and drama that goes with him,although im not one of those fans who cares much for what he does off a tennis court,and i say the same for all players,but like you say its not a crime if a fan doesnt care for a particular player,be a boring old world if we all liked the same things.


Giles Says:

@contador. Word of advice, DO NOT watch Rafa matches. You might burst a blood vessel! Geez!


contador Says:

lol, okay Grendel if you say so. Have thought there should be a law against some, male or female, wearing lycra. :D

Isn’t the butt picking really just that? He as pull something out of ‘there’ or at least touch himself to make sure all is okay.


Giles Says:

@grendel. Since it is not entirely obvious from your posts, not to me anyway, who is your favourite player?


contador Says:

Giles that is a dumb idea. I like who Rafa plays and therefore must watch the ugly to enjoy a favorite…so bugger off with your old worn out advice.


Tennis x hippy chic Says:

Grendel lol to your post i work in care for the elderly,and i am always bending and stretching,g.strings for women were a brilliant invention,its about time they came up with something for men eh?


Paradox Says:

Contador really seems to explain own experience.Lol.


Giles Says:

@contador. So I guess you have to grin and bear it! Must be an arduous task! Enjoy Rafa’s habits!


contador Says:

hello hppy chic. My apologies to you. But the Nadal fans here now are too much. I do not share Grendels love for mem at all. Undying love for one player is not my idea of a fan of the game.

I know your fave is Nadal – but you come here not to troll but to talk tennis.


Giles Says:

@grendel. Thank you so much for educating some critiques of Rafa’s butt picking habit. It is exactly as you explained.


Paradox Says:

Ha ha, Butt watching is enjoyed by certain Fed fans like Contador.


contador Says:

@hippy chic

you are a tennis fan I can see remaining long after Rafa has retired – these other Rafa fans not so much.


Tennis x hippy chic Says:

Contador haha no apology needed,theres alot of players aswell as Rafa that i love to watch too,i love all our Brit guys and gals,love Kie,Tomic,Raonic etc and alot of the up and coming new generation of players are so talented,exciting times ahead.


Tennis x hippy chic Says:

Contador I will remain as long as there is tennis,there will also be the Tennis X Hippy Chic.


Paradox Says:

Nadal is a phenomenon and it is natural for him to have adoring fans eventhough some Fed fans may find it too ripe.Nadal transcends tennis and if he brings many more new fans to tennis,then it is great for tennis.Some like Contador are too much filled with hatred to see this.


grendel Says:

contador

I love your posts, for sure. the thing about a blog is, you get so many different things. I don’t mind someone being obsessively focused on one player providing (s)he doesn’t do this by way of dissing other players. I don’t think mem does, though I can think of quite a few who do.

Still, by and large, I prefer the type of poster – such as yourself – who has a wide ranging tennis interest.

The grass is looking beautifully green, such a picture. An amazingly casual flick by Federer, almost as if in a fit of absence of mind.

I’ll be watching plenty of Federer later, I do right now want to watch Janowicz against newcomer Kyle Edmund. But for reasons beyond me, BBC only showing the Centre Court match and Azarenka. Why? We have ways of making you watch. It’s outrageous. What’s the point of the red button. Anyway, Janowicz is one break up.


skeezer Says:

grendel,
mem has dissed other players. Read our “tat” in earlier posts wrt Novak.
btw “an ancient canard”. When I read that with the morning coffee in my hand i spilled it with a short burst of laughter. A quality moment. Thanks for that ;)


contador Says:

@Grendel

Yes the grass is looking beautifully green and slick! Vika took a nasty slip and twisted a knee, I think but she is up and I think she will win.

I have to get to work, otherwise I would live stream Jerzy – for a giant, I like him a lot but hope he keeps his edge.


Giles Says:

Hahaha. Typical skeezer the geezer. Trying to diss @ mem to @ grendel. What’s your problem man? Can’t bear to hear someone praise a Rafan? #Childish


skeezer Says:

^who’s the stalker? Hehe…

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