Murray, Djokovic Close In On Wimbledon Final; Wimbledon SF Picks And Pans
by Sean Randall | July 4th, 2013, 12:53 pm
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For all the upsets and for all the surprises this fortnight, we are still staring at a pretty interesting Wimbledon men’s semifinal. Top seed Novak Djokovic and Andy Murray remain the clear favorites to meet in a third Grand Slam final in the last 52 weeks, but easier said than done because both have giants standing in their way. Playing the role spoiler Friday are the menacing 6-foot-8 Jerzy Janowicz and 6-foot-6 Juan Martin Del Potro.

On to my picks…

Novak Djokovic vs. Juan Martin Del Potro
The biggest surprise of the Wednesday quarterfinals for me wasn’t Fernando Verdasco nearly pulling off the upset over Murray, it was Juan Martin Del Potro getting up off the turf after hyperextending that suspect left knee early on against David Ferrer. As I watched the reply, it wasn’t the immediate match I was worried about, it was Del Potro’s summer season and the US Open.

The way the big guy is with injuries and seeing his painful expression following the fall, I didn’t think we’d see him back on the court anytime soon. Yet, somehow not only did he get back up he also played some of his best tennis crushing the Spaniard in three tidy sets.

Assuming the knee is better (or not worse), if Delpo can maintain that level he’ll have a crack at Novak. Djokovic look so-so Wednesday in a straight-set win over Tomas Berdych. The Czech was up two breaks in the second and played him tough early on but couldn’t take it when it was there. Delpo has similar firepower but mentally he’s far better than Berdych.

And Delpo has three wins over the Serb including a big one at Wimbledon last year in the Olympic bronze match and their most recent in a three-setter at Indian Wells.

That said, even if Delpo is 100% healthy I like Djokovic here. There’s no Rafael Nadal, no Roger Federer and after the disappointment of the French Novak can make up for it this weekend with a second Wimbledon title. Grass might not be his best surface – neither is it Delpo’s – but like Del Potro he too hasn’t dropped a set but I just think he’s playing better tennis and he needs this more. Perhaps Delpo’s time will come again at the US Open, for now…
The pick: Djokovic in four

Andy Murray vs. Jerzy Janowicz
Murray got his requisite scare yesterday in comeback cliffhanger over an inspired Fernando Verdasco. Even down two sets, watching the contest and taking Fernando’s history into account, you never had the feeling the Spaniard had enough mentally to win the final point. Still, with so much weight in the moment and hte country watching, credit to Murray for getting through what turned into a very tough quarterfinal match.

But Murray would be best advised to avoid going into another deep hole against a bruiser like Janowicz. The 22-year-old Pole is the new star on tour and clearly the best of the new, young bunch thus far. Thanks to his 6’8″ frame he’s got a devastating serve complemented by powerful groundstrokes and above-average movement for a big man. And of course he loves the drop shot. So at a young age the young Jeryz, who I liken to Marat Safin, has got himself quite a toolbox. But it’s not as big as Murray’s.

Murray’s variety really pays off on the grass. He can mix speeds, strokes and angles and that creates a lot of havoc on the low bouncing surface. And with the crowd behind him he’s awfully tough to beat on the lawns. In fact, no one has done so in his last 16 matches on this surface and I don’t think Jerzy will do it here either.

Still, I like Jerzy to keep it close. The “Rifle” beat him in Paris and if he can get his serve and his game clicking, he can reduce even a top tier player like Murray to just bystander. And with the pressure on Murray, his arsenal makes him a very dangerous free swinger, especially on a fast surface like grass. But in the end I think Murray uses his guile and his fans to get through this very dangerous duel.
The pick: Murray in four

While I’ve picked both favorites, Djokovic and Murray, it wouldn’t stun me if the opposite happened. It’s been a weird Wimbledon and as I said, both big men could get hot and take out the higher seeds. Jerzy has the serve and the game to run the table. Del Potro not only has those same weapons but he’s also got the experience having won a Slam and beaten Djokovic on grass.

So it should be quite a morning/afternoon of tennis. Happy 4th to those who celebrate! We’ll get some bonus fireworks on Friday.

FRIDAY WIMBLEDON SCHEDULE

Centre Court 1.00pm Start Time
1. Gentlemen’s Singles – Semi-finals
Novak Djokovic (SRB)[1] v. Juan Martin Del Potro (ARG)[8]
2. Gentlemen’s Singles – Semi-finals
Jerzy Janowicz (POL)[24] v. Andy Murray (GBR)[2]


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699 Comments for Murray, Djokovic Close In On Wimbledon Final; Wimbledon SF Picks And Pans

Tennis Vagabond Says:

Exciting stuff. A sneak preview, perhaps, of the NEXT Big FOur!


Tennis Vagabond Says:

(to be clear, I believe Rafa will be back as a fixture in the semis, with Fed bagging a few more appearances… but they’ll be shuffling off eventually)


Daniel Says:

the only thing I don’t agree is the Novak played “so-so”. Apart from Berdy 3-0 double break (which ne never consolidate as a double break as Djoko broke right back), he looked formidable. You expect Berdy to have a good run and that was those few games. The rest was Djoko showdown. His T serve is working way better and his return keeps getting better, on grass the ball returns even faster and lower.
I can only see him losing this title if Murray serves above 70% first serves on Sunday (to be competiitve). I think DelPo will feel the knees, but with him you never know, especially with Upset in the Air Wimby.


Daniel Says:

Actually, who ever wins will be great for sport:

1 – Djoko
Establish as clear #1 for the year with 2 out of 3 Slams, points away from main rivals setting the season to be #1 all year and a possible US Open to win 3 Slam in a year again (something only Fed could do it), also pass the 100 weeks as #1 mark and a possible 3 year in a row as Year End #1. His win here will be huge for his legacy to come.

2 – Murray
Don’t even need to mention. He would be the most envy man on earth if he wins it in home soil after 75 years without a Brit winning. I will cry like a little baby watching him cry on center court, together with evberybody else.

3 – DelPo
A second Slam in a surface he is not favorite, winnign the most prestigious tourney sustaining an injury beating his main rivlas of his generation. Plus after all injury rpoblems he had before it would be fiting to his talent and prove himself once again. Will place him as co-favorite for another US open as well and spice things for the remaining year. Also beating Djoko will prevent Djoko domination as #1, with Nadal and Murrya still on contention.

4 – Jerzy
Imagine in this era a giant serving bomb winning Wimbledon at 22 years old betaing world #2 and possibli #1 back to back in the boggest stage there is? Would be huge for sport and all up and comers and this will seal the change of guard and end of FEDAL for good, when even a not top 20 can win a Slam, something we haven’t seen in more than a decade.


Tennis x hippy chic Says:

IMO last year was a great year for tennis,as the GS were shared out with a different player winning each one,domination is great for a year,like Rafa did in 2010,and Novak in 2011,and as much as i admire and respect Federer and his achievements,to do it repeatedly is overkill,so i would really love to see a repeat of last year with a new player winning each GS,not one player dominating the whole season,so im pulling for a new Wimbledon champion,my two cents and no disrespect to any one particular player.


grendel Says:

Janowicz looks rather like Safin.But the way he has burst upon the scene is more reminiscent of the 17 year old Becker. Even though he’s 22; times are different. One question mark: where is he emotionally? This matters – look at how surprise semi-finalist Flipkens just disintegrated. She was a shadow of the player who beat Kvitova.
Janowicz was hyperventilating in a disturbing fashion when interviewed immediately following his defeat of his fellow Pole. Hope he’s recovered his cool.


Okiegal Says:

@ Tennis Vagabond

We’ll all be shuffling off……..eventually.


Danny Morris Says:

This should give us a good idea of whether Wimbledon has slowed down or not.

In the 90s, I would have taken janowicz and delpotro, but on this green-clay-wimbledon, you know that the ball-fetcher murray will get through an exciting prospect like Jerzy. These slowing down the surfaces has killed the spirit of many big-hitters like Berdych, Gulbis, Tsonga and the likes. In the 90s, each of them would have won one slam and berdych and tsonga might even have had multiple slams.

Sad as it is, jerzy will be worn down by the defensive ball-pusher. I will be rooting for JJ to repeat a dose of paris indoors to lady forehand and set up an exciting final with Nole.

Nole in less than 4 against delpo and lady forehand to do his usual ball-pushing to frustrate JJ like he did to nando.

For tennis’ sake, it is imperative JJ shows the world that shot-makers will rule over defensive players at Wimbledon, even in these slow conditions. Federer/djokovic did the best they can to stop defensive players like claydal and murray. Since 2006. Fed won 4 Wimbledons and nole 1. the other 2 have been eked out by the defensive ball-pusher club.

Come on Nole, Delpotro and JJ, let us win Wimbledon for the shot-maker’s club!


Goat Galz Says:

DM It just boggles the mind. These pushers are getting away with it and getting paid royally for it. Oh, how the world will miss Roger! Novak is the second best now to start filling those shoes.
Bye Dolls


Pitchaboy Says:

The opposite is about o happen.


Pitchaboy Says:

Would love Delpo to take this as his knee may not handle the hard courts.


mem Says:

Daniel,

it’s so funny how fedfans are so desparate for novak to win nowadays, you among them. it always goes back to the same old story, “fear” that nadal will equal or surpass roger; and as a result, novak is needed to save tennis from a nadal domination while simultaneously saving roger’s legacy of “the greatest ever.” you guys were never this interested in whether novak won or lost. arent you a fedfan? it’s clear that desperate times call for desperate measures. the essence of competition in tennis has been lost; now it is all about doing whatever necessary for a certain player to remain ahead. what a sad reality!


Ben Pronin Says:

Mem, not everyone likes the sport because of one and only one player.


skeezer Says:

^AMEN!!


skeezer Says:

@mem

Really? Check the other thread on Delpo…hehe.(kettle/black)

I have stated long long time ago about my stand on Nole. Has nothing to do with ANY records. You types are always tryin to make that tie in. Its about the playing style and substance of the player for me.


Danny Morris Says:

LOL! Ben, you are trying to reason with mem? What university did you go to again? I hope you didn’t get your stats degree in University of Phoenix or keiser university.

mem: CVS just called, they said you haven’t picked your meds in the last 2 months. please do tennis-x a favor and collect them. I can send you some money, if that is the issue.

Read this and weep mem: Nole will overtake rafa in goat list by end of 2016. Go wager a few dollars on this. you can thank me when you get to collect the returns in 2016.


Danny Morris Says:

Fed fans like nole because he is a shot-maker like Federer. Granted there are minor differences like fed is the more all-court player and nole’s defence is better than fed’s. fed’s serve is better and nole’s return is better than fed’s. fed’s forehand is the greatest forehand of all-time. nole’s backhand is the greatest backhand of all time.

too bad, nole doesn’t suck on grass/hardcourts/indoors like claydal does and also doesn’t have to rely on clay to win about 70% of his majors and titles!


Sidney Says:

My picks: Nole and Andy in 3 sets.

Delpo needs to be play near-perfect tennis to beat Nole. Nole does not need his best game to beat Delpo.

The same is true for the Andy-Jerzy match.


Wog boy Says:

If I can add something, ling time ago some Fedfns stated that Nole is their second player (madmax, skeezer, contador even dave etc) and that was the time when Federer was still on top and didn’t need Nole to protect his records, Andy’s fans said the same (they know who they are).
I have never seen Rafafan stated the same, wonder why?


Wog boy Says:

“long” not “ling”


Wog boy Says:

“…the essence of competition in tennis has been lost; now it is all about doing whatever necessary for a certain player to remain ahead. what a sad reality!”

Did you mean Rafa, considering the way he is playing every tournament during CC season … The way like there is no tomorrow?


skeezer Says:

^yes! Talking about getting it all wrong.


Sidney Says:

@mem, yes very sad but true for a lot of posters on this forum.

Which is not all bad in my opinion. What’s wrong with hoping/wishing for the best for your fave, and the worst for their rivals?

I wouldn’t wish for Andy to win the next 10 majors. Absolutely not! It may be fun times for Andy fans, but terrible for me. I want him to fold and lose all matches from this point on. Like what his namesake Roddick did against Roger.

—-
“the essence of competition has been lost..”
Huh? For us fans maybe, but not for the players thank god.


Wog boy Says:

To add to my 7:30pm post. I know quite a few Nole fans that Rafa is their second favorite, as the matter of fact I was one of them until 2010 WTF … well, nobody is perfect.
If you wonder why he is not my second player any more, it is then that I realise that Humble Rafa is not so humble, at least Federer never pretended to be one.


mat4 Says:

Hi, WB, Alison, Ben, Skeezer, Grendel. Nice to see you are all here.

Grendel:

I tend to think that Safin was a better player, although very different from Janowicz. I have to admit, though, that I didn’t watch him here, as I manage to catch only a few sets here and there.

WB:

Nadal’s personality always intrigued me a lot. I think he is genuinely humble, but humility is different from one culture to another. And let’s not forget that he is the product of a culture that values victory and pride very much.

What I don’t like… his gamesmanship, evident from time to time, the way he is focused only on his rights, problems, something that was obvious when he was an influential member of the player’s council, all the negative facets of the “victory at all costs” philosophy he is imbued.


Danny Morris Says:

“If you wonder why he is not my second player any more, it is then that I realise that Humble Rafa is not so humble, at least Federer never pretended to be one.”

Well said WB! Whatever flaws Fed has, he is not a fake/phony like rafa. Nole, delpo, gulbis, jerzy, none of them are fakes.

I will tell you why rafa fans hate Nole.

outside clay:

Nole: 6slams, 2WTF, 10masters

claydal: 4 slams, 0 WTF, 6 masters

The can keep denying but claydal is 3rd best outside clay – that is where Fedalovic play 75% of their tournaments.

Federer fans like nole because he has the best non-clay record after Fed. Fed is quite awesome on clay and would definitely handle everyone except borg or guga with a lot of ease, and possibly run guga/borg real close, but still Fed fans don’t care much for clay, not many tennis fans except rafa fans do. If they did FO would not be considered the 3 most important slam by most atp players past and present!

Some one please explain me rafa fans supporting murray? i mean murray sucks on clay. why would you like he more than your real rivals on clay – Fed [2005-2011] or nole [last 2years].


mem Says:

Ben,

and not everyone jump on another bandwagon and wish for the demise of a certain player simply because their favorite player is not what he once was.

it’s no secret who i support and i don’t try to pretend otherwise. what i can’t stand are you guys pretending to be all cozy and lovey dovey with novak all of a sudden when i know full well the main reason is not because you are loving more than one player but because novak is a means to an end for you guys. correct me if im wrong, but use to be you were all about roger federer winning. it’s rather funny how you have developed this great attitude and genuine support for other players once roger started to lose more; however, it’s good to know that you now love the sport because of more than one player. i hope to follow your example one day!


Wog boy Says:

I knew it, if it is not courbon then it is mat4. With two friends like you I don’t need enemies..
mat4, I guees you know what I am talking about when I am talking 2010 WTF, that exactly fits what you said:

“What I don’t like… his gamesmanship, evident from time to time, the way he is focused only on his rights, problems, something that was obvious when he was an influential member of the player’s council, all the negative facets of the “victory at all costs” philosophy he is imbued.”


Danny Morris Says:

“What I don’t like… his gamesmanship, evident from time to time, the way he is focused only on his rights, problems, something that was obvious when he was an influential member of the player’s council, all the negative facets of the “victory at all costs” philosophy he is imbued.”

Dont get me started on this. Claydal has broken every possible rule that is out there. I am glad nole changed his attitude towards MTOs and retirements. I still don’t think he should have retired from davis cup [2times] and FO and AO, but he seems to have put it behind him for good.

The new generation has abused injuries/MTOs so much that the ATP is competing with WTA on the injuries front. Federer has never retired in 1100+ matches. Ofcourse he takes the odd bathroom break, but I don’t know how many times and what times he has used such a break. The 1st time I saw him take the break was in 2010 AO against davydenko.

In any case, Federer’s 8 sportsmanship awards and off-court rep with brands/corporate world speak loudly for his squeaky clean personality. not perfect, none of the players are, but arguably the best. As an example, Gillette renewed only Fed’s contract out of the 3 original signees. Woods was dropped for his pig-like behaviour and henry for his form, i think.


Danny Morris Says:

mem:

please take your meds! the amount of ignorance you bring with your posts is embarrassing. please dont claim yourself to be a fan of tennis. i cant bear to be watching a sport that dolts like you watch!


Danny Morris Says:

the irony is you pretending to be Ben’s shrink! ROFL!

I don’t agree with a lot of stuff ben says, but the guy is no wagon-jumper like grendel and jane.

please don’t take grendel’s babble about you being a “loyal” fan too seriously.

you are more of a psycho fan. I wouldn’t be surprised if you keep stalking rafa and keep making posts from rafa’s home in mallorca! I wish tennis-x displayed IPs of the posters.

we could find out if da/mem/zod/volley are the same heads of the hydra monster!


Ben Pronin Says:

Mem, I have rooted for Djokovic ever since he burst onto the scene in late 06/early 07. But I was still a bigger Federer fan back then. After 08, I said I’d start rooting for Djokovic as my primary guy once Federer broke Sampras’s slam record. But it took me some time to root for him over Federer when they faced each other. Nowadays, I lean towards Djokovic more often. I know what group of guys you’re referring to who jump on Novak’s bandwagon because he stops Nadal. I’m not gonna say it doesn’t make me happy, but I rooted for Novak way back when he was still getting whooped by Rafa in all of their big matches and building himself a 4-14 h2h against him.

Also, Djokovic winning this Wimbledon inches him ever so slightly towards Nadal’s slam count. But a +1 for Djokovic isn’t a -1 for Nadal. Nadal already lost and will remain at 12 until he wins his next one. It has no bearing on the remaining results of this Wimbledon.


Ben Pronin Says:

DM, how is Jane a band-wagon-er? She has been rooting for Djokovic since the beginning.


mat4 Says:

@WB:

I don’t know for certain what you mean about the WTF 2010. Was it about the lenses?


andrea Says:

if verdasco can push murray to five sets, i think jerzy can, if he keeps nerves in check. i guess with juan martin it will depend on his leg as to how well he can play.


Wog boy Says:

^^^
Yes, about lenses and Rafa’s reaction on Nole’s problems. His complains to umpire that Nole takes to much time to put back lenses (can you imagine him, serial ofender, complaining about other player taking too much time), but worst was his facial expressions when he was talking (complaining) to upmire or looking at Nole. Everything was about victory and only victory by any means and he got it at the end but lost me, not that he cares anyway. He has tens of millions of fans around the globe.


mem Says:

Wog Boy,

rafa playing mostly on clay has nothing to do with what im talking about. whether a player plays the majority of their matches on clay, hardcourt or grass, the nature of competition does not change. when i say the essence of competition has been lost, i am referring to the core of competition; those things that make competition what it is; for example, the spirit in which players compete; work ethics, fair play, making adjustments, triumphing over challenges, players winning on their own merit as opposed to things (surfaces, balls, whatever) being changed to make it easier for certain players to win. in other words, i firmly believe in raising the bar so that players are forced to work harder to get better rather than always suggesting that the bar should be lowered so that more players will have chances to win. that’s not what competition is in my book. maybe this will help clear up what i meant.


Kimberly Says:

Danny Morris-why do we leave out clay results when it is a legitimate surface where professional tennis is played. Nadal fans can come up with selective facts too, like the combined record of federer/djoker against claydal at rand garros, uh would that be 0-10?

He’s good on clay. Better than he is on other surfaces. Doesn’t make his greatness any less legitimate


mem Says:

Danny,

you are too funny my friend! did you say you can’t bear watching a sport that dolts like me watch? im feeling you dude, and i don’t blame you, but does that mean you are leaving forever and ever and we won’t hear from you again. oh happy day!


Danny Morris Says:

” DM, how is Jane a band-wagon-er? She has been rooting for Djokovic since the beginning.”

Ben: I already made a long post on Jane from the days of federer,safin, roddick and hewitt. It is on one of the other blogs. The gist is, I have known Jane since those days when she made a lot of comments on Federer’s arrogance, even his relation with Mirka and all sorts of stuff. Her and grendel are very confused regarding who they like or not like. nothing wrong, I don’t think either have played tennis or very knowledgeable about tennis and hence they do end up supporting a lot of players and I don’t think it can be called being an objective fan, because an objective fan uses his tennis knowledge and when necessary can grade/rank players and their achievements. fans who are confused are indecisive and end up supporting every odd player because they can’t fathom what they see on the tennis court. They are also bandwagoners – you can say unintentional bandwagoners!

I will see if I can find the other blog where I listed out why I think Jane is a bandwagoner, but it pretty much says the same stuff as above.

Kimberly:

If clay matters a lot to you, please keep posting stats about clay and players’ achievements on clay. I have never cared much for clay as I started watching tennis on grass with graff/becker/edberg/sampras and I play on hardcourts. Of all the tennis champs, clay champs are the most different lot – often doing nothing on the surfaces I care. In the last 2o years, I think only 2 multi-slam champs from FO – claydal and courier have done anything outside it. Even courier was more a hard-courter who tasted success on clay than other way round.

I have no problem listening to you telling me Nadal’s h2h against federer/nole. In fact I, myself point it out to show how nadal’s relative lack of ability outside clay meant that federer and nole end up playing nadal 50% of the time on clay.

so, feel free to post nadal’s numbers on clay. and federer’s and djokovic’s. frankly, outside clay nadal, as pointed out is comfortably 3rd.

mem:

I will not speak to you until you have picked your meds from CVS. Don’t make them send you to the asylum!


James Says:

I wonder how many titles Novak has outside the HCs. Just curious. Does anyone know?


Danny Morris Says:

Nole has a great shot at overtaking Nadal’s over-all numbers too.

12 slams to 6, 102 weeks to 89 weeks at no.1, 2 year end no.1s for both, 2WTF for nole 2 0 for nadal.

Above all, nole stock is on the rise. I am positive he is going to slam-dunk nadal’s numbers in the next couple of years.


Ben Pronin Says:

DM, you are not an objective fan. At all.


James Says:

Everyone’s expecting a Murray-Djokovic final. It would be funny if the final is played between Del Potro and Jerzy. Unlikely to happen though


Danny Morris Says:

James:

How many ever he has, they will be proportionate with the ATP calendar and not as skewed as nadal’s numbers – he has basically accumulated 70% of his title on a surface where top players play only 30% of the year.

Nothing wrong, but doesn’t show the completeness that Federer/Nole/Sampras exhibit.

Nole has 8 titles on clay, 1 on Grass and 28 on hardcourts


skeezer Says:

Re;9:14 post

Please all read. This is the post of the delusional Rafafanatic, This reveals the cult at its core. This is not a tennis fan. This is someone who wants to talk about Rafa, no one else, poster of an Armani clad Rafa poster in the bedroom, etc,..
Notice how every post has to somehow benifit the Rafa Koolaid syndrome.

“the spirit in which players compete; work ethics, fair play..”

So laughable.

#exposed


Vidzy Says:

Can somebody please tell me what time approx will the women’s final be played ?


Danny Morris Says:

I never claimed to be an objective fan. I am a sports fan and I will exercise my right to dislike any player ;)


Danny Morris Says:

how did you get 9, ben?


Ben Pronin Says:

Nadal only has 15 non-clay.
Federer has 25 outside hard (carpet is it’s own surface).
For comparison, sorta: Agassi had 14 non-hard (7 on clay) and Sampras had 28 non-hard (3 on clay).


Danny Morris Says:

Federer 52 on hard, 10 on clay and 13 on grass and 3 on carpet I believe.


Danny Morris Says:

2 on carpet! not 3 for Fed!


Ben Pronin Says:

8 clay + 1 grass = 9 titles not on hard courts.


Danny Morris Says:

outside HCs? ok…


James Says:

@mem, if you read their posts, it’s not too difficult to see who are genuine Novak fans. @Ben for instance, I believe is a fair and genuine Novak fan. A lot of them may not like Nadal for whatever reason and that’s cool. If everyone liked Rafa, I might start rooting for another player. It’s good to have fans of different players.


Danny Morris Says:

Let’s remember that in a year, top players play a max of 20 tournaments.

3/4 clay [4/5for nadal], 2 on grass, remaining 14-15 tournaments on hard.

So nole winning 75% of his titles on a surface that all players play 75% is in accordance with a complete player.

Federer wins about 65-70% on HC, 16% on grass and 15% on clay.

nadal wins 75% on clay [tour plays 25%] and 5% on grass and 20% on a surface that the players spend 70% of the tournaments on!


James Says:

Thanks for the stats @Ben and @DM.


Humble Rafa Says:

I still remember the prediction of me being the favorite for Wimbledon. It stings. Atleast it was on grass.


James Says:

@DM, how did you decide that tennis played 75% of times on the HCs and 20% or 25% on clay? Any legitimate source to back your claim? Or is it your own assumption? I’m asking this because I have heard some people say tennis is played 35-40% of times on clay as per the ATP. I don’t know what the correct % really is for clay and HCs.


James Says:

@Humble Rafa, they say it’s 23% clay underneath the grass at Wimby. So, remember this next year if your knee allows you to play the tournament.


Danny Morris Says:

@james

Clay got 1 slam and 3 masters. Actually fed plays only 1slam+ 2masters in a typical year. Rafa plays 1slam + 3 masters + barcelona. novak plays 1 slam + 3 masters.

Grass – top players generally play warm up + wimbledon. nole has stopped playing a warm-up since 2011, i think

top players play 4 slams+8/9 masters + 1WTF + 4/5 500s/250s.

so the numbers are taken from that.


Daniel Says:

@mem,

I will be here posting long after Fed and Djoko and Murray retires. I am a Fed fan and I like gretness in sports. That’s why I admire Nadal 8th RG and 9 consecutive years winning Slams, a record he stands alone. Also appreciated Djoko’s run in 2011. That was amaxzing.
And what I post is nothingq but the true of what him winning here could imply. If he finishes this year with 8 Slams, third year end #1 and being number 1 for a complete calendar year, he is just gqonna clmb up his goat staus in that select list.

Back in 2006 me and Jane were posting here and she was not into Fed because he was dominating, she cheer for Rafa because he didn’t fold until Djoko showed up.
I like Djoko’s game a lot by the reasons DM showed and Murray when he plays agressive is briliant. He oozes talent and to him things look efortless. He has the best slice for a 2 handed backhand ever.
Nadal’s game is the one I have problem with because I just imagine myself playing againt it and is the worst game to play against believe me I admire greatness and even payed to see him play live in RG last year because I will be able to tell my grandchildren in 50 years when Nadal’s record on clay will still be intact: you should have seen Nadal on clay, no one could touch him.

But I think too that Djoko will soon overtake him in the GOAT debate similar to what people were saying about Federer when he had 7 Slams to Sampras 14. Of course, me, DM and a few others can be wrong but that’s why I said thtis Wimby is vital for Djoko future plans.

But the ones wo looked really desperate are Rafa fanatics because every win Djoko has, every more week as #1 brings him closer to Nadal.
For us Fed fasn after 2011 the race was pretty much safe. Djoko rise, prevent Nadal sucess which is true and Fed adding 17 almost lock the deal.
We are calm as ever because things are under control.
In the other hand Nadal fanatics looks desperate because every non clay Slam Nadal loses brings him further awya from Fed, and every one Djoko’s wins brings him closer to Nadal.
In fact if Djoko wins this Wimby and 1 more and Nadal doesn’t win anymore Wimby, Djoko would be greater everywhere apart from clay. 3 Wimby titles is better than 2 Wimby titles and 3 runner ups. The Slam count and winning 1 RG will be the only thing between them. But for example if Djoko ends with 10 or 11 Slams, Nadal 12 and Djoko having 3 wimby and 1 RG in the process some (me and DM probably:), will say Djoko already have a case. We are looking at 3players who may end their careers betwen top 5 in the GOAT list. Every win and defeta matters.

So I understand your frustation and we are here to help, anyway we can!


Danny Morris Says:

“This is someone who wants to talk about Rafa, no one else, poster of an Armani clad Rafa poster in the bedroom, etc,..”

LOL! I am sure there is a poster of uncle toni, too :)


Danny Morris Says:

Great post Daniel! Well said, there is no probs saying Nadal is the GOAT on clay, but unfrotunately, rafa fans will not extend the same courtesy to Federer and Nole. They use the H2H belittle their achievements. The H2H when analysed, shows the same thing – Nadal being great on clay but not being good enough to play Fed/nole as often on their favorite surfaces.

“Back in 2006 me and Jane were posting here and she was not into Fed because he was dominating, she cheer for Rafa because he didn’t fold until Djoko showed up.”

Thank you. I clearly remember Jane supporting rafa before moving on to Nole. In essesnce, she has rooted for safin, roddick, rafa, nole and murray too. LOL! It is quite obvious what this says. She will keep being in denial that she has been fair to Federer, over the years. I am sure old-time fed fans are not buying this hogwash!


James Says:

It would be wonderful for a lot of fans if Novak can get to 12 Slams or more before he is done with tennis. Those of you that believe he will eventually surpass Nadal in Slam titles, I like your (over) confidence in Novak.

By the way, is there a term for winning career slam + WTF like say ‘Calendar Slam’ for winning career slam + olympic gold?

P.s.- I think Rafa Nadal has some more slam titles in him.


James Says:

“We are looking at 3players who may end their careers betwen top 5 in the GOAT list.”

You may find it hard to believe but Rafael Nadal of Spain has already made it to the top 5 in the GOAT list, according to several/most tennis ‘experts’, current and former players. Some are already calling him the GOAT, which is not true. Not yet. So the question is, will Novak make it to that list too? He sure can. Will he? We don’t know yet.


Vidzy Says:

Federer is currently the GOAT without a shadow of a doubt. Reason ? Domination on grass , hard courts , carpet , clay during his prime :

1) Federer : Hard court slam finals : 11
Wins : 9
Nadal : Hard court slam finals : 4
Wins : 2
2) Federer : Grass court slam finals : 8
Wins : 7
Nadal : Grass court slam finals : 5
Wins : 2
3) Federer : Clay Court court slam finals : 5
Wins : 1 ( Only lost to Rafa )
Nadal : Clay court slam finals : 8
Wins : 8 ( Clay court GOAT )
4) Federer : Indoors WTF Finals : 8
Wins : 6
Nadal : Indoors WTF Finals : 1
Wins : 0

Besides this Federer has many other records which Rafa will never break :

1) 237 consecutive weeks at no 1
2) 24 consecutive finals won in a row
3) 56 hard court winning streak
4) 65 grass court winning streak
5) Most weeks spent at World no 1 (Djoko might break this )
6) reaching finals of all 4 slam finals for 3 years.

Now Rafa fans please just dont bring H2H always into discussion > Santoro also had a 7-2 winning record over Safin. So does it make him a better player than Marat ?


James Says:

@Vidzy,

5) Olympics:

Roger Federer: Silver
Rafael Nadal: Gold

Did I say Rafa is the GOAT? I wouldn’t because he isn’t. But should he equal Roger’s slam (I don’t know if he will), I think he’d be consider greater than Federer.
And btw, it does mean something to have a superior h2h against the top players of your time.


mem Says:

Daniel,

if you say so!


James Says:

Marat Safin won a Slam. Santoro never did, never even came close to doing it. Rafa, unlike Santoro, is a 12 time slam winner, a career golden slam winner.


courbon Says:

@Wog Boy:Are youn implaying that I stab you in the back?I almost sound like some Obrenovic descendant…Just joking.I remember WTF final.it was not coll from Nadal but I guess everybody sometimes are a***holes.I think Nadal has that perfect ‘humble’ image and sometimes he would like to get anger and frustration out, but it can’t for the sake of image.He still looks to me like a decent guy.I do prefer Federer personality-slightly arrogant but more genuine.Even my favourite Novak is bit of a attention seeker but quite genuine, so there we go.
sometimes we forget that this are quite young guys with personalites and caracters still forming ( and in front off whole world )so I tend to go easy on them.
Even Bedrych looks like he is changing!He was cool playing exhibition in Queens and day ago when he lost, he was waiting for Novak before leaving a court ( players do that less and less ) which is nice gesture.
You are right about Nadals fans-none ever support Novak and most of them hate Nole.I guess because he is Nadals main rival now…
Regarding mat 4-I think he should be downgraded to mat 3.You can’t trust French…


skeezer Says:

RE: MEM

“if you say so!”

The classic saying from the one who is wrong sooo many times and can’t contest the other’s opinion!

Sorry, but these types of false tennis fans need to be exposed.

#rafaornobody
#postingonlyrafa
#armanismywetdream
#HR…help!


skeezer Says:

“Murray, Djokovic Close In On Wimbledon Final; Wimbledon SF Picks

Yes this thread has ( should ) have nothing to do with Fedal.

Am picking Nole all the way. Murray has to prove me wrong with that weak FH and @2nd serve display against Hot Sauce. Hopefully Lendl gives him a whoopin on that, and corrects all that for the next match. Otherwise, Nole is gonna get another Wimby title!

Delpo? Who is not gonna cheer against him. Class act and the biggest loveable guy in the game. Wimby has never been so fun!


Daniel Says:

@James,

That’s why I pointed out that they may finish because depending on Djoko and Nadal who is above who may change. You are right, Fed and Nadal are already on that list. But what many Nadal fans are forgetiing because for Fd used to be Sampras 14 is how tou get there. If Nadal reaches 17 with 13 RG and the same amount of Wimbledons (2), AO (1) and US Open (1), if he manages his schedule to basically play on clay, do you really think people will consider him better than Federer jus because he tied Slams number with a domination on clay beyond beyond.
Tennis experts were acolading Fed in GOAThood when he had 9 Slams in end of 2007 because he had multiple Slams in 3 of them and he won 9 out of 14.


Michael Says:

A guy like Janowicz has earned by appreciation for working all the way up from the bottom of the ladder. I read the news that he was not able to afford shoes for the US Open and had no money to purchase tickets to go to Australia for participating in the major held there. In a presumably rich man’s sport, to be in poverty is a sin. But Janowicz had the latent talent in him to come all the way up in such a sport despite his financial problems which speaks volumes about his indomitable will, perseverance, determination and positive mindset. It is relatively easy to have all the facilities at your disposal and come to the top, but it is obviously tough to do so when there is lack of infrastructure and money to support your endeavour. Janowicz is one of that kind who has cemented a place for himself at the top despite all the adverse circumtances that were ranged against him. He is now breathing easy after all the struggle in his life and it is nice to know that he is in the semi final. My sympathies are with this guy and if he manages to win Wimbledon which is still a long shot, I will be very happy for him.


Michael Says:

Well yet again I have to go with Sean picks, except that in the case of Murray Vs Janowicz, I once again anticipate a Marathon match over five sets. Janowicz has the game to upset Murray’s applecart. He has done that before at Parry’s Masters and he can well do it again if he manages to get his first serves clicking right from the start. Ofcourse he is no match for Andy’s all court game which is a class in itself. But, tis is Grass court and a good serving day will invite trouble for the opponent. So, this match according to me would be teetering to the brink and I expect Andy to scrape through in the end. He has the edge. But it will be tiny. 55:45 in favour of Murray is my judgement.


Michael Says:

As regards Novak Vs Del Potro, unless there is a complete collapse of Novak’s game, I do not see Del Potro troubling him especially when he has physical issues bothering him. But this match is bound to be interesting considering that Del Potro is no push over and he can trouble Novak if he plays his “A” game. But judging so far from the form of Novak, it is difficult to foresee an upset. I would say 65:35 in favour of Novak.


James Says:

@courbon, most sensible post I’ve read this week on the forum.

I’m a Rafa fan but can see things for what they are. Because that’s the way I am in real life. I feel the same as you do about Rafa, Roger and Novak. Rafa isn’t always humble, at least on the court. Off the court, he comes across as a nice, shy guy. Roger too is nice but can be a little arrogant at times. I can understand it though as I think he finds it hard to accept defeat more than most other players do. So it’s tougher for him to give credit to an opponent who defeats him than say Novak or Rafael. Novak sometimes looks almost desperate to be liked and accepted. But having followed him on twitter for years, I think he’s a nice guy and slowly learning to show his passion and enthusiasm in a way that’s not seen as arrogance by fans of other players.

What people also tend to forget is that they are all from different parts of Europe, with different worldviews and different personalities. Of the 3 I’ve always thought that Novak is the one most misunderstood. Believe it or not, I disagreed with some of my friends when they said Novak is arrogant. Novak very much like Rafa, no matter how painful the defeat, always gives credit to his opponents.


James Says:

“Novak very much like Rafa, no
matter how painful the defeat, always gives credit to his opponents.”

This is something I admire a lot about both Nadal and Djokovic. I hate losing and have always found it hard to accept defeat. In my younger days, after a defeat, I wouldn’t sleep but practice all night. If a rubbish player like me can find it hard to accept defeat, I can imagine how hard it must be for those considered the best in the world.


metan Says:

Michael.

I love your post at 12.24am. Sweeeeet!!
I am going to root for him and kei for new comer.


mem Says:

skeezer,

so you are taking it upon yourself to expose certain posters, i only hope you will began with YOURSELF.

just for the record, “if you say so” is a classic way of making a long story short when responding to a bunch of nonsense written by a poster who is apparently guilty as charged. sometimes i use it depending on whether im in the mood to read long posts or not. so now you know!


James Says:

@Michael, I didn’t know that about Jerzy. If that’s true, I’m rooting for the guy and hope that he pulls off a miracle, winning the Wimbledon. Maybe it’s his tough road to the top 50 that has made him such a tough, determined player. Hope his hunger for success doesn’t fade away after a few titles.


Margot Says:

Really hoping for an Andole final, but as per usual a nervous wreck about the Andy part.
Hoping he plays a load better than against Verdasco and his A game is clicking.
Let’s Go Andy, the Diamond from Dunblane!
Come on!


Michael Says:

Metan/James,

Thanks. Many do not know the personal side of Janowicz. His life is really a struggle. This Wimbledon is definitely a break through in his career after the BNP Paribas Masters where unfortunately he lost in the finals. At Wimbledon, he has already achieved more than he would have dreamt of by reaching the semi-finals and now he can afford to cut loose. If that clicks, Andy will be in danger.


James Says:

@Michael, just read more about it. Sharing the link for anyone interested to know more about JJ.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/tennis/jerzy-janowicz-profile-6ft-8in-2024574

I know he’s the biggest underdog going into the semi final, but will root for the guy. I hope he plays his heart out against Murray. Hope he continues playing high level tennis and leave his financial crisis days far behind. Kudos to his family for believing in him too and supporting him.


pogi Says:

My prediction… JerZy and DelPo in the finals (just dont know what year)… maybe this year?


James Says:

@Daniel, if Nadal equals Roger’s no. of slam titles without winning more non clay slams, he wouldn’t be the GOAT in my book either. He is my favorite but he’ll have to earn that GOAThood, if he is to get there. I am happy with what he’s already achieved and whether he surpasses Roger or not, he’ll always be my favorite player. I’m happy to have seen both Roger and Rafael play tennis. Maybe someday I’ll say the same about Novak too. For me it’s still too early to call Novak one of the GOATs (let’s say top 5). Novak will have to earn his spot there. I think he can and he should.


Tennisfan Says:

Nole is a useless one dimensional pony. He has won 5 out of his 6 slams on hard i. e 83% slams on hard. Nadal has one 8 of his 12 slams on clay i.e 66%. Numbers don’t lie. Nadal is a much better all court player than Nole.


Michael Says:

James,

Thanks for the link.

As regards GOAThood, will this issue ever be settled one way or other ? Who is fit for the acronym “GOAT” ? Right from time immemorial, there are many players who are vying for this ultimate honour. Laver, Rosewall, Bill Tilden, Lew Hoad of the Amateur era and Borg, Sampras, Roger, Rafa in the modern Tennis Age of Professional era. Laver who had the highest success rate amongst his peers won each of his calendar grand slams in the Amateur as well as Professional era. But his unique achievement can be contested by justifiably arguing that Laver had it easy considering that apart from the French which was played on Clay, the other three majors were played on Grass courts. So, the transition was a lot easier than it is easy today when each of the major are having different surface. More so, Tennis was not as competitive and commercialized as it is today. Insane prize money and glamour has taken Tennis to the next level by making it more technically savvy and attracting talent thereby adding depth to the game than ever before. So, it would be futile to compare Generations. 100 years from now, we do not know how Tennis would evolve and presumably then questions might be raised about the competitiveness of the current era with advancements made then. So, that would be a never ending argument. If you ask me, I would say that in terms of achievements we can bifurcate Tennis into two eras – Amateur and Professional. Laver was the highly successful in the Amateur era and Roger will be justifiably regarded as highly successful in Modern or Professional era by virtue of his achievements which remain unparalleled so far. However on Clay courts, it would be a different story with Rafa being poles apart and one kind of a player. Therefore, instead of GOAT we can might well say that Roger is the highly successful player in the modern era than such acronyms like GOAT which can only trigger controversy and never ending debates as perceptions vary and everyone have their opinion. I would also like to point out that earlier even I hailed Roger as GOAT in this forum and that deservingly invited war of words from naysayers. So, why make a controversy out of nothing when GOAT is not a title which is conferred but only a subject of never ending debate ??


metan Says:

@ James. Thanks for the link.

I just wondering why players from eastern europe like to tear their t-shirt after winning a match??? Is it their custom ??? Nole and JJ did.

I found it was really weird.


Michael Says:

Tennis Fan,

Novak has won Madrid, Rome and Monte Carlo beating Rafa. Is that a signature or stamp of a one dimensonal player ? Well you also know that Novak is the only player who gives frights to Rafa even on Clay. We know the last semi final at Rolland Garros where Rafa was stretched to the limit by Novak and he had a very hard fought win. Even in 2012 finals, Novak showed his prowess on Clay by extending Rafa. So this attempt of yours to prove that Novak is just a one dimensional player will fall flat considering the empirical evidence favouring Novak.


Michael Says:

Metan,

It is just a football culture which has been impersonated in Tennis !! Whether it is desirable ? I have no answer. It is better they are tearing only their own shirts than their opponents.


metan Says:

Another great post by Michael at 3.02am.

I careless about goat as long as both guys are playing I am happy with that. Don’t we watch they entertain us with their games??


Michael Says:

Thanks Metan !!

Let us enjoy what these personalities deliver on and off the Courts instead of indulging in mindless acronyms in the name of devotion towards a particular player.


van orten Says:

Oh oh…hope u all will not be dissapointed if djoker nor Murray 1) fail to reach the Finals and
2) fail To win over 10 slams… Fed and nadal spoiled you all..djoker and even Murray would be happy stop winning slams right now..but not their Fans..because they believe they are better and deserve More …but the New Generation of players are catching up…it is OK..no go and scalp me but There is only one goat and one clay goat…hahahaha


Tennisfan Says:

Michael – please look at the slam count. Rafa has a much better ratio outside his favoured surface compared to Nole. Rafa is more versatile than Nole. Rafa won the US open 2010 beating Nole. Has Nole ever beaten Rafa at roland garros? Giving a fright at roland garros does not equal it.


James Says:

@Michael, great post at 3:02am. Agree with you completely. I prefer calling Roger the most successful player of all time and not the best ever or GOAT. But I guess the media and obsessed fans will always keep this Goat debate going.

@metan, I don’t know, man. Most of eastern europe was under the Soviet for decades. I don’t know if it has anything to do with it but in my experience, most people from eastern europe can come across as ummm let’s say different from those from western europe. I guess they are more expressive with their emotions (not like crying though).


James Says:

@van orten, I’m not sure Murray will win more than 5 slams during his career. Novak might get to 10 or more, but highly doubt he’ll have more slams than Rafa Nadal. Rafa will probably end with 3-4 more slams than Novak.

I think it’s gonna get more and more difficult for Rafa/Nole/Murray to win slams. We’ll soon see the rise of another player(s). I said this same thing in 2010 when everyone thought Rafa and Roger would win all the slams.


James Says:

@Tennisfan, you seem to have good tennis knowledge like our friend Danny Morris. I wonder if you two ever discussed tennis here. Would be very interesting.


Vidzy Says:

please tell me what time will women’s final be played tomorrow. Anybody ?


Wog boy Says:

metan,

Correct me if I am wrong. You are high-school girl from Hong Kong that lives with mother and is/was pretty religious?


metan Says:

@wog boy.

Yes. How do you know that?? Do you want to come here????


Tennis x hippy chic Says:

Wogboy hi did you read my post at 11.11am Thursday 4th July on the Novak beats Berdych thread?


Tennis x hippy chic Says:

Have to ask if winning the FO is considered to be the poor mans GS for 1 dimensional ball bashers like Rafa,then why did Roger want to win it?and why does Nole want to win it,sounds like a bit of a contradiction in terms surely?i mean whats the point if its considered so meaningless?


Margot Says:

Just seen some pics of Andy practising how to return JJ’s serve. He’s got Dani standing mid court, giving him about half a second to react. Crikey.
@Vidz
I think Women’s is at 2pm UK time.
@Courbon
Lol, once saw a builder carrying a copy of the Guardian. Fell in love instantly and wanted to marry him. A man for all occasions..;)


Wog boy Says:

I have been there, but I just wanted ti make sure before I engage in discussion with you wheather is appropriate or not to do so. I think it is not since my youngest child is older than you.


Tennis x hippy chic Says:

Michael hi read the above post to Wogboy at 4.36am,im dissapointed as i thought you both new me better than that,you know i always try to be a fair poster,in my post on that thread i never made any mention what so ever about the draw,as you know im about the last person who cares about it,like i say i thought you both knew me better than that :(..


Michael Says:

Tennis Fan,

Let me make this very clear. I am not comparing Novak’s performance with Rafa. In terms of achievements, Rafa has done much more which Novak has to catch up. Even Novak has many times repeated that he sees Roger and Rafa as legends. So, there is no need to dwell more than that as to who is superior or inferior ? I am only contesting your illogical statement about Novak being a one dimensional player, which definitely is not the case. Novak has won many Clay court Masters, came to the finals of Rolland Garros and twice been a semi-finalist and so he is no push over on Clay. He still has time left to win the trophy as he is only 26. Time will judge Novak when he finishes his career.


Tennis x hippy chic Says:

^Knew me not new me^.


Wog boy Says:

hippy chic,

No I haven’t, I will check it later, have to go out now.

Margot,

Courbon is not one of those builders, you wouldn’t fall in love with him, he doesnt read papers, plays Yamb and is Frenchie (well French son in low, that is the same) ;). … I almost forgot, he is backstaber too, does that too me all the time;)


Michael Says:

Alison,

I just responded to your statement about Novak not been tested either just like Del Potro which in my opinion was missing the point considering that he has to face relatively stronger competition on his section of draw. Your name was not anyway connected with the draw of lots. You need not time and again state what is obvious. I know you are always a fair, sensible and balanced poster although you have your bias towards Rafa. I think you have misinterpreted my posting in that thread.


van orten Says:

yeah i really think things are shifting maybe towards the rest of the pack…djoker is great really really like him..just love his charisma even though his team is strange not to say weird!!!it feels sometimes like they are aplauding simultaniously to a march or something like that standing in the box..lol

we will see how it goes…do not know but i am really in a switzerland kind of mood and i just do not give much on who will win this or any other tourney this year..just hope we have spectacular winners!!!


Tennis x hippy chic Says:

OK Michael thankyou,i wont actually see the conclusion of the tournament as i am going on holiday anyway,and i wont have access to a computer so i wont be able to post,although i will have the match on record so i can watch it when i get back.


Michael Says:

Happy journey Alison !! Enjoy the tour !!


metan Says:

Michael and James.

Thanks for your thoughts over my post at 3.05 am.

I have never seen Rafa or Roger do that so I found weird. Any way, they are young men in their twenties. So let’s have some fun as long as not tear the opponent’s shirt.

Go go go JJ.!!


Tennis x hippy chic Says:

Thanks Michael i dont go until tomorrow,so i will still blog until then,anyway just to say i will never belittle Roger or Nole to make Rafa look better,as they all have their own personal and different achievements that no one will match,so theres no reason to do so anyway,i just think its a shame when certain posters take such delight in telling us with each and every post that a player with 12 GS,seems to be regarded as such a failure because 8 of his GS are on clay,even though he has 4 GS and an Olympic Gold Medal off clay,but hell whatever,anyway as Skeezer says enough Fedal talk this thread is for Nole/Andy/Delpo and JJ,may the best man win.


Michael Says:

Alison,

There are two options as to how to respond to such Posters who take delight in besmirching a leading player. We must either logically respond to them or ignore them. Infact lack of response to such offensive posts will reform them sooner than later to mend their ways. Roger, Rafa and Novak have achieved so much in Tennis and such outbursts in a forum are not going to anyway belittle them or lower their stature. History will stand as witness to their greatness.


Michael Says:

Metan,

You cannot expect everybody to attain the maturity levels of Roger and Rafa. They are a class apart.


Tennis x hippy chic Says:

Michael thankyou i enjoy your posts very much.


Tennis x hippy chic Says:

Mem and Danny Morris there are two long time female posters on this forum called Kimmi and Dari,both are very clever and knowledgeable ladies that deffinetly know their stuff about tennis,both are big Federer fans,and both love Andy and Delpo as their second and third favorites i believe,both say that they have nothing against Novak or Rafa personally, but just dont care for them as players,so i think it all comes down to personal preferance,nothing to do with ulterior motives or anything.


grendel Says:

mem

the business of Federer fans wanting Djokovic to win in order to protect Fed’s slam haul from being overhauled by Nadal can only be relevant when Nadal is still in the tournament.


Tennis x hippy chic Says:

Grendel exactly,may i also add,the buisness of Djokovic overhauling Nadals records that some posters keep parroting,will only become relevant if or when he breaks them not until.


Tennis Vagabond Says:

ENJOY THE TENNIS PEOPLE!

I think Drunk Wimbledon may have another surprise in store today!


Kimberly Says:

Listen, I am a Rafa fan and I personally don’t like Djokovic at all where he used to be one of my favorite players. Now obviously, his 2011 beatings are a huge factor in that. I won’t deny it. But like WOg Boy, there are a few incidents I point to which made me go the other way hard on him. Most of them in 2011 and I have softened up a lot but I still don’t like him and I root against him every match. I personally thought he was a classless poser for a bit after the Madrid overcelebration, his press remarks, eating the grass like a fool etc etc. Just like you guys don’t like Rafa, it is our right not to like Djoker and it can be because of all the beatings, or it can be because we think hes a fool. I don’t like him at all anymore. But unlike other posters I won’t take anything away from his amazing tennis accomplishments just because I don’t like him because what he does and continues to do on a tennis court is amazing.

SO if I were like Danny Morris I could say take out the AO, and Djokovic only has 2 slams. But why on earth would we take out a legitimate grandslam tournament?


Tennis x hippy chic Says:

Great post from Kimberly @9.20pm July 4th,just because many of the 12 GS Rafa has happen to be on clay,does not make his resume any less legitamate,so what if 8 of them are on clay,the point is Rafa has 12 GS,the point is ATM only two players have more GS.


James Says:

Novak and Delpo are on court now warming up.


Kimberly Says:

THink of it this way, if Djokovic wins 8 Australian Opens (very possible) and 4 other GS around the others and has 12 GS would he not be an amazing champion?


James Says:

“if Djokovic wins 8 Australian Opens (very possible) and 4 other
GS around the others and has 12 GS would he not be an amazing champion?”

Of course he would be! He is Djokovic after all, not Nadal ;) lol kidding

He won’t win 8 AOs. You don’t win a single slam 8 times just like that. But I think Novak will have 10 GS.


James Says:

Djokovic 1 game up. Served first. Playing very good. DelPo serving well too.


Tennis x hippy chic Says:

Kimberly dont necassarily agree with the rest of your post,but i like those two points,and thats why i cherry picked them,But unlike others i wont take anything away from his amazing accomplishments just because i dont like him because what he does and continues to do on a tennis court is amazing.
So if i were Danny Morris i could say take out the AO,and Djokovic only has 2 slams,But why would i take out a legitamate grandslam tournament?


Ben Pronin Says:

I don’t think Djokovic will win 8 AOs, either.

10 slams means 4 more slams? I’d take it as long as that includes one of each more slam. I don’t care if he wins anymore AOs but another US Open or 2 (where he should already have multiple). Hopefully this Wimbledon and, obviously, the big one at least one French Open.

But I think he stands to win more than 4. He’s only 26. He has a good 2-3 more years of winning slams, maybe even longer since he’s not overly injury prone. He is also formidable at every single slam. Especially if he wins this Wimbledon, I think don’t think 12 is out of reach.


Tennis x hippy chic Says:

I will never question Novaks greatness,i just think its unfair when people question Rafas.


James Says:

@Ben, Novak can definitely win more than 10 slams. But as we know winning a slam isn’t easy. We don’t know if a new player will rise in 1-2 years time to challenge the big 4 for the top spot. I think sooner or later we’re gonna witness a new player taking the fight to the current top guys.


James Says:

@hippy chic, anyone questioning the greatness of Rafa Nadal needs to brush up on their tennis history.


James Says:

Novak is playing very good. And so does DelPo. I don’t see a 3 setter between these two.


the DA Says:

LOL…someone just yelled out “c’mon Delboy”


Daniel Says:

Evn tough Djoko lost this long gamehewill tire DelPo.

But amazing that DelPo can go toe to toe with Djoko


Daniel Says:

Wow, vintage US Open 09′ forehand!!!


James Says:

What a game! Delpo holds his serve in the 6th game. Novak was the aggressor and looking to break him. Now DelPo’s turn to try to break Djokovic’s serve.


Tennis x hippy chic Says:

James he can but whether he will or not is another story,he might not be injury prone,but people seem to take for granted that his domination will last indefinetly,sure all looks good at the moment,but who knows what will happen in the future,is everyone else just gonna stand still?and Novak will himself be 28 next year,hes the hunted now with alot of eager up and comers eager to steel his thunder,and whos to say Federer or Nadal are done anyway?Nadal just won the FO didnt he?


Nikola Says:

He is not injured. Neverminde 3-0 for Novak.


the DA Says:

Nole better hope that FH doesn’t start firing or just keep the ball away from it as much as possible.


Nikola Says:

And 3-0 for Andy


the DA Says:

Nole’s BH isn’t as solid as it has been earlier in the tournament. Just a few errors but noticeable because they’re so rare. Maybe he’s just tense.


James Says:

@hippy chic, Novak will be 27 next year, not 28. And yes Nadal is gonna fight for the no.1 ranking. We’ll know how dominant Novak is gonna be in Montreal where Roger and Nadal will also be there. Unlike last year, it seems Rafa is gonna be around for the HC swing. It’s gonna be very interesting! Oh and no, Roger is still good enough to take out Novak in slams. And Roger is still very confident against Novak and Murray.


James Says:

@Nikola, I don’t think it will be 3-0 for either Novak or Andy.


Daniel Says:

@alison at 07:45

That hold true fo Nadal and Federer. How long are we Fed fans heraing some say the say. Welcome to the club, thismislaet of the hype. Evey time a player sows promisse begans speculation. What I am doing is speculating:)


Nikola Says:

I think that Janowicz gone get more money cose he gone loose 3-0 today then if he won 10 slams:)


Nikola Says:

For ANdy i am 100% convinced. For Novak 80%.


the DA Says:

What is up with Nole’s BH??


Daniel Says:

The thing is after 2010 when Nadal had a remarable year and Djoko rise in 2011 he only won RG in the last 3 years (11′, 12′ and 13′). See the trend? And each year is getting harder. While Djoko is inon his way up. That’s why this year for him to win minimum 2 Slams can cement his path. Will see, still this tourney to be played and won.


Nikola Says:

@the DA

Don`t know he should get this set 6-3. He play like a Rafa at RG.


Nikola Says:

He play like “against” Rafa at FO


Tennis x hippy chic Says:

Daniel my post was not directed at you,it was a generalisation,your quite right its nice to speculate,but thats all it is,means squat unless it comes into fruition,no hard feelings.


James Says:

@Nikola, so you think they’re paying JJ to throw the match? ;)
I’m watching the Delpo-Djokovic match and it doesn’t look like it will end in 3 sets.


the DA Says:

@Nikola – “he should get this set 6-3″

That would be miraculous seeing as it’s already 6-5 and on serve.


James Says:

What is this?? Novak’s struggling with his BH DTL


Daniel Says:

DelPo is playng solid. He sirvive a bunch of 30-30 games and Djoko’s BH is crackig a bit.


Nikola Says:

U sed that James. But if u think iam sure. First Andy need confindence, and rest.JJ need money so put 2 and 2 toghether and u get 3-0.


Nikola Says:

Delpo is playing greate!


van orten Says:

djokos combo again standing and clapping hands like robots hahahha


Daniel Says:

No problems alisom, I don’t have hard feelings even with mem:)


James Says:

BP for Novak


Daniel Says:

Just because I said so, DelPo cracked in a crucial moment.


James Says:

oops I meant set point. And gets it. 7-5 Djokovic


van orten Says:

ok djoker takes first set..expect delpo to retire soon !!!


Nikola Says:

My English is not perfect. Wow 1 set Noleee


the DA Says:

Nole steps it up just when it counts and gets the break and the 1st set 7-5.


Kimberly Says:

Novak wins the first set with his B game essentially, looking vey dangerous for this tournament.


James Says:

Delpo’s playing good but Novak’s playing slightly better.


Nikola Says:

He will not retire. He is classy.


Ty Says:

Novak really is great. I love how subtly he’s able to transition from defense to offense.


Ben Pronin Says:

Of all the times for my stream not to be working!!!


Nikola Says:

Novak is playing 65%. He had luck in first one lets see how it goes. Don`t see any easy set like 6-2.


Polo Says:

For me, Novak showed his A game. del Potro played incredibly well in the first set, well enough to beat anybody playing at a B level. Del Potro’s formidable game has allowed us to see how beautiful and how great Djokovic’s game is.


James Says:

Novak’s confident and playing very well. Can Delpo up his game in the 2nd set? He needs to get his 1st serves in at least 70%


Nikola Says:

I think this one go to tie break.


Tennis x hippy chic Says:

As much as it pains me to agree with a certain poster,i can actually see Novak winning this title without dropping a set.


James Says:

wow!! That forehand from Delpo!


Tennis x hippy chic Says:

I think the best Delpo can hope for is to keep it close,possibly in 3 tight sets,damage limitation is what i hope for now,as long as the next two sets dont become a beatdown.


Ben Pronin Says:

None of those work for me.


James Says:

@hippy chic, I don’t know how bad his knee is. If not too serious, Delpo will take a set off Novak.


Nikola Says:

@ Ben Pronin

Turn off firlewall.

I am just realistic Tennis x hippy chic


James Says:

sorry @Ben, keep trying. This is a good match.


Tennis x hippy chic Says:

^I am just been realistic.^


James Says:

Djokovic is returning so well but Delpo not too well.


Thomas Says:

Can’t you use livestreamhunter?


Nikola Says:

@ Tennis x hippy chic
Ty. u want to give me neglish writig lessons?


Nikola Says:

English*


Tennis x hippy chic Says:

It is a great match James,im really enjoying it,i wont see it all unfortunatly as i have to go to work now,i cant blog after tonight as i am going away in the morning.


James Says:

double BP for Novak.


Nikola Says:

Novak in 4 gear


Ty Says:

Be weary of learning the language from someone who DOESN’T PUT SPACES AFTER COMMAS!

*Grammar Nazi inside kicks sand.


Ben Pronin Says:

As soon as I start watching Djokovic goes down 0-40. Woops.


James Says:

no worries, hippy chic. Have fun at work. And enjoy your holiday :-)

meanwhile, triple BP for Delpo. Oh and he does it!


the DA Says:

Well well, how quickly fortunes can change. Nole had 3 BPs and couldn’t convert and now Delpo breaks to love. He also seems to have the crowd behind him.


Nikola Says:

ahhh tie break


the DA Says:

I want whatever Nikola’s eating/smoking.


Polo Says:

Ty, Hahaha! I went back and so how consistently she does that, no space after a comma.

Back to tennis. This looks like an A-game vs A-game match.


James Says:

@hippy chic, just out of curiosity, any particular place you’re going to for your holiday?


Nikola Says:

the DA Lol

Beer


James Says:

C’mon! Hold your serve, Delpo. He looks more confident in this set.


Ben Pronin Says:

Both guys appear seem to be destroying second serves. Novak made no first serves when he got broken and Del Potro has made one since going up 40-0. Makes a first serve and saves break point.


James Says:

@Ben, so is the live stream working for you now? Did you think it’s a 3 set match?


James Says:

Delpo takes the 2nd set 6-4. Now what do you say, Nikola?


Ben Pronin Says:

Well it’s at least a 4 set match.


Nikola Says:

And now they give for Novak win only 1.22

I hate them!!!


the DA Says:

One set all. Delpo went up a gear towards the end of that set. It’s pretty even. I expect Nole to come out guns blazing in the 3rd.


Nikola Says:

I say i was wrong.


Nikola Says:

If DElpo is injured i am not drunk:)


James Says:

Well, I thought it would be a 4 set in Novak’s favor. I hope Delpo proves me wrong. He’s returning better now. Novak’s return game is so good. Even Delpo’s 1st serves are returned well.


James Says:

Delpo is injured. But it’s apparently not as serious as some of us feared.


Nikola Says:

Its good match BTW. I played first set over 9 games. I just need Maldenovic?Nestor to win the match.


Thomas Says:

In so many points, Novak is playing some incredible shots, only to finish the point with a lame forehand/backhand error. Hope that changes as the match progresses.


Nikola Says:

Man do u know whait is knee injure is? No way he can play like this if he have any problem on that side.


Ben Pronin Says:

Man Djokovic must really be regretting that lapse in the second set.

James, I didn’t think this was going to be a straight set match, either. I kinda hoped, but Del Potro fights too hard and plays too well. He’s not Berdych.


Nikola Says:

Novak is too far from baseline. Good tactic by Delpo, but i must say 3-1 for Novak.


van orten Says:

he is delpo!!!


James Says:

@Nikola, it’s possible to play through injury if it’s not too serious. I’ve had that experience myself at uni. I couldn’t walk for a day but took a pain killer and played a 1.5 hour match. Like I said, if it not too serious, you can try to ignore the pain and play through it.


Nikola Says:

i had the same, and with the pain killers i could not have 30 min solid run.


Nikola Says:

Maybe that pain killers dont work with beer?


James Says:

“couldn’t walk for a day but took a pain killer and played a 1.5
hour match.”

*the next day. And I lost :(


van orten Says:

depends def. on the painkillers;-)


Ty Says:

LOL @ Niko


Nikola Says:

No more aces for Novak? He can loose this set too.


James Says:

Exactly @Ben. Delpo plays very well and unlike Berdych this guy actually believes that he can beat Novak. At least that’s the impression I got from his pre match interview.


Nikola Says:

I mean i had the problem with knee for 15 days man. Maaybe medicine now can improve that but not in that way that u can beat healty Novak. No way.


Ty Says:

Not in tennis at the highest level, I agree.


Nikola Says:

Delpo gone crack up and loose like a gentlman.


Nikola Says:

@ Ty
Thtas want i meant to say.


Ben Pronin Says:

Djokovic is leaking a lot of errors. It seems like every point rests on his racket. Either he hits a winner, forces an error, or hits an error himself. Del Potro doing well by hitting some ridiculous forehands here and there to rattle Novak further.


van orten Says:

it must be 100th time today delpo leading 30:0 only to make two mistakes no first serves and getting himself into trouble


Ben Pronin Says:

Well that was a great point, all Delpo.


James Says:

@Nikola, maybe it’s more to do with how serious the injury is. Like I said, I don’t think Delpo’s injury is as serious as some of us had feared. But that’s different from not being injured at all.


Ty Says:

Delpo has DA POWAA!!


Rick Says:

No way of Djokovic winning Wimbledon. Last year, he couldn’t defend his title from Fed. And he was defeated Murray at the US Open!


Nikola Says:

Novak`s gone wait, and he will get it.


Nikola Says:

Ricky Martin? Go home.


Ty Says:

My God that is a wallop of a backhand.


Nikola Says:

Igf Novak gets just one breake this is over in 25 min.


Giles Says:

COMMME ONNNN DELPO!!


James Says:

“I mean i had the problem with knee for 15 days man.”

Not Del Potro. Yours must have been more serious than Delpo’s or mine.


Ben Pronin Says:

You guys weren’t kidding, Djokovic’s backhand is all sorts of crazy.


James Says:

Delpo gets double BP. Novak saves 1 BP. 1 more to go. Will Delpo take this?


Thomas Says:

I can’t explain djokovic’s inexplicable errors off the ground.


Ty Says:

@THomas… look across the net ace.


Polo Says:

What’s happening here? Are the tennis gods angry at somebody for heaping too much early praise on Djokovic and now makes his idol pay the price?


van orten Says:

come on…delpo.. do not leave him out of this !!!2 dumb mistakes…this is the djoker…he will punish you later


Nikola Says:

I mean it was serios at same level as Delpo sed about his knee.


Rick Says:

JMDP in four! Sean picked Nole to win! His jinx curses are deadly!


Polo Says:

Djokovic is moving into his B game now.


Thomas Says:

Ty, Del POtro is playing well, but a lot of Novak’s errors are being made when he is already in control of the point. (ie he makes a stupid error when he should have finished the point off with an easy winner.)


van orten Says:

djoker wins the set 6:4


Nikola Says:

Greate tennis ppl. Best so far.


van orten Says:

come on djoker box pls stand up and clapp your hands in your own annoying way


Ty Says:

When you’re facing a guy taking the cover off the ball, instinctively you’re going to force the issues – thus creating more errors.

Delpo having a bit TOO much fun. Should have won that game.


James Says:

Oh c’mon! Please stop with this Novak A game/ B game/ Z game. He is the same guy with all the good and all the flaws in his game.


Thomas Says:

We are heading towards the decisive part of the match now.


Nikola Says:

Novakis playnig C game and this is greate. Yess Nestor/Mladenovic won the first set. Easy money:)


Ben Pronin Says:

Huge hold for Djokovic.

Man oh man this is great stuff. Didn’t I say we’d get a blockbuster?

Del Potro finally, FINALLY, looks like he’s getting back to his late 09 form.

I think Djokovic’s errors are coming from Delpo’s pace, not unlike the 09 US Open final. It’s easy to think that Djokovic is just missing but he’s definitely being pressured. He’s also not playing from inside the baseline as much as he needs to be because Delpo’s pace keeps him on his heels.


Ty Says:

This is going to be a great day for tennis.


Nikola Says:

He is not James. I mean mentaly. He is stuck right now.


Rick Says:

Rafa is beaten in the first round, and he was Sean’s first pick. And he also picked Ferrer as the winner against JMDP!


van orten Says:

i am standing and i am clapping my hands ..vamos delpo !!! ahhahah


Nikola Says:

Now i say 5 sets.


van orten Says:

daleee delpooo daleeeee


Nikola Says:

@ Rick

Who is yours first pick? RF still?


James Says:

@Nikola, I could say the same about Nadal in 2011 slam finals against Novak that he was playing his E game against Novak’s A game. The reason Novak isn’t playing his A game is because Delpo isn’t letting him. Delpo unlike Berdych is mixing his pace and that’s not helping Novak find his rhythm.


metan Says:

Go Delpo. Omg I missed this match earlier.

Great games.


van orten Says:

still clapping


Ben Pronin Says:

E game, L game, QRS game, what does this even mean?

Djokovic just hit some crazy great shots to dig himself out of another whole. Both guys are forcing each other to come up with their best stuff, and sometimes you’ll get errors playing like that. So far this match has been fantastic.


Nikola Says:

@James
I agree, but Novak don`t fail mentaly on GS tournaments. Maybe Delpo have more power in his hands then anyone could see that.


van orten Says:

6:4 djokovic…a pity because delpo had his big big chances!!! he lacks of confidence on big points sometimes…daleee delpo


Ty Says:

WHAO!!!!!


van orten Says:

hahahaha i love my pessimistic lines !!! what a point!!!!


Ben Pronin Says:

Juan Martin del Potro: The GOAT of sending his opponent to the ground.


Polo Says:

Every shot is a WOW!


the DA Says:

The quality of this set is off the charts. Delpo really turned a corner at the Olympics last year. He looks (and moves) so comfortable on grass now.


Nikola Says:

@ Ben Pronin
Lol
Are u Humble Rafa?


Ty Says:

Delpo is hitting every shot in the book.


James Says:

“but Novak don`t fail mentaly on GS tournaments”

never? I don’t know. I think despite their all their crazy shots and greatness, they’re still human.


Sidney Says:

Delpo is amazing, playing the best tennis of his life!


Sidney Says:

Nole has hit the deck at least 4 times so far, credit to Delpo.

The pace of Delpo’s shots is making Nole work a little harder.


James Says:

Now can Delpo take this to TB? Novak gets 3 BPs


the DA Says:

3 SPs. 2 saved.


Rick Says:

JMDP a better player on grass with his game! Like at the Olympics, Nole was beaten easily! And get eaten again at Indian Wells! So I consider JMDP as the favourite to win this!


the DA Says:

haha…no words.


Ben Pronin Says:

That first break point where Djokovic missed the backhand, smh smh smh.


James Says:

Delpo saves all 3 BPs!! Crazy! He still has to hold to take it to TB though


Ty Says:

Delpo: Big time onions.


ganncu Says:

wtf was that???? Delpo vs Djokr turning out to be absolute classi


the DA Says:

Delpo needs to win this TB if he wants to have a chance.


Nikola Says:

Who wins TB is the winner


van orten Says:

ok ok ..let us see how he handles that now…


James Says:

That last game is the difference between JMDP and Tomas Berdych.


van orten Says:

i remember the reason delpo won us open 2009 …he won both tie-breakers vs fed!!!!


Nikola Says:

I go still with Novak 3-1


Gannu Says:

delpo vs djoker turning out to be absolute classic


the DA Says:

quintessential Djokovic point, drawing the error.


van orten Says:

that is not possible !!! what a mistake …incredibleeeeeeeeeeee no wayyyyyy


van orten Says:

that was so easy just putting him away ..oh god…


Nikola Says:

The best match i seen…

Today:) Grate match realy


James Says:

Novak may still win this but Delpo’s the aggressor right now.


van orten Says:

bye bye delpo…what a shitty timing for 2 stupid errors…


Ty Says:

Two big errors. He’s been here before though. GOod stuff from both guys.


Rick Says:

Nole failed to Rafa, Fed and Murray in the GS! He was lucky to held onto his number 1 last year And a senior player took away his number 1 during Wimbledon!


Gannu Says:

djoko is a monster a beast….just doesn’t give up..unbelievable


van orten Says:

really dissapointing tie break…wow delpo…he actually handed it to nole…but that is tennis,,that is djokovic..


Ty Says:

Rick, why you trollin’; there’s a great match on.


James Says:

Delpo lost the set, not the match yet. He’s still capable of taking the next set.


van orten Says:

this had nothing to do with not giving up..easy errors by delpo…called choking at worst possible time


Ty Says:

Wow… helluva mustard commercial.


Sidney Says:

This Delpo kid has a big heart! Unbelievable! Funny, too.

He’s my second favorite player now!

Behind Nole of course!

Go Nole! 1 more set…


van orten Says:

i want so badly a new grand slam winner!!! ok delpo already won..but it is always the same players winning and escaping !!! fed escaped during his prime…nadal is master of escaping and djoker the titan of escaping!!!


Polo Says:

Great match so far. I hope del Potro does not get disheartened by losing the tie-breaker. If he keeps fighting to the end, this is going to be a classic, right up there with the best matches ever.


Ben Pronin Says:

I’ll admit Djokovic got lucky a few times, Delpo making several errors off his forehand. But, adje!!!!!!

Phew, this is intense.

DA, you sound like Johnny Mac. Honestly, I’m really tired of hearing “he has to win this because he won’t be able to come back blah blah blah.” Yes, we should favor Djokovic if the match gets longer and more physical, but that doesn’t mean Del Potro is out of it. Novak was lucky enough to win that third set. Del Potro has to still like his chances and think that he can turn things around if a few points here and there go his way.


Nikola Says:

Ty

he is not trolinng , he is realy an idiot.


van orten Says:

pls do not sing cliff!


Nikola Says:

1 advice for betting. Andy-Janowicz first set 9- gems


Rick Says:

So what? Sean has a jinx on Nole. Some how Nole would finds his way to get beaten! If not JDMP or Murray be the killer! Hahahaha


Ty Says:

Man, I am so sick to death of these bathroom breaks and MTOs.

Where the hell did Nole go, to change a tampon or something? Play the game man.


Ben Pronin Says:

What an epic first point. Djokovic’s defense is unreal, even on grass. Err, sorry, must be clay-grass.


van orten Says:

what is wrong with delpos overhead balls!!!???????


Ben Pronin Says:

Ty, they’ve been on court for like 3 hours, maybe he needs to pee? What’s the big deal?


grendel Says:

one volley, one inch….

wonderful match, and even if delPo loses, at last we know he can be back in the picture.


Polo Says:

Ty, what are you complaining about? Those guys have kidneys, too. No matter how good they are, their bladders do get full, too, just like you and I.


the DA Says:

@ Ben – Just saying given the history of both players. The 2009 USO was an aberration. I’d like to be proven wrong and hold out hope.

BTW I’m nothing like Johnny Mac, I can pronounce Del Potro properly ;P


Ty Says:

@Ben, that’s fine. But don’t make the guy sit there for 10 minutes. That’s all.

Anyways, back to tennis.

Great hold from Delpo.


James Says:

I’ll repeat, Delpo believes he can beat Novak Djokovic on grass at Wimbledon. Now he may go on to lose the match but unlike the Berdychs he won’t give up so easily.


van orten Says:

us open 2009 : fed 11 double faults! 3 of them in the tie breakers!!! not so good..so i remember it was pretty much in his hands..but ran finally out of gas in the 5th. ergo deserving win for delpo


Ben Pronin Says:

After that first game, Djokovic has only won 1 more point than Delpo.

The numbers in this match are nuts. Surprisingly, Djokovic has almost twice as many winners as Delpo, and only a few more errors. The only “negative” stat for Djokovic is his horrendous 34% of second serve points won. And 1/10 break points, too.


van orten Says:

and no fluke


Ty Says:

Delpo looks a bit weary getting to that forehand.


Ty Says:

Phew… Djoko let Delpo off the hook in that game.


James Says:

Good hold from Delpo. It isn’t over yet, folks.


Ben Pronin Says:

You know you’re watching great players when every time they miss you think “what? how did that happen?”

Seriously, I feel like both guys are flat out lucky when the other guy misses. It’s nuts.


Nikola Says:

I sed 5 seter. thats means more beer.


Ty Says:

Even the commercials are entertaining. Strange day today. I’m hoping Murray-Janowicz follows nicely.


Ty Says:

I have this strange feeling that the world woke up in a pretty good mood today. The tennis is reflecting such.


Kimberly Says:

just got back from playing tennis since first set. Looks like it turned out to be a match after all.


Nikola Says:

Great sportmanship.U have to love tennis with this 2 guys.


van orten Says:

i love boris becker commentating


Danny Morris Says:

This match deserves a 5th set :) with nole winning ;)

Delpotro has really found his grass feet. I always wondered why the guy struggled so much on grass. Once you get through to 2nd week, it is almost like clay around the baseline. he never got through to the 2nd week till this year.

lady-forehand fans must be hoping that delpotro pushes nole to 19-17 in the deciding set, maybe even 70-68.

I can see them try their best to will delpo on. I will not fault them. With the abilities or lack of abilities murray got, his fans got to try every trick out there.

Good luck my dearest murray fans, God knows your guy and you people need it so that you guys dont end up sobbing on this forum and murray, live on telivision!

easily the best match of the tournament! followed closely by darcis-claydal. LOL!

thank you nole and delpotro. let’s go another 2 more hours and extra time into the 5th set. :)


Ty Says:

Great stuff!


the DA Says:

That’s it.


Nikola Says:

Amaazing stuff. Pitty they didn`t play second.


van orten Says:

wow edberg still looking charming !!!


Ty Says:

@Van

Lucky. I have the damn McEnroe brothers and Chris “is it time for college football” Fowler.

I’m not sure who’s bright idea it was to put those two together in the same small space, but they deserve a slap on the wrist with a wet noodle.


James Says:

@DM, incredible match, isn’t it? Del Potro’s aggressive shots vs Novak’s solid defense. Novak is fetching balls from every corner. Great stuff from him. He’s a break up now too.


Ty Says:

Ok so strange…

as I was typing that comment the commentary switched over to BBC without me doing anything.

God, are you listening? Because I’d also like 100 million dollars.


Nikola Says:

15-2 aaaaces for Novaak cmon can`t beleve this stats


Ty Says:

@DA

“Not yet…” – Antonio Bandaras, ‘Desperado’


Ben Pronin Says:

It ain’t over yet!


the DA Says:

Wow! Maybe not.


James Says:

Delpo broke back!!!


van orten Says:

standing ovations !!!! in front of my tv!!!


Polo Says:

I still don’t know who will win this match. If this quality is maintained to the end, I won’t even care who wins.


Nikola Says:

@ van orten

Change TV or change your head


skeezer Says:

This is awesome Tennis. So fun. Wish it went 8 sets. Also, this blog is a joy to read, many great opinions and posts, no Rafanatic poster talk.
Delpo is a fun gentle giant to watch. Agree with grendel its nice to see him back in form regardless of the outcome.


Nikola Says:

Polo Says:

I still don’t know who will win this match. If this quality is maintained to the end, I won’t even care who wins

Best post today


Danny Morris Says:

@James:

don’t know which match you watching, Nole has tracked down those laser forehands and hit some of his own. he has out-hit and out-defended delpo. his out-acing delpo is straight out of the federer book. federer has done that too all these big servers over the years.

even as recently as rome, fed outaced janowicz, a guy 10 years younger than him.

my main concern was nole getting too bored and playing uninspired tennis- happens to champions without a challenge. he got one from delpo. I don’t think delpo is winning this without making it a 70-68 kind of match.

i am glad jmdp broke. this match needs 5 sets. it is a total classic. it’s great all these big-hitters are finding their game. claydal’s chances of winning slams outside clay are going up in smoke as each of these guys start discovering their potential.


skeezer Says:

8 sets….wait…that wouldn’t work. 9 sets then.


the DA Says:

That last ball was in – should’ve challenged


Nikola Says:

I think Delpo takes the TB


Ty Says:

WHOA!!!!!!!


van orten Says:

those aces have saved djoker so far..impressive serving


Ty Says:

LOL@Becker after that last forehand

“gonna get arrested by the police soon!”


Ben Pronin Says:

Fowler is revealing the challenges before they’re shown. I really didn’t think he could be a worse commentator than he already is. Unbelievable.


van orten Says:

ok thats it


Ty Says:

Impossible get by Djokovic.


van orten Says:

becker is the best !!!


Ty Says:

Van you must be an undertaker in real life.

You’ve tried to bury this guy half a dozen times already. :)


Ben Pronin Says:

I don’t know why you guys are in such a rush for Delpo to lose.


Ben Pronin Says:

Couple of clowns hahaha.


Nikola Says:

Good game.I want to see Qf Novak-Delpo and final Novak-Fed in final at USO.


Ty Says:

Djokovic is so damn solid. There is no hitting through him.


van orten Says:

those lack of service winners is costing him the match in the end…good returning of course by nole ..but delpo is not placing the ball that good


James Says:

Novak MP


Thomas Says:

What was so funny? I missed the last few points.


Ty Says:

This is great man. Good stuff.


James Says:

what a point! Now how about an ace, Delpo?


van orten Says:

hahahhahahahah indeed i really am the undertaker..and who is paul barrer ???


the DA Says:

This is beyond ridiculous


Ty Says:

…becoming a fan.


Daniel Says:

Left, came back and still on.

ThoughtDjokoshould have gone DTL BH in one of those MP.


James Says:

wow! Delpo! Will be sad to see you lose this set. Get this next point.


Ty Says:

DA is the paul barrer


Polo Says:

Every point looks like the best point I have ever seen!


skeezer Says:

Delpo turned into a Hero today. Fun stuff ;)


James Says:

Epic!


Ty Says:

Yep. This one deserves five.


Thomas Says:

This is simply outrageous.


skeezer Says:

One of the best sets ever!


Giles Says:

COME ON DELPO!! HANG IN THERE!


Nikola Says:

Novak get this 6-1


grendel Says:

Such courage


Polo Says:

OK, guys. I will stop posting and watch the fifth set uninterrupted.


van orten Says:

daleeeeeeeeeeeee delpppppoooooooo!!!!!!!!


Nirmal Kumar Says:

As a tennis fan, probably these are the matches which gives utmost satisfaction for spending all you family time watching and talking tennis. What a match.

It’s a pity this match is going to have only one winner.


the DA Says:

@skeezer – the 3rd and 4th sets were equally great. This is turning into one of the all-time classics (again on grass).


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Novak with the advantage of serving 1st in this set.


Nikola Says:

Nikola Says:

I think Delpo takes the TB

July 5th, 2013 at 11:54 am


Nikola Says:

This disevrve like 10-8 but it wont haappend. Kudos to Delpo, greate tennis.


Daniel Says:

Wow, is this payback for those US Open semis versus Fed where he won after saving MP and now will lose after having MP?!
DelPo looks a bit exhausted.


van orten Says:

by the way cannot remember a match where djoker held mps and lost


Danny Morris Says:

That 4th set break was the best 4th set breaker since 2008 wimbledon final.

Nole’s serving 1st and he really has to keep up his ridiculous serving level.


Kimberly Says:

WOWWWWWW!!! good stuff. Really enjoyable.


volley Says:

roger and rafa who?


Nikola Says:

I thinkhe never lost a maatch when he had MP


Ty Says:

It seems like Delpo gets every important point.


van orten Says:

that was my guess too..he never lost one like that..


Nirmal Kumar Says:

I have never seen Novak server better than today. And his ROS is at ridiculous level. Hardly any ace from Delpo. But still Del Po is making a match out of it.

He definitely better player today on the baseline.


van orten Says:

nice volleying from nole there!!!


Daniel Says:

DelPo saving energy. He will try to break when znole misses first serves and attack second serves, as he won TB.


Nikola Says:

@ van orten
If he win this one, he gone win US open too and then…


Danny Morris Says:

roger – the most powerful athlete, 2013 by Forbes, voted Greatest tennis player by tennis channel experts.

claydal – lost to rosol 2nd round wimbledon 2012 and got the dose repeated against darcis 2013.

hope that clears things up for those who don’t know roger and rafa!


van orten Says:

to be fair nirmal..delpo is not the best returner himself..but nole is really good on his serve today


Daniel Says:

This is the shot he should have went for in those MP instead of trying to break Delpo’s BH.


SG1 Says:

Novak has a played a lot of epic semis!


Nikola Says:

@ Nirmal Kumar
U are right ,cant beleve Novak cant make him run more.


van orten Says:

insane return by nole there but delpo still looking good on those rallies..2:2


Thomas Says:

Djokovic backhand DTL has been awful this match. If he had any confidence with that shot, this match would probably over.


van orten Says:

this one is my favourite nole semi of all time ..thanks to that point ;-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37qyvTRVus8


Danny Morris Says:

Nole is not winning enough 2nd serve points and way too many errors on the backhand. he has taken the federer imitation to a crescendo converting only 2 of 12 break points.

Hope Janowicz is inpired by delpotro. even on this slower-green clay, there is hope for big-hitters and definitely murray would be out in straights if janowicz plays anywhere near to his potential/talent.


van orten Says:

@danny morris

nole is number 1 in the world..well deserved…of course he is going the fed way after all;-)


Ty Says:

Djokovic’s turn to produce world class onions.


Nikola Says:

I think would give that ponit and many more for the US open semi 2010 an 2011. That was brutal from Novak. That was the begining of the end.


Ty Says:

Great response. Appropriate for a world no. 1.


Daniel Says:

Djoo was dumb in this shot. delpo was already runing to bh corner and Djoko hit there.


van orten Says:

what a return again…delpo is helpless there


SG1 Says:

71-69 in the fifth set. Take away Isner and Mahut’s one claim to fame.


van orten Says:

i cannnot believe it…this is really fed stuff nole is pulling off for his fans…wow..nervwrecking stuff…easy misses easy misses


the DA Says:

Two brainfart points by Nole. I haven’t seen him blow two chances like that since…can’t remember when.


Jatin Says:

I don’t know what i am seeing.
Is this really a tennis match ??
Please tell me its not a dream because i have never ever seen such quality of tennis ever. I have got enough chills already and my mind cannot take more.

This is out of this world infinity tennis.


Nikola Says:

Now Nole takes a breake and match.


Nikola Says:

i bet 200 euros


Sidney Says:

Nole’s inability to convert break point changes is frustrating!

Go Nole!


Ben Pronin Says:

Something about Del Potro makes guys unsure of how to play him.

Djokovic appears stubborn in his tactics the way Federer did in his US Open loss. Do you pick on the backhand? Forehand? Move him wide? Long? It seems like these guys don’t know what to do when everything is clicking for Delpo. Plus he always looks tired but he’s still slugging away.


Nirmal Kumar Says:

It’s the survival of fittest now, and most likely the fittest player now is Novak.

Van,
I have seen Del Po return well and consistent before. He may not be at the level of Murray or Novak, but definitely it’s not easy to ace him much. Novak is painting the lines beautifully.


Nikola Says:

Final befor Final


Ben Pronin Says:

Maybe it’s being tired that helps Del Potro. He clearly plays better when he just blasts away and when he feels tired he does just that and it pays dividends for him.


Ty Says:

Nikola…. what are you man? You must be one lucky dude.


Nikola Says:

I hate when i when i am so right. Privilige to watch this match even on TV


James Says:

Novak gets a break and will serve for the match. Can Delpo break back at this point?

Btw, apart from Danny Morris, who else was predicting a 3-0 win for Novak?


SG1 Says:

71-69 will have to wait ’till the final then. Looks Novak will close this one out.


Daniel Says:

Well, Djoko is having a lot of problems closing out sets and matches, so won’t surprise m if DelpO breaks as he will go all or nothing.


Nikola Says:

Its not over yet man


van orten Says:

i will not say anything now;-)


Ben Pronin Says:

I’ve never seen Djokovic play so poorly when leading.


Daniel Says:

Me James:)


Nikola Says:

Now 4 points for Nole


Jatin Says:

Comon del potro dig deep.


courbon Says:

I remember somebody saying that Novaks matches are boring….pew!this is fantastic match.
Comon Novak, don’t piss me off!Finish the bloody match!!!!!!


Nikola Says:

2/4


Daniel Says:

Me and my mouth;-)


James Says:

Daniel, then give Delpo a standing ovation even if he loses the match:)


courbon Says:

Nikola brate, jel ce pobediti?


Daniel Says:

No first serves for Djoko


Ben Pronin Says:

I just feel like destiny is on Delpo’s side.


Daniel Says:

DelPo really pushes Djoko this days


courbon Says:

YEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Kimberly Says:

Great match


Ty Says:

What a way to end it. Novak is so damn great.


James Says:

Well played, Novak! Well played, Delpo!
Good there’s no shirt tearing celebration this time.


Daniel Says:

BH DTL to close it out. What he should have went for in those MP in tiebreak. DelPo had noing more in the tank but what a player.


the DA Says:

Well that was something else! Feel bad for Delpo, so close. Jane, come out from behind the couch! It’s safe.


Ben Pronin Says:

No shirt ripping. Djokovic knows he’s lucky to have gotten out of that one.

So so so so so happy to see Del Potro playing his best again.

Wow.

I’ve been shaking for the past hour.

Epic.


van orten Says:

congrats…q pena delpo..que pena


andrea Says:

oh delpo! so close.


SG1 Says:

Half the Novak-Murray ticket has been punched.


the DA Says:

The next match can only be a let down.


Brando Says:

Standing Ovation for JMDP: thought he may not play let alone go so far- well done Juan Martin! Big respect!


Alex Says:

Close, almost a shirt rip, hes pumped…

Great Match!


Ty Says:

Damn. To think that was the appetizer today.


James Says:

So I guess 2nd Wimbledon title is just a match away.


Ben Pronin Says:

Will an epic Djokovic semi screw over the hometown hero again?

Probably not, but this crowd has to be somewhat depleted.


Brando Says:

Congrats to Novak- he fought through a war today. He’s praising Juan Martin big time now- kudos for that!


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Novak again convinces me he is the best tennis player I have seen in my life for past 30 years. What a player!!


Nikola Says:

Brate Crbob pa nisi baljda sumnjao:)


grendel Says:

Two huge warriors, two wonderful tennis players – and two gentlemen. Whole match played in tremendous spirit.

I must say, as a former sceptic, I was impressed by Djokovic’s work at the net. Nearly flawless. Wonder of delPo will try to improve in that area.


Nikola Says:

Curbon*


Ben Pronin Says:

Djokovic is the recovery master but Murray could make fitness a real factor. Reverse of Australia? I guess it depends on Murray-Janowicz.


Polo Says:

I think that match just saved this Wimbledon.


Brando Says:

Seriously pleased to see JMDP back to big time. Make no mistake about it: IF he’s physically fit, the guy is right there for the big titles. A warrior!


Nikola Says:

Now everybody Andy-Janowicz first se under 9 gems


Ty Says:

@grendel

I agree. Delpo played exceptionally, but faltered quite often at the net. It may not show in the stats, but there were numerous times he should have been in the net closing out points. But hell, he got it done another way.


James Says:

@Nirmal Kumar, even better than Roger Federer?


Brando Says:

Andy needs to win set 1 moreso now: the crowd will be deflated in terms of energy after that epic.


Wog boy Says:

Good match Nole, you can do better than that;)

DOBAAAAAAAAAR

IDEMO NOLE


courbon Says:

@ Nikola: Ma popizdeo sam, pa I poceo da sumnjam…Sve je lepo, kad se lepo zavrsi! Kao sto bi rekao Grunf ( Alan Ford ): Ako hoces pobjediti, nesmijes izgubiti!


Nikola Says:

Curbon odakle si?


courbon Says:

@ Wog Boy: Close shave, a?


the DA Says:

One day Delpo is going to win one of these epic matches again. He’s getting very close. I hope he can transfer this energy at least to the Masters before the USO. One good sign: he didn’t look as crushed as he did after the Olympics SF.


courbon Says:

@ Nikola: Iz Beograda, mada sam ziveo od 1992 do 2012 u Londonu a sad zivimi na jugo zapadu Francuske ( Gascony )


Ty Says:

McEnroe is down there giving his “best matches ever” routine.


Sidney Says:

Nole the Great!

I don’t know how Nole won this match. I guess he found a way, somehow.

Delpo outplayed Nole for most of the match, hitting more winners and less errors. And with Nole slipping and falling a bunch of times.

22 aces made a huge difference, I think. Wow!


Nikola Says:

Pozdarv bas iz Bg-a :) Zaradih na online kladjenju taman da odem na Us open. Pozdrav care pa se vidimo ovde ovih dana popio sam mnogo piva:)


Margot Says:

What a thrilling match! Thanx to both guys providing such entertainment.
Congrats to nole, commis to Delboy, who got another fan today.
@the DA
The crowd will be leaving to get food/drink/loo etc so will be a funny atmosphere at the start anyway.
And even I need my tea!


Nirmal Kumar Says:

James,

Yeah definitely. He is the next and better version of Roger and it’s no shame for Roger. It’s expected.


James Says:

I’ve never seen Novak serve like that. 22 aces! His serve now is even better than in 2011.


El Flaco Says:

Ben Pronin Says:
Djokovic is the recovery master but Murray could make fitness a real factor. Reverse of Australia? I guess it depends on Murray-Janowicz.

July 5th, 2013 at 1:01 pm
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I think Djokovic will be fine as long as he doesn’t have any injuries that surface tomorrow or early in the final as a result of being a little stiff from the previous match. He played a 5 hour semifinal match against Murray at the 2012 AO then beat Nadal in a 6 hour final.


Sidney Says:

JohnnyMac is the best ever.


the DA Says:

@Margot – A lot more stayed behind for this match than I expected. Not like Jo Willy at the FO. I also meant let-down in the sense of it can’t match the quality. Or could it? I expect very quick points and TBs.


Nirmal Kumar Says:

So many great matches over the years, but most of them had 2 bland sets. This is probably one of the top 5 matches where the both players played at absolute best level for atleast 4 sets. In a 5-setter to do that is a rarity. Hats off to both the guys.


Nikola Says:

FIRST SET UNDER 9 GAMES


Wog boy Says:

courbon,

Tebra, od ovoga srce oće da rikne.

How I am supposed to sleep now, 3:15am , time for brandy and Andy:)


Nikola Says:

ANDY wins it


Nikola Says:

Pa koliko vas prica po naski?


James Says:

@Kumar, some Fedfans here may not like that;) technically the guy is almost flawless.


Sidney Says:

Delpo’s movement in this match was fantastic! His shots were with so much pace, both forehand and backhand.

Hopefully, he can stay healthy for the next several years. He has what it takes to be the biggest challenger to Nole’s dominance and hold on the number 1 ranking.

Way to go Juan Martin! My brand new second favorite player!


courbon Says:

@ Nikola: Vazi majstore.Ovaj Wog Boy je Zemunac iz Australije!Da li ista vise treba da kazem?


Ben Pronin Says:

James, yeah but Djokovic struggled physically in their US Open encounter since he had to play Ferrer the day before.

There’s another match being played? Hasn’t the quota been filled today?

Djokovic hit 80 winners.


Wog boy Says:

Nikola

Strateski smo se rasporedili svuda po svetu, od Aljaske do Australije:)

Enjoy the song and “splavove”, most beautiful eyes in the video, song for all Nole fans. You don’t have to understand the words, just emotions.

Ziveli

http://youtu.be/_FHhM3n_D6E


James Says:

After watching this match, I don’t have the energy to go through another match. I hope Jerzy wins. Nothing against Andy. I just want JJ to continue his fairytale run.


courbon Says:

@ Margot: Hi there! First: Never, ever listen to Wog Boy> You are British so just remember Fools and Horses episode when they go to Australia-shall I say more?
Second: I’m builder and read Times and Guardian.Alsom lots of history and philoshopy.There you go for a cliqche?
Back to the tennis-I’m not sure who you support but what a match, wasn’it?


Wog boy Says:

Frenchie (courbon)

Have a drink on me, mate.


Ben Pronin Says:

James, I’m with you. No energy.


courbon Says:

@ Wog Boy: Ok, if you insist, I’ll have some cold wine ( very hot today 33 c ).Have a nice sleep and get ready for sunnday!


Ty Says:

Back to work. I’m the only one working in a building of seven stories and probably 50 offices.

All this in the middle of an American recession… well it shows in the work ethic.

Hope for another good one.


Brando Says:

Seconded, i’m taking a break after that epic.

A insane stat I have NEVER heard of before:

Delpo hit a shot- likely a winner- at 120 MPH according to one BBC commentator post match- that is insane!

McEnroe said it spot on for me: the game has won today since Delpo is back!

4h 40 min going toe to toe with the undisputed world no.1, best defense player on tour and the 6’6 warrior was an equal for most of the match, sometimes his better- WOW, just WOW.

I really hope Delpo stays fit and has better luck regarding his health as I honestly think there is no reason after this match why he cannot win another slam going forward!

Incredible match, well done to both for producing it!


Ben Pronin Says:

If this is what Del Potro can do with a bum knee, I don’t even wanna think about what he can do with perfectly healthy knees.


James Says:

Ben, I think Novak will be physically ready for the final on Sunday. A day’s rest should help. And if it’s Murray, it could go to a 5 set again.


Sidney Says:

Rooting for a Nole-Jerzy final! It would be an exciting title match. A lot more interesting than a Nole-Andy match.

Go Jerzy!


Brando Says:

‘If this is what Del Potro can do with a bum knee, I don’t even wanna think about what he can do with perfectly healthy knees.’:

Absolutely agree!

If anything this match was a win for him:

worrisome knee, worst surface, world no.1 as opponent and Delpo fought like a champ for over 4 and half hours against him- huge plus for him going forward.

Great display of mental strength and stamina today by him, as well as awesome tennis.

A big plus for him IMHO: I think next time he’ll be the winner when he has a close match v the top guns!


James Says:

Meanwhile, somewhere in Spain, Rafa is preparing for the American HC swing;)


Kimberly Says:

Janowicz just ha a massive serve


Humble Rafa Says:

If this is what Del Potro can do with a bum knee, I don’t even wanna think about what he can do with perfectly healthy knees.

I say this about myself every day.


James Says:

Brando, I knew Delpo would push Novak really hard. The impression I got his pre match interview was that he actually believed he could beat Novak like last year for the Olympic bronze. With that belief and confidence, I knew he was going to be hard to beat. But still I didn’t think it would take 5 sets for Novak to beat him. 4 was what I’d expected.


Sidney Says:

So far, Jerzy’s serves have been a handful!

Now getting to the business end of the 1st set.

Still on serve, with Jerzy serving at 4-5.


TennisZod Says:

Idemo Nole!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you so much Nole! Now you give me one more reason to laugh to Faderer and Claydal fans.


TennisZod Says:

Because Nole win I post again. No reason to hide. I know now Nole win final easy in 3 set. Who say he not? Will bet? You lose money if you is say Nole not win.


the DA Says:

This guy is hotting 116mph 2nd serves.


TennisZod Says:

Now I pray Murray lose. As Nole true fan no.1 I want easy opponent for Nole. Today make me nervous.

I think calling Rafa “claydal” not good. Kneedal better.


courbon Says:

@ Brando: You are spot on there.Delpo is back!


Ben Pronin Says:

What is this? And I thought Delpo smacked the ball hard. Janowicz isn’t far behind with his own mph.

Andy needs to be more aggressive. He practically hit a floater forehand on that first point and Janowicz pummeled it.


TennisZod Says:

That difficult name boy, beat Murry and keep crowd silent. They cheer Nole’s opponent. Bad crowd.


bojana Says:

Wog boy,

Thank You for nice song,our song.I am still shaking,and I do not know how I survive this,,,,

HAJDE NOLE,,,,,,,


Ben Pronin Says:

Is the crowd cheering for Janowicz?

This is a horribly played tiebreaker by Murray. He has to be aggressive. Otherwise he’ll live or die by Janowicz’s hand and that’s not a smart play judging by the emotion Jerzy is showing.


SenthilB Says:

Sampras Version II… WOW…


Ty Says:

Rut Roh George! Another clean ball striker.


Ben Pronin Says:

Ugly, ugly, ugly. I don’t think Janowicz will give up a 2 set to love lead the way Verdasco did. Murray needs to step up right now.


Sidney Says:

Jerzy wins first set!

Go Jerzy!


TennisZod Says:

I happy Nole show crowd they make mistake they cheer is opponent. Now they not forget that look and gesture of Nole.


andrea Says:

yeah! c’mon jerzy. nerves will eventually get to murray.


the DA Says:

There’s a large Polish contingent (including Jerzy’s box) – all doing the European slow hand clap. Bad TB but he’s got to remember he had 3 BPs on JJ’s serve.


Kimberly Says:

Murray using some choice language at the end of the tiebreak. He could make a dockworker blush!


the DA Says:

Break!


Brando Says:

@Courbon: thanks. Congrats to you on your favs win: he played an epic of a match! Classic match that was, amazing to watch!:-)


Ben Pronin Says:

Murray walked straight to the other side.


Brando Says:

@Kimberly: LMFAO: love the blush comment!:-)


Ben Pronin Says:

If this match goes 5, this Wimbledon will have had Wild Wednesday and Fantastic Friday.


El Flaco Says:

One thing that helps Delpo on grass when he plays guys like Djokovic, Murray or Nadal is the points end a little quicker so a long match is not as physical as it would be on hard court or clay. It doesn’t matter when Delpo plays Federer because Fed doesn’t work you over with long points as much.


Brando Says:

YES!!!Andy needs to take every chance JJ gives him. He cannot afford to let them pass as the first set showed: it shall come back and bite you in the arse!


Nirmal Kumar Says:

I’m really curious to see how Novak would return Janowicz serve on grass.


the DA Says:

What a wasted opportunity to get the double break. JJ had gone off the boil a bit in that game. Nerves of steel required to keep holding.


Okiegal Says:

What, no time violation warnings at Wimbledon?? What’s up with that? If that had been Rafa out there in that first match, the officials would have been all over him. I say call it the same for all tourneys. Is Wimbledon under different rules and regulations?

Another thing I am on my soapbox about. How could the tourney officials tell Fed he wasn’t allowed to wear tennis shoes with red soles and let Serena wear red under garments, and when her skirt blew up her bloomers were the size of a Stop Sign???? Give me a break!! I am a Serena fan and not a Fed fan, but I thought that was unfair to Roger. I think it shook him up a little bit…..and went on to get beat. Just wondering if he was bothered in any way by their actions. I Ann a Rafa fanatic and I thought it was so unfair for Roger. I ACTUALLY FELT SORRY FOR HIM.


Ben Pronin Says:

Not trying to provoke anyone but compared to Janowicz it’s hard to argue with calling Murray “Lady Forehand”. It looks like he just pushes the ball compared to Dirty Jerzy.


Ty Says:

@BEn

What has always puzzled me about Muzza is that he has the power to smack it, yet seldom does. The guy is no. 2 in the world, so you really can’t say much.


Brando Says:

@Ben: no offense taken. As a Muzza fan (well he’s a 2nd fav, and as a Brit my fav home sportsman- so I love him loads) it does piss me off when he gets called that. But…. Yep: his FH does like tame in comparison to many of the big boys. I wish he would just thump- he’s got the power to so so!


Ben Pronin Says:

I don’t think he’s capable of smacking it consistently. Or more likely he just doesn’t have the confidence of doing it consistently. Whereas a guy like Del Potro will just smack the living daylights out of the ball even if he’s down match point.


Brando Says:

@Ty: spot on re the power. It’s a mystery why he doesn’t thump it.


Okiegal Says:

C’mon Andy beat Jerzy and then on to beat Mole. Looks like Uncle Tony knows a little bit about tennis after all………JERSEY is in the semis of Wimbledon………who’d a thunk it!!!!!!


Ty Says:

Why is Murray allowed to put his hand up like that? I’ve always been taught that the server dictates the pace of play, no?

Janowicz is the best player I can imagine to play the villain here. What a perfect anti-hero. The stern, big, powerful game. The short temper. I love it.


Brando Says:

Guess who’s just popped in to the 5 live commentary booth? Only 2013 Wimbledon finalist Novak Djokovic. Is he tired? “A bit, of course,” he says. “I do have my recovery routines and I try to rest as much as I can, good nutrition, hydration and lots of stretching.” And will he watch the rest of the second semi-final? “Yeah – I will of course. We’ll do a match analysis – and I’ll enjoy it with my feet on the bed.”


Wog boy Says:

Is that Cliff Richards mother sitting next to him.


Ty Says:

That ‘lady forehand’ gettin it done on that point.


the DA Says:

@Ty – As someone commented he looks like Jaws from the Bond movies.


Ben Pronin Says:

Big hold for Murray.

Cahill criticizing Murray for allowing players back into matches. But sometimes you just gotta credit the other guy, Janowicz thwacking and smacking everything.


Ty Says:

JJ is competing for the title of “drop shot dragon”. I can’t remember the last player who held the title.


Ben Pronin Says:

This match is like the tiniest bit lower in quality than the previous semi and it feels like the entire audience knows it. This could very well turn out to be another classic but the emotion isn’t emitting as much. Not sure why.


Ben Pronin Says:

Dirty Jerzy is getting a little carried away with the giant second serves.


the DA Says:

^ because everyone’s on tenterhooks. They know a simple lapse could cost Andy a set. It’s the same with Isner/Karlovic matches.


Ty Says:

@Ben

There is a term in psychology that deals with the phenomenon. I believe it’s called habituation. The more you stimulate an organism, the less it reacts. It’s difficult to remain engaged, no matter the stimulus. Or they’re just drunk. Either way.


the DA Says:

Jerzy is asking them to switch on the lights. I think they’re going to have to close the roof to finish this. Advantage JJ in that case IMO. No wind.


Ben Pronin Says:

Here I’ll say if Murray wins set 3, he wins set 4 easily. If Janowicz eeks out set 3, then Murray probably wins in 5.

Even though Janowicz is doing good in giving Murray fits, I don’t think he’s consistent enough to pull this off.


Polo Says:

This match is way so far off in quality to the Djokovic-del Potro match. The first two set are not high caliber tennis by any stretch of the imagination.


Ty Says:

@Polo

I agree with you w.r.t. quality; however I feel the drama is there. In a way.


the DA Says:

Ooh Jerzy giving the umpire a bit of attitude about closing the roof: “Don’t tell me it’s one hour or even more…tell me exactly the time,” he says.


Pitchaboy Says:

This site has fanatics, not fans. A guy at his peak always looks awesome. But to contend that Novak is greater than Fed is ludicrous. There is a matter of 11 GS difference, weeks at No 1, blah, blah, blah. Keep it real.


the DA Says:

Matches against huge servers are rarely of a high quality. Trying to remember one.


Ty Says:

LOL@commentators:

“He’s not so much serving the ball as assaulting it.”


the DA Says:

Clutch serving.


Ty Says:

Strong hold.


El Flaco Says:

Jerzy making the mistake of not covering the up the middle serve on big points on the ad side. Murray loves that serve when he is facing a break point.


the DA Says:

Jerzy still harassing the umpire about the roof.


skeezer Says:

Ben,

Agree on that. Jerzy’s youth is coning through. He does not attack Murrays second serve when given the opportunity. Nole won’t let Murray off the hook on that.


Ben Pronin Says:

That was a great attack of the second serve.


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Looking at this match so far, can’t imagine either of them competing against Novak.


El Flaco Says:

Break point. Let’s see if Jerzy covers the slice up the middle.


El Flaco Says:

He stayed home and Murray hit it right to him. Great drop shot.


the DA Says:

Brainfart!


Ben Pronin Says:

Quick side note, anyone else ridiculously excited for the Byrans Golden Slam that could be achieved tomorrow?

Greatest doubles team ever by far. I hope they don’t succumb to the pressure.


Ty Says:

JJ is going to own royalties to Hewitt.


Ben Pronin Says:

What happened? My feed cut out.


Ty Says:

Sorry, *owe royalties to Hewitt. He pulled out the lawnmower fist pump.


skeezer Says:

Re; Bryans
I’ll be watchin!


skeezer Says:

JJ broke


Danny Morris Says:

“I don’t think he’s capable of smacking it consistently. Or more likely he just doesn’t have the confidence of doing it consistently. Whereas a guy like Del Potro will just smack the living daylights out of the ball even if he’s down match point.”

Well said ben. Claydal and lady-forehand are deep-set in their defensive mindsets. they have 0 confidence to be aggressive with their game-plan. The day mandy does that, he will win a wimbledon – not this year, for sure.

atleast claydal’s forehand is average outside clay [certainly inferior to federer, delpo and gonzo, jerzy and the likes]. the fanged one’s forehand is an absolute joke. he was lucky to win that USO. that is why he is 1-5 in GS finals. he has to rely on the other player effing it up to win a GS match.

Just look at how nando and jerzy are treating this guy like he is some club player. It is ok to lose a match, but to get bossed around on a tennis court, you lose your dignity. Very much like what Gulbis said to nadal in Rome. Everyone knows who the better player is.

Nole had a close match today, but he paid back delpo’s shots with his own firepower. mandy and claydal [sometimes even on clay] get pulled around the court like they are a puppy. Go check USO 2009 semis highlights: delpo absolutely manhandled nadal – 6 games was all claydal managed. with claydal and mandy, you get the feeling they are at the mercy of the big-hitters. if the big-hitters bring their best, there really is not much these ball-fetchers can do.

Sampras/Fed/Nole – they fight fire with fire. How many times do you see federer/nole outhit in the winners? maybe 10-15%. mandy/claydal – it is the reverse. they get outhit 85-90% of the times. That is why Gulbis is justified in thinking he is a better player than these 2. He just has too much fun and life to come out and prove it to them. besides, if he already knows it, what has he got to prove? same goes for safin. he is an infinitely better player than mandy/rafa. he just does not have a controlling-freak of an uncle/mum to get him to give up his fun-life and prove it.

getting back to center court. it is so obvious jerzy is going to be a future no.1 and Wimbledon champ. i hope he can set up the final that everyone want to see. nolewicz!

come on jerzy! the world is at your feet. Go ahead and claim it.


Kimberly Says:

djokovic ready for big hitters after berdych and delpo, janowicz ball will feel right in line, murrays may actually feel slow!


Brando Says:

“Looking at this match so far, can’t imagine either of them competing against Novak.”: Agreed! Novak will make mincemeat out of the winner based on this showingso far!


Danny Morris Says:

“Greatest doubles team ever by far. I hope they don’t succumb to the pressure.”

Me too. What great ambassadors for the sport. I would like to see Federer/sampras play a doubles exho against those 2 in madison square garden!


Ty Says:

Poor Mandy complaining that “the other guy is talking to me”. What a sissy!


Ty Says:

I hope he loses now.


Kimberly Says:

Very much like what Gulbis said to nadal in Rome. Everyone knows who the better player is

Yes and Gulbis fantastic record against Rafa proves that he is the better player. And of course comparing their titles one can clearly see Gublis the better player.


Danny Morris Says:

I cannot say this enough. Good to see bigger guys coming in to re-claim Wimbledon that originally belonged to them. They will have to further slow-down the courts to prevent janowicz from winning atleast 3 or maybe even 5 in a row. I can’t see him beating nole on sunday and he is still not out of the woods with lady-forehand, but next year he is going to be coming with an even well-honed big-boy game. I would love to see a nolewicz rivalry at wimbledon the next few years. Fed might do the occasional cameo like he did in 2012.


Ty Says:

Andy Murray – the financially supported, actress girlfriend having, 15 physio watched, upper-class national hero

vs

JJ – the van driving, up from the bottom, big hitting, scrapper.

storylines are endless.


the DA Says:

Fabulous way to get the break back.


Brando Says:

That’s it Muzza!


volley Says:

talking during a point is a hindrance. it’s in the rules.


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Janco is really making a fool out of himself with those dropshots. Little bit of smartness, the match is in his hand. It would be a pity if Andy has to get through to finals, with the kind of tennis he is playing.


Alex Says:

CMOOOON Murray!


the DA Says:

@ Ty – Well, Jerzy is constantly whining about the roof.


Ben Pronin Says:

Ty, what happened?

Murray stepping it up with some great passing shots. Looks like he might run away with it based on how things have turned.


Danny Morris Says:

Kimberly:

don’t take it heart. As I mentioned, Gulbis/Safin know what matters in life. When you have millions of dollars, there is lot more fun things to do than teaching mandy/claydal tennis lessons. Just because those 2 dudes do not have a life, does not mean Gulbis/Safin should sacrifice their life.

You set-up a winner takes all match in MSG [indoor by the way, go check claydal's record there and safin's] and you offer a date with some super model or maybe 10 supermodels as a prize and you will have gulbis/safin focussing like claydal/mandy.


Ty Says:

Damn, Murray is one hell of a smart dude. He got in the young guy’s head.


Kimberly Says:

I made someone replay a point against me today because the guy thought he missed the shot screamed that is sh** and the ball dropped in and I didn’t go for it. Considered taking the point but didn’t want to fight about.


the DA Says:

Muzzah! He finally gets in the zone and breaks.


andrea Says:

it never ceases to amaze me how the british fans get into a frenzy about the prospects of a scot winning wimbledon.

i guess they just want to gloss over the fact that even if andy wins, a true brit has still not won wimbledon.


volley Says:

he really is the villain now after smashing his racquet against the net. crowd did not like that.


Brando Says:

Look at what smacking the FH does for Andy? Amazing player when he goe for the kill!


Ty Says:

@kimberly.

that sounds like a pampered move. Play through adversity.


Danny Morris Says:

I don’t think lady-forehand would even a set if this match was on the faster indoor courts or even USO. what a travesty to see a wonderful fast-court player being worn-down by a passive counter puncher with a forehand weaker than serena/sharapova’s!


Ty Says:

I hope JJ embraces his ordained role and runs with it. Staring down the crowd, the linesmen, Murray, the works. Why not? If Andy is going to get all the good energy, may as well soak up the bad.


Danny Morris Says:

“Damn, Murray is one hell of a smart dude. ”

LOL! really? are our standards so low? do you think lindsay lohan is smart too?


Danny Morris Says:

I love jerzy’s attitude. he should win the match and tell the crowd what nole told the madrid crowd or shush the crowd like berdych did to the same boorish madrid crowd!


Brando Says:

Yes! Go get it now Muzza!


Ty Says:

Analyze the situation, my dear Danny. He was getting blown off the court and through a few fist pumps, complaints, and frustrations has ended up turning this entire crowd against his opponent. Sure he may not be an “international financial analyst” or whatever you’ve claimed to be while posting on a tennis forum during work hours, but surely his intellect can be dismissed on a tennis court?


Ty Says:

*can’t be dismissed.


the DA Says:

JJ pulls a Lendl. “Andy will remember that” says the commies. haha


Brando Says:

Ths is complete bulls!!t. It’s not even dark!


Ben Pronin Says:

Woooooooow. Blood rivalry between Murray and Janowicz has begun!!


El Flaco Says:

Murray has killed Janowicz with the slice serve out wide in the deuce court and slice up the middle in the ad all day. Big mistake not taking that away from Murray because it is his most consistent first serve. His hard, flat serves are low percentage.


the DA Says:

Andy’s pissed. JJ gets his way over the roof. Loss of momentum.


van orten Says:

hows the score?


Ty Says:

I love it

CAN WE GET FIVE PLEASE TENNIS GODS!!!???


Alex Says:

Pathetic! Janco must lose. What a crybaby, compare the light here to the Fedal final, unbelievable.


the DA Says:

The Wimbledon committee might end up regretting giving in to JJ. They are so weak.


Danny Morris Says:

This is exactly why I dislike clay. It lets mediocre players like ferrer or spanish clay-courter take down talented shot-makers like tsonga/berdych.

Sad to see this happen at wimbledon – I am sure murray would not win a set on the wimbledon of 90s. Shame on you ATP for slowing the surfaces and making counterpunchers like claydal/mandy look better than they actually are.

Atleast all is not lost with Federer/Nole overcoming these conditions to rise to the top of the GOAT list.


Brando Says:

Man is this grossly unfair! Whatever happened to common sense? Why the roof ?


andrea Says:

c’mon jj. re group and take it in five!

totally agree with the roof…playing with poor light is not great for either player.

not surprised about andy complaining….he seemed to think the roof closing benefited roger last year in the final.


El Flaco Says:

Jerzy fell apart in that set so the break has a potential double benefit. It lets him regain his composure and play indoors.


Ty Says:

Damn, sorry Danny. Didn’t mean to pick. I blame the emotion of the match. I hope this one goes five.


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Though i’m not a big fan of tennis Andy is playing, this closing of roof is unjustified. I still believe he is going to come through.


skeezer Says:

“compare the light here to the Fedal final”.

yes, the way that ended, they had to play in the dark. there was no lights. Thats why they have them now. and oh, by the way, you don’t turn on tennis lights when it gets dark. play much?


the DA Says:

Are the players allowed to meet their coaches while the roof closes? I hope so. Lendl would know exactly what to say to keep him on an even keel.


skeezer Says:

^yes


Kimberly Says:

they are doing the right thing by closing the roof, brad gilbert was saying it would be unfair to close it late in the set. But Janowicz whining about it earlier makes it annoying.


the DA Says:

^ good. Did anyone see the way JJ waved to the crowd as he returned? hehe..he’s not only trying to get under Andy’s skin but the crowd’s.


Danny Morris Says:

What kind of clowns run the show at wimbledon? They might have just deprived the tennis world a blockbuster final. Does anyone want to see mandy get torn apart by nole? claydal, who has a 3-0 h2h on lady-forehand on grass was ripped apart clean by nole in 2011, and nole is playing the best grass-court tennis of his life, even considering the challenge he received from the 2nd best semi-finalist this year!


Ty Says:

Jeez…

I feel like even the chair umpire is against JJ. the way he’s saying 30-love! 40-love! it seems overly enthused.

I’m hoping for another two sets of bloody, contentious tennis.


the DA Says:

Andy has hit 39 winners to JJ’s 35.


Ty Says:

Djokovic survives a war.

Murray survives a war.

It’s the way a final should be.


Danny Morris Says:

me too Ty! with JJ winning, ofcourse! I didnot the brits were so desperate for muzza to win! he has not played a single top 20 player in his 6 matches, has he?

when was the last time anyone had such a cushy draw at SW19? let me check the numbers


the DA Says:

Andy breaks! Best answer to the situation.


Ty Says:

The Gods have been good today. One more request: let this one go to a fifth??!!


volley Says:

“he has not played a single top 20 player in his 6 matches”

kind of like federer in 2008.


Ty Says:

Wow.

I know I’m getting involved now. Even Murray’s GF is starting to annoy me.


TennisZod Says:

Lose Murray! Comon JJ, beat Andy. Janowicz better easy opponent for Nole. I want Nole win Wimbledon. Andy is danger. JJ, take Andy out.


Ty Says:

TZ: Nole isn’t playing dude. Go away.


Sidney Says:

Come on, Jerzy! Fight back!

You can do this!!!

His serves have noticeably slowed by a few ticks from the first 2 sets.


Ty Says:

Jerzy has a serve that can go off the rails IMO. He doesn’t have a very reliable motion it seems. There is a lot of arm and shoulder in it. Too much can go wrong. Nole’s serve is a permissible antithesis. There isn’t much that can go wrong with it; thought it obviously lacks the power.


Ty Says:

*though

(puts up the beer)


TennisZod Says:

Ty, but Nole final opponent play. So as Nole no.1 fan I see his opponent. I dont want Andy. JJ beat him. Do it for world best player No1e.


Danny Morris Says:

here is the line-up fed faced in 2008:

hrabty in 1st round :guy has winning h2h vs both fed and claydal.

then soderling [had almost taken claydal out of wimbledon the year before and ofcourse a year later he hammered claydal on clay], hewitt, ancic, safin [beat nole]

this is the lin-up claydal faced:

gulbis, kiefer, youzhny, murray[federer kept kicking mandy's behind at slams, till last year. 3-1 in slams], and that grass courtplayer rainer schuttler. LOL!

only a zod like da/volley would think claydal/mandy’s draws are tougher than what fed/nole faced in 08 and 13 respectively.

I am sure nole being same age, will not be worn down by the ball-fetcher, however slow these courts.

he will avenge all the injustice meted out to the young champ JJ!

come on Nole. it is not tennis anymore. you really have to fight all the brits waiting for a wimbledon champ for 150million years or so!


the DA Says:

What a point!


TennisZod Says:

nooooooooooooooo!!! JJ break back comon!


TennisZod Says:

Danny Morris, you mention me? What you want? I have high tennis IQ. If you want you and me discuss tennis take quiz. If you not far let play tennis match. I want know if you good or talking only in forum. I wanna see if I beat you 6-0 or you can win 1 game.


andrea Says:

ugh. men’s tennis is increasingly the lesser of two evils for me. now i have to root for novak.


the DA Says:

Andy you star!! This is the 4th GS final in a row.


Danny Morris Says:

a sad day for tennis. the day britain and wimbledon authorities shamelessly showed their desperation to get the albatross off their neck.

JJ will come back and win multiple wimbledons one day – very likely as no.1. I doubt lady-forehand will. What a joke he made out of himself and the wimbledon authorities made out of themselves!


TennisZod Says:

rubbish match. I hope Nole beat Britain boy in final 6-0 6-2 6-0


Danny Morris Says:

4th gs in a row?

oh ok, so FO didn’t really happen i guess. i am pleasantly surprised that a murray fan-troll with no tennis knowledge would say the obvious thing, but I hope claydal fans have noticed what lady-forehand and his fans think of clay.

claydal fans, now that even andy and his fans have shown you their true colors regarding clay, you should join hands with juan monaco and almagro fans. I am sure they think FO is the greatest slam in tennis. LOL!


TennisZod Says:

Danny Morris, I wait you reply. Let me know if you not afraid for tennis quiz and match. Dont worry I dont eat you. I not cannibal.


Brando Says:

Justice has been served there.

It was wrong to close the roof at that moment but Andy held his nerve and made sure it fired him to the win.

Andole it is then: let’s get it on!


the DA Says:

@Danny Morris – Don’t be so bitter, go and a have a large drink. I’ll send you th emoney via PayPal.

Oh and you haven’t answered volley’s point about Federer’s path to the final at Wimbledon 2008. I’d love to see that response.

#cheers


Sidney Says:

Good match, Jerzy!

Congrats to Andy! He gets another chance to win his home slam. Good luck to him!

On Sunday, the place will either be rocking or sobbing (again) :)

Go Nole!


James Says:

So Andy won the match. How did he play? Didn’t bother watching the match after the Delpo-Djokovic epic.


Sidney Says:

Justice is served “only when it suits you” is what you meant, right? You’re funny. Not.


James Says:

Haha so we had Jerzy and Andy play the 2nd semi final and here we have some posters (or maybe one) keen to discuss two players no longer in the tournament.


Brando Says:

@the DA:

Awesome and surprising stat that.

The big plus today is:

1- Andy seemed to have a better 2nd serve than prior matches. He wasn’t just tossing it in but actually playing to a plan of controlling a point.

2- The FH had more oomph the longer the match went on.

I think the key to this was: Muzza got pissed off and and threw the kitchen sink into the contest.

When Andy’s fired up: he’s got the game to beat ANYONE on grass or HC.

And that’s what he needs to do on sunday: be fired up and just go for it.

Like Delpo: leave it all out on court and walk of with your head held high, free from any ‘what if’s’ as you fully well know: you gave it your all.

Do that and he’ll be a pleased man: whatever fate has in store for him!


Sidney Says:

I have a hunch on what’s going to happen on Sunday.

Lots in the audience will need rolls of ‘Scot’ tissue.


El Flaco Says:

Ty Says:
Jerzy has a serve that can go off the rails IMO. He doesn’t have a very reliable motion it seems. There is a lot of arm and shoulder in it. Too much can go wrong. Nole’s serve is a permissible antithesis. There isn’t much that can go wrong with it; thought it obviously lacks the power.
- – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – -
His ball toss is too high which will make it less accurate and the timing more difficult as the ball is accelerating downward when you make contact.


Brando Says:

@James:

Completely agree!

WHY would ANYONE want to discuss Fedal when both are long gone from this tourny?

WHY on earth would you do so especially after 2 cracking matches today?


James Says:

@Brando, how was Andy playing today? Who do you reckon will win the Andole final?


the DA Says:

@Brando – Yes I agree with that. But remember, it’s really hard to get any rhythm going against a player like JJ. You’re constantly lunging just to return serves and get into position to tee off. I think against Nole he’ll have more opportunities to get into rallies and be more aggressive. I still remember the Olympic match clearly – he played that match perfectly. Time for some chamomile tea.


James Says:

“WHY would ANYONE want to discuss Fedal when both are long gone from this tourny?”

ummm because for some tennis is all about Fedal, the prince and the beast?


Brando Says:

@the DA:

Very true re rhythm.

Enjoy your tea: you deserve it after that attack on the nerves by Muzza! :-)


Colin Says:

What has happened to this goddam forum? It’s infested with dorks without two brain cells between them.
Ty – if you want to attack someone,try to get a few FACTS to work with.
A) Andy Murray is not remotely upper class
B) His girlfriend is not an actress. Furthermore she has a university degree and is probably three times brighter than you are.

Andrea, get a twelve year old kid to give you a geography lesson. All Scots (and Welsh and English) are “true Brits”. Next time you buy something online, and you check your country of residence on that menu, try to find Scotland (or England or Wales or Northern Ireland). You won’t All you’ll find is “United Kingdom”.

Dunny Morris, where do I start regarding your drivel?
Andy and Rafa don’t have lives? They are both vastly more wealthy than you’ll ever be and they both have beautiful girlfriends. How much do you have in the bank, sunshine? Does your girlfriend/wife look like a film star, eh? No, I thought not.


Margot Says:

Andy raised his game when he needed to and OUTSERVED JJ, way to go! Think JJ got under his skin with his antics and made Andy cross! Good!
Come on!


Brando Says:

@James:

Re Fedal: LOL, very true.

Re Andole:

Firstly Andy played his best match today IMO.

He was fired up, intense, proactive in his play, struck the FH with authority and hit his 2nd serve looking to construct the point on his terms post set 1 for me today.

He showed….. steely resolve for me.

The final?

Novak is the obvious fav.

We know that and rightly so.

But you bet your last dollar that Muzza can win that one.

For me as far as Andy is concerned it’s all about his: attitude.

Will he be passive and wait for Novak to make mistakes?

Or will he go for it: hitting his FH with authority and his 2nd serve with intent.

Should he go for it then for me- and just my OPINION- I think on grass he is at least Novak’s equal and possibly his better.

All I want is:

1- Muzza to go for it.

2- The crowd to create a atmosphere like the Olympics: show their love regardless of anything for their home fav.

And I’ll sign out now with:

GO MUZZA!


Margot Says:

Lol DA am as high as a kite, think I do need some chamomile tea too.
@Colin
Don’t bother…and we all know what “investment bankers” are called in the REAL world, don’t we?
Sometimes life’s ironies are just too sweet.
@courbon
But what Wog Boy didn’t say is that I love all things French..*wub*


Margot Says:

@ Brando
Just read your post and agree with every word.
All I want too is for Andy to lay his life on the court. If he does that, he can win.


skeezer Says:

Congrats to Muzza fans. Will he make history?

He got out served imo cause he didn’t attack Murrays second serve enough. He would wait for it. If Murray doesn’t feel pressure on his second serve he gets his first flowing more and more in the match. It will be very interesting to see how his serve holds up against Nole, who I am still picking to win. If Murray wins, its not that bad of a story, no?
:)


the DA Says:

@skeeezer – No, not that bad a story. One I’d buy ;)

Apparently Andy is dropping zingers left and right in his presser. Can’t wait to see the transcript.


Ty Says:

Colin man,

You haven’t been here all day and show up to diss posters that have? OK.

I was simply setting a scene my man. Come down off the horse. We’re all going to die anyways. So get your head outta the books and ease up.

She may have a degree, sure; but the real fulcrum to her intelligence is that she’s sitting in the damn royal box at Wimbledon while you and I are at our homes posting on a tennis blog. And one of us is insisting how dumb another is. Here’s my turn: Intelligence is relative. And if you’d like to go into that this is NOT the place. ANYONE can get a college degree. So please, I beg you, let it go.

What a great day of tennis. Two great matches and I believe the final will be even better. Thank you tennis Gods. ANd thank you for the great discussion.

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