Tennis-toberfest: Nadal v Djokovic In Beijing, Delpo v Raonic In Tokyo; Picks And Pans
by Sean Randall | October 5th, 2013, 12:07 pm
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The first Sunday in October isn’t only reserved for great football, but also for tennis. And that tennis is being played in Asia where all four tournament favorites reached finals this week.

In Beijing, the best rivalry in tennis continues with Rafael Nadal against Novak Djokovic. And just east in Tokyo Juan Martin Del Potro meets Milos Raonic.

First to the main event in Beijing.

Rafael Nadal v Novak Djokovic
They will meet for a 38th time and for the fifth time this year. Rafa leads 22-15 overall winning the last three since Djokovic rudely stopped his Monte Carlo run.

As for today, Djokovic went down a break early before recovering to drill Richard Gasquet 6-4, 6-2. It was even easier for Nadal who got an early retirement from Tomas Berdych. Rafa led 4-2 in the first when Czech surrendered with a back injury.

The win of course moves Nadal back to No. 1, a spot he’ll likely hold until March.

“I worked hard every day with the right attitude I think, and because of that, I am today in this situation,” said Nadal. “I am No. 1 today, but it’s not [assured] for the end of the season.”

“I [won't] go to sleep tonight feeling that I am the best player of the world. That’s something that I never thought, and I don’t… think [that] now today,” said Nadal. “I played a very complete season, and that’s why I am the best in the rankings today.”

Now in this series, we know the matchup here, we know the history. Djokovic, though, has won all 18 matches at this Beijing event, however Nadal did beat him at the 2008 Beijing Olympics played on the same court.

“I know tomorrow I going to have a very tough opponent. I need to play my best, playing aggressive, playing without mistakes, being solid with my serve. If these kind of things are not happening, I will not have chances,” said Nadal. “I know what I have to do [but] it’s very difficult to do it, because the level of the opponent is unbelievable.”

Nadal already has his No. 1 ranking back and as I said yesterday, I think the hardcourt streak might be weighing him down a little – he can’t keep winning on his least favorite surface, can he? Nadal very nearly lost to Fabio Fognini Friday before coming back from a set and a break down to the Italian. Djokovic is no Fognini and even though the Serb hasn’t been playing at his highest level and even though that mental block he’s had against Nadal may be back, he needs this one more. A lot more.

With no titles since Monte Carlo he’s got to get a win.

Then there’s Rafa.

“I fight for every week, I fight every match,” Nadal reminded as if there was ever any doubt.

Winning breeds more winning and Rafa’s been doing a lot of that this year. He’s been the best.

So Nadal might be is the better player here, he’s owned Novak dishing out three crushing losses. But I think Novak just needs this more so I’ll lean his way.

Going with the guy who needs the win…
The pick: Djokovic in three

Now for Tokyo.

Juan Martin Del Potro v Milos Raonic
The matchup in Tokyo features two of the biggest bruisers in the game. Few hit harder off the ground than Del Potro and you could easily make the case Raonic has the best serve in the business right now.

These two met in a controversial showdown in Canada this summer, won by Raonic when he didn’t acknowledge he hit the net late in the second set. A key moment that Del Potro never really recovered from.

As you have read from me, I’m a huge Del Potro fan. I think he’s the better player of the two and after the Montreal incident he’s got some extra motivation, some payback if you will. And Raonic strikes me as such a nice, friendly guy, so maybe he’ll feel bad about how things went in their only other meeting.

Even if the roof is closed, which would help Raonic, I still like Delpo to handle Milos’s missile-like serves and leave Japan with a title.
The pick: Del Potro in two


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106 Comments for Tennis-toberfest: Nadal v Djokovic In Beijing, Delpo v Raonic In Tokyo; Picks And Pans

Tennis X Hippy Chic Says:

Sean picks Novak in 3,and Delpo in 2,so im wondering now about the so called Sean Randall jinx,personally i have never believed in jinxs or curses,its all an imaginary concept,you make your own luck in this world IMO.


Brando Says:

I think Nole will win. He needs it. And he’s the been better than Rafa this week. For me though the main event is in Japan: really hope Delpo spanks Milos’s behind in Tokyo! Vamos Delpo!


Perfect fan Says:

rafa and raonic r my picks….

I simply love delpo….but somehow my gut feeling is that raonic will scrape thru.


courbon Says:

Not a bad day for Serbian tennis-Novak and Jelena both in the final.
@ Brando: I thought VAMOS is only for Rafa?


Perfect fan Says:

well some news for tennis hungry people:

novak has drawn fed in the las’ 8 showdown in shanghai….

this cud be the first match b/n the two this season :P


Teeg Says:

The court and the fast conditions definitely make Novak the favourite. I expect a thrilling final in both Beijing and Tokyo.


Patson Says:

Whoever wins the first set will win the match. Unlike their previous matches, Nole knows the first set will be very important, so he’ll come out guns blazing.

I am with Sean, but I say Nole in 2.It will be more like Monte Carlo. The loss won’t hurt Rafa’s confidence because he’d know why he lost which is different from a loss where you don’t know what you need to do to win. The win will help Nole’s confidence and set him up well for Shanghai, Paris, and the YEC.

Disclaimer: I’m not responsible if none of this happens.


Teeg Says:

@Perfect Fan

I saw that. That would be an interesting match. Roger seems very motivated and eager in Shanghai. Whose draw do you think is the toughest?


Teeg Says:

@Patson

The first set winner is always a good indicator in the outcome of their matches. Rafa cannot afford a slow start, as Novak thrives in these conditions and will look to pounce early. I’m a believer in Rafa though, and I hope he solidifies his return to no.1 with the win.


Perfect fan Says:

@ teeg: fed is having one hell of a path….first rnd against either Hewitt or seppi(both quality players)….next cud be either monfils or gasquet….then nole….if still thrived….rafa.

this is the best test fed cud hav asked for….if he’s gonna win one, he better earn it.

well TBVH….I won’t be surprised, if he exits 1st rnd….very disgusting words from a fed fan, but i’ll rly love him to amaze me from now on ;)


Patson Says:

With Nole and Rafa, it’s more like whoever paints the lines wins the matches. The margin is so thin; it’s a game of inches between the two.

Bow to the two greatest gladiators of our times.


nitesh Says:

novak needs to win
rafa knows he can beat novak on hc
will be an intresting contest


Brando Says:

@Courbon:

LOL, its for all the spanish speaking amigo’s! :-)

Side news:

What a wonderful afternoon seeing Manchester United FINALLY play some good football.

And that wonderful wonderkid ADNAN JANUZAJ: ONLY 18 and he’s oozes so much class already.

Folks who love football need to keep an eye on him!

GO UNITED!

And for you Courbon:

VAMOS RAFA! :-)


Teeg Says:

@Perfect Fan

The thing with Roger is that he must keep his intensity level up. He can play brilliant tennis for moments at a time, then he completely goes off. He can’t afford that as he’s getting older and it will only become increasingly difficult to hang around with the younger guys. That being said, Roger typically plays great this time of year. So there is every belief that he will be a factor in the coming tournaments.

@Patson

Fully agreed. They are the two biggest fighters on a tennis court I’ve ever seen. True warriors.


Perfect fan Says:

in the rafa-nole match, my gut feeling is that it’ll be a straight set match….whoever wins it.

I pick rafa though.


Giles Says:

Vamos Rafa! Into another final! Good luck Champ!
#NewWorld#1
#StayHealthy


queen Says:

Schmovak Schmokovic will win tomorrow. But that’s ok. Rafa is the better one this year anyway.


Kimberly Says:

Congrats to Rafa on being back to numero uno!


Tennis X Hippy Chic Says:

Its the 3rd time now that Rafas been at world number 1,i didnt think he would get there again,in fact i thought he would fall out of the top 5,if im been completely honest,so im pleasantly surprised.


Teeg Says:

@TXHC

Lol…oh ye of little faith.


Tennis X Hippy Chic Says:

Teeg yeah the haters said it that much,so i convinced myself it wasnt worth wasting nervous energy by worrying about it anymore,let them think what they want,say what they want,and have their pound of flesh,their perogative.


courbon Says:

@ Brando: Ah, finally good play from MU! I haven’t seen the kid-I’ll watch it! I started playing football last week after 22 years (I swim, play basket sometimes but no football ) and pulled my mussels badly. Ah, such is a misery of middle age man
..I also support Delpo tomorrow.
Thanks for Vamos-I’m flattered.
And tomorrow?
Let the best man win.


Tennis X Hippy Chic Says:

I am delighted with what Rafas done this year in terms of tennis,as happy as i was when he won the FO for the 8th time,for me winning the USO was the most special with it been a HC GS,as it added another string to the bow of his legacy,however the big highlight of the year for me and the most special moment was our Andy winning Wimbledon,i still cry even now when watching highlights,have to say if Nole had won Wimbledon instead im not a sore looser,i would have said a quick congrats to all his lovely fans on this forum Courbon,Mat4,Wogboy,Harry,Jane,Duro etc etc,but i wouldnt have been able to take Danny Morris posts as i think this forum would have been unbearable.


Rick Says:

Sean jinxed Berdych with an injury yesterday! And will jinx Nole today! Unlike other players, when Rafa is in your head, it is impossible to get him out! Ask Federer and Berdych! ;-)


Rick Says:

And recently, Rafa is in Djokovic’s head! The US Open, Roland Garros, Wimbledon defeats did serious damages to Nole’s confidence!


Rick Says:

It will be more likely for Nole’s streak in Beijing, coming to an end since he is the defender for the title!


Tennis X Hippy Chic Says:

After all those defeats that Rafa suffered at the hands of Nole in 2011,he had to go back to the drawing board any try and solve the Nole riddle,well he managed to do just that,he seems more confident now in that match up,not saying he will always beat Nole obviously,but he does seem less anxious now.


Tennis X Hippy Chic Says:

Rick after the Wimbledon defeat to Murray,Nole has not only Rafa,but now Murray has a new found confidence when facing Nole now.


Rick Says:

And his recent lost to the number 1 ranking, is another blow to Nole’s confidence!


courbon Says:

@ Hippy Chic: You just remind me of my lost comrades…I miss Wog Boy and jane.Duro, Harry, Mat4 are still around, but I hope other two come back one day.Withoout cynicsm and wittiness-you are very sweet ( as seen in your last post, among others ).I’m not hitting on you-you are married, I’m married- just as one blogger to another. (-:


Tennis X Hippy Chic Says:

Courbon thankyou you too ditto,i miss them all too,i have always for the most part had a pretty good raport with each fan group,i enjoyed posts from Fed fans like Swiss Maestro,Ajet,Grendel,Huh,indeed i hope they all return at some point.


Gordo Says:

The race to LONDON – the top 8 get to play. With Murray unlikely to play that means the top 9.

Here is the current year’s standings right now.

1. R. Nadal(ESP) 11,015
2 N. Djokovic(SRB) 8,110
3. A. Murray(GBR) 5,805
4 D. Ferrer(ESP) 4,900
5. T. Berdych(CZE) 3,575
6 J. Del Potro(ARG) 3,365
7. R. Federer(SUI) 3,055
8 S. Wawrinka(SUI) 2,970
9. R. Gasquet(FRA) 2,815
10 J. Tsonga(FRA) 2,605
11. M. Raonic(CAN) 2425

Here is what the race to London will look like once Tokyo and Beijing are complete -

1. R. Nadal(ESP) 11,315 or 11,515 if he wins Beijing.
2 N. Djokovic(SRB) 8,410 or 8,610 if he wins Beijing.
3. A. Murray(GBR) 5,805
4 D. Ferrer(ESP) 4,990
5. T. Berdych(CZE) 3,755
6 J. Del Potro(ARG) 3,665 or 3,865 if he wins Tokyo.
7. R. Federer(SUI) 3,055
8 S. Wawrinka(SUI) 3,015
9. R. Gasquet(FRA) 2,995
10. M. Raonic(CAN) 2,725 or 2,925 if he wins Tokyo.
11. J. Tsonga(FRA) 2,650

It’s going to be interesting, especially with Raonic and Wawrinka looking to meet in the 3rd round of Shanghai, where Federer will likely meet Gasquet, also in the third round.

Gasquet has to play Pospisil in the first round of Shanghai and the Canadian would love nothing better than to win and help his countryman Raonic’s chances of finishing in the top 8.


Okiegal Says:

@Chic 5:15 I agree wholeheartedly to that post. Seven months at the drawing board made the difference. Rafa is a brilliant player…..I guess I will have to give Uncle Tony kudos too.

Hope Rafa can win……we gonna see, no?

Vamos…….Okiegal is raring to cheer you on……now if my OKLAHOMA SOONERS can beat the Hornfrogs and Rafa wins….I will be happy happy happy!!!!


Humble Rafa Says:

First, you are welcome. It was my pleasure to bring you the number ranking through me.

You are indeed very blessed to witness this momentous event.


Michael Says:

It is difficult to predict the winner in Rafa Vs Novak match. But, the edge is certainly with Rafa. Though, Sean has gone against conventional opinion and favoured Novak, I think he will find the going tough considering the kind of form Rafa is in at the moment. Novak must be in the top of his game to fancy a win which he needs very badly to bolster his confidence for the battles ahead. I think this match is quite crucial for Novak more than Rafa and the winner here might just have the added momentum going forward. May the better player win.


metan Says:

Sean.
Agree with your pick. Hope you don’t jinx Nole, ;-).


gonzalowski Says:

Novak serving great these first games and totally controlling his serves. Rafa looks a bit nervous.
The match goes fast.


courbon Says:

So far, so good…


gonzalowski Says:

and 6-3 in 35 min.
Commentators saying that Nadal has to be agressive… but Nole breaks in the first. Rafa strugglin’, as usually.
Now 4-3 Nole doesn’t go so strong now.


courbon Says:

And that’s how recovery starts! Not important win in the sense of ranking, points and overall picture but good for mental recovery of Novak.
So instead of Vamos I’ll put: IDEMO!!!


Perfect fan Says:

the hard court juggernaut finally stops….nevertheless an incredible feat so far.


gonzalowski Says:

And over… 63 64 1h.23 min.
Rafa hasn’t hardly hit winners, but al least has finished pushing Novak (a little).
Congrats Courbon!


Sirius Says:

Ugly trophy


Michael Says:

Congrats to Novak for the win against Rafa even if he is not fully fit. The easy scoreline suggests that Rafa did not play his heart out in the match and some physical ailment was bothering him. I may be wrong or I may be right. Still, you have to give credit where it is due. It is not easy to beat even an injured Nadal.


metan Says:

Congratulations Nole and all his fans, Courbon and Patson..hehehe!!!Nole has up grade little bit. Hehehe!

We’ll see if Rafa eyes Shanghai. He will raises his game there. Being honest he played at Beijing just for no1. Lol.
He sets eye for other tour WTF. It must win.


courbon Says:

@ metan: Thank you.They are still working on his software-new version is coming to shops near you very soon! ( and all good retailers )


Brando Says:

Just woke up and I missed the entire match! See that Novak won as I predicted: congrats to Courbon and Patson. His stats seem close to perfect for the match. Not surprised: he was much, much better than Rafa this week. Deserved winner. How was Rafa peeps? Especially his movement? Was he in it to win it?


courbon Says:

@ Gonzalowski: Thank you.
Not a big deal for Rafa but little bit more significant for Novak.Big things start with a little steps.So after ATP500, lets see how it goes in Shangai.
Anyway, with everything Rafa done this year its quite normal that he relaxed a bit and lost this match.
This guys are so close to each other, then when you take you foot of the pedal for a moment other one passes you quickly…like a formula 1 racing.


Margot Says:

Well played Nole! Terrific ROS, backhand and determination.
Comms to Rafa’s fans.
@courbon
I can see your smile from here :)
1)Dylan re song
2)”Mussels” is what you eat. “Pulling a mussel” sounds quite a fetish …;)


James Says:

congrats @courbon and other Nole fans!

Novak was solid today. Rafa was never in the match as he couldn’t even manage a single BP on Novak’s serve.

Rafa looked very slow and his forehand was nowhere to be seen. He needed to be at his best to have a chance against Novak playing this good.

This was an important win for Nole. Like Sean said, Novak needed this more than Rafa. Now he’s gonna be very confident again when facing Rafa in their future matches.

I expect Rafa to play much better next time they meet.

This rivalry keeps getting more interesting.

Next Shanghai.


metan Says:

Courbon,
Your welcome. At least morale boast for Nole by this winning. Rafa felt the same too when he lost 7 in the row. We are waiting for New Nole . He played well from beginning although not 2011 form. :-)


Giles Says:

Joker can have this 500 event Rafa achieved the #1 ranking and that is more important to this Rafan!
Vamos Champ!
Stay healthy!


courbon Says:

@ Margot: Pulled my mussel not in a fetish way!
I and do like mussels!
and you are right:I’m smilling! ( I gave a chocolate to my kids before lunch-I’m in good mood!)
@ James: Tanks James.Next Shangai.


jatin Says:

Novak is back. Well, he totally dominated rafa.

I hope rafa fans would not make injury as an excuse this time.

Hoping for roger to take charge again. Missing him so so much.


courbon Says:

Shagai draw is out and is quite interesting-We may see Novak-Federer in QF, Nadal-Wawrinka/Raonic on other side.Also Novak potential SF can be Ferrer/Tsonga and Nadals would be Delpo…
I would be nice to see Fed-Novak match-they are for me great matches-Novak plays more attractive tennis against Federer then others so is always pleasing to watch those to.


courbon Says:

‘ jatin: Hold your horses my friend. Novak is not back yet…lets see Shangai first.
You know-even I miss Federer and I’m not his fan.


Michael Says:

As I said and repeat, Novak is the only player in the Tennis circuit who can trouble Rafa. If not for him, Rafa would have already amassed 16 slam titles by now.


jatin Says:

@courban
Actually he never left. He was just unlucky. I mean he was in the wimby and uso finals and almost defeated the king of clay in his own backyard. He was always there.

I am excited to watch roger vs novak match in shanghai (if that happens). I still remember that wtf finals between them. Roger had chances in both sets but blowed it away.
As for rafa. He is a new world no 1. I still cannot believe it. He played such a high quality tennis whole year. This is his what ? 11 th final ??


jatin Says:

@michael

I still think a fit roger in indoors can win against rafa. So hard times ahead for him.
Its Indoors baby.


Brando Says:

Nice to see Fed fans still obsessed with Rafa. Touching to see the love from them. ‘Coughs’ pathetic ‘Coughs’.


Brando Says:

Kudos to ‘real’ Nole fans for keeping it real. A good win for him but ultimately: a 500 point tourny that he desperately needed to win whilst the other guy? Not so much. For Rafa the main thing was getting the #1 ranking here. He’s got it. Mission accomplished. Onto Shanghai now. Rafa has tough draw there: isner, wawrinka, delpo, Nole. Let’s see what happens……


courbon Says:

@ jatin: I’m afraid I don’t agree with you.He was not unlucky-Rafa was just a better player on the day.In RG was very close but US Open was not.Almost defeting somebody is when you do 5-set match and loose in a tie break.
IIn all this finals Novak was there in a flash but not mentally.Even if he was in the top form-Nadal was also in the top form so results would be decide by a few points ( like in 2012 AO).But Nadal won faire and square.
We see things differently and that’s cool with me.
Roger is a big question mark at the moment.For the sake of the game ( and his fans like you ) and it would be great to see him come back…


Hawkeye Says:

Congrats courbon and #NoleFam on T-x!!

Nole was brilliant today. Too good. Great to have these two pushing each other!

Should be a fun end of year! Delpo playing well again and should make Top 4 sooner rather than later. Need Muzz to come back strong.

Ajde Nole! Well played.


Brando Says:

@Courbon: great post. People need to look at RG stats and see that one guy was leading in ALL aspects. The better guy clearly won there. Folks need to move on from that one. Anyhow I digress: congrats to you on Noles win. Deserved it was it clearly seems.


jatin Says:

@courban
I don’t know what you are concerned about.
He was 3 finals this year. I mean, that’s incredible achivement. Yes, he lost to a better player (Infact the best player of this year ) in Uso but he was close. He could have won the 3rd set actually. He was ahead. Look at wimby finals, he was ahead of murray in last 2 sets but still lost. Yup, i agree with the mental part. He is not the same nole he once was MENTALLY. But i think physically and game wise he is still the same or even better.

Actually i am dissapointed with roger. He is still using the same racket. He should have tested the newer one. Its such a shame that a legend like Federer locked himself into a dreadful deal with a mediocre racquet-manufacturing company and now does not have the freedom to try a racquet in the best interest of his career.


courbon Says:

@ Jatin: Well, job of fans is to be concerned…
Agree with some points but MENTAL aspect of the game is very important.Also it influences his game-his BDH is not working so great.Is he afraid to play it with risk? I don’t know but that is down to head or maybe not practising enough?We will se what will happen in next 3 months.
Well, Roger gave you 17th Grand Slams so maybe you should go easy on him (like I should on Novak maybe?).Its hard for him to escape from Roger Federer shadow…


Michael Says:

Jatin,

I agree with your assessment that Roger can win against Rafa in indoors even today. He has done that before and he can well do it again. But Roger needs to discover some confidence back. He is just playing pretty ordinary tennis at the moment.


courbon Says:

@ Margot: Which Dylan song?
Knocking on the Rafas ( heavens ) door?


Giles Says:

Fed did try a new racquet earlier this year on clay but had no joy. So what are you on about @jatin? ? ?


Margot Says:

@courbon
“The Times They are a-changing.” See how psychic I am..;)


Margot Says:

Or was it Baez?


Nina Says:

Finally Novak! The tide is turning on just as I knew it would. Next year will be exciting.


Brando Says:

@Nina: Is the tide really turning? I thought Nole was back as you told us he was post his Granollers win. I thought the tide turned then based on your exclamation. What changed to result in the finally?…..:-)


Kimberly Says:

Nice match from Novak! Keep your head up Rafa you’ll get him next time! (or the time after that, if not then after that) Nadal is a fighter, he lost seven times in a row and still believed. If he can do that then so can I!


queen Says:

Ha ha the Schmack won 500 hard event end everybody is cheering he is back…lol it’s like being surprised that Nadal won in Barcelona what?


Alex Says:

People make way too much out of the mental aspect between Rafa and Novak. The better player on the day wins. That is all.


queen Says:

Btw, I would love to see Fed battling Novak. Let’s hope Fed shows up in Shanghai.


courbon Says:

@ Brando: Thanks.I agree with your assessment-is too early to say if the tide is turning.If Novak wins next 3-4 matches against Rafa then you can look back at this win and say-that was the moment thing start changing.We will know in 4-5 months.Ultimately Novak would need to beat Rafa in GS Final to really turn the trend.So, I guess it would be after AO that we will know.One can only hope…(-:

@ Hawkeye: Thanks.Just a little win-we will see…

@ Queen; I have to admire your persistant dislike of Nole. What you do in a REAL life?
Stab Novaks Voodoo dolls with the needels?


Giles Says:

@Hawkeye. When is the Y/E #1 determined? Is it Paris or will the ranking pts continue into WTF?


Giles Says:

@Hawkeye. At the moment the race pts are Rafa 11,190 and joker 8,610. Please explain.


skeezer Says:

Rick,
Who’s your fav’s Daddy?
We saw, no?

An important win for Novak, stopping the mad bull in a beat down. Now maybe we have some real tennis to enjoy the rest of the season. Will miss Murray though….


the DA Says:

@ margot – You were right the first time. #Dylan

Excellent match by Nole. He executed his game plan perfectly. Rafa’s amazing comeback suffers a momentary blip. Not a shocking result. So happy Delpo took care of Raonic.

I’m looking forward to seeing how Shanghai plays out.


skeezer Says:

Congrats courban, and wog boy (wherever you are), mat4, Jane and the rest of the Nole gang. Miss u guys.


Giles Says:

Hey skeezer. A better question is who’s your fav’s Daddy???
21-10


Tennis X Hippy Chic Says:

Congrats to Courbon and the rest of the pound for pounders,Wogboy,Mat4,Jane,Duro,Harry,Bada Bing the actual true Nole fans,agree with Skeezer in that they are all very much missed,Nole was the better player all week,so was indeed a deserved winner,i didnt see the match as i was working,so i cant coment on it,i have no complaints,and im not even dissapointed about the result,as it was what i pretty much expected.


metan Says:

Congrats to Delpo. He won it. Shanghai will be interesting to watch then.


queen Says:

@courbon, pretty much that’s what I do all day…lol


Tennis X Hippy Chic Says:

Skeezer just wondering,i know this forum has become rather Rafa heavy lately,and i know you,ve been battling alot with certain Rafa fans,but nobody stopped Noles fans from posting,some stopped posting when the going got tough,Rafas fans stuck around even when he didnt play for 7 months(granted not all),Fed fans are still around too,you dont actually miss any Rafa fans when they dont post,or would you rather they didnt?no harm or foul just wondering?


Brando Says:

@Courbon: Thanks. I’m going to bid Sayonara to you and all now till 2014 start. I’ll end on the note that: 1- I agree with your take 2- Congrats to you and Novak on his win. Like I said it was highly deserved, straight forward and worthy. See you down the line C! :-)


Tennis X Hippy Chic Says:

The picking window for the Shanghai bracket was very short,closed already so sorry i missed out (sigh).


hawkeye Says:

Giles Says:
@Hawkeye. When is the Y/E #1 determined? Is it Paris or will the ranking pts continue into WTF?
@Hawkeye. At the moment the race pts are Rafa 11,190 and joker 8,610. Please explain.

Y.E. #1 determined after WRF and DC Finals which ends Nov. 17th.

With his finals showing in Beijing, Rafa will add 300 pts to his 11015 for a total of 11315.

Nole will have 8610 pts in the race.

So Rafa’s lead is +2705.

If Nole runs the table in Shanghai, Paris, London and DC he will earn about 3700 points. Big ask.

So practically, Rafa will clinch with another 1000 pts although 500 should get it done.

Basically, he can win Basel, for example, and do nothing for the rest of the year!


Suzette, Says:

Congratulations to Novak on his 4th Bejing title and kudos to Rafa for his #1 ranking. Thes two are great competitors. As for inquiring why some posters don’t frequent these blogs anymore, it is because the constant bickering and name callin of a few makes you battle weary. I don’t mind the partisanship. Everyone has a favorite but some of the attacks on other players and fans gets ugly and personal. As frequent posters, perhaps these people should get called out moe often, whether the unfair attack is on your player or any other.


Suzette, Says:

Sorry for the typos, but my keyboard is sticking and missing some letters


Tennis X Hippy Chic Says:

Suzette congrats to you and your favorite,its a shame when people feel that way,that was a great win for him and a statement of intent,i myself have been on the wrong end of some bullying,i think that the new guidelines we have now,should make for a more peacefull environment.


Giles Says:

@Hawkeye. And what about the 150 pts from VdM. Have they been added already or at some later stage?


Giles Says:

@hawkeye. Sorry to be a pain. Isn’t the Y/E 1 trophy presented at the WTF each year? Which means the result is pre-determined before the start of the WTF and DC finals. So if there is a tight finish and players are reliant on pts from WTF how does this work out?


queen Says:

The No 1 trophy is presented before the year end event finishes so I do no think all points are added?


courbon Says:

Skeezer and Hippy Chic-Thanks for words of support.

@ Brando: So long my friend (this are exact words of my Bangladeshi mini cab driver, that use to take me home every night ) and speak to you in the near future


Tennis X Hippy Chic Says:

Courbon your welcome Nole deserved the win,no doubt about it ;-))..


Tennis X Hippy Chic Says:

Nina@8.00am you seem to regard any Novak win,as the second coming,and the parting of the red sea,sorry just saying.


hawkeye Says:

I believe they present the YE No. 1 once it has been clinched.

Sometimes it’s already clinched before WTF starts!

If it is clinched during the tournament, they might present the trophy before WTF concludes.

It rarely comes down to the final match.


Giles Says:

@hawkeye. Which means the WTF will not be counted. So he is only defending Shanghai now.


Giles Says:

PS. Also if joker does clinch the y/e #1 and doesn’t defend all his pts at the WTF and Rafa wins a few matches there, then the #1 will revert back to Rafa?


hawkeye Says:

No, the WTF counts but mathematically, the YE #1 may be clinched before the WTF ends.


Giles Says:

@hawkeye. Thanks very much. Hope Rafa comes out on top.
Vamos!

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