Nadal Wins “Group A” At ATP Finals; Federer v Del Potro In Knockout Match Saturday
by Staff | November 8th, 2013, 9:31 pm
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Rafael Nadal finished the round-robin stage of the ATP Finals in London with a perfect 3-0 mark after subduing Tomas Berdych today 6-4, 1-6, 6-3. The win for the World No. 1 assures him of the top seed in Group and will put him against the second place Group B winner, either Roger Federer or Juan Martin del Potro, on Sunday in the semifinals.

“I [attained] my goal,” said Nadal. “I am in the semifinals without losing a match. So that’s most important thing for me.

“Any opponent will be very difficult. We are playing against the best players in the world. So if is Del Potro, if is Federer, both players know very well how to beat me, on this surface especially. The only way to win the match of semi-finals is by playing my best match, playing fantastic tennis. I have one day off. One day tomorrow to keep playing well, keep trying to improve a little bit more.”

Nadal improved his season match record to 74-6, including 35-3 on hard courts. He is the first active player to win at least 35 matches on clay (39) and hard courts in the same season. He also advanced to the semifinals for the 16th time in 17 tournaments. He is an ATP World Tour-best 23-4 vs. Top 10 opponents this year.

Berdych, who won just one match at the event for the second year in a row, now looks ahead to the Davis Cup final next weekend against Serbia in Belgrade.

In the first match of the day, Finals debutante Stanislas Wawrinka took out David Ferrer 6-7(3), 6-4, 6-1. The win put the Swiss in position to earn a semifinal if Berdych lost, and that’s what happened.

The reward for Wawrinka will be a US Open semifinal rematch with Novak Djokovic.

Before then, defending champion Djokovic puts his 19 match win streak on the line against Richard Gasquet. The Serb has won nine of 10 against the Frenchman including 7-1 on hard courts. Djokovic has also won 19 of the previous 23 sets and has won the past seven meetings in straight sets. Gasquet’s only win did come in round robin play during the 2007 Shanghai Tennis Masters Cup.

In a crucial first match, Roger Federer and Juan Martin del Potro meet for the third time in as many week. This contest will also carry with it a spot in the semifinals.

Federer leads their head-to-head record 14-3 (9-5 on hard). The Argentine won in the final at the Swiss Indoors in Basel 7-6, 2-6, 6-4 two weeks ago and in the quarterfinals last Friday at Paris, Federer prevailed 6-3, 4-6, 6-3. This will be their third meeting at the Finals and del Potro won the previous round robin matches in three sets in 2009 and last year.

“It’s going to be a decision match for both,” del Potro said. “We play in every Masters, the last match of the group, and we always play for something, which is good for be focus and with the high expectations.
I will try to do my best. I know for me has been a long season, a lot of matches in the end of the year. I’m getting tired. But is the last effort. Could be the last effort of the year, so I will try to enjoy and do the best I can.”

Federer, who is appearing in the season finale for the 12th year in a row, is trying to reach the semi-finals for the 11th time. The only time he didn’t reach the semis was in 2008 when he went 1-2 in round robin play.

Asked to pick a winner between the two on Thursday, Djokovic said he couldn’t.

“It’s difficult to say really because all the matches that they played against each other this year, lately, had went the distance,” Novak said of Federer-del Potro. “The last one was in Bercy that also was decided with a break of serve in the end of the match.

“Roger is definitely playing better than he was throughout the whole year. He loves these conditions. He likes this court,” he added. “But on the other hand, Del Potro has big serve. I can expect a three‑set battle. I can’t pick the winner.”

SATURDAY ATP FINALS SCHEDULE
Noon, Dodig/Melo vs. Qureshi/Rojer
2pm. Del Potro vs. Federer

5:45, Bryan/Bryan vs. Fyrstenberg/Matkowski
8pm, Djokovic vs. Gasquet


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134 Comments for Nadal Wins “Group A” At ATP Finals; Federer v Del Potro In Knockout Match Saturday

metan Says:

Well done Rafa. Into the next Round. Millions Luck and please improve your serves.!!

Vamos!


metan Says:

Wawa is a crap!!


princessice Says:

The other day Stan was dissing Rafa. Today Rafa is his BFF.


Okiegal Says:

Wa Wa tweeted to Rafa that dinner was on him tonite…….Wa Wa was pulling for Ra Ra today!!Lol

He also tweeted Rafa after their match and congratulated him on the year end number one achievement.

Vamos Rafa!!!


Steve 27 Says:

•Rafa comes to Wawrinka’s rescue (via ESPN)

… Wawrinka texted ESPN analyst Darren Cahill during the match and said he was more nervous watching Nadal-Berdych than during any of the matches he played in London… ”Wawrinka is one of the players that I have a better relationship with on tour. I felt sad during the match that he felt that way,” Nadal said. ”I told him ‘I’m sorry, it’s not going to happen again’. That’s why I told Toni to stop because the relationship is more important than any match.”

•Nadal: Wawrinka and Uncle Toni have made up after coaching spat (via ESPN)

… ”It was nothing about coaching. After the match, Stan and Toni talked in the locker room. Wawrinka felt sorry because he did it in that way, and Toni felt sorry because he never had the intention to bother Stan during the match. They talked for three minutes. Nothing happened.”


Okiegal Says:

@Steve27

Thanks for that interesting little tidbit. Rafa likes to keep good rapport with Swiss guys, so it seems.
Apparently no coaching just too much vamosing! Well, glad that’s straightened out……maybe the Uncle Tony coaching issue will go away……for a while!!

Vamos Rafa!!


Tennis X Hippy Chic Says:

Rafa said after his match against Ferrer,that Stan was a very good friend of his.


nitesh Says:

is rafa 3013 season better then novak 2011 season


squirrel Says:

oh…Rafa is such a sweetheart,I’m glad they both resolved the issue and become friends again,that’s good

As for the semifinals showdown,it’s still possible for Djokovic to not win the group right?If he loses in straight sets to Gasquet and that Federer wins in straight sets also (crossing my foingers!),then Federer would finish first in the grouo right?Here’s hoping :)

Allez Fed!


Giles Says:

The ATP will present The Great Rafael Nadal with the Year End #1 Trophy today at 2 pm local time in the O2 arena. All Rafans please stay tuned, this is a great occasion which caps off a phenomenal year for our hero. 222 days away from the tour with injury and for him to come back and achieve this is something very very special.
Vamos Rafa!
#StayHealthy
#GoodLuck


squirrel Says:

Congrats Rafans for your special day!


Giles Says:

@squirrel. Joker has already won the group


squirrel Says:

That’s what I don’t understand (I must be slow or something) because if say he loses to Gasquet in straight and Fed wins in straight,wouldn’t they be 2-1 both in matches but in sets,Fed would be 5-2 whereas Djokovic would be 4-4,so wouldn’t that mean Fed finishes first? (I know the probability of that happening is super low but still,how can people just assume Djokovic would surely win the group).haha,I’m a sienctist so I hate it when things aren’t making sense!lol


Giles Says:

This RR scoring is indeed very complicated. I was surprised that Rafa hadn’t been declared winner of the group after his second match win and had to wait until his win against Berdych to be declared as such. Regarding Gasquet/ joker match today, I think Gasquet was already out of contention and therefore his match today will be irrelevant to the standings. That’s how I understand the position.


Giles Says:

Two faced wawawawa. One day you are dissing Rafa and surprise surprise, the next day you are schmoozing him!
Geez. I wouldn’t like to be your friend. Just couldn’t control his frustration at losing to Rafa for the twelfth time! Grow a pair wawawawa and stop being a cry baby!


Tennis X Hippy Chic Says:

Gasquet will be playing to try to salvage some pride,like Ferrer hes trying not to get white washed,i doubt it will happen against Nole though somehow,its just a question of whether it will be Roger or Delpo who joins Nole in the semis now.


Giles Says:

http://alturl.com/oxeiz
Rafa Friday hot shot on match point.
Vamos Champ!


roy Says:

”Fed would be 5-2 whereas Djokovic would be 4-4,so wouldn’t that mean Fed finishes first? ”

i seem to remember it also factors in the match between them in this situation. djoker won against fed, so fed can’t be above him.
could be wrong.


Slice Tennis Says:

H2H matters more than the number of sets won.
I know federazzi downplay the H2Hs…but ATP thinks otherwise.


Giles Says:

http://alturl.com/ebjyo
Great article on Rafa.
Vamos!


Michael Says:

Roger Vs Del Potro is a very difficult one to pick. They are literally playing a knockout. These two are playing against each other more frequently much to their comfort.


squirrel Says:

@roy

Thanks!now i get it,yeah,of course.As Djoko has beaten both Fed and Delpo,so he’s sure to finish above them.great!now all make sense! :)


squirrel Says:

watching the presentation for Nadal now,all you Rafans must be proud!


Giles Says:

Great trophy ceremony for our Rafa. So humble in his speech.
Proud to be a Rafan.
Vamos Rafa!
Stay healthy!
Good luck Champ!


skeezer Says:

“is rafa 3013 season better then novak 2011 season”

Interesting question.

No.


skeezer Says:

Congrats to Rafa on his YE #1. A truly great year for him. The start of 2013 was unreal coming off that layoff. That was the money there.


Hawkeye Says:

Vamos Rafa! Champ and GOAT.

VAMOS indeed.


Giles Says:

http://alturl.com/satiq
Rafa with his trophies.
Vamos!


Kimmi Says:

federer with bad start, now he is playing from behind whole set.


metan Says:

Michael, I think Delpo will be in the semifinal.


Kimmi Says:

ooops, this is getting worse


skeezer Says:

Fed looking pretty pathetic in the 1rst set. His shots are falling short and not penetrating. Delpo is in charge atm.


squirrel Says:

Federer is back!don’t worry guys,he nearly broke Delpo twice.he’s gonna come back very strong in the second set!


van orten Says:

fed is the player for the awesome points.. he will alwaxs be i guess.. but this set he gifted delpo hugely. now he has to do it in three


Hawkeye Says:

Federer playing well on Delpo’s 2nd serve.


van orten Says:

fed playing def. not his best. its kinda dissapointing because overall i still believe he is the better player than delpo. he misses way too much with his forehand though on easy shots. delpo not doing anything except for putting first serves in. again something never does these days when in trouble. rafa already through to the finals. my bet


squirrel Says:

well said van orten.very disappointing to see Fed not at his best because he could beat Delpo..


Hawkeye Says:

Putting 1st serves in??? He served just over 50%!!!

Fedfan looking to his box to see if he should challenge. Coaching.


Hawkeye Says:

Fedfan “playing his best” to get it back on serve.


squirrel Says:

yayyyy,they’re back on serve!Fed better not blink again this time around!


Hawkeye Says:

Delpo phoning it in a la Tomic the Tank Engine now. Must be back on fedfan’s racquet now.


Skeezer Says:

Fed is not a quitter, nor ever gives up. Qualities unmatched.
Keep bringin it old man!!


Skeezer Says:

Delpo “phonin it in”. U accusing Delpo of tanking rafafanatic?


van orten Says:

old federer is broken as usual in first service game third set.. it is a pattern that is hard to stand for his fans. really. always same old story


squirrel Says:

tell me about it van orten,sick of it…


Ben Pronin Says:

Even if Federer loses this match, I think there’s a lot of positives to be taken from these last few weeks. I think he should focus on his fitness during the off season.


Nirmal Kumar Says:

I’m not sure why Roger is fighting so hard, when he is going to be embarrassed by nadal in the semis. This is one of the matches where he could just let it go and take rest. Atleast he could retain the record of not being beaten by Nadal in WTF for atleast one more year.


Hawkeye Says:

Too many mental lapses by the gentle giant today.

Pro Fedfan crowd cheering UEs. Classless.


vinod Says:

@Nirmal Federer is not a coward to tank the match he ll fight it. Even though he loses against nadal wtf already h2h is poor so be it. At least he s earning an opportunity to fight again. On the brighter side if he wins against him , it would be a great moment to beat current no 1 right ?


jatin Says:

What a match is going on. AMAZING.


van orten Says:

u gotta love fed for hangin in there like that.. great player .. he is still there somehow..old vintage fed..


squirrel Says:

omg i’m so proud of my Fed,i can’t..tears..


squirrel Says:

@Nirmal

Great champion never thinks like that…he doesn’t care if he loses to Nadal..he just wants a fighting chance..Fed would never shy away from competition


squirrel Says:

@hawkeye

i know it’s not very classy but any player’s hard fan would do that…not only Fed’s fans…


van orten Says:

i love you roger !!! we love you roger …!!!


Ben Pronin Says:

Regardless of what happens against Nadal, this was an absolutely great win for Federer. Coming back from a set down. Coming back from a break down in the third. This is what Federer has been virtually incapable of this year. I’m pretty happy. I hope the match against Nadal is at least a great one.


squirrel Says:

yes!!!we love you Roger!!keep fighting!!we don’t care if you’ll have your first losss against Nadal tomorrow,you’re a champipon that’s never scared!you always will be!!


Thomas Says:

Federer wins.


Giles Says:

Fedal!!
Vamos Rafa!


jatin Says:

My man. You did it. SO PROUD OF YOU ROGER.


vinod Says:

Wow !!! Great win next up Nadal … Fed has 20 % chance and lets see what he does with that


van orten Says:

well lets see tomorrow. rrafa is def. beatable on that surface. he is 0:4 indoors vs fed


Hawkeye Says:

Congrats to fed fans including perfect fan, staff and moderators but not to sock puppet trio sad fans.

Hope the GOAT can take down the indoor GOAT on his favourite surface and atmospheric conditions even if it is just a friendly.


ertorque Says:

hurray! Fed got through what everyone thought was a goner after he was broken early in the 3rd set.

As a Fed fan, hope he will do what he did against Nadal in the 2011 WTF finals!


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Fantastic win for Roger. He showed what a great champion he is. This was not Delpo at his best. Looks like he did not have energy to rip his FH. He was quite passive and his serve was not clicking. Still he made Roger fight till the end of 3rd set to win the match. This is a very good sign for Delpo for the coming year.


jatin Says:

That’s why we love Roger. Not because of his forehand winners, not because of his slices but because of his desire to win. This is a Roger way way beyond his past. He was a set and a break down, still, he fought and won the match. It doesn’t matter what happens now Roger, you have showed what a champion you are, time and again. Roger’s a fighter and he would be loving the prospect of playing Rafa tomorrow. A great harbinger for 2014. Bring it on!


Giles Says:

As a Rafan I hope Rafa will reverse the outcome we had in the 2011 WTF finals!!
Vamos Rafa!


courbon Says:

Congratulations to all Fed fans.


jatin Says:

They said His chance of entering WTF is less – SLAP
They said his poor form cant make him in semis – SLAP.

RF Proved ths quote today ” Form Is Temporary but Class is Permanent”


vinod Says:

@jatin great comment


Patson Says:

Congrats to all Fed fans. Great match ! Fed and Delpo have been playing some pretty awesome 3-set matches in the past few years.

Fed vs Nadal is going to be an absolute cracker !
If Fed wins, skeezer, madmax etc would definitely bring the GOAT posts. If Rafa wins, we’ll have lots of posts from Hawkeye, slice tennis, steve etc.

BUT, as I said before, your joy would only last a day because it’s Nole all the way :)


serve-volley Says:

Great volleying from Fed. You will need that against Rafa. You can do it.


Daniel Says:

If Wawrinka can take Nadal to 2 tirpebreaks I still think Fed can do more.
He will be pumped up by this win which he fought like we haven’t seen in a long time. But this was also a grueling three setter with a lot of running, pace and flat shots. Match against Nadal will be slower as the spaniard will impose his rhytim and his MO: target BH fro mor a pn error or a short ball run away to hit fh in the open court. Who ever serves better and find the other BH the most will prevail.
I was also impressed by Fed’s movement and he was not making mistakes on the running and defend quit well in BH corner and FH on the running.
Hemay have a slim chance but this one is not going to be a washout as some think. In 4 tries Nadal only won 1 set. And by their HxH patetrn (every 3 matches Nadal wins 2 and Fed 1) he is due for a win.
Another classic match tomorrow and what a challenge to Nadal: if he wins this WTF beating Fed and Djoko back to back will be quiet an achievement. Brung it on!!


squirrel Says:

haha,nice one Patson,I guess you Nole fans could have the last laugh.

Allez Roger!!!


courbon Says:

@ Patson: You going to jinx Nole. Stop it!!!


Giles Says:

@courbon. Sean has already jinxed him! Lol


courbon Says:

@ Giles: Did he picked Novak to win? Shit….


jatin Says:

The best point of the match was
A Federer lob… A Del Potro hot dog… A backpedalling Federer hooks a forehand over his shoulder… Del Potro retrieves… a square-off at the baseline before Federer comes up with a spectacular forehand winner which passes Del Potro for a dazzling opening point.

Waiting for FEDAL tomorrow. Bring it on.


andrea Says:

great win for fed….puzzling loss for delpo…to be ahead in all three sets and still lose.

i’m looking forward to this edition of rafa and roger. with nothing left to lose and desire to prove he can still win, i hope fed avoids his usual mental ‘nadal malaise’ that has been evident in their prior matches.

regardless of who wins, i hope it’s a good one.


madmax Says:

1704:
Roger Federer: “I don’t get a day off, I’ve got to back it up and be ready to go again tomorrow. I’ll try to make his [Nadal's] life a bit difficult.”
1702:
So, the six-time champion reaches the last four for the 11th time in this competition but standing in his way for a place in the final is Rafael Nadal, his nemesis, the world number one. That semi-final will be played on Sunday and will be live on BBC Three. Good, eh.
Andrew Castle, Former British number one and BBC Sport expert
“He’s the oldest man in the eight man field and he was playing the youngest. Only once has he come here and failed to make the semis. This was close, but it’s glory for Roger Federer once again. If he can recover in the 22 hours he’s got he could give Rafael Nadal an encounter.”
1658:
After two hours and 26 minutes we learn that Roger Federer is the fourth man through to the ATP Tour Finals, joining Rafael Nadal, Novak Djokovic and Stanislas Wawrinka. What a way for the 32-year-old to show that there’s some gas left in the tank.

“A lot of coming from behind, trying to get back into the match, and it was amazing that I was able to pull it off,” says Federer. “I could never play free flowing tennis. I fought hard, maybe got a bit lucky at times.”

Hawkeye Says:
Too many mental lapses by the gentle giant today.

Pro Fedfan crowd cheering UEs. Classless.

November 9th, 2013 at 11:43 am

You can’t blame Federer Hawkeye. He is loved world wide. The fan’s favourite. The home crowd love Roger. Everywhere he goes.

Hawkeye Says:
Putting 1st serves in??? He served just over 50%!!!

Fedfan looking to his box to see if he should challenge. Coaching.

November 9th, 2013 at 10:29 am

Please hawkeye, start looking closer to home, in your own back yard. Roger NEVER looks to his box. Stop making up your own stories. Didn’t you know, he hasn’t got a coach?

Very proud of Federer. He came back from his passive start.


skeezer Says:

Jatin 12:18
Post of the week!
Rack it Tennis X!

Like i said earlier, Fed has never givenup, quits or retires. Glad to see he has some mojo left. Rafa is still the favorite imo, but Fed when he plays is still the King to watch with the variety of paint brushes on the court.


nilam Says:

“I’m not sure why Roger is fighting so hard, when he is going to be embarrassed by nadal in the semis.”

I understand that a lot of fans want their favorite players to avoid matches against their nemeses but most professional players, least of all a great champion, do not think like that. By this logic, Federer should have retired long ago because his H2H records, winning percentages etc have taken a beating over the last few years and the longer he plays, the worse these records will get. When he has never shied away from playing Nadal anywhere under any conditions, why should he do it now. His losses to Nadal do not have the same meaning as the ones in his prime. When Federer can lose to any Tom,Dick or Harry now, losing to the top players is hardly a shame or that surprising. Even from a tactical or strategic point of view, it does not make sense given the absolutely horrible matchup. Federer is way beyond that point at this stage of his rivalry with Nadal or any other player. He is not a factor anymore and he never indulged in it even when the rivalry had true meaning. I have seen some top players take a tactical retreat when the going is tough or when they do not feel confident for whatever reason. Federer does not seem to think that way. It is also quite clear that he dos not care much for the prospect of his numbers deteriorating.

I think Federer’s win today has probably ensured a Nadalovic final. Delpotro was probably the only credible threat to them especially Nadal who would definitely prefer to play Federer especially due to his extremely inconsistent form as compared to Delpo’s who has emerged as a big force indoors. I would have given an edge to Delpo(55-45) had that match materialized.

It seems like a nice gift from Federer to Nadal like at the 2011 French Open. I would be very surprised if Federer wins tomorrow but stranger things have happened before.


skeezer Says:

‘”Hawkeye Says:
Delpo phoning it in a la Tomic the Tank Engine now. Must be back on fedfan’s racquet.”

ROFL!


nilam Says:

“If Wawrinka can take Nadal to 2 tirpebreaks I still think Fed can do more.”

Yes, Federer can do much more but he has done nothing this year to even hint that he will pose a challenge to a Nadal in brilliant form. Nadal will have to play bad for Federer to have even a sniff and Nadal rarely plays badly. Wawrinka’s backhand is also much better when it comes to dealing with Nadal’s forehands. Djokovic fans are getting ahead of themselves. Wawarinka is not going to be easy if Djokovic continues to go for walkabouts during his matches. I thought Nadal was very impressive against Berdych who showed his usual nerves against Nadal at key moments but was absolutely brilliant in the second set. Nadal is so match-tough and dialed-in that it is very difficult to envisage a dip in his form. He has as good a chance as anybody else to win the title.


courbon Says:

Novak is not playing well at all.And his first serve is 50%…He will lose tomorrow if he plays like this.


Patson Says:

@skeezer:

We shall know soon enough.


Hawkeye Says:

Fedfan has an even or better chance to beat Rafa in tomorrow’s friendly given the indoor setting. He almost beat him in Cincy so why not given his 4-0 record.

Haven’t checked the odds but would guess Rafa is a slight favourite but I wouldn’t put money on this coin toss.

Fedfan has less time to recover but he will have the fan support and favourable conditions.

Vamos Rafa!!!! Do your best.


Hawkeye Says:

Wow Rafa is better than 2:1 according to oddsmakers.

I don’t agree given fedfan’s current form and historical performance indoors. Hopefully the oddsmakers know better.

Vamos Rafa!


skeezer Says:

Patson
“If Fed wins, skeezer, madmax etc would definitely bring the GOAT posts”
Nah, win or lose he is still there(GOAT). As is himself said, he is playing on bonus time, those accolades of records he has accumulated will still be there if he loses. Its only when rafanatics start posting ridiculous assanine comments about GOATness that all gets started.
—–
Tough match here for Nole here, no? What is the motivation here? Doesn’t he have #1 seed regardless?
—–
@nilam
Agree with on Rafa…looking in scary form.


courbon Says:

@ skeezer: He has #1 regardless.I gues motivation is his mini winning streak (19) or just to mimic Nadal 3 wins…also, Wawrinka will have a day off extra, so Novak should wrap it quicker, now it will go over 2 hours…
Watching Novak tonight , I feel that Rafa will win this tournament…unless your man pulls upset????


skeezer Says:

Courban,
I think Nole will be up for Rafa. At least I hope so. The last few years his game has matched up very well with the bull.
Can’t deny however Rafa is looking ominous. Never seen his knees look better, he is running around on those things like he never ever had a problem. Kudos to him.


Hawkeye Says:

According to one view, Rafanatics now include Agassi, Sampras, McEnroe, courier, Blake, Muzza and Nole.

I like that club.

Vamos GOAT!!!!


Giles Says:

Joker just having a practice match here.


Hawkeye Says:

Only Laver, Federer and Becker have implied Roger is still the GOAT. Becker thinks Rafa will change his mind.


courbon Says:

@ skeezer: I hope you are right.But let’s see Wawrinka first-tough match and Wawa better rested.
Your man had a great match-brilliant patches mixed with bad ones but mentally to recover from set down-something new this year! He may not have a great chance tomorrow but he will be treat in 2014-Mentally this was a turning point for Fed (well last 3 weeks more precisely ).Personally, for me his game is OK-what he needs to work is on his fitness, if he wants to be treat at Grand Slams.


courbon Says:

Novak is rushing to catch last tube now…


Giles Says:

Woohoo. Just read a tweet Olympics gonna be played on red clay in Rio. Hope it’s true!


Pitchaboy Says:

There is and was nothing wrong with Nadal’s knees. It gets hurt when he is about to lose and then miraculously heals. Having taken care of thousands of patients, I have never seen such spectacular healing.


holdserve Says:

Well, I have seen such healing Pitchaboy. I am not a doctor but some of the people I know recovered from such injuries even without having the kind of medical attention and rehab program which multi millionaire Rafa would have got.
These days medical science has advanced beyond what is available in whichever place you are in Pitchaboy.
Rafa had Hoffas syndrome. I think you should do some research instead of letting your hate speak for you. Elite athletes have recovered from worse knee injuries.
I hope you have heard of Tiger woods. He recovered from an ACL injury which, if you know anything about knee injuries, is more serious than Hoffa’s syndrome.
Tiger’s girlfriend Lindsey Vonn, an elite athlete. practically smashed her knee this Feb suffering ACL and MCL injury and she also got a fractured tibia and she is now planning to take part in Winter Olympics and hopes to be on the medal stand.
Pitchaboy stop letting your hate eat you. Why don’t you just focus on your fave. Why not Fed or Nole? I am sure all of us would be happier if there were some Nole and Fed fans instead of just Rafa and anti Rafa fans.
The anti Rafans not only spread their toxin on all tennis forums but are probably injuring their own physical and mental health.
In your own interest please be somebody’s fan.


madmax Says:

The capacity 17,500 crowd, who were overwhelmingly behind Federer, were treated to the best match of the week in a winner-takes-all shoot-out for the last semi-final place. It was a match that summed up Federer’s year. There were times when he looked a spent force, frustrated by his mistakes, but others when he was as majestic as ever.

“I fought back the whole match,” Federer said afterwards. “I was really getting annoyed at myself, wondering how I could just play a loose game, wondering why this was happening.

“I wasn’t in many of Juan Martin’s service games, so I felt I would probably get just one more chance to break back [in the third set]. That’s exactly what happened. Once on even terms, I was able to play a little bit more freely. For the first time I almost felt like I was in the lead. It was a great finish. I was very happy. To get the victory was a great feeling.”

Del Potro went 5-1 up in the opener before Federer embarked on a masterclass. The Swiss won 16 out of the next 20 points and went within a point of levelling at 5-5 after a rally of sheer brilliance.

Very proud of Fed’s resilience here. Something he is showing much more of lately than ever before.

I will have expecations of federer today and so should he.


skeezer Says:

@madmax,
Was clearly the best match and the best shotmaking!


hawkeye Says:

Knees or no knees, they’ve kicked fedfan silly last five majors since Rafa turned 21.

But that wasn’t on an artificial indoor court.

C’mon Toni, cheer Rafa to victory. Lets get an indoor win to add to the h2h mantle even if it is an exho.

Vamos!


skeezer Says:

^idiotic
Vamosheads never want to seriously address the controversial knee issue. Lol

First of all, no Slams in the Fed / Rafa era have been played on your accused “artificial indoor courts”, so whats your imaginary point?
Second, since Rafa turned pro in 2001, didn’t win a Slam outside DIRT till 2008. What happened? WTF? Only one surface?
Meanwhile, during this period, Fed racks up the multitide and variety of Slams outside of DIRT. Dominant with Rafa playing pro for 7 years. Remember? The weak era? Apparently. Rafa was in it also…..ROFL.

This is the man(Fed)who has the most consecutive Grand Slam singles finals, ever, probably as long as any fans lifetime.
A record, among “17″, that will never be broken in this era.

Wake up and smell the roses vamosheads, its “Federisk”.


holdserve Says:

Rafa was in the weak era when he was below 21. But he played far better than Fed did when Fed was below 21. Fed was not even top 10.
When Rafa attained his prime he was above the pack, just as Fed was and the weak era ceased in 2008 because there were at least 2 of prime age and capable of beating the field.
A record of 17 of which 12 were won in the weak era. Divide 12 by two and a properly weighted slam tally for Fed would be 11 ( 6 in weak era and 5 after he had at least one rival).


Slice Tennis Says:

“since Rafa turned pro in 2001, didn’t win a Slam outside DIRT till 2008″

Federer turned pro in 1998, but didn’t win any inside or outside till 2003.


Slice Tennis Says:

“during this period, Fed racks up the multitide and variety of Slams outside of DIRT”

Yes..only during “that” period. And before “that” period and after “that” short period of 4 years (12 slams), he won just 5 slams in 11 years.

“Remember? The weak era? Apparently. Rafa was in it also”

Obviously. The teenage Rafa was lucky to start his career in the weak era where he could just win a slam in his debut beating the world number 1.

Can someone today win a slam in his debut beating any of the top 5 ?
Will the current top players lose to a debutant and allow him to win it ?
Nah…strong era.


skeezer Says:

“That period”….this is what u types skew all the time. Don’t like it back in your face?

But he(Fed) had Sampras, Agassi, Safin. When Rafa came in, (who was his competition?)….he just had Fed for the most part , no?
Its all Yadayada..just shows anyone can skew the data to your liking. What can’t you skew? Feds records. Its there. It stands. Study Feds wiki. All time record books baby. GOAT.
He’s playin for fun and gravy now, win or lose, his all time records will remain. Everyone else is chasin….


Slice Tennis Says:

But he(Fed) had Sampras, Agassi, Safin. When Rafa came in, (who was his competition?)….he just had Fed for the most part , no?

Both were lucky.
Federer had to deal aging players who were more than 10 yrs old.

Rafa had to deal with a weak no.1 till Nole came in.


Slice Tennis Says:

Rafa won his first three 3 slams beating absolutely weak players.

His first big challenge came in 2008 SF in the name of Novak Djokovic who later went on to become No1e and currently No2e.


skeezer Says:

“Both were lucky”

Oh I get it now, lucky. Lol.

Whatever slice tennis, sorry, I tried, but that is dumb… Later.


Slice Tennis Says:

Ok come back later and try harder. All the best.


skeezer Says:

U try harder, nothing proven by u, sorry. Have a nice night dreamin armani’s.


Slice Tennis Says:

Personal attacks…..dumb…no understanding….Armani.
That’s all you guys know….attack someone personally if you cannot do anything fairly…..just like Federer (Murray AO 2013 SF).


skeezer Says:

Here we go again. Diversion talk.
Out.
Watch the delp/fed match. Great tennis. On now.
Allez fed.


Slice Tennis Says:

Watch the next GOAT match. The real GOAT will it in great style.


Slice Tennis Says:

Delpo is just a mediocre one slam wonder. Give me a call when he wins a masters title…let alone a grandslam.


skeezer Says:

Apparently u didn’t answer the call.
Uh…he’a won a Slam oh all knowing one, where u been? Kindergarden School?
Done here with the unknowledged one.


Slice Tennis Says:

“Delpo is just a mediocre one slam wonder”

I cannot teach comprehension skills. That’s the job of kindergarden teachers.


skeezer Says:

Comprehend this;
Has Rafa beaten a “mediocre one slam wonder” this tourmament? A “any” Slam winner?
Nada. But he has beaten somebody that plays on Tour i think, no? Unc Toni has apparently been a necessary help with that. Woohoo! Vamos!


Slice Tennis Says:

Please wait for a few more hours, he will beat another mediocre multi slam punching bag….with the help of his uncle.


madmax Says:

skeezer Says:
^idiotic
Vamosheads never want to seriously address the controversial knee issue. Lol

First of all, no Slams in the Fed / Rafa era have been played on your accused “artificial indoor courts”, so whats your imaginary point?
Second, since Rafa turned pro in 2001, didn’t win a Slam outside DIRT till 2008. What happened? WTF? Only one surface?
Meanwhile, during this period, Fed racks up the multitide and variety of Slams outside of DIRT. Dominant with Rafa playing pro for 7 years. Remember? The weak era? Apparently. Rafa was in it also…..ROFL.

This is the man(Fed)who has the most consecutive Grand Slam singles finals, ever, probably as long as any fans lifetime.
A record, among “17″, that will never be broken in this era.

Wake up and smell the roses vamosheads, its “Federisk”.

November 10th, 2013 at 12:22 am

Skeezer, this was a great post man. Well done you!

Vamos Skeezer!

Dorks like Slicehead will never get around the greatness of Federer Skeezer, so, I would ask that you just ignore the idiotic comments.

Fed made his 11th straight semi finals at the O2. He has won 6 titles at the O2. Pretty damn amazing! WE are proud of him Skeezer, that is what matters.

Did you hear and see the standing ovation that Federer got at Basle – AS A RUNNER UP! I have to put it here Skeezer, because the organisers had to cut into the applause as it went on and on!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-HtO5AVPJs

(of course it is his home town), but this applause is world wide.

I think when he does retire in 2016, even slice head will shed a tear.

Delpotro is an absolute gentleman. A wonderful guy. He is some one who will definitely win future slams and tournaments. What a brilliant forehand he has. Has to have overtaken Roddick in terms of the power and the serve.

He got his slam before Andy. Easy to say that Roger should have won the USOpen in 2009, if it was not for his lack of focus at that crucial challenge which unnerved him, I think he would have. But Roger has so much respect for Delpo and so do the London Crowd.

I have been privileged to watch Delpo at both the O2 and in London, Wimbledon, a couple of times. He really is an awesome player.

As for the stats. Let’s not get ahead of ourselves slice head, no matter what happens today, WE ARE PROUD OF ROGER. HE IS THE BEST GS WINNER OF ALL TIME.

Most of Rafa’s wins have come on clay and there is Giles getting oh so excited about Rio being on clay – poor boy.

And you know rafanatics, wherever you go, runner up, winner, basel, london, paris, australia, you name it, Roger is loved and admired by the fans. But Runner up here, just simply wonderful. And Delpo just has that gentle look on his face of admiration.

Weak era? God, THAT old chestnut. Could list ALL the players here who played in the week era. :_

second thoughts, I won’t, cos guess what? NADAL is a part of it! (which is why slice head’s comment is so, well, uninformed!).


Giles Says:

In my opinion fed will retire after the Olympics 2016, not before. He will continue to get pummelled by every Tom, Dick and Robredo in the meantime. He is desperate to win that elusive Gold Medal. Rafa has it, fed hasn’t. The question arises now as to the surface for the Olympics. I think we know now it is going to be red clay, waiting for confirmation. How does he feel about that? Will he still wait till 2016 to retire? Does he have a shot at the Gold if Rafa plays? He will be mulling over these questions and more as time passes.
So, madmax, what do you think?
Try and abbreviate your post next time. This is too much from you. Why the 5000 lines? Is it necessary? Continue and I will continue to scrolllll down. All this fed drooling is getting a bit much. Am sure these looooong posts ain’t helping your blood pressure too much.
#Windbag


madmax Says:

Slice Tennis Says:
“Delpo is just a mediocre one slam wonder”

This perrson Skeezer, simply does not understand tennis, nor respect the incredible player that Del potro is. You have to feel pity. That’s all.


Giles Says:

Vamos Rafa!
#WorldNo#1


James Says:

@Giles, is it gonna be on red clay in Rio in 2016 Games? Links please?


Giles Says:

http://alturl.com/et89m
@James. Looks like it. :-))


metan Says:

Giles, really?? Confirm or not yet. Red clay. It’s gonna be 2 golds!


James Says:

Gracias, @Giles.


skeezer Says:

Madmax,
Thanks.;)


madmax Says:

Keep on rocking Skeeze.


madmax Says:

Brilliant Serving from the Fed!

Good work Maestro.


pitchaboy Says:

How about practicing in the US of A. Got better treatment any place else?


Hawkeye Says:

For those that can afford it.

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