Australian Open Men’s Final Open Thread: Rafael Nadal v Stanislas Wawrinka
by Staff | January 25th, 2014, 9:02 pm
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The first men’s Grand Slam champion of 2014 will be crowned Sunday at the Australian Open in Melbourne. Rafael Nadal will bid for history trying to become the first man in the Open Era to win two career Grand Slams. A second Australian Open would also give Nadal 14 overall Slams equaling Pete Sampras and putting him just three behind Roger Federer’s record 17.

Stanislas Wawrinka faces the task of not just beating Nadal in a final but ending a 12-match, 26-set losing streak to the Spaniard. The 28-year-old did just snap a similar skid to Djokovic, halting a 14-match slide to the Serb in the quarterfinals. But Wawrinka’s never beaten (0-15) a world No. 1 in his career.

NO. 1 RAFAEL NADAL (ESP) v NO. 8 STANISLAS WAWRINKA (SUI)
Head-to-head: Nadal leads 12-0

Wawrinka has never taken a set off Nadal in 12 previous meetings. This is their 3rd meeting at a Grand Slam.

This is Nadal’s most successful match-up. He has never defeated another player more times without loss than Wawrinka. Nadal has a 100% win record against 82 players (where multiple matches have been played).

One of Nadal and Wawrinka will become the first man in 8 years to win the title here after winning a pre-Australian Open tournament. Prior to coming here, Nadal won the title at Doha (d. Gael Monfils) while Wawrinka won the title at Chennai (d. Edouard Roger-Vasselin). Petr Korda (1998) and Roger Federer (2006) are the only 2 players in the last 16 years to win the Australian Open after winning a pre-tournament warm-up event. Both won the title at Doha before winning the Australian Open.

Top seed and 2009 Australian Open champion Nadal is bidding to win his 2nd Australian Open title and become the first man in the Open Era – and only the 3rd man in history – to win each of the 4 Grand Slam titles twice. Roy Emerson and Rod Laver are the only players to have won each Grand Slam on 2 or more occasions. NB: While Laver completed the feat in 1969, some of the titles were won before the start of the Open Era.

Nadal is looking to win his 14th Grand Slam title and equal Pete Sampras on the list of all-time Grand Slam title holders. He is currently 3rd on the list behind Roger Federer (17) and Sampras (14).

If Nadal wins today he would become the youngest man in history to win 14 Grand Slam titles. The Spaniard will be 27 years 237 days old on the final day of the tournament.

Nadal is through to the final here for the 3rd time on his 9th Australian Open appearance. His best performance at the Australian Open is winning the title in 2009 (d. Federer). He also reached the final in 2012, losing to Novak Djokovic in the longest men’s Grand Slam final on record at 5 hours 53 minutes. He is playing at the Australian Open for the first time since 2012, having missed the event last year with a knee injury.

At the 2010 US Open, Nadal became the 7th man in history to win all 4 Grand Slam titles. He was the 3rd-youngest in history and the youngest man in the Open Era, to do so.

By reaching his 19th Grand Slam final in his 37th major, Nadal has joined Ivan Lendl in equal-2nd place on the all-time list of most appearances in Grand Slam finals.

WAWRINKA is bidding to win a Grand Slam title for the first time in his first major final. He would be the 36th man in the Open Era to win their first Grand Slam title in their maiden final.

Wawrinka is the 99th different man in the Open Era to reach a Grand Slam final. The last man to win a Grand Slam title in their maiden final was Juan Martin del Potro at the 2009 US Open.

If Wawrinka wins the title for the first time in his 36th Grand Slam appearance he will be in 2nd place for most Grand Slam appearances before winning the title behind Goran Ivanisevic (48). He is already in 2nd place for the most appearances at a major before reaching the final (36) behind David Ferrer (42).

If Wawrinka wins the title for the first time on his 9th Australian Open appearance, he will be in joint-1st place with Petr Korda for most Australian Open appearances before winning the title.
(ITF)

SUNDAY AUSTRALIAN OPEN SCHEDULE
Rod Laver Arena 4:00 pm Start Time
1. Mixed Doubles – Final
Kristina Mladenovic (FRA) vs. Sania Mirza (IND)[6]
Daniel Nestor (CAN) Horia Tecau (ROU)[6]

Not Before: 7.30pm
2. Men’s Singles – Final
Rafael Nadal (ESP)[1] vs. Stanislas Wawrinka (SUI)[8]

LADBROKES ODDS
Rafael Nadal 1.14 v Stanislas Wawrinka 5.50

WEATHERUNDERGROUND MELBOURNE FORECAST
Sunny. High near 27C. Winds SE at 10 to 15 kmh.
Tonight: Clear skies. Low 19C. Winds NE at 15 to 25 kmh.

U.S. TELEVISION SCHEDULE
ESPN has live coverage of the men’s final starting at 3:30am Sunday morning. ESPN3.com will offer live streaming of Wawrinka-Nadal.


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New Grand Slam Champion Stanislas Wawrinka Goes To Hollywood [Video]
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Australian Open Champion Stanislas Wawrinka Arrives In Switzerland [Video]

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370 Comments for Australian Open Men’s Final Open Thread: Rafael Nadal v Stanislas Wawrinka

metan Says:

Come on RAFA! You can do it. Bring #14 home! Wish you millions luck.


Nirmal Kumar Says:

I just wish Stan does not get into the first time finalist syndrome, where he is more happy just to he there rather than eager to win the title. Reading his interview, looks like he is awed by his presence in the finals, which does not sound good to me.

Rafa being the greatest tennis player I have seen, does not look like he is going to lose this match. He knows what to do. This might be slightly a better final than the FO between Rafa vs Ferrer, but i can’t see another winner than Rafa in the AO. Kudos to the greatest champion of our times.


Polo Says:

I can’t seem to force myself to get interested.


coke man G Says:

Polo- whys that? Stans game is quite different from nadals, to me it seems its a style that would interest people who admire federer’s tennis, even if its stans game is based more on power.


Michael Says:

I cannot just see Wawarinka beating Rafa today. He might make it a bit competitive, but in the end it would be Rafa counting his No.14.


WTF Says:

How did you get these stats? Did you look them up or get them from someone else’s report?


Okiegal Says:

Rafa doesn’t look like he’s going bald in this pic……..tons of hair!! LO

Vamos Rafa and take it to Stan. Best of luck to you and bite another trophy……you can do this!!


Slice Tennis Says:

I hope Rafa wins his 6th legitimate slam and equals Nole in that list.
LOL


Margot Says:

Since 2010 either Andy or Rafa has been in every slam final, never meeting of course. Currently Rafa leads the appearances by a fair amount. Time for Andy to do some catching up!
Amazing stat though.


Giles Says:

Vamos Rafa!!


Purcell Says:

Re your first paragraph Nirmal, Exactly my fear but Stan is always a bit self-deprecating so no change.
Polo, agreed with Coke re Stan’s game. Hope it encourages you to watch.


wawawawa Says:

Will there be tie break for the first set?


Slice Tennis Says:

During the first week the talk was all about how fast the court and how Rafa will be struggling on it. This was touted as the fastest conditions for a grandslam in the last decade.
Now the haters are silent about the court. I will not be surprised if they come out and say that the courts were slowed down since Rafa is winning.
LOL.


jatin Says:

I think stan could win this one. His backhand would not break.
My prediction. Stan in 4 ….. You heard it here first. :)


Slice Tennis Says:

Interesting stats from eurosport:
Rafa is 69-10 against top 10 players with single handed BH. All those 10 wins were claimed by Federer.


van orten Says:

wow good morning everybody..ivanisevic is a pretty good commentator. with wilander on eurosport talking straight forward..he was a great server. it is funny he said he doesn t like nadals serve.since i see similarities in both. the slice is just too good at times.
- only attacking will give you enough free short points forcing rafa to get a little more tight.
- rafa is a magician who is brutelly but very passionately unleashing his hard hitted ball…

-hardest player to beat by miles. he never has mental lapses. you have to outplay him throughout the whole match.

-when rafa says after a match I played bad match it means that he could not do anything because the other player did not blink for once.

-that is the problem number one for all the players : blinking vs nadal in crucial moments
- a blinking rafa is very hard to find
these days

heres hoping for a great match


jatin Says:

Great hold by Stan
1-0


van orten Says:

federer has not enough power to outhit nadal the whole match. roger is a master in using the pace of his opponents and bring it back to them. nadal doesnt do that . he uses rogers pace and outplays him at will. so wawrinka def. has more pace to play into that forehand and force some errors.
great match up though horrible one sided h2h


jatin Says:

Amazing rafa serve…….
1-1


jatin Says:

I seriously think Stan has the best backhand put there. That was just amazing.
2-1


jatin Says:

^^
out


jatin Says:

Stan breaks
3-1

So who underestimated wawa here. He is firing all cylinders


Slice Tennis Says:

Great start by Wawa.
Lets see how this one goes


gonzalowski Says:

What a strange Rafa made a dropshot so soon… it’s because his new trainer? Ah no it stands the same.
And then he goes to the net and loses.
Break for Wawrinka 3-1 :(


gonzalowski Says:

4-1 Toni start coaching please


jatin Says:

This Wawa is in god mode
break point chance


Slice Tennis Says:

Yes, Rafa is under pressure. Hope he finds the solution soon…with the help of his uncle.


gonzalowski Says:

What 4 backhands in a row from W.
Bad for Rafa for hitting there 4 in a row


jatin Says:

It was a very close game
rafa holds
4-2


Daniel Says:

Wow, Wawaw hadanother BP to go 5-1, but this time Nadal holds.
He indeed seems resolute


Slice Tennis Says:

Wawa on fire


jatin Says:

Wow. What a game
5-2


Slice Tennis Says:

Wawa has to maintain this form and close this one in 3 sets without allowing Rafa to get into it.
That’s his only chance.


gonzalowski Says:

Wawrinka is being majestic, Soda level.
That failed challenge has disturbed him, and Rafa has started grunting… but he holds 5-2


Slice Tennis Says:

Kudos to Magnus Norman


Daniel Says:

5-2 and a lot of winners in this matvh with very few mistakes.
Wawa had abp last 2 games Nadal served. Let’s see how this game will unfold if he can close the set for the first or not. He better break if possible to not habe to serve it ourpt as he may get tense. This is te moment Nadal can have a comeback: when Wawa feels the preseure


jatin Says:

Rafa does not want to serve wawa’s backhand it seems. Changing tactics.


Daniel Says:

5-3 serving for the set.
This is it for him. He has to close this set with authority


Daniel Says:

0-30. Hate being right;-)
Excelent return winner by Nadal


Daniel Says:

As if Nadal needed a luck net cord in his favor. LOL


Daniel Says:

Wawa has to serve big to get out of this BP


Daniel Says:

3 returnmistaled by rafa on 0-40. Unusual.
Wawa is winning serving 35% firsts serves


Slice Tennis Says:

Wow. First set to Wawa.
Match on.


jatin Says:

So. Great nerves by Wawa. He took his chance in his second serve and wins the set
6-3


gonzalowski Says:

2 double faults for Rafa, but not serving bad IMO.
At the closing of the set, Wawrinka serving worse 0-40
Buff 3 straight fails from Rafa on the rest of 2 nd serve
40-40 and Set for Wawrinka, the crowd grunts too! :)


Daniel Says:

Wow, ave to close out the set.
Now we do have a macth. Can he keep it up? Can he improve his serve he can get more even free points?
Nadal is not playing bad, Waaw who blowed him of the court for a few games with a lot of winners. This second set will be tense.


jatin Says:

Just imagine how dangerous this serve would become if he improves his first serve percentage.

He is playing sublime


van orten Says:

^^^ uncle toni start coaching pls hahahaha


Slice Tennis Says:

Wawa is out to get revenge against Rafa for making his countryman cry here five years back.


jatin Says:

I have never seen something like it EVER. this is out of this world


Daniel Says:

Amazing. Broke. For love.

If he keepst his level he can win n 3 or 4.
Ansewring Slice Tennis questiona the courts is playing fast that’s why ye has more than 10 winners im 10 games played


gonzalowski Says:

22 shots rallie, Nadal has said ‘welcome to 2nd set’. Wawr breaks!! well Wawrinka has said welcome, at the end


Daniel Says:

The question is can he keep it up?
Because the minute Nadal has a break and fist pumps and grunt he will get fired up.
Right now he is not confortable


jatin Says:

Van orten

Uncle toni must be wondering what is hitting him.
Seriously, what can you do when someone is so playing such tennis. As great as Rafa is, this is unreal


Daniel Says:

Nadalfelt the backwhen he landed avter this serve. He didn’t move at all to hit this forehand om the net


metan Says:

Is wawa playing tennis in this century????


Daniel Says:

Weak serve by Nadal and Wawa didn’ttook his chance


jatin Says:

Nadal holds,
2-1


gonzalowski Says:

A bit low now Rafa.. glup! 2-0
Wawrinka rolling away Rafa with, until now 38% 1st serve.
1st Warning for Rafa.
Nadal has to prove that, as they say, he’s a great mechanic for himself.
Rafa’s back now??? Roger’s curse…


Daniel Says:

He called the trainer already?


Vinod Says:

STAN playing great and wow NADAL MTO :)


jatin Says:

What happened now,


Vinod Says:

MTO is ok because of what ? blisters ?? thats not the case ?
What might be the reason ??????


metan Says:

Omg. Please wake up Rafa. You need to be on fire!!!


jatin Says:

Distraction


gonzalowski Says:

MTO, it’s the back
Well done, he needs freeze W. a bit ;)


Vinod Says:

Hilarious with this referee … STAN asks the reason , the referee says its between Nadal and his physio :) and STAN is so pissed now …


jatin Says:

Wawa is not happy clealry


Daniel Says:

He is not on court on Lockers.
He probably had to remove the clothes to treat lower back if that was what hit him.
Wawa is pissed of (rightly so due to Nadal’s historic) because he wants to know and he has the right to do so.
Now i am in depibt regarding the rules. Do the opponent has to know what is going on when the pther goes to the lockers?!


van orten Says:

q pena q rafa tiene q hacer eso.. no entiendo a rafa. eso es juego sucio. y todos lo saben. vamos wawrinka keep ur cool


Vinod Says:

Now STAN focus … he should not allow this into his head


jatin Says:

So from where the hidden injury comes from now out of nowhere ?


van orten Says:

booooingggg ???


Daniel Says:

Hope Stan doesn’t lose focus over this


jatin Says:

Even crowd is booing Rafa now


gonzalowski Says:

Guau van orten je je
Stan pissed off…. And some crowd booing


Vinod Says:

WOW he is fired up by this


Daniel Says:

Hum nadal is feelng pain. His faces says he won’t be aboe to keep it up.
J…. Will he have tor etire in a GS final?!
Lower back is tricky. You can’t serve and all impact affects it.


Vinod Says:

Is something bothering Rafa ??


jatin Says:

Its over,


van orten Says:

vamos rafa.. after all the leasr what we fans want is real injury so maybe we have to be fair this time. rafa looks not good.


gonzalowski Says:

Uf very bad Rafa from that MTO… bad look and very sad about the crow I guess


Daniel Says:

He won’t continue for too long i think. He can’t jump to serve


jatin Says:

He should give a walkover now


Slice Tennis Says:

This match is over.
Rafa is limping, cannot serve, cannot move.
Bye bye 14.


Vinod Says:

Rafa has picked up a back injury it seems … but when in second set ?


jatin Says:

Feeling sad for him.
I think he got this problem after the 1st set when he was pushed by Wawa. He was struggling then.


gonzalowski Says:

He can’t serve. He almost crying


Daniel Says:

Vi od when he served at 30-15 0-2. Helanded feelimg the lower back and didn’t move to hit a forehand on the net right after he reached the back and stretch down. Readmy post above fort he time it happened


metan Says:

My heart broken!!


Daniel Says:

He is probably feeling desperate because he will have to retire in a GS match. Stay or not?!
Even the greates champions and milionaires like him has simple dilemas loke the rest of us. Imagine the humiliation if he retires and the crowds booi png and all the embarassment.


Daniel Says:

Orhe will keep on court. Smack returns, and everything to finish this quick. Don’t know what is worst. Stop now or give Stan a 6-0 or 6-1 fort he crowds. But id iwason the corwdi would not want to see him stay just for the formalities the match is over as it seems


Nirmal Kumar Says:

If Wawa holds this set, I hope match goes to 5. Back could get better as the match goes on.


Okiegal Says:

Let the crowd boo all they want, they’re not gonna get their money’s worth tonite cos Rafa is done unless the pain killers kick in. He isn’t moving much. Will he play 3 or shake hands??


Daniel Says:

Wawa now must be pissed beacuse he can’t finish a game with Nadal crippled


Vinod Says:

For 1 and half sets the match was competitive but now :(


gonzalowski Says:

No one supporting Nadal in the stadium????!!!!
Can’t believe…
Have I missed something, or people there is being just cruel?


Daniel Says:

He will try everything Most MTO as he can and when the set ends another break. At leats he is trying


Vinod Says:

@Nirmal , wat ??? You think Rafa can go upto 5 th set with this condition ?


the DA Says:

Hopefully during the fireworks the painkillers will kick in. This is no way to win/lose a slam.


Daniel Says:

NirmalI though that too. Body heata nd adrenaline may relieve the pain. But if is that lowerpart closeto coccix, not much he can do. I had to stop play once because of similar think but maine was after I ran to the front tog et a short ball and when Ilanded my foot and strech down I felt imediatelly.


Giorgio Says:

I think Nadal is going to make a comeback to the game starting now and cath Wawrinka by surprise…


jatin Says:

Even Stan would not have wanted to win his first slam like this. But he deserve it. He showed the tennis of the century in first set.


metan Says:

@ Nirmal
Are you a doctor?? How could it works so fast.???


Daniel Says:

This is the worst thing that can happen in a GS final. Because even a blowoit like RG 2008 has it’s beauty, to the fans of the winning player;-)
Regardless of the end. For 1 amd a half set it was Wawa show and even that he will winin this conditions (as Nadal could have returned in the match). He was the deserving winner keeping a high level against Djoko, Berdych and Nadal


Brando Says:

Congrats to Wawa. Beyond devastated to see Rafa suffer such a fate in such a match.


Daniel Says:

Nadal indeed has bad luck in AO. 2 times didn’t play (06′ and 13′). 3 times injured during matches (10′, 11′ and 14′) and his worst defeat 12′.


jatin Says:

So champion hold by Rafa 1-0


Okiegal Says:

Rafa wants off the court…..sad for him. Looks like Stan the man will finally beat Rafa. Looking dismal for Rafa unless the pain killers help him.


Nirmal Kumar Says:

metan, I’m not a doctor. But I have seen playes have this kind of pain and slowly their adrnaline helps to relieve the pain. It works for supreme athletes, which Rafa is. I’m not saying it will, but it can

Meanwhile, Wawa seems to be confused and is not playing his aggressive tennis now. He is hoping Nadal would give it to him. This could help Nadal too.


Lenny Says:

Stan’s being robbed of a “legitimate” win, Rafa’s being robbed of a chance to fight, the fans are being robbed of what could’ve been a great final. :/ There are no winners here.


Daniel Says:

This situation is bad for the winner side as wellbecuse he has to adjust to the opponent injury and that phantom is on the court. The losing sides smacks everything and sometimes start winnng.

Well one thig is clear, Nadal will play the set


jatin Says:

Rafa breaks
2-0


Daniel Says:

Now that Nada decided to play and hold serve and break now Wawa has to play his game as he was and not get into the he will retire at any monute.


Okiegal Says:

No fist pump for that break from Rafa.


jatin Says:

Stan game has dropped


Nirmal Kumar Says:

I think its only Rafa’s serve is more impacted. He seems to be Ok on the Groudstrokes. It does not look as bad as people think here.


Vinod Says:

STAN making more UF s


Daniel Says:

The situation got Wawa of his self. Nadal just puttig serve on court and he missed 2 returns. He doesn’t have to rush the points. Get himself together and finish this


Okiegal Says:

@Kenny

You are so right. Everyone wants to see a tight final, but I don’t think it’s in the stars for Rafa tonite.


Daniel Says:

Nirmal,

Now it didn’t but duormg that 3 games strech in the end of second set it look like he would retire than


Giorgio Says:

Stan considerably dropping his game was part of the strategy…


Okiegal Says:

You tennis players out there that know the rules….why was Stan upset over the MTO??? Just curious.


Nirmal Kumar Says:

metan, are u seeing the match now. what do you think?


kriket Says:

Nadal folding or faking?


Purcell Says:

What a little hero our Nadal is. Got you all fooled yet again.


Daniel Says:

Wawagettong pissed because it’s also embarrasing to be losing this set to a player injured. He has to clam down and regroup fast 2 more service games by Nadal amd he will take it to fourth


Daniel Says:

Nadal will go for winners allt he time. He has to shorten points


Slice Tennis Says:

This is absolutely poor play from Wawa.
There is no need to show mercy to an injured opponent at all.
He should go for the kill and finish this match.
This is boring stuff.

Ferrer did not show any mercy on 26th Jan 2011.


gonzalowski Says:

Purcell he’s injured… A bit at least


metan Says:

@ Nirmal. I am watching. Thanks for the info. I learn something today.


Vinod Says:

What a winner by STAN


Slice Tennis Says:

It will be bizarre if Rafa wins this set.
Please Stan…step it up and be a man.


Daniel Says:

What a BH. Off the court already
I thonk Nadla shoudl not play his self. When he was limping he was winning when he gives pace Wawa dominates.
Nada. Hitting serves and strokes more power now…hum


Giorgio Says:

kriket, Nadal is neither folding or faking. Nadal was emotionally injured more than anything else because Wawrinka was, like someone else said, playing in “God Mode” and something had to be done…


Lenny Says:

@kriket @Purcell

Really? If that was faking, he needs an Oscar. :/


metan Says:

Rafa should back off otherwise people thinking he is faking.


kriket Says:

Wawrinka is slipping. Is he feeling merciful or just lost his focus I can’t tell.


metan Says:

Rafa health is more important than this ao trophy. Wawa deserves it!!


Daniel Says:

Wawa let nNadal in this set. Should have brepoken first game when he was 15-40. Now Nadal could take the set. Bur remember that some pthing similiar happened agaisnt Murray once


Slice Tennis Says:

Murray and Ferrer are Rafa’s best friends, but they did not show any kind of mercy in 2010 and 2011.
Please Stan….play your normal tennis.
This is getting ugly.


Daniel Says:

Wawa can’t get desperate


Vinod Says:

STAN foucus man … lost 4 break points in this set


Daniel Says:

OMG. Wawa is getting Wacko now


gonzalowski Says:

They’re coaching Wawrinka!
Rafa playing very inside, and taking risks…


Slice Tennis Says:

Absolutely poor match. Its like watching an exo without the fun factor.


Daniel Says:

Use a drop shot Wawa


Rick Says:

All Fed fans are cheering for Warinka! hehe


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Wawa gave away the set to Nadal, Maybe the match?


malher Says:

rafa is a fake – he is not really injured – bad loser thats all – he is a farce!!!!!!


Slice Tennis Says:

Rafa has taken the third set.

This is probably the worst set I have seen in my life.
These guys are spoiling a GS final.


Okiegal Says:

I don’t think Stan is feeling merciful, he just got mad when Rafa took the medical time out and lost his concentration.


malher Says:

What a joke!!!!!


kriket Says:

Nadal wins the third. Wawrinka seriously slipping. He should’ve won the match in this set, now it’s unpredictable again if he continues to play like this. Even though Nadal has to win 2 sets in a row. You never know really.


kriket Says:

Nadal wins the third. Wawrinka seriously slipping. He should’ve won the match in this set, now it’s unpredictable again if he continues to play like this. Even though Nadal has to win 2 sets in a row. You never know really.


the DA Says:

Rafa has a back spasm and Wawa responds with a brain spasm. Can you imagine if he unravels?

Maybe the painkillers have kicked in. Rafa’s serve is still significantly slower than the first set.


Slice Tennis Says:

Hey Fed fans,
Do you honestly think Rafa won this set ?

Don’t you clearly see that Wawa is just showing mercy just for the sake of spectators ?

This match was over clearly in the beginning of the second set.


Daniel Says:

Rick

As if Rafa fans were not cheering Wawa when he beat Djoko;-)


van orten Says:

reminds me of the murray fed match.. the fitter player is stan so he should win this by serving well and put pressure on rafas serve


gonzalowski Says:

Malher, he moves poorly, doesn’t he?


Okiegal Says:

First time I have ever seen Rafa take a set after being 2 sets down and mot vamos and fist pump and celebrate.


Daniel Says:

The match is over when somebody retires or the last point is played. We are fa from both those situations now


metan Says:

Why did wawa give him a set ???? Any thing to trade in.????


van orten Says:

slice tennis I get your point. stan is the man truely


tfouto Says:

Rafa took painkillers for sure. It’s helping to some sort.


Daniel Says:

15-40 and he missed 3 returns. Bizarre


Slice Tennis Says:

metan Says:
“Why did wawa give him a set ???? Any thing to trade in.????”

Definitely something fishy.


Daniel Says:

Nadal saved 4 or 5 games wiht BP already. Stans can get frustrated


jatin Says:

And Rafa is serving 180 kph again like first set.


Vinod Says:

STAN ‘s level clearly dropped


Daniel Says:

Oddly Stan was finishing a fit nadal but can’t finish an injured one


Slice Tennis Says:

Rafa is playing like a dead man, but still Stan is not taking advantage of this.


kriket Says:

Rafa’s meds obviously kicked in. He even resumed his serving ritual. Wawrinka better pull himself together if he wants to win this.


van orten Says:

but stan clearly choking on break points.. 3 ue in a row . this is so his to lose..but as long as he is serving well it is just a matter of time before he breaks


Lenny Says:

@Malher

So, Rafa just threw away half the 2nd set to consolidate his “fakery”??? Yeah, that makes sense.


jatin Says:

Stan was beating a fully fit Rafa and now he is struggling against a less fit one. WOW.


Giles Says:

Vamos Rafa!


Daniel Says:

Wawa is not playing good on BP after the drama. If he plays good those points the match ends


Polo Says:

This will be the mother of all chokes if Wawrinka loses after being up two sets and an injured opponent.


Daniel Says:

The match is complicating because now he has all responsability for what is happening. He can lose this with amentl colapse. Anything can happend now


metan Says:

Come on wawa. Go on finish your job!!
I am really confused now!!!


gonzalowski Says:

Rafa shows the fist again!


Daniel Says:

Wawa needs a breaka nd je will play freely again. The soon he will break the better for him. He couldn’t play a return game without missing easy returns in a long time.


Salleh Ahmed Says:

This will be the biggest choke of all time if stan loses this match.


Polo Says:

Come on Rafa, beat him with your brainwaves!


Daniel Says:

Heis playing with fire here but was a good defense by Nadal


Daniel Says:

Now this is it. He has to break now otherwisehe van mlodethe next game.


Daniel Says:

Finally


Daniel Says:

Nadal is totally in the match now


Polo Says:

Shall I get ready to eat my words about Nadal and this years calendar slam?


Slice Tennis Says:

This appears to be a staged match.


jatin Says:

Stan would have won this in straights had Rafa didn’t had that back problem in 2nd set.
Suddenly Rafa is back to his usual self.


gonzalowski Says:

Polo hehe :)


Daniel Says:

Jesus. Nadal only placing more warms in Wawa’s mind.


Polo Says:

Well, maybe not.


Okiegal Says:

This is crazy!! Rafa breaks, back on serve

Vamos Rafa!#


Daniel Says:

Well hope thay just keep breakimg each other now this way Stan takes ir;-)


the DA Says:

LOL. Stan is trying his best not to win. This is turning into a farce.


Polo Says:

The longer Nadal keeps this set close, the worse it is going to be for Wawa.


Daniel Says:

Thia point showed match had another face now


Polo Says:

Magnus Norman should ask permission to go to the court to smack Wawa in the head to put him back to his senses.


Slice Tennis Says:

Stan….please finish it off now.


Daniel Says:

2 chances to breakand serve for the match.


tfouto Says:

WTF wawrinka… calm down. Take some anti-stre
ss pills.


Daniel Says:

This is it. Serving for the match and first Grand Slam!!!
Arm will get heavy


Polo Says:

Nadal keeps losing his serve due to injury while Wawa loses his due to nerves.


Daniel Says:

Serve and volley. Brave
2 more points to go!!!


Slice Tennis Says:

Congrats Wawa.
But you should have finished it off in the third.


Polo Says:

I have a big breakfast to eat!


metan Says:

Thanks God. It’s over!!!


gonzalowski Says:

Uffff Wawrinka won it!!!
Congrats to him


Margot Says:

Congrats to Stan. :) Terrific play in first set. After that v. bizarre match.
Commies to Rafa fans :(


Nirmal Kumar Says:

I think a distracted Wawa takes in 4. Most likely he would have won it in 3rd, but we never know. Rafa is the greatest champion of our time, and to see him not play his best in the finals is a pity.

Kudos to Wawa. I wish him more major success. With the game he has, if he can keep his mental strength he could win couple of more slams. Fantastic tennis and shotmaking of highest quality we have seen in recent times.

I thought we might miss the Novak vs Nadal finals. But this one defeinitely had better shotmaking in the one and half sets than any of their matches.


Salleh Ahmed Says:

how funny tennis is.

most were talking about nadals 14th GS.

Congratz Wawrinka. you deserved it.first win against nadal. and that on the biggest stage. Chapeu.


Polo Says:

Congratulations to Wawrinka. Here is one instance where the coach, Magnus Norman, deserves a share of the victory. Wawrinka’s improvement has been astonishing since their collaboration.


Giles Says:

Well done Wawa.
This is Rafa’s worst slam.
#Jinxed


Colin Says:

Yet another in the ongoing series of demonstrations that prediction is a mug’s game

Good thing Nadal didn’t win, otherwise we’d have had to put up with something even sillier than prediction – claims of faking.


Brando Says:

I hope the Rafa haters enjoy this. I hope they enjoy the misfortune that befell the man here. A set and a mere break down only to a man we knew he could beat at his AO curse rears its ugly head. Anyone with a semblance of heart will feel for Rafa here. Credit to Wawa for showing compassion and not celebrating. Well done Stan for that and your win.


Daniel Says:

Congratulations Wawrinka!! Amazing tourney!

To Humble Rafa, the OTHER swiss says thanks

To Slice Tennis, Rick, giles and hawkeye, semes the fake GOAT wannabe can’t play 4-5 Slams without having an injury problem. Part of being GOAT is consistency.

Now he has losing records in 2 Slams: 2-3 in Wimbledona and 1-2 in AO. Oustide RG he is 5-6. How can he be the GOAT?!

To other nice Nadal fans. Sorry but i have to mock on those above. Terrible to see the match ends like this wih Nadal having an injury in AO again.
Wea ll know he will regroup from that. Bit is never nice to see your fave hurt on court and look so frustrated. I thought he would retire.

What we learn from thisa nything can happen. Now what seemed to be a CYGS for Nadal if Djoko beat him in RG his year changes completelly.

AO curse: no player can get to 14 Slams here!


Okiegal Says:

Congrats to Stan on his first slam. How in the world did Rafa win that third set??

Vamos Rafa your are still my number one!!! Get that back in good shape for the next tournament!!


van orten Says:

this is sport …the big 2 cannot have it all. nadal lost vs wawa before fed lost vs selpo not in topform… I am happy for the others ..stan can win rg too. he will be hard to beat…he has the power the game and consistency to play awesome points. great season ahead nothing is written in stone…rafa shows he is human .. he grows on me folks.


the DA Says:

That was the weirdest slam final I’ve seen in a long long time. So unfortunate for both that it had to play out in that fashion. People will attach an asterisk.

Stan never won anything bigger than an ATP 250 and now he’s the holder of a slam. hehe

Commiserations Rafa fans. Everyone who understands tennis knows something was very wrong with him today. Hopefully it’s not a long-term injury.


metan Says:

Congrats to Wawa. He deserves it.


Brando Says:

Rafa seems so heartbroken here. :-(


Tennis X guy Says:

Has Stan just made sure that Federer’s record of 17 majors is out of reach for Rafa?I certainly think so,especially if Nole finally manages to win RG.


Polo Says:

Rafa looks Stanned during the awards ceremony.


Giles Says:

Daniel. Hope you feel better now overdosing on meths. Hater!!!


Nirmal Kumar Says:

I wish people do no take away the rightful credit for Wawa, claiming Nadal’s injury. He was a better player, broke Rafa’s ground strokes, broke Rafa’s back and Rafa’s will.

Greatest champions come back very strongly. Rafa and Roger have shown this to us countless number of times. I wish Rafa comes back stronger and this injury is a minor one and does not impact his next tournament.


gonzalowski Says:

Magnus Norman is in Nadal’s head.
No more big 4 In Atp?

Sorry for him… and for me and Nadalists :(
Smart Sampras


Bad Knee Rules Says:

Pete Sampras is giving the trophy to … Wawrinka.


Djokerfan Says:

Just cannot believe it. A few hours ago, I read this preview which predicted Stan in 4 sets and had a laugh. Now, I bow to the wisdom of these guys. http://sportzcosmos.com/2014/01/25/ever-tried-ever-failed-tattoo-to-title/


Daniel Says:

Somewhere Federes is popping a bottle right now!!
Because his friend won. He must be really happy for him and pround and his records are safe a little longer.

Magnus Normal sure deserves some credit. Wawa changing direction this tour ey was a thing of beauty to watch.

Season just got more exciting. Imagine if none of the top names win Slams thsi year?!


Giles Says:

Thank goodness neither fed nor joker won this.


tfouto Says:

Wow… Congratulations to Wawrinka fans… not many, until now. Wawrinka played tennis from the next century.

Sorry for Nadal fans, especially Brando.
Hope Nadal gets up physically and mentally.

Wawrinka won against Djokovic and

Nadal on the sam


Slice Tennis Says:

Please Rafa…don’t cry.


Slice Tennis Says:

Positives for Rafa:
Injury is not so serious
Nole and Fed did not win this AO


tfouto Says:

The same Grand Slam. What a feat.


van orten Says:

it is not about enjoying others defeat .
it is about feeling that you cannot have them all the trophies ,close wins, luck, grit etc. nadal is one of the goats. forever he will be the greatest player to beat. he is the ultimate challenge. he is a great guy


Daniel Says:

Giles,

I don’t understand this “hater” thing. I think this is projection. You probably “hate” Federer and Djokovic and anyone who doesn’t like Nadal play is a “hater”.
Sorry, I am a Fed fan and most of all tennis fan. But always apreciate greatnessa nd Nadal is in that level. He completung a second career Grand Slam would be awesome and he can do it still in his career. He would be the first in Open era. Do i want heim to reach that acolade? NO but if he do I will appreciate


van orten Says:

I got the tears .. oh man


Slice Tennis Says:

Champion stuff from Rafa. No crying like a child.


Daniel Says:

See Nadal is human too and if he is not crying he almost is because his eyes are watered.


gonzalowski Says:

Melbourne’s crowd has acted today like hicks.
Rafa crying… but a professional in his speech

Congrats to Stan and fans again


Djokerfan Says:

Wonderful speech from Rafa!


Daniel Says:

The 3 Slams holders will be top 3 tomorrow. Ag leastt he ranking is in accordance with Slams


Giles Says:

Look at it this way all Rafans. If Wawa hadnt beaten joker we probably would have had a 7 hr final v joker which Rafa might have lost considering his very tuff draw. So, just accept the loss and hope Rafa recovers well from his injury.
Vamos Champ!


Purcell Says:

Giles and Slice. Stop sniping and enjoy Stan’s victory.


metan Says:

Rafa is really unlucky in AO. First blister and now in this important moment he got this back problem.
How though just to get one slam. So sad for RAFA. Never cross in my mind this thing happened. Thanks He lost. Otherwise people think it was fake.


Ranjit Says:

@Djokerfan: Yeah the consensus seems overwhelmingly in favor of Rafa. What an accurate 4 setter win prediction. Clearly Harish saw the prowess behind Stan’s game.


Brando Says:

Proud of Rafa. All tennis fans should be. How he kept his grace publicly and even smiled for Stan when he most be so heartbroken shows what a champion and a man he is.


Brando Says:

Rafa talking with Peter. Nice.


Slice Tennis Says:

A great presentation ceremony. Nice warm words with Sampras and Wawa.


Giorgio Says:

Wawrinka deserved to win the Tournament. He outplayed every single opponent he met and he did so with Nadal as well during the first and a half set. Nadal is great and will go on to become the greatest tennis player of all time. Stop with all the drama and feeling sorry for Nadal; probably everyone here wish they could be in his shoes even today. He lost a game; lot’s of simple guys who betted on him to win are surely feeling much worse by now…


Daniel Says:

Sorry, Djoko is not Slam holder anymore. Murray is have to check the rankings to see how it stays. But it’s not top4 anymore.

Hope the other ones feel inspired by this Stan win. Teonga, Berdych, DelPotro


Tennis X guy Says:

I am a Federer fan but even I was moved after seeing Rafa cry.


Brando Says:

And now Rafa fans autographs- class personified.


gonzalowski Says:

In general today’s top 10 are good losers, maybe Djoko and Nadal the best of them


gonzalowski Says:

nowadays’ top10 sorry


Giles Says:

Rafa’s best match was against the fake goat who was hoping to beat Rafa. If he had beaten Rafa he would have been holding the trophy now. So, thank goodness for small mercies!
Vamos Rafa!
Stay Healthy!


Brando Says:

And now he cries walking off- I feel for him. Rafa does not mind losing. He does not mind being 0-2 down- ALL he would have wanted was to face that challenge. Sadly the back did not let after he deservedly was a set and a break down. What’s worse is: he was capable of winning for that position. So sad fate has cursed him at AO in this manner.


jatin Says:

I predicted the 4 sets victory in this thread even before the match started.

Feeling sorry for rafa fans. Could feel your pain as we have felt the same when fed was chasing his 14th.
But he will come back stronger. A fighter, a champion.


I Love Tennis Says:

A BIG BIG CONGRATULATIONS to STAN ….


Polo Says:

That must be the toughest speech Nadal had to give in a majors. The more I see this guy, both in victory and in defeat, the more I get to like him.


Brando Says:

Last word: congratulations to Stan. Nice guy, I’m glad Pre match I backed him as a challenge to Rafa unlike those who wrote him off and now are lapping his win. And thanks also to him for being so nice towards Rafa. Respect increases for Stan.


Djokerfan Says:

Jatin, sorry I missed out your prediction. Brave and perspicacious.


gonzalowski Says:

agree Brando


jatin Says:

This slam almost reminded me of 2009. I hope now some idiots stop calling Roger the cry baby. Only someone who has put his entire effort in the match and yet lost it would feel how much it hurts. There’s something about Australian Open. Roger cried in 2009, Andy in 2010, and now Rafa It connects unlike any other slam with the players.


the DA Says:

Rafa seems to have an injury jinx at the AO (as does Serena). That’s three years now: 2010, 2011 & 2014.


Salleh Ahmed Says:

Dont think that rafa will have it easy now to wins slams. cant see him passing rogers GS numbers. Had he won, i would have given him a chance.

from now on it will be very difficult.


jatin Says:

Djokerfan
No problem mate. I knew there was something about stan which a lot of people underestimated.

We have a new grand slam champion after a long time.


Okiegal Says:

CONGRATULATIONS TO STAN THE MAN!! Happy for his fans. I know Stan wishes Rafa had been in top form. However, Stan was playing lights out from the get go……a minor hitch in the third, but got it done
anyway.

Vamos Rafa!!


Tennis X guy Says:

Yes Ahmed you are right.Especially if Novak wins RG.Rafa has not done well at Wimbledon at all in the last 2 years and Roger could sneak in one more major.I do not see Rafa winning another USO,which means that he could go majorless.Next year he will be 28 and it will be difficult for him to win 6 majors as a 28 year old.I see Fed finishing with 19 majors and Rafa 16.


Daniel Says:

Slice Tennis, giles,

Nadal indeed cried and there is no shame in that. Pathetic your post saying: “plase don’t cry”, or saymg fed is a cry baby. Now you will never be able to mock on that would ya?!
As if Nadal is less of a chamoon or a man for cryng after such a devastating situation for a champipn like him. No wonder Slice Tennis vanished after he cried.


Giles Says:

A new grand slam champion beating an injured Nadal. Calls for an asterisk, no?


Okiegal Says:

Even when Rafa broke Stan there was not one bit of celebration from Rafa, the grunting was minimal too.
He knew he couldn’t deliver…..He was defeated in the moment of his back problem……too bad for him.


Giles Says:

Daniel. Don’t call Rafa a cry baby because he lost. He cried because he was injured once again at the AO. He takes his wins and losses like the Champion he is. In 2009 when he beat fed they were both healthy.


Daniel Says:

Nadal has some positives. Last 2 times he played AO, fnalist; last 3 times he played US Open he was winner, runner up and winmer. All matches against Djokovic (his main rival and te man who beat him the most, 16 times). RG he dominates until somebodyntake it from him and Wimby he has 2disapointing defeats bit if he cam get back to second week who knows.
He has more Slams in him just how many more we don’t know
I still feel Fed has 1 more in him, Wimby or US Open maybe.
But this just comes to show that are a lot of intangibles in a tennis mactha nd why is so dificult to win Slams. If it was that easy Nadal or Djoko would have had 3 Slamper years more often. That ia why Fed is so great and people still dimishi his achievements having only later years in mind when he is after his peak. Let’s see what will happen but as of now he has 17 woerked hard for it and deserve more respect and credit in here.


Giles Says:

This slam is a total jinx for Rafa. Where on earth did this back injury come from?
# TotallyJinxed


Brando Says:

@Giles:

We need to look at the facts:

1. Wawrinka had NEVER beaten Rafa before.

2. He had NEVER won a set let alone 3 before.

3. The score was 0-1 in set’s, 0-2 in game with Rafa 40-30 up on serve.

A set and a break is NOTHING for a Champion like Rafa to come back from.

4. Even IF Rafa went down 2-0 set’s wise: would you back a fully fit Nadal to push a naturally Wawa in that circumstance? Of course you would.

5. This was Wawa’s debut final: he ALWAYS was going to get nervous near the finishing line. Who knows what could have happened.

As good as Wawa played:

He was NOT really running away with it. FACT is: Rafa had him 0-40, faced 3 second serves in a row from a very, very nervous Wawa and simplet let him off the hook.

Rafa should have broken him there- no 2 ways about it and had it back on serve.

And he ONLY was a break down in the second, aka nothing. He was down a break v Novak in the 5th set of RG- turned that around didn’t he?

ULTIMATELY:

In Tennis there is NO ASTERISK to a win. Record books do not do that.

Wawa is a deserving winner, and Rafa showed his class in defeat there for all to see.

YET:

The ONE thing Rafa would have wanted was to give his all from start to end in the match. And we all know:

He could NOT say he did so since fate intervened.

This was NO INJURY- just a cruel, untimely back spasm. A intervention of fate.

Rafa has had cruel luck at AO now: Retires v Muzza in 10′, injured v Ferrer, loses in 5th v Novak and now this.

I do not mind the loss. At all.

I just feel sad for my guy in the manner he lost. He was NOT allowed the chance physically to fight like all know he can due to unfortunate turn of events.

Had that spasm not happened:

I best most non- Rafa fans and commentators would have expected him to win.


jatin Says:

Giles
Downplaying stan’s win would be the last thing a true rafa fan would do. Stan was clearly the far better player even before rafa was not injured. Give credit where its due. Thank you


Daniel Says:

Giles.

Crying is crying, no double standards. De asting lost and people deal with it. Other champions had similar situation and did’t cry. People react different. Now that is a standard. You can only cry if youa re injured. P.L.E.A.S.E!!

Not that i think of it but I could go bully and say to you; “oh he injuredhimself during a matc, lost and cryed, boo hoo”. It all depends in perspective. The thing is he cryed he is human he felt it, it was i ortant for him and he felt devastates. Same with Federer.

Seems this events happened to show you rafa fanatics some humbleness. Lear from your champ!!


Michael Says:

First of all, hearty congratulations to Wawrinka. He is a deserving Champion and his win is more special since he managed to defeat both Novak and Rafa in the same tournament, an unique feat which has been possible only for the first time. He played some superlative Tennis out there and was outrallying Rafa from the back of the court for almost one and half sets when Rafa was fully fit and was facing the onslaught against a rampaging Wawrinka. Wawrinka was playing some high quality, sharp, precise and splendid hitting on both the flanks keeping Rafa off guard. It was then the mishap happened and Rafa sought that time out presumably to treat his back and the whole atmosphere changed and the match took a bizarre turn. In the third set, Rafa clearly had problems in serving and was just contended to place the ball on court. But Rafa’s back problems has had an effect on the psyche of Wawrinka which upset his concentration as it is always difficult to play an injured player. The slowness of Rafa’s serve caused Wawrinka to commit a lot of UEs and Rafa took that third set. Once after winning the third set, Rafa was back to his normal self and was playing to his normal level in the fourth. But all credit to Stan who rediscovered his splendid form which deserted him in the third set and he played a splendid fourth set and won quite deservingly. By virtue of this win, he becomes the World No.3 and also the Swiss No.1. To top it all, he has become a Grand Slam Champion. Great going Stan. All the best !!


Brando Says:

@Daniel:

A question:

Do you- and I want your honesty here- think Rafa would have won this match had it not been for the back spasm?

Do you think Rafael Nadal the fighter, the guy with a 12-0 record v Wawa would have risen and fought back v Wawa had that spasm not occured?

Be honest.


Bad Knee Rules Says:

———-
A new grand slam champion beating an injured Nadal.
———-
Can you please STFU. Stan destroyed Nadal’s confidence in the first set and a half, and then destroyed his back. Stan is the Man, and deservedly so.


Brando Says:

Says it all:

Rafa Nadal certainly exemplifies the Kipling quote: “If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster And treat those two impostors just the same”


Polo Says:

People who cannot handle the truth are now coming up with their “what ifs, could haves, what haves” theories.

Nadal and Wawrinka played. Wawrinka won. Nadal lost. That’s all. Congratulate the winner and wish the loser a better luck next time. Stop whining and just move on!


Michael Says:

Australia has always not been a lucky venue for Rafa. He retired against Andy and Ferrer in the quarter finals and also had to skip last year. It is quite unfortunate that he had this back ache in the midst of the second set which spoiled the atmosphere of the match. It is his physical problems which is stopping Rafa from reaching the pinnacle of glory. Though I am not sure whether a fully fit Rafa would have beaten Stan today considering that he was outplayed for a set and half, yet nobody can write him off. It was courageous for him to continue the match and win the third set although it can be attributed to lapse of concentration on the part of Wawarinka. But still he fought like a Lion till the end not disappointing the crowd. He will definitely have his chances in future to equal Laver and Emerson record of having won each of the slam atleast twice. My commiserations to all his fans who had to endure this pain filled drama.


Daniel Says:

Brando

The way Wawaw was paling I think he would win in 3. But knowing Nadal, everytime the sets would get closer to the end he would have a shor as he alwasy does. Wawa imporved his serve and he was hitting winners at will. He reminded me of Soderling. He was disruoted by all the situation which affected his cincentration completelly. I think if Nadaljust got better in the match he will deal better with ti that. What happened. I thought nadal would retire and some others also. He must felt the same. Is always tricky this situation because you have to change the way you were playing. You start thinking. This guy can’t play propoerly but is swinging freely and tou start to get tense. This showed that Wawa stillhave some mental issues and those could have come in a later part of the match. BUt he overcome Djoko and Berdych in coose matchs and once he won first set. Everything that happened in the past was out. He won a setand was on the way of winning the match as he was doung all tourney. He was the name of the tournament.
So I think he would have won but Nadal had a 50 % chance stillin the match the way it was in the score. But tennis wise i was very impressed by Wawa


Polo Says:

Oops, change “what haves” to “would haves”. :-)


Daniel Says:

Jesus. Typing in ipad is wors than iphone. My spelling is awfull and I tend to not get back to read whatkwrite. Sorry folks


Michael Says:

What if Rafa did not have that back problem in the midst of the match ? Would he have won then ? It is difficult to say because for one and half sets it was Wawrinka who was dominating him from the back of the court. Ofcourse, Rafa is a tenacious fighter who never gives up, yet it can only be good for academic discussion. In the end, Stan deservingly won and that is it. There can be no excuses in Tennis. You need to be fully fit and if you are not, that is your problem. You cannot discount another player’s win due to that.


Polo Says:

Hahaha, Daniel. You can disable the auto spelling from your iPad.


Vinod Says:

Big Congrats to STAN THE MAN :) but don’t know where could he go from here


Brando Says:

@Daniel:

Thanks for your answer. Personally: I think the match would have depended on mentality of both players.

For me: Rafa was surprisingly nervous.

Yes: Wawa was playing well but outplaying him? I backed Stan WAY MORE pre match than what folks are doing post match and facts are facts:

Wawa was serving a pathetic 38% in. I repeat:

38% first serve in. How on earth is that Wawa firing at his best?

He was ONLY a game up in set 1. Serving for the set:

He was 0-40 down and served 3 second serves in a row.

Again: how is that outplaying Rafa.

I don’t think Rafa is impregnable. He can be outplayed. Rosol outplayed him for example. To me:

Rafa was playing below par in the first set and especially on his return. Compare that Rafa to the one v the better Swiss Fed and ask it the the same player?

Of course not. And he was ONLY a game down in the 2nd set, i.e. NOTHING.

IMHO ULTIMATELY:

Rafa was in the position he was in- from his side of the court- since he was unusually nervous. Within a game at the start I thought Rafa won’t have it easy today, not because of Wawa since it seemed Rafa lacked his usual mental composure.

We ALL knew that this match would get tight, and as soon as Rafa placed ANY form of pressure on Wawa then we ALL saw what happened:

Wawa lost the 3rd set since he was bottling it big time.

I think had Rafa been 0-2 down he still could have come back. AT LEAST had a chance of doing so- and that’s all he would have wanted. Either way:

BOTTOM LINE:

It’s done. It’s history. Wawa won the title and overall he deserved it since he played the best Tennis this week.

The final was in his QF v Novak and he won that fair and square. On that basis: he deserves this title.

Rafa: He’s a fighter and he’ll fight back. If anything:

His desire to win RG will be even more ramped up and his determination to win it will be fired moreso by the pain of this loss.


Daniel Says:

Brando,

Wawawas 1 point of being up 5-1. To me that’s outplaying. And apart from the last game firta set he was winning with low percentage as you pointed out imagine if he could serve bigger. Nadal’s retunr maybe has something to do with Stan serve. With Federer, seems Nadal can read him quite well.
I just saw his presser and he said he felt pain before the match.
Agree wi the rest you said.


Kimberly Says:

Ughh just woke up missed all the action.
From what I’m reading I’m glad I missed it! Congrats to wawrinka


Perfect fan Says:

So so happy for stan….d way he was playing today, he cud have won against fed too. Congrats stan and WELCOME to the top 3.

Mus say, rafa is a great champion….d way he continued till the end even when struggling, won my heart. He cud have retired as he knew he was not gonna win tonite, but he didn’t want to rob stan’s moment, so he played on….fed is also another such player.

Also have to say this….i was touched seeing rafa on the verge of tears in the second set and during the awards ceremony. Fed too cried in 2009….but not bcoz he lost to rafa but bcoz he had put in that many efforts to get it and how much he loves the game, the honour to be crowned the best. Same was the case with Rafa today and I m pleased that he showed emotions….proud of him. There r certain fed haters who never leave a moment to be sarcastic towards fed calling him a cry baby which completely puts me off….but let this b a lesson to them that champions r also humane and they also go thru the same pain like others.

BOL rafa for rest of the season….stan, live this moment.


Brando Says:

@Michael:

I agree. My sorrow as a Nadal fan is the fact that: he just did NOT have the chance to have fair shot at whether he could turn it around or not. Why?

Because fate intervenes with a back spasm of all things. He’s never had that before. It’s not even an injury. At most: after 5 days he’ll be fine and it’s a past issue. What it certainly was:

A cruel intervention from fate.

I just looked at the match stats:

1. Wawrinka ONLY served 55% first serves in in this match. Pre match: would anyone say Wawa would get away with the title with such a serve stat v a returner like Rafa?

Hell no!

2. Wawa ONLY converted 33% of BP chances. Again: would ANYONE pre match say Wawa would win with a poor conversion stat such as that?

Hell no!

I’m sorry but:

I cannot accept folks say Wawa outplayed Rafa in that ONE mere set he nearly choked away at the end and with ONE mere break.

Did he play better at that time? Yes.

But was it Wawa’s best? Hell no! NOWHERE near his Novak level.

Was it a level Rafa could have faced and bettered as the match wore on? Of course he could.

Was the match situation bleak for Rafa pre spasm? Not at all. Bad- of course.But irreversible? Hell no!

I think we ALL know:

Rafa would have fought back, made it a tighter affair, and pressurized Wawa.

Would Wawa have held his nerve under such a onslaught? We’ll NEVER know.

All we know is: against a blatantly affected Rafa he lost a set and also blew a lead in the 4th set.

He quite obviously was choking at the FIRST SIGN of Nadal pressure.

BOTTOM LINE:

Wawa won. I’m pleased for him since he’s a great guy, talent and was awesome in post match conduct.

The titles his without asterisk. End off.

Just as a Rafa fan- I feel sad he NEVER got the chance to fight back like we all sensed he could due to a cruel twist of fate.

I don’t think that’s sour and any compassionate fan of the game can understand that- such as your good self- and see why a Rafa fan would rue such luck.

He had the chance to make history but he could not: Did he lose a better player? Yes. But did that player face ALL of Rafa’s best in all of the match? No.

And was there time, opportunity for Rafa to turn it all around from 1-0, 2-0 down had the spasm not occurred?

I think we all know: yes is the answer to that.


Michael Says:

But all the headline screams “Wawrinka won due to Nadal’s injury” and that is totally unfair in my opinion.


Brando Says:

@Daniel:

We both saw the match. We are 2 people who interpreted it differently. Not the first time in human history for such a thing to happen.

It’s fine. No problem and we can both agree on one thing:

Wawa’s a great player and it’s great to see him winning a Slam.

I actually am very, very, very happy for him when I think about him and all he sacrificed in order to win.

Plus the respect he showed Rafa was so great and genuine.

I think the game is a winner.

Now we have: Nadal, Djokovic, Murray, Wawrinka.

All at their peak, all talented and all slam winner.

= Good times ahead.

Del Potro- IF he stops faffing around can turn that into a 5.

Fed? He’s GOAT, has improved but I think it’s far to say he needs luck and a non- Nadal opponent in order to win. He can go deep, but he cannot win without luck. I think i’m not being unfair when i say that.

I think Rafa will lick his wounds, and fight with extra motivation for RG.

At RG his biggest danger really is: complacency.

We ALL know how good Rafa is there. Yet: would he ever not want it enough to win there and maybe dip 5% so that someone beats him?

I think after this heartache: he’s going to fight 110% for RG. This loss I think will help him there.


Sienna Says:

Wow How low can a multiple slam winner go?

Losing the first set and break and all of a sudden back spasm.

out of the blue he now has a serious career threathening back injuri as Always classy Nadull.

Unbelievable,.


Pitchaboy Says:

Beaten fair and beaten square. Only Nadal gets “injured” when his brains and ego are getting beaten. And his fans will continue the legend that only an injured Rafa can lose.


Brando Says:

@Michael:

yes it’s unfair. Yes it’s a touch out of order. But is it understandable?

As disagreeable as they are- I can see why reporters see it as such. Does not make it right for them to do so, but quite obviously one can see why.

At the end of the day:

Did Rafa getting a back spasm hurt Stan’s chances to win? I doubt it. It meant facing a Rafa less than 100% from there on. Hardly bad news for a Slam debutant. Either way:

It does not matter.

Stan does not care about the headlines. He won fair and square in the situation that unfolded and his friend Rafa was genuinely pleased from him aside from his own plight.

I will say no more about this just:

Congratulations to Wawa on the win.

A big well done to Rafa for carrying on, fighting, winning a set and folks think the impossible may happen because of his lion heart spirit and ultimately handling the loss in a dignified manner and winning more affection from everyone had he won instead.

Vamos Rafa!


Michael Says:

Brando,

I agree with some of your points. It is true that Wawrinka was not producing his best Tennis out there and neither was Rafa. You are also right when you say that a brute majority (including myself) never gave Wawrinka even with a whiff of chance before this match to beat Rafa, but you had premonitions of a good showing by Stan. Ofcourse, Australian Open has never been lucky for Rafa with injuries plaguing in 2010, 2011 and in 2013. The question of if Rafa had not been injured, what would have happened can be just speculation and perceptions which might be biased to an extent based on one’s affilations. Ofcourse, I do agree that Rafa’s tenacity is folklore and he has the will to fight back even from two sets down and win the match. He has done that many times before in his golden career and may be a fully fit Rafa would have even went on to win this match with all things being equal. But, I think we must just not spoil Stan’s golden moment. This man has just won a major at 28 and is looking upbeat. Why we need to spoil that mood ? Let us give him all the credit and not conduct a postmortem and thereby belittle his victory.


Brando Says:

@Sienna:

Where were you in the last 11 months when Rafa was winning?

And why have you returned all of a sudden at this moment?

And classy?

How on earth can you judge Rafa for his conduct in this match when YOUR OWN conduct on this site is more than lacking towards him.

EVERYONE here is aware of your hate for him. No one cares for it. But please:

Show some self respect and not give a view on what class is in conduct when you clearly need to take a good luck at your own?

And one more thing:

Hate on Rafa when he’s winning not when he’s down and out.

That makes YOU look pathetic. Not Rafa.


Michael Says:

Great post Brando @ 7.58


Brando Says:

@Michael:

I fully agree. I have said my bit regarding the match. Acceptance is a must about the result and moving on is a certainty.

Wawa is a worthy slam winner for sure.

On a side note: Based on this result- I think it’s absolute folly how all of a sudden some here are not only writing Rafa off but equally calling his conduct shameful.

I think you would that not only is it ridiculous to do so but quite equally pathetic to do so.

In the space of a injury affected one match all of a sudden he’s finished. Sure. The same experts who gave Wawa 0 chance of winning today and already had Rafa on 14 slams.


Brando Says:

@Michael:

Thanks. I enjoy exchanging thoughts with an intelligent and reasonable individual, regardless of whom he sports. You clearly are that type.

You don’t root for Rafa, but your regard to him and his fans in such a time when others fancy taking a dig is quite brilliant and much appreciated.

Thank you for it, and as a Rafa fan it makes it easier to move on and accept a tough defeat.

Cheers!


Daniel Says:

Now this quetison came to my mind: When did Nadal came from 2-0 down to win a matcn?! I remember sveral ti es comung from 2-1 down but 2-0 i don’t recall immediatelly.


Pitchaboy Says:

Rafa cannot be written off as long as his challenge on clay is a “weak bunch”. But his injuries and miraculous comebacks defy medicine and common sense and yes, I am a physician.


logan Says:

Nadal fans would say this:
First set: Nadal lost because of blisters on his hand.
Second set: Nadal lost because of back pains.
Third set: He fought hard and played with his back pains but he won. Great!!
Fourth set: He has back pains again so he lost.
Conclusion: Stan is a lucky winner because of Nadal’s injuries.
Truth: Nadal was overpowered and hammered by Stan.


Daniel Says:

I remember Youznhy in Wimby 2006 if I am not mistalen but he injured himself during that macth as well


Tennis X guy Says:

@Daniel The last time that happened was 7 years ago against Youzhny at Wimbledon.


Lou_tennisfan Says:

A very well deserved victory for Stan the Man today, he has become the first player to defeat both Nole and Nadal in a GS…who would have thought at the start of the tournament that Stan will with the Aus Open champion in the end.

An amazing and inspiring win for every tennis player and everyone in this world, It just showed that failures should never deter us. Stan Wawarinka conquered his own fears and demons to win when just 12 months back, he had cried his heart out for losing an epic match against Novak Djokovic. Hats off to his iron will:)

Try Again,Fail again. Fail better – Stan Wawarinka , The New Iron Man in Tennis http://tinyurl.com/ldzzhvm


gonzalowski Says:

as i have just heard today three times
in Wimbledon 2006 against don’t know who, Wimbledon 2007 against Youzhny.
And Seppi in Italia, in Davis cup


Brando Says:

@Daniel:

COmmentator said so that he’s done it 3 times at least. Either way: who knows whether he’d be 2-0 down? Maybe he could have broken back on a misfiring Wawa service game and made it 1-1?

Either way: It’s pointless to think about and it’s done now.

I wonder how much of a challenge Wawrinka will be going forward?

All of a sudden:

- World no.3
- A GS slam winner
- Beat Rafa at a slam? Check
- Beat Nole at a Slam? Check
- Beat Muzza at a Slam? Check
- Powerful server, brilliant FH, and a awe inspiring BH.
- Mentally strong? He beat Novak in a 5 setter has won from 0-2 down in 6 slam matches. Check.
- He’s more consistent than ever.
- At 28: career peak with professional and personal life in order.

BRANDO’S PREDICTION:

I said Wawa will finish top 5 in the year end 2014 ranking. I got laughed at.

I said he was a REAL CHALLENGE to Rafa pre match. I got laughed at.

Now i’ll say post match:

1. Wawrinka will NOT be a One Slam wonder.

2. He’s a GENUINE top 4 Slam challenger at ALL Slams except Wimby.

3. And he’ll be a threat V ALL the top players.

Right now FO title challengers are:

1. Nadal
2. Djokovic
3. Wawrinka

Wawa loves Clay, RG QF, Rome and Madrid RU. He’ll be a threat there.

This result has completely changed the picture going forward and to be honest:

I am glad Rafa at least has won 13 GS Slams, and reached 3 finals each at all the Slams.


Tennis X guy Says:

2006 Wimbledon-Against an American qualifier called Robert Kendrick,2007 Wimbledon-Against Mikhail Youzhny.


Daniel Says:

What about Isner in RG 11′or 12′? I remember he was the first to extend Nadal to five but don’t rembember if he was 2-0 or 2-1 up


Michael Says:

Brando,

Writing off Rafa after this match. Well, one must be just insane to say that after seeing the tremendous come back he made in 2013 after a serious injury. I admit that it is bad fate which played with Rafa and he developed this back spasm. Although I thought when he took that medical time out and went out of the court, he could have put in a word to Wawarinka who was complaining about it to the Umpire. Rafa definitely is to stay here and in all probability win more majors. His only challenge is his physical problems which is taking a heavy toll on him. I am not quite sure how he will play when he reaches the 30s ? But he is just 27 and still three years of good Tennis left in him and who knows how much more he is going to win ? By the way thanks to you too and it is nice exchanging views with you. Although you root for Rafa, you are never consumed by the moment or emotions and always has clarity in whatever you put as your thoughts.


Brando Says:

One more BRANDO’S PREDICTION:

IF the talented but uber annoying in his progress DEL POTRO sort’s his game out. We will see 5 GS winners, at their peak being contenders for Slam for the first time ever in history:

Rafael Nadal- 13 time slam winner
Novak Djokovic- 6 time slam winner
Andy Murray- 2 time slam winner
Stan Wawrinka- slam winner and most improved player on tour
Del Potro- a slam winner and big stage player.

This COULD be the greatest time ever going forward.


Tennis X guy Says:

Isner was 2-1 up.Nadal was also 1-2 down in the 2010 Wimbledon against Philipp Petzschner and Robin Haase.


Michael Says:

What Wawarinka has just demonstrated is that even with one handed back hand, you can take up the challenge to Rafa. I am not sure why Roger is struggling when Wawrinka is able to outhit Rafa from the back of the court ?


Daniel Says:

Rankings come tomorro:
1-Nadal
2-Djokovic
3-Wawrinka
4-DelPotro
5-Ferrer
6-Murray
7-Berdych
8-Federer

This gives us potential good QF matches going in IW and miami. Don’t know if all of them will be playing Dubai, but most will. That stranghold of Fab four we saw in 2012 is gone for good. Seems now top 8 willtend to level more. It will all depend on Nadal clay performance. If he will keep his trend of losing only 1 macth or less. And if he ses more who willget the spoils.

Oh, and Wawa is now 11-0 on the season with 2 titles undefeated, Grand Slam winner, the man to beat next tourney he plays


Michael Says:

Brando,

I am still not sure whether Del Potro and Wawarinka are still in the same league and class as Rafa, Novak and Andy. But still, it is good that Tennis is becoming more competitive with the addition of one more Grand slam champion. This is good augury for the Sport and its development at the global level.


TGIT Says:

Decided not to watch and miracles still happen! Holy Sh*t, Stan wins!!!

Suddenly 17 does seem like a big deal. Not as easy as we all think.

Phew, best Grand Slam in a few years. Exciting since day one. 2014 will be fun to watch!


Daniel Says:

Michael,

To answer your question. Power of the shots. Did you see some BH crossc court Wawa was unleashing?! Nadal could get some back with his defense cross loopy FH, but usually Wawa killed the next shot with a winner. His return seemed better and Nadal was not going to his BH on serve all the time. He was going for the T a lot. Agaisn’t Fed Nadal plays different seems he only need discilpline in that macth up, he doesn’t have to play his new HC game as we saw last year even toug Fed took him to tiebreak. Is a different brand of tennis. Nadal slows the points nad open court. And serves 98% to Fed’s BH as Fed does nothing with it a long the years.


Michael Says:

Daniel,

More than everything it is the mental block he has against Rafa which prevents him from playing his best Tennis.


Brando Says:

@Michael:

Thanks.

Re Fed BH:

Perspective is king here. Even after today, Wawa is only 1/13 v Rafa, and has only won 3/27 sets v Rafa. So based on those facts:

Fed is still a better challenge to Rafa than Wawa based on the cold, hard numbers. That said:

Wawa’s BH is quite obviously better than Fed’s. Why? Since he has way more power, confidence and aggression on that wing. Put simply:

For one it’s a weaker wing, the other a major strength.

Even then though: the h2h say’s Rafa dominates him so despite the loss today, I still do not think it’s a change enough to suggest single handed BH’s are a major minus v Rafa.

Rafa can lose to such players- that we know. But single BH’s really are not the best tactic v Rafa at all. Stat’s show that.

- The competition:

Yes I agree. Rafa, Novak and Muzza are a cut above the other 2 and especially Del Potro. But confidence is king:

Right now Wawa is no.3 in the world, GS winner and 12- 0 for the year.

Do you honestly think he fears any player right now?

Not a chance IMO.

Who knows- he could have had a mental switch and be Wawa 2.0 ala Nole in 2011.

No one saw him winning this: so why not I say?


Tennis X guy Says:

It would have been so much more interesting had Robin Soderling been on the tour now :(


Pitchaboy Says:

Fed never adjusted his game for Rafa and has paid the price. Stan has become significantly sturdier and more powerful under Magnus, hence neutralizing the moonballs


Polo Says:

Federer must be so used to his game being good enough to beat everyone. His opponents had to adjust to him and not the other way around. It is different with Nadal which makes it very difficult for Roger to play him.


pitchaboy Says:

Fed knew after being beaten in Miami on a hard court by 17 year old Nadal that there is a matchup problem on his backhand. A smart guy would have made adjustments, which he did not. This has cost him the head to head, likely 2 to 4 slams and his place as GOAT, thereof. Stanimal killed Nadal by pushing him to his forehand corner and then slamming backhand down the line winners.


pitchaboy Says:

Watch the 9th game of the first set when Stan was serving for the set. The way Rafa stretches to return, runs and hits his forehands, you know there was no major problem with his back. It only got “injured” after he blew those break points to get back on serve in that set.


courbon Says:

Well, congratulations to Stan and commiserations to all Rafa fans.
@ Brando:I have to say the whole match was anti-climax…Yes, great first set but after…I don’t like seeing injured player trying to fight.It just does not feel right.Quality of tennis was average, couple of great rallies but average match. Anyway, usually SF and QF matches are better, so nothing new.( when was last time great Grand Slam final?)
Regarding Stans future?Is this his 2011? Personally I don’t think so but you never know.I just don’t think he is fast enough and when his serve is not working,like in the first set, he would be punished.But who knows…It just nadal did not play well today and then injury…
Nadal was very classy in his speech and you have to be hater not to feel for him.
Funny, just yesterday Eric W was trying to explain me that Nadal winning Calendar slam is realistic prediction.It just shows you how fragile is tennis prediction game…
Well, lets see how will rest of the year unfold-unpredictable times ahead.


tfouto Says:

Wawrinka has a more BH power then Federer. But also he can beat the BH higher then Federer. The grip is different. He handle better the topspin of Nadal.


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Fed never adjusted his game for Rafa and has paid the price

Pitchaboy, It’s a myth that Roger can adjust. He does not have a game to adjust. It’s as simple as that. It’s wrong to blame Roger for something he cannot do.


madmax Says:

Well, this is an incredible result.

Brando :(

The only thing I am pleased about is:

a) Stan wins his first GS – for any player – what a moment in their lives.

b) Slice tennis was silenced. That was music to my ears. It is a cause for much celebration.

Slice Tennis Says:
During the first week the talk was all about how fast the court and how Rafa will be struggling on it. This was touted as the fastest conditions for a grandslam in the last decade.
Now the haters are silent about the court. I will not be surprised if they come out and say that the courts were slowed down since Rafa is winning.
LOL.

January 26th, 2014 at 3:20 am

c) I am so pleased that Rafa cried through the pure emotion of losing. There is no shame in that. Roger has done that many times as we know, most notably here. Rafa is human. A man with emotion. Love it.

Brando, it is a shock to me., as I am sure to everyone, who ever would have thought?

I don’t like injury excuses though Brando. It isn’t fair to raise that. I am going to watch the match now and see for myself what happened. If something happened during the match, then fair enough, this would be a valid reason, but to win the third set, whilst injured? How can that be?

We are not haters. Why is it that to be a fed fan, you have to hate nadal. I don’t. It’s slice tennis who is the bitter man,

Just bitter as the cud, vile, even with their comments. Slice tennis. You must be feeling very depressed right now and I can understand your pain. Been through it many times with Roger. But it is about time you stopped throwing your distorted comments on the masses. Time for a taste of your own medicine.


tfouto Says:

I am watching the game again and first game of the second set when Wawrinka breaks Nadal to love, it’s really a tennis game of the next century.


Giles Says:

madmax. He tweaked his back in the warm up. He said he felt something and it progressively got worse. I guess by the third set the painkillers set in but obviously not enough to quell the discomfort. It just wasn’t to be for Rafa. This is his most jinxed slam and I will leave it at that. Wawa done good. Happy for him but gutted for Rafa. That’s life I guess.


Ajet Says:

MEN DO CRY WHEN EMOTIONALLY HURT, that simply does not make them crybaby except in the eyes/minds of kiddos, lol
and btw the last time i checked fed and rafa are men, so go figure!!!


Hippy Chic Says:

Ajet too right,i might seem mad(who knew), but as a woman i think theres something quite sexy about seeing a man cry,and by the way lovely to see you posting again,its been waaaay toooo loooong :))..


Ajet Says:

in case Giles is man, he can cry too if he’s feeling emotionally hurt right now, and i promise i won’t call him crybaby! but if Giles is woman, then she also can cry without being called a crybaby by me, and THAT MAKES SENSE!!!


Ajet Says:

LOL hippy chic ;)


Hippy Chic Says:

My husband and my late father cried buckets when our dog died,it shows you have feelings IMO.


Hippy Chic Says:

I cried when Stan won,i cried when Rafa lost,i cried my eyes out been a Brit when Andy won Wimbledon last summer.


Hippy Chic Says:

^So i guess im the biggest cry baby around^.


Ajet Says:

believe me hippy chic(alison), missed you so much! you and brando are some of my absolutely loveliest friends! love you both and salute your rafa, who is as great a player as can ever be in tennis!!! we all agree fed and rafa rock!!!


Ajet Says:

i love calling you alison my dear, hope you ok if i do that


Hippy Chic Says:

Ajet most people still do call me Alison anyway,and i dont mind at all :))..


madmax Says:

Ajet Says:
MEN DO CRY WHEN EMOTIONALLY HURT, that simply does not make them crybaby except in the eyes/minds of kiddos, lol
and btw the last time i checked fed and rafa are men, so go figure!!!

January 26th, 2014 at 1:07 pm

I agree Ajet.. Thre is nothing wrong with a bit of emotion.

Giles, I saw the match, it seems that rafa tweaked his back during the match, though this was a surprise to me. No mention of any injury beforehand so I will read his conference and see what else to say.

Thing is , anything can happen during a match. I thought the crowd were unfair though. It is just that Rafa has had many MTOs so you can understand why they felt that way. Doesn’t make it right now. I agree.

The crowd can be peasants and so underhand.


Giles Says:

madmax. He tweaked his back in the warm-up.


Giles Says:

I would rather Rafa lost playing a bad match rather than playing injured and losing.


Hippy Chic Says:

Sienna 7.56am agree with Brando where were you for the last year?i believe you predicted err what was it Rafa would go into a steep decline in 2013,couldnt cope with the elite anymore,would fall out of the top 10,would lose to Ryan Harrison in the 1st round at the USO,Novak would be the one gaining ground on Rafa in GS count etc etc??oh yeah thats right you dissapeared in a puff of smoke,were you by any chance kept busy scraping all egg off your face when your predictions went woefully wrong?


Pitchaboy Says:

Therefore, according to this genius NK, a man who won 17 slams does not have a game to adjust. The truth is he never even tried as he felt Nadal is mostly a clay court force. Magnus has shown how to blast Rafa off the court and make him cry.


Ajet Says:

hi madmax:
how’re you? :)) you’re such a nice loyal fedfan :) hope all is well with you in your personal life :)

although i gotta say i hate fed losing to rafa in slams repeatedly, hope he can finally beat rafa soon in slams before he hangs up his shoes, can’t wait for fed to turn the tables on rafa(at least hoping so, and believe too that nothing is impossible for fed).


Ajet Says:

alison

you CANNOT BE SERIOUS about sienna anyway, lol. she’s come today only when nadal lost. sienna may say what she wants, trying to fool us, but believe me, she is mortally scared of nadal! thats why she can’t stand him and mocks him always! she deep down knows that nadal can overtake fed(everybody else also knows includin laver/pete/best of them all roger himself!)! thats why her tirade, lol


Ajet Says:

alison, who says you’re crybaby, lol ;p you’re a doll!!! :)))

BRANDO:
fabulous post at 8.02 pm to put sienna in her place! what a pathetic fed fan she’s! giving bad name to the fedfan community.


Ajet Says:

one more thing: nadal may or may not overtake fed in slam count, but its official that nadal is also a GOAT candidate, no less than fed!


Ajet Says:

BTW must make it ABSOLUTELY CLEAR that i was rooting for stan for obvious reasons best known to me! GLAD STAN WON!!! :D :D :D

HAPPYYYYYY!!!!!! :))))))

CONGRATS WAWRINKA, AO CHAMPION!!! :)))

you right now are truly the better swiss! what next!!!

and yeah best of luck for rest of the year too wawa! :D


Okiegal Says:

Rafa , imo didn’t cry because he was losing, got upset because he knew he couldn’t play a final like the BOOING fans expect to see. That’s my take, for what it’s worth.


Hippy Chic Says:

Ajet thanks for all of the above,about Sienna i dont generally bother wasting my time or nervous energy with her posts,however i just saw red and ended up losing my cool,your right not a real fan just a fanatic/hero worshipper,im delighted with Rafas career achievements even if it all ended tomorrow,i dont think he has much more to prove anyway,i never piss on one players records to make me feel better about my favorites,as far as im concerned they are both amazing players anyway,as for the crying i cry when im sad and when im happy,probably not a cry baby but definetly a big softie though,thanks for calling me a doll i like that summary of me :))..


Pitchaboy Says:

Soderling beats Nadal FO : coach, Magnus
Stanimal beats Nadal AO: Coach, Magnus

Roger hired the wrong coach


Hippy Chic Says:

Soderling beats Rafa at the FO 2009,Rafa beats Soderling in the FO final 2010,Stan beats Rafa at the AO final 2014,it will be interesting to see what happens the next time Rafa and Stan do face off?


Pitchaboy Says:

Humbled Rafa by the other Swiss Cheese


Brando Says:

@Courbon, Ajet and Madmax:

Thanks you for your kind words for Rafa and his fans. It’s much appreciated and certainly kind when some have decided to do the alternative:

Just mock Rafa’s poor luck. That less about Rafa but more about them IMO. And the less said about them: the better.

- Courbon re Wawrinka:

I agree with your thoughts. It’s just speculation on my half really. No one saw Novak in 2011 occurring. Likewise: who saw Wawa being world no.3, GS winner, beating Rafa and Novak in the same slam event and being 12-0 for the year.

No one.

I don’t think he’s as talented as the others and there are weaknesses there that are clear but he shares the most important ingredient with Novak in 2011 and ANY player who dominates a year:

Sky high confidence.

Right now I ask myself:

Why should Stan fear facing or think he shall lose v Rafa or Novak the next time he faces them? Even Muzza?

There is NO REASON to. The guy beat Rafa (I have said enough about this loss so I won’t add more to it). That’s big for him regardless of how it went down (I agree with you- a Novak fan- saying it was average match overall, Rafa was poor letting Stan get away with a very poor serve in Set 1 and then the bummer injury).

He still won. Fair play to him.

More impressive- and the win that makes him a worthy AO Champ- is him beating AO King Nole in a 5th set. That was seriously impressive and that alone justifies his win here.

He even beat Muzza at USO 13′ quite comprehensively.

So all in all: he’s defeated the big players in the big match, and is at a career peak. For me that makes him a threat for sure now. His talent was always there but now the results are there to and surely he must be feeling the sky is the limit.

I agree with you: this season is unpredictable and the ONLY definite thing post AO:

Don’t count your egg’s yet until the Chicken has laid them!

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