Federer Rips Raonic, Faces Ferrer In Cincinnati Final; Who’s The Pick? Serena-Ivanovic Also
by Sean Randall | August 17th, 2014, 1:17 am
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While the women stole the show with two drama-filled matches, men’s semifinal day at Cincinnati went quietly by the book.

David Ferrer had no trouble whatsoever with surprise semifinalist Julien Benneteau 6-3, 6-2. The Frenchman who stunned Stan Wawrinka looked out of energy and that’s never a good thing especially against a hyper-fit guy like Ferrer.

The victory moves Ferrer into his first final in Cincinnati and his 7th overall in Masters play.

“Of course I am in a good moment,” said Ferrer who won the Paris Masters in 2012. “I am in my first final this year in a Masters 1000, so I’m happy for that. (I take it) step by step and focus for tomorrow.”

And in the final he’ll meet his longtime nemesis Roger Federer. Due to a lengthy women’s semi, the Swiss started his match after 10pm against Milos Raonic, but fortunately finished off the Canadian quickly and without much effort 6-2, 6-3 to remain undefeated at 6-0 against the World No. 7.

Federer broke Raonic immediately and that was that. Milos got into the match in the second but he just has no answer to Federer’s serve. And when Roger hits it low against the taller Raonic, it often pays off.

“I’m playing much better [than last year. I can move freely again,” Federer told ESPN on the court. “I’m happy the results show. It’s more fun playing this way. Now I am playing the right away.

“It’s great for the confidence to switch from clay to grass to hard courts and keep on playing well. I’ve had a very complete season so far,” added Federer. “This is my eighth final of the season. I hope I can win another final here.”

Of course Ferrer is a totally different match than Milos. But a matchup he’s more than comfortable with. Federer’s dominated Ferrer winning all 15 of their matches, including one last week in Canada where David actually won one of his four career sets against Roger.

And really if Roger plays like he’s been playing – serving well, decent from the net (like tonight), he should get through Ferrer. Roger’s never lost in the Cincinnati final in five prior appearances so that’s a huge edge.

On the other side of the net, I have to ask, who’s Ferrer beaten this week? Remind me. Tommy Robredo? Benneteau? Ferrer knows he’ll probably never have a draw like that again to a final this big. But hey, he’s in the final and he’ll give it a shot, I just don’t think it’ll be enough. Federer absolutely needs this win.
The pick: Federer in two

I felt going into today the main attraction would be the women’s semifinals with four of the biggest. most marketable stars in action. And it didn’t disappoint.

Former No. 1 Caroline Wozniacki pushed her good friend Serena Williams once again but for the second straight week she just didn’t have enough in the end losing 2-6, 6-2, 6-4 in a bizarre match that featured 15 breaks of serve!

“I got off to a little bit of a slow start, but I was definitely in it,” Williams said after the match. “I was just physically grinding and trying to get in there and really just trying to grind out everything.

“She’s a really good returner and she was getting everything back, and making some good shots. It wasn’t just on the return, she was able to play some really good points after the return too. She’s playing great tennis, even better than what she’s been playing in the last couple years, taking that defense and adding a lot of offense to it and going for her shots. She does both really well.”

Things got even weirder in the evening when former French Open champions Ana Ivanovic and Maria Sharapova met. Ivanovic stormed out to a 6-2, 4-0 lead before Maria did what Maria does best: comeback.

Sharapova won five of the next six games to take the second set. Then after a strange mid-game blood pressure timeout for Ivanovic early in the third (for choking, what else?), the matched seemed destined for another Sharapova win.

But Ivanovic somehow fought back, fended off two matchpoints late and took the semifinal 6-2, 5-7, 7-5 in one of the crazier matches you will ever see.

“I really got a little tight,” Ivanovic admitted on her second set collapse. “I wasn’t moving my feet forward enough and played a little passive. But she’s a champion and was fighting so well.

“I just had to regroup in the third set, and I’m so glad I could win this match tonight.”

So it’s Serena and Ana in the women’s final and Ivanovic beat her at the Australian Open this year. So don’t be quick to dismiss the Serb.

“For me, the most important thing is recovery for tomorrow and trying to be fresh,” Ivanovic said. “It’s going to be a great match, I think. We played three times this year already.

“I think it’s going to be a great test for me as well to play against Serena. She’s the No.1 player in the world and she’s a great champion, so I think it’s going to be a good match. I hope it goes well.”

Ana’s playing well, but after such an emotional win how will she be able to recover in time for Serena. I don’t see it so I like Serena here.

ESPN2 has complete coverage of both finals starting at 2pm with the women. What a day of tennis.


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134 Comments for Federer Rips Raonic, Faces Ferrer In Cincinnati Final; Who’s The Pick? Serena-Ivanovic Also

Daniel Says:

Who would have thought after 7 Masters played into the season Fed would have the most finals played at 4 (Djoko and Nadal played 3)? The difference is Djoko won all 3 he played and Nadal won 1 and lost 2. Fed already lost 3 finals but has a great chance for a first title. Hope he gets it!


Gregoire Gentil Says:

Sean is writing more words on women than men in his picks and pans! 443 words vs. 519 words!!! That’s a very first. Congrats Sean! And proof that women tennis can be better than men tennis… sometimes. Sean, you are just missing the woman pick in bold :-)


Margot Says:

Me oh my! Congrats to Fed and Ferrer. Could almost be a veteran’s final….;)
Good to see Ana recapturing some form too.


Michael Says:

Well this was quite expected. It would be earth shattering only if Sean had picked Ferrer for a change to lift the title reasoning it out on the law of averages which should give Ferrer a leg up considering that he has been unsuccessful against Roger the last 15 times they played. Ofcourse, Roger is the overwhelming favourite to beat Ferrer considering their lop sided H2H as also the fact that the one dimensional play of Ferrer suits him. Ferrer definitely cannot hurt him with his serve or incisive shots. He is a player who will always keep the ball in play and Roger is quite comfortable against such kind of players to be more aggressive and take his chances. So, it should be cake walk for Roger and the only cloud of uncertainity is how Roger would approach this match considering that he has lost the four finals he has played recently ? It is evident that Roger would do everything to win this one and he is ofcourse playing near his best. If Ferrer has to beat Roger, then he must find the later in his worst day in Office which is only a very remote possibility.


madmax Says:

Given that Federer wrapped up the Milos match earlier than anticipated, after the longest women’s matches back to back, ever, he has more chance of recovery and feeling fresh.

I would never count out Ferrer though. He is a hound who just never gives up and runs for everything.

Federer should win. On paper, we know that.

He has reached another final! Way to go Fed! Now, WIN IT!


Purcell Says:

You tell him Mad Max!


FedExpress Says:

Seriously, if he cant win tonight i dont how he will win finals ever

should have won brisbane, could have won IW, should have MC, could have won WIM

the only final which he deserved to lose was against tsonga

soderling did it on the big stage to get his first win over fed, robredo did the same


Hippy Chic Says:

Congrats Federer and fans on making the final,if he wins the final(which in all honesty i cant see Ferrer beating him),with Nole,Stan,Andy not at their best,and doubts about Rafas participation,then he will probably go into the USO as the favorite….


Giles Says:

HC. Here you are congratulating fed and fans for reaching the final and havn’t extended the same good wishes to Ferrer and fans. Why is that? Some sort of bias?


Hippy Chic Says:

Fantastic to see Anna getting the win against Sharapova,and refreshing to see talent getting the better of attrition for a change,although once Serena makes a final you cant see past her for the title,more often than not….


Gordon Says:

A new wrinkle in the US Open Series Bonus.

Now this is bizarre and I know also hard to believe, but the points awarded for playing in at least 3 of the 4 pre-US Open hard court tournaments are DOUBLE those of players who only play 2 or less tournaments.

What this means is that Milos Raonic, for playing Washington (W), Toronto (SF) and Cincinnati (SF) gets all his points doubled and looks to be a lock on winning the series. Here are the point totals as of right now (going into the final of Cincinnati):

Raonic – 280
Federer – 140
Tsonga – 100
Ferrer – 95

You might think Federer with the possibility of a Masters 1000 win to go with his Toronto runner-up points would be the winner but no – because Fed is only playing 2 of the 4 tournaments he cannot catch Milos.

Federer will only get an extra 25 points should be win Cincy, and since none of Fed, Tsonga or Ferrer are playing Winston-Salem next week they cannot catch Raonic.

However, Federer is not guaranteed 2nd place either, for Isner could pass him in points should he win Winston-Salem where he is seeded first.

Bizarre.


Polo Says:

Just because Sean used more words about the women than he did about the men, does not make women’s tennis better than the men’s. They just happened to be bizarre. They were full of chokes and weirdness. I could not stand the Ana-Maria match and did not watch the third set. I only watched the first set of the Caroline-Serena match because I knew that in the end, Serena will win.


Nirmal Kumar Says:

This is one surface where I have more confidence in Roger winning the title. Not that he is bad in others, but this surface suits his tennis much more than any other surface in the masters.

Even in his worst year, he gave a very tough fight against Rafa last year. Eventhough he has a ridiculous schedule and have to turnaround with his opponent having unfair advantage, this is one final most likely roger would not lose.

For the very first time, I say his aggressive body language while packing his racquets after the match against Raonic. Maybe he is too determined this time compared to Toronto, but i have never seen Roger being so serious after winning a semis.


Okiegal Says:

We know for sure Roger will do more running today. He better do it two. David will work on his legs hoping that getting him tired will work in his favor. That is about the only way I can see David winning. Roger is in top form…….I think he will win. His net play has been great. Hopefully we will see a good entertaining 4 hr match…..and not one that last a little over an hour!

C’mon David give it your best shot and grind baby grind!!


Alexandra Says:

Raonic is not as good as people think. So his loss wasn’t exactly a surprise. It would be a major upset if Ferrer won the final. He has never beaten Fed, he doesn’t have the belief. Plus, Cincy is a very good place for Fed. Always played rather well there. But even if Fed wins the title, I don’t see him as the US Open favourite. I would not count him out, but I also don’t see him winning there.
Good season for Ana, I think. Serena is of course the favourite.


skeezer Says:

Never thought I’d see Fed challenging for a title again @33. Yep, oh me of little faith. His movement does looks the best it has been in years. Bring it home Maestro!


Tennis Fan Says:

Raonic is capable of much higher level play than was demonstrated last night. The book on Raonic is that he is just a serve. When he finally decided he was losing the match last night he began to relax a little, got more aggressive and started letting some ground strokes fly. He had Fed at deuce and break points throughout the second set as a result. One only had to watch Raonic push Djokovic all over the court with powerful ground strokes in Atlanta to realize that they didn’t see the real Raonic last night in Cincy. The psychology against players like Federer is to play somewhat defensively. This is the way Raonic used to play in 2013, until his new team got his game turned around. I watched Raonic take Federer to 3 close sets and have match points against him back in 2011,(when Federer was playing well) because he was still young and naive and had nothing to lose. He has to hit aggressive ground strokes which he has in his arsenal, but demonstrated little of last night to beat one of the top 3. I think he will have a break through soon because I think he is a very determined soul and has a team that will figure it out.


Tennis Fan Says:

Gordon: Although Raonic may have “a lock” on the US open series Emirates bonus, the idea of trying to get players to play in at least 3 tournament is to try to get one of the big names out to the 250 and 500 events. There isn’t a whole lot of money automatically involved anyway because the bonus is based solely upon the participating players US Open Slam result.
There doesn’t still seem to be much incentive because Federer, Djokovic and Nadal were unlikely to play in the smaller tournaments because 1. They dont’ really need the cash and 2. They care more about the prestige of the slam and aren’t going to overplay ahead of the big tournament.


Giles Says:

Good luck Daveed. There’s a first time for everything.


Gordon Says:

Tennis Fan,

You are right. I was just pointing out that unlike last year, where Rafa and Serena made some serious coin by winning the series, now Raonic has a shot.

He has made the quarters in 10 of the 12 tournaments he played this year. Doing so again at the USO gets him SF money; reaching the semis gets him RU money. Just noting.


Tennis Fan Says:

Alexandra: Although you may feel you are correct is saying Ferrer has little chance against Federer, I can tell you that the match in Toronto between the two could have gone Ferrer’s way. Federer had played a late match the night before and looked out of sorts in the daytime against Tsonga. If he plays the same way today against an in-form Ferrer he is going to lose for the first time against him. So it really depends on whether the real Federer will show up after a ridiculously late scheduling for his match last night.


Daniel Says:

Federer also is on a 4 final in a row: Halle (W), Wimbledon (Rup), Toronto (Rup) and now Cincy (??).

Dependomg on hos draw in US Open and if Nadal will play or not (potentially placing Fed as second seed) or if Djoko or Nadal lose early in his semi darw I can see he returning to the final once again.

As HC pointed out by looking at players last results who would be in the final? Djoko kind of lost focus, Murray hasn’t go beyond semis since RG (which is bizarre considering we went to grass and fast HC), Nadal hasn’t play on HC in a while and still is a question mark. The other, can’t see Raonic, Dimitrov, Ferrer, Berdych beating Fed in US Open.

This US HC promisses a lot but so far only Federer is delivering and Raonic had decent results, witht title, quarters and semis.

Of course it all can change if both Nadal and Djoko come out to play in US Open but I can’t see now, with the way Federer is playing, him losimg to anyo e but Nadal and Djoko.


Gordon Says:

Much in the same way Rafa had a poor (by his standards) lead up to Roland Garros but still won his 9th title at the Slam event, we should not discount Djokovic just because he failed to do well in the hard courts leading up to the US Open.

No, even if (when?) he whips Ferrer later today Federer at 33 should not be THE favourite to win the US Open, but he will no longer be a surprise should he do so. For Federer to win this as his 18th slam he needs the following to be in place -

1) A good draw. This means he is seeded #2 or winds up in Rafa’s half of the draw should Nadal be healthy enough to play.

2) A minimum of 5-set matches.

3) At least 1 upset in his quarter to enable the shorter matches described in 2 above.

4) An off form Djokovic and/or Nadal, should he play them. Djokovic has been exhibiting a B-game lately so it’s not a stretch and a famous stat about Nadal is that he has never successfully defended a non-clay title in his life. Not having any warm up to the USO may prove too tough for Nadal.

5) Good, hot weather with no delays. Forcing Fed to play evening and then following day 5-set matches would not be goood for him.

So can he win it? Yeah, I’d say the way he is playing he can knock off anyone under equal conditions except Nadal and Djokovic. Will he? That’s why they play the tournament.

That he is seeded no less than 3rd at age 33 is astounding.


Gordon Says:

Daniel – looks like you and I agree on Fed’s chances in New York. I believe however he will come out guns blazing and will destroy Ferrer.

If he does I think we have to drop the talk of the “Big 4″ and return to the “Big 3″ of Nole, Rafa and Fed.

If Ferrer wins perhaps it is he and not Murray who belongs as the fourth member of the “Big 4.”


Margot Says:

Not a fan of Raonic but I think it is inevitable that he will win a slam.
His star is rising just at the right time.
@Gordon
Hold on a mo! Well…OK then, have written off 2014 for Andy, alas, but can’t believe he’ll be out of the picture in 2015.
Nobody should underestimate the physical and psychological consequences of back surgery. And whatever he says, I don’t think he’s match fit yet. At least at the Open he’ll get a day in between matches to rest/recover.


Gordon Says:

In about 20 minutes the Wimbledon finals rematch of the Bryan brothers vs Pospisil and Sock (Pospisock) takes place.

The Bryans are stuck on 99 events won. A couple of months ago they were hoping Roland Garros would be their 100th.

They were the heavy favourites to knock off Sock and Pospicil, who were teaming up for the first time at Wimbledon.

Now Pospisock is 14-0 and in their third consecutive final. Both guys have killer serves, soft hands at the net and have meshed to form a team that after today will be 5th or 6th in team rankings, depending on if they win.

I wonder how heavy the oddsmakers are making the Bryans the favourites today?


madmax Says:

2) A minimum of 5-set matches.

Gordon,

Was this a mistake?

Regarding Fed, it would be better if he tied up his matches in 3 straight sets. Wimby final, and getting to a fifth set was a phenomenal achievement, but I think Fed should treat the slams now, psychologically, as masters series. That way, he can say to himself “Gotta try and wrap this up in 3 sets, otherwise it is going to be much harder for him to play, I feel. If he plays 7, 5 setters before he reaches a final – he will be toast.

Who could handle that? Not even the younger guys, I feel.

No. Federer needs to play as aggressively as he has been, and work on his first serve percentage and converting those bloody break points. It’s those break points that have caused me to lose my finger nails and look away because it is those missed opportunities for him, that could have resulted in shorter matches and an increase in confidence at crucial moments.

I don’t think anyone can write off Andy Murray at the USOpen. Like I said, he will have used both tournaments to get match fit and for match practice. He played some exquisite shots yesterday against Roger, but some of his forehands were a little bit wild. Like he had no game plan for where he wanted the balls to go. Clearly he has some work to do, but I don’t think he is that far away.

Novak will be the favourite to win the USOpen. Not Federer.


madmax Says:

Also, I think anyone writes off Murray at their peril, and also Rafa, – would not surprise me in the slightest if either one of these two won the tournament.

It’s interesting too to see what former champions have said about Murray’s game – I hadn’t seen this before, but Mcenroe, Connors and Fleming, all had something to say about Murray’s body language – I think they do have a point.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/tennis/28134500

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/tennis/28133582

Having those extra days rest in between play is going to help at a Slam. I just wish that Prime Time TV didn’t take the priority to the scheduling of the matches. It should be fair and spread out with both the night and day matches. We know that this is not always the case.

The player’s council should have something to say about this.


jane Says:

“One only had to watch Raonic push Djokovic all over the court with powerful ground strokes in Atlanta ”

what? nole never played atlanta. not sure what you mean here.


Giles Says:

Now that the old one has turned 33 I think it is only fair that the ITF make a ruling that he should play best of 3 in all future Slams. The man can’t win back to back 5 setters and I think this ruling should be put in place forthwith, i.e. in time for USO.
What d’ya say fedfans?


Polo Says:

I think I’ll just wait until after the men’s finals at the US Open to find out who’s the winner. I have read enough of these predictions/analysis and they seem to sound the same every time.


jane Says:

popsicle and sock not doing so well today. have lost first set and could take their very first loss as a duo. but i am sure they’d rather have the wimbledon title than this one. :)


Margot Says:

@jane
I love Poppit and Sockit too. :)


jane Says:

they’re so exuberant together margot; makes it fun to watch. too bad they lost but i hope they play the us open.


jane Says:

“it’s either an error or a winner from serena williams” – “she’s not looking to construct points is she?”

so said the commentators, with whom i agree. it’s big serves and groundies from serena but no rallies. ana does well when she runs her around and makes her move, but sometimes it’s just not possible with serena’s big shots. to me, it makes for more exciting tennis when there’s a little more to a point but whatever. likely, serena will win anyhow.


Gordon Says:

@Madmax – um, yes it would be best if Fed could keep his 5-set matches to a minimum, as in none would be ideal.

@jane – there was a large article in Canada’s national Glibe & Mail saying Pospisock have committed to the US Open and to the Australian Open. They were quick to add that if either hits a solid streak of wins in singles they will forfeit their doubles matches; that is what they have agreed to.


madmax Says:

Some interesting facts:

Sunday’s final also marks the seventh tournament in which Federer has reached the championship stage on six or more occasions. Federer has contested the Basel final on 10 occasions (5-5); Halle and Wimbledon, each nine (7-2); the Barclays ATP World Tour Finals and Dubai each on eight attempts (6-2) and the US Open six times (5-1).


jane Says:

good to hear gordon! i am glad they’ll continue to play.


jane Says:

horrible end to the set (which was otherwise competitive) from ana, double faulting twice (or three times?) in that last game. too bad.

meanwhile, hilarious photo of fed on the front page. lol.


jane Says:

ana’s forehand is great when she hits it well; she’s also used the squash shot as effective defence the last two matches. i wish her serve (and mind) were steadier.


skeezer Says:

Gotta say both ladies look very fit and pleasing to the eye. Serena continues to serve well and looks for first strike tennis.


FedExpress Says:

Now the main final will start on time

come on fed


Humble Rafa Says:

The Unkempt One is now shaved. Also a decent hair cut. Next step. Stock choking. Get a gf.


contador Says:

Federer has the first break 5-3. Roger to serve for the set


Hippy Chic Says:

Giles @6.35am August 17th FYI i did actually on the other thread,i believe i said congrats on Ferrer and how nice to see him making another final,after whats been a tricky year so far for him,or words to that effect….


Hippy Chic Says:

Humble Rafa i believe David has got a GF,and his haircut actually does suit him….


contador Says:

Omg, Federer survived multiple break points to win the 1st set.

6-3

Not the best tennis from Federer. But it is enough to beat Ferrer, so far…


FedExpress Says:

oh my

the last game.

federer made good serves but still went 0-40 down due to ferrers excellent play

the rest was just clutch

but dont repeat this now


contador Says:

Hippy Chic,

Ignore the pressure from Giles (or anyone) to always congratulate every player…1) impossible to post that much and 2) what is she doing keeping track of your posts, anyhow? That is weird enough in itself. It is none of her business…sheesh…


Hippy Chic Says:

Thanks Contador….


Hippy Chic Says:

David is doing well to keep this cometitive,but the gulf in class is quite evident….


contador Says:

Another love -40 service game from Federer….he can’t keep saving all these break points!


FedExpress Says:

man federer

what are u doing


contador Says:

Deuce! he saves the bp’s

by the skin of his teeth he is holding serve atm


FedExpress Says:

he saved all three but his last two service games werent convincing


contador Says:

Ferrer breaks….inevitably had to happen


Hippy Chic Says:

Having said that Ferrer is working hard to try and get a break on Federers service games,a break for him will ignite this final….


contador Says:

ah, Federer…

Daveed holds fairly easily and it is 3-0 Ferrer ahead in the 2nd set


Polo Says:

Hahaha! Edberg looks like he wants to smack Roger with a racket!


Eric Says:

Man Ferrer is just owning the court right now. Nothing getting by him. Federer should still take the match though. He looks pretty crisp overall.


contador Says:

Daveed Ferrer is on fire so far this set…

Federer not so much.

And Ferrer is suddenly ahead 5-0

Federer better come back to the present…very sloppy.


FedExpress Says:

nooo

not another final loss

nothing is working

fed looking tired


contador Says:

Yeah Federer should come to his senses and win …but…will he?


Polo Says:

And Mirka looks like she’s giving birth to another pair of twins. Oh, the agony of watching Federer fade.


contador Says:

Come on Feddy bear


Purcell Says:

Fed lost rhythm completely. Looks tired and disinterested. Another failed final coming up. Ferrer playing with extra gusto tonight.


Purcell Says:

Aaaaah wrong tactics.


the DA Says:

Federer has gone walkabout – in the 2nd set, yet again. I thought he’d eliminated that after the QF. Ferru is playing and returning great now. I think he has a great chance now as long as he doesn’t think about what he might achieve.


Eric Says:

Are you guys even watching the match or have you so little regard for Ferrer that you literally can’t understand what you are looking at when Fed’s opponent plays well? Yes it’s disappointing but Federer is still playing pretty well.


Polo Says:

I get it. Federer wants to see if he can repeat the second set he had with Murray.


contador Says:

I have not been this nervous watching a Fed match in 3 years…

Really emotionally invested here! Want him to stop the finals losing streak!


Polo Says:

Eric, it’s more of frustration over Federer’s play rather than a disregard of Ferrer’s skills. We all acknowledge that Ferrer is a very good player.


van orten Says:

He had 5 break Chances in that set…says it all..


Eric Says:

Sure, but to my eyes Federer is playing quite well. “Disinterested,” “tired,” “on a walkabout,” etc. etc. — please. Ferrer is simply playing better than him at the moment. Third set coming up, I expect Roger to take it.


contador Says:

Well, to win, Federer will need to raise his present level then to match Daveed’s play. (Still say that was some sloppy tennis from Fed. the 2nd set – not to take anything away from Ferrer’s energized play)


Polo Says:

Actually, of all the players Federer has lost to in his string of finals failures, Ferrer is the only one I could take gladly, If that were to happen. Still hoping for Federer to win, though.


tennisfansince76 Says:

@Eric I’ve seen federer play a lot and that second set was poor. He was serving at 44 percent. When playing well he serves 60 – 70 percent


contador Says:

C’mon Feddy, break him!


Eric Says:

Well, sure, when you lose a set 6-1, clearly, you need to play better in order to win the match. But my point is that tennis involves two players. Analysis based only on your emotions about the player you like is always going to be bad. If you think Fed played poorly, fine, but back it up somehow: he wasn’t committing UEs in egregious quantity, or shanking the ball, or making loads of poor decisions. He was just losing points — because Ferrer was playing better than him for the middle part of the set. (By which I mean that he was anticipating Federer’s shots better than vice versa, which let him wrong-foot him quite a number of times, and he was doing his impenetrable Ferrer defense thing to an unusual degree, and often went for bigger shots that turned into winners despite, or because of, being so out-of-position, instead of just pushing the ball back over like most players do most of the time– to give a few things that I noticed.)


contador Says:

Yay! he breaks, (Fed) does! 3-1 final set.

hold, hold, hold…

1st serve has returned maybe


Eric Says:

Fed has won innumerable matches while serving in the 40-50% range, although I didn’t notice it was so low in the second set– thanks, tennisfan, for actually giving reasons for your claim.


contador Says:

4-1!!

Go Fed!


the DA Says:

The Fed of the 1st set has reappeared in the third. Nothing Ferru could do about that FH, dropshot combo. He’s gotta hope for another mini-walkabout or it’s curtains.


Polo Says:

I’m not at all analytical when I watch Federer. I just want him to win. The more boring, just like what some call his match with Raonic, the better. He wins, I’m happy. Does not matter how the other guy played.


contador Says:

Daveed fighting to hold his serve. We give him plenty of credit. Ferrer is a fighter…he may still win. Yikes!


Eric Says:

Actually, you precisely don’t give him any credit when your sole explanatory factor for the outcome of the match is Federer’s play.


contador Says:

Not in the least bit analytical or unbiased at the moment…

Go Feddy!!


Polo Says:

Come on Federer, win! I will analyze later.


Hippy Chic Says:

LOL IMO both have played well at different times….


Okiegal Says:

That first set last night was boring….much better today imo. Triple MP.


contador Says:

That was out! YAY!!

He did it! he wins a masters 1000!


Eric Says:

BOOM!

(See, I can be enthusiastic too!)


Ben Pronin Says:

At 33, Federer just did a Final-Win combo in Toronto and Cincy. It’s a shame he didn’t pull off the double but holy crap.


Polo Says:

Yoohoo! He won!!!


FedExpress Says:

COME ON

GET IN

CHUM JETZE

ALLEEZ

THE BEST EVER

GOAT


Eric Says:

Yeah, I wish he’d won in Canada too- Tsonga seems to give him trouble in Toronto… (/Montreal, but that doesn’t alliterate.)


Gordon Says:

The argument can always be made that there are two players and therefore it just isn’t one guy (in this case Fed) going off for a spell.

But…

Ferrer has no say whatsoever on Roger’s 1st serve percentage.

2nd set 1st serve%: 52%
3rd set 1st serve%: 84%

When Federer’s serve deserts him his entire game turns to putty. Kudos to him for righting the ship today!


andrea Says:

yay fed! just saw final score. what happened in 2nd set? anyway, great win. sorry ferrer…gotta be disappointing to always be facing these guys in semis and finals.


skeezer Says:

Vamos Fed!
Maestro did it 6 time Champ! GOAT.

Btw who cannot appreciate Ferrers effort playing Tennis. He gives it all every single point.


contador Says:

Feels like the first masters Fed ever won! hahaha….crazy

Feel the love :D


tennisfansince76 Says:

@Eric I have to disagree. Fed is fairly consistent server. It is one of his strengths as opposed to say Murray. Against a good player like David if Fed’s first serve percent takes a dive the match may become much more difficult and that is exactly what happened.


Eric Says:

OK but you have to ask at least, “Why did Federer’s 1st serve % dip?” It’s not a random blip. Federer (and any other pro) could serve 99.9% if their goal were to make every first serve. But their goal is to win points, so they go for hard serves– when a player is feeling hard pressed, one tactic is to go for riskier first serves. Then, of course, you can say that the serve % is a good barometer of mental condition. This is well-agreed upon for some players (say, Ana Ivanovic, who can’t even toss the ball well when she’s rattled).

So Federer’s first serve dip is partly the result of Ferrer putting pressure on him. You have to go back to the first game of the second set when each of them had several game points. It was pretty crazy, lots of very unusual bounces and stuff, to both players’ advantage in turn.

Ironically, it’s actually disrespectful to Federer to imagine that brief spells of being outclassed can only be his own fault — the underlying assumption here is that he just randomly falls to pieces mentally and can’t get a serve in to save his life. More honest, accurate, and respectful to BOTH players is to admit that even Federer can get pushed around and out of his comfort zone. What makes him who he is, is that he got things back together.


Okiegal Says:

Roger’s hairline is receding a bit. Can’t really tell that much about his hair with the headband on during the matches. Another sign of getting older…mine is too!!

I am going to send congrats to all Fed fans on his 6th Cincy championship……even though some other Rafa fans might take issue with it…..but too bad so sad!
He had an awesome week and he’s rockin’ it ATM! Sorry for David…..He did send him on walkabout, but not for long!

Ready for the USO!!


Hippy Chic Says:

Congrats Federer and fans that was some comeback,after captitulating in that second set,sorry for Daveed without the likes of Roger,Rafa,Novak and Andy im sure he would have a multitude of titles by now,such a nice hard working player,that always seems to come up short against the very best,this is i suppose what seperates the best from the rest,and the men from the boys….


Eric Says:

They showed a pretty hilarious and revealing stat after the first set — Ferrer has only ever won 2 titles at tournaments where 1 or more of the “Big Four” were in the draw. (Or so they seemed to claim– hard to believe.)


Hippy Chic Says:

Okiegal mine too lol,years of taking thyroxine causes hair loss,i will probably be as bald as Lubijic eventually,anyway i already congratulated Roger and fans,and also comiserated Daveed too,and i hope thats alright with Giles?:))….


Gordon Says:

The most significant stat as far as I can tell going into the US Open:

2014 wins over players ranked in the top 10

Federer – 12 (tour best). Last year? 1
Murray – 0


the DA Says:

Federer is surely the US Open favorite now. Or? I think these walkabouts are still a potential problem but better to manage in best of 5. With Nole & Andy’s current form and Rafa a big question mark (even if he plays), this must be the most wide-open slam in eons.


van orten Says:

So happy and well deserved after all the fighting this year…congrats to all..tennis is the best sport in da world…


Purcell Says:

Sad for Daveed, thought he might pull through. Ecstatic for Rog. Will be able to think more rationally in twenty-four hours.


Eric Says:

Roger and Novak are probably co-favorites in my eyes. Many others can’t be written off. Definitely more ? marks at the top of the seeding than there have been for years and years, agreed.


the DA Says:

@Eric – that’s not the only incredible stat:

Ferrer is 0-15 in finals vs. the Big Four (and he only won three of 35 sets).

@Gordon- he’s undoubtedly lacking serious form but write him off at your peril – especially if your favorite meets him in the 4th round.


Gordon Says:

@the D A – let’s not forget what happened this year when Rafa had a mediocre (by his standards) clay court season leading up to Rolland Garros and then demolished all comers to take his 9th French Open.

I think we have to say Djokovic is still the favorite in New York. However, no one should smirk at the suggestion that Roger Federer is still going to be a major factor.


Gordon Says:

If Nadal skips the US Open then Ferrer gets seeded 4th.

If Nadal can play then Wawrinka gets the 4th seed.

If I were Djokovic, Federer and Nadal (if he plays) I would be more concerned with seeing Murray or Tsonga in my quarter over Berdych and Ferrer.

Can’t wait for the draw.


jane Says:

congrats to fed & fans. missed th last set.

the da – crazy (bad) ferrer stat!!


FedExpress Says:

Howard ca Mole bei favourite?

Reached 4 finals in a row and five in total and still won only one us open title


the DA Says:

Roger is always going to be a major factor. Plus draws have been known to open up. Of course Djokovic is the favorite – especially considering his record there over the last 5 years – but his recent lapses were very unsettling.

Thinking about the other top 10 players:

° Wawa – very up and down season since Monte Carlo. He could make the QF/SF or go out in the 3rd round.

° Berdy – very erratic. hasn’t gone beyond the 3rd round at any tourny since Queens.

° Ferrer – only recently found some form. Always a danger in the draw.

° Raonic – Despite the plaudits, I still don’t see him as seriously challenging certain players on HC over 5 sets (and particularly if with night matches where conditions slow down). He was perhaps fortunate that Kyrgios opened things up for him at Wimbledon.

° Dimitrov – Also erratic since Wimbledon. He made the Toronto SF but benefitted from a choking Anderson. He did do well at the AO though. Undecided.

° Murray – Definitely has issues. Several matches this year he had been in leading positions and folded inexplicably. Who would’ve thought that RG would be his best result? But it’s HC and his favorite slam. If he follows the trend at earlier slams, he’ll be in great form for the first 4 rounds – which is dangerous to other top seeds if he’s seeded no. 9. Unless Rafa pulls out. Undecided but low expectations.

° Tsonga – we all know what to think: he could tear through the draw or fizzle out early.

So I’m still as uncertain as ever. Maybe this is the year some unexpected player makes his breakthrough? Maybe the top players will find their default form for slams. It’s very intriguing and feels new.


Daniel Says:

Maybe this could be Federer Slam, depending n draw and if a top player loses early he can get in the final another top 10 player which are none of the big 4 and if so, he will be the favorite.

Nadal playing or not (to be decided this week) will have major implications on draw and potentail winners


Leo Says:

I think Djoko still fave.

Roger/Murray/Nadal #2 faves.


madmax Says:

Okiegal Says:
Roger’s hairline is receding a bit. Can’t really tell that much about his hair with the headband on during the matches. Another sign of getting older…mine is too!!

I am going to send congrats to all Fed fans on his 6th Cincy championship……even though some other Rafa fans might take issue with it…..but too bad so sad!
He had an awesome week and he’s rockin’ it ATM! Sorry for David…..He did send him on walkabout, but not for long!

Ready for the USO!!

OKI :)ROGER has beautiful hair. We all know that.

Alison, you are a far better poster than giles. Please. Take Contador’s advice. Stop berating yourself and looking for their affirmation to the way you post here.

Oki, have you seen rafa’s hairline lately? :)


Tennis lover Says:

Even If Nadal play and Djokovic reaches to his usual form, none of them are going to win to USO this time. I repeat neither Nadal nor Novak will clinch USO Trophy this open. It’ll leave Federer doing great in US open. Djokovic will falter in Quarter or end up loosing another final after wimbledon victory. If Nadal play he’ll be ousted by 4th round as his form, uncertainty over wrist is gonna hurt him this time, I think Murray will finally get his groove this time. I reckon him as Semifinalist, if he does that, he’s a great chance of lifting USO this time even if he faces Federer. And, any of Tsonga, Ferrer, Berdych, Dimitrov even Stan will have a good US OPEN time but that doesn’t make them title contender let alone being potential winner. This time, you’ll have to see what most of u don’t want to believe, a certain 33 year old guy winning US open title. So, take a deep breath and wait for that to happen. O! Also stop placing other guys above him.


Wog boy Says:

Congrats to Roger and his fans, this man just doesn’t give up, does he?

Nole is not favorite for USO, he has to many things on his mind, but he will do well, I just have a feeling.


SG1 Says:

Great job by Roger to get another Masters 1000 under his belt. He’s going through some ups and downs but he’s winning a lot of matches which is the important thing.

He’ll get a chance to build momentum at the USO as the early matches are usually quite straight forward for the top seeds. I don’t think there’s any doubt Roger will go deep at the USO though I agree that Novak will get things going by the time the 2nd week of the tournament begins.

I’m not sure what to make of Murray right now. His recent results don’t warrant optimism though it would seem unwise to right him off. Andy’s tournament will begin in the 2nd week as he hasn’t had much success against the upper echelon players.

I’d like to see an all-Swiss final. Would be a hoot!


Tennis lover Says:

Even If Nadal plays and Djokovic reaches to his usual form, none of them are going to win to USO this time. I repeat neither Nadal nor Novak will clinch USO Trophy this time. It’ll leave Federer doing great in US open. Djokovic will falter in quarter or end up loosing another final after wimbledon victory. If Nadal plays he’ll be ousted by 4th round as his form, uncertainty over wrist is gonna hurt him, I think Murray will finally get his groove in USO. I reckon him as semifinalist, if he reaches that far, he’s a great chance of lifting USO this time even if he faces Federer in the final. And, any of Tsonga, Ferrer, Berdych, Dimitrov even Stan might have a good US Open time but that doesn’t make them title contender let alone being potential winner. This time, you’ll have to see what most of u don’t want to believe, a certain 33 year old guy winning US open title. So, take a deep breath and wait for that to happen. O! Also stop placing other guys above him.


skeezer Says:

Thanks jane HC, wig boy and Okie!
Hope Fed continues his run into USO, Nole crushes his way to the finals and Rafa decides to play. Tennis has never been better.


Steve 27 Says:

tennislover,
are you the male jamie?
how much will you bet for The Ancuento to win this imaginary title?
dont repeat the bs of greenstone lobo


Steve 27 Says:

will Randall start a thread how the competition is so poor that and old guy can win a Master 1000?
the author implied thar Rafa won last year the summer slam because the competition was poor
Well, Randall I’m expecting an article expecting the same. no double standard.

I laugh when he said that Djokovic was in bad shape last year, losing 2 of their matches in the acclaimed best partdo three sets against Rafa in Montreal and in the final of the Us Open.
If that Djokovic was not in good shape, what can we say about level of the sebian in these two tournaments?
Andy, best not to say anything.
Do not be subjective, Randall, say something about the competition as last year, shows that you possess some objectivity in your articles, even if you’re a fan of the Swiss.


Steve 27 Says:

I laugh when he said that Djokovic was in bad shape last year, losing 2 of their best games in the acclaimed three-set match against Rafa in Montreal and the end of Us Open.
If that Djokovic was not in good shape, what can we say Serbian level in these two tournaments?
Andy, best not to say anything.
Do not be subjective, Randall, say something about the competition as last year, shows that you possess some objectivity in your articles, even if you’re a fan of the Swiss.


Okiegal Says:

Yes, Madmax, I have noticed Rafa’s hair before and so has everyone else, especially non Rafa fans and they have been very vocal about his so called balding on forums before…..it was just an observation, as I said, mine is too! He still has a gorgeous head of hair and a new trophy to go with it. Life can’t get any better for old Rog than this.


metan Says:

Go David. You deserve to win. ☺


Okiegal Says:

Skeezer

You are welcome…..your guy has been playing so well. He may be 33 but certainly not playing like it. Serena got some years on her too, but she is getting the job done. I know that has to be very rewarding for both of them. To think that they are still playing and winning……after all…..they could be retired already!!


skeezer Says:

@wog boy
Sorry for the mis spell :(

@okiegal
Thank you. I know Serena is no spring chicken either, no?
And hope your man gets well soon and you get some good news next week.


Okiegal Says:

Thanks, Skeez, appreciate that. I hope so too…..but just not real confident about that. If it is the least bit healed, when he starts hammering the 2hbh, I don’t see how he could stay well long. I personally think it’s too soon to play a major…I think playing the AO would be better for him.


Jo Says:

I thought these younglings already has ripen. I couldnt believe a retiree Federer could massacre Raonic in his peak. Raonic would not move any faster in next yrs than now.


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