Beijing Blockbusters Friday: Djokovic v Dimitrov, Murray v Cilic; Serena, Sharapova Also
by Sean Randall | October 2nd, 2014, 4:35 pm
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It’s getting good in Asia. After a smooth first few days for the seeds, the stars remain alive in Beijing meaning we should see some really terrific matches ahead, and that starts tomorrow.

Top seed and 4-time champion Novak Djokovic brings a 21-0 record at the event into his match with Grigor Dimitrov. The Bulgarian did beat Djokovic last year in Madrid, but Novak leads overall 4-1. The 23-year-old Dimitrov, though, doesn’t sound afraid of the world No. 1.

“[Novak] has always played well here. At the same time I like my chances,” Dimitrov said. “I’ve been practising well. I had a good block before the last bit of the season. In a way I’m excited to just come out there and play that match. Of course… I’m going to give my all.”

With Djokovic’s perfect record at the event and his pursuit of the No. 1 ranking, it’s hard not to tip the Serb here. But I expect a tight match.

Following a first title in 14 months last Sunday in Shenzhen, Andy Murray is back to playing good tennis. Or so we think. Murray, who’s fighting for his life trying to qualify for London, crushed Pablo Cuevas earlier today 6-2, 6-2 to win his sixth straight match. But up next is the streaking Marin Cilic. The US Open champion is on the run of his life having now won nine consecutive matches. And not only is he tough to beat, you can’t even win a set off the guy – the Croat’s taken 14 straight sets.

Murray does lead 9-2 in this one but Cilic won their most recent meeting in Rotterdam, so I’ll lean his way in Beijing. It’s really a big test for both guys – where’s Murray’s game at and can Cilic back up the US Open win?

Also, Rafael Nadal appears to be already in form and primed to push Djokovic and the idle Roger Federer for that No. 1 spot. Rafa faces fellow lefty Martin Klizan. Rafa should come out ahead but the Slovak is pretty decent and has taken the first set in both identical scoreline losses to Nadal the two times they previously played.

And should Rafa win he’ll likely meet Tomas Berdych in the semis. The underperforming Czech plays fellow big man John Isner. Berdych has won five of seven against the American including their last seven sets. So I like Berdych here.

The women’s field is also loaded with Serena Williams and Sam Stosur meeting in a rematch of their 2011 US Open clash. Maria Sharapova is on against fellow French champion Svetlana Kuznetsova and Petra Kvitova plays Roberta Vinci. Ana Ivanovic already advanced into the semis when Simona Halep withdrew from their match with a hip injury.

In Tokyo, Kei Nishikori is living up to his star billing. He’ll play Jeremy Chardy. Milos Raonic and Gilles are also alive in the quarters tomorrow

FRIDAY BEIJING SCHEDULE
NATIONAL TENNIS STADIUM start 12:30 pm
ATP – [1] N Djokovic (SRB) vs [5] G Dimitrov (BUL)

Not Before 2:30 pm
WTA – S Kuznetsova (RUS) vs [4] M Sharapova (RUS)
WTA – [1] S Williams (USA) vs S Stosur (AUS)

Not Before 7:30 pm
ATP – [Q] M Klizan (SVK) vs [2] R Nadal (ESP)
WTA – K Mladenovic (FRA) / A Pavlyuchenkova (RUS) vs [2] C Black (ZIM) / S Mirza (IND)

LOTUS COURT start 12:30 pm
WTA – [3] P Kvitova (CZE) vs R Vinci (ITA)

Not Before 2:30 pm
ATP – [4] M Cilic (CRO) vs [6] [WC] A Murray (GBR)
ATP – [8] J Isner (USA) vs [3] T Berdych (CZE)
WTA – TBA – [1] S Errani (ITA) / R Vinci (ITA) or [6] A Kudryavtseva (RUS) / A Rodionova (AUS) vs [5] A Hlavackova (CZE) / S Peng (CHN)


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113 Comments for Beijing Blockbusters Friday: Djokovic v Dimitrov, Murray v Cilic; Serena, Sharapova Also

Tennis Vagabond Says:

Two great matches ahead. Murray had a great US Open, really. Both guys will be so hungry, but for fans, I think the Cilic win would be more meaningful. After USO I fully expect Murray in the thick of contention again. I want to know if Cilic is going to stick around at the tail end of tournaments!
Dmitrov has already shown he belongs here, and he’s only going to get better. He doesn’t NEED to win tomorrow, he’s shown he’ll have lots of chances. He’s getting better. The Fab Four is aging. At some point he’ll win those matches.
On the JV side I’m also really looking forward to the looming Nishikori vs Raonic match. Lot of interesting stuff going on when you think outside the Big Four.


Michael Says:

Novak Vs Dmitrov should be a very competitive match seen from the angle of the former’s perceptible decline in form. It is tough to call this match as both can win. But I stick with Novak to get through.

Another blockbuster match is between the new US Open Champion Cilic and Andy. This should be an engrossing match with both in sublime form. I do not think H2H can be a factor here considering that Cilic is coming out with new found confidence after his slam win and Andy too is playing his best stylish Tennis. So, it should be a toss up and who plays best on the day might get through this tight match. I will just say Andy has a slight edge.


Okiegal Says:

Some great matches on tap today. I will watch Novak, get some shut eye and get up for Rafa at 6:30. The Andy match will be good too……but I’ve got to sleep sometime!! The all nighter I pulled with Rafa left me very tired and its caught up with me…..yawn……lol


josh Says:

why cant dimitrov convert b/ps oh God.


Josh Says:

I dont see djoko winning beijing and shanghai bcos i think he will lose one.


jane Says:

nole was great in set 1 but dropped his level a bit at points in set 2. all-in-all, i am pleased. dimitrov showed flashes of brilliance but it feels like he doesn’t sustain momentum that well. nole was very determined though.


Colin Says:

Wow! Andy serves a bread stick to the US Open champ.


Wog boy Says:

Commentsoor couldn’t be more right with his comment:
“When you take his serve away, Cilic is pretty ordinary player”.


jane Says:

^ yes, look like confidence isn’t helping marin after all.


the DA Says:

That was as perfect a first set as I could’ve hoped for from Andy. He’s doing everything well. Of course, it’s now danger watch for the 2nd set,


the DA Says:

Here’s an astonishing statistic (considering the quality of Marin’s serve):

Andy won 53% of points on Cilic’s first serve in the first set. 9/17. Makes all the difference when he plays against a good returner.


Sirius Says:

@wog boy,

who is commentsoor?


Wog boy Says:

Hi Sirius,

They are Aussie commentators, I am not sure if it is Wally Masur and Josh Eagle, can’t pick the voices.


jane Says:

ha! so much for blockbusters: cilic managed 5 games vs andy and dimitrov managed 6 vs nole. ;)


Wog boy Says:

“who is commentsoor?”

Ok Sirius, I got it:)


the DA Says:

That was a good emphatic win and much needed for Andy’s quest to climb back up the rankings. Cilic didn’t have the best day but I think that was due to his being smothered by Andy in the 1st set and ultimately thrown off his rhythm. Mucho happy for Andy – he needed another scalp of this quality.

Jane – so often the advertised ‘blockbusters’ fail to live up to the hype. But we’ll take our favs getting through, no? Maybe the real blockbuster is tomorrow?


Colin Says:

An important victory for Andy. It’s fascinating to watch him dismantle someone’s game, even if it isn’t always pretty.

After that, I reckon Nole, though he’ll be the favourite,will not win in straight sets.


Margot Says:

And in the long tradition of doozy comments on tx:
Andy owes Cuevas a crate of champagne…;)
Brilliant, clinical dissection of Marin’s game.
Love yer Andy :)


Josh Says:

I see andy beating djoko 2morrow bcos i believe he has been d better player apart 4rm his first match.


jane Says:

da, yes! methinks so. :)


Wog boy Says:

Berdych is on fire, he is demolishing poor Isner.


Hippy Chick Says:

Its unusual to see a big server like Isner losing serve so many times,Berdych looks very good….


Hippy Chick Says:

Didnt see Novak play,but Andy also looked very good,Josh i hope your right,would love a Rafa/Andy final as my two favorites havent met in a final for a long time,although im certainly not taking it for granted that Rafa will beat Klizan or Berdych as Berdych is unplayable in this match….


Hippy Chick Says:

IMO Its a pity Robredo was screwed by the shedualing,as a Robredo/Berdych match up might have been more of a contest….


Sirius Says:

Wog boy, alison,

there won’t be that fire and he won’t be looking good tomorrow ;)


Wog boy Says:

Sirius,
You mean against Klizan;)


Sirius Says:

Wog boy,

lol. you know what i meant ;)


Hippy Chick Says:

Wogboy/Sirius im not saying Berdych cant/wont beat Rafa,but i think he would have a better chance against Klizan,although with the way Rafa played yesterday im certainly not taking it for granted he will even meet Berdych….


Hippy Chick Says:

Wogboy and Sirius lol like Del and Rodney Trotter….


Wog boy Says:

Btw, Serena pulled out due to knee injury.


Wog boy Says:

Wheather you like Berdych or not but he was striking the ball beautifuly tonight.


Hippy Chick Says:

Wogboy exactly,im not a fan but i did warm to him after Queens last year when he played Lendel in that exho for Ross Hutchins last year to raise money for charity,and the way he was talking about his girlfriend Esther was quite sweet too….


Hippy Chick Says:

Rafas having his work cut out against Klizan,and has just been broken,so its as ive said all week,not exactly a shoo for the final that everyone thought,and let it be said those were the sayings by none Rafa fans rather than the Rafa fans….


Hippy Chick Says:

If he loses this match then i would say getting this far on your first tourney back would still be a good showing….


Ben Pronin Says:

No it wouldn’t.


Hippy Chick Says:

And Why,when you havent played for months?


Ben Pronin Says:

Because he has no business losing to Klizan. He’s been practicing so it’s not like he’s forgotten how to play.


Hippy Chick Says:

OK Ben fair enough if you say so?….


Josh Says:

Rafa takes d first set 7-6 but an average performance by his standard.


Hippy Chick Says:

Josh apart from against Gasquet,hes played crap all week….


Sirius Says:

Watching today’s last 2 qf matches, i think berdych should have a 6-2, 6-4 scoreline victory tomorrow. Sadly for him, it would be the other way around


Felipe Says:

Nadal will survive today.If he plays the second semifinal, and Djokovic is waiting in the final, he will tank his match against Berdych.


Hippy Chick Says:

WHAT-A-ABSOLUTE-LOAD-OF-BALONY,you here some BS on this forum sometimes,but that statement really takes the biscuit lol….


Hippy Chick Says:

Sirius this match aint done yet,i dont really want three sets,but i have a sneaky feeling im about to get it?….


Sirius Says:

Alison,

i thought it was over the moment i posted the comment. but now i see klizan had other ideas.

Don’t you worry if its a 3 setter win for rafa. He’ll take care of birdy ;)


Felipe Says:

Or maybe he can tank now!!


Hippy Chick Says:

Sirius well according to some peoples theory Nadals tanking against Birdy,but hes also tanking here against Klizan now,but i dont see how he could possibly tank both matches *ROLLS EYES*??


Daniel Says:

Another Djoko x Murray match. Curious to see if Murray will unleash his forehand as he did for 2 sets in US Open.

Another Nadal x Klizan match going to third set and just followed scores and Nadal saved BP to hold serve. Can’t see him losing to Berdych if he survives here.


Felipe Says:

Nadal HATES losing, specially to top guys…thats why when he is “not feeling 100%” he would rather skip an event instead of playing (that explains his ridiculous career winning porcentage, if you dont play, you dont lose). Let me remind you that he withdrew from Australia 2013 not due to a knee problem, but beacause he caught an stomachal virus at the end of the year. He skipped the year end excibition in the emirates, Doha (he was in the draw) and the first Grand Slam because he felt that he was not in top form. The same happened in Wimbledon 2009.
He has been saying during this tournament that he need matches and bla bla…but if he is not feeling confident enough, he will avoid a potential defeat to a main rival. At least Federer admited that he was kind of afraid to play Nadal at USOPEN 2010 and 2013


Hippy Chick Says:

If he survives here?


Okiegal Says:

Martin has won 11 straight points….yuck….Rafa is done!!


Daniel Says:

Klizan broke and will serve for the match. Let’s see if he can do it. Beat a big name


Okiegal Says:

I fear he won’t be able to recover. Martin serving for set!……sigh….


Hippy Chick Says:

Oh well over and out,no complaints Klizan deserves the win,hope he backs it up against Berdych,no tanking better player won or is about to….


skeezer Says:

There was a time you couldn’t hit through Rafa. Those days are gone.


Sirius Says:

Berdych is probably giving a break-dance in his hotel room right now!


Hippy Chick Says:

I wasnt expecting all that much,Ben disagrees with me but i dont think it was a bad showing for a first tourney back,against an inspired opponent….


Okiegal Says:

Well, back to my regular sleeping habits for awhile…..now for the aftermath! On to Shanghai…..Congrats to Klizan fans he played awesome tennis today……but if you want to beat Rafa Nadal, you have to.

It went as I figured it would….1st match fresh and played well…..2nd match not so fresh…..3rd set started out a little better but ended poorly…..Well you cant win them all!!

C’MON ANDREW!!


Hippy Chick Says:

Yeah come on Andy(Charlton Heston)….


Hippy Chick Says:

Just to say inspite of the facial hair Klizan is quite good looking IMO….


Hippy Chick Says:

He will probably lose tamely to Berdych now,which would be a big dissapointment….


Okiegal Says:

@Skeezer 10:20

I believe you are spot on there….I think so too.
I really did not expect him to get to the finals anyway.


Hippy Chick Says:

Okiegal agree,it was too soon,but never let it be said that all Rafa fans are arrogant enough to expect him to win every tournament he enters….


Hippy Chick Says:

Just to say not competing in a tournament is a completely different thing to actually tanking in a match….


Daniel Says:

That he wasn’t expected ti reach final on his firta tourney back?! OK
But this was a easy draw conpared to the other side. So on paper he should reach finals. HC is tricky and everyone can play good for 2 or 3 sets as shown today.

In Shangai he will be less favourite because te draw is more loaded, don’t expect him to win that either or even reach finals. So his best chance now is Base or Paris where usually we get a depleted field and some players are spent (specially fi
Djoko doesn’t play) as will most likelly hapen due to Babyvic.


Okiegal Says:

@Chick…..right on….he has said many times it’s impossible to win every match., no?? I wasn’t really expecting a finals for him……not having any match play since Wimby, other than the exo……which you can’t count.

Speaking of Andy’s look alike, I think that Grigor is a cutie too! If I were 50 yrs younger I would hop a plane (in reality a boat…you know why) lol go to Europe, kick Sugarpova to the curb, entice him with Lindt or Belgian chocolate and go watch Rafa win his 10th Frenchie! LOL


Giles Says:

It’s never easy coming back from an injury. Anyway this was all about rhythm/match fitness.
Onto Shanghai.
Vamos Rafa!


Hippy Chick Says:

I dont expect him to win Paris or Shanghai,im happy to sit back and see what happens,let the chips fall wherever they may,but as the saying goes theres a first time for everything,and never has doesnt mean never will otherwise why even bother to tune in,but just to say Novaks beatable too??


Hippy Chick Says:

^Post for Daniel,it seems some people cant accept a persons acceptance^….


Hippy Chick Says:

Okiegal thanks i need a good laugh at the moment….


Hippy Chick Says:

I dont mind Rafa losing,but the thing i find irritating is when posters bring up the whole he can only beat Nole when A)Noles not at his best,B)Noles missing,C)Noles mind is on other things,D)A depleted field,dear me cant posters simply accept when a player is simply better than their favorites,instead of spinning things around to suit their own emotional bias?


jane Says:

surprised about the klizan result. but i haven’t seen rafa playing because of time difference.

daniel, babyvic = cute. :)


Brando Says:

I am actually glad Rafa lost that one! The following:

1. He was never going to win here. Let’s get that straight and out of the way/ In his comeback event on Clay in 2013 he lost so did anyone genuinely believe he would win here? IMHO- only the foolish or the most dreamy of individuals would have harboured that idea.

2. Rafa came for practise: At the end of the day, the guy is a honest individual who knows how to go about a comeback. He said he’s looking for matches and does not carry any illusions of winning the events since he knows for various reasons (3 months off tour, tough time traditionally for him in season etc) that would be folly do to do so.

He knows what he needs is matches:

He got 3 matches here and his last one- the loss to KLIZAN- was a very competitive, up and down 3 set match which is just what the doctor ordered:

More court time v a aggressive hitter.

3. KLIZAN was a tough out:

Prematch I actually expected him to beat Rafa since he’s a big hitter and I remember he really challenged Rafa in FO 12′ so him beating Rafa in his return event at China Open I expected: the conditions and Rafa’s scenario seemed ideal for him.

He’s actually been a tricky opponent for Rafa so him winning does not surprise me. Of course though: the Rafa naysayer’s will extrapolate alot more from this loss, as they usually do. (Already some of his biggest followers- who do not support him but watch avidly- have their crystal ball out as to what lies ahead. As usual.

Above all else though:

Rafa’s contract with China Open is now done which means he could ditch this event in 2105: which is what I hope for. I hope he has a Federer like Asia swing calender since there is no point playing extra HC events when he can easily ditch them.

Especially this swing:

A outdoor HC swing building to no real major outdoor HC event. What follows is the indoor season so really it’s not a ideal setup and then take into account the extra travelling etc.

So it’s a good thing he’s lost on that front and he can now ditch this event and lose only 90 points for doing so.

He’s won this event, even beat NOVAK DJOKOVIC on this court in the biggest match they ever would play there so really:

Barring $$$$ there is not much to go to the China Open for. Got a title there, beat the main guy there on that court etc.

He should follow Fed’s lead:

Shanghai Masters and that’s it in Asia.


RZ Says:

Wow Klizan, where has that been the last year and half????

@Hippy Chick – good call on that yesterday. :-)

Rafa – two more tournaments to prove me right. Don’t make me eat crow here. LOL.

Andy, well done. Keep on rolling!


Polo Says:

Hippy Chick, go back and read some of the comments against Nadal. Many are so ridiculous, they’re actually funny they can make you laugh. A lot are thrown in here not to shed an intelligent input but rather to bait replies. Some people feel happy when they are able to irritate another, by whatever means.


Hippy Chick Says:

RZ TBH i didnt expect much this week….
Polo well said and thanks,sanity returns lol….


Polo Says:

Brando, nice spin on Nadal’s loss today and quite logical, hence acceptable. Nadal is a tennis genius. I think he learns from every match he plays. He will know where he stands (and how his body feels as regards his recent injury)right now and what he needs to do the next time.


Hippy Chick Says:

Polo/Brando nice posts,some people dont understand perspective….


Okiegal Says:

@Chick……thanks for humoring me!!

Win, lose or draw….I still love to watch our guy play. Wasn’t hitting the lines very well today. I haven’t checked the stats to see how many winners “he didn’t have”……..but I am going to.

Glad you got an LOL out of my post….need a little humor once in awhile, me thinks!!


Daniel Says:

HC

Don’t know if your post at 11:06 hs was for me but is no news to anybody that Paris is a depleted field. Federer won there as Djokovic and is the masters where least the “big 4″ dominates. Tsongo won it, Ferrer, Nalbandoan, I think Davydenko as well.

So there is no bias. It’s the last tournament of the year almost no mans land. Woth other players more interested in WTF. Usually we get a lot of upsets there hence my commnet that Nadal being fit and more “rested” than usual has a better shot there.

Actually before I knew he would play Basel i said of the last 4 tourneys didn’t expect him to win none based on past results and being indoors. But this tear he comes fresh but also after an injury which is never easy.

People have to be careful wit writen words and understand the tone they want. Most of you here are way too defensive. Not every sentence is am attack or player.

Nadal, Djokovic, Federer and Murray are never expected to lose bare one another so everytime they lose to other players is surprise but part of sport. They wouldn’t be what they are (specially Fed and Nadal) if is losses were “expected”.


Daniel Says:

Brando agree

Never understand why he plays Beijing but it was contractually. But also flying to chona to play 1 tourney as Fed did seems kind of pointless but Fed always plays Basel so his end of the year is loaded hence he plays only Shangai, when he plays.

Think also os better for Nadal to play Basel instead, staying in Europe for last 3 tourneys.


SG1 Says:

I don’t put much stock in how someone plays in the first couple of tournaments after a long lay off. Practice all you want…there isn’t anything like the pressure of playing match. Even a guy like Rafa needs a little time to adjust to playing meaningful points and matches. As for Nadal “tanking”, I don’t think that this type of behaviour is in his tennis DNA. Rafa may be injury prone, he may have a litany of “interesting on-court mannerisms” and he may be somewhat arrogant (name an elite athlete who isn’t at least a little arrogant). But a match tanker? Not a chance. Not buying it for one second. He’s the toughest competitor in any sport.


Daniel Says:

Jane;-)

Wog boy, Is the name already chosen and if true is a boy and Vladimir?!

Hope everyting goes alright this last month. Always delicate situation.


SG1 Says:

Rafa doesn’t need to tank. He makes his opponents tank (…give up or whatever) by never giving an inch.


rogerafa Says:

“Because he has no business losing to Klizan.”

I think Martin is a very dangerous player when he is truly on and can generate tremendous power. I have seen quite a few instances of him catching fire. It is another matter that he can not usually sustain it. Best of three format makes it easier for such players to upset a top guy. Rafa can not be expected to reach his best level in his first tournament after a break. I do think he will do very well in the rest of the season though. He is very fresh and raring to go whereas all his main rivals must be feeling rather knackered. I just get the feeling that he has his eyes set on the WTF this year and the AO next year. This break and the withdrawal from the tennis league should help his cause immensely.


Hippy Chick Says:

Daniel it was a generalisation and thats why i didnt use your name,but i will say upto a point it did coincide with what you said anyway,maybe it was defensive and maybe i did go on a rant??but i still stand by that post,whether he is or is not at his best,Novak is still beatable,wherever or whenever,same as any other player?and OK fair enough it aint Rafas best part of the year,but just because hes never done well or won a title at this time of year,doesnt neccassarily follow that he never will,thats why we tune in to see if these players can reverse the trend,otherwise why would we/he bother?


Daniel Says:

Don’t buy the tankimg either but is not hard to do it. was playing with my sister ince and I was winning 5-0 serve. Played first two points competitive and was 15-15 after she hit s clean winner. Noticed that she didn’t want to get bageled (returning from a long time without playing). I made a DF, missd a first serve again and a seco d shot forehand long (where I cursde to pretend better). Saved one BP with a first serve and on 30-40 serve to her forehand. She cracked the ball close to the line I could return but hitted wide.
Gave her 1 game fro pride and broke her to close the set the next game.
Of course this was just 1 game. Can’t believe they do it, way too competitive but can be easily done.


Hippy Chick Says:

Rogerafa i like your summary :-))….
SG1 great posts….


Daniel Says:

Agre HC. That’s way we watch to see if he will break the trend this year after some time away and heat up the race for #1.

Djoko is beatable and can lose to Murray tomorrow which willmake the end. the year more interesting. Becaue if he wins Beijing agan and goes on another tier in Shangai, pretty much he will close the year. I want the three of them to be playing for Year End in London. Last time we had an exciting ending was 2003 and prior when Guga beat Agassi and Sampras in 2001.


skeezer Says:

If Rafa won this tourney, am sure Rafa fans would say Rafa was not here to “practice”, etc. He’s a Professional Tennis Player. If Rafa enters a ATP tourney, trust me, he is entering to win.
There is nothing in Brando’s post I agree with, although found it humourous that a Rafa fan actually enjoyed him losing.


Hippy Chick Says:

Skeezer i wanted Rafa to win the whole thing,as you say im sure Rafa did too,but im sure some of us were realistic enough to see that that werent gonna happen?


FedExpress Says:

klizan did what berdych couldnt do for 9 nine years. beating nadal.

what a muppet berdych is


RZ Says:

@Daniel – I think Fed likes to act an ambassador for tennis, which is why he goes to play in China. I remember last year he played doubles there too with one of the Chinese players. It’s probably also why he signed on to play the exo matches in India in the off-season.


django Says:

Daniel
I wonder if he will be named after the godfather of the wedding, Neven.
I think the boy will be called Danijel. Let’s see.


Ben Pronin Says:

There is a serious misunderstanding with what Nadal’s recent injury was and how his layoff actually played out.

This isn’t 2012/2013. Not even close. Nadal was NOT practicing at all for a few months when he was sitting out (presumably). He had a knee injury. As in he couldn’t practice because he couldn’t use his legs.

This time around, he never stopped practicing. Only his backhand. He probably still practiced his slice. It was his RIGHT wrist. His forehand is still fine. His serve is probably fine. His legs are fine. He’s fine. Rust? I don’t think so. Just another excuse. Lack of conviction in his shots because of the lack of match practice? Ok, that’s fine.

Klizan is a dangerous player? That’s fine, too. But this was still an upset. Spin it all you want but Nadal had no business losing this match. Even if the result looks good on paper, it wasn’t.


Wog boy Says:

@Daniel,
Just guessing;) it will be boy and his name will be Vladimir, after Nole’s late grandfather.

@Sirius, I told you Berdych will play Klizan. Klizan did what one has to beat Nadal, he was going for his shots wasn’t scared and it paid off. What happened with those comments (by Rafa fans) after Rafa bageled Gasquet? They are changing tune now:)

Andy is favorite today.


Hippy Chick Says:

Wogboy changing what tune,i dont believe i saw posters from Rafa fans claiming he was a shoo for this match,that match or the title??


Hippy Chick Says:

Ben nobodys making excuses from what i can see?


Wog boy Says:

HC, changing tune about Rafa’s game and it is not you or Oki or ..

Of to Melbourne, long way to drive, no more tennis this long weekend for me, I will be in the bushland near Melbourne enjoying nature and hopefuly nice weather.


Hippy Chick Says:

Wogboy well have a nice time,and best of luck to Nole for the rest of the tourney….


Sirius Says:

@wogboy,

then berdych will be on fire and will be looking good


Hippy Chick Says:

Both Jane and RZ said about Rafa possibly winning the title here this week,and both happen to be none Rafa fans,you didnt actually hear any Rafa fans that i can recall claiming he would win the title,but as usual we get hung out to dry,why do i somehow get the impression that some people would rather this was a Rafa free forum?


Brando Says:

@Hippy Chic:

(warning: some truthful buttons will be touched upon. Sensitive posters running away now please):

Let haters hate. Don’t waste your time with them.

It’s silly to do so. What they really want is:

Tennis to be a Rafa free zone. Why?

It’s the only real way one particular player will achieve more that some feel-despite his success- has not achieved what he should do and that he actually lives in the shadow of Rafa and Fed.

Sure he’s successful but he’s NOT Fed or Rafa. He does NOT really- when it truly comes down to it- enjoy the adulation either one of those guys enjoys.

We know who is. Said player even post Wimbledon talked about how he need’s to win more Slams in order to show that he belongs with the all time greats- not the Beckers, McEnroe’s but the par elite, top dogs: Fedal, Pistol Pete, Borg and Laver- as he knows the number he’s on does not cut the mustard.

I give credit to him for that: he’s a honest individual to recognize the obvious. He knows Slams is what counts and his number is way short compared to those who pretty much dominated their given generation.

That’s one group.

Group 2:

They have some insecure fans.

Their fav enjoys the title of GOAT.

Yet they worry a certain Spaniard may match or usurp that.

Whether he will or not is not what matters:

The threat he carries whilst on tour them exists and is real.

And that bugs them. It eat’s away at them everytime the Spaniard nabs a Slam.

You think I am lying/ making that one up. I present my evidence:

Check the page for this years Roland Garros finals page and see the colossal fit some posters-regular posters- have over Rafa winning there.

Check the USO 2013, FO 2013 pages: it’s all there.

So in short:

Rafa’s a problem. Hence the hate. My advise:

Enjoy it. Take it as a huge compliment of Rafa’s Tennis skills that he’s able to draw such a strong, emotional reaction from folks who do not root for him since they just cannot bear him winning.

Me personally:

I love the hate. NO ONE fears/hates a weakling since he ain’t a threat but a strong force: that’s what draws hate for some.

Long may it continue since it likely would mean Rafa is still stirring up chaos in the big time.

Last words go to the player who beat Rafa today- MARTIN KLIZAN- and what he had to say about Rafa:

”For me this victory, that was the best night in my life. I’m just very happy that I beat Rafa. He’s a legend. I’m just very happy that I beat a legend.

“Rafa is a big star, he’s a big player. ”

That’s called RESPECT possessed by a fellow professional. That is worthy of noting than the petty pot shots of anonymous nobodies who got nothing but hate to offer!


skeezer Says:

HC,
Re; 3:33 post.
Check out Brando’s post @ 11:09.
There in you’ll find why others are having issues. Stuff like “he was never going to win here” and “Rafa came for practice”, ??…..Now another space fest post about ?….


jane Says:

to clarify hippy, in a friendly way i’d add, both rz and i said rafa would likely win one of the first THREE tournaments back, and after i said that expecting him to win this one, because it’s his first, is maybe unrealistic. just wanted to get that straight. :)


skeezer Says:

@jane
I thought he would go farther also, like Ben said he never stopped hitting his FH whilst being out. But he is fickle with his prepararion and mindset…. so…
Anyways, based on historical data on Rafa, one can only assume when he is ready to play, he’ll play. One shouldn’t be vested into what he or his camp says about his status. Its well known the gamesmenship he plays with all that. If he is 100% ready to play, then he does, and trust me he is playing to win. End of story. Its a discredit to this great champion to think otherwise.

Great win by the blitzing Klizan, btw. Saw the last set and he blitzed Rafa off the court, conpletely overpowered him. Can’t believe he was a qualifier, didn’t play like one. Don’t see anything that has changed in his game to adjust to the quicker courts of the fall/winter but we’ll see…


Okiegal Says:

I believe with all my heart when Rafa enters a tournament he tries his best to win it…..now he might second guess himself after having not played for awhile because of an injury. He got beat fair and square, Klizan was the better play today. I think he played hard to win, just wasn’t his day. I think all athletes probably have days when their heart’s just not in it….personal reasons or maybe just not feeling well. Match play has to start at some point after an injury, but I wouldn’t call it entering for the practice, he had been working on his game, just not the right wrist. Regarding tanking, don’t see that at all, unless like I stated above, just might be a day on occasion that just not up to the task. I think when his parents divorced was one of those times. I haven’t read his presser yet, but plan to. As I commented in a post above, I didn’t think he had a snowballs chance in hell to win this one……been out too long. If he happens to pull out of any of the future tournaments, that’s his business and I don’t care one way or other. Rafa wants to be 100% and so do I……Aussie Open just around the corner……everyone knows how quick Christmas comes!! Even though Rafa lost today, I’m still optimistic about 2015 for him…..can’t wait!!


jane Says:

skeezer, maybe he’ll go deeper at shanghai?


Daniel Says:

django,

I like Danijel, nice name:-)
Interesting there is a boom in Daniel’s and biblical names in Brazil latelly (last 3 years): a lot of John’s, Peter’s, Luke’s and Paul’s. Wonder if it is happening in other parts of the world as well?!


skeezer Says:

jane,
He should. Needs to serve better….


Hippy Chick Says:

Skeezer i dont make excuses for losses and i never have,like yourself and Okiegal say when he plays he plays to win,and its as i said to you yesterday@12.58pm i too wanted him to win,but i was saying all week i didnt think he would,anyway Klizan played fantastic so congrats to him,and i hope he can back up what he did against Rafa against Berdych….


Hippy Chick Says:

Jane@7.13 pm October 3rd,fair enough and no harm or foul, but its as i said in my post at 4.24pm October 3rd those were your words not mine, there was nothing in any of my earlier posts making excuses about the loss,or saying i was pleased about the loss, but i do feel as though im really wasting my time trying to reason with some people on this rotten bloody forum,anyway good luck to Novak for the final not that he will need it….


jane Says:

hippy i certainly didn’t thikn you were making excuses. no worries.

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