Djokovic v Murray Halloween Friday In Paris; Raonic, Ferrer Fighting For Final London Berth
by Sean Randall | October 30th, 2014, 10:01 pm
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Things went pretty smoothly for the top players today at the Paris Indoors Masters. The final Thursday of the ATP regular season saw veterans Novak Djokovic, Roger Federer, David Ferrer, Tomas Berdych and Andy Murray who blasted Grigor Dimitrov all win rather decisively.

Australian Open Stan Wawrinka, however, fell to Kevin Anderson in a final set breaker. Not a terrible loss – losing to a big man like Anderson indoors – but Wawrinka really hasn’t been much of a factor since last April when he won Monte Carlo, also his last appearance in a final.

“I will have time to rest and practice a lot just to be ready for [London],” lamented Wawrinka. “We need to be fresh and we need to be ready and we need play well from the start and try to get some victories to [advance]. It’s a round robin.

“The good thing is I have experience,” Wawrinka added. “I’ve played this tournament before. I will just concentrate on what I’m doing, and I hope I will be fit to be there.”

In case you are wondering, when Stan’s Australian Open title points come off he’ll likely drop out of the Top 10! Of course he can buffer such a drop in London, but the odds are clearly against hi,

Meanwhile, Djokovic and Federer, who are both battling for the No. 1 ranking, have looked good through two matches. Djokovic started quick against Gael Monfils, then hung on in the end as the Frenchman picked up his game late for a 6-4, 7-6 win.

Federer was business-like beating French qualifier Lucas Pouille 6-4, 6-4. The Swiss has now won his last 14 matches (37 of his last 40) but with Djokovic making the quarters, he’ll have to win Paris to be the top seed in London. First though, attention will be on Milos Raonic tomorrow after the Canadian beat Roberto Bautista Agut to stay alive for London.

“It’s good that I didn’t spend too much energy today,” Federer said. “I’m into the tournament. I think after five sets you more or less know where you’re standing. Milos has a lot in his racquet. I mean, the way he serves, the way he plays after that. It’s a tough match, but I’m looking forward to it. There is a possible semi-final after that for both of us and also the London issue, so it’s more fun.”

If Milos loses to Federer, Ferrer gets that final London berth – Raonic has to go a round further in Paris than Ferrer to take the last spot from the Spaniard.

Ferrer, the 2012 Paris champ, will have his own hands full with Kei Nishikori. I’ve called Kei a more offensive version of Ferrer and with the way he’s been playing – he beat a tough JW Tsonga today – I make him the favorite against David.

Also tomorrow, poor Kevin Anderson. After eliminating Wawrinka his reward is his true boogeyman – somewhat fitting that it’s Halloween – in Tomas Berdych. The Czech has dominated Anderson winning all 11 of their meetings.

And in the marquee match Friday, Djokovic collides with the red hot Andy Murray. Murray has won three titles in the last month or so, so he’s playing his best tennis in well over a year. But with Murray having locked up a London berth as of today, the motivation rests with the Djokovic who’ll want to keep that distance in the No. 1 race.

Djokovic leads Murray 14-8 (6 of the last 7) winning all three this year going 7-1 in sets. So I like Papa Novak here.

Tennis Channel has live coverage starting at 10am ET.

FRIDAY PARIS SCHEDULE

COURT CENTRAL start 2:00 pm
[5] T Berdych (CZE) vs [14] K Anderson (RSA)
Not Before 3:30 pm
[7] M Raonic (CAN) vs [2] R Federer (SUI)
Not Before 7:30 pm
[1] N Djokovic (SRB) vs [8] A Murray (GBR)
Not Before 8:30 pm
[4] D Ferrer (ESP) vs [6] K Nishikori (JPN)


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111 Comments for Djokovic v Murray Halloween Friday In Paris; Raonic, Ferrer Fighting For Final London Berth

Gannu Says:

Not that it matters much to Feddy bear, but here is how the No 1 ranking would play…

** The difference between Feddy bear and Djoker is 490 points now and the diff between winner and finalist in ATP 1000 masters is 400 i.e. winner gets 1000 points and finalist 600 points

** So if Djoker loses before finals AND feddy bear wins then Feddy bear becomes No 1 in RANKING as well as RACE and will be seeded No 1 in Barclays World Tour Finals

** Assuming say Djoker loses the finals and Feddy bear wins, Djoker will be a mere 90 points ahead of Federer. If the otherway round happens then Djoker will go ahead by 890 points!

** Now world tour finals has 3 round robin matches of 200 points each , one semi final of 400 and one final win of 500 taking total tally to 1500 points..

** Scenario 1: Djoker loses finals of paris and Federer wins

In this case, everything rests on how the Barclays tournament plays out…1000 permutations combinations possible

** Scenario 2 Federer loses the final of paris and Djokovic wins

In this case Djoker is 890 points ahead. So what happens is that if Djoker wins 2 round robin matches and reaches the final he gets 800 points and if Feddy bear wins all the way he gets 1500 points. So the gap of 800+890-1500 = 190 can be bridged by winning Davis cup where Feddy can add 225 points. Even if Djokovic wins all the round robin matches and reaches the final – he still locks No 1 for the year as the gap will increase to 390 points.

** Scenario 3: Federer doesn’t reach the paris final – say loses in Semis and Djoker wins the finals

In this case Djoker extends his lead by 490+1000-360 = 1130 points – that’s a lock in for Djoker…As Djoker has to do very badly in World Tour Finals and Federer has to go all the way…

** Scenario 4 Djoker loses in QF to Andy or in Semis and Federer wins the final

In this case Federer will have a lead of -490+1000-180/360 = 330/150 points and again everything will boil down to how Barclays world tour will play…

** Scenario 5: If both Djoker and Federer don’t reach Paris Finals

So again Barclays world tour will decide…but still Djokers 490 point lead will give him a good cushion its equivalent of 2 round robin wins or
one semi final or a final win at the WTF

BOTTOMLINE: Federer has a much tougher route and HAS TO WIN PARIS for him to have a good chance…that isn’t the case with Djoker….Djoker can lose in the QF to Andy and still be in strong contention for being world No 1…

Relax Djoker fans – your man is in a comfortable position… Feddy bear has no choice but to go all the way now! Can he do it? At age 33 looks damn tough….I know he has been defying all odds… but still this is a tough ask…Imagine if it boils down to finals of World Tour Finals and the winner comes out as No 1 – that will be the ultimate fight…I will be there in the O2 to watch that – Irrespective of the outcomes I will die of an heart attack – if Djoker wins I will die of depression and if Fed wins I will die out of ecstasy…hahaha

All the best Feddy bear… exciting time ahead…


Humble Rafa Says:

Murray has won three titles in the last month

LOL.

Take Me Open
Easy Open
Can’t Lose Open


Gannu Says:

HR

I know you are being ridiculed…but despite being an ardent Feddy bear fan i just adore your posts…You are at time brilliant in your posts and sarcasms even if it is directed towards Feddy bear…
Guess others should also take it sportingly…guess they miss the witty humour behind your posts! ;-)


skeezer Says:

Gannu,
Great post, thanks for all the work you put into that!

@HR
Are you still trying to get attention?


Gannu Says:

Thanks Skeezer… hope our man creates magic for one last time again!! ;-)


the DA Says:

“guess they miss the witty humour behind your posts”

That’s because there is a total absence of wit. At best it’s children’s sandbox humor. The poor dear tries so hard though. A- for effort.


jane Says:

thanks gannu for all the details! :)


Margot Says:

@The Da
Lol am beginning to think HR has a real crush on our Andy. Seems a tad obsessed to me. Sad. ;)
All depends on Andy’s serve doesn’t it? If it’s “on” well game on!


Perfect fan Says:

Well! the judgement day has arrived….we vl have our last 8 today for the WTF, most probably.

Here is my take on the final 8 standings for WTF:
1. Nole – vl reach at least the final in bercy
2. Fed
3. Stan
4. Kei – vl reach the semis
5. Andy – goes down to nole
6. Birdy – vl reach the semis
7. Cilic
8. Ferru – milos vl go down to fed, so….

So going by the latest trend in WTF draws as been happening since last 3 years, it vl be like this:

Group A-
1,3,5,7 (nole, stan, andy & cilic)

Group B-
2,4,6,8 (fed, kei, birdy & ferru)

hmmmm….looks quite a balanced draw to me. Both Kei n Berdych could pose threat to fed.

But with all said, this is an assumption that looks quite good on paper, atm….but could change on the completion of each of the 4 matches today.

# BringItOn ;)


the DA Says:

@Margot – HR tries or let’s just say he’s very trying. ;)

As for today’s match (and how apt it falls on Halloween), I have always maintained that if Andy has 65-70% 1st serves it’s difficult to beat him. Yesterday it was around 70% and Dimi barely won any points on Andy’s serve. If he has a good serving day or wins the first set, I think Andy stops the run of losses. Oh and if he has some gas left in the tank. Otherwise, its Nole’s to lose.


the DA Says:

“Group A-1,3,5,7 (nole, stan, andy & cilic)”

Won’t Andy be 4th seed now that Rafa has pulled out? I like the above group though – Andy has a great chance to reach the SF in this group (Stan slumping, dominates H2H with Cilic).


Perfect fan Says:

@ DA,

Andy is currently standing at no. 4 with 4475 pts., and
Kei is standing at no. 5 with 4445 pts.

I m assuming andy loses to nole in the qf at bercy….which freezes his pts at 4475.

Now, I think kei vl def. ferrer in the other qf match….so, he will gain another 180 pts. So even with an addition of 180 pts he leap frogs andy with 4625 pts. If Kei reaches finals or win it all, he could leap frog stan too….but right now, I m assuming his jrny stops at semis with 4625 pts.

So, thats the math behind my predictions….lets see.


steve-o Says:

Best wishes to your aunt, Okiegal.


Perfect fan Says:

What….is everything fine with okiegal’s aunt..?? did I miss anything? somebody..?

But anyways….best wishes from me too, oki. Hoping all’s well or turns out well for the nice lady.


the DA Says:

@Perfect fan – Okay thanks. Here’s another semi-puzzling situation. I read somewhere that the WTF points players gained from last year will drop off before this year’s event. Doesn’t that shake things up further? I’m confused tbh.


Giles Says:

If that happens fed might regain #1 for a week. I think ….


Giles Says:

PS. Or two


Tennislover Says:

the DA – The WTF is a special event restricted to only the top players of the calender year or season who qualify based on the ATP race position at the end of the regular season. The regular ATP season ends after Bercy. The WTF is the only event which is normally not subject to the 52 week rolling system unless other regular events’ usual dates/schedules in the atp calender are changed. Since the WTF is an additional 19th event in the concerned players’ rankings and only a few players have this privilege, it only makes sense to drop off last year’s wtf points once the current year’s regular season gets over. Otherwise, this season’s best performers could potentially get ‘penalized’ when it comes to deciding who qualifies and with what ranking/seeding at this year’s wtf. This system ensures that there is no influence whatsoever of any points earned last year on the qualification/seeding for this year’s wtf. I hope I have clarified it and not left you more confused.


Perfect fan Says:

@ tennislover, nicely put.

Cheers!! :)


the DA Says:

@Tennislover – Thanks for taking the time to reply. I understand the status of the WTF and why the points should drop off. I’m just confused whether it impacts their seeding before the event (e.g. Nole has 1500 from last year). Does that make sense?


Daniel Says:

Giles,

Indeed if Fed wins Paris and Djoko poses before final Federer will ne back to Number 1 at ATP and Race at least for 2 weeks u til end of London. Djokcan regain #1 there and be YE#1. Just for him to get back at #1 with 33 would be an achievement in itself.

In the meantime Berduch qualifiex for London with Semifinal berth beating yet again Anderson.

Onto Fed x Raonic and Raonic hopes to stay in. If Raonic loses, Nishikori qualifies and Ferrer qualifies automatically. Only the order will be changed depending on players results.


youyong Says:

What is the scenario for Kei not to make the WTF? Am just hoping he makes it. Is the only scenario for that to happen is for Raonic to win the title and Kei loses today?


Tennis Fan Says:

Raonic needs a breakthrough today to get the experience of playing in London for next years Slam Victory. Really important day for him out there today. If he beat Federer you would see a different player going forward.


andrea Says:

the plot thickens. raonic takes first set.


Giles Says:

“next year’s slam victory” Lol Lol


Daniel Says:

Fed c’mon to set set point but Raonic aced


Daniel Says:

Depends on Ferrer result as well. if Ferrer or Raonic loses Kei is in.

Raonic just broke Fed with an amazing passing shot for a guy his height. Will serve for the match!


Daniel Says:

Fed going down will open door for Djoko which also will add extra pressure in his match against Murray. It will be funny if joke is to lose as well:-)
Hope Raonic goes all the way and qualify now. And Ferrer to lose.


Daniel Says:

Kei can lose as long as Ferrer doesn’t reach finals.


Daniel Says:

With this win if Ferer loses Raonic is in. Kei versus Ferer may define the last spot.
IF Kei wins Ferrer is out.

With the way Ronic played today I hope Ferrer is out and Raonic in. Great result for him if he qualifies and this Fed win may boost his results for next year.

As for Fed, it all depends on Djoko and Murray. But if Djoko is to lose he still has shot in London and he has DC as well. This 2 days more to rest may be a blessing for him right now.


andrea Says:

wow. congrats to raonic for his first ever victory over roger! that should pump him up. always tough for me to pick sides in this match up as a canadian/swiss, but milos was long overdue for a win over a top player.


Brando GOAT poster Says:

As I said earlier in the week: Paris and WTF will be tough for Fed to maintain his winning streak since they are rather slow surfaces which are a tough out for him now. Today he loses in straight sets v a big serving and hitting player. Cannot say I am surprised. Advantage Novak now for YE race: he can put matters at a rest or close to it with a big performance here. As for Fed? As I have also said all year: the fact he’s still relevant- and not in polite terms- at age 33 is a huge achievement IMO. So I doubt he’ll be downbeat whatever happens. He never really is anyhow.


Ben Pronin Says:

Paris and WTF aren’t slow, the bounce is just a little higher than it used to be.


Steve 27 Says:

Better servebot of the 2 won today. At least the french crowd is crying so not everything is lost. Glad Raonic to save tennis today.
Vamos Milos!


brando GOAT poster Says:

To me it seems relatively slow compared to Basel at least. More extended rallies, more grinders than big hitters succeeding etc. WTF especially has seemed slow to me in the past.


Hippy Chick Says:

Congrats to Raonic for a great win,hope he can back it up now against Berdych,Roger can get ready for the WTFs,which hes won six times,so i doubt he will worry too much over this loss….


Polo Says:

Debate over.


Hippy Chick Says:

Come on Andy,do your best,whatever happens youve done your bit and qualified,maybe you can relax a bit now that pressures off you,and just play your best tennis,but please none of the irritating hugs at the net,buisness like hand shakes will do fine,especially if you want to turn this rivalry round in your favour,you need to distance yourself from your friendships with your rivals….


skeezer Says:

Wow Roanic! 20+ aces. He had an unbeatable inside out FH today. It was the difference today along with his serve. Just simply the better man today. Hope he continues to play this well.


leo Says:

Congrats to Milos on a big win.

Rest up, Rog… you will need it for the rest of the season. Vamos champ!


Daniel Says:

5 ppints and Murray already made 3 UE and serving middle of the net. Difference of playing someone you ‘fear’ or ‘respect’ more


Gee Says:

Clowns screamed “genius fed” despite his easy draws all year. Even with his ego, his matches were mediocre. Yet, he couldn’t get lucky again against the journeyman raonic.
Chardy & Simon weren’t solid servers in paris. Ferrer is far superior to the Frenchmen. That’s why he won paris with an inconsistent serve. Fed is not the best player, let alone in the top 5 vicinity of best player ever. He’s lucky that nadal was in bad shape, emotionally & physically for 4 years since 2003.
Lmao at the fed fans’ excuses.
Lol at the slow court excuses. He’s lucky that overrated roddick & hewitt sucked badly on clay & indoor courts and that djoker & nadal were not good in 2006-7.


Daniel Says:

Great hold for Murray saving 2 BP’s


Giles Says:

Well, well, well. That was a shock win for Raonic.


steve-o Says:

Congrats to Raonic! He played great. Hope he can keep it up and qualify for London.

As for Federer, he’s got a bit of extra rest now before London and DC. Congrats on a great three weeks, champ!


Perfect fan Says:

I had doubts on fed right from the 1st match in paris….but what a performance by raonic today. I am utterly amazed by the transition raonic has brought into his game. Earlier he was like a bazooka equipped rocket-man….but now he has almost everything in his kitty. He is moving fluent, great forehand esp. the CC which literally tore apart fed’s game tonight.

I m not gutted with fed’s loss here, rather I m happy he got the much needed break to recover and get ready for the wtf and the DC. I wud rly love him to do well in these 2 events.

On another note, I think fed’s loss here has put to rest the debate on YEN1, irrespective of nole’s perf at bercy. Even 500 points shall be too tough to cover up from here. IMO, this is a done deal.


Hippy Chick Says:

Murray is doing his best to hang with Novak,whom is clearly the better player,big serving ATM to save BPs from Novak….


Hippy Chick Says:

Perfect Fan probably one match too far for Roger,Milos is one of the up and coming players to watch out for(although ill be the first to admit that his style leaves me a bit cold),but certainly no disgrace,Rogers had an amazing few weeks….


Ben Pronin Says:

Djokovic 17/20 first serve points won and Murray 14/15. Murray just isn’t putting in enough first serves, though. But like I said, the surface isn’t slow. Raonic’s 21 aces, which is 10.5 per set (insane) is a testament to that as well.


Perfect fan Says:

wow….what a terrific match going on between the two baseline warriors.

Hitting corner to corner, painting the lines, and esp. the BH to BH 10+ rallies has been mesmerizing….almost identical. Lovin’ it.

The first set goes to Nole….hoping andy takes the 2nd to force a decider. Great match so far.


Hippy Chick Says:

Novak played the big points better,i just Andy doesnt just fall apart….


Daniel Says:

What turn of events, thought Djoko would break at 1-0 and Now Murray is serving 2-1.


Daniel Says:

Murray struggled in almost all his service games. Seems a little impatient now. Maybe too much tennis is catching up to him.
He qualified, better beat Djoko in 2 weeks in London.


Hippy Chick Says:

Perfect Fan all in danger of turning into a damp squib now,after such a great first set,agree with Daniel i think Murray needs a rest,too much tennis has caught up with him….


Tennis Fan Says:

Giles Says: About Raonic
“next year’s slam victory” Lol Lol

Just you wait Giles … I will reprint this here at that time …


Daniel Says:

Damm, Djoko won last 5 games breaking Andy 3 times.

Hope for a Djoko x Kei rematch of US Open. Djoko looking good for another masters and virtually sealing YE#1.

It would be greta for him win his first tourney as a dad.

If Kei beats Ferrer, London players define with Raonic entering.


Wog Boy Says:

Not a bad day in office for Tata Nole:)


Margot Says:

Congrats to Nole. Will end the year as a well deserved No 1 :)


Hippy Chick Says:

Well done Novak when he plays like that hes too good,after a promising first set from Andy,it all became one sided and rather dissapointing as a contest.
Andy hasnt beaten Novak since he beat him at Wimbledon,the rivalry is becoming one sided now,where at one point they seemed so evenly matched….


Wog Boy Says:

@Margot,
To early for that conclusion, it is not over until the fat lady sings, closer yes but still lot of work to be done to secure #1 spot.
BTW, thank you Milos:)


Hippy Chick Says:

I hope Kei does beat Ferrer,as i think Kei v Novak would be a more interesting match,Ferrer folds like a napkin against the elite players,congrats Novak on sealing the number 1 ranking,IMO the most deserving player got it fair and square….


Hippy Chick Says:

Wogboy not quite,but he would have to be the favorite,one would think :))….


Wog Boy Says:

HC, favorite yes, but beeing Nole fan is not an easy thing:)


skeezer Says:

Tata? ;)

Tata is back in form…his mind seems back in the warrior mode…congrats!


brando GOAT poster Says:

Well done nole! Tour is close to getting the right year end no1, a slam winner who meritously took the no1 rank from rafa by winning majors, not some backdoor ranking opportunity arising since the top dog is awol. Seal it when you want nole it well be well deserved!


brando GOAT poster Says:

Andy: 4 losses in a row to nole, 9/10 sets lost = he needs a new game plan, tactic since if he wants majors in 2015 beating the likes of nole is a must. He needs to beat Fed or nole in wtf for 2015 confidence imo.


skeezer Says:

So your saying if Fed won the #1 ranking by the current rule it would have been “back door”.And the insinuation that ” some backdoor ranking opportunity arising since the top dog is awol.”

Guess Nole’s achievements don’t count either this fall, after all, the “top dog” has been a no show.
Crock.


Giles Says:

Does this mean Tata to fed and his #1 ranking? Oh dear! Never mind fed, next time. Lol


skeezer Says:

It’s amazing that Fed, will more than likely wind up with the #2 best player in the world, @ 33. Yes, amazing. He is competing against the very best players in the world in their prime age.
I am more than happy if he ends the year @ #2. No other player from here on out is going to have such a higher ranking @ 33. Its unbelievably amazing that Fed had a very great chance to compete for the #1 ranking at 33.
And yes, it appears, for Fed that is, age has been just a number.


FedExpress Says:

I thought the WTF is next week but it isnt. Fed u could have won then. Milos was on fire. I desperatl awating thr cilic fed match


jane Says:

commies to margot, da, and cdp. andy’s had a streak of wins just lately, racking up titles on the way and improving his ranking. now he will rest up for his deserved spot in london.

happy for nole, obviously, as he’s had stiff competition after a life-changing break: kohls, monf, and andy today, who played a great first set but was probably out of gas by the second even though he did go up a break early on.

not sure how much more nole would have to do to lock up #1, as i suck at math, but winning it all won’t be easy – still some tough outs in the draw, with kei, ferru, berd, and milos.

oh and congrats to milos on his first win over fed methinks?

if nole wins it all, then he can tell baby stefan, “we’ll always have paris” or “here’s looking at you, kid.” ;)


Giles Says:

October 31st 5.11 pm. Yeah yeah, console yourself. You should have a good might’s sleep this way. Lol


jane Says:

yes, skeezer, but maybe an even more important goal for fed than #1 is dc? after all, he’s already passed sampras’ weeks at number 1. but his team has yet to win that dc title.


the DA Says:

@Jane – thanks. It was a great run, enjoyed every minute – even the agonizing ones ;) I think it all caught up with him. He was trying to pull the trigger too early and missing plus 49% 1st serves just won’t cut it against Nole.

Congrats on your boy just about sealing up the YE #1 spot. The WTF should be very interesting this year. Some are slumping or burned out while others are surging. Intriguing.

Meanwhile, this Ferru-Nishikori match is bizarre. Nobody wants to hold.


rogerafa Says:

That was an important win for Milos. Tomas did well to beat Kevin too. Novak was rock solid and his focus rarely wavered. Andy did not have a great serving day but showed a lot of fight before fading in the second set. It appears difficult to hit through the court on this surface. The courts here used to be much quicker before they slowed it down two years ago. London has never been fast and I can easily see a Novak-Andy final there. Andy would prefer a faster surface against Novak who is very good across all surfaces but great on the slower ones. I think both of them would prefer a slow surface against the rest of the likely WTF field. This sticky Paris surface seems tailor-made for Novak and Rafa who missed a great opportunity to do well here.


Gee Says:

Thi Tm
I see many different Novak fans. Not just teens & Serbs. Too bad for the haters! He’s still entertaining & improved his game no matter how frustrating his losses were! He never screamed foul language at opponents or ridicule the character & game of anyone, unlike roger. True champ nole!


Wog Boy Says:

Who ever wins this one will be pretty tired tomorrow night, you reckon?


Okiegal Says:

@Perfect fan

Thanks for asking about my Aunt, colon cancer surgery. She’s up an around today, so happy for that. Waiting for pathology report regarding the lymph nodes. Keeping my fingers crossed!


Brando GOAT poster Says:

Well done Kei! What a fighter he’s turning out to be! Never say die! A set down, 2-5 in tie breaker looking set to be out as he’s 2 point away and boom: he turns it all around! Brilliant, brilliant player and completely deserving of a place in the WTF! Nole is the MVP of 2014: but for this poster Kei Nishikori is the most improved and biggest story of the year. What a breakthrough, banner year: USO finalist, Madrid finalist, WTF qualification on merit, winning run post USO, win in Barcelona Open on the clay, major wins v Slam winners this year: Djokovic, Wawrinka etc and playing a brand of fearless, aggressive Tennis. Wow: a real sensation. A future Grand Slam Champion for sure IMO if fitness permits. As for Kei v Novak? I think Kei may be worn out, on a high after this one so he may have a letdown. Despite that: I predict a win for Novak with Kei faring better than Andy: wins a set possibly and will at a stretch be the dominant player in the match. For me: he’s the real deal!


Brando GOAT poster Says:

Well done to Milos also for his debut qualification. Commiseration to the road runner that is Ferrer: great guy and competitor but it was not meant to be I guess. The field is set: Djokovic, Federer, Cilic, Murray, Nishikori, Wawrinka, Raonic, Berdych. At first glance barring Wawa and Tomas all the others could cause a upset win and a run of note. Prediction: Novak wins with possibly Murray, Kei and Cilic causing a party crashing storm.


Brando GOAT poster Says:

@Okiegal: I am genuinely sorry to hear about your Aunt’s situation Okie. I send her best wishes and hope that she receives some good news in her report. Remember that old saying: through hardship there is eventually ease. I hope it is for her and that she overcomes this matter to being of good health. All the best!


Humble Rafa Says:

Canadia Times:

Canadia declared a national holiday tomorrow to celebrate the triumph of good over bad.


Wog Boy Says:

It is strangely quiet on TX today compare to last couple of weeks, I wonder why?;)


Tennis Fan Says:

I’m Canadian and must admit that Federer is obviously the best player that ever graced a court. In spite of that Raonic played a perfect match today and deserved to play the best in the final 8. Getting sick in Shanghai almost finished his chances. It will be fun to see him get his first Slam next year.


Humble Rafa Says:

It is strangely quiet on TX today compare to last couple of weeks, I wonder why?;)

They are all attending a funeral to celebrate the life of their God.


Okiegal Says:

@Brando GOAT poster

Thanks a bunch for the well wishes for her. She’s an amazing lady. She retired at 79 yrs of age after working 46 years at our county courthouse. She retired in 2013 to get sick!! She is doing better today…..Thanks again!!


skeezer Says:

“It is strangely quiet on TX today compare to last couple of weeks, I wonder why?;)

They are all attending a funeral to celebrate the life of their God.”

You mean Rafa right?

:-)


Daniel Says:

Jane,

I also think DC is main goal for Fed nos. But YE#1 would have him tieing Sampras in 6 finishes, a record Sampras stands alone, think the noy one Federer didn’t passed or tied. Sampras must be relieved and glad now;-)

Stillalot to e done for Novak ans beating Kei tomorrow is a must for him. Can’t see him losimg final to Bberdych, maybe Raonic if he serves like he did today. So hoping for Raonic to beat Berdych and Djoko to beat Kei. Love Kei’s game but he must be tired and the match with Djoko has potentail to be another long one. The bounce really looks different this time. The balls are shpuld high and that allowed girnders to retrieve almoat anything. Ferrer won a bunch of points where Kei just couldn’t hit throguh him and Murray and Djoko played a alot of the “usual” long rallies. Hope London is faster as previous years.


madmax Says:

17.49 A sensational performance against the Swiss who didn’t play badly at all. Is this enough to get Raonic to London? He held his nerve and overcame a few blips in the match like a seasoned pro.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/tennis/rogerfederer/11200662/Roger-Federer-vs-Milos-Raonic-Paris-Masters-as-it-happened.html

Exactly right. How can a close score line like 7 (6) 7 (5) be a blow out for Fed? An amazing performance, some great, great tennis.

Federer has played incredibly during this year already.

I remember last year when a lot of people, (mostly Giles), were saying that Fed had only qualified for WTF because of Rafa’s inability to play tournaments or his injuries, (more excuses) and so Fed benefited from this.

Not a word about Murray into the WTF, of course that had nothing to do with Rafa hAving yet another injury.

I am so pleased that AM has made it. For many of the UK fans, it will be a dream come true to see him there, not just for London, the city and its’ people with good old Boris, Terry Wogan, Gordon Ramsey, “the Londonians” banging the drum for Andy. He really does deserve to still be in contention.

Giles, you have a very, VERY short memory. How sad for you that your best shot each and every time is to get pleasure from Fed losing a match. Sad is what you are.

If Fed is able to clinch end of year, No.1 it will be a bonus. Not the be all and end all.

Can’t imagine how tired his legs must be after all the match play in the recent tournaments.

Proud to be a fed fan!


skeezer Says:

@wog boy 9:34

When greatness is always accepted, there is usually no need of debate. Thus the quietness. This is where Nole is, ….greatness. His consistency is proven in his ranking. Whereas others, who are always giving excuses why they are as great, are always claiming idiotic conspiracies and whatnot excuses why their fav is not in the competition.
In Tennis, fitness, health and talent are the key elements. You need to pay attention and work hard towards all these elements for greatness to pay off.
Greatness needs no explanation nor excuses. Players like Nole and Fed have never needed it.


Wog boy Says:

@skeezer,

Thanks for reply, it was just friendly, fan dig, and BTW, you are always here, win or lose.
Race for #1 is far from over, Nole is only 670 points ahead minus 150 points from last year DC final, that is not much.


Margot Says:

@madmax 11.20pm
Thank you for that :)
Andy has achieved his goal and I am very proud. It has been an amazing 6 weeks.


Polo Says:

Andy and Roger have been playing a lot recently. A little break is in order. Good luck to both of them at the year end championship…and the Davis Cup for Roger.


Wog Boy Says:

Andy played a lot but Roger played only one match more than Nole, Shanghai final. Nole played Beijing and won, Roger played Basel and won, they played Shanghai and now Paris and that is about it since USO, have I missed something (DC SF was easy peasy for Roger)?


madmax Says:

Margot, it’s not always been easy between you and I, however, Andy made it and I know you are his biggest fan, so for you, am happy that you are happy. He has had a lot of bad press from the critics, unfairly so in my view and I have not, at the start been one of the AM fans, as you well know. However, there is something a bit more warm about him these days, I have been watching too many of the AM short films he has been making and actually, he does have a great movie voice, don’t you think? He is trying really hard to overcome his “boring” persona. A bit like giles really.

It’s all fair and square and certainly it did not suit Andy to be number 10 in he rankings. It just goes to show how a few poorly played tournaments can affect a player so quickly.

Fed was no. 8 last year, and I think Andy was no. 2? So things are looking up for both players.

I would not be surprised at all if Andy reached the finals. He has had to prove himself all over again. I wonder if Amelie is still working with him?

As Skeezer says, the greats don’t make excuses. They just get on and play.


Giles Says:

madmax. You sure do like typing my name don’t you? Lol
You were talking about Andy and then you thought of me. How sweet! Are you sure you don’t have a crush on me? :)


mat4 Says:

Hi, everyone. Glad to read you.

@Daniel: Paris and London are played on the same surface, if I remember well. From the comments of the players it seems that, while the surface doesn’t slow down the serve and flat shots, it impacts and slows down spin tremendously. So it favours powerful players, or players with a flat FH.


Margot Says:

@giles
Lol but I think Andy prefers sushi!
@madmax
Amelie is still working with Andy. She was court side in Paris.
I do hope she can encourage Andy to come forward and attack more. He is a natural at the net and does well there.


Wog Boy Says:

Hi mat4,

No predictions, please..

Paris and London are different surfaces and speed:

Paris Masters Gerflor Masters Speed-Category 4: Medium-fast

ATP World Tour Finals Greenset Grand Prix Cushion Speed-Category 3: medium

Paris and Shanghai are same speed but differen bounce, Shanghai uses DecoColor and bounce is low (suits Roger), Paris bounce is high.


Daniel Says:

Thanks Wog Boy, that was my impression too: Paris bounce is high, way high.


Okiegal Says:

I haven’t watched the replay of Fed and Milos. Was Fed just aced out of his tracks like what Kyrgios did to Rafa? I don’t think Milos had as many aces against Fed as the “Kid” did. Was wondering what happened, I chose Fed to win Paris…..wrong again!!


jane Says:

okie, good to hear your auntie is doing better; all the best to you and her.

daniel, pete’s not out of the woods yet but i hope nole can get him there. ;)


jane Says:

p.s. hello mat4: hope all is well.


Giles Says:

C’mon Betdy!


Giles Says:

*Berdy* ^


Giles Says:

Berdy is such a letdown. Handed him the match!


Polo Says:

Not totally unexpected result from Berdych.


Okiegal Says:

@Jane…..Thanks for your concern. Appreciate it so much!!


Okiegal Says:

@Steve o

Thanks for the concern of my Aunt. She is better today for which I’m very grateful. I appreciate your well wishes….Thanks again!!

Back to tennis…..can Milos git r done?? I don’t think so, Stefan’s daddy will be the champion again!!

@Jane……Good luck to Novak!! Hope your guy wins this!

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