Djokovic v Nishikori, Federer v Wawrinka; ATP Finals SF Picks And Pans
by Sean Randall | November 14th, 2014, 5:30 pm
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And after six days of uninspiring round robin play, we’ve cut the field of eight in half. No shock that the top two, Novak Djokovic and Roger Federer, are in the mix but a bit of a surprise to see Stan Wawrinka and Kei Nishikori still on the final weekend.

Warwinka stumbled and bumbled toward the event losing four of five matches leading up, while Nishikori had to beat and did beat home favorite Andy Murray in his Sunday opener. So credit to both guys, though Saturday they’ll have their work cut out for them against two very, very hot and primed eager champions who ripped through the first week without dropping a set.

The standard bearer, Federer has won this event six times and after humiliating Murray on Wednesday, has to be pleased about where his game is at.

As good as Roger may feeling, Djokovic probably feels even better. Through three matches, the 2-time defending champion who just clinched No. 1 lost just nine total games. And he’s won 30 straight matches indoors including 13 straight at the ATP Finals.

So the semifinals are set, it’s Djokovic-Nishikori and Federer-Warwinka.

Novak Djokovic v Kei Nishikori
Kei’s certainly playing well but I just don’t see how he stops Djokovic here. Not with the way Novak’s been playing the last month or so. Djokovic’s post-baby Paris domination has continued this week, and yesterday he blew out Tomas Berdych.

Ok, the win over Berdych was to be expected, as was the Cilic victory, but he crushed Stan and two weeks ago didn’t lose a set in Paris. So no matter how you slice, he’s the best player on the planet right now.

Nishikori won’t be scared, though. He impressively overwhelmed Murray last Sunday, then lost to Federer but managed to rebound in three against Ferrer in a tricky one.

And Kei has beaten Novak twice. Of course at this past US Open in a stunner and also three years ago indoors in Basel when Novak’s shoulder flared up.

“It’s obvious that he’s experiencing the best season of his life,” Djokovic said. “He’s top 5 of the world. He’s playing some great tennis. He’s one of the quickest players around. Deservedly he’s in semifinals only on his debut. I expect a tougher match than it was in Paris, that’s for sure. But, again, the conditions indoor and outdoor, where I lost to him in US Open, are quite different. I’m feeling pretty confident playing now, as well as he. So it’s going to be a good, high class tennis.”

And with the No. 1 ranking wrapped up, maybe Djokovic let’s down? I highly doubt that. The eye test points to Djokovic here, and that’s what I see.
The pick: Djokovic in two

Roger Federer v Stan Warwinka
A week for their massive Davis Cup duel against France, these two mates meet for a 17th time with Federer having won 14 of them. Stan broke a 12-match losing streak to Roger in Monte Carlo this year, then Roger got some revenge at Wimbledon.

“I’d love to play against Stan here in the semis,” Federer said on Thursday. “It would be historic for us to make it for a second consecutive year into the semis. If we play each other, it’s a good thing that one of us is going to go to the finals.”

First, credit to Stan for returning to the semifinals, though, let’s be honest he got a lot of help with Cilic who kind of gagged today and Berdych for barely showing up in London. But I don’t see how he takes out Federer here.

Roger hasn’t dropped a set and since the US Open loss to Cilic has really been pretty sharp, day-in and day-out. He’s had some bad patches but I don’t think Stan will be able to take advantage of those lulls indoors.
The pick: Federer in two

Unfortunately, the matches will not be live on ESPN2 Saturday, but they will be streamed live on ESPN3.com.

SATURDAY ATP FINALS SCHEDULE
AFTERNOON SESSION
DOUBLES / 12:00 PM
L KUBOT/R LINDSTEDT VS I DODIG/M MELO
SINGLES / 02:00 PM
DJOKOVIC VS NISHIKORI

EVENING SESSION
DOUBLES / 06:00 PM
J BENNETEAU/ E ROGER-VASSELIN VS BRYAN/BRYAN
SINGLES / 08:00 PM
FEDERER VS WAWRINKA


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224 Comments for Djokovic v Nishikori, Federer v Wawrinka; ATP Finals SF Picks And Pans

michael Says:

Sean may be right this time unless there is an earth quake which is a remote possibility.


skeezer Says:

I am picking Stan & Kei.


Michael Says:

Skeezer – Are you really serious ????


Michael Says:

Well, Kei and Stan are very good players and therefore there is always a room for upset. But what discounts this possibility is the fact that Novak and Roger are playing near their best and unless there is a serious dip in their form, they should be through. Ofcourse Tennis is an incredibly tough sport and there is always a possibility of your game turning erratic once in a while and so you should always give room in your calculations where there is no certainity.So, there is some degree of possibility of one upset happening. But two on a trot is a bit too much in my opinion !! If it happens, I will be nastily shocked and only begin to appreciate the Sport for what it offers – a bag full of surprises which you never expect. That is the strength of the sport which ignites spectator interest and curiousity. Where there is certainity, there is no curiosity or interest. As simple as that !!


Brando GOAT poster Says:

This seems such a dead certainty, almost written in stone that a surprise happening would not be out of touch with this years fiasco in big matches between supposed favourites and minnow players. Fed and Nole in 2 has to be the pick, but who knows what could unfold. I don’t think Kei has much left in the tank now to trouble Nole so I cannot see a upset there. Wawrinka has the power and aggression to do so but is very streaky right now to pick. Fed and Nole in 2 will probably be the eventual outcome.


Polo Says:

I remember the last US Open semifinals where Djokovic and Federer both played.


Giles Says:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-30051597
Huh! WTF getting from bad to worse!
JINXED!!


gannu Says:

is anyone from here going to be there
at the O2? I am there for both the semis
and finals…
all the best feddy bear..
a djoker vs fed would be absolute classic final!!


brando GOAT poster Says:

Excellent, must read article on Andy Murray with McEnroe, wilander and Henman giving their views of his game: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/tennis/30062845. Really agree- as I have been saying for a long while now- that he looks tactically clueless on court v the big boys, does far too much running to not dictating play, has obvious serving issues and that mauresmo as a coach may be a bad idea. Disappointed to see his schedule leading up to AO: IPTL, Abu Dhabi and Hopman Cup- 3 exhibition events and then a Slam. He really needs to have reappraisal over everything since the gap between him and the top 3 is colossal right now. Apologies about the derailing of the thread but I think it’s a interesting read, musing over to enjoy.


Mr. Larvey Says:

Just opened the TV and saw BB in the crowds. In the beginning of the year there were lots of talk how BB has a bad influence on Nole’s game. Haven’t seen that kind of talk lately…

Who knows, maybe Nole would have had even more dominant season if Vaida were still touring with him more regularily.


FedExpress Says:

That BP showed how slow the court is. Band this court. Nishi couldnt play the point better but of the slowness nole retireved allt he balls. on any other court there would have been winners. shame.


Mr. Larvey Says:

Quite onesided affair so far. 4-1 for Djoker. I hope that Nishi can make this interesting at least for a while…


Mr. Larvey Says:

I’m not a big fan of his slow courts either. Of course it’s nice to see long rallies but it’s a shame that there are basically no winners… Indoors should be faster in my opinion!


FedExpress Says:

double break. i dont care now watching. this isnt tennis anymore


FedExpress Says:

hope fed or wawrinka thrashes nole. this is just insane that nobody competes tough with nole nowadays apart from nadal.


brando GOAT poster Says:

23 minutes and another one sided set. Own up: who’s cursed this event since is just ridiculous. Nole is efficient and kei is not helping his cause by making bad shot selection. Both seem poor at the net with some ridiculous misses!


FedExpress Says:

what a retirving event. u cant have service winners. u cant hit aces. whats a point for having such event


Mr. Larvey Says:

It would have been interesting to see Rafa in this tournament. I think that he would have enjoyed the high and slow bounche of these courts. I’m actually a bit surprised that Fed has been this solid so far. Faster courts would suit his game so much better. Anyhow, difficult to see how anyone could beat Nole here. It just seems to be impossible to hit a winner against him.


Polo Says:

FedExpress, didn’t Federer bear Djokovic only recently in Beijing?


FedExpress Says:

noles moonballing at his best


Polo Says:

“beat”


brando GOAT poster Says:

@fedexpress: nadal and Federer are the only 2 who can compete, beat novak. Don’t care what others say but: the field on tour is weak right now. This event has shown there is a colossal gap between 2/3 on tour and the rest. The hyperbole does not stand up in face of the reality of the matter: 3 giants and a bunch who well below them with the odd surprise result from them. Poor, poor stuff IMO when you consider 2 of 3 are either old or injury prone.


FedExpress Says:

@polo

he beat him in shanghai. court was much faster whicht suits federer

slow courts like Miami, IW, etc. are noles tourneys


Polo Says:

Nishikori is a very good player but he is overrated.


FedExpress Says:

@polo

isnt overrated. only from the younger generation i really can see multiple GSs

dimitrov is overrated.


FedExpress Says:

hahahahaha
nole broke himself with a DF

think wawrinka and federer will have a chance


brando GOAT poster Says:

Am I being too critical in saying nole is playing efficiently well as ever but kei is operating at a poor level. So strange this event since Fed and nole can and do play much better but the rest are poor!


brando GOAT poster Says:

Crowd starting on nole and he double faults ala nadal match at FO. I think crowds can bother nole.


brando GOAT poster Says:

And now He’s making errors too. EVERY player should use the crowd against nole: get it raucous and he can be bothered by it.


FedExpress Says:

still i cant believe how fed lost to nole at the WTF 2012. had the crowd on his side. break up in both sets. saved a SP in the first breaker with a beauty of a BH half volley winner. had two SPs in the 2nd. why has fed so many lapses against Nole see US open 2010,11. even AO 08 where he served for the first set or 11 where he served for the second set.


Polo Says:

FedExpress, agree about Dimitrov. I really doubt that Nishikori will be a multi-slam winner. I see him as a more skilled version of his coach, Michael Chang. His size is a liability. As long as Djokovic is around and if Nadal comes back in full health, it will be tough for Nishikori for at at least the next few years that the former 2 remain active. After then maybe, but by that time, somebody big and strong may come along. And don’t forget Ken’s propensity for injuries.


FedExpress Says:

WHAT.A.WINNER

take a bow

nole cant and never will hit such winners


brando GOAT poster Says:

Kei has excellent technique on his dtl strokes, very strong on that front.


Polo Says:

Of the top 3 (yes, the Big 4 no longer exists), Dojokovic is the only one whose game can be affected by the crowd.


FedExpress Says:

@polo

dont forget he the 11 US open SF thanks to the crowd, clapping sarcastically


FedExpress Says:

WHAT A LUCKER NOLE IS.


Polo Says:

I’m not currently watching the match. I find Tennis-x much more interesting than this WTF. The exchanges here are more fiery.


FedExpress Says:

why does kei always go back behind nole?


FedExpress Says:

kei in playstation mode now


FedExpress Says:

the net cord saved nole from beim BPs down


Polo Says:

Well, Djokovic, in 2011 had the “luckiest” shot in the history of tennis then. That was a winner return by Nole, so he can hit stinging winners, too.


FedExpress Says:

GOAT serving from nishi now

how is his record in deciding sets. 20-2 and one of them was the madrid final loss


Okiegal Says:

It’s like I have been saying for months, these young guys can’t cut the mustard on a consistent basis…..and until they can, the top three will always be there, on top!!


brando GOAT poster Says:

Kei a lot more stable. Composed and Novak looking subdued, more errors leaking. Kei needs to pounce now.


brando GOAT poster Says:

Trainer on for lei.


FedExpress Says:

wow.playstation


brando GOAT poster Says:

KEIII!!!!!!


FedExpress Says:

just just wooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwww


brando GOAT poster Says:

Kei wins the set!


FedExpress Says:

6-3 nishi

so when someone believes he can actually beat nole. belief is everything.


brando GOAT poster Says:

London crowd like new York in September: pro and enthusiastic for kei and its affecting the match. Kei also winning the long rallies in that set: he’s got the goods to win this one.


FedExpress Says:

@polo

this is why kei isnt overrated


michael Says:

The excitement, anxiety, thrill that was lacking in round robin stages is back. All credit to Kei who is taking Novak to the edge of precipice and has taken him the distance.


FedExpress Says:

1 Bp left for nishi
no first serves for nole

nole got lucky big time

dont let him off the hook like fed in the fifth did


brando GOAT poster Says:

Kei let him off the hook there as nole was clearly on the ropes, bigand costly miss there.


FedExpress Says:

nishi lost the match in the first game of the 3rd set


Michael Says:

Kei had two break points in the first game of the third set, but he couldn’t convert and paid the price with momentum shifting in favour of Novak who is the greatest counter puncher.


Michael Says:

That is the difference between a good player and a great player.


FedExpress Says:

that first hold from nole was a joke. he moved like crap.


Michael Says:

Still I believe Kei has a chance. All that he needs to do is to believe in himself.


FedExpress Says:

what a meltdown from nishi

mental game


Michael Says:

It is all over. Novak is in the finals unless a miracle intervenes.


Daniel Says:

Kei throwing his racquet out of frustration. He had the momentum in the start of thors set after being 15-40 and missed tow balls int he net. Now risk of getting a bagel.


Daniel Says:

What a winner frm Djoko crosscorit FH. Amazing angle and speed.


FedExpress Says:

waw/fed has to beat nole for the sake of tennis. this is just miserable.


skeezer Says:

Class by Nole not celebrating after double fault on match point. You can see Kei wanting to break through but his mental toughness lacks experience at this level. Its all good, if he keeps playing these top guys, he’ll get it.


Nikola Says:

FedExpress Says:

waw/fed has to beat nole for the sake of tennis. this is just miserable.

U forgot to take your pills today?


Daniel Says:

Well at leas he for a brief moment took Novak to “normal” levels. Too many errors and he couldn’t hang.

Djoko in yet another final and latelly(after US Open 13′) he’s being killer in those winning all excpet RG. Actually his last two final loses came to Nadal.

Hope Whoever swiss that wins totday can fight pretty hard tomorrow as it looks like Djoko will end another year on a high with 7 titles and another record of his own shared with Lendl: 3 straight WTF titles having 4 total.


Michael Says:

What promised to be a thriller has ended in quite a dismal fashion with a bagel inflicted by Novak leaving Kei bruised. So, the one sided pattern in this tournament continues much to the detriment of spectator interest.


FedExpress Says:

i hope fed spoils the party as nole did in 2012 where fed was going for his 3rd WTF in a row


FedExpress Says:

can any1 tell the song which play everytime at the WTF


skeezer Says:

@FE,
You have some fans saying that very same thing when Fed was dominating the tour, just sayin….
—-
Mat4,
If your still around….don’t like Nole’s high FH volley still…he nearly hit one long again today….don’t know why he wants to hit it late…needs to keep that elbow in ….it sucks. Luckily in todays game you hardly need it ;).


Wog Boy Says:

For a moment I thought Sean’s jinx is back..though there is one more match to go,


Wog Boy Says:

For a moment I thought Sean’s jinx is back..though, there is one more match to go,


Wog Boy Says:

^^one more match tonight.


Wog Boy Says:

skeezer, every single match he has one of those high FH, he either plays it stright into oponents racquet or misses the court.
He is just not confortable with that shot, same with high OH.


FedExpress Says:

3 hours battle tonight could destroy tomorrows finals


jane Says:

good job nole! it might’ve been a bit tough to stay totally focused today after wrapping up number 1 yesterday. kei’s a good player, of course, too.


Wog Boy Says:

jane, he did look little bit flat, the reason could celebration from night before.
I like Nishikori but I can’t stand Chang in his box.
BTW, Nole/Nishikori H2H has been corrected:)


Wog Boy Says:

^^”reason colud be”….sorry it is 3:30am here, I am like a zombi.


Okiegal Says:

@Skeezer 10:44…..Says: “It’s all good. If he keeps playing these top guys, he’ll get it”….in reference to Kei. I’m not so sure, he is almost as injury prone as Rafa. I hope not, however, but he has had his woes. He flung his racquet today too, not too long after I made a post about his excellent demeanor on court, but no big deal…..He was very frustrated……still a nice guy. I’m sure it’s hard not to lose your cool once in awhile.


jane Says:

go to sleep wog boy! :)


Okiegal Says:

@Wog boy…….why can’t you stand Chang? Just curious. Have never heard anyone speak of their dislike for him on TX, that I can remember, that is.


mat4 Says:

@skeezer:

I am still here, reading… I write a bit more in French, now. Yes, you’re right, but I see he works a lot on his net game, and hopefully he will correct it.

But Kei will be a tough nut to crack in the future. And he puts Novak under a lot of pressure with his excellent FH…


Polo Says:

I can’t stand Chang either and for no particular reason.


Wog Boy Says:

Oki, I did try to be specific when I said “I can’t stand Chang in his box.” In no way I said he is bad person or this or that bad about him, I just can’t stand his behaviour in in the box, that’s all, just personal preference, same as we pick the player to follow, not everybody follows Federer, though he is the best ever, I could never warm up to him, from the moment I saw him first time, as I said just personal preference, doesn’t make me right or wrong.
Now I put myself in the hot water, go easy on me Fedfans, please.


Wog Boy Says:

I wish I could say it in one sentence, like Polo did.


Hippy Chick Says:

I cant stand Boris Becker,but thats his commontating,as a player i had no problem with him,thank goodness hes now Novaks coach so i dont have to listen to him any more,every sentence ended with very the phrase very much so grrrr….


Ash Says:

Highlight of the match was Bitterovic clapping the crowd after getting broken in the beginning of the 2nd on a double fault.

As usual, horrible court lead to a horrible UE-ful match. Hopefully Fed or Wawa will goat in the final to beat the pushing insecure egomaniac on this mud surface.


Dc Says:

Kei is definitely a GS potential, the only thing that will stop him from winning one will be his fragil body – if he’s not injured, he’s about to be injured. And if not that, he just recovered from an injury.
Only time will tell whether he will be able to win one.

Fed has good chance if he gets past stan theh man.Nole isn’t playing that great – it’s just that nobody is giving hims a challenge. We say in huge second set today – Kei hit a few good shots and was able to comfortably win theh set.


Okiegal Says:

@Wog boy……I’m so sorry, I read more into that than you intended. I understand what you mean.

BTW, Novak is your fav as Rafa is mine and I think Fed fans realize not everyone loves their guy. They wont come down on you for that……mainly because you’re a well liked poster on this forum, from my viewpoint. However, I do think that Fed and Rafa fan bases come down harder on each other than they do over other fan bases. Just my take.


Okiegal Says:

@Dc 1:35……That’s exactly what I said him my post at 11:36…..I fear that his career will be up and down like someone else I know……but I hope not. He’s a very talented young man and a delight to watch. I hate injuries……messes up my my favorite sport!!


Okiegal Says:

@Ash……Did the crowd do something obnoxious to Novak? I didn’t watch any of it so I don’t get the statement you made about him clapping the crowd after the dbl fault?? Just curious…..I can watch the incident on you tube…..because anything controversial is always there…..you can count on it…….. love me some you tube!! LOL


Ash Says:

Okiegal Joker throwing tantrums over the lack of love from the crowds… He better accept it, only in Belgrade would he be the crowds favorite.


Giles Says:

Joker did not win any fans today after his behaviour. He’d better toughen up for tomorrow cos that crowd is gonna be so one sided if it’s fed.


jane Says:

^wrong. in china, australia, italy, canada and many other places the crowd gives nole a lot of love. because, after all, he’s awesome! :)


Giles Says:

Awesome is what awesome does. He should know better than to react to the crowd. They’ve paid their money and feel entitled to behave as they like. As I said he’d better toughen up for tomorrow if it’s fed he’s facing.


Okiegal Says:

@Ash…..After asking you this question a posting came up on Facebook and gave me the answer I was looking for. The crowd can make you or break you…..better turn a deaf ear imo, because the problem could get worse in a matter of minutes. I thought the London crowd knew tennis was a gentleman’s sport…..oops I forgot…..that’s just for the players…..not the crowd!! Lol Thanks for your response, appreciate it!!


FedExpress Says:

Some1 on twitter says that ivan ljubicic said to sky sports italia that he saw Federer hit earlier and looked a bit in trouble with his back.


FedExpress Says:

break wawrinka

oh man, will be a long night


Humble Rafa Says:

If The Best Backhand in Switzerland plays like, he may win the DC for his beloved country.


Humble Rafa Says:

Some1 on twitter says that ivan ljubicic said to sky sports italia that he saw Federer hit earlier and looked a bit in trouble with his back.

Using an injury as an excuse for a loss is a bit lame, some might say.


Daniel Says:

Wow, Wawa is smacking the ball today. Another break with a return winner.


FedExpress Says:

double break for wawrinka

5-2

wtf is this. why do always against federer this hopeless cases shine?


Daniel Says:

Fed just broke back and Wawa had no first serves at all serving 5-2.
5-3 Fed serve.


Daniel Says:

Wawa 36% first serves in. Let’s see how he will serve for the set again next game 5-4.


FedExpress Says:

first to stand

what happnened to fed. not broken all week now twice in a set


Daniel Says:

Well, today is the day where the top dogs are losing sets.

Hope Fed can win second set and forces a decider. But if indeed his back is hurting better lose today and rest.


Daniel Says:

Imagine if Wawa wins this tourey, start and finish the year with a bang. Or if they win DC next week. His year will be even greater althoug too inconsistent.


brando GOAT poster Says:

Out at the moment, seen score Nd surprised: how does feds body language look peeps? Does it seem like he’s got a back issue? Looks bothersome, subdued?


FedExpress Says:

this fed is not the fed against murray

hope some1 asks in the presser about his back


jane Says:

so now wawrinka complain to the umpire about the crowd?


jane Says:

*complained


Giles Says:

Bloody whiner!!


FedExpress Says:

federer moonballing and pushing

3 BPs wasted. could imagine that fed will get broken now


Humble Rafa Says:

this fed is not the fed against murray

You don’t get midgets every day.


Daniel Says:

Stramgelly Fed is playong too many top spins and midle court. Don’t know if it’s his strategy to make WAwa overhit nbut he is not using low slices as he could and not driving forehands as well. Strange compared to how he was dominating actions last matches. Of course Wawa is taking control earlier but he could hit FH hard and flat.


Okiegal Says:

I think the umpire is Stan’s daddy……seriously, they look alike!!


Daniel Says:

Wow, amazing point


FedExpress Says:

why couldnt have had a hangover in the RR

4-3 fed

this surface is such a farce. two attacking players cant hit any winners. some FHs from fed would have been winners on any other surface


FedExpress Says:

wawrinka is body serving like a monster


Michael Says:

Is this the semi final that is going to effect a paradigm shift by providing us with a thriller which was denied to us throughout the tournament ? Let us wait and see ? But right now it is looking gloomy for Roger.


Okiegal Says:

Stan, don’t lose your focus coz of a nasty crowd!


FedExpress Says:

yes baby

come on

alleez

chum jetze

what a smash from wawa


Okiegal Says:

Oops….just did! Get back on track….you can do this!


Michael Says:

Roger breaks and so it goes the distance. Is it now advantage Roger ?

Or Wawarinka has still gas left in his tank to pose a challenge ?


FedExpress Says:

umpired robbed the match

fucking umpire

why overrule


Okiegal Says:

A good competitive match, at last! Fed griping about the call, he wasn’t listening. I heard the overrule plainly……also the love 15 call.


brando GOAT poster Says:

Fed got cheated? “”What happened was that the first shot was called out by line judge, but the umpire called it in. Federer didn’t hear the umpire’s involvement or he would have challenged it. And Federer would have been right.”


brando GOAT poster Says:

Wtf umpire just seen it myself: it was miles out, correctly called out and you rule it in! That’s ridiculous and I hope it does not cost Fed the match: the umpires ridiculous call!


Okiegal Says:

Maybe the umpire was placating Stan since the crowd has been so pro Federer……


brando GOAT poster Says:

Yep: wawa’s powerful, aggressive hitting is affecting Fed. But Roger is getting routine look in on wawa’s serve, still in this.


brando GOAT poster Says:

@okiegal: can see you dislike the crowd lol. That was a bad call regardless of the crowd. And a professional should not make such a ridiculous error especially when he overruled the correct call. It was a crazy call. As for the crowd: I agree they seriously pro Fed but I say: so what, deal with it (not you but the players). It’s a challenge and hardly a crime to see forceful support for their fav. If your good enough: you handle it. If not: you moan like a baby. That’s one thing I like about fav rafa: he does not let the crowd affect his play. Same with Fed. Champions face hostility and overcome it. Lesser ones falter in the face of it.


Michael Says:

It is really a pity that the quality of umpiring is so ugly in an otherwise well contested match. Wawarinka has the break extracted from the controversial first game. But still Roger is in the rsce .


mad max Says:

Keep commentating Brando…this is like,the,good old days…xx


brando GOAT poster Says:

Allez Roger still in this!!


brando GOAT poster Says:

Fed needs to ramp up his intensity in this next game: get aggressive and I can see wawa crack under the pressure, let’s see .


Okiegal Says:

@Brando……u r spot on with that comment at 5:08….I agree with everything you said!


Michael Says:

It is a do or die situation for Roger. All credit to Wawarinka who gas fought gallantly against all odds.


Eric Says:

…the tennis fortune gods are smiling on Stan right now, that’s for sure.


brando GOAT poster Says:

GOATTT. Fight there!


Goose Egg Says:

Wow, absolutely riveting. All tied at 5-5 in the third after Fed fights off match points. I don’t even care who wins anymore… I’m just happy that this match has been nothing short of entertaining!


Michael Says:

Roger breaks and the stadium erupts. What a match ?


SX1 Says:

lol old man with just 2 FH winner both on MP down !!


mad max Says:

Wow…Brando keep commentating..no live stream..:(


brando GOAT poster Says:

Love it real champions fight like colossals they are!


brando GOAT poster Says:

Max: Fed 6-5 and fighting like a proper champion!


Eric Says:

…and a bit of an escape for Roger there to match up the karma. Stan to serve at 5-6 now. I guess they go to tiebreakers in the final sets here at the WTF? Could be that tight…


michael Says:

How quickly the scenario changes ? Serving for the match at one time with match points and now desperately trying to stay in the match.


jatin Says:

Easily the match of the tournament.
Just loving the fight fed is putting up on court right now. Don’t care about he result anymore


brando GOAT poster Says:

Allez! 1-0 Fed!


jatin Says:

A tiebreaker to sum it up all.


brando GOAT poster Says:

2-0 Fed! :-)


SX1 Says:

Best FH of the match from old man


brando GOAT poster Says:

4- 2 Fed!


jatin Says:

It could go anywhere now 5-5


Eric Says:

oh come ON


madmax Says:

Can’t sleep…sounds like a hec of a match..will have to watch the highlights tomorrow. Alas, no livestream.

Thanks Brando.


Eric Says:

Ump robbed Roger of a service winner, he went on to lose the point. May well determine match. If only Roger knew when to challenge.


brando GOAT poster Says:

Yesssssssss!!!!!!!!!! Feddddddd!!!!!!


SX1 Says:

1st MP convert ..clutch from oldman


Eric Says:

WOW. That was one of the most stressful half-hours of my tennis-watching life…


jatin Says:

Wow.. Just wow
Fed saved 4 match points today. Just amazed with his fighting spirit once again.
Tough luck Stan. You played as well as you could. But what a match.


Andrea Says:

Only on live scoring and having a heart attack. Yay Roger!


brando GOAT poster Says:

That was the grittiest Federer win I have ever seen! Dare I say rafaesque: not playing well but fighting like a warrior! Well done Fed and that was a privilege to watch! Allez Roger in the final for sure!


jane Says:

ha ha tight match. fed it is. stan will rue his missed chances. he had a couple match points when he was serving for it, but tried bizarre serve & volleys and kind of choked a little bit. fed held on. and that’s it for the swiss showdown.


brando GOAT poster Says:

Damn it’s 11: unfair he has no rest for final! Rubbish scheduling!


Eric Says:

Can’t believe Roger ended up with the win here. The real story of the last few games, at least, was Stan– his FOOTWORK was insane, courtspeed great, his ball striking was fantastic. Just a couple of errors fewer and he would have won straightforwardly, that’s how good he was playing. (Conversely, a few less outrageous ‘gets’ from Stan, and Roger would’ve be the straightforward winner.)

Anyway, GREAT finish. I need to go meditate and restore my calm now. Cheers everyone.


SX1 Says:

Old man is developing a habit of winning marches MP down this year !!


Humble Rafa Says:

Dare I say rafaesque: not playing well but fighting like a warrior!

You can say Humbleque. Any medical charges incurred today as a result of this match can be charged to His Arrogantness.


brando GOAT poster Says:

Glad Fed saw kei match: nishikori showed some weaknesses Fed can explore for sure! Hope the crowd roots for Fed like tonight: back your fav hard!


Hippy Chick Says:

Fantastic match about time we got a contest,in whats been a dissapointing tourney,hope we get a decent final,to end the year on,congrats Roger and Novak may the best man win,sorry for Stan who was Rogers equal in that match,Roger been the great champion he is found that little bit extra in the end….


Shailesh Says:

Lucky escape for Federer today, managed to scrape through by the skin of his teeth. He played quite poorly compared to Wawrinka who was on fire today. Dont think anyone hits a cleaner backhand than Wawrinka in the history of tennis.


Giles Says:

That really was an unbelievable effort from fed!


skeezer Says:

Congrats Fed!
Sorry gang, imo that was one ugly ugly match. From the umps terrible umping to problems with both players games. Stan apparently doesn’t know what a first serve is, and Fed was not sharp at all. Sure the score line looked great, but thats only because both players couldn’t get it together overall.


madmax Says:

Just seen this….

11.02pm GMT23:02
Roger Federer beats Stanislas Wawrinka 4-6, 7-5, 7-6 (8-6) to reach the final!

That’s the thing with Federer. He only needs one. Another perfectly timed drop shot, and it’s game over. How has Roger Federer won this match?!

Well, bummer that I couldnt see the match on livestream. Crappy livestream tonight. Don’t know what to say. Want to hear from both players. Seems like it was on Stan’s racquet tonight.

Question: How did Roger win the match? HOw did he do it?

Brando, you are best when you are like this and not the snipey persona of late. Has Fed gone up in your estimation I ask?

Thanks for commentating.


Tennis Fan Says:

And in Canada TSN was too cheap to pay for after 6PM … The match cut out at the critical point 6 all in the tie break.I gotta get the Tennis Channel … can’t stand the networks here at home.


brando GOAT poster Says:

That was the best wtf match I have seen since Nadal v Murray in 2010: it was awesome drama to watch! Just hope that Fed is not tired as I fear he looked post match there! Again: rubbish scheduling consider we have day rests in RR stage!


I Love Tennis Says:

Well done Roger, Great job.


michael Says:

Credit to both the players for giving us such a relief through sheer quality entertainment which was absent throughout the entire tournament. Roger overcame poor umpiring decisions while Stan was unlucky having so many match points and yet going on to lose. Tennis was the winner in this match.


Hippy Chick Says:

Agree with Eric,that Stan was reminiscent of the one that won the AO,his problem has been consistency this year since that win,but playing like today he is definetly a match for the top guys,and it bodes well for next year when playing like that….


madmax Says:

yeah brando, match should move to Monday. Little recovery time, but, swings and roundabouts. He can but do his best tomorrow.

Certainly it is on Novak’s raquet tomorrow.

How many WTF finals Fed made now? I lose track! :)

The great man just gets greater!


sienna Says:

another Wtf final unbelievable match. Mr breaker does it again.
after 3 hours late finishet and convidence djokovic must have. I just see Federer losing a litle steam in finale so Djoker for #4.
but I havent predicted a single match correct this week. Have a good one….


brando GOAT poster Says:

@madmax: lol thanks. Snipey persona? Full disclosure: I have trolled rf recently but only because I wanted some cheap laughs from his end. That is now at end and I have retired on that front. Has he gone up in my estimation? Well I consider him GOAT so no. But what I LOVE here and have enjoyed from Fed in recent years is : fight, fight, fight! That’s what I LOVE about my fab rafa: his relish for the scrap and in recent years Fed has shown he’s got that in him. I just love it when champions face adversity and overcome it: it’s drama of the finest for me. Shakespearean stuff! And Fed’s performance here was so awesome. Sure he was not at his a game but the desire, passion, fight, never say die attitude I just loved watching tonight. I have always admired him: but when he’s like this I do love him!


Tennis Fan Says:

From what I saw of the match .. .although both players struggled with the first serves toward the end of the match it was played at a pretty high level. I would disagree with those suggesting it was anything but a very close and well played match. Glad Fed came through because I am pretty sure he will take out the Djoker.


brando GOAT poster Says:

Fans> end lol. Really, really hope Fed beats the fatigue for tomorrow. Let’s all hope he does since Fed deserves a fair crack at the title. A semi final between 2 top 4 players at 8 pm start the day before the final= stupidity of the highest order.


mat4 Says:

I thought that Roger played poorly in defense — while his attack game was ok — and only at the end of the match, he started slicing the ball, changing the rhythm, and it helped, Stan missing a lot of those balls. It was something he had to do from the beginning, but I guessed he didn’t want to give Stan easy, slow balls, knowing that the Helvetian can generate enough power.

But the key were Stan’s nerves. He started well: attacking Roger’s FH to open the other side of the court. Then, suddenly, he forgot his plan, and worse, he forgot it in the critical moments of the match.

He made TWO first serves in his last two serving games and none in the TB. And oh boy he missed: three match points on his serve, two break points… in moments when he was utterly dominant from the back of the court, he kept rushing to the net…


TennisVagabond.com Says:

My PVR stopped with Stan serving for match, i had to come check what happened on the internet!
CRAZY!

Love Fed’s fighting spirit. Agree with Skeeze, was an ok match, not fantastic. But Stan’s kill shots are just amazing to see.

And I’ll add, re the earlier match: Kei has the worst net game in the top twenty. Just awful. If he even gets the ball over the net, he will put it right back on the other’s racquet, even if he’s way off the court!


TennisVagabond.com Says:

However, Novak and Andy had awful net games when they were young and now they’re both pretty great there.


Hippy Chick Says:

For sheer intensity it was a fantastic match….


jane Says:

it is strange how all the players have had such low first serve percentages on this court. stan’s was really low at the end and fed’s wasn’t as high as it often is either.


Okiegal Says:

Stan better be equipped for ear plugs in the future…….he definitely let the crowd get under his skin. The official called him off of a fan. You can’t pay any attention to that crap….He lost focus….reminiscent of 2014 AO when Rafa came back and took that set off of him and shouldn’t have. Stan, get rid of the rabbit ears!!


madmax Says:

Here’s Roger Federer: “I think I got lucky tonight. Stan played better from the baseline and that usually does the job on this court. But I kept fighting. It’s tough but I’m thrilled to be in another final in London.

“Novak is playing great tennis. It usually brings the best out of me, it’s going to be tough but I’ll give it a shot.”

David Law BBC Radio 5 live sports extra commentator

What resistance shown from Roger Federer. He had to save four match points, but somehow he has held on and booked his place in the final.

Wawrinka looks absolutely devastated as he trudges off the court.

Djokovic versus Federer tomorrow in the final. Make sure you do not miss it.

“Poor old Stan Wawrinka. He could not have done any more. He threw the kitchen sink at Federer and even served and volleyed. He leaves the arena to a standing ovation.”

You just have to feel for Stan.

Brando. I hear you. :)


Okiegal Says:

Forgot to mention……GREAT MATCH…..FINALLY!!


Dc Says:

Well …. Fed didn’t win the match because he fought.
He won because Stan goofed up with the MP’s. Stan played the MPs stupidly and Fed took advantage of it. That’s being lucky,

Fight was what fed did to djokovic during the 4th set of wimby this year.

Nevertheless , a good win for Fed and wish him the best for tomorrow. Hope he fights, gets lucky or whatever to get wtf number 7.


Eric Says:

dc, sure, and Stan got very lucky on most of the break and deuce points in his last two service games until Fed finally got the break. It can go both ways, sometimes.


Eric Says:

Also it’s crap that they don’t have a day off before the final. But judging by Roger’s form today and Novak’s scorelines so far, Fed would get smoked no matter how many days off there were… big time underdog, I would say.


Eric Says:

ALSO, it’s crazy to think that Delpo was at the WTF just last year– and played it incredibly close against both Roger and Novak. Hope the big guy can make it a season or two without injury.


Dc Says:

Agree with you Eric – Feds form wasn’t impressive- it may have to do with the fact that Stan is his partner for Davis cup next week ; and that Stan was giving Fed a lot of high bouncing backhanders, making fed uncomfy.
Hope fed gets his form back tomorrow.


brando GOAT poster Says:

I think that the biggest cause of problem for Fed today v stanimal that has bugged him all 2014 matches v wawa and will not be a factor tomorrow, one which is something that can hurt him badly is : powerful hitting ar pace. Think delpo hitting in uso 09: actually stop brando that’s the past. This year: gulbis at French open, cilic at us open. Big powerful hitters genuinely bother Fed. They do to all to be honest. But Fed is an aggressive, offensive baseliner who does not like to on defense or is as comfortable there as a Nadal or. Djokovic. And even those guys struggle v clean hard hitting (kei forehand troubled nole big at times). Wawrinka was seriously unloading with some hard hitting and that had Federer struggling at times. Novak will not be doing this. He can hit at pace, outlast Fed now but he will overwhelm Fed with power like wawrinka was doing at times and I think that will help Fed big time. I feel IF Fed is fit and not fatigue: he’s more comfortable v nole even though he’s no.1 than a hard hitter like wawrinka who is itching to thump the ball in murderous fashion since Fed knows: 9/10 he’ll be the aggressor. And that’s what Fed wants to do And is best at. IF Fed is fit and fresh: I believe he’ll play better than tonight. And if he’s playing aggressively, with a bullish attitude on court, raucous crowd support: I firmly believe he’ll win. I think his biggest problem will be prematch: recovery process. It’s stupid a major final is the following day after a 11pm finish for a semi final. Ridiculous and blatantly unfair.


brando GOAT poster Says:

correction: He will not overwhelm Fed with power.


Emily Says:

I know there’s a lot of Fed fans here, but my heart breaks for Stan and I want to give him a post. He was dictating play today and had the belief up until the end of that 2nd set. He’s had some issues closing out matches when he’s been ahead before, but this was worse based on the very high stakes. You can see the nerves on his face and then he makes impulsive mistakes. It’s hard to watch.

I think/hope that this loss will have the same effect his loss to Nole had at the 2013 AO. That turned into a motivator and source of belief, leading to winning the 2014 AO. The commentators on the Tennis Channel were predicting a love and love win for Federer today and after this, maybe they’ll have a little more respect (I actually turned off Mcenroe’s commentary b/c he was so anti-Stan in his match against Cilic). In his interviews, he’s a humble guy and accepts that people will always ask him about Federer. Yes, he was reactive towards the crowd, but I’ve seen him do that before. Sometimes, it’s unnecessary, but I can’t imagine what it’s like playing with a pro-Federer crowd when you want to win so badly. He worked hard for that slam, but to a lot of people, he was still the #2 Swiss even when mathematically he wasn’t. It might be tough for them to regroup this weekend after their two close matches this year.

I think this will give him confidence for the DC final, which perhaps means the most to him. After all the ties he’s played, saving Switzerland from relegation by often playing singles and doubles, he’s been waiting for Federer to help him. This isn’t an attack on Fed, but it has clearly been hard for Stan to bite his tongue about Federer’s absence.

Whatever happens tomorrow, Stan has proved that when he’s on his game, he can beat anyone. Everyone is making these doomsday predictions about his ranking next year, but these are very premature and misguided. He has an amazing game and I realized this year that he’s the player I’ve seen play the most times since I’ve been going to the US Open. I don’t miss any opportunity simply because I love watching him when he’s at his best, whether he’s playing on Arthur Ashe or tiny Court 10 (when there were about 25 spectators).

So, sorry for the long post, but here’s to STAN THE MAN and his continued success.


Polo Says:

Didn’t see the match. But hey, Brando GP! Thanks a bunch for that exciting, incisive, funny, etc. (all good) running commentary. Those TV tennis commentators cannot hold a candle to you.


Polo Says:

Emily, I liked that. It wasn’t long. It was perfect.


DC Says:

@brando GOAT poster – you are right. Hard hitting would have been another factor today contributing the trouble Fed was in today.
apparently Fed’s backhand slices weren’t working well either. Fed after making errors on these was seen looking at his camp, something he never ever does.

Feds quality of play though picked up later during the match, specially during the tie breaker. He was hitting better, volleying better and made a few successful ventures at the net.

Interestingly Fed hit only 4 aces today in 36 games and 2 tie breakers..say almost 40 games (20 service games) at an average of 4 acres every 5 service games.
In his good days, Fed would hit 4 aces in a game to get out of a 0-40 hole.

The key to final is going to be Feds service quality, which has been low in the tournament, at least against Murray and Stan. Good serving from Fed generally indicates good health and good overall form.

looking forward to a great final tomorrow and hope the best man over 30 wins.


Humble Rafa Says:

No one hits a clean backhand like the Best Backhand in Switzerland. Atleast he has that going for him. He should just quit tennis and teach others in Switzerland how to hit backhands, he may have a good career.


Emily Says:

Thanks Polo. It helps get your thoughts out there to people who care as much as I do.

In terms of seeing the match, I really recommend the Tennis Channel. I know not everyone can get it, but if you can, I would. I have it on constantly, which means I go through tennis withdrawal during the off season, which officially starts after next weekend.I know they have a new app, which has extra content, if that helps.


DC Says:

@Humble Rafa Says:
No one hits a clean backhand like the Best Backhand in Switzerland. Atleast he has that going for him. He should just quit tennis and teach others in Switzerland how to hit backhands, he may have a good career.
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hes not injured – so at least let him play.


Humble Rafa Says:

hes not injured – so at least let him play.

Mental injuries never heal, especially in Switzerland.


Dc Says:

@ HumbleRafa

Well you are the expert on injuries ( real n fake n physical n mental ) , so I’ll trust you on that.


django Says:

Fed Express,the name of the song is Heroes by david bowie


Steve 27 Says:

Another choke for Wawrinka, what a bad decisión to serve and volley three time like Djoker in Australia this year, he is not great doing that. Bad deciions cost him the match and yeah, 38% for a top players is awful.


Goose Egg Says:

@Emily great post re: Stan. I agree that this match won’t hurt Stan’s performance at DC. It’s not like Stan and other tennis players are one-dimensional robots who care only about their own personal success. Things like genuine friendship (which I believe Stan & Fed have) and national pride will easily let Stan move past today’s result and play a great DC. When Stan and Severin Luthi hoisted Fed up on their shoulders after reaching the DC final, they were all so excited and giddy together… that type of shared excitement and pride easily outweighs the bitterness of defeat, which some commentators on TV were suggesting might affect Stan’s DC play. I don’t buy it


Humble Rafa Says:

When Stan and Severin Luthi hoisted Fed up on their shoulders after reaching the DC final, they were all so excited and giddy together

You know how it goes, just like the Olympics. After the Swiss win the DC, the Arrogant One will remove Stan’s picture from the photo, and call it an “individual triump”. Typical Arrogance we are used to.


skeezer Says:

“Typical Arrogance we are used to.”
You’re talkn about yourself right?
You keep tryin, but you fail as a comic. Stick to the rehab.


jane Says:

i think the fedole match is 50-50 with maybe a slight edge to nole, although i am not sure he’s been tested enough. fed could be tired physically, though he’s clearly very fit and has motivation. nole said in his presser that he feels “exhausted”, which i took to mean maybe mental fatigue after a full year personally and professionally. so we may have 2 tired dads in the final. hopefully they can produce a good match none the less.


Humble Rafa Says:

so we may have 2 tired dads in the final.

Please, can we cut off the dad thing. Being a boyfriend is more demanding, trust me.


Steve 27 Says:

Djokovic in 2 easy sets or Chokervic in 3 tight sets.
Anything can happen.


autoFilter Says:

A belated congratulations to Nole for securing year end no 1 a third time (and counting). I have been continually impressed with his trajectory as a tennis player and, in so far as I can judge, a human being in general. Also, I hope he loses tomorrow :)


Dc Says:

Humble Rafa Says:
so we may have 2 tired dads in the final.

Please, can we cut off the dad thing. Being a boyfriend is more demanding, trust me.

November 15th, 2014 at 10:19 pm
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Well .. U can always escape ur girlfriend by making an injury excuse..


Polo Says:

Emily, I have Tennis Channel and I agree it has very good tennis coverage. I just happened to be too busy to watch yesterday. What may be even better is ESPN 3 if you can get it through your cable carrier. It covers simultaneous matches and you can choose which to watch. I can also watch it anywhere in my iPad.

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