Murray Stunned By Coric In Dubai, Djokovic, Federer Dominate; Venus Takes Out Radwanska In Doha
by Staff | February 26th, 2015, 6:16 pm
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Andy Murray’s struggled continued Thursday in Dubai where the recent Australian Open finalist was crushed by 18-year-old Borna Coric 6-1, 6-3.

“He didn’t make many errors,” said Murray who made 55 unforced errors himself and won just 14% of serve return points. “He played very solid and he moved well. I made way too many mistakes from the beginning of the match right through to the end, early in rallies, rushing points.”

Since losing to Novak Djokovic in the Australian Open final, Murray has gone just 4-2 with quarterfinal losses at Rotterdam last week to Gilles Simon and now in the quarters in Dubai to Coric.

Coric picks up his second career win over a Big Four player after beating Rafael Nadal as a 17-year-old in Basel last October.

“[It’s] one of the biggest wins, for sure,” said Coric whose game resembles Novak Djokovic’s. “I was just trying to maintain my level, stay in the rallies as long as I can, which I was doing really well. I was also running very well.

“I’m still a little bit struggling with the best players when they are playing really good obviously. I always need to be on 100 per cent, and when I’m on 100 per cent, mentally [and] also tennis wise, then I think I can play with them.”

In his second career ATP semifinal, Coric will meet Roger Federer after the defending champion advanced when Richard Gasquet withdrew with back pain down 6-1.

“I know enough about the back, and I know how horrible it is to play with that and how much worse it can sometimes become,” said Federer. “It’s maybe better not to take any chances at this point.”

Federer, who has six titles in his second home of Dubai, is intrigued by Coric.

“He seems to really play up when it matters against the better players,” Federer said of his next opponent. “Today I think it was a great victory. I didn’t see any of the match, so I can’t tell about Murray’s level. But regardless of the level, to beat Murray 6-1, 6-3, it was, it’s a great score. Because historically Murray has played very well here in Dubai. It’s definitely a message I get.”

In the second semi, 4-time champion Djokovic meets Tomas Berdych. Berdych, who just won just 500th career match yesterday, knocked out Sergiy Stakohovky in three. Djokovic destroyed Marcel Ilhan 6-1, 6-1.

Djokovic has beaten Berdych 17 of 19 times.

“I try to move him around,” Djokovic said. “He’s a big guy and has a powerful game. Even though he moves better this year, he’s still heavy, he’s still big. That’s where I try to use my opportunities from the back of the court and mix up the pace and not give him the same rhythm, because that’s what he likes.”

Djokovic has won his last 10 matches. He is bidding for his 50th career title this week.

At the WTA event in Doha, 34-year-old Venus Williams continued to show who is in charge after beating Agnieszka Radwanska 6-4, 1-6, 6-3. Venus, who has won six of her last seven against Top 10 players, moves on to face Victoria Azarenka in the semis. In a battle of former No. 1s, Azarenka beat Caroline Wozniacki 6-3, 6-1.

Azarenka, though, has never won a set in four previous meetings against Williams.

“Hopefully I’m still far from my best because I never want to feel like I can’t improve further,” Azarenka said. “I think that with every match, there’s always an opportunity to get better, and that’s what I’m looking forward to just try to keep improving, try to keep developing my game. I don’t really rate my best or not my best. I just try to be better than my opponent on that particular day.”

In the other semifinal, Carla Suárez Navarro will take on Lucie Safarova. For the second successive tournament, Suárez Navarro got the better of Petra Kvitova, following up her triumph in Dubai with a 3-6, 6-0, 6-3 win. Safarova, meanwhile, outclassed Andrea Petkovic, 6-2, 6-1, to reach just her second Premier semifinal since 2012.

In Acapulco, Kei Nishikori and Maria Sharapova were scheduled for later today.


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147 Comments for Murray Stunned By Coric In Dubai, Djokovic, Federer Dominate; Venus Takes Out Radwanska In Doha

jane Says:

just read this tweet:

Patrick McEnroe ‏@PatrickMcEnroe 43m43 minutes ago
Watching replay of Murray loss to Coric. Borna the real deal no doubt but what was up with Andy? Trying to pull triggers very very early


Michael Says:

To be beaten black and blue by an unknown Coric is morale sapping and shattering for Andy. It is evident that he is not in the right mind set at the moment and is short of confidence. His Australian Open final loss to Novak has a shattering blow to his psyche and right since then, he has not been the same player that he was. What should be disheartening for Andy is losing quite often to lower ranked players which is not going to help his cause even a wee bit. To script a turn around from now on will be difficult, but not impossible for a player of Andy’s calibre. But he has to do it fast and swift as his ranking is falling fast.


Okiegal Says:

I guess Andy knows how Rafa felt. They both better kick it up a notch!

When Coric wins a tournament, we’ll talk!


abuya Says:

hopefully federer retain the title…


TennisVagabond.com Says:

Very interesting update on match fixing:

http://www.slate.com/articles/sports/sports_nut/2015/02/denys_molchanov_match_fixing_allegations_pro_tennis_has_a_match_fixing_problem.html

Ryan Harrison and Peter Polansky saying pretty strongly that it is happening regularly at the sub-100 rankings.


Emily Says:

This Federer/Coric is already a topsy-turvy match, break points all over the place. I think they’re feeling the attention people are paying to this match, both playing really aggressive.


FedExpress Says:

Federer channeling his inner murray
from 3-0 broken to love for 3-2


madmax Says:

I think with Murray, he has got his priorities right. Agassi was talking this morning about him and said:-

a) He will win one of the grand slams this year.
b) He has prioritized the Davis cup – already back in UK.
c) All this talk about Amelie, they should lay off. Agassi said one of the reasons why he chose Amelie was because she LISTENED to him and didn’t tell him ALL THE TIME, what to do, one of the reasons, (apparently), why he chose her?

Who knows?

Interesting perspective from Agassi.


Emily Says:

ok, maybe we all got ahead of ourselves w/ federer winning 6-2, though he is making many more UE than usual


FedExpress Says:

The backhand DTL was pure orgasm


Emily Says:

Well, this seems to have been a wash. Probably getting the Novak/Fed final


brando Says:

Interesting pre match comments from Federer: After his quarter-final win over Richard Gasquet, Federer spoke highly of his next opponent, who had just taken out World No. 3 Andy Murray in straight sets. It’s clear the World No. 2 will not be resting on his reputation come Friday.

“He seems to really play up when it matters against the better players… It’s definitely a message I get,” he said, smiling.

In preparation for his first meeting with the Croat, Federer’s coach Severin Luthi will do some reconnaissance work around the grounds in Dubai.

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“Severin would maybe go ask other players if there is anybody around to find out what they have to say about Coric who might have played him,” the Swiss explained. “Then you just check online or you try to get some matches, like the [Rafael] Nadal match, to break it down a bit more and see how he played there.

“What I do remember is he makes very little errors, and I think that’s why he is able to put a lot of the top guys under pressure, as well. A top guy would maybe expect a guy like that to go away eventually.  If he doesn’t, that can surprise you.”

Coric, recipient of the 2014 ATP Star of Tomorrow Award Presented by Emirates, is currently sitting at a career-high Emirates ATP Ranking of No. 84. His win over Murray comes less than five months after he upset Nadal en route to the Swiss Indoors Basel semi-finals. In fact, he is the first teenager to reach the Dubai semi-finals since Nadal clinched the title as a 19 year old in 2006.


brando Says:

Amazing coric is first teenager since rafa to reach semi finals here. 9 years for a mere 500 event. It’s more physical now than ever for a teen to breakthrough big methinks. Unless your a random Mike Tyson, you need time to develop.


FedExpress Says:

vintage federer in the 2nd set.

3 winners from coric, 2 of them were aces

hope fed has a better final win ratio than last year


brando Says:

Yeah I fully expected this and also for 1 way traffic in the other semi. Fed v nole it shall be.


Emily Says:

Underwhelming to say the least. If you didn’t see the match, you didn’t miss much, other than Coric pulling a Murray and screaming at himself and his box.


madmax Says:

Well done Fed!

Brando, reasonable comments from you for a change. :)


sienna Says:

He did make a good impression on Feds serve but well what can you. Federer loves tot play those upcomming youngsters. Difference with Murray is gigantic. play the game like want to impresse the world and dominate tennis to consider it as a
obligation.


Hippy Chick Says:

Vintage Federer,but agree with Emily,its been a dissapointing Dubia this year,considering the lack of a deep field Rio was quite exciting there was some quite competitive three set matches last week,havent seen any BA this week so cant really say how that tourneys going….


Hippy Chick Says:

Fed against Novak should be good,Fed matches up well with Novak especially on this surface,hope he wins the title….


Emily Says:

@HC, never thought about that, but you’re right about Rio. All that drama w/ matches finishing at 3 AM (as ridiculous as that was), comebacks, match points saved. Not that surprising that one of the calmest players in Ferrer ended up winning. This tournament has given us one surprising upset, but I guess the organizers wanted that Fed/Nole final from the beginning. Maybe it’ll live up to the billing.

We need Indian Wells stat.


FedExpress Says:

Berdych is such a mental midget

broken in first game. he needs some mental help.


FedExpress Says:

peking part II


jane Says:

lovely play from nole to start. <3


FedExpress Says:

berdych is toast. just retire.


FedExpress Says:

double break.

berdychs serve is just weak


jane Says:

berd’s getting in 75% first serves. maybe nole’s return is just awesome. ;)


Emily Says:

Wow, another edge of your seat thriller in Dubai


FedExpress Says:

oh man berdych. what a beatdown.

just retire from tennis.

and the commentators talking about nole cleaning up the remaining GSs. WTF. he wont win any GS this year


FedExpress Says:

nole choking on BPs


Muhammad Says:

@FedExpress
“nole chocking on BPs” at 4:0? Lol


FedExpress Says:

u have to critcize something about nole even when he is playing nearly flawless tennis ;)


jane Says:

i really thought tomas would’ve gotten some new tactics etc for playing nole, but nope. he doesn’t have a way to shift things. that said, what a set by nole. i know it’s a rout so boring for others, but some beautiful points from my perspective.


Muhammad Says:

Does anyone else feel sorry for Tomas when he gets baggelled?


FedExpress Says:

nope.


FedExpress Says:

dont think nole will win French Open this year. one match hui, next pfui. And he could meet nadal in the semis. he destined to never win FO and I like that. Will forever remain a hole in his career.


FedExpress Says:

so many cheering for Nole? how many of them wil cheer tomorrow?


jane Says:

muhammad, if he were to get another bagel then yes. one bagel is meh. ;)


jane Says:

just read an interesting stat/tweet:

Josh Meiseles ‏@jmeistennis 3m3 minutes ago
Novak Djokovic bagels served against Top 10 players…
from 2003-2013: 3
in just the last five months: 6


FedExpress Says:

break nole

think fed will beat nole.


FedExpress Says:

the top 10 from 2013 is weak compared to 2003-2013 so no surprise.


FedExpress Says:

just rip it berdych


brando Says:

Some people used to call Federer’s 2003-2007 era a weak period in tennis. Right or wrong: matters not. IF someone soon does not step up, show a pair this year is a weak year at the absolute top. And the thing is: Federer was clearly better than the rest back then. That’s not the case now. Since we all know-deep down- how the present top dog is nowhere near Federer solid at the top and his more esteemed rivals don’t need a guidebook on how to beat him since they wrote that book. Here though it’s a clear case of player dominating when his only true rival have aged (Federer), physically depleted (Nadal) and are perennially mentally AWOL (Murray). Anyone can hype up the rest but we all know none of them are at the absolute top level. The game desperately needs fedal and muzza to step up. As otherwise we could see a dominated field when really it’s not because one player is super good. No. It’s because his real rivals are past it, and the rest just make up the numbers as always. For the sake of competition: Fed- dig in deep, be steel solid and win the damn final! Give some hope to those who fear a snooze year could occur. We know you can pull it off. A younger you would definitely kick ass. Show the field the way. Shame them. If a 33 year old can show fight, spirit and guts: the rest have no excuses for looking like a bunch of sorry wimps. Get that title and then call your buddy in Buenos Aires and say : let’s kick all their asses for one more year Rafael since none rock the show like we do. Let’s give all the millions of fans we brought to the game one last hurrah, before monotony kills it. Vamos Fed!


FedExpress Says:

hahahhhaha nole

3 BPs berdych


jane Says:

nole came down off his cloud. sigh…


FedExpress Says:

break berdych
hahhahahahahahahahhahaha


FedExpress Says:

berdych goating now


FedExpress Says:

still that seppi loss makes fed season so far average. would have accepted a semi final defeat.


jane Says:

berd just stayed with it, and nole’s level dropped. 4-3 berd.


FedExpress Says:

nole choking really now


FedExpress Says:

BPs for berdych


FedExpress Says:

this is just comedy
berdych serving for the set


jane Says:

berd is defending surprisingly well, and nole meanwhile is suddenly missing everything. looks like berd will take this set. he breaks again.

darn nolecoaster! : /


Emily Says:

Is this possible? Are we going to get a third set?


FedExpress Says:

now berdych choking


jane Says:

nole went from 80% first serves in set one to 52% in set two. and way more ues. koenig says the wind has picked up too. nole breaks back. crazy set.


FedExpress Says:

break back

typical berdych
5-7 in coming


FedExpress Says:

fed will like his chances against these clowns


Emily Says:

Ok, maybe not


Brando Says:

Birdman will lose the set but he just showed what you got to do:

Stay tough, stay close and Novak will definitely give you chances to pounce.

Birdbrain showed it there. Bit more steel and he would have closed it out.


FedExpress Says:

so much choking going on in this match


skeezer Says:

Fed did his homework and obviously thoroughly studied this kid’s game. Coric has proven dangerous and Fed noted. Congats Fed! Next..


FedExpress Says:

u have to every littler chance

u wil get punished heavily if u dont


FedExpress Says:

*take

come on berdy


FedExpress Says:

venus playing like a GOAT

showing age is only a number. could have won wimbledon last year


andrea Says:

yay federer! he looks timeless right now. he’s taking out old guys, new guys…not sure what happened at AO. he was looking out of sorts there,


FedExpress Says:

nole is having a laugh lololol


FedExpress Says:

is the trainer his friend or what?


Brando Says:

If they ever make a sequel to Taxi Driver Novak needs to play Travis Bickle: young De Niro!


FedExpress Says:

SPs for birshit

wow


FedExpress Says:

take a bow berdych

third set

nole is done. decline. just retire.


Brando Says:

Vamos Birdman! Vamos!

What a killer FH in that game by Tomas the tank engine!

Here’s hoping he keeps on choo chooing in the 3rd- full steam ahead!


FedExpress Says:

choke in epic proportions.


Giles Says:

Oh dear he grazed his finger, cry baby!


Ben Pronin Says:

FedExpress Says:
berdych is toast. just retire.
February 27th, 2015 at 10:24 am

oh man berdych. what a beatdown.
just retire from tennis.
and the commentators talking about nole cleaning up the remaining GSs. WTF. he wont win any GS this year
February 27th, 2015 at 10:33 am

take a bow berdych
third set
nole is done. decline. just retire.
February 27th, 2015 at 11:29 am

Dude you’re worse than the media.


FedExpress Says:

i know


FedExpress Says:

the swaggerness in venus walk is just priceless


Brando Says:

Major hold there from Tomas.


Ben Pronin Says:

Loving the investment from Brando. Who knew he was such a big Berdych fan?


Brando Says:

Loving the attention from Ben- who thought I had another poodle on here?


FedExpress Says:

come on berdych win this and then lose ur 3rd final


Emily Says:

Didn’t see what happened to Novak’s finger? What was it?


FedExpress Says:

boy when berds FH hammer is on then its something special


FedExpress Says:

he slipped


Brando Says:

Yeah his FH outrageous when on. That winner he hit to set up set points was just insane.


jane Says:

missed the end of the second. hope nole can find some form in the third. ajde nole!!


FedExpress Says:

boom boom

davy beat nadal after losing the first set 0-6


Colin Says:

I didn’t watch the Fed/Coric match, but the result was no surprise. I console myself with the thought that the teenager couldn’t do what Andy did when HE was a teenager – beat Federer!

I’ve decided to rest my nerves this year by not watching Andy’s matches live. If he wins, I’ll watch the “catch-up” video on the ATP site. Is that pathetic or what?

The sad thing about Murray’s failures lately is, the people who are putting him down aren’t (the sensible ones) saying he can’t play good tennis, just that he isn’t.


TennisVagabond.com Says:

Brando, great state of the game post!


FedExpress Says:

3 BPs nole


Brando Says:

Killer BH by nole!


FedExpress Says:

break nole

wtf berdych


Brando Says:

@TV:

(In a sly voice)

It’s all I do, TV, it’s all do! :-)

Thanks man!


Brando Says:

@Colin:

Love the dig to the haters lol!

Seriously I don’t blame you. Andy is so Jekyll and Hyde he can be maddening for people who have him as their no.2 like I- it would be even worse for those have him at 1!

Do I think he’s in a doomed, terminal scenario? No way. Far from it. All I know is:

The longer he performs below what he can do, the harder it becomes to get back up there. I said he needs a big American Spring. He needs to win there or beat a big name. He can do so for sure.

All it takes is 1 win of a title. Just one. Get that and the confidence starts flowing, and once that’s the case the scenario can change entirely for him.

He’s still in the fight- just that he needs to start throwing some blows of his own rather than copping the punishment at the moment!


FedExpress Says:

oh my berdy

u had him

deuce


FedExpress Says:

fed must be laughing right now


FedExpress Says:

venus imploding


Brando Says:

Berdych’s lost this but that said:

It’s great to see he- a none absolute elite player- showing a pair. Showing he belongs out there, toughing it out. 0-6 down and then to fight hard: kudos to Birdman!

It’s what you want to see: the competition showing fight. Not just rolling over like we all-the neutrals watchers of this one anyhow- saw it to be in the first set.


FedExpress Says:

so fed vs nole

fed in two suppose he appears on the court


jane Says:

good job nole: found a way through and gains points on last year. but too many errors today.

great job from tomas: definitely better this year. a win over rafa, and sets versus andy and nole too. but still needs an extra gear.


Brando Says:

Fed v Nole it is as we all expected!

Credit to Tomas though to turn it around from 0-6 to fight all the way till the end!


jane Says:

#1 vs #2 in the finals. fed and nole have definitely been the most consistent for the last year.


Margot Says:

Bit of a masterclass from Fed, then a set of sheer jaw dropping tennis from Nole. Then????
Credit to Berd for not packing his bags after that first set tho.
Should be a cracker tomorrow. Unfortunately for us Rugby fans, could well be a clash…;)


jane Says:

“Then????”

that about sums it up margot. ;)


FedExpress Says:

i have a crash on azarenka


FedExpress Says:

azarenka choking


Okiegal Says:

What kind of crash…..a diet, maybe? :) ^^^^


FedExpress Says:

vika wins. first win over venus.

azarenka is back. only one who can beat serena on a regular basis.

sharapova is done


SG1 Says:

FedExpress Says:
come on berdych win this and then lose ur 3rd final
————-

LOL!


sienna Says:

@fedExpress
youre killing it out there.
keep it comming….


courbon Says:

FedExpress-if you going to call yourself by parcel and shipping company then you should choose
DHL, it would suit you better.

P;S; DHL stands for Delusional Hard Lunatic


Ben Pronin Says:

FedExpress is done. He should retire.


Brando Says:

LMFAO @ this comment:

Went on ATP website to see the verdict on Novak v Tomas. All fine. Thought let’s take a look at the user comments, and I saw this one first up:

Immediately thought- is that Wog Boy? Seriously LMAO nonetheless as I cannot believe this guy was serious if he meant this:

”He is an exceptionally smart man. No1e is a genius. After playing perfectly, he realized that Federer will resign tomorrow again. So, he started to act less perfect, hoping that Federer will collect enough courage to confront him in final. Playing pleasurably enough to win, and making enough mistakes to lure Roger to match. Good thinking No 1!!!”

ROFL!

It’s crazy the imaginative way people can interpret the game! Nole gave a set just so that he can boosts Fed’s courage to face him- ROFL! Wonder what Tomas thought of that charity to him.


Ben Pronin Says:

That’s pretty hilarious.


Brando Says:

^Glad you found it as such since it LOL’d hard at that one!


jane Says:

“When you play Roger, it’s always a great challenge. If you want to win you have to play your best tennis, especially against Roger in the final of any event, but here particularly. Because I feel like this is the kind of a surface and conditions that suit his game the best.”

yep: good luck nole!


chris ford1 Says:

Roger vs. Nole. Perhaps the most consistently competitive, high quality matches in terms of volume of matches in the Open Era on the men’s side.
Anyone that says they are sick of the 2 all-time Greats meeting, is crazy or dumb or both!
Maybe people will look back and see Rafa-Nole as being as good or better, but it isn’t there yet with the general excellence of Nole-Fed.

I just wish Juan Martin’s health had been better because no other player had the shining moments against all 3 greats that Juan Martin has had.


Daniel Says:

Let’s see if Djoko trend of winning final will continue. He have won hus last 5 after RG last year and 3 prior masters to that.

So far since IW last year (a whole full year – 52 weeks wise) he played 4 Slams won 2, 1 WTF and won (even so by default), 8 masters won 4, 2 500 tourney won 1 (can win one more tomorrow, going 2 out of 2) and played 1 250 and lost. He has 8 titles out of 15 tournaments played and either he will have either 8 out of 16 if he loses Dubai final or 9 out of 16 if he wins it. Pretty impressive last 52 weeks!

Hope Fed can have a say on that and we have a competitive match to spark the American Swing. This courrs suit Fed games perfectly and he is not much tested (played 2 less sets than Djokovic) so cab go all out in the finals.


skeezer Says:

Its really early in the year still, but gotta say 2015 is starting to look real good for Nole. AO Slam in the bag, and in the final @ Dubai with a quality field.


Hippy Chick Says:

Colin lol ive started to do exactly the same thing with Rafa,i record the match and check the result when i think its over,then watch the recording,if hes lost then your dissapointment is at least over and done with there and then,and you know what your letting yourself in for….


Yolita Says:

I hope that the Nole from the first set shows up tomorrow, or he will be toast. What happened was very strange. 47 UFEs after an almost flawless set.
Roger is playing really well, really aggressive and he loves this courts.
It will be a tough final for Nole.
In any case, he has already gained 120 points over last year, so I’m not complaining.
Here’s hoping we get to see Roger and Novak both at their best. I keep watching their matches, most of them are fabulous.


Hippy Chick Says:

I didnt see the match, but i was surprised that TB managed to keep it close after the first set bagel,unlike Novak to have a lapse like that,i suppose even the worlds best player is human,no horse in the race for the final just hope its a cracker,but i will pull for Roger as its nice to see him playing so well at this point in his career….


Hippy Chick Says:

Hi Courbon waves how are you?….


skeezer Says:

I find some comments here enjoyable as to the assumption that Nole may in trouble if he doesn’t play well. Really, against a 33 yr old? Didn’t know the old man is still so relevant :).
Fed is still beating Father Time by getting to another ATP final. Amazing.
Hope they both put on an entertaining match ( fingers crossed ).


Hippy Chick Says:

^Never under estemate Federer he is still playing great tennis,even at the age of 33,proving age is merely a number^….


Hippy Chick Says:

Estimate not Estimate damn typos….


Patson Says:

Skeezer hyping up Fed’s father time so that if Fed wins, he’ll use the final win in Dubai to justify that 2003-2007 was not a weak era because, well if a 33 year old Fed can beat Nole in Dubai, why wouldn’t he beat him in grandslams if Nole existed from 2003-2007? Skeezer will use this particular Dubai event – if Fed wins – to debunk the weak era theory for years and years and years and years and years to come. If he doesn’t win — well, it’s father time dumbos, what else did you expect ?

Skeezer’s strategy is very well thought out. Props to skeezer, the master strategist.


skeezer Says:

No worries Patson, I will be around when Nole turns 33 ;), will he still be playing?


mat4 Says:

The weak era theory… is just BS. If we want to go that way, I could honestly write that the second half of the nineties, and the period preceding Fed’s domination was the weak era, when a wild card could win WB…

Then, you have players like Gómez, Korda, Krajicek, Moyá, Muster, Stich winning slams. Cases like Bruguera, comming from nowhere and disappearing just like by magic.

Just put a Roddick, or a DelPotro in that mix… Even a Safin.

And then, with the exception of Nadal — who masterfully used his clay domination to build a psychological advantage over most of his competitors — Federer still has a positive H2H against Novak, Andy, and everybody else. And he didn’t play against them only in the period 2003-2007…

It will be more appropriate to speak of an exceptionally STRONG era from 2007-2015. Just look at those numbers:

Player Total Titles Grand Slam ATP Finals Olympics Masters 1000
1. Roger Federer 46 17 6 0 23
2. Rafael Nadal 42 14 0 1 27
3. Novak Djokovic 32 8 4 0 20
4. Pete Sampras 30 14 5 0 11
5. Andre Agassi 27 8 1 1 17
6. Boris Becker 13 6 2 0 5
7. Andy Murray 12 2 0 1 9
8. Stefan Edberg 10 6 0 0 4
9 Jim Courier 9 4 0 0 5
=. Thomas Muster 9 1 0 0 8
=. Gustavo Kuerten 9 3 1 0 5


jane Says:

mat4, the weak era theory? meh. some might say, or have said, nadal has won so much on clay because of a lack of clay great competition, which is, of course, utterly silly. some may say, or have said, fed won his early slams in a weak era, but fed beat everyone he faced, from safin to agassi, to roddick to hewitt. now some are saying it’s a weak era because of x, y, and z. it seems like it’s all kind of … slanted and enchanted depending on your perspective.

any way you slice it, fed, rafa, nole and murray have all been very successful players – there have been graphs published about the new “golden age” etc. fed, rafa, and nole all have stand-alone open era records at one of the slams, i think? and then you have players like berdych, ferrer, tsonga, monfils, who many – even here – have said would’ve won a slam were it not for the big 3 or 4. not to mention slam-winners delpo, cilic, and wawrinka, with kei, raonic and maybe dimitrov all pushing, and the potential of youngsters kyrgios and coric.

eh, tennis seems fine to me.

but to each his/her own.

and that’s the way it’ll stay. it’s much like the goat debate. for some it’s sealed, for others it’s debatable, for others, it just doesn’t matter.

poetry? grammar? maybe a bit of both? ;)


mat4 Says:

@jane:

Sorry, it wasn’t me — just commented the debate that started a few posts before.

I always thought that we lived in a golden age of tennis, that the players at the top were never so complete.

No grammar this time, just poetry.


Okiegal Says:

@Jane……great post @ 10:00.


jane Says:

mat4, indeed. i did realize that. and poetry all the way! :)
thanks okiegal.


mat4 Says:

@jane:

Did you watch Novak’s match against Berdych?


jane Says:

yes mat4. the first set was magical. the rest … sigh. nolecoaster in action. dropped first serve percentage and way to many needless errors.


mat4 Says:

jane,

I have a theory that Novak works on a different FH, played from more open stance and lot flatter. He also plays more often the “Rafa FH” to have more spin, and that he is in the middle of a major change. I rewatched after the match the third and fourth sets of the AO final, and I noticed that in the middle of the third set, the same thing happened: he opened his shoulders and started to play his FH from a different feet position. It seems to allow him to play a FH DTL on the run (when he use to play it only CC) with a lot of pop, and to have much more pace on the ball.

In the first set, yesterday, he hit harder than Berdych (120 to 110 kmh), but his BH was devastating too.

But to play that way, with the kind of racquet he has, the head acceleration has to be big, he has to be very lose, and it is not always easy.


danica Says:

Hippy Chick: “…unlike Novak to have a lapse like that…”.
Oh, but you are mistaken! Nole is very prone to mental lapses. You probably didn’t pay much attention when he plays, but he, more often than not, “gives up” sets for this reason. There are so many matches that come to mind. Wimbledon final last year being one of them. USO against Rafa in 2013. And so on…


Hippy Chick Says:

Well Danica it is against Berdych,especially when he is in such cruise control in a match, a player who hasnt actually beaten Novak or taken a set of him for two years,as for W last year Roger raised his level,USO 2013 ive heard that cliche a million times ie Rafa beats Novak because Novaks level dropped or wasnt at his best etc,Murray beat Novak in the W final 2013 because Novak played a marathon match against Delpo the day before,sometimes the other player raises their level or is simply better than Novak ….


Markus Says:

People who invoke the weak era theory to explain the dominance of some players in certain era or in particular surfaces are weak in the head.


Sidney Says:

I am ‘weak in the head’. ;) Now I know! I feel so much smarter.


Markus Says:

People who are weak in the head are also prone to errors in logical reasoning and are likely to make wrong conclusions based on the presented premises.


Sidney Says:

Keep em coming Einstein…


jane Says:

danica, hi, and very true! mat4, interesting, will watch for it. makes sense since one of their goals is to end points more quickly, and that shot can be a point decider.


skeezer Says:

mat4,
“I always thought that we lived in a golden age of tennis, that the players at the top were never so complete”
Now you might on to something there! That would be a more worthy discussion than “weak era” BS ;)


Okiegal Says:

Why do a few of the commentators bring up the weak era crap?? I have listened to them so long I got to believing it myself…..just saying…


Hippy Chick Says:

Jane i just think thats unfair to his opponents to always blame it on lapses,sure against Berdych it was as i said,but the other instances Danica refered to i believe were because his opponents were simply better….


danica Says:

Hippy Chick,
No. Simply. Nole, as Karlovic said, had no business loosing any sets in the Wimbledon final last year. Specially the forth set. Roger didn’t bring his level a notch, it was Novak who brought his down. Wimbledon against Andy was Andy’s win fair and square. Even if Nole had breaks in those sets, Andy was better and that’s the end of it. The fact that Novak had a more exhausting semis means nothing to me. It can be seen as an excuse but, oh well, tough luck.

There were other matches, like that USO final in ’13. I nowhere said that Nole would have won. I just said that those mental lapses very often were costly. Sets, sometimes matches, yes. And they are too numerous to be remembered, really.

As for excuses for loses, my stance is this: whoever wins, wins deservedly. And I apply that same standard to Nole. That means that the winner was better in that particular time frame (duration of the match) on that particular court. He adapted better to conditions (wind, sun, rain), was less exhausted, wasn’t sick, injured, played better, lost more points but played more important ones better… So, if Andy adapted to windy conditions better than Nole at the USO ’12, then, yes, who cares, he won deservedly.

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