Novak Djokovic v Andy Murray In The 2015 Montreal Final, Who’s The Pick?
by Sean Randall | August 16th, 2015, 12:34 am
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Here we go again, for the fifth time this year good buddies and longtime rivals Novak Djokovic and Andy Murray meet, and it will probably go according to trend, that is with the Serb winning, this time the setting is the Canadian Open Montreal final.

Earlier today, each former champion got there rather easily and efficiently unlike the previous round.

Djokovic ran his record to 10-0 (24-0 in sets) against the hapless and happy-just-to-there Jeremy Chardy 6-4, 6-4. Novak didn’t look great, but really, he didn’t need to against the Frenchman who other than in the first few minutes of the match, offered little in the way of opposition.

“Novak, at the moment, is the best,” said Chardy who’ll climb up to a US Open seeding. “Every time I play against him, I have a lot of problems. He returning really well and forces you to make a difficult choice all the time.”

“If you have a good head-to-head record against the player you’re facing, it gives you a little bit of a mental edge,” said Djokovic. “In crucial moments, that’s maybe what helped me hit the right shots at the right time.”

In the evening, it figured Murray would get a real test from the hot-handed Washington champion Kei Nishikori. But it wasn’t to be as Murray rolled a physically struggling Nishikori 6-3, 6-0.

“I think I’m more tired,” said Nishikori citing no real injury. “Everything was sore these couple of days. Today it got a little bit worst so I couldn’t really move 100%.

“Especially after the first set, I was feeling it more and more. At the beginning of the first set I was okay, but after that I wasn’t the same player.”

I guess beating Rafa will do that! And as I feared, winning Washington was just too much tennis for Kei.

The win for Murray moves him back to No. 2 for the time being, though Roger Federer will have a chance to reclaim it in Cincinnati.

So after Friday’s thrills and chills, today we saw two duds in the semifinals. But that said, it seems every day we go drama-free in Montreal, the next day it’s fireworks. And that’s what I’m counting on tomorrow with Djokovic and Murray.

Novak Djokovic v Andy Murray
It’s 19-8 in their head-to-head but the big number is the fact that Novak’s won their last 8. And he’s doing it by punishing Murray in those final sets.

6-0, 6-3, 6-0, 6-1. Those have been the last set scores of their four matches this year. Murray plays well early as we saw in Paris in June, but Djokovic just wears him down. He’s just been too strong, both mentally and physically.

And on top of that, there’s Murray horrific 1-14 record vs the Big 3 since the back surgery. That remains a serious, serious issue as we saw at Wimbledon last month.

“I’ve played him so often in big matches, including Grand Slam finals,” said Murray of Novak.. “We’ve had some good fights and some good moments. I know that anything can happen.”

We’ve seen what happens, Andy, and that is you lose.

But there’s actually some hope here.

Novak just hasn’t looked that sharp this week. I think Murray’s been the better of the two. Djokovic had to save those matchpoints against Gulbis and watching him play he seems to be using the event more of as an extended practice session, smiling, engaging the crowd, even playing doubles! While Murray’s been all business, and he hasn’t dropped a set.

Still, Novak’s No. 1. He’s got that ridiculous 30 match win streak in Masters Series and this close to the US Open he probably doesn’t want to give Andy any ideas or any edge. So unless Andy plays incredibly aggressive, serves well and goes for broke and connects, Djokovic in your winner.
The pick: Djokovic in 3

ESPN2 has coverage of the men’s final from Montreal at 3pm ET.


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238 Comments for Novak Djokovic v Andy Murray In The 2015 Montreal Final, Who’s The Pick?

the DA Says:

Please, you had Nadal and Cilic (yes, Cilic) going deep and Murray losing early in your original prediction. Now he’s “got hope”? You’re making it up as you go along ;)


danica Says:

Well, I am sad to say, but Nole will lose tomorrow. He looks lethargic, he has elbow issues, this is his first tournament after vacation. Andy seems sharper. Even if all I said about Nole’s drawbacks is taken care of, Andy has a chance, as he always does since he is so difficult and dangerous to play at all times. Andy will lose only if he mentally melts down. And besides, that losing streak against Nole has to snap sometime. I would rather it happens tomorrow than at the USO.


sienna Says:

can we turn focus to cincin?
We know the choke already and stick or bagel in final set.
#move on


Wog Boy Says:

Sean has spoken:(


jane Says:

danica, good points all round.


jane Says:

^ although i’d say it’s more than “mentally melting down.” it’s about who plays better and who’s in better form on the day, imo.


Michael Says:

Novak has got the better of Andy the last eight times they have played and that is bound to have a huge psychological bearing on this match too. Earlier, their H2H looked too close and Andy was thought to be a good match up for Novak. But now that has disappeared and Andy is not able to intimidate Novak the way he used to do it earlier.

But still, it is a 55:45 match considering that Novak is not playing his best in this tournament so far. Who knows ? He may have reserved his best for the finals like he did at Wimbledon ? While at the other end, Andy looks in great shape, form and confidence. His second serve has also seemingly improved and it is not so easy to attack as it was before and everybody knows that Andy is a master of placements, angles, strategies, tactics and change of pace. The scoreline against Nishikori would have done his morale a world of good and may be he would consider that this is the tournament where he can make it count by beating Novak.

All said and done, I go with Sean !!


Jock-KatH Says:

“We’ve seen what happens, Andy, and that is you lose.”

Never mind Sean’s caveat – let’s tweet this over to Andy. Then get the litmus paper out.


Giles Says:

Joker can’t win can he? He’s got an elbow injury, so he says! ROFL. He does the same sh!t every tourney before a final. One of these days it will be true.


Nikola Says:

After Wimbledon 2013 Novak will never gift anything again to Andy. So Novak in 2 easy sets.


Giles Says:

As for Kei Nishikori he is becoming a joke so far as I’m concerned, he plays lights out against Rafa and then claims fatigue/injury after getti g thrashed by Murphy.zThis guy will never win a GS. He’s “on” one tourney and injured/tired the next.


courbon Says:

I have to go with Danica’s statement.


Colin Says:

Nikola, you Nole fans need to make up your minds. Did he lose the 2013 Wimbledon final because he “gifted” it (whatever that means), or because he was tired out by the Delpo match?

As far as the last year or so is concerned, I am amused by the different standards applied to Rafa and Andy. We are endlessly reminded that Rafa had a dodgy appendix and surgery, while the predictions pour in that he’ll play until he’s about 40.

Andy, too, had physical problems and surgery, and an operation on your back is a damn sight more serious than an appendectomy. Andy could have been permanently in a wheelchair if it had gone wrong. Therefore the psychological pressure was greater for him. He now seems confident about his body, and if he loses this final – as he well may – it won’t be because of mental or physical weakness on his part. Mind you, he’d better get ready for lots of interruptions from that deadly malady, Serbian Elbow!


Giles Says:

Colin. I am highly amused by your post at 5 58 am. Nobody, as far as I am aware, has predicted that Rafa will “play until he’s about 40″. If only!!!


Giles Says:

Lol. Joker fans’ attempt at anti jinxing him is really laughable. Whatever …..


mat4 Says:

It will be a difficult match, and I agree with Danica, Novak is not playing well. He also played the semi in doubles, looked very relax even in his match against Gulbis, when he was on the edge of defeat, so I guess he’s here first and foremost to find his range for Cincy and the USO.

But you never know. He didn’t play quite well at Wimbledon in the first rounds — but he found his range in the final. He also probably doesn’t want to give that psychological edge he has against Andy.

BTW, Sean here is underestimating Chardy’s level in the semi. Jeremy played near his best. He was a bit tense at the beginning, but otherwise he tried.

Chardy, in his interview, mentioned that he was completely unable to guess where Djokovic would be serving — so versatile is his serve. It explains his poor result on Novak’s serve.

Before the match, the tv showed how Novak was anticipating Ernests’ serve. It was really instructive.


Wog Boy Says:

@Colin,
Did you make up your mind why Andy lost AO final, was it because Nole “faked” injury or because Andy’s back operation or his future wife distracted him with swearing (chauvinistic) at other player…it certanly wasn’t because Nole was the better player that day?


courbon Says:

Colin, there is no such a thing as a Serbian elbow but Floppy Legs Syndrom (remember AO final? ) (-:
You have to forgive my fellow Novak fans for over enthusiasm (time to time)-I think your man deserved every battle he fought against Novak and let the best man wins tonight!


FedExpress Says:

maybe that shanghai loss in 2012 after having so many MPs and chances affected murray more than we think. he came fresh from winning the us open final by beating nole and then played him again at shanghai masters and was crusing to victory till he choked. after that he won only one match against him though it was an importan one.

yes, he was injured in 2014, but so was fed in 2013. no point to discount these matches. a played match is a played match.

8 match losing streak will play into his mind. from 8-11 to 8-19 is just insane.

murray isnt a mentally tough player. and nole cant lose masters final nowadays (his masters finals record is compared to his gs final record just abnormal)


Colin Says:

Wog Boy, I don’t recollect posting contradictory remarks about the AO final. Mind you, these days I don’t recollect anything much from last week!

Kim didn’t swear at that tournament, did she? You are thinking of the match with Berdych at Wimbledon.

Nole faked, not injury but exhaustion, and Andy let this affect his concentration, so yes, Nole was the better player, if you regard such faking as a legitimate tactic. I don’t know if Andy’s back was troubling him during that match; if it was, he would normally have played through the discomfort.

Courbon, how dare you deny the reality of Elbowitis Noliensis! It’s in all the medical dictionaries…probably.


Wog Boy Says:

@Colin,
I do recollect but it doesn’t matter now since I realise you don’t even remember that Berdych SF was at AO and not Wimbledon, all good.


Gypsy Gal Says:

Agree with Colin Nikola what a load of rubbish….


Gypsy Gal Says:

Michael when do you not agree with Sean,is there anything you think Novak wont win lol?….


Gypsy Gal Says:

Novak looks to be struggling with an elbow injury,but regardless of that the very good looking Chardy(yes Okie i had noticed lol)was still no match for him,and Gulbis thankfully faltered in his match against Novak,Andy is a different animal but hasnt beaten Novak since he won W in 2013 and close matches mean nothing as a loss is still a loss,my heart wants Andy to win,but my head says Novak,its not a match up that i can say with much confidence that i look forward to though sorry….


Nikola Says:

@ Colin
Novak “gifted” Andy that Wimbledon in 2013. Period. Novak is a better player then Andy by far. Period.
U have Novak, little gap then Roger. Then u have big gap then Andy. Then really big gap everyone else till 25 in rankings. I am not a fan of nobody. Why is load of rubbish if i say that Nole give that Wimbledon to Andy? Explain me that?


courbon Says:

Gypsy, don’t be so sarcastic towards Michael. He knows very well that Novak can not win Superbowl, Six Nations or Premiership…apart from that , everything else is possible…


jalep Says:

It’s sad there has to be a final. Finals are so, so…final.


Gypsy Gal Says:

Courbon lol just some gentle light hearted teasing i needed it after the whole Stan/Donna/Kyrgios/Kokanakis ranting i did yesterday….


Gypsy Gal Says:

^Id still like to think some other players might actually win something this year though^….


courbon Says:

Gypsy, I got you. Whole thing was way overblown, though, Nick better change his ways ( I have to give him some slack being young and bit dumb ) otherwise he will never do great things in tennis…which would be a shame, considering all talent he has.Even McEnroe admits, that his angry behaviour ( in his days ) obstructed his career


courbon Says:

Gypsy, if Novak does not win one more tournament this year I think that he had great year-2GS, 4 Masters.Everything else will be bonus in my books…


jalep Says:

+1 courbon.


jane Says:

courbon I am digging your light vibe here and agree that Novak’s year has been great already 👏🏻


Daniel Says:

The problem for Murray is that even yesterday when he lost only 3 games he was broken. Actually he was broken in all matches he played this week so Novak eill certainly break hos serve. If Novak is having a great serving day his life will be easier and the key is how Murray will behave at fhe end of sets, when the pressre comes in and all those losses can humt him.

The best thing for him is have a great start and try to break beggining. Also, first as usal is crucial because Murray never won agaisnt Novak after losing first set so he needs it the most


Thangs Says:

Nole is full of drama, will do anything to win..Damn murray will get distracted and loose


Giles Says:

I do hope Murphy would have learned by now not to fall for the Joker’s on court antics. The man doesn’t have a clue how to play a fair game. always drama and MTO’s. Pfffffffffft


FedExpress Says:

ahh. now the arm “injury” makes sense. faker will always fake something


Ngentot Says:

@Giles,

“The man doesn’t have a clue how to play a fair game, always drama and MTO’s”

You surely talk about NADAL, right? As far as I’m concerned, Nadal is the KING of DRAMA: always hurt, knees, shoulders, back, apendix,and on and on and on. Not to mention the drama on court: disgusting antics before every serve, always break the time limit between serve, argue with the umpire and even intimidate the umpire (Bernades). LOL


Margot Says:

Come on Andy:
“Take care out there and do it to him before he does it to you.”
With thanks to the inimitable, the truly wonderful “Hill Street Blues.”


Giles Says:

@Ngentot. Nah, you’ve got your wires crossed surely. Rafa is the KING OF CLAY, not King Of Drama. He has had many injuries in his career unfortunately but has never faked one. If not for his history of injuries who knows how many more GS’s he would have won. BTW, Bernardes got what was coming to him and I am so pleased Rafa was able to stand up for himself and not allow a mere umpire to victimise and bully him on court. So say no more. At least Rafa has never faked his injuries, they have all been genuine.


Colin Says:

@Nikola:
The word “period” is not an argument, it’s mere bluster, just like the popular “end of story”.

If you claim Nole deliberately gifted that final to Andy, then the onus is on you to state the motive. Why in the name of sanity would he do such a thing?


Jock-KatH Says:

Andy – This is pistols at dawn – check the trees – if you see anything suspicious – don’t hesitate – FIRE!


Nikola Says:

@Colin

When i sow pre match TV coverage i knew it. I don’t know why.They can be many reasons. If one day someone can prove it i think that Novak should be fined.


Jock-KatH Says:

Top marks Colin: Am also fed up with posters who say “because I’m saying it, it has to be right”.


courbon Says:

Giles, you should see the doctor_Pfffft sounds like you have serious stomach problems…


Margot Says:

OMG just seen that silly “period” word! Have you got yours?


jane Says:

if andy wins today, is he assured of second seed for us open? he is way ahead in the race rankings

http://live-tennis.eu/race


Gypsy Gal Says:

Nikola that sounds so silly,great like champions DO NOT I REPEAT DO NOT gift matches,titles or GS to other players,you are doing Novak a complete diservice to say that,complete nonsense….


mat4 Says:

@jane:

Look at the “5 weeks ranking”. If he wins, Andy will have 8660 points. Fed drops before Cincy at 8075. Since I don’t know when they take the points in account, I am not certain. But he will have to win 350 points more in Cincy to be ranked second whatever Roger achieves there.


Gypsy Gal Says:

And there is no such thing as a jinx or a curse,its all an imaginary concept….


jane Says:

thanks mat4, so is that a “no”?

gyspy, agree. :)


mat4 Says:

If Andy makes the final in Cincy, he is assured to be seeded no 2 at the USO, whatever Roger does.

If Roger doesn’t win, Andy will remain no 2, since I don’t see him losing in the first round.


Gypsy Gal Says:

Jane thanks,believe me i get sick of ranting sometimes,but when people spout such crap,i cant help my hackles raising, sorry but sometimes grr….


Nikola Says:

@ Gypsy Gal

Maybe they have to. BTW u are so funny. All of you


jane Says:

thanks for clarifying mat4.


Colin Says:

On the subject of medical timeouts, some of Rafa’s are obviously only too real, with the cameras zooming in on raw flesh – unless Tom Savini is on his team.


Jock-KatH Says:

Be cool Nicola – you can also be funny…enjoy the tennis.


Daniel Says:

Djoko hold with a lot of first serves in.

Strange callby hawkeye, seema out wide as well…
30-30


mat4 Says:

Why does my stream work so well during the commercials, and so bad when the match is on?


Daniel Says:

Djojo did the most dificult to miss a sitter FH long, double BP now.


Daniel Says:

Both saved! 40-40. Last game on Murray serve was also long.


Daniel Says:

Djoko lost his touch when lobing😜


mat4 Says:

Novak is completely out of shape. How many easy balls did he miss in that game? 4,5?


Daniel Says:

26 min for 4 games but Murray got the break.

Murray more solid at the back of the court winning more baselines points so far


mat4 Says:

Novak lost his touch completely. He did a little bit of everything stupid in this game.


Daniel Says:

Murray’s FH is impressive today, dictating.


mat4 Says:

Novak has already 11 UE, Andy 5. That’s the difference here.


Daniel Says:

Murray leading, 4-1


Daniel Says:

Murray is driving his BH cross court with huge power as well.


Daniel Says:

Djoko chose the wrong side and misses the smash, 0-30. This set is totally Murray


mat4 Says:

Novak risks to lose big time here, and I don’t mean only an important final, but also much of his psychological advantage over Andy.


Daniel Says:

Crucial hold for Djoko, he could lose this set 6-1 if he had being broken. Now still has 2 more chances to break back.


Daniel Says:

Jeez today Djoko
Is making a bunch of weird shots and choices.


mat4 Says:

Unbelievable…


mat4 Says:

Daniel, Novak won’t break in this match, the way he plays.


Daniel Says:

Finally a great point by Djoko, 40-40


Daniel Says:

First break chance by Djoko.


FedExpress Says:

the only way murray can choke like a wta player. had BPs for a 5-1 lead. gone

4-3. mental case


FedExpress Says:

how many times have we seen this


Daniel Says:

Murray almost missed and now Djoko varying the game with slices to alternative power. Murray hits a BH long and Djoko gets the break back.

1 point and Murray would be serving 5-1 and now Djoko is serving 3-4. This seems will be another of theirs 1 hour plus set. Murray needs this set, if he loses this set afer how he was playing and leading, his confidence will be blown completelly.

He is pressuring all Novak’s serve so let’s see if Djoko will hold now.


Daniel Says:

Another wrong choice by Djoko trying to wrong foot


FedExpress Says:

murray is such a choker


Daniel Says:

Game Djoko, 4-4. Now pressure on Murray who knows that he let slip a huge oportunity to seal first set


FedExpress Says:

now see nole break again. have seen this script a lot the last years. and it annoying


mat4 Says:

While Andy is playing fantastic tennis, Novak is subpar.


FedExpress Says:

why play to nole backhand? sometimes i think these players are way too stubborn

and again. same mistake. but got away with it


Gypsy Gal Says:

I get a deja vu feeling whenever these two play each other,same story….


Daniel Says:

S$&t, Murray robbed an ace because he only had one challenging. Now deuce and that bad call can change everything


Daniel Says:

BP Novak


FedExpress Says:

vuck the umpire

fire this man. stfu. what a false decision


Daniel Says:

1 hour, 9 games


Gypsy Gal Says:

Mat4 IMO Novak seems to have raised his level,while Andys seems to have dropped….


FedExpress Says:

murray has been ****ed up big time here. that was an ace


Daniel Says:

2 best returnees and currently 2 best baseliners, hence they neutralize serve and play some long rallies


Daniel Says:

Murray got the game in the end, which is fair due to that ace he hit on 40-30.

Now Djoko serving to stay alive 4-5.


FedExpress Says:

hope this umpire will be teached after the match. he should be careful before saying it was def long. liar.


mat4 Says:

GG:

Even now, Novak plays far worse than his average. The shots he missed were often sitters. He gifted Andy crucial points in every single game.

His approach overall to this tournament wasn’t credible.


Giles Says:

Boooooo joker booooooo !!


Daniel Says:

Murray 2 points away from first set. Djoko looking tired alteady and grunting more.


mat4 Says:

N’importe quoi…


Daniel Says:

Double set point. Think if Djoko loses this set Murray will take in two. Djoko won’t engae in a long three setter here with Cincy loing and US Open as well.


FedExpress Says:

better player won the set.


Giles Says:

Murphy got the faker!! Kick his butt Murphy.


Daniel Says:

And it was great for Andy breaking to close the set as he will start serving first.

Don’t know if Djoko will feel the urge to go for another two sets. Unless he gets an early break and start serving vetter because He eas down all games apart from the first which he had 40-15.


mat4 Says:

Daniel:

That’s his fault. He played the semi in doubles, even after a difficult QF against Ernie. We could see how Murray is frail in tense situation, and that’s something Novak can’t afford to improve.


Wog Boy Says:

mat4,
I shouldn’t be worried, Montreal wasn’t objective:)


FedExpress Says:

why cant one guy sit in front of the hawk eye tv for every point and overrule every dals decision instead of letting the players challenge.

why have that system then ffs?


FedExpress Says:

2 BPs for nole. joke.


Daniel Says:

Well, the best way for Djoko just happened, breaking to love with a BH return winner. Let’s see if he serves better


FedExpress Says:

now starting to serve well where the set has gone. typical andy


Daniel Says:

Djoko playing much better second set, won first 8 points and is hitting more flat.
Think he willbe more agressive as well as he doesn’t want to play two more 1 hour sets.


Daniel Says:

40-0 love Murray serving and now 40-40


mat4 Says:

Murray held. Let’s see if Novak will find his usual consistency in this match. He made too many UE so far.


tennisfansince76 Says:

Joker is still no heat lover though he withstands it better since 2011. He has that glazed look today. A bit over cooked. IMHO the heat assist was what got nishikori into the Uso finals.


mat4 Says:

Ridiculous point…


Wog Boy Says:

^^ Spot on


Wog Boy Says:

^^for TFS76


mat4 Says:

TF76:

Despite the operation, a inborn nose deviation always leaves some consequences. Already 3-2. Novak will have to live with his many health problems: underdeveloped respiratory system, allergies, genetic ligament disease.


mat4 Says:

Murray breaks back with some good, freely hit shots.


mat4 Says:

The message is on the wall.


mat4 Says:

Incredible FH by Novak (my stream is late).


Daniel Says:

Djoko was broken but 15-40 on Murray game. One FH shank, still one BP


Daniel Says:

And he breaks again after Murray netted a FH that went long. Djoko will serve for 5-3. He better hold if he wants tomforce a third.


mat4 Says:

Some rare things: Novak yells for the first time in the tournament — has he finally decided to win this match? Then, the public is actually rooting for him!!


mat4 Says:

It appears Novak is saving himself from the heat.


Daniel Says:

Djoko to serve for second set, let’s see if he will put a lot of first serves in because Murray is very agressive on second serves the whole tourney.


mat4 Says:

Just a few Nole’s fans here, no Murphy’s fans, one fedfan.


Daniel Says:

30-0. Seems we’ll get a third set.


mat4 Says:

Daniel:

He is always aggressive, and, in my opinion, potentially the best returner in the game.


Daniel Says:

Noce drop shot from Djoko out of nowhere. Triple set point


Daniel Says:

And he takes, nice!!

Real fighter. The trick is in the hat😜


courbon Says:

Margot, stop hiding behind the sofa.On the end of the day, it’s just a tennis match…


mat4 Says:

We could see in those first two sets why Andy is so dangerous, and why Novak usually wins. Now, it’s time for Andy to change patterns.

BTW, Vajda will leave Novak next year. There’s a rumour he will become the director of the Serbian junior tennis development.


mat4 Says:

Of all the streams at my disposal, I found a British one — Murphy, Murphy, Murphy…


mat4 Says:

With good reasons, it seems now.


Daniel Says:

3-0 Murray with some fantastic points this game by him


mat4 Says:

Bagel, anybody?


Wog Boy Says:

Looka like a bagel:)


Okiegal Says:

Uh oh….a whole lotta elbow shakin’ going on…..


Wog Boy Says:

Breadstick..


courbon Says:

What are you talking guys??? Novak is on strict gluten free diet-he can not eat bagels


Okiegal Says:

I bet the serving arm can get ragged……


mat4 Says:

Expected Margot and the DA, not Okiegal…


Daniel Says:

Djoko playing too much to Murray’s BH. On BH Murray takes the ball on the rise and is doing most of the damage today, FH he always tales a little longer.


Wog Boy Says:

Gluten free breadsticks are ok..


mat4 Says:

Anyway, there’s not injury like a knee injury…


Wog Boy Says:

Guess what, Nole managed to hit one good overhead:)


Wog Boy Says:

Murphy against Murphy


Daniel Says:

Djoko and his amzing angles.
4th BP


Daniel Says:

Now Mueray choose wrong and can cost him. 15 min game


Daniel Says:

This is the game for Novak, if he loses good bye.


mat4 Says:

Andy is the better player so far, but Novak still made of this match a fight.


mat4 Says:

Good bye.


Okiegal Says:

Novak’s elbow seems to have eased up a little but serving might be a different story.


Wog Boy Says:

So it is good bye..


courbon Says:

Yaep, Murray wins this match.Bon nuit Mat4…


Daniel Says:

Wow Murray, counter lobby, nice!


Daniel Says:

Well, Murray still have to serve two more games assuming Djoko holds his. Djoko already had BP in 2 of 3 games Murray served this set so with his retunr he always have a shot.
4-2 Murray


Daniel Says:

This match looks loke Djoko made the worng shot selectuon almost half the time


Wog Boy Says:

Nole is staying without a food, not even breadstick for him.


mat4 Says:

Daniel,

Novak has lost. He needs a monumental choke to win this, because in his inner self he has surrendered.


Daniel Says:

5-2 Murray. Djoko has to hold and pass the pressure to Murray. Serving for the match will be tense for him so…


courbon Says:

Novak is tired-he should have big Leskovacka pljeskavica to give him strenght…


Jock-KatH Says:

I dare not breath, never mind speak. Margo need to share crystal moments….sometime


Jock-KatH Says:

breathe (it’s late)


tennisfansince76 Says:

Interesting that both players attempted to play shorter points early on presumably due to the heat but as the match has worn on they have reverted to playing their normal grinding styles.


Daniel Says:

Djoko has to hold and make Murryabserve to test his nerves


Daniel Says:

3 MP’s saved. If Muray doesn’t put some first serves in things can get tricky


Daniel Says:

15-15. Important point coming up


Daniel Says:

2 FH errors in a row. 15-30.


Daniel Says:

Wow, this point can’t cost him the match. He almost threw his racquet. Double BP and crowd fully behind Novak now


Daniel Says:

Second serve and Djoko puts a BH return in the net. Can’t break like this


jalep Says:

Proud of Nole. Could of been a bagel or breadstick the last set – he fought on and on…

Andy turns the table finally. Well done Andy Murray!

Congrats Andy and Andy Fans!

On to Cincy where it’s even hotter :/


tennisfansince76 Says:

Nobody and I mean nobody beats Andy Murray 9 times in a row!


mat4 Says:

Congrats to Murray. Great victory. My son is crying, so, guess I will forbid him to play tennis for at least a year, maybe forever.


Wog Boy Says:

Congrats to Andy fans, nice match.


tennisfansince76 Says:

I was saving that for the last 10 minutes.


courbon Says:

Bravo Andy! Margot, get behind sofa-he won it!
Congrats to all Murphy fans, good night


Daniel Says:

Well, Djoko had his chances. Now he complicate his life a bit more for US Open as Murray will be eager to take it.

Better win Cincy than here I think.

And now the rivalry is restored, beat Djoko inna Masters final since 2012 and almost assured to be #2 seed in US Open. Of Fed lands in Djoko’s aide there Murray will only habe to play one of hos recent nemesis ina final. Very important reault for him.

Hope Djoko takes Cincy now to complete the Masters


Jock-KatH Says:

YES.


Thangs Says:

good job Murray . So happy now


jane Says:

congrats to andy and fans – esp the da, margot and colin – what a battle today.

as for novak, i don’t feel too stressed. he fought till the end, along with andy, and andy was bound to get a win soon.

and also we novak fans can be so proud of this:

“This is 1st #ATP1000 masters final that #Djokovic has lost in 3 yrs. Nole’s winning streak of 12 masters final was longest ever in OpenEra.”

:)

to cincy then….


Markus Says:

I was brave today, watched the whole match. What a wonderful world! Congratulations to Murray and his fans. I have always wanted to say that.


courbon Says:

Daniel, Novak serve was crap-Murrays serve much better-that decided the match.


Wog Boy Says:

mat4,
Nole’s French…is it any good?


the DA Says:

Thanks Jane, Wog Boy, Markus et al. That was one of their better matches. That 15-minute game in the 3rd set was worth it alone. So crucial. Andy showed a level of mental strength that I haven’t seen since 2013. Good omens for the rest of the season.


sienna Says:

Djokovic really not so good on this fast Hc. Focus cincin the fastest court in the world….


Wog Boy Says:

courbon,
You are still awake, I’ll have “Žuta osa” for you and “jagnjetinu ispod saća”…soo f..ing good:))


the DA Says:

Andy announces that Amelie gave birth to a baby boy last night. :)

FedExpress – I hope this outcome wasn’t too painful considering your confident prediction yesterday ;P


Margot Says:

About bloody time! Comms to Nole fans but it had to happen sooner or later and, as we’ve all been saying, so much better for the game..;)
Thanks for the good wishes guys ‘n gals :)
Really, really liked Andy’s agressive! Brilliant! And much better 2nd.
So sweet Amelie gave birth to a boy today too. Was a good omen :)
Oh and thanks Sean…;)


Wog Boy Says:

the DA,
No probs, well deserved win, Andy was more aggressive player, Nole had his chances but didn’t use them. No complains from this Nole fan.


Margot Says:

Thank you Markus, that’s so sweet! And you watched it too!


Georgy Gal Says:

Congrats to Andy and Andy fans!!! Well deserved! Andy was playing brilliant tennis this tournament. I hope he has finally overcome his Djoko mental block and will win Cincy and USO! Time for this hugely talented guy to be #1 and win at least 6 gs before he retires!


mat4 Says:

@WB:

Sorry, WB, didn’t watch the ceremony. Had to have a manly talk with my son, you know, the usual men don’t cry, the world is cruel, etc.

Novak made a big mistake with his behaviour here. First, you don’t lose to an English in front of a French audience.

Then, I don’t get it. I know that he is trying to peak for the USO, but how did he think playing doubles would help him? What has he done here to be in form for the USO? It was much more logical to skip the event, like Fed, and to focus on Cincy…

What I didn’t like either was the way he choked, when he is not confident in his groundstrokes.

Such a victory promotes Murray as a legitimate contender for the USO.

In many ways, Novak’s behaviour at this tournament was counter-productive.


Wog Boy Says:

mat4,
Man does cry, I grew up in surrounding “man doesn’t cry”, I wish I cried sometimes.
Agree about doubles but I am pretty sure he was doing favor to his mate Janko, to try to kick start his return to game, that’s what mates are for. Everything will be ok..


jalep Says:

Congrats to Amelie and her baby!

Nice coincidence.


Okiegal Says:

Just got in from church, watching the recorded match and Andy did it!! This was a great match, fighting hard from both both players. Great match!! Exciting. Lots of deuce games. It don’t get much better than this!! Some unbelievable shot making from Novak, and still losing.


Okiegal Says:

Some clutch holds from Andy, and that’s no easy task when playing the #1 in the world!!

Congrats to the die hard Murray fans and commies to Novak fans, especially Jane.


Georgy Gal Says:

This is Djoko’s best season and he was playing at a very high level. But Andy was brilliant!!! Great shotmaking from both!


Okiegal Says:

@Margot……You’re the main die hard fan I especially want to congratulate! It was up and down but Andy played some awesome tennis today! Loved this match…..a real nail biter!!


Okiegal Says:

@Mat4 5:36

I’m confused…..You expected Margot and DA, but not Okiegal?? What did I do? Appreciate an answer, I’m really not sure what you mean??????


Tom Says:

Dear No1e, please stop playing doubles in these short tournies. We know you playing with Tipserivic is you thinking about 2016. You gave Andy and his supporters some false sense of belief that he’ll beat you in New York. Keep him down while you can.


Wog Boy Says:

Okie,
I am confused, you said you came back from the church and watched recorded match but you posted midmatch when Nole was shaking his elbow, or somebody used your moniker.


Okiegal Says:

@Mat4……Catching up on comments…..so sorry your son is upset. Don’t know his age, but children do have tender hearts. I remember taking my son to see Bambi and he cried his little eyes out. I was so sad I took him. I know Novak’s fans are disappointed , totally understand, but Novak is such a good competitor, it takes all hands and the cook to beat him! Such a fighter. Andy was serving so good today. He will probably take Cincy! Can’t see him losing two in a row…….


the DA Says:

“men don’t cry”

Oh dear. It would be far better for your son -and all his future relationships -if he learned that it’s completely okay. This kind of thinking is so last century. Trust me ;)

“You gave Andy and his supporters some false sense of belief that he’ll beat you in New York”

Nah, believe it or not, players are playing for themselves and aren’t primarily concerned with giving fanbases a sense of belief. Despite a weird elbow problem and heat struggles, he pushed Andy to the limit and forced him to dig very deep to win. Nobody believes that Novak is suddenly not the favorite for NYC. At least, nobody who has followed tennis for a few decades.


Okiegal Says:

@Wog Boy

My church starts at 5:00…..I watched the match until 4:50…..was late for church, I missed the first prayer. Got home at 6:00 and finished it. It was quite the exciting match…..I could relax and enjoy, since Rafa wasn’t playing.


Wog Boy Says:

Good, I thought somebody hijacked your moniker:)


Okiegal Says:

@Wog Boy…..If I didn’t know better, I thought you might be try to catch “The Church Lady” telling a lie……Lol. :)


Okiegal Says:

Watching 60 Minutes and the Ballard guy who found the Titanic, has found another ship…..so fascinating……almost as much as tennis!!


Okiegal Says:

@DA…..I’m with you about Novak and the USO. I’m wondering if he should do Cincy since the elbow is causing him a little problem. He has no time off for Cincy. How many days rest will he have before his first match? Is he playing doubles? Surely not….


Okiegal Says:

I wish more doubles matches were televised, but I guess that’s too much to ask. Tennis channel may cover them some, I’m not sure…. can’t get Tennis network.


Patson Says:

Congrats to all Murray fans: Margot and others. The better player won today.

Onto Cincy now. Glad that Nole is always there in the finals and semi-finals. You’re bound to lose some days. US open remains the ultimate prize he’s after this summer.


mat4 Says:

the DA, and others:

I was born in the previous century. Men don’t cry, they don’t have that luxury.

They especially don’t cry because their fav has lost a tennis match, or because they have lost a TB 14-12 missing 2 match points.

Tennis is just a game, nothing more. There will be much harder things to face. He’s got to be strong.


Margot Says:

@OK
Thanks for that :)
And Patson, you too.
OMG Mat4, I didn’t think you were serious about your son! How sad for him you feel like that. Men can cry whenever they want


Okiegal Says:

Mat4……You didn’t answer my question at 7:49….


danica Says:

People, Novak had elbow problems throughout the tournament, it is not something that he just invented for the finals. Please, if you believe in the injuries and maladies of your favorite player, give the same treatment to others. How can you prove someone is faking? Have you walked in their shoes? Have you ever practiced a competitive sport? Then, please stop with this ridiculous insinuations.

Today, the better player won. I knew Andy would win. It was bound to happen sooner than later. No one wins forever. As far as I am concerned, as a Nole fan, this was a great tournament. He reached and achieved more than last year, added new points and played another masters’ final in three hard fought sets.

Congrats to Andy and his fans.


Okiegal Says:

@Danica……None of the players are allowed to have injuries and if they do they are not to talk about it and play on…….. I have wanted to ask the same question myself……about walking in their shoes. I don’t see how they can play as much as they do w/o more injuries. The game is so physical.


jane Says:

great post danica, exactly!


jane Says:

okie thanks for commies, but it’s okay really.

mat4, sorry to hear your son was sad.
let him cry; baudelaire would my friend.
melancholy is a time to feel real truth.
it’s perfectly okay! :’ )


Okiegal Says:

I don’t see anything wrong with a men crying. That emotion is within all of us…..young or old.

U R welcome, Jane. Do you think Novak is safe to play Cincy? How many days rest does he have? Read where Me I pulled out. Probably a wide thing to do. He’s had his share of woes. He’s fragile……


Okiegal Says:

My stupid spell check…..should say Kei……


jane Says:

yeah, crazy because now the word is that kei is injured. his hip apparently. maybe his english isn’t great or he didnt realize he’d pulled something so soon after the match. but he’s definitely fragile.

must be difficult as jalep was explaining re: her training post.

not sure about novak’s elbow. sounds like something that gets aggravated. maybe he overdid it with doubles this week. but on that right side he’s had shoulder and wrist issues. a bit worrisome but trust his team will make the right choices. i hope!


mat4 Says:

It’s not about men crying. Men can cry… but not when they watch a tennis game. Men can swear, but not when they are losing at a tennis game, or when they drive a car. We have to made a distinction between important things and less important things. We are all born noble, and noblesse oblige.

He recently cried on a tennis court, after a match he lost in the TB 14-12. I was heartbroken when he lost that match, when I saw him so sad (I sent a picture to jane), and decided to help him — I devoted two hours three times a week to help him improve his tennis. That’s what men — and, just like in my own language, I mean also women — do: they fight, they fail, they fail again, and sometimes they succeed. His coach helped me with the technical details, and now that he works 10 hours a week he has improved a lot.

There will be time for crying — but not for trifles, not for things you can change yourself.

Crying, swearing, empty threats, yelling — I don’t care if it is socially correct or not — but it is a sign of self-pity, of self-indulgence.

Once again, I’ll quote the dominating moto of all human society: “criez pas de quartier! Lachez les chiens de guerre”.

Men don’t cry.


Wog Boy Says:

mat4,

I do get your point, but when I read your first post I had some flashback from my childhood.
When it comes on swearing while driving, give us a benefit of the doubt, my youngest doughter learned perfect Serbian while being with me in the car…though when she told mother new Serbian words she learned while being with daddy in the car, mother was horrified, I love my doughter..she is still very good in Serbian;)


mat4 Says:

@WB:

I also swear when driving a car — hopefully, I am mostly alone when I drive…


Wog Boy Says:

Unfortunately I am not, mat4. More often than not I was the one picking up my girsl from school or YMCA, but those moments are precious for me, they were very observant (sometimes too observant dobbing me in to mother that I was perving to another women alongside road) and very talented to pick new Serbian words that they never heard in normal conversation.


jalep Says:

Swearing and driving goes together, not when children are in the car, but in general.

Or, not when I go pick up Okiegal and take her to Cincy. No Swearing at all ;)


Markus Says:

Swearing is a learned activity that can be completely controlled by conscious effort. Crying is an emotion that can only be contolled up to a certain limit. I saw Jason day shed buckets of tears even before his last putt to win the PGA championship yesterday. He tried had to subdue it but when you reach a certain emotional point, it becomes impossible.


jalep Says:

Crying has its place – for anyone regardless of sex. But crying over a tennis match…no. Crying after real loss, yes.

Kei did withdraw from Cincy. I watched that match (Andy-Kei) after getting home from work. He appeared to me to his the ‘wall’.

It’s what I did suspect though. The Rafa match was too physical and it has to be frustrating for him. He probably doesn’t cry, or maybe he does; he’s very stoic. To me it appears that he knows how to play the top guys but when it gets to the semi’s or final – his body is has been stretched to the max and doesn’t have anything left. Maybe science can help him to recover quickly. It’s risky.


jalep Says:

…appeared to me to HIT the wall. Not his.

sure would like an edit option on this website.


jalep Says:

To clarify more, I meant crying over a tennis match on tv is silly, (not that I haven’t done it!)

Tennis players – athletes crying for joy is wonderful.


Markus Says:

That’s it! Thanks, jalep: Crying for joy, that’s the crying that is hard to control and perfectly acceptable. Crying for losing is somewhat unsportsmanlike and really not pleasant to watch.


Markus Says:

That’s it! Thanks, jalep: Crying for joy, that’s the crying that is hard to control and perfectly acceptable. Crying for losing is somewhat unsportsmanlike and really not pleasant to watch.


Markus Says:

There’s my double post again! Sorry.


jalep Says:

Well, crying is debatable, but like I said, it has its place.

Something hard to accept, a loss, a realization for example that you can’t realistically achieve what you dream – that takes an adjustment. It really took me about 3 years to get over the realization that I couldn’t run marathons. Sounds silly and self-indulgent in retrospect. The key is adjusting – tears of frustration were hard to suppress.


jalep Says:

I hate it when I double post. And really long for an edit button.


Okiegal Says:

@Jalep…..No swearing on a road trip with all the crazy traffic would be a tall order! Lol I know it’s a common thing to use expletives in certain instances, I still stand by my statement, I don’t think a sports venue is a place for it. Also, you can let it fly on our road trip! I still don’t know where you live????

One more thing, I have trouble remembering who everyone’s favorite is from one week to the next. Having said that I don’t congratulate fans individually very often unless I can remember for sure for sure who their face. Don’t want to slight anyone, so maybe a generic “kudos” to all the fans would be best. So to all Andy fans, a big CONGRATULATIONS!! My sympathies to all Novak fans, but no crying…….I remember when my son played his last career high school baseball game, his team got to the state semi-finals and lost. Most of the boys on the starting nine were crying. My son why are they crying, it’s just a ballgame. Different strokes for different folks…..but children have tender hearts. Emotions are part of the human make up…..I suppose they’re there for a reason just like laughing, anger……

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