Novak Djokovic v Roger Federer In The 2015 Cincinnati Final, Who’s The Pick?
by Sean Randall | August 22nd, 2015, 7:42 pm
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The final is set in the last tune-up before the US Open begins in 9 days or so, and it’s a blockbuster. Novak Djokovic will try to win his first Cincinnati title and complete the Masters sweep against Mr. Cincinnati himself, 6-time champion Roger Federer.

Before I get to the pick, a quick wrap of today’s semifinal round, which turned out better than I though it would be.

First, Djokovic came out a little weary against the tricky Alexandr Dolgopolov. The two played a tight first two sets in Miami this year before Djokovic ran away with the third. And that’s what happened today.

Dolgopolov jumped out early with a quick break. They then traded a bunch of breaks before the streaky Ukranian took it 6-4.

Midway through the second, Djokovic overcame an injury scare with a stomach muscle. And as he was getting treatment there was some serious talk on-air if he would even continue. But the Serb popped a few pills, returned to the court, upped his level a little and took the breaker to win it.

With the stomach issue a thing of the past (or so it seemed) and Dolgoplov’s belief fading, Djokovic cruised in the third to win 4-6, 7-6(5), 6-2 and reach his fifth Cincinnati final.

It was far from Novak’s best performance – though playing Dolgopolov is never a straightforward process – but he won, and as long as that muscle ailment isn’t a concern, he should be fine.

“When I was 0-3 in the tiebreaker it all looks like it’s going to go [Dolgopolov’s] way,” said Djokovic. “But I managed to dig deep and refused to give up. That’s how I won. Basically the same as against Goffin, and that’s how I won today.

“I was not very happy the way I played,” added Djokovic. “But, again, a win is a win. I managed to do that because I was always there fighting.”

Next was a scintillating match-up between Federer and Andy Murray. Federer’s really dominated Murray the last year or so and with Murray having played so much tennis, especially the last two days, I thought this would go two sets to the Swiss.

Federer, who’s looked so very good in his first event of the summer – though against very comfortable competition – had that aggressive mindset all day and I thought Murray was just a little heavy in the legs. Murray put up a good fight and played better than I thought he would, but Federer was just too good in the end.

Federer now leads Murray 14-11 winning their last 5 with 10 sets in a row!

So for Andy, I wouldn’t be that concerned going into New York, although if Roger gets his No. 2 ranking back that could be an issue!

“I feel okay,” said Murray. “I’ve done well to recover from some tough matches. It’s good. The positive about losing today is I get the opportunity to have an extra days’ rest and recovery. I need that.

“I didn’t feel too bad on the court. There wasn’t many long rallies today, which helped. I served well, so I was able to get a lot of free points there.

“Maybe the first shot after the return he was just a little bit slow there. Against Roger, he’s extremely dangerous off the first shot of the rallies. A good example of that is the 5-all point in the tie-break. I hit a pretty good return and just couldn’t quite get to that ball and hit a good shot there.”

As for tomorrow…

Novak Djokovic v Roger Federer
This one is even-steven 20-20, so Sunday night someone will hold the advantage. Will it be Federer again on top in this rivalry or will Djokovic get his first career edge on the Swiss?

Based on what I’ve seen, the answer is Roger. Forget that he’s 34, the guy hasn’t lost serve yet and he’s playing incredibly well, incredibly efficient and he loves playing in Cincinnati – he’s won it six times, never losing the finals!

Meanwhile, Novak’s looked patchy, leaking errors and appearing flat, almost disinterested sometimes. He should have lost a few days ago to David Goffin who was up two breaks in the third before colossally choking the match.

Djokovic played much better over a mentally-tapped Stan Wawrinka yesterday, but again today he looked a little wobbly.

And Djokovic has never won this event even losing twice in the Cincinnati finals to Roger. A fact neither can dismiss.

“Of course somewhere in back of your mind you do have that awareness of what’s at stake, but generally it’s a match like any other,” said Djokovic. “I just want to believe that fifth is the lucky time.”

In the end, I expect more great serving from Roger, more attacking on this quick court – like Dubai when Federer beat him.

“It would be great to win another Masters 1000, especially here in Cincinnati,” said Federer. “Going for my seventh here is just great. It’s wonderful to be another finalist because coming here now I’m perfectly prepared for the final.

“I’ve been practicing and away from the game since Wimbledon. It’s not that long, but in tennis terms one month is a long time. I’ll give it all I have tomorrow. It’s going to be tough. Couldn’t ask for a tougher opponent than Novak.

“Hopefully I can take advantage of the fact that I’m fresh and ready to go.”

Djokovic will raise his level, I have to think. Higher than we’ve seen. But like Stan denying Novak the career Slam in Paris, Roger denies Novak the career Masters sweep here.
The pick: Federer in 3

Would it surprise me if Djokovic wins, or wins easily? It wouldn’t. Novak’s No. 1 for a reason and he’s had the upper hand on Roger the last few years. I just think here the surface and confidence levels favor Federer. At Wimbledon, Federer was also playing well, but so too was Novak, better than he was here.

That said, after being upset last week by Murray, Djokovic probably doesn’t want to be on losing streaks to both rivals going into the US Open.

ESPN2 has live coverage starting at 1pm.


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327 Comments for Novak Djokovic v Roger Federer In The 2015 Cincinnati Final, Who’s The Pick?

ckr Says:

I agree with Sean’s pick. Djoker is playing really crappy from past 2 weeks. Credit to him that he got to two masters finals with that kind of play. He should have lost to Gulbis, Goffin, Dog. My pick is Fed in straight sets.


Skeezer Says:

Agree with Sean also, Fed is playing well, but take a look at the end of his analysis, he wouldn’t be surprised if Nole wins. Me either.


danica Says:

Federer in better form. Nole is struggling. Thus, Federer in two. Hope Nole wins, I would LOVE it, completing all the masters plus the WTF, that would be HUGE. But Roger is 6 time champion there, and Nole is only 4 time finalist. So, I expect Roger to win but would not be surprised if Nole does.


andrea Says:

love federer’s ensemble. that deep pink is really nice.

can’t believe the dog lost both his final points in the breaker to give novak an escape. tragedy.


Michael Says:

Roger definitely holds the edge in these fast hard courts against any player including Novak. That said, it will also depend on the way Roger plays in the finals. If he shows the form that he is so far showing this tournament, then he is safely home aided by the fact that Novak is not playing at his best and he also looks a little jaded and also confronted with injury scares.

But you cannot completely dismiss Novak’s chances either and he would be giving his best as he always reserves his best for the final. And lately, he has been dominating this rivalry.


chris ford1 Says:

Poor Andy! He is playing the best tennis of his life yet far more often than not, loses matches to a suddenly hot Fed and Nole. Who, in the last 2 years, poor Andy has been 1 of 14 against.

Feds level of play this week makes him the favorite, but I wouldn’t mind Nole getting it and being the 1st to finish the Master’s Sweep/
I wouldn’t mind seeing Rafa win a WTC.
I wouldn’t mind Andy winning Davis Cup.
I wouldn’t mind most of all, Nole winning the French Open.
And Roger is already doing the stuff in his twilight years that only enhances his history in the game. Maybe making #1 again isn’t going to happen, or another “Slam win”…but Federer is still dangerous. He can take Nole and Andy at times, can destroy other Top 20 players, still can play all surfaces and make all his shots when not hurt or fatigued..


Flyer Says:

This match difficult to call – Fed is by no means a “shoo in” to win the title.

Djokovic has been playing very solid even in his close matches – his opponents played some fine tennis indeed – and their efforts should not be discounted just because Djokovic did not blow them off the court.

Federer will need to have his form and serve be on track from the first point and stay focused all match long or Djokovic could gain the advantage early.


Travis Bickle Says:

Similar to Sean, but slightly different – I say Novak in 3, but wouldn’t be surprised if Fed wins too.

I say Novak in 3 simply on the fact that he wins anything that matters against Roger lately. Therefore, if Novak is not afraid of aggravating his injury and wants to give his 100%, Fed has no chance. On the other hand, if Novak feels that ab muscle or his elbow from last week, he may not want to go full speed and may try to preserve his body for the more important tournament next week.


kriket Says:

this reminds me of Wimbledon. Everyone talking about “vintage Fed” etc. We know how that ended.


Skeezer Says:

kriket,
Yes we all know how that ended. And how it should end, Nole is in his prime, world ranked #1 by a mile. But it says something that the guy who seems to have the best chance against the dominant one is 34 yrs old. Can he do it one more time? Or will Novak show his superior youth and use it. Cause by skill set alone everyone on the planet knows whos toolbox is better. Age is a b!tch.


Skeezer Says:

Yes could be an ab muscle, elbow, hip flexor, sore lip, hangnail, loose contact, and maybe a bad day of cheating earing a non gluten pizza. Then … the MTO will help, nonetheless.


Travis Bickle Says:

Skeezer,

You forgot mononucleosis…


FedExpress Says:

Yeah, if nole wins : wow what an amazing player, played his best when it mattered. No one can reach him
if fed wins: nole was tired, wanted to preserve is body, fed only took advantage of this, would have lost if he had faced a 100 % fit nole

Legit


nits Says:

In coming USO all Big 3 are contenders that’s a good thing


skeezer Says:

@TB,
Are you insinuating Fed? He never took MTO’s for mono, lol.
Hows the Taxi driving?


Georgy Gal Says:

Doesn’t matter who wins. But Fed has been playing amazing so far.


Travis Bickle Says:

I just noticed you have 2 accounts – one is Skeezer with capital “S” and another one is skewer…
No I’m not insinuating, I leave that to you with things like sore lip, hangnail, etc…

By the way, Skeezer (and skeezer) MTOs are within the rules of tennis, the same way as the strategy of not showing up at a final of the World Tour Finals due to injury so bad that it doesn’t allow one to play in the final, only to show up in Davis Cup in a few days and run around like a spring chicken. Nothing illegal there, within rules of tennis game – so I’ll leave insinuations to Federinas with two (or perhaps three or four) accounts like yourself.

In all seriousness, I respect you and think you are different than Fed Express or Siena (i.e. you’re sane) – but I stand by what I said earlier – Novak beats Roger in any match that matters lately, look at their matches last 1-2 years…
Does Cincy matter to Novak? Yes, if it does not mean aggravating an injury and ruining his chances for US Open. So real it is up to Novak tomorrow as was the every match the two of them have played for the last two years or so. He is simply the best player in the world right now and you know it – and more importantly Federer knows it!


skeezer Says:

TB,
You lost me after “by the way”.
Trying to tie a plethora of MTO’s vs. one withdrawal due to injury is pathetic. Besides, your fav still holds more of those over Fed, no? You shouldn’t whine in these matters.
As far as Novak being #1, no argument there, shouldn’t he be? His best competition nowadays is a senior player @34? Lol.
Btw…..tried Uber? ;)


Travis Bickle Says:

Uber is going down…

I did not realize you are that slow Skeezer/skeezer. OK, I’ll repeat it for you – MTOs are within the rules of the game, same as TOs in basketball.
It would be hilarious if some delusional fan claim that a basketball team won because they took three TOs in the last quarter.

Federinas syndicate should lobby with ATP to outlaw MTOs – only then your whining would have any sense. Until then, guys will keep taking them as they are allowed by the rules, For instance, today Dolgo took one just to refresh his feet (cameras showed NO blisters) – I didn’t see Novak or any of his fans complaining. Why? Because Dolgo did nothing against the rules.

Federinas have been humbled harshly these last 3 years (last GS 2012) so they keep coming with irrational complaints – here is a suggestion for the next one: two-handed backhand is unfair and using it is a PURE gamesmanship…


dapris Says:

I really hope nole wins this. Too bad he doesn’t seem to be in top physical condition because federer I’d always there for the taking.


danica Says:

I am at a loss when Roger fans bring up this rhetoric: “Not a big deal when Novak wins over Roger since Novak is in his prime and Roger is 30whatever years old”. As if Novak never beat Roger when Roger was in his prime. And that was Nole still a youngster, an up-and-comer who had years ahead of him to polish up and better his game. Roger himself said a few days ago that he thought he was a better player now than what he had been ten years ago.


Wog Boy Says:

@dapris,
Welcome to TX and Nole fan club here, glad to have new Nole fan here, there is no to many of us here but we prefer quality to quantity.
If I remember well Nole hasn’t rich 30% in “who is your pick” for Wimbledon final, similar situation now, we’ll if it is going to be similar result, as far as I am concerned Nole can take a brake until AO next year he already achieved so much this year to be worried about today outcome.


Tennisfan Says:

Probably Roger thinks he has more experience in his game today than 10 years ago, but does anyone seriously think Roger today plays better than he did in 2005? Its good that he has confidence in his game, but obviously his reflexes are now slower due to him being older and consequently his game has declined.


Wog Boy Says:

Dino Zoff was the best goal keeper in the world and won world cup with Italy and he was 40 years olad, he replaced his lost reflexes, due to his age, with his experience and better positioning , so Roger might be right that he plays his best tennis now, his experience and perception are better now than 10 years ago and help him to be at the place at the right time when he has to be. I watched his return and his movement and choice of shots last night, absolutely top notch.


sienna Says:

ofcourse MTO are within the rules but using them midset while not injured is considered gamesmanship in my book and U happen tot be a very good standard.

toilet break/ MTO etc should be midset.


viki Says:

As far as, GOAT debate is concern, the thing which has been done first time and their difficulty level should have a greater say in it.

Roger is far ahead of everybody in this department and after the age of 32, whatever he is achieving, is a matter of fairy tales. So we can’t ignore his age factor. Talking about that i am playing / feeling best is just a ploy like other player use MTO and underdog status as a ploy. But for Federer, it is not working now like MTO will not work for Nadal now.

Nadal also has done many first like winning a single grand slam 9 times and numerous record on clay which i think will be unachievable in future, and have the credential to be consider as GOAT.

Djokovic does not have any first. But he has great oppurtunity to do that. Because of this, i think he should win today. And if he wins US Open, i think he has very good chance to be holder of all four grand slams at once. So to be part of GOAT debate, he needs these titles. And as far as, injury is concern, i don’t think, he is injured. It just a tactic, to take some breather and think about the game and to distrupt the momemtum. because when good players are playing winning is decided by only 2 – 3 points and if you are mentally strong these breaks will give you strength but it will make less mentally strong person a nervous.


sienna Says:

So in fact Travis Brickle has agreed with his comment that Novak uses his MTO as basketball team uses TO.
So actually agreeing that he is greatest poser of all time.
#GPoat


viki Says:

For Today my pick is Djokovic.
Because he raise his game against Federer like Nadal.
Major factor Djokovic is winning everything is improvment in his serve, when you are the best baseliner in the world, a great serve will make your service game difficult to break.

At clutch points, he always serves well, i think because of this new improved service at clutch points he won the Wimbledon.


FedExpress Says:

Nole hasnt won one RG yet and still some start the goat debate.


FlyingDoctor Says:

If novak serves like he did all year, hes my pick. But his serve looked lost in Montreal and here. If he finds his rhythm on serve i think he’s gonna win


FedExpress Says:

Agree, nole turns in terminator mode when he sees fed.

and fed crumbles. He should learn the lesson that he can take one point for guaranteed. Even if he is 6-0 5-0 40-0 up against nole these days. Till 2009 it worked in grand slam matche that he knew he has nole under control (apart from ao 08) but that that us open semi in 2010 changed the whole dynamic of the match up. In the first and third he broke nole to take the set 7-5 . Same situation in the 5th. Too passiv and pays the price and then surrendered the break so easly.

many times when couldnt close the set or match out he loses his very next service game? Why? His experience in such situations should have given him some insight.


FedExpress Says:

@dapris

fed is always there for the taking??? U mak better jokes than me i have to say


Margot Says:

Goooooo Nole! Andy wants that No 2 spot at USOpen!


viki Says:

@FedExpress
I already mentioned, To be in the GOAT debate, Djokovic should win today’s match to be first man/woman to win all masters and Golden grand slam.

For Golden slam, let’s not get too much ahead but if he wins US open, he has a good chance. Australian open, he can win, at present, also i give him 90 percent chance of winning it.
If he wins French open to complete his Golden slam, it will be one of the golden moment of tennis history.


FedExpress Says:

He wont. This year was his best chance. Wont get a better one. Think somebody new will emerge. Noles career will remain incomplete


viki Says:

Ok lets first see US open.

US Open and French open are tricky for Djoko. If he wins US Open, he has good chance.


sienna Says:

Murphy wants #2 for US!

Just the way the puser gets his place in history.
others need to falter for him to excel.
Only Lendl could get him started moving. but not enough for the liking of him.

Totally deserving his #2 spot of course. (Not)


sienna Says:

Viking!

To be in GOAT debate a player needs #17.

If anybody think masters are slightly considered GOAT measurement material they are deluded.


Giles Says:

Why does Murphy want the #2 spot at US Open?


Humble Rafa Says:

Some cats are going to get starved today I think.


wilfried Says:

My pick is Djokovic.
Novak may not be able to deliver his best level during an entire match at the moment, but his best level did emerge everytime again at crunch time, against David Goffin as well as against Dolgopolov, and he prevailed in the end.
I think he will do it again if necessary, against 6-time champ Roger Federer.


Jock-KatH Says:

Nole’s motivation to beat the Fed. is to enable his good friend Andy to acquire the No. ranking at USO. For goodness sake, Margot, what other motivation could there be?


Jock-KatH Says:

Error correction: “to acquire the No.2 ranking”


Okiegal Says:

We’re kind of jumping ahead of ourselves aren’t we?? What if Novak’s tennis elbow gets worse??

I won’t be surprised if every set is a tiebreaker. I’m going to pick Roger…..Novak has been getting off to slow starts this week, can’t do that against Fed, he will make you pay! After all, Federer is better than he was ten years ago……if he beats Novak today, it might make me a believer!!


TL Says:

“Federer, who’s looked so very good in his first event of the summer – though against very comfortable competition – had that aggressive mindset all day and I thought Murray was just a little heavy in the legs.”

“comfortable competition” is the key here. The moment he ran into Murray, it wasn’t comfortable anymore. Fed got just a touch lucky at the end. Otherwise, it could easily have turned messy and Fed does not inspire confidence in final sets against top players. Murray put up a very good show in the second set despite the heavy legs and it seems his serve is becoming more consistent now. I loved his reaction after the match finished. The briefest handshake and the swiftest disappearance from the court. It showed that, in spite of the fatigue, he came into the match determined to beat Fed and was quite livid at the missed chances and tough luck. He knew he was very close to taking it into the third. That is the type of hunger and desire that I have seldom sensed before but I could be wrong there. I get the feeling that only Djoko can stop him at the open.

From Fed’s perspective, it was good that he didn’t peak too early unlike at wimby but it remains to be seen if he can raise his game against Djoko. He got a decent match under his belt, though. Djoko has struggled but he, like all great champions in their prime, is always able to raise his game and shift to higher gears in big matches especially against Fed. I expect nothing different in the final since it is not going to be very hot. Djoko, in all likelihood, will not miss at crucial points the way Murray did. I expect Fed’s serve to come under severe pressure. If Djoko serves the way he has been this year, Fed has no chance because it seems Fed is having trouble reading the new Djoko serve whereas his own serve has no surprise element for Djoko. Fed was having issues hitting through the court against Murray and this surface is certainly not as quick as it used to be a few years back. Fed has to do it in two sets and that can happen only if Djoko does not have a great day at the office. I can’t seem him winning if it goes to a third unless Djoko has any fitness concerns. Given the way Djoko fought against Dolgo, it appears as if he is very keen on winning this event and even he thinks it would be a great achievement to have all the mandatory masters events under his belt. I pick Djoko to win in two or three sets although stranger things have happened in the past.


Margot Says:

Before Sienna starts bigging up Roger’s chances in the USOpen and beyond, she might like to consider that out of 12 epic five setter matches. Roger has won 3.
This is when Roger “at his best” played another player, also “at his best,” and is nothing to do with the aging process.


calmdownplease Says:

If Roger can’t win this one it will be a disaster
All that guff about forgetting he was on in 3 hours
Purleaze!
He needs this, he’s aiming for it and if Novak can STILL beat him when everything is apparently going his way…..
Well, that is a pretty definitive outcome in this rivalry.


calmdownplease Says:

A well know fact when one was actually able to mine the old ATP site for Information
Andy has been giving him a run for his money recently, don’t you think Margo?


jalep Says:

Excellent points, TL, thanks. Meant to mention this way back on the Federer better than ever thread, haven’t missed a post of yours. Very much agree with the ‘comfortable competition’ and Murray not being that for Federer. Doubt very much Fed would have won in a 3rd set.

I’m very keen on Nole winning this title, today it’s a deal to have all masters titles. Hope he has the energy to do that today. Your assessment about Fed needing to do it in 2 sets and what you have to say about Nole and fitness concerns also rings true to me.

Only one suggestion. You might think about shortening your posts a little or breaking them up into 3 or 4 separate posts. Posters tend to only skim the long ones and will miss the points you make. Longer posts account for posters not commenting last week I think. In my case, just pure bad timing – work, ect. Have been meaning to say – great to read you here.

Cheers.


Margot Says:

And Andy’s is 17-7


skeezer Says:

Amazing how Fed has a poor record of 5 setters but is the all time record holder of Slams. So he must of been “at his best” more than not. Darn those stats.


sienna Says:

Livid at the missed chances?

This is mind blowing because he had so many BP?


assia Says:

@margot…I’m not a Federer fan but I don’t think you can count the 2013 loss to Andy as Federer at his best playing on an equal playing field. Federer was in his 32nd year and had come off a long match the match before (he has always been vulnerable since he turned 30 after a long match in the round before) while Andy was in his prime years for winning slams.
A lot is made of Andy giving Federer a hard time but that is his only win against Federer in a slam (there is no way Fed should have won so easily at nearly 34 at Wimbledon against someone who is 28) and that seems to me to give Federer a very clear edge in the history of their rivalry and also answers some of the questions about the weak era.


Sirius Says:

And what does andy do with that 17-7??


mat4 Says:

@skeezer:

Are you also “Skeezer”?

About the five sets records:

It just means nothing. In fact, it doesn’t even mean that he was in form in those matches, and that he played somebody in form.

It is a subjective view, but for me that poor record in five-setters is just the consequence of Fed risky game: you can’t easily sustain the level needed to play that kind of game in long matches.

About Novak:

I just found half an hour to read about the consequences of playing in heat and humidity. Novak did it for two weeks, playing mostly in the hottest part of the day. It’s very difficult to recover fully in those conditions. Knowing that, just like the organisers know, I don’t understand why he didn’t play at least one night session, when the conditions are less taxing. There were plenty of occasions, the match against Wawa, e.g.


elina Says:

“To be in GOAT debate a player needs #17.”

But yet there is a debate.

This match is over before it has begun.

Roger is 6-0 in Cincy finals and Djokovic is 0-4. Djokovic hasn’t even won a single set in those finals. The wind, heat and humidity on a fast hard court just don’t suit him. Also why he has just the single US Open title.

Nole will break his serve but Roger in two is the pick.


Humble Rafa Says:

Darn those stats.

Stats are like your gf. You can pick what parts you like and focus on them and ignore the parts you don’t like.

If you torture the stats severely enough, they will confess to just about anything.


Humble Rafa Says:

Cincy is too fast for the Egg Lover. The tournament surface is so different from the US Open that it doesn’t matter who wins.


SkEeZER Says:

@mat4
Either or ….same spelling same dude.;)
@elina
Careful there your last prediction from the bakery didn’t work out.


elina Says:

@skeezer, the score was closer than the match. Federer never faced a break point and has now held serve 35 straight games vs Andy so plenty of gluten in those match stats at any rate.

Novak has lost all four sets to Roger in Cincy.

Expect Nole to look quite subdued in this one.


elina Says:

@skeezer, the score was closer than the match. Federer never faced a break point and has now held serve 35 straight games vs Andy so plenty of gluten in those match stats at any rate.

Novak has lost all four sets to Roger in Cincy.

Expect Nole to look quite subdued in this one.


SkEeZER Says:

mat4,
Do you know where Nole grew up how the weather conditions were? Maybe he never experienced much heat when he was in Serbia? Curious…


jalep Says:

Humble Rafa says:

“Stats are like your (boyfriend). You can pick what parts you like and focus on them and ignore the parts you don’t like.

If you torture the stats severely enough, they will confess to just about anything.”

Good one HR – Brilliant, really. (sorry about editing you a little there)

;)


Jock-KatH Says:

Margot @ 10.08 – Thanks for that link above – really interesting.


Jock-KatH Says:

Skeezer @10.56am

Bullseye!


Ronny Says:

Yup, the old man probably wins this one because Djoko has been playing like crap and looks banged up…


Margot Says:

That exactly proves my point about the biased nature of fan bases. No Fed fan challenges the rubbish Sienna posts because? Why, she’s a Fed fan of course!
Rocket science it isn’t.


SkEeZER Says:

Who’s sienna?


Margot Says:

And, for those of you jumping, I posted that losing 5 setter stuff, because I allowed myself to get right p****d off. How silly of me.


Georgy Gal Says:

Djok will try to win Cincy but USO is the bigger prize so he won’t risk injury. Luckily playing with Fed is never a grind as he is very aggressive. I will miss Fed when he goes. His style is different from that of Rafa, Djok and Andy so his matches with these guys are always very interesting. The boring matches are usually Djok-Andy and Fed vs serve bots. The best matches are Fedal.


cheat nadal Says:

Games of Roger and Novak are always interesting.

Roger is splendid at even 34 years old.


sienna Says:

But yet there is Goat debate?

Yes, but outcome can only differ when another player reach #17

Untill then nightynight.


skeezer Says:

margot,
Mellow margot got p****d off? No way! That was a first for me. :)


Georgy Gal Says:

Wow, I think the Fedal h2h really hurts Fed fans. Even today when Rafa is struggling and a shadow of his champion self, there are Fed fans who post under moniker cheat nadal. Wonder why the moderators allow such monikers. Surely a troll moniker is worse than a troll post because it is recurring with every post? Or moderation is reserved only for Rafa fans???


jalep Says:

Well, Margot, what I can admit is that I did start writing a defense post for winning all masters titles being as hard or harder than winning a number of GS’s.

Imo, winning all masters events is Huge. I was not agreeing with sienna there, at all.

But sienna has a point, unfortunately, about people and general tennis fans not taking note. I don’t know anyone in the real world who would grasp or appreciate winning all masters. Not very many even know how many GS’s there are in a year. But they have an idea that winning one GS is big.

Other times if I was going to say something to sienna about a dig she takes at Nole, Andy, ect, at least several others beat me to it and then some. It’s her opinion of Nole – I don’t like what she writes to slam him. But again, someone will beat me to it. I don’t feel a need to pile on.


Jock-KatH Says:

Darn right Margot – Do it again. Soon.
The Pundits and especially the “I know better than you” crap – just mouth off.

PS: Skeezer did get a “bulleye” re. one of the know-it-alls.


Margot Says:

Lol skeeze…”mellow Margot” back now ta….:)
jalep: just got cross for a nano second…don’t actually expect anyone to jump in.
Georgy Girl: irritating thing is I usually really like the way Fed plays, especially his movement and his willingness to arrack, attack…..it’s just SOME of his fans I can’t stand.
Kat: Andy will be No 2 by the end of the year, book it :)


Gypsy Gal Says:

Georgy Gal scroll the troll,best ignored,as a fan i always find talking about the love of a favorite,is much more positive,than talking hatred about someone you dont like,why even waste the nervous energy?….


jalep Says:

Oh dear. Is it too early to start drinking?


Rishi Says:

Hmm….20 minutes since the last comment. Where is everyone?


jatin Says:

Novak saved 3 break points. Some nice early exchanges so far.


FedExpress Says:

My heart


Margot Says:

First impression: Nole playing much better than yesterday. Fed maintaining attacking mojo.
jalep: Robbie K made samre point about Masters being hard.


viki Says:

Again great serving on crucial points. After getting two break points down, all first serves in with great angles.


viki Says:

Again great serving at crucial points. After getting two break points down, all first serves in at great angles.


jatin Says:

What a forehand by fed. Looking extremely sharp


madmax Says:

Margot Says:
That exactly proves my point about the biased nature of fan bases. No Fed fan challenges the rubbish Sienna posts because? Why, she’s a Fed fan of course!
Rocket science it isn’t.

August 23rd, 2015 at 11:34 am

Margot,

Correction.

I have called Sienna out many times for her posts, and where she has called out Murray and Novak, but I do it because I think she is unfair, not because I want to ingratiate myself to you. Past that nonsense if I’m honest.

You pick and choose your moments too, as you know.

And as for this five-setter stuff, great that you mentioned it, but you are morphing into Sienna with this repetitive nonsense. You are right. Fed does not have a good record in five setters, but who cares? Just love to watch him play. That’s a fact too.

Each to their own.

Sienna,

Pipe down will you. You do repeat ad nauseum.
We know that Federer is the greatest. We know. But let’s enjoy the match.

It could well be that he saves all his energy for this final against Novak and we have a smasher!

But, I would not be surprised if Novak came back from brink again. It’s what great champions do, and you have to love and/or admire him for that!

Come on Federer!


Gypsy Gal Says:

Hi Rishi and Jatin this is the poster formerly known as Hippy Chick,i hope you both enjoy the final,no horse in the race,but pulling for the old boy here….


madmax Says:

Match on!

Come on Fed! Allez!


Jock-KatH Says:

Gotcha Margot – and I do believe —–slightly hoping he retains that position after this Match.

Even without the Andy conection I am hoping Nole wins.


Georgy Gal Says:

Good post Margot!!!

Gypsy, I agree, let us focus on love for our boy and love for tennis and all the great players who give us so much joy with their wonderful magical tennis!


jatin Says:

Wow.. Loving the match so far.
Novak saved another break point. Hope fed holds comfortably


Margot Says:

Nole winning the battle of the baseline at the mo.


FedExpress Says:

Wtf is fed doing

these missed bps will get punished


Rishi Says:

Hippy/Gypsy….nice to see you are still here along with Okie. I came back to posting here yesterday, and see some new members have joined the club.


Georgy Gal Says:

Entertaining match!


Margot Says:

Good match. Really interesting to see such contrating styles playing.


jatin Says:

Gypsy Gal
Is that you Hippy chic :)
Wow, you sure have changed your name to a new unique one. Your posts seemed like hippy’s ones to me but I never thought you are actually Hippy.
Nice to see you in this avatar though.

Yeah, enjoying the match so far with a lot of heartbeats here and there. Hope Roger somehow gets this set. He got a lot of break points chances already.


viki Says:

Again in rallies, Roger backhand is undoing him.
Stat: Djokovic put 60 percent shot to Federer backhand whereas Murray only 30 percent. May be this is the reason of Murray weak performances against Roger.


Jeez Says:

All except the 1st service game of Djokovic has gone to DEUCE,but got through..

MISSED OPPURTUNITIES !!


madmax Says:

could someone provide a running commie for me please, lost my live stream.

Thanks TX


jatin Says:

Fed is winning his service games with such ease. 4-4


jatin Says:

40-15.. Novak with a wonderful passing shot


jatin Says:

Somebody collapsed in the stands


jalep Says:

I’m a tad bit incoherent at the moment, madmax.

Was hoping for Daniel to be here but…it’s Sunday.

jane could be in hiding.


FedExpress Says:

I can see it somehow
Fed the better player overall will be broken when serves to stay in the set

have seen this script so.many times


Jock-KatH Says:

Stats so far favour Fed. If Nole can take the 1st set expect a different flavour. Come On Nole. U are No.1.


madmax Says:

All the bets are down for Novak to win,just hope that Roger can pull some magic out of the bag.

Come on Roger; thank you Jatin. Keep it coming when you can, I hope it doesn’t detract from you watching the match though.


FedExpress Says:

1st serve gone and fed getting lucky. disgusting


madmax Says:

meant Jalep. :)


Gypsy Gal Says:

Jatin lol its me one and the same poster,both monikors fit my real life persona,anyway no horse in the race,but pulling for Federer,i believe of the two men hes played the best tennis this week,thanks for the heads up on the avatar too,nice to see you here again….

Rishi nice to see you too….


jatin Says:

Fortune favors the brave
5-5


jatin Says:

Thanks Gypsy ( Have to get used to this name ;) )
Glad you are rooting for fed. Lets see how it goes.. Tense moments ahead.


FedExpress Says:

nole serving better now. hate these moments


Jeez Says:

TIEBREAK ???


jalep Says:

It’s fine madamax, thanks. just can’t do the match justice, I don’t think.

It’s tight. Probably headed for a tb if Federer can hold serve.

Nole is on high alert though. Not at all like v Dolgo, imo.


jatin Says:

fed has to hold again.. Comon


FedExpress Says:

DF 15-15


madmax Says:

I’m typing blind Jatin. Just watching the posts pop up and hoping that Fed takes the tie break. Though it feels tough.


FedExpress Says:

lottery time. tiebreak


tennisfansince76 Says:

Tiebreak need I say crucial


Jeez Says:

MINIBREAK


FedExpress Says:

mini break


FedExpress Says:

where are the 1st serves ffs


Jeez Says:

Given back

2-1


FedExpress Says:

wtf fed. short ball into the net

MB back


Jeez Says:

MINIBREAK again

3-1 Federer


FedExpress Says:

come on. mb fed

where are noles DF


FedExpress Says:

4-1 come on

habve nightmares ao match vs seppi


jatin Says:

outrageous return by fed…. His new return style


Jeez Says:

Ah !!

VOLLEY ON RETURN

4-1

ERROR

5-1


Ben Pronin Says:

Federer’s commitment to the overly aggressive game plan is why he’s winning this tiebreaker. Djokovic playing too safe and Federer’s gambles are paying off.


FedExpress Says:

5-1
solid server needed

6-1 fed u beauty


Gypsy Gal Says:

WOW What a point…


Jeez Says:

7-6(7-1)

1st SET FEDERER!!!!


jatin Says:

What a tiebreaker by roger… Stefen Edberg style… Loving it


FedExpress Says:

first set fed.better player win the set. period.


Margot Says:

First blood to Fed. I love tie breaks…as long as Andy isn’t playing them…;)


FedExpress Says:

what is nole gesturing


madmax Says:

Gypsey!

Do you have a live stream! I can’t bear this!
Fed express, Jatin, Jalep, thanks for the commentary so far, it’s intense! :)


Humble Rafa Says:

what is nole gesturing

Prepare the army (Medical trainers)


madmax Says:

Fed Express,

Thanks for commenting. It is really bringing Fed’s game alive for me, right now.


viki Says:

For Federer, It looks like only way to take set from Djokovic is to through tie breaker. This shows how it is almost impossible for Federer to beat Djokovic in five setter.


FedExpress Says:

thanks madmax. hope fed keeps this intensity


jalep Says:

You would be very proud of Federer, madmax.

He took charge in that tb.

But…that’s gotta p*** off Nole. If he’s able, expect him to start bossing it!

My poor girl Simona has to face Serena later. :/


Okiegal Says:

If the old man wins this there will be some Novak fans collapsing in front of their TV’s…….


FedExpress Says:

from 40-0 to 40-30
tense


FedExpress Says:

1-0 fed


FedExpress Says:

ahh there is the DF from nole

15-15


jatin Says:

Amazing drop shot by fed


FedExpress Says:

beauty of a rally and finished with a dropper


Jeez Says:

2 BPs for Fed


Okiegal Says:

@Margot…..I hear you…..Love TBs as long as Rafa isn’t involved…..But I’m to the point if Rafa could just be in a final a sf or a qtr final I would welcome a tiebreaker!! Lol


jatin Says:

2 break points fed


FedExpress Says:

another DF from nole

2 BPs fed. take them


Jeez Says:

3 DOUBLE FAULTS !!


jatin Says:

3 double faults by novak .. Shocking


FedExpress Says:

yes

3 DFs from nole to get broke.

2-0 fed


viki Says:

3 double faults in one game. First time in last five years seeing Djokovic to take the step off the accelerator against Roger.


Gypsy Gal Says:

Madmax im watching on Sky sports,never have done live streaming,and wouldnt know where to start to be honest sorry….


Gordon Says:

Some people can find a way to be completely negative and miserably insulting in any situation -

Example -

viki Says:
For Federer, It looks like only way to take set from Djokovic is to through tie breaker. This shows how it is almost impossible for Federer to beat Djokovic in five setter.

August 23rd, 2015 at 2:08 pm


jalep Says:

s!#$

Nole, Nole, puhleese. arrgh…

3-0 federer 2nd set


FedExpress Says:

3-0 federer

genius of a player. just simply a genius


jatin Says:

Djokovic is losing his hope it seems. Fed is attacking .. attacking and just attacking.
3-0


FedExpress Says:

dont let the foot off the gas fed

nole will let his arms loose now.


Jeez Says:

7-6,3-0

Could Djokovic make his

MIRACULOUS come back from here?? !!!


sienna Says:

viki what are you trying to say?

US open got 5thset breaker rule.
so no need to break Novak because that cant be done.
5 breakers and Roger can screw a couple of them.


FedExpress Says:

3-1 nole by serve booting


FedExpress Says:

i hate this nole mode

0-15


Gypsy Gal Says:

HA loved those fans singing Happy Birthday to that little old man,hated seeing the woman though with hat,t.shirt,earings with the RF logo on it,man talk about OTT hero worshipping gone too far….


jatin Says:

This is what I call — A 34 years old VINTAGE fed :)
4-1


FedExpress Says:

importan hold from fed

4-1

nole hitting harder and trying his luck. could be dangerous. dont fall for it fed. just 2 holds away. better break for an insurance


FedExpress Says:

74/101 points won at the net. wow


viki Says:

@ Gordon, Sorry to offend you and others.

But Djokovic great serving and base line game by putting the ball to backhand, makes it difficult for Federer to beat Djokovic by breaking his serve. So its good strategy to try to take tie breaker.

Same thing i feel when Roger plays Nadal is to somehow take the set to tie breaker and see if it can be won.


Jeez Says:

2 Points for DOUBLE BREAK!!!


FedExpress Says:

come on finish him off now

0-30


FedExpress Says:

30-30

shiitt backhand


Gypsy Gal Says:

Okie agree on the TBs,and wouldnt mind Rafa getting beaten in a final,is that at least hes put himself into contention,Les Miserables is on TV tonight here,(AHEM)just thought id get that in lol….


FedExpress Says:

fed showing some nerves now


Jeez Says:

VIRTUAL MATCH POINT!!!


FedExpress Says:

ohhh wasted


madmax Says:

viki,

It’s almost impossible for anyone to beat Novak these days. He is just too good. Having said that, Murray did it recently, as did Stan as did Federer earlier on this year, so anything is possible.

Novak though is the man to beat. He is no fool and when he is behind, that is when he works the hardest and comes back with surprises.

He will be more fired up than ever now. A dangerous man.

Yes viki, let’s thank our lucky stars that Roger doesnt have to play five sets, I mean, he really sucks at 5 setters,right?


Gypsy Gal Says:

Seriously im a Rafa fan,but when Rogers playing like this,theres nobobdy better to watch….


Jeez Says:

2nd VIRTUAL MATCH POINT!!


jalep Says:

Nole playing just horrible…


Jeez Says:

Wasted yet again!!


Okiegal Says:

#1 feeling the pressure…………


FedExpress Says:

another BP

wasted again. this game could get into feds head


Jeez Says:

Now 3rd !!!


Gypsy Gal Says:

Nole and the crowd seem a bit subdued ATM,the match has lost its spark….


FedExpress Says:

plz take this one


Jeez Says:

WASTED 3


Ben Pronin Says:

As well as Federer is playing, Djokovic’s level has dipped big time in the second set. Double faults all over the place and he’s missed at least 3 easy forehands in this game by miles.


FedExpress Says:

wtf roger.


FedExpress Says:

mental energy


madmax Says:

wtf what Fedexpress?


FedExpress Says:

massive service game coming up


Jeez Says:

Does that HOLD from Nöle be The TURNING POINT!!!


FedExpress Says:

wasterd 3 BPs for a 5-1 lead

now 4-2. still one break as a cushion

massiv moments

0-15


jalep Says:

phew. finally he held. NO1e did.

break now or it’s over


FedExpress Says:

40-30

deuce now shiit


Jeez Says:

May be not !!


Jeez Says:

5-2 ! !!


Okiegal Says:

@Gypsy Gal……Try to remain focused…….just thought I’d get that in! Lol

Did I read you right the other day….mentioning the “R” word regarding the other “R” word???


jatin Says:

What a beautiful attack that was by fed… 5-2


FedExpress Says:

ad fed

come on

5-2

pheww. fed makes it intersting wothout a reason


FedExpress Says:

what an anti climax it would be if fed gets broken by serving for the title


Gypsy Gal Says:

Okie im confused what do you mean?….


FedExpress Says:

fed serving for the title.


jalep Says:

Well…

:(

On to US Open, I guess.

Can still be happy with the year Nole’s had. But this is disappointing. I’d trade in the Wimbledon win for FO and one of his masters for Cincy.

Federer will serve for the match.


Jeez Says:

Federer to SERVE for 7th Title!!


FedExpress Says:

15-0
come on


Jeez Says:

3 MATCH POINTS!!!


FedExpress Says:

3 mps


Jeez Says:

7-6,6-3


FedExpress Says:

take that. congratz fed

deserved. fully deserved. hope retirement talk will be stopped for some time


Margot Says:

Ferocious, attacking tennis from Fed pays off. Well done.
Huge hugs to Nole fans. We know how you feel. We really do!


FedExpress Says:

what scenes with his family.


Okiegal Says:

Did I call this one right or what?? OKIE knows a little about tennis after all. The only thing I missed was I was off one tiebreaker!!

The little girls are calling him Papa…how sweet!

Cincy Wincy belongs to Fedzy Wedzy! Way to go old boy……I am now a BELIEVER!!


Ben Pronin Says:

An improvement over last year’s results but it’s gotta be somewhat worrying for Djokovic to lose back to back finals to his 2 biggest rivals heading into the final slam of the season. Hopefully he gets over whatever’s been ailing him the past few weeks.

Federer’s gotta like his chances heading into the US Open. Doesn’t get broken in winning the title even after facing the best 2 returners in the game. First time beating 2/4 back to back since 2012 Wimbledon and he’s doing it almost routinely. His more aggressive approach can help him keep matches even shorter than they already tend to be for him. As long as he doesn’t fall into a passive lull he can definitely win the title. It’s all about maintaining that level, though.

Should be an exciting US Open!


Gypsy Gal Says:

Aww so sweet Roger going to see the family getting hugs and kisses from Mirka and the twins,i dont recall seeing him ever do that,although people can correct me if im wrong….


madmax Says:

Fed Ex, Jalep and Jatin, thanks for the commentary. I was sitting here, nerves wretched at moments, but now, can breath a little.

Thank you!


jatin Says:

Wow.
Fed wins the tournament without even dropping a single serve.
Beating andy and novak in a row and that too in straights is incredible.
Congratulations champion.

Loved the way roger went to see his family and his twins saying “Papa”…… Such a wonderful human being and champion.
Bad day for Novak and his fans though. He played a good 1st set. But couldn’t sustain roger’s brilliance in the second. But he will be there as a favorite at the US open.

Meanwhile, its time for Roger and his fans to celebrate :)


tennisfansince76 Says:

@jalep are you kidding? I’d trade Wimbledon for nothing. Winning Wimbledon comes before everything else in tennis. Also hang tight Nole fans. He still has won the ao, win by plus 4 masters titles, runner up at the FO. Runner up in Canada and cincy is nothing to sneeze. He is still no. 1 for the year by a country mile and he is without a doubt the favorite for the upcoming USO.


courbon Says:

Congratulations to all Fed fans…


Giles Says:

Well done fed beating the faker and depriving him of the Golden Masters? Lol Lol. 😜


viki Says:

Congrats to Federer and his fans and better luck to Djoko and his fans.

Otherwise i think Djokovic will definately win cincy in future.

But now the million dollar question who are the favourites for US open?

Who will get the andy in semis?


greem900 Says:

@gypsy gal

I don’t recall him ever doing that either


FedExpress Says:

love the sky talk. wants to get into the us open final. delusional or not, he delievers everytime


sienna Says:

So Roger won the biggest tournee of the year. this would have given Djoker the GOAT status his fans want for 1 digid slamwinner.

well in fact he couldnot make a single BP.
as a matter of fact Murph couldnot either.
So he played #1 and #2 back to back for four sets for 3 hours and they couldnot get 1 breakpoint.

What!!!! a superman performance.


Gypsy Gal Says:

Congrats to all Fed fans especially Jatin,Rishi,and Squirrel,that was quite a week and quite the performance beating Andy and Novak B2B,maybe a USO contender,i still believe theres another GS in him….


FedExpress Says:

nole is the fav for us open no doubt. but it doesnt mean he will win it.

followed by andy and fed


Okiegal Says:

Commies to Novak fans and congrats to Fed fans! I thought the 2nd set would be much closer. Novak showed his human side today, felt the pressure. Not to worry, Novak’s ranking points tell the tale, way ahead and he’s still the #1 in the world!!


dapris Says:

Congrats federer and fans.deserved win.I hope my nole will look at what went wrong in these last two finals.don’t worry too many cincy in the future


FedExpress Says:

hhahaahahahah. fed is a gent


andrea Says:

woot woot! congrats roger on yet another milestone. unbelievable that you’re still cranking it out at this level. sorry for novak fans. maybe your man will win cincy another year.


Thangs Says:

Good Job Federer .


Gypsy Gal Says:

Sorry to Novak fans Courbon,WB,Mat4,Jalep,Jane,hes having an amazing year,and still the USO favorite,so no disgrace,he just ran out of steam,he played some amazing tennis this week….


jatin Says:

Its ok madmax. You can chill out now. :)
Thanks hippy (oops gypsy) :)


jane Says:

congrats to fed and fans for his 7th (!) cincy…


viki Says:

Hope organizer of US open will give a fair chance to 34 old man to win grand slam.

Put the Djoko, wawa and Murray in one half. Give Nadal and Nishikori, Federer and Berdych quater finals.


Gypsy Gal Says:

Viki it doesnt work like that im afraid….


elina Says:

As I said never in doubt.

With a cooperating draw and preferred evening prime time scheduling, you pretty much have to peg Roger as the favorite for the US open after this week’s form and not losing serve all week.

If he does, he’d have to be considered the undisputed GOAT.

Best form of his career?

You betcha.

Just like he said. And backed by match stats to boot!


Flyer Says:

Very nicely played match – some entertaining points and tense moments.

Federer played focused sharp tennis all week.

Djokovic still favorite for USO – but all that speculation should be shelved for next week.

This week Nole should enjoy his making the final – a difficult proposition after Canada.

And Roger – enjoy the win, his great play, family and friends – wonderful tournament and result.


Humble Rafa Says:

If he does, he’d have to be considered the undisputed GOAT.


Currently, there is no dispute that I am the goat owner and a goat as well. Don’t create unnecessary disputes where there is none in the first place.


viki Says:

Gypsy that’s why only hoping but it may work like this who knows.


Gordon Says:

You all do realize that Fed does not move into second place because he was defending the 1000 points he won last year? In fact, because both Murray and Djokovic did better this year than last at Cincy they actually move further ahead of him.

So the real question is – whose half of the draw will Roger wind up in, with the possibility of having to go through both Muzza and Nole if he wants to win another US Open?


Ben Pronin Says:

The points from Cincy were already dropped off. He wasn’t defending anything.


FedExpress Says:

Taka a look at mardy fishs last tweet my friends. Luv it


madmax Says:

Gordon,

We have been through this with Adam and I think Mat4? Earlier, so we are all pretty certain that Fed is back at No. 2.

But it would not have mattered if he remained at No. 3.

Look at this comment from Mardy on twitter!

Mardy Fish (@MardyFish)
7 mins ago
Whoever says @rogerfederer can’t win another slam doesn’t know Bleep about tennis.


Travis Bickle Says:

Most sincere congrats to Roger! Congrats to Novak too for fighting hard these past two weeks and getting to finals despite his sub-par form (as a consequence, he increased his lead as #1 to the ridiculous margin)

That was an amazing display of attacking tennis, bordering with gambling – and everything paid off for him today – even he was lucky with net cords and lines (and line judge calls, that break in the second set that wasn’t Novak’s DF).

If he could repeat this level at USO, he may win. Somehow, I doubt it, since all these gambles that paid off today likely won’t pay off at USO, also he is unlikely to sustain this crazy level over three sets and Novak’s (or Murray or Kei) game will be a bit better – today Novak was a bit off, especially on serving and general self-belief; those will get ramped up at USO for sure since Novak wants it more than Cincy.

That said, nothing taken away from Fed today – crystal clear and totally deserved victory!


madmax Says:

AT 34 THE FEDERER just beat the 2 best returners Murray and Djokovic without losing serve or even facing a single break point #ridiculous


madmax Says:

I think also it’s the first time that Roger has beaten Novak and Andy back to back in the same tournament.

Awesome.


sienna Says:

madmax are you somekind of Texasranger?
You wouldnt be able to call me out if I was right in front of you. Mind your own buss….


viki Says:

@ Madmax
he already beaten them at wimbledon 2012.
50 percent Reason of his winning in this style is surface.


tennisfansince76 Says:

@madmax actually I can think of two times where he beat Nole and Andy consecutively, 2008 USO and 2012 Wimbledon.


Jock-KatH Says:

Usually No. 3 is with No. 1 and No. 4 with No. 2.
Commiserations to Nole fans and many congrats to Fed’s.

Next contest – an even bigger one – looking forward to seeing who can do what to whom – I guess we all are.

Have a peaceful week all and especially to those reasonable folks on TX (esp. Margot).


jatin Says:

Hope fed will get a decent draw this time. If he plays like this then he has a real shot at the open.
See you guys during the US open.
Fed fans… Enjoy ;)


Humble Rafa Says:

When I am 34….


madmax Says:

Thanks for the correction guys. :)

Novak is still the favourite for the USOpen.

That does not change.


Flyer Says:

Certainly type of surface can impact player’s game.

That is why there should be variety in court speed – and it is a shame fast courts are few and far between – even many of the indoor courts play medium speed.

Variety and the subsequent variety of game and tactics are what makes tennis such an unusual and interesting sport.

Tournaments should take notice – it would improve the game to have true variety of surface and speed.


Margot Says:

And to you Kat. Us Andy fans are kind of special, like Andy.


Skeezer Says:

A big thanks to all the Nole fan base. Class acts most of you and all the best at USO.
These two produce really good stuff on the Tennis court.
And yes Fed’s return game has improved, will see if he can carry that on to USO. Regardless a great tourney and had to go through Andy and Nole to hold the trophy!!


courbon Says:

I think Fed, Murray and Novak are joint favorites for US Open.


Jock-KatH Says:

Mardy Fish? Ahem?


Gypsy Gal Says:

Courbon i agree unfortunatly,i know it sounds negative,but my only hope would be Rafa not flaming out round one,the semis would be an amazing achievement ATM….


courbon Says:

Gypsy, thanx.

Skeezer, his return game improved but also his mental aspect-he keep cool to the end.And off course, his anticipation of opponents shots is best ever ( and probably at this age, of 34 and all experience, better then before ).Also, very nice words between them at trophy ceremony
( Novak; ”The fifth time I’ve been in the title (match) and never won this title, so I guess I have to wait for Roger to retire,”
Roger: ‘I really hope you can win here someday,’
”He deserves it. C’mon, so close.”
Highest respect between them


courbon Says:

Gypsy, I’m afraid after those three, next favorites would be Stan and maybe Nikishori.Nadal probably after those five ( not on the current form but with all amazing achivments he done in the past and his comeback that he mounted lots of times-I wish all the best to your man )


sienna Says:

Hold the phone.
Gordon claims that Federer will not be #2 come monday.

Wow brilliant what an insight. He has done the math or mad in his case.

every tennis site / news paper / tv is claiming whole week in order for fed to take back #2 he needs to beat andy and win tournee.
No freaking says Gordon.
Sleep tight Gordy.


Wog Boy Says:

Congrats to Roger and his fans,, haven’t seen the match but the result is I expected. He was playing superb tennis from what I have seen against Andy and that’s about it.
Nole did better than last year and improved points difference between him and the rest. It is true that he lost two finals but he also made two finals, he could have missed them, no?


squirrel_0209 Says:

Thanks so much Gypsy Gal/Hippy Chick!

So sweet that you’re still thinking of me :)

How you’ve been??


squirrel_0209 Says:

I meant so sweet that you thought of me! 😜


Gypsy Gal Says:

Courbon thanks,i just dread posting on this forum these days after a Rafa loss,im not one for baling,but i think ill stick with the bracket challenge only and blog there while the USO is on….


Goose Egg Says:

How many break points did Federer face the entire tournament? Did he face a single one?

Sad I didn’t see the match… Thanks to all you active posters for all your insights and commentary!


courbon Says:

It is funny how in 2014 it was all talk about BIG 4 cracked and new guns are coming…( sure , nadal has been at the moment replaced by Stan but he ain’t spring chicken either ).At Single race for London, there is 4 guys above 30, 5 guys at 28,29 and one single 25 year old ( Nishikori ).Truly impressive generation of Big 4 ( or truly bad generations of youth, depending how you look )


courbon Says:

Wog Boy-Roger was brilliant but Noval also forgot how to serve today.He was OK in rallys but servibg was crap..cest’la vie.Have some Rubin for me!


Gypsy Gal Says:

Sqirrel-0209 yeah i do tend to remember the posters i get on well with,and miss them when they are not here,ive had flu and not had much energy,but im over the worst now,looking forward to the open,although im not holding out much hope for my favorite though,BTW lights out performance from Roger,he will be one of the favorites now….


Wog Boy Says:

@Courbon,

I can’t have Rubin but I’ll have some Bulgarian “Grozdova rakija” instead. I am in Sofia, Dimitrov’s territory, I was driving from Belgrade, just arrived two hours ago, that is why I missed the match.
BTW, thanks for update.


Jock-KatH Says:

Madmax @ 1.26pm.

If you don’t agree with Margo’s comments, fine – Say So – and if you don’t wish to read the articles she suggests, also fine- but to compare her in any way with the gross, deliberately challenging comments from someone who is known to be deliberately provocative is totally unacceptable.

This has bothered me all day – and my protest is not because we support the same player – but quite simply you don’t have the right to accuse anyone of acting in a way that simply does not meet with your approval.

On my part, I apologise if I’m over-the-top – but I hate injustices with a passion.


courbon Says:

Bratko is having rakija? Have a good time…


Wog Boy Says:

Thanks, I’ll do my best..


chris ford1 Says:

While it is a shame Novak battles to Finals and then decides to be conservative, not courageous, play the percents in Finals and maybe lose more of them than he should…
He has 4 Masters, 2 Slams. Has made the final in the last 12 straight ATP 500 and above events. Pretty well locked away #1 Ranking into 2016, barring some miracle. Djokovic has already had a spectacular year.
Still, the times he will again have the opportunity to win the French Open and Cincinnati are finite in number, and dwindling as the years slip by.


Wog Boy Says:

“While it is a shame Novak battles to Finals and then decides to be conservative, not courageous, play the percents in Finals and maybe lose more of them than he should…”
That is exactly how he lost FO too, and that kind of loses are pissing me off.


Goose Egg Says:

Feliciano Lopez posted on Twitter: “Congrats Sr @rogerfederer on winning 7th @CincyTennis 🎾Very proud i have been the closest to break your serve😂😂😂#Legend”


FedExpress Says:

Halep to serena:

“I know that you can do all four, so do the best, and be strong.”

Wtf, will u lose on purpose to give her the calender slam

so many wta players saying that they want to see serena holding all 4 slams. Hello, ur part is to stop her. Not tl give a nice gift. No wonder that there are many mentally weak players on the wta tour


Okiegal Says:

,@Gypsy Gal……The R word is retirement for the other R word which is Rafa! I always hate to make mention of him when it isn’t his thread. I thought I read a comment the other day that you suggested retirement for him. Maybe I’m wrong??? If so, sorry!!


mat4 Says:

Congrats to Fed, and fedfans. Good match by Fed.

@skeez:

I had to ask, because he had Jane and jane, and they were different posters.

About conditions: yes, in fact I checked here

https://weatherspark.com/averages/30785/Cincinnati-Ohio-United-States

and here

https://weatherspark.com/averages/32458/Belgrade-Central-Serbia

Just look at the dew point: in August, it’s “muggy” for Cinci, and “comfortable” for Belgrade.

It’s not about Fed, skeez, here. You are fully aware about the little games played for years when Rafa was the golden boy and future of tennis — Novak and Fed were in the same half everywhere in slams, but in Paris, on clay.

Now we have Novak playing for 5 days in the heat, even his match against Stan that normally should have been scheduled in the evening. And don’t tell me it’s because of the TV rights — Fed also would have been playing in the morning, then. It would have been normal to let him play one evening to recover a bit.


jalep Says:

@ TF76
2:46 pm

Not that I’m unhappy that Nole has won 2 Wimbledons!

This year however, would trade Wimbles for that FO.

It’s having all 4 GS.

And the Cincy tile? It’s the ONLY one missing from his collection. Incredible achievement even without Cincy. Just saying.

Thanks to all well wishers. It’s only tennis.
Congrats to Federer! and those cheering for a 7th Cincy title. Cincy is his another year.

Hi back to you mat4


elina Says:

Federer playing at night has everything to do with prime time ratings. That is obvious.


jane Says:

okie, i seem to remember that too.

jalep, speaking of switches, novak could have given fed roma, and fed could’ve given novak cincy ;) they stopped each other from filling in some gaps.


skeezer Says:

“Federer playing at night has everything to do with prime time ratings. That is obvious.”
So? Isn’t this what it is all about for Tennis? More fans watching. Promote the game. Nobody can do it better than the Maestro.


skeezer Says:

mat4,
Maybe a sincere misunderstanding here. Nole, earlier in his career, did not do well in heat. So the question was regarding his environment growing up. Just a question associated with nothing else other than himself. I realize he has played alot lately in the heat…but sorry though…part of the game.
Btw saw Feds post interview and for the first time I saw him own up to being tired last year after too much tennis played. WTF…. Fed tired? Lol.


elina Says:

So?

So you agreed with me then.

About time.


elina Says:

“Novak and Fed were in the same half everywhere in slams, but in Paris, on clay.”

You mean before Novak completed the best year on tour ever and everyone finally realized that Novaks was for reals.

Little games you say???

And here all this time I thought the draw was random and WWE was for reals.

Oh tennis experts puh-leeze explain to lil’ ole me how can this be?


jalep Says:

skeezer and elina,

Get a room! :D

can’t stop laughing…


skeezer Says:

elina,
Its an obvious known. A non story. You tryin to make it one? If so why?
I find your obsessive interest in all things Fed, interesting, considering you are a Rafa fan, no?
Thought you’d be more interested in this type of discussion;
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/08/rafael-nadal-cincinnati-loss-us-open-feliciano-lopez-seed-can-he-win-another-grand-slam-record-2015


skeezer Says:

@wog boy,
You’re a quasi-aussie right? You must know Jarryd Hayne right? What is your take he is doing surprisingly well so far in American Football.


Daniel Says:

Watched highlights and Fed was getting break chances in a lot of Djoko’s games, which he held showing that his mental resolve is still there. Fed was just too good and this court is perfect for him, low bouncing fast court. He was on top baseline or inside the court most f the time.

Now getting back to #2. If Murray lands in Djoko’s half and he only have to beat one of them his chances at US Open increase a lot.

He has a mental edge on Murray now and Djoko lost last two finals so his confidence is a bit shaken.

He still is the man to beat, maybe not winning a Masters pre US Open will do him good. On clay he won both MC and Rome but lost MC, now host both Montreal and Cincy but can win USO, which matters most. That would be ironic:-)

Still consider Djoko the favorite for USO and now with this level Fed above Murray. Draw will be major next Friday.One thing is Fed beating Murray and Djoko back to back in best of three, another is in best of five.

Can’t see anybody other than this 3 winning US Open now.


Thangs Says:

I am happy today for 2 things

1. No nonsense of reading golden masters article and how great he is..atleast for an year

2. Rafa’s loss to Feli. Had he won and lost againt fed, Fed would have beaten all big 3 in same tournament


Giles Says:

Thangs. Totally agree. Thank goodness for small mercies, no? Lol


danica Says:

Sorry for catching up with you guys now, but was unable to post earlier.

Big congrats to all Roger fans and Roger himself. That was a beautiful show of tennis. As far as I am concerned, there is no doubt who the GOAT is, no matter his H2H with Rafa. Number of slams and specially number of weeks at No.1 speak for themselves.

As for Nole, I am not gutted at all. He has an amazing season where he reached finals in all tournaments he played except Doha where he came already suffering from flu (didn’t even play the finals of Mubadala for the same reason). So, out of 3 GS he played, he won 2. Out of 6 masters tournaments, he won 4. He is the only constant in the finals while the opponents change. He played more tennis in these last two weeks than anyone and in midday at that so no wonder he was fatigued. Good luck at the USO champ!!


danica Says:

Viki,
you are mistaken, Nole has a few “firsts” ;).

Skeezer,
regarding temperatures: I often hear how Novak, coming from Serbia, cannot adapt to heat and humidity. Somehow, Serbia is often mixed up with Siberia :). Fact is, Serbia has continental climate which means pretty cold winters and pretty hot summers. Summers can be humid but sometimes are dry and scorching hot. This year the temperatures were above 40 something C. Although never in Cincy, I used to live in Columbus, OH. The weather is similar to that of Belgrade, although maybe a bit more drastic in Serbia.

Novak had problems with his stamina, that was the biggest problem. He also had that famous gluten allergy. Both of those things contributed to his breathing problems. When speaking of Novak’s rise post 2010, most people forget one important thing: Novak brought Gebhard Phil-Gritsch to his team, the same man who made Thomas Muster into a tennis machine and unbeatable force on clay.


calmdownplease Says:

`and Novak’s (or Murray or Kei) game will be a bit better…`

A bit better?
rofl Muzz and Novak will be FAR better in NY….


elina Says:

skeezer, mat4 brought it up.

Direct your inquisition to him.

Speaking of, ask mat4 how 34 year old Roger is playing the best tennis of his career. I know he has some expert theories on this (unless he doesn’t play tennis in which case please disregard).


Georgy Gal Says:

Let us see how many grand slams Fed missed meeting Rafa at some stage because one or the other wasn’t good enough after both reached their primes which would be 2008.
Since 2008, Rafa reached 15 grand slams finals and met Fed in 5 of these grand slams at some stage ( 4 finals and one semi). Fed reached 12 GS finals and met Rafa in 5. So Rafa lost 10 opportunities because Fed was not good enough and Fed lost 7 because Rafa was not good enough! So the h2h would probably have been worse.
The fact is, Rafa in his prime could be counted on to beat Fed on any grand slam surface if they had met. So Fed fans can count themselves lucky that due to injuries or whatever Rafa missed several such opportunities. Otherwise it might have been at least an embarrassing 40-10 in Rafa’s favor!


Georgy Gal Says:

Fed’s strategy of charging forward at Cincy worked very well and made the matches more fun for him as well as for spectators.
I am really absolutely thrilled with Fed trying something different since last year and succeeding so well!
Rafa can learn from him. Rafa is not at championship level this year because he is still trying to get back his lethal forehand and due to injuries, scarring tissue or slowing down of movement or reflexes or whatever, it is not working. Like Grigor as an imitation of Fed is not championship material, the coming back from injury Rafa trying to get his old forehand back i.e. trying to imitate the old Rafa is not championship material. So Rafa should instead try to develop a new serve or new forehand or some new stroke or some new strategy like charging forward instead of trying to recapture his old forehand. Take more risks, Rafa. You can’t do worse than you are doing now!


madmax Says:

Jock,

YOU get off YOUR high horse. I can disagree with Margot all I like. In fact, I AGREED with her, regarding S’s comments – so get your facts right. I am not into this “let’s get into a clique” on this forum. You are. Good for you. I do not agree with Sienna’s comments about Novak either, and I have told her so.

If you want to take up the gauntlet, then do so, but do it directly towards her, eh?

sienna Says:
madmax are you somekind of Texasranger?
You wouldnt be able to call me out if I was right in front of you. Mind your own buss….

August 23rd, 2015 at 3:30 pm

Sienna!

You mind your own business. Why you want to keep calling Novak a faker? Why? If you were right in front of me?

Go for it girl! But try to come up with a better argument than accusing Novak of taking drugs, faking injury and whatever other crap you come up with.

Try to see the beauty in his game too. The athletism, the graciousness when he loses AND when he wins. I, for one, don’t mind the chest beating (though he doesn’t seem to do that anymore). To me, it shows passion. Novak is elastic gymnastic, and a deserved No. 1. If there was anyone out there who has earned his place in being in the GOAT debate, it’s Novak, but for other reasons, (not the 17 slam debate). In fact now, Novak is Roger’s most fierce rival – is it 20/21 now? They have played each other more times on tour than any other player. That’s not to say their rivalry is more enjoyable than the Roger/Rafa rivalry (miss those days :( ).

No need to knock him Sienna. Really. But like you say, you are entitled to your opinion.


sienna Says:

Novak is a poser. Always praising a hotshot when he is winning or has momentum.

also i dont give a crap for his hardship speech a few years ago. #1 should be building bridges not deviding whole nations in hardship speeches.


jalep Says:

Nole was very gracious after that loss. And he is a stunningly remarkable athlete – What a body!

Thanks for your support. madmax.

Texasranger was kinda cute, I thought. That might be a new moniker of mine in the future. I know how he meant it wasn’t. Gotta be a guy, this sienna.

You never know.


jalep Says:

sienna, what hardship speech? You have a link?

Is that why you hate Novak?


danica Says:

I would also like to hear about that speech Sienna. But whatever, hardship was part of his life, it was a fact and if you think he is dividing the nations you know nothing. He is doing exactly the opposite.


Wog Boy Says:

@jalep,
Don’t pay attention, if there is anyone building the bridges in a hostile Balkans it is Nole, universally respected ad loved by all nations in the Balkans. We we had those tragic floods last year and world kept quiet without noticing dying and suffering of the people from the region, Nole was the one who asked the world to help all nations equally and gave entire prize money from Rome masters to flood relief found that has been distributed to Bosnia, Croatia and Serbia. He screamed for the help for all those nations, he was highly commended by governments and people of all three countries. If there is more people like Nole in the Balkans (and world) it would be less trouble and more love. I am now in Bulgaria, he is loved here too, very much so though Grigor is their son.


RZ Says:

@Wog Boy – Do you think Nole would take a role in politics in Serbia after he is done playing tennis? He really seems to care about his country.


sienna Says:

of course I dont hate him. whatever gave you that idea? I never met the boy so what is there to hate him for.
His antics and ways are not scincere (my oppinion).


madmax Says:

Jalep,

No support is needed. I have always liked and enjoyed watching Novak play. He has been my Number 2 for some time

Two dear tennis friends, who no longer post here, and I, shared many, many exchanges about Novak – Duro and Sar –

Sienna (I don’t think she means half of what she says; some of the things she does say are funny – whether she intends it or not – ), but yeah.

I like texasranger. I have to thank her for that :)

Occasionally, she will post something about Federer which is quite thoughtful and dare I say, interesting?!

Thanks sienna!


Wog Boy Says:

@RZ,
I would hate to see him in politics, he can help, he is already helping, his country much more through his foundation. I have a feeling he already knows what is he goig to do after tennis and will have nothing to with tennis and hopefully politics. He is too good and too human to be used by those rotten politicians for ther self serving corrupted purposes. He is blessed that he has very independent, self made wife who is already in charge of few things that matters.
To make it short, no Nole in polirics, under no circumstances.


Wog Boy Says:

^^ just to add, he is so popular that he would win presidental elections in the first go, trust me:)


Okiegal Says:

I’ve said a lot of nice things about Roger and Novak too! Do I get a big thanks?? No way. Is it because I’m a Rafa fan?? Prolly (teenage cell phone talk for probably)…….Lol. :)


Okiegal Says:

I won an election too! I guess that makes me a popular person…… :)


RZ Says:

@Wog Boy – yes there are lots of ways to help outside of “the system.” He is certainly doing a lot through his foundation.

@Okiegal – of course you are!


jane Says:

“When speaking of Novak’s rise post 2010, most people forget one important thing: Novak brought Gebhard Phil-Gritsch to his team, the same man who made Thomas Muster into a tennis machine and unbeatable force on clay.”

yes he hired him in mid-2009. but that’s not the only thing people forget when talking about novak and pre-2011. they also forget how close he was in 2009 throughout the clay season; they forget how through late 2009-early 2010 after todd martin scrwed up his serve, novak STILL managed to stay in the top 3 in the world even without a serve. i contend that he had to overcompensate with his return which is why it became such a honed weapon. novak hired the doctor who helped him with his allergies in 2010 around wimbledon time, and there he reached the semis, and then the finals of the us open. his rise was actually incremental not overnight. vajda has spoken specifically about the strategies they worked on in 2010 off season to deal with rafa’s game. they started the year with that plan. and it’s not like novak won everything in 2011 with ease; there were so many close matches and struggles. like the miami final versus rafa, or the rome semi versus andy. or the us open semi versus fed, which was epic. so that’s also forgotten when speaking about novak.


jane Says:

tennisfansince76, thanks for the nice words. hope you enjoyed fed’s win yesterday.


Okiegal Says:

@RZ……Thanks for being in my corner…..Lol

@Madmax…..This forum is clique-ish….it’s very obvious……

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