Novak Djokovic v Rafael Nadal In Beijing, Who’s The Pick? Wawrinka Battles Paire For Tokyo Title
by Sean Randall | October 10th, 2015, 7:34 pm
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There’s no mystery, tomorrow in the Beijing final Novak Djokovic is the easy pick over Rafael Nadal. There’s really not much to discuss.

Sure, Nadal could win – and he has a chance, afterall he leads 23-21! – but there’s little indication to believe that will happen. Not with the way Djokovic has been dominating the Beijing event, winning all 28 matches there and this week no one has even gotten four games in a set or six total games in a match.

Nadal, though, has to be pleased with his week. We know hardcourts are not his best surface and this time of year he’s often running low of gas, but he got a confidence-building win over Fabio Fognini today, so even if he does lose tomorrow it’s been a positive week and if he can continue to go deep in events it looks better for next year.

“Playing matches is the best practice possible, trying to do things in the matches, to have better feelings, practice the things that I need to do next year,” said Nadal. “I think today was an important victory. I really played the way that I wanted to play.”

Meanwhile, Djokovic continues to impress. Remember, he’s already wrapped up No. 1. He’s won Beijing five times already. He’s got a wife, a baby about to celebrate his first birthday and yet here he is, giving it his all. So give him credit for competing when really – see Serena – he doesn’t have to.

“When my boy arrived in this life, on this planet, it was completely a new dimension of experience for me and my wife. I’m still riding on the wave of that experience,” Djokovic said. “It has been the best thing that has ever happened in my life.”

And I think tomorrow he’ll be extra motivated against Rafa in this rivalry that once was the best in the sport – that baton has been passed to Djokovic-Federer.

So what can Nadal do? Assuming Djokovic plays his game and plays it well, Rafa will have to serve extremely well (first and especially second serves) and get some pop and length off that forehand. But we haven’t really seen Rafa do either of those things this year, and I’m not sure he even can anymore. Therefore, I expect this to be an uneventful and routine for Novak.
The Pick: Djokovic in two

While favorites Djokovic and Nadal both won their semifinals, over in Tokyo defending champion Kei Nishikori was stunned yet again by mister Benoit Paire 1-6, 6-4, 6-2.

Paire is quite a talent, but his head hasn’t always been screwed on right. Apparently, though, it has been this week and he seem to find his game against Nishikori who he has beaten at the US Open and now in Kei’s backyard, both decided in final sets, a strength of Nishikori’s.

“Kei was playing unbelievably well in the first set,” said Paire who has won titles at all three pro levels this year. “I couldn’t do anything, he made no mistakes. He wasn’t missing and hitting every ball on the line. The only thing I could do was stay focused and try to hold my serve. That’s what I did and I began to build my confidence. But then I think he began to feel to the pressure. In the third set, it was different. I was playing very well, aggressively and serving well. I think I was better in the third set.”

But Paire will have his hands more than full tomorrow with the Swiss Bull, Stan Wawrinka. They’re friends, but Wawrinka’s the better player.

The Beijing women’s final pits Singapore hopeful Timea Bacsinszky against Garbine Muguruza. The Spaniard Muguruza, who has already qualified, beat Agnieszka Radwanska in three. The Swiss defeated Ana Ivanovic also in three sets. The loss eliminated Ivanovic from the year-end event.

We hadn’t heard from Muguruza since her Wimbledon final, but under the watchful eye of new coach Sam Sumyk (used to coach Azarenka), the 22-year-old has won eight of her last nine matches and has reached two straight years after losing last week to Venus. And she’ll be ranked No. 4 come Monday. Good to have her getting results again.

For you night owls and early risers, she’ll battle Timea at 4am ET. Djokovic and Nadal will square off at 7:30am ET. Wawrinka and Paire will got at it at midnight ET from Tokyo.

BEIJING SUNDAY SCHEDULE
NATIONAL TENNIS STADIUM start 1:00 pm
ATP – V. Pospisil (CAN) / J. Sock (USA) vs [4] D. Nestor (CAN) / E. Roger-Vasselin (FRA)

Not Before 4:00 pm
WTA – [5] G. Muguruza (ESP) vs [12] T. Bacsinszky (SUI)

Not Before 7:30 pm
ATP – [1] N. Djokovic (SRB) vs [3] R. Nadal (ESP)


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122 Comments for Novak Djokovic v Rafael Nadal In Beijing, Who’s The Pick? Wawrinka Battles Paire For Tokyo Title

RZ Says:

The pick in Beijing is clearly Djokovic, but I expect Nadal to put up a strong challenge.


jalep Says:

Go PospiSock!

Not happy about Muguruza beating my girl. Garbine had already qualified. Not celebrating Bacsinzky over Ana either. My enthusiasm has a wet blanket thrown on it. We’ll see.


jane Says:

what times is rafole #45!? i hope i don’t have to stay up until the middle of the night to catch it…


jane Says:

^ oh forget it. i just saw above. i think that means 4:30 am in the west. booooo!


Pauly Says:

Djokovic 6-2 6-3


Pauly Says:

Only Federer at his best can beat Djokovic on fast hardcourts
Nadal beating his nemesis fognini was very welcome considering he has lost 3 times this year but Djokovic is the best player in world !
No way can Nadal beat him in China … I predict big thrashing in the final .
Even Nadal playing like 2013 isn’t enough
Good luck Rafa but luck won’t save him from Djokovic thrashing !


jalep Says:

jane, tennis channel is covering Tokyo. Paire v Wawrinka was going to start but there’s a rain delay. Luckily there’s a roof to close.

Meanwhile, got to watch Stan and Benoit interacting — talking, laughing, very casual, and clearly best buddies. Wondering how competitive this Final will be.

Not sure I can be awake for the 4 am Rafole though.


Michael Says:

From the views of Sean, this match appears to be a mere formality and the motions to be passed before the Cup distribution ceremony.

For sure, considering the way Novak has been dominating this year, it will be pretty tough for Rafa to keep pace with him, more so on hard courts which is the former’s best surface and where he has got a better H2H against Rafa even when the later was in his peak. Hence, there is every chance that Novak will clinch this one with consummate ease.

What will be going in favour of Rafa is that the pressure will be on Novak since he is highly favoured to win this one and so he can play in a pretty care free manner taking heightened risks and strategise an aggressive game if his fore hand starts firing. It is a very significant match from Rafa’s point of view, as even taking a set off Novak will do his confidence a great deal of good and can be a launching pad for his way up to the top three where he rightfully belong. But, on the negative side, a thrashing by Novak in straight sets will be morale shattering for Rafa from which it will be difficult to recover.

All said and done, strange things have happened in Tennis in the past where certainty has been felled by the most unexpected result and that is where the Sport elicits interest and enthusiasm. Let us brace ourselves for another entertaining match which has always been the case when these two Gladiators are out there on Court.


Emily Says:

Stan won in one of the most friendly finals I’ve ever seen. The trophy ceremony was very cute as he sat on the bench with Benoit and Stan talked about how they had dreamed of playing a final against each other.

He definitely seems more relaxed after qualifying for London already, and is playing much better in Asia this year.


J-Kath Says:

Have been surprised by Benoit’s level of play in this tournament – didn’t realise he was so good – so double congrats to Stan.


Gypsy Gal Says:

Michael were you not saying only yesterday that Rafa would get a confidence boost if he beat Fognini?now your saying it will be moral sapping if he loses to Novak?well it must be moral sapping for any player on tour then,as they are all losing to Novak this year?in 2011 as we keep getting reminded about he lost to Novak 7 times in the same year,yet came back to beat him 3 times the next year once in a GS too,in 2013 he beat him 3 times,twice in GS including shock horror the USO,and also Tokoyo another HC tourney no less,seems some people are so eager and cant wait to bury Rafa these days….


Gypsy Gal Says:

Michael also the writers on tennis-x have never given Rafa much credit for his achievements,whenever hes done well its all meh so what hes overated,i think its the old addage that we like to build them up only to knock them down,no wonder theres so few Rafa fans left….


Michael Says:

Alison,

Yeah, beating Fognini was indeed a good moral booster for Rafa. As regards my moral sapping statement if Rafa loses to Novak, I also positioned a caveat and clearly stated that it depends on the kind of score line. If Novak thrases Rafa like he did against Isner and Ferrer, that will be morale shattering in my opinion.

Well, Rafa is not just any other ordinary player. He is a living legend.

As you said, it is ofcourse possible that Rafa will come back even after such a conclusive rout as each match is different so one should not take one’s statement literally to blow it out of proportion.

Finally, only a nincompoop can claim that Rafa is overrated. He has already excelled much and has achieved so much that he does not have to prove anything to the Tennis World.


Gypsy Gal Says:

Michael you have to excuse my irritation,as i just get sick and tired of posters making bold statements and actually stating them out as bona fide facts,like they think they are some bloody messiah or something….


Michael Says:

What will be frightening for the rest of the tour is that Novak is able to extract easy wins against the best of players even while playing mediocre Tennis. Yesterday, Ferrer, it was just the case where he got mercilessly whacked despite playing some of his best tennis !!


Michael Says:

Alison,

If you only understand human psychology a little bit, you will not get irritated. Humans always have this intrinsic tendency to consider all of their statements as bonafide truth, when all that it means is just individual perception which is subject to their known biases and prejudices.


Gypsy Gal Says:

Just to say i know Kie whos one of my favorite players lost to Beniot ,i was absolutely thrilled that he beat Cilic earlier this week….


Gypsy Gal Says:

Michael well some of us like to have a little self belief in our favorites,even if most others do think its misplaced,and we might actually think our favorites have a chance,if only ever so slighty,after all thats why we tune in to watch,silly isnt it?….


Daniel Says:

Djoko already breaks Nadal first game but 0-30 on his serve


Gypsy Gal Says:

Rafa had his chances in that game,but Novak looks very good very solid,Rafa doesnt have anything in his arsenal to hurt Novak….


Daniel Says:

Djoko is attacking Nadal FH deep almost all the time and Nadal
Not holding a few balls. Seema a shift in tactics by Djoko


Daniel Says:

Nadal was 0-30 and djoko made an amazing defense to get back on that point. Saved 2 BP’ later with Nadal missing, 4-2 Djoko


Daniel Says:

Nadal’s BH is pretty solid today and he is hitting a few cross court flat ones.


nits Says:

Nadal although trailing is playing decent game but simply cannot match djokovic level


Daniel Says:

40-0 Nadal and now BP after a drop shot lobby combo


Daniel Says:

Nadal saved BP afer a great BH cross court to have a short ball and kill. Deuce.

He has to hold here to have ant chance this set still


Gypsy Gal Says:

Its great to see him thinking f*ck it nothing to lose here,so i will just go for it,and let whatever will be will be,that was a bad miss at the net though….


Daniel Says:

Fantastic return by Djoko and missed BH high volley by Nadal to get broken again. Djoko will serve for a 6-2 first set, easy set as most were predicting. But Nadal won some nice points but his FH is not what it was, several balls were out by a hair, long and wide, confidence still not there


elina Says:

6-2.

Easy peasy. NID you guys.


Daniel Says:

The problem in this macth up is that Djoko is now winning relatively easy. Apart from RG first set, which Djoko lead 4-0 serve, and was 7-5 the other sets are not going deep. And that is worrysome going forward specially in the kind of form Djoko is.

Also Djoko seems have found a balance this year where he cam sustain the high level all year. 8 title 1 set away and I won’t be surprside if he ends this year with 10. 2 more
Masters and WTF to be played, minimum he wins 1 more, probable 2, possible all 3


Pauly Says:

Like I predicted 6-2 6-3
Nadal simply can’t afford to get broken from 40-0 up on his serve but he did … That’s lack of confidence in his own game
The Nadal serve plus forehand is in decline


Gypsy Gal Says:

Yeah so you keep saying Elina….


Gypsy Gal Says:

Dear me i dont know whats more irritating,some of these comments or the way Rafas playing,thank goodness for posters like Daniel….


jalep Says:

The 1st set was better than the scoreline suggests.

Rafa’s getting closer to his 2013 level, I think. (shouldn’t be commenting on Rafa’s level :D

Yes elina, very happy you were right this time (about the 1st set, anyway)

but it’s not over…


Gypsy Gal Says:

Jalep hi,i hope your enjoying the final….


jalep Says:

Gypsy – read your comments on the other thread. It’s so true – when Rafa and Nole are playing Beijing, fans on tennis-x hardly notice any other tennis is going on. What Tokyo? What WTA race to Singapore?

Paire can be a spectacular shot-maker – very fun to watch. But, fell asleep after the 1st set. Was reasonably clear that Stan would win easily, although playing someone not his “best buddy”, Benoit would have been more focused and played better, imo.


FedExpress Says:

fed could have closed in the h2h department vs rafa this year


Gypsy Gal Says:

Jalep cheers,i will be MIA while Shanghais on as i have to get back to my dreaded course work grr,anyway i think this is Novaks to lose now,the ever irritating cliche of NID is springing to my mind now….


jalep Says:

GG, I’m not exactly relaxed about the match. Rafa is playing better than he has most of the year–which is a something I can appreciate. But, it’s a bit like me trying to watch Benoit v Kei. Never like seeing Kei lose but want it to be close with Kei winning. Instead, Benoit won. It interferes with enjoying the match when that happens – not quite an objective observer.


jalep Says:

lol, GG…


Daniel Says:

4-1 second set. Nadal just don’t have anything to hurt Djoko anymore specually if his FH is not clicking. On HC will be very hard for him to be competitve ever again agaisnt him. Maybe slow courst (AO, IW, Miami), but there is where Djoko is also supreme. If they meet again in one of the Masters or WTF expect similiar score.

Djoko for the year is 4-1 on Murray; 4-2 on Federer and 3-0 on Nadal. Dominance of main rivals


Daniel Says:

At least Nadal got one vintage FH DTL on the run in, another 30-30 game on Djoko serve, he had 3 of thos and one 15-40 but wasn’t able to play better the last points. Maybe he could have sneaked a break to improve score but he is not protecting his serve like he should. 5-1 Novak.


Pauly Says:

Thrashing
Nadal is no match for anyone in top 5


Pauly Says:

Only Federer Wawrinka murray can beat Djokovic
Nadal simply doesn’t have the weapons to trouble no one in top 5 … Sad to say it but it’s time he just accepted his fate & retired


Okiegal Says:

Well, my expectations of this match went as I thought it would….but all is not lost, Rafa has another final to add to his resume. There was a chance he couldn’t get that far….had some tough matches leading up to the finals.

Get out the pirate pants the sleeveless shirts and get into beast-mode, Rafael Nadal!! You got to do something to turn this thing around!!! Lol
Any way you slice it…..a big VAMOS from Okiegal!!


jalep Says:

Yep. That running Nadal forehand was Wafa at his best. Then Nole reciprocated with a spectacular volley on the next point – bringing out the best in each other at times this match.

Rafa fighting to the end…


Pauly Says:

Thank GOD it’s over my prediction 6-2 6-3 just failed
But nothing special from Djokovic … I think Nadal is just well below 2013 so nothing to get upset about for Nadal fans
It’s only China open … Who knows what 2016 will bring ?
Maybe better level from Nadal … I mean he can’t play any worse than at the moment ?
Can he ?

4-2 40-0 is where the game ended for Nadal
Had he won that game 4-3 he may have put some doubt in Novak’s mind but move on … Shanghai hopefully Federer can get some revenge on Nadal ?


Humble Rafa Says:

Lot of positives to take from this tournament. I am sure I can win many more titles and grandslams.

(Please give me the same respect as your favorite god after reading the above comments. Thank you)


J-Kath Says:

Rafa’s first set – better than the scoreline.
Turns his ankle – just what he needed – NOT

Not so great 2nd set….
So what – he’s in the final – equals 2nd best player in the tournament.

Shanghai coming up – a little bit of luck? and a little bit more confidence? – and he can go deep again.


Vami Says:

It was closer than what the result shows, certainly not trashing. Novak converted 4/5 break points, he played the important points better. Rafael can beat anyone at the moment but Novak. I wouldn’t be surprised if they meet again in the Shanghai final.


elina Says:

I predicted Novak winning 6-3, 6-2 with little resistance.

Back to oracle school for me I suppose.

Don’t ya just love it when that happenz.


Gypsy Gal Says:

Congrats Novak and fans,Jane,Mat4,Courbon,Wogboy,Michael and especially Jalep,better player won so no complaints….


J-Kath Says:

Pauly – There’s that old saying “Be careful what you wish for” It’s a bit of “sod’s law” as well.

Federer needs to reach semi-final to ensure his No.2 spot (or Murray has to lose very early)….he may not be there to “seek revenge” on (a recovering) Rafa.

If one had to choose between a positive or negative aspiration, it would be more admirable to go for the +. ???


Michael Says:

Hearty congratulations to Novak, the relentless Tennis machine for his unprecedented success at this particular tournament where he has never been beaten.

Coming to this match, I would say the score line is a bit deceiving and harsh on Rafa as many of the baseline exchanges were extremely competitive. Rafa I would say played some of the best Tennis I have seen from him for a long time in the hard court and was testing Novak. Yet, he had no answer to Novak’s sustained brilliance who was a player looking extremely confident and in great shape. He is the World’s No.1 for a reason and he proved his suitability to that status once again today for the Tennis World to witness.

The match had all the fire works and some breath taking shots despite the easy score line and I would say Rafa would be extremely comforted by the fact that he is playing near his best. But, that may not be enough to win against Novak who is so ahead of the field and if you have to beat him, nothing short of your very best would be enough and even that may end up short.

All the best to both the players for Shanghai !!

PS: And thank Alison for his congratulations. You can certainly be proud of the way Rafa played today and I enjoyed a very good, high quality and entertaining match despite the score line and I thank both the players for that.


elina Says:

Andy will pass Roger and will be the No. 2 player in the world when the rankings come out tomorrow as last year’s Shanghai points drop off.

Shanghai was played a week earlier last year.


jane Says:

yay novak! love it when he wins, even, apparently, with nothing special.

commies rafa fans. be interesting to see if he and fed meet in shanghai. it’s been a while and all year rafa lost the round before. maybe they’ll meet this time?


skeezer Says:

Congrats Nole and his fans. World #1, and playing like it. Domination times. As Rafa truly said, “he is in another league.”


elina Says:

Nadal didn’t play horribly today. Probably well enough to beat Roger next week should they both make it that far.


courbon Says:

Thank you GG! Well,I think Rafa fans can take only positives from this tourno and this final.
Some forehand winners by Rafa have been fantastic and serving was not that bad. For me only two things lack in Rafas game-speed ( I think he is bit slower then before ) and he is more nervous-confidence.
And Novak played just sublime and anybody would lose today against him.

P.S.-I feel for your been Rafa fan at the moment-some comments towards rafa on the blog, are really negative ( and kind of-kick him why he lays down ) and they go on my nerevs, and I’m not Rafa fan!

Oki-Hi there!I ‘m thinking about you.
Buy the way, I’m quite impressed with your computer skills-you are best pupil I ever had!


courbon Says:

Thanx skeezer


Gypsy Gal Says:

Elina jeez i think youve made your point by now, bloody hell anybody can make a prediction,and anybody can be right or wrong with their predictions,you predicted Roger would win the USO and you were wrong,you predicted Novak would beat Rafa OK you were right on this occasion,so what big deal it doesnt all of a sudden make you Nostradamus….


Daniel Says:

Murray will have 8550 pts (he will add 90 from Rotterdam but it will drop next week when Shangai add again).

Fed will have 8420 pts. Meaning, who ever goes a round deep gets #2 rankings. Also Fed bulk of points is Basel and London so they will be changing ranges until WTF when it will be decided who is going to end the year as #2. Grouping there could be very important for both Andy or Fed.


Gypsy Gal Says:

Michael your welcome and thankyou,as for Rafa i dont know what to think anymore,some say its been a positive week,others think hes a dead loss as a tennis player, so whos knows?….


elina Says:

Daniel Roger will most likely finish number 2 because his focus is on Davis Cup and is not committing to London.

GG well said. I was very close on my US open pick. Novak was the obvious pick.

As I said back to Oracle school for me.

Please don’t take me seriously. I certainly don’t. :)


Gypsy Gal Says:

Courbon hi,nice to see you here as always,Novak is playing at another level to everyone else this year,anyway about Rafa as i said to Michael i dont know what to think,i really need to get back to studying if i am to get my course work done,and i have a weekend away end of this month celebrating ALL HALLOWS EVE 24/25 this month,no naked dancing this time though too cold this time of the year brrrr ;-P….


Gypsy Gal Says:

OK Elina….


skeezer Says:

“Probably well enough to beat Roger next week should they both make it that far.”
Another poor prediction. But if that is the only positive lately anyone can dig out of for Rafa, then he is really doomed.
Btw, how many finals now has Rafa lost to Nole now? Where is those stats when you need them, darn.


elina Says:

A fedfan making an argument for head to head. When the shoe fitsI suppose

Not near the deplorable head to head that Roger has against Nadal. That would be depressing for Nadal fans. I can’t begin to imagine what it’s like skeezer.


Gypsy Gal Says:

Elina and Skeezer make me lol with their back and forths,like Ross and Rachel in that episode of Friends WE WERE ON A BREAK,NO WE WERENT….


Gypsy Gal Says:

Attention all posters there was actually another final been played today….


courbon Says:

Yes GG, I’m very glad Benoit was there-Years ago I watch him play and though he was so exciting and I thought he will be big one day.Unfortunatelly I was wrong but I’m happy he is doing well lately…
Anyway, I like Stan also so it was enjoable to watch for me.


Gypsy Gal Says:

Courbon there is alot of talent there that is for sure,but Stan is a two time GS champion and a very good player for sure,so i think he was always going to be up against it,but a very positive week for him never the less,anyway looking forward to seeing all the big players together again next week….


jalep Says:

Gypsy, thanks.

here’s Benoit Paire’s runner-up speech:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz6MjEaN0GM

At 42 seconds he says Stan is my best friend – very cute. But I get the feeling next time he won’t let that get in the way when they play. Allez Benoit!

Paire had a tough draw to the final: Dimitrov, Baghdatis, Kyrgios, Kei. All his matches went 3 sets.

Congrats to Novak Djokovic! PhenomeNole.


Tom Says:

Gypsy who cares about the other final. Really, this was all we cared about- No1e v. Rafa.

Sorry Rafa fans, nothing positive to take from this match. Rafa looks meek as ever. Got lucky to get to the final with no real opposition (good luck to him next week even making it to the 3rd round much less beating Roger). And No1e is just that dominant right now. All those years of aggressive court play has caught up to Rafa (no, I’m not bringing up the increased blood testing which has all of a sudden made the Spanish players just average… but we could). It doesn’t look good for him in 2016 and how some of you think he will turn it around in 2016 is amazing to me. 2013 looks like a fluke now…


jalep Says:

Watch out with your blood testing allegations, Tom. That could apply to some countries other than Spain in the future and we’d perhaps not be watching the likes of Muller having a hey-day at 32.


elina Says:

And some much older.


Gypsy Gal Says:

Tom speak for yourself,but dont do it for others….


Tom Says:

Jalep- lolololo….

I know. Some are rumbling about Roger because he’s 34. I’ve seen so many posts about drugs, steroids, doping, etc. that I just don’t care (not so much here, but other social media forums and pages). I just watch to be enertained. It amazes me how fans on all sides use that as a crutch when their guy loses. If they find someone then punish them. Until then just watch…


chris ford1 Says:

Tom – Not even cute. Like a politician saying at a rally – “I am not going to bring up the possibility that my opponent is suspected, in some quarters, of beating his wife and torturing puppies.”


courbon Says:

Chris, that’s sounds so like Donald…by the way, nice post last couple of days.


Daniel Says:

Djoko is 7-1 versus Nadal last 8 time they played after 2023 USO. The only positive Nadal has is that last 2 times he beat Novak was in Grand Slam matches, in USO 13 amd RG 14. But that Nadal is long out of that level and Djoko is actaully playing better than in both cases, so the future doesn’t look bright for their future constest at all. Only next year on European clay we’ll fully know where his level is at. I think this score is either the worst or on epd the worst Nadal ever got agaisnt Djoko, 4 games in 2 sets is even worse than RG 9 games in 3 sets.


Tom Says:

Gypsy, you’re the only one that brought it up. So I can safely assume you want us to give “Stanimal” some love. It’s obvious no one cares since he didn’t play Kei (or anyone else for that matter). What I learned from the Japan tournament is that someone from Luxembourg was actually good at tennis… and look like he stepped out of the 1970′s with that headband. ;-)


jalep Says:

Just giving you a heads-up, that you likely already know, Tom – it gets you moderated or banned here. You might not care, but I do respect tennis-x.

Topic closed to me – sorry.


jalep Says:

It’s nice to see Muller having success, agree there.


courbon Says:

Tom, not only you are upseting Nadal fans but now all Luxembourgians?If I was you, I would watch waling in a dark alley with Luxembourgian Rafa fan behind your back…


Gypsy Gal Says:

Tom ah Tom was that the same Tom that told me during the FO that any Rafa fans that said Andy or Stan had a chance against Novak were simply just bitter or words to that effect,and boldly stated that the title was Novaks,well we all know how that faired dont we,if not then sorry,anyway fair enough you cant force folks to be interested if they are not i suppose,i just thought it was called tennis-x not Novak-x,like Jalep says though topic closed for me also….


Emily Says:

Some of us do care about Stan winning Tokyo and watching a great and really positive final. He didn’t play Kei b/c Paire played an amazing match against him.


Emily Says:

@GG, right on. Is that why Tom doesn’t want to talk about Tokyo, b/c Stan was the winner?


Gypsy Gal Says:

HI Emily here/here,some of us actually love the game of tennis itself and like to talk about different players,we arent all fixated on just one player….


Tom Says:

Courbon – hahahaha!!!

I didn’t know Luxomberg had any dark alleys since the median income is over 100,000 Euros there. I might be more fearful of some banker ruining my finances (since it’s a tax shelter haven. Yes I’ve driven through it just to say I was there. It did take me about 35 minutes but it was a cute little country). All kidding aside I did think Muller played well and hung in there against Stan at 32.

Gypsy, how was I supposed to know No1e was going to get distracted by Stan’s awful atire at the French? ;-)


Kimberly Says:

Hi all, maybe I’m a Nadal fan wearing rose colored glasses but I actually thought match was closer than the score.

However, as Rafa said, Novak is in another league than him right now. He needs to worry about beating the rest of the tour, Fognini, Nishikori etc. When/if he can consistently beat the rest of the field (like he did in 2011 or like Federer does now) then he can focus on how to beat Djokovic.


Gypsy Gal Says:

Well if thats all you can come up with then your SOH leaves much to be desired,sorry no lols or smiley faces from me Tom….


Gypsy Gal Says:

Take a tip from Courbon,now that is funny….


Gypsy Gal Says:

HI Kimberly nice to see you here again,its been too long….


jalep Says:

Liked Tokyo matches overall better than Beijing – but it’s debatable.

Rafole gave us a very good match – looking at the scoreline, after the fact, doesn’t do the match justice.

Emily, Stan was monstrous. From Benoit’s side it wasn’t his best – versus Kei though, wow. But watching true best friends before and after the match was refreshing. Their picture on the ATP website is awesome.


chris ford1 Says:

Hard not to put No1e as the #1 conversation topic when he is having another monster year.
But on the up side, Federer is playing some of the best tennis of his life, Andy has improved as well (especially on clay), Stan has had a major triumph and overall standout year in 2015, and Rafa is maintaining a positive attitude and working hard – credit him with that – to get back to being a big 4 player.


Tom Says:

Oh, very serious Gypsy. There’s always hope for Rafa on the Senior Circuit. Should be competive there. And boy Stan sure did look tough against No1e in Cincy. How about that laydown against Roger in NY? Even Johnny Mak called him out for that. Couldn’t have made it more obvious he wanted Feds to stroll in against No1e in the final (didn’t help him in the end). That’s why I can’t take Stan serious. He shows up, then doesn’t.


Kimberly Says:

thank you Gypsy Gal! I watched the Rafole match with little expectation and I wasn’t as disappointed in Rafa as much as amazed by Djokovic. He is really in a zone. To beat Isner 6-2 6-2 was amazing on a hardcourt to me. Isner is always good to get to 6-4 at worst.


Gypsy Gal Says:

Pretty much like the posters here then with a bad commedy routine….


Gypsy Gal Says:

Kimberly true….


Gypsy Gal Says:

Ive never seen why people cant just enjoy the success of their own favorites without the need to p*ss on other players when doing so….


courbon Says:

Tom,there is one dark alley in Luxembourg.Just one.That’s the one to watch!
You are right, not bad from Muller; I watched him in 2012 I think at Wimby versus Rafa.He was Ok, but it was difficult to watch match with all women around me drolling over rafa…( He is so cute…ahhh… )Obviously Rafa won


Emily Says:

@Chris, no-one’s saying that Novak shouldn’t be the most talked about topic. It’s just that a lot of people here like to discuss a variety of players and other tournaments.

Congrats to Nole, commiserations to Rafa fans…oh, and Tom, I never take anything JMac says seriously w/ his hyperbole and grandiose statements. He plays favorites when it’s most convenient. I saw him call out Delpo for his loss against Hewitt at the USO, when he was clearly injured.


Gypsy Gal Says:

Courbon LMAO,i only have eyes for an Australian hunk though….


jalep Says:

Muller needs some fans. GOAT Muller.


Gypsy Gal Says:

Australian film star should say….


Humble Rafa Says:

Where is those stats when you need them, darn.

Good luck to you and your cats.


chris ford1 Says:

It is pretty wild that we have the Djokovic Fed rivalry (perhaps the closest and highest quality rivaly so far) at 21-21.
And Nole-Rafa at 23-22, edge still to Rafa.

And Nole is the hunter. And while Rafa is a hurtin’ puppy, Fed still has the goods to take Nole on and beat him in certain venues – which include all 3 remaining events the two will enter.


Gypsy Gal Says:

Kimberly are you sticking around?….


jane Says:

wow jalep, benoit did have a brutal draw! amazing how well he’s doing.


jalep Says:

He did have a brutal draw, jane. I watched the Dimitrov match, made a point of it because anticipating Grigor to have a change of fortune.

Grigor did fight. The match went the distance. Baghdatis has been playing relatively well.

Kyrgios. Nick the perpetual Kid is growing up. Looked very focused. But Benoit prevailed. It was a decent match, not easy.

Paire is impressing me again as he has in the past. Still he’s one of those guys — have to see it to believe it. He’s not a threat to Nole yet, if ever.


Okiegal Says:

@Courbon……I’m so glad I’ve impressed someone!
Congratulations to all Novak fans! He was stellar today. I didn’t think Rafa played all that bad….He had his chances to break Novak, but couldn’t get it done today! On to Shanghai…..VAMOS RAFA!!


Gypsy Gal Says:

Okie, Janis agree about Courbon whos a funny guy,unlike some who have no idea and think they are funny but fail miserably….


Gypsy Gal Says:

Beniot Paire has a look of Shakiras other half Footballer Gerard Pique….


Wog Boy Says:

“Muller needs some fans. GOAT Muller.”

Sorry jalep, as much as I like you I just can’t find anything exciting in Muller game, maybe that 70′s headband look only, I watched him in Sydney this year and the spectators were walking out of Ken Rosewall Arena to watch doubles instead, including myself, the most frustrating Nole match at AO was against Muller, even Nole got so pissed of that I thought he is about to walk out on the match.

Frenchie,
it looks like you are very familiar with dark allies..Belgrade, London, Paris and even that dangerous country called Luxemburg..that reminds me of how we use to brake the lights
In the parks and bush on Kalemegdan fortress when we use to go with our girlfriends for a “walk” in the evening around fortress, I wonder why did we do that..


skeezer Says:

“I can’t begin to imagine what it’s like skeezer.”

Its like this. 17.

Its one thing continually hang nail goat qualities on a h2h with your fav, but totally on a different level losing in finals to the same guy over, and over, and over…you get the idea, no?


elina Says:

You mean like the eight times Nadal stopped Roger from adding to his seventeen? On all the slam surfaces? Being the sole blemish on what would have otherwise made him the undisputed GOAT?

Ouch, mew and shamonnnn all in one?


skeezer Says:

Uep, despite alllll thaaat, he is still the all time SLAM leader.
Oh my.


Kimberly Says:

Gypsy gal, I will be around for the end of the year tourneys, why not. Havent been posting and not sure why. Read occasionally. Love tennis, playing and watching as much as ever. Like Jalep I have been quite into the WTA. Maybe because anything can happen there, as we saw in flushing meadows.


elina Says:

Great I’m glad we agree. Stick to slam count. As a fedfan I’d stay away from head to head with Nadal who is a combined 19=6 vs fedole, two of the very best to have ever played the game.


skeezer Says:

Agree? LMAO. Best you tell your fav to stay from Rafole finals. An all time record so far.

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