Novak Djokovic Sets Rafael Nadal SF At ATP Finals, Will Roger Federer Play Andy Murray Or Stan Wawrinka?
by Staff | November 19th, 2015, 7:37 pm
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One Saturday semifinal is set at the ATP Finals, and that’s a sizzling showing between the resurgent Rafael Nadal and World No. 1 Novak Djokovic.

Djokovic advanced to meet his rival taking care of Tomas Berdych in straight sets 6-3, 7-5. Djokovic need only a set to advance to the semifinals, but he got two as he ran he record against Berdych to 21-2.

“Rafa has another match tomorrow and I’m going to watch that a little bit with my team and prepare,” Djokovic said. “Hopefully I’ll be able to perform at my best because that’s what’s needed to win against him.”

For the first time in six appearances, Berdych finishes 0-3 in the round robin.

“It’s a bit disappointing not to have any wins here,” said Berdych. “[But] it’s not about ‘if’ or whatever impression you may have. It’s always about the result. I think tennis is about that. There is only a winner and loser, nothing in between. I think I had a slight good chance, but that’s how it is. There were quite a few mistakes in the tough moments. That decided it today.”

Earlier, Roger Federer dropped his first set after blowing a 4-1 second set lead before winning in three 7-5, 4-6, 6-4.

Federer, who struggled with his second serve all day, finishes the group 3-0 and rides into his 13th semifinal at the event.

“I enjoyed the match,” said Federer. “It wasn’t easy, but somehow I got it done. I look forward to playing him hopefully more often in the future.

Federer now awaits his semifinal opponent which will either be Stan Wawrinka or Andy Murray. The two collide tomorrow evening for the final semifinal spot.

Murray leads 8-6 but Wawrinka won the two most recently clashes back in 2013 in straight sets. Wawrinka’s also made the semifinals in both prior ATP Finals appearances.

“It’s going to be interesting for sure,” said Wawrinka of Murray. “We used to have some big battle in the past, some tough match, three sets, four sets. It’s going to be interesting how I’m going to play Friday, if I’m going to bring the positive game that I start to play today, and also how he’s going to be.”

“He’s having amazing year, No. 2 in the world. So dangerous indoor, especially at home. So we’ll see. We’ll see how he’s going to be also Friday.”

With Murray keyed on the Davis Cup final, Wawrinka acknowledged the circumstance, one he was in a year ago.

“It’s tough to say what he’s thinking,” Wawrinka said. “If he’s completely focused or not. If he’s already thinking too much about Davis Cup.

“Maybe he’s going to feel more relaxed, no pressure, go for it more, or maybe he’s not going to be completely here. We’ll know how he is. If he’s mentally not really here, then he’s a different player.

“I was 100% focused here because it was important for me, then I switched in two days.”

In the first match at 9am ET, Nadal faces countryman David Ferrer. With Ferrer eliminated and Nadal already clinched the Group win, the two will play for 200 ranking points and $167K. Nadal, though, will likely take it easy with a rested Djokovic looming Saturday at 2pm local time.


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228 Comments for Novak Djokovic Sets Rafael Nadal SF At ATP Finals, Will Roger Federer Play Andy Murray Or Stan Wawrinka?

AndyMira Says:

Although we can almost imagine the result,i have hope that rafa will fight till the end like a great warrior that he is..if he win..that’s a bonus..if not there’s always next time..


Pauly Says:

Nadal must play offensive tennis not defensive against Djokovic or else he has no chance … Attack the lines not just go crosscourt !
Should be great game if both play at their best … Djokovic Is favourite for sure but Nadal will put on good match .
Should Nadal win somehow … He will struggle against Federer I think ?


jane Says:

awkward… beard questions. lol.


Armend V Says:

Nadal should get through to the final.
Here are some amazing stats on how our Top 50 Players are getting older, not that I mind, but it seems interesting, and explains how Fed and Nadal are topping their Finals groups right now:

Average age of current ATP Top players by
Top 50: 28.3
Top 40: 28.5
Top 30: 28.6
Top 20: 28.7
Top 10: 30.1
Top 5: 30.2
Top 3: 30.4


Pauly Says:

Nadal won’t beat Djokovic
Whenever he plays Djokovic he seems to play too passive … Must attack play offensive tennis or else face defeat … My prediction Djokovic vs Federer in final
Djokovic will win as usual to top of greatest year ever


Gypsy Gal Says:

Daniel help me out here please,Does Rafa still top the group if he loses to Ferrer,or does this all depend on other permetations?….


Jac Says:

He does. In case of 2 players tie-break direct match between two is decisive. He won both with Stan and Andy


Gypsy Gal Says:

Thanks Jac ;)….


calmdownplease Says:

“It’s going to be interesting how I’m going to play Friday, if I’m going to bring the positive game that I start to play today, and also how he’s going to be.”

Quite.
Even Andy Murray doesn’t know which Andy Murray will turn up!


calmdownplease Says:

`Djokovic will win as usual to top of greatest year ever’

No.
I don’t mean that he won’t win, he’s got a good shot.
But it is not the ‘greatest year ever’.
His 2011 was.


Felipe Says:

Djokovic always bring his best once the semi finals of a big tournament arrives, specially against big rivals. At Bercy, he played kind of crap until the semis when he founded a second gear against wawrinka and the following day he destroyed Andy Murray.
Nadal must play perfect, serve above 75% with a lot of body services and return as close to the baseline as possible in order to have chances


Pauly Says:

In 2011

Djokovic didn’t make French open final
This year is his greatest year not 2011
He even said 2015 was his best year …. He will win this tournament also unless Nadal can play like US OPEN 2013?
Must go down the line offensive tennis is only way but Djokovic will break Nadal’s serve easy if he can’t serve at his best !
My prediction
Djokovic 6-4 7-5

Djokovic vs Federer final ?
Djokovic will win that capping off greatest year ever !!


calmdownplease Says:

@Pauly

ONLY ON THE SURFACE DOES IT LOOK THAT WAY!

He had virtually no one to stop him most of the year!
A 34 year old tennis player that hasn’t won a slam in 3 years was, by far (and to his credit), his best competition.
With a bit of wawa and Murray (both required) to offer their virtually only real opposition in the FO.
I don’t care how you blow it up with fanboy hyperbole and points won, it’s all relative as Einstein would say.
I saw it and bought the T Shirt
2011 was better by miles!


Pauly Says:

2015 best ever year Djokovic said
Enough said
Calm down please


Pauly Says:

2016???

Will be Djokovic’s best ever year he will win 4 majors
Ok let’s end the debate


calmdownplease Says:

Well he would say that, wouldn’t he?
It was a piece of cake in comparison to 2011.
Look dude, I know this gets you all hot and bothered but you don’t convince me one bit spouting out what he won etc
I look at the context too.
And the context was much better in 2011′
Anyway I’ve said my bit, it doesn’t really matter either way.


calmdownplease Says:

@Pauly

What, are you talking to yourself now?!

And no he wont be winning 4 majors next year..

I DON’T think.


NK Says:

Nadal has a good chance given how slow the court is playing. Tailor-made for his game. Never seen an indoor court so slow as this one.


Margot Says:

“We know how he is. If he’s mentally not here, he’s a different player.”
Oh lol, dear Stan so true about Andy……but honey it could equally apply to your good self….


calmdownplease Says:

Very True Margot
Demonstrably true all but a few days ago.
But you’ve got to admit he’s still spot on about this present Muzz.


Pauly Says:

Calm down please

Djokovic will win the tournament
That’s all I will say
2015 will be his best year
Ask him

Enough said


calmdownplease Says:

hehe

No, it’s NOT


Tennis Vagabond Says:

This will be the first time I’ve looked forward to a Nadal/Novak hard court match. I have found their past hard court battles interminably boring. But they are different players, and its exciting in the context of Rafa’s comeback and Novak’s stellar year.
I believe Novak will win, I just don’t think Rafa can run with him any more. But if Rafa SHOULD win, I think he’ll take the title, and THAT will be an amazing storyline to end 2015 on!

But we’re getting ahead of ourselves. We have two brilliant head cases to face off first!


Daniel Says:

Nadal start strong playing solidy and inside the court, at one point was 10-1 in points and he was up 3-0 doible breack. Suddenly his serve not effective and Ferrer getting rhytm on return with some nice FH winner on the line to get back for 4-3.

That is the main problem with Nadal, his serve is not a weapon and it is worst than it was a few years. He is vulnerable in his services games even of his baseline is working.


Daniel Says:

Ferrer missed a golden oportunity to break back and force a tiebreak with a volley, had triple BPand now set point Nadal


Daniel Says:

And there uou have Nadal the greater volley missing and easy volley when forced to come in not plan, Ferrer breaks back and force a tiebreak


Daniel Says:

And Ferrer takes the first set in a match that wirths nothing, only his pride. Great effort from him.

Nadal better regroup because the wat he started seems he was in control. Played an horrible last game serving for set and tiebreak.

Corious to see if he will “tank” and save himself 1 set for tomorrow or go for practice and try to win, Ferrer is a good test pre Djoko but matters for him is tomorrow.


skeezer Says:

Yes one of the greatest volleyers ever according to……one.


jeez Says:

DOES ATP NOT WANT FERRER TO WIN ANY SET LET ALONE A MATCH ???

Talk about bad luck but bad calls(& over rules) on

1)game points
2)break points
3)set points

:-/


jeez Says:

DOES ATP NOT WANT FERRER TO WIN ANY SET LET ALONE A MATCH ???

Talk about bad luck but bad calls(& over rules) on

1)game points
2)break points
3)set points

:-/

But FERRER had a challenge @ 6-2 tie-break this time…
:-)


Okiegal Says:

Net cord….I’ll take it!


jeez Says:

This match could very well be like

Federer-Nishikori one,where Federer was coming of 2

good wins only to SLUMP Needing 3 SETS..


FedExpress Says:

hahahah. rafa is back.hahahaha

led with a double break. served even for the set and still lost it.

thought fed did his best job to throw sets away but nadal tops it


RZ Says:

Gotta admire Ferrer. He doesn’t back down.


Margot Says:

jeez, jeez can you stop posting in BOLD? Jeez it doesn’t half hurt.


Felipe Says:

Wow!…Ferrer with like a million unforced errors and Nadal will just win the second to force athird set. He better regroup for tomorrow, since the guy o the other side of the net will give him a lot less free points


Dascochoke Says:

Nadal should of just tanked this match. Whats he doing? stop using all your energy.

He needs to be fresh for Djokovic.


calmdownplease Says:

Ferrer has still played much better than either Wawrinka or Muzz against Rafa.
Who’d have thought that?


courbon Says:

Jeez, can you tell me how do you make letters in Bold? I’m trying but no success..I want to annoy Margot.


RZ Says:

@Courbon, that’s not very nice!


Margot Says:

Lol courbon…you can go off people you know…;) To me it’s like SHOUTING!
BTW did you see James’ latest? Send more hair quick!
Lol is it Ferrer’s role in life to wear people out?


FedExpress Says:

petchy said again

“best volleyer on the tour” how? this is like one says “nole has the best smash on the tour”


RZ Says:

BTW, I wasn’t chastising Courbon, just showing off that I can also do bold font. :-)


Margot Says:

@RZ
Pffui…so you /B


Dave Says:

I’m not sure who you are talking about as being the best volleyer. If it’s Nadal, he statistically has a very high percentage of net points won. He won 15 of 17 in the Ferrer match today. I would see he is definitely one of the most underrated volleyers for sure and statistically might be the best. He doesn’t look the best style wise when he volleys, but that doesn’t really matter. Results are what matter.


skeezer Says:

Rafa is a baseliner, he is NOT a proficient volley master. Most of his volleys are finishing volleys where he has done the damage from the backcourt and is just finishing off the point. That said, he has in the past made some good volleys, but its laughable to say he is the best on Tour.


RZ Says:

@Margot, I can also italicize! (I hope that worked, otherwise I would look foolish)


Dave Says:

I won’t say he is the best. He has shown his volleying skills on all types of volleys as well. Not just finishing volleys. He seems to deaden the ball better or as well as anyone I have seen. I wouldn’t go as far as saying that he is the best, but he is a lot better than people give him credit for.


Ben Pronin Says:

Saying Nadal has the best volleys on tour is nothing like saying Djokovic has the best smash… that’s implying Nadal has horrendous volleys that he misses more often than not, which is not the case.

Nadal has good volleys. I wouldn’t say they’re underrated since so many people claim he’s the best. They’re sufficient and get the job done more often than not. But not the best.


Margot Says:

RZ, showing off now :0……..off to look it up…..
/B


courbon Says:

How the f*** you do that bold?????
I think my browser is crap….
Margot-hair in the post.I’ll try to get some of TB also…


Dave Says:

I agree with you Ben. Djokovic has a terrible smash. It cost him on match point against Nadal in the Olympic semi-finals. Nadal doesn’t miss a lot of volleys.


jatin Says:

So both R’s are undefeated in the tournament so far
Really excited for Rafa vs Nole semi final, should be a cracker.

Meanwhile, some good news for fellow fed fans.

Federer agrees to play Stuttgart tournament through 2017
http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2015/11/federer-agrees-to-play-stuttgart-tournament-through-2017/56855/#.Vk9sbjaheHk

So he is here to stay for atleast 2 years.. Yay :)


RZ Says:

@Margot and Courbon – look, I can bold, italicize, and underline at the same time!
(Again, I hope I’m not making myself look foolish by this not working)


RZ Says:

^okay, underline didn’t work but I got bold and italic! :-)


Tennis Vagabond Says:

I’ll take the bait and go father: Rafa is an excellent volleyer. Not the best for sure, but the best in the top ten outside Roger. If #2 volleyer in the top 10 isn’t considered great, then what is the criteria?

Absolutely true that volleying is not part of his game plan, but I disagree that the majority of his volleys are to finish a point (i.e. tactical). The majority are when he is unexpectedly drawn to the net and I have seen him hit many good volleys from really tough, low positions, or in no mans land in the middle of the service box.


James Says:

Djokovic must be smiling since Nadal had a tough match today and less than 24hrs to recover. Djokovic is rested and a year younger. I can’t see Nadal beating Djokovic tomorrow.

As for Fed, HE is the one that needs some luck now – for Murray Stan match to go the distance so that he can have an easier semi, since he has less than 24 hours to recover for the final if he wins the semi.

the scheduling is really messed up. Players should be on an even footing in terms of rest time, otherwise its not fair.


courbon Says:

RZ, stop showing off…
By the way, which player is your favorite?If I remember well, it’s Fed, but I’m not sure..?


RZ Says:

@Courbon, okay I’ll stop showing off now. I’ll tell you the secret if you promise not to bug Margot too much. :-)

Murray is my favorite player, Fed is a close second (when I started posting on Tennis-X a few years ago, it was the other way round). Berdych is my least favorite.


RZ Says:

^ Also like Tommy Haas a lot.


Tennis Vagabond Says:

@ Skeeze: Its not like we’re in the Becker/Edberg era. The bar for volleying excellence is quite low! Just comparing to current players.


elina Says:

Ben no not the best.

Just the best of the Big four.


skeezer Says:

^ROFL!


skeezer Says:

@TV
True dat. Except when you compare to Fed of course. I’ll tell you this, Dustin Brown is a WAY better volleyer than Rafa will ever be. The bar is there, ya just need to take a gander. Compare that.


Chrisford1 Says:

I like Djokovic’s smashes, up to a certain point. Not when it cost him the 2008 Olympics, but just for showing he can be human and awfully bad at times on one just one skill. One place where I can say EVEN I, let alone EVEN ANDY have never hit certain smashes as horrific as Nole has occasionally been guilty of. Crimes against the art of the sport.

Every long-time Nole fan has learned to cringe when they see a smash coming. Even his team cringes a bit when he sets up for one, then breaks into wild applause and encouragement if he makes it. There have been Djoko-smashes that happen 4-5 meters from the net that not only fail to clear the net, but don’t make it to the net at all.

Fortunately, he has improved significantly over the years on dealing with smashes, as is his way.

As for Nole’s 2015 being better than his own 2011 or Rogers 2006 or way back when for Laver playing mediocre tennis at many events but getting the 3 “prestige” events plus the Australian National Championships (pre bona fide Slam days) – I guess we will have to wait until the WTF IS over. Someone else wins Barclay’s, then Nole’s 2015 isn’t as good as the abovementioned calendar year results. If it is, I will argue that it is better than the 2006 season of Fed or Nole’s 2011 (which was certainly the best 3/4ths a year of tennis ever before the “Ferrari” broke down.)

It is already the best rolling 365 ever, finals or better in every event he entered since Paris 2014 save a 250 warmup event. Most ATP points ever. Owning at present titles to 3 of 4 Majors, 6 of 9 Masters, and the WTF. Finalist in Paris, Montreal, and Cincinnati.


Wog Boy Says:

I really think that it’ll be enough for Nole only to make a final for this year to be declared best year in open era history. He would have quite a few records achieved in 2011, first man to brake 16K points mark and finish the year with more than 16K points (nobody achieved that even after points adjustment), 6 masters in one year, 15 final, 30 top10 wins and it goes on and on and on ….and this year is already better than 2011, if you look at the year as lot.


Margot Says:

even Andy
even Andy
even Andy
even Andy


elina Says:

Listen up people, do you hear there?

That ROFL reeks of the rancid sound of nervous laughter.

And it makes me wonder.


Margot Says:

@RZ
Underline/striking out wouldn’t work for me either :(
Come on Andy


Wog Boy Says:

It should say “He would have quite a few records achieved in 2015..” and not “in 2011″


jeez Says:

By early looks of it,its going to be a TIGHT

3 SET MATCH..

Good for the audience but BAD for either

Murray

Or

Wawrinka

Playing SEMI tomorrow…!!


Ben Pronin Says:

Federer is a better volleyer than Nadal.

Tennis tournament schedules have been unfair since the beginning of time. At Masters. At slams. At WTF. Even at 500s and 250s. Hell, even in the juniors! It’s just a part of the sport. Outside of Super Saturday, you never hear players complaining about it. In Australia, one semifinalist gets 2 days off instead of 1. At Wimbledon, half the players get 2 days off in the middle of the tournament instead of 1. It is what it is.


jeez Says:

It seems Murray is not too concerned about upcoming

DAVIS CUP tie

Hmmmmm….???


jeez Says:

MOONRINKA !!


Daniel Says:

This looks like will be a well contested match. Both had BP’s early on but are holding easy.


Daniel Says:

Me and my mouth, now 0-40 for Wawa and if he breaks serve for first set 6-3


Daniel Says:

Yeah Murray, serve and volley. He should do this at lear once per service game


RZ Says:

Darn it Daniel!!!


Daniel Says:

Wawa breaking Murray BH and unleashing a c’mon at the end.


jeez Says:

MOONRINKA BREAKS

5-3 !!


jatin Says:

This is the first time I am watching stan play after his match against roger in the USO and man he is zoning right now.
I wish he was more consistent, his backhand is such a killer and beautiful at the same time. One of the best in the tour
Leads 5-3


jeez Says:

DF

BP MURRAY!!!


Daniel Says:

DF Wawa returning the favor and now BP murray to ger back


elina Says:

Roger’s volleying skills are overrated. Wawrinka is a better volleyer.


Daniel Says:

Ball was out, wrong overule by umpire. Murray try to be more attacking but misses. Too passive today still


jeez Says:

Lucky that AWFUL CORRECTION did not ruin that point.

But Murray has 2nd BP NOW


jatin Says:

Andy at his very best. What defending. Amazing
Breaks back


jeez Says:

With that Title for WORST VOLLEYING goes to

WAWRINKA

5-4 on serve


FedExpress Says:

wtf was that? umpire man u did a fab job u mug


Ben Pronin Says:

Elina, for someone who claims to have a hawkeye it sounds like you haven’t watched Federer play at all this year. He has the best volleys of at least the top 10. Probably higher but I don’t feel like checking the rankings right now.


Daniel Says:

Sorry elina but even for you this is too much. Sometimes uou have to let you bias go, Federer is the beter volleyer of top 10, gands down and no question about it. Some may argue Nadal’s case as a “decent” volley, ocasionaly he makes a sensational one, but so do everybody else, even Djoko and Murray😜
But ig uou quantify by the amount of great volleys Fed has done time and again compare to Nadal who rarely comes to net there is no discussion. Seems that you just want to stir things up, just to cause discussion


jatin Says:

I am glad I decided to watch this match. Loving it.


Daniel Says:

What a drop by Murray, looked high but so much spin it died.


FedExpress Says:

hahahaha

murray moonballing ahahhahahaha


FedExpress Says:

in all honesty murray is playing like a WTA players


jeez Says:

Why do we see this much

MOONBALLING from Eiter player???

5-5 NOW….


FedExpress Says:

what a pusher


FedExpress Says:

hahahahaha. this is a total new sport which the two created. moonballing to death. nadal can join them


jatin Says:

Moonballing is fun sometimes :)


FedExpress Says:

hahahahaha. murray cant hit flat it seems. every ball is a moonball


courbon Says:

FedExpress and Jeez remind me of Statler and Waldorf from Muppet Show


jeez Says:

Better volley from STAN


Daniel Says:

Well contested it is, tiebreak.


Ben Pronin Says:

The bounce on this court is ridiculous. I don’t think they’re hitting moonballs, I think they’re purposely hitting with a lot of top spin to make the other guy hit a more uncomfortable shot.

The ball bounces and goes above each guy’s head. That’s probably why Nadal hasn’t complained since the tournament started, he’s finally happy it’s on clay :D.


Daniel Says:

Indeed, they are both moonballing a lot. Wawa knows Murray doesn’t attach this shot. I remember agaisnt Djoko in AO and RG everytime Djoko left a ball highmud courr Murray missed trying tk acelerate.


Daniel Says:

This set is crucial, who ever wins it takes the match. Can’t see the loser of the set making an effort to come back, 1 hr already.


Daniel Says:

Murray minibreak up.


jeez Says:

@Courbon

ok FOZIE BEAR

HEH he…


Daniel Says:

Now Wawa turning the breaker, 5-4 Murray to serve


FedExpress Says:

hahaha murray


FedExpress Says:

murray has no FH hahahahahhahahaha

gasquet can be proud


jatin Says:

Stan gets the first set


Daniel Says:

And Wawa takes first set. Seems he will keep his perfect record of reaching semis in WTF. Murray missed his shots.

Talking to tourney director, think he is complaining from Wawa’s scream. Heard something like this


FedExpress Says:

why is murrays camp sitting on the balcony? wtf


jeez Says:

Murray crying about STAN’S

late challenge !!!

Really ???


jeez Says:

Where was that FH till now ???


jeez Says:

Breaks early

1-0 STAN..


Daniel Says:

Super FH DTL from Wawa to set BP. Break after Murray netted a FH.


Wog Boy Says:

I like this thread while I am having my favorite bacon and egg roll for breakfast, apart of few posters the others sound like they are posting from kindergarten..


jeez Says:

STAN THE MAN …

2-0


FedExpress Says:

hahaha. murrays moevement


jeez Says:

Looks like STAN is in the zone right now…


jeez Says:

Spoken too soon !!!??


FedExpress Says:

from 40-0 to deuce

now adv wawa


Wog Boy Says:

I am not watching but checking stats, Stan is serving 45% of the first serve and yet one of the best defensive players can’t break him or even have more break chances, something is wrong or Andy’s head is not in O2 but it instead in Belgium.


FedExpress Says:

why tf is wawrinka serving? like he did on every MP vs fed last year? like a possesed man


FedExpress Says:

serve and volleying i mean


FedExpress Says:

wawrinka at his best>>>>>murray at his best


jeez Says:

END IS NEAR ??


RZ Says:

You know the Belgian DC team is watching this and hoping for a Murray comeback.


FedExpress Says:

masterclass from wawrinka now


jeez Says:

OUT RALLYING/RUNNING MURRAY !!!


FedExpress Says:

5-2 wawrinka

federer wawrinka should be fun


jeez Says:

5-2

STAN will serve for the MATCH now


Daniel Says:

This match Murray’s FH is awful, netting a lot. Wawa breaks and will serve for the match.

This keeps Fed hunt for #2 for the year still alive and possibly #2 seed in AO (next year Fed defends Brisbane) so he could still lose points and Murray can gain.

As for Murray focus on DC now and finish the year with a great win for his country.


jeez Says:

Who thinks STAN would be broken here???

Hmmmm…


Wog Boy Says:

RZ,

Just by following the result I don’t think Andy is interested in coming back, he did his bit, pleased organizers and public by turning up in London.


Daniel Says:

0-40, not so fast


FedExpress Says:

hahahahaha mugrinka

0-40


elina Says:

Meer coincidence that three Roger fans call me biased.

Roger has one of the best serves in tennis but the volley (when not S&V) is not the best especially when compared to Nadal’s.


Daniel Says:

And he gets 1 break back. Can he do a comeback?! Is he really willing to it? Hope so, show some fight. Wanted a Big 4 semis reunion.


jeez Says:

I think STAN wants to RUIN Murray’s

Davis cup dream by tanking this SET2!!!

:-)


Daniel Says:

Ok elina, stay in wonderland


RZ Says:

@Wog Boy – I feel that way too! I’d have loved all the big 4 in the semis, but I’m much more interested in Team GB nabbing the Davis Cup.


jeez Says:

STAN thinking

TO TANK OR NOT (SET 2) ????

:-)


Wog Boy Says:

“And he gets 1 break back. Can he do a comeback?! Is he really willing to it? Hope so, show some fight. Wanted a Big 4 semis reunion.”

Rubbish, you want them to wear each other for Roger;)


Daniel Says:

Moment of the truth for Wawa now, serving for the match again. If he misses he could implode


FedExpress Says:

0-15


FedExpress Says:

0-30


Ben Pronin Says:

Does anyone know the math for the number 2 ranking? Murray has a pretty sizable lead over Federer it looks like, what would have to happen for Federer to overtake Murray for the year end?


FedExpress Says:

2 BPs


jeez Says:

Why is Murray so frustrated(on losing pt)as if it’s the

FINAL ???


Daniel Says:

Wog Boy,

I want Novak to win this tourney to crown his amazing year beyond doubt. Just the win he got from Novak was already sweat, can’t see him beating Novak twice in one week.

If Fed is to win it, hope he does fighting like Kei match and I always want to watch contested match than have 1 player with advantage over the other due to schedule or other factors.

Don’t project what you want regarding players fresh or not on me


jeez Says:

GRIMACING

CURSING

&

RUNNING

SMASHING RACKET

MP


Daniel Says:

Ben,

Fed has to win WTF and Murray not win here. If Murray gets a second win he seals #2 regardless of DC.

Damm, thiught Murray would break again, but instead he destroys the racquet


jeez Says:

Huh oh!!

DEUCE


Daniel Says:

Also think Wawa will be more a challenge for either Fed or Djoko at this stage (semis or finals), but Murray needs to win something big and beat the top players if he wants to win Slams or reach #1 in his career


Wog Boy Says:

Daniel,
Just teasing you:)


Daniel Says:

Another MP Wawa


jeez Says:

WAWRINKA has done himself as well as Murray a huge

FAVOUR !!!


jeez Says:

WAWRINKA has done himself as well as Murray a huge

FAVOUR !!!

If you can believe that …


Ben Pronin Says:

So basically Federer has to win the title? Yeah that seems about right.


RZ Says:

@Ben – to complicate things, Murray would likely get some points from DC. Not sure how much those would affect the race for #2.


FedExpress Says:

wawa has more fans than andy wtf


Daniel Says:

I know Wog Boy, isn’t it all we do here?!

Wawa on another semis. Must be a cracjer versus Roger as he sure want revange from last year controversial match. Plus he was screaming in Murray’s face a lot so tomorrow will be a tense match. Actually both matches will as Nadal also even as underdog knows that on this court he has a chance.


FedExpress Says:

and wawrinka thanked the crowd now three times already


Daniel Says:

Think Djoko is big favorite tomorrow, everybody broke Nadal’s serve this week and Djoko sure will do it multiple times. The question is if Nadal, who is returning well also will be able to pressure Novak’s serve.


Wog Boy Says:

Actually, Andy can get 150 points plus bonus from DC and Roger is losing same amounts of points regardless, we are talking about 500 points combined.


FedExpress Says:

i dont care for the No 2 spot

i want fed to play nole in the semis from now on. cant take these final losses anymore


Daniel Says:

Federer has to win it undefeated. If he had lost a match he wouldn’t have a chance. Right bow Fed gets 600 pts and Murray only 200. If Fed wins tomorrow, 400 more and final, 500 more.
Mso winning here umdefeated he gets 1500 to Murray’s 200. He takes 1300 pta difference. On DC Murray can get I think 150-200 pta more as semis points is already computated


Ben Pronin Says:

At this point, I really hope Murray wins DC and gets that magical DC boost going into 2016. He has a total of 2 wins to like 30 losses to the top 5 players in the last 2 years. That’s just not going to cut it if he wants to win slams or reach number 1. If ever Andy is underachieving, here it is. It’s just not a good look for him.


FedExpress Says:

legend wawrinka on skypad

“dont tell me it was out? dont tell me?” hahahah


Daniel Says:

Murray has 8470 + 200 = 8670 + 150 dc = 8820
Federer has 7340 + 1500 = 8840, gets #2 with 20 pts more


elina Says:

I’ll see you there Daniel.

Am guessing you’ll have a beard.


jeez Says:

Hope either Wawrinka/Federer

do a NALBANDIAN

Remember 2005 anyone???

:-)


elina Says:

Roger’s best of needs a sound track.

But who knows, you may be right Ben.

Here are some more great volleys from the GOAT…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-LFXBnKmjA


Wog Boy Says:

Daniel,

Roger is losing 150 plus bouns (there is bonus points in DC at the end), even if they already took those points from him, which I doubt, Andy will overtake him with his bonus points that you didn’t calculate for Andy, so even if Roger wins WTF, Andy will most likely end year as #2 for the first time.


FedExpress Says:

jeez, the only one who can do a nalbandian is djokovic and has to face federer and the finals has to be bo5


Tennisfan Says:

I hope both semifinals are competitive. As for the final- I am 99% sure Novak will get there and then win it.


jeez Says:

@FedExpress

Knew about Bo5,but NALBANDIAN did ruin an otherwise

Unblemished season from Federer in 2005…


Ben Pronin Says:

Elina, first of all that was misleading, you said that was a video of the GOAT but it was just Nadal. Nadal is not the GOAT.

Second of all, not a single one of those volleys was better than the ones Federer hit. Not a single one. I now see why you say Nadal’s ability to hit low volleys is unmatched. He let the ball drop so low on so many of those when he didn’t have to. Instead of hitting a conventional volley, the way Federer would, he let the ball drop so that he could hit a drop or slice volley. Number 2 on that video was a slice in the air from no man’s land. It’s a cool gimmick shot, but it’s not a real volley. You would never teach someone that. In fact, you would teach the opposite. You’re not supposed to slice your volleys, you’re supposed to punch them. That video was mostly Nadal hitting drop volleys. Again, cool gimmick shots, not real volleys. That’s why Nadal isn’t the best volleyer on tour, because he’s not hitting the best volleys. Not only that, but it develops bad habits. You should never drop your wrist on your volleys. But Nadal does it every time.

Enough malarkey already. If you want to say Nadal hits the best gimmick shots in the air on tour, fine. I’ll agree. But don’t ever say he has the best volleys when not a single one of those was conventionally hit.


FedExpress Says:

@tennisfan

99%. wow. considering how played the last two macthes. hats off to ur prediction


jeez Says:

TRIVIA: Nalbandian became the first player to win the cup without previously attaining a Grand Slam or Masters Series title !!

May be Wawrinka/Federer do a half NALBANDIAN if you can call it that

:-)


elina Says:

WB, no DC won’t factor. Roger finishes No. 2 by winning WTF.

Before WTF, in the Race to London, Andy had an 1130 point lead.

With the 200 points in London that brings it to 1330. He can only earn an additional 150 points in DC which would maximize his net lead to 1480.

If Roger wins WTF, he gets 1500 and will beat Andy by 20 points even if Andy wins DC.


elina Says:

Yes Ben fair enough. It would probably put me into moderation.

Will see you and Daniel in Wonderland.

How’s your new beard coming along by the way,


Ben Pronin Says:

Will be shaving tomorrow probably.


Tennisfan Says:

@FedExpress
I know but lately he’s been peaking at the finals so I think it’ll follow that trajectory here as well. Personally I want Roger to win but realistically I don’t see anyone other than Nole winning. Maybe Stan or Rafa will surprise everyone but that’s unlikely imo (for Rafa moreso than Stan.)


Chrisford1 Says:

Pronin – “The ball bounces and goes above each guy’s head. That’s probably why Nadal hasn’t complained since the tournament started, he’s finally happy it’s on clay.”

I laughed at that one! For the last 7-8 years, the one predictable thing, other than Fed or Nole being the favorite, was Rafa pissing and moaning that the event was not on clay, thus “unfair”.
Not this year.
I mean even Madrid was significantly faster than this, with a lower bounce.


FedExpress Says:

jeez, davydenko did a half nalbandian in 2009


elina Says:

Yes ben but shaving the old SABR into your beard doesn’t count.


Wog Boy Says:

elina,

There is 125 bonus points for taking if GB wins DC:

* Team bonus awarded to a singles player who wins seven live matches and his team wins the competition.”

http://www.daviscup.com/en/rankings/atp-ranking-points.aspx

With those points Andy is #2 regardless of Roger’s results, so it is in Andy’s (should say Murray bros) hands:)


Ben Pronin Says:

Elina, I have no idea what you mean.


Wog Boy Says:

Don’t worry about shaving the beard, Stan will do it tomorrow, he’ll shave Mirka too if she only opens her mouth during the points..


Wog Boy Says:

After reading this in the DC rule book I am pretty sure they are yet to deduct Roger 150 points plus any bonus points from last year, so Andy is a safe bet to finsh the year as #2:

“d) Points will be added after every round of ties and deducted at the same stage the following year.”


Wog Boy Says:

Disregard last one, in the race to London that didn’t matter, but previous one stands, 125 bonus points matters.


NK Says:

If Rafa does not win this year, do you think they will try their best to slow down the courts at O2 even more next year? Just wondering.

I truly miss the 80s and the 90s…champions back then were forced to modify their game to win an different surfaces. A true showcasing of skill and guile. Not anymore. Add racket and ball technology to the mix these days,and it is a grinder’s paradise.


Tennis Vagabond Says:

Great semis, and I actually will be home to watch them.

Looking forward to Stan vs Mirka II: The Smirkening


Daniel Says:

elina,

I have a full beard already, for years now;-) Just check my insta (@dcinefilo)


Wog Boy Says:

Daniel,
Are you trying to chat her (elina) up.?


jane Says:

nk, i understand your point, but one could argue that the 90s was just a server’s paradise (minus clay) hence watching could be kind of boring from some perspectives.

i am all for different surface speeds and player’s adjusting to them. but i wouldn’t want to watch those serve battles as much as i don’t want to watch endless grinding.

i don’t think tennis is a grinder’s paradise per se right now. watching the 3 fed/novak slam finals the last couple of years have been pleasurable, not indicative of grinding at all, imo.


Daniel Says:

No Wog Boy, hehe. I behave on insta.


Pauly Says:

Nadal will be exhausted
Djokovic in straight sets
Ferrer drained all the energy out of his best friend
Djokovic vs Federer final likely

Djokovic winner
Capping off his best year ever
Bravo NOLE


skeezer Says:

Shaaaamooon @ 5:39 post. Someone needs to take a tennis lesson on court…specifically the VOLLEY. Play more youtube less.


skeezer Says:

It HAS been a grinders paradise. Thank the tennis Gods Fed has tried to change that, and the courts speed has sped up somewhat.
There is no doubt what Rafa & Noles games are, and “grinders” is it.
Although some may not like serveathons, grinders in a 6 hour match is just as boring. The game needs all kinds of styles to entertain the tennis fans. Otherwise, who needs a 120 x 60 tennis court? You can play the whole court, not just 60 x 20 feet from the baseline. And who plays the whole court the best in todays game? Booyah!


jane Says:

boo, skeezer. i totally disagree that novak is a “grinder”.
but to each their own.
he looks to end points with a winner more often than drawing an error. and since becker’s been on board, but even before, he was changing towards shorter points, working on coming forward. indeed, in their past few finals, it’s fed that’s had to run more than novak.


elina Says:

skeezer, protector of the bearded one, but you are right that Ben could work on his volley. Nailed it!

WB, great observation. I thought DC could only get you 500 points. I didn’t know about the bonus opportunitiy. I wonder if he needs to win more matches. There is a team bonus for 75 points if he wins seven matches and a performance bonus of 125 if he wins eight.


elina Says:

Andy has six singles DC wins so he needs just one more and a GB win to clinch No. 2.


skeezer Says:

elina,
You know that was for you, not Ben.
In denial, again. Nothing new here.
These are not the droids you were looking for. Move on.


skeezer Says:

jane,
Boo? Your favoritism is showing. So is mine. All good ;)
“he looks to end points with a winner more often than drawing an error.”
That doesn’t mean he’s not a grinder. To his credit however, he doesn’t play to wait for errors like you know who.


jane Says:

skeezer, of course our favouritism is showing; we’re not robots!

but, we each watch our faves with a little more of an eagle-eye than we watch the others, so sometimes it’s actually worth listening to the biased ones. sometimes they know what they’re talking ’bout. yeah?

cheers.


J-Kath Says:

If Nole, Rafa, or Stan wins WTF Andy will congratulate the winner by sending a Champion box of Belgian chocolates….Sorri Roger they are better than the Swiss..


Colin Says:

So Andy’s experiment of alternating clay and hard-court practice hasn’t worked out. I only hope it hasn’t screwed up his timing for Davis Cup. No doubt he’ll start favourite against Goffin, but the Belgian is by no means useless, and will have the crowd behind him.

Apart from that, let’s hope Belgian security is more efficient than some think it to be. If I were Andy, I’d try to persuade Kim to stay at home.

As for this FedExpress person, does he not realise the constant “hahaha” stuff makes him seem a complete sniggering idiot?


Margot Says:

Well, that was a bizarre second set. As Andy contemplated not turning up, can any Andy fan be surprised at his performance at the O2 this year? Just hope we blooming do win Davis Cup and Andy never ever plays a DC match again.
Anyway, whatever, Well played Stan


Wog Boy Says:

Margot,
BOLD? No, not you, please.
“Et tu, Brute?”


Margot Says:

@Wog Boy
Just to show I can
But it is shouting and is annoying so pleaaaaase don’t tell Courbon how to do it :)


Daniel Says:

Heresy J-Kath! Swiss chocolate are the best, but belgium biscuit rules. Jules Destrooper chocolate cinnamon are the best biscuit ever. 🍫


Gypsy Gal Says:

Daniel and J-Kath lol you are both making me hungry,We have a little chocolate shop down our high street called Cherry Tree Chocolates, that sells the very best Belgium chocolates which are to die for,and i have to resist temptation everyday walking past it on my way to work….


Daniel Says:

I love chocolate GG, on a diet late but every time I eat chocolate began a frenzy and I can’t stop.


Gypsy Gal Says:

Daniel lol tell me about it,i seem to spend my life on bloody diets,and they all start in the new year,and last about five minutes,the less i eat the fatter i get,there is a certain chemical in chocolate that gives you a high,or so they say?….


Margot Says:

Lock down in Brussels now and rumours Davis Cup may be postponed. Oh the irony. :(


jalep Says:

Oh Margot. I hate listening to the news. Did not know – sorry to hear that.


Colin Says:

Interesting how, in recent years, Belgian chocolate seems to have stolen the prestige reputation from Swiss.

After World War II, when Britain was still living with rationing, my Aunt Edith (whom I never met) who lived in New York, sent us a food parcel, and I was NOT impressed by American chocolate, an impression that was reinforced when I visited the USA (Noo Orlins to be precise) in 1972.

As for Biscuits, I still like best McVitie & Price digestives (US Graham crackers)half covered with dark choolate. Must be dark choc.

GG, I wonder if you ever watched the Mary Tyler Moore show. It was shown in the UK, and I forget the name of the gal who was her friend, and inclined to plumpness. She had a great line once. Glaring at the chocolate in her hand, she sighed, “I might as well apply it directly to my hips.”

The chocolate “high” comes from caffeine, but the weight gain must be triggered by the fatty, sugary foods the choc usually inhabits.


Gypsy Gal Says:

Colin sorry just read your post,used to love that programme actually lol,i like Swiss chocolates too,as a matter of fact i enjoy almost anything sweet,but chocs are my favorite vice,hubby said he loves me no matter what my shape,as i doubt i will ever be slim again so thats good news and just as well….


Colin Says:

GG, you and your hubby should Google “Huggin and Chalkin” lyrics. You’ll love the song by the great Hoagy Carmichael, which is the song of a man with a well-endowed lady.


Gypsy Gal Says:

Colin lol,thanks err i think,and i will do….

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