Bernard Tomic Says Roger Federer’s Level Is No Where Close To Where Novak Djokovic Is At
by Sean Randall | January 23rd, 2016, 9:20 pm
  • 364 Comments

The Aussie have a great future in tennis, but it’s going to be a controversial. Nick Kyrgios is a PR nightmare and Bernard Tomic isn’t much better. The lax-looking Tomic advanced yesterday over John Millman, and then afterward took some shots at Roger Federer.

Earlier in the month, Federer commented that Tomic still has a long way from the Top 10.

Tomic then said Saturday that basically Federer is a long way from Novak Djokovic.

“He has his predictions,” Tomic said. “I think he’s also far away from Djokovic as well if he wants to say that. If he believes I’m very far away from the top 10, I also believe my prediction that he’s nowhere near Novak’s tennis right now.”

Fun, right? Bernard does have a point, literally. Roger is over 8,500 points from Djokovic in the rankings while Tomic is 1,000 from the Top 10. More likely to happen, Federer catching Djokovic or Tomic reaching the Top 10? I’ll go Tomic.

Later today Federer faces David Goffin. Roger’s been good enough so far and Goffin just doesn’t have the weapons I don’t think.

Tomorrow Tomic will have his hands full with Andy Murray.

“He’s cool. We’re always nice to each other,” Tomic said of Murray. “I haven’t spent too much time with him. But apart from when we see each other on tour, he’s super nice to me. I have so much respect for his game, what he’s achieved in his career. It’s going to be an amazing match for me on Monday. I’m going to take it to him, play the tennis I’ve been playing.”

Should Murray father-in-law Nigel Sears check out ok, I don’t see how Tomic wins that.

“I just feel so confident on court. Anyone can beat anyone now. Especially with the tennis I’m playing, I’ll go out there believing I can win and focus on my service games. I know I’ll get some chances on his.”


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364 Comments for Bernard Tomic Says Roger Federer’s Level Is No Where Close To Where Novak Djokovic Is At

Wog Boy Says:

Sean, you are tight, Tomic can’t and shouldn’t beat Andy, but Andy can beat Andy.


jane Says:

andy and stan OWN tomic and raonic respectively. neither bernie nor milos has beaten their next opponent. ever. slams notwithstanding. so i expect andy and stan to come thru. that’s not to say tomic and raonic aren’t good players.


Wog Boy Says:

I think Raonic has more chances of beating Stan than Tomic beating Andy.


jane Says:

me too wog boy. although only minimally, because raonic has been playing really well, and stan has a cold. also they’ve played some close sets when they’ve met, and stan’s lost 1 set to milos, whereas andy and bernard have played only one close set in 3 matches, and andy has yet to lost a set to him. either way, i’d favour stan and andy.


danica Says:

Tomic is right. And Roger, great as he is as a player, should probably keep some things to himself specially if he was not provoked (like Bernie was in this interview). Because, his words can come back to bite him. So, Nole being a “joke”, or Tomic being far from getting to #10… just not classy. Let younger players reach their goals at their own pace and refrain from making snub comments.


Wog Boy Says:

I just noticed what I said “Sean, you are tight,..” I meant to say “Sean, you are right,..” sorry, didn’t come out really nice:(


Humble Rafa Says:

The Arrogant One thinks he can boss around the younger players. He forgets that they have strong will and mature differently. Not everyone was potty trained like His Holiness right out of the womb.


Dave Says:

Predictions Wog Boy? How many sets and winner.


Wog Boy Says:

Ohh no Dave, please, I don’t do Nole’s predictions, I just take Valium and hope I’ll survive until next match:)


Dave Says:

haha. Okay. No problem. I want to see a huge performance by Nole tonight. I want to see him go for it a bit tonight. Let’s see what happens.


jane Says:

gosh darn it!! t.v. is showing doubles over the world’s number 1. arrrrrgh!


Wog Boy Says:

jane, try 7tennis stream, just download app, it’s free.


Daniel Says:

Amazing BH DTL from Djoko inside out.


jane Says:

download!?? all i am downloading right now is white wine… ha ha

go no1eee!


Humble Rafa Says:

Ohh no Dave, please, I don’t do Nole’s predictions, I just take Valium and hope I’ll survive until next match:)

You are fine with the Egg Lover – solid as a rock. Valium was for another guy in another era.


jane Says:

thx guys, i have a feed. i am liking the yellow!

mat4, do you know who cookie monster is?


mat4 Says:

A monster from Sesame street?


jane Says:

yes… so i wanted to share this with you my friend mat4.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5X4N2exOsU&feature=share


mat4 Says:

Thanks, jane. Meanwhile, Novak is struggling big time.


Humble Rafa Says:

Egg Lover’s learned the drop shot from The Boris.


sienna Says:

coocky is blue in europe.


jane Says:

god’s away on business mat4.
let’s hope novak takes care of his.
simon is a wily player.
he’s taken fed to 5 sets here, no?


Tennisfan Says:

Its hard not to take critiques personally so I don’t blame Tomic even though he’s sounding petty here lol. Plus he’s right, Fed is way behind Novak and will never reach him. Doubt he’s ever going to win any significant tournaments either (maybe an odd M1000 sometime)


Wog Boy Says:

Nole has to change something, to flatten his shots or whatever, Simon is luring him into sleepy game.


sienna Says:

I feel mto is comming up. Notice djokerino is not acknowledging the great points Simon is making.

anywayz two guys I couldnot care less about….
im pulling for djokovic on this one. Djoko the hater.


mat4 Says:

Finally a good serve! jane, btw, Simon doesn’t give pace to his opponent, but he, himself, doesn’t like creating his own pace.

Novak’s FH has to start clicking if he wants to win this match. Although I find he played mainly well at the net.


FedExpress Says:

Nole in unbeatable mode hehe


jane Says:

GO NO1E!

yes, we need the forehand, backhand, serve, everything to click.

this is one of my favourite waits’ songs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPPtrqvHGEg


Daniel Says:

3 set points already and he can’t close


mat4 Says:

It’s a beautiful song. I didn’t know you liked Waits. Loving Waits’ music is not a good sign.


Daniel Says:

58 min for a 6-3 set says it all.

Novak needs to serve betteramd smarter to get some free points. Simon is returning even first serves with interest.


FedExpress Says:

Kudo to simon who makes a living without having a proper serve


mat4 Says:

He has a decent serve.


FedExpress Says:

he has a weak serve.


jane Says:

mat4, what am i in for? why is liking waits’ music a bad sign? i’ve seen him in concert you know – so fun!


FedExpress Says:

simon is injured it seems


jane Says:

are we watching the same match fedexpress?
there is absolutely no sign simon is injured??
what?


FedExpress Says:

mentally


FedExpress Says:

was predictable


mat4 Says:

@jane:

Novak is just awful. No patience. No strategy. Usually, it’s the heat, and combined with a match against Simon, it could be very dangerous.

About Waits… Trust me. A German interpretation of one of my favourite songs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwM1Ah23a7g


mat4 Says:

Novak just can’t hit a BH DTL.


FedExpress Says:

i hope they put nishi nole in the afternoon.


Jeez Says:

SLEEPY HOLLOW

35 UE from Djokovic

5th BP !!

wasted

UE again???


mat4 Says:

I just can’t watch this awful match…


Jeez Says:

6th wasted

MIRACLE

ACE @ 144kph Adv

GAME

5-4 Simon !!


Jeez Says:

Can Simon take 1st SET of Djokovic in his career?


jane Says:

oh goodness
you people forget
simon is an incredibly tough player
do you not remember when he took fed to 5 sets?
here?!!
it was in 2011…


FedExpress Says:

nole should play like this more often. in fact the opponents should take advantage and not choke


FedExpress Says:

has simon a 1st serve? its more like a replicita of the 2nd one


FedExpress Says:

noles subpar tennis hasnt been punished. its about time. once his aura is gone nole is a done case


Jeez Says:

0/11 BP conversion Djokovic this

SET!!!


mat4 Says:

But he does play this way most of the time, especially against Fed. Who always chokes.


FedExpress Says:

best returner oat vs worst server. and still cant break. no1 folks


jane Says:

mat4, please don’t sign off. i really don’t wanna read only novak haters, lol. :)

let’s hope he focuses better from here on.

GO NO1EE!


FedExpress Says:

yep jane. i agree on that. fed has too soft balls when he plays nole in crunch matches.


tennisfansince76 Says:

Simon is like a rhythm vampire. Serving is about the only thing he is doing well today


FedExpress Says:

mat4 i meant


Jeez Says:

I get it now ..

Djokovic is trying to break Federer’s BP(NON)CONVERTION record

presumebly 4/24 US15…:-)

But still proving he could win !!!!


FedExpress Says:

wtf is berdych doing

triple bp down. RBA in the qf would be epic


Jeez Says:

WINNER from Simon takes him

3-0 in tie break??


Jeez Says:

WINNER from Simon takes him

3-0 in tie break??

4-0


tennisfansince76 Says:

Drop shot totally off today.


jane Says:

“Simon is like a rhythm vampire”

yes… this.


Jeez Says:

2nd SET

SIMON!!


FedExpress Says:

hahahhahahaha. pre egg nole. external factors beating the weak era champ

got owned in that TB


tennisfansince76 Says:

@mat4 how could it be heat? It is only 70 degrees.


Okiegal Says:

Simon……playing deliberate and very patient….
Second set to the Frenchman….Novak looks more tired than Simon..


tennisfansince76 Says:

For anybody but an Eskimo that is quite temperate.


mat4 Says:

jane:

Simon also doesn’t like off rhythm play. Novak also should play more CC FH, and I don’t understand what he’s really doing.

Let’s hope he has lost his first… and last set of the tournament. He should play in the evening session in the next round, and then the semi and the final in the evening too.


AndyMira Says:

Thank god..novak is human after all!C’mon simon..novak must eat all of his fruit thing to get his mojo back..


mat4 Says:

Although, 26, 27 degrees shouldn’t be that much.


tennisfansince76 Says:

@mat4 Federer could only dream that Novak play this level in the Wimbledon final.


mat4 Says:

TF76:

I don’t understand Fahrenheit.


Travis Bickle Says:

Simon’s game is effortless. He can play like this 5-6 hours easy.
The thing is, Novak SHOULD have enough quality to not be caught in Simon’s web of endless rallying.
The strategy is to be more aggressive and hit harder, and go to the net more…


jane Says:

GO NO1EEE!


tennisfansince76 Says:

Don’t worry mat4. Novak doesn’t look good today but Simon is not a closer.


Goran Says:

Simon is done…haha


mat4 Says:

TF76:

Don’t pay attention to my off-pace war of attrition against Fedexpress. There are a lot of low jabs.


mat4 Says:

@Jeez:

I read the original interview, and that’s not what he really said.


tennisfansince76 Says:

@mat4 the conversion is 5(F-32)/9 so 21 degrees Celsius


FedExpress Says:

simon needs a proper serve. u cant serve 130 km/h and expect not to be broken at some point


tennisfansince76 Says:

Perhaps Federer should adopt the Simon style of play when playing Djokovic.


Jeez Says:

0-40

3 BP for Simon

taken

3-2 Djokovic !!!


mat4 Says:

Mercer said it was 27 degrees Celsius. Thank you for the formula, I can apply it easily.

Meanwhile, Novak lost his serve…

Here’s what Gilles said:

“Dimanche, quasiment tout le monde dans le vestiaire sera derrière moi, et ce n’est pas méchant envers Novak de dire ça. Avec Rafa c’était un peu pareil, à un moment donné les mecs étaient breakés d’entrée et ils ne jouaient même plus. C’était n’importe quoi ! Mais au bout d’un moment les adversaires se remettent à jouer, c’est ce qui va se passer avec Novak. Après, aujourd’hui, il joue encore mieux que Roger et Rafa à leur époque.”


Jeez Says:

0-40

3 BP for Simon

taken

2-3 Simon to serve !!


FedExpress Says:

nole in decline


Jeez Says:

3/21 on course !!!

He he


jane Says:

mat4, it’s been a lot this week for novak mentally, to douse his concentration: name thing, match fixing accusation, cut out of hewitt video, sent to MCA … maybe he’s thrown off in terms of concentration? am not sure. i suppose it could be the heat but i doubt it. also let’s remember how tough simon is. he’s not an easy out. he’s a grinder, a counter puncher. so we’ll see. it could go either way is what i feel. novak might go out here, tonight. i was concerned about this match all along, even though my friends said i was crazy. but sometimes it’s just a hunch. hopefully he finds a deeper gear, but i don’t know.


Jeez Says:

This match is very similar to last yr FO semifinal btw Wawrinka & Tsonga in hot humid conditions making it difficult for STAN.

But he TOUGHED it out

which is what is expected of

Djokovic!!!


mat4 Says:

I have the impression that Novak’s streak of 26 QF is going to finish now…


Wog Boy Says:

Simon is having upper hands here, if Nole manages get out of this match it will be miracle, he just looks deflated mostly mentally and his feet are not moving fast to bring him in position for the shots.


AndyMira Says:

Glad simon still not lose focus..maybe he takes the challenge in the locker room very seriously..


tennisfansince76 Says:

I heard this week Nole lost a little blood. Federer kindly offered some of his. Unfortunately for Nole Fed’s blood type is BP negative.


AndyMira Says:

Oh no..novak start showing his fist back!And there is not a good sign for simon..


Jeez Says:

If 3rd SET goes to tiebreak then Djokovic is in real spot of. bother!!


tennisfansince76 Says:

@mat4 don’t worry. Like I said Simon is not a closer.


Jeez Says:

SET point for

2-1 lead


tennisfansince76 Says:

I can’t believe Simon can run so much on those spindly legs.


Wog Boy Says:

Becker is f..ing fired up:)


Jeez Says:

FINALLY!!

2-1


Wog Boy Says:

Still long way to go, particulary since Nole is just not playing well.


mat4 Says:

@WB:

Are you doing the same thing I do?

Yes, he really plays awfully, and the result is still unclear, the match undecided.


Goran Says:

Hajde Nole!!!


jane Says:

long way indeed – love 30 right away – but nice to see novak and boris with some spunk at the end of that set. god knows they have reason to be fired up. c’mon novak – INAT


Wog Boy Says:

I don’t know what are you doing but I all over the house, just not infront of the TV..


Jeez Says:

2BP for Simon

What if Djokovic wins this in 5 or even 4,

Still Nishikori is there in the Quaters !!!


jane Says:

wog boy … me too! gah… if things don’t turn around i may have to start vacuuming and put the wine away. which would be really sad.

c’mon nole. BOSS!


mat4 Says:

The moment Gilles starts going for his shots… he loses the point.


jane Says:

he’s a reactor; he’s not a creator, mat4.


Jeez Says:

2nd BP for

Simon


mat4 Says:

He’s a destructor…


mat4 Says:

Finally! 2-1


AndyMira Says:

Someone!where’s my fruit?Pleeaasee..


AndyMira Says:

Someone!where’s my fruit?Pleeaasee..


Goran Says:

Need a Banana, AndyMira?


Wog Boy Says:

This the worst I have seen Nole playing for a long long time, and let’s not pretend, they got to him with all that stuff.


jane Says:

yeah goran, i think andymira needs a banana, ha. ;)

wog boy, sigh…. it’s been a crappy week. let’s hope he comes through.


mat4 Says:

WB:

What was that MCA thing? I came back yesterday evening, so I am not aware of it.


Wog Boy Says:

What MCA thing mat4.


mat4 Says:

jane, you mentioned it: “sent to MCA”. What does it mean?


Dave Says:

I’m actually quite suprised as well Wogboy. Stuff is getting to him for sure. He is such a fighter though. I can’t believe how hard he fights.


Wog Boy Says:

He played his Seppi match on MCA.


jane Says:

oh, it’s probably nothing, mat4.
novak played on margaret court arena last match, which was the first time since 2007. both novak and murray, number 1 and number 2, played on MCA last round.
sigh… very tough match.


mat4 Says:

MCA is “Margaret Court Arena”? I get it now.


Wog Boy Says:

Dave,
I could feel that in his every interview after every match, he wasn that relaxed jovial Nole, but tense and uncomfortable, trying to finish them and go to locker room. Even if he wins I don’t have high hopes for this AO.


jane Says:

same wog boy… exactly. : /


jane Says:

simon has now covered over 5 KILOMETERS in this match…


Dave Says:

The only thing that I felt a bit worried about was when he said that he felt the pressure. I didn’t sense the confidence at all.


mat4 Says:

Break… Painful to watch.


jane Says:

yes, well. that’s it then.
i guess novak’s had his fill.
fair enough.
fed vs murray or stan in the final?


Okiegal Says:

The crowd is loving this match! It has been a
“barn burner”!


Okiegal Says:

What is Novak doing with that drop shot….it ain’t working!


Wog Boy Says:

Everything he does is wrong and Simon senses his chance, he plays better.


Okiegal Says:

And again………


Okiegal Says:

Where has Simon been all my life??


Wog Boy Says:

Absolutely no confidence in his shots and trying to bailout with drop shots.


Tennisfan Says:

I still don’t think Novak will lose this. He’s got a set to hopefully turn it around.


kjb Says:

@Okiegal

It’s crazy!! He hasn’t won a single point with it and lost at least 12.


Okiegal Says:

Don’t worry Wog…..Novak will pull it out……


Dave Says:

Who played has already played a 5 set match? doesn’t seem like Simon. He seems more fresh than Nole.


Wog Boy Says:

I think Nole is on his way to join Rafa fishing.


danica Says:

From now on – Novak forbidden to use drop shop.
I mean, is he in his right mind?!?

Great job from Simon though. And people saying Novak is a blackboard. Look at Giles. Wow!

If Nole somehow manages to win this, he will be steamed by any of Nishi, Roger, Andy, Wawa, Berdych…


mat4 Says:

@jane:

So far, Andy has played the best tennis, and he’s the favourite against Fed, but Novak hasn’t lost yet.


mat4 Says:

Although he will… soon.


mat4 Says:

Seems that Gilles sensed his chance… and it can be very dangerous… for him.


Travis Bickle Says:

Simon reminds me of a boxer with an “iron chin”. You hit him in the head for 10 rounds and in 11th round he touches you and you fall down knocked out, not from his power but from exhaustion…


Wog Boy Says:

87UE!


Okiegal Says:

@kjb…… Looks like he is just tired when he tries it….. just wants to end the point…


AndyMira Says:

Goran and jane..ha!ha!bananananaa!nish,roger,andy,wawarinka..will thank simon for dragging novak to 4 or 5 hours?


Okiegal Says:

@Wog 2:57……Good one!! I laughed at loud!!!


danica Says:

I will be relieved when Nole loses this. The pressure of getting to finals and winning calendar or Nole slams must be terrible.

It seems like he is not happy with his strings.


courbon Says:

Ok, Novak is going home…this is very bad tennis from Nole.


Okiegal Says:

I need to go to bed but this match is so exciting!


courbon Says:

Goodnight Okie


Okiegal Says:

Easy game for Nole!


danica Says:

On the other hand, I hope this is somewhat of a Anderson match in Wimbledon.


Travis Bickle Says:

danica,
I’ll be happy only when Novak wins the final, nothing less would do…


danica Says:

Sweet dreams Okie ;).


mat4 Says:

@Travis:

That’s the spirit! I am with you on this. And I believe that he will find the strength and mental composure to do it.


danica Says:

Travis B,
With this game, Nole ain’t winning anything.


Okiegal Says:

@courbon….Hi to you…long time no see! Good night!


danica Says:

91 UE. Tied now with Verdasco.


Goran Says:

Andy Mira, we already know you need a banana. What’s new? :)


skeezer Says:

Don’t know all the insecurities here wth Nole fans. ….he will win.


Travis Bickle Says:

Anyone knows what is the world record in UFEs in an ATP match?
Are we close to breaking it tonight?


AndyMira Says:

Are we on the way to witness the biggest upset in history?


jane Says:

sigh…novak is done danica, travis, wog boy and mat4 … also courbon if you’re still here…. his heart isn’t in it. seems clear to me.


Okiegal Says:

They’re talking about things cooling down in Melbourn what does that do to a tennis match??


Wog Boy Says:

Just no confidence in his shots, he is missing by big margin and Simon is just playing his game knowing that Nole will pull the trigger and most likely net it or going wide.


AndyMira Says:

Goran..why are you so obsessed with banana?One would think you never eat it..shisshh..


Okiegal Says:

@Jane….Not to worry…he is gonna break here..


Travis Bickle Says:

Broke him from 40-0!!! Wow


Wog Boy Says:

Okie,
Slows the ball even more, which suits Simon.


courbon Says:

Yes,Yes,yes yes yes….dont s***w up now !


Okiegal Says:

Novak has it in the bag now….


Goran Says:

you are obsessed with fruits here…a banana fits to you and your comments


Okiegal Says:

@Wog…thanks!


tennisfansince76 Says:

@okiegal it slows the ball and makes it harder to hit thru the court and make winners


Goran Says:

Guys, remember AO 2013!


Okiegal Says:

@Skeezer….one of his fans said he would be fishing with Rafa. lol


Okiegal Says:

Oh, ye of little faith!!


Okiegal Says:

@tennisfansince76……Thank you!


J-Kath Says:

C’mon guys, it’s not over…I doubt Simon can win against Nole.


courbon Says:

Sorry Oki, but I think Rafa will have to fish alone little bit longer..


AndyMira Says:

Why are you so uptight goran..your man is winning here..chill out man..


Okiegal Says:

@Danica….I am still bright eyed and bushy-tailed atm!


jane Says:

if he wins, it feels pyrrhic to me.


Goran Says:

I am chill…you are the desperate one


Okiegal Says:

@courbon…..I think he will too!


Wog Boy Says:

courbon,
Not over yet.


Okiegal Says:

Nole nervous in this last game…I would be too!


Travis Bickle Says:

why pyrrhic, jane?


Wog Boy Says:

jane,
My feelings too.


Dave Says:

It’s not over until the last point.


mat4 Says:

In tennis, pyrrhic doesn’t matter.


courbon Says:

why, why and why?


Okiegal Says:

I said he was nervous…….Win lose or draw, I will have to hand to the Frenchman tonight….he took it to him!!


tennisfansince76 Says:

If either of these players had a good break point conversion rate they would be in the locker room by now


Okiegal Says:

The German girl is giving Aggie problems too! She took the first set.


AndyMira Says:

I am not desperate..like WB said,my man is fishing or golfing or swimming with xisca now..


tennisfansince76 Says:

Novak actually looks much better than he did earlier in the match.


Travis Bickle Says:

good challenge, giles!


Okiegal Says:

MATCH POINT!!!!!


jane Says:

simon is wily
but i don’t think this was mostly about him
it goes deeper than that imo
who knows?
just an interpretation
but to answer taxi driver and mat4
“i don’t know?”
just feels pyrrhic


Okiegal Says:

OOPS!


Travis Bickle Says:

THIS WILL BE IT !!!!!!!


Travis Bickle Says:

I was wrong :-(


Okiegal Says:

100 ue for Novak….Unheard of..


Travis Bickle Says:

Simon is feeling it in his legs…
One wonders why he does this to himself – he’s got no chance winning this tournament…


Okiegal Says:

@TB///We cant be right all the time….


Travis Bickle Says:

As long as it’s under 5 hours, Novak is OK with 60 hours recovery time…
no worries :-)


Okiegal Says:

How sweet at the net!! Giles had a nice smile..


mat4 Says:

100 UE, 27 QF… more and more records for Novak…


courbon Says:

That was painfull match….
Mat4, you can go behind sofa now.He won!


Okiegal Says:

Congratulations to all of Novak fans. One fan in the crowd said no more drop shots…..


mat4 Says:

I am ON the sofa, you silly!

I feel that this match made Novak decompress, and that he will play much better from now on.


Dave Says:

60 hours recovery time?


Travis Bickle Says:

Agree with mat4.
Decompression match. The same as the 4th round at last year Wimbledon. We know what happened after that.
Or, the same 4th round in AO 2013 – tight and long 5 setter and after that cruising all the way!


Jeez Says:

Now how much does this match have anything (if at all)to say

against Nishikori awating in the Quaters??


Wog Boy Says:

Travis Bickle and courbon,

If I hear you only one more time calling Nole’s win before it is done I coming over to give you one behind the ear, to both of you.. I’m having heart attack here and you calling it’s over, not good…


Travis Bickle Says:

@Dave,
OK, more like 50 hours.


Okiegal Says:

Merry tennis to all and to all a good night!!!


courbon Says:

Mat4, hope you are right-but Nishikori is bad match up for Novak.But lets be positive.It is not first time that happened with Novak-bad 4th round in GS and then marches on after that…


Travis Bickle Says:

You’ve got to have more faith, Wog Boy :-)


courbon Says:

Wog Boy-Is Travis not me..I only mentioned fishing…


courbon Says:

Thanks Oki


Dave Says:

Nope. Less than that. The match ended at 7:30pm Melbourne time. One of the QF matches is scheduled for the day. And one for the night. We don’t know if they will give Nole the night slow or not. And aren’t night matches starting at 7pm? that would give Nole between 40 and 48 hours rest time.


Dave Says:

Now if he gets to the final he will get that much needed extra day of rest since they would play the semi-finals on Thursday.


jane Says:

100 errors? Faints

novak taking advice from the crowd, lol…


mat4 Says:

I have watched all the matches Novak has played against Gilles. I like Gilou (we share the same opinion about women tennis;-), and he has always been a tough nut to crack for Novak. He has an excellent defensive flat backhand, and he forces Novak to create his own pace. They have played many roller-coasters, but usually Novak managed to win sets. Their last match, in Paris, saw an unusual number of breaks, but quite normal for their encounters.

So, I felt beforehand that it could be a difficult match, but Novak played a bit under his usual level, and it got complicated.

In the fifth set, things got normal again.

I expect Novak to find his range now, the way he did in London and New York.


mat4 Says:

@jane:

Worse: 100 UE, and 42 FE.


AndyMira Says:

Hey Okie..how can i say goodnight when it’s only 5pm here in my country?


Dave Says:

I didn’t realize there is still one match to be played before the Federer match. Federer is going to be playing pretty late into the night. Will be a late finish. Past midnight finish for sure. I gotta go to bed. It’s 2 am.


Jeez Says:

Novak Djokovic STATS Gilles Simon
9 Aces 2
1 Double faults 4
110/177 (62 %)1st serves in 126/192 (66 %)
77/110 (70 %)1st serve pts won 87/126(69%)
37/67 (55 %)2nd serve points won24/66 (36 %)
201 KMH Fastest serve 195 KMH
184 KMH Avg 1st serve speed 158 KMH
153 KMH Avg 2nd serve speed 132 KMH
32/47 (68 %) Net points won 11/18 (61 %)
6/25 (24 %) Break points won 4/18 (22 %)
81/192 (42 %) Receiving pts won 63/177 (36 %)
62 Winners 32
100 Unforced errors 68
195 Total points won 174
5631.2 Distance Covered (M) 6496.3
15.3 Dist. Covered/Pt. (M) 17.6


Travis Bickle Says:

Dave,
I believe Novak-Kei will be a night match, since this round they played day matches. Goffin-Berdych should be a day match since they had night this round,
That is how they usually do it at majors to be fair to all high seeds. Thus, I expect Novak match to start in about 50 hours from now…
More than enough recovery time, especially since it was not hot weather today so he is less dehydrated than he would have been at 100 F…


jac Says:

I’ve seen far too many tournaments, where Nole played like this, to worry about his game in next matches. It’s better like this than winning all matches 3:0 and losing in final. Only Stan looked solid so far in tournament. Roger and Andy did play as bad in their 3rd round, just they guy on the other side of the net that was giving free points, Novak didn’t. Still from QF we will have new tournament. With 2 days between matches, players like Novak could play 5 sets every round probably so i doubt he will be physically weak in QF.


mat4 Says:

@Courbon:

I believe that Kei is not a danger if Novak plays his usual game. Recently, most of the top players changed their patterns against Kei, avoiding to open angles, and attacked better his serve.

So, IMO, everything depends on Novak’s game.


Wog Boy Says:

Travis Bickle,
I have faith in Nole but not in that f..ing ball, kep going into net or wide on purpose, like it was under control of evil forces (Giles, Sienna, fedex …)

courbon,
Don’t try to get out of it, you were the first and then Travis Bickle..


mat4 Says:

“Goffin-Berdych should be a day match…”

Travis, Travis, tststs…


Jeez Says:

@Travis Bickle

What

“Goffin-Berdych should be a day match since they had night this round” ???

Has Federer lost(even before Suarez Navarro C.- Gavrilova D.) ???


mat4 Says:

BTW, Courbon and WB, let’s not forget to congratulate you for your team winning the European championship.

I already congratulated some Montenegrin friends, but they weren’t too happy, although their team played great and lost with honours. They couldn’t do better…


jane Says:

mat4 i was wary of simon too. novak got seppi, who took out fed here last year, and simon, who took fed to 5 sets here in 2011, back to back on two different courts at two different times of day. there was adjusting involved for sure.


mat4 Says:

On the other side, Seppi and Simon represent a good preparation for the following matches: a lot of rallies, tough defence, and they help one find his shots.

The worst players to play in the first rounds are big servers, like Mueller, Isner, Raonic, or players who like to shorten points, like Verdasco and Gulbis. When they’re on, they are really dangerous, and you can’t really practice against them.


Wog Boy Says:

Don’t blame Travis, it is too early in NY, the man is confused.

Jane,
If you are still around, the only reason I was posting during the match (I don’t do that) was you, when you said you are staying by yourself surrounded by those couple haters, I just couldn’t leave you alone, I brought Calvary with me:)


Wog Boy Says:

mat4,
Thanks, couldn’t see the match here but checked it on YouTube, Olympic Games is the only medal they are missing.


madmax Says:

TOMIC:

“My ranking has to get there. I’m going to work every day this year getting to the top 10.

“It’s not just getting to the top 10 … It’s about staying there for a while. It’s about being consistent.”

IN RESPONSE TO FED’S COMMENT:

“The year is not just one month long or one week long. It’s 52 weeks. It’s every day. That (is what) he’s been struggling to show, to be quite honest,” world number three Federer told reporters in Brisbane.

So, Bernard. You ARE taking Fed’s advice.

What an upstart!

’tis a shame. These fiery wannabes.

He said Fed is nowhere near Novak and he would be correct. Novak is apart from the rest of the field, but it is the way he said it, not with sage or maturity but with sourness and bitterness. That’s the difference.


jane Says:

thanks wog boy!! :) glad we were here.


Wog Boy Says:

If it is too late for Roger’s match they can always move him to Hisense or MCA, no?
They can start now in MCA or in a few minutes in Hisense Arena, Aga is just about to finish.


mat4 Says:

I’ll root for Goffin, of course, but it would be a pity if Roger doesn’t make the semi: it’s time for Novak to take the lead in the h2H…


FedExpress Says:

wrong result for tennis. simon and RBA lost


jac Says:

Not sure if Aga is about to finish, it’s women’s tennis – you never know :P


Wog Boy Says:

Wrong result for Nole and Berdych haters, nothing to do with tennis, tennis is better of with both of them winning. Go and spew your bitterness in toilet, that is where you should be…and don’t piss on the toilet seat, your mummy will bash you up.


Wog Boy Says:

Mac,
Yeah, just saw it too:)


Wog Boy Says:

^^ it is jac and not Mac.


Wog Boy Says:

This “Aussie” Gavrilova that got her citizenship two months ago is smashing Suarez Navarro, what is she on?


Sarah Says:

Hi 2 all,

Wow…I did not expect such a match today
I can finally eat something…

Wish U all a great day, evening or good night!


jac Says:

Ouch, looks like Anna won’t be able to finish game with Aga.


Wog Boy Says:

And she bageled Suarez Navarro!


FedExpress Says:

Haha. Top ten player navvaro is


Giles Says:

Such classy comments from the poster down undr, NOT! Is that how your mommy taught you to speak? Pfffft!


Wog Boy Says:

I just hope Suarez Navarro can still second set, so the match goes for another hour or so:)


jac Says:

It’s women’s tennis – it may as well end 6:1 for Carla now. It’s something you can’t understand.


Wog Boy Says:

jac,
The longer it takes the better:)


jac Says:

Reading your comments – What if Novak played 5 sets to make Roger stay up longer ?:D


Wog Boy Says:

Vamos Navarro!


courbon Says:

Mat 4-Thanx.Our waterpolo team is really good.
I have not match many Nishikori matches for at least year so your analysys is very welcome-and positive!

madmax: Tomic giving opinion on Feds level of play is like Justin Biber commenting on professor Hawkings string theory…laughable.


danica Says:

Mat4,
I am offended :). Where are congrats to me for another Euro gold? ;)

WB,
What do you mean they don’t have Olympic medal?
Check the impressive results:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbia_men%27s_national_water_polo_team

“They are one of the world’s best teams in the history of water polo, having won 11 Olympic, 10 World Championship, 20 European Championship, 10 FINA World League, 9 FINA World Cup, and 11 Mediterranean Games medals.

They are the best of all national sports teams of Serbia, having won more titles than any other team in Serbia’s history.”


Wog Boy Says:

I wish you are right, but no, Nole played his worst match in a long long time, and credit to Simon too.


Wog Boy Says:

I meant this team doesn’t have gold medal, that is what they are after now. Came on Danica, you know I am a Wog and don’t express myself always accurately, particularly after Nole’s five set match :)


Wog Boy Says:

VAMOS NAVARRO


FedExpress Says:

Nole will play lights out now. And on night nishi has no chance.


danica Says:

Hahaha WB ;), you are forgiven ;).
I am barely alive after this match. My husband jinxed it :). The match started around 8 pm here and he asked me how many sets could they play (he is one of those rare males who couldn’t care about sports). After I said it could go to five, he was like: “Oh, they’ll play till 01.00 am!” :)


FedExpress Says:

australian tennis players are mentally so weak.


J-Kath Says:

Well guys (and includes the ladies) many congratulations Nole did stick it out…it’s what champions do.

It’s all getting exciting: Andy and his family uncertainties; Nole…will he be tired? Kei is he well? Roger..he may be tired depending on whether he can win in 3; Stan..can he peak?

Maybe it’s about who wants it the most….


Wog Boy Says:

Now I really don’t care who is going to win…as long as they go to 6:6 in the third..


madmax Says:

FedExpress, you can’t say that about Hewitt. You just can’t.


Wog Boy Says:

JK,
Thanks:)
Second week.. here we come here we come..


madmax Says:

By all means say they haven’t got any class, but plenty of immaturity, but no. You can’t say that Hewitt was mentally weak.


FedExpress Says:

what a joke dana is. can put a simple overhead away.
this girl is hyped too much


FedExpress Says:

lead with a break vs an injured player, has Bp to go up a double break and now all square


FedExpress Says:

dana abusing her coach? well it is common in australia


Wog Boy Says:

Well, it doesn’t look like it is going to be 6:6 in the third, pity..


FedExpress Says:

what a joke that match was


Wog Boy Says:

Just glad for Navarro, Dasha is too hysterical for my liking.


danica Says:

Navarro wins! YAY!
Happy to see Gavrilova out.


danica Says:

Exactly WB!


FedExpress Says:

BH winner


FedExpress Says:

FH winner


FedExpress Says:

proper tennis on show


FedExpress Says:

break fed


FedExpress Says:

wow


jalep Says:

Isn’t there any Novak fans here that might see the positive side of him not winning this AO?

Sure, it’s nice if he wins AO, but if he doesn’t, it takes pressure off a dumb Calendar Slam during FO. Possibly, increasing that chance. That’s my thought about it.

Now I run for cover.


FedExpress Says:

that BH

feds groundstrokes very good this evening


FedExpress Says:

first set fed


FedExpress Says:

stop it


FedExpress Says:

just beautiful


FedExpress Says:

hahhahaha joke


Tennisfan Says:

Great play by Fed!


FedExpress Says:

what a masterclass


FedExpress Says:

fed is the 2nd best player since Wimbledon last year not murray. 2 Gs finals and one QF


Daniel Says:

Federer in supreme form today. Very quick match and not the tourney really begins for him: Berdy than Djoko.

Even with today’s 5 set it was just bad day at the office for Djoko, now as usual he will uphill level in later rounds.

How many consecutive Quarters it is for Djoko now in Slams?


Daniel Says:

Fed is gonna win under 1 and a half h, just what he needed to do, get out as fast as possible. Even with late start don’t think this match will cause him any trouble.

Novak has to be focus on beating Kei, last thing he wants is another 5 set in Quarters pre semis and finals.


Daniel Says:

And in total more than 30 right jac?


Tennisfan Says:

And Fed is through! :). Awesome play by him today!


jac Says:

Also, If he makes it to the semifinal it will be 22nd out of 23 GS. Which is insane. If not that lose to Stan, he’d have matched Federer’s steak. Which shows how insenly good those 2 are. As for QF, Roger has 36.


Daniel Says:

Great win by Fed, lost only one set to Dimi.

Kei also ist 1,Djoko 2 today and Berdy 3 so far, so still think Fed is in better form than Berdych.

Also think Djoko will up his level and be ready for Kei, which also is a dangerous match if Kei comes out to play.


FedExpress Says:

bravo. now destroy birdhit


jac Says:

35 QF in total, unless i missed something.


Okiegal Says:

@AndyMira……OK…merry tennis to all and to all a good morning, good afternoon and good night….that should cover it! lol

@Courbon……u r welcome!! Novak had his fans puckered up…..but I was sure he would prevail in the end. He had a bad night….thanks to the Frenchman. He played so good. It was a fun exciting match!


madmax Says:

Regarding stats for quarter finals, semi finals, finals, including both Novak and Roger, with reference to Murray and Nadal too.

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/07/novak-djokovic-consecutive-grand-slam-quarterfinals-list-number-wimbledon


Ben Pronin Says:

Crazy tournament so far.

Lots of question marks remain for the top guys, imo. Murray’s played pretty well but he’s had an easy draw. That’s not subject to change as I don’t see Tomic troubling him. Wawrinka has had a decent draw, too, but I think Raonic has a real chance despite never beating him before. Federer’s taken care of business but that’s not unusual, the question is if he can maintain this form should he play Djokovic. And good old Djokovic doing his usual “play like shit and give his fans a heart attack” in the middle of the tournament shtick. History says he raises his level after these kinds of matches but Nishikori has to like his chances.


Django Says:

Jeez Novak,,at least the crowd was ok.
Where’s komsija? Did Cilici lose?


Gypsy Gal Says:

Django yes Cilic lost in straight sets to RBA….


jane Says:

thanks madmax; that’s an old one, though. it’s now 27 for novak.


mat4 Says:

“jalep Says:

Isn’t there any Novak fans here that might see the positive side of him not winning this AO?

Sure, it’s nice if he wins AO, but if he doesn’t, it takes pressure off a dumb Calendar Slam during FO. Possibly, increasing that chance. That’s my thought about it.

Now I run for cover.”

============================================

J., you’re quite right. In sport, losing is very positive, and, although sportsmen hide it from the common folks, they don’t even try to win, they just fake it. Novak tried his best to lose — he even made 100 UE, but, somehow, Gilou was better at it yesterday. It’s true that he knows his trade, losing, I mean, my dear Giles.

So, not to win the AO would be very positive, and then, why bother to win the FO — losing in Paris, that’s the absolute peak of our favourite sport — just ask Fed, and now Novak. Sometimes, they both cry of happiness, no doubts about it, during the closing ceremony.

And you’re quite right about pressure too — when you lose, there’s really no pressure to win. Pressure is not good for the cardiovascular system. Especially blood pressure.

As a gentleman — noblesse oblige — I hope that my fav can relieve all the other players of the pressure of winning, and make their life fulfilled and much happier.


mat4 Says:

jalep, jalep, tststs…

;-)


jane Says:

in fact, i actually think it would have the reverse effect: it would increase the pressure for him to win at the french, but that’s just my opinion, and probably he will lose based on last evening’s performance, so it will be irrelevant anyhow.


jalep Says:

Well, we disagree; that’s not new.

He lost FO and went on to win Wimbles and US Open.
He’s stronger mentally than ever – stronger than in 2014, imo. I doubt he loses AO. Just saying – not the end of the world and it could be a blessing in disguise.

There wasn’t a moment in the match that I didn’t trust Nole would win v Gilou. And Tsonga had a MTO for back issues. Kei’s win over Jo is bigged up.


Wog Boy Says:

I know where jalep is coming from and I agree, I said the same thing in 2011 after he won his first Wimledon, things are happening for the reason, I was sure if wong FO he wouldn’t have won Wimbledon, and at that stage of his career you would rather have Wimbledon than FO, no offense to FO.

Agree about Nishikori too, haven’t seen last night match but saw previous one when he dropped the set, but still if Nole is hove bigger lapses Nishikori will take his chances and beat him.


jane Says:

jalep, to me, he’ll have pressure at the french no matter whether he wins or loses here. kind of like when fed was trying so hard to win it. but i suspect he wouldn’t want to go the year slam-less, so the way i was thinking, is that if he loses here, it just adds pressure at each slam thereafter. at least last year after losing the french he still had the AO victory nonetheless. just a thought…

i saw only bits of kei and jo, but i was in a restaurant and very distracted by my arugula salad and white wine. ;) kei just looked scary good to me though.


mat4 Says:

Just like jane, I believe that the AO result is quite irrelevant for the FO pressure wise. And I have watched Borg win a few times both RG and WB, so I don’t buy this mental thingy. He’s 28, he’s a pro’s pro, and with his ambitions, I even believe that he will be more confident if he wins here.

And then, although I don’t believe he can win the calendar slam… why not a Novak slam? He has a good chance to do it. It would change his complete legacy. Why not?


Wog Boy Says:

As usual, uou just want to be against me..and jalep..

BTW,
Check this video, it is happening again on 6/7th February, that is old trailer, for last year, it is big event in the heart of Sydney, and proud daddy I am, my youngest one is somwhere in that video, she is in organizing committee, and she loves it:

http://youtu.be/aF8h7ox4cSc


jane Says:

very sweet wog boy, but only if the women gets drinks too and the men help fold the laundry. ;)


mat4 Says:

@WB:

The clip is very nice.

@jane:

Don’t you worry about drinks…


Wog Boy Says:

jane,
Women do get a drink, not just one, and usually they are in charge, if you check from 3:10, that is the bar, the women are there too and that’s where you can find me all day along, I have bad back, can’t walk around too much ;)


mat4 Says:

BTW, I am not against jalep and you. There are simply no rules: you won’t be more relaxed in Paris if you lose in Melbourne, or more stressed if you win. You won’t lose there if you win here, or the contrary. As nolefans, we should root for him to win everything. I like when things are dull, expected, without suspense. I would like him to play an injured Nishikori, to beat Berdych in the semi and Ferrer in the final. A victory is a victory. And it’s always better now than never.


Wog Boy Says:

mat4,
Haven’t you seen dots at the end of my post..


Wog Boy Says:

Mat4,

And this is from year before, even the rain couldn’t stop us, I know you’re on diet, that’s why I am sending you this vide (pigs on the spit, cevapi, raznjici, vesalice..);)

http://youtu.be/SzAhAMYalvk


MMT Says:

“danica Says: Tomic is right. And Roger, great as he is as a player, should probably keep some things to himself specially if he was not provoked (like Bernie was in this interview). Because, his words can come back to bite him. So, Nole being a “joke”, or Tomic being far from getting to #10… just not classy. Let younger players reach their goals at their own pace and refrain from making snub comments.”

I think this is the kind of attitude that, if everyone followed this philosophy, press conferences and interviews would be a complete waste of time. To begin with, Federer was asked specifically to assess Tomic’s game and his potential to break into the top 10. So he was “provoked”, to use your word. Furthermore, his assessment of Tomic is balanced if you bother to read it here (http://www.asapsports.com/show_interview.php?id=115808).

But it seems to me that the crux of your comment is that if you don’t have anything nice to say you shouldn’t say anything at all? That, I’m afraid, is just total nonsense. If a player has to read from a script, then don’t bother asking him questions. If he is asked a question, he should be free to answer honestly, as no other answer is worth listening to, without being castigated as “not classy” because he says something less than, “he’s great, he’s doing great, and he’s going to be great.” That’s just a waste of everyone’s time.

Finally, Federer called Djokovic a joke when he was a joke – namely when he took injury time outs left right and center, and then continued to play that match – he was not the only one to notice Djokovic’s miraculous powers of recovery (Roddick and Robredo mentioned the same among others) and in that particular case, it was against Wawrinka in a Davis Cup match that he somehow won despite calls to the trainer.

It should be pointed out that Djokovic no longer takes innumerable injury timeouts, and that probably has something to do with why he is performing at a much higher level than he was back when he was calling the trainer for things like a sore throat and a fever, and not having any energy, etc.

Context always helps…


Wog Boy Says:

MMT,
Disagree, it is about how and it what manner and what for purpose it was said, not just what did he say, not just dimple wuestion and simple answer, but than again, that’s Roger.


Wog Boy Says:

^^simple question


MMT Says:

I don’t know if you’re referring to comments about Tomic or Djokovic, but it’s revealing that you’ve identified neither…leaves me with the impression that your obsession is with what Federer says, but I digress…

If it’s not a simple question and simple answer, then it’s all about what you read into it, and that is essentially the problem. You read into it a put down or a some other such nonsense, when all you have to go on was what was asked and what was answered.

If you don’t take questions and answers at face value, then what is the point? Anyone can impose one’s interpretation that is based on absolutely nothing that they’ve said – but that is a complete waste of time. If you’re going to do that, why start with what they’ve said – why not simply start with your interpretation of what they say, since it has almost no bearing or basis at all whatsoever in what they’ve said?

It’s truly a waste of time.


Wog Boy Says:

I referred to both and to Roger. No need to elaborate. Take it any way you want, I don’t really care. I have mine opinion based on entire Roger career and his behavior, comments and answers and don’t need anybody to explain to me what did he really thought when said something.
Don’t worry, I am sure you will find plenty of posters here, on TX, who will agree with you, so just bypass me, please.


MMT Says:

In that case, I will bypass you as I clarify my point, which you’ve clearly missed: I am making no attempt to interpret what Federer or anyone else is thinking when they say something for you or for anyone else.

I am merely pointing out the absurdity of expecting specific answers to general questions, and then imposing one’s interpretations of the intent of the answer when it doesn’t convene with the script. Furthermore, the imposition of one’s interpretation in the absence of 1) the text of the question 2) the text of the answer, is about as informed as if you were to just start with your conclusion and work your way backwards to something they’ve said to suit it.


Wog Boy Says:

No question gives you right to give the answer that insults somebody or try to put him down, just because you feel entitled to do so.


Travis Bickle Says:

mmt,

Both Federer and Tomic were correct. Tomic even more so, when judging objectively, i.e. by the numbers which never lie…

Tomic is about 1000 points from Top 10 and Roger said he was not close to it. Correct!
Federer is almost 9000 points behind Djoker and Tomic said he was not close to him. Absolutely correct statement by Tomic!

Why then all the media and you Fed worshipers (and please do not tell me you’re not the one) are all over Bernie for his (correct) statement, when you were quiet after Rogers (also correct) statement??!!!
Double standards much?
Nothing unusual from Federer-biased fan base who condone cheering double faults if it helps their mighty Fed, and at the same time call shirt ripping by Novak “bad” behaviour. Again, I wonder what was worse,,,


skeezer Says:

LOL its now all the Fed fans fault from Novak loves. Get over the negative fed obsession some here have, the jealous butthurtness is obvious. Enjoy watching the AO instead, and the old mans great run so far at AO.


Wog Boy Says:

If anyone’s butt is hurt that is fedfans butt in the last couple of years and guite a few finals, so keep quiet and enjoy the run of St Roger.


Travis Bickle Says:

Skeezer,
After Wimbledon 2014 & 2015, ATP Finals 2014 & 2015, and USO last year, there is only one group of fans with hurting buts… and it ain’t Novak’s fans :-)

Since you opened the topic and revelled your problem, I suggest a water-based lubricant next time – it should help you next time :-)


Sarah Says:

Hello everybody,

Nishikori told regarding next match with Nole: “I’m ready to bit him again”. I have a good feeling regarding this. I am now sure, Nishikori will loose.


Sarah Says:

edit: beat, not bit


Sarah Says:

have to correct the above statement, he actually said, he hopes to beat him :D…


Daniel Says:

There are some fans that are still hurt by RG 2011 Fed win over Djoko!

And by the way, the fan group who are hurt the most right now are Nadal’s fan, hands down kkk

Just can’t watch enough this AO, wish I wasn’t working to stay up all night. At least I got to see finals next weekend.


MMT Says:

Travis Bickle: I didn’t criticize Tomic for what he said – in fact, I made no mention of it because it is 1) accurate, but it is also 2) a complete non-sequitur from Federer’s analysis of his chances of getting into the top 10. It is the logical equivalence of, “You’re one to talk.”

It is not probative, provides no insight, and serves no analysis and ironically (for someone who has a very public goal of reaching the top 10 for the first time in his career), takes no consideration of the opinion of someone who’s been in the top 10 for 14 years…that’s 14 years.

And I’d like to point out that discrediting the messenger, particularly by labelling them something that lead to a presumption of bias, is the weakest form of argument. The reason being that the person could indeed be entirely biased, and still make perfect sense, while someone who is unbiased could be saying something as illogical as, “the sky is red.”

Like Tomic’s response, your label has no bearing at all whatsoever on the question at hand – which is whether Federer’s comments are pernicious, with some mal-intent, or just his honest opinion about something. Assuming (erroneously) that I would treat Tomic’s comments differently does not exclude the logic or insight of Federer’s comments – the two essentially have nothing to do with each other, and therefore, it is pointless.

Why not focus on the original question, which was Tomic’s goal of reaching the top 10…wasn’t that the point?


jane Says:

daniel, lol, that was a tough loss, BUT even wog boy said it all happens for a reason. i think novak fans accepted that loss as fed playing awesomely. i was disappointed for him that he couldnt finally turn it in to a win over rafa in the finals.

even better for i think most of us was to see novak win wimbledon and to reach the apotheosis of his career – his first time at #1 – there, on that day, with a win over rafa, one of his toughest competitors.

no ill will from this end anyhow – though the finger wag is a nightmarish image. ha ha. ;)


Sarah Says:

@ Daniel, I guess Federer suffers more, because Nole denies him every single time to end up his carrier with a last GS title, like Sampras did..and hope , that Nole will do this over and over again :)


Wog Boy Says:

Thanks jane,
I said so many times on TX that in that match Roger played lights out, no question about that. I also said that Wimbledon was much more important for Nole in that part of his career since that was dream as young boy and not FO and also believe that if he had won FO he wouldn’t win Wimbledon, but that’s me. So Daniel, no butthurted Nole fan here because of that defeat, besides, that wasn’t in the final so no big deal.

But, finger wag hurts even today, thanks jane from bringing that up, and that finger wag just proves my point about Roger from my previous posts, so this fan was happy seing Srdjan staning from his chair after last point in Rome last year giving back to Roger finger wag, though it still hurts:)


Travis Bickle Says:

Fair enough, MMT,

Tomic’s goal of reaching Top 10 is much more realistic than Federer catching Novak’s level. Numerically speaking 1000 << 8600…

Also I am not assuming erroneously how Tomic's comment is treated by Fed-biased fans and media – take a look around, Bernie is being crucified for "how dare he speak back to mighty Fed".

And finally, this is my personal impression – Federer comments are more times than not pernicious. The man was always an egomaniac and very sore loser. Especially lately, last 18 months he is very bitter because his inability to solve Djoker puzzle and knowing what pernicious comments he has offered about Djoker in the past – of all the guys in the ATP the one he least likes to dominate him is exactly Novak – and that is the guy (former "joke" as mighty Fed called him) who prevented Roger of shredding history books and records last 2 years. Without Djoker, Roger would have had at least 22 GS titles by now (he wins USO 2010 and 2011 against Rafa)!!! And all that from a guy who he called a joke, a guy who grew up playing "lucky shots" on match points…

Bernie is just an intelligent guy and knows how to be pernicious back to Roger, i.e. hit him where it hurts the most, by evoking sad reality of Roger's inability to ever again reach level of … guess who… Djokovic!

Make no mistake, Roger is a grand guy when commenting on his punching bags – he was never pernicious in his comment about Roddick, Dimitrov, Goffin last night, etc…However, when someone appears who is not obsequious to him like Novak or Bernie his ego gets better of him and carefully crafted PR facade crumbles down and we all see the real Roger whose shit stinks like everyone else's…


Sarah Says:

and I will pray, that Federr will not get the Golden Medal this year…perhaps I will see him playing 4 years more until 2020, hoping to achive that career golden slam :)…and I have the feeling, he will not get that medal, but Djoko will!


Wog Boy Says:

jane,
“even Wog Boy” :))


jane Says:

ha ha “even” – nothing meant by that except that you’re special!


Jon Says:

Comparing ranking points is not simply a case of comparing difference in points.

For simplicity sake, would a rank number 2 sitting on 10,000 have equal chance of overtaking rank number 1 sitting on 12,000 points compared with a rank 100 sitting on 500 points reaching number 10 in the world sitting on 2500 points?


Travis Bickle Says:

As I predicted yesterday, Novak’s match against Key will be the night match.
That means he will have exactly 48 hours of recovery time – should be enough.


jake Says:

Tomic should just concentrate improving his tennis skills. You can speak about other players when you are already there… at least top 10.


MMT Says:

Travis Bickle: you’ve done exactly what I suggested Wog Boy should do – start with your interpretation and work your way backwards to Federer’s comments. His comments about Djokovic (some of which you’ve cited are 10 years old) have nothing to do with Tomic – absolutely nothing. The comments you refer to, out of context, may loosely convene with your preconceived narrative about Federer, but this too has nothing to do with Tomic at all – unless of course you want them to, as you clearly do.

Nobody’s saying Federer’s perfect – when he deserves criticism he is criticized (by me anyway). But two wrongs don’t make a right – one doesn’t solve address the blind admiration of him (that you deride) with the blind derision (in which you’ve engaged). They are equally useless.

You did assign to me the label of “fedfan”, but I am not. I have criticized him in detail more than once when I think it’s deserved, but this just isn’t one of those times. Tomic’s reaction to a question put to Federer (and I suspect the honest and less than laudatory answer given) is childish – it’s just a reaction out of petulance – as you can see here in context (http://www.ausopen.com/en_AU/news/interviews/2016-01-23/bernard_tomic_230116.html), the standard Danica used to label Federer “not classy” (that he was unprovoked) didn’t really apply to Federer in context, but it did (ironically) apply to Tomic, because he wasn’t asked to assess Federer’s game, he was asked if Federer’s comments motivated HIM, which he finally got around to answering after his tantrum.

I agree that Federer is a long way off Djokovic – but that’s not what was asked, and has nothing to do with Tomic. So it’s incredible that you infer a sinister motivation to Federer’s comments on Tomic (although you’ve not articulated what it is you think he’s doing – I guess you feel, like Djokovic’s parents did, that Federer views Tomic as a threat to him, and as such is trying to demoralize him?) But then ascribe righteous indignation to Tomic’s response, and laud him for what…giving it (whatever “it” is) right back to Federer. That’s some fog.

I agree with you on the Tomic comments – they were, in his view, “tit for tat” – I just disagree that Federer’s comments constituted “tat” in the first place.


skeezer Says:

MMT,
Well said.👍


madmax Says:

Petulant silly immature pratt is what Tomic is, and a backtracker.

“I know Roger said what he said. Maybe [I] took it the wrong way,” said Tomic, whose brief career has been spotted with partying controversies.

“I explained it the wrong way. Look, I think he did mention and say, ‘We all know that Bernard is not far from the top 10.’ He keeps saying it. I just would have liked Roger to say, ‘OK, look, he had an amazing 2015. [He] went from 70, 80 to being 16 [in the world].’ He didn’t mention it. I just felt like maybe Roger said the wrong thing.”

For someone who doesn’t care a lot about Federer, or show him any respect, all of a sudden Tomic ‘CARES’ about Roger says and how he said it?

Pathetic. Really makes me think that Tomic just wants a bit of publicity and that jealousy rears its’ ugly head.

Tomic needs to grow up. Such a baby.

Federer was not taking a shot at Tomic, he was being honest. Tomic did/does have talent, but more than anything he needs a decent PR agent.

HIs mouth shoots off at any opportunity. Any opportunity and boy, does he love it.

No better than Nick in my view.


Gypsy Gal Says:

Madmax lol,now tell us all how you really feel,sorry couldnt resist,and no offence ;))….


MMT Says:

madmax: The petulance is a tell-tale sign that you care about what others think – his capitulation (as well as Federer’s) is merely more effort to be liked.

I do feel for Tomic in this regard: when you’re outstanding as a junior in Australia, the level of expectation is enormous, and h won the Australian juniors when he was 15, and the US Open juniors when he was 16 – there are teenaged professionals playing those tournaments, so that is no small feat.

Add to that the enormity of his entourage of adults who have heaped unjust pressure on him to succeed quickly, by their mere presence on tour with him where ever he goes, and it’s understandable that he lashes out when mildly derided and behaves in a way (with his retirements and lack of effort) that would indicate that he can’t deal with the pressure.

But at the end of the day, he’s now a grown man, and must take account of himself. No more excuses – say what you want to say, forget the naysayers and get on with it.

I believe in his ability: I think he has the capacity to win majors if he can settle in on one or two technical and tactical approaches that will allow him to win all the matches he’s supposed to win…which has been his albatross. From there he can be in a position to win matches he isn’t supposed to win, and achieve his top 10 objectives.

http://tennis-column.blogspot.com/2015/07/thank-you-citi-open-real-bernard-tomic.html

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