Rafael Nadal Rocked Out Of Rio; Juan Martin Del Potro’s Comeback Stopped Short In Delray
by Staff | February 21st, 2016, 1:17 am
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Rafael Nadal beat Pablo Cuevas a year ago in the Rio quarterfinals. Tonight, Cuevas had his revenge in the semifinals hanging on to beat the former No. 1 in a 3-set marathon 6-7(6), 7-6(3), 6-4.

“I lost an opportunity, that’s it,” said Nadal who converted just two of 13 break chances. “I fought until the end. I have to accept it and keep working to try to change the dynamic. That’s what’s happening today and I have to work hard to change it.”

Nadal’s last title came in August when he beat Fabio Fognini to win Hamburg. And he’s still searching for his first Top 50 win of the season.

“I didn’t win a title, so it wasn’t a positive two tournaments. I had my chances in both. I lost in the semi-finals of both tournaments and just have to look forward to Indian Wells.”

Cuevas overcame an early break in the first to force a tiebreak. Then returned the favor in the second failing to maintain a break lead, but this time the Uruguayan won the break.

In the third, Cuevas rode the break and his serve with help from Nadal’s errors to record his first career victory over Spaniard in just under two and a half hours.

“This has been the greatest victory of all my career, winning against the best player in history in clay, so I’m very happy,” Cuevas said. “I always believed, being above or below. Even after one hour and a half and losing I believed that I could defeat him.”

Cuevas will meet surprising Guido Pella in the final after the Argentine snapped the 8-match win streak of Dominic Thiem 6-1, 6-4.

“Today, he was just the better player on the court,” said Thiem. “He had the same conditions, but he just handled them better than me. Everything was at a couple percent less than the last matches.”

The Delray Beach semifinals also saw two unexpected results. First, unheralded Rajeev Ram stunned Grigor Dimitrov 6-4, 6-3 to reach his first hardcourt ATP final.

“My career has always been about improving and enjoying myself,” said Sampras-esque Ram. “Some of the things I’ve worked on in the last eight month have really translated. Things such as switching to a bigger, more powerful racquet to stay on offence a bit more.”

Dimitrov falls to 0-2 against Ram.

“He was returning well and putting me in uncomfortable positions,” Dimitrov said. “There was just nothing out there on my side, but that’s just one tennis match. Onto the next week.”

In the evening, the return of Juan Martin del Potro came to an end at the hands of Sam Querrey who beat the former US Open champion 7-5, 7-5.

“That’s the best I’ve played so far and I did a good job of taking care of my own serve,” said Querrey, who did not face a break point during the one-hour and 20-minute affair. “I got a couple late breaks in each set. There were a couple chances here and there and I managed to get those.

“It’s always exciting to make a final. I’ve known Rajeev for 11 years. He’s got that Pete Sampras flat forehand and will serve and volley. It’s a different game from many guys. He’ll chip the ball around. That will be tough, especially in the day.”

Despite the loss, Del Potro felt positive about the week, his first tournament in 11 months.

“I always try to win, that’s for sure,” Del Potro said. “But this week I won more than a tournament. I’m so glad to play tennis again.”

The Argentine will take a few weeks off before taking a wildcard into Indian Wells.

“I can confirm I will play in Indian Wells, which is good news for me,” del Potro said. “I have a few weeks to rest and to train. I will be there to play another tournament and I’m looking forward to the future. I can start to make a plan to play more tournaments. I have many positive things to take from this.”


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63 Comments for Rafael Nadal Rocked Out Of Rio; Juan Martin Del Potro’s Comeback Stopped Short In Delray

skeezer Says:

“had my chances in both. I lost in the semi-finals of both tournaments and just have to look forward to Indian Wells.”
This is a ongoing problem.
So assuming this, that he had chances,…… so did his low level opponets, no? What about them? And they capitalized on their chances, no? He hasn’t/can’t.
Wasn’t he a former self proclaimed all time great? Really?


AndyMira Says:

“Just to look forward to Indian Wells”..yeah..so you can get bageled by djokovic for being so stubborn and stupid..can’t wait to see it rrrafa..


Pauly Says:

Andy Mira

Indian wells suits Nadal’s game
High bouncing surface
But that’s an inform Nadal
This Nadal is deeply out of form
He won’t play Djokovic Coz he will lose early
If they did meet 6-1 6-0 might be the score
Nadal is so much trouble now with his Game that he surely can’t get any worse or can he ?
Time for drastically changing his game
Flat forehand
2010 US open serve
Apart from that … Get new coach
Losing on clay is serious trouble


Pauly Says:

Skeezer

Was but not anymore
He was a great
Past tense WAS

Nadal is just a mere shadow of his former self


AndyMira Says:

Pauly..this rafa’s case reminded me of the movie i watched about alcoholics and drug addicts,they knew they’ve got trouble..all of them but one thing they’re all alike..they’re refused to recognize it let alone to get help..and if someone close to them determined to help them,they’ll meet with such resistance that sometimes become very physical..in rafa’s case..it’s interesting to see where this lead but 1 thing for sure,we’re his fans have to be brave for more heartache in months to come..da%$ st%$^&*..


Pauly Says:

Andy Mira

Ever since that wrist injury after the French open win
Nadal has never been the same ?
This year might be his worst year ever
No titles


AndyMira Says:

Yes pauly..sadly..i cannot see his circumstances will change anytime soon..in fact maybe the entire year..european clay also will give him no title this year..gosh..when we thought everything finally will fall into place this year..it turned out the worst than last year!And i’m sure other posters here already sick and tired with us for whining and complaining…


Pauly Says:

Andy Mira

Monte Carlo we will see how he goes ?
My opinion is very brutal
Nadal won’t win anything this year
He won’t even make the any finals on clay & he will be thrashed in some games against Djokovic 6-0
Absolute embarrassment
I’m not scared to say it … This will be his final year


Pauly Says:

It’s not hunger
I said it long ago so did others
His leg speed is gone
He can’t get back the balls back like when he was younger
His body is broken
He is going through the motions
He’s not scared to retire
I was hoping this year by miracle that he’d win the French open & make it his final year
Retire on good terms not be beaten by journey men like today
It’s absolutely ridiculous to see Nadal losing to bunnies on clay
He’s washed up
He knows it
His time at the top is over
His aura is gone
No one is scared of him anymore
Time to reflect
Thanks for the memories Rafa
All the best in the next part of your life
Marrying his long time partner would be on his mind no doubt
Hopefully he can carry the Spanish flag on opening ceremony of Rio games


Giles Says:

Zozza Zozza Zozza. Still obsessing over Rafa? You are one crazy dude. Just go and hide behind a rock.


Pauly Says:

I have a feeling this is Nadal’s final year on tour
Nadal isn’t someone who wants to lose always
He won’t be playing till 34 or playing ranked 15 or 20
I feel his career is nearing an end
Very sad but Nadal is the type of guy who isn’t scared of retirement
Seeing him lose so often is hard to take
Clearly he’s not interested in new coach
Whatever happens I regard him as one of the great of all time
Only injury has thwarted him from breaking Federer’s record of 17 majors
We will let Djokovic break that record
It’s time to let go
Nadal will always be popular
I just hope he can go out with a bang
Get back his 2004 forehand
2010 US OPEN serve
Finish his career on a high note
Enough said


AndyMira Says:

Agree with all you said pauly..we don’t have to see what’s going to happen in MC..it’s clear already..he don’t even have to face top 30 today and he nervous as h#$%..like i said earlier it’s interesting to see what rafa’s camp would do after this..


Angel Says:

I have always said that Nadal will retire first than Roger and many laughted well now they cry.
Good bye Rafa.


James Says:

Nadal is 8-4 this year – that’s when two of the tournaments he played and lost were 250 level clay tournaments. Losing 3rd set on clay against Thiem and Cuevas, can’t get much worse.

Problem is – its hard courts for some time now. These were supposed to be his confidence building weeks. Can’t imagine that happened at all.

With his 30th birthday round the corner – looks grim.

As for slams and Fed’s 17 (Ya, that’s his final number) – Nadal has also had the advantage that Djoke has – no great young player on his heels most of the time. One can say all these if’s and but’s – what if Fed didn’t get mono in 2008, etc. etc. It is what it is. Nadal is 14, Fed is 17. And when you add the YEC and weeks at No. 1, no question that Fed’s record is clearly superior to Nadal’s. Period.

As for Djoke? He certainly has a shot at besting Fed. Also, as I said, with no great young player on his heels, so far. But he first has to win the French to get into the GOAT mix.

Fed retires this year at Basel. Or maybe next year. Nadal probably also steps down next year. Djoke is now dealing with jaw pain (smiling too much!).


Gordon Says:

For me the shocking stat was the difference in Nadal’s ability to return first serves between the 1st and 3rd sets.

In Set 1 Rafa returned 11 of 26 first serves.

In Set 3 Rafa returned 0 of 17 first serves.

Yikes!


Giles Says:

Neither Rafa nor Fed have retired yet. So,,, Angel dear you might still have a long wait. Enjoy the ride or not.


AndyMira Says:

Everything about rafa was not right today..his serve at one point reach as low as 124kmh..sabine lisicki served at 210 kmh at 1 tournament 2 years ago..1 thing for sure..she never served at 124kmh!Also rafa’s serve very predictable..predictable and slow..deadly combination..he also gave too much power to cuevas to dictate the game..it was like cuevas put a rope around rafa’s neck and string him along whenever he wants him to be..it’s a sad reality for a champ..


Angel Says:

Giles, I am going to enjoy all the way this Year, Rafa’s butt being kick again and again is priceless for me.


Giles Says:

Angel. Why is that? Is it because he kicked your fave’s butt time and time again?


jane Says:

that’s a strange stat for sure gordon. quite the precipitous drop.


jane Says:

well, delpo did great in his first tourney back. so he’s on his way, and then we have thiem and kyrgios too. it’ll be very interesting to follow how all these guys do this season.


chrisford1 Says:

I still have hope for Rafa. What ails him is 90% mental, IMO. That can be fixed and a mentally strong and confident Nadal is still a match for anyone even with a little erosion in his physical level and technique. Love to see him back, because for me, the best tennis is not winning a Slam against a patsy..and “more Amazing Statistics”!!! What I watch the sport for is hope of seeing a match become another great classic. And there have been so many awesome clashes involving him that I hope anyone who loves the sport hopes Rafa has not finished yet.

—————
James – “…..no question that Fed’s record is clearly superior to Nadal’s. Period.

As for Djoke? He certainly has a shot at besting Fed. Also, as I said, with no great young player on his heels, so far. But he first has to win the French to get into the GOAT mix.”

—————

1. Depending on how the level of competition is factored in, and H2Hs, the ‘record’ may not be as clear as the unqualified by circumstances Slamcount criteria used by Pete and Roger fans -makes it out to be. Noting this is not dissing Federer, one of the best ever, but again pointing out that the measure is complex, will always be subjective to some extent…you have to go past the simplistic “Slamcount”. AS you did yourself in bringing in Roger’s huge accomplishment in year end championships vs. “Nadal’s nada”.

2. With Djokovic, the “must win the French Open” qual fans of other contemporary players have put on him is a fairly nonsensical one. It would certainly add to his fans arguments, but he is already considered one of if not the most complete players the sport has seem.
Before Roger and Rafa got the career Slam and their fans began saying that was essential to being considered “great” – aside from Laver in a different world of pro tennis and an Andre universally seen as just a little notch below Sampras – the best of the best “Greats” list had Connors, Borg, Lendl, McEnroe, and Sampras in the ranks. Rightly so – despite each not winning all 4 Slams.
Novak Djokovic is a complete ballplayer, adept on all surfaces. Including clay. No one can argue otherwise.

But this thread is about Rafa – and his story is of the all-time great that was the best claycourt player ever but who had the talent and drive to go past that and be able to beat Roger and Novak at their peaks on other surfaces. Whatever happens from here on out, Nadal is already a Legend.


Humble Rafa Says:

Whatever happens from here on out, Nadal is already a Legend.

Please don’t bring this type of reality filled rational comments. “Already a legend” is for the other guy that this forum worships.


Robin Says:

They are both legends.


Okiegal Says:

To Whom It May Concern:

Not crying………Rafa has had his glory days….it’s all good. If he doesn’t win another match, so be it. He is still a legend with a remarkable career….his resume is one many players would love to have….If he should retire, it won’t be a tragedy, life goes on!

Regarding his game…it is nerves……He can not deliver during the big moments anymore, his nerves get the best of him. He is just not as sure of himself as he used to be. I am curious to know if his camp is now finally getting concerned??? His fans certainly are!


Wog Boy Says:

“Also, as I said, with no great young player on his heels, so far.”

I disagree. Nole has few players that are breaking through and this might be his last year of multiple slams. Kyrgios, Coric, Thiem, Zverev, Kokkinakis (?) then Raoinc and Andy, Roger, Rafa… it is only a matter of consistency, they already have shown us they have quolity.


Margot Says:

@OKiegal
Rafa has OCD which is an anxiety disorder. It tends to get worse if untreated. I doubt that its been acknowledged, leave alone treated, in his camp. Doubt if Uncle T. has any truck with psychologists. Rafa is less fleet of foot these days and that inevitable physical deterioration is bound to increase his anxiety.
Sack Uncle T.I say. But I’ve been saying that for yoinks!


Wog Boy Says:

There is one thing I was always wondering about, how much authority and input Rafa’s father and mother had in raising their son? Was Uncle Toni his mentor and mother and father..?


Humble Rafa Says:

Was Uncle Toni his mentor and mother and father..?

I know this type of stuff requires high IQ. So let me help. Uncle Toni is not my mother or father. He is just an uncle.

If you have other high-IQ question, I will be happy to answer.


SG1 Says:

To me at least, the issues with Rafa aren’t mental. They are entirely physical. The injuries have taken away his ability to be the ruthless player he once was. I hadn’t seen much of Rafa until the match last night against Cuevas. He looked, for lack of a better word, horrible (…by Nadal standards of course). His forehand was erratic and lacked weight. His serve is nothing more than a bluff at this point. Mental issues don’t slow down forehands and serves. Injuries and time do.


Margot Says:

@Wog Boy
In Rafa’s autobiog, apparently he used to go home crying after sessions with Uncle T and his mother would ask him what was the matter but he wouldn’t tell her and his parents didn’t intervene. I get the feeling Uncle T is very dominant in that family.
@SG1
Ah, Rafa and his team not the only ones in denial, then?


Robin Says:

There’s been a lot of 98mph serves from other players…an 124mph serve accurately placed is pretty good. Doesn’t strike me that Nadal’s serve speed is the main problem………


Wog Boy Says:

HR,

This time around you failed, not quite IQ answer, but that was expected, you probably didn’t have a time to consult your Uncle before you answered the question. Next time better wait for his opinion, which will be yours at the same time,no?


Wog Boy Says:

Margot,

Thanks very much, that was what I was thinking.


Robin Says:

Note it is kmph….speed is still not the issue – placement and type of serve count.


Lo Says:

Rafa is of drugs people……open youre eyes. 80% of his balls land in the service area!! The power is suddenly gone, go figure


James Says:

Nadal IS a legend, no doubt about it. I even consider him to be a greater player, overall, than Sampras. But overall, Fed has a stronger case for best ever.

Djoke might get beyond that though. He is playing at a level not seen before. And while Krgyios, Thiem, even Raonic might break through – they haven’t yet, not even a slam final between them. So its going to be a while.


James Says:

Becker was the ultimate “young gun” – two wimbledon titles before he turned 19. But young guns don’t last into their thirties either – the wear and tear starts early. And in Nadal’s case, the wear and tear on his body due to his style of play is immense.

That’s why I think he is done.


Okiegal Says:

@Margot….He has definitely lost a step with his foot speed. I am sure his OCD behavior does cause him a high level of anxiety. SG1 says that mental issues don’t slow down forehands and serves…would partially agree with that. But being anxious in the do or die moments in the match when serving would cause him to make mistakes. First serve percentage is horrible. No confidence causes anxiety and here ya’ go…..it’s a vicious cycle and things fall apart. Yes, Margot, Uncle T needs to retire and pay attention to his own children. I bought his book and Uncle T’s brand of coaching was different!!


AndyMira Says:

@Robin..i still think that rafa’s serve is still a big issue..rafa’s heavy top spin when served out wide usually can’t be returned by his opponent but..if he chose to serve to his opponents body or in the middle of the court..this usually will get him trouble..the behaviour of top spin is that when they landed,they tend to bounced more higher than the flat ball..and rafa’s heavy top spin usually recorded around 3500,3800 to 4200 rpm..this is heavy..and it will make the ball slower..and coupled with the already slower serve by rafa[i believe because of his back injury]and that’s the main problem,player can attack his serve easily..let alone a vicious and great returner like novak and roger and who always can anticipate his serve and going for broke..

Like you said,other players can serve 124kmh and get away with it because their serve is usually flat and less spin,so their ball will go much faster..but for rafa..his serve already become a liability because of the reason above..and that’s why many voices here recommend a new approach,get new ideas to improve every aspect of his game..not only serve..and maybe we still can salvage what’s was left from his already amazing career.


Pauly Says:

Giles Says:
Zozza Zozza Zozza. Still obsessing over Rafa? You are one crazy dude. Just go and hide behind a rock

GILES
You’re one weird puppy
Go away support Djokovic
You’re such an embarrassment to this Website
Go & find this zozza ???
You fantasise about

Nadal needs his fans to be honest
GILES is no Nadal fan he’s just obsessed zozza fan


Pauly Says:

GILES

This crazy man or woman is no Nadal fan


Pauly Says:

Andy Mira

Forget the spin
Flat ground strokes more lethal
Nadal must go flat or else Indian wells will be another disaster
Maybe if we pray things will improve


AndyMira Says:

Pauly..rafa has to forget so much more,not only the spin..i actually scratched my head..he said he worked hard all this time,but worked hard on what??There’s nothing in his game and i meant nothing that change so far..he still stand so far back..how in the world can he attack his opponents ball if he’s stand so far back..he always talk about being aggresive..how can you be aggressive if you send the ball back to your opponent 4,5 times in a row?And in the end his opponents will smack him with the shots the line..take that!

Pauly..you remember at AO 2014?He won the 3rd set right?How he do that?yeah..of course wawa already a bit off because of rafa injury but if you look closely..rafa with his pained back and can’t run anymore start to use his shots wisely by sending them left and right..contrast to his usual style of rallying..now i want to ask you..why in GOD’s name he won’t do that now?He can’t rely on his speed anymore,why he still play like his speed is still there?Why can’t he be aggressive,send the ball left and right to make oppponents run instead of him?Against cuevas,it’s him who ran around the court like a madmen..he can’t afford to do that now..he don’t have a speed anymore!When will he going to acknowledge this reality?God..it hurts so much..


Daniel Says:

It’s hard for him to change patterns all of a sudden and he is not losing bad, apart from Djoko. All his matches he lost were close match in deciding sets. Deep down he still think he can outlast the opponents but due to his lack of “belief” lately, he is the one not holding together in critical times.

I think he’ll only try something new once he is blown of court constantly, which let’s face it, with his style of play won’t happen quite often. So he is in a conundrum right now!


Daniel Says:

Agree James, people think Nadal can revamp his game but if he could he would have done it already. He will just keep doing what works 70-80% of the time and hope for an opening, but at this point hard to see a change.


SG1 Says:

My point is that his physical limitations have taken their toll mentally. Not the other way around. You have to really feel for a guy that’s one of the 4 or 5 best players ever. It’s sad that he likely won’t be able to go out on his own terms.


Michael Says:

Rafa getting beaten on Clay by lower ranked players is certainly not a good sign for his future. And the fact is that he is not getting younger any more and by the time he plays Rolland Garros, he will be celebrating his 30th birthday and for his kind of taxing game which tells on his body by taking a heavy toll of it, it might just not be possible for him to emulate Legends like Roger who is still playing relatively good Tennis even at 35 !!

I am not sure if we are to draw up the curtains on Rafa of winning any more Majors adding to his already imposing 14. But, it does appear, that 2016 might probably be the last year as far as his slam chances and there is not a better place to do it than his familiar turf at Rolland Garros.


Michael Says:

Del Potro need not be disheartened for this is his first tournament after a long lay off due to surgery and I would say he certainly impressed everyone with his efforts.

Exposure to more tournaments in the days to come will give him the much needed match practice which he is short of and probably aid in his rediscovering his form for which he was once feared by even the creamy top !!


AndyMira Says:

@Michael..agree..but listen to rafa’s words..it seems he still believe that he’s not done yet..when he’s willing to still work hard to achieve that and being rafa always a fighter,always produced the impossible..then i’m willing to put a little faith in him..if not much..


skeezer Says:

Words are only words. Only words backed up by action matter. He has been lacking the latter.


AndyMira Says:

@Skeezer..agree..


Pauly Says:

Andy Mira

Nadal is in denial
What do you want him to say
I’m finished ?
He’s a fighter he will fight on until he is out of the top ten


Pauly Says:

Nadal has a secret obsession to beat Djokovic in Paris
To Deny his arch enemy one more time
If Djokovic doesn’t win the French open this year
He may never win it
As for revamping his game
Impossible !
Reason Nadal relies on leg speed which is the biggest reason why he is in decline … He’s slower getting slower everyday
Age is not on his side plus his body is broken injury after injury
If he can’t run like before he is doomed never to win another major sad but reality
What can he do about his current situation
Well improve serve & flat forehand plus attack the lines
Other than that nothing
He needs to play risky tennis
Prognosis not great
Everytime he plays now I always think he will lose
That’s not confidence but it’s true he’s losing too often

Let’s wait for Indian wells & clay court season to fully assess this year ? Fingers crossed miracles will happen
Every player knows when he’s time is over at the top
Nadal knows he’s career is nearing an end


AndyMira Says:

Oh GOD Pauly..this rafa affair is maddening to us..i’m not ashamed to admit..that i cried yesterday and today i feel my head is heavy and slightly dizzy..no doubt my bp is zooming..i hope he will settle this as soon as possible cause it’s not good for my bp!


AndyMira Says:

Pauly..agree with you that he needs to play risky tennis..what he’s going to lose anyway?Nowadays he go on court and he lose..at least when you play risky tennis,the chance that you’re gonna win it is there..so why not take it..we only saw it in all his opponents lately..it’s become a pattern now..if they’re to meet with rafa..no doubt risky tennis that is..they’re only target to make winners all over the court..that’s why all of them have winners that can fill the whole stadium..


Pauly Says:

Andy Mira

2014 Australian open final
Yes I recall Rafa injured
No fiddling when serving
No rearranging underwear
He was clearly restricted in movement
So he played quick
He stood much closer to the baseline
Hit big forehands
Wawrinka was shocked

If Nadal stood closer to the baseline
He’d be unbeatable when he was playing his best
His forehand firing on all cylinders
No one would beat him over 5 sets

But he stands 5 metres away
Let him do what he wants


AndyMira Says:

Pauly..now you remember..it’s strange right..he barely can walks at that time and his serve only 70kmh and he can steal a set from wawa..can’t he do it now?He’s not injured,can run,his forehand still working..it is very mystery to me why he’s lost confidence and belief while everything in him is healthy as rafalike ever be..


Pauly Says:

AndyMira

I have watched him play
I’m not a tennis coach but I see the problems
Firstly his serve isn’t as good as say 2013 when it was not bad on hardcourts
Secondly his forehand isn’t working well
Why is all this happening ?
I still think its all to do with his body
He knows he has limitations in movement & reflexes aren’t the same anyone can spot that
Standing so far back is confidence issue
He needs new coach ASAP
Someone with a voice to tell him new things
Uncle Toni is finished
He can’t teach him nothing no more
However if you read an article recently uncle Toni wished Nadal had a forehand like Federer ?
What happened to Nadal’s forehand of 2004 ?
Who told him to spin it ?
Did he use spin to decrease unforced errors ?
I don’t know but all I can say is forget about Nadal
Let him work out his problems or Retire

I’m over it


AndyMira Says:

Yes Pauly..agree..i’m still working on it..it’s hard to accept the fact that rafa is not rafa anymore..he lives in our heart since forever..it takes time to overcome this..but try we must..


Okiegal Says:

@AndyMira 4:47…..I have wondered the same thing……He is healthier now than ever. Same mystery for me?? It has got to be his age.. He has lost confidence in himself. He is one big ball of nerves!! His opponents walk on the court with all the confidence in the world and are cashing in on Rafa’s weakness…which is his fragile mental state……


AndyMira Says:

@Okie!it’s nice to hear from you..truth to be told..i missed our chat…by the way..like i said,rafa’s case is very mystery..in early 2015,we thought he lost confidence because he still afraid of using the injured part of his anatomy..but now 14 months after he came back,not only he’s healthy but his situations is much worse than last year..what is wrong actually?what more scary is that he can lost on clay in such manner..i actually agree with you that his OCD maybe played a big part of his losses..this is not about physical anymore..it’s inside his head..he should get a treatment for it but i don’t think his ego will allow him to do that..

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