Novak Djokovic: Reaching 17, 18 Grand Slams And Passing Roger Federer Is In The Back Of My Mind
by Tom Gainey | April 4th, 2016, 3:36 pm
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With Novak Djokovic so unbeatable the last year, the debate is turning more and more to can he reach Roger Federer’s all-time record of 17 Grand Slam titles?

Djokovic, who is just 28 and already has 11 Slams, admits he thinks about it but it’s not his main focus right now.

“The fact that you can have your name written in the history books of this sport that has given me and everybody so much is a privilege,” Djokovic said Sunday after winning a sixth Miami Open. “So that serves as a great motivation before any big match, any big tournament. And now as I go along in my career and as I achieve so much success, especially last two years, I give myself, you know, more opportunities to actually make records.

“Of course it is in the back of my mind somewhere,” he added. “But I don’t have that as a main motivation. You know what I mean? Because then things can go a little bit out of control. Maybe can present some kind of distraction that I don’t need.”

After a busy month of March, thing don’t slow down any for the World No. 1 who is expected in Monte Carlo next weekend and then Madrid and Rome next month. But he’s not worried about overplaying.

“I don’t feel too exhausted. I don’t think that I will have any difficulty to make transition to the clay courts quickly and swiftly enough,” he said.

“Obviously clay courts are physically most demanding surface,” he went on. “Looking at the big picture, also knowing that French Open is, you know, the biggest tournament and the biggest goal that I have on the clay courts and try to adjust according to that tournament, as well.

“But I live in Monte-Carlo. I’m definitely going to play there. I’m going to look forward to that tournament. And then I’m going to start thinking about, you know, whether or not I will play the rest of the tournaments. But for now I’m in the schedule for Madrid and for Rome and for Paris. That’s how it’s going to stay if there is not any different changes.”


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165 Comments for Novak Djokovic: Reaching 17, 18 Grand Slams And Passing Roger Federer Is In The Back Of My Mind

Wog Boy Says:

I don’t have doubt in my mind that Nole will reach 20 and beyond. There is no any competition to stop him, tennis is on his lowest points (quolity wise) in decades, boring, no imagination, no new quolity players, just percentage play by one mediocre player who is using this weak era to artificially beef his numbers…far cry from the golden and strong era of 2003-2007.
I am switching to grass bowling, far more exiting than ATP tour these days.


James Says:

My earlier post seems more relevant for this thread!
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Just after AO 2010, Fed’s 16th slam, he appeared unstoppable and well on his way to 20+ slams. He was 28+ then.

Suddenly it all stopped. Six years later, he’s at his final number, 17.

Just after 2013 USO, Nadal seemed on top of the world, 13 slams, quite a good chance of reaching or exceeding 17. He was 27+ then.

Almost 3 years later, he is stuck at 14, ranked outside of top 4, even winning the French is not so likely any more. His final number seems closer to 14 than to 17.

It suddenly dries out. That’s what age does. Right now Djokovic (at 11) seems (and is) invincible. People are talking about 20 slams! Don’t know when that’s happen, but its not that far away with him at 28+ in age. at 12/13/14, somewhere, it will suddenly stop. Then it will be a struggle to win even one more.

Same thing happened to Sampras after No. 13. 14 was a big struggle, and that was it.

Of course, Djokovic has the unique advantage of not having to face ANY young slam winner. so it might last until some young gun wins one.


Wog Boy Says:

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Dave Says:

I think everything depends on if he wins the French Open this year. If he does, he gets to 17 or more. If he doesn’t, the odds go down significantly.


J-Kath Says:

Dave:
We could have a Tennis-X running poll on whether or not Nole will (or not) win the French Open…each commentator could say why Yes or why No every Sunday??? Just a thought….

I said on a previous poll that Yes he will be No. 1 at end of 2016 but that No he won’t win French this year.

Don’t know if there will be any enthusiasm for this or not…if not, I’ll play it myself privately….


Roger Brandish Says:

Djokovic is young and he could possible get tl17 if not more. But it is a tough ask. Even for Djokovic who really is a complete player. How he does this year will determine if he can reach it. If he can’t get more than 12 slams by the end of the year, it will be very difficult. Also, if Federer wins Wimbledon (he has a great chance), or if a young gun wins a slam, then Djokovic’s chances go down significantly.


David Gothefred Says:

Djokovic is young and he could possible get tl17 if not more. But it is a tough ask. Even for Djokovic who really is a complete player. How he does this year will determine if he can reach it. If he can’t get more than 12 slams by the end of the year, it will be very difficult. Also, if Federer wins Wimbledon (he has a great chance), or if a young gun wins a slam, then Djokovic’s chances go down significantly.


kjb Says:

He has got a decent shot at it but at the end of 2013 everyone was saying that Nadal was definetely going to pass Federer. I would give Djokovic a better shot than Nadal had at the end of 2013, but by the end of next season if he is not within 1 or 2 of Fed it will be very difficult. I still think Fed has 1 more run in him, things would have to open up a bit obviously, but its going to be fun seeing how things unfold over the next couple years, thats for sure.


chrisford1 Says:

Wog Boy – I’ll bet you whatever, that Djokovic will not see a 20 trophy Slamcount. There are things, though, that will short circuit the “Slamcount criterion” created by Pete Sampras fans. Far from likely, but if Djokovic got a calendar year Grand Slam, argument is over. If the algorithm changes and it likely will because those 120-285 million dollar contracts you see going to American NFL and baseball players, plus star football players are based on sophisticated performance number crunching – other things short of a calendar Grand Slam, or the always mentioned Slamcount of 17 achieved in different times will have to be evaluated:
ELO. Highest Ratings points achieved. Time at #1 – end of year and by sum of weeks. A Djoker Slam. A sweep of the Masters 1000s, or even a record just short of all 9 in one year. Winning % on all surfaces. The level of competition Leyton Hewitt and Federer had in the 1st 6 years of the 2000s – vs what competition level Rafa and Novak faced as a ‘correction factor’. What Raphael Nadal and Muzz think 10 years from now matters. Because as the 2 closest to the action, Rafa and Andy will get asked that a lot down the road.
And there will be some that will sincerely believe Rafa, or Pete, or Bjorn, or Laver were better than Fed or Nole.


Wog Boy Says:

CF1,

My post wasn’t really saying (in serious manner) that Nole will win 20 it was about something else..;)

I don’t know why those people are worried whether Nole will win more than 17, they must be Roger fans, I don’t see Nole fans forcing the issue:)
I said before and I’ll say it again, if he can get to 15, including FO, with his other records, he will be rightfully considered one of the best ever, regardless of #17.


Daniel Says:

Yes James,

We never when the end of prime years wilt them. Coincidently for fed and Nadal was in 28/29 and 27/28. Novak will be swimming sam waters next year so that’s why I always said he has to maximize his window. Last year I said if he got 3 he will have a pretty decent shot at Sampras and Nadal 14. Now this numbers seems almost a given. Would be very very surprised if he not win at least 1 more this year. I think he will win 3 again and tie Federer for 3 times winning 3 majors a season.

But I think getting the RG-Wimby double would be hard and that’s going to be the period that can cement his legacy for good.

My take if he indeed finally wins The French, as I think he will, somehow his mentality for Wimbledon changes a bit. And there maybe Murray (1-0 over him there) or Fed (1-2) or someone of the big serves having a great serving day (Anderson almost did last year) and he could lose.

And if that happens he will regroup for USO.

But if he wins RG and Wimby, than sky is the limit and he will have 5, going for 6 and Calendar Grand Slam.

Last 2 years he lost RG but regrouped without problem and without a tune up grass tourney so even if losing French again (maybe this time he can get more anxious due to opportunities lost) but we saw that he can recover fast.

The only thing I can anticipate now is how he will play Wimbledon if he finally wins the French (career Slam, 4 in a row), how will it affect his motivation? He can have a letdown due to all the past year of self pressure to win it and feel relieve.

But, judging by Fed in 2009, it went on to propel him for Wimby as well, so, don’t know which path Djoko will go in that RG scenario. Only time will tell


Humble Rafa Says:

In the weak era, anyone can win 20 GS.


Markus Says:

I am a Federer fan but I’m not worried if Djokovic wins 17 or more slams. If and when he gets there, I would be very happy for him and say he deserves it. Anybody who can win so much during his career fully deserves it, no ifs ands or buts about that. I would not even try to diminish it with those “weak era”, “prime age” theories that some people here postulate. It is not fair when they apply it to Federer just to make somebody else look better. In that regard, it would not be fair either if Djokovic wins 17 or more and somebody applies those same theories to devalue his slam count.


Wog Boy Says:

Wog Boy,

HR should say, “In the weak era, anyone can win 17GS.” no?;)


Kimberly Says:

If I had to make a wager I would say 14 yes and even make a wager YES, 17 certainly possible but I would wager NO.


Daniel Says:

I’ll wait till end of this year to assess,
- If he finishes the year with 13, 50% chance
- If he finishes with 12, NO
- If he finishes with 14 (6 in a row) than YES.


chrisford1 Says:

WB – I saved your movie, BTW, hopefully in my free time I’ll look at it. Right now it is taxes, business accountants, lawyers time.
On another thread I mentioned to you I thought for the 1st time, a player has lapped the whole field. Yep. He did. Lapped Fed’s points, now has well over double Andy’s points.
In your OWN idle time, you might enjoy looking at the ATP statistics. Novak’s name is popping up on list after list of the 10 best at this or that. Sometimes topping those lists already. Plus unique things like being the only man in the Open Era in the Top 10 in winning percentages n all surfaces, indoors and outdoors.
(Not bad for someone who lost 2 years of tennis development in the war years and who had health issues0


mat4 Says:

Once again, we are in the troubled waters of predicting the future.

So, again, my two cents: if he stays healthy, Novak will slowly continue to improve his shotmaking, his serve, his strategy after the serve, etc. He will also slowly fade physically, especially after 32.

Will he dominate and reach new heights? It depends of the new wave of younger tennis player. Federer and Nadal didn’t fade in 2011, or 2014 — they had to face a better Novak. Take him out of the equation, and Rafa is no 1 with 20 slams, or Fed is no 1 with 20 slams, and the theories of “peak” and “weak” are meaningless.

Novak started to win a few years too late, and lost another few years after the initial improvements of his health and, game wise, of his forehand. IMHO, he has this year to make some records, win RG, perhaps another Wimbledon, then, I guess all will change: new players are coming, and they are young enough not to be broken by defeats like Rafa was, or lately Kei.

I see Thiem very close to the top next year, winning a slam. Zverev will be better. Goffin will finish top ten this year. Raonic is already here, and while still a mystery, Kyrgios could rise near the top. 4K will be better too.

So, Novak has a good chance to win more slams, to remain probably no 1 this year and next year, but time in tennis goes fast, and if he wins 17 slams, it will be a major feat.

My take is that he probably will manage to win 13, 14 slams. If he wins RG this year, it will be four in a row, and for me it’s a Grand Slam. It will be a career slam anyway. He could also win a gold medal at the OG, for a golden career slam.

A great 2016 season, with two, perhaps three slams and a golden medal will put him in the discussion for the best ever.

More than that is a bonus.


Wog Boy Says:

CF1,

I haven’t seen the movie myself, was given link last night, but it looks interesting and accurate and first of that kind about my (and Nole’s) city and country. The author, Boris Malagurski, lived in Canada and finished University of British Columbia (film production) and lives now in Belgrade. He made much more important movies like “The Weight of Chains 1 & 2″ which are worth looking for somebody who wants to know more about what really happened in the Balkans in 90s.

As for Nole, I agree with you, but he will be also mentioned as the man who single handedly broke the duopoly of two best tennis players in the history in their primes, something Roger didn’t have to do to reach the top, Rafa had to beat the best player in the history and to fend off surging Nole and Andy to get to the top, what is the feat for itself.


David Gothefred Says:

The tag of greatest tennis player of all time is opinion based. Novak is just as good as Rafa who is just as good as Roger. They are all time greats. Probably the greatest tennis players we have ever seen. It is highly unlikely any of them will end their careers with over 18 majors. Even Djokovic. He will go down as an all time great. And at the end of the day, it’s an opinion about who the greatest ever is. Regardless of major count, we can’t say that one man is greater than the other. Djokovic will probably reach Federer’s record, but not pass it.


chrisford1 Says:

Marus – I understand your feelings about “yes….BUT” and diminishing achievement due to factors outside the control of the subject person or group. But level of competiveness does wax and wane over time.
It may hurt fans of Isner, Querrey, Donald Young, Michael Russell to note that they are not as good as Sampras, Courier, Agassi, Chang – but it is true. American men have had a long period of lack of players that belong in the Top 10. Never met the latter players, but in the 2000s-2016 group I did meet John Isner and Donald Young and they were really down to earth and nice. But facts are facts.
Sports can have golden ages and then go fallow, not just nations players that participate. Happens outside sports all the time – cycles of industries , national reputation, and so on and so on.
And the arguments about the early to mid 2000s being a less competitive time don’t start with Fed. It begins with looking at what quality of competition “Runty Rusty” Hewitt faced that enabled him to be #1 for 75 straight weeks. Never to challenge again after Fed came into form, and no one could challenge Fed over a season for 234 straight weeks until Rafa broke through, and Novak and Andy started bedeviling Roger


elina Says:

You guys! If Novak wins the French Open this year and hold all four slams at the same time it will be, as The Donald would say.

YUUUUUGE


Wog Boy Says:

Who is The Donald?


kjb Says:

@Wogboy

I think she is referring to “The Trump”


David Gothefred Says:

Serena Williams should be the president of this country. Not any of the candidates.


Wog Boy Says:

Thanks kjb, I see.


django Says:

YUUUUGE


anki Says:

Novak is not going to win 17. No way. Things are way too unpredictable in sports. Who knows may be he will never win a GS ever. All I hope is for him to equal Rafa and Pete’s record before he retires. Win a French Open title and Olympic gold medal too.


Green Lady Says:

And there will be some that will sincerly believe that Rafa, Pete, Borg, Laver were better than Fed and Nole err what ? ,so are we now pissing on the achievements of the other all time greats ? ,last time i checked Pete and Rafa had 14 GS to their names , Laver 2 career GS , I get Novaks the man that probably will go on to be the best ever , if GOAThood is what you believe in, but some take their hero worshipping to an obsessional level ….


Green Lady Says:

And to add many all time greats past and present said Laver was the GOAT ….


Pauly Says:

Djokovic is finally playing Madrid
If I recall 2009 Madrid semi final vs Nadal was one of the greatest matches ever
Nadal lucky to win it but had nothing left for the final vs Federer & got rolled in straight sets
Wow hopefully we will see another match like that
Looking at the form of both players … Doesn’t matter what surface it is at the moment
Djokovic wins everywhere until Nadal’s form comes back miraculously ?
Doesn’t look good for no one this year yet again … Djokovic might sweep up all the titles
He never was able to back up his 2011 season but looks like he might back up 2016 unless others find top form & spoil his party ?
Not looking good … Djokovic will get 17 slams by next year whether he can get 18 is the real question
Nadal in decline Federer not in GOD mode no more
Wawrinka the big hitting Swiss is the only one who can stop Djokovic in some tournaments oh andy Murray might do something at Wimbledon
Djokovic all 4 majors plus Olympic gold medal is most likely scenario unless injury or fatigue stops him
I wonder maybe he’ll get tired from winning too much 😂


Pauly Says:

Nadal made the best comment recently
Djokovic is dominating tennis too much lately
Well stop him


Giles Says:

Keep it at the back of your mind joker cos that’s where it belongs.


nits Says:

Life is unpredictable
We should enjoy the moment. We should savor this one man show until it lasts.
Waiting for Monte Carlo to begin
For me it’s the best part of season culminating @ Wimbledon the green pinnacle.


nits Says:

Although in the end of their respective career’s whether it’s 15,16 or 18 it will be a debate left to fans who was the greatest?.
I feel for Murray he somehow is left out of this elite multi slam winners group.


Dave Says:

Speaking of Murray, Why didn’t he play in Monte Carlo last year? And is he going to play this year? It would be a good opportunity to protect his number 2 ranking, since he will have no points to defend.


Margot Says:

Dave:
1)Dunno
2)Yes


MMT Says:

Three years ago were having the same conversation about Nadal when he got to #13 at the US Open – we’re now having it at #11 for Djokovic. I wish him all the best, but the end comes quickly for the greats.

http://tennis-column.blogspot.com/2009/07/privlege-of-pressure.html


chrisford1 Says:

nits – Although in the end of their respective career’s whether it’s 15,16 or 18 it will be a debate left to fans who was the greatest?.
I feel for Murray he somehow is left out of this elite multi slam winners group.
===================
Big 4 was coined as an aspirational term back circa 2010 or so. You had the Duopoly of Fedal and two emerging super talents that had taken lots of Masters, beat both Roger and Rafa at times, and no one else threatening save an injured Delpo. The 2011 Novak season and Andy’s gold and Slam in 2012 showed Djokovic was on board and Andy was also joining the train.
But the gap has widened between Andy and the other 3.
It is now “The Big 3 and Andy” as I see it.
If it becomes those 3 with all the weeks at #1, Andy at zero? Those 3\4 with 20-30 Masters and Andy in the teens, Fed and Nole with 6 YECs and Andy with zero. And a significant, bad H2H with the 3?
Unless Murray makes a move, he may be written out. To leave the Big 3 and then some other talented players of the time – who were of an order of magnitude less accomplished. Stan and Andy. Delpo. Cilic. Maybe Thiem, Coric, Kyrgios with Slams by the time Andy retires, but like him, well under 5 Holy Slams.
If Andy is “somehow” left out, the answer is simple. Hard numbers. Fedal has the bulk of their legacy sealed by 2010. Then Novak stepped up in a way Andy didn’t. After 2013, he regressed. Andy needs a Slam or a YEC to get back in the conversation. I like Andy, and hope he gets it together enough for one of those things to happen in 2017, joined by one last Nadal Comeback starting in 2017.
But I want 2016 to be All Djokovic!


SG1 Says:

Novak has lost 9 slam finals. That’s a pretty big number. When it’s all said and done, I think this will be the reason he doesn’t catch Roger and doesn’t get to 20. He’s left a few on the table that he probably shouldn’t of.


SG1 Says:

Roger’s in the same boat. He won his first 7 slam finals but has gone 10-9 and since making it very difficult for him to get to 20. I think there’s a certain of mental will each athlete is given. Losing slam finals taps that mental will a little each time. Tennis is a sport of incredible highs and lows. It’s tough to ride the rollercoaster for prolonged periods.


SG1 Says:

I will say this. Novak is one of the greatest ever players in the slams and outside the slams he is the best player I have ever seen. Such consistency. It seems like whatever he’s got on a given day is enough to the beat the guy he’s playing. And his level rises when he plays better guys. Novak is a living legend at 28. Where could I sign up for this deal?


Markus Says:

Murray, formerly of the Big 4, has distanced himself from the first 3 but going in the wrong direction. The big difference between him and the other 3 is mental. While the 3 can focus their minds solidly and consistently during a match or a whole tournament, Andy’s goes all over the place. Physically and talent wise, he is not in any way inferior to those guys, that’s why this mental deficiency is so lamentable. He is getting older so I expect it to become even worse.


elina Says:

SG1, that’s why he hired Becker and it’s paid YUUUUUUUUUUUGE dividends.

He’s 5-1 last six slam finals and the one guy who’s 3-0 in slam finals over the last four years isn’t the same guy anymore.

Two more slam wins per year (to add to his 11) over three years is not a big stretch.


George Says:

I think that he will do it. I think that he will try by hook or by crook to scrape 14 first and then 17/18 or more if Federer wins more. I believe that he can do it because of his background and his motivation. I heard him when he said that he will do it and why he will do it (I will not disclose what he said). Loss against Wawrinka in FO2015 made him a monster; he is like someone who was killed once and can’t be killed again.


Van Persie Says:

SG1,

Just one correction: Djoko lost 8 GS finals


RZ Says:

Don’t have a thread for this, but wanted to say that I wish the Funk included the doubles players – Pierre Hugues-Herbert/Nicolas Mahut and Bethanie Mattek-Sands – who also completed the IW-Miami double rather than Fed. The fact that all 4 finals were won by players who completed the IW-Miami doubles is incredible.


ABerg Says:

It looks like he is starting to hedge wrt Madrid.

“And then I’m going to start thinking about, you know, whether or not I will play the rest of the tournaments.”


J-Kath Says:

Dave & Margot

Andy not playing Monte Carlo last Year….???

I think he was bushed by his Herculean efforts at Davis Cup…


madmax Says:

Novak has every chance of beating Roger’s slam count. No question.

Equally, he could just run short.

Then again, he might equal the slam count.

May be Rafa will get to 17 second.

Perhaps Murray will be the all time grand slam winner and win them all from now on until he is 35? Who knows?

Novak has every chance. He is the fittest player and the best player on tour right now and has been for a while.


Van Persie Says:

Dave,

If I emember well, Andy got married after Miami last year and he was in honeymoon afterwards…


RZ Says:

@Dave, Margot, and J-Kath, wasn’t Andy getting married around this time last year? I think that was why he skipped MC.


RZ Says:

High Five to Van Persie, who just beat me to it with the answer to why Andy didn’t play MC last year.


Van Persie Says:

RZ, High 5 back ;)….and U owe me a drink for beeing quicker :)


MMT Says:

“nits Says: Although in the end of their respective career’s whether it’s 15,16 or 18 it will be a debate left to fans who was the greatest?. I feel for Murray he somehow is left out of this elite multi slam winners group.”

If Djokovic has more majors than Federer (and everyone else), won’t he necessarily be the GOAT? And Murray is where he is because he just isn’t good enough, right?


RZ Says:

Here are several drinks for you VP – take your pick!
☕ 🍸 🍺 🍵
🍶 🍷 🍻 🍹


Van Persie Says:

Very nice, very nice RZ, I see now Okie is a good teacher ;)
Thank you, I will take the virtual cappuccino :)


chrisford1 Says:

madmax – “Novak has every chance of beating Roger’s slam count.Equally, he could just run short.”

Or the Slamcount metric could go away as the single “GOAT Criterion”.

Return to what it was – a big part of evaluating a career, but pre-Sampras that was still just a part of a more holistic evaluation – Davis Cup, YECs, Success and H2H in all the other tournaments and how they fared against Top 10 and how solid that Top 10 was.

The future metric(s) may involve more complicated number crunching, like American football quarterback ratings and what makes basketball star X worth twice as much on the open market as Player Z.
Add ELO. Ability in a+ll events and surfaces. Ave. Points per year in their 10 best years. The impact of things done that showcase a tennis players abilities – 9 straight trophies at X event, best serve, winning a Grand Slam. Did they dominate all players or did one player “own” them (Or many more??). Weeks and years ended as #1. Number of medals and YECs. # of Masters and ATP 500s.

We shall see.
I personally think a Grand Slam short-circuits the “Slamcount is Everything!” argument right away, should it happen this year. Non-calendar or Calendar Slam.


Martin rivkin Says:

until some players are actually in form and challange the joker mens tennis is in bad decline been like this for too long thought players stepped up and took on the world number 1 not crumble and so few up to the task at all!!!!!!joker us the worse world number 1 ever bore to watch and totally forgettable if no one steps up or at least some hitting top form may as well sign all events over to the joker. So glad womens tennis as unpredictable as ever and who wins not set b4 event even starts unlike mmmm the mens game..
when someone actually starts to challenge joker and creates more open events as to who wins please post on here as mens tennis is such a massive bore now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! everyone below par no one shining and joker novak playing tennis without any wow just numbers game solid but utter yawn!!!!!!!!
womens tennis far better now and open something mens tennis is totally lacking and has been for ages!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!get in form and challenge the joker for gods sake he aint even an amazing player just a percentage player making few mistakes but style and wow factor left out each time!!!!!!!!!!!


James Says:

It was for very different reasons – but Tiger Woods is another example of how a winner can suddenly stop winning. When many years ago he was at 14 majors, 18 seemed like a piece of cake for him. Now 15 seems nearly impossible.

The Fall is usually very quick and steep. When just one young guy steps up to the plate, Djoke will suddenly find it very difficult to win slams. Until then, its upto the oldies to try and wear him out.


elina Says:

Agree with cf1, holding all four slams on three different surfaces never done in the history of mens tennis?

Quickest path to GOATdom given his already impressive achievements catapulting him by Roger and even Nadal simultaneously.

If he doesn’t win the French this year, we may have to wait until sometime next year.

Meet the new GOAT,
Not the same as the old GOAT.


courbon Says:

WB- I love that movie-Thank you!


Giles Says:

🍹Martin Rivkin. Great post


J-Kath Says:

RZ – You are right…forgot he got married April 11 which must have been close to Monte Carlo last year..and he’d come off Davis Cup. But yes, if it hadn’t been for the wedding he would probably still have played.

Cheers


courbon Says:

Giles, do you have a scratch? Because you are repeating your self like scratched vinyl…
Or maybe Martin Rivkin is actually you, with different moniker.Kind of Norman Bates of tennis bloging…


Wog Boy Says:

I love this era of boring tennis, keep it up No1e..

On the other note, I am more interested in how Roger will play after almost three months without competitive matche. Has it ever happened to him before? Something like that in his ages could be dangerous, if he doesn’t do well in the next fee months it could be the end of the road for him this year.


Wog Boy Says:

courbon,

Anytime, I liked it too.


Dave Says:

If Nole does tie the record at 17 with Federer, if they judge by the other numbers, he will easily win the tie break. Masters 1000′s won’t even be close. Year end number 1′s will be in Nole’s favor. Possibly WTF in his favor as well. Total weeks at number 1′s will be his, because lets face it, if he win another 6 slams, he will be at number 1 long enough to get that record as well. I do agree that if he wins the French Open this year, that already puts him neck and neck with Federer, based on the fact that he will hold all 4 slams at the same time.


George Says:

For me, this is great era. Djokovic vs time. Can he break 302 and 17? I also look forward to Federer coming back and playing Djokovic. I enjoy watching their matches as well as matches with Nadal and Murray.


lylenubbins Says:

Great posts!

I’m with Chris, let’s see a calendar Slam from Nole! If he’s going to brutalize everyone and ruin the competition, we might as well get that out of it.


George Says:

@Dave: If Djokovic hold all 4 majors at the same time he has done it. Laver did it when professional tennis was in its embryonic stage.


Wog Boy Says:

Agree about Nole/Roger/Rafa matches, Roger/Nole matches are just a notch above Rafa/Nole matches in quolity but lacks gladiator component that Rafa/Nole matches have. Hard to pick which one I prefer, maybe Rafa/Nole because of that gladiator component.


Wog Boy Says:

As elina pointed out, rightfully, Laver played on two surfaces (grass and clay), Nole on three, plus AO and USO are different HC surfaces.


George Says:

@Wog Boy: My favourite matches are: AO2012 Djokovic-Nadal and FO2013 Nadal-Djokovic. USO2011 Djokovic-Federer, Wimbledon2015 Djokovic-Federer and USO2015 Djokovic-Federer. I love partisan crowd and biased pundits; it is always a great laugh. My favourite piece of tennis analysis is “15 reasons why Federer will beat Djokovic” (in USO2015 final) by Craig O’Shannessy.


Jac Says:

This is something i miss in tennis. Novak and Rafa running from one corner to another, bomb after bomb going over the net and 2nd guy almost always there to make yet another shot. This is what i miss. Federer and Djokovic matches have their magic, but this gladiator component as WG put it is also something i miss.

Nowadays tennis seem to be more static…or maybe those two were producing that special kind of magic.


Margot Says:

@RZ
Duh …of course! Completely forgot wedding! How could I?
Mea maxima culpa.


Michael Says:

I think Novak has more chances than Rafa to surpass 17 and thereby overhaul Roger. This year would be the key and if he is able to repeat the feat of last year or even excel it by winning Roland Garros, then certainly he is in for a major shot to even reach 20.

But, astute he is, doesn’t want to put too much pressure on his shoulders at this stage.


Green Lady Says:

Michael no offence but not all of us want one player winning everything, some of us are actually fans of other players, dear me, talk about over kill ….


SG1 Says:

Tennis, like many other sports is one where you get old in a day. Look at Federer. In 2009, he won 2 majors. In the past 6-1/2 years, just one. Sampras hit the wall after 2000 and didn’t win a tournament until his very last in 2002. Peyton Manning…in 2013 he threw for what was it…55TD’s? By 2015, he couldn’t hit the broad side of barn.

Novak, like Federer in 2009, looks like he has a pile of majors left in the tank. But, sport doesn’t work this way. Declines are rapid and unpredictable.


SG1 Says:

Find it hard to believe that he will avoid injury, a young (or several young) challengers and stay hungry for the next 3 to 4 years after all he has already accomplished. It’s not impossible but it just seems so unlikely.


SG1 Says:

To be fair to Roger…he didn’t look old in 2015 but he didn’t win the big events either. It’s was a weird situation.


James Says:

SG1 – this is exactly what I said even earlier in this thread itself – see the second post in this thread. When the streak is going, the player looks invincible (and is invincible). then it suddenly stops, and the players just can’t win any more. This switch is almost always sudden.


Michael Says:

Alison/Green Lady,

Even I hate overwhelming domination which is not good for the Sport. But right now, Novak is the envy at Players locker rooms where seemingly the tour is frustrated with one player taking it all. What can you and I do ? In the interest of sport, there must be some semblance of competition. But Novak is just sweeping everything away !!

SG1 – I agree with your post @ 12.58 pm. Declines are indeed rapid and unpredictable and so nothing is certain. But at the moment, Novak is looking incredible and he has already created a space for himself in the Legends of the Sport.


Green Lady Says:

Michael, how did you know i was Alison?, anyway im a bit fed up with tennis being a one man show, and to be honest im getting fed up with this forum, even every topic of conversation gets steered towards you know who ?, im not saying i hate the guy, and yeah i know it was the same 3 years ago, when it was all about Rafa, and i do admire Novak and his achievements, but its at saturation point now ….


Daniel Says:

SG1, James,

Agree, that’s why I am very curious to see where and how Novak will be like in 12 months when he’ll be about to turn 30.

It’s like what happen with Fed in 2009/2010, won 2 straight majors, than lost a final (USO) than won 1 more and bang, only 1 more major 2 years after and a few finals after that last win.

Nadal won 2 majors in 2013, final in AO and won RG reaching last 3 straight finals (2 wins) in 2014, never reached a single Slam semis ever since.

Ir happens out of knowhere but an indication is there, losing Slam final. Right bow Novak won last 3 he played (5 out of 6). once he loses a Slam final again (if ever😜) than maybe we can speculate.


chrisford1 Says:

I’m a bit fed up with tennis being a one man show, and to be honest im getting fed up with this forum, even every topic of conversation gets steered towards you know who?

Maybe they can open a Berdych thread for you..

For now though, Djokovic is by far and away the biggest story. Guy hasn’t lost since the USO save for an eye infection retirement. USO-Beijing-Shanghai-Paris-The Championships – Doha-Australian Open-Dubai (ret.) Then Davis Cup – Indian Wells-Miami. Huge events like the French Open and Olympics looming. Records falling right and left.

Maybe if you leave for a while, as you threaten to do unless someone else becomes newsworthy by winning – you’ll be less tired and weary of Djokovic winning. Because that will not stop anytime soon.
That, or bail and follow the WTA instead.


Dave Says:

I can’t find the Monte Carlo draw yet. I guess it will be done tomorrow.


Giles Says:

^^^ Draw out tomorrow at 12 noon.
Vamos Rafa!


AndyMira Says:

Dave @ 1:08pm..agree with you Dave..usually the draw not come out this late i think..i can’t wait to see the draw..especially rafa’s section..he’s got a scary draw at IW and Miami..if he’s in similar fate here..i don’t know what to say..


J-Kath Says:

Folks: The Draw is Saturday.


AndyMira Says:

Ok JK..thank you for your information..


Dave Says:

Thanks Giles. So, 3 am my time.


chrisford1 Says:

12:44 PM post for Green Lady


J-Kath Says:

THE DRAW: Depends where U live Dave and Andy Mira. Anyway, it is “lunch time” UK as we are now same time zone as mainland Europe.


Dave Says:

I’m 8 hours behind London time. So it will be 4 am my time.


Green Lady Says:

Chris Ford1 dont tell me what to do as i dont appreciate it, if i choose to blog i will blog, and if i choose not to it will have nothing to do with you RIGHT ?….


J-Kath Says:

Don’t want spats between people who usually get on. But especially,GL don’t stop blogging. We would all miss you….


Green Lady Says:

Thanks J-Kath and Giles for that bit of info ….


Green Lady Says:

J-Kath thanks, and rest assured im going nowhere, well not permanantly, i do have some more course work to do soon, which is for my job skills, but like a boomerang ill keep coming back, i wont let anyone drive me away, i wouldnt give them the satisfaction, CHEERS DARLING ;-) ….


J-Kath Says:

Go girl, go!!


Okiegal Says:

@Green Lady…..I am listening to golden oldies and I just now heard Georgy Girl and guess who I immediately thought of??? My fellow Rafa fan across the vast pond!! Every time I hear it, I think of you…….keep posting my dear!! Have a good week-end!!


Green Lady Says:

Okie and J-Kath thankyou so much my dear ethereal friends ;-)) ….


AndyMira Says:

Hope rafa will not be put at the same section as kyrgios,this kid scares me with his serves..


Dave Says:

I want to see Nadal vs Federer. I think that’s fair after Federer got to play their last match on indoor hard courts in his home tournament. I honestly don’t think Federer will even miss a beat from where he was pre-injury. He doesn’t seem to need to play to be match ready.


AndyMira Says:

Yeah Dave..it’s going to be an interesting match to see[if they have a chance that is]..roger with his ‘new knee’ and rafa with his ‘you know what’..who’s gonna come out on top?


Dave Says:

I hope Nadal. haha. I want a Nole vs Nadal gladiator match afterwards.


Dave Says:

AndyMira,

What do you want so see happen?


AndyMira Says:

@Dave..do you hate roger that much?And do you wants to see rafa suffered another defeat by novak?Dave..you!!


AndyMira Says:

Dave..of course i want to see rafa win again..and by dueling with novak like you wish..nothing can satisfy me except for him to make a big statement to the world that he still not a lost cause..although from rafa’s words,he himself still didn’t believe at this point that he can beat novak..well we will see Dave..by the way,are you excited to know the draw?


Dave Says:

Haha. No I don’t hate Roger. I like Rafa more, that’s all. Plus, if Rafa were to lose to Roger on Rafa’s best surface and Roger’s worst surface, that might crush his confidence even more. I have never hidden my preferences on this forum. Roger is my least favorite of the Big 4, if we are still calling it that. I can’t wait to see the draw. I don’t think any of the top players want Thiem in the 4th round on clay especially. He will be looking to get a big win.


RF Says:

What we as viewers tend to forget that the tennis is a game of a few points, and all it takes is to lose a few points in a close match which you then end up losing. And once you lose those close matches, that mental edge , that 1% that gets added to your game is suddenly lost. The tie-breakers that you used to win, you are now losing. The matches that you used to win 7-6 7-6 , you’re now losing 6-7 6-7.

That mental edge is a state of equilibrium that once you achieve makes you invincible, but when you lose, makes you look mortal.


AndyMira Says:

He!he!Dave..relax..i’m just kidding you..and i also agree with you regarding Thiem..as selfish as i am..i’m also hopeful that he’s not landing on rafa’s section..posting him to novak’s..not that i hate novak Dave but more to give novak a stiff competition and to see Thiem challenge novak since he has the potential to upset him..


AndyMira Says:

Also very much agree with RF..


Dave Says:

I hope Andy does better this tournament as well. I hope he makes the final. I hope to see a few epic matches, that would be awesome. You seemed like you were kidding AndyMira. Now you confirmed it.


AndyMira Says:

Dave,i couldn’t agree more about andy..God..i wish very much for him to step up his game and win it as well..it pained me to see him always come short especially against novak..besides if he win..margot wants to buy me flower and chocolate..she promised..he!he!


Van Persie Says:

Hi AM,

Looks like we have to wait a little bit more for the MC draw :)


AndyMira Says:

Hey VP,how are you today babe?Yeah..as you can see..me and Dave already start our much needed discussion about MC draw..it’s good now you can join us VP..although i bet,right now Dave is in dreamland somewhere..


Van Persie Says:

AM,

Well, I am happy, enjoyng my Saturday morning coffee ;)….Life is beautiful during weekends :)
hehe, you are talking about the draw since Thursday, if I remember well ;)
I hope to see a Nole-Zverev or Nole-Kyrgios match next week

How are you today, dear AM?


Michael Says:

Alison @ 7.40 am,

I discerned it only from your writing style !!

But, I am not sure why are you looking frustrated with Novak’s dominance !?

Having seen Tennis all these years, you will agree there are phases in which players overwhelmingly dominate and you can do nothing about it. You have to only graciously acknowledge the efforts and talent that goes to achieve such distinction which is remarkable in any Sport as to dominate is not an easy job.

We had the Fedal phase earlier and now Novak. But, the difference here is that the Novak’s domination is more complete than Fedal’s supremacy.

I agree if there is anything that kills interest in sport, it is certainty. But, then we have to enjoy what is on the table and appreciate the reasons behind such certainty !!


AndyMira Says:

Hey back VP..hahaha..very funny VP!..yeah..you’re right..it’s been a week and everyday we just talking about nothing in particular[although important]but i’ve long to discussed something that most dear to us all..TOURNAMENT..you forgot to add babe..we’re also longed to see Nole vs Thiem?God..their match must be a cracker..by the way..i’m fine VP..thank you for asking VP..it’s good to lazying around after the hard work all week yes?


Van Persie Says:

Nole vs Thiem would be awesome, but we have seen them in Miami….Andy vs Thiem would be nice.
Nole never played Kyrgios, that’s why I want to see them….even if clay is not Nick’s favorite sourface.


Van Persie Says:

Would also like to see Rafa vs Kyrgios on clay, I guess there was no match on clay


AndyMira Says:

Yeah VP..rafa vs kyrgios..it’s gonna be awesome..oh God..so much match that we can’t wait to see..by the way VP..you still didn’t answer my yesterday’s question..i want to add you on my FB,if you don’t want to give yours..then check it out mine..MIRA ANDI..there’s a lot of rafa’s picture in there..it’s been a honour to add you as my friend VP..besides,you said you want to get married this year and i want to send you a card..PLEASSSEEEE!!


Van Persie Says:

AM,

Sorry, I did not know you asked for FB….perhaps I skipped bh mystake the question….

well, I deactivated some years ago my FB account. The problem is: I was not very active ,all my friends are posting theyr private live there, I felt always guilty for not paying attention on it…forgot to congratulate some for theyr byrthdays :D…if I do not have the account active, I have good reasons to forget ;)..or I hated it, when they congratulated me on FB, then I had to spend some time on replying the messages from FB…

I am reinstating my account only once in a while…next time when I will do that, you will get a friend request from me. I promise ;)


AndyMira Says:

Really VP!Oh God i love you!!Thank you VP..i thought when you’re not respond to my request yesterday,that’s because you’re a very private person and don’t want to relate with any of the posters here..i can understand that..i myself is a very private person VP..i didn’t even use a real name..just use the name like my moniker’s here..just switch it a little bit..besides,i mean it when i said i want to send you a card when you get married VP..by the way..thank you once again VP..it mean a great deal to me..


Pauly Says:

Nadal vs Djokovic slugfest is what I miss most
Not Djokovic’s fault but Nadal is nothing like before
Can’t see anyone beating Djokovic on clay but imagine he won all three Masters events but lost at Roland garros ?
That would be bad … My advice to Djokovic focus on Paris


Van Persie Says:

AM,

No need to thank me. It is not such a big, big deal ;)


AndyMira Says:

VP..it is for me..


Van Persie Says:

AM,

I could find only one Mira Andi, no photos from Rafa there. Are U Arsenal fan?:)


AndyMira Says:

Yes i am VP..i don’t put any photo’s on the cover up there..


J-Kath Says:

The draw is out.


J-Kath Says:

Tennis X – How about a new thread given that the draw is now available?


J-Kath Says:

OK folks here’s a summary:

Going by the Seeds:
NOLE starts against Vesely or Gabashulli
Ferrer in quarters
Federer in Semis
…………..
FEDERER starts against Belluci or Garcia-Lopez
Tsonga in quarters
Nole in semis
…………………
ANDY starts against Guido Pella or qualifier
Benoit Paire 3rd round
Berdych or Raonic in quarters
Nadal in semis
…………
NADAL starts against Bedene or Rosol
Stan W. in quarters
Murray in semis
………………
And STAN
Starts against Coric or Philip Kohlschreiber
Nadal in quarters
Murray in semis.


Van Persie Says:

AM,

I asked you in order to know, that it is the right Mira Andi.
Thiem could play Rafa in the 4 round….


Dave Says:

Did Kyrgios pull out? Anyone else notice that he wasn’t in the draw? and why?


Van Persie Says:

Dave,

Just wanted to ask the same..I cannot see him on the draw…and no news about pulling out either…


jalep Says:

No Australians or North Americans (except Milos); no Asians, except Taro Daniel, in either qualifying or main draw.

… Just noticed. Very European/South American.


Green Lady Says:

Michael @ April 9th 2.02am, there is nothing in my post i dont stick by, but ill leave it at that now, nothing more to add, i just hope for a well contested MC tournament now, i do go off in a rant sometimes apologies for that, and thankyou for not attacking me personally, or telling me to leave like certain people did ….


Green Lady Says:

Hi Jalep ….


jalep Says:

I missed something, Green Lady?


jalep Says:

Green Lady – You’ve been on my mind again. Was wondering what if anything you listen to for meditating?


jalep Says:

Forgot to say… Hi GL! I’m acting like Sharapova! 😮😄


AndyMira Says:

VP..yes..it is the right MIRA ANDI..and now i put my picture wearing red t shirt for you to recognize it..sorry took too long to respond to you..somethings came up earlier..

And regarding Thiem and rafa..double s@#$@#$%%^%#..why oh why rafa always got the tough opponent..i don’t know…and if he survived stan,how am i going to support both of my heroes?Hate it!!


Green Lady Says:

Jalep i listen to CDs, they vary alot, from the Native American Sioux Drums, a Shaman talking, Fairy Meditation, to name but a few, i also do Tai-Chi, Yoga, mindful meditation, crystal healing, Reiki, tree hugging, people here would probably think im as mad as a March hare lol ….

Im glad your here, as Novaks your favorite, but you still talk tennis and other players, which is refreshing, i was attacked by someone, because i said there had been too much Novak talk ….

I will have some more course work to do soon, so ill be taking another break, but ill always be back like some bad penny, theres only a couple of posters here i dont get on with, whom are best ignored, i dont care about them though, CHEERS JALEP ;-))….


Green Lady Says:

Jalep lol, your nothing like Sharapova, your very well liked on here, and your much prettier ;-))….


jalep Says:

Green Lady – meditation is older than dirt. Predates any religion, philosophy, and is essential and natural – well, that’s my opinion, GL. Many forms of meditation – too:

I like ancient sanskrit mantras (monks chanting) at times – they help my anxiety a lot! Without the mantras – just sounds helps for sleep. Drums can be energizing. Was going to post a link to Dueter Nada Himalaya for you — just metal crystal bowls – no chanting.

Match of the day is on. Ostapenko v Giorgi…


Okiegal Says:

Looked at Nick’s schedule and Estoril is next, then Madrid and Rome. MC wasn’t on his schedule in the first place…..


Wog Boy Says:

I am warming up to Goran Ivanisevic, he is becoming biggest Nole fan, this what he said to Croatian “Jutarnji” papers:

“Ne vidim ko ga može dobiti. Postao je dosadan, u tenisu nikada niko nije tako dominirao. Može izgubiti jedino od samoga sebe, ako se klonira. Predložio sam mu da ode na krstarenje na dve godine i kada se vrati, opet će biti prvi. Očekujem da će osvojiti Rolan Garos i prestići Federera po broju Grand Slamova. Ma šta prestići, ako bude zdrav, ‘odraće’ ga”, u svom stilu poručio je Ivanišević za Jutarnji.

I will try to translate for you, roughly:
” I don’t see who can beat Djokovic, he became boring, nobody ever dominated tennis as he is doing now. I suggested to Nole to go away for two years and when he comes back he will be #1 again. I expect him to win FO and overtake Federer’s 17 slams, but wait, he won’t just overtake Federer, he will skin him (Federer) alive, as long as he (Nole) stays healthy!”

But who is Goran (and the rest) when we have more knowledgeable posters here on TX;)


Van Persie Says:

WB,

Thank you very much for this information. I always liked Goran and was very happy when he finally won the Wimbledon. Because of that I am sue, that Nole will once win the FO ;)

AM,

you can only have a foto from Rafa there, you do not have to use a picture of you :)

Have a song for you, AM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UmFFTkjs-O0

Am off now, have to go out


Giles Says:

Lol” skin him ( Federer) alive”. Since when do people take much notice of what Goran says?


Green Lady Says:

Dont exactly agree about that (still nothing new there i suppose !), personally i wanted Pat to win Wimbledon was gutted he missed out ….


Van Persie Says:

Personally I do not give a Scheisse what you think, am actually moe interested in your hobbies and way of life


Green Lady Says:

Cheers Van Persie, errr i think ?, i suppose it was a compliment well sort of ?, anyway thats what we are here to do, agree or disagree, and we are all entitled to our opinions supposedly ….


jalep Says:

Green Lady, Thanks for your words @ 10:06. Glad you like me around – I like you around, too.

Didn’t know about you being attacked. I don’t read all the posts anymore – not even close. It’s best that way. You are a much better communicator and more personable than me!

Nole ole is it right now. Rafa’s grip on Clay seemed like an eternity — and it might not be over. Federer, yeah – him too — got very old. Serena – same.

You know me. I’m always on a bunch of bandwagons – ATP and the last few years, WTA.

I just wish someone would watch these matches with me 🙂 Cibulkova is in a the other Katowice semi final right now. I made fresh coffee ☕🍵


Van Persie Says:

Totally agree.By the way, You should think of having a forum of your own


Van Persie Says:

12:08 for GL


AndyMira Says:

Yes VP..why i didn’t think of that earlier is beyond me..silly me!Anyway VP..my internet is so slow,so i can’t watch the video now..and don’t have any idea what’s in the video..so can’t comment much about it..sorry okay?Maybe when my internet fast again i’m sure will say something about it..


Green Lady Says:

Jalep thanks for that, doubt many of your fellow fans would agree, but who cares ? lol, and i would think your more respected and interact more than i do with people, i largely get ignored alot ….

Anyway about the WTA, most of the tournies arent televised where i am, so i think id be more interested if i could watch some matches ….


Green Lady Says:

Van Persie i doubt it somehow, you have to have alot more knowledge to run your own forum, which is very much me out of that equation ….


jalep Says:

Really, no tennis broadcasts where you are, GL? Well, it’s only a 280 in Poland – but the draw was better than what the ATP had to offer this week. Hoping for a Cibby v Giorgi Final.

I’m sure you’ll have Monte Carlo, right? Stuttgart is a big WTA tournament next week.

Nada Himalaya by Deuter — have not been doing enough meditating the past 2 years. I go in streaks – when I do, though, people around me seem to like me better. Helps calm me down and gives me patience – among other virtues that don’t come easily. Posting links gets me moderated, I think 😯

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOqra3oxbDY

Next time: Abba or Hugh Jackman for you.


Green Lady Says:

Jalep i tell a lie though they are televised but on channels i dont actually get, some of the smaller tournies, but not much else, only the GS ….

And thanks for the meditation link, im in my element listening to that, i wish we lived near each other, as you would fit it well with the group i go to, we do a guided meditation at the end of each session ….

I Think i would get down on my hands and knees, crawling throUgh broken glass to get anywhere near that man, and to think his grandmother is from Norwich in my part of the world, and he was here only a few weeks ago, and i missed him, GUTTED LOL ….


jalep Says:

😂 I couldn’t figure out what/who you were talking about with the crawling through broken glass, GL.

Was thinking about meditating, the Dalai Lama, Rafa, who?

You mean Hugh Jackman 😂 cough…cough…

Yes, we have a lot in common – would love a guided meditation in the real world. There are ways to do it online – but there’s nothing quite like other humans, hey? What a world we live in. Laughter helps. Bird watching saves me this time of year and I don’t have to go far. Have to ignore male duck behavior, however …what’s new…lol…

Waiting for Sean Randall to come up with his MC draw analysis.


Green Lady Says:

Jalep ive never bird watched, or twitching as we call it over here, we actually a reserve not far from where we live, would love to give it a go though, we spend our evenings down the beach metal detecting, when we have spare time ….

If you like the Dalai Lama, his book in Pursuit Of Happyness is a great read ….

OH And theres a MC thread up now ….


J-Kath Says:

GL – Ah! Metal detecting…As a geologist Walter liked his kit too…got most finds abroad though. Gave his detector to a nephew – should have kept it…my beach is wonderfully two minutes away…ah well! In the summer I loved paddling there after 9.00pm.


Green Lady Says:

J-Kath youd be surprised at what you find ;-)) ….

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