Djokovic, Nadal Lead Blockbuster Saturday Semis at Madrid
by Staff | May 7th, 2016, 12:33 am
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Novak Djokovic vs. Kei Nishikori? Rafael Nadal vs. Andy Murray?


It’s on!

The semifinals were set on Friday at the Mutua Madrid Masters as the cream rose to the top.

Djokovic made Milos Raonic his locker room b***h, improving to 7-0 vs. the Canuck with a 6-3, 6-4 win.

“One of the keys of the match was getting as many returns back in play as possible,” Djokovic said. “I knew that before I stepped on the court that I should not give him too many free points on his serve. That’s where the big servers get a lot of confidence. I returned exceptionally well.”

Nadal’s battle was much more draining, beating a resilient Joao Sousa 6-0, 4-6, 6-3.

Murray beat Nadal in last year’s final, but the Brit has lost his last two meetings with the Spaniard.

“We know each other very well,” Nadal said of Murray. “It’s a question of playing my best, and if I am playing my best, I hope to have my chances. If not, it will be almost impossible…Last year he won here, so he knows how to play very well here. That’s a great level that he’s playing.”

Nadal is on a 13-match winning streak after winning Monte Carlo and Barcelona. He is looking to win an Open Era record 50th claycourt title and a fifth Madrid crown.

Djokovic leads the head-to-head with Nishikori 7-2 and has won the last six meetings.

Nadal is 17-6 vs. Murray and has won the last two.


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266 Comments for Djokovic, Nadal Lead Blockbuster Saturday Semis at Madrid

Pauly Says:

Nishikori will be tired after his long match
Djokovic in straight sets
Nadal hopefully it won’t rain or else Murray in straight sets of its indoor
Rafa needs the sun for spin to work
It the room didn’t close he would have won 6-0 6-0
Can’t play indoors
He needs the Elements for his spin
Hoping for Djokovic vs Nadal final
But thinking Murray more likely


Van Persie Says:

yep Pauly, I expect Nole to win in 2 sets today.

Go Andy!


anki Says:

Novak’s returning was on fire yesterday, still should serve well if he is to beat Kei confortably. It will be a tight battle between both of them. If the roof is not closed Rafa will beat Andy in two, if yes, then may be in three or Andy will nick it.


Dave Says:

It would be nice to see Andy Win, but I haven’t seen him be able to mentally hold it together against one of his main rivals maybe since the Rogers Cup against Nole. I’m picking Nadal to win.


Michael Says:

I do not see Andy beating Rafa or Nishikori getting the better of Novak.

Folks, tighten your belts for another marquee final round up between the two time tested Gladiators which must be an enchanting and enthralling prospect in store where both would fancy to win to gain the momentum ahead of the all important Rolland Garros especially for Novak who has never won here and who hopes to do this year positively.


J-Kath Says:

Rafa played well indoors at WTF.


Giles Says:

Go Kei!


Pauly Says:

Nadal won’t beat Djokovic in the final
I can’t see him holding his serve against the best returner Djokovic
His serve is his Achilles heel but other aspects of his game have improved
Nadal needs the sun to spin it past Djokovic
Should they meet
It’s no certainty Nadal will win but Djokovic will crush Nishikori


Pauly Says:

Nishikori isn’t good enough to beat the big boys of tennis
Djokovic Nadal Murray Federer Wawrinka at their best
But he can beat the others
I told everyone last time only reason Nishikori was beating Nadal last year as were others was Coz Nadal was way below his best level
Nadal’s level isn’t 2010 or 2013 level
It’s about 2014 level which is competitive


Margot Says:

Would be surprised if Kei gets a set TBH. He had a slow start yesterday and his forehand has been off this tourney, and Nole looked extremely focused and really terrific against Milos. As As for Andy…..well does one dare to hope?


Green Lady Says:

Margot i dont think Rafas quite back to his best, Andy has looked superb far ,as for Rafa, didnt see yesterdays match, but it seemed Rafa laboured through that one, so i would think yesterdays Andy will beat yesterdays Rafa ….


Margot Says:

GL: Yeah but….how often have we thought that, only for the day before yesterday Andy to turn up and tomorrow’s Rafa….:’(


chrisford1 Says:

This is the two delighted billionaire’s Semis, along other things.
While the WTA flopped at Madrid, the ATP delivered again. And now Ion Tiraic has two great matches waiting, and his young friend back in the fold at Madrid. No waiting on 12 years like Indian Wells did to see Williams come back..
And the richest man in Japan, Tadashi Yanai (24Billion) , once again gets to see the two tennis players he personally selected to hoist the UniQlo brand – meeting again in another big marquee event.


chrisford1 Says:

BTW – While woman’s tennis by and large was being 2nd rate, with another mass die-off of seeded players – they should have a great final at least. With well-liked Halep and adorable ‘lil pocket rocket Domi Cibulkova. Both women are fun to watch, especially if they get in the zone.


calmdownplease Says:

Indeed Margot dear.
I think the conditions and form are really with Andy but if he mentally collapses A.G.A.I.N!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He can get stuffed, really.
Love the new zingy 2nd serve, however, and really he was all over Nadal at the MC to begin with. But then, as I expected, as we ALL expected, the serve took the inevitable turn for the worst (where was it then, mentalism?), and Mr MTO Nadal played his usual nonsense (looking forward to his retirement, that’s for sure!) to take the third set in a canter while the easily distracted one collapsed, again!
His signature move it has to be said.
He’s easily the mentally weaker of the four (hence the embarrassingly small amount of slams compared to his immediate contemporary), and they all know it.
Can he FINALLY snap out of it and stay resolute an entire match against the big 3?
When push comes to shove he is always predictable nowadays and since the surgery.
29th year coming up to boot.
What a waste!
But it’s his talent to waste when all is said and done.
I’m certainly not going to be that bothered about it anymore when he clearly isn’t…
(still c’mon Muzz!)
Another thing re Rafa, no way is he coming back if he gets through Muzz.
And he isn’t back either, the ship has sailed.
The strange redundant nature of his continued presence in tennis will be emphasized yet again by the player who has utterly replaced him on the tour.
There’s no need for Nadal anymore as far as I’m concerned.
Sorry!
;0)


Jasmin O Says:

N2 final. Nadal vs Nishikori. Nadal wins in 2 sets


George Says:

Nadal vs Murray will be a cracking match from technical and tactical standpoint. Can Murray control Nadal’s spin? Djokovic to me looks so impressive at the moment. If Djokovic vs Nadal happens, it would be titanic encounter.


calmdownplease Says:

`If Djokovic vs Nadal happens, it would be titanic encounter.’

NOVAK IN STRAIGHT SETS.


Green Lady Says:

CDP im not saying he will win another GS, but Rafa just won B2B CC titles,so i dont think hes quite done yet ….


calmdownplease Says:

Yes!
And while the cat was away and against some inexplicable Muzz and other players performances…
By his lofty standards, I think he is ‘quite done’ actually
But as i often say we shall soon see.
In a matter of months really…


calmdownplease Says:

*or weeks even…


Green Lady Says:

Strange that evidently, the only way Nadal can win a title is because everyone of his opponents was playing crap, thats not luck its beyond all reason ….


anki Says:

Over confident Novak fans, smh..


Okiegal Says:

I’m so excited, I just can’t hide it 🎤🎵🎶🎶……watching the match on my new cable one channel! I can see the lines………even……I hope RAfa can. VAMOS!


Daniel Says:

Murray insisting on Nadal’s BH until he misses, 2-1.

Cdo,

Also noticed that his second serve has more “zing” as yiu said, ball getting more deeper and spin. Hope he can protect it better, would give him extra moral.


Daniel Says:

Murray with an early break


Pauly Says:

Murray looks too strong
This place suits his game
He thrashed Nadal last year
Looking to do it agajn


Pauly Says:

Nadal’s serve is his Achilles heel


Daniel Says:

Murray’s first percentage is awful, below 40%. BP Nadal


FedExpress Says:

some who thought that rafa ist back after winning MC and barcelona are deluded. nadal playing average tennis and the other ones imploding


Pauly Says:

Murray will win in straight sets


FedExpress Says:

just like MC murray will win 1st set and disappear in the next two


Pauly Says:

The old Nadal will never be back
Nadal is improving the new version of Nadal
Please don’t say he’s back Coz this is 2016 not 2010 or 2013
He needs to improve a lot more before we can say he’s grand slam material


FedExpress Says:

hahahahha that FH

into the net


FedExpress Says:

murray is an idiot wihtout a serve

2 BPs for nadal without doing anything


Wog Boy Says:

Andy’s BH is not firing today. He is too tense.


FedExpress Says:

wow. breaks back.

murray will remain a mental midget who has his pants full when he face the top 3


Pauly Says:

Finally some life from Nadal
Come on make it better match


Daniel Says:

Nadal gets the break back. 4-5

Murray needs to improve first serve percentage, even with him protecting his second serve better, winning more than 60% of those.


Pauly Says:

George

Djokovic will win the title


Daniel Says:

Murray having to win the same point three times😜


Daniel Says:

30-30. Important point


Wog Boy Says:

Murray needs FHDTL, and to keep moving Rafa.


Pauly Says:

The only reason Djokovic is playing Madrid is too try & zap Nadal’s confidence by beating him again if they play
He can’t let Nadal’s confidence go sky high or else
Nadal will have belief agajn
Belief is powerful word it means Nadal will play much better in time for Paris


FedExpress Says:

something has to be wrong with murrays 1st service action

abnormal that he is most of the times under 50 % and todays even under 40 %


Daniel Says:

Last 2 times he served Murray faced BP, 30-30


FedExpress Says:

for his height murray cant produce power shots


Wog Boy Says:

Rocket FH by Rafa.


FedExpress Says:

murray is a done and shut case


Daniel Says:

He hold, at least guarantee tiebreak. Now one more ahot to break, close the set and start serving first second set.

If he loses this set, bye bye.


Wog Boy Says:

I thing it is mental thing, the serve.


FedExpress Says:

first set murray

but with that fragile serve its only a matter of time that


FedExpress Says:

hahahhahahaha
nadal with more winners than murray


Pauly Says:

Nadal serve didn’t win one point on it
Murray is now pumped


Pauly Says:

Bye bye Nadal

Get ready for Djokovic in Rome quarters
Hopefully you’ll have time to work in your Serve
Pathetic serve


FedExpress Says:

40% 1st serve and 9w-1ue

and somehow wins the set


Daniel Says:

Both times Murray broke he was 0-40 in Nadal’s game so he is creating his chances.
Let’s see if we’ll have a repeat of MC or Madrid final last year, basically which Murray shows up.


FedExpress Says:

hahahhaha

murray cant find the killer shot


Pauly Says:

Daniel

Lightning can’t strike twice
Murray is lucky Nadal’s serve is do fragile


FedExpress Says:

murrays 1st serve % arent good though


jalep Says:

A thunderstorm passing through last night has knocked out my satellite – appreciate match comments and updates!

FedEX and Pauly are hilarious…united front fatalists 😄


Pauly Says:

Massive hold Murray
Nadal had his chances


Pauly Says:

Jalep

Do you think Nadal is capable of winning another slam ?
Not after today’s defeat


Green Lady Says:

Jeez the match aint even finished yet, thank goodness your here Jalep, some of these posts are beyond irritating ….


Okiegal Says:

The difference today…..Andy hanging tough during key points….Rafa not so much…..


Pauly Says:

Green lady

Murray will win in straight sets
If you’re in denial it’s ok
I’m moving on


Daniel Says:

Murray needs to keep improve first serve in order to at least finish the match on 50%.

Nadal is in a lot of his service games and the only ones Murray was in were the ones he break, which is good for hos confiance. But he got protrct his serve better amd add extra pressure in Nadal who is behind all match. Once the set gest closer to an end of both holds Nadal can feel it again as set 1.


Pauly Says:

Andy will win French open


FedExpress Says:

pure choke that was from murray.


jalep Says:

I do think Rafa is capable of winning another GS, or two. Thanks for asking. Kinda depends on some stars aligning in the right way, tho…but I can’t count him out for FO or USO/AO. Wimbledon would be surprising. He’s just barely 30. The field of competition is still manageable: young guns not ready to threaten, old guns too old, Wawrinka possibly out to permanent lunch with Donna Vekic…

Time is running out but still a chance this year and next. Glass half full talking.


Dave Says:

Nadal is totally in this match still. I still don’t expect Murray to win. I hope he holds it together. But it’s reminding me of Monte Carlo all over again.


Green Lady Says:

@8.45am Sorry not interested ….


FedExpress Says:

atm Fed has more chances of winning a GS than nadal. last time nadal even reached a GS SF was in 2014 at the FO


Wog Boy Says:

It looks like “Nole’s overhead” is very popular, even Andy is copying Nole..


Dave Says:

Wow. Murray has saved a lot of break points today.


Wog Boy Says:

Andy is walking tight rope.


Dave Says:

3-2 Murray. Exactly like Monte Carlo. Let’s see if he can finish this time.


Okiegal Says:

That pathetic serve has won him soooo many titles….I imagine there are lots of other players who would like his pathetic serve…..


Daniel Says:

Murray’s cross courr drop shot are impecable today


Daniel Says:

Bad miss Murray he could hit two hand
BH imstead of going for lobby. It would give him BP


FedExpress Says:

wow murray nearly choke that BP


Wog Boy Says:

Daniel,
He was doing them against Berdych and Simon too, very effectively.


Daniel Says:

Even so, Murray got the break, 4-2. Now let’s see if he holds.
Nadal will want to break back right away. Andy’s second serve win was from 62 to 49%, Nadal
Is winning more and more on his second serve so he better watch out.

As I type, another second serve point won by Nadal. 0-15


Daniel Says:

WB, something for team Djoko to pay attention to, drop shots when well executed are a weapon on clay.


FedExpress Says:

hahahahahah
LMAO that smash

2 BPs for nadal


Pauly Says:

Dave

Stop dreaming
Murray in straight sets like I predicted
He was very impressive this week
Nadal was struggling


Daniel Says:

Missed smash that can cost him the match, instead of 30-30, 15-40😱


Dave Says:

You are right Wog Boy. Murray is imitating Djokovic big time. Another big miss. Here comes the come back now.


Okiegal Says:

Rafa is picking up some tough shots…..


Wog Boy Says:

Another “Nole overhead” by Andy..


Daniel Says:

Brave Murray, I particular don’t like the use of drop shots down break point. Too risky.


Dave Says:

Murray gets a time violation? Nadal was taking soooooooo much extra time every time his serve was under pressure. I was timing it and nothing. wow.


Okiegal Says:

The droppa has been good to Andy today….but the smash….not so good…..


jalep Says:

Fed has more chance than Rafa? FedEX? 😯


Daniel Says:

Game Murray.

Wouldn’t surprised me if he broke to close again. Better than having to serve for the match😜


Wog Boy Says:

This was brave hold by Andy.


Dave Says:

0 for 7 on break points for Nadal. He is trying do his best Thiem impression today I guess.


Daniel Says:

Dave,

Nadal already got a time vpiolation in set 1


Okiegal Says:

This is Andy’s match….can he trudge on and take it to Novak, if he beats Kei?


Dave Says:

Oh okay. I must of missed that. Thanks for letting me know Daniel.


Green Lady Says:

Jalep but Feds been in some GS finals, Rafa aint made a GS final since he won RG in 2014, hate to say it, but have to agree with Fedexpress on this one ….


Daniel Says:

jalep,

Fed has 3 Slams finals since Nadal last contested his last final/title/semis, so in a way, yes.


Dave Says:

Murray almost messed up 3 overheads in a row. Wow.


Daniel Says:

15-30, Murray 2 points away. Crunch time for both.


Daniel Says:

Wrongfoot insode out, awesome shot.


Okiegal Says:

Rafa has had his chances, but Andy has been mentally strong today…..that is good to see…..


Pauly Says:

Murray won’t beat Djokovic
No way


Daniel Says:

Murray will have to do it the hard way, serve for the match. Time to get one of those aces, he got a few down BO today.


FedExpress Says:

moment of truth now


Daniel Says:

When he served for set 1 he was broken


Pauly Says:

My prediction was spot on
But I was hoping for longer match
Murray too good today
Runner up is ok
Djokovic will win


Daniel Says:

Murray choose wrongly, 15-30.


FedExpress Says:

hahahahaha

again wrong side chosen

this clown will never learn


Daniel Says:

Nadal’s drops abandon him today. Bad shot selection by him


Daniel Says:

MP


FedExpress Says:

still time for murray to choke this


FedExpress Says:

BP nadal


Daniel Says:

2 UE long DTL. Damn
BP


Daniel Says:

What a serve. This is impressive with today, he hit excellent serves when down


FedExpress Says:

break nadal

choke job started


Pauly Says:

Unbelievable Murray
Nadal 13 break points finally got one


Daniel Says:

And he netted the easiest shot.

Boy if he loses this will be an epic choke, he made 5 or 6 UR this game alone.
He can still break back with his return game. That’s what he needs desperatly.


jalep Says:

Alright…if you say so, Daniel and FedEx. Fed has yet to get in the mix in a convincing way this year. I’m skeptical. But you have a point.

Proud of Andy right now. If he wins, it’s huge for him and he needs to defend these points and stay #2.

Oh Andy …it’s not over yet. Thanks for that dropper fail, Rafa. 4th one for Rafa today.

Match point. Andy serving…2nd serve…shooot. lol…no. deuce. ad Rafa. I’m going to curse. Deuce! try again – No Good, Andy. AD Rafa.
Sh!T. Omg.

Back on serve….

and my TV reception working just in time!


Daniel Says:

2 UE by Nadal, just what Murray needed. 15-30


Wog Boy Says:

Now Rafa is doing “Nole’s overhead”.


Daniel Says:

Wow, mureay doing to Nadal what Nadal does to
His opponent, putting always another ball back until Nadal decide to homage Djoko and miss a smash as well.


Wog Boy Says:

Very brave fight by Andy, congrats to his fans and commiserations to Rafa’s.


FedExpress Says:

lol. bye bye nadal


Pauly Says:

Damn fragile serve


Daniel Says:

This is a bizarre end for Nadal, he breaks win forat point and make 4 straight Unforced Errors not even exchange some shots. Kind of he felt rushed.

Still battling some mental demons.
Not back at all! The old Nadal would never loss in this fashion.


FedExpress Says:

nadal is back

to his 2015 worst


Okiegal Says:

Margot, “come out, come out where ever you are”…..this famous DiNiro quote follows after the DiNiro conversation yesterday……I love Robert too!

Good play from Andy today….congratulations to his fans! Come on Andy…..defend your title!!


George Says:

Nadal played very well, but Murray was better.


Dave Says:

Andy showed some toughness today. Good for him.


Daniel Says:

Murray virtually guarante for #2 seed in RG and chance to defend his title. First for him would be to defend a title on clay.

And join the club pf active player with 2 or more clay wins over Nadal: Djoko, Federer, Fognini, Verdasco and Murray.

Great result by Murray who is in contention for RG as well. Depending on how well he plays Djoko tomorrow. Would be very surprised of Kei wins later today.


Pauly Says:

Terrible mental lapse by Nadal in final game just gave the match away to Murray
Not the Nadal we know
He isn’t back
The old Nadal will never return it’s 2016 not 2010 or 2013
His confidence will take big hit today
Not looking good for Rome


Okiegal Says:

Thanks, Wogi…..Andy was tough today, what can I say? Should he meet Novak….he gonna have to be even tougher, no??


Margot Says:

YAAaaaaaaaYYYYYYY!!!!! Andy Murray you little beauty!!!!!!
Lol OK was behind the sofa for last two games, stomach knotted….phew!
Sorry for you and GL and other great Rafa fans on here.
But do hope a couple of posters who came on here, oh so briefly to rub Andy’s fans’ noses in it, will now pop on here and offer congratulations
Not holding my breath tho.


Okiegal Says:

On the brighter side….Rafa lost to the #2 in the world….not a tragedy…..could have been worse.


Green Lady Says:

Yeah well done Andy, you took your chances, Rafa didnt and wasnt clinical enough, hope he defends the title against most likely Novak in the final, Okie said on the other thread that De Niro is amazing as an actor, but has made some embarrasing films and should retire from acting i think ….


jalep Says:

Rafa isn’t at his 2015 worst! 😂 He lost again in Madrid. It’s not his best venue. Rafa at his 2015 worst woulda lost 2 and 2 or something. He’s still the top threat for FO. … imo.


skeezer Says:

Very good win for Murray today. Beating the former king of clay on clay is a great win for anybody.


FedExpress Says:

top threat for FO?!?!?!


Wog Boy Says:

Okie,
We are yet to see who is going to play Andy tomorrow, but he kept it together really well, didn’t collapse after not managing to serve the match out, kudos to Andy.


skeezer Says:

Margot,
Been meaning to ask you, what IS behind that sofa anyways? Is that where your tele is? ;)


Daniel Says:

Nadal to have any chance of getting the #4 seed for RG will have to reachnat least Rome finals and hope Wawrinka loses early. If Wawa wins 1 match in Rome Nadal willneed to win Rome to be #4 for Garros. Of Wawa reached finals Wawa #4.


Okiegal Says:

Margot, u should be very happy with Andy today….he was mentally there in tough points. I haven’t seen the stats, but I am curious about break point stat regarding Rafa….he had his chances. Hope Andy defends…..he is my second favorite!


Green Lady Says:

Margot cheers, but i love Andy too, so no worries, and not an excuse, but Madrid was never Rafas most successful CC tourney due to the altitude, as for RG, IMO Andy could be a dark horse ….


jalep Says:

Cheers, Green Lady – hope your handfasting last weekend was/is memorable and all you hoped and dreamed.

Andy was great today – hiccups, yes. Comedy of errors for both Rafa and Andy from what I saw when I finally got to watch, 2nd set.


Margot Says:

Thanks OK and GL :)
Skeeze, now you’re just being silly, sofa is miles away from TV, natch. In fact didn’t really need to watch – enormous cheers from Spanish crowd meant Rafa had won a point, dead silence meant Andy had. ;)


J-Kath Says:

Margot. Got the crystals out for about 5 mins. 3 or 4 times ….squeezed so hard got arthritis in my toes……well I never…thank goodness – at least Andy’s got to the final.

As for the “couple of posters who came on here, oh so briefly to rub Andy’s fans’ noses in it”…they are leaning over the toilet as we speak, trying to get rid of their bile.

Sorri NADAL fans….he couldn’t get the break point/break back working today.


George Says:

@Pauly: Nadal didn’t give Murray anything. He fought like a lion and was very tough, but lost against a better player on the day. Murray played technically very well and his backhand withstand Nadal’s spin. Murray was also psychologically ready for a long battle and did not collapse when he was not able to serve for a set/match. It is not that Nadal was subpar, it is that Murray played like a fully-deserving member of “Big 4″.


Dave Says:

George,

I couldn’t have said it better myself. Exactly.


Green Lady Says:

Jalep cheers darling, it was a beautiful day, i will see if i can find a decent picture, and use it for the FO bracket challenge, if you do one, or whomever does one ;-)) ….

Im not too dissapointed about Rafa, as Murray is my second favorite, hope he plays well tomorrow, and wins the title, and i think he also has a legitimate shot at RG too ….


Wog Boy Says:

Let me ho back to the top of the thread:
______
Giles Says:
Go Kei!
______

You see, it is not good to wish the other person to lose, it was more important for you to say “Go Kei” instead of “Vamos Rafa”, hate is not good, destroys brain (if you have any), we didn’t say “Go Andy”, we just watched and enjoyed the match, we don’t hate Rafa or any other player for that matter, we just love No1e!!


Margot Says:

George and Dave, scholars and gentlemen both, thank you kind sirs.
Kath: EEEEEEEKKKK! Pain in toe well worth it girl! Have my own pain in knotted stomach, also worth it!


Green Lady Says:

Wogboy true and not true, it works both ways, granted some are anyone but Nole, but some are also anyone but Rafa, although its more counter productive to want ones favorite to succeed rather than seeing their rivals fail, everytime Murray lost a point, it was all choke this or choke that ….


Colin Says:

Some among us find FedEx “hilarious”, but I find him a very large pain in the fundament, and think he should do the world a favour and take a long walk off a short pier. Andy, he says, is a “clown” who never learns. in view of the RESULT today (which is what matters), how come you never learn, ol’ buddy?


Wog Boy Says:

Margot,

What about me, I wasn’t rubishing Andy, it is not fair to single out only George and Dave..I am depressed now..


Green Lady Says:

Colin large pain in the fundament lol ….


J-Kath Says:

Margot: I was squeezing so hard….that the pain travelled all the way down…Nah…not even for Andy. I’m now holding the crystals to help your wee tummy.

Yes, I’m nodding away to myself in approval of George and Dave….we are so grateful, us Andy fans, for any kind word tossed in Andy’s direction…


Wog Boy Says:

JK,

You too (Brutus), I am really depressed now..


Giles Says:

this poster says “Beating the former king of clay on clay is a great win for anybody”. Lol.
” former king of clay”?? Really?? Who is the current king of clay then??
Give it up man. How is Fed’s back or is it his knee?


Van Persie Says:

My wish came true. Andy won. ;)
Happy for him


Jun Says:

Congratulations to Andy and his fans!
Big 4 it is indeed.


Green Lady Says:

Jun have you been here before, with a different monikor, you seem familiar ? …


Giles Says:

Didn’t watch Rafa’s match today. Can anybody tell me whether Andy Murray behaved himself today or was he arguing about umbrellas? Oh I forgot, he only pulls tantrums when he is losing.


Pauly Says:

George

Nadal had chances to force two tiebreaks
Murray wasn’t playing that well
Nadal just didn’t take his chances
That’s key to winning close matches
Take your chances or else it’s bye bye
Rafa won’t be happy after today
He might change his surname to Rafa Thiem


Okiegal Says:

I will agree with Skeezer….it is a great win for Andy. Who did Andy play in the finals last year….Margot??

Yes, WB he did hold it together. His fans should be very proud of him!


Okiegal Says:

@Colin…..you just took one of my favorite little sayings….I almost said earlier to Mr. Tacky Pants….to take a long walk on a short pier! I could not believe I just read that. I am behind on comments……watching Rafa and now cleaning out the fridge. I had to laugh….great minds run in the same circle or same channel….


Okiegal Says:

I can watch dubs now and I do love a good dubs match. Tennis channel network rocks! 🆗


Green Lady Says:

Okie or go and play marbles on the M25 ….


J-Kath Says:

WB: You are not forgotten. We thought you might be in bed recovering from your alcoholic haze so didn’t want to disturb you.

Your wee laddie is on soon…he’ll win so fast, he’ll likely make you giddy…take care.


Green Lady Says:

J-Kath, Leicester City get the trophy after todays match against Everton, so im taking a rain check on Novak /Kei and tennis just this once shh ….


skeezer Says:

Giles,
You are observant ;)
Yes I did not mean the greatest Clay courter of all time, Mr. Rafael Nadal. I meant the present king of clay who is Nole. Watch and see…..


jane Says:

missed the match… haven’t read thread.
so does this mean andy is #2 for the FO? or is it still an open race? what about rafa? can he reach #4 for FO?


Green Lady Says:

Clay is the inferior surface ?, and RG is the poor mans GS ?, clay titles, and GS dont count ?, well according to some, so why on earth is Novak so bothered about winning it then ?, cant see the point !, what a total contradiction ! ….


RZ Says:

Yay Andy! Good news to wake up to.


George Says:

@Pauly: Strategy against Rafa is to “play his backhand until he plays forehand from backhand and then hit him with deep forehand”. This is easy to say, difficult to do, as your balls have to be deep on backhand and you have to be able to withstand spin from forehand on your backhand. Murray had technical and tactical ability to do that, not to crack and this is why he won. For Rafa to prevent serving out 2 crucial games was monumental effort that required a period of recuperation afterwards, which was unavoidable. Murray didn’t panic when he lost these two games and continue fighting toe to toe and was able to execute his strategy. Rafa have 2 problems (relative problems for that level) in his game 1) Serve and 2) Backhand as relative weakness. Murray directed his efforts on these two points and won. Rafa’s main strength is incredible forehand (spin in particular), but Andy’s backhand was technically very good and was able to sustain everything. He was just better player today.


Vami Says:

I wrote a post (nothing nasty, just called a spade a spade) where I agreed with WG’s (9:53) mentioning of a certain poster that does nothing but spreads hate towards Novak. My post got deleted by “Staff” (hello Sean). Suddenly, instead of my post the hater I mentioned started posting, and he was a little bit more civilized than usual.

You don’t need to be Einstein to figure out that the hater is a part of this blog? He’s just “Staff’s” decoy to attack Novak. Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, or should I say Sean and Giles?


Daniel Says:

Jane, Nadal has to make at least Rome finals to have a chance at #4 and hope
wawa loses earlythat of coirse if Kei doesn’t end up winning Madrid, because if he do so he alwo will have a shot at #4 for RG in Rome.

Murray almost secure #2. It is still matatically possible for Fed but Murray would have to lose tomorrow and very ealry in Rome and Fed makes finals as well. Almaot impossible with Rome draw so 95% Andy will be #2 for RG.

I think close to 80% chance Wawa keeps #4 as well.


Giles Says:

skeezer. What has joker done to deserve the tag ” present King of clay, eh? He got booted out in the first round of MC and still hasn’t won the French Open! So what exactly are you talking about?


Jun Says:

GL/Alison, I’ve been here a while, but never caught the itch to post until now. I love tennis and the back and forth between players’ fans. I love reading them, except the really long ones that some posters repeatedly write every month or so. “Dave” used to write some of those repeating long ones. Thankfully he ‘retired’. :)


Green Lady Says:

Jun agree about Dave, a very clever and knowledgeable poster no doubt about it, but was a bit too Federer biased at times, loved Grendels very witty posts though, we had some very funny back and forths, i miss that :-(( ….


Margot Says:

RZ: Are, you weren’t watching then, that explains everything …;)


Margot Says:

or even, “Ah, you weren’t watching.”
too much plum brandy tsk. tsk.


Jun Says:

Andy proved last year’s Madrid Masters title wasn’t a fluke. Like some people on here thought (and wished).

But this one’s on clay. So it’s not that prestigious. ;)

Cincy Masters is the most prestigious! ;)


RZ Says:

@Margot – you can be assured that I was not watching. You are welcome! 😀


jane Says:

thanks daniel. so then, feasibly, fed/nadal/nole could all be on the same side again, like the rome draw? ugh. was hoping rafa would get #4 so that it’s a more even spread of the big 4. because generally the big 4 are still the big 4 at slams, although stan sometimes plays better at -or saves himself for- the slams, so he could be a factor again, of course.


gee Says:

People are never accepting the truth which is Murray & Kei did not go away at age 26/27.
If fedal are playing in 2003-2006, they would still destroy the weak players & never let Hewitt & Roddick fluke a slam.
Weak era clown Roddick flopped on grass & hardcourts,
as a 6′ 2″, 207 pound hog usually did.
Only deserted fields & a miserable performance by the top 3 could save The Weak Era clowns.
Unlucky Nalbandian lost the golden opportunity at the 2003 US Open because Roddick got the luckiest fluke point in US Open history.
Despite Federer’s phony bravado & insults at the 2011 US Open semi, his second loss to Novak was no fluke.
Just like Murray is no lucky fluke, unlike usa princess Roddick, the rule breaking bully who got away with no tennis suspensions in 2003-2009.
Unlike Safin, Roddick could never compete on European clay & fast indoor hardcourts. Even then, Safin had only a few Masters titles.
Kei is a solid all surface player just like Murray.
Tennis fans respect them more because they have real longevity & skills.
Don’t be fooled by skysports/espn & the ‘Fed Slams are Everything’ propaganda.
It’s too bad that Roddick revealed that he hated Nole’s wins, when he should’ve said “I was in tennis for money & only humiliated myself by choking in a few of (not many) Fed’s big matches”.


Pauly Says:

Nadal isn’t unbeatable on clay
He never was unbeatable but not many Could beat him like they can now
He’s still good on clay but no longer great
He’s still the king of clay however his records reflect that
Murray was playing better all week
Nadal was struggling very lucky to beat quarrery


George Says:

@Pauly: Nadal is certainly not just great, but one of the greatest ever. Margins are small at the top and he come short today. In my opinion, Murray is also one of the greatest ever who happens to play at the same time when some other incredible players play. The first GS final I have seen was Connors vs Ashe and things that guys do today older generations could only dreamt of.


anki Says:

Seriously can’t believe Rafa squandered all those BP’s in the second set. Federeresque, although credit to Murray for serving many unreturnable serves at big points. Murray is a genuine contender for RG, no surprise even if he ends up winning it. Coming to Nole Nishi match, Nishi may be due for a win over Nole. My pick would be Nishi.


chrisford1 Says:

To me, it is not important at RG wherever Fed ends up at in the Draw. I don’t see him as a force anymore on clay. For those that ache for Fedal – even though it’s been 8 years since it was a competitive rivalry – maybe the stars will align for a QF encounter.
Murray is justly #2 and it works well for Roma & RG because Andy finally stopped sucking on clay last year and has high promise to do as well this year. He’s Number 2, and he earned it. And the right not to have to face the Djuggernaut before the Final.
Rafa is the wild card.
As Rafa’s level of play has markedly improved since he landed on dirt again, confidence building. It may improve further. I’d like to see him on Andy’s side of the RG Draw simply because, if Novak and Rafa make it to the Final, one or the other will have a special day in the Final. 10 RGs, or if Nole, another argument against him being in the best player of his era argument gone and of course a win over Nadal in the RG Final is “the ultimate” for him in his present bucket list checkoffs.


Green Lady Says:

Well i dont want to see Andy and Rafa on the same side of the draw, as unlikely as it might be to some, id rather like the idea of my two favorites meeting in a GS final for a change ….


Green Lady Says:

And i dont want to see Andy and Novak on opposite sides either, not really a fan of Andy /Novak finals anymore, sorry my opinion, and im entitled to it ….


jane Says:

well that is unavoidable if novak and andy are ranked #1 and #2 in the world, so it’s looking very likely they’ll be on opposite sides.

as for rafa/andy on the same side, that’s 50-50 if rafa is ranked #4. not sure what the odds are if he’s ranked #5.


Green Lady Says:

Well id still rather not have another Rafa / Novak final at RG, that much is surely possible ….


Okiegal Says:

I always think Fed is a threat…..he is still a force to be reckoned with…..after all he is still the holder of 17 slams and he doesn’t go away easily….granted he is getting older but I think he can still go deep, simply because he is Roger Federer……


J-Kath Says:

Jane

I’m also interested in the rankings for the French.
Obviously no doubt about the No.1.

Oddly enuf Andy and Roger as of this evening are absolutely even-steven (taking off what they dropped and where they are this evening). They both have 7525. Nos. 2 and 3 at Rome.

Need to say not sure about their levels at Rome which will obviously affect FO one way or another. Plus the outcomes at Rome.

Re: Stan and Rafa: As things stand:

Stan will still be no. 4.
Rafa No. 5.
NB: Not sure what level each achieved in Rome last year so again don’t know potential points at risk. However, Stan is likely to be no. 4 as he has an approx. 1,000 lead as is.

Even with all the caveats, very, very likely Rafa will be no.5 at FO.

Maybe one of the stats. guys can confirm or adjust.


Green Lady Says:

J-Kath thanks for the info, im not too worried about rankings, i just dont fancy the idea of yet another Rafa / Novak final on clay, even though it might be lost on some people, or Andy and Novak for that matter, although as Jane says its likely they will be on opposite sides due to the rankings, and i know it goes against the grain here, but id like my two favorites in a final, even if its only a possibility ….


Van Persie Says:

Nole idemo!


J-Kath Says:

Green Lady

Not set in stone. If Andy crashes out first match Rome and Roger reaches deep, Andy will be no. 3. at FO. The only certainty is that Nos. 1, + 2 will not be on the same side….it gets dodgy after that.

PS: Thought you were into the Leicester miracle this evening???
Multi-tasking eh?


Green Lady Says:

J-Kath cheers, and yeah multi tasking its a woman thing lol (joke), following live scores, but watching Leicester City beat Everton 3 / 1, now they are about to get the trophy, im not even a fan, but what theyve done this season has been amazing, so happy for them, a lovely under dog story ;-)) ….


Giles Says:

Come on Kei!


jane Says:

thanks for the breakdown j-kath


Green Lady Says:

Apologies for the rant there Jane ….


jane Says:

no apology needed, g.l.


FedExpress Says:

Kei useless as expected


Giles Says:

Satan’s eyes! Lol


J-Kath Says:

U’re Welcome Jane and GL.


FedExpress Says:

i hate this pushovic


Daniel Says:

Djoko finally get the break in set 2. Slelt and lost first set.

This match is way faster pace wise than first semis.

As I said yesterday, Kei plays roght into Djoko’s confort zone. Note that Djoko even stay a bit more far away to retunr Kei’s shot. This match up doesn’t bother him anymore. That USO 2014 was an abnormal match. Kei needs to be in his ultimate best, not making any mistake and Djoko be off.

Djoko can win Madrid without losing a set as he did in Miami as well. Amd IW he lost only 1.

If he wins tomorrow he will hold 6 of the 8 mandatory Masters + WTF + last 3 Slams. Impressive.


Daniel Says:

Jane,

The odds for Nadal andMurray at the same (if Murray holds #2 as most liky he will) is also 50%. Nadal will be draw to either Djoko, Murray, Fed or Wawa Quarters. And 2 of thos will be on the same side, so 50% to benin same side. For Andy to play Nadal in quarters is 25%, 1/4 the same for Djko, Fed and Stan.

The only certainty for him is not play Djoko before finals and if Nadal is in Top half he will only need to play one of them in finals.

And as you mention early could happen the same draw as Rome (changing Nadal to Fed’s Quarter for example).

That would be again a gret draw for him in RG and gives him tthe labor of favorite to reach his first finals there.


Green Lady Says:

Sorry folks,I just dont share Michael or Chris Ford1s, enthusiasm for a Rafa /Novak final on clay especially at RG ….


Green Lady Says:

Congrats to Novak and fans on another final , GO Andy though, not because i hate Novak, but because Andys my second favorite, so dont be so cynical folks RIGHT ? ….


Daniel Says:

Djoko 40-0 to deuce, missing 3 MP


Daniel Says:

Novak novak. First MP he missed was bizarre, now complicating a routine win.


FedExpress Says:

this is an all time great???


FedExpress Says:

this is why he will never win RG


FedExpress Says:

weak competition and still struggles to serve it out


Daniel Says:

Now he will have to hold to play a tiebreak.


gee Says:

Kei is no weak era chump.
He will use his possum playing skill.
Nole panics every time he sees clay finish line.


Daniel Says:

15-30, Kei 2 points away from forcing a third and getting 2 straight breaks. Djoko better serve big


FedExpress Says:

so nole will routine the TB


Daniel Says:

Tiebreak it is. Let’s see if Djoko will impose himself and do damage control. Unnecessary 20 more minutes of play, but at least he gets a scare, this tourney so fa was too “easy” for him.


Daniel Says:

Wow, out of knowhere, KIe hit sme winners taking the ball on the rise


Daniel Says:

5-3 Djoko, again n his racquet for now on.


Daniel Says:

2 more MP


Daniel Says:

At last!


FedExpress Says:

funny to see how noles opponents become mental midgets.

will play the match of their life vs nadal, fed but will wet their panties when they face nole


Margot Says:

Well played Nole, looks unbeatable, but interesting last 15 minutes….Lol I thought it was only our Andy who got tight serving for matches….;)


Okiegal Says:

Novak wins….no surprise there….Congrats to all Novak fans!

I’m leaving tennis and moving on to Churchill Downs for the Kentucky Derby! Love to watch the ponies run…..


courbon Says:

And t he winner of most stupid comment this month is..( drums please )
GILES!!! (” Satan eyes ” )
Congratulation to a winner!
Second place in close contest goes to..
FED EXPRESS! ( weak competition and still struggles to serve it out )
That comments was meant for Fed in US Open final against Novak,but Fed Express got confused and delayed comment ( about 5 years )
Congartulations to winners and you may pick up your trophys at the desk…


Okiegal Says:

I wish you’d wet your panties and move on to another chat room for adolescents……you are so annoying…..


gee Says:

Fed was/is the one wetting himself vs. “Fraud joke” Djoker & “Weaponless weak era boy Murray”.
Ironic in losing to weak Pretty games of Nolerayrina😱👑


Wog Boy Says:

“funny to see how noles opponents become mental midgets.”

Roger fan should know the best.

Good job Nole, but why did you have to complicate it at the end, if it went to third set momentum would be on Kei’s side and you would be goner. Thanks God it didn’t.

BTW, did anybody timed Kei between serves, very shifty samurai.


courbon Says:

Margot-Buy the way, instead of tent I prepared nice Mongolian yurt for you after Brexit…more cool.I’ll prepare nice meal and good bottle of Bordeaux for 24th of Jun when you come (-:


courbon Says:

WB-Shifty samurai was playing damn good…By the way, prefere Wiljamovka to Dunjevaca


Wog Boy Says:

Courbon,

I am not so picky, I can have after shave as long as it is not Pitralon;)


Wog Boy Says:

^^ and stop seducing girls on TX..


Wog Boy Says:

If I am Andy or Nole, I would ask organizers to supply special gloves for holding that ugly spiky dildo trophy tomorrow..


Van Persie Says:

Will they kiss the trophy at the top?
Will be funny

Congrats to Nole for today


Wog Boy Says:

VP,

I hope not, that would be XXX rated, there are kids in the audience..


courbon Says:

WB-Old Spicy is good choice…or Pino Silvester?


chrisford1 Says:

Disagree, Wog Boy. I think to his foes another scary thing besides Novak being generally smarter on court, faster, more consistent, and able to play forever with heart…..Is if he has a dip and loses a big game or set he should have won, he has the ability to shrug it off and kick in the jet afterburner.
Then they see the 2011 Serbinator version.
Pete to Novak back in 2012 paraphrased, on the advice he gave him after Novak burned out the 4th quarter of 2011:
“Don’t play to dazzle and impress. Don’t overcommit to more scheduling than you can handle. Conserve energy and mental strength for the long haul. Just play to win, and no more.”

Djokovic is a learner and questor, he sought out Pete in 2012 to do a couple sitdowns for those answers, to tell him what he needed to improve on.

Djokovic often cites how learning and adapting attributes of Rafa and Federer’s approach made him a better player. Now things Boris has brought. But add Pete Sampras to the list.


Wog Boy Says:

courbon,

Thanks for that, you brought me back 40 years in my Belgrade getting ready to go to “Mašinac” for dance and live music, doing “fen kare” with my hair and “sako” required to enter the dance (dressing rules), oh sweet sweet memories, thanks Frenchie.


courbon Says:

WB-My first gig withg the ban was at the “Masinac”…oh yeas, sweat memories;…


Wog Boy Says:

CF1,

You are right, but being Nole fan is so hard, we are 24/7 in danger of having cardiac arrest, and those Madrid fans, it started to look like 2015 USO final all over again.


J-Kath Says:

@ Okiegal @ 4.33pm

WOW! Wish I knew to whom you refer. Feisty!


J-Kath Says:

Wogboy

If only we “the delightful Andy Fans” had even part of the “being a fan is so hard” syndrome we’d be mercilessly smiling…. some of the less sensitive of us would be grinning….


Wog Boy Says:

JK,

You are right, no more complaining from me..


Okiegal Says:

JK…..My post at 4:33 or my post on May 7 10:41?? I was feisty with both of those posts….tell me which and I will tell you who…..


Okiegal Says:

Oops…JK….ignore that last comment….you said what post…all rightly then….go up to comment @4:23…you will see who and why…..


Okiegal Says:

@Wog….you gotta be kidding me….your comment @ 5:05…your guy has 16,000 plus ranking points and you are gonna tell us that Novak fans are on the verge of heart attacks…..surely you jest…..ok…you all will have heart attacks if he doesn’t reach 17,000 points….that’s the deal right??? Lol You talk about cardiac arrest follow Rafa and Margot and JK might throw Andy in there too…..


Okiegal Says:

I am watching the Derby…..wasn’t for sure which horse I am going for….then out walks a jockey with a big “R” on his shirt…that was my sign….now I have got to figure out what horse he will be riding ….place your bets!!


Margot Says:

courbon @4.38
Well bless me, kind sir, the best offer I’ve had since….since I don’t know when…:) Won’t have to take you up on it tho., as the GBP will hopefully see sense and vote to stay. Gotta be spitting from inside that tent/yurt.
BTW we have yurts in Wales. Posh Brits love to stay in them and “get back to nature.” Tee hee.


Margot Says:

OK @4.23
You goooo girl!
Honestly, that poster is so sour he could curdle the milk, as my grandma used to say.


Okiegal Says:

@Margot. He has to be the most obnoxious poster on here. He gets on that mental midget crap and I want to hurl………that curdled milk your Grandma talked about! Lol


J-Kath Says:

Okiegal

Solved the puzzle. I know who it is. Now I see you and Margot are using the word “yurt” and I’ve no idea what it is. Google or Wiki here I come.


J-Kath Says:

Wog Boy

But, but, if you stop complaining I’ll have nothing to complain back about……..


Okiegal Says:

Yurt is a tent…..I learned that from working crossword puzzles……


Green Lady Says:

Okie or a tee-pee, like the Native Americans use, would love to stay in one, i love that culture, and way of life, ive met a real life Shamen too ….


J-Kath Says:

I learned it from Google!!!!

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