What Is Wrong With Novak Djokovic?
by Sean Randall | May 17th, 2016, 4:25 pm
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Just over a month ago, Novak Djokovic had the tennis world by the fingertips. Dominating the tour week-after-week with his record-breaking run. He was seemingly at the peak of his powers, with few true rivals, he looked absolutely unstoppable and invincible.

An early loss in Monte Carlo to Jiri Vesely, wasn’t great cause for concern. After all, he had just swept Indian Wells and Miami, so he was due for a break.

Djokovic returned to take the Madrid title over Andy Murray, losing just one set, that to the Scot. Order was restored. Djokovic was back on track. But not for long.

Last week, things turned for Djokovic. He looked out of sorts for much of the Rome tournament, and that came to a head Sunday when this time he lost to Murray 6-3, 6-3 in a rather one-sided final.

The result, to me, wasn’t a great surprise. Murray had been the better player all week. But what shocked me was how tempestuous Djokovic was on court.

Something is up!

Everything seemed to bother him during that final, and not just Murray. The rain, the conditions, the umpire all led to a cavalcade of cursing, racquet throwing, fits of rage and temper tantrums.

There were moments of Good Novak, but many more moments of Bad Novak. Murray played great – went for his shots, served particularly well in the second – but Djokovic just wasn’t the same guy we’ve seen all year in terms of his demeanor. Like something was constantly bothering or nagging at him. And that was the case for much of Rome where in his very first match he was down a break to qualifier Stephane Robert, and that set the tone of “false starts” in every match thereafter through the final.

“I think you’re training your mind to tell yourself things that are very positive, and so you’re kind of deflecting and neglecting the tiredness and whatever wrong sensation you have in your body,” Djokovic admitted after losing to Murray Sunday.

“So I didn’t really think about it, even though it’s present. And it’s obvious, I mean, I had a long couple of weeks, especially last couple of days. I knew it’s going to be very hard for me, an uphill ride against Andy today, who was playing throughout the week on a very high level.”

Was it just being worn out from a tough week of matches? Or something else? I have no idea. But I have some thoughts.

1. Is Djokovic Feeling The French Open Pressure
Winning the French Open has been Djokovic’s goal not just for this year but the last several. After near misses in 2014-2015, he’ll once again be the favourite in Paris next week.

Perhaps thinking this is his last “best chance” at the title (I don’t think that is the case), maybe he’s feeling the weight of that pressure?

Compound that with the fact he just didn’t play his very best right from the first ball in Rome, and it snowballs.

Leading into Paris, you want to be on the rise, building confidence like Murray, like even Rafa. But Djokovic slipped a little last week. And knowing that, he probably wanted to come out and prove to himself he could put together a strong performance in the final, make a statement. Yet it all fell apart.

2. Fatigue
Has he overplayed recently? Djokovic played a lot of tennis the first quarter of the season, but other than one match in his home of Monte Carlo, he had about a full month before Madrid.

And I know he had some tough matches in Rome, but I don’t think playing back-to-back Madrid-Rome should knock you out or make it an impossible ask – well, just ask Rafael Nadal who on more than a few occasions has swept the entire clay lead-up and still won the French!

So I’m not buying any physical fatigue – there shouldn’t be – but perhaps there is some mental fatigue in the head from what awaits in that Paris pressure cooker.

3. Conditions
Did going from the altitude of Madrid to Rome unsettle his game? Maybe. But he’s made the transition before winning both events in 2011, when I still think he was a better player.

This year, the weather was warm and windy at the start of Rome then cooled down by the end with rain creating heavy conditions. Conditions that I think favor someone like Murray.

The weather, though, probably didn’t help anyone’s mood for that matter, but especially Djokovic’s who seemed to be already agitated.

4. Has The Decline Begun?
My gosh, down a break to a qualifier in his first round. Getting fed a bagel by Thomaz Bellucci. Down a break to Nadal, down a set to Nishikori and getting his doors blown off by Murray? He turns 29 on Sunday! THE SKY IS FALLING, THE END IS NEAR!

Well, no. No, the end is not near, not for Djokovic. Yes, everybody hits the skids eventually, I just don’t think that time has come for Novak.

5. Off Court Factors
Maybe there is something going on at home, or with his family? If his shaky play continues without any real explanation, this could be the cause. We may never know – he’s likely not going to tell us – but personal matters can absolutely play a role in your how you do on court.

And if that’s the case and he doesn’t get those issues resolved, then he looking at a very tough summer.

But back to question, What’s wrong? Let’s be real here, Djokovic still won Madrid and made the Rome final! So what is right with Novak Djokovic!

“I needed this kind of results, winning one tournament and playing finals is great,” Djokovic said. “I got what I was looking for, a lot of matches, and confidence and, you know, I spent a lot of hours playing on the clay, which now, leading up to Roland Garros is exactly what I need. Hopefully it’s going to help me perform well in Paris.”

That said, look what’s happened to his main rivals. After long droughts both Andy Murray and Rafael Nadal have not just won again, they won Masters titles, and Murray just got a monster win over Novak. A month ago, both guys were reeling. Now, two of Djokovic’s biggest threats have to be feeling a lot better about their chances in Paris.

So not only did Djokovic miss a chance at continuing his assault on the record books this clay season, he missed the chance of continuing to crush the confidence of Nadal and Murray.

Forty-five days ago there wasn’t much doubt about Paris. Suddenly, Nadal is a threat again and so too is Murray.

The good news for Djokovic is he’ll have a week off – as Paul Annacone said after the Rome final – to hopefully disconnect emotionally from tennis for a few days. He needs to get away.

And since the Slams seed 32, Djokovic should have an easy first two rounds and six sets of tennis in Paris next week to work out the kinks. Becuase if he was finding the going rough in Rome, wait until week two in Roland Garros.


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308 Comments for What Is Wrong With Novak Djokovic?

lylenubbins Says:

Agree, weird. Have not seen “bad Nole” in many moons.


skeezer Says:

Sean,
You are a brave man writing this title ;)
Wait for it ….wait for it….here they come…..the Novak fanatic base coming hard on the attack ;)
Have a tennis game,,,,running out the door..


Travis Bickle Says:

“After long droughts both Andy Murray and Rafael Nadal have not just won again, they won Masters titles, and Murray just got a monster win over Novak.”

Sean, if you think THAT was a monster win for Murray, OK… but note that Murray himself does not seem to agree with you. Based on his post-match celebration (or lack of it) and his presser comments, he fully knows his Rome win was entirely due to extreme one-sided draw as well as favorable scheduling. Both Andu and Novak know that match does not reflect the true measure of their match-up. That said Murray played excellent match and is in a great form prior to FO.

As a side note, and considering this post, I wonder why you wouldn’t publish something similar on “What’s wrong with Roger Federer?” He keeps entering draws only to exit them for various reasons (knee, stomach, back…), explaining loses as “information gathering” mission, etc. I think there is as much if not even more reasons to write on that topic as on Djoker’s troubles of not winning both Madrid and Rome (what a trouble to have!)…


Ben Pronin Says:

1. Maybe. But I’ll come back to this.

2. Nadal never did it as a 29 year old. This whole “this guy did it 5 years ago so everyone should be able to!” line of thinking really needs to stop. But I think he’ll be fine going forward.

3. Maybe, but kinda irrelevant in the grand scheme of things if it’s just isolated to Rome.

4. I don’t think he bad matches in Rome are the single indicator but he’s 29 so yeah probably. No one peaks forever.

5. I was wondering about this myself. He’s appeared to be so zen for the last 2 years that I’d imagine this temper is coming from somewhere other than the tennis court.

So the pressure thing. He beat Nadal in straight sets after being down a break in both and saving 5 set points in one of them. That can’t really HELP his confidence. That means Nadal has lost to Djokovic and Murray in back to back matches leading up to RG. As for the Murray loss. That shouldn’t have been a surprise no matter what. He won 4 in a row against him dropping 1 set. These kind of streaks are bound to be broken. Plus, he lost to Murray and Federer heading into the US Open last year and still won the most important title.

If the pressure is bothering him then having Murray and Nadal be pegged as co-favorites should ease that pressure, which would only be a good thing. He appeared to crack under the pressure in the last 2 years. Maybe not being the overwhelming favorite is a blessing for him.


RZ Says:

It’s possible that Novak just wanted a week off but had to play as part of his preparation for the French Open. I know I’ve had days/weeks where I didn’t want to go to work, or stay on my diet, or go to the gym, etc.


courbon Says:

Skeezer-You are brave man! Wait until our Brotherhood gets you! ( Can we have your address please so we can get you easier ).
* * * *
I hope it is not number 1,4 and 5;


BBB Says:

I think Novak does better when he’s not the prohibitive favorite. He benefited from all the hype about Federer last summer.


skeezer Says:

2:53 post
….and there ya go. Told ya it was a comin. Cherry on top was bringin Fed into “Whats wrong with Novak?” By the Insecured ones.
Must be Fed uh? Lol.

Nole is having a good Clay season, he’s gone deep in most every Clay tournament. He’ll go deep again @FO. Not an issue. But will he win? Let’s put it this way; he should.


skeezer Says:

courban,
Sure!
My address is 145 Brotherhood Lane.
Write me anytime ;)


skeezer Says:

courbon, sorry not courban


Van Persie Says:

Skeezer,

TV told you to ignore strangers ;) You behave now like Little Red Riding Hood


George Says:

This article is a great compliment for Djokovic; can you imagine such level of domination where after 1 loss there is feeling that something is wrong. The fact is that MC, Madrid and Rome were not Doha, Melbourne, IW and Miami. The reasons are: 1) Djokovic is a better hard-court than clay player, 2) Different approaches to hard-court and clay court masters. Hard-courts he play to win, clay-courts he play to prepare himself for RG. In Rome final he played firstly not to injure himself and secondly to win, 3) Factors we don’t know. I am a betting man and I will put my money on Djokovic.


courbon Says:

Thanx Skeez but I’m not writing to you.I’m sending two large Serbian dudes to give you a visit…
By the way, I was called bourbon other day, so courban is not that bad..(-:


skeezer Says:

Lol courbon … bourban? Really? Ok…thats bad. I feel better now, thnx.
BTW I pity the fool who messes with u!


J-Kath Says:

Del Potro withdraws from FO. Waiting for the Grass.


Ben Pronin Says:

RZ, I got that feeling, as well. I don’t think he was expecting to lose early in Monte Carlo but was basically forced to play Madrid. Even though he won it, I don’t think he loves the conditions there and doesn’t find it particularly suitable for his preparations. He’s been 2 sets from the RG title in the last 2 years after skipping Madrid, I never thought his idea of adding Madrid was the answer. But with his early exit in MC, he had no choice. So in Rome he was just all kinds of cranky. Was it because he had to play a third clay event? Or is it something else. I don’t know. But no denying he was in a foul mood.


J-Kath Says:

Oh Gosh it worries me when Sean goes of “subject” and picks up Andy….please, please move on…the choice is huge…


Sean Randall Says:

Travis Bickle, yes, I do think that was a monster win for Murray, that’s why I wrote it that way.

As for Federer, I think you answered the question yourself. No need for me to write what’s wrong him Roger, you already know.


elina Says:

What’s wrong with Novak?

Nothing. Like Roger ten years ago, he’s still the best player but the field is improving and closing the gap is all, unlike during The W


Okiegal Says:

@courbon 6:04…..I was the one who accidentally made that mistake….my stupid spell check…..and I did apologize…… I think you liked being referred to as Bourbon…..lol!


chrisford1 Says:

I think he was pissed initially that he ended up with a brutal late rounds draw where he had to play the best 3 other clay players at the moment. One in 4 chance of getting Rafa, he got him. He beat Rafa, but didn’t dominate him leaving Nadal with confidence. Kei fought a strategically smart contest and the semi was a long and draining one of high quality play. He beat Kei, but the Japanese player saw reason to think he was on track for the FO.
Then the match against Andy was a mix of frustration, fatique fro 2 previous tough matches, and inability to execute what he wanted to do to. So Djokovic acted out on his frustration. Like with Rafa and Nishikori, Andy though more than those others, got a confidence boost from how he did against Novak. That was also a component in the frustration.
That stuff probably has something more to do with his attitude than the “looming pressure” of the FO playing out in play in Rome, or his parents being there threw him off.


Baa Says:

Obviously he’s mad.
He has many off court duties.
If he isn’t working non-stop, someone would criticize him.
He threw away matches against Nadal & that feddy misbehaved as usual
When Novak didn’t win.
Wouldn’t you be Upset if you failed to challenge Nadal on clay at the French,
then in 2013 you foolishly believed you weren’t good enough
to dominate 97% on different surfaces and you stupidly said you weren’t putting tennis on your biggest importance list?
He believed he was “crazy”.
now he still doesn’t want to anticipate the media attention.
If he doesn’t win, he doesn’t have stress out.


Baa Says:

*have to


James Says:

He’s 29. He’s played 40 matches this year already. Do the math.

This French open is the most wide open in a long time.

I think Murray takes this one. Unless he gets a really bad draw.


Travis Bickle Says:

Skeezer,

5:23 post is becoming 2:53 post,
courbon is becoming courban…

Evidently you’re a bit off. Nothing unusual for you though.

Speaking of insecure Djoker fans (or “insecured” as you eloquently put it), I’ll repeat that Djoker has reached an astronomic level of success, when not winning Madrid and Rome Masters in two weeks prompts fairly objective folks like Sean to ask the question “What’s wrong with Novak?”

Think of it, winning Madrid by beating defending champ and world #2 in the final, and then beating King of Clay in Rome QF in straight sets, and then beating Nishikori in SF, and then ONLY losing the final against fresh #2 who benefited from favorable draw and scheduling…

Like I said, if THAT is what prompts a notion that something is wrong with Novak’s game – that is a beautiful problem to have, It means that standards Novak is held to are the highest in history of all sports, not just tennis!

So, no insecurities (or “insecuredities”) from me. The only thing that can stop Novak from winning FO easily is horribly unfair draw – something similar he had in Rome this year or in last year FO. But I have a feeling, even that won’t be enough to stop him this year.

And finally, I know you want him to win FO, considering that Federer is done winning and you, as most Fed fans, are gradually making “bandwagon transition” from Fed to Novak, which is obvious from your post over last couple of years.


danica Says:

Murray is also my slight favorite over Nole. Paul Annacone bets on Rafa. Rafa’s loss to Nole didn’t actually convince me that he is on par with Nolandy. Two straight sets, although quite tight, but against Nole that some claim something is “wrong with” (see the newest topic).

Agree with James.


mat4 Says:

I don’t believe that Sean is on the right track with this article, although he may have a point. Let’s first reiterate that I didn’t like Novak’s behaviour, because he should have known better.

The reasons why Novak was nervous were numerous, all adding one to the other.

First, he was tired. All his muscles were probably aching, his ankle was troubling him, and he had to face a difficult foe under circumstances where he was heavily handicapped.

As the world no 1, he asked for a small delay, knowing that the rain will stop, to put the court in order. Although both Andy and himself were probably afraid of an injury before the FO, his request was turned down.

Then, I guess that somewhere in the back on his mind was the question of the draw. In Rome, he had a repeat of last year FO, an FO where, since 2007, he has horrible draws: Rafa in his half every year but one, Fed when Fed was ranked no 3. It’s easy to get nervous when one faces time and time again such predictable draws.

I don’t think it was the growing tension before the FO. Novak wasn’t nervous against Rafa, nor Bellucci, nor Nishikori. But I guess that he wasn’t happy with his game. He started most of matches slowly, and couldn’t really connect with his serve. Then, with the ankle problem, he couldn’t hit a backhand DTL, and was late on his forehand.

Finally, like Travis, I don’t believe that this victory was, by itself, important. These top players are masters of delusion and optimism, and psychologically, neither Murray neither Djokovic will be affected.

This tournament will be a game changer in an eventual Rafa – Andy match. They both believe now that they can win at Roland Garros. It will put additional pressure on both, and they will be both nervous when facing each other, while they swang freely against Djokovic. Now they are not outsiders, but legitimate contenders. I believe it could work for Novak.

They main thing, now, \re the draw and the weather. I hope that my French decided that finally, it was time for Novak to win the FO.


mat4 Says:

Sorry:

The main thing, now, are the draw…


lakie Says:

Whether Nadal is no. 4 or no. 5, I hope he is in Djokovic’s half.


Vami Says:

Djokovic 5/6
Nadal 4
Murray 6
Wawrinka 17
….


Vami Says:

So, it’s only 5/6 and not 1/10? What kind of a #1 player is that? Something is seriously wrong with the guy? It’s over, he’s in a serious decline.


Daniel Says:

Still think Djoko is the the favorite above Nadal and Murray.

The good for Murray is that in last 3 matches he played with Novak he won sets. in RG last year 2 and Rome 2 as well. So deep in his mind he knows that on clay he is more competitive with Novak than HC and this can carry him on. Should they meet in finals this can play a whole.

But also Murray is more suceptible to have long matches pre final than Djoko. Murray can lose sets on clay to almost everybody and Djoko only a few can take a set out f him, and that only in week 2.

I think also the first rounds will be very important. If he start having easy wins (like Nadal did in 2008) than he will gear up for week two and I wouldn’t be surprised if he delivers those fantastic semis and finals displays he does.

My money is on Djoko this year. Was last year also, but…


Margot Says:

Andy came closer in Madrid to beating Nole than for ages, or is that being erased out of the narrative? Gave us Murray watchers enough to hope that day would come.
As for pressure on Andy at RG. Oh please spare me that one. If you want pressure try Andy at Wimbledon, or ask the French players about pressure at RG.


Tennis Vagabond Says:

I agree with some of the Novak fans here that it is nothing more than a testament to Novak’s dominance that reaching 2 Masters finals in a row and winning one is a bad patch.

I don’t think Novak was fazed by the draw. He’s been on tour a long time. He’s faced every kind of draw a dozen times. I don’t know why he was flustered. I think the theory that he’s only human is better than any of those being floated.

It’s a wide open RG in term of number of competitors. There are Novak, Rafa, Kei and, maybe, Stan. Whereas for the last 5 years, there was (in pre-tournament thinking) really just Rafa and Novak. However, Novak is still the pre-eminent favourite, while in years past it had been much closer betting odds between Novak and Rafa.

This may be the first year where I haven’t had Fed in the top four, or even having a chance at all. Come on Fed! Prove me wrong!


Margot Says:

Lol TV now Andy has been left off your narrative!
Que sera.


nits Says:

Nothing is wrong with Djokovic Superhuman become normal human being for a while


Dave Says:

Djokovic is having a season so far that is almost on par with last season. 5 titles already. 6 finals. Last year he had 5 titles and 6 finals. Points wise he is a little behind last year, but not by much. I like the way Murray plays,but when was the last time Murray won a major? And now people are calling him the favorite? I find that pretty funny. He hasn’t won a major in 3 years and he is all of sudden the favorite in a major he has never even made the final of. Even putting Murray ahead of Nadal this year is a stretch. Maybe at Madrid he is a favorite where conditions couldn’t get more different than they are at Roland Garros.


James Says:

It wasn’t just about losing the final in Rome. He struggled in many of the matches he won.

Lets see how the draw comes out, since a lot depends on that. All I can say is – I can’t see anyone other than the three winners of the last 3 masters tournaments winning the French.

Stan isn’t even close to his form of last year, Fed is out of the question. nishikori is the only one that can make life difficult for these guys – but 7 best of 5 matches? Nah. Thiem, Kyrgios, Goffin – too inconsistent yet for me to believe they can put together a 7 match win streak in a slam.

Who else? tell me.


Lodhi Says:

I would like to apologize on skeezer’s behalf. The GOAT around whom the universe revolves may not play French Open. Skeez isn’t happy about it but it will pass. Thanks for understanding.


Dave Says:

James,

I wouldn’t be surprised if Djokovic has lost more sets last year than he did this year so far. Or just as many. He has looked better at times this year than last year. At times he has looked worse. Every season has it’s ups and downs. He started slow in a lot of matches last year. And in his Indian Wells and Miami double last year, he lost way more sets than this year. Losing sets does show an indication of how you are doing. This is definitely getting blown out of proportion.


danica Says:

James,
that’s all it takes: Thiem, Kyrgios, Goffin on a good day to take out Nole, Andy, Rafa and you have a winner nobody dreams of. Something like Gaudio, totally out of nowhere.


roy Says:

getting put out 1st round MC by that unseeded guy. getting a bagel from belucci or anyone. those should be worrying signs, actually. if it was happening to nadal, you better believe people would be rightfully worried. psychologically novak is taking some damage and murray and nadal are in ascendency in comparison, that is clear. going into RG he is in a worse position than last year. it’s incredible he didn’t win it last year, really.


Margot Says:

Danica: it’s a lot more difficult for those guys in best of 5 In best of 3 you can have a slow start, a blink and wowzer you’re out.
In best 5 cream usually rises to the top.
Having said that I wouldn’t be al all surprised to see some young up and comers in the 2nd week. Except perhaps Thiem who is playing a of of tennis at the mo.
Depends on the draw. Can’t wait!


James Says:

Danica,

This ain’t the Gaudio times. We have 3 of the top 5 players, EVER, playing simultaneously. Never happened before. And then there’s Murray – maybe he stops being a bridesmaid. One young gun can get on fire and take out one of these guys, but all of them? Of course anything is possible, we can only talk about what’s probable, no point talking about what’s possible, since that is a conversation without merit (its possible that Dimitrov wins the French, isn’t it? Get my point?).

The likelihood that someone other than Murray, Djokovic and Nadal wins the French seems miniscule this time.

And Djokovic, like any other player at his stage, is one injury away from oblivion, just like he is one year away from being 30. Don’t forget, he has a lot of miles on his body too, in fact, Murray has the fresher (and stronger) body. Nadal’s is creaky – and 30.


James Says:

I think overall, poor Nadal has had the worst competition of any player ever – even more than Lendl. Before he could win a single slam, Fed was Fed. Just when Fed started to fade away, Djokovic became Djokovic. He hasn’t had a break.


All out Says:

I think 29 seems to be the age of decline for male tennis players this era. Only exception seems to be Murray. Federer and nadal started playing below their standard around 29. Its not inconceivable to see Nole playing bad at RG. I wouldnt be surprised if he lost to Nadal or Murray or did not make the finals. Its close to impossible to sustain the god like levels he showed the whole of last year. He came close to losing both sets against rafa at rome.. only sheer will won that match for him. He’s had a great career already but i still think he’s due atleast 4-5 more slams, maybe just not a french open.


danica Says:

Wawrinka was just about to turn 29 when he won the AO. He was already 30 when he won the RG. So, all is not lost for Nole :)


Van Persie Says:

Agassi was also 29 when he won the FO and he completed career grand slam. And he did manage to get 4 more Slams until he retired.
Personally, I would like to see a Rafa-Nole match. There is one day break between the maches. The problem last year was, that Nole had to play on Friday and Saturday against Andy.


danica Says:

I know. I truly believe the scheduling screwed him up last year.


J-Kath Says:

VP

And Andy had to play on Friday and Saturday against Nole…


Van Persie Says:

Exactly J-Kath, but Andy did not play final last year, or?
The idea was, Nole was tired, because he had to play against Andy on Friday and Saturday


Van Persie Says:

P.S. But Wawrinka played also amazing


J-Kath Says:

Jane

Thanks for signalling the article..a decent, well-written article for a change.

VP: I can’t remember whether it was the quarters or a semis. What I seem to recall was that Andy had faced some difficult scheduling and was lucky the match had to be carried forward. Both of them benefitted by the carry-over…but at the end Nole was weary. Don’t know how much this affected his match with Stan who suddenly played out of this world.???


Pauly Says:

Danica

Rafa should’ve won in Rome against your idol Nole
Andy is favourite for French open


Giles Says:

He loses one event and there is something wrong with joker? Lol


Pauly Says:

If the weather is hot windy dusty Nadal will be favourite
The weather holds the key for Nadal who can spin it past everyone
Would be great to see Nadal crack 10 French opens
That’s the biggest highlight for me
Hope it happens
But Djokovic Murray Wawrinka won’t be easy to beat


anki Says:

Nadal or Murray will win the french open. Novak is not playing well in the last few months. That combined with his terrible on court attitude, plus his usual tough draws. Can’t see him winning.


Van Persie Says:

JK,

Wawrinka really played one of the most beautiful matches of his career. Was Djokovic to tired mentally after his matches against Rafa (QF) and Andy (semifinal) and was not able to find a solution? Novak fans could be entitled to have this excuse. But sorry, I will be repetitive now, Wawa was unbelieavable.


danica Says:

Pauly,
I don’t know if your idol Rafa should’ve won but it was obvious that he couldn’t have. So, your point?


J-Kath Says:

VP

Agree. Absolutely. Can he bring it on again….can’t begin to guess.


mat4 Says:

I guess that Nadal won’t make it to the semi. My bet is that he will lose in the first or second round, against a heavy outsider. That’s when he’s the most nervous. He lost to Thiem and Cuevas, this year, and, while he plays freely when he has nothing to lose — against Novak, e.g. — he continues to be nervous when the stakes are high, like he was in the semi of Madrid, when he lost in two against Murray.

Then, while he was good in Rome, Djokovic played below his usual level, and they played under heavy conditions on a very slow clay. His main weapon was always his speed in defence, but he has declined in that respect. He definitely has no chance.


mat4 Says:

Now, if Gachassin still makes the decision, we will have something like this in the projectid qf:

qf1 Djokovic-Nishikori (with Raonic in this quarter)
qf2 Federer Nadal
qf3 Wawrinka Tsonga
qf4 Murray Berdych

If Guy Forget makes the decision, it could look like this:

qf1 Djokovic Berdych
qf2 Wawrinka Nishikori
qf3 Federer Nadal (Raonic)
qf4 Murray Tsonga


mat4 Says:

I thought about it once again. If Gachassin still decides, the draw could even look like this:

qf1 Djokovic-Nishikori (with Raonic in this quarter)
qf2 Wawrinka Nadal
qf3 Federer Tsonga
qf4 Murray Berdych (with Monfils somewhere here)


J-Kath Says:

Well Mat 4…..if you keep going you are bound to hit it..(grin)

Try a walk-over by a Federer opponent..
..(only half-joking)


mat4 Says:

@J-Kath:

There are few rules to follow (with the exception of 2009, when, after Fed’s disastrous 2008 final and Madrid 2009 semi, things had changed a bit):

1. Djokovic and Nadal have to face the earliest possible;
2. Federer and Nadal are never in the same half;
3. when it’s possible, Murray is in Novak’s half;
4. Tsonga is never in Rafa’s half, Monfils neither, when they play well before the FO.
5. Novak has to deal at least with one big server.
6. Nadal can’t face a fully fit DelPotro.


mat4 Says:

Let’s check:
2006 – Nadal – Djokovic QF,
2007 – Nadal – Djokovic SF
2008 – Nadal – Djokovic SF
2011 – Djokovic – Federer SF
2012 – Djokovic – Federer SF
2013 – Djokovic – Nadal SF
2014 – Fed wasn’t in Rafa’s half,
2015 – Djokovic – Nadal QF.

It was about the two first conditions. What about the third (when the first two are fulfilled):

2015: Djokovic – Murray, SF.

What about the fourth? I’d have to check precisely, but Nadal never faced Tsonga, Monfils nor DelPo at the FO. When DelPo was in full fledge, in 2009, in was in Roger’s half.


Giles Says:

Turn and twist as you may mut 4. your man will not win the French Open. You can downgrade Rafa all you like but at the end of the day remember he’s the one holding NINE Coupe de Mousquetaires. And your man – nought!!!


mat4 Says:

Checked: Tsonga has never landed in Rafa’s half.


Colin Says:

This is weird. I tried to post one of my pearls of wisdom, only to get repeated ERROR messages, though I’m using the same address and name as always. What can be wrong?


mat4 Says:

So, let’s reformulate the conditions:

1. make Federer’s path easier, and Nadal’s harder, to get a Fed victory or a Fedal.

2. make the path of the best French player easier by avoiding Nadal.

Here is the complete list of French players who played Rafa at the FO, in 11 years:

2015 R128 WC Quentin Halys [FRA] 6-3 6-3 6-4
2010 R128 WC Gianni Mina [FRA] 6-2 6-2 6-2
2008 R64 Q Nicolas Devilder [FRA] 6-4 6-0 6-1
2006 R32 29 Paul Henri Mathieu [FRA] 5-7 6-4 6-4 6-4
2005 R16 23 Sebastien Grosjean [FRA] 6-4 3-6 6-0 6-3
2005 R32 30 Richard Gasquet [FRA] 6-4 6-3 6-2


Colin Says:

But THAT one appeared. How I hate the Internet!


Yolita Says:

No mention in the article of the very uneven draw. As Novak said: the top and the bottom halves of the draw were different events.

Novak won an epic final against Rafa om Friday, then he won another epic final against Nishikori on Saturday… But 16 hiurs later he couldn’t win a third one on Sunday against a rested opponent who had just watched Goffin and Pouille self-destruct and had been given 6 more hours rest on top of that.

I understand there is a lot of wishful thinking, hoping that Novak is really in trouble. But I think you should all curb your enthusiasm. Nobody can win three finals in three consecutive days against 3 top clay players: not even Novak Djokovic.


Dave Says:

The weather forecast at Roland Garros is still calling for rain the first week and fairly cold conditions.


Vami Says:

@mat4
Interesting stats.I’m almost sure that Nadal will again end up in Novak’s quarter or his side of the draw. I believe that the main driver for rigged draws is the money, RG might be an exception where some other things could play a role. The organizers of a few tournaments recently have tried to have Fedal ($$$) a few times but it never happened; Rafole ($$)is a much safer bet these days.

Andy will likely have another cake walk on the other side. In AO he had to face fading Ferrer in QF and almost lost to Raonic in semis before facing Djokovic. I don’t remember anybody ever mentioning here his “luck” in draws (Novak on the other hand had Simon-Kei-Roger). It’s of course not Andy’s fault; outside of the UK nobody cares about him (not a big $$$ cow) while being British certainly helps (UK corporations are investing a lot of $$$ in tennis, they need a domestic star).

By the way, that article Jane pointed to is a great read.


Martin rivkin Says:

hes resting not over doing it as hes been on full throttle this is on beckers advice no doubt so he can return to being a thorn in the side the pain in the neck of mens tennis again winning everything with no rivals…just watch…french, wimble, olympics and usa… all to get golden slam and be the great amazing bum hole of all time soz mean mens tennis player
return of the joker to full bore form starts sunday at french.

thank god for womens tennis!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


mat4 Says:

In 2005 excepted, it was only in the first round, mainly qualifiers and wild cards.

Meanwhile, French players have made 3 SF and 4 QF at RG.


mat4 Says:

@Vami:

There was this famous case Djokovic-Federer meeting in the semi of all hard slams and WB from 2007-2011, but it ended after the USO 2011. A few other things were predictable (Murray landing in Soderling quarter at the AO), but it looked random since 2012.

But the French… is a special story.


mat4 Says:

@Vami:

I agree, of course, that the main trigger is money.


mat4 Says:

@Giles:

You’re really a head-case. I don’t see how those draws downgrade Rafa.

The future is not ours to see, but if Novak wins THIS FO, it will matter as much as Rafa’s 9 FO’s…

And, if it happens, in a few years, Rafa will be remembered as a clay court specialist, a one trick pony, that was overcome by Djokovic since 2014 even on clay. New fans won’t find a “physical decline” as an excuse, and he will remain the third wheel of the “big three”.


courbon Says:

Colin-Maybe your wisdom was so great, that computer chip of server just could not handel it?


mat4 Says:

BTW, as it happens so often when I write about such troubling stats, nobody dares to comment.


lakie Says:

Talking of rigged draws, draws are rigged in Djokovic’s favor since AO 2014. Probably Becker knows how to move the levers of power and maybe that is why he was hired. Whatever draw Djokovic wants, he will get at RG 2016.


courbon Says:

Colin, what you think about Martin Rikvins posts and his use of punctuation marks?


Giles Says:

mut4. You’re the head case I’m afraid. Joker will also be remembered for his skittish retirements and his thrashings from Rafa pre- 2011 and some thereafter. Remember OG 2008? That djokosmash which he missed and Rafa’s victory where joker was reduced to tears? Remember Madrid 2009, joker with 4/5 match points eventually losing to Rafa and reduced to tears? At least joker has not been successful in reducing Rafa to tears. Poor joker.
Rafa is no one trick pony. He has won slams on different surfaces. Where is joker’s French Open title?? May he never achieve that title!


mat4 Says:

@lakie:

You’re a troll. And your despair is so obvious. If you think that you can provoke me the way you provoked WB, you’re dreaming awaken.


anki Says:

How can the GS draws be rigged? It can’t be possible right? Reminds me of people discussing that UEFA champions league draws are also fixed.


mat4 Says:

But since I have good heart, I am ready to apologize to you, lakie: I apologize for Novak beating Rafa 26 times, 11 times of the last 12 matches; I apologize for Novak beating Andy 11 times of the last 13 matches. Oh, how sorry I am…


Giles Says:

Listen up folks, when joker gets a slightly more difficult draw, they are rigged according to mut4. Lol
Hope the draws are rigged for the FO 2016!!!


jalep Says:

“Nobody can win three finals in three consecutive days against 3 top clay players: not even Novak Djokovic.”

This is exactly what the top half of the Rome draw was: the potential for blockbusters $$$ — it had Federer in it too — except he couldn’t join in.

The bottom half wasn’t stacked. I’m not bringing it up to take anything away from Andy’s title. Stacking happens too many times for me to keep track of who benefited and won. My obsession isn’t with that. Somebody else can take that on. But it would be a flagrant insult to hard core fans’ intelligence, (like the kind posting on tennis websites), for Roland Garros to come up with a similar design. I mean if they must stack like that, now and then, at least let some time lapse so it’s not in my face. Greedy ******** are not interested in what is right and fair for the players.

On that cheery note, we’ll see soon.


mat4 Says:

@anki:

And there are suspicions that the world cup draw in soccer was rigged… So, it’s still possible. But the stats are usually the main proof.


mat4 Says:

Giles, I apologize to you too…


Giles Says:

mut4. You’re the troll on here. Waiting for your guy to fail once again at RG and maybe this time you will disappear for good. PG!!!


jalep Says:

mat4, since you have such a good heart, answer me this: Do you also think I’m lakie?


mat4 Says:

@Courbon:

I thought that Martin rivkin was GL, but she writes “he’s”.


mat4 Says:

@jalep:

I wrote it on another thread: I am sure you’re not. I know you for such a long time, you can’t be lakie.

And if you are, I will solemnly admit that I don’t know ANYTHING about (wo)men and retire from this world in a convent.


jalep Says:

Okay, thanks hahahahaha good answer! mat4


jalep Says:

…and, I apologize to you for any perceived offenses over the years, mat4


mat4 Says:

@jalep: I don’t understand why WB thought it was you. Although you were once unnerved by our gloating, boasting, whatever, I was certain it was a bad day.

But it’s true that we don’t chat the way we did on this pages. It was more relaxed, friendlier just a few years ago.


Giles Says:

I wonder why the clowns in joker’s box always look worried when he plays Rafa? Maybe cos joker is playing a one trick pony! BB digs his nose, Vajda puts his hands up to the sky to applaud ( just like a child), and just a sense of great unease in the clown box.


mat4 Says:

@jalep:

I never argue with my old ethereal friends from T-x, and I try not to offend them. Sometimes, I have to react to certain trolls so I go over the board, but I try to avoid such moments.


Giles Says:

Poor mut4, sensing signs of a nervous breakdown. He’s definitely losing the plot. Lol


mat4 Says:

I makes me sad when I see some dear posters arguing, and sometimes I really don’t know how to react. Both WB and Skeez are nice persons, but they are at war; then, although we all mentioned that you were not lakie, there was this thing between WB and you. Then, Travis and GL (I read a thread on the “Blue Moon” forum, and saw how viciously Travis was attack, and why he was overreacting here too). Then I had a misunderstanding with J-Kath, and, just yesterday, with GL.

So, it’s complicated I guess some times. Written words can be so treacherous.


jalep Says:

Yes, it could have been a bad day, mat4, but I was also annoyed enough to part company with the gloating, boasting and the whatever of Fed fans in 2010. It’s just me, mat4. Some is tolerable — I get testy when it’s over the top, no matter what player gets it. Not sure I’ll be able to stomach #10 RG for a certain Spaniard. I thought 5 in a row for Federer at Wimbledon was kitsch. (and, suspicious)


calmdownplease Says:

‘I don’t remember anybody ever mentioning here his “luck” in draws..’

Because it’s only a recent and not often event.

V.A.M.I


Okiegal Says:

@mat4….Apologize to me for the one trick pony remark regarding clay…..did I read that right?? The biggest Rafa hater on the planet knows better than that…….or should!


jalep Says:

Well, I have no sympathy for Travis Bickle. Maybe it will develop. As it is, when I think, okay, he’s going to lay off GL and understand the hefting personal insults, clever as he and other’s might think he is, is not a way to be taken seriously, if that’s his intention above trolling, then we’ll see. Right now, he and Wog Boy are in the Dog House.


Okiegal Says:

@jalep…..regarding Rafa and #10…..I think that one might mean more to Rafa and his fans since he has been on a decline, they mean the most like in 2013. If rafa doesn’t win 10, so be it, I’m not gonna cry….my gosh he’s got 9 already!!


lakie Says:

mat4 called me a troll repeatedly. He must be dying for my scintillating company in troll land where he dwells as Chief Troll with fellow trolls like TB, VP… but alas he doesn’t find them half as challenging as me despite TB’s valiant attempts to entertain everyone by his infamous attacks on GL.
mat4 ‘s specialty is writing lengthy posts with one of the following themes
1) Nadal is doping.
2) Djokovic is better than Nadal. This he does by posting pseudo stats or pseudo analysis of past matches.

Poor mat4! He probably doesn’t have any life outside these columns. By his fake analysis and lengthy posts which not many people can plough through, he has probably established a reputation as a guy who knows tennis stats and facts. But there are people like me who actually read his posts sometimes just to see whether he makes sense at least by random chance. But alas, I find he writes gibberish disguised as analysis.


Okiegal Says:

@jalep 11:25……you are spot on….agree!!!!!


mat4 Says:

@jalep:

I think it’s normal. Vae victis! has always been the norm.

I try to remain objective when analysing matches, but sometimes, I lose the plot too. We have three outstanding players in this generation, and a fourth who is 99,9% as good as they are, but who, for various reasons, didn’t fully realized his potential, excepted for a lap of several months.

So, for Fedfans, Rafans, Nolefans, the glasses are so full that they forget how outstanding, unique, difficult and short-living it is.

Only Roman emperors had somebody to whisper memento mori at their ears.


mat4 Says:

@Okiegal:

I addressed that remark of mine in one of the following posts. And I am not the biggest Rafa hater here. Or am I?

@Lakie:

Long posts are not for you. You can’t handle them. I write short, one line posts for you in the hope, alas!, that you will manage to understand.


lakie Says:

Dear mat4, long posts are not for anyone. In these days of ADD, not many can read beyond one liners. Although I know you are a fake analyst I am sure you value me because everyone wants somebody who understands them perfectly and sees through their pretensions.
Ciao!


mat4 Says:

Ciao lakie! Nice of you to leave. Hope you won’t come back!


jalep Says:

“@jalep…..regarding Rafa and #10…..I think that one might mean more to Rafa and his fans since he has been on a decline, they mean the most like in 2013. If rafa doesn’t win 10, so be it, I’m not gonna cry….my gosh he’s got 9 already!!”

I can’t get on board with that, Okiegal. There’s always, always a reason for more, more, more ah this is important because….

GOAT debate is a huge driver of the need for more for some, others are just out of control fanatics. GOD BLESS THEM, Okiegal 😄 in the end I realize it can’t be helped and just move on… it is what it is — as applies to sports this time.


Dave Says:

I’m not feeling the love today at tx. What’s going on today?


Margot Says:

@matt4
No way GL would write in that style with that language. In fact it’s very, very difficult to fake a style over time.


jalep Says:

Come on mat4. That’s not fair. Why so hard on lakie and not Travis Bickle? If we must be sympathetic and give people time here, why discriminate?


Margot Says:

Unless, of course, you are a rather good writer like Sebastian Faulks.


Van Persie Says:

Now that people talk about other posters I will also tell something about GL. I tried several times to be be nice to her. She misunderstod my posts, I explained her what I meant, then she came always with her excuse about bipolar disorder….sorry, but I have the feeling, that she uses her diseases for getting attention. And I can’t stand this kind of persons…and I do not like her hysterical reactions.


jalep Says:

Dave, don’t worry about it, sorry. It’s dirty laundry that goes way back.


mat4 Says:

@Margot:

I remarked the punctuation first, then had another look. First, the pseudo was wrong — it would be, if a new one — Snow Queen, White Witch or something like this. No way she would have written capitalia partially. Usually she simply uses minusculae. Then, she never write “hes been”. So, after that first look, I knew it wasn’t her, and that’s what I wrote in case courbon thought it was her.


Margot Says:

@jalep
Because, and this is a self evident truth, we are generally much softer on fans who support our favourites.
Unless of course, God help us, you are perceived as a “not good enough fan.”
Jeez, how I hate that one.


Van Persie Says:

And I like WB and TB not because they are Novak fans, I like them because they are honest and good persons. I am sure that even TB is a very, very good guy


Van Persie Says:

And if somebody here loves GL that much, please be so kind and share email adresses somehow with her, have a conversation about her problems in private, and do not turn this site into a soap opera about her.


mat4 Says:

@jalep:

It’s not discrimination, jalep. She started first, like she usually does. Usually I don’t comment her posts and let it pass, and I am still ready to discuss with her normally, just like I am ready to discuss normally with Giles, who, despite the appearances, never really offended me.


calmdownplease Says:

“you are perceived as a “not good enough fan.”

Well, quite Margot
we must not do THAT…

“we are generally much softer on fans who support our favourites.”

INDEED.
Which is just as well for Muzz fans here and elsewhere, I think :0)


mat4 Says:

Sarah:

You overdo it. GL is the way she is, you don’t have to read her posts. I doubt that she ever offended anybody. She’s hypersensitive, that’s all.


Van Persie Says:

Mat 4,

Bevor I wrote her a nasty post, she used to comment after each post of mine. Got on my nerves. I am not payed for psychological assistance here


Van Persie Says:

Will search the posts, whee she always reminded me she suffers from bipolar disorder


mat4 Says:

@Margot, CDP:

No, that’s not always the reason, although it is often the case. Personally, I try to be correct with all the posters that are correct toward me. On other instances, I sometimes really don’t know how to react.


jalep Says:

And I’m not so sure, VP. I’ve noticed we disagree in general about posters being ‘good’ or ‘bad’ right now. We both have our reasons for the preferences. It’s important to respect that and not demand a poster like or not like this or that person — and some here have demanded that, implicitly, if not explicitly.

But I value you for your interest in WTA. Being starved for more WTA supporters, I’m inclined to like you.


Van Persie Says:

I will search for a nymphomaniac to post, will she get the same attention and understanding, if she will mention her disease?


mat4 Says:

@VP:

Yes!! A lot of understanding! and attention…


Van Persie Says:

Jalep, I respect and like you to. Forget about WB. I am sure, he is ashamed now and feels sorry


Van Persie Says:

Mat 4,

I am sure the guys woil like her :)


Margot Says:

@mat4
We need pick our battles, that’s true, because we can’t fight every battle. And I much prefer a quiet internet life.


anki Says:

So the draws can be fixed too? Shocking. This time, almost all the neutral tennis fans would love Nadal Novak final. So, I hope they both will be in different half.


Van Persie Says:

would not woil,
correction


jalep Says:

😯 a quiet peaceful internet 🦄 Margot. Bracket Challenge coming.

I’ve lost the plot at this point – duty calls. Sorry if there are posts I missed. Have to read later.


mat4 Says:

@Margot:

“Margot Says:

And I much prefer a quiet internet life.”

————————————-

Me too. 99% of the disputes here are unnecessary. jalep is right: I had no need to answer to lakie, and after that first answer to Giles, where I tried to explain that I wasn’t downgrading Rafa by stating that the draws were strange (he had very difficult draws himself), there was no need to go on.

I should have known better.


Van Persie Says:

Mat4,

I like Giles, he’s sincere :)


mat4 Says:

@Sarah:

I didn’t know that this expression was used in your language! It’s not used in French, and I doubt it exists in English.

It’s a good joke, anyway ;-)


RZ Says:

Everyone: take a deep breath and say “It’s only tennis and tennis opinions.” Repeat as often as needed until you feel calmer.


mat4 Says:

@RZ:

We know it. But we’re just human.


mat4 Says:

Jane once wrote that fandome was a strange land. How spot on she was!


RZ Says:

@mat4 – we are all human. But I’m beginning to think that many Tennis-X posters take everything way too seriously. I love tennis and commenting on this site, but neither is paying the bills!


Van Persie Says:

Glad I made You smile, Mat4 ;)


Margot Says:

@RZ
Perhaps we should all repeat: this virtual world is NOT real!
And, in fact we “know” very little about our fellow posters. A large proportion of whom are probably game playing anyway. IMnotsoHO.
VP said x and y were “honest.” They may well be, but she can’t possibly actually “know” that.


Dave Says:

Rz,

nice comment. Someone else commented about not liking the word Fan. I don’t like that word at all either. I don’t like what that word represents. I can like a certain player or a certain match. But I am not a fan of any person. Not by the definition of the word fan.


Van Persie Says:

Almost everybody speaks anout the other posters on ghis site. Nobody knows here, how the oyher poster really is. Very correct, Margot.
I could be Queen of England here tomorrow


Van Persie Says:

this site


RZ Says:

@Dave – I also think many of us have too many instances of being defensive and ready to jump on comments we disagree with. We all need to calm down. As much as I hate that song from Frozen, “Let It Go” is good advice!


Margot Says:

@VP
I was teasing a poster on here about all the men on the internet being “tall, dark and handsome” and the clever so and so managed to post a picture on here. And he was indeed “tall, dark and handsome.”
But was he?…..;)
Please wear your tiara tomorrow, ma’am.


Van Persie Says:

I know that you were joking, Margot ;)

Well, perhaps you will never find out, if he was for real :(
Tiara…haha, hope my colleagues will bow at work tomorrow, when they will see me. Including my boss :)


sisay Says:

strange writeup sean…i sometimes think you enjoy noles loses more than any nole haters on tx…remember at mc you write a post about his just one lose to vassely.


Van Persie Says:

Congrats Sisay, for talking about tennis ;)


Dave Says:

RZ,

Another good point. I think when you want to see someone achieve something big in tennis and other people want someone else to achieve the same thing, there is always going to be a clash with some people. This is a pressure filled time for wanting to see something big happen in tennis. And there is going to be only one winner. When is the next time a player is going to have an opportunity to get 10 slams at the same tournament? When is the next time someone is going to have the opportunity to hold all 4 slams at the same time? From a tennis standpoint, these are big achievements. There is no point in attacking people for wanting something different than another person. whatever happens happens in the end. Everyone will need to accept that. It will be much easier for people to accept it if the person they want to win, wins the French Open. That’s the thing about the future, you can’t predict it. It doesn’t matter how many weather reports I read or articles I read about different players, it’s all just speculation until it actually happens. That can be hard for many people to just sit back and accept and enjoy whatever outcome happens. Especially when something big could happen from a tennis standpoint.


Dave Says:

I forgot to add that it can be difficult at times, but it’s important to try and see the good in everyone. There are people in life and on this forum that we will naturally connect with more than others and that’s normal. But at the end of the day we can still respect each other even when we don’t agree.


J-Kath Says:

Well now goodness me. I don’t recall disagreement with Mat4. I do recall Mat.4 saying he used to be on a French thread and took a while to settle. I don’t recognise Mat4 tonight from Mat4 yesterday or day before.

I am assuming VP’s name is “Sarah”….

….by the way, Elizabeth is Queen of Wales (+ another 2 not worth mentioning countries).

Which brings me to a non-tennis subject which I for one welcome. The money spent by the British Gov. today on the Opening of Parliament with Elizabeth 1, (2nd of Scotland) and the cost of the pomp and ceremony would have fed the poor and nurtured the desperate throughout the UK for the next decade.

And to Green Lady: I miss you.


Okiegal Says:

@mat4 11:35……You am…..on a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being least of course…… you be a 10, but you have company! lol


chrisford1 Says:

Dave – “When is the next time a player is going to have an opportunity to get 10 slams at the same tournament? When is the next time someone is going to have the opportunity to hold all 4 slams at the same time?”

A Rafa Nole Final would be Huuuuge History. Now this is only a dream. The Draw may kill the possibility from the start. One might fall if they are in different halves. But Rafa is trying to feel like he is back 100% and exactly 2 years after his last FO win. Going for 10. His 50th meeting with his greatest rival.
Djokovic goes for a non-calendar year Grand Slam, a Career Grand Slam, going above 100 million, going past 200 weeks as #1, locking in his spot at the Barclay’s championships, completing his career sweep of all major clay events – all at the same tournament.
My personal take in this possible dream final is Rafa is almost better off not winning it. Getting 10 there and 1-2 at each other Slam would pigeonhole Rafa as a clay specialist who had far lesser success off clay – in the public perception 10, 20 years from now. But a YEC and a Slam anywhere else would brand Rafa as a true all court player.


Dave Says:

Chrisford1,

A final between these 2 would be the ultimate. There is a 50% chance they are on opposite sides of the draw. So it’s a 50/50 chance. I don’t agree about Rafa being looked at as a clay court specialist if he wins 10 French Opens. Why can’t he win here and win a major somewhere else after? As well as WTF? Why can’t he do both?


Dave Says:

GL,

Here is an awesome Ted Talk that I thought might cheer you up and you will enjoy. Guaranteed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaRO5-V1uK0


sisay Says:

next sean post “what is wrong with tennis x posters”???😀


Tennis Vagabond Says:

Margot – my apologies, of course Andy is in the thick of competition. I would put him very close to Rafa in 2nd tier. Kei third. Stan the wildcard.


Van Persie Says:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_I_of_England

JK, I wanna be that one :)

Sisay, I had some beers, do not know anout the others


RZ Says:

@sisay – hahaha good one!


Margot Says:

Ranking points so far in European Clay season:
Rafa 2040, 4 tournaments played
Andy 1960, 3 played
Nole 1,610, 3
Kei 1020, 3
The rest far behind.
Reference Paul Newman in “The Independent.” http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/tennis/andy-murray-among-the-favourites-to-win-french-open-after-learning-clay-court-lessons-a7032246.html
@sisay
Well…..it is the “dysfunctional tennis blog” after all…..


Van Persie Says:

Sisay, you are the nicest here ;) Hugs and kisses from me


RZ Says:

@Margot – Andy has the best (current) 52-week record on clay. http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/news/fedex-zone-2016-best-clay-records


Van Persie Says:

I have watched the policy..thee is no roule , you have to be sober while posting


Margot Says:

My goodness RZ :0
YAY!


Baa Says:

Nothing’s good enough for the fedalunatics.
If novak plays Rafa, it doesn’t matter to them because Novak’s so much more youthful than other 29-30 year olds on tour!
He can’t get revenge on their precious white knights in shining armor.
If Fed plays, it’s because he’s the most wonderful & most clever thing on Earth!
Fedal couple’s always a victim of “evil Novak” of the dark planet called Serbimpressions.


Okiegal Says:

@J-Kath 11:48….I agree that we fans and want more…. more….and more…..we’re a greedy lot! I think that is why Fed is attempting to play on…he wants the Connors record bad(most wins). Of course Rafa wants more and more, they all do…..GOAT CROWN is a good reason to press on. I just remember in 2013 when Rafa was written off and had the great comeback and then winning USO….he was so emotional. All those wins in 2013 meant so much more because he was supposedly finished…..he is in the same situation now. I think this is probably Novak’s time for the Frenchie, but he will be under tremendous pressure. He just got beat by Murray and that had to hurt, but he is still the guy with 16,000 points plus….That is mind boggling!! I am not gonna pick and choose regarding the FO……I think it is a toss up…. Murray is on a roll….and I think we will see a different Stan……and I hope Fed can play just wont
be the same w/o him….


J-Kath Says:

Van Persie @ 2.23….one of your best.
Van Persie (somewhere above)….You have a Boss…in name only, surely!
Van Persie…You want to be the virgin…
ahem, excuse my cough ….the virgin Queen?


Daniel Says:

Margot,

I am tall dark and handsome, don’t recall if it was me. If tou want prove check my insta @dcinefilo
Remind me of that Woody Allen movie placed in your land: You will meet a tall dark stranger😜

Mat4,

There are some people that say that all Soccer World Cups are rigged. That Brazil sold 1998 to France because they were in a crisis, same as Germany last one in Rio, and that Brazil will win the next World Cup. They even said that we would win 2002 after 1998 and so we did. A lot of conspiracy theories but they are fan to read.

Is better to do dirty laundry pre RG, depending on who wins RG (Novak, Nadal or Fed 😊), all hell will break loose. 😈


Van Persie Says:

oooh, yeah…forgot about that thing…well, I could quite fir one day, would that be enough? :D


sisay Says:

vp

thank for the beer but i prefer vodka lol…


mat4 Says:

@J-Kath:

It was some times ago. I like to make jokes with Margot about the French vs the Brits, but I didn’t really understand your comment. Hopefully, it was nothing serious, just an impression.


Van Persie Says:

my boss is a woman JK ;)


J-Kath Says:

Okie

I just don’t want a “spoiler” by Fed. I’m feeling oddly resentful on behalf of Rafa.


Van Persie Says:

yep Sisay, beer is not really good….I prefer wine


Van Persie Says:

off now…lovely evening to everybody ;)


Margot Says:

Daniel, wasn’t you, was Nikolai.
Of course allllllll men on the internet are thus, but we don’t really “know.”
A friend of mine communicated with a cove on the internet. He sent her a picture. OMG was he drop dead gorgeous.
Turns out it had been taken about 30 years previously.
ROFL. Did he not think she’d notice when they met?


Daniel Says:

Yeah Margot, internet feeds all kinds of freaks and seems to show the worst of people.

At least here we have a common goal, at least should be😜


J-Kath Says:

Mat 4: Loads of people love French wine…I’m about to decrease your national debt….maybe you enjoyed it very much the other day…no problem.

Van Persie: So?
Has this anything to do with being the Virgin Queen?

OK…am off now ….you be careful and work hard/or appear to.


Daniel Says:

I don’t unserstand why people semd worng pics or old ones. Doesn’t they get frustrated when they saw the look on the other persons face, in disbelied. I felt confident when I tried this things because I am not photogenic, better in real. But got in one bad hook up once. Awful and akward.


Giles Says:

I understand some posters have their photos on Tennis X. I’d like to have a look. How do I do that? Can someone tell me please?


Okiegal Says:

@ Giles The bracket challenge has some pix on it. Wog Boy posted his one time via a link in his comment. If you happen to be on a FB account, lots of pix there. I would do bracket challenge and post a pic of myself but dumb old lady here and don’t have a clue!LOL I would use a pic of me in my OKLAHOMA University shirt….fitting attire for OKIEGAL!!


courbon Says:

I have not read comments since noon and…my God, hell broke loose and we have this Freudian saga going on.Obviously, i hear first time about jalep ‘being’ Laki, Gl in war mat4, Van Persie is dillusional football player who think he is a Queen….woooahh.
Dysfunctional blog indeed….
J-Kath-Aristocracy spending money is nothing new…but what about Scotish Parlament that was suppose to cost 40m but on the end costed 400m? And all organized by righteous Labour and Patriotic SNP?
People are all the same-Queen,politician,builder…if is not your money, it’s easy to spend


Giles Says:

Okie. Where’s the bracket challenge?


Temple Says:

I’m willing to accept any bets against Novak and Rafa meeting ONLY in the final of RG 2016.

This is going to be labeled as “La Decima VS La Primera”. There are more chances of SETI finding extraterrestrial life until Friday than Novak and Rafa meeting before the finals in this years French Open.


mat4 Says:

@Daniel:

I watched the match France-Brésil in 1998, and I thought that your players were drugged. In football, we have the testimony of international umpires, national teams’ coaches, famous players, so, if it doesn’t look fishy. There is way too much money in it not to cheat.

In tennis, since there are so much tournaments, it’s easy to detect statistical aberrations. And I tend to agree with Dave, that since a final Djoko-Rafa would be a potential blockbuster, with so much on the line, they won’t land in the same half.

J-Kath, let’s have another try, with that in mind (in ten tries I should explore all the possibilities, I guess).

qf1 Djokovic Tsonga
qf2 Wawrinka Berdych
qf3 Federer Nadal
qf4 Murray Nishikori


Travis Bickle Says:

Here is my FO draw prediction (just click on my name).

Also, my photo is there for my buddy Giles to see!


Dave Says:

qf1-Djokovic vs Nadal
qf2-Wawrinka vs Nishikori
qf3-Federer vs Tsonga
qf4-Murray vs Berdych

This is the absolute worst case scenario for Djokovic. And it’s possible it could happen.


Dave Says:

Of course I don’t want this to happen. But if draws are truly legit and random, this could happen. It’s not ideal for Nadal or Djokovic. But it’s ideal for Murray and Federer. Of course the opposite could happen and Djokovic gets the easier half this time around.


mat4 Says:

J-Kath: I am a teetotaller since a few years ago. No wine, unfortunately.

Nobody can help us with our debt…


Daniel Says:

Dave,

I highly doubt that Nadal and Kei would be at the same side as #5 and 6. Same as Berdych and Tsonga.


Daniel Says:

La Decima vs Four in a row. It is not just Djoko’s first Garros but holding 4 Slams at the same time, something not achieved since late 60′s. The hype would be unbelievable. We know for sure in less than 48 hours.


Daniel Says:

A great draw for Djoko at this point would be Fed in semis (may not reach that far) with Kei in Fed’s qaurters and Berdych in his Quarters (may not reach that far).

Even Kei playing great as late could lose before semis so he would’t have to play ant of this top 8.

Othe side with Murray x Tsonga and Nadal x Wawa and Murray versus winner semis.

For Djoko Murray and Nadal playkng semis qould be ideal, as that contest may be epic and ling draining match.


J-Kath Says:

Courbon

Sure…why not, the English were spending like Midas – SNP minority with big Labour in Scotland. No responsibility, nobody with authority. Nobody accountable. Compared to the maintenance costs of the MAINTENANCE of the Houses of Parliament a snitch at the price. Now then, in France…….hehehe.

Mat4: At the end of your self-imposed task, you need to decide on your favoured scenario. Then I’ll bet on it.


courbon Says:

J-Kath-Oh, do not get my wrong-it was not a dig at Scotish politicians-English worst-French-absolutely the worst.They are all the same!
Keep drinking wine please,it may be a drop in the Ocean to help our GDP, but as Tesco would say: “Every little helps…’


mat4 Says:

J-Kath:

Don’t bet on my choice. Guy Forget is the new director of Roland Garros. I believe that, for the first time in 10 years, we will have a honest draw at the FO.

Gachassin in under police investigation. Christian Bîmes was also corrupted, and nobody knows why Gilbert Ysern was fired. But there obviously was too many murky affairs in the federation. If the old team had remained, I would have bet myself for a Djokovic-Nadal in QF, an easy draw for Federer and Tsonga.

Now, I don’t really know.


RZ Says:

@Giles and Okie – the bracket challenge will be up later this week (tomorrow or more realistically on Friday). I will post it on several threads so that everyone has a chance to join.


J-Kath Says:

Courbon
I didn’t get you wrong. I myself was pissed at the cost of the Parliament…..SNP were blamed, then Labour was blamed etc. etc. I do get annoyed at “pass the parcel” etc. and where the buck rests is never properly admitted to…

Matt4
If I did bet, I wouldn’t hold you responsible. I wasn’t actually planning to do so….it’s just something one says.

Travis: You present as a studious, serious handsome young man. I am sad to hear your life is blighted by the issues mentioned. Difficult to believe you can pen some of the text with which you have shocked and then often separately amused with. I did say Jekyll and Hyde…and hope I didn’t add to your condition. I also hope you have some close family and friends. Apologies for putting this on a Tennis thread, but I’m not a devotee of the social networks.


Okiegal Says:

How can a draw be rigged? Aren’t there a lot of people there? Doesn’t the number ones of WTA and ATP do the draw?? When I read about rigged draws I do not see how this could be possible. That would mean if someone was drawn out of the pool that the powers that be didn’t want, they would say we don’t want that one, draw another one……..could someone explain to me how this is plausible??


Okiegal Says:

Thanks, RZ….I might try to find a 3rd grader to show me how to do one!! Lol


Okiegal Says:

@mat4…..I’m a t-toteler too, but wondering if a little snort before bedtime might help me sleep. My insomnia is getting worse. Used to go to bed at 2 or 3 and now it’s 3 or 4….Sunday night it was 7:30. Will getting tipsy make you sleep better? I don’t want the spinning ceiling and stuff……lol


ABerg Says:

Djokovic season is starting to look like 2012. He won MC, lost his first match in Madrid, lost quarter to Berdych… hopefully he restores the balance.


Okiegal Says:

What is wrong with Novak?? Nothing is wrong with his game….just feeling the nerves that being under pressure brings on…..Regarding Andy, he has upped his level of play….maybe he doesn’t even need a coach????


chrisford1 Says:

Novak’s dad out on the court doing some warmups with Novak in Rome last week. Note the Federeresque backhand.

https://youtu.be/y82ynLVsseI


mat4 Says:

@Okie:

I used to have a glass of red wine, or a digestive before sleeping. It wasn’t bad. But I stopped drinking because I am ill.

I watched the draw ceremony when it was possible. First, most of the players are placed in the draw by a computer. Here, there’s absolutely no way to check what has been done.

Then, the person who draw the numbers often just draw the paper and give it to a clerk who opens it and reads it. He shows it briefly to the public.

Now look at this link carefully. There’s at least two ways of cheating, especially since you have to do it just a few times.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0R9a49qSQE


Travis Bickle Says:

Dear J-Kath,

Thank you very much for your sincere compassion. I deal with the issues that blight me in a private manner and try hard not to mention them to posters here because “playing a victim” is not my cup of tea.

I am glad my writing amused you, but I am equally (if not more) glad that some of it shocked you!

Unfortunately, no family, but please do not pity me! I saved this teenage girl Iris from her exploitative pimps a while ago, and her parents consider me their son out of sincere gratitude. And Iris is doing well too, she is now attending a law school! More than enough for me. It would be nice if Djoker bagged that FO though…


Vami Says:

Do yourself a favour and read these predictions written by an extraordinary tennis expert Mr. Reddy.
http://www.frenchopenlive.org/2016/02/french-open-predictions.html

1. Roger: “this man is mostly first in my list to win the title this year”
2. Novak: “There are no words to describe this Siberian player”
3. Stan: “The range of shots, the use of forehand, diving from right to left of the court and lots more made him a perfect player in the recent past”
4. Andy:”Although, he didn’t seem to trouble the Siberian at Aus Open, he can change the gears at any point of time.”
5. Rafael: “Since 2005, he has never given a chance to win the French Open grand slam title, except 2009 and 2015.”


lakie Says:

mat4 I won’t break your heart by going away. Oh in my earlier post I forgot to add your 3rd pet theme
3) Draws are rigged.

Incidentally is Travis Bickle your sock puppet?


lakie Says:

So Djokovic has become a Siberian player? Anyway some of his fans deserve to be sent to Siberia. No prizes for guessing who.


Okiegal Says:

Thanks mat4……I will check out the rigging link and also the red wine…..sorry you are ill, btw. Hope you are getting treatment for your infirmity and you will soon get better. Okie


chrisford1 Says:

Travis – Pretty damn funny about “Iris”!! Missed your list of maladies and troublesome issues. If any were sincere, my condolences.
Maybe there is a little too much stoicism, especially in males, but part of that I think is, from ancient times on, for social adaptation & grace. Life is tough and often when people get together there is a “code” based on the setting that people want to hear a Big Problem obviously impacting a person of course – but not every little trial and tribulation. Or constant spiels on one’s personal politics, and things that “offend!”.
Especially in social gatherings meant to be diversionary, that exist people people need diversion, recreation, escape from everyday life.
No one really wants to play “Internet cop” save the tools that believe it is their mission to control expression of other’s thoughts they disagree with. But some pushback is needed , say when a Climate Change website has two posters using it as a chatroom for a Playstation video war game both play. TRY to keep it on topic, no one cares about your allergy, and if it is a music site “Shut Up And Sing!!”.


Dave Says:

I must have missed it all. What happened to Travis? Is he okay?


Margot Says:

Dave: Travis is fine, no really. It’s just driving a New York taxi for 40 years surely drives everyone insane in the end?
And……talking of out of date photos…..;)


Van Persie Says:

JK,

Thank you for worrying for me yerterday. I arrived safe at work.
The virginity thing, why do insist so much on this topic? Wanna have a chat about sex?


Van Persie Says:

CF1,

Great post. The problem is, that there are to many here, who are monitoring, what others say.


Danica Says:

Travis,
You talking to me? :)


Venkat Reddy Says:

This is such a huge post and I loved reading about Novak Djokovic here. So there’s nothing wrong with him, it’s all about the time he is going through. That’s it!


Okiegal Says:

Travis BIckle is the name of Robert DiNiro’s character in the movie Taxi Driver…Jodie Foster was cast as Iris…..Will the “real” Travis Bickle step forward please??? Lol 🎭🎭🎭


J-Kath Says:

VP: I’m worried about you, so I must deal with you first. You directed me to a Virgin Queen site…that means the “rabbit” thing was set aside immediately. It signalled to me that you wanted to be a good girl. If I’m wrong, try Victoria next time.

And you’ll forgive me if I can’t tell you anything about myself, it’s all copyrighted for 50 years minimum. Shame, huh?


Giles Says:

TB. I have seen your pic on your twitter a/c, very thoughtful of you to post it again for my benefit. So, what’s a good looking guy like you doing with that filthy mouth? Maybe something to do with your insomnia and depression? Hope you get well soon! Cheers.


Van Persie Says:

“And you’ll forgive me if I can’t tell you anything about myself, it’s all copyrighted for 50 years minimum. Shame, huh?”

JK, Tbh…I really do not care.


Van Persie Says:

But I will PC now and thank you for sharing this information ;)


Van Persie Says:

correction: will be PC


mat4 Says:

@lakie:

I knew you wouldn’t leave since you can’t obviously live without me. It’s also quite clear that you agree with me, since you never give any arguments against my assertions.

Once again, you were right: when I think about it, I am very thankful you’re reading my long posts. Yes, I admit that Twitter is not for me, and that I actually sometimes try to say something. Not always, of course. You just made an error there: I am not obsessed by Nadal — but rather by Murray, who could be an improved version of Djokovic. The crux of the matter is not always in what people say, but in what they don’t say.

I am also starting to think that I know you under another moniker. Sometimes, perfect strangers can know each other very well.


J-Kath Says:

VP

I’m going into a deep depression now…so sad, so sad………


Van Persie Says:

Well JK, I do not have to tell you what’s good against depression and head aches :) You know it since 50 years


J-Kath Says:

Dave

Re. Travis….if you hit on his name it will take you to his
Twitter account….


J-Kath Says:

Thank you VP: So kind…..I’ve never had a headache so this is a new experience for me…..I’m one of those cheerful types where a laugh is all the medicine I need….and thank you for supplying the material.


Van Persie Says:

“I’ve never had a headache”…perhaps there is no head. You must be lucky…Teasing You now, JK

Glad I made you smile, it was a good chuckle for me too ;)

P.S. Will take the Victoria name into consideration. I love the name and have the greatest appreciation for that women :)


J-Kath Says:

Vami: I liked the photos on your link….Rafa stunning, Nole, his usual good pic., Stan-very interesting; Roger- Smug and Andy—-oh dear-a-me…….a too-close clos-up.


lakie Says:

TB has no real photo, no real life. Poor guy is forced to take on the life and identity of a misfit from a movie! Pathetic.


Vami Says:

@JK
The photos are all outdated as the brain of Mr. Reddy.
Andy is actually the coolest of the 5, I really mean it. I like his dry humor. That doesn’t translate into me believing that he’s a great clay court player, but that’s only my opinion.


J-Kath Says:

Certainly, includes some different elements – And said in a very respected newspaper too, Jane.


lakie Says:

TB is 66, pretending to be 27 and posting a picture 40 years out of date! tsk tsk! TB you must be poor. Rich old men in their 60s or 70s pretend to be in their 90s in order to attract young women!


lakie Says:

mat4 my favorites are the big 4 with Djokovic usually in the doghouse because of his fans. Currently I am passing through a phase of nostalgia and Federer love. I think the name Feddy Bear coined by some of his fans is so appropriate. He seems cute and cuddly and his outspokenness at his press conferences is so entertaining and endearing!


Baa Says:

These fed loons are such incoherent sycophants.
No one cares for your fraud insults, hallucinations and mock outrage posts.
Fed is not going to ridicule Novak.
He thinks very highly of himself, his ugly dolls & muppets, but he sucks.
No one is forcing him to play for years.
That’s just too bad.


Daniel Says:

Federer just withdrawn from RG, he announced in his FB page. Another streak gone, hope he recovers in time for grass.

With this, Nadal bumped to 4 and Raonic to 8. The only Quarers opponent now novody wants is Kei, who ever gets him get an easy draw.

If Djoko gets wawa in his semis and Berdy or Raonic on hos quarters he gets a super easy draw. Wawa won’t make it that far neither will Berdych (whoch Djoko own byw).

Murray and Nadal to battlw in semis and Djoko facing who ever comes alive in finals.
Suddenly things can get way more interesting for him.


jalep Says:

Stranger things have happened, lakie hahahaha ( going soft on Feddy Bear)
Why is it every time I read you I think of Nadalista? But I was wrong before so…strange that I miss Nadalista so much. Must be nostalgia?
Although, I was close when I finally figured out who elina was . I’m not good at this, tho, sleuthing.

Better stick to tennis, in my case.

Enjoyed that link very much, jane.

Sad to see Karen Khachanov didn’t make it through qualifying. I like that tall, young Russian.

And Sascha beat Gillou in Nice!! Woot, he’s into the semi-final there. That’s good because I doubt he gets any luck when FO main draw comes out…might as will go all in in Nice.


jalep Says:

Wow, sorry to hear that about Federer, Daniel – also very relieved to hear it.


J-Kath Says:

Well done Roger. You weren’t fit and by withdrawing before the draw you have displayed good sportmanship. Get well.


jalep Says:

From jane’s link:

Nole says:

Finally, when asked if he thought of himself as a robot, a machine, or a superhero, he said, ‘Oh, none of this. I love to be natural. I love to built things from scratch, launch new ideas and put some foundations with the hope of passing something. I want to live the reality of life. The secret of my cold-bloodedness? It’s the result of the long process that brought to maturity to me as a player and man. It came with the experience of the matches I played at a high level. Wanting to win and attaining my goal allowed me to give my best on the court, finding new motivations and inspirations.’

Best of luck to him. 👍


Giles Says:

Joker is FOS!


django Says:

Haha Travis, love de Niro and your humor!


Vami Says:

So jalep the other day used the term “doghouse” (WG and TB are in the dog house) and now lakie is doing the same in this thread (Djokovic’s fans are in the doghouse). It looks like Wog Body wasn’t drunk after all and he was actually onto something?


jalep Says:

Vami.

No. I don’t know who lakie is.
I have a hunch, but instead of making an *** of myself prematurely guessing, as I have before, will let time run its course.
We clearly have a difference of opinion but it’s the internet, who knows!

Rosol won btw. So it’s Stan v Rosol in Geneva.


jalep Says:

Hone your detective skills, Vami. But having a history, a long history of posting on a blog helps. Also try not to ‘make’ a suspect be someone you want them to be because you are angry. Let time reveal who is who.


J-Kath Says:

Vami

Thanks for that. Hope that means Andy looks so much better…when you see wedding photos, he looks great..


J-Kath Says:

jalep @ 3.13

Prefer Sienna rather than the latest incomer.


jalep Says:

I prefer Sienna to Travis Bickle, JK. It makes me angry that he bullied GL away from here. But not angry enough to hold a dang grudge forever like some are avowed to do! It’s the internet. But like, GL, I don’t do social media either, so when a ‘friend’ is lost to bullying, there’s no checking on them. Will have to see if she returns.

If GL turns up on the bracket challenge, I’ve decided to give her my email.


jalep Says:

have vowed to do. not avowed.


Okiegal Says:

Social media getting a bad rap…..it has it’s drama, but no worse than TX……FB has lots of good points. I get tennis reports because I am a fan of Rafa. It is true that a lot of political stuff that’s showing up on my timeline…..but you can hide those sites or just skip over them like I do. You can watch your family’s and friends children grow up through pics that have been posted. I love it….it has it’s good points along with the bad!!


jalep Says:

Okiegal, I’m probably in the minority – having had a bad enough experience on FB to not go back. I was pretty much addicted to FB.

It’s not a bad idea at all for GL. I’m glad you are enjoying it. My friends and family text me or use email. That’s good enough for me right now.


J-Kath Says:

@ Jalep
Travis was not alone .. he did have a regular following here. He was often amusing which I and and many others acknowledged and many mentioned that he gave them a laugh. In relation to GL – yes it signalled a step too far…and however much we all wanted to help, how far can other commenters step out of their comfort zone which was sometimes laughter at TB’s jokes and other times disgust at what he said to GL?

Some have said GL was too open – I didn’t actually think that was the problem. I just hoped she could respond appropriately and I thought her last comment “YAWN” was perfect. I doubt she’ll find it any easier on FB as some of the same people might be involved. Of course Okie will be there for her…

I think we also need to recognise that some of those who think they own morality is superior to others have also managed to lose us Wogboy.

Nothing is black and white and I am uncomfortable with a situation that means you can’t communicate on certain levels with everyone because one of them may have upset one of your TX friends. We’ll end up like FB. Closeted.


jalep Says:

Think what you want. It’s your opinion. I didn’t lose you your precious Wog.Boy. I’m in no doubt of that– he sw
ore an implacable revenge on me lol…no sympathy here.

And, accused me of indecency and being a sock puppet. I guess your morality has no problem with that.


jalep Says:

You know nothing about my FB case. It’s not comparable to Tennis X.


J-Kath Says:

Jalep

Didn’t realise you were involved with the Wogboy incident.


jalep Says:

What??


jalep Says:

Maybe you didn’t read the Birthday Boy Andy thread?


J-Kath Says:

Jalep

I do apologise for upsetting you. I thought there was a whole pile of back and forth tough comments made by virtually the entire TX commentatores (and didn’ recall you as part of it) that I stopped reading each time I saw another….and it seemed it was outright war between everyone on the thread.

It is what I said above…it is very uncomfortable for commentators who are not involved who may happen to have friendly relationships with all the combatants to help, ignore, view the results.


jalep Says:

There’s no problem with you loving Wog Boy and Travis Bickle. I don’t. You do.

Wog Boy will return, I assure you.


J-Kath Says:

I just flicked thru it and saw trouble….it was late and saw Wogboy was mad….and that’s as far as I knew about it. Apart from the fact that not only was GL leaving (separate issue) but also a regular poster, Wogboy was leaving….the thread was threading.

It’s after midnight for me. Take care.


jalep Says:

You too. JK


J-Kath Says:

I was about to sign off. But not fair at all for you to state that I love Wog Boy and TB. I tolerate TB and I like WB and I continue to like you. Do I have to choose?


Okiegal Says:

Yes, JK I will have GL’s back….she has a kind soul

I have never had an encounter on FB that even comes close to what I have seen on TX…… some very nasty encounters. JK you obviously did not read what went on between WB and jalep….he made a huge mistake …I will take up for her too….another nice poster who seems to be liked by everyone. I would feel terrible if I was the reason for someone leaving a forum……..


jalep Says:

There’s absolutely no problem as far as I’m concerned. Well, would be nice if you realize I’m not the bad guy/gal here and think my doorknob needs a garlic treatment.

To JK.

Prefer to talk tennis but I am upset.


Vami Says:

Elisabeth from Oregon @ 3:13
My detective skills are just fine, don’t worry. And I’m not angry at anybody including you, I just find it strange (even for the anonymous internet chat) that somebody would go that far.
When you started posted as jalep you denied that you were actually the same person as contador. See, I’ve been around longer than what you may think. I rally liked contador, jalep not so much (whoever adds more oil to Giles’ BS I have no respect at all), while laike is a total disaster. So a racist is fine but TB is not?
I have a song for you
https://youtu.be/VJNcnDLWNis


jalep Says:

Well, that’s about as creepy as it gets, Vami.

Should I expect a sudden video chat with you as well?


jalep Says:

I never denied that I was / am still contador. Ask mat4. he can vouch for that.


jalep Says:

I’m also ratcliff on Tenngrand – come visit me there, Vami.

There’s no secret who I am. But it’s not lakie!


Tennis Vagabond Says:

I had no idea you were contador. Yet I always thought it suspicious you were never in the same room together.


jalep Says:

Oh TV. I thought you knew. All I could talk about was Tour de France last summer. Cycling is my other obsession.


AndyMira Says:

Hey Jalep,i am so sorry to hear you have had a bad experience with FB..if you have one,i want to add you as my friend there..but it’s okay..Jalep..the idea of me and okie wants GL to get involve with FB is that,we can reach her on private setting..we can talk and give her support especially in a time like this..it’s really help to have a friend who’s very understanding and talk to when we needed to..but i guess it’s up to GL now to decide..Good day jalep..


jalep Says:

I’ll do whatever I can , AndyMira. She’s a bracket challenge ace. She’ll be there. Good day to you.


AndyMira Says:

Oh Jalep..i didn’t know you’re obsessed with cycling?I was once,but sorry i rooted for Andy schleck..oh..but what a race in 2010 right?It’s amazing..


jalep Says:

It’s okay! Maybe I wasn’t a Schleck fan in 2010 but I wish he could have kept competimg. Giro d’Italia and spring classics are the best races imo.


jalep Says:

I miss Andy Schleck


AndyMira Says:

Oh Jalep..i miss him too..after he left the tour,my desire to see the race are gone with him..i wish he could stay and race a little bit longer..but his rivalry with contador were like rafa vs novak..he he


Vami Says:

Sorry Jalep, not interested in chatting with you at all, especially on skype (you couldn’t take my good looks, you’d feel inadequate and depressed). This is the last post to you, from now on I’m skipping your posts. As far as creepy goes, you asked for it (I like challenges).

You work in a medical field and I understand that you may have a soft spot for people with mental issues (Skeez, GL). The best man at my wedding committed suicide due to depression, I know how serious it is and I would never ever make fun of Skeeze or GL (I did once of GL as she provoked it but I had no clue at the time how down she was, I’d usually skip her posts anyway). But, you posting under different name just to get rid of “incorrect” (in you mind) posters is plain weird.

I’m on the other hand very sensitive to racism (being a minority). I’ve been around for a long time but started posted recently (out of boredom?) and don’t care if somebody would like me or not. A certain Novak supporter (right wing, everything is black and white, that 2009 match almost destroyed Rafole etc.) insulted me so I changed my name to Vami. Sean being Sean, had no problem with the racism but when he checked my IP he couldn’t resist but to make fun of me. The racism was just fine, hey, let’s make fun of this minority! It tells you a lot about this site and people who run it. I Hope Novak will win RG. I’m not sure you feel the same.


Travis Bickle Says:

Paging Tennis X moderator…
Paging Tennis X moderator…

I just realized my comments are being moderated, and also Giles’ comments are being moderated!
Come on, you tolerate all kinds of delusional personal insults from sock-puppeting posters (see my exhibit #1 on this thread May 19, 9:51am), yet you moderate me!?! Is that not overly hypocritical Mr. Moderator?

Or you are acting based on reports by overly sensitive folks and take their “facts” as an absolute truth. There was a recent case when a woman in an American Airlines plane accused an Ivey League professor with dark skin complexion who was doing math in the seat beside her, of terrorism. The worst thing was they believed her and returned the plane and took the poor guy out before they realized the woman is just an ignorant xenophobic tool, apologized to the professor and started the plane few hours later. Your moderation of my posts (and Giles’ ones) reminds me of this incident.
Many folks here will testify that my post entertain them and, sometimes even, they contain some tennis substance. Giles is also entertaining – he hates Djoker with passion and is fairly straight forward in his insults, i.e. not a hypocrite at all.

On the other hand, you have the posters like my Exhibit #1 above, and you let them pass. There is even debate going on this thread who are these posters and why they keep changing their nicknames – I cannot think of honest reasons to do that – only deception…

Let me reiterate, I am not asking to censor post like my Exhibit #1 above; I’m all for total freedom of expression – but you should not moderate me and Giles in that case. This way letting some personal insults pass and moderating some posters’ every post is making you look like hypocrites.
I really like this site and Tennis X should do better on that front.

Thanks for publishing this post, after carefully reading and approving it through your moderation!


jalep Says:

AndyMira, for you. Andy Schleck’s finest stage! TDF 2011

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-gAzbi5OfU

12 minutes, enjoy!


jalep Says:

I do feel the same, Vami. Hoping Nole wins — very much.

Not sure what the problem is. Was teasing about video chat.

If I recall you like Noam Chomsky? (Maybe it was someone else) I thought we did have a couple things in common. But, as you like. It’s not that I agree with Giles, it’s just that I think the moderation here is screwy. None of us are perfect. Cheers.


AndyMira Says:

hey jalep,thanks for the link..it’s awesome..it’s shame i can just enjoy their rivalry for just a short of time..oh..well..


jalep Says:

Yeah, there’s nothing as exciting right now as the Contadaor/Schleck rivalry in cycling.

But I think Rafa has a very real chance at La Decima. I’ll be happy for him. But I hope Nole gets it this year — it only gets harder next year and the next…

Cheers AndyMira


AndyMira Says:

Yeah jalep..whoever get’s it..they deserve it..if Andy win..okay for me..if rafa win YEE HAA..all the better `and if novak win..he’s certainly deserve it as well..they’re all earn it to get there..cheers to you as well jalep..


Dave Says:

Jalep,

Andy Schleck was my favorite. I remember when I was so annoyed when Contador didn’t show any sportmanship when Andy’s chain fell off of his bike. It was all about being an opportunist that day.


lakie Says:

I am sad GL left. But I won’t shed any tears for Wog Boy. He was totally out of line. As for TB, if he has left, it is because he has been outed as an old man! He had attacked Okie because of her age and it turns out he is in her age group. Poor grandpa TB! Probably has got more depressed and gone into a Retirement home.


Vami Says:

@Jalep
Yes, Chomsky is the man. I promised not to ever again reply back to you but for Chomsky I had to do it. I just watched the other day “Requiem for the American Dream”. Sometimes I wonder if it makes any sense to watch or read these eye openers, it’s easier to be dumb and ignorant.


chrisford1 Says:

Chomsky is a brilliant man who would have flourished in the Soviet Union under the Bolsheviks but probably executed eventually as his Syndicalism challenged the concept of the dictatorship of the proletariat.
Chomsky – born in the USA. In the wrong place, at the wrong time. Poor him. Not really so bad, being American. Escaped the fate of other Jews in WWII, has been worshipped as a leftist Prophet for opposing various wars, but a peripheral figure outside activist Lefties..


Okiegal Says:

@lakie……There’s probably a lot of old buzzards on
here to go with a few of us old pea hens…….I don’t have a problem with being old…..the other alternative is very bleak……lol


lakie Says:

okie you and GL are so genuine. I admire your courage.
Anyway now we can look forward to two weeks of glorious tennis and let us hope we all feel happy when we watch the champion lift La Coupe des Mousquetaires.


Okiegal Says:

@lakie…..Thank you lakie. I appreciate that nice compliment. I am glad you perceive me to be that type of person because….. I am!

Yes, lots of tennis ahead to look forward to. I hope it is a good competitive tournament and I am ready for it…..I love the French Open…..I won’t go into why……LOL


Margot Says:

@Travis
Most of the time I like your posts with their sharp humour. But not when they’re directed at GL. Man , she’s far too “soft” a target, wears her heart on her sleeve. And you and VP don’t like that, fair enough. But I find loads of comments/conversations on here irritating and I usually pass swiftly by. Unless someone is unnecessarily dissing Andy, which of course is an entirely different matter.
I don’t know why Giles is still being moderated either. Likes Rafa, doesn’t like Nole. So what?


Van Persie Says:

Margot,

Very classy post. I know, it is for Travis, but since you have mentioned my “name”, I reply ;)

It is no problem for me to ignore GL’s posts, as long she will also ignore my posts and she will stop mentioning me in the majority of her ones. I tend to believe, that she somehow provoqued this attacks by constantly mentioning Travis, me, and others.
She even called me a “racist” without evidence. Should this happen again. Beeing accused for racism without evidence is a serious matter. Should she do it again, I will also apply her strategy and call for moderation or I will report it to Tennis X.


J-Kath Says:

The draw is supposed to take place 10.00 GMT. I bet we all end up thinking our favourite’s quarter/half is the toughest…..


RZ Says:

Posting on multiple threads so everyone has a chance to see this….

The racket bracket challenge has been created! Enter at http://www.tourneytopia.com/RacquetBracketFrench
OpenATP/TennisXFrenchOpenBracket/default.aspx. If you see a pic of Andy on the yoga ball, you are in the right place.

Entries need to be made by May 22 at 5am ET – that’s less than 2 days so get cracking! If you are using a different name on the bracket challenge, please leave a comment with your Tennis-X name so we know who you are.


Giles Says:

TB. May 19th 9.05 pm. Gee thanks TB for speaking up for me. Really appreciate it.
BTW you do know my one sin in life is hating on joker. Is that such a big deal ?
Cheers 😄


Pamela Says:

Thanks RZ!


Vami Says:

@CF1
Man, leave Chomsky alone. Plenty of other fish out there. Perhaps you should try Trump, just a suggestion? Have you ever actually read anything from the man beside his Wiki page? I mean from Chomsky, not Trump.

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