Novak Djokovic v Dominic Thiem, Andy Murray v Stan Wawrinka; French Open SFs Picks And Pans
by Sean Randall | June 2nd, 2016, 6:29 pm
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We are down to just four. And really, it’s not much of a surprise who’s still standing in the men’s bracket of the 2016 French Open. We have the usuals Novak Djokovic and Andy Murray plus the defending champion Stan Wawrinka. And the new guy, Dominic Theim, who takes the spot of the injured Rafael Nadal.

And Thiem is more than well deserving. The 22-year-old leads the men’s tour in clay wins and has victories on that surface over both Nadal and Roger Federer.

Earlier today, Thiem overcame a set down to beat his buddy David Goffin 4-6, 7-6(7), 6-4, 6-1 to advance to his first career Grand Slam semifinal. Goffin dictated early, forcing Thiem to press but then the Austrian turned up the power and from what I saw – which wasn’t much – was able to hit through the heavy court. It was some bruising tennis for a while there from Thiem who really benefits from the time the heavy clay gives him.

“Honestly in the whole second set I didn’t really think that I’m going to win this match, because he was just on top of me. He was the better player the first two sets maybe, or until the tiebreak,” Thiem said.

“I didn’t know what to do because he was returning well. He didn’t do any mistakes. Then I think the tiebreak was one of the highest levels I was ever playing. Things kind of turned around.”

While that was going on, Tennis Channel focused its coverage on Novak Djokovic’s straight forward win over Tomas Berdych 6-3, 7-5 6-3 (and later Serena).

Berdych was down early and we knew what was coming. About the only suspense was if there would be a rain delay – and there was! Honestly, it was a pretty flat match.

“In these conditions, it’s good to have the [drop shot] in your game. Particularly when I play a player like Tomas. I tried to expose his movement and his weaknesses,” said Djokovic. “I’m very pleased to be in semifinals of another Grand Slam, but because I have to play every day, my focus is on recovery and the next match. I don’t have much time, really.”

So both semifinals are set in soggy Paris. Now for some picks for Friday.

Novak Djokovic v Dominic Thiem
Djokovic has won both meetings with the Austrian, but this is their first collision on clay, so that should help Dominic here. But that doesn’t swing the match enough in his favor. Novak’s still the better man and Thiem agrees.

“It’s going to be unbelievably tough,” Thiem said. “I think he’s a little bit on a different level than all the other players, but still I’m in good shape and the match starts at 0-0. I’m going to do it like the whole tournament: I just go out, I will give my best and focus 100%. Then I will see the outcome.”

And while I give Dominic a real chance, I think the outcome here is Djokovic. The experience, the motivation and with what’s on the line all point Novak. If it is wet and heavy again, that should help Thiem. But I just feel like he’s not going to be able to slug it out with Novak so far back in the court, if he is that far back. Especially if Novak gets the drop shots going again.

“[Thiem] is one of the leaders of the new generation,” Djokovic said. “I’m sure he’s very motivated to show himself and others that he deserves to be at the top and compete for biggest titles.

“He’s playing the best tennis of his life, no doubt about it. The results are showing that. He plays with a lot of speed, a lot of power. I’m sure he’s going to give it his all in the semis. But I have something to fight for as well. It’s going to be a good one.”

And I also wonder about Thiem’s mental fatigue. Making a first Slam quarterfinal, then semifinal on back-to-back days, might take a little toll. Maybe.

Meanwhile, Novak should be in shape for this last push.

That said, we are due for one of these young guys to breakthrough, aren’t we? It’s got to happen…

So I think as Novak says it should be a good one and if Thiem doesn’t win Friday, I think eventually he will.
The pick: Djokovic in four

Stan Wawrinka v Andy Murray
In arguably the main event, two guys who combined to win the Career Slam, Wawrinka and Murray battle again. And while Murray leads in this one 8-7, it’s Wawrinka who’s come out ahead winning the last three under Magnus Norman.

This is a real tough match to pick. On one hand Stan is defending champion and after a speed bump in the first round he’s looked quite good.

The same for Murray. He was shaky early but has played much better since.

Both have their negatives. Stan hasn’t beaten a single player of note – and he hasn’t beaten a Top 10er all year! Murray did have his struggles with “not that Borg” and Radek Stepanek. And he should be thankful Richard Gasquet is who he is. And wins over Ivo Karlovic and John Isner, well.

And Stan also has never lost to Murray on clay, 2-0. However, I’m going to stick with Murray largely because Stan just hasn’t had that big win this year. And Murray has that fire going in his belly.

So in a toss up, I’ll go with Andy.
The pick: Murray in 5

NBC and the Tennis Channel will air the women’s semifinals first, then the men’s as they play the semifinals at the same time.

It should be a good day/morning of tennis. Let’s just hope Mother Nature cooperates.

FRIDAY FRENCH OPEN SEMIFINAL SCHEDULE
Philippe-Chatrier Court 1:00 PM Start
Serena Williams (USA)[1] vs. Kiki Bertens (NED)
Not Before: 3:00 PM
Stan Wawrinka (SUI)[3] vs. Andy Murray (GBR)[2]

Suzanne-Lenglen Court 1:00 PM Start
Garbine Muguruza (ESP)[4] vs. Samantha Stosur (AUS)[21]
Not Before: 3:00 PM
Novak Djokovic (SRB)[1] vs. Dominic Thiem (AUT)[13]


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201 Comments for Novak Djokovic v Dominic Thiem, Andy Murray v Stan Wawrinka; French Open SFs Picks And Pans

Dave Says:

Djokovic in 4 sets.

Wawrinka in 4 sets.


Dave Says:

But wouldn’t be surprised if Djokovic and Wawrinka both won in 5 sets as well.


Kimberly Says:

Djokovic in 4

not sure at all on the other. There is not even really a result that would surprise me.


anki Says:

Murray in four, Wawrinka is a head case. Novak or Thiem in five.


Wog Boy Says:

Nothing to do with this thread, but still tennis news. Kyrgios pulled out of Rio Olympics after being unfairly targeted by AOC, he has full support of Tennis Austraia:

http://m.smh.com.au/sport/olympics/rio-2016/nick-kyrgios-pulls-out-of-rio-olympics-20160602-gpajov.html


Wog Boy Says:

Thiem is guaranteed #7 after FO, that says enough about hiw good he is and he is constantly improving, he has power to hit through these muddy courts, Nole doesn’t, it will be tough match to call.


Wog Boy Says:

BTW, with yesterday win Nole qualified for WTF and Thiem is #5 in the race, counting yesterday’s results.


jane Says:

that’s right wog boy… here’ s the live race rankings

thiem is 5th!!
wawrinka is 7th
goffin is 8th
berd is 10th
bautista agut 11th
fed 15th
gasquet 17th

and rafa and kei up at 3rd and 4th

http://live-tennis.eu/race


James Says:

I would love to see a Thiem Wawa final – with graceful one-handed backhands. If its Novak-murray, that’s a snoozefest. More likely we will get a snoozefest.


Wog Boy Says:

As long as Nole doesn’t win it, no?;)


Wog Boy Says:

jane,
Basicaly in the last three rounds Nole is playing agains #11, #10 and #5 players in the world, what a cakewalk..;)


Daniel Says:

Just don’t see Thirm casuing this much trouble to Novak.

Djoko does everything Gofin does and way better with a proper serve so can’t see Thiem taking at best 1 set. my call is Djoko in three. This is exaclty the moment in tourneys were he starts to dazzle and I think he’ll do just that tomorrow. Thiem is too error prone still and he will be brokem multiple times.

Murray in 4 or 5. Still think he makes Wawa miss too much and will tire him in the end.


jane Says:

wog boy, with no days rest. yep, he’s a lucky dude. ;)

daniel i sure hope you’re right about thiem/novak match up. i really don’t know what to expect. nor do i know what conditions will be like with the weather or on lenglen.


James Says:

Thiem didn’t have a days rest either, so its even. then both sides will have a days rest before the final. Unless rain disrupts things again.

Thiem is indeed a bit error prone. If he can clean up his errors, he is No. 1 material. His backhand is less of a liability than Fed’s. Somehow, Fed just couldn’t hit backhands like Gasquet, Wawa or even Thiem. He never developed that swing or power, or hitting it more on the up. that was pretty much his downfall against Nadal. If you put Stan’s backhand on Fed, he would have fared much better against Nadal on clay in his earlier years when he was at his peak.


kjb Says:

Should be a couple of good matches. I will go with Daves prediction of Nole and Stan in 4. Would love to see a repeat of last years final.


skeezer Says:

“Basicaly in the last three rounds Nole is playing agains #11, #10 and #5 players in the world, what a cakewalk..;)”
Better check with your sock puppet cf1, it could be weak era material.


Wog Boy Says:

And your point is..?

You are desperately seeking attention and looking for an argument even when nobody is talking to nor care about you, very lonely and rejected life, what a pathetic loser you are, stick with your cult at “perfect tennis”..


chrisford1 Says:

He has his cats, Wog Boy. So he isn’t lonely. And at least 6 creatures do not reject him. As long as he feeds them, changes the kitty litter, they put up with him.


Michael Says:

Novak is just humiliating Berdych and it is really surprising and shocking as well as to how easily he dominates and dismantles a No.7 player with such consummate ease every time they meet on court. Berdych is just clueless against Novak and just going through the motions and it seems that in his mind he is reconciled to a defeat even before the match begins. The only time Novak was in real threat during this match was when he lost his temper and threw down his racquet which if it had hurt the linesman, he would have been in real trouble having to face disqualification. Fortunately, for him and his fans, it didn’t happen and I hope Novak henceforth becomes more careful with his conduct on court.

Coming into the Wawarinka Vs Andy match, I have to go with Sean and pick Andy as he seems to have found his rhythm and the fire power. But this match is going to be really close with the winner decided with a few crucial points separating both the players. The player who wins these big points will nodoubt emerge triumphant. So, although Andy has a very slight edge, it is not much and Wawarinka can really turn it around even though he is handicapped by the fact that he has not beat a top player.

As regards Novak Vs Thiem, it will be a real shocker if the later is able to turn it around. But that is a tall order and can happen only if Novak’s level of play unbelievably falters combined with Theim’s upsurge. So, Novak holds a very big edge here.


Van Persie Says:

1.Djokovic in 3 sets today
2. Wawa or Andy in 4 or 5 sets :)


chrisford1 Says:

Djokovic’s making the QFs and Semis at the FO is almost taken for granted. It shouldn’t be. I believe one attribute of Federer and Djokovic that is not celebrated enough is their consistent excellence year in and year out for so long with of course a few “blip” years or early Slam loss “shockers!!” tossed in. Leaving out Slam Finals and Wins records for the time being:

Most Semis Open Era
Fed 37
Connors 31
Djokovic 30
Lendl 28

Most Consecutive semis
Federer 23
Djokovic 14
Lendl 10
Djokovic 9 (active streak)

Most QFs
Federer 45
Connors 41
Agassi 36
Djokovic 34
Lendl 34

Most consecutive QFs
Federer 36
Djokovic 28 (active streak)
Lendl 14
Nadal 11


chrisford1 Says:

Racket tosses, Rome rants, FO court condition diatribes? To me Djokovic has been cantankerous as a stress & pressure coping mechanism, and wanting everything to go right, almost perfectly with his game, as he ramps up his game to hopefully peak in the FO Finals.

Of course Andy and Stan and Dominic are hungry and motivated to win as well. Just not like Djokovic. Novak is at a different level of wanting it. 2 matches to go.


Van Persie Says:

I was pleased to see, that the matches are scheduled at the same time today. Finally a positive news from this FO.


George Says:

I will take anyone but Djokovic. I wouldn’t survive his simultaneous hold on all 4 majors.


mat4 Says:

@George:

Me neither. Just the thought of it is terrifying. I have even decided to root for Thiem or Murray, just like many other nice Novak’s fans, because I always welcome strong opposition, bad schedule, rain, etc. to be even more proud of my fav when he loses.

Somehow, I prefer to see him lose than to see him win. But still, it’s my only fav.

;-)


Van Persie Says:

It s only a shame, that Nole had not the oportunity to play on snow at this FO….


Van Persie Says:

FO director should make this tournament more interesting and organize it at the End of December. Why do tennis players have to celebrate Christmas? they have to entertaine me during Holidays


Nathalie Says:

Thiem said: “I think he’s a little bit on a different level than all the other players…” Litlle Thiem you are delusional :) A little bit on a different level? The guy has more ATP points than any player ever had before, is crushing record after record AND will doing that for some more years. A little boy Thiem needs to eat much more of spinach to be like “Popeye Novak”.


Van Persie Says:

P.S. I forgot…Happy Birthday, Rafa!


Giles Says:

https://twitter.com/iptl/status/738604594108891141
Happy birthday champ! Wishing you lots of good health and success!


Pauly Says:

George

11 x 0 = 0

Give Djokovic a break
I’m Nadal fan even I have compassion for my countrymen
Let Nole enjoy holding French open trophy
HAPPY BIRTHDAY NADAL
🎂🎂🎂🎂🍰🍰🍰🍰🍰

Djokovic in 3 sets
Murray in 4 sets


Pauly Says:

Van persie

Nadal turned 30


Pauly Says:

James

Federer with Wawrinkas backhand would give Nadal nightmares just as Nadal’s lethal forehand gave Federer nightmares
Imagine Nadal with a serve like Isner ?
Fantasy


Margot Says:

Lol Van Persie @ 4.14, but why don’t they take the whole tournament down to the South of France. They’d get some decent weather and it’s so beautiful down there at this time of year.
Thiem needs to control that forehand, it’s too error prone at the mo. If he can it will be absolutely devastating.


anki Says:

Happy Birthday Rafa, What a bummer not having him in the French open.
Hope Nole somehow finds a way past Thiem. It is not going to be easy at all. I feel Andy will have a much more easy time dealing with Stan and Novak may struggle against Thiem.


Humble Rafa Says:

Thank you for the wishes. I am glad to have fans like you. Xisca is making this day very special for me.


Michael Says:

Heartiest congratulations to Rafa on his 30th birthday.

What an interesting, spectacular and tensed day it would have really been if it had been a Novak Vs Rafa semi final clash offering the spectators a complete package of entertainment.


Djokerkiller Says:

Novak is standing on the precipice of doom again!! No?? The match is still heavily leaned on Djoker’s racket..When, a scores of tennis sensation like Dimitrov, Nshi arrived I thought that’s it, we got something new to cheer on…well, well, well…what happened then? Inexplicable disaster from all these too hyped up players barring Nishi who were solid at a time and fragile at other times. But, Thiem so far seems to be real deal particularly in clay with significant numbers of wins under his belt this year. He is 22, this is right age to kick off the grand slam dream. If big champion laurel is written in his fate, he will defy all the odds and thus usher a new era of next generation tennis. But still it seems far fetched since he is gonna face the Mountain named Djokovic who has been unattractively solid as a champion for last few years. So, let’s delve deep into Thiem’s possibility:

If he is to win today’s match:

1. 1st serve percentage should be around 68-70% mix the flat serve and his wicked kick serve well and find the spot well to prevent the Djokovic from dictating in the rally unless in the heavy condition he can be unsettled by the returner of Djokovic’s caliber.

2. Cut down error from back hand side, mix the slice with topspin drive

3. Mix flat shot with heavy top spin to make djokovic off balanced in the rally

4. When there will be opportunity he needs to seize it either it’s for breaking the serve, going for winner in the rally or earning the big points the match

5. He needs to show mental and emotional prowess and find a solid tactics to remain strategically and physically best throughout the whole match

6. Finish the match possibly in 4 sets.

As, we see Thiem needs to ride Mount Everest here as if it’s a walk in the park. As, grand slam history dictates, this match is still on Novak’s racket . But, it won’t be easy for him either. And, If Thiem wins, he is gonna be name to be chanted after the retirement of the great Federer and Nadal. Here he needs a great transformation, he needs to leap from an amazingly promising player to a Grand slam champion which can be too overwhelming for him for allowing djokovic to sneak a tight victory. But, if Thiem wants to be a big champion he needs to strike now. 22 is the ripe age to destroy the shield of Novak… All great champion eventually emerged by defeating another great champion that happened with Federer, that happened with Nadal and that happened with Djokovic too in Australian open 2008. Thiem similarly needs to go for the kill, play fearlessly since it’s djokovic who is on the edge of the hill to win career grand slam.

But, if Novak looses, that’s it, he is going to end his career without French open which will be a tragedy for a champion of his stature…

However, I am hoping a tension reddened high quality match. My pick is Novak in 4 while I hope Thiem emerges as a champion and go on to win the Roland Garros for the greater good of Tennis.


courbon Says:

Happy Birtday Raul Castro…


Giles Says:

https://twitter.com/stu_fraser/status/738697726372786176
Just think, he could’ve donated the money to the deserving in his country. Oh well, if he’d rather spend his money this way . . … .
Hope many more fines to come.


Dave Says:

It looks like the match will start on time. Muguruza is up a double break in the second set and is one game away, serving for the match.


Dave Says:

And than right after I say that, she gets broken to love.


Van Persie Says:

Nole, idemo!


Pauly Says:

Thiem is so nervous
Only reason he is this far is that the birthday boy withdrew
Djokovic will win easy & then get some rest for final
The final will be his only tough match all tournament


Van Persie Says:

I like Thiem a lot, but hope he will remain nervous today…the entire match.


Van Persie Says:

Nole is on fire today


Pauly Says:

Anki

You got to be kidding surely ?
Djokovic will crush Thiem
Murray might struggle if stan plays red hot


Pauly Says:

Van persie

Hi how you doing
Djokovic will win easy
I always knew he would but the other match might be better to watch
Where’s Djokovic’s number one fan ?
The moronic hypocrite calm down please ?


Pauly Says:

Van persie

Hi how you doing
Djokovic will win easy
I always knew he would but the other match might be better to watch
Where’s Djokovic’s number one fan ?
The hypocrite calm down please ?


Pauly Says:

Should be good final
Djokovic vs someone
Hopefully the ZERO will turn into 1


Van Persie Says:

Hi Pauly,

Am fine, thanks for asking. Hope U are also well. Watching the match, left work earlier today.
Come on, give CDP a break. Am sure he/she is watching Andy now ;)

Thie is playing better now…


Van Persie Says:

Correction: Thiem


Daniel Says:

Wish I could watch matches today😔

See that Djoko ks a break up and set point to break for 6-2 and serve forat second.

Murray also a vreak up but by acores there were a few BP for both sides. Thirm had one also.

If Djoko and Murray indeed close first set, this matches could end in three.


calmdownplease Says:

It’s ‘he’ actually VP

And no, i am not watching Novak

I’m watching the other one (which is smoking i may add)!

I shall deal with Pauly in due course…

hehe


Daniel Says:

So far ehat I eas expecting is happening, Djoko raising his level in last 2 rounds, Thiem nervous and Djoko ser for a easy straight ser win.

Murray also leading set 1, 4-2. If he closes first set he will win in no more than 4 sets. Murray usually is a great front runner, when he wins first sets he is playing great and very few can overcome it (Other Big 4).


Van Persie Says:

Daniel,

Thiem is not so nervous anymore…and he is playing better now.
2 set will be more tight, I guess.

CDP,

my insticts failed me this time. I thought, you were a gutsy woman…:)


Daniel Says:

Murray has to increase his second points won, so far the mathc is pretty even, 31 to 30 pts by Murray who will serve for the set.


calmdownplease Says:

wow, a very gutsy one then with something extra lol

And i thought you were a dude, particularly with that name!

TBH I dont think I’ve ever met a female poster as hard core as I though


Dave Says:

I like how Nole is coming to the net to finish off point. Also he is hitting the ball super high into Thiems backhand to make him uncomfortable. Great defense so far as well. Very intelligent tactics by Nole today so far.


calmdownplease Says:

youre all wasting your time watching the thiem novak one


Daniel Says:

Djoko a break up in second. He will cruise.

I said before the tournament I wouldn’t be surprised if he wins this RG easy, won’t be surprised at all if he wins today in straights and finals in straights as well. Last AO we were expecting competitive and he won fairly easy.

Although we know Stan can trouble Novak when on and Murray won sets over him on clay last matches he is still a bit more mentally vulnerable than Novak.

Djoko arriving in finals with back to back 3 sets and will be in for something.


Pauly Says:

Thiem has been exposed tonight for what he is
Apprentice !!!
Terrible match
Hopefully the final will be better contest
Calm down please your idol is not playing great
He is only playing young novice


Pauly Says:

Daniel

Did you really think the apprentice would beat the master ?


Van Persie Says:

In order to be a dude, I would have to let myself grow a d.,k hehe

Yep, yhere is no female poster as hard core as


Van Persie Says:

as hard core as you. correction.


calmdownplease Says:

Preach it VP
Thiem is simply hopeless
way too inexperienced at this level
I laughed at people thinking he could win
what, just because he beat Goffin?
bwahahaha and HA!
It’s the world number O.N.E out there FFS
Set one to the MUZZ


Pauly Says:

Djokovic must be laughing now
He’s almost in final
Murray looking too solid for Wawrinka
Thiem is being crushed I feel sorry for the fans watching this shit


Pauly Says:

Calm down please

Finally you posted something I agree with
Well done
Yes Thiem is like boy playing man
No competition for Djokovic
He will get better in 5 years
Good night everyone


Van Persie Says:

Ok, I was wrong, no tight set. Am glad I was wrong


Daniel Says:

No Pauly, I never doubted Djoko would win in straights, just not thought it would be this easy.

Some Djoko fans who were hyping Thiem in order to make Novak look better because deep doen everybody knows Bersych and Thiem (22 and first Slams semis) back to back is as easy as it can gets, even woth Thiem being one of the “in form” players this year with a bunch of wins (he played too much also).

I’ve been saying Djoko is gonna win easy in later rounds as is his pattern latelly. Last 3 Slams were examples and AO he only lost a set to Fed because it was too easy and Federer has level to reach a nirvana kind of set.

Wawa and Murray can provide a resistence to Novak on final but also they could be blown of court if they are slightly in a bad day. And if Novak reaches his peak in finals, as it seems he will win in no more than 4.


calmdownplease Says:

Oh Ciao Ciao Pauly!

down to the basement so mummy can tuck you in :)

Andy playing beautiful tennis

Wawa shanking a little but playing great stuff too


Dave Says:

This is starting to remind me of the Australian Open Semi-Final against Federer. Same score line. Drops off a bit in set 3, thiem raises his level and could win the 3rd set to get back in the match.


Daniel Says:

Also, he will reach his 20th Slam final tyeing Nadal, differnece that Nadal os 14-6 (die to his 9 RG’s, almost half of his Slam finals were here) and Djoko will soon be 12-8 (with “only” 6 out of 6 titles in his best Slams).

He will also have 4 or more Slam finals in every Slam, something only Federer was able to do.

Every passing tourney, Djoko’s resume is looking more and more balanced and consistent as Federer, hence why he is the one eith potential to trully be unsiputed GOAT when all os said and done.

One more match (hopelly on Sunday) and he will be 2 Slams from Sanpras and Nadal and beyond any doubt be at least second if not THE GOAT.

After this RG title antthing Nadal will be on top of Novak will be the 14 majors, other thatn that Djoko will be better in every department. And before someones complain Nadal’s always gonna be clay GOAT, none will take that away from him.


Daniel Says:

After winning 2 easy sets, lapse in concentration in third os normal, your mind just relax a bit and usually is when other player can reherse a comeback. Top players wake up and shut the door. Djoko can still get enev this set, just one break down and clay always presents chances to break


Daniel Says:

Murray also a break up in second. Bag this second set and noway he lsoea three straight to Stan.

30-30, on Stan serve, he can even get another break.


Emily Says:

Oh, Stan, letting those bps pass by. Only watching the score line is torture and it sounds like Murray is really using his defensive skills, but Stan, let’s try and pull it together. No offense to the many Murray fans, but I don’t really want to watch another Andy/Novak final (not that I’m biased or anything)


calmdownplease Says:

Shut up Daniel, you’re contradicting yourself
Novak has had no challenge yet as you say
He WILL on Sunday judging from the level Andy is producing here
so dont assume he is just going to have it handed to him
double break!
you’re missing something magical here guys


Emily Says:

No, Stan, getting broken again was the opposite of what I just said


calmdownplease Says:

No offense to the many Murray fans, but I don’t really want to watch another Andy/Novak final (not that I’m biased or anything)’

Ofcourse you wouldn’t dear but why on EARTH would you want this wawa lemon in the final?!
Winning 5 out of the last 27 points!
And LAST years semi was actually great even for the neutrals (bar the final set)


Daniel Says:

Murray double break up.


Colin Says:

Well, Pauly, Stan may be trying to play red hot, but so far it’s not hot enough. First set to Andy, and now he’s serving for the second.


Van Persie Says:

If I watch Wawa, my eyes will start hurting. I am stiking with Nole


Van Persie Says:

Prefer Andy in the final for yhat reason


Humble Rafa Says:

Timmy Boy needs to grow up if is to represent the Humble family in the future.


Daniel Says:

CDP, if mureya plays like Rome and last year RG he sure can test Novak but also if he plays like AO we cab get another final like this. As much as I would like both to win, as I said before I don’t mind them sharing next Slams next years, it’s their tine now, I still favor Djoko who, when plays his best, wins easy and has the mental and latest results advantage over Andy.

Match will be huge for both, mentuon it in other thread what it could represebt for Andy.

I just think now is Djoko’s time. And Wawa also is very up and down. Hos draw was nothing out of the workd and he took advantage to reach semis. The minute he got a decent top 10 and this score is happening.


calmdownplease Says:

Andy’s mum always looks like she is ready to murder someone on court

Yes VP, and that’s why it’s fun watching him get his a*s kicked

LIKE NOW!

;0)


Humble Rafa Says:

Not sure why. Humble thinks the Big Lady is going to choke tomorrow.


Daniel Says:

From 0-3 to 4-3 and serve for Djoko in set 3. 2 more games..


skeezer Says:

Congrats to the Bryans on their 29th GS final!


Van Persie Says:

That’s porn: a yellow thing with nipples and kicked a*s


Emily Says:

Not getting dragged down this rabbit hole, we all have our faves we support. i respect these players and everyone’s preferences, win or lose


calmdownplease Says:

@Daniel
it’s time for Andy to STEP UP and be a big boy
No more winning easy for Novak (it really shouldn’t have been the script anyway)

We would certainly need some sort of confidence breakthrough from Muzz for that
it’s what Im always hoping for because when he feels it i beleieve things will change.
As for Novak the only challenge he has had for the 2 weeks was the weather, really…


Van Persie Says:

Am disapointed. Expected a difficult match for Andy


Daniel Says:

S straight wins in semis it is just the better result for a possible epic final. Murray will erase first two riund unnecessary long matches and Djoko will get kuch needed rest after 4 consecutive days of play, even with just 10 sets played in those 4 days.

Things will be even for finals and may the better player on the day wins. #1 and 2 batrling again.


Humble Rafa Says:

Andy’s mum always looks like she is ready to murder someone on court

Don’t you talk about Mr. Judy Murray like that. I will report this to my good friend Deliciano.


Daniel Says:

Agree CDP,

Now is the time for Murray because even tough clay was not his best surface, Novak has the history and pressure going agaisnt him, and could be more nervous and Murray cna capitiloze being the underdog. One of them will win his first RG come Sunday and this is awesome, same as last years finals.


calmdownplease Says:

Stan is cornered and will put up a last gasp fight, i feel
(for self respect)


Daniel Says:

Djoko serving for match and facing BP. Always tense to close.


Humble Rafa Says:

The Best Backhand in Switzerland still has the best backhand. He may not have the RG trophy this year but he will always have his backhand.
It is amazing how he was able overcome a national weakness on that side and turn it into a strength.


Van Persie Says:

Nole, well done :)


jane Says:

Holy Crap!
TAKE A DAY OFF NOVAK!
Well deserved!!!

And congrats to Thiem on a nice run.


Humble Rafa Says:

A kind request for Skeeze..

Treat your cats well tonight. This is not the time for guilt by association. Those poor cats are cute and cuddle, and I would hate to see them suffer.

#bigheart


Daniel Says:

Djoko does it, his part done. Put himself in postion to finally win the most important elusive title of his career and 4 in a row, unprecedent in last 30-40 years. 1 mpre match to go😀🎾🏆


Daniel Says:

Murray now has to be carefull to not lose his serve in end of his set, he is serving behind, and from now on will be tense times.


calmdownplease Says:

‘because even tough clay was not his best surface’

yes in the past tense the back operation released his abilities which were always suited to clay really
Are you actually WATCHING this match D?
Clay and grass are now Andy’s best surfaces


Dave Says:

Djokovic puts in an amazing performance today. So much focus today and just looks so ready to release all of the pressure and looks ready to finally win The French Open this year. At least he will be well rested for the final.


Daniel Says:

No CDP,

But I think Andy will be a force on clag for good hence qhy I said one of them will win hos first RG title as I belive both will be winnig it this year plus at least next 2 years.

His results this season: semis MC, Final Madrid, Title Rome and Final/Title RG

Last year: Title Munich, Title Madrid, semis RG

And he got wins over Nadal last two years and one over Novak this year. Actually we can safely sau that this last 2 years he is better on clay (results qise) than Nadal.


Van Persie Says:

Nole vs Andy will be a very phisical match on Sunday


calmdownplease Says:

Thought not.
he was better than Novak this year too actually D
better than everyone, but ofcourse, what really counts is Sunday


chrisford1 Says:

CDP – I want Andy to STEP UP and be a big boy as well. Just starting in 2017 when he beats Novak at the AO or just plays him close.
Maybe at the USO. Just for the fun of Nolenaysayers saying he failed miserably by only winning gold and 5 Slams in a row, and not equalling Rod Laver’s bigger feat of a Calendar year Grand Slam. That would be hilarious!!
But after the USO, with Novak beating Fed like a rug in the Barclay’s Final. And the AO, quieting speculation by media Federistas Djokovic was ready to retire after his USO humbling.


Humble Rafa Says:

Just for the fun of Nolenaysayers saying he failed miserably by only winning gold and 5 Slams in a row, and not equalling Rod Laver’s bigger feat of a Calendar year Grand Slam. That would be hilarious!!

A neutral fan just told me that to achieve goat status, the Egg Lover has to win 17 slams in a row, have 3 sets of twins, get married to a bigger woman and walk on water. GOAT god will consider his application after he accomplishes the above.


calmdownplease Says:

is he going to steal a set
mmm


calmdownplease Says:

s**t!
but Andy will stil prevail


Humble Rafa Says:

I feel sorry for the man sitting next to Mr. Murray. He has good teeth, for now.


Dave Says:

Putting Murray in the final with the match not even over yet is a bit risky. Wawrinka just woke up and has the whole crowd behind him. Nothing is over until the last point.


Daniel Says:

Damm it, what I feared happened, Mureay losng serve and set at the end.

Let’s see of Wawa will continue his comebacknor Murray will take control. He needa an early break


Van Persie Says:

Murray takes the 4 set


calmdownplease Says:

I hope it doesn’t go to 5 for either of them

Novak’s semi was a joke!


Wog Boy Says:

Andy in four.


AndyMira Says:

@VP 10:13am..have you got no shame!Ewww!!


calmdownplease Says:

nice quick break at least ;)


Van Persie Says:

Hi AM,

Heat of the moment :D


Daniel Says:

Start fourth breaking, better impossible. Now hold and get another break mid set as an insurrance break


Wog Boy Says:

CDP,

Nole made it look like a joke, he had perfect tactic and was on fire, it is not that Thiem played badly, it is tha Nole was focused with one hiccup in the third. Good thing was that majority cheered Thiem and usually fires up Nole.


Wog Boy Says:

Andy is retrieving just about everything.


Humble Rafa Says:

Nothing is over until the last point.

Mr. Dave,

How long did it take you to this level of enlightenment?


calmdownplease Says:

yeah the court conditions have favoured Andy, i would say

sure WG but Thiem is just a little boy really


calmdownplease Says:

genius shot pity it wasnt on break


FedExpress Says:

plz muzza/wawa let tennis win in the final and get the trophy


RG Says:

Wow. Murray is looking terrific. He is absorbing Wawrinka’s powerful strokes.


Dave Says:

I have to say I disagree with Mats Wilander when he said that S.L. Was slower than P.C. Watching the 2 matches today, you guys were right, S.L. is definitely faster than P.C. You can see it big-time.


AndyMira Says:

Oh thank God VP!I hope it’s not everyday’s moment!Sunday.if novak win,i hope you keep your excitedness behind the closed door!Pleaseee..i’m begging you..


Daniel Says:

Murray needs to hold now and broke again close to the end, that would be ideal, not having to serve for the match.


Wog Boy Says:

I said that is still lacking something and it was exposed by Nole, Nole wasn’t afarsid to go against his FH a quite often drew mistake from that side, particulary when Thiem was changing direction and going for FHDTL, Nole also was going wuite often with top spin and high bounce against Thiems BH and evry now and then was hitting drop shots. Another thing that Thiem lacks is changing the tactics during the game, but that will come with more experience, and to save energy.


Daniel Says:

SLBwaa always faster and has less room for the defense. Chatrier is the slowest court on the planet bar Buenos Aires where they way too much poweder. That’s why that comment was weird maybe in dump conditions it changes…


calmdownplease Says:

despite the rather large blip i just think Andy is on another level in this match
it should be in 4
a-hem!


Giles Says:

Andy is going to win the FO before joker!


Van Persie Says:

Yep AM, but I will let the window open ;)


Wog Boy Says:

Dave,
Agree, SL court was playing much faster, why would that be?


RZ Says:

Completely unrelated to the Drench Open, but I just read that Tommy Haas has been named the tournament director of Indian Wells/BNP Paribas Open. (His appointment needs approval of both tours but I expect he would get it). I guess a retirement announcement is coming soon. 😢


ABerg Says:

Djokovic must be loving this. The only thing better than Murray in grueling four would be Murray in grueling five, spread over two days.


AndyMira Says:

VP!ha ha ha..but be careful..anyone can have a selfie and there you are!!


Humble Rafa Says:

Tommy Haas has been named the tournament director of Indian Wells/BNP Paribas Open.

Not surprised. Tommy has been Larry Ellison’s waiter for many years. He just got promoted.


Wog Boy Says:

I have an offer for Andy’s fans, can we have FO and you can have Wimbledon and USO, I think it fair and generous offer, what do you reckon?


Van Persie Says:

AM,

I live at 2 floor :).
Am really glad, that Nole had a good match today and he will rast tomorrow, finally


Van Persie Says:

I would also offer the Champions Tour trophy to Andy for a Golden Medal in Rio:)


Daniel Says:

0-30, insurrance break coming.


FedExpress Says:

*uck. two mugs playing in the final. will be the same like at the AO.


Daniel Says:

5-2 serving for the match, about time.


Wog Boy Says:

VP,

Let’s split that one too, gold for Nole and WTF for Andy?


Humble Rafa Says:

I have an offer for Andy’s fans, can we have FO and you can have Wimbledon and USO, I think it fair and generous offer, what do you reckon?

Humble thinks to make it fair, you have to take Mr. Judy Murray between FO and Wimbledon along with your suggestions.


Van Persie Says:

Exactly WB :)


Wog Boy Says:

VP,
You said the same, I read it wrongly:)


RZ Says:

@Wog Boy, throw in the 2017 Aussie Open too, and you have a deal. :-)


FedExpress Says:

8th runner up plate coming up for murray


Van Persie Says:

No worries WB, it is night in Australia and I assume you had some rakija :)


Wog Boy Says:

RZ,
Let’s first finish this year and then we’ll discuss next one:)

Congrats to Andy fans, I think it is clear now who are two best players in the world, by quite a margine too. Good luck to both on Sunday and let’s best man win. I will be away and won’t be able to watch final.


AndyMira Says:

VP..2 floor?You think that’s high enough?Btw..congrats novak once again in the final..remember you promise to get married if he win!..


Margot Says:

YAAAAAAAAYYYY!!!
Yah boo to all of you who said Stan was gonna crush Andy!
Hey Nole. Well played. See you Sunday1


RZ Says:

@Wog Boy – it was worth a try. :-)


Wog Boy Says:

VP,

Yes, it is 2am and I had only one rakija after Nole won for good luck. I am sober:)


Wog Boy Says:

RZ,

Definitely:)


RZ Says:

I don’t think I’ll have much chance to be on this site over the weekend, so here is my early “Come on Andy!” for the final.


AndyMira Says:

And Margot promised me dinner and a big bouquet of flowers and big chocolate if andy win!Yum!Yum!


Humble Rafa Says:

Humble’s goat owner legacy on the line on sunday. It has been a good ride and I am will forever cherish winning break points on the ad court.


skeezer Says:

Congrats to Murray, he deserves to be in this final. Has performed very well this Clay season. Obviously he has trained hard in all areas. Question to Murray fans. Does he really need a Coach?


RZ Says:

I’ve been trying to find a list of ATP players who have made the finals of all 4 slams but haven’t found one. With Murray making the FO final, all members of the big 4 fit this description. Agassi too as a career slam winner. Also Lendl, Edberg, and Courier. Anyone else?


Humble Rafa Says:

Question to Murray fans. Does he really need a Coach?

Who carries the baby?


Margot Says:

@RZ
Commies said he’s one of 10


RZ Says:

Thanks Margot. I wouldn’t know because I don’t get to watch. :-(
I missed Laver on my list. So I need just one more…


Margot Says:

@RZ
You are allowed to watch replays…;)


Daniel Says:

Djoko and Murray may end up playong finals in all Grand Slams this year.

Wimbledon can’t see none other than the two and maybe Federer if he has a decent grass tune up (he will play Stutgart and Halle). Cant see nobody else other than these 3 winning. Very few can play well on grass.

USO is a bit more open as anybody can have a magica run in HC but even so, Djoko and Murray will be top favorites for any Slam they play from now on for quite a while.

Nadal is a question mark for Wimby and Federer is in hos real last top 5 year I think, and that if his body permit.

The other are just not consistent week in week out to challenge and Stan I am afaraid we saw the best of him. From bow is nowhere but down pr staying top 4-8 a fee more months.

If Djoko wins he porves once and for all is his show now and sky is the limit bar injury.

If Murray wins he can revamp his career and reach his full potential plus being the one who can challenge Djoko’s Slam assault.

Right now in Slam fiansl Djoko is 4-2 agaisnt Murray in finals, 3-1 agaisnt Federer and 3-4 agaisnt Nadal. He will only not improve his final record agaisnt Nadal because Nadal is not reaching Slam finals anymore, last 8, nadal reached 0 and Djoko 7 winning so far 5 could be 6 Monday.

Nadal’s last 4 Slams doesn’t have even a R16 and Wimby seems almost a given withdraw. Federer yet to deliver what he did last year and now will enter his favorite part of season. Jury on him.

Looks safe for a Djoko Andy domintaion, more so Djoko if he wins Sunday.


Daniel Says:

The key for the match will be first set, if Murray loses over for him. He has to win first set to have a chance. He never beat Djoko aftee lising first set. of course there is a first for eveything but he doesn’t have Wawa’s power as shown last year.


Dave Says:

I just finished messaging one of my friends about the same thing Daniel. It’s all about the first set for Murray. Today, Murray changed things up. I think he had lost the first set 2 or 3 times so far at the French Open. But started out fast against Wawrinka today.


Daniel Says:

Anvy believes more in himself agaisnt top players (big 4) when he wins first set.

You can count in one hand how many times he beat them after losing first set.


Margot Says:

Actually Daniel, Andy was outmuscling Stan today, yes even on the forehand.


Wog Boy Says:

According to weather forecast Sunday should be much warmer than today, around 23 degrees. Is it going to dryer too?


Wog Boy Says:

^^ “to be dryer too”


Giles Says:

According to weather forecast it will be 15 degrees with thunderstorms on Sunday. Not kidding.


jane Says:

there is a risk of thunder later in the day, but all the forecasts i checked say about 22 degrees.


jane Says:

nole/thiem highlights (v. short) give you a sense of dominic’s quality if you missed the match. also, the atmosphere on lenglen turned out to be electric.

http://www.rolandgarros.com/en_FR/video/2016-06-03/3b35260-00a18fdbb47.html


Daniel Says:

Weather forecast has 25% chance from 2 to 6 pm. The slowest probabilty for Sunday. Hope ot rains morning and clear during final.


Daniel Says:

22 max and 15 minimum.


Giles Says:

FFS these joker fans really take the biscuit. A couple of days ago they were having serious near heart attacks on the schedule and now they are busting their guts on the weather forecast for Sunday. What a bunch of morons.


Margot Says:

http://www.rolandgarros.com/en_FR/news/articles/2016-06-03/sublime_murray_dethrones_stan_to_reach_first_french_final.html

Excellent write up of Andy’s match.
All the commentators were saying conditions today really suited Stan’s game…..so who cares about Sunday’s weather?


Daniel Says:

Margot,

Andy has the FH, remember USO 2015 agaisnt Novak, he was smacking the ball. But he ddoesn’t like to play that way all the time. But is a good to unleash every now and than, more things in his armoury of variation.


jane Says:

i am not in the least worried about the schedule, giles
after all, novak finally gets his first day off after playing best of 5 matches for 4 days in a row.
let it rain on sunday
he’ll get more rest!! ;)


Daniel Says:

I just don’t want rain and interrupting the match, feels like a blue ball😖 (pardon me ladies).


RZ Says:

Found the list of men’s players who have made all 4 GS finals. ATP site posted it in their article about Murray. The player I was missing was Rosewall. http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/news/murray-wawrinka-roland-garros-2016-semifinals-friday


chrisford1 Says:

Happy birthday to Rafa, get well.
Amazing with all his time away, in his tennis career, he has made 14 majors and 20 finals. He is 2nd place in the Open Era in both categories behind Federer.
Novak just tied him at 20 Finals.
But who knows how much more either will do. Each is a moving target. And I will never write off Rafa until he decides to leave the Tour.
I would guess that Novak will exceed him in Slam wins Slam finals and semis and Masters and so on. But who knows until they are done.


jane Says:

yes, happy bday to rafa today. he is 30 i think?


Daniel Says:

CF1,

Novak definetly will reach more finals and more Slams wins. Nadal after last 4 not even R16 and 2 complete years (8 Slams) without a single semis is hard to see no marter how optimisic or a fan you are or the old, never count him out. it’s time and more than sufficient indication to count him out.

After this late injury only a miracle will see him again contending for Slams in later rounds. He doesn’t even won a songle HC title on over 30 months (2 and a half years). His last HC title was Doha 2014, an ATP 250!!!!

Federer is in a similar downfall but at leats he reached multiple Slam finals and even a semis ths year and we are entering his best part of season while Nadal entering his worst part of the season and recovering from injury.

On top of it all, turning 30 today. Reaching male maturity as an adult but not a great number for a sportsperson


jane Says:

ATP race as of today
1 Nole
2 Murray
3 Rafa
4 Kei
5 Thiem
6 Milos
7 Stan
8 Goffin
9 LaMonf
10 Berd


RZ Says:

@Jane – what’s most amazing in that list is that LaMonf is at #9 – even without playing at the French Open!


jane Says:

yes true rz… but i think up till miami or perhaps monte carlo (?) lamonf had reached the quarters of all events he had played, or something along those lines. so he was very consistent until the withdrawl, sadly.


django Says:

Did anyone notice Gritsch in Nole’s box? He looks thinner.


Wog Boy Says:

django,

Maybe Nole talked him into becoming vegetarian too. Look at the Boris, he is getting thinner and thinner..:)


django Says:

Ugh they all look like vegans now


Wog Boy Says:

All but Vajda, he looks like cuddle teddy bear.


Michael Says:

The kid is yet to bloom. Novak literally destroyed him and taught him some coaching lessons as how to be patient from the back of the court especially on a slow surface like Roland Garros. Theim, an aggressive player knew that the only way he could win the match was to blast his way through hitting winners. But then against a fire wall like Novak, that is easier said than done.

The match only gave us an insight of the huge distance between the current generation and the next generation of players which the later has to cover up and it is a very long road ahead.

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